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Brien, | guests are like pygmies next to the nearby twice lifesize sculp-
bitin) | ture of a naked African warrior”
Downs in Loutsvile, ‘The: journalist had confirmed that several prominent names —
como Re nrrr ne a mogul and publisher;
| Microsoft executive Nathan Myhrvold: and Donald Trump
1 among them—had dined a the residence. She'd interviewed
iy Pan lightie | several of Epstein’ friends and ex friends: Nobel Prize-winning
Bm & | scivatists, financiers who worked with Epstein at Bear Stearns,
4 hi ~ i | Shed handled Steven Tofteubery, with aplomb. And, working
ny &. | with Vanity Fuir's editors, shed figured out ways to slip even more
: a 7 ‘formation betwen the lines, in ways that would allow readers
maT (Bo: to form their own questions abowt Epstein's finances
AN He { \ In that respect, shed fulfilled her original assignment perl,
\ J A What Carter needed to figure out was what to do wid: the
- § artist, her sister, and their mother’s story. Buc before he could
Miclae) and Janet Rie a the Fela swipe his ey curd to let himself into the wayguzine’s offices, Car-
Tesch Poler Fundaun Police <a tex saw a man standing in the reception area
Dall a1 Mara Lago, January The man was motionless. He'd been waiting for Caer.
3012 Tibi sare Pal Dc ’
Daily esos ZUMAPRESS com) It was Jeffrey Epstein. Nonplussed, Carter invited him into
| hivafrice
re
ro Epstein denied the cluims involving underage women, No criti
Eiri nal charges had been filed. And so Vanity Fair decided mot to
or clude the clits in Wards article. But, according to Ward
= | when her editor Doug Stumpf called ber, she cried.
[re % Shed worked so hard on the piece, gotten so stressed out that
i LE i" fon of her twins had begun to grow more slowly thn the other.
wity i On doctar's anders, shed heen put ou bed rest
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Jonces Pazranson
hy?" she asked hen she. got to speak to Carter directly
“Hes sensitive about the young women. And we still get to
un most of the piece.
In bee notebook, Ward wrote dawn the rest of what Carter
had said: “I belive him" be told he “I'm Canadian”
But the piece that carne out, in Lhe March issue, still created a
sensation. t ws called “The Talented] Mr. Epstein in sly refec-
ace to Patricia Highsmith's celebrated suspense novel The Tal
ented a: Ripley. The film adaptation. by Anthony Minghella, was
sil fresh in the minds of Vanity Fair's readers. For Graydon
Carter, Just posing the questiou Is Epstein some sor of scam drt
like Ripley? had bec question enough. And thranghout the
pice, there were canes readers woulda miss as they drew Todd Meister: June 20.
their oven conclusions about Epsiein's life story. It came thronigh,
cleasly isthe first he of the last parageaph of Ward's 7.500-wurd
story: “Mauy people comment there is something innocent, arty CHO
almost childlike about Jeley Lpstein.” H= Therion
Im camext, the word innocent was rather ironic —so much 50 postof Harry's Bar
that ic almost became is own apposite: ops. fn venice, Lots
ith a theme resiaurant—(
hedge-fund manager nase
wealthy man—|effiey Lp
fuer, Fpstein's sometime
“Lye known Jeffrey sir
et we tell you what 1 ke
everybody else says. First
and here's why —he hes m
that for hive”
Meister knows how to
tie son of a superrich fathe
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sotto speak to Carter directly.
amg women. And we stl get
te down the rest of what Carter
her. Im Canadian.”
in the March issue, still created a
ented Mr. Fpstein’ ina sy eles 8 FOR
lebrated suspense novel The Tal
ion, by Anthony Minghella, was
sity Fal’ readexs. For Graydon
1s Fpstein some sort of scam artis,
enough. And thruughout the
ers wouldnt miss as they drew: Todd Meister: June 2015
sscins fe story. It came through.
+ parageaph af Wards 7,500-word
& there 3s something innaceut, arty Cipeiuns, on Fifth Avenue, is a New York nsticu-
spon” H tion. The restaurant hegan its life as an American ou-
newas thes ironic —so wich postof Harry's Bor — which wasitselfa famous American
opposite. output in Venice. Located inside the Shecry-Netherland horel,
its a theme restaurant —the theme being money. And today, a
hedge-fund manager neue Todd Meister i talking about a very
weakthy mani—Jeffrey Epstein—wham he knows theough his
father, Epstein's sometiuue friend bob Meister
Tee known Jeffrey since 1 was nineteen” Melster says. “So
Jet me ul you what 1 know—whatever everyone knows and
Eerybody clo says. First ff, hes no billionaire. Second off
30d here's why —he has no clue how 1a invest. He has people do
that fo bien *
Meister knows how to invest. He does it for ocher pecple and. as
sau of a supervich facher, for himself. He also knows about the
i in
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good ie. Pastis in Vegas: weekends in the Hamptons; rs wi The mos: charming maz youd
beautiful women thet end up getting splashed al over he bloids bingeing
\t makes sense that, once upon u time, he und Epstein would tn mt Bey
oy parties, |
have gotten along commertion to Victorias Secret,
As for the girls” Meister says, “that was just business. Hed Throw in the model
seat them surategieally ac client dinners. Whe be went to the Peeps Ta
rovics, hid take three ar four girls with hire. They take turns But the thing is, yes Wide Sh
massaghog bis back, arms, and legs. b Cpsteln, geutng on that plan
nveording to Meise, Lpstein used to bosst tha he “Liked to one Cae
fyshack—the
goat alms because hiked to fuk crazy women ant from his cle tthe golf
wha knows if its trae?” Meister adds. “But Lm telling you, SI
ove slike the male a
hie used to sa 5. amatter of time before hed be
: 10 ask yourself was, are peopl
ali? Or are their morals lke
From time to time, Epstein’s friends and acquaintances would shed (along with all the othe
cs sid of Eps hat hed grove mich less shy about sharing. 1 everyday working people hav
poten couraged Alan Dershuwics invest with a prone Eyes Wide Shur world?
hedge fund manager named Oria Kramer. Dershowitz did, and he :
made a lot of aney a first. But in 2008, the fund Dershanvizz bad
{vest fs lost substantial ammount. Afterward, according to or Bo Mien oh wes TA
oe sociale of Epstiis, Lpsein appeared in Kramer's midtowt forross Seihe Bourdon
Manhattan fice. Thre, sources say, he told Kramer: “Its vey rauch editorial director James Troms
{your interest to make Alan Dershowitz whole” oa
Epstcins inervenion worked, and Derstowits ecosered bis Ee bdies nua Bim
——" At Hany Cigrian, the ques
To people whott known Epstein back in the: 1980s, his kid of
behavior was out of character. But the thing about Cpseia was
acy never could gare ims out, One mit be was charmin
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— Frurms Rien
ds in the Hamptons; affairs with The mas charming man youd ever meet. The next he was snarl,
gz splashed all over the tabloids. threat, and Buster. Something didoft add wp. So youd run the
ma time, he and Epscein vould ‘mumbers: this many parties, that many women. Fven with the
connection to Victorias Secret, the women didnt add up, either.
1s, "that was just business. Hed Throw in the. modeling agency, it makes mere sense. Then
dinners, When be went 10 the you phig in the parties. The scene brings Eyes Wide Stat to mind.
rls swith him. Theyd take turns But the thing is, Eyes Wide Shut only works in the shadows. For
- Cpstein, geuing on that plane with Clinton was more le a
used to boast that be “liked to momen in Caddyshack —the one in which the grounihog peeks
he liked to fuck crazy women aut fram his hole in the golf course. From there ou in, Jeffrey
cister adds. “Bu Tim telling you, Epstein was like the mole in 2 game of whack-a-mole. le vias oaly
a matter of time before he be caught, But the question you had
0 ask yourself was, are people like Epstein born sitaout mor-
als? Or are their morals Tike snakeskin —just something chey
ends and sequaintances would shed (along with all the other basic, day to-day couccras that
it sch less shy about sharing everyday working people have) as they make their say into that
dhowitz ta lavest wth a prominerit Eyes Wide Shut world?
n Kamer. Dershowitz did, and he
1 2008, the fund Dershowitz had.
sunt. Afterward, according to 8 Be Todd Meister, who was martied tr Nicky Hilton and stole the
sin appeared. in Kramer's midtov biiress Samantha Boardman away from Condé Nasts former
say, he old Kramer: "Is very unclt editorial director James Truman, should know He wonders out
xshoviiiz whole, loud:
ed, and Dershowitz recuvered Als “How does a yutz like Epstein yet beautiful women?”
AuTlarsy Cipriani, the question Linge in the air
inn back in the 1980s, this kind
But the thing dboue Epstein
YouL One mite he was chart
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PART IV
The Investigation
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CHAPTER 40
Michael Reiter: January 2006
i
3 fr as Michael Reiter concerned, the case that his tear
has built against Epstein — slowly, meticulously, over the
course of an entire year —is airtight. Even now, Detective
Recarey’s finding new pieces of evidence, And already Reiter's
been laying the groundwork with prosecutors. State artomey
Barry Krischer hs 4 reputation for toughness. Hes kiown,
satianally, for his prosecution of juvenile offenders. And Reiter's
been keeping him abreast of the Investigation. With Jeffrey
Epstein, its not simply 4 matter of seeing him punished. Its &
mate of geting a sexual predator off the streets of Palm Reach,
Krischer assures the chief that hel taking this case very
ously.
The state attoracy’s office will have Reiter's back ul every
tn
“Told hizo that we had an investigation that was very serious
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James Parris |
thatinvolved avery noteworthy person aud that involved a num-
ber of underage females? Reiter would say in his depositian for
the suit that was later seuled by Epstein. “That it was of u sexual
nature. 1 was concerned that we had not reached all of the vic
tims, and we hadnt, I'm sure, at this point. | (wld him that 1 felt
ike the suspect would probably become aware of the investiga:
tion at some point and that we shouid probably expect some con-
tact from... Mr. Epsteir's lawyers. And 1 told him that 1 wanted
10 ep him very well informed on this and that | hoped that he
would do the same. And that we would have fo have more con. 1
cact inn making sure it was handled responsibly, intelligently, and
appropriately as it moved forward"
Relter would say that Epsteinis name did not seem to ring a Detective Recarey: Fel
bell with the state auomey. But shortly afterward, the chief 8
became aware that in certain powerful circles his investigation
was being looked upon unfavorably. “1 had many people-related or months, Joe Reca
conversations ..an the cocktail-party circuit that suggested we F= brought 1 Eps
approach this ina vay thal wasnt necessary.” he would say. and car-rental reconds
Michael Reiter wana good cop. A good ran. But he was about according to source withis
to discover that when it came to men with the power and influ: would idem forty-seven
cnce Epstein wielded, falrness under the Law was a relative, mak on El Brille Way.
leable concept. Recarey interviewed or
David Rogers, as well as Eps
He also spoke to a wun »
It turned out that Epste
actwal Swedish deep-tissuc.
Bor him and Lis friends, ¢
ther,
Did anything untoward
Epsicin ever asked the wom:
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person and that involved a nue:
© would say in his deposition for
Epstein. “That twas of a sexual
ve had not reached all of the vie:
ac this point, 1 told him that felt
y become aware of the lavestiga- 3
should probably expect some con- A
xs, And 1 told him that 1 wanted
d on this and that 1 hoped that he
sve would have to have more con
dled responsibly, intelligently, and
> ame did not scam 10 Ting 3 Detective Recarey: February 2006
But shortly afterward, the chet
+ power circles his investigation
sorably. “| had many people-relited or months, Joe Recarey’s been interviewing girls whod
Lail-party circuit that suggested we been brought to Lpstein's house, subpoenaing telephone
sary?” he would say. and carrental records, conducting surveillance. Ultimately,
a ani But he was about according to. source within the Palm Beach PD, the department
a the power aud infli= would identify forty seven underege girls whod been molested
+ under the law was a relative, mak onl Brilla Way:
Recarey interviewed one of Fpstein's pilots, 3 man named
David Rogers, as well as Epsteins housemnan, Alfredo Rodriguez
He also spoke to a woman who really was a massage therapist.
Ie turned out that Fpstein paid Just one hundred dollars for
actual Swedish deep-tissue massages that the therapist provided
[for him and his friends, the lawyer Alun Dershowitz among
them.
Did anything untoward ever happen? Recarey asked. Had
ein ever asked the woman to rub his chest?
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Jans Pazrimsex
No, she told lim, She wasa't Epsteiuis type. The gals shed
seen at his house were very thin and beawiful and did not bave
tattoos, his massage therapist had several tattoos that were vis-
ible, andl on quite a few occasions Epstein and Ghislatme Max-
well had made negative comments about ther.
‘According toa Palm Beach Police Department Incident Report
fied by Recarey an July 25, 2006, the detecuive hau also heard 8
{rom Mary's ather, who said that a private eye. had been Lo his
house, photographing his family aud chasing visitors away.
‘Mary's dad had gotten the license plate — Florida ET9-4EG.
Recatey traced it back to one Ivan Roles of West Palm Beach. ]
Robles mrned out to be s licensed private investigator: 1
Recarey informed the state's attorney's office. | Barry Krischer: April
Alison also contacted Recarey and told bim that shed been 1
approached by soueone who wis in touch with Epstein. Alison
had heen told that she'd receive money if she would refuse © 3 late atorney Barry |
cooperate with the police. Ne taking his gost
Those who help him will be compensated, she was told pvand agen Peles
according to Detective Recarey’s incident port. “And those who 1992 azd 1996, he had rus
hurt hz will be dealt with." and 2004, During the cou
Recarey reassured the girl and told her that tampering witha. 1970 with a three-year sti
witness in a case like this was a serious, avrestable offense Brooklyn, he received 2 my
Then he told an assistant state attorney. from the Legal Aid Society
he detective was leaving uo | nndotted sud no uncrossed. with the juvenile justice s
But he did wonder if the state attorney's office itself had Protection team; the Peace
become part of the problem. Bor Jeb Bush, for his work
tinue achievement award fi
member of the National I
Wos not necessarily averse
In 2003, Iie launched an in
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Epstelns type. The gils shed
and beautiful and did not have
2d several tattoos that were vis
1 Epstein and Ghislaine Max-
's abou them. |
lice Department incident Report |
6, the detective had also heard. CHAPTER 42
1 2 private eye had been to his
and chasing visitors away.
ense plute — Florida E79. 4EG.
fran Robles of West Palm each. 3
4 private investigator 3
attorney’ office Barry Krischer: April 2006
y and told him that shed been 5
1s in touch with Epstein. Alizan
+ money if she would refuse to ate atorney Barry Krischer was an elected. official, but
Gr talking his post, hed beeu a lawyer in private practice:
be compensated, she was told in and around Palm Beach. Elected twice to his office, in
{neident report. “Aud those who. 1992 and 199%, he had run unopposed for state uitorney in 2000
and 2004. During the course of his long career, which began in
told er tha tampering with 1970 with a three-year stint in the district auorney’s offic in
serious, anestable offense. Brooklyn, he received a number of awards: the pro bono award
A from the Legal Aid Society of Palin Beach County for his service
» tndotted and no ¢ uncrossed: ith the juvenile Justice system and for his work with the child
state attorney's office itself had procection eam; the Peace at Home award, presented by Gover
oc Jeb Bush, fo his work with victims of family violence; a lfe-
time achievement award from the Florida Bar, He wis a board
etuber of the National District Attorneys Association. And he
not necessarily averse 1o going after the rich and powerful,
2003, he launched an investigation into Rush © imbaugh's use
ww iw
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Janes Barrens
of, and means of obtaining oxycodone and hydrocodone. (A fess former law firm agreed
years fier Limbaugh's arrest, which caincided with Chief Rell sand dollars in legal fees
ers investigation into Jeffrey Epstein, the talkshow host setled
with prasecutars, agreed to submit to random drug testing, and
gave up his firearms permit) Now Chief Reiter aud Dx
Krischer himself, however, had been accused of sexuil their own questions abe
misconduct. went a charge Epstein
I October of 1992, Jodi Bergeron. a legal scretary hail worked behavior and Jour cour
for Krischer, fled a sexual harassment wsuit against him in the minor felony charges
“Palm Beach County circuit court, That suit was dismissed, buta fw behind bars in the cas
months later, the woman took Keischez to federal court, accusing Kellen would be charged
him of aking nmvanted advances and demanding recompense for This was not the plas
baery, negligence, invasion of privacy, and emationa! distress for Jeffrey Fpstein.
Ketscher fiad placed his hands, violently, inside her Blouse, In cases involving th
Lae woman said. Hed forcibly fondled hes breasts, forcibly kissed attorneys tend 10 have 5
her, and rubbed her shoulders while brushing her buttocks with But instead of granting b
his hands sad knees, all while accompanying the gestures with 4 the police thal he would
verbal advances, asked to considera broac
When she declined those advances, the woman claitned, : Ina case such as Epstc
Krischer fired her, | ag in and of itself. Bury
Krischer dened the allegations, At the time, he was making bis only required i: capital cas
first run lor the state. aworney’s office. The charges were politically | may dso be called in ©
motivated, he said. Members of a local chapter of NOW—the (8 Imvalving crimes committ
National Organization for Women — had stood by the laviyer, Gi wasnt a public offical, au
ing his efforts 0 stop domestic vielenee, among his other virus. cerned, the only controver
1 am here ta support Barty Keischer for the work his office that Epstein was rich an
aid in my daughter's case” one wornan said during 4 tally thal BA. vs. Epuiin, Chief Rei
100k place. in front of the courthouse. “Her murderer received cuter had to make sure |
the maximum sentence, a lie semence” able doubt. And Krischer s
Thesecond lawsuit had also been dismissed —after Krischets: ofthe young women whot.
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odane and hydrocodone. (A few former law firm agreed to pay Bergeron's attorney seven thou.
hich coincided with Chief Reit- sand dollars in legal fees.
stein, the talkshow host settled
uit 0 random drug testing, and
Now Chief Reiter and Detective Recarey were beginning 10 have
had been accused of sexual their own questions about Barry Krischer. The Palm Beach PD
wanted to charge Epsicin with one count of lewd and lascivious
ron, a legal secretary who'd worked. behavior and four counts of unlawful sexual activity with 1
stent lawsuit against hin in the minor—felony charges that would have amounted to years
That suit was dismissed, but 4 few 1 bebind bars in the case of a conviction. Wendy Dobbs and Sarah
‘rischer to federal court, accusing Kellen would be charged as accomplices.
es and demanding recompense for This was not the plan that Krischer seetaed to have in mind
fvacy, and emotional disress. for ellrey Epstein
ads, violently, inside her blouse. In cases involving the sexual abuse of minors, prosecuting
dled her breasts, forcibly kissed 5 attorneys tend to have suspects arrested, then push for a trial
while brushing her buttocks with But instead of granting his approval for an arrest, Krischer told
accompanying the gestures with the police that he would convene » grand jury, which would be
asked to consider a broad range of charges.
advances, the woman claimed, Ina case such as Fpstein's, this was highly unusual. Not damn.
ing in and of itself. But very strange. In Florida, grand juries are
Jus. Al the time, he was making his. Only required in capital cases. At the stare attorney's discretion, they
office. The charges were politically way also be called in controversial casci—for stance, cases
of a local chapter of NOW—the involving crimes committed by public officials. But Jeffrey Epstein
sen—had stood by the lawyer, dit wasn't a public: official, and as far as the Palm Beach PD was con-
riolence, among his ther virtues. cémed, the only controversial thing about the case they'd built was
+ Krischer for the work bis office tat Epstein was ich and well connected. In his depostion for
+e woman said during a cally thal LB. vs. Eptets, Chief Reiter rel syrel Krischer's concerns: the pras-
arthouse. “Her murderer recedt tor had to make sure that his ces: was solid, beyond a reason-
PO bl dou. And Krischer did have his doubss about the credibility
been dismissed —aftes Krisct the young women whoid be called to testify against Fpstein.
ie 165
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Joncas Parreason |
Puen so, Relter was beginning to wonder if Krischer was
stacking the deck in Epstein favor— if, thanks 10 the sway
prosecutors have aver grand juries, assembling such a Jury
wasnt an excellent way to let Epstein off with the lightest pun-
ishment possible
Another unusual thing: the vay Barry Krischer and the law-
yers working for hiro ignored Chief Reiter's multiple phone calls
‘25 well as Detective Recatey's—even though the police had been
‘hearing, [rom Epstein's awn lawyers.
s(Krischer] and 1 had an excellent relationship.” Chief Reiter
<aid in his deposition. “T was the speaker at his sweariog-in cete-
mony, And thas he wouldrit return my phone calls —T mean, ic |
seas clear to me by his actions that he could not objectively look Palm Beach Police Depar
at this case” by Detective Joseph Reca
1a the incideat ropa be ended up writing, Detective Recarey 8 On April £3 and April 14,
remembered 2 phone call that he received from Guy Fronstin, 1 eral occasions with ASA |
one of the lawyers representing Fpsiein. Weis and £52 fam)
It was & message Epstein wanted to send, something central © 1 victims needed to report or
the case that demanded explanation. The whale shit show swirling are, Wt on het voice
around him was just a misunderstanding. a mistepresentation— hours of 9.00 am and 12:30
of Epstein’ actual inferests and inenvions. Weiss and ASA Belohlavek
Fronstin says Mr. Ipstein is very passionate abou massages, call as had not heard from
Detective Recarey would write ht rear det of to
And: Mr. Epstein had donated aver $100,000 to the Ballet of At approximately 12:30
Florida for massages. ney’ Office and Located A¢
nd: The massages are therapeutic and spiritually sound for their offices. { entered ASA
him. That is why he has had so many massages. me shat she was going to re
@n offer was made to the: |
iss
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mg tw wander if Krischer vs
favor— if, thanks to the sway
uries, assembling such a jury
tein off wich the lightest pun-
way Barry Krischer and the law
ef Reitec’s multiple phone calls ~
even though the police had heen CHAPTER 43
ellent relationship,” Chief Reiter
speaker at his swearing in cese-
«ern my phone calts— | mean, it
at he could not objectively look Palm Beach Police Department incident Report Filed
by Detective Joseph Recarey: july 25, 2006
!
d up viting, Detective Recarey On April 13 and April 14, 2006, | attempred contact an sex-
he received from Guy Fronstin, ent accasions with ASA fasistau state attorney Dut i
Lpstein. Weiss and ASA [Lanna] Befohlavek ascertain when the
ated to seed, something central 1a vii needed report for Grand Jury testimany. Messages
tion. The whole shit show swirling ware lft on shir weet, On April 1, 2006, during ge
<tiunding—a misreprescutation— Fours uf 9:00 am and 11:30 om J agin left rss — 5
atemtions. Weiss and ASA Belohlavek or either of them to retum my
very passionate: about massages, all as I had not heard from the State Attorney's Office as to
the time and date of the Grand Jury, :
ted over $100,000 to the Ballet of AC approximately 12:30 pm, 1 wen to the State Artor
ney’s Office: and Locared ASA Weiss and :
ASA Welss and ASA Belohiasck in
sapratic and spiritually sound fF their offices. entered ASA Betohlavel's office who informed
any massages. e that she was going tw veturn iny call. Ske explained that
an offer vas made to the Defense, Auty Guy Fronstin wnd
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Jasess ParTeRson
Atty Alan Dershowitz. The offer fs | count of Agg Assault
with intent to commit a felony, five years probation, with
adjudication withheld, Fpstebn would have (0 submit i psy-
Chiatricisexual evaluation and ao unsupervised visits with
minors, When asked about all the other victims, ASA
Belohlavek stated that was the only offer made as to one vic-
tim, Mary. ASA Belohlavehis] cell phone rang and went to
voice mail. She checked her voice mail and played the mes
sage on speaker. The calle identified himself as Atiy Guy
Fronstin andl acmowledged the deal made between them.
Frost stated in the message, he spoke with bis client, Jef
rey Epstein, and would agree to this deal. Fronstin asked to
call off the grand jury as they would accept dhs deal | Michael Reiter: May 2(
Belohlavek stat probable cause vould be needed to book
Epstein in the county Jail and would let me know as to where ;
it was needed. 1 plained my disapproval of the deal and not denote
being consulted prior to the deal being offered. However | 3 A Chief Reiter is o
expressed that was only wy opiaion and the final apprival 8 Steins da
would come from the Chief of Police. She: explained to have Ev Po aad or
Chief Reiter call Barry Krischer abn the deal. Tet the Soe Epic got off with oa
area and returned 10 the police station where | briefed the 3 ad a peych exam.
Chief about the deal offered Why?
J checked my voice mail messages and discovered a mes- HT
sage from [the] stepmother for the victtm (Mary). She was Pieces of evidence —printoy
calling because the State. Attorney's Office sill hud not To bir “A535 Me cone
returned any of her cals as to when they are needed for this Ie ti eee
case. | then called ASA Belohlaveles office and left messages Ee “Ever ron an,
Jor her 10 cal the vicims on this case and explain (0 them “Yeah,
vihat the State Attorney's Office had done. Under *Ever shoplified*:
Under “Ever skinny dipp
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er is 1 count of Agg Assault
1, five years probation, with
would have to submit psy
no unsupervised visits with
all the other victims, ASA
only offer made as to one vic
cell phone rang and went ta I
ice mail and played the mes- | CHAPTER 44
tentifiet himself as Atty Guy
ie deal made between them
he spoke wich fis client, Jef
10 this deal. Fronstin asked to
hey would accept this dec. Michael Reiter:
1: May 200(
ause vould be needed to book ay 2008
would lec me know as to when
Jlisapproval of the deal and not Pleaalier?
teal being offered. However | A Clieh Ba
. citer is outraged. His fea has logy:
pinion and dhe final approval sands of hours of work. They've asembled A
Palice. She explained to have evidence. But instead of going 10 trial, the state ut se
her about the deal. T eft the A I Mi
ce station where 1 briefed the and 1 poyeh exam, *. five years of probation,
Why?
\essages und discovered « mes- ——
io 1 owitz bas presented the pros:
torney's Office sull had not i
2 when they are needed for this Mary has written “Ass and - st physical feature,”
Taveks office and lft messages Niner “Ever de
© “Ever drank” aud “Ever sm
this cuse and explain to fhe “Yeah aud “Ever smoked pot,” she's written
rhelime, Under “Ever shoplifted® “Lots”
Under “Tver skinny dipped “Yeah.”
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Juss Brrrensen
Under {Dio} you sara ose yor virginity; Talready lost iL" E —
Oni of the victims has been caught with drugs and arrested.
She's also heen caught stealing from V ictoria’s Secret. From the EF TOWN OF
tate attorney's perspective, these girls look like compromised cel POLICE
women. And if what they say about Fipstein is Lue, wouldn't that EY sisi
make them prostituies?
Ns witnesses, they wanld be. weak, while the lawyers on | r——
Epics side were exceptionally Song Sim
41n Dershowitz had tepresented Clans von Blow, the Brit- Sra, i
{sh socialite who was acquitted of the unurder of his wife, San. i
Dershowecz had been on 0 J. Simpson's team whee the foruer | msm eg se
ont sar ras acquit of the nudes of bis ex-wife, Kicole SERA
Brown Simpson and Nicole's friend Ronald Lyle Goldman. And | po a Tn
Heh as son Bilaw and Sianpson had been, neither one had had Ee
he resources that Epstein vas willing ane able to depley in his (=
awa defense. | a
ether of hers had been intimate friends wich is lawyer. 8 SRR
ns far as Reier was concerned, none of that matered. Even SS | ia
Epstein thought that the girls hed molested were sigh. year &
deve if they bad led to hi —it didot matter under Flor A
ida law, The chief grew worried that in Epsteinis case exceptions - il
were being sade, and he grew even more concerned w ith cach
snretarned call that he made to the state atiomey’s office.
On May 1, the Palm Beach PD asked the state attomey’s office Prec sircaniony
10 issue an apvest wasrant for Jeffrey Epstein. —
That same day, Chief Relter took the extraordinary sie of
writing Barry Krischer a letter all but demanding that he recuse
himself from the case.
wn
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survirginity’: “Lalready lost it” -—
aught with drugs and arrested. | —
‘om Victoria's Secret. From the. GE TOWN OF PALM BEACH |
girls look like compromised Gl§s95 POLICE DEPARTMENT &
ut Epstein is true, wouldnt that | = BT PN — |
« weak, while the lawyers an ——— |
song SE
ated Claus von Blow, the brit ERT [
{the murder of his wife, Sunny, boss
pss team whe the rer | cone ts nn cv oon |
nd Ronald [le Golduwan. And § ER SE RRR |
(imate friends with bis lye. A LT er a |
+d, none of that mattered, Even if fe die Liu Rl £2 |
#d molested were eighteen years :
ait didnt is Flor Muka Res)
that in Epstein's case exceptous - Surin |
even more concerned with each |
the ste storeys office
D asked the seate avorney's office: a —— |
{fey Epstein. —
+ took the extravidinary step of
all but demanding that he rec
wn
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fa
Q Can you tellus why?
A Well, iol the handling -
way the sate attorney's of
unusual. | knew that M
about this case. T felt tha
1 felt that the appropriate
” o averned the assignment
5 iR 45 f =
CHAPTER that his action met the st
from the statute in here, £
wouldn't return my phone
The detective antempt
3 state atiorney’s office, 121
Videotaped Deposition of Michael Reiter in BB. vs. : sos th..m she
Epstein, a civil lawsuit against Jeffrey Epstein ii ik
November 23, 2009 3 case und ask the governor
Tike that was necessary for
point you sent a letter © state attorney Burry Bad been submitted to hin
te. etme ow yo what wel rk a exhib 3 1 @ Could you ell us, explain
ii i hance fo read through this letter again to help tivity may be licking fe
refresh your recollection. you felt made It potentially
['ve read it. We ”
A ie) in May of 2006, I'm assuming based on what A: Well... when 1 first told h
Li told us before that you had had some conversations wilh that it was a serious case, |
you her dircctly... by phone. —corsectt— prio to this and] chat the suspect was
Barry Kiscl i it. Amd we were—it was i
letter. meeting that he and 1 we
. ccting that he and | we
he wersations in persan and by phone.
pi in onetheless in May—May 1, 2006—you fl the Known in 10 be a victim
ay. Jue A ease of children. Well, | know tl
ais letter; is that correct? h
need to write this letter, Is Statute that addresses tho
Yes
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Farr Rien
Q Can youtell us why?
A: Well, 1 elt the handling —and just concimued to fel that the
way the state attorney's office handled this case was extremely
wisual. T knew that Mr. Krischer was making decisions
about this case. 1 fel that his objectivity was lacking, and |
felt that the appropriate way, after reading the sane that
”. 1 governed the assignment of cases to other circuits — 1 felt
CHAPTER 45 that bis action met the standard, 1 used some of the words
from the statute in here. And 1 attempred to call kim, and he
wouldut retuen my phone calls.
The detective attempted (0 contact his conser In the
state auarney's office, Lanna Belohlavek, however you pro-
Michael Reiter in BB. vs. nounce that... and she wouldn't recur his calls, So 1 wrote
winst Jeffrey Fpstein: the letter in hope that he would think about his situation and
¥ h realize that his objectivity was insufficient to prosecute the
case and ask the governor to appoint someone else. And 1 lt
like that was necessary fo a fair prosecution of our case that
a eater 10 state acoruey Bary. had been submitted to him.
a what well mark as exhibit 3. Let Q Cold yon tell us, explain to us, why you felt that his objec
ad through this leer again 10 help tivity may be lacking in regards to this prosecution... ? In
other wards, what evidence did yon sec here, uncover, that
you felt rade it potentially nonobjective?
2006, Pm assuming hased on Fal A: Well.._when 1 first told him shout the case, and | realized
had had some conversations with hat it was a serious case, [that] there were multiple victims,
by phone correct! —priorio is and) that the suspect was very well known, I told him shout
7 it And we were—it was in person. T talked to him after a
oo meeting that he aud 1 were both involved in. And 1 had
May May 1, 2006—you 6 known him 0 be a victim adsocate snd to protect die rights
{5 that carreet? of children. Well, 1 know that he even wrote « purtion of the
Statute thor addresses those issues. And when I told him
m Ci
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Jas Parrinsox
originally, he said, “Let's go fori; this s au adult male in his
fifties who's had sexual contact with children of the ages of
{le victims" He said this is somebody veh we have 10 stop.
And whatever we need, he said, in the siace attorney's office,
we have a unit that’s equipped 10 fnvestigat: and prosecute
these kinds of cases, And 1 did't have too many facts carly.
on when 1 talks! with him, but kaiew that there were muhl-
ple victims and to our detectives they were believable. So
when time went on and Mr. Epstein became avare of the
investigation and his lawyers contacted the site aoraey’s
office, they told me that
‘And from that point on, and | believe it was Mr. Dershow- 8
r= initially, the tone and tenor of the discussions of this case Detective Recarey: May
ith Mo. Krischer changed completely. [At] oue point he sug: : i
gesicd that we write [Epstein] 3 notice Lo appear. which
would be for a wisdemeanor. He just completely changed biel Reiter's letter to 4
from ot only our frst conversation about this|— when] ke (Cee
didn't know the name Jeffrey Epstein- ill when he had Rrischer did not
been informed on Mr. Epsiein's reputation and his wealth, arest wartant was issued, &1
and 1 just thought that very unusual tive Recarey received a telep
1 feel like 1 kaw him or knew him very well, the staie ney Dlich Weiss, who advis
attorney, and 1 just fel like be could net objectively make he Epsicin case.
decisions about this case: that is vy Twrore i. Weiss had been the perfo
tember of the special victix
and crimes against children, p
ig rape, aggravated child al
added another lawyer, aman
Goldberger his auorney of re:
| Goldberger was friendly
late of Goldberger’ was mar
wm
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or it his is an adult male in bis |
act with children of the ages of
somehody who we have to stop.
aid, in the state atorne’s office,
sed to tmvestigate and prosecute
didnt have too many facts early
ut T knew that there were multi-
sctives they were believable. So CHAPTER 46
1. Epstein became aware of the
5 contacted the state attorney's
and believe t was Mr. Dershow- (I
Jor of the discussions of this cass J Detective Recarey: May 2006
zompletely. [At] ane point be sug:
tein] u notice. to appear, shih
wor. He just completely chunged. hie Retzer’s letter to the state attorne Lo
wersation about chist — when] be: Co i
frey Epstein ill when he had Krischer did not recuse bimself from the case. No
tein's zeputation and his wealif, artes warrant was Issued. And on the aftertoar of May 3, Detec-
SS} 3 tre Recatey received a telephone call from assistant state ator
or knew him very well, the stale ney Daliah Weiss, who advised him tha she had been taken off
lie could not objectively make the Epstein case
hat is why wrote it Weiss had been the perfect person to prosecute Epstein. 4s a
tember of the specie] vietims i, she. focused on sex crimes
nd rites against chillren, prosecuting high-profile cases invol-
ig rape, aggravated child abuse, and neglect. But Fpstein hud
added another lawyer, a man named Jack Goldberger, and made
Goldberger his attorney of record.
| Goldberger was friendly with Barty Krischer —and am asso-
of Goldberger's was marcied to Daliali Weiss,
14 ws
HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_010516
Jaes Pacranson Poms
If Epstein legal team had wanted to semave Weiss from the “I dont know how much y
case, this sould have hen a good way to do it national Aicport. Its the kind
Ning days later, Detective Recarey met with ASA Lanna valet parking, and waiting low
Belohlavek, sho told him that ber boss, Barry Krischer, had asked youll see inn Manhatten, Its ¢
he again to take: the case Lo the grand jury: Recarey told Beloblavek Saudi princes, heads of siate. F
hat be hid lady requested arrest wareants for Epstein, Sarah Kel- vacy. You can bring limousine
Jen, and Weaudy Dobbs. The Palm Beach PI had finshed its iovesti- out Epstein was very secretive
gacion months eackier, he aid, and had been waiting since then ox want anyone to know the tail u
he case to move Forward. He asked her once more to iswe the war- But our contac did't like
rants. Once again Belohlavek declined, saying that the original offer 8 how young the girls around Eg;
her office had made to Epsteinis old laveyer had been resubminted to had che 727% tail number, an:
dhe mew Lauwser, When Epstein reply cate, she would call someone | wom suy 100 muc!
While waiting for that call, Recarey received several calls flight plan for a certain trip h
from Mary's father, who told hi that he was being followed bya going to land at the airport. A
green Chevrolet Monte Carlo—tatled so aggressively that other 8 the station's traffic helicopter a
vehicles were being run off the. road. Recarey rau the plates and 8 hundred feet a quarter mile sou
found that the Chevy was registered 10 one Zachary Bechard of “Our cameraman had a tele
Jupiter, Florida. tight shot, an video, of Epstein
Bechard was a licensed private eye. &d get the shot: Epstein, with
flipped up over his neck, ahout
that was waiting lor him,
«A funny thing happened in Palm Beach, says Ti Malloy, who “Then he saw our helicopter
was working as a TV newscaster in South Florida at the time. “1 was doing u live voice-av
“This would have been right around the time that Michel Ritst video anyone had ou him «
Reiter sent his letter asking Barry Krischer to recuse himself run back ono the plane, The
from the case. | didn't even know what Epstein looked like, break, my producer told me
really, ut the time. We hud pictures taken by the British tabloids Epstein wants us to stop taking
where the link to Prince Andrew first broke. But we didnt have. alk 0 you.
Loo many of them. What we did have was u contact in the huagtt “The cameraman kept rolll
where Epstein kept his 727. Ou, or into a cur with tinted
ue 5
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anted to remove Weiss from the *T dont know how much you know about Palin Beach Incer-
PA national Airport. 16s the kind of place that has private hangars,
Recarey met with ASA Lanna valet parking, and waiting lounges that look ss chic as anything,
+ boss, Harry Krischer, bad wked youl see in Manhattan. Is an airport for che rich, basically
and jury. Recarey told Peloblavek Saudi princes, heads of state. Powerful ten who value ther pri-
stwarnants for Epstein, Sarah Kel vacy. You can bring limonsines onto the tarmac. And we found
Peach PD had finished ics investi out Epstein was very secretive about his dealings there. He didrt
4 od been waiting since then or want anyone to kuow the atl numbers on his planes,
d her once more to issue the war- 8 But our contact did like Epscin. And he was horrified by
ined, saying that the uriginal offer how young the girls around Tpstein were. So thanks to him, we
d lawyer had been resubmitzed to had the 7275 tail number, and thanks one: other source—
ply cane, she would call. someone [ wont say too much about here we had Epstelris
Recarey received several calls 8 flight plan for a certain crip he was miaking, We Loew he was
that he was being followed bya ME joing Lo land at the wirpart. And so our producer climbed info
tailed 50 aggressively that other the sation’ traffic helicopter and told the pilot to haver at five
road. Recarey ran the plates and hundred feet a quarter mile south of the field.
tered (0 one Zachary Bechard of “Our cameraman had a telephoto lens The idea ws to gt 2
tight shot, on video, of Epsteln deplaning. And for a mement we
a did ge the shot: Epstein, with the collar of his cashmere cost
lipped wp over his neck, about 10 ram down the steps into a cart
Un ms elting for Li,
Im Beach” says fim Malloy, who. “Thien he sax our helicopter, with the steronts markings.
in South Florida at the time. “Twas doing a live voice-over on Tipstein’s arrival It was the
hi around the time that Michael first video anyone had on him wp to that paint. But Epwein had
iarry Krischer to recuse himself run back onto the plane. Then, during the next commercial
know what Epstein looked Ie, break. my producer told me through my headpiece: Jelfrey
ures taken by the British tabloids, Epstein wants us to stop taking his picure. In fact, he wants to
ew first brake. But we didn't haves talk to you.
1 have was x contact ix the hang “The cameraman kept rolling. And eventally Epstein got
80 into a car with tinted windows, and was driven over the
ws 7
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Tases Barras
bridge tn bs home in Palm Beach. So na sense we alld 10 get |
he stoey, but the face that Epstein would call a news program |
from his plane and comumand them 1 order the prograru's wraffic
belicopter away. that says something about the mass arto:
ance. And maybe his temper”
Mary: July 2006
June 29, assistants
would be going to a
covered for July 19.
On July 12, Recarey spok
that she sll adit heard fc
100, was old, since Recarey
pon to testify.
She was hack in Palm Bez
out fae relatives.
Allin al, it bad beena ve
“What has happened to
father would say
Mary bad been sent to ¢
Rett 7a the wrong place at
is
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h. So in u sense we failed to get
ein would call a news program
+m 0 order the program's traffic
neiling about the man's arro-
CHAPTER 47
Mary: July 2006
1 Junie 29, assistant state attorney Lanna Belohlavek told
would he going to a grand Jury fier all. One bad been
convened for uly 19,
On July 12, Recarey spoke with Mary's stepmother, wh said
that she will hadnt heard from the state auweney's office. This,
tou, was odd, sine Reearey knew that Mary would be called
upon to testify
She was back in Palm Beach now, alier months of living with
out-of-state relatives.
Allin ll, it had been a very tough year for Mary.
“What has happence to my daughter’ life is criminal” her
ther would say.
Mary had been sent to a school for troubled children. [ior
iL was the wrong place at the worst time in her life. She had
&% ww
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Jans: Parrenson ”
gotten nto more fights there, growing depressed and withdraw, TL
from her sister and parents, Helpliessly, her parents watched hex celebrity lawyer—Ken Sta
spiral owt of control. As they neared the end. of their cope, they hat hd Bill Clinton impeae
ent hee out of ste, But after the move, Mary had fallen apart eam,
completely. She used drugs, fell in with a bad crowd. ra away 5 far as Mary's parents
from her relatives, aud shacked up with a gang of drug dealers walked into an ambush. Ew
‘When the gang was busied by local police, he dealers blaued playing defense on the side
Mary for snicching and pu ot the word that they wanted bee ond girl — Alison, who cla
dead. never testified in court atal
We had to move her again,” Mary's father explained. “We
inal got her to therapy —she’ will seing the herapist. And
worst of sll, she developed [TPV. She's already had to have a seri- i
ous operation” j
‘Mary's roubles didnt end there. On June 28, she vas brought
in front of the grand Jury. She hadnt been briefed by the state
attoraey—she. hada even met the prosecutors—and she had (8
no iden what she vould be asked.
‘Aluost immediately, she found that she was being eed
‘mare like a criminal than like a witness or viet.
“The prosecutor produced a printout of our daughters
Myspace page; Mary’ fathe recalls. “Mary was stuuaed She
began to cry. The prosecutor accused hee of all sort of thing
was like she was working for Epstein.
ALL this time, we kncyr tha we were being watched. Creepy
guys. Privars. investignors fram Marl. they would follow 4%
caring the hell out of my wife and Mary sister My car was ais
dalized. Towas like Living in hell”
By this poor, Epsein's defense drearn trad included Jack
Goldberger, Alan Disshowizz, and Gerald 1 four. All of te
in excellent track tecords. Dershowitz and Lelconrt were (88
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FER Furey Rien
wing depressed and withdrawn, of Americas mast famous lawyers, and before long, anath
lessly, her parents watched her celebricy lawyer—Kem Starr, the former solicitor " — iid
ew ant of their rope, they RR bt hn 1] Clinton peach for perfory— would i
+e move, Mary had fallen apart team, rjury—would join Epsteinis
in with a bad crowd, ran away As far as Mary's parents were concerned, their daugh
1p with a gang of drug dealers. | alkene i —" nthe WL ied
Local palice, the dealers blamed playing defense on the side of jeffrey Ipstein. And as Fi . oe
the word that they wanted hes ond girl —Alison, wha claimed that she had et ih
never testified in court atall,
Marys facher explained. “We
es still secing the therapist. And
She's already had 10 have a seri
ere. On June 28, she was brought
hadn't been briefed by the state
the prose: utors—and she had J
a
Jun that she was being treated
| witaess or victim.
1 a printout of our daughers
recalls, “Mary was stunned. She
ceased her of all sort of things:
rein
we were being watched. Creepy
m Miami. They would follow uss
and Mary's sister. My car was Yar
a
fense dream team incloded Ja
and Gerald Lefcourt. All of 8
Yershowitz and Lefcourt were we
cl 1
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¥
‘Once again, Chief Reite
took the extrordinnary ste]
prosecutor’ office.
Atthe time, the federal
Flarida wns a Republican
Reicer recalls heing presen
CHAPTER 48 und remembers Acosta's de:
be the. prosecution, 1 the
who takes whantage of th
sex crimes. Disgusted with
sccalls thinking hed found
In Acosta, the chief saw
Michael Reiter: July 2006 from confrondng a man
connections.
j Buti tree out that Ac
«July 28, the grand jury reached a verdict that flaored Starr's high-powered multir
the Palm Beach PD. | nd while Acosta had aster
O The ariginal plea deal tht Krischer had offered to | clerking for futuze Supreme
Epstein had been bad enough. Naw the grand jury wes vecom- only argued two cases befor
mending that Lpstein be charged with just one felony count of Atthe time, Reiter id not
salicitation of prostittion one hud to look much more se
‘There was no mention of undersge girks. The original
accusation — our felony counts of unlawful sex acts with minots
and one: felony count of lewd and lascivious molestation — had Reiter's actions did not nce
simply evaporated ot in every corner of the cor
Itwasnl enough to send Epsicis to prison. “1 had individuals sugges
Ipstein was allowed ta surrender on # Sunday, when 10 one the investigation ad wy cel
would Know hed been arraigned. A few hours Tater, be wis 8 Was mare horsepower than
released on three thousand dollars bail. bad ocher individuals sugge
The Palm Beach PD) was not even notified. probably fis," Reiter said in]
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Once again, Chicf Reiter was outraged. So much so tht he
took che extraordinary step of calling the 51 and the federal
prosecutor's office.
At the time, the federal prasecator of the Southern District of
Florida was a Republican named R. Alexander Acosta. Chit
Reiter recalls belug present at Acostas swearing-in ceremony
CHAPTER 48 and remembers costa’ declaration that one of his goals would
be the prosecution, to the fullest extent of the law, of anyone
wha takes advantage of the weal — especially perpetrators of
sex crimes. Disgusted with Krischer's laissez faire autitude, Reiter
recalls thinking hd found his men
In Acosta, che chief saw 4 prosecutor who wouldnt shy away
fram confronting a man with Jeffrey Fpstein's resources and
connections,
a But it tured out that Acosta had worked under Ken Starr ac
ry reached a verdict that floored Staer's high-powered multinational lew firm, Kirkland & Ellis
And while Acosta had a sterling résume, which included a stint
leal that Keischer had offered to. clerking for future Supreme Court justice Samuel Alite, be had
Now the grand jury was tecom= only argued two cases before a judge.
sed with just one felony count of Auth ume, Reiter did not know this. All he knew was that some-
one had 10 look much more seriously neo Jeffrey Epstciis crimes
of underage girls. The original
sof nlaswfl sex acts with minors
and lascivious molestation —had Relrer's actions did not necessarily make him a hero—at least,
Bt in every corner of the: community be served
teins prison. “1'had Individuals sugges! that che departueats approach to
cender on a Sunday, when no af the investigation and my referral of the investigation to the FRI
ened. A few hours later, he more horsepawer than the vestigation deserved. And {
lars bail otier individuals suggest that—ycah, the term hack off
steven notified baby fits Reiter suid in his deposition for 2.8, vs, Epstein.
152 183
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Janes Parenson Fue
“Thad people n the community in Palm Beach who ither made “My responsibilicy was to
comments directly to te or to others who relayed them to me that Beach and preserve their con
didaftneed to take the tack in the investigation that we did, which is department Fails Reiiec ash
tol completly isrestigate it and then refer i to the FBI afer the particularly under the crimin
state case was resolved” Reiter said in the deposition. “1 had one NN
individual who came to see me couple of ime about this But along with handing ¢
According to the chief, che individual in question was & Jie Reletr dk shes
prominent Palm Beach politician Ietiets—un Palm Beach PD
“He said this wast necessary: this was a case that was really shotimasintie cose.
very minor," Reites recalled. “The victims had lifestyles that Yio dared ie Teesh by
dot make them — shouldnt make them befievable ta the police
department”
“I 101d him that these Kinds of suggestions to me were 8
{proper and he should stop?” said Reiter. “That he hod taken x S38
couple of steps doven the rood wivard something that could
eventually constitute a crime, We talked several mes. Eacly on (8
«didnt end favorably. Yon kuow chis is an individual (whom 1 p
had to interact with in my official capacity and in his official 3
capacity as well”
The Palm Reach politician wasn't the only one fo pressure
{le police chief. “I received comments (rom a variety of diferent
viewpotnis...in some cases | had people ell me, ley, he's a Pala
Beaches, why are you investigating a Palm Beacher?” Reifel
auld say when deposed. “1 had people that said it was an unfa=
voxable career move for we to ask the state atomey to remove
himself from the case and to refer it 0 the FBL.... had plenty of
people that told me that that wes a mistake.
Reiter didi back off. To have done so would have been &
betrayal—not only of he vizrims bu alsa of his vocation 4nd
the community he had sworn he would serve.
184
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rR Erms Rice
yin Palm Beach who either wade “My responsibility vas to protect everyone that lies in Pal
smmwhprelaged evi we hes Beach and preserve their constitutional rights and be dhe —
mvestigation that we did, which is department for all,” Reiter said. "And 1 think that a
then rer t. 10 the FRI afer the yaticatarly under the criminal lw, thar al people ave
aid in the deposition. <1 had one the nature of one sysiem, be treated exactly pay ee
ouple of times about this” But aloag with handing the case off 10 the oh lb the
Bg letters —on Palm Bea ka, 4
"a AE h PD letterhead —to the parents of the
The victims had lifestyles that Te delivered the letters by hand.
ike them believable to the police
sds of suggestions to me were
sid Reiter. “That he had talena J
1 toward something that could
Ve talked several times. Early on
this san individual [whom] ©
icinl capacity and in his official
yeasn the only one fo pressure
uments from a variety of diffesent
people tell me, leg, he's a Pals
gating a Palm Boacher?” Reiter
people that said it was an unfis
ask the state attorney o rEMOYE
fer it to the EB... had plenty of
15a mistle”
ave done so would sve been
ims but also of his vocation
1c would serve.
184 185
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FES TOWN OF PALM BEACH |
Ce] POLICE DEPARTMENT
2 8A KOMEDI (IT
| ose A AS | | Jeffrey Epstein: Septem,
aT ST 1 1 the winter of 2013, Sau
ata rar ro G4 EBS 1 ry dare | be seutenced 10 the m
"
Mitoul€ lak, ing gy one char of
Team Blake's crime? He sent se
wine tou Beach police officer who «
een boy. But in. a sense, Blake v
Li cui tenced to life. The case was a
LL. — —— — treatment regular Flurida foll
With a minor. But nothing a
y nd the ples deal he mana
Paraordinary.
Epstein had bought hiwse
| 8ssemhbled. His connections
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ARTMENT |
CHAPTER 49
[Hprraigrii] Jeffrey Epstein: September 2007
I | n the winter of 2013, Scott Blake, a forty-seven-year-old inid-
yey: J school principal from Palm Beach Gardens, Florida, would
ay arg sens be sentenced to the minimum mandatory sentence—ten
J years in prison, with ten years of probation on top—for plead.
hoo S (late, ing guilty 10 one charge of soliciting sex with a minor,
aan Blake's crime? le sent sexually charged messages tn a Hoyn-
son Beach police officer wha vias pretending to be » feenyear.cld
in boy. But in a sense, Blake was Incky: he conld have been sen-
Spires fenced to life. The case was an interesting example of the kind of
ae treaument regular Florida folks could expect just for soliciting sex
With a minor. Bul nothing about Jeffrey Epstein was regular —
80d the plea deal he managed 10 strike Lu 2007 wes simply
Extraordinary.
Epstein had bought himself une of the best defense teams ever
mbled. His connections and contributions 10 Democratic
1
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Juss Barensan oh
causes had made him u player on that side of the political aisle. He “The parties micipate tha
had a famous Republican, Bill Clinton's nemesis, Ken Stars, werk Part of any public record 1
ing the other side. And just to make sure they'd cavered the bases, United States receives a Freed
Epstein’ tern also recruited Roy Black—the lawyer whoid any compulsory process comm
cleared William Kennedy Smith of rape. and kept Rush Limbaugh met, it will provide notice:
out of prison for his alleged illegal drug use— snd Jay Lefkowitz disclosure.”
a defense attorney whod worked with US atiorney R. Slexander Remarkably, despite assur
Acosta at Ken Starr's law firm. | fed, mone of the victims was.
And 50 in September, the US attorney's office reached 1 for- this NPA.
mal agreement with Fpsteins team; the United Stares would 1F Epstein did not sign dhe
defer federal prosecution in favor of prosecution hy the state af count indictuient and a decade
Florida team of lawyers had goticn him
A non-prosecution agreement (NPA) was drafted; among ted ul the teeth i South Florid,
ther things, i assured Epstein tha be would not be prosecuted Forall his protestations of ir
in the Southern District of Florida for felony offenses involving in the world ta agree to an NPA.
the sexual abuse of underage girls. (By that pon, thin known On Septewher 24, 2007, Fps
victims had heeu discovered.) Instead it allowed him wo plead 3 Once again, nome of the +
guilty 1a state felony alfenses for solicitation of prostitution aud notified.
the procurement uf minors for prostitution, The NPA established 3
a proceduce that allowed Epstein's victiras to sue him in civil
court and took the extraordinary step of ensuring that “any.
potential co-conspiraars” of Epsteints would be immune from
prosecution
“In consideration of Epstein's agreement to plead guilty and
to provide compensation in the munner described above, if
Epstein successfully fulfills all of the terms and conditions of
this agreement, the Unlied States also agrees that i will uot
institute any crimingl charges against any potential co-conspirds
tors of Fstein,” the agreement stated, mentioning Sarsh Kellot
and Nadia Marcinkova by name.
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Tosa Tuuray Riou
nar side of the political aisle. He “The parties anticipate that this agreement will not be made
tons nemesis, Ken Starr, work- part of any public record,” the document concludes. “If the
ke sure they'd covered the bases, United States receives a Freedom of Information Act request or
Roy Plack—the lawyer whod any compulsary process commanding the disclosure of the agree-
5 rape and kept Rush Limbaugh ment, it will provide notice 10 Epstein before making thu
I drug use —and Jay | efkowitz, disclosure.” 2
with US attorney R. Alexander Remarkably, despite assurances theyd received from the
feds, none of the victims was consulied prior to the drafting of
5 atorney's office reached a for this NEA.
team: the United States would. If Epstein did not sign the grecment, he faced a fty-seven-
af prosecution by the state of (count indicament and a decade o more in prison. But Epscen's
teom of lawyers had gouen him a deal so sweet i could have rot
ne (NPA) was drafted; among ted all the teeth in South Florida.
than he vould not be prosecuted For all his protestations of innocence, there was every reason
da for felony offenses involving in the world to agree to an NPA Tr
ds. (By that point, thirty kuown On September 24, 2007, Epstein did sign it.
Instead in allowed him to plead Once again, none of the. victins had beea consulted or
Jr salicitation of prostitution and roified.
srostitation. The NPA established
ins victims to sue him in civil
rary step of ensuring that “any
ipsteints would be immune from
is agreement 10 plead guilty utd
the manner described above, if
1 of the terms and conditions. of
ates also agrees that il wall not
against any potential co-canspiis
© stared, mentioning Sarah Kell
«
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moment that Epsicin had
finally did June 30, 2008.
In the interim, accord;
were only told, “This case i
A lwsuit chat Bradley
| Fort Luaderdale, filed in J
Rights dct, or CVRA (ah
CHAPTER 50 winch states that “victims
ing the right 10 be heard i
be precluded from cont pr
farly!
According to him, peost
| woueary recovery of any
«x result of the non-prasecution agreement, a fifty-three. SIE alsa knew thacif the gover:
count indictment that federal prosecutaes had prepared entered ino 2 contract tha
aginst Jeffrey Epstein—one that claimed hed ubused rights af Epstetns victims,
dozens of underage women— never was fled. ave been impraper in ane
But as far a laveyers represeuting Epstein's viclius were co0- remedy would hve: been te
cerned, the fact that those victims were not consulted about the while itis difficult to now
non proscetion agreernent was inexcusable. The “goverment pom Soudepinl %
deliberately kept orinue victicas ‘a the dark’ so that it could enter By wn gun
into a plea arrangement designed to prevent the. victims from static of imitations on tha
raising any objections.” they would sigue, in documents fled ont : on Cr Susy
February 10, 2016. For nine months, the laveyess claimed, fram kg ing bo
the time thar the NPA was signed, on September 24, 2001 Ee nents Chit]
Krischers office, “doing Fpsteins bidding, [hud] concealed he 0 massive and so comple
PAS existence from victims” and continued to do so until the everyone involved into the
i
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Envy Rica
moment that Epstein had 10 plead guilty in court, which he
finally did June 30, 2008,
In the interim, according to their lavyers, Epstein victims
were only told, “This case is currently under investigation.
A lavwsoit that Bradley Edwards, a victims’ rights attorney in
Fort Laudentale, fled in July of 2008 cited the Crime Victims
Rights Act, or CVRA (tide 18, section 3771, of the US Code),
CHAPTER 50 which sates chat "victims of federal crimes have rigs, Includ-
ing the right to be heard in court, and most particuiarly, not to
be proctuded from court proceedings, and the right tobe treated
fairly:
J According to him. prosecutors had violated the CVRA rights
y of the victims, Edwards, who said he was warking pro bona,
cw that this suit against the government would not allow for
monetary recovery of any sort (including lawyers’ fees). But he
secution agreement, a fity-three- so knew that if the government, urged by Jeffrey Epstein, had
deral prosecutors had prepared entered i110 a contract that improperly or legally violated the
one Wat clatmed hed abused rights of Epstein victims, then that contract, by natuee, would
ever was filed have been improper in and of itself—in which casc, the only
ating Epsteiis victims were cot temedy would ave heen 10 have the contract invalidated. And
{ms wert not consulted about the while it is difficult © kaow what, exacdly, would happen if the
15 inexcusable. The “government contract is overturned, ane possibility is that the government
“iu the dark’ so thut it could enter could prosecute Epstein for crimes against his victims, if the
ned 10 preven. the victims roa statute of imizations on those crimes has not expired
ould args, ia documents fled on At the time of chis writing, that case Js winding 1ts way
oaths, he lawyers claimed, from through the courts. It has all the eaemarks of a modern-day
signed, on September 24, 2007) Bleak House — the Charles Dickens novel about » legal case that
fis bidding, [lad] concealed the 850 messive and so complex that it drags on forever nd drags
and continued to da so untill ryone involved into the mire.
- I
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Jasses Parson .
#2 underage girls. (Upon inf
who brought Jane Doe to
In the meantime, Epstein began to settle: out of court with his. of Epstein, and will ther
victims. plaint) Under Epsicin's p
In February of 2008, Virginia woman who eat by the lias ostensibly to give a weal
Jane Doe #2 brought a ffty-million-dollar lavisuit agains! Epstein. compensation in his Pal
At the time of their meeting, she. claimed, Epstein was fifty-two would be contacted when
years old. She was a teenager, aud ber complaint, which was | Palm Beach residence or
made public, gave the rest of the world an early glimpse of what Epstein or someone on hi
Epstein, and the inner workings of bis secret world, looked like to bring one or mure unc
from a victior's perspective. 1 recruiter, upon informatic
“Epstein 34a Anancier and movie manager with a sectet cl economically disadvan
cntele limited exclusively to billionaires.” the lawsuit alleged. Pam Beach County who
“lle is himself s man of tremendous wealth, power and inffu. being offered — generally
ence. He maintains his principal home in Nev York and also session and who were p
owns residences in New Mexico, St. Thomas and Palm Beach, tw auiborities or have cre
FIL The allegations herein concern Epstein's conduct while at his i conduct were made. Thi
lavish estate in Palin Beach” The complaint continued: Epstein’ plan.
Epstein's plan reflected
Upon information and belief, Epstein has a sexual preference Upon arrival at Epstein’
and absessiom for underage minor girs. Fie engaged in aplan would be iuroducedto Sar
and scheme in which he gained access to primarily economé- gathered the girls persona
cally disadvantaged minor ginls bn his home, sexually and teiephome umber, Ms
assaulted these girls, and then gave them money. In or about up a flight of stairs fo a bx
2004-2005, June Doe, then approximately 16 years old, fel able in addition io other
Into Epstein's trap and hecame ame of is victims. gruphs of nude women lin
Upon information and belie, Jeffrey Fpstein carried oul bedroum. The girt would d
his schemes and assaulted girls in Florida, New York, and on with Epstein, who would b
is private Island, known as Licle St. James, in St. Thomas. then remove his wed and
Epstein’ scheme involved the use of young girls o reer and direct the girl to remon
0
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i Fuusey Rion
underage girls. (Upon information and belicf, the young girt
‘ who brought Jane Doe to Epstein was herself a minor victim
to settle out of court with his of Epstetn, and will therefore not be named in this Com-
plait) Under Epstein's plan, wderage girls were recrudted
woman who went by the alias anstensibly to give a wealthy man @ massage jor menetary
dollar lawsuit against Epstein | compensasion in bis Palm Beach mansion. The recruiter
i [ would be contacted when Epstein was planning to be at his
1nd her complaint, which was Pulm Beach residence un soon after he had arrived there.
world an early glimpse of what Epstein or someone on his behalf would direct the recrater
of his secret world, looked like to bring one or more underage girls tw thr. vesidence. The
recruiter, upon information and belief, generally sought out
any manager with a secret cli- 3 economically disadvantaged underaged girls from western
lionatres the lawsuit alleged Palm Beach County who would be enticed by the money
adous wealth, power and influ- being offered—generally $200 to $300 per “massage”
al home in New York and also session—and who were percetved as less likely to complain
6, St. Thomas and Palm Beach, to authorities or have credibility if allegattons of iniproper
om Epsteinis conduct while at bis condict were made. This was an important element of
complaiat continued: Fystin' plan
Epstein’ plan reflected a particular pattern and methad
Fptein has asexual preference Upon arrival at Epsteins mansion, the underaged viii
nor girs, He engaged in apl would be introduced to Sarah Kellen, Fpstein's assistant, who
d access to primarily economi- ‘gathered the girl persemal information, including her name
ee oo har, sell? and telephone mumber: Ms. Kellen vould then bring the gil
ac up a fight of stairs 10 a bedroom: that camsained a massage
or ly 16 years old, Jel table in addition 10 other furnishings. There were photo-
Dp 8raphs of nude women Timing the stairway hall and in the
oe Sp carried out bedroom. ‘The girl would then find herself alone in the room
o_o New York, andor With Epstein, who would be wearing only a towel. He would
Little $1. James, In St. Thomas then remave his towel and lie naked on the massage table,
Fieuarof young gil ocr and direct dhe girl to remove her clothes. Epstein wonid hen
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perform one or more lewd, lascivious and. seal acs,
cluding masturbation and touchizg the girls vagina
Consistent ih the foregoing pla and scheme, jane Doe
was recruited to give Epstein a massage for monetary com
pensation. Jane was brovght io Fstein's mansion in Pulm
Beach. Once at the mansion, Jane was introduced to Sarah
Kellen, who led her up the light of stat to the room with the
massage table. In this room, Epstein 11d Jane to ke of her
clothes snd give him a massage. Jane kept her panties and
fra on and. complied with Epstein, instructions. Eystein
wore only a towel around his waste [scl After a short period
of tin, Epstein semaved the towel and rolled over exposing
is pent. Fystein began tw masturbate and. he. sexually Jeffrey Epstein: June 30, 2
assaulted Jane.
fer Epstein had compli the assault, Jane was then
able 0 get dressed, leave the room and so back down. the AE
airs. Jane was paid $200 by Esicin. The young girl who Qs Pagans investig:
recruited Jane was paid $100 by Epsein for bringing fan ta age girls, Jeffrey Eps
him Coumy jai
is a result f tis encoun wih Epsicin, Jone expert re dyn ale, Bg
enced confusion, shame, hilton am abarrassnent, and Ne York Tunes At the rime,
fas suffered severe psychological and cenofinal infurtes. i the Tine having long siuce blu
Sau Jos,
“respect the legal process
by this.” Can
bt spent years fighung 1
then the federal government, in
Woul ave seen him emerge |
battle Lud aged him. Mellowed t
all bur housed 10 2 journalist fr
1 ;
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lascivious and sexual acts,
«ching the girl's vagina.
og plan and scheme, Jane Dox
© massage fur monetary com-
0 Epstein's mansion in Pal
lane was introduced to Sarah
tof stairs to the room with the SE
pstein told Jane 1 take off her CHAPTER 51
ge. Jane kept her panties and
teins instructions. Epstefn
waste fsicl. After a short period
wel and rolled over exposing.
masturbate. and he sexually Jeffrey Epstein: June 30, 2008
ted the assault, jane was then
room and go back down the n June 30, 2008, more than three years after the start of
7 Epsiein. The young girl who eee Pagans investigation inlo his dealings with under-
by Epstein or bringing Jane: © age girs, Jellrey Epstein reported to the Palm Teach
County jail.
er with Epsce, Jane expert- few days earlier, Dpsteis hu taken a phone call from the
ation and embarrassment, and New York Times. At the time, hed Leen working, or vacationing
land emotional injaris. (the line having long since blurred), at bis compound on Litde
Sain Jeffs.
“lL xespect the legal process.” Epstein had said. *1 will abide
by this
Hed spent years fighting, the charges— fighting rhe state,
hen the fedcral government, in an effort to avoid a sentence chat
tld Luve seen him enserge from prison an old man. But the
tle bad aged him. Mellowed him, even. Months eaclier, he had
but hoasted to a journalist from New York magazine.
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Janias Barronson
‘Its the Icarus story, someone who flies 100 close to the sun.”
hat journalist said in reference to “the agony” of Epstein’ legal
“ordeal”
“Did Icarus like massuges?” Epstein responded.
But after Fpscein's indictment, there were no more: boasts.
For the most pare, he kept silent in public and retreated into his
Eyes Wide Shut world. And when the New York Times did manage
to get him wo speak on the record, he spoke like chastened man
Siteing on his patio dow on Little St. James, Epstein likeaed
‘Tuimself to the shipwrecked Gulliver after he washes ashore on |
Lilliput.
“Gulliver's playfulness had unintended consequences,” he said.
On tho eve of his departure, he had a few more things 10 say:
That is what happens with wealth, There are unexpected
hurdens as well as benefits.
“Your body can be confined, but not your mind...”
“1 am not blameless..."
Outside of the agreement hed signed with the prosecutors 3
office, this was the closest Epstein had come 10 admitting his
guilt, But strange details were. sprinkled throughout the story.
§le had formed a “board of dizectors. of friends” who would coun
cel ira on his behavior. Aud, seemingly for the first time, hed
bired a full-time masseur —s man.
Readers of the New York Times might have wondered: Epstein
was going 10 jail for eighteen months. What need would be have
for a full-time masseur? 1
The storys last line hinted at the answer: in preparation. for
incarceration, Epstein had sit up an e-mail alert.
From then on, bis auonnatic reply would read “On vecatiot®
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renso
who lies to close to the sun,”
0 “the egony” of Epstein’ legal
pstein responded.
1, there were na more haasts
in public and retreated iato his P
he New York Times did manage A RT V
he spoke like a chastened man.
{le St. James, Epstein likened 1 p
liver after he washes ashore on ncarceration
intended consequences” he said
+e had a few mare: things 0 say:
wealth. Then: are unexpected 8
butnot your mind..."
+d signed with the prosecutors
tein had come to admitting bis
sprinkled throughout the soy
ars of friends” who would coun
cemingly for the first time, hell
an
= might have wondered: Eaten
nhs, What need would he haves
2 the answer: in preparation
pan cual alert
reply would read "On vacation
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CHAPTER 52
Jeffrey Epstein: June 30, 2008
he Palm Beach County Main Detention Center is on the
T= side of Lake Worth Lagoon, which separates West
Palm Beach frown the island of Palm Beach. Epsteins
ume on FI Brille Way is five miles to the east Mary's high
school is several miles (0 the west.
1ts fitting, somehow, that this jail — whic is the juil Epstein
‘ends up in, after turing himself in to the local sheriff—lies in
TT —
The detention center's inmales, their families, and their law.
call it the Gun Club, a reference not only 1a the juils uddress,
Gun Club Road, but also to its population of husders, bur
. drug dealers, rapists, and murderers. There's the occa
ial hooker as well. And, from time to time, Haitian refugees
lodged ihere.
(There are threr thousand inmates in all.
™
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Juices Parrsnson
Some wait a year before waking their way ta the courthouse,
their date with the public defender, and an appearance before
the judge. Somme get our nch sooner, if only they can make bail.
But there's no bail without money —or at least collateral —and,
of course, being without moncy is often what lands people n jail
in the first place.
Jeffrey Epstein could have posted bail for every single inmate
in the Gun Club. 3
‘But thars just one of the ways in which Epstein is alike bis A
{ellow inmates, He's on admitted pedophile now. Even bunous onc.
And, famously, pedophiles tend to fare poorly in jal
Luckily for Epstein, Ric Bradshaw. the sheriff in charge of
local jails, transfers Epstein to the infirmary, where he sperids si 3
cvucly on nigh before being transferred seven ies up the i ert Ric Bradshaw: fun
road to a much smaller, ssfer location: chr: Palm Beach County
Contra Detention Center or, ss its knanwa, the Stockade. ; SE sad Yon Bra
“Its not somewhere wed put a serial killer,” Ric Bradshaw says. O Killed him." a
Most of the residents here are addicts who take putt in drug, Sherill Bradshaw
education prograus, prostitutes, petty criminals, and drunks. Western. Tmposingly tail, iv
Its a far safer place for Epstein 1o be, and, unlike other inmates mustache, and slow, souther
(except, of course, those being held in solitary), hel end up with Bod 1s ae oe a
his own cel, even his own wing, which be has 10 himself Bartoli the streets of Tor ss
Eptcints lloeed pay for a securcy and, who sits outside he Bis bec. hres oe orn
cell and keeps watch. And he's allowed any pumiber of isiors: | beer: spent as the head of wi
For u convicted felon, it's an extraordinary benefits packugs: talk 10 the media, aud day, as
But according to Sheri Bradshavy, who also oversees the stodke. Ehe's clearly uncomfortable, id
ade, Epstein is incredulous over the weatment he Is Teceiving. But here in his Ws
"elle was astonished that he had 10 go to prison at all” Bi Remick, Sadstom onc aer:
shaw vermembers. EE tre rss
Let just say he dida't think hie belanged there.” 7 "When be arrived here, he
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(img their way to the cousthonise,
nde, snd an appearance hefore
somes, if only they can make bail
Ley—or at least collateral —and,
+1 often what lands people in juil
osted bail for every sige inmate
~ CHAPTER 53
ups in which Epstein is ualike is
pedophile now. Fen a famous one.
tend to fare poorly in jail
iradshaw, the sherill in charge of
o the infirmary, where he spends Sheriff Ric By
radshaw:
1 nansfered seven miles up the June 2015
Tocation: the Palm Beach County
1, as its known, the Stockade. po
Job says Ric bradshaw, “was
se aserial Killer? Ric Bradshass s2y5. eta LE i
ave addicts who take part in drag tele
herl(f Bradshaw could hav
nes, iminals, and drunks: Vester ave stepped off the set of
. ety cxmiasls, nd droskg i —— i
in tobe, and, unlike ober mite Br vis See ath re oe
gheld tm solitary), hell edna oldschool law officer —the kind you once w ee He
i 4 ae nh | patrolling the streets of Tombstone, Deadwood, or Dodge p "
sgn die bec vm fo yon ys, even of which av
‘s alowed amy mumber of visit spent the head ofthe couny' jis, As a rue, he Ss
an extraordinary benefits pack BS fe oe. an to, 1 bo ln ont rt ig
adh who ls oversees the i 5 clearly wicomfortabl, dey, and es rey Epstein,
rth treatment he is reco ing: Bu bere i hits opal office
; & a bere in his wood-paneled offic on the frst lo
be had to go to privow cal’ Be one i fot or of the
“We have a th
housand sexual pred
hink he belonged there” : ors in the county? he
“When be: arrived here, he was one of them, tle definitely
0 .
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Janie Partenson a
it the category we have 10 ensure the general population is not met a suave short haired ge:
gong to take their anges out on Feeuhi aceon
Although he understands that Epstein is a sex offender That would be Jean-Luc E
and has a sense of the scape of his alleged crimes, Bradshaw's For the duration of Jeffze
alco aware thal the actual conviction was for a “low-level felony.” the Stockade, Bramels taken
Ac the request of Fpstein's attorneys. -a request that is c= Brillo Way, 3
firmed by a court order— Epstein is quickly granted “work
release”
What it means in practice is that six duys a week, for up to
Sixteen —sixteen! — hours each day, Fpsiein is allowed to leave
the Stockade 10 be driven by a designated driver in a car ear ]
marked especially for him to any one of three places: his lawyer 8
Jack Goldberger's office in dowatown West Palm Beach, the
Palm Beach office of a science foundation that he's established, x
and his house on El Brilla Way.
Despite the ankle bracelet he wears, it could be argued that
as u fabulously rich prisoner with two of his own jets parked
nearby, at the Palin Beach International Airport, Epstein might
have posed u flight risk.
‘Instead, every day of the week save one, he's allowed (0 goto J
is lawyer's, Wo go to his office, or simply to go home: 3
Did the deputy in charge of Epstein go to the house on H ]
Brillo Way?
Ric Bradshaw considers the question
“Yes, he says, “he did”
Did the deputy go inside the house? 1
“Yes, he did
1 so, the deputy right have encountered Nadia Marcinkovdy
who was staying on El Briflo Way at the time. He may alse 1a
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Ups Fw Ric
ure the general population is Tot met & suave short
uave short-haired gentlemen who
- tn gentlem ho spoke with a distinct
th Epsiein fs a sex offender That would be Jean-Luc Brunel.
of Lis alleged extmes, Bradshave's For the dutul 4
d i : ion of Jeffrey Epsicinis stay —ar .
ction was for a “low-level felony’ bth Stockade, Brunel taken, dn oy iy —or half stay-—in
worneys—a request that is con- Brill Way. een te iotspon
petein is quickly granced “wark
1s thac six days a week, for wp to
ch day, Epstein is allowed to leave. 8
a designated driver in a cas ears
any one of thre places: his lawyer
lowntowa West Palm Beach, the
foundation that he's established,
1 he wears, it could be argued that S
with two of his own jets parked
ccnational Airport, Epstein wight
week save one, hes allowed to £010
e, or sitaply 10 go howe.
¢ of Epstein go to the house 08
he question.
the house?
ave encountered Nadia Marci
> Way a the time. He: may also
oe ns
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Ki
fraudster named Arnold Pr
had been commuted hy Bil
left offic.
Sheriff Bradshaw wants
conjugal.
But even US auorney car
CHAPTER 54 agreement with the govern
ment was highly irregular
“Epstein appeacs to hve
while in jail," Acosta would
eral public. “Although the te
Jeffrey Epstein: june 30, 2008-July 21, 2009 ex oa
while in state custody nndermy
i Aud, of course, Epsieins
Am to Sheriff Ric Bradshaw, the treatment Jelfrey. a] by taxpayers.
Epstein received in the Stockade was not preferential By
some measures, he Ist wrong
1 2010, millionaire polo mogul John Goodman killed &
young, man while driving drunk. He was convicted but wis
owed to spend to years under house arrest while his appeal
was being tried.
Like Epsiein, Goodman was allowed visitors, Bue Goodmans
sisitor ist was nothing fike Jeffrey Epstein.
‘Nadia Marcinkova s said to have visited Epstein in jail morc
than seventy times.
Epsteins assistant Sarah Kellen also visited Epstein 13 the
Stockade.
‘A Russian mixed martial artist named 1gor “Houdia” 7
view was another visitor, as was a dishurted lawyer and fois
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Carn Run
fraudster named Arnold Prosper’, whose own prison sentence
had been commuted hy Bill Clition on the day before Clinton
eft office.
Sheriff Bradshaw wants wo be clear: none of these visits was
conjugal.
Buteven US attorney Acasta, who negotiated Epstein’ nmusual
r— with the government, would say tha Lpstei's arrunge-
‘R54 agreement wi
CHAPTER | ment was highly irregular,
“Epstein appears 1 have received highly unusual treatment
wehile in jail.” Acosta would say in a letter addressed to the gen-
eral public. “Although the terms of confinement in a saae prison
sre matter appropriately left to the state of Florida and not fed-
1008-July 21, 2009 eral authorities, without doubi, the treatment that he received
h while in state custody undermined the purpose of a juil sentence
And, of course, Epsteins stay at the Stockade was subsidized
¢ Bradshaw, the treatment Jeffrey. by taxpayers.
+ Stockade was not preferential. By
‘wrong,
© mogul John Goodmun killed a3
trunk, He was convicted but was
ander house arrest while his agpe
vas allowed visitors. But Good
effey Epstein.
110 have visited Epstein in jail me
1 Kellen also visited Epstein i
lL astist named Igor *Houdiol™
was a disbarred lawyer and fi
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5B
school females 10 provic
massages. Palice sought
resuled in a term of im
reports, however, in 2001
| 0 concerns regrding th
i © charge Epstein only.
assault with no intent 1c
RSS on
CHAPTE would have resulied fn 1
register as a sexual affer
3 underage victims.
Local police were di
A ney’s conclusions, and re.
R. Alexander Acosta’s letier to the general public, q Federal authorities recei
/ lor § engaged im additional ve
|
March 20, 201 the quality of the evidenci
at trial. With a federal c:
“To whom it may concert. considerations. First, a
y requires tha the crime be
Lserved as U1. §. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida an interstate nexus, Secor
om 200% thzongh 2009, er the past weeks, hav: red charged by the state, the fe
ey ate ae wwe oh ext, 10 backstop stale &
me appears disci. | thaught it ppropeite to provide is no miscarriage of justice
some background, with Lwo caveats: §) under Justice Depart erally that which has alre
= cuss privileged internal com= level
ment guidlines, 1 cannot discuss privileged in
numications amos departnent attorneys and (i) 1 no longed Alter considering the y
have access o the original documents, and as the mater s additions! considerations,
vay 4 eae the prison af memory edd the state charge was insu
oe I mater was origmally presented 10 the the prosccuars and age
palm Beach County State Attorney. Palm Beach Police Mr. Epsteinis aniorney, Roy
Aleged that Fpstem unlawfully hired underage bigh= best Known for bis suc
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Fire Raw
schol females 0 provide him sexually lew and erotic
wassages. Police sought felony charges that would have
resulted un 4 term of imprisonment, According in press
repores, however, in 2006 the State Attorney, in pact due
tw concerns regarding the: quality of the evidence, agreed
to charge Epstein only with one eonnt of aggravated
Y assault with 10 intent to commit a felony. That charge
CHAPTER 55 would have resulted to no jail time, no requirement to
register as a sexual offender and no restitution for the
3 underage victims
3 Local police were dissatisfied with the State Atcor-
3 ney's conclusions, and requested a federal investigation.
er to the general public, i Federal authorities received the State's evidence and
engaged in additional investigation. Prosecutors weighed
the quality of the evidence and the likelihood for success
at trial. With a federal case, there were two additional
considerations. First, a federal criminal prosecution
requires that the erie be more than local; it must have
the Southern District of Florida an fulecstate nexis, Second, as the matter was initially
Over the pust weeks, T have read charged by the state, the federal responsibility is, 10 some
+ Epstein. Some appears tue, extent. to backstop state authorities to ensure that there
havght it appropriate t provide is ao miscarriage of justice, and not to also prosecute fed
caveats: © vader Juste Dept exslly that which has already been charged at the sia
discuss privileged internal com vel.
mentarorneys aud 6) InoTongee After considering the quality of the evidence and the
nme, aod a the mane additional considerations, prosecutars concluded that
precision of memory is reduczdh the state charge was insuliicient. In early sue 2007,
wn originally presented ta thel the prosecutors and agents i this case met with
Le Attorney. Pal Beach fol Mr. Epsiein’s auorney, Roy Black. Me. Black is perhaps
Oawlully hired underige Hi best know for his successful defense of William
- wr
HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_010547
Jans Parreason Eu
Kenedy Smith. ‘The prosecuians presenied Epsiein a well-known legal expert
choice: plead 10 mare serious state felony charges (that Pa
would result in 2 years imprisonment, registration is good man to serve time
sexual offender, and restitution for the victiuas) or else hou if we continued 1c
prepa fora federal felony trial office systematically cow
What followed was u year-long assault on the prose ment, and when we di
cation and the prosecutors. L use the word assault laten- appealed to Washingion
tionally, us the defense in this case was more aggressive 7 The defense strategy
han any which 1, or the prosecutors in my office, bad Defense counsel investiga
previously encountered. Mr. Epstein hired an sey of his fun, Joukigfin
egal superstars: Harvard Professor Alan Dershowitz, for- provide a basis for disqua
mer Judge and thet Pepperdine Laxe Dean Kenneth St, ecutor is an effective 4h
former Deputy Assistant 10 the President and then Kirk 8 eliminating the individua
{and & Ellis Partner ay Lefkowitz, and several athers, and thus most qualified to
meluding prosecutors who had formecly worked in the 8 tihood for success, Delens.
115. Attorney's Office and in the Child Exploitation and least two prosecutors. |
Obscenity Section of the Justice Department. Delense rejected, these arzuments,
attomeys next requested u meting with me to challenge Despite the army of aut
he prosecution aud the terms previously presenied by the terms first presented
the prosecutors in their meeting with Mz. Black. The meeting On June 30, 2008
prosecution team and | wet with defense counsel in Fall appeal 10 Washingion DC
2007, and | reaffirmed the office's positian: twa years, guilty in state court, He wi
registration and restitution, or trial. oument, register us a sexu
Over the next several months, the defease team pre- restitution to the victims,
sented argument after argument claiming that felony Some may feel that the |
criminal proceedings against Fpstein were unsupported tougher. Tyidence that bas
ty the evidence and lacked a basis in Jaw, and that the encourage that view. Mony
offices insistence on jail-time vias motivated by a zeal 12 ou, ling detailed stacemen
aveccharge a man merely berause he 1s wealthy. They ages. Physical evidence ha
bolstered their arguments with legal opinions froct these additional statements
28 2
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sressson Euwtwy Rica
ecutors presented Epstein a wellknown legal experts. One member of the defense
us state felony charges (that team warned me thai rhe offices excess zeal in forcing a
prisonment, registration us a good aman 10 serve time in jail might be the subject of a
ation for the victims) vr else book if we continmied to proceed with the matter, My
ar office systematically considered and rejected each argu-
carlong assault on the prose- ment, and when we did, my offices decisions were
1 se the word assault inten- appealed to Washington. As to the warning, T ignored it
{his case as more aggeessive The defense strategy was tot limited to legal issues.
prosecutors in my office, had. Defense counsel investigated individual prosecutors and
1. Epstein hired an army of their families, looking for persona! peccadilloes that may
‘rofessor Alan Dershowitz, for- : provide a basis for disqualification. Disqualifying a pros-
dine 1a Dean Kenneth Start, ecutor is an effective (though rarely used) strategy, as
+ the President snd then Kirk: eliminacing the individuals most familiar with the facts
fkowitz, and several others, snd thus most qualified (0 tale a case 1 rial harms like-
o bad formerly worked in the lihood for success. Defense counsel tied to disqualify ac
in the Child Exploitation and least ro prosecutors. | carefully reviewed, and then
Justice Department. Defense rejected, these arguments
mecttag with me © challenge Despice the army of attorneys, the office held frm to
terms previously presented by the terms first presented to Mr. Black in the ariginal
meeting with Me. Black. The meeting, On June 30, 2008, after yer another last inure
(et with defense counsel in Fall appeal to Washington D.C. was rejected, Fpseein pled
he office's position: to years guilty in state court. He was 10 serve 18 months impris-
I onment, register as a sexual offender for life, and provide:
‘months, the defense feaun pro restinution 10 the victims
rgument claiming that felosy Souic may feel that the prosecution should have been
inst Epsicin were unsupported tougher. Evidence that has come to light since 2007 may
ed a basis in Taw, and that (he ercoursge that view. Many victims have since spoken
time was motivated by 4 zeal 10 our, filing derailed statements in civil cases secking dam-
ly because he is wealthy. Ther ei. Physical evidence has since hoen discovered. lad
we with legal optaious h these additional statements and evidence been known,
pon 20
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Jamas Parvenson r
the puicome ay have been differeat. But they were net At times, some prosecut
Tenown to us ac the time. trial, and at times fel 1
4 prosecution decision must be bused on admissible right in the first meetin
facts known ut the time. In cases of this type, those are spective of defense tact
unusually difficult because victims are frightened and tiomal vight 10 a defense
often decline to testify or if they do speak, they give con- clght should not be pun
Leadiciory statements. Our judgment in this case, based sels exercise of thelr ry
on the evidence known ai the time, was that it was better Washington D.C. Prosecy
1a have a billionaire serve tire in jail, register as a sex frustration and anger wi
offender, and pay his victims testitucion than risk # trial 1 their judgment
with a reduced likelihood of success. T supported thu After the plea, | reca
judgment then, und based on the sta law 3s i then stood Ome was from the FBI Spi
and the evidence knows at the time, would support that 8 to offer congratulations
judgment again being reguding chs ¢
Fpsicin's treatment, while in siate custody, likewise of the defense, and he cal
may encourage the view that the office should have been holding fir against che |
Loughe. Although thi terms of confinement in a sate 5 itz, Lefkowitz and Starr
prison ate & matter appropriately lef to the Stae of Flor- 3 received calls or commun
da, and nor federal authorities, without doubt, the reat itz, Lefkowitz and Starr. |
ment that he received while in state custody undermined als previously, from my
the purpase of a jai) sentence Kirkland & Ellis in the m
Sows may also believe. that the prosecution should peace. [agreed io talk any
have been tougher in retaliation far the defense’s tactics Fpsteta pled guilty, us 11}
The defense, arguably, often failed to negotiate in good tors battle defense attorne;
faith, They would obtain concessions as part of a negotis= have ted, vet 1 confess tk
tion aud agree to proceed, only to change their winds fully inchs case
and appeal the office's pusition to Washington. The tues “The bottom line i thix
iigatians into the family lives of individual proseculors served time in jail and 5
were, in my opinion, uncalled for, us were the accustious He has been required to pay
of bias and/or misconduct against individual prosecutors restitution clearly cannot ¢
2
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pe — Irv Rs
different. But they were not At times, some prosecutors fe thar we should just go to
terial, and at tes T felt that frustestion myself, Wat was
must be based an admissible | ight in the first meeting, however, remuinrd right irte-
1 cases of this type, those ure spective of defense tactics. Individuals have constin
& victims are frightened and tional right 10 a defense. The uygressive exercise of that
they do speak, they give con right should not be punished, nor should 4 defense coun
Judgment in this case, based sells exercise of their right to appeal a US Attorney to
he time, was that it was better ‘Washington D.C. Prosecutors must be careful not 0 allow
time in jail, register as 4 Sex frustration and anger with defense counsel 10 influence
ms restation than risk atrial 8 their judgment
1 of success. 1 supparted that A After the plea, 1 recall receiving several phone calls,
on the state Jaw as it then stood One was from the FBI Special Agent In Charge. He called
the time, Lwould support fat 10 offer congrarmlations. He had been at many of the
meerings regardig this case, He was aware of the tactics
hile in state custody, likewise of the defense, and he called w praise our prosecutors for
iat the office should have been holding fia aginst the lilkes of Messrs. Black, Dershow
rms of confinement in & state itz, Lefkowitz and Starr. Tt was a proud moment. | also
priately left to the State of Flo received calls or communications from Messrs. Dersliow-
ities, without doub, the treat: J itz, Lefkowitz and Starr. 1 had known all three individ
le in state custody undermined als previously, from my time in law school and at
= Kirkland & Ells in the mid 90. They all sought to make
se that the prosecution should peace. agreed to tall and meet with each of them after
ation for the defenscs tactics, pstein pled guiky, as 1 think it important tha prosecu
fren failed to negosiate in good J tors bactle defense attorneys in a case and then woven. |
concssions as part of a negotis have tried, yet | confess that this has been difficult to do
4, ouly to change their minds, Filly tn this case
ition to Washingion, The inves= “The bottom ine is this: Mr. Jellrey Epsicin, a billiosair,
ives of individual prosecniofs Serv time in jail and is now a registered sexual offender
atled for, as were the accusations Fle has been required to pay bis victims restitution, though
«against individual prosecia jFestitution clearly cannot compensate for the crime. And
By a
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re know sasch more today about his erimes because vie |
tims have come forward 10 speak out. Some may disagree
with prosecutorial judgmeats made in this case, bot
those individuals are not the ones who at the time
reviewed the evidence available for trial and assessed the
likelihood of success,
Respectiully,
R. Alexander Acosta
Former US. Atorney
Souther District of Florida
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rabout his crimes because vic-
speak out. Some may disagree
\eats made in this case, but
the ones who aL the time
{lable for trial and assessed the |
PART VI
Respectfully,
R. Alexander Acosta
farmer US. Anoruey Aftermath
Southern District of Florida
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CHAPTER §6
Jeffrey Epstein: July 2009
effrey Epstein walks oun of the Stackade on July 21, 2009,
having served less than thirteen months of his eighteen month
seutence. One of the concessions his lawyers have gotten
while working out his plea deal guarantees is that che media uot
be alerted to the time and day of his departure.
But from now: on, Epstein, who is fifty-six, will cary the
mack of a level 3 sex offsnder—level 1 being the lowest, and
level 3 indicating the highest possible risk of a future criminal
tof a sexual suture. Wherever he goes, he will be forced to reg-
ister oc such,
Every ninety days, Cpstcin will have to check in with the
horitics. Every year, the New York City Police Department
falc his mug shor. And for a full year, Epstein will be under
St arrest in Palm Beach.
| This last probibicion doesn't stop hi from fyiug, with court
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approval, on his own planes to New York and to Little Saint Jes
where the locals have taken to referring to Epsteinis 727 us the
Lolita Fxpress,
There are other restrictions, of course, that Epstein is sup
posed to abide by. He hus 10 provide the state of Florida with a
list of all the motor vehicles, boats, and airplanes he owns. The
full lst includes two Escalades, six Suburban, two Ford F-150s,
two Harley-Davidsons, a Land Rover, a Hummer H2, 8 thirty
fourfoo: TVC boat, and a thirty-five foot Duiei powerboat
Three of his five planes tum out 10 be registered to a com. J
pany called Air Ghisluise, Inc
As a registered sex offender, Epstein is legally obliged in 8
undergo peyehiutric treatment, This 1s a restriction hel get Alfredo Rodriguez: Aug
around hy having his own psychologist submit a report to law
enforcement officers.
Epstein is also prohibited from accessing pornography on 3 pstetns howseman, &1
ie Intecuiet and using social metworking for sexual purposes. Er SO
For Jeffrey Epstein, there will be no Bangbros, ‘Tinder, oc PI
Swingles com misid, Lupita, who had com
‘There wll be lawsuits up after Epsiein's “massage:
Six weeks before probation cads, he setiles with seven women Jie, had cried as she. describe
who sue him in civi) cours. But Epstein can easlly afford the set Rodriguez was fired by 1
Uement payments. He went be going back to jai, and in regard afer seeing a steunge car —
to further prosecution for any criminal accions, bis troubles are Si rete, foes
behind hire. massenses:
Nat everyone whe's spent time in bis company will be 50 Ou his way out of the he
lucky. of Epstein's pupers, which he
By Chic Reiter's investigator
For years, Rodriguez tries
[Tanager No one wanted 1
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New York and to Little Saint Jeff's,
referring to Epsicin's 727 as the
5, of course, that Epstein is sup-
rovide the state of Florida with a
oats, and airplanes he owns. The
six Suburbans, to Ford F-L50s, oo
i Rover, 2 Hummer H2, a thirty- CHAPTER 57
fvesfoot Donzi powerboat
en out to he registered 10 a come
for, Epstein is legally obliged to
This is # restriction hell get 8 Alfredo Rodriguez: August 2009
sehalopist submit a report 16 law
From accessing, pornography on EF houseman, Alfredo Rodriguez, also ends up with a
etworking for sexual purposes. risen sentence.
will be no Banghros, Tinder, or ] na sworn statement, Rodriguez talks about Epstin's
maid, Lupita, who had complained to him about having to ciean
Up afer Epstein's “massages” Lupita, who was u devout Catho-
ends, he settles with seven womens lic, had cried as she described the stained towel and sex toys,
t Epstein can easily afford the se Rodriguez was fired by Epsicin, he says, when he called 911
e going back to jail, and in rg site seeing 2 suangs car —a "beater" —in Epstein driveway.
criminal actions, his troubles 45 it turn out, th car had belonged 1 one of Epsterns
masseuses,
hme in his company will be On bis way out af the house on El Brill Way, he took some
Epstciuts papers, which he failed to produce when questioned
: Chief Reiter's investigators,
For years, Rudiriguez tried and failed to find work as house
No ene wanted to hire someone whod worked for
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Justus Parresox on
Jefivey Epstein. Finally, desperately, he tried to sell the informa. a
tion hed stole
The. papers named underage girls and the places where BS es on Geto
Fpstein bad taken them, The list included locations in Califor who imsistsh once moe on by
wi, Paris, New Mexico, New York, and Michigan. The papers lawyer told him that an associ
also included the names, addresses, and phone numbers of J What the Liver knew anc
famous individuals — Henry Kissinger, Mick Jagger, Dustin Hof: 8 the associate in question was
‘man, Ralph Tiennes, David Koch, Ted Kennedy, Donald Trump, b the FBL A few days later, on 1
Bill Richardson, Bill Clinton, and former lsraclt prime minister J guez and sets wp a meeting, wl
Ehud Barak among then ; using the meeting, Roc
This was intriguing, if not at all damning, Epstein made a | book und several sheets of logs
habit of collecting such information for future use. But informa: ten notes." Special Agent Pryn
tion pertaining to the girls wanld have bolstered the state's case. continues:
against Jeffrey Epstein, and by withholding it fom the Pali
Beach PD and the FBI, Rodriguez had commiteed a crime Rodrigues explained tate
Tn bis defense, Rodriguez would say thi the papers were an his former employer's resid
“insurance policy” Without them, be believed, Epsicin would 200410 2005 and thet the bo
huve made him “disappear” working for his former emg
That now: Rodriguez needed the money. And so a few weeks detail the information within
after Epsteinis release from the Stockade, he approached a lawyer | antinformation othe LCE. |
who was representing, some of Epsteins masseuses. He had the he ad previously led ta he.
holy grail," he insisted. A “golden nugget” The: names of hun: about the $50,000, took pusse
dreds of girls, he said, who had been abused by Epstein. ening
The lawyer told Rodriguez in no uncercain terms that he was LEER,
obliged to turn whatever he had over to the authorities, BY Proceedings, Tile 16, U.S. Co
demanding money for the information, Rodriguez was cominits tioned, Afier Mivunda warning
ting another crite. Radrignez waived his rights a
According to a sworn statement by Christina Pryor, a special those rights, Rodrigue admit
agent with the TBI, Rodriguez "persisted that hi: would only and baok in his possession an
aver the infociuation in his possession in xchange for $50,000 A —
21s n
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nrrcuson Fru Rica
ately, he tried ta sell the informa I
rage girls and the places where Two months lates, on October 28, the lawyer called Kodriguez,
list included locations tn Califor- who insisted once more on being paid for he information. The
York, wad Michigan. The papers | lassyer old him that an associate would be fn touch.
dresses, and phone numbers of What the lawyer knew and Rodrigues did not kno was that
‘issiuger, Mick Jagger, Dustin Hoff the associate in question was an undercover employee (UCE) of
ach, Ted Kennedy, Donald Trump, the FBI. A few days later, on November 2, the UCE calls Rodri-
and former Israeli prime minister sez and sets up a meeting, which takes place the following day:
During the meeting, Rodrigiez produced a stall hound
J at all damuing. Epstein made a ‘book anid several sheets of legal pad paper containing handvril-
‘ation for future use. But informa: ten notes,” Special Agent Pryor would say in her statement. She
ould have bolstered the states case continues:
by withholding it from the Palm
Juez bad committed a crime. Rodriguez explained that he had tahen the bound boak fram
ould say that the papers were an. his former employer's residence while employed here in
them, be helieved, Epstein sould 2004 (0.2005 and that the book had been created by persons
working for his former employer. Rodriguez discussed in
ed the money. And 50 a few weeks detail the infor ration within the book and identified import-
1e Stockade, he approached « Lawyss ant information to the UCE. In addition, Rodriguez admitted
of Fmieis masscuses. He had he had previously ied to the FBI Rodrigues uskud the UCE
golden mugger” The nawes off abou the $30,000, took pussession. of the money, and began
ad been abused by Epstein counting it
in no acertain terms thal he Rodrigue was then detained for Obstruction of Official
le had over to the authorities Proceedings, Title 18, US. Code, Section 151200), and ques-
Wormation, Rodriguez was cou lined. After Misunda warnings were administered by agers,
3 Rodrigue waived his rights and signed a written wabser of
ement by Christina Pryor, 4 those rights. Rodriguez admitted that he had the docments
12 “persisted that he would aah @id book in his possession and had never turned them over
ceseashonin exchange fof 5 local law enforcement or the FBI. In addition, Rodriguez
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Juices Bar zRson
advised he ad witnessed nude girls whom he believed were
underage af the pool area of his former empluyer’s ome,
Jr chat his Jormer employer was engaging in sexual con-
Lact with underage girls, and had viewed pornographic
{mages of underage wirls on computers in kis employer's
home. Rodriguez was then released from custody for further
investigation
The items that Rodrigues had attempted to sel to the
CE for $30,000.00 were resie wed by an agent familiar with 1
the underlying criminal investigation. As Rodriguez had
described, the Items contained information material to the
underlying imestigation thal would have been extremely use- 3
Jul in investigating) and prosecuting (he case, including the Prince Andrew: 2011
‘names and contact information of material wimessrs and
additional victims. Had those. items been produced in
respunse o the Uiquiries of the state law enforcement officers stne AIF di fits
on the FDI Special Agents, their contents would hav been Pre
preseated tothe federal grand jury. Thr melee
Ghislaine Maxwell introduced
Following his release, Alfredo Rodriguez was arrested ugsin: time in the 1990s. In 2000, Eps
He appeared in court on Jane 18, 2010. facing charges of cor Castle 10 celebrace the queens t
cuptly concealing records and documents. Dressed in a Ble flew to Sandringham, the qurer
Jumpsuit and shackles, he apologized for his crimes and asked Betty Piri Ader theca
the court to be merciful The prince had also visited
He received a sentence of cighteen months. Palm Beach as well as in New
It sas the same. punishment that Jeffrey Epstein bad goterd us aden ber ZS lis
for bis crimes. But unlike Epstcin, alfredo Rodrigue served his asked her ta give the prince wi
Gime: iu a federal prison and did not ask for. ar receive, peri back with the details.
sion to go on work release. According to the Guardian,
ied togecher at Windsor Castle,
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Dear ir. Link,
We represeat IN vith rcforcuce to bor claims against Joffrey Epstein
for childhood sexual sbuse which occurred in New York City when she was vars old.
New York recendy passed the Child Vietims Act which creates u 1 year sind for
claims where the statute of limitacions had expirod. ‘Lhercfore, INN vill be able to suc
Mr. Epstein for the sexual abuse which sho experienced while sh vas a minor.
I = hc perect victim
She vias born in MER 2 town on the JN const. hen NN os four vears
old, I descended into civil war, Af the age of six, her entire village was cvacuated. She
fled hr hometown travelling through war zones on fool with her family, in stream of refuges.
Her Family seuled in the outskics of SEL As cefucees, with a0 money. hee family
lived wgether ir: one room, sharing a bathroom with other families. Her pasents evenmally
found low paying, unskilled jobs. Their only clothing was what was provided to them by the
Red Cross.
When she wus ten years old, INN cnt arrived io IER
By the sixth grade, IN was 5°10, beautiful and naturally slim. She desperately
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wanted 10 leave [JI Soe learned about a taker scarch for models and persuaded hor
mathe Lo take her. She was a huge sucsess and begun modeling at age fourteen. Though her
parents disparaged hor for marketing her uppenrance. they allowed her to wrk because she
eamod more thu their combined incoroe:
‘Atage sixtcon, ISS moved to Ne York City to model. She lived in an
apartment for models, with on or two rouramates and no adult on the premises. ler father was
deeply ashamed of her because he disappraved of her profession and her patents distanced
chemscles
I ics voi hectic wilh profissionl weignments. She worked with op tier
clients and for DNA Modeling Agency, a well-knawn gency representing supermodels such as
Linda Evengelista and Natalia Vodianova.
I vss very nisosnt and incaperioncid prior to meting Mr. Bpstein. ALoge
sivtees, I cxpericnocd her first hiss, The director af perfume campaign, Fabian:
Barron, wantsd 8 kiss af the end of the commercial a a ale 1 a peefome 3d. She dreaded her
patents’ reaction fo seeing the cammercial. She was raised in the Orthodox Chistian Church
where abstinence was encouraged.
NY io Joffe pois shen wis sistas yess old. ‘She was intro
through a fellow model n ew yeurs her senior
Mir. Fipstein seemed bigger than life. Lie did not drink or do drugs, which pur her at case.
He was friend with former Presiden Bill Clinton, the President who mae is possible for HEN
I rc cr fil 10 romigeste to America. When she told biz. Epstein how her family
cams to America, Mr. Fpsiein said he would personally thank “Bill” for hee. Mr. Lpstein touted
other impressive connections. He mide it knoe that he had A list celebrities on speed-dial.
She felt very fortunate to bavi mide the connection vith Mr. Fpnigie.
As I: stron zeman from he family increased, Mr. Fpslein's role in hor lle
hevame more and more important. Hs encouraged ber and built ber confidemse. She trusted him
completely.
Mr. Fpiein told [NEE zt ic was on the board of dirctors at Harvard
University. He promised that once she took her S13 and obtained the scores she needed, he
would write letter of recomunendation for her, which he said would carry significant weight
with regard her sdmissian. Her dean was (0 establish hecself as 2 successful model and to
onc day graduate from Harvard. Mr. Tpsiein made her feel that everything she wanted was
possible.
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IN ic vo bin that she hi never even bud a buy rind. Te told hee
everything would [all into place, “just keep doing whl you are doing, work hard und stay
focused™ She told Me. Epstein that she preferred to abstain from sex until she was married.
The first tire IES sod her for masse sas 1 help wich an che in is
shoulder. [IEE ought it was an innocent request. Tle said his masseuse had failed to
eet kink ou of is shoulder. He gnve her a large pusple massager for hee to use to take the knot
«aut of his back. Vir. Epstein told her she wus un excellent masseuse and she was pleased to be
able to ease his pai.
‘When tho massage ended, Mi. Tpstein pulled two buadred dollars from his wallet avd
handed it to her. He vaid, “Twas going to give ic 10 the masseuse anysway. 50 you take cand pay
Sor your ear service ur something.”
Vir. pein began calling hor every dav, no matter where she vas in the world. He told
her be Joved her. Tle hecame a vital part of Hi us her parents remained
distant, He invited ber 1 stay at one of his apariments close to him on the Upper Fust Side. er
ardiuovs work schedule, startiog. with 6:00 2.m. call times and shows running Jae into the night
were exhausting, Fstein’s daily check-up calls and pep talks gave her strength Io survive her
grinding schedule.
‘When in Paris, Mr. Epstein allowed her lo stay ut hix home with her sister and arranged
for u night out at a concert with Naomi Campbell. 1 uppearcd to [thar Mr. Epstein’s
thoughts were focused on her career, future und good fortune.
“The fis! time the purple massage tool found its way betwen her logs, I'd
hin fo stop, but Mr. Tipstein pushed the head of tho massager firmly against her xd forces! her
Togs apart. She felc ashamed and embarrassed. The mssages became a ritual an were always
wecompanied with sexual abuse and a two-hundred dallur payment ul the end.
Mr. Epstein approached her as i he was Jer mentor and teacher, teaching her about
Sexuality, opening her eyes. She experienced immense orgasts, and then shame and far. She
Slt claustrophobia es she stared up into Mr. Epstein’s church-like ceiling of the massage perlor
while he fondled her. She fit she couldn't escape her position, und thal this was the way it had
10 be bevuie this powerful man orchestrated it. Al the end of cach massuge he would muke
‘himael ejaculate by demanding she pay vigorous aitentian tw his nipples with her fingers and he
wauld tell her what a good girl she was, that he loved her and would call her later, which made
everything seem batter. Thon he sould open his wallet filled with hundred dolla bills and give
her a couple, which she acocpted as pockel maney, never thinking twice about it.
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I vt this is what it must fc] like Lo become a woman. She was both
thriiled and ashamed, She followed the path that Mr, Epstein set out for her because be said if
she trusted him and did what he told her to do, everything would go cording to his plan and her
career would soar. Without him the world was a scary and unpredictable place. When she was
‘with him, she felt like everylhing was right because of how much love and care she received
fram him. She started to think und believe Urat they would be together und thal he would marry
her.
Fle used the purple massage vibrulor on her tine and time again. She closed her eyes
focling Jost, overwhelmed and out of contral.
When be stuck his penis in her mouth, she did whar she was told. She choked and
gaggod and when she tried to move her head away he forced it back into place. Mr. Epstein was
extremely aggressive. When it was ovr he fold her how amazing she was. She continued to
belive in My. Fpsiein’s (tiendship and guidance.
Mr. Epsiuin tak hee virginity. This was lhe trjectory for which he groomed ber. Ill
IN firs sca! expecieace was devoid of tenderness or ullection. She was stripped dova
‘and made to shower. Mr. Epstein told her, “IF you're Jying about heing a virgin, or 1 gat a
disease from you, I'l Kill you.” She felt hor mind scpurale fram her hady during interconrse.
She begin to feel like a shell of her former SCIf, She sus mortified and in agony. She
felt she had bocome everything her parents feared she would hesome. She was appearing in
beauty magazines and making hundreds of thousands of dollars, but Jell dirty and worthless, Mr.
Epstein made her feel like nothing more than a teenage prostitute. Tiverything came crashing
down once she realived tht this wes not love.
I iv. Epsteics residence for fhe Jest time feeling less than human. On
bier way out, she passed a young gitl who appeared to be another young model. As IN
turned around W glance back, she saw the young woman entering Me. Epstein’s residence. She
vias disgusted with the realization that she was one of many called t “massage” Epstein.
J + a nervous breakdown while alane in New York. She found herself
crying incomsolubly., shaking, hyperventilating and unable wn go lo her castings and mierings.
She was suicidal. She feared confiding i her agents and reaching out for belp from them
because sho was so ashamed. She booked a ticket to go home.
She flew back lo Kanwas where her parents wero living. She never returned to New York.
I costed with the realization of wht she was Ture into and how she
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ad bos victimized, 1 sbatered hor to her core. At the vulnecable age of 16. Mr, Fpsicin made
himself the center ol her existence and the master of her world. She realized she was»
disposable pawn in bis game. She could pot Ink uhout her years with Mr. Epstein because she
was consumed with shame. AC 16 years old. he isolated fe and made himself her only
emotional support system. |ler mental torment and pein turaed into depression. She vas
prescribed medication. She nunbed herself and tried not deal with what had happen. She
tried to block the pun.
I -brvassed that slic hid been used and abused. She withdrew and had
0 desire Io medel ar interact with anyone in the modeling world anymore, IESE
Slupped taking calls from modeling agencies. and eventually they stopped walling for good. She
was afraid to 20 fo News York where her cmotians and memories would be triggered.
The final contact between IN and Mr. Epstein was shen he tracked hee
parent's house phone number in Kansas and tried ta speak 10 her. |S othe
grabbed the phone and tld Ms. Epstein sh was calling te police before hanglag up on kim.
ler career dwindled to nofhing, Taking a break from the modeling industry when clients
ike lalian Voguc and Victarin’s Secret were requesting bookings comiluted career suicide.
in Kansas she hecame chronically depressed. She was suicidal before hor 18" birthday.
She called the suicide hosline many times from her hae.
While in Kunwas, a friend repro ee wilh news that Mr, Epstein
had boon arrested. for trafficking underaged girls. feluas if she had gone from
cisig a supermode) ia hearing an unsuspscting prostiute. Her purents’ warnings of what
svould boom of her in New York had come to fruition. She fel prey to a child predacor, Vi.
Epstein, and it took her 3 devade to understand the gravity of what Tpstein had done to her as a
vulnerable young girl.
Me. Upstel masgucraded ws a loving mentor, a parental substitute snd friend wha had
ting nS bc. test m ind. Tbe repercussions of te ses und menial
‘os SRI ured rata with her Te ist sovual encounters aro forever seared by
‘memotica of Mr. | pstein forciug his purple massage device betvvean her logs amidst her cris for
him to stop. Dehililating nausea and stomach pain followed her separation from him. She hued
10 framework with which to refecence what a “normal” sexual experience was. She remains
plagued with scl doubt nd insecurity and finds it nearly impassible to separate memories of
Mi. Epstcin's mumipalation and abuse from ney: relaunships she cies to develop.
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Ihe sexual abuse Mr. Fpstei inflicted upon ISN <5 rrcparabl psvchologicsl
scars, Sho hes struggled and canines to siigale with ht ability to maintain healthy
relationships with men and in general. Her carccr is permanently compromised und the
Iikelihaad of recovering severed professional fics is non-existent.
Please contact us within ten duys of this letrer 10 advise whether Mr. Epstein is amenable
ro attempting to resolv + civit claims without litigation.
Very tmily yous,
ORIA ALLRFD
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TN THT CIRCUIT COURT OF TIT 15711
Case No... 2009 CA 40BIOXXXXMBAG
Plain,
ws
SCOTT ROTHSTEIN, individually, and
BRADLEY J. EDWARDS, individually.
Defendants .
Defendant Bradley J. Edwards, Esq. offers the following specific frets us the undisputed
nti fils in (his case. Fach of the following facts is numbered separately and individually to
facilitate bpstein’s required compliance with Fla. R. Civ. P. L510(c) (“The adverse purly shali
ently... any summary julgoens evidence on which the adverse party relies”). All
referenced exbibits and ascents heve previously been fil with the Court and provided lo
Fpstoin.
‘Sexval Abuse of Cildren By Evstein
1. Defeméemt Epsicin hus & sexual preference for young children, Deposilion of
Jelliey Lpsiein, Mac. 17, 2010, oc 110 (hereizafier "Edscein Depo.”) (Deposition Attachment
#0
! Whew cuestioued about this subject at bis deposition, Epstoin invoked Lis Fifth Amada right i
cewain ileal cote Di: wake a. incriiuaring admission, Accoutingly, Edwards is entied 3 the
averse inference agaizst Epstein 1a, hod Epstein answered, Se answer would have bon vatvordle fa
Ein, “Tis well setled tat the F-fllk Amendment ¢oz3 not frkid advs: ieferences agalust partes to
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2. Epstein repemedly sexually assaulied mone than forcy (40) vourg girls on
Dumeroes uecausions bessveen 2002 sad 200 in kis azssion in West Balm Boch, Florids, Those
sexual zssunls included vag pereinton, Fpsicin abused tang of ie girls davers if not
Fundreds of times. Fysein Depo. ac 109 (0: Hows many tines bave you cogaged in oral sex
with females under the ge of 187" A: [Tnvocaion of the Fit Amendment; Deposition of ne
Doe, Seatember 24, 2009 and continued March 11, 2070), at 527 (minor girl sexually abused at
Tens 17 ines by Fpsteie) hersinafir “Jan Dac Depo”) (Deposition Attachment #2); id, S64-67
(vagus ponctaation by Epstein with his finger), 56% (vaginal penetcation hy lipstsin with a
sssager); Depositian af LM, Scpromber 24, 2009, at 73 (ercinafior “LM. Depo”)
(Deposition Artzchimens #3) Georg the minnie in which pein absed her beginning when
LM wa 13 years ale, souching her vai with is fingers od vibrocor) st 74, line 1213 (she
was personally molested by Epstein more tham 50 times), ul 164, line 19-22 und 341, line 12-13
and 605, Tine 3-5 (deseribing thet in addicion to being personaly molested by Epstein sho was
Jad $200 pes underage il sho brousht Bpsicia und she brought him more th severly (70)
nderse irl - she told him that she di sot want w bring him any more gicls aod he insisted
hat she continue to bring him underage iss), Deposition uf EX, May 6, 2010 (hereinafter
“EW. Depo") (Doposition Attachment £4) al 115-116, 131 and 255 (descriving Epstein's abuse
oF her ginning at age 14 when he gaid her for touching ber vagina, inseing bis fingers 20d
iil serio wher they ose 1 esti in rons ts probative evidence offered again fa” Baier
v. Paimigianc, 425 1.5. 308, 318 (19765 accard Vasque: v. State, #7 $0.24 1200, 1203 (Fla. App.
2001). Th reson for ai ule i bos lagi nd lian. A marty may ron tame uo he ghia oF
Sllees acd thes: escape the consequences by invoking x comiuilional priviege — at leu nal in i civil
“aim” Fraser . Securily sd or, Carp 6:5 S034 $11, S92 Fla. App. 1993),
2
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using a vibrator and be also paid her $200 for each other undenige female EW. brought him lo
molest. She brought him between 20 and 31 underage females); Deposition of lane Doe #2, date
(hereinafter “lane Doz #4 Depo”) (Deposition Attachment #5) at 32-34, end 136 (she describes
first being teken fo Epstein at 15 years old, "Ding Fugered by Win, having Lin use: a vibrator an
[me], grabbing my nipples, sinelling ty butt jerking off in oat of me, licking my clit, sevesal
ings").
3. Alu relevant times Edwacds bas hod a good faith 5asls to conclude and did
conclude” tirat Epstein was abl: to ceess 4 large number of undernge girls through a pyramid
abuse scheme in which he paid underage victims $200-5300 cash for each atber underage victim
that she bruught 1 him. See Palm Beach Police Incident Report at £7 herciuaficr “Incident
Report”) (Exhibit “A”), The Palm Reach Police Incident Report details Epstein’s scheme for
molestivg widerage feanzles. Among other things, the Tecident Report outlines some of the
‘experiences of other Epstein victims, When $.G,a 14 year ali minar 6: the time, was brought ta
Tpsiei’s Wm, she was ralen upstairs by 2 woman she belicved to be Epstein’s assistant. The
woitaa started to Sx up the oom, putting covers an the masssge luhle unl bringing lotions out
The “wssisiant” then ef the caom and told 5.G. that Epstein would be up in a second. Epstein
walked over to .G. and tok) fer to take Ler clothes of in & stem vaise, SG. shales in the repo.
she ¢id not know what lo do, 3s she was the anly one there. 5.0. mak off her shirt, leaving ber
fra or. Fipsizin, then in a towel cold ker to cake off everyting, S.G. ramoved hur pants leaving
= bn support of all aszerions cancwming he acrions Fdware took, what wards loamed. in fe sours of is
sezmseaalion of Is slats, Fiwandve pont Bift Delle end io foendstion far tips Bales, sec Birards
Anvit ar dspecifcaly purrs 25 id 25 of hat AFEdavit,
Fou ary, deposi stashed 0 is mermorarcun will 5 identified momsricely us sachets 1, 52, 4, cic.
Ie ci aaeod this emorandan ll bo ido lpaceiselly es exabits A. B,C.
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on ber fliong panies, Fpsisin ten instructed $03 30 give him a massage. As $.G gave Epstein 2
massage, Kpstein tuned around ang masturbared. S.G. was so disgusted, she did not say
anything; Epstein (uid her she "hed o rely ol body.” Zt al 14. Tu the report, $.G. admiliad
seeing Jeffrey Epstein’s pens and stated she though Epstein was on stores because he was a
“really built guy and bis wee sez was very finy.” Jd. at 15.
4. The enact nuiher of misor girls sho Epstein assauhed is knows only to Kpatein.
loivever, Edwards had a good faith basis to beliove and did in fio: beliove that Epstcin's victims
iors substantially wore than forty (40) in number. fn addizion to the deposition excerpts fram
vq of his meny victims above about the number of undergo girls brought to Epstein and the
Pali Bench incident. report, there is overwhelming proof that the number of underage girls
molested by Epstein. trough his scheme was in the hundreds. See Complaint, Jane Dog 102 v.
Epstein, (hereinafter Jane Dov 102 compiuiei} (Tishibit “B°); see also Deposition of Jelliey
Epstein, April 14, 2010, at 442, 443, and 444 (pstein invoking the Sth on questions about his
daily sibuse und molestation of vhildren) (Deposition Allacinnen! #6),
5. Ad all relevaat times Edwards has had a good faith basis to believe and did in fact
believe that Epstein and bis sttomeys knew of (he seriousness of tho criminal invesiigation:
aginst hira und corresponded constantly with the United States Atormey’s Office in an atemyt
to avoid the filing of sunerous federal felony offuscs, which offort was successful. See
Comesponvence (run US, Allorney’s Office to Fpstein (hereinafier “ILS. Aomey’s
Caitespondence" (Composite Exhibit “C) (provided in discovery during, he Jan Doc v, Epstein
cused
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6. Al all relevant limes Tichwards bis had 2 goud fuilh basis lo believe end did in fact
believe thar, more specifically, Epstein's attorneys kaew of Epsteic's scheme to cecruit minars for
sox and als kien hat these mimors hud civil setions hs they vould bring against him, In fact,
there was ach camnnmnication between Fpstein's atiorneys and the United States Prossuulors in
2 joint atcmpt to minimize: Epstein’ civil exposure. For example, on October 3, 2007, Assistant
U8, Mdtorney Marie Villain sent an enn] (iihed hereto us Txbibi: “D) lo Joy Lefkowitz,
‘counsel for Epstein, with attached proposed loter to special master regarding handling numerous
expected civil chins aging! Cpstein, The leticr reads in porlinent pari,
“The wdersigned, as counsel for the Cnied Siates af America and
Seley Tpstein, joinlly wile (0 you to provide information relessl 1a your
service és # Special Master in the sclection of en ationcy to represent sevoral
voung women who may have civil damages claims against Me. kpsein. 1a
(18. Attorney's Office and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (jointly referred
to ai The "Uiniled States”) have conducted an investigation of Teilrey Cpslein
zogarding his solistation of minor females in Palm Beach Caunty' to cagags in
prostitution. Mr. Epstein, through bis assistants, would recruit uaderage
females t travel i his ome In Palm each tn engage in lewd canrluct in
exchange for mancy. Bused upon the investigation, the Unilzd States has
identified forty (40) young women who can be characterized as victims
pursuant to 18 USC 2255. Some of those women went io Mr, Gpsiein's home
© only mes, sone wienl there ut ranch ws 100 limes or moms, Some of the
women's conduct was limiied to performing u topless or nude message while
Mr. Esstoin masturhated himself. For ather women, the conduct escalated to
Tul) sexual intercourse. As part of the resolution af the case, Tpei las
greed that he would nal antes! jurisdiction in the Souibern District of Floridy
for any victim who chose to sue hin for damages pursuant to 18 USC 2255.
Ms Lpstein agreed to provide an adorcey for visti: wha elected ta proceed
exclusively pursuant 1 hal section, and agreed lo waive any challenge lo
Jibilicy under that scction up lo en mount agreed to by tho partis. The partics
bave agreed to submit the sclection of an amoruey 10 a Special Master..."
2 Aull redevynt times Fubwards hog had a gon Gith basis 1p Selives and did in Gal
believe that LM. was, in act, 2 victim of Epstcin’s criminal ausc because LM. was onc of the
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sairor Females (at he Lied Seles Aliomey’s Oflice recognized as a victim. LM.’s sworn
deposition tescionony and the adverse inference drawn from Epstcin's refusal t testify confirm
that Epstuin began sexually assaulting TM. when she was 13 years ald and continued 1 molest
her on more than fifty (50) aceasions over thre (3) years. Epstein Depo., Atachment #1, ac 17
(“Q: Did you . .. over cogage in any sexual conduct with LM.#* A: [Tovocation of the Fifi
Amendment]; see also Fostein Depo., April 14, 2010, Attachment #6, at 456 ("(): LM was an
‘underage female ther you first abused when she was 13 years old; is that comet?” A: Tnvosation
of Fifth Amendment]
5 Kpstein was also given ample opporuity to explain why ho engaged in scxusl
activity with LM. beginning when LM. wis 13 years oll and why be has molested minor: on an
everyday basis for years, and he invoked his Sth amendment right rather than provide
explmation. See Epstein Deposition. Tebruamy 17. 2010, at 11-12, 3031 (Deposition
Attachment #7).
9. Epstein also sexually essed EW, begicning when she vas 14 years old and
dil sus or muneTius prcasions, See LW. Depo., Atachient #4 at 215.216,
10. Another of the minor girls Epstein sexuelly assaulled vars June Doe: the abuse.
bogan when Jin Dos was 14 years old. Rather dian inciionioate himself, Epstein favoked the
Sil amendment i questions about hie digitally penetrating Doe's vagina, using vibrators on ber
vagion and masturbuting and cisulating in her presence, Tpsiein Depo, April 14, 2010,
Attachment #6, at 420, 464, 468.
11 When Edwards's clients 1.M., FLW, ard Jane Dae were 13 or 14 years old, each
was hraught to Fpstein’s hame maltipic times hy enotber widorage victim. Epstein engaged in
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one ar more of th following acts with sach of tho then-minor girls ul bis mension: receiving a
topless or completely mudo massage; using & vibtaior wn her vagina, mesturbariog in hee
prescis; cjaculsting in her presence; touching her breast or bettoeks or vagina ur lhe clothes
covering her sexual organs; end demanding that she bring hin other underage girls. Fpstein acd
is co-conspirators used the telephone to contact these girl to entice or induce them into going
10 is mansion for sexual abuse. Epstein also made EW, perform oral sex on him and was 1
perform sex acts on Nadia Mercinkove (Tpstein's live-in sex slave) in Epsteins presence. Sac
Plaiofif Tums Doe's Notice Regarding Evidence of Similar Acts of Soxval Assault, fled in Jano
Toe v. Epstein, No. U8-cv-80893 (3.D. Fla. 2010), as DIE 197, {hereinatter “Rule 413 Notice™)
(Balubit "E"); Time Pos Depo, Atiachment #2, at 379-330; LM. Depo, Attachment #3, ac 416;
1L.W. Depa, Atachment 74, at 20,
12. Aull relesant tines Ditwacds has had a good faith basis to believe and did in feet
helieve that vet another of the minor girls Epsicin sexually assaulted was C.L. When she was
approximately 15 years old, C.I.. was brought 10 Kstein’s home by another underage victim.
While 4 minor, she was at Epstein's homo on multiple oconsions, Fawisin engaged in ane or
more of the following wets with her while she ws a minor at bis house - topless or completely
ude mussige on Tpstein; Epstein used a vibretor on her vaging; Tpstein msturbuied in her
presence; Bpstein cjocularod in her presence; Epstein also demanded that ste bring him other
underage girls, Sev Rule 413 Natice, Exhibit “k"; Incident Report, Exhibit “A."
13. At all relevant times Fedwarils has hil u good faith basis 10 believe and did ia fact
belicve that you amoiher gil Mpstein sexually assault ws AH. When she was spproximeicly 16
years. old, she was brought to Epstein's home by suofhir underage victim. While a minor, she
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was at Epstein’s home on multiple vocasians. Tpstein engaged in one of wore of the foliowing
acts with hor while she was @ minar at his house - topless or completely muds msgs on
Epsieis Iipslein used a vibrator ou her vagivu: Fpstein masturhzced in her presence; Epsicin
ejaculered in her prescove; Fpsiein luched ker breast or buttock or aging or the clatties
covering her sexual organs: was made to perform sux wots vr; Tsing made to perform sex aces
an Nadia Marcinkova in Epstein’s prosence. Rpstein also forcibly raped this uncerege victim, us
ho hid her bead down ugains. her wil and pumped bis penis inside her whi she was sceeaming
"Na. See Rale 413 Notics, Exhibit “Fs Tneident Report, Exkizit “A”, at 41 (specifically
discussing the rape):
“{AJL) remembered that she olimexed and was removing herself from tho
masse table. [4.11] asked for a sheet of paper ind ire the rassage table in the
master bathroom and where |'pstein, Marcinkova and she viore, Fpsiein tuned
JAH] on to her stomuch on fhe massage bed and inscrted kis penis ino her
yagina. |A.H.] sured Epstein bogim lo pump his penis in her vagine. [AH]
ocarne upset over this. She sald her head was being held again the hed forcibly,
as be contd fo pump inside hee She screamed no, 20d Epstein stopped ...”
“[AH.] advised there were times that she was so sore when she left Kpstein's
house. [AH] wivised se was rigped, tom, in hor veging area. [ATL] advised she
ad difficulty walking to the var uler leaving the ouse because she was s sore.”
14, Witham detailing each fet known shoul Fpatein’s abuse of the many underigs
girls, Edwards has had a good [ith basis to believe and did in fect boliove at all slovant limes
that Epstein also abused ofher viet in ways closely similar to those dessribed in the preceding
pacugruphs. Epstein’s acditional victims includ the following (among many otier) young gis:
S453 AD; VA: NR; 184 VZ3 LA; FE; ML; MD; PID; und DN. These gis were
between the ages of 13 and 17 when Fpsiein hused them. See Rule 413 Notice, Exhibit Tiz
Deposition of B.W., Deposision Azachment #4.
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15. One of Mr. Epstein’s household employees, Mr. Alliedo Rodrigher, saw
numerous endersge gisls vowing ino Epseein’s mansion for purported “messages” See
Rodrigue Depo. at 242-44 (Deposition Attachment #5). Rodrigues was aware lai “sex fogs”
ad vibrators were found in Tipsien’s bedraom ater the purported massages. 4. ar 223-28,
Rodger thought what Epstein was doing was wrong, given the extreme yaulh of fhe girls he
saw. fd. at 230-31.
16. Allred Rudvigner. sak a journal fiom Epstein’s computer that reflected many of
the rames af underage females Epstein dbused across ihe country and the world, including
locations sich as Michigan, California, West Palm Beach, Rew York, New Mexico, and Paris,
France. Soe Journal (hereinafter “Tao Journal” or “Holy Grail’) {Exhibit “17 (idenciying,
among other Epsiein wequainiances, females that Rodriguez believes were underage under the
‘healing Inbeled "Massages™).
17. Rodriguez wns later charged in a crineinal complaint with obstruction of fustios in
conmaetion with tying to abtain $30,000 from civil attomeys pursuing <ivil sexual assaull cases
agains: Epstein as payment for producing the baak 10 the attorneys. See Criminal Complaint ut
2. US. v. Rodriguez, No. 9:10-CR-80015-KAN (S.D. Fla. 2010) (Fxhibil “G7). Rodrigues
Stated he needed moncy because the journal was his “property” and that be was aftaid that
Joffrey Epstein would make hi: “discppear” unless be had au “insurance policy” (i fhe
journal). ef at 3. Becausc of the importince of the information in the joumal to the civil cases,
Mr. Rodviguez eller i “The (oly Grail"
15. In the “Holy Greil” or “The Tours,” aicong he many nares liseed (along with
tho abused girls) ure soume of the people that Kpstein aileges i: his Complaint bad “no canrection
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wshatsaever” wich the litigation in this cee. See, e.g, Taumal, fixhibit I, 8S (Donald Trump);
09 (Bill Clinton phone nmibers listed under “Doug Bands).
Federal Investigation and Pica Agreeovent Wits Epiein
19. In sporosimately 2005, the FBI and the U.S. Attorney's Office in the Southern
Distr of Florida learned of Bpsoin's repeated sexual abuse of minor girls, They began @
criminal investigation info fedorel ollenses related to his crimes. See US. Atomey's
Comespondenye, Tahibiz °C.
20. Avall relevant times Favours has uc a good faith basis to believe and did in fact
blisve thal (4b avail he Government learning about his abuse of minor girls, Tpstein Mreatened
Sis employes and demanded thet hey not cooperate with the goverrinen:, Fpstein's aggressive
withess tampering was so severe thal lhe United States Attorney's Office proparcd nogotinted
plea agreements containing these charges, For example, in a September 15, 2007, email from
AUSA Villafiia to Telkowil (atiached hereto as Exhibit “H), she attached the propose plea
agreement desciihing Bpstein's witness tamporing as follows:
UNITED STATES vs, JEFFREY PSTTIN PLUA PROFFER"
On August 21, 200%, FRI Speciat Agents K. Nesbitt Kirkendall aud Jason
Richards traveled 10 the home ul Leslie Graff to serve her wich a federal rnd
jury subgoena with an investigation pending in the Souler District of Florida.
Ms. GrolT works as the persona! assistant of the defendant. Ms. Goll” began
speaking will the ayents and then excused herself to po upstairs to check on hor
Sleeping child. While upstaizs, Ms. Grofl Ieleghaned che defenda, Joffrey
Fipsiein, aad informed him that the FBL agents were ul her home, Mr. Fpstein
instructed Ms. GrolT not to speak with the agents and ropcimumded ber for
allowing thera into ior home, Mr. Cpsiein applied pressure to keop Ms. GrofT
Tron complying with he grand Fury sebpocmis that the agents had served pon
her. Tn particulay, Me. Epstein wamed Ms, Groff wgairs srming aver documents
amd electronic evidence responsive w the subpaci end pressured her 10 delay her
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appearace before the grand Jury in the Southem District of Florida, This
canvensation occurred when Mr. Fpstein wis shied his privaiely owned civilian
airerafi in: Miami in the Souther District of Florida. His pilot bad filed a flight
pian showing the parties were about to rerum fo ‘Teterboro, NI. ARer the
canversation with Vis. Gro, Mr, Epstein became cancerned that the FBI would
ry to serve bis tnsveling vomprnion, Nadia Murcinkovs, with « similar rend fury
subpoena. In fac, the ageats were preparing to serve Ms. Marcinkova with a
target letter when the flight landed In Teterhoco. Mr. Epstein then redirected his
airplme, taking ie pilot lk & new Might plan to travel lo (he US Virgin Ishunds
instead of the New York City area, thereby keeping the Special pens from
serving the carget letter on Nadia Marcinkova. During the flight, the defendant
verbally harassed Mis. Marcinkava, icussing and pressuring her roi lo caoperats
with the grand jury's investigation, thereby hiadering and dissuadivg her from
reporting the commission of 4 violation of foderal low to a law enforcement
officer, nameiy, Special Agents of the FBI. Kpsisin also thveatened and narassed
Sarah Kellen against cooperating ngwinst ir us well,
21. kdwards leamed that the Fab Beach police department investigation ultimately
Ted @ the exvostion of « search warmunl at Epsiein’s mansion in October 2005. See Police
Incident Report, Exhibit “A”.
22. Fidvards leaned that ol scoand fhe sim ime, the Paha Beach Pelive Deparment
alsa hegan investigating Epstein’s sexual ahuse of minor girls. They also callected evidence of
Epstein’ involvement with minor girls and bis obsession with training sox slaves, including
pulling information fram Tipstein's trash. Their investigation shower thal Tpsiein vrdereal fran
Amazon.com on about September 4, 2005, such books as; SM101: A Realist Introduction, by
Jay Wiseman; SlavaCran: Roadmaps for Leotic Servinude - Principles, Skil, and Tools, by Guy
Bakdwirs; aud ‘(raining with Miss Ahemathy: A Workbook for Erotic Slaves and ‘Their Owners,
hy Christin Abernathy, See Roceipl for Sex Shwe: Puke (Exhibit “T"),
23. The Palm Beach incident reports provided Edvards with tie names of aumcrous
witiesses (nl parivipated in Cpstein’s chiki molestation eritninal ensecprise end also provided
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Taiveards with some insight into bow far-reaching Eostoin's power wass ind hoe addicted Epstein
was 10 sex with chillren. See Tnciders. Report, Fhibit “A”
24. The Palin leach Police Deparment also collected Epstein’s message pads, which
provided other nares of peopl: thal also knew Fpstein's scheme ta malest children. See
Mossage Pads (Exhibit “I") (note: the aames of underage females have been redacted to protoct
the ananyaity of the underage sex abuse victims). Those message pads show clear indication
that Epscsin's stall was froquenty working ta schedule multiple young airls between the ages of
12m 16 years old literally every day, ofton two or threo times per day. Jd.
25. In light of ali of the information af numerous crimes committed by Epstein,
Fidvaris learned that the U.S. Attorney's Offico began proparing the fling of foders! criminal
chacges against Epstein, For example, in addition (0 Lhe wilcess tampering and money
Tuumdering charges the LS. Atcamey's Office propared an 32-pege prosceution memo amd & S3-
page Indleument of Epstein related 10 fix wennal whuse of chldien. On Sepreciber 19, 2007, at
12:14 PM, AUSA Villzafaha wrote ta Epstein's counscl, Jay Lelkowilz, "Jay - Tate to have lo be
firm: about this, but we nced to wrap this up by Monday. 1 will nol miss ty indictment dace
hon this has dragged on for several weeks ulready end thea, if things fall apart, be left in 2 loss
advaviageous position than befor the negotiations. have had an 82-page pros meno and 53-
page indicmicnt sitting vn the shell since Mey to engage in these negotiations. “There has fo be
an ending date, 2nd that date is Monday." These end othr communications are witkin the
comespandense etushod we Composite Fahiit “C."
26. Gttwards learned that rather than facs he filing of fedeml felony eriminal charges,
Epstets (through His ullomeys) engaged in plea hargaln discassions. As a resaht of those
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discussions, on September 24, 2007, Epstein signed an agreement with the US. Atmey’s
Office For tho Snuthern Disisiel of Ford. Linder th ugreement, Tpsluin wgroed bo plead guilty
10 an indicunent pending agaisst hi in the 15° Judicia] Circuit in and for Pali Beach County
charging him with solivitation of prostitution anc procurement of minors for prostitution.
Fisiein als agreed thal he would receive a thirty month sentence, inchuting 18 months of jail
time 2nd 12 months of community control. In exchange, the U.S. Attomey's Office agreed not to
pursue any eden] charges ugeinst Fpstein, See Non-Prosecution Agreement (Txhibii “Kh
27. Part of the Nou-Prosceution Agreement that Epstein negociated was a provision in
which the fedenil government agreed ool & proscculs Bpetsin's co-conspirators. The co-
conapirutoes procuced minor females to be molested by Lipstein. One of the co-conspirators -
Nadia Murcinkov -even pariipsled it the sex sts will minors Cineluding FW.) and Tsien.
Se Tncideat Report, Exlibit “A”, at 40-42, 49-51; Deposition of Nadia Marcinkova, April 13,
2010, (hereinafter “Marcinkovs Depo.”) ai 11 (Deposition allachmen £9),
28 Under the Noa-Prosecusion Agresment, Jpstein was ta use his “hes: efforts” to
entec into his guilty pleas by October 26, 2007. However, Edwards leamed thac Epstein violated
is agreement with the U.S. Attorneys Office 10 do 50 and delayed entry of his plea. See Lefer
om US, Atwouncy R. Akander Acosta to Lilly Ann Sanchez, Doc. 19, 2007 (Exhibit “17
20. On Jaruury 10, 2008 snd again or May 20, 2008 LW. and LM. recived letiers
from the FBI advising them thar “[tlhis case is curently under investigation. This can be a
Tongthy process and wo equi. your continued patience while we conduzt a thorugh
investigarion ® Letiers artached at Composite Exhibit “M". “This document is evidence that the
FEI did not noiily EW. und TM. that u plea ugreement had eirendy been reached hat would
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lock fxleral prosecution of Epstein, Nox did the FBI notify FW. and L.M. ol any of the parls of
the. plea agreement. Nor did the TBI or other federal authorities confer with kW. and LM.
about the ples. See id.
30. In 2008, Edwards belicved in good fit that sriminal prosecution of Epstein was
extremely important 10 biy ¢lients LW. and LM. and chat they desired to be consulled by the
FRI uniiar other representatives of the foderal goverment about the prosecution af Lpstein.
The fotters that thoy had received around January 10, 2008, suggosred that # criminal
investigation of Tpsiein was an-going and thet they would be contacied before the fede]
government cezched any final rosolction of hat investigation. See id
Edwards Agrees tu Serve ov Leoa! Counsel for Three Victims of Tpsiein’s Sectal
Assauliy
30 In shoul April 2008, Bradley J. Edwards, Esq., was u licensed altorney i Farida,
prailicing 05 a sole practitioner. As a former prosecutor, he was well versed in civil casos tht
involved ceiminal els, ineluling sexual assaults, Three of the many girls Epstein had ahused —
LM. TW, and Jane Doc — all requested thal Tiwards represent them civilly and socurc
apgropriare monetary dsmuges against Iipstein for cepeated acts of soxual abuse while they were
minor girls, Twa of the girls (LM. and EW.) sls reucsted that Iwas represent them in
connection with a concem bul le Federal Rureau of Investigation (FBI) and U.S. Adomey’s
Office might be nrmanging a plea Sargain for the criminal offenses committed by lipsozin without
providing them the legal rights to which fley were entitled (including the sigh to be notified of
plea discussions wd the right to confer with proscutors waaul any pln armgenienss, See
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Alfidavit of Bradley J. Edwards, Esa. at 1 - 2, 4 (hereinailer “Cdswards Affidavit’) (Exhibit
32. On June 13, 2008, stromoy Edwards ngreed to represent 13.; on July 2, 2008,
attorney Edwards agree] 0 represent fane Doe; and. on July 7, 2008, attorney Edwands ugred Io
sopruscau LM, in connection with the scxusl assuls committed by Fpsiein and to iasure that
thelr sighs as victims of crimes were protested in lhe criminal process on-going agaist Epstcin
Mr. Edwards end hs three clients executed written retention agreements, Sec id, al 2.
3. In mid Junc of 2008, Bdwards contucied AUSA Villafaha to infor hor that he
seproscuted Jane Dios #1 and, later, lane Doe #2. AUSA Villafifia did nol advise that plea
agreement had already been nogotistod with Fpstein’s avoreys thar would block fedoraf
prosecution. To the contr, AUSA Villafata mendoned + possible indictment, AUSA
Villafafia did indicate that federal favestigators had concrete evidence and information that
Epstein bad sexuully molesied many underage minor females, including FW, LM, and Jane
Poe, See id aL 44.
34. Edwards ulso requested frum the 11S. Attorney's Office the informetion thal thes
had colleuted regarding Epstein’s sexual abuse of bis alienis, Hawever, tie LS. Attoraey's
Office, declined to provide uny such information to kdvards. It similarly declined lo provide
umy sch inurmmation 10 fhe other attameys who represented victims of Fpsiein’s sexual assaults.
Authe very leas: this includes the items that were confiscated in the search warrant of Epstein’s
hore, including Gilivs. vias, massage table, oils, wd addiiom] messige pads. See
Property Receipn (Exhibit 0"),
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35. Om Friday, lane 27, 2008, at approximsiely 4:15 p.m. AUSA Villalada received a
apy of Epstein’ proposed state ples agreement and learned that th plea was scheduled for 8:30
sm, Monday, June 30, 2008, AUSA Villafasia called Edvards 1 provi novice fa his cliescs
rogurding the hearing. AUSA Villafata 6id not 1611 Aomey Iidwards that the silty pleas in
state cow would bring wn wd wo the passibilicy of federal prosceution pursunnl 1 the plein
green. See Cdwards Affiavir, Exhibit “N', ul $6.
36. Under fhe Criowe Vietins’ Righss Act (CVA), 18 US.C. § 3771, viciims of
fodersl crimes — including 1W. and LM. — wo entitled 10 basic rights during any plea
hargaining process; including the right 0 he treated with faimess, the digtt (0 confer will
prosecutors regeding my plea, and the right to be heard regarding any plea. The process that
was Tollowed leadisg to the non-prosecution of Lpsiein violated shese rights of EW, and T.M.
See Fuacrgeney Petn, for Victim's Enforcement of Crifue Victien’s Rights, Na. 9:08-CV-80736-
KAM (8.0. Fla. 2008) (ochibit “B").
37. Bocuse of the vialatian of the CRA, on July 7, 2008. Fiwards filed an action in
he US. District Cow for the Southern District of Florida, Case No. $:08-CV 8UT36, seeking to
enforce the rights of EW, al LM. “hat action alleged fat the U.S. Addomey’s Office had
ited 0 provide 11. and LM. the rights lo which they were entitled uncer the Act, including
the right to be notified wboul u ples agreenent and to confer with prosecutors regarding 1. See
id.
35 Oa July 11, 2008, Fdwards lak EW. 2ad LM. with him to the beacing v1 the
CVRA action. I was only a this hearing thet both victims lzurced foc Use fst tine that he plo
deal was slrcary done with Fipstein and that the criminal case against Tipsiein had been
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effectively terminated by the 1.5. Atiamey’s office. Swe Hemming Trenseript, July 11, 2008
(Exhibit “Q").
39, Fiwads leamed au Jae Doe ell so stoongly tit (Be ples bargain was
inzppropizre thet she made her own determination to appear an a telexision program and
exercise ler Fist Auenduenl. rights Io orificize (5 unduly lenient ploa bargain Epstein received
ina criminal case.
40. The CVRA action that Bdvarcs filed was recently administratively closed and
Edwards filed a Motion i reapen that procesding. See No. 9:08-CV-80736 (S.D. Fla).
Epson's Entry of Gul Pleas ro Sex Offenses
41. Uttimately, an June 30, 2008, in the Fifteenth Jusicial Gireuil in Palen Basel
Comaty, Hlorids, dofendant Epstein, entered plozs of “guilty” to various Florida state crimes
invalving the salicitaiion of’ minors Tor prostitution and the procurement of minors for the
‘purposes of prostitution. See Plea Colloquy (Exhibit “X").
42. As u vondiion of thal ples, and in excimge for the Fedora] Govermacnt not
proscouting the Defendant, Epscein additionally entered into an agreement with the Federal
‘Government avknvwledging thet approximately thirty-four (34) other young girls could receive i
pagments Gor him under the federal statute providing for campensatior. lo victims of child
sexu abusc, 18 USC. § 2255. As bid bon agroed months before, the U.S. Adtommey's Office
did not prosecute Eptela federally for bis sexual abuse of flies minor girls. See Addendum lo
Nop-Prosceution Agreement (Exhibit “S”) (in redacted fom: to protect toc identities of the
minars invailyedt),
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43. Because Epstein became a convicted scx offender, hi was not lo have contact
with any of bis vietims. During the course of his guilty pleas an lune 3ih, 2008, Palm Beach
Ciruil Court Jutige Deborah Dale Pucillo erdersd Epstein “nor to have any conta, direct or
indirec:" with any victims, She also expr stetod that her ra-cosisel ander applied tn “al! of
tho victims.” Similar prers were entered hy the federal court handing some of she civil cases
against Lpstein. Ihe foderal court stecod that i “finds it necessary ta state early that Defendant
is und this courts order nat 10 have dec or fudicecs contact with any plains." Order,
Cisse No. 9:08-cv-R0119 (S.D. Fla. 2008), [DE 238] at 4-5 (smphasis added); see iso Onler,
Case No. 9:03-cv-30893, IDF 193] 412 (emphasis ackled).
Edwards Kites Civil Suits Against Epsicin
44. Edwards had good faith befiel tu his clients Tell angry and betrayed by the
criminal system and wished to prosceutc and punish Epstein for bis crimes ugeinsl thers in
whatever avenue remained open to them. On August 12, 2008, a¢ the request of bis client Jaze
Doc, Bred Fawards filed a civil suit agains Jeffrey Epstein to recover dumeages for his sexusl
ass af Jane Doc. Soc Edwards Affidavit, “Ne 7. Tnciudsd ir is Gomplains was & RICE
count that expluined hos Iipetein ran a criminal conspiracy to procure young girls for im to
seualy abwe. See Complain, Jane Doc v. Epstein (Exhibit “T7).
45. On Sepicanbsr 11, 2008, ul the request of his client EW. Brad Edwards filed a civil
suit against leftiey Iipsiein 20 recover damages for bis sexual assacil of EW. See Complaint,
KW. v. Epmein (Exhibit “U7).
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46. On September 11, 2008, at the request of bis clicat LM.., Brul Fdwards filed a civil
suil against Jeffrey Epstein w recover damages for his sexual assault of LM. See Complain,
LM. v. Epstcin, (Exhibit “V*).
47. Jn Doe's federal complaint indicated thet she sougit damages of more hen
$50,000,000. Listing the amount of damages sought in the compiaint wes in accord will alher
civil sits hat were. led against Epstein (before any Lawsuit Filed by Twurds). See Couplaiut
Jame Doe #4 v. Lpstein (Exhibit “W™) (ied by Terman and Mermelstein, PA).
48. At shout the swe time as Edwards fod bis three lawsuils against Tpstein, otber
civil attorneys were Gling similar Tawsuits aguingt Fpstein. Vor example, os or aboul April 14,
2008 another lw firm, Terran and Mermelstoin, filed the Srv. vivil uction agaios: Fpsen or
batmll of one of is seven elicnts who vere molested hy Fpatein. The camplaius that atomey
Herman filed on behalf of his seven clients vere similar in tenor 2nd fen 1 the complaint that
Edwards filed on behalf of his three chicuts. See id.
49. Over tho nest year uni a hal, more than 20 other similar civil actions were filed by
various sllomeys against Epstein alleging sexual ass of minor girls. These complains were
also similar in teuor snd tone 1o fhe compleint that kdswards filed on belalf of bis clients. These
compluints ure 1 public recard asd have not besa attachid, bul are availzble in dis Court's files
und the les 0 the 41.5, District Cot for fhe Swaliem District af Florida.
50. In wddition to the complaiats filed aginst Epstein in Florids, a female in New York.
Av Cordera, filed a lawsuit against Epstein in New York making similar alicgations = tht
Epsteia ped ber for u massage en forced her to give bi oral sex and molested her in ofacr
ways when she wes only 16 years olé, Cordero was bam 2 male, and In he complaint she
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alleges that Epstein told her during the “massage”, “1 love bow young you are. You have a tight
butt like 0 buby”. See Jet” Epsteis Sued for "Repeated Sexual Assan'ss” an Teen, New York
Pos, October 17, 200%, by Dush Grgoram lnk an
beige epost com'pinassicegionalitem_ A4zIWWLUTTI7R FOUIKY (Nb: jsessionid=6CAS
ERT IRTTSATSDEISBEBACAASCITED. See Arlicie attached hereto as Exhibit “X".
SL Edward's ibree complaints against Epstein cuntingd Joss detail about sexual
abuse Caan {as ane example) 2 complaizt fled by eltomey Roherl Iasephsbers from cic law finn
of Yodhurst Orseck, See Camplaind, Jane Doe 102 «. Epstein (Fabibit “R"). As recounted in
detail in this Camplaint, Jane Doz 102 was 15 years old when Ghisiaime Maxwell discovered ber
and lured her to Epstoin’s house. Muswell and Fpsteic forced hr to have sex wilh both af ther
and within wesks Maxwell and Epstein were flying her all aver the world. According to tho
Complaint, Janc Doc 102 was forced fo live as ane of Epstein's underage son shives for years
and was loresd Go have sex with not only Maxwell and Epstein but also other politicians,
businescmen, royalty, scademniviuns, cic. She was even mad to watch Epstein have sex with
three 12-year-old French girls that were sent to him for bis birthday by a Trench citizen that is a
friend of Ipstei’s. Luckily, Jane Dos 102 escaped to Australia 0 get sway from Epstein and
Maxwell's sexual abuse.
52. Edwards loamed that in addition to civil suics that ers filed in court aginst
Epstein, at around the seme time other atameys engaged in pre- fling sedflement discussions
wilh Epstein. Ries than fac filed civi) suits in these cues, Epstein paid money scttlements la
ore than 1 other women wha hud sexually abused while they were minare, See articles
regarding setlements attached bomelo us Composite Exhibit Y."
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Fpsteip 's Obstruction of Normal Discovery and Argacks on His Viciims
53. Onoe Edwards fled bis civil vormpluinis for his three clients, he began the aarmal
process of discavery for cases such as these. Ho sou standand discovery requests fo Fpsiein
sbcint his sexual abuse of the minor girs, including requests for admissions, request for
production, and intervoguiories. See Tilwards Affidavit, Exbibie “N", et f11-19 sad 25.
Rater than answer any substantive questions sboul his sexual abuse aud his conspiracy far
procuring minor girls fur him fv abuse, Epstein invoked his Sth amendment right against self
ncriminacion. An example of Epstein’ refusal fo answer in wilachied us Campaaite ixhible "2"
(original discovery propounded tn Tpstein and his responses invaking Sth amendment).
54. During the discovery phase of the civil casss Bled aginst Iipstein, Iipsicin's
deposicion was taken ot losst five times, Dring all of those depositions, Epstein refused to
anmsvicr amy substumtive questions about his sexual abuse of minor wits, Stee, et, Deposition
Autachemeots 1, 6 and 7.
55. During these deposicions, Epstein further sttempled fo obstruct legitimate,
questioning by inserting a vericty of imelevant information about his case. As ons of
innumerable Sxamples, on March 8, 2030, Mr. Ilerowitz, representing soven victims, Tans Dass
2-8, asked, "Q: In 20404, did you rub Fate Doe ¥'s vagina? A: Tiacuse me. I'd like t answer that
question, es [would Tike Io answer mostly every question you've asked me here today; however,
upon advice of enunsel, 1 cannot answer thal question. They've advised me | must assert my
Sixth Amendment, Fifth Amendment aud Fourteenth Amerdment Rights against sol [excuse
me, ngainst-unde: the Constitution. And thovgh your partner, Jefieey |lerman, was disbured
after fling this lawsuit [a semen that wos unmeel, Mr. Edwarcs' paner ss in fail for
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fabricating cases of 4 sexual nature Neecing uosuspesiing Florida investors and ofliers ou of
amillions of dlls for cases of a sexual nature with--Yd like to answer your questions; however if
I--Lim toid that if I do so, 1 risk losing Tay counsel's represealation; therefore Tried secpl their
advice." Epstein feposisinn, March §, 2010, at 106 (Deposition adachmant #10).
56. Wilien kdwards had the opportmiry to take Epstcin’s doposition, hc only asked
onfonable questions, all of which related 10 the weris of the cases against Kpstein. All
depositianss al Epstein in which Mr. Edwards participated on behalf of his clicnrs are ateached to
his motion. See Edwands AF, Exhibit “N” a1 {31 and Deposition axtachments #1, 6,7. 10,
11, 12, and 13. CF. with Depositian of Epstein taken by an swore represeating BE (omc in
which Edwards was not participating), hup:tfwww. youtube somivateh?v=N-dquliyY Xa: and
pir youtube contvathty YONIYIEW-10
57. Edwards's cffors lo obusin information wbout Tpsiein's organization for
procuring young girls was also hiocked because Epstein's co-conspirators took the Fide
Deposition of Saxzh Kellen, Maxch 24, 2010 (hercinafler “Kellen Pepo.”) (Deposition
tnchment #14); Depusition of Nadia Marsinkova, Apsil 13, 2010, (Deposition attachment #9);
Deposition of Adriana Muciask Ross, March 13, 2010 (uersinsfier “Ross Depo.”) (Deposition
atichment #15). Tack of Mhese co-conspirasors invoked their respective rights against sclf-
inerimisiation us 10 all relevant questions, and the depositions bave been attacked.
$8. Alall relevant Ges Tebwards has had a goo faith hasis to believe and did in face
heliave Sarch Kellen was 2a employee of Epstoin’s aud had been idenfificd az a defendant in an
least one of tie complials guinst Epstein for her rale in bringing ils to Epstein’s mansioc: ta
Te bussed. A the deposition, she was represented by Bruce Reinhart. She invoked the Tilth on
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all substantive questivrs regarding ker role i arranging. for minor girls @ come 0 Epstein's
mansion 10 be sexaaily abused. Reinhart had proviously boon an Assistent United Stetes
Atocaey in the T.5. Attomey's Office for the Saulhern District. of Farida when lipstein was
being invesligated crimioaily by Reinbarts office. Reine loft the United States Adomey's
Office and vas imumediarcly hired by Epstein lo reprosent Fpefein's pilots aml certain co-
conspirators during dh: civil cases gains! Fpeiein. See Felwards Affidavit, Exhibit "N" ae yi 1
$9. Falwars also had other lines of iegidmans discovery blocked through the elforts
of Epstein and oflcrs. For exmple, Talwar learned trough deposition that Ghisiaioe Maxwell
wat involved in ninaging Epstein’ ateirs and comanics. See deposition of Epstcin's louse
manager Janusz Beoziak, February 16, 2010 uf page 14, lines 20-25 (Deposition. Attachment
#16); See deposition af Epstein's housekeeper Louella Rabuyo, October 20, 2009, page: 9, Tinos
17-25 (Depasition Attachment #17); See deposisivn of Tpstein's ilu Tary Fagene Marison,
Ociober 6, 2009, page 102-103 (Deposition Attachment #18); See deposition of Alfredo
Rodriguez, August 7, 2009, page 302-106 £d 148 (Deposiion Auachment #8); See also Mined
Androws Friend, Ghiskine Maxwell, Some Underage Gids aad A Very Disaurbing Story,
Sepiemher z, 2007 by Wendy Taigh, Tink at
tp forme. cediovarvativns.coméarticle. php? JE9SOHANNA SIOBERG Exhibit "AA"
60. Allreco Rodriguez testifiod thet Maxwell took photos of girls without the girls!
knowlodge, kept the imuges on Ler computer, knew the names af the undersge girls ard their
respective phone nuinbers and ather underage victims wore molested by Fpatein and Maxwell
together. See Deposition of Rodrigusz, Deposition artachment # § at 64, 169-170 and 236.
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61 Tn reasonchile reliance on [bis and vier inlbaonation, Edvards served Maxwel? for
deposition in 2009. See Deposition Notice attached as Exhibit “BE.” Maswel: was represented
by Direll Jaffe of the New York firm of Cohen an Gresser, and Edwards understood. chat ber
attomey was paid for (dicectly oc indirectly) by Epstein. She was reluctant to give her
deposition, und Edwads tried Lo work wilh her attomey to take her deposition on terns that
would he acceptable to hath sides. The result was the attached con idenlislily ireemerd. under
which Maxwell agreed to drop any obicetions to the deposition, attached hereto as Exhibit "CC."
Maxwell, however, conirived 10 avoid the Geposition. On June 29, 2000. one day before
Edwards was to fly to NY to ake Maxwell's deposition, her attamey informed Ldwasds that
Was wll’s wher was Gesdily 31 asd Maxwell wa omssquently fying Go England with no
intention of reruming to the United States. Despite that assertion, Gslaine Maxwell was in fact
in the country on July 31, 2010, as she #tended the wedding of Chelssa Clincon (former
President Cliaton’s daughter) znd vias caprure in a phatogeaph taken far OK magazine. Phoios
from Lisuo 809 uf the publication See US Weekly dated August 16, 2010 are attached becto us
Lixkibit “DD” and Ucwands ARidaviz, lchibit 'N” a5 12
62. Maxwell is not the only importunt wimess Lo lic to avoid deposition by Edwards.
Lpin review of the messege pads that were ken Fram Epstein’ home in the police Insh pulls,
see Exhibit “J spre, many vere from Jen Luc Bran, a French citizen and oce of Epstein’s
closest pals, Tle Teli messuges for Tipsieiz. One duled 4/1/05 suic, “Tle has « teacher for you iv
‘euch you bow to speak Russian. She is 248 years old, not blonde. Lessons are free ard you can
save your 1% today IF youu call” Sex: Messages taken (rors fear Lug rune ire alteehed berelo as
Exhibit “EE” In light of chose ciroumstances of the ease, this message reasonably saggcsted to
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Latwards hat Brunel tight have been procuring hwo eight-year-old girs for Kpsizin to sexually
abuse. According (0 widely cireulised press reports reviewed by Edwards, Brunel is in bis
inties and has a reputation throughout the world (and especially in the modeling industry) as a
cocaine addict thal hus for years malested chitdres, through modeling agencics while acting as
Heir agent conduct that has been th subject of artical reports, bucks, several news wrliciss
and a 60 Minus dovemeniacy on Brunel’s sexual exploitation of underage models. Se
hteutradmillershero, blogspot eomi201 10% women -arc-objecs html, 2itached herelo ns Exhibil
wy
6. Tiwards leased that Bruncl is also someone (wt visikd Tpstcin on
approximately 67 oscasions while Tpstein was in jail. See Epstein’ jail visitor fog atiached as
Exhibit “GG.
64. Falvards leaned that Brunel currently runs the modeling agency MIC2, a campany
for which Epstein provides finial support. See Message Pads attached as Exbibit “I” sigpra
and Swann Statement of MC2 cuployee Marites Vasquez, Tune 15, 2010, “Maritza Vaseuer
Swom Statoment” atthe ul Tabibil “U7 at 1-16.
65. Implayees of MC? told Edwards dat Epstcin’s numeri condos at SOF Fast 66
Steet in New York wero used Lo house young models, Fdwards was wld that MC2 modcling
geacy, affliated with Lipsiein aad Brucel brought andorage girls from wll over the world,
aramising them modeling conracts, Tpsioin and Brunel wild then obtain a visa for these girs,
then would shure the widerage gids reat, presumably to five ay underage prostitutes in the
condos. See Maritza Vascuez Som Statement, Fxhibit “111” at 7-10, 12-15, 29-30, 39.41, 59-
60 end 62-67.
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G5. Iu view of this information suggesting Brune! vould provide significant svidence
of Fpstein’s tafticking in young girls for sexual abuse, lidviards had Brunel served in New York
for deposition. Sez Notice of Deposition of Joan Luc Brunel attached hereto as Exhibit "11"
Relore The deposition tok place, Brunel's attorney (Tuma Kudman of” Wes! Palm Bench)
contacted Edwaids to delay the deposition date. Eventually Kuda informed Edwards in
Janyary 2009 that Brunel bud lef) the country und wes back in France will 20 plans to retum.
“This infaraation was unre; Brunel as accually saying with Epscin in West Fal Beach. See
‘Banasink deposition, deposition tachment #16 ul 154-160 and 172-175; sec also pages from
Eputeints probation file evidencie lean Luc Brunel (JLB) staying at his house during that
relevant period of time utisched Exhibil “IF”, As 4 resull, Edwards Fed & Motion for Contenpl,
altached hereto as Tishibil “KK” (ecause Fpstein settled this case, the mation was ever nied
upon)
67. Talwadls was also informed hat Epstein paid for riot any BrensT's regneseniation
during the sivil proccss but also paid for logal reproscatation for Sareh Kellen (Epstein’s
exceutive assistant and prozaree of girls tor him 10 abuse), Larry Visoski (Fpsiein's personal
pile), Dave Rages {tpscein’s personal pilot), Lany Harrisan (psteio’s personal pitot), Louclla
Rabuyo (Epsicin’s housekeeper), Nadin Marcinkova (Fpstein's live-in sox shave), Ghidlaine
Viaxwell (marager of Epstein’s afiairs and businesses), Mark Epstoin (Epstein’s brother), and
Jaansz Banesizk (Fpsioin’s house manages) 11 was nearly impossible to take u deposition of
somepne that world have helpfol iaformation tha was nat represented hy an attames; paid for by
patein. Sec Edwards A%davit, Exbibit N" ac 11.
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65, While Epstein and ofbers were preventing any legitimate discovery into his sexu]
abuse of minor gids, al (he sume Gime he was engeging {trough his uliammeys) in beadal
questioning of the girls who hud filed civil suis wgainst him, questioning so savage cht it made
Toc! headtines. See Jane Musgrave, Viciines Seating Sex offender's Millions See Fainfid Pasts
Used Agains! Them, Pim Beach Post Nows, Jan 23, 200, available at
Tuten paimbeachpost coms nowsieriuiefvietims-saekinp-sex-offonders-millions-see-puinful-
pasts: 192988, um luck iereto 25 Fxhibit “LL
Edwards Pursues Other Lines of Discovery
69. Because of Tpsiein’s thwarting of discovery and attacks on Tidwaads’s clicnts,
Fawards was forced to pursuc ofher avenues af discovery. Edwacds ony pursuod logitmate
discovery designed to fuler the cases filed against Epsicia. See Tdwards Affidavit, Exhibic
Nagi
0. Edwards nofified Fpscein’s atomays of his intent to lake Rill Clinan's deposition.
Edwards possessed 2 legidoawe basis for doing so: (4) Climon was fricnds with Ghisluine
Maxwell who was Epstein's lomgime companion and helped to nw Fpsisin's sompanies, kept
images of naked underage children or. her computer, helped ta recut ndorage children fur
Epstein, engaged in icsbimn sox with underage females thet she procured for Fpsiein, and
photographed underage females in sexually explicit poscs and kep! child pornography on har
corputer; (b) it was nasional news when Clinian traveled with Epstein aboard Epstein’s private
plan to Afrion ami lhe news articles classified Clinton ws Tipsiein's friend. (c) the complaint
fitéd on behalf of Jane Doc No. 102 stated generalty that she was required by Tipsicin 1a be
sexually expioiied by nol uly Kpsichn but also Bpsiein's “udell mele peers, including royalty,
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politicians, acadernicians, businessmen, andar other profession] and personal acgalntances”
estegories Clinton and avquainiances of Cliaton fall into. The fight logs showed Clinton
truveiing on Lpstein's plane on numerous occasions between 2002 and 2005. See Flight logs
attached hereto us Tixhibit “MM” Clinton traveled on many of those flights with Ghistatne
Maxwell, Sarah Kelfen, end Adriana Mucinsks, - all cmployors andor wa-corspinions of
Epstsin's that were losely onnooted lo Fpstein’s child exploitation and sexual sbuse. Lhe
documents clearly shaw that Clinton frequently flew with Epstein aboard his plans, then
suddenly stopoed - raising the suspicion that the [Fendship ubruptly ended, perhaps becouse of
vents related to Tpsisin’s sexual abuse of children. Kpscein's personal phon dircctery from his
computer contains ¢-uail addresses for Clinton slong with 21 phane marshes for hie, including
oso for big ussiatint (Doug end), his schedulers, and what appear to be Clinton's persons
nuanhers. “Fhis irformation ecrieinly loads one to believer lal Clinton might well he 4 soarce of
relevant information and ellorts Wo alitain discovery from him were reasonably calculated to lead
10 admissible evidence. See Exhibits “B”, “T” “AA”, “DD”, and “MM” and Tdwards Afidavit,
Exhibic“N" at 15.
7. Bradley J. Edwards, Esq., provided notice th hie infended ia teke the deposicion
of Donald Irursp. Edwinds pussessed a iegitimase hasis for doing so: () The message pecs
confiscsied from Epstein's bome indiestod that Trump called Epstcin's West Palm Reach
mansion on several oceusions during Ihe lime period most relevant to my Bcwards's chicos”
corpus: (b} Tru was quoted in a Vauiny Fair vile about Epstein us suing "Tve known
Jeff for fifteen years. Tomiie guy.” "Ho's a lol. of fan to be wit, Jt is even said that be likes
‘beaut: women as rch as 1 do, and many of them arc on the younger side. No doubt about it —
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Jelliey cnjoys his social Tif." Jollrey psn: Tnternz ion] Monesmnen of Mystery; Ho's pals
with 2 passe! af Nobel Prize-winning scientists, CHOS like Leslie Wenner of the Limited,
socilite Ghishyine Mua], even Denald Trump. But it wasn't uatil be flow Bill Clinton, Kevin
Spacey, and Chris Tacker m Africa on his privaie Dosing 727 that ihe world began to wonder
who 2c is. By Lendon Thomas Jr. (See article acached heroto as Exhibit “NN") (c) Tramp
llegsdly banned Fpsicin from his Marago Cid in West Pabm Beach beoauso Epstein sexually
assaulted an underage girl at the club; (dy Jane Doe No. 12's complaint alleged that lane Doc
102 was initially upprouched at Trump's Manilagy by Ghislaine Maxwell and rosruited to be
Mawel] and Kpscein's underage sex slave; (6) Mark Epstein (Jeffrey Epstein’s brother) testified
that Tromp Hew on Jeffrey Epstein’s plan with him (the sams plaue that Jane Dos 102 alloged
was used to have sex with underage girls); () Trump had been to I:pstein’s home in Palm Beach;
{g) Epsicin’s phone directory from his computer vontsins 14 pons numbers for Donald Trump,
including emergency aumbers, car numbers, and numbers 1 Trump's security guard and
‘houscouan. Based on this information, Edwards reasonebly belicved that Trump might have
melevant information to provide in the cases against Jeflrey Fpsiein end accordingly provided
motice of # possible deposition, Sve deposition of Murk Epstein, September 21, 2009, at 48-50
{Deposition Atiachment #19); See Jae Dos 102 v. Tpstein, Tahibit “B7 Tahibic “TF
Exhibit’), “N” and See Edswerds Affidavit, Exhibit “N” acy13.
72. Thwards provided notice ll fo intended Io depose Alm Dershowitz, Edwards
possessed a legitnate basis for doing so: (a) Dershawitz is believed to have been friends with
Tpsteir. for many years; (b) in one news ariel Dershowitz comments hes, “T'm an my 20h
ook... 1b ouly person ouside of my immediate funily that 1 send drafts to is Jeffrey” Lhe
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Talented Mr. Epstein, By Vicky Ward on Feawary, 2005 in Published Work, Vanity Fair (See
asicle attached us Tahibit “00%; () Bpstein's Touseheoper Alfredo Rodrigues testified Gua
Dershowitz stayed at Epstein's house during the years when Epstein wes assaiting minor
females on u daily basis: (0) Rodrigues lesiifed hal Dershowilz was st Tipsiein’s house al fimes
when uederage females where there being molested by Epstein (sce Alficdo Rodiigucz
deposition ai 278-280, 385. 426-027); (¢) Dershowitz reportedly assisted in allempling 10
persue the Peli each Stare Atomey’s Ollice thar hecasse the underage females alleged 1
‘have boca victions of Epsicin's abuse lacked credibility and could not be belioved thet they wore
al Tipstsin’s house, when Dershowitz limself was on eyewitness ta Uieir presence a the hase;
{61 Jano Doc No. 102 stated gocerally that Epstein forced her to be sexually exploited by not anly
Tipauein but ala Ppiein's “adult male peers, including royaley, policicians, academicians,
businessmen, andor ather professional and personal acquaintances” — catcgorics that Dershowitz
and ncquainéences of Dershowitz fall infor (2) during the years 2002-2005 Alan Dershovsitz, was
an Epswin's plans on several occasions according to the Aight logs produced by Epstoin's pilot
and information (deseribed hove) suggested that sexual wuulis may hove token place on the
‘plane; (h) Epstein donated $30 Million one year to the uuiversity at vihich Dershowitz teaches.
Based on this information, Tdwards hid a reasonable Susis (0 believe thal Dershowitz might
have velevint information tn provide in the cases against Jefliey bpstein and accordingly
provided notice of a possible deposition. See Dershowit lets 1o the Stace Atomey's office
attached as Exhibil “PP; Deposition of Alfiedo Rodriguez at 276-280; Flight Logs Exhibit
“MA; Eachibits “B” und “00”; end Edwards AMdavit, Exhibic N" at 14.
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3, Tipméin's camalaint elleges that Licwards provided rotice that he wished to take
the deposition of Tommy Mattols. Thet ssscrtion i untrue. Me. Mattolss deposition was set by
fhe fae firm af Searcy Denny Scaral Barnhart und Siripiey. See Hdvwards Aiavis, Exhibit "N”
ate.
74. Edwards gave nolice th he intended w (ake David Copperlields deposition.
Tidiarde possessed a legidimaue basis for doing sa. Epstein's housekeeper and one of the only
witnesses who did not appest for deposison with an Epslein bought uilomey, Allredo Rodrigues,
eile thu: David Copperfield was 8 guest at Epstei’s house on several oscasions. His name
aiso appears frecudurly in the messige pods confined om Fpstein’s base, Thus been
‘publicly reported that Copperfield himself as had allegations of sexual misconduct made against
Jin by women chaining he sexually sbused thew, and one of Epsicin’s soxual assault victims
also alleged thal Copperfield Tut touched her in an improper sexual way while she was at
Epsceia’s house. Mr. Copperickd likely has relevant information und deposition was rousomibly
calealated to 1:46 fo fhe diseavery of adinissible evidence. See Edwards Affidavit, Exhibit “N" at
nr.
75. Epson also takes issue with Randy identifying Bill Richardson as a poscible
witless, Richandson was properly identified as a passible witoss because Epstoin’s pessomil
pilot testified to Richzrdson joiming Epstein al Epsivin's New Mexizo Ranch, There was
information ilicating diac Epscain had young girls at his ranch which, given the circumstances
af the cass, raised the reasonable inference ho ws sexually abusing lbese ils he bud soused
girls in West Pulm Bech ural elsewhere. [ichasdsan had also retumed cempaign donations that
were given to ira by Epstein, indicativy that he believed (ha¢ there sas something shout Epstein
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with svhich He did pol want fo be associated, Ricliardson wis not galled to testify nor was be ever
subpoenaed to testify. See Edwards Affidavit, Exhibit "Nat 18.
6. Fauwards leamed of ullogations (bat Epstein engaged in soxu abtise of minors on
Nis grivate aircraft, See Jane Doe 2 Complaint, Exhibit “RB.” Accordingly, Tdwards pursued
discovery to confirm these allegations
77. Discwery of the pilot and Hight logs wis proger in he Gases brought by Edwards
against Epstein. Jane Doc filed a federal KICO claim against Epstein that wes an acive claim
ivaugh much of the iigation. The RICO claim alleged ‘hat Fpsicin ran #n expansive criminal
encerprise that involved ard depended upon his plane rzvel. Although Judge Marra dismissed
fhe RICO claim at some point in the federal Wfigation, the legal foam representing
Edwards’ clients intended to pursue an appeal of that diswnissal. Moteaver, all of the subjects
‘meitionsd in dhe RICO chim remsinzd relevant to other aspests of Jane Do's claims sygainst
Eptein, inchuding 1n particular fer claim for punitive damages. See lidveards Affidavit, Lhibit
NT ut 19.
4. Discovery of the pilot and Might logs was alo nroper in the cases brought by
Tdwards agrins Tpstein because uf the need (0 ubtain evidence of u ders] nexus. Edwards's
client Jane Doe was proceeding to tial an a federz! chain under 18 US.C. § 2255. Section 2255
is 2 federal starute which (unlike relevant state statutes) established a mina fevel of recovery
for vistinss of ie violulion of its provisions. Prosesdinyg under he shilute, however, tegiited a
“federal nexus” to the sexual assaults, Jang Dos had two grounds on whist to argue that such a
nexus existed to her abuse by Fsteins first, is use of telephone io armsnge for girls to be abused;
ad, socom, bis travel en plancs in interstate commerce. During the course of che firigation,
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Bdwards smticipeicd that Epstein would argue at Jane Dog's proaf af the lederal nexus was
imaitequate. These Fears were realized when kpstcia filed a summary judgment motion raistng
this argument, In response, th othr attomeys and Edwards representing Tene Doe used the
Dight log evidence 0 respond ta Fpsteins summary judgment motion, explaining that the flight
togs demonstuated that Epstein had waveled in interstate commerce for the purpost of fucilituing
is send wssaults, Because Fpstein chose 10 settle the case before trial, Judge Marra ti rio
rule an the summary judgment motion.
9. Rdwrds hail further remion tr believe and did in fic believe Ut We pilot and
Hight logs might contain relevant evidence for the cases ageinst Bpsicin. Jane Doc No. 102°
complaint outlined Epstein’s daily sexu] exploitation and abuse ol underage minum as young as
12 years oid and alleged that Lpsteit's plane was used to mamsport underage females to be
sexually abused by him end his friends. The fight logs accordingly were a potential source of
information about either additional giels who were victims of Epstin’s abuse or friends of
Epstein who may hove witmessed or even parficipaled in the abuse. ised on Mis
information, Tdwards reasonably pursued the flight logs in discovery.
80. In the full of 2009, Epstein gave a record interview Io George Rusk, a reparier
willl the New York Duily News abot pendicg legal proceedings. In that intorvic, kpsisin
demonstrated an utr Jack of remorse for his crimes (but indiretly admitted fi crimes) hy
Stating:
«People do nor ke it when people make good snd that was one reason be (Tpstein)
was being tacgeted by civil suits filed 3 yourg girls in Floric;
«He (Epstein) bud dane nothing wrong:
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» He (Epstein) bad gone to il in Florida for soliciting srostitution for no reason:
«fie sare thing (i.e., sexua: abuse of minor girs) had happened ii: New York, hie
(Tpslein) vid have reseivesd ceil a S200 lie;
«Bradley J. Edwards was thc onc causing all of Epstoin’s probioms Gic., the civil
suits brought by Jane Doe and otber girls);
© LM. vane W bis as o prostitale 2nd & drug user (i.e., cane to Cpstein for sex,
rather than Epstein pursuing bor,
+ AT fhe girls suing hin re ony Irying to get 2 meal fickes;
+The ouly thing ic might have done wrong was to maybe cross fhe lin a litle too
closely;
+ He (Bpstein) was very upset thal Fdwars had subpoenaed Ghisline Miaviell, tht
she was good person that did nothing wrons (i.c., had dans nothing wrong oven
though she helped procure young girls to satisfy Epstein’s sexual desires);
+ With regard fo Jane Doe 102 v, Epstein, which involved an allegation that tpsiein
ud repeatedly sexually ebiised u L5-yeur-uid girl, forced her to have sex with Dis
frionds, and ow her ou bis private ple nationally and intemstionally for the
purpases of sexually maiesting and abusing hes, he (Epstein) Hippaatly said that
the tase was dismissed, indicating that the allegations were ridiculous and untrue.
See Affidavit of Michael J. Kisten attached hereto es Exhibit “QQ.”
1. Tho Rush interview nlso demonstrated perjury {a federal crime) an the part of
Kpstein. Hpstein fied about not knowing George Rush. See Epstein Deposition, February 17,
2010, taken in LM. v. Joffrey Bpstein, case S0-2008-CA-028051, page 154, ine 4 through 155
line 9, (Deposition auactnest #7), wherein Jeffrey Epstein clearly impresses that he docs not
recognize George Rush from fic New York Daily News, This improssion was given despite the
Fact that he uve a lengthy personal interview 2bout denails of che case thet was tape cceorded
with George Rush,
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Eppstain's Havessingss of Witnesses Against Him
82. ACAI releyam times Tiwards has a good fnith basis 1a believe snd did in fact
“etieve Mat Epsizin engaged in threatening witnesses. See Incident Report, Exhibit “A” at. K2,
TS. Attomey’s Cozrespondancs, Exhibit “C" - Indictments drafted by Fedoral Government
gain) Fpsisin: and Flwards AMdavir, Exhiiu “Nai 11.
83. Despite thio no contact orders entered ageinst Epstein (see Exhibit C, supra),
Talwards Terma fal Fpsiin continued 1 harass hi victims. For example, Jane Doe hid a tind
set for her civil case against him on July 19, 2010. As that trial date approached, defendant
‘Epstein intimidated her in violation of fhe judicial no-contwst anders. On Tuly 1, 2016, he but x
“private investigator” tail Jane Doe . following ber every move, stopping when she stopped,
diving wien she drove, refusing 10 puss when she pullad over, When Tune Doe ullimulely drove
20 ber bore, the “private luvestigator™ then paced in bis car approximately 25 feet from Jane
Doc house 2nd deshed bis biga bom lights inlermilicaly into the home. yen more
hireateningly, at about 1:30 pont, shea Jace Doe fled ber bame in the company of a reticed
police officer cnployed by Jane Doe's counsel. the “private investigator” atempicd tw follow
Jane Dos despite a request rat 10 do <9. The retired oflicer sucessfully tank evasive action and
placed Jone Doe in a secure, undisclosce location the night, Ocher harassing actions against
Jive Toe asa fallawed. See Motion for Content fled by Twands in Jane Doe v. Fpstein
cetalling the event, including Fisten Affidavit atrachod to Motion, Composite Exhibit “RR
Epstein Settlement of Civil Clans Againsi Wien fir Sesvol Ales of Children
81. Ihe civil cases Edwards filed against Epstein on bebalf of LM, EW, and Jane
Te were ewsucably perueived by Tunis be very song cases. Because Gostein bad
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sexually assole these ils, he had comrmitied several serious tons agaiost team and would be
Jiwble to then for appropriate damages. See Preceding Undisputed Faces. Because of the
outrageousnass of Epstein's scxvul ubuss of minor girls, Edwards reusoribly expected that
Epstein wauld also be liable for punitive duiages io the girls. Because Pdwards could show thal
Epstein had molested children for years and designod a complax premeditated scheme to procure
differeu minors everyday lo safisly his eddistinn 10 sex wilh minors, fhe punitive damages
woul have to he sufficient to deter him fram this illegal conduct chat he had engaged ia daily for
years. Epsein was nd is w billionwive, See Complainl, 49 (referring 10 “Palm Beach
Dillion’); see oso Epsein Deposition, February 17, 2010, at 172-176 (Deposition
Attachunsat #7) (taking the Fifth whe asked whether le fs # billionaire). Accordingly, Fawards
reasonably believad the punitive damages tha would have to be awarded agaiust Epstein would
have bon subscantial cough to punisk hin severely enough for bis past conduct ss well us deter
him fram repeating his offenses in the fiture. See lidwacds Affidavir, kxhibit “N° at 419.
85. On Joly 6, 2010, rather thon face tried for the civil suits that had bren filed ugeinst
him hy 1M, 15%. andl June Doe, defendant Epstein setled the cases agaiost him. “The terns of
the settlement are confidential. The sctuloment mounts sm bighly probative ia the instant action
as Tpstein buses his claims (hal Tidvaards was involved in the Ponzi scheme on Epstein inability
so sewde dhe LM, K.W., and Jane Doe cases for “minimal value". His continod inability to
settle the claims for “mini value” aller the Poni scheme was uncavered would be highly
probative in discrediting any causal relationship between the Ponzi scheme and Edwarés's
scitloment neguistions. See Edwards ANidavil, Exhibic“N" au 21,
Fd ards Sion Invotvenent in Frovd by Scott Rothsteir
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86. From in or ubuut 2005, rough in or sboet Novennber 2009, Scot: Rotlsteir
appears In lave run agian Poni scheme at his law fires of Rothstein, RosenZzldt and Adler P.A.
(“RRA”). This Ponzi scheme involved Rothstein flscly informing investors that settlement
agreements bud been reached wilh putative defendants hased upon claians of sexual hacassment
andor whistle-blower actions. Rorbstein falsely informed the iavestors that the potentiel
settlement agrecments wore wvailible for purchase. Plea Agreement at 2, United Sates v. Senit
¥. Ruibsivin, No. 9-60331-CR-CONN (8.0. Fla. Jan. 27, 2010) attached bereto as Exhibit “SS.”
87. It has bem alloged that son ofher ses that Rolbistein used 1 lure investors
Sula his Ponzi scheme were he cases against Epstein that were being handied by Bradley J.
Edwards, sq. Edwards had no knowledge of the fiwud or any such use of the Fpslein cases. Sex
Edwards Affidavit, Fxhibil “N” a 49.
8% Bradky J. Edwards, Esq., joined RRA in ubout April 2009 and Ted RRA in
November 2009 - a period of less than one year. Edwards would not have joined RRA od he
heen aware that Scott Rothstein was running a giant Bond scheme al the Grn, Tihwards left
RRA shortly efter Leeming of Rothstein's [rauduleant scheme. fd. 2:48.
9. Auno time prior to the public disclosure of Rothstcin’s Pond sche did Fwands
Know or Live Tessun 10 beieve bul Rotlictein was using legitinaee claims that Edwards was
rsecuting sgainst Epstein for any frandult or othorwiso illegitimate purpose. Jd. ut 0.
90. Edwards never substantively discussed the merits of any of his three cases againse
Tpstein with Roflistein. See Deposition of Bradley 1. Edwards token March 23, 2010, at 110-16.
{horcinafior “Edwards Dopo) (Deposition Atiachment #22),
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91. On July 20, 2010, Bradley Edwards recived a letier from fie LS. Atamey’s
Office for the Southern District of Florida the office responsible for prosecuting Rotbscin's
Por scherne. “The lettec indicated that law coforsement agencis hil determined that I1ewards
was “a victim (or polentisl violin” off Scott Rothstein's federal crimes. The ltr irformed
Edwards of his rights as a vier of Rothstein's fraud and promised to keep Rewards informed
about subsequent developments in Rofisiein’s prosecution. Ske Letter attached hereto as Exbibic
wr
92. lefiey Epstein filed # complaint wilh he Florida Dar against Bradley Edwards,
Est., teising wlegations (hat Bdwards and others were involved in the wrongdoing of Scout
Rothsiein, After investigating the claim, dh Florida Bar dismissed this complaint. See Edwards
Affidavit, Exhibit “N” nt §23.
Fpsiein Toke de £431 When Asked Substantive Onesticns About Tis Cluims Against awards
93. On March 17, 2010, defendant Lpstein was deposed about his lawsuit gaint
Edwards, Rather than answer substantive questions about his Tawsuit, Fpsiein repeatedly
invoked his Fifth Amendment privilege, Sve Lpsieia Depo. taken 317/10, Deposition
Attpchment #1
94. In his deposition, Epsicin took the Fifth rather than aaswer the question:
“Specifically what sre the allegations against you which you contend Mr, Edwards inne up?”
1d aaa,
95. I bis deposition, Lpsteia took to Fifi rathor them name people in California tat
Lidwauds had ried to depose to incon the settiement vee af tha civil suit he was bandling,
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96. nis deposition, Tpsteir: Iook he Fiflh rather than answer the question: “Do yau
now fore President Clinton personally.” J.
© 97. Inkis deposition, Fpstcin took the Filth rather then answer the azstion: “Are you
‘nav selling us that there were claims against you that were fabricated by Mr. Edwards? /d. at
39.
98. Tu lis deposition, Iipsiein 10ak the Fifts rather than answer the question, “Well,
which of br. Edwards’ cases do you contend were Sibricated.” Id.
99. In his deposition, Gpszzin walk the Fifth rather thon answer the question: “What is
the accual value that you contend tho claim of EW. aginst you has?” Jd. at 45.
100. Tn his deposition, Epstein Wok the Filth rather ran answer a question about the
‘acoua value of the cla of LM. and Jae Doe against him. fd.
101. Inhis depositiun, taken prior to the settlement of Edwards's clients claiuns against
Epstein, Epstein took the Fifth rather than wnswer the question: “Ts here any pending cliim
aginst you which you contend is ibriceted?” 14. 2.71.
102. to his deposition, Epstein took the Fifth rather thar, answer tle question: “Did you
ever have demaging evidence in your gerbage?” J. al 74.
103. Tn his deposition, Epseln took the Fifth rachoe thon suswer the question: “Did
sexual assaults evar take place on a private airplane on whith yors were a passenger” 4d. at RX.
104. In his deposition, Epsteia took the Fifth ratber than auswer the question: “Docs a
flight log kept for a private jor used by you contain he murs of welebrifies, dignitaries ar
internation? figures?” it an 89.
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105. Tn bis éepusition, Tpsicin tok the Tifth cuther them smswwet the question: “Have
you ever socialized with Donald Truap is the presence of females wnder the age of 182” 1d, ul
59.
106. Tn his deposition, Tseein tack he Til raiber fan answer he question: “Iie
‘you ever socialized with Alan Dershowitz in the presence of fomsles under the age of 18." £4. at
90.
07. In his deposition, Epstein took the Fifth rather than answer she question: “lave
you ever socialized witl Mr, Mottola in the presence af femsles umer the age of 187° 7d, st 91-
2.
£08. Bn bis deposition, Fpstein took the Fith rather than ams the question: “Did you
ever socialize with David Copperfield in che presence of females under the sge of 167° /d. at
109. In his deposilion. Epstein look the Fifth rather than smswer the question: “Have
you ever socialized with Mr. Richardson [Govemor of New Mexico and formerly U.S.
‘Representative znd Ambassador to the United Nutions] in the presence of females under the age
af 18 Jd 93.
110. In his deposition, Epstein look the Fifth rethor than answer (he question: “Hive
you ever sexually abused children?” 1d. at 95.
111. Inhis deposition, Epstein took the Fifth rachor then answer the question: “Did you
uve stall members that assisted you in scheduling appainunenls with endeniye fernales; a is,
fearatas weder the age of 18. 1d. at 7-95,
112. Tn his deposition. Fpstein taok the Fifth iaher thar answer the questian; “On how
many occasions did yon solicit prosditution.” d. at 102.
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M2. In his deposition, Epstein took the Fiflh rather than answer lhe question: “Few
many minors have you procured for prosiiution?” Jd. at 104.
114. In his deposition, pstein took the Fifa rater then snswer che question: “Have
you ever cosrexd, induced or enticed any minor to emgage in wy sexual acl with you?” Td a
107.
115. In bis deposition, Epstein took the Fifth wafer hum answer the question: “How
‘mumy times Bave you engaged ir londling underage lemales?” 7d at 105.
116. 1a bis deposition, Epstein took the Fifth rather than answer the question; “Few
many times have you engaged i: oral sex wih females under the age of 182° 44, at 110.
7. 1a bis depositioe, Epstein took the Fifth rather than auswor the question: “Do you
haven personal sexual preferences fur illest?” 1 a 111-12
118. Tn his deposition, Epstein wok the Fifth rather than answer the question: “Your
Complaint st page 27, puragrah 49, says that "RRA ard tae litigation team wok an emotionally
driven set ol fects involving alleged innacent, unsuspecting, underage Somales and a Palm Beach
Dillicasice, 26d sought to tum it info a paldmine, end of quote. Wha is the Palm Beach
illionsire refined 10 in that seatence?” 14. at 112-13
119. In his deposicion, Epstein ook the Fifth rues than answer he question: “Who ace
ihe people who are authorizel la make paysest [10 your lawyers] ou your bebalf?” 44. at 120.
120. 1n bis deposition, Epstein took the Fifth rather than answer the question: “Ts flere
inylling; in 1.M.’s Complaint. that was. filed against you In September of 2008 which you
contend to be false?” id at 128
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Kenneth W. Star. Joe D. Whitley
Kirkland & Ellis LLP Alston & Bird LLP
777 South Figuerna Street “The Atlantic Buikfing
Ls Angeles, C3. goaa7-3500 050 F Sirset, NW.
May 19, 2008
sua pacsivir CONFIDENTIAL
Honorable Mark Filip
Office of he Deputy Attomey General
United States Department oi Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avene, NW
Washington, D.C. 20530
Dear Tudge Filip:
In His confirmation hearings last fll, Judge Mukasey admirably lifted up the finest
traditions of the Department of Justice in assuring the United States Senate, and the American
peopl, of bis solemn inten to ensure fairness wd ntegeity in the dministration of justics. Your
awn confirmation hearings cchoed that bedrock determination to ase that the Deparment
wanduet sell with honor and integrity, cspcially in the enforcement of federal criminal lav
We come 10 you in that spirit und respeetfully ask for a review of the federal involvement
in a quintessentially stare matter involviag our client, TelTeey Tatein. While we are well avare
of the arc instances in which a review of this sort is justified, we are confident thal lhe
wireumstances al issue warmaut such an examination. Bascd on our collective experiences, ax
well a those of viber former savior Justies Department. officials whese advice we Lave sought,
we hae never before seen 1 case more upproprini for oversight and review, Thus, while neither
of us has previously made such a request, we Go Sa now in the recognition that both thc
Department’ reputation, as well as the due process Hghts af aur efieat, are ul issue.
Recently, the Criminal Division concluded a very limited sexiew of tix maller 1 the
roquest of US. Atlomcy Alex Acosta. Critically, however, this review deliberately excluded
many important aspects of this case. Just his past Friday, on May 16, 2008, we received 2 letrer
rom the head af COS informing us thul CEOS had conducted a review of this case. By ifs own
admission, the CEOS review was “limited, hath Fecuuslly and legally.” Pert of the self-imposed
Limitacion was CHOS’s abstention from addressing our “allegations of professianal misconduct
by foderal prosocutors™—cven though such misconduct was, as we contend it is, inextricably
intertwined with the eredibiliy of the accusations being made against Mr. Epstein by the United
States Attamey’s Office in Miami (“USA”), Morenver, CEOS did nol assess fhe femss of the
Defecced Prosecution Agreement aow in effect, nar did CEOS ceview the federal prosecutors’
inappropriate efforts to implement those ters. We detail this point below
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Honorable Mark Filip
May 19, 2008
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By way of hackgraund, we were informed hy Mr. Aosta thal, ul bis request, CFOS
would be conducting a review to determine whether federal prosecution was hoth appropriate
aud, in his words. “xr That is not whet oscurred. stead, CEOS has now acknosslodgsd that
we had raised “many compelling arguments” agaist the USAQ's suggested “novel application”
af Federal Tu in (hin mater. Fen so. CROS concluded, ifs minimalist. shion, that “swe do nod
see anything that says to us categorically that a federal case shauld nat he brought” and that the
U.S. Atomey “would uot be abusing his prosecutorial discretion should be authorize federal
‘prosscurion of Mr. Epstein” thus delogating back to Mr. Acosta the decision of whather federal
‘prosceution was warranted (emphasis added). Rather (hen assessing whothar proseution would
he appropriate, CEOS, using a low haseline for i evaluation, determined ondy thal “il would rot
be impossible 10 prove . . * certain allegations made agaiod Mr. Epstsin. The CEOS review
failed to address the significant problems involing the appescance of impermissible selectivity
that vould necessauily result fom a federal prosceution of Mr. Epstein
Wo rospoet CEOS's conclusion that is authority fo seview “misconduel issucs wes
precluded by Criminal Division practice. We furlber respect CFOS's view thal i understood its
missian us signiticantly limited. Specifically, the contemplated objective was to determine
whether the USAQ would be abusiag its discretion by bringing a federal prosecution rather than
making ifs own de novo recommendations on the appropriate reach of federal law. However, we
respectfully submit thal a full review af all (he Jucts is urgenily needed ul serior levels of the
Juste Depuriment, Tn an effort to inform you of the nature of he fedecal investigation apainst
Mi. Tpstein, we sucimarize the facts and circumstances of this matter below.
he two base-level concerns we hold are that (1 federal prosecution of his mavir is not
waared based on the purcly-local conduct and the upreesdenicd ‘spplication of faders]
Starutcs to Fels such os these und (2) the sisioms of federal uulhorilies are hoth highly
questionable and give rise Lo an unpearunce of substantial impropriety. “The issues that we bave
mised, but which have not vet been addressed or sesolved by the Department, ae more than
isolated allegations of professional mistakes or misconduct. These issucs, instead, affect the
appearance ond administracion of criminal justico with profound consequences beyond the
resolution in the matter at hand,
« . .
Tn n precedent shattering investigation of Jeffrey Epstein that raises important policy
‘questions. and serious issues as to the fair and honorable enforcement of foderal law—tic
USAQ in Miami is considering extending federal Jaw beyond the bounds of precedent and
season. Feder proseenors sivekhed (he underlying facts in says that raise fundamental
questions of busic pro lessionalivm. Perhaps most roubling, the USAQ in Miami, as & condition
of deferring prosecation, required a commingling, of substantive federal criminal law with a
praposed eivil remedy engiueered in a way that appears intended to profit partsular lawyers in
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Honorable Merk Filip
May 19, 2008
Page
private practice in South Flocida with personal relasianships 10 sure of the proseculims imvalved.
Federal prosecutors then leaked highly sensitive information about the case ta a New York
Times reporter. The immediste result of this confluence of cxtmaordinary circumstances is an
omdaught of civil lawsuits, all save anc brought by the First Assistant's former boutique baw fim
in Miami.
the facts In this case all revolve arownd tie classic site crime of” salicilaion of
prostitution? The State Atomey’s Office in Palm Beach County had conducted a diligent
insesligation. convened « Grand Jury that returned an indictment, and made a final determination
ahaut how Un procesd. That is where, in our fidleral republic, this master should rest,
Mr. Epstein faces a felony conviction in state court by via of his conduet and the only resan
the State has not resolved this matter is that the federal prosecutors in Miami have condmed to
insist that wo, Mr. Epstoin's counscl, approach and demand from the Stato Attomes’s Office
‘unher charge and a more severe punishment thn that Office believes wre appropriate under the
circumstances. Yet despite the USAO'S refusal 1 ullow lhe State fo resolve this matter on lhe
terns the Sute has deteried are appropriate, the USAQ has not made ang aempt to
coordinate its cfforis with the State. In fact, the USAC mandated that any federal agreement
would be conditionsd on Mr, Epsicin persuading the Stats 10 seck a criminal punishuncat unlike
tha imposed on ober defendants within the jurisdiction of the Ste Allomey for similar
conduct
Fron the inception of the USA involveanent in this case, which at the end af the day
is a case about solicitation of prostitution within the confines of alm Beach County, Florida, we
have asked ourselves why the Department of Justice s involved. Regrettably, we arc unable to
suggest any appropriate basis for the Deparhnent's involvement, Mr. Epstoin has no crimind
history whutsocver, Also, Me. Bpsicin has never been (he subject of general media interest until
afew years ago, alien if was widely perceived by the public that he was a clase friend of formes
President Bill Clinton.
“Ihe conduct at issue is simply nor within the purvicw of foderal jurisdiction aud Lis
outside the heartland of the thros federal statutes tha bave been identified by prosccurs—I3
US.C. §§ 1591, 2422(b), und 2423(b).
I One ofthe otser membres of Mr, Es defuse ea, Jay Danie, ns perl evinced th reurees’s
Sontamporancous acs.
2 Akbongh some of tbe women lisged to be volved sere 16 und 17 years of age, several of ese omer
enly mbt bs ying Uo Me, Epstein abot the’ sg. inter roca: wom statcmerts
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Tonuruble Mark Filip
May 19,2008
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These stanutes ae intend Lo turgel crimes of n uly national and Internationa? scope.
Specifically, § 151 was enacted 10 combat human Gallicking, § 2422 is aimed at sexual
‘predation of minors through the Internet, and § 2423 deals with sex tourist. The malure of these
erie resus in multi-jurisdictional problerns that state and local authorities caunct effectively
coativn on dreir own. However, Mr. Fpsiein's conduct was purely local in nature and, thus,
docs not implicze federal involvement. After researchiog every reporked case brought under 18
USC, §§ 1591, 2422(b), and 2425(b), we found that not a single case involves facts or @
seerio similar to the situacion at hand. Our review of each precedent reflects that there hve
been na reported prosecutions under § 1591 of a ‘ohn’ whose conduct with 2 minor lacked
force, coercion, or fraud and who seas not profiting from commercial sexual trafficking. ‘There
have likewise been no cases undec § 2423(b)—a ime vf communication—whers there was 50
use of the Internet, and where the corrent of phone communications did not contain amy inducing
or enting of a minor 10 have legal sexust scrivity as cxpressly required by the language of the
State. Furthermore, the Government's conlention thet “routine and habit” can fill the factual
and legal void created hy the lack of evidence thal wh a comemunicalion ever occurred sets this
‘case apart thom every reported case brought under § 2422{b). Lastly. there are no reported cases
of violations of § 2423(b) of a person whose dominant purpose in traveling was merely 1 80 tu
his awn home.”
Although ese madters were within the scope of Gre CEOS review, miber than
considering whether fedeal prosecution is appropeiate, CEOS only determined that U.S,
Atomic Acosta “would not be abusing his prosecutorial discretion should he authorize federal
prosceulion” in this case. The “abuse of discretion” standard constitutes an extremely low bar of
valuation amd while iL may be appropriate when the consideration of issucs are exclusively
factual in nature, thi standund fails 1 address cuncems particular lo this situetion, namely the
“navel application” of Tederul statutes, The “abuse of discretion” sundard in such pure legal
mateers of stawsory application risks causing a lack of wiformity. The same federal states that
would be stretched beyond their bounds in Miami have been limited to their hearcand in each of
the other federal disteicts. Also, because this case implicates broader issucs of the admiuistiation
of eyusl justice, federal prosecution in (his mutter risks the appearance of selectivity in its
Siceiching of Tederal law ta i these facts,
3 Fodural prosoemion of 8 ean who sngeged im coserssal cent i his homs that amontcd a, ct most he
limon uf prov:tulion, is unprocalented. Sino prtiion is fdocnually s sole concer, (sc Cried
State. vas, 476 F.3d 1176.11 (11 Cie. 2007) feral Ls “docs not crminizs a acs of eosin tc.
vie rally gover by sre egulion) , 4 her i 1 evidencs Fi Val: lath Cours avr
3nd Floi<a prosecutors canon SHScivly proces 13d pich the onde, Coes 5 10 reason why dis maz
naa be enacted funn ue Funds of sae prosecutors in Flrida,
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Honorable Mark Filip
May 19.2008
Page 5
Tn fact, recsat testimony of several alleged “victimy™ coniradiots claims made by “ederal
prosecutors during the negotiations of a deferred prosecution agreement. The consisicar
representations of key Gavernment witnesses (such as INN p— EN
EE od EE) firm the following critical points: First, thece was na
‘communication, tclophonic or otherwise, thal meets the requiretnents of § 2422(b). For instance,
Ma Gonzalez confirmed that Mr, Epstein never emailed, text-messaged, or used any facility of
interstate commerce whatsoever, before or after her one (and only) visit to his home, IEEE
“Iv. deposition) at 30. Second, the vimen who tostificd admitted! that they ied to Mr. Fpsicin
about their age in orcler to gain admittance into his home. Indeed, the women who brought their
underage fiends to Mr. Epstein testified that they would counsel their friends to lie abou their
ages wr vel, IN stated the following: “1 would tell my girlfriends just like INN
approached me. Make sure you elf him you're 18. Well, these girls that T brought, T know that
they were 18 07 19 ar 20. And the girls that T didn't know and { don’t know if they were lying, or
not, | would say make sure that you tell him you'ro 15.” INS 1rd, there was uo
touting or habit of improper communication expressing an lent to transform a massage into an
jllezal sexual act, In fact, there vias often no sextal activity al ail during the massege. I
rr fied that “[sJometimes [Mr Epsteing just wanted his feel massaged. Somclimes he.
Just waited a hack mas.” I I ::o siaicd Gi Mr. Fysicin
“never touched [her] physically” und that all she did was “massags[ | his back, his chest and his
thighs and thar was ir” protektel Finally, then: was 10 force, coctcion, fraud,
violence, drugs, or even alcohol present in connection with Mr. Fpsécin’s crequntars with these
ssormen. INN stated that “Mr, Epstein] never tied t force me 10 do anything.” IES
Wc 12. These acuounls are fur from the usual testimony in scx slavery, Itesmet stings and sex
tourism cases previously brought. The wae in neluslily were not younger than 16, which is
the age of consent in most of the 50 states, ard the sex activily wus imeguler and in largo pert,
consisied of solo sclf-ploasuring,
The recent erop of civil suits brought against Mr. Epstein confirm that the plainills did
nol. discuss wy sexlly-reluted activities with anyone prior to arriving at Me. Epstein’s
residence. This reinfucces aur cantention That no telephonic or Entcmot persuasion, inducement,
enticement or coercion of a minor, or of any atber individual, veeurrsd. Tn addition. Mr, Jeffrey
‘Herman, the former law partner of one of the federal prosecutors invulved in this muller end the
aftomey for most of the civil complainaits (as described in decal below), wiss yuote in the Palm
euch Post us saying that *it docsn’l matter” that bis clicuts licd about their ages and told Mr.
Epstein that they were 18 or 19.
Not only is u federal prosecution of this maker umwarreored. but the irregularity of
conduct by prosecutors and the unorthodox terms of the deferred prosecution agreement arc
beyond any reasonable interpretation of the scope of a prosecutor's respamsibilities. The list af’
impropriclics includes, but is not limited to, the Following fits:
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Honoris Mak Filip
May 19,2008
Page 6
+ Mederal prosecutors made the unprecedented demand thaw Mr. Epstcin pay a
minizun of $150,000 per person to an unnamed List of women: they referral 10 1
minors and whom they insisted required representation by a guardian ad litem. Mr,
Tpuicin's counsol later establistied that ull bul one of these individuals were actually
adlis, nal minors. Even then, though demanding payment to the women, the
USAQ eventually wssertcd that it could not vouch for the verusity of any of the
chairs that these tore might make.
* Federal prosecutors made the highly unusual dernind that Mr. Epstein pay the fees
of a civil atlomey chosen by the prosecutors w represent. these ulloged “victims”
should they chowse lo bring any civil litigarion against hien. They also proposed
sending a Retice to the wllegod “victims,” stating, in an underlined sentence, that
should they choose their own attomey, Ms. Fpsivin would not be zequired 10 pay
Orci fees. The prosceutors further demanded thal Mr. Fpsicin waive his sight to
challenge any o the aflogations made by these “victims.”
«the Assistant US. Attomey involved in this matter recommended for the civil
aitvmey, a highly lucrative position, un individual that we lamer discovered was :
clasely wd personally connected 1 the Assistant 11.5. Atiomeys avn boyicnd.
+ Federal prosecutors represented to Mr, Epstein’s counsel that they had identified
{and later rechecked and re-identified) several alleged “victims” of federal urimes
that qualified for payment under 18 US.C. §2255, a civil romody designed 10
provide financial benefits to victims. Only through state discovery provisions did
we later Team that any of the women 0p the rechecked “victim Ji” could not
possibly qualify under §2255, The reason is that they, theonselves, texified that
they did not suffer any type of hrm whatsoever, a prerequisite for the civil recovery
under § 2255. Moreover, these women wale thal they did not, now ot in the past,
vonsider themselves to be victims,
+ During the lust for months. Mr. Homan, First Assistant Sloman’s former law
patter, has filed several civil lawsuits against Mr. Epstein on behalf of the alleged
“victims It is our understanding tha cach of Mr. Herman's ofieats ace on the
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Honorable Mark ilip
May 19, 2008
Puge 7
Government's confidential “ist of victims” Most of these lawsuits seek $50
million in money damages.
o Assistant US. Atomey David Weinstein spoke sbout the case in great detail to
Landon Thomas, a reporter with the New York Times, und revealed confidential
information abou fhe Government's allegations against Mr. Epstein. The Assisint
USS. Aliamey also revealed the substance of confidential plea negotiztions.
+ When comsel for Mr. Iipstein campluined uboct lhe media Leaks, First Assistant
Sloman responded by asserting that “Mr. Thomas vas given, purseunt to his
neque], mon-csi specific snformstion concerning spocific federal statutes.” Based
00 Me. Thins’ comtemporancons noes, that assertion appears fo be false. Tor
example, Me. Weinstzin tald Mr. Thomas that federal aullioritics beicved that
Mr. Epstein bad lized girls over the telephone and traveled in interstate commerce
for (be purpose of engaging in underage sex. Li recounted 1 Mr. Thoms the
USA0's teary of prosecution against Mr. Epstein, replete with an analysis of the
Key statutes Being considered. Furthermore, nfler Mr, Epstei's defense teas
complained about the leak w the USAO, Mr. Weinslein, in Mr, Thomas’ own
description, then admonished im for talking Lo the defeme, and gelling im in
trouble. Mr. Weinstein further told him not <0 believe the “spin” of Mr. Tpuiein’s
“high-priced «tomeys,” and then, according to Mr. Thomas, Mir. Weinstein
forcefully “reminded” Mr. Thomas that all prior conversations were merely
hypothetical.
We are constrained to conclude that the actions of federal affivialy in hiv case ike al
he heart of onc of the virally importans, enduring vohnes in this county: the honest enforcement
of Tideral law, free of political considerations and free of the wim of personal finaugial
motivations on the part of federal prosecutors thet, at 4 minimum, rise the sppearsnce of serious
impropriety.
We were told by LS. Atiomey Acosta that as part of the review he requested, the
Department had the authority, and his consent, ta inake any determination it deemed appraprians
regarding this muier, including decision to decline federal prosseution. Yt, CEOS's only
camclusion, based um fs limited review of the insestigation, is thal US. Atiomey Acosta would
not abase his discretion by proceeding ugainst Mr. Epstein, Thus, the decision of whither
4 us ecently 5 wo moots og, Mr. Sloman was still ised pubic 08 3 pt of Nia formar “a firm. Wha we
seams his wis an wearighh, i, Swan's, erica, ae par 6° he fit ices the appeRTaDce oF
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May 19.2008
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prosecution is fair and appropriate has been placed, ance again, in U.S. Attorney Acost’s
In light of the foregoing, we respectfully ask that you review this matter nd discontinue
would grealy appreciate the OppOTRITY 10 eet with yan W discuss those imporant issues.
Such a meeting would provide the Departeacnt with an opportunity to review the parmouat
issues of federalism und the uppeanince of seloctivity thar are generated hy the unprecedented
atrompts to broaden the amhit of federal staiutes to places that they have never before resched,
We sincerely appreciate your attention ta this maller.
Respectiully submitted,
AP SL, ii
Kenncth W. Starr Toe D. Whilley
Kirklund & Ellis LLP Alston & Mid LTP
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Honorable Mark Filip
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United States Department of Justice
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Washington, D.C. 20530
Dear Judge Filip:
“This letter briefly supplements our priar submission 1 you dsted May 19. 2008. 1a that
communication, we urgently requested that your Oflice conduct i independent review of the
proposed federal prosecution of ow client, Jeffrey Epstein. ‘Ihe dual reasons for our rust that
you review this matter are (i) the bedrock need for integrity in the enforcement af federal
crimiual laws, wid (iD) the profound questions raised by the unprecedented extension of feders]
law by the United States Attorneys Oftice in Miami (fhe “USAO™) to a promincat public figure
who has close tes to former President Clinton.
The need for review is now all the more exigent. On Manday. May 19, 2008, First
Assistant Jeffrey Sloman of the USA responded to an email from Jay Lefkowitz informing [1.S,
Anomey Alex Acosta that we would be seeking your Officc’s roview. Mr. Sloman’s letier,
which imposed a deadline of June 2, 2008 tv comply wilh all the forms of the current Non-
Proscoution Agreement (the “Agreement”, plus nev unilateral modifications, on pain of being
deemed in brench of that Agrocment, appears to have been deliberately designed fo deprive us of
an adequate appartunity lo seck vour Office’s review in this mater.
‘The USAG's desire lv foreclose a complete review is understandable, given that the
Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section (“CEOS”) has already determined that our xubstuntive
agents togarding why a federal prosecution of My. Epstein is uot warranted were
“compelling” Howovsr. in contradiction to Mr. Sloman ussertion that CEOS had provided an
independent, de mavo teview, CEOS made clear that it did not do so. Indeed, CEOS declined to
examine several of the more troubling aspects of the investigation of Mr. Epstein, inchiding the
deliberate leak to the New York Times of mmcrous highly confidential wpests of the
investigation and negotiations between the parties as well as fh secant crap of civil lawsuits
filed agains! Mr. Epstein by Mr. Sloman’s former lav partner.
The unncecseery and arbitcarily imposed deadline set by the USAQ vas done withour aay
respect for the normal functioning and scheduling of stste judicial matters. 1 requires that
Mr. Epstein’s counsel persuade the Stale Atwmey of Palm Beach to issue a criminal information
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Honorable Mark Filip
May 27, 2008
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0 & charge that the Stale Allomey has not, despite a Iwo year investigation, determined be
appropriate. Mr. Epstein’s counsel must isa successiuly expedite a plea of guilty © tis charge
on a date prior to July 8, 2008, which is the date presently set by the state court Judge.
Further, the unnecessary deadline is cven more problematic because Mr. Epstein’s effort
to reconcile the stato charge and sentence with the terms of fhe Agreement Tequires an unwsusl
and unprecedented threatened application of federal Juv, Thus, it places Mr. Tpstein in fhe
Nighy usual position of having to demand that the Stale acquiesce To a more severe
punishment than it bad already detecmined was appropriate.
We have attempted 10 resolve these and other issues through the USAQ aud CEOS,
including raising our conoems about the USAQ’s inappropriate conduct with respect to this
matter. But those svemuos have now been shut down. Mr, Sloman’s Jeter purports to prohibic
any further contact between Mr. Epstcin’s defense team «nd U.S. Attomey Acosta, and instead
requires us 10 communicate with the USAQ ony though Vir, Sloman’s subardinases
While it pains 1s to say this, this misguided prosecution from the outset gives the
appearance that t may have been politically motivated. Me. Epstein is a highly successful, self-
‘made businessman and philantiuopist who catered the public arcs only by virtue of his close
‘personal association with former President Ril Clinton. There is lite doubt in our minds tha
the USAD never wuld have contemplated u prosecution in this: case if Me. Tipsiein sere just
another “John”
LS. Attorney Acosta previously has stated that he is “sympathetic” to our federalisn-
aclated concerns, but he bas taken the position that his authority is limited by enforcement
‘policics sel forth in Washington, D.C. As expressed in our prior communication to you, we
hefieve that complete und independent appraisal and resolution of this ease most appropriately
sould be undertaken by your Office—heyinning with the rescivsion ul the urhitnury, unbir, snd
unprecedented deadline that Mr. Sloman demands to have imposed in his tase. AL the very
least, sve would appreciate a tolling of the arbiteary timeline imposed on our client by the USA
in order to allow time for your office to cousider our request that yon undertake a review of this
cas.
Tharik you for your time and atesntion.
Respectfully submitted,
Kenneth W. Starr 16D. Whilley
Kiekland & Ellis LLP “Alston & Bird LL
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Case No. D¥-K0TI6-CIV-MARRAJOHNSON
TARE DOF #1 AND TANF DOE: #2,
Plaintitts,
vs.
Defendant,
Alan M. Dershowitz here replics in support of his Maton for Limited Intervention (Dk:
282). Prof: Deshowits’s only interest in joining this case is W strike the Fle. sensational and
irrelevant allegations against him. In is response {DE 290). the government compellingly st
forth the nimy rewons why Tae Toes £3 und #4 requed led over § yes aller the
commencement of the CVRA case. should be denied. Jane Dos 52's false allegations asainst
Prof. Dsrshowitz wore nol included in ber statment 10 the government, wore nol made 10 the
TE when she was initially contacted by thal agency. were not included in hee civil action uainst
Epstein in 2009, were not included in bor recorded interview with her attorneys in 2011 and were
mo included in her interview with the British press in 2011. These allegations firs appeared in
Jane Doc #37 Motion for foindoe in December 2014 {DE 279), and therefore have absolutely ao
relevance as Io whather hore was a CVRA violation when Epstein and fhe government exceed
the Non-Proseculion Agreement in September 2007. The request foe limited intervention was
initiated to give Dershowitz a vaice in the procoedings if and only if the Court allowed the
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Joinder of Jane Die 3 and her untimely allegations t he underlying CVRA case. Tf the Court
cefcets the pending motion for joinder (DE 279), then the Court should strike the scurrilous
allogations agaiast Dershowitz, of, alvermtively, deteanias the possible mootasss of his Mofion
Tor T mites] Tntervention. OF course, if the Court strikes the allegations uguinst him sua pode,
Prof. Dershowitz will withdeaw bis notion foc limited intervention. However, if the Court greets
Jane Toes #3 und d's motion for joinder, then Prof. Dershowits's mation for Tinted
intervention should be granted for such purposcs as may be appropriate including submitting a
motion 1 strike or other relisf, sa it 0 give him am apparlumity to defend himsell agains these
malicious aod false allsgations. ln Support of his Reply in Support af his Motion for Limited
Inervention, Prof, Dsrshowitz sites as follows:
Despite swearing under wath ta her falsehoods bout Prof. Tershawits, Tune Doe 3
steupales to justify hor defamations as having any relevance to the issucs in this procecding. Hee
Response fo Pro. Dendhonitz’s Motion for Limited Tntervantiom (IF 291) (herin “Respemse®)
offers no legitimate ceason for detaming Prot. Dershawitz in her Joinder Mation, and she has io
right to cominus to do so in this Court, Strikingly, the Response docs not explain why Jano Doe
#3, with un ubvious Financial motive for (brication of salswivus sccusations, waited glist
seven years to lob a stink bomb into a proceeding in which she has no nar to partcipare. The
Response: docs mes acaund for why Tune Dine #3 never mee nssertedl her accusations shout Prof.
‘Dershowity wntil a month ago, even though the alleged teansgeessions supposedly occured sams
fifloon years ago. Although ucither Janz Doo #3 por anyone cise had previously asserted any
imprper sexual contact with Prk. Dersowit, naw Jane Doe #3 cynically explsits the yoke of
victimhood to victunize others.
2
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Al bottom, June Toe #3's Response i nothing bu 1 paper-thin pasiche of conspinicy
theory and outright misneprescntation that cumbles upon examination. Invocations of the Fifth
Amendment by BOUPATY witaessss in Kospouse to innecuans questions about Prof, Dershowitz
ame suid 10 take on a “sinister cual™ yet the samme witnesses invoked their ght ugaina sell-
incrimination to almost evary question asked of them. icludime their parca’ names. Prof.
ershaitz, us pstein's lormer egal counsel, is ane of hundreds of peuple listed in un uddress
books pucloincd by Jeffrey Epstein’s erimunal butler, yet because Prof. Dershowitz's name ts
circled in the siddrass hak hy an unknown person for known ressams, the argument is made
that Peot: Dershowitz ast have sexually abused a minor. The teeord shows that while Peof
Dershowitz and Jano Doc #3 are both sparstely mentioned in the flight logs of Mr, Epsicin’s
private ple. they are ever listed on the sume fight. Plainly, in tun, falsely cluim tut
somehow Prof. Dershowitz single-handedly occhestiated the destiuction of logs without any
evidence of ability or pissibilily 10 do xi. The increasingly unfounded awcusarions und insulis
ane both sad and irmcspansible.
It is precisely this toxic mix of irrclevancy. malicious flschood. and empty accusation
Ura ustfies Pro. Delon’ intervention W, at les, scike the allegations gains him. June
Dos #3 never had any need to dea Prof. Dershowitz into this action besides to wrongfully use
his good mame ami intemational suture to stir up medi interest in her filing. This is
impertingace. plain and simple, and it has no place in this Cour. Prot. Dershowitz therefor
egos the Court to site allow hin to intervene to strike Jane Doc ¥37s defamatory allegations or
deny Tue hie 237% Joiner Motion so he is no longer ufforded the ability to we the docket of
this Court to defame athees without being held accountable and strike these allegations trom the.
record.
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IL Jane Doe #3's Continued Smears of Prof. Dershowitz
Demonstrate Tis Need ta Tntervene
Jane Doc #3 and hor counsels actions over the past mouth have confirmed thar Prof.
rershawily"s request for intervention Manda upon drmatically different cincumatunces han
other intervention motions in this case, or any other ease for that maner. Simply pu, the scope
and tenor of their stacks against Prof. Dershowitz die both in degree and in kind from ather
reputational mugggings conducted in the vase befare this Court. Nor is there single reported
decision in foderal case law in which the vitriol, severity, and length of the artacks agaist 1
monty approach thase levelled uguin Prof. Denhowity here. What hus hecome futher
apparent is that of Jans Dos +s Motion for Jainder is granted and Prof. Dershowitz is not
allowed a intervens, Jano Dac #3 and her counsel will proceed with their sttseks against him, sll
ne more emboldened with complete impunity.
While Jane Doc #3 asks to “prove” hr allegations against Prof. Dershowitz. she arpucs
punsisxically hat he does mot hve “any direct inlereat® in defending hese allegations. Tose,
sho dircers Prot. Dershowitz to defoad the allegations that she makes in a contrived lawsuit filed
by her awomeys against him in Broward County Circuit Court for defimation of them.
Mareover. the law cited by Proll Dershawils, including te Sockuan und Peniboes anes,
demonstrates a nocd and entitlement to intervene to vindicate his legitimate ropurstional interest
tht ma other purty is situated to protect. “The individuals righ ta the protection of his avn
good name reflects no more than our basie conecpt of essential dignity and worth of every
human being — x concept at the rool of any decent sysiom of ardred liberty...” Krineer v.
Ftation Holdings. fuc., 975 F.Supp. 2d 1247. 1260 (SD. Tha. 2013: quoting Spencer
Koma 523 US. 1, 24 0. § (1995) (Stevens, J, dissenting)
a
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Tn an effort 10 ite comirary Tw fs the Cour, Tame Toe #3 Response lakes remarkable
liberties in describing what is claimed to be the law ta Court. Foe example, the Respanse quotes
Ciliensay v. Westinghouse Elec. Corp, 115 ERD, 75, 74 (MA. Ga, 1957) for the proposition
that “witness” interest in lis reputation alone. does not constitute the reyuinal “interest
celating to the propurty or transaction which is the subject of the present action” necessary to
alli intervention ss a matter of eight.” Vet what bs excised from that quote through the ellipres
is the most crucial part of the case: “following a finding by a court thar he is not eredible™
Clits actually smd for the proposition thal wines cannot inlervene in case ws of right
the Const has found hit aot credible in one ar its orders. This finding kas never been mods a5
w Prof, Irshowitz cither in this Court, or in hundreds of ethors in which he has appeared,
TL. Jane Doe 53's Ties About Prof. Dershowitz.
Are Wholly [relevant to This Action
Meanwhile, Jane Doc #3 fails to come up with a single credible reason for naming Prof.
Thershrsits in her Toinder Malian. First she claims she needed 10 drag Brai. Dershawils"s name.
theough the and to prove that Jane Doc 43 was a vietin of sexual abuse by Joffecy Cpstoin. Yet,
in hot Joinder Motion, she siafss that “[iJhe Government was wall aware of Jane Dos #3 shen it
was negotiating the NPA. ws i listed hee un a victing ins the attachment to the NPA.” (OF 279 at
6) 1 she was already listed as a victim ou the NPA. why would they need to prove that further
hy udding puges of severilius allegations against various individuzl? And why did they hive 10
mention Prot. Decshowivz by name. when clsewhers they claim that “namocous. promincar™
individuals so allegedly commited sexual abuse, hut keop those alleged figures anonymous?
The had fiith ugainst Prof. Dendowit is apparent’.
* Similarly, Jane Doo #3's allceations that sho named Prince Andrew hocauss of outstanding
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Sovand, Time Thao #3 claims that she naded 10 define Prof. Dershowitz and others in the
Joinder Motian because of discovery disputes between the goverment and Jane Doc i and Jans
Dos #2. Lbs dost uot sven make sense. logally or fcwally. Jane Dos #3 right to joia in this
case has nahin to do with June Doe #1 and June Toe 52's entillement ln documents in
discovery. In fact, the discovery coquests that Jane Doc £13 cites to in her Response as purported
cover foe their sliming of Prof Deshusitz shows hat their snguament is Fuctually bogus, Pro
Dershowitz is mentioned in only twa of twenty-five requests for production propounded by Jane
Thue #1 amd Tame The #2. (Se Tame The #1 amd Tame Toe #2° First Reqs for Prsduction 10
the Government Regarding Information Relevant to Their Pending Action Canccen [sic] the
Crime Victims Act, of DE 225-1 x 20-35) Both requests. nos. 5 and 21 sock his
communications with the government in li tole us Me. Tpsiein's defense ullorney. There i 1
issue of complicity or knowladge in any misconduct. Moreover. 3 fact coneniently omincd by
Tame Tose #3 bt thal Prof. Diershowily is on oF eleven hwy whos commussications Jane Diss
1 and Jane Doc £2 sought in the sequests for production. As the Couet knows, Prof. Dershawitz
had 50 material comnsetion ta this caso—ss 10 the merits or as fo discavery—bofore he was
drugged in by June Doe 23.
Third. Jane Doc #3 clainis that the smears agauast Prof. Dershowitz are relevant to show
Uh Pros. Thershonwils had a motive on negntiaie “confidentiality” und “lank check” provisions
discovery requests regarding her beliel Ural Prince Andrews was somehow involved in “lobbying
eiforts 10 persuade the Govemment to give im a mare favorable plea arrangement,” and because
ter allogations against Prince Andrews occurred in London. therefore “affect/ing| forcign
commerce are patently absurd. (DE 291 1120 and 1, fa 10) Because Jane Doc #3 other
allegations une replete with ullegations af interdaie aclivily nd hecue implications of Prince
Andrews involvernent in “lobbying” for he NPA are entirely morsensical, il is obvious tht the
inclusion of claims against Priace Andecw were nchuded solely for theie intended audience: the
oncdia
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int the KPA enters] into hewezn the government umd Mr. Fpsiein. Again, this argument makes
10 sense in the context of this case.* The inelusian of certein provisions in the agreement simply
has norhing w do with whether the govermenr complicd with its obligations under the Crime
Victims! Rights Aut ("CVRA™). TF anything, it is the government's mative that would be ut
issue although oven what point is doubrful aor the defines artomeye”. Morcovar, because the
first time Jane Doe #3 made thase contempiible llegations against Prof. Dershuswity was in her
Motion foe Joindee in December 2014, those allegations. ace irrelevant as to the inguiey of
whather Jane Doc #3°s rights under the GVEA were violated at the fime the NEA was caressed,
The government confirms that when Tune Tae #3 was contacted by the FIT about this
investipation, she clearly “stated that she did not want to be involved in the foderal
vestigation.” (IF 290 al 6.3 She was mot “kept in the dark? as she alleges in her Response
(DE 293 at 25) Instead, she apparently chose to stey in the dark. Moreover. she did not make
any allspations against Prof. Dershowitz at th fimo the NPA was carercd, nor did she made any
allegations against Prof. Decshowiv in hee action for civil damages in 2009, nor did she make
any allegations against Prof. Dershowitz in hor tape recorded inforview with her attorney in
2011. nor did she make any allegations ugsinst Prof. Dershowitz in her intersiew with the Britis
pecs in 2011. he fist time chess allogations surfaced wore in conncetion with Jane Doe #2's
tion for Toinder in thix uctian. The allegations have abslutely no relevanee i the underlying
issue of whether Jane Dos #3 was “ueated with fairness” when the NPA was catered, as the
allegations against Prof, Dershowitz did nat surface until approximately cight years lator.
* Prof. Dendiowits, slong with many other Liyers, was insalved in negofiuting the plea bargin
under which Gpstein agreed to phiad guilty to StS charges in exchange fo an agreement not to
prosceurs him federally. (lowever. he was not involved ia drafting the xt of the NPA. In fact,
wo othor lawyers did fh drafting.
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Moreover, if the goverment hud xny resson 1s believe th Prof. Denhowitz was invalved in
any criminal activity they would hase immediately demanded his rceusal rather than continuing
0 work with his as onc of Epsioin’s aftorncys in negotiating a plea bugaia,
Taunt, Jane The 3 then makes the facially absurd and Tielous chins tut somehow.
Prof. Dershowitz must bave drafted and benefited from the “co-conspirators” clause of the NPA.
Tht the Tink hetwezn the need to include these allegations and their ability Lo rescind the “co-
canspurators™ clause pocs completely uncxplauncd. “The alleparions ace complly grawitous, as
there i no such Tink. Kor such alaim existed until fabriested hy Tne Doe #3 ming yam afer the
NPA was signed and tally performed. Additionally, as stated in Prof. Deeshowity’s Supplecncnt
w his Mofion for Limited tutervetion, this “co-conspirer” provision “was intended fo ply fo
four alleged vo-canspiratoes, who were ued in the original NPA and later redated at their
request... Alan Dershowitz was never alkped to be a porential co-conspirator.” {DE 285 ard’ j
Incredibly, Jane Doc #3°s counsel, Bradley Edwards, agreed with this reading of the NEA
in is Statement of Undisputed Tact during bis own personal lawsuit against Jefficy Epstein
(giver Epstan v Scorr Roshstein and Bradley J Edwards, lawsuit (Case no. S02009-CA-
0408003) in Pulm Beach County Circuil Court There. Tdwards expluined that these co-
conspurtors were corn individuals wha “procured minor femalos to be mokstad by Epstein.”
{OR 201-18 a 1 271 Only maw, whan convenient as a way 10 Iry to justify allegations agains!
Prot. Dershowiv: docs Gwards argue (on behalf of Jane Doc 3) that the “co-conspirator”
provision was actually intended to protect Prof. Dorshowitz.
* Moreover, it is unlikely that angone who had sexual contact with Jane Doe 43, or any other
minar involved in the Epstein case. would be cunsiderod to be a “co-conspirator.” Instead those
dividuals would be substantive perpetrators, not eovceed by the agreconent.
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Fill, Jame Tae #3 claims that she nosded to fnclule Prof, Dershosity in her Fling
because her CVRA claion of “unfair” tecatment “implicates a fact-scasiive equitable defense
which must be considorod in the factual const of the cutive infsrface berwesu Epstein, the
relevent prosecutorial wtharities and the Feder] offense viclima™ The “faci” © which hit
“defense” is sensitive. even of Jane Dos #3 is allowed to intervene, are the interactions between
Ue prssecuton und June Doe £3. und not unin pertinent w Prof. Dershowitz: pemonally. Nor
are atomey-clicnr communications between Epstein and his counsel at issue. or che propa
subject of discovery in this action under any secnario.
TL June Doc £3's Efforts to Bolster Ter Lies About
Prof. Dershawite Are Remarkably Thin
Setting aside the utier irrclevaney of the llogations sgainst Prof. Dershawilz. having
encated un intermational imbrogliv by their ill-conceived libels of Pro. Dershowitz, one would
expect that Jane Doc #3 would be able to muster at east some credible support for thelr
alleguiions. Vet the tsa “incantesisble” fact she Tes with in support wf her clin ta Prof
Dershowitz is a serial sex abuser are (1) that Mr. Epstein and Prof. Dershowicz waee friends; and
(2 Prof. Dershowitz visited Mr, Epstein’s house, OF sours. these supposedly “incouicsiable™
ucts are evidence of nothing.
In the affidavit she submitted to this court, Jane Dos #3's lack of credibility is readily
apparent. She hus nis sworn under uth, repeling u fragrant Tie thu she had previously sold is
a British newspaper: namely thee “former Pecsicient Bill Clinton was present on the island
[efficy Epasin’s privake island] at « time when [Jane Dos #3] was alsa prosent on the iskmd.”
(IF 291-1 614 53.) Tn this canily discredited bricution, Jane Doe 13 expounded in inuginative
“Iie name of the publication is inforrionally emitted as Jano Dos # 3 reveals her identity
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detail shoul her fietionsl mosting with Former Prosidant Clinton, providing um slshoraie
desceiption about haw Me. Clintan and his scceet service detail somehow allowed Ghislaine
Massel thea a novice helicopter pilot fo fly al of thom fo Jsfficys Epstein’ privars island on
Tipstein’s blu helicupter, us well as details shout the specif: pluce ai the dinner thle at whith
she and Mr. Clinton were seared”, Jd. Jane Dac #3 also gave this British newspaper an account
of yet unother Fictional meeting on the same islund, but this tine with former vice president Gore
and his then wife, "ipper; providing specific devils purportedly rw enhance the value of hee
etiam tory: “Thee Cares seemed Ike n beautiful couple when T mel them... Jefiiey [Fpaein]
RIE asl me 10 ive him a inassage.... 1 was planning on Vating for hia sehen | turacd 15. 1
thought he was awesome.” On information and belicf; Prof, Dershowitz roproseats fo the Court
Unerein. A vopy of the publication, br & Tink Lo the ante, will he provided to the Court at the
Court's request
“The acticle states, 1 relevant part: “On one oceasion,| Jane Doe #3] adds, Epstein did invite two.
‘voung brunctres to a dinner which he gave on his Caribbean island for Mr. Clinton shortly afer
oe Tell office. Tul, us far tt she knows, the ex-President did nol ike he uit, “Td have heen
shoul 17 ul the time,’ [Jane Doe 33] sage 1 flew lo the Caribbean with JelTrey und then
Ghislaine Maxwell wea to pick up Bill [Clinton] in a fuge black helicopter that Jefticy had
bought hr. She'd always wanted to fly and Jefficy paid for her to tak lessons. and | remember
she was vary oxeiled becuse she gol her licence around the find year we met 1 used fo got
frightened fying wilh her but Hill had the Siem Service with hin und | remember bim lalking
shout what a good job she did. | ony wver met Bill twice but Jellrey had told me that they were
ood friends. 1 asked, “ow come?" and he laughed and said, “Tle owes ae som favours.”
Maybe ho was just joking but it constanrly surprised me that people with as much ta loc as Bill
sad [2rines] Abdres weren't more careful. Bill must have known about Jeffreys girs... Wo all
ined Iogether thal night. TelTrey ws at the head of the thle. Bil wis at his Tell. T sat across
from hin. [1, Ghislaine? horde Thritish woistant, sat at my ight. Ghisluine was at Bills lef and
at the left of Ghislaine there were ow alive-skinned bancrtce who'd flown with us from Nov:
York. I'd never met them before. I'd say they were no older than 17, very innocent-looking...
Maybe Jeilrey thought they would enicrtain Bill, but 1 saw no evidence tht he was interested in
them. Fe smd Jeffrey smd Ghislaine seemed 1 huve a very gon relationship. Bill was very
funny. Te made me faugh a few times. And he nd JefMrey Ghislaine told blokes jokes and the
brunettes lised politely and gigaled. After dinner | gave Jefliey an erotic message. 1 don't
ccmeniber secing Bill again on the ip but | assume Ghislaine flex him back.”
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that evince will shows that former president Clinton, former vice president Al Gore, ami Tipper
Gors never set foor on FEpstin's private island. and that in all events Jane Dog 73's detailed
accounts ase uot merely propestorous on thei fice but in fact sutisely Sse and bor swom
Stuernent to this cour is perjurious.
Indecd. while the poiars mised above show a complete lack of investigation into the
enedibility of the sonum making these seurilous allegations’, shat is mos! remarkable bout
Jane Doe #3's Response is what it omits. Approsimately six years ago, lane Doc 52 took
advantage of the NPA’s provisions, sucd Mr, Epstein and roocived 2 monstary someon.
Tronically, Tune Doe 23 now seeks to vertu: the very NPA which veuired Tipstein ls waive his
aight to contest liability by moving to jou the tastant action which secks to rescind that very
agreement
Yet. she apparently never ance mentioned Prof. Deeshiowits s now supposedly systematic
sexual abuse of hor fo tho proscoutors of to her own lawyer. Na explanstion is piven for this
mouaental inconsistency. Nor, despite his supposed status as a co-conspirator in a scheme to
caver up an underage sex abuse ring, is thor any explanation given for the fot that Prof.
Dershowily wan never even investigated—or even menfioned—as a potential spect.
Meaaehile the prose cass has been proceeding for the last six and a half years, but no
explanation hus been given for the timing of Tame Ths #3°s effort ta join this case only last
moo
“Prof. Dershowitz reserves the right to promptly file a succinee supplement to this Reply bricf
with information which be is in the process of confirming pecsently.
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IV. Prof. Dershowitz Immediately Responded to Jane Doe #3 Allegations
Against Him by Asking to Defend his Reputation
Jang Doc 3 also argues that Prof, Dershowitz should not be allowed ta interven because
“he has declined to defend his reputation in other actions” (DF 379, ut 12) This is
demonstrably false. It is withont question thar the Motion for Juindse filed by Jans Dos 3 on
Dacomber 30, 2014 (DE 279) was tho first time anyono hss ever allogod that Prof. Dershowitz
hud any sexual contact with a mina. necessarily Gollows that this is the first opportaaily Prof:
Dershowitz has had to defend his reputation related fo “his involvement in Epstein’s offenses.”
To fet, just six days aller these venamius allegations were made, Prof. Tiershavits fled his
Motion for Limited lucereation. (DE: 282)
More spscifieslly, Jane Do #3 srguas that when the civil lawsuit was brought by “anc of
the underage Temales agvinst Tpstein in 2009 (Doe v. Kpstaae, No. 9:08-30393-KAM {S.0.
la), “Dershowitz understood that counsel for many of Epstein’s victims belicved that mounting
evidence painted tsar his role extending beyond merely heing sm sitomey fir Tpsiein ® (DF
2790113) This. too, is demonsteably false. Despite this raak and self-sceving speculation about
what Prof. Dershowitz “understood,” there is mot one picee of evidence which points to any
allegations that he engeged in any sexual contact with any erinor. or even abserved ung erininal
activity, prior fo the Decconber 30. 2014 Motion for Joinder, Insicad, the deposition testimony
which Jane The #3 paints lis simply slates that Prof. Dershowitz. visited Fpsiein's home
Deposition Testimony of Alticdo Rodeiguer at 199, 278, 279, DI: 291-18. heecin. “Rodeiguez
Dipo. 167) Rodviguez specifically wslificd that he has uo idea whether Prof: Dersitawits had
any contact at all with way female.
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€Q. And did you have smy knowledge of why [Dershawils] wis visiting there?
A. No man
Q. And do vou have any idea whether or not Mr. Dershowitz was also resciving
massages?
A Talon anon, Maar.
Q. As to whether any of those women were wvee associated with Mr, Dershowitz would it
bc a correct statement that you have absolutely no knowledze?
A. Ldont know, sir.
Q. Okay. Were you in any way uliempling in your response to Ms. Tell imply that
Mr. Dershowitz had a massapc by one af these young ladies?
A Ldow't know, sir
Q. Youhave no kninledge?
A. Na. sit
(otiigioz Dp. 15 i 279, 200 365. 563 To be sure, Mediipieg docs wily tn peel
Toershati/ wus al Tpatein's homme when youn fentales were present ul the home — un allegation
which Dershorwiuz stecauousty denice, However, Rodrigues did not testify that Prof. Dershowirz
saw, interacted with, or tucked any af these fimules. Tosca, when asked whl Pro.
Dershowitz did “while those girls were at the house,” Rodriguez answeeed “Ile will read a book
with 3 glss of wing by the pool, stay inside.” (Id. 1.426, 427.1 When asked if Prof. Dershowitz
ever even spoke tr umy of the ils, or “even knew that they were there” Rodrigues answered “1
don't know.” (Id. at 427.) [his is consistent wich the face chat Epetcin’s home is very large and
Is separate closed-off quarters when: Epstein resided. Prof. Dendunvitz never stepped into
these private quactses
Jang Dac #3 alsa solics upon the Scpeembar §, 3009 deposition testimony of Mr. Juan
Alessi to “conubarate” Tune Doe #3% sensational und fuse ullegutions regarding Prof
Dershowitz. However, a mors complete examination of that testimony reveals that Alessi did
not muke. any ullegntions of any wrang doing by Dershinvies. (See, TF 291-17, hercinafler
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alos Depo. Te) Alessi ested that he saw “momy celebrities” al he house... including] a
very famaus Laseyer] | that mn sure you know, Alan Deeshowitz, who spend [sic] at the house a
couple fame.” (Alessi Depo. Lr. 70, TL) However, Alessi mads no allegations of improprictics
against amy of these individuals, Jane Dow 33 asks the Cour to infer tl becuse Prof
Dershowitz was at hus clicat’s home, ke must have pacticipated in nefarious aedfvcics. In fact.
rai. Derdhowitz's friendship with Tpstein consisted of the exchumge of academic and
intellectual dens. At most, Alessi testified thar eof. Dershowitz visked Epstcins home and
recived n massage fram an wall masege therapist, which “wat 4 treat For evershuds® at the
Epstein home. (1d. at 74) {*Q. Did | Dershowitz] have massages sometimes when he was theee?
A. Yos. A masse was like a tecat for cvorvbody. If they want it, we call the massage and they
lve uw mussuge”) Alessi oxpluins that le was refering to massuges. performed by sdull
massage thecapists. {1d. at 184) (*Q. All tight. Aad it | understood your testimony is, the oncs
he = tha i, of he mse This us you've just disribed [1 hundred, 200 differant massage
therapists], you saw some men? A. Yes. Q. You saw more women? A. Yes. Q. And all of the
women, at least from your viewpoint, were 15, 19 or older? 4. Yes”)
Messin Ales und Rondrigues dill nol allege that Prof. Derowits received 4 massuge
from any underage females. had any physical contact whatsoover with any underage females, oe
witnosed anyone engaging in umy inspproprisie hehuvior with ny undenge formal
Additionally. despite cheie allegations 10 the contrary, it is clear that previous testimony fam
Rodriguez and Alessi doss not cotmoborste Jans oo 3's hascloss and utrely false affidavit.
mn 2011
7 In fact, the only massage Prof. Dershowitz ever received at any of Lpstein's homes was from a
professional massans therapist who was un ber 30°s or 405.
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Next, Jane Doe 3 claims that rof. Thashowits declined to defend his reputalion in the
Fidwards v. tpstein lawsuit (Case no. S02009-CA-040800) in Palin Teach County Circuit Cour.
(Opp. w0 Min. to lmervsue a6 13.) lu suppet of this allegation, Jac Doe #3 arguss that bse
tome in the instmt matter, Tiradley Tiwanls (through his ationey Tack Seurol) contacted
Prof. Dershowitz to sock his voluntary cooperation 10 answaring questions about Peo.
ershawily's client, Teifrey Fpstein's conduct. Prof, Demhowit respanded by letter stating
As you may know, | was Jefticy Epsccin’s attomcy when he submiteed bis guilty plea
Accordingly. “any knowledge” | may have in connection with that plea is privilcacs
information. 1 you wand lel me knw whal non-privileged information you would seck
from me, Twauld then he she to decide whelher ta cooperate.
{DE 291-11) Dershorwivr sent a sceond letter an oc about August 29, 2011 explaining that he
has “never personally obscrved Jeffrey Epsicin in the prosence of underage females,” and asking
awards” attorney Lo provide him with my ulleged basis for his unfounded beliei. Twurd
attorney responded by staring thar based on “sworn fostimony and private interviews” he had
places] [Dershiwits] in the presence wf Telliey Tpsiein on mulliple occasions... when Tefirey
Epstein was in the company of underage females subsequently idearified as victims. (DE: 291 at
13.14) Again, no allegations ware mud 3 thal time hy Edwards’ sulomay, or hy anyon else.
that Prof. Dershowit engaged in any inappropriate conduct or witnessed wry inappropriate
conduet related to Jetty Epstein and underage femalcs, Instead. Edwards was incorrectly
seeking Prof. Dershowits's woaperativn for i civil suit between Dershawils's client, Telirey
Epstein, ond Ldwacds himself, Remadsably, because Prof. Decshowitz did aor agece to
compromiss his sthical cbligations 10 his slit, by voluntarily cooponting with kpsicin’s
1s
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adversiies, fimo Tho #3 urgues that Prof. Dendowits should mot be allowed 1a interven in this
action’
Its sloar from the record. however, that Prof. Dirshowitz acted inuncdiately w dead
imal the frst nme he seus made aware of uny such allegations against him. Tn fact, just six
days atier Jane Doc #3 filed her Motion for Joindor, which included vicious allegations against
im, Prof. Dershaswits filed his Viution for Timiled Intervention. (DF 282) Accordingly. Prof.
Deeshowity should be peemited 1 intervene for dhe limited purposes af moving to strike these
outrageous and impertinent allegations.
¥. June Doc £3's Reliance on Other's Tnvoeation of the
Fifth Amendment is Inproper and Whally Uupersuosive.
Wilhout a shrd of physical evidence or witness conoboration for Jane Doc #3's
Tuasies, she relies. on vocations: of the Filth Amendment by Tsien as supportive of an
adverse inference as fo Prof: Dershowitz. Given that Epstein was taking the Fifth Amendment
on virtually sll questions, sind sould have responded in the same way hud the ippesite questions
been asiied. there i nu inference against Prof. Dershowitz to be anads trom the invocation of the
Kifih Amendment by Epacin”. Epseins inlerest ~ in doslining to answer any questions
sehatsoever was Tis own personal interest and not that of bis le yers, und lacks even minimal
relevance. Coguing Investments v. 1D Bunk, NA. 760 K3d 130, 1310-11 (1h Cie
2014)(udverse inferences (ram the (ih amendment inv ication by third pasties allowed only
* Jane Doc £3's argument that he has nut yet scheduled his deposition in this case. or the cently
filed defamation action, is of no moment At the appropriate time, Prof. Dershowitz will of
course, appear for his deposition and testify that Jane Doc 3° allegations as fo him arc catircly
Tabie, This, haveser, hus ms hearing us i whether the Cann Ahould permit the limited
intervention Prof. Dershowits seeks.
* tad Epstein beco asked about anyone from leading government officials ta membcs
ofthe clerey he wold have similacy invokad the Fifth Amendment
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where inference is “rustwarihy under all of the ciramskmees” including relationship, shared
inteeest and conteol): Kontos v. Koos, 968 T Supp. 400, 407-408 (1997) (no adverse inference
allowed from invocation of Fi Amendment by sister of civil defendant in absence of “idsuniry
of interests"). Sehustion 1. City of Chicago, 2008 WI, 2%7S25S 233-34 (ND. TL 2008) (m0
adverse wference from invocation of Fifth Amendment in absence of close family or business
relaticmshipy. Similarly, any other witesses taking the Till Amendment und remaining silent to
pote themselves are obviously not cresting any kind of evidence agaust Prof. Dershowitz
See, Conguinas Favesimenss, TO F 3d at 13100 (1 11h Cir. 2013).
Conclusion
In conclusion, Prof. Dershowitz has no inrersst in joining this case other thu to strike the
scurrilous und ireeles unt allegations ugainst him. 0 the Court grunts Tune Des 23 and #4 mation
for founder (DE 279). then Prof. Dorshowitz’s moron for limited inrervearion should be ranted
for such purposes as may bo appropriate including submitcing 3 motion to stike or arhor rSlict.
50 as 10 give him an opportunity to defend himself againse harmful. defanatory and tals
allegations of the worse kind. 1f the Court rejects the pending mation for joinder, then the Court
Should strike the scurrilous allegations guint Deshowitz, or, ultermatively. determine the
possible mootness of his Motion for Limited Intervention. OF course, if the Court suikss the
allegations ngainsi him sa sponie, Prof. Thrshowity will withdrase his motion for limited
intervention
Respetfully submitted.
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Filing # 34801581 E-Filed 11:23:2015 05:53:31 PM
CASE NO.: CACE 134300072
BRADLEY I. EDWARDS and PAUL G.
CASSTIL,
Plaintiffs,
Defendant. ,
CASSELL’S RESPONSE TO DERSHOWITZ'S MOTION TQ DETERMINE
PhiniifiCounserclsin Defendants Beadle I. Tdwimds snd Baul G. Cassell, by and
thiough their undecsigned allomeys, hereby fle this response to Dershowit’s Motion to
Ditermin Confidentiadity of Court Recards. The records at issuc arc not confidential, se so the
Court sould deny Dezshowits’s wotios in its entirety.
‘The court records at issue are three court tiliags by atiorneys Ldwards und Cassell
in which they recite their client's (Mr. Virginis Ginflve’s) allegations that she wos sexually
abused by Bershawitz, These records are hardly “confidential” in this defamation case,
wherethe parties have chims and counterclaims about these sexual abuse
Allegations, Rather, these records are an important part of this ease, since they not any
support the conclusion that Dershowitz abused Ms. Giuffre, hut also indisputably establish
Edwards and Cassell’ strang basis for fling tie allegations on ber behalf. Moreover,
contrary to assertions made in Dershowitz’s motion, these documents have never heen
found fo be “confidential” by uny other court, And Dershowitz has repeatedly referred to
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Evans, Hinde vs. Darsaonic:
Caso Noi: CACE (5.066672
Far nd Cals Response 1 Durshoss Macon 10 Deters Confidentiality of Cour Rusords
Pago2of20
these documents, not anly in defamatory statements broadcast worklwide, but also in his
Pleadings before this Court and in recent depositions. Indeed. Dershowitz said ia his
‘media interviews that he wants “everything to be wade public” aud implied that Edwards
and Cassell hud something to hide. Accordingly, Dershavwit has filed 6 carry his heavy
burden to justify sealing those presumptively-public documents.
1 DERSHOWITZ HAS NOY JUSTIFIED SEALING ALLEGED
In his motion. Dershowitz never recounts the heavy burden that he must cary to seal the
records at issu. To he sure, Florida Rule af Tudicial Administration 2.420 allows for the sealing
of confidential” materials. But the Rule begins by recounting the overarching principk: that
“ijk public shall have acess to all records of the judicial brunch of goverment, except as
provided bekin” Flu R. Jud Adin. 2420). “This me is & caditication of the Horde
Supreme Court's admonition that a “a strang presumption of epenness sxists for all cour
procecdings. A trial is public event, und the fled revords of court proceedings ure publ
records suitable for public examination.” Baron v. Florida fvcedom Newspapers. Inc. S31
0.2 113, 118 (Fla. 1988) {ewphasis added). in light of this prosumprion of openness, “{(Jhe
bucden of proof in [closure] proceedings shall sivas be an ihe party seeking dosuee” id To
obras u sealing order, the party soeking sealing oust carry a “heavy bucden.” It
Remarkably, Dershowitz fils 1 acknowledge these well-setded principles. More
important, he even fails w cite (much less discuss) the limited substantive exceptionsto this
general principle of access aid which specific exception be believes applios 0 this
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Libvants, Beadle vs, Deshovcte
Cesc No. CACK 13400052
Liheaet nd Cassell Resp 10 Desoets olin 10 Deere Confidential of Cour Rssords
Page3uf 20
case. Accordingly, it is impossible for Fdwards and Cassell 10 respond with precision to fis
mation.
“The exceptions that might arguably be in ply in this case port records to be maintined
as canfidearial in order to;
0) Prevent useridus und jmminend threat to the fa, impartial, and onderly
administration of justice;
Gi) Poteet trade seorcts;
iy Peotect a compelling governmeneal interest;
i) Oboin evidenee 1o deicrmine legal issues in 2 case:
(Avoid sobsianiial injury innocent thicd pacties;
(v) Avoid sobsiantial injury ta a party by disclosure of matters protected by
common Law or privacy right not gencrally inherent in the specific pe of
procecding sought fo be closed:
(vi) Comply with established public policy sct forth in he Florida or United
States Constitution or siautes or Florida rules or case a.
Fla R. Jud Admin. 2420(c)9) (codifying the holding in Barron v. Florida Freedom
Newspapers, hic.. $31 $0.26 113 (Fla. 1988). Tow only exception hut seems even ueguably
apply here is exception vi, which itself specifically provides that confidentiality is appeopriate
only where disclosure is “nat generally mere in the specific type of proceeding sought 1b be
closed” emphasis added). OF course, (Bis Tawsull & a defunation action involviag
adefumaton claim by Wdwards aod Cassell end adefumaion couvercaim by
Decshowitz. Disclosure. discussion. and debate sbout the defimmiory statements ut issue lies at
fhe bart of the ease. Accordingly. disclosure vf these materials is “inhecent” in the case itself.
The principle. that defamatory material in a defamation case cannot be sealed is reengnized
in Carnegie v. Tedder, 698 $0.26 1310 (2d DCA 1997). Camogie involved u chim and
counterclaim between two pares (Camegie anu Tedder), one af whom atheged that disclosure of
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Edwards, Bradioy vs. Doshawsty
Gave No CACE 15-000072
Foard sn Casells Hespans to Dsshowit's Motion t Dennis Confilendils of Cour Records
Pege dor 20
the malericis in the rocomds would be hamid fo his profssional
reputation. Carasgie recited subsection vi’ rostiction on rekense of material. involving &
privacy right. but noted that “statements Tedder afleged veere defamatory and damagiag were
allegations in Cumegi's counterclaim for whick she secks damages.
‘These matters were not pecipheral to the lawsuit: they were inhorent fo it” 4d at 1312. OF
course, exaolly the same principle applies here: sexual shuse llegations fled by attorneys
Bdvwards and Cassell for thei elim Ms. Virginia Giuffte are not peripheral to this lawsuit — they
anc inherent to it
Ta ssc how “Jnborent” the sexual abuse allegations are to this lawsuit, the Cot need
fook no futher thin Dershowits's counierchim in this case. Count © of Dershowitz
Countercluin: (styled as “False Allegations in the Joinder Motion") contends that Edwards and
‘Casselt stiaudd pay him dumiges because they “filed a pleading ie the Federal Action tiled “Jane
Doe #3 and Jane Doe #4's Motion Pursuant to Rule 21 for Toinder in Action’... * Dershowitz
Counterclaim ut § 4, Dershowitz's Counterclaim then goes on Ib quotc ut fength fom the
Joiner Motion. fis counlonTuim contains, for example, this paragraph recavnling the
sllegations:
The Jainder Motion then gocs on to allege without uny supporiing evidence — as
follows:
One such powselil individual thal Fpstcin forced then-mainor Jane Dae #3
have sexual selations with was fomer Harvind Law Professor Alan
Dershowitz, a close friend of Epstein’s und well-known criinab defense
auamcy. Ppsicin required Jane Dos #3 © have sexual relations with
Desshwit. on numerous eceusions while she was 3 minor, not anly in Flarida
but also on private planes, in New York, New Mexico, and the US. Virgin
HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_010760
Beasts, Biadiey vs. Desshowicn
Gate No. CACE 1300072
Edad 11d Cores Resp 0 Dero Molin fo Dstrne Confidential of Cot Records
Pago 50120
lands. ta addition to being a participunt in the sae of Tie Doc #3 aad other
minoes, Dershowitz was an eye-wiliess Go the sexual sbuse of many other
winors by Epstein and several of Epstein's cacanspiratass. Dershowits would
te play u significant role in negotiating the [Non-Prosecation Agreement] sn
Fpuin®s hel. Indeed, Dershowitz helped nogotiate a: agreement that
provided immunity from federal prosecution in the Southern Disc of Florida
not only to Epsteio, hut also to “any potential cocomspiraions of Epsicin.” Thus.
Dershowicz helped negotiate an agreement witha provivien hat provided
protection for himself apaiost criminal prosecution in Tlorids for sexually
abusing Jan Doc #3. Because this broad imenunity wouldhave been
comtraversial if disclosed. Dershowitz (along with ather membes of Epstein’s
defense Lem) und the Goverment vied to keep the immunity provision secret
from all of Fpuiein’s victims und the general public, even though such secrecy
violated the Crime Victims’ Rights Act.
Dershowitz Counterehiim at 15 (quoting Joinder Motion at 4),
Remarkably, basing quoted al feng Form the onder Motion in bis Counterclaim in this
case, Dershowitz now secks to have dat vory same language fom the foinder Malion deemed
“cantidential” and sealed. Crimpare Counterclaim ul 115 (Bock quotation nbove) with Motion to
Determine Confidentializy, Exhibit A al 4 (composite exhibit with prapased “confidentist®
oeument that includes puagraph beginning “fone such powerfu! individuat that Fpsiein forced
theninor Tone Doe £3 to have sexs relations with was former Harvard Lu Professor Alan
Dershowitz, u close fiend of Epstein's . .. 7). Dershowizz cannot come hefore this Court and
file a counlercluim seeking dumnges from Edwards and Cassell foralleged defamitory
saemenss and hen ak to hase those very sume sowements placed under wal us
“confidential.” See Barron v. Florida Freedom Newspapers. 53% Sod at 119. (althoogh
generally protected hy one’s privacy right, medical reports und history are no longer protected
HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_010761
Edwards. Brady ve. Dershuvri:
Eivats ns Cast Rens n Deshi on o Din Conny of Com cis
Pagehor20
when the medical condition hecomes an lategral part of the civil proceeding, pariicularly when
thi condision is assersed as an sue by sh persy seeking clossre” (emphasis sdded)).
IL JUDGE MARRA'S ORDER IN HIS CASE DOES NOT REQUIRE THAT
Dershowitz also appears ta contend that Judge Marr's order steiking some of the
materials from the rocards al issue somehow Toquires at these swickn matkaials be kent
confidential in this case. Decstiowiu’s arguraent misundersiands both the scope of Judge
Mann's order and ts effect in this case. His argument rests ou a tuncated — and misleading
description of the events surrounding Judge Marta's rufing striking certain documents. A more
complete descriprion makes clear thac Judge Marra has not deteamined the documents ave
somehor “confidential” even in the fderal Crime Vietims' Rights Act cise - much less in this
Separate slite defamation action.
Edwards and Cassell fled the federal case pro bono on behalf of twa young women who
were sexwlly abused as underage: girls by Dershowite's lose personal friend — Jeffrey
Epstein. [0 2008, awards and Casell fled a pecition to enforce the rights of “Jace Doe No. 1”
and “Jue Doc No. 2" under the Crime Victions” Rights Act (CVRA), 18 U.S.C. § 3771. alleging
hat the Government had failed 6 provide tem rights with regard 0 a plea arrangement it vas
puning with Epstein. Jone Doe No. | ard Jane Doc Xo. 2 v. United States, No. 9:08-v-80736
(3.0. Flu). Tn the course of that ease, on October 11, 2011. the wists filed discovery requests
with the Govemmenl, including requests specifically seeking information about Dershowitz,
Proce Andrew, and others. Further efforts fiom the Government to void ay discovery
HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_010762
Kauande, Deal vs, Decsborite
Case No: CAC 15066072
Twins nd Cavell Response to Dsnowices Motion ts Ditereine Conical of Cour Records
Fuge Tor 20
Iollowed (see generally Docket Entey or “DE? 225-1 at 4-5), ulintely leading to u further
Court ring in June 20J3 that the Goverment should produce documents. DFE 189. The
‘Government then produced shout 1,500 puges of langely irrelevant materials to the victims (DE
225-1 at 5), whilk sicnulancously submitting 14,825 pages of relevent materials under seal 1a the
Coun. ‘the Government aimed that thewe pages were “privileged” for various reasons,
itaching an abbreviated privilege log.
‘While these discovery issues wore pending. in the sammee of 2014, Fwards and Cassell,
contacted Government coum] 10 request (heir agroemicat to add two additional victims 10 the
ease, including Ms. Virginia Giaflie (who was identified in court. pleadings as “Jumo Doc No.
37). Fewards anil Cassell sought to have her added to the ease via stipulation, which would hive
avoided the aced to Include any detuled Tics what her abuse. Weeks wear by and the
Gavernment as it bad donc ov a similar request for a stipulation t udd another viegm — did not
respond 1 counsels reguest fo a stipulation. Finally, on Docawber J0. 2014, despite having
had four manths to provide a position, the Gavernent respanded by email o counsel thi it was
seeking more time, indicating that the Goverment understood that victims’ counse? aight need
© file a mation with fhe court an the mater immodiscely. DE 291 at 3.5. Rather than fite a
motion immediazaly, viens” connsel waited and continued Go prs the Governmen: for a
stipulation. See id ul 5. Finally. on December 23, 2014 ~ more than four caonuhs afer the nicial
request for a stipulated jainder into ihe case — the Government forsely indicarcd its objection,
withowul indicating amy reason: “Cur position is that we oppose adding new petitioners ut this
Stage of the litigation.” Sew DE 291 ut 5.
HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_010763
Edoants. Bradley vs Dense
Case No: CACE 15000032
Ewa and Cuceels Response to Dershoit’s Mion to Deering Canfidenliali of Cour Recurds
Page Boi 20
Because the Govommonr now contested the joinder motion, Edwards and
Casseli prepared a more detsifed pleading explaining the justification for granting the
mation. One week after receiving the Government's objection, un December 30. 2014, Ms.
Giullre gic. Jane Doc No. 3) snd Jane Doc No. 4 filed a motion (and Tater a correctad wotion)
seeking w join the case, DF 279 and DE 280. (Note: DE 280 is the first of the three documents
Dershowitz seeks 10 have declared “confidential” in this case.) Uncertain as to the basis for the
Gavernment's objection, the motion briefly proffered the circumstances thal would qualify
the two Women us “victims” siigibie fo asst tights under the CVRA. See 18 USC. 3771(e)
(dolining “crime victim” protected under dhe Act). With regard to Ms. Git. the motion
indicated that shen she vais a minor, Jeffcey Epstein had trafficked ber to Dershowitz and Prince
Andrew (among others) for sexual purposes. Jane Doe No, 3 stand tha she was prepared fo
prove her prafTez, See DE 280 at 3 (If allowed 1 join this acto, Jane Poo No. 3 would prove
the following . “The motion also provided sposific reasons why Jane Doe No. 3's
participation was relevant to the case, incluing the pending discovary issues regarding
Tershawity und Prince Andeew. DE 280 at 9:10 (explaining several ceasons participation of new
victims vas refevant (existing issues).
After the motion was filed, various news ongenizations published articles about
it. Dershowits also made numerous media staroments abou the filing. includiog callioy Tans
Doo No. 3 “a serial liar’ who “has lied through ber feeth show many world
foders.” bupiroom comi2013101 06 us deshowiiz-sexallepation’. Dershawice alsa
repeatedly eollod wards umd Cassel] “two sleazy. professional, disharable buyers.” ki On
HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_010764
Lown, Bade vs Dershowicz
Sint 20d Css Raps Desig Modo anos Coney o Cost rts
Pac0ui
Jonny 5. 2015, Dershowaty filed 2 motion 10 intervene lo argue to buve the allegations
stricken. DFE 282. Dershowitz also srgued that Ms. Giuffre had not provided a sworn affidavit
adtesting (© the trulh of her slgotions, On Jeary 21, 2015, Edwards and Cassell filed a
response for Ms. Giufire and Tune Doe No. 4. IDF 291. (Note: This js the second of the three
dasuments Mershovitz seeks to have Sept under seal here) The response enumersiel ain
specific reasons why Ms. Giufire's specific allegations sgainst irshowitz were relevant to the
vase. including the fact that Ms. Giuffre needed 10 estublish thaw she was a “victim” in the cese.
that pending discavery requests conserming Dershowite-specific documents were pending, and
‘that Dershowitz’s roie as 2 defense ullomey in the cuse wis highly relevant ta the motive for the
Gavernment and defense counsel to conceal the plea deal from the victims. DI 291 al 17.26 &
17. The respunse included o detiled sfiduvit fiom Ms. Gingfre about the sexual abuse she had
suffered from Epstein, Dershowitz, and other powerful persons. DE 201-1. On Febuary 6.
2015, Edwards and Cassell filed a further pleading {and affidavit from Ms. Giuflre, see DF 291-
1) in support of her motion t@ intervene. (Note: Ihis uffidsvit is the third of the these documents
Dershowitz seeks to have declared confidential)
On April 7, 2015, Judge Marra denied Ms. Giudike's mation to join the case. Judge
Marea concluded that “at chis juncture in Lhe proceedings” details about the sexual buse she had
suffered wes unnecessary to making a determination “of whether Jane Doe 3 and Jane Doe 4
“ould be permitied to join [ihe wher vietims"] clsim that the Government violated thei sights
under the CVRA. The 12ctual defuils regarding with whom and where the Jane Does engaged in
scxunl activities are impertioent to this central claim (ic, that they were know victims of Mr.
HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_010765
Fors, tral vs Dershouie
Case No: CACE 5000072
Ftsanls nl Gres Response to Dershowets Mason a steno Conldentsity of Court Records
Page 105F20
Twin and the Goverment owed them CVRA dalies), especially considering that the details
involve nan-prties who are not related to the respondent Govemment.” DF 324 at 5 (cmphasis
in originali. While Judge Mima struck those allegations, ho emphasized thu “Jane Doe 3 is free
reassert hese faernal details through proper evidentiary proof. should the victians)
demonstrate a good faith bugis for believing that such details are pertinent ko u matler prescrited.
for the Cours consideration. Judge Vises then denied Ms. Giugire's mation to join the case,
bat alowed her fo participate as wial witaess: “The necessary participation” of [Ms. Giufre] .
in this cass can be saisfied by offering .. . properly supported — and relevr, wdmissible, aud
non-culitive ~ testimony as needed, whelher hough festimony at tial . . . or fidavily
sapported in support fof} the relevancy of discovery reuesis” DE 324 at 8 (emphasis
deleted). Ln a sapplemental order, Judge Mara stated thac the vietims “Tony re-reile these
documents omitting the sicken portions.” DE! 325. The victims have recently retiled the
documents.
Tn light of this history. Dershowiu is flully incorrect when be asserts that “Judge Marra’s
Order appropriately precludes the wredacted documents from being re-filed in this case on the
public docket” Conlidentiality Motion at 3, To the contrary, the Order specifically permits.
fuctual details about Decshowite’s sexual ubuse of Ms. Giuffte to be presented ia regard fa
pertinent malicrs in the federal CFA case. And certainly nothing in Judie Maria's Onder coald
render those docoments confidential in this stare defamation case, where the central issues seirl
around Fabwards and Casscll’s good faith basis for filing the allegations. Indeed. the order is not
binding in any way in his case, because it is ccs judicata only os to Ms. Giuflre (the moving
HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_010766
Eduazes Bradley vs Dershowitz
Case No’: CACHE 15000072
EE Cans oe 0S MS DS CA af Con es
party in dhat case), not as to her attomeys Edwands and Cassell, See Palm AEC Holdings, be: v.
Palnr Beach Covnty, 807 $0.24 703 (4% DC'A 2002) (“In order lor res judicata 1 apply Tour
ideaities must be present: (1) entity of the thing sued for: (2) identity of the cause of action:
(3) idensity of persons and partios; and (4) identity of tho quit or cupecily of tre parsons for or
against who the elaim is made.
TL EDWARDS AND CASSELL WILL BF, PREJUDICED [F THEY ARE
DERSHOWIIZ IS PERMITTED ‘10 FREELY REFER TO TBEM
Dershonwits is als incor! when he sents that no peejudice will betal! Edwards and
Cassa if the records am placed uuder seal. To the contrary, plaing the docurnents under sal
would permit Dershowils to continue to miscepresent and distort what is contained in those
records while preventing Hdwads and Cassell from conrosting those muisceprescntations,
Dershowite ns repeatedly refered 1 details in the reconls when he bias found it conserient 1
da sn — eating the records 65 not confidential in any away. One clear example comes from
Denshowicz’s seceat deposition, where he grarutousty injected into the record u reference to &
portion of Ms. Giuflie's alfidavit shoot him walching Ms. Giuilre perform oral sx on
Tipstein. Aad then, having injecied that gratuitous relerence into the second. he proceedod to try
to tobi the reference with confidntial settfement discussions —but did sa by misprescutiag shat
anther atiamey (David Pies) had said during the seulement discussions. So that the Cot may
bave the full flavor of the cxchacge, the narrow question to Dershowitz (by attorney Jack
HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_010767
Edwards. Bredicy vs. Dershowitz
Cae No: CAGE 1.900072
Edwaris and Ceseclls Respors to Dershoni2's Motion to Determine Confidensialicy of Coun Itscants
Page 120170
Scarola) and Dershowitz’s extended answer are quoted in full including Desshowitz’s
reference to th oral scx allegation that he mow argues this Court should troat as “conficeatial™
Q [Vou lure aware thut sears before December of 2054, when the
CVRA pleading was flzd, thal your nme hud come up repeatedly in
coneetion with feflreg Fpstein’s tbuse of minors, correat?
A. Let me answer thar question. J am aware that never before 2014,
end of Decsmier, wie it ever. ever alleged tha hud acted in uny
way ineppropriatcly with regird to Virginin {Giuflze], ha 1 ever
touched her, thal 1 ever met ler, that Thad eve been with her. | was
completely aware oftaat Fhere lad never been any
allegation. She clairns under oat that she told you that secretly m
2011, but you have produced no notes of any such conversation.
You, of course, anes witness fo this aleygtion and will be deposed
0 witness Lo this allegation. | believe it is wn entirely false
allegation that she told you in 2011 that she had had any sexual
contact with me. | think she’s lying through her teeth when she
says thar. And 1 doubt that your uotes will reveal any such
information.
RULE she did tell you thet, she would be shsolutely, calegorically
ying. $01 am completely aware that never, uti} the fics were put
in a leaol pleading at the end of December 2014. it was
never allogad that had any sexual contact wich Virginia Roberts.
Tknow that it was allcgod that T was a wiltess to Jeffrey Psicin's
alieged abuse and that was false. | was never a witness t uny of
Jeffrey Epstein’ sexual abuse. And | wrote hat 10 you, something
thar you have falsely denied. And | stan on the record. Fhe recon
is clear thar | have categorically denied I was ever a wimess fo
any sbuse, that [ever saw Jofliey Epstein adusing anybody.
And — and the very idea that 1'would stoned and talk 10 Jeffrey:
Epstein while he was receiving oral sex from Virginia Roberts,
which she $10ro 10 under oath. is $0 OL REO, 50 PFOPSIETOLS.
that even Dovid Boies sail he couldn’s beficve if was trie.
MS. MeCAWLEY: | object. I object, Tm not going o allow you (a reveal
uny comveesalions that huppened in the cox ofa szclemeat discussion.
THE WITNESS; Does she have standing?
HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_010768
Edad, nce vs, Deslunetc
Cesc No: CACE 15-0007
Fitts und Cassels Response to Desshornice's Motion Deter Confidentisiy of Cost Recurcs
Pee 13.0720
MS. McCAWLEY: I have a standing objection and, Vim objecting again. lm
nal going i
THE WITNESS: Noy, no, mir. Does she have steading in this deposition?
MR. SCOTT: Let's take a brcak for a mise, okay?
LTE WITNESS: Fm ot sure she bas standing.
ME. SCAROLA: Ate we finished with the speech?
MR. SCOTT: No. the
MR. SCAROLA: Td like im Io finish the spec so that we can getto my
question
and then we can take a break
A. So the question — the answer to your question is
MR. SIMPSON: Wait a rinute. Wail a inutc. Wait a minute, Please dont
disclose something that she hus right 1o raise that objection if she wis
MR. SCOTT: Tally.
Deposition of Alen Dershowity (Oc 15, 2015) al 93-05 Gutiached as Exhibit 1; see
also Deposition of Alan Dershowitz (Oct. 16. 2136) (ullached as Tixhibit 2) (also containing
discussion of Ms, Giuffe’s atfidavi.
The Court should he aware that within approximately two hours af this exchange, Ms.
MeCawley. (David Boles” law partner) released u sualement vn bis hehalf, which stated that
Dershowitz was misrepresenting what happened: “Because the discussions that Mr. Boies had
with Mr. Deshawit, wore expressly privileged seatiement discussions, Ms. Boies will no. at
least at this time, describe what wus actually said. Flowever, Mr. Boies docs state That Mr.
HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_010769
Edwards Brady vs. Desshonsz
Case Ne: CACE 15000072
Edwards wd Canclls Respono in Dershowis's Motion w Desonnine Conley uf Cour Revords
Page 3 0i20
Dershowitz description of what wis aid is nol rue.” Statement of Vis. McCawley on Bebilf of
David Bois (Oct. 1, 2015).
More broudly, the Coust ca readily see from this passage how Dershowit is willing tn
mject into he record a part of Ms. Ciiudtee's affidavit whenever it serves: his purpose - and
indeed. to charsctctize the part of the affidavit as “preposterous.” Bud then he asks this Court to
place the undaalying alidyit imder seul, so that the Edwards and Cassell stand acoused having
filed a “preposterous” atfidavit without anyone being able 10 assess the validity of Dershowits’s
aac.
Persone: has referred 10 the court recurs lat he now wishes 10 have the Court delim:
confidential cot only in his deposition, but alzo in his widely-broadcast media attacks on
Tidwards wad Cusell. For example, Pershawity appesred an the Briish Broadcasting
Corporation (the BIC) and was asked about the allegations:
Well, fist of all they wore made in court papers that they don't even ask for a hearing
fot to prove them. They pat thom in con papers in order to fmmanize themselves
from any consequences liom u defematian sit. The story is tolally pide.
ap, completely out of whole clith.
F dont know this woman. 1 was not at the places a the times. 1 is past of # pattern of
made up stories against prominent people and world leaders. And the lawyers in
recent statement challenged me to deny the allegations under oach. { 2m doing that. |
am doyiog them under aath, Hus subjecting me to # perjury prosecution were Tot
telling the truth. 7 am now challenging: Gem to have their client pt thes charges
wider oath und for the to put the ander oath. 1 tah also challenging the to repeac
them outside ofthe context of court papers so that I can suc theo for defamation...
And wil prove beyond any doubt na only that the story fs totally alse, buf it was
Knowingly false: thal the bawyers and the client conspired iogether to create a five
story. That is why Lam moving far their disbarment in ¢halleriges 16 be provided fo
the disciplinary commie.
BEC Radio 4 - Sarah Moniague (Jan. 3, 2012) (hwpifiswur: bho.colprogrammesinQ2gTghe).
HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_010770
Edwards, Brey vs. Dusshavri
Case Noi: CACE (5000072
Edvard ond Cael Respanss to Destaset's Motion 1 Deternize Conti of Cou Records
Pat 150020
Similarly, Dershowicz appeared on NBC's Tog Show the moming adler Dd vwards wd
‘Cassell made a filing for Ms. Giuffre, 10 3ay that the Edwards and Cassell — and VIS. Giuflre
were all “lying” in the court documents:
Question from Savannah Gathrie: J Tegal papers from the ayers, hey say you's
bad, in fact, the appartunity to be depsed.
Answer from Alan Dershowitz: They're lying. “They ee lying.
Question: They show letters in which they offered to depose you.
Answer: And they did't show my leters in respanse saying, (a), If ou ask me hoot
my legal relationship with Fpvstcin and PL] be happy to answer... And L responded
thu 1 would be happy 10 be deposed if you could give me any indicasion that ! would
he a relevant witness... They will he proved — ll of them [1.c., Cassell, Edwards.
snd Ms. Glugtie| to be caeyoncalry yg snd making up thie lors. And it will bea
terrible thing for rape victims... We [Epstein and Dershowitz] hed sn acadernic
relationship, } was never in the presence of a single. young, soderaged
woman, When 1 was with hin, it was with prominent scientists. prominent
academics. And they're just — sgn ~ ying about this. 1 never saw him doing.
anything improper. Tas not a participant. Twas nol u witness.
Today Show, Jan. 22, 2015 (emphases added).
As auother example, in Miami Jerald, Dershowitz called the Joinder Motion that he
sceks to have sealed “the sleaziest lega document} lute ever seam. They [Tdwards and
Cussefl] runipstuled a young, suggesliok: womso who was farerested in money. This is a
disbausable offase, and they will he disbarred. They wil ruc the day they over made this false
charge against me” ~ Le. Edwards and Cassell will “rus lhe day” they ever fled the Joindor
Motion. Mini Herald (Jan. 3, 2015).
HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_010771
Eduard, Brady va. Dershowi
Cane Nol: CACE (5.00002
Edwards and Cascell Response lo Dershawi 's Mosion us Determine Confdantislicy of Cour: Records
Page 160020
Most remarkably, Dershowitz taak the public sirwaves a represent that he wated all of
the information surrounding the allegarians to “oe made public.” while implying that Edveards
and Casscll hd something to hide. For example. on the BRC he claimed tht he
wanted every hing 10 be rude public”:
Q Would you encourage that it now be mud public?
Ai OF course. of course. | want everyihing fo be wade public. 1 warm
every Bit of evidence in this case to be made public. 1 want every
alfegatton to be made public. | vent 10 know who clse she’s aceused of
thes: homible crimes. Ws know that sbe accused Bill Clinton of being on
Jefficy Epstcin’s isleud und participating in sex orgy with underuge
girls. The records of the Sexaet Servic will prove that President Clinton
neve sel foal on that island. So hat she Tied. Naw its possible to have u
case of mistaken identification with sooebody like me. Is impossible to
have a case of mistaken idcuification with Bill Clinton.
My only focling is thw if she bas liod abo me, which I know 10 am
shsolute cerlyinty she hus, she should not he helieved about anyone
else. She's lied clearly shout me, she's fied clearly zbout Bil
Clinton. We kpow thar. We know that she's licd about other public
figures, including » forme prin winister und others who she claims to
have parCcipated in scx] activities with, So T hiok it must be presumed
hat ll of her allegations against Prince Andrew are false a3 well
think he [Prince Andres] should clear the 2ir a3 well
1 jou'te squeaky clean and if you have never done anything lie this. you
must fight back with all the resources available to you. And that's what I
will do. J will not rest or stop uniil the world understands no only that 1
ad nothing to do with any of thi, but thal she defiherely, with the
connivance of her Tawyer, lawyers, male up this sory willfully and
Tnowingly.
BBC Radio 4 - Sarah Montague (Jan. 3, 2015) (spies bbe, so ukiprogromies pa Tubs).
In another widely-broudeast interview on CNN, Dershowitz implied that these is no
evidence supporting the zleytions 2gatnst bi:
HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_010772
ibrar, Truly vs, Dershurete
Case No: CACE 13.000072
Lihat nd Cassels Nespas vo Deshi Motion 1 Denis Confident of Cour Records
Page 170120
Ask the [Ecwards and Cassell] if they have en evidence .... They're doing it for
‘municy. Shes gelling money for having sold her stay, She wants to sell the book.
They're trying Lo get Into ihis lawsuit. They sce 4 pot of gid at the ond of he
rainbow. They're [idwands and Cassell prepared t le, cheat and steal. These sre
nncthical lawyers. his is Professor Cassell who shoulds’t be allowed near a
student, This is Professor Cassell, who is a former federal judze, thank God be uo
longer wars & robe, He is cssomdally a crook. He is csseatially somebody who's
distorted the legal profession. . . Why would he chuge x person with a
Sterling repulaticn for SO years an the basis of the word aloe oF u soma wh is
serial Jiar, who has lied about former Prime Ministers, former Presidents, hus lied
demonstrably.
CNX Live ficih Hala Goran) (January 5, 2615). Of corse. by placing “the evidence” inthis
case under seal, Dershowits will be free to coninue io ry and msinwaie that Edward and Cassell
— ara thelr client, Mv. Ginffre ~ had io evidence supporting the allogsions agains: Fim, ever
sungh a mouain evidence strongly suppord Ms. Gifies aliegadians. See Depuituon of Paul
Cassell fer. 16. 2015) an 61-117 (Exhibit 37; see ais Depo of Pal Cassel] (Oct. 17, 2045)
(Fishibir 4),
CONCLUSION
“The Court should deny Defendant Counterclaien Planiff tau Dershowitz’ motion to
place documents regarding Ms. Giaflre's sllcgations against him under sca].
THEREBY CERTIFY that a true and correct copy of the foregoing was sent via B-Serve
10 all Counsel 00 the artached list. this ___ 237% _ _ day of November, 2015.
0 Fuck Seana }
Jack Seerola
Florida Bar No: 169440
Anomey E-Maills): jexd@isearcvlaw com and
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Fant, abe vs. Decsaovcz
Case Noi: CACE 15.0002
Fans ud Cassell Response to Dershowits Maton termi Coalideatiality of Coust Records
Pago 18 of 20
SEAND. REYES
Utah Attomey General
By: JONTJ, JONES
JOTL A, FERRE
Assistant Utsh Aflomeys General
Bradley J. Eacads
TDWARDS, FISTOS & LEHRMAN, P|
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Paul G, Cassell
Pro Hac Vice Motion Pending
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Edwards Bradley ws. Deane
Ge No: CACE 1.600072
Baad snd Camels Reszonse bo Dreshowins Motion to Decne Confident uf Count Resonls
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Cae No: CAC 13000072
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Attonucys for Paul Cassell
Bradley J, Edwards, Esquire
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Leluman, PL.
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CASE WO.: CAC 1S-000072
LRADLLY J. EDNBEDS ang 230L G
cagsELL, ,
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L poopie that abused virginiz?
2 A. I told yea I nover asked her the guessien. 11:36:21
: Q. Are you aware thal yeazs befoze Decetner 11:26:48
4 of 2004, when Lhe CVA pleading was filed, thal your
5 name hed come vp repeazediy ia connection with
§ Jaffray Eostein's abuse of minors, correct?
i MR. SCOTT: Objeciica, fom, Overly broad. 11:37:16
5 A. Zel ne answer That questien. I am awsze FIRES
9 that never before 014, end ol Decorber, waa ii
10 ever, ever alleged that T had acted in any way
11 insppropriately with regazd to virginia Keberts,
12 that I ever Leuched her, that T ever ket hex, that ©
13 hed ever baen with hee. I was completely aware of
14 thal. fhere Rad neve: beca any allegation
1% She clains under oath tha: she sole you 11:33:48
16 that sscresly in 2811, bul you have prodiced ne
17 aotes of any sven conversation. You, of course, are
18 a witreas zo this allegazicn and will be deposed as
12 a witness Zo this allegavicn. 1 believe it is an
20 entirely false slleallor taat sae told you in 2811
71 that she had had any sexusi contucl with me. I
22 think sae’s lying thicush her Teeth when she says
22 that. Aud I debt that your moles will seveal any
24 such informaticn.
2 But if sho aid tell you that, she would be 11:38:24
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1 ebsolulely, categorically Lying. So T am completely
2 aware tact never, until the lis ware put in go legal
3 oleacing al the ead of December 2014, it vas never
4 alleged that I Fad any sexsal contact wilh virglala
5 Robercs.
6 1 know shat it was ellsged thet [ was o 12:30:46
7 wilness Lo Jelf:ey Epstein's alleged asuse and thas
§ was false. I was never a wilness lo any of Jeffrey
a fpatein'a sexual abuse. And I wrote tAIT to yom,
10 sometaing that you have falsely denied. Aud I stand
17 on the record. Tae record le clear shar T have
12 categoricaly cemiad I wus evar a witncss to any
13 cbuse, Lhat i eve: saw Jeffrey Fpstein abuslug
1¢ anyoody.
I] Bnd + and the very idee that & womid 15:39:18
5 stand ard talk To Joffrey Fpatein while he wis
17 receiving oral sax frum virglala Roberts, which she
18 swere Lo under oash, is 30 outragecus, ac
13 prepostersus, thal even David Soles said he couldn't
20 oelieve ii was true.
21 VS. VECMULEY: I object. i obiect. I'm 11:35:43
22 net going to llow you To reveal any
23 conversazions that happened in the contex: of a
24 selllenent discission.
23 TUE WITNFSS: Does she hove standing? 11:33:46
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i WE. MCCAWLEY: I have 2 standing objection 11:39:43
2 ang, I'w gbjecting again. I'm ros going to -—-
3 | THE WITNESS: No, 40, no. Does sho havo 11:39:49
4 atending Ln his deposition?
5 HR. SCOIT: let's -ake a break for a 1:39:51
6 xinule, okay?
¥ THE WI™MESS: I'm nol sure she ras 17:39:54
a standing.
EH NR. SCRROLE: Are ve [inished witha the 11:39:57
ie speech?
1 MR. SCOTT: Ne. Lf ac —- 11:20:58
E HX. SCRROLA: T'd like hix Lo fliaish Lie 11:33:59
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4 Ther we can texe 2 beak.
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1 MK. SIMPSON: Weit a minuze. Wal. z 11:46:04
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19 somethiag that she has a right Lo ralse Laal
2 objection if she wants to.
21 BR. SCOLL: Bxactly. 11:45:13
22 THE WTINZSS: Okay. 11:14
23 MR. SCOT: Rsk your question. 11:40:17
24 MR. SUEDSR: Maybe you want to read buck 11:00:20
25 the last couple of senteraus.
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imi A the — thek undurwae Gite such 36 Virgiala Roberts wore [ous 4 Q. Iatrahak ap. Vac cir ovanes hs H
wns § haing flown internationaity from, for example, Tetrbora [meire § Fame -- macro hs name eres + bat nlf you i
vast 6 in Neve ork = to lotions, at pick on. you nse 6 ocean sz wt
owes 7 Ano tor sxomple, in dom, whars again Sexist abuza [aims 7 A That corms. We wera hing shout
wos 8 vim occurring. ice 8 fctuol basin, ad 1 4 lad — I Ed you thst there
pe Ad ou tartan to pur esgetner is sin 3 wn otha Ings I a wi, fac bass for = or
wos 10 yatta of enmity et was started in this you | wae 10 Wi. Derstiondts, Til bo atid to dd het in, Lat me
ra 11 Kn, T dat now what the igh werd bs hare. Tat [ure 11 8's = etme fet mo woud Kis Lo supplenant
moc 12. vr 9X don't want to you brew, you've heard [aie 12. my smber thf cute
sie 13 dicusions of ymboby 0d tinge Io that ture [ons 13 Q D9 pe wart 12 ose sto Securit
dew 14 have grt ha as of — of ~ Ind Twenty sosken, [nou 14 A Yes
wre $5 bu we hu tis mt of const Por t= [a 05 Q Let refs Fos wn shaun ou
rn 15. sce tobe sprog Egat nin in Naw | ars 16. neces wv dn we {21710 cence St
neon 17 Yor € seems tobe speeding n Gitatne bisxwelts [wana 17 auld ee 13 tt at nt
met 18. fakin Londen, an -- end — 30 1 oss on. ss 18 sir Dee a 3m rer
oy So these sec the Mindz of things that would [sax 19 A No.
wen 2D haus formas tha the the bis, particulary when | vn 20 Mo SCARUAA: Ard eo sa ha os ies
sia 2 you = wien you stat sedi thi cl: Wht the J A pe
1a 22 Palm — going back nour 0 Ford eth th PIM BGS ara 22 pve Fo, ln ASE pou be Some
2 23 Polos iepaetmant, What he Pati Basch Poll fomw 28 noses ne cumin isthe nen sabe 5 H
yan 24 Dogaitment has -- had discousred was not 3 one-off kind “v3 24. anc 36 vou arden the nhwieaes $0 er i
Len 25 of vant, vou knows, on one particu dur ene fran25 gaat be mls tat no cue,
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feat G-unit ru A1 sutousectiors, and tot sro wir iome
et A mem ea 12. rt ra ight bt et thos eer + common
fraud Qe ys were revi xe. [ras 13 scheme or plan. And that, fust a6 Visglnls Roberts vas
[ema 1a A 50 hal -- what I'm Going to do is, I'm going cus 14 being trafficked to those powerful people in vartous
Tn 15 omaha hrs an un mlepad ofa rons 15. loc, the ht well o or ot.
were 46 things, and then I'm going to compare that with notex | eae 16 Art se T pun mentioned u fight bog, snd bet
wr 37 i bre here may bea coup BAG ht Tonto 17 Jou you ent 10k aout We. Bushs, G1
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22 wet pe Fi |
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tear 6 MR. SCAROLA: Do you mead the resporas oad one § ised sare. [ mesn, we juss eve ba selle :
bn NE VNESS: Yoh, (akon dais, own ToL stan cut,
Lc 8 pets Tp py} MR STSON- <a0%, 1 recon, tie sar thing
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wo THE TIES: en, 160% it er int [Lars 10 WR. SCARE Ho. ;
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wee 15 ancy what ve toning in dS dug We cnt th al om dors. he ay
er 18 nd un a ds lr Elen pn 15 GIS rs Tn 3 on raha
THAT walang waren wi bom dita {rs 7 Ho se soo a Son net, yo el
Vw Cason en ups fue pe
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od et stan [read chmatraation, stot me oy he
woes 21 ani 50 what 1 diszavered when { started te. [omen 20 siquimerzation
WB User mn fpn vs sana |1an 23 oss he smart
24 ton Darts, Sng rhea, wel rn, | ore 28 AR SHPSON: Ko Trai.
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ni 2 Sc of IB 100m Fs Beer GITECISS 3 tons 2 abou Dersovez.
pt arin (ng msn | oer 4 kom tether ets at tid 1
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fran acterization. Tha Is anomar attarmey wm § Epstein is at the top, 5a You 70 to the next.
rato preigien irs wan mwionsiaatmtian wonton |
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at mi——————— ron? w—spmarr—at ot e—r——. |
ms veimvemarens tres von T8 hot soveolr eset stat beon east ste
con 14 vou rund einer 14. victims, bat thay conlinuad to -« what they would do le
ra 17 ure Pat uervbody nas qilat = ernss 17 Andl 3 whist — 3 the Ak person 1 wanted to
' 1 HK. SEWSCH: Anger. cies 18 talk to, you Kio, and got information from wes Soak |
pista —— or 15 atin, Son etins ona seston |
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zn ss: Ang Le me ck [rt 21 Epstein an others, and so wanted to nk to Soh
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ww 3 aon Lean 3 Ana thom there was Merci — Miss Marcinkore.
hip pose—— [ve 4 hse tks. Set ae Ahad
wae 7 By MR SINEON {3oex 7 both tha ton Mngoin of the sex trafficking
wow BQ Guay. Cony stun er? [i= 8 crpaniention and the net scheion ha tke the Fifth,
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Len 20 internation sex trafficker vio taking We Fil naw. 10a 20 auraament vas bighty umusual.
1m 21 sehen askin ious Mr. Deshantz. tow 2t 3-1 had been 3 feders) prosecotor for
Lien And wa Tvme stymalad In brying to get ran 22 about four years, I hind been o federal jude for shoot
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me § close auote. vo 8 noting = ina tawyeryient capacty; isi in i
wax 10 Ana 5 that wes unum brodise what it = 1000 10 tena capacity. :
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Sn 12 seman nse auf the sort ad rn {on £2 ie ne hi gout ic wre. Ang one
ie 13 dein to aves 1 ine Beas tat might coe 3 fh he the Ee ok kd, !
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x 15 arte ot sweep bunt the van 18 ae erer
as 18. people tha were veld Inmagine may coe 16 Aohutogra or Via Tovar x svmte |
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Te 18 hei ened, not st in of he oem 18. homes a8 yout. Ybor ad os
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an 20 tacit crt of tae ie 3d sig foes 20 a Cin Tr i
rm 21 sim Mo om rt ems « Sil oe 21 the wim arbors on oni a
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leona 23 weds — 1 dont want to uze a technicel term, ev 23 and doing this four or five times s yew.
Tex 38 somermachd ht dfeee srry wh magn [vs 28 ow Ale wi oe nt on. Thar 36
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nd J ——— ore 6 shor my o's te ot ts sm mh sins
far 10 So the next stop was to say, okay, let's see if we can 11710 Department reports showing that mazsnges are of n sesual |
rer 11 na samenac, vou know owes etn he oa knows, | ves 1 maar san tae pt wd stn, |
era 13a benebold splot or svviing Bh tat arta [rn 12 oreo te hve ht wo pce 1
oo 13. ween srt tration ba Yo oe, wives 13 rant abot Radi iat acs ho Rd
ra 14 cia ovat dn. va 18. Vt on tas 9 was bn ats aie mock
16 ave te pana of ho of tha imi a EO SY
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ree 28. inconstences, And zo tat, xan, browind ny nde ctmewmoeemenommeeriam |
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a3 sanded vermin, bron December 206, 1 11s 3 ores nad nrc tn repront Vii ROSS
mua 4 was aware that one of the pricminent mye: in san 4 wich gave me additional confidence In the fact
et 5. tho United Sats, David Boi, od saree to {ave 5 UNLT mas is rpreseing young woman im
we © Treat Vina Rober, Ange twas | Low 8 her sir to ring sex aekers to ote,
Sonn 7 io F aking hat — as, 4 Kn, iss | an 1 30d hose wha had sexual abusod er o tice.
wo 10 tin the door ee 8 a 50 thus on tings, Bak sm to id
re 8 MI SIMPSON: Colt Liners? [mean || vaa 5 immediacy oi-- 6 m fst ake second and
ot 10. thio ars iy towords 3 svar ere. Taro son there ws cher things regains
men 11 MG. KeCAMISN. Yosh. Nor nos oy 1 do 61 | wee 11 Darshomts tat «tht come lnmistatls =
ores 12 MR. STMPEON: We can't have Lastmony sn 12 immediately to mind,
we 13 about -- ror 13 Oh. one of the things was in 12 Jane oe 102
a NS MeCAMLEY: Yeoh. “oie 1a eimpint whih sheged scadamicans that nad
vais MR SIMISON- ~ Uri one theo | 15 oathad shused- soxuol abused ane Doc,
718 respected poopie nh county, Gf Be In| aio 16 hare «har wre s0 tht mis quis
eo 17 the country, and hen yo wont answer De. | 7 obvious, of ha mcr Uh mcdicion tht Ba
Si questons vee 18. Sonat ho nine?
rte THEWITSS: Oy. Tis Liane, scab. Let me the
TEE MR SINPRON: you id nt lu snar. | io 20 record shoud be dear, cont rod
UTE MS WCAWIEY: Oh vie, desing Gavid [owes 21 Imaciatly whether 4 ms ial o pre.
ez acts gener — Seat T2 TE may Sse hn ral, ul % gr,
men 23 MRL SIMPSON {agree with oc dscristion, | vem 33 don] ant 1 Soggest tt hee vere ctr
MS. CAWLEY: - dost consis a [vi 28 cadena, stot est one scadmicon hd
ons eer i025 senusly sbuscd Jone Doe 3, accor a 125
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ow 1 NR SINPSON: esa detmuished myer, [mess 1 complaint that Fad toes ted by ob seit
Ti 3 NR CHOU And Tort Cin re [ne 2 Tare wer oa tongs that wee of ntrset
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or 4 pk ret 25 4 Sat tet get mfr fo bso |
cs ssn: ce 1 mom 5 ss in th it, nad raced or dcinad
eo 6 NSMCCAWLSN Butlsperudatoyou= |own 8 tole an ance to that complain.
ea 7 MR, SIMPSON: Bo waver eee 7 Mather thm damp the llegtins, ho od,
im 8 MS MCAS. ~ ation me kno that. |oim § sltmately, sms understonin — 1 nt she
Was THEWITHESS. Ainge {wilbe— Iw [ws 8 sie infouration snd Fm nol tying fo wae
ev 10. not waive anything, ondif {Stato do hat, 1 [ava 10 omy formato, ty destanding i that
11 voi crn rest 1 Soper 10-10 wa 11 <a than ase the compl, he etic the
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Ts ou ase ance “oii 16 and Ihave conferred sta resk, us wil rend |
sam 46 appearances far bi rence. wan 17 further to vour question. i
woe AT MR. SCARGLA: Jack Searcls on behaol the |, 43 MR. SCAROIS: All ight. So that the record.
Lads amis amen 19. i clear, it 1s ur posta HE the recording
ON chard Span of Wied RAIN. | esc 20 sel, any evidence of any communication between
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fans 8 we xno thal the recording existed and that it wre 8 regarding your inadequate priviseoe loa. ¥
ve 3 mat obvious ate accorting ta ths larm 8 HE. WCAWLEY, ust efoe ne besin fm |
Laan 10 representations given to us, prior to the inex 1D sory, 1 GIL AMouUNce my appearance for the. i
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C12 His tre Defendants poston tht 1s {ies 13 ustis a repest on ne record. H
on 18 csr for nto progount a new dhsencry on 98 MR, SCOTT. Fo bese hat yu got tof
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iirc 18 Fave been discosed In ecparse ta the earlier urax 16 V5. MECNALEY. With respacttn excuse me. |
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wu 20 youu have mischaracherized Professor Desshowit2's wea 20 NY testimony here: today, and hat 1 object to
we 21 Sesmony. You FG aek the question sheer [men 21 any Taster shoe? har woud be used 2 2
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form 7 devon sopra eee somes thi een i by | mo, 7 [A TE
Fawr 8 #r. Dassiowits. fae Byam ao alan cies i
pis ART i isdn H
JOT E———— fs 10 Pape i
so 11 pracsicing low — kaw since about 1988, A #4 my. wae 11 A WITHERS: There mas a menses Lt |
rin 12 sprees Rive mee ana iors esha Tort bas 12 NEA 5 Ft Wades asep ThA !
Sra T3 Sold Sing GUAR, 00 vanoBy NOU | au 13 promot mri, thc sv be, es
Your 14 tno tht acta auctions coma nat boasnes [wu Mac mac cet ersetntons, a1
Deut 15. oy torn, ana wimeszeaovecthe on ovo ders, [uss 13 respec es buses vessaper ro hy
we 10. te, Devore acts. avin of ar gle Mo 18 rape du Fed eos ho i, tot ian
seve AT ution; vse wart yo on ts doy owe [scan $7 oe tse.
an 18 nama; or hake, gs Wha het, ad tend ct, | am 8 J
cv 19 ya know, ahi 3 — sn cmc Sewer, he nde up [wine 19 cnt Use on ak ine
20. ging very exert anes commonly puncte with | nove 20 tt ant tel ig bs
wer 21 digaenging varie tat sewer abavt oti nd | own 22 Span ht creas a
TE wilh seri to tons wz sae nd ar,
nm £08 rw tna era fom tht st eB mo sscatn eon Gerona
i 24. Nr Dorshowts canok wart 0 snes tons or the | pag 24 lira a esse adn «vor a
an 25 ime vader. wre B retain bbe, deletes
EsauRe cerosmon sau ous JS —————
son swan da smi
ie es EET TRETSAT
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Ma [Re ——— ce 2 och my rcsbscton ant Pearl
en AY foc de
ri & tamton, an ho 0 tw 3 fc 4 [Ee ——
coi 5 ee atanor 1 nverargs wr 8 renbitonon nin vos vt
1 re EATERS: 0g. TA a ch
xm 7 tt eed be ne ae san 7 yeeros
bow 3 wo oniwntcwn goog deewmmim nts [wens 8 or SPSON. Ful, it or
lowe 8 axninancrne nape Heer Cane cow 8 ovr os momesromion. Torus
04710 sex tating ta v2 va San md cen 10 aang st rrioasons,
cnt nc dont, ers cane er 41 SEAR: vec cern, i
an f2 camo Tinea he ud, i, cn 12 ET
fen 13 comand deer 1 le rs wr 13 totam.
wir a mes ut or 5, Cee tat NE Ps
BO
wn t8 bad shied veh cea saan, he: Ln 18 A Yeah Late mark az an cabbie youd
nan 17 as en Thustar. ons VT kes This 5.2 memory aid to me.
pov Ane ue ay, Pan, ee hat [RT py
wien 18 I Cesar int Sn 19 A Yer Ta. ANKE Late sea A page
EO SE Sry PON TRON ———
ro 21 red; eminem, a snake ard ant 21 Thy’ estmony, hr, Dershowitz wes si. Que:
ONE SE Sa ST a 22 You hove thr Virgil Roberts ot th oy eran
PROT “i223 ia hac cm ander ost (it you ere present st
win 24 eter areca y Depot hn a 24 Sete Eostirs Pain Beach har ith young ai, |
cm 25 am woo twa or be hese JOT —— i
[re — SQUIRE DEFCSMON SOLUTIENS |
nara wwe
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on 1 meg er ve wgwevdenbe tas on 1 hut amend no be flor st te very |
ace 2 bnisiton on 2 beast rising tectimany give tar br. Doshi |
oes 3 oe oe test or easly ages a 3 tne tht usm Alea, among patty ives pecs
[mas & satmarts ontnun, suse, sows in care 4 ha enced i os havi been nthe presence of
lacs 5 cannes marerot nen. Te ey aie cr 6 Sut Epon mud yours i th Flora arin
jou 8 gwen. ic a0, tndose, hag tied = potageaph of Virgina
town 7 Ore of er wtb sec repsdec 1 feos 1 Roberts
fom 8 inerarranstign bes or fa B tps 104 o ths transcrip, Me. Dersnowtex
fon 8 peru stents Be Vai akotets vor 8 wes asked quot All ofthe mens ha hava been
JOSIE Ha fe) on 10 prodwed ts Wigatia, the anes he you say
int onanssme ton sre had so nt ak {avin 11 comatorate your tasty 3 exons Yu,
JR —— Jirce 12 demons tht you nvr fl sey Essie
re 13 Goria tus bes, ich vi es2 13. piancin the company of your vik, cones Anew:
foe tt aaron ea 84 Nath’ not rvs, %dan'ehn thet
foi 18 Satin my ot, tan 2a 2 ats Aud, again, I to coma of hs igtian
lou 16 save. tratten ioames awn rs espn ai 16 wher the Hight ops Nave been, a he question that
ES TT a —— Sc 7m smavering tends show, ace 20 cera for
1B ive ore ta Se stan the. wiv AB Derahonit u ety under at tht he didn move
J ey Siro 15 mete is ir vo deck Eh gt 10, stick
wn) rmnesnd reason oh 358 se 20m 32,4 Rn Very es, TUGGING fortin,but 1
nan ?l te en 2 conclude my option waz acu debertshy Toke
jon That wesc proand ay ue dren, | xan 22 information pai, given ti Wigston whece
wae moh nic bas ber oval Jo Re ——
aT re ace re ih Tian 28. record wt 0a i Stave ecards or the
an 25 ames ve pe wr. acu 25 relevant period of time. |
CHOURC BCS TEN SOON COURS CROTON SLUMS i
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an Satta tha wes, asi » dembernte Fave 1 1ogn ANST contd inves wy sacntcton here by
IE SI sep me RH J
vn 3 fumes imeem ne tat set | en 3 pesmamers esses onary ste
oon 3 tcinarion en 3 sete seca wre wt ome see ements
Toor 8 avis pontine wr bets [co 5 of conic eee the Ome Koen fhm
rs Pena wet “re ni ssi 1 cal the A rhe |
lca 7 chal round ony strmstwntea TEINS | sen T ttt, och nt sora reat HO
fran 8 never traveled eutslde the presen of my wc, dices «a 8 toa information. !
sur 8 quote, represwting thd thece would be nu such erie 8 And when you sec those Inconsistencres, it i
1210 tra tor by tS rae of 4 Acne 10 bocsmes ve otc ee tet fo rnin
es 1 tones mrsiomatncoaio wt rv 43. [wes 11 Matos ovina men to mae acncin 50. §
ve 12 201, sett va ean erator manor 28 |cu 12 when Teak aor bot rato, pot topes
ware 13 years, She goes with me everywhere, close quote, And, {cain 13 beheve thot there's sufficicat -- hove a sutficient
ws 14. eeprom eteniontseeetmesieeris ir 8. lair bebe on ened
Toa T5 orga am hi itr Akar on 15. 1 esd os. to edn
To vet nemo Son Tor sangeet Dima imermmtoear ve pmeaTant semen or 4
wot TF Wah, ev ou eum ote tr seve shout ies | a 7 im hs erie-- es soda mevrrs
“oes 18 mins whee you inh ov eecend wht Viiin | i 8 irs seous comers bern stl,
pul Sigua Wd eters county epi ot
PS —— wo 20. tevin ams nd arnt on mb
at prspemme— lt EY
py “Tra so std sent: ovotvaravs | oer 23 scsi er. ae !
CEE UEP SLUTS cou IC oCPoGToN Salons i
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! in Fa
Yaar 1 somerset gu simp trsmmot. [wins 1 sennsnn songhig |
en # har scberaeae mrmatn eco on 2 amma: §
nie 7 with ls 26m around Viegiola Roberts, standing next 03 wien 7 vas
[ove 3 weep Grammmwin ra er———— J BB, Tiny yn
{wre 10 Aad in the croumsenwes of that photograph, © ox 10 dep wl Ure pe ed aterm?
i Renita tonTpt dr Sn i Yo—T—rotl bi mid
wen 12 tte wn ot dof te tit 56 2212 tava dre rr. Dos mt
CTE emer sro pL aro en movi |
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wer 16. stare or floes vt aren brates | ee 16. int ses tery a ol
we 11 memati tose ovr rt 1s | on 7 praise
"ta 18 mir tommenkatons wlth cht abt whet bvss |e 18 ah su ran BAR
won 18. og with fe Sra. BS rh Getter
— ot ete bo it 0 oe Bs wh TB i bi,
wn Zh ppt ta moe mm——— [oe 20 plegeisigin
nT weve de tat ata bu sn [nea 22 tara. Fn +-
wT wera a ite ort 1 siraerwemeree sate Seo
LVI the youkim tur remus abet [oon 35 bemant,
Fv DERORTO So TO pr ——
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EZR ES
coe HY SIHESON: win 1 purty de.
wo 2D. Weore Womestay or chs meek, you taduse Lures 2 BYR, SIMPSON:
care 3 a8 momar hae at cee apt frome 30 wy cwestun, on cost ie: You reversal
cm 8 Professor ershaite's esr, career fous 4 tho hght os, amos
ara § A Comet we 5 A come
axe § Q Tuga Wiosketmy mies erzofyar |x 6 Q You reviewed dren in some deat cones
fiver 7 tong maser, ut one tg ou edt sasche [xe 7 A Comect
Foie 8 fact thot Prosser Dsbontz gave log ansare aor BQ Tstheroms ante on those Bras
ferns 8 someln wdicseun cf take sneserzor sonny i
Lamm 10 HR. SOROLA: Tht ier in 10 ti bokerts on ce sc staves !
fo 11 fr SSR: watt A We
imerf2 Q -svate comet2 @ Andso vou testimony about stions shone
fan 13 SCAR A: 1 natant vn 13. the cematctences an carey cr shee ah fogs oes
wie 14 ohisacheiaion of the sal ant tek 20018 instr he tg arb eps that. H
ene 15 PrfesorCenml ade. Hedi mle ote [uns 15 The ence Uhl you gece el your sion |
man 6 lrgihor coarser, bet rather hoi 1616 55 your cows 3 to ene com iteness ne ge
NE — Yeme 17 teas and rene they may hws boon charges n some.
sa 18 TH spp: fevam 16. wy, resto wheres oc ge ae vce, rat
a1 Qn Lele me snk s fet question. laces 18. whether thay, fc, ups Frfesso Dera =
wn 20 Go back Lo the MIL fags Lhen:subves. fumes, 20 testirvony Gi he wes at 1 8 sine wth Vira
2 A OK Tans 21 Raden
c2 Op naa tot got song dunn | wen 22 MR SCROLS: i 30 to chet te en
Lae 23 sven Bt re Hm a at gs fon 28 cre question coun ed shane, 1 dent
cout 24 Uses spon Profi Derstomesteiany st | seca 24 undentend
wes 25 hema roveran a sian th digina Rabat, he face | ave 25 THE WITNESS: Aad wore ghe a org ans,
RSQUIRE DEPOSITION SOIATONS ESSE OPPOSITION San VTIONS
tory 1cdz0 65031 det
El EQ
ao 1 of hf og pa tot sro sa 1 Y= thnk, a6 proc inane, yu
wis 2 A. The face ofthe fight logs for the celevont | nem 2 canis bok ee fe of hase covanments
cen 3 porto of ta, we can cal he NOE parca of a o | xis 3 AIOE 31 Ko, a6HSL the Cones
«xs 4 whatever you want, dla not reveal he prasance of |mc 4 ofan namo) sn efi rg cite
co & Mr Dershowite on thase flights, yes. A !
won 8 Q Glen. So curing the pur el, wn § jostosk and dosent and sure et they wre {
ss 7 acolyte’ no Mah fog Ut shaw Vicia wma 7 100 percent scauots mht Ul teing hak
a 8 ona 20 ur Daron on ta soma Wpiate, [cows 8 ome mune, i
oe 8 omer arcs 3 10m, Sypson i
we 10 A Thats my understanding, es. ome 10 Qn am na, halon fc of te
wall @ awe ane 1 fights, eres ori shows iia Raber
um 12 FIR SCAROUA! Brame, Youie-youfie = [vines 12. 2a rofessa Darshwi o the seme lane” H
un 13 5, eA A xn t3 A Thats conact. i
oe 18 SCALA: vi hth ress thors [own 16 Q, ane goon i
wads deiot by mane? va 18 fd so unsertand comely in yr |
a 18 5H SIHPSON: cruz 16. pasion a Uns he att log ney cot be comple |
Jowe 17 Qu Toyour nomsecae, fn c caret tt imc 17 my hae boen cemoad, bet ou da at dau, haton |
own 8 S102 10 ich og ats been rosie ns ssa cow 18. har ac, i spp of asce Descote's
Funan 18 tay ny purty that raflocts Profesor Dershowitz ard rune 18 tectiteanyi
Huan 20 Voi Raber sth sae plane, a vou red he cam 20 HR SCAROLR: Objection
foun 21 Agr toa? on 21 WE, MCAnLEN: Cbjectin.
foun 22 HR SCHROLA: Tsay. re vou asking ons 22 HR SCAROLR Camp
fone 23 wnctrar those am names sspeor ca tho gly [um 28 TIO VAITHSS: Oni et spgrage rat
EO ron 26 17145. sn5ON
wa 28 HR. SINFSCH: My euatan, | buck, i in 25 Q. You oon Ure objections vey wet.
i 'CSQUIEDEROBITION SOLUTIONS | ESQUINE DEFOSITON SOLUTIONS
Eo 33100 ! 550 3314100
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2 Sto sven PSA a AT
mth we en & A. monte andeceantng vem
fore 5 times mi 8G habla ents |
wa 6 A. = tollawing their newer. we 6 CeposTIon, he descides She Lider oath 200 Sips ONAT H
00 temas mon PR H
nt weno eos 3. don't nave sccoloctin ot clint
Sona sum Than, Pg A
TAG Townsman stone ori 0B GA wh a niet, 3
LEXY gt, st on qo a ect 730 [orn 11 Women io or soto tm
wm 13 A Correct. Lae 13 ariptoyeri
TMQ meters day don foe $4 SC Eyre ie te
S016. razr hea comment ea T8 mim wesa many ceveer eve
17 i Act, coven pg JUHA
sr 18 Byte sovtson. C18 ummm ht the em de,
on 1S B. -tutbovasetor ve whl Vig 18 mc rl i
D2 A Thee youbnaw thacthe sor tsticking | use 21 314% sms:
S722 ina un by ete Come ba produced ost ight nm 2M) remo tba Me de |
en 23. 10g hh oped sho that hat Bert md | vs 20 ey, eh 3 ol mb Sid |
| Cains cerca ion soLiMoE SSOUREOEPOSMON SLTIONS |
H oo @sti 1-08 1 wn staan 1
I Ee En
j— HR schious: wi. oat 1 the hon fsa ee ree
[oer 2 fe — foe 2 ve apoio, rs a oc
FC I imei GR No BU
own § for bot, St Tor
fon 8 Q termes. vs 8 8. SCARRLA Ye
fon € Gn Yoon 8 summten, Avett roi emer
ww 3 A imeem ttheugiw = fran 8 mom boss bree na nt
po HR SCHOU: ards mms, fear 10 Seok tht 4 ln lis st
tt “ur vues: Tm sony an pos
wan 12 av IR. SATSON; leew tz ‘Boon amnsted a0 chaged WI Sing fram har
A far cpap,
Wik A Cove bout to my thtibe records other {1 14 EAS: Wh se emits ke
rs 16 Brodaced =r ~ Timor fomn 15 ase acon, en teh
ctl TR eres te th pe Jon 8 oemmctt as anes oo on ec prop
LAT pre Lim mses att, sate yo
Ye 19 ito thet hn Vriin Rebere an Alm Dershois |1n 16 Mi Ri 19d iil? fo
Vow 20 sling nen och ther, ve. Tend arene dette eee oo TH
PO ie 1 pasa
GT Wt SP AA
an 28 1nd Ct src sg co youre do [ven eve inaone. edhe? ad + ctmston
scan oon son ncn ERC EVO oN Gena,
Seria Cap OE EGER
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ar 1 ns pice te anes so an 6s kn ene 1 He. es hd sh cht sity in 04
mn eons to loge, RS IRAE [on 2 amet of His Busi or sash fen snake
con 3m gemanenrm Saws wns 3 A. Tolar recs tat. Ithute i there,
few & hee thats sone have. wo 4 youre you'ta making eproseataton, and Know
free 3 A, SWS, mae mo tee 3s [ware 3 vou fins avpes, so XW accept your
as 6 convene, oe 6 representation: H
wor 7 YR ssn: ov Lait recall thst he he was testing
ws BG. Wynne ehh KLRCUE [cna Bea day or two ogo on that subject.
eB up Ie fF unees | mrt a Lis ae. SCaRA: we ave br ga for abut an §
rato VR, SCARCLN: Tina om: Db an d0 hor, hit omota eke brvald foohnt H
wer recat lhe contents Joan tt csavenient for you?
tt Sos: Tr 0g the esson. fiat SON: ean ke 2 rc ne,
nt BAER: on le dessin, | an 13 THE VIGEOURAPAER: We oi ote io
rr 14 rsp Cul YR I An
15 sat ction in 15 seipa a esa wes tos)
rn 18 WR SCALA: Oke. Thank ou. pana THE \ICEQGRAPMER: We 4 back on tr Vika
sa 17 pr sian, wT an, aren,
1G. tacts you our tho ko wr [wn 18 Th ASS, 1 nc tote Eves,
Crt 19 thal you So a abe ais tore ha Profs [vce 19 Lina, ut spsiement th ov secur that
eon 20 Bertoni he ce sii fl eo mia Gave stout the ser of ns.
ome 21 ore rlcant afin ur Khe wis iso 6 | ows 20 Ty oki ut oy ech, Lia hl
HZ Scotian, hoot MSA St OE SGM [aw 22 TS Sth 1 Hm mi 5 he rg
— A Vem cn23 wermomy. re
HOEY wr UT — a2 O11 cs
Sow 28 Sees dpesion nus cate that oft parts co 28 G1 cont = Tr roti to skate 5.
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oni 2 MR. SCAKOLA: Mir. Sunpoor, there was an LI | A. Iwould like to just supplement -- i
Pres 3 exons reference to ar srw 12 interogetory. jean 3 MR SCARGLA: Thal's ine. Thel's fre. If
[oan 8 anche amos amp erica anasto Jun § dors he, ars on
wn § elt in gardens oom savers Po § HE WOCSS: £3 br
J ha ig We SCALA: hk 1220 12 td tak
x 7 [rE — ie 7 Urea an nebveten nisin.
— CANOLA cat wt tory [ce 8 “Te vamess. Yoh.
pO eS BrI SERS
to [rE pe SN FOUTS ———
vo 11 slant tert bo or, Cink a tt ae
rd tose awn watz A Swe
—t 2 SCADA: oes + wn 13 QL teu ves sire, One auestin
ta Wa: +o covey regan | vos 18 Ahan gH gs an,
on 15 HA SARA: 1 abetto yor wets a ola.
wi fh Waser of dasiar timers. 0 |r 16 G.I tks Roh, thet yn bei
wen 47 sc Howes ro arom are Us wr Tm | was 17 26867 koowhdgs 451 hh Persr Dushonz
wn 88 Cort pr con SOIT 130 | we 18 sore other ember of JEANS Ean cen: £m
PA ren 13 regan hos log fo rah the gos ent
oe 20 WA SISO: Tr mt guig an ay st wn 2 A. 1 dome have personal knowkedge of - of
Wn 20 ah To ety obfon ti foun So 21 thal thats right.
aR pee, we 2 GL A vou et, 04 OL ECS
an 2 BY SAH ra 28 OF vr nat RSI. Er
2G quent ahehor su es aware thy | wane 8 rio wet tabs o hs, cir?
er 25 Um tn Por Gebers pled i fe, |wwe25 A. Careet,
CsoURE DEROSMON SOLUTIONS Cou pErosimoN sou TONS
1954) S31ML0. 954) 331-4400
Em RATS CEE
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om 1 Que de mrad yer fom 1 [prep —
JES SRR SA A He ess: Th eon, rcs
[ging wm 3 pumas oahers blancs, re nie
dA mater. nA meet ahve Sek ant
in SQ nso mrss ese ores | wae 5 59 SHO
Cea § rere erty Exe, te itt steer we 8 Q eno sin Sm ean
ca 7 some rac isnt a ee on ore 7 reveveatnae san of me pce san aoe or
com 8 secmduton eso rt eco aster PS Ry
cre 8 wn; sm conc a 8 A Netgear.
rnd A Bight. Candiuion vith the ov, yes. IEE EP A |
cmt Game cvs 1 terry ystere tov na ses coms ncon
nT A Smo, etme pest - conmnt ai [cv 12 tangs yo ladon = apn makmatne
TE hater a with the lice obltins of scram. [15 13 scars aa ssa stan bse
Carita tc cannot ke, for ramp, ex 18 roti su por mons }
[own marermeters whemsoet an seen ese nds ot hon 18 Ae Tere y
fen e186 things. oun 18 GIs ws ur, kf ack be het police. H
re AT Qu Wahi The dun os e deferse coun, Fuss AT reper. indudes wn interne wth ae sd wee whe wey
wien $0 Fut DOR. ety mia er aban cam Baie 0 aed nd Me IS
Soe 19 ret recat old Vey vein nse ase 98. ions tn gas, sag ors erm
Tain 20 wth te aw seg acs, wt bee2 A Xveterstnars comet
al A Them [REE —
CEEOL facie tow hen sone he aT alin 0 reno arcs spo
ppg 23 mace coe wot rr sing ne shy
wth Tasca. —s SEARO osm, Ao Ye a 14
wmaZ5 Gantt yn wre ts ovat 5 JH ——
SRIRE DZROSTION SOLITONS EsauRE QETDSON S3MONS
WE... OