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Plaintiff,
v.
Defendant.
15-cv-07433-RWS
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Defendant’s Combined Response to Plaintiff’s Motion to Compel Defendant
to Answer Deposition Questions Filed Under Seal and
Motion to Terminate or Limit Pursuant to F.R.Civ.P. 30(d)(3) .........................................
Laura A. Menninger
Jeffrey S. Pagliuca
East 10th Avenue
Denver, CO 80203
303.831.7364
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INTRODUCTION
Defendant, Ghislaine Maxwell, through her attorneys, responds to Plaintiff’s Motion to
Compel Defendant to Answer Deposition Questions Filed Under Seal (Doc. # 143 ) (“Motion” ).
Ms. Maxwell, pursuant to Rule 30(d)(3) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, moves to
prohibit Plaintiff from asking her questions about any adult, consensual sex. In support of her
requests, Ms. Maxwell states:
Plaintiff initiated this action purportedly in reaction to statements attributed to Ghislaine
Maxwell on January 3, and 4, 2015. The first of the two statements, according to Plaintiff’s
complaint, was issued by Ross Gow in the United Kingdom. The second was made by Ms.
Maxwell in New York when she was accosted by reporters on the street. Both statements were
brief, contained no factual content, and can best be described as general denials of allegations
made by Plaintiff against Ms. Maxwell, to wit, that Ms. Maxwell “assisted” and participated in
sexual abuse of the Plaintiff between 1999 and 2002.
Plaintiff does not claim that any sexual abuse occurred after 2002 or that she had any
contact with Ms. Maxwell after 2002. Indeed, according to Plaintiff, in 2002 she relocated, first
to Thailand and then to Australia, where she married and started a family. Given that she has
been thousands of miles away from the United States for more than a decade it is unlikely that
Plaintiff has any personal knowledge about events involving Jeffrey Epstein after she left the
country and broke off all contact with both Mr. Epstein and Ms. Maxwell.
This lawsuit presents one relatively simple question: is Plaintiff’s claim that she was
sexually abused by Jeffrey Epstein between 1999 and 2002 “with the assistance and participation
of” Ms. Maxwell substantially true? In light of this one simple question, Plaintiff’s attempts to
question Ms. Maxwell about her consensual adult sex life should be denied.
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Plaintiff deposed Ms. Maxwell for a full seven hours. Ms. Maxwell did not assert any
privilege against self -incrimination and was questioned extensively about, among other things:
her relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, her knowledge of “sexual trafficking”, sex with minors,
non-consensual sex, sex involving the Plaintiff and others, sex involving Plaintiff and Mr.
Epstein, sex involving the Plaintiff and Ms. Maxwell and sex involving the Plaintiff, Ms.
Maxwell and Mr. Epstein. She was asked questions about whether she recruited girls for Mr.
Epstein to have sex with and her knowledge of Mr. Epstein’s sex with a number of people. She
was asked questions about “sex toys”, pornographic images, child pornography, and nudity at
Mr. Epstein’s house. Ms. Maxwell answered these questions, and many others, to the best of her
ability. See Declaration of Jeffrey S. Pagliuca, Composite Exhibit A. .
In sum, Ms. Maxwell testified:
She never had a sexual encounter with the Plaintiff, ever;
She never saw the Plaintiff massage Mr. Epstein;
She did not have a set of outfits for the Plaintiff to wear;
She had no knowledge of any non-consensual sex acts involving Mr. Epstein;
She had no knowledge of Mr. Epstein having sex acts with any underage girl;
She never engaged in any sex acts with any underage girl;
She never had non-consensual sex with anyone;
She did not train the Plaintiff to recruit other girls for massages;
She never trained a female under the age of 18 at Mr. Epstein’s home; and
She never arranged for or asked Plaintiff to have sex with anyone.
Any question about the actual subject matter of this defamation lawsuit was fair game.
The line was drawn, however, at questions concerning Ms. Maxwell’s consensual sex with any
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adult other than the Plaintiff. This is a very reasonable line given the subject matter of this
defamation action, i.e., did Ms. Maxwell assist Mr. Epstein in the sexual trafficking of the
Plaintiff from 1999 to 2002. The questions at issue were not limited to the time frame in which
the Plaintiff claims she was sexually trafficked and was expanded to the time frame of 1992 to
2009--- seven years before the Plaintiff claims to have met Mr. Epstein and five years after she
left the country.
ARGUMENT
Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 26(b)(1) provides, in relevant part, that "[p]arties may
obtain discovery regarding any matter, not privileged, that is relevant to the claim or defense of
any party ….”
Although the scope of discovery is deliberately broad, a Court is not "required to permit
plaintiff to engage in a `fishing expedition' in the hope of supporting [her] his claim.’" McGee v.
Hayes, 43 Fed.Appx. 214, 217 (10th Cir. 2002) (unpublished opinion). See Tottenham v. Trans
World Gaming Corp., 2002 WL 1967023, at *2 (S.D.N.Y. 2002) ("Discovery, however, is not
intended to be a fishing expedition, but rather is meant to allow the parties to flesh out
allegations for which they initially have at least a modicum of objective support") (quotations
omitted); Hardrick v. Legal Services Corp., 96 F.R.D. 617, 618 (D.D.C. 1983) (courts should
remain concerned about "fishing expeditions, discovery abuse and inordinate expense involved
in overbroad and far-ranging discovery requests") (quotation omitted). "[B]road discovery is not
without limits and the trial court is given wide discretion in balancing the needs and rights of
both plaintiff and defendant." Gomez v. Martin Marietta Corp., 50 F.3d 1511, 1520 (10th Cir.
1995) (quotation omitted).
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Although relevance in discovery is broader than that required for admissibility at trial,
"the object of inquiry must have some evidentiary value before an order to compel disclosure of
otherwise inadmissible material will issue." Zenith Electronics Corp. v. Exzec, Inc., No. 93 C
041, 1998 WL 9181, at *2 (N.D.I11.1998) (quoting Piacenti v. Gen. Motors Corp., 173 F.R.D.
221, 223 (N.D.I11.1997)). Courts have also recognized that "[t]he legal tenet that relevancy in
the discovery context is broader than in the context of admissibility should not be misapplied so
as to allow fishing expeditions in discovery." Id. (quotation omitted).
Under Rule 26(c) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure any party may move the court,
for good cause shown, for a protective order regarding pretrial discovery “which justice requires
to protect a party or person from annoyance, embarrassment, oppression or undue burden or
expense.” Fed. R.Civ.P. 26(c). “Although the Rule contains no specific reference to privacy or
to other rights or interests that may be implicated, such matters are implicit in the broad purpose
and language of the Rule.” Seattle Times Company v. Rhinehart, 467 U.S. 20, 35 (U.S. 1984).
It is important to consider that Ms. Maxwell is the defendant in this action. She has not
put her private affairs at issue. She simply denied that she assisted Jeffrey Epstein in the sexual
trafficking of the Plaintiff. She stated that claims made by Plaintiff about her are “untrue” and
contain “obvious lies”. Plaintiff’s allegations concerning Mr. Epstein’s adult consensual
massages with persons other than herself are not the subject of Ms. Maxwell’s denial and
therefore not relevant to this defamation claim. Furthermore, Ms. Maxwell’s private adult sexual
relationships, which do not involve Plaintiff, any underage persons, or any adult who claims to
have been sexually trafficked also do not relate in any way to Plaintiff’s allegations, and by
extension, to Ms. Maxwell’s denial of the same.
It is also important to recognize that Ms. Maxwell is not Mr. Epstein and Mr. Epstein’s
alleged conduct after Plaintiff left the country is not an issue in this defamation case. The
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Plaintiff has no personal knowledge of any of Mr. Epstein’s activities after 2002. Accordingly,
any statements by Plaintiff about Mr. Epstein’s activities occurring after 2002 are her opinions,
not facts that are subject to any defamation claim.
In an attempt to avoid the obvious problems with the non-relevant, highly intrusive,
overbroad, and in most instances technically objectionable questions, Plaintiff has created a new
theory: according to the Plaintiff, the questions are not really about Ms. Maxwell’s private,
consensual sex life, they are about “Defendant’s participation in massages with Epstein”, which
she now says, “is a central part of this case.” This case is not about massages. It is about
whether the Plaintiff’s claim that Ghislaine Maxwell assisted in sexually trafficking the Plaintiff
to people like , and other famous people are substantially true.
Whether Ms. Maxwell gave Mr. Epstein a massage in 1992 has nothing to do with this case.
In Conduit v. Dunn, 225 F.R.D. 100 (S.D.N.Y. 2004), the court considered the reverse of
the issue presented here. Mr. Conduit, a former United States Congressman brought a
defamation action against a media commentator based on statements made regarding the
disappearance and death of a Washington intern. The defendant filed a motion to compel the
plaintiff to provide deposition testimony regarding his sexual relationships which was opposed
by the plaintiff who requested a protective order. Although the court allowed for a limited
inquiry into the Plaintiff’s sexual relationships it did so in large part because the Courts in the
District of New York have:
adamantly refused to allow a litigant to invoke privilege to protect discovery of
information relating to the matter the litigant put directly at issue. Sanofi–
Synthelabo v. Apotex, Inc., 299 F.Supp.2d 303, 308–09 (S.D.N.Y.2004) (finding it
unfair for complainant to assert contentions to the court and then to rely on
privilege to block disclosure of materials that might disprove or undermine those
contentions). This holds true in defamation cases. Cf. Weber v. Multimedia
Entm’t, No. 97 Civ. 0682, 1997 WL 729039 (S.D.N.Y. Nov. 24, 1997) (allowing
discovery of sexual history of plaintiff as to damages in defamation case, though
plaintiff claimed irrelevancy). Id. at 108 (emphasis added).
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The court recognized that:
New York, of course, recognizes a right to privacy arising from its own
constitution and the United States Constitution. See People v. Onofre, 72 A.D.2d
268, 424 N.Y.S.2d 566, 568 (App.Div.1980), aff’d, 51 N.Y.2d 476, 434 N.Y.S.2d
947, 415 N.E.2d 936 (1980) (“Personal sexual conduct is a fundamental right,
protected by the right to privacy.”); see, e.g., Doe v. Bolton, 410 U.S. 179, 93
S.Ct. 739, 35 L.Ed.2d 201 (1973); Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113, 93 S.Ct. 705, 35
L.Ed.2d 147 (1973); Loving v. Virginia, 388 U.S. 1, 87 S.Ct. 1817, 18 L.Ed.2d
1010 (1967); Griswold v. Connecticut, 381 U.S. 479, 85 S.Ct. 1678, 14 L.Ed.2d
510 (1965).
A defendant who has not put her private life at issue, and whose private life is otherwise
irrelevant to the action, should not be forced to testify regarding her private adult
relationships that do not involve Plaintiff or anything improper.
In analogous circumstances courts have refused to allow questions about a deponent’s
sexual history. For example, in Silva v. Pioneer Janitorial Services, 2011 WL 4729783 (D. Mass
2011), the court restricted deposition questions about a plaintiff’s sexual history. The court took
guidance from F.R.E. 412, and held that in an alleged sexual harassment case questions about a
plaintiff’s prior sexual history would not be allowed. See also, A.W. v. I.B. Corp., 224 F.R.D. 20,
23 (D.Me. 2004); Gibbons v. Food Lion, Inc., No. 98–1197–CIV–T–23F, 1999 WL 33226474, at
*2 (M.D.Fla. Feb.19, 1999) (stating that a majority of courts that have considered whether
Fed.R.Evid. 412 is applicable to discovery “have found that Rule 412 has significance in the
resolution of a discovery dispute”).
In Barta v. City & County of Honolulu, 169 F.R.D. 132, 136 (D.Haw. 1996), the court
held that defendants were not entitled to inquire into plaintiff's sexual conduct while she was offduty, outside the workplace, and which did not involve conduct with the defendants. The court
stated that plaintiff's “sexual conduct in that defined area, remote in time and/or kind from her
claims, has no relevance to her claims or applicable defenses.”
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Similarly, the theory that any consensual adult sexual encounter that Ms. Maxwell may
have had in an approximate 17 year period is irrelevant to any issue in this case, is propounded
simply to harass and embarrass Ms. Maxwell and should not be permitted by this Court.
CONCLUSION
Ms. Maxwell has not put her sex life at issue in this case and under the circumstances
here she should not be required to answer open-ended highly intrusive questions about activity
unrelated to the Plaintiff or her claim that she was sexually trafficked. Like the Court in Conduit
v. Dunn, this court should preclude non-relevant salacious fishing expeditions. Id., at 111. All
of the questions posed by Plaintiff are just that. Accordingly, Ms. Maxwell requests that the
Motion to Compel be denied and that her Motion to Terminate or Limit pursuant to F.R.Civ.
P.30(d)(3) be granted.
Dated: May 10, 2016.
Respectfully submitted,
/s/ Jeffrey S. Pagliuca
Laura A. Menninger (LM-1374)
Jeffrey S. Pagliuca (pro hac vice)
150 East 10th Avenue
Denver, CO 80203
Phone: 303.831.7364
Fax: 303.832.2628
lmenninger@hmflaw.com
Attorneys for Ghislaine Maxwell
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I certify that on May 10, 2016, I electronically served this Defendant’s Combined
Response to Plaintiff’s Motion to Compel Defendant to Answer Deposition Questions Filed
Under Seal and Motion to Terminate or Limit Pursuant to F.R.Civ.P. 30(d)(3) via ECF on the
following:
Sigrid S. McCawley
Meridith Schultz
401 East Las Olas Boulevard, Ste. 1200
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33301
smccawley@bsfllp.com
mschultz@bsfllp.com
Paul G. Cassell
S.J. Quinney College of Law, University of
Utah
383 S. University Street
Salt Lake City, UT 84112
cassellp@law.utah.edu
Bradley J. Edwards
425 North Andrews Ave., Ste. 2
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33301
brad@pathtojustice.com
/s/ Nicole Simmons
Nicole Simmons
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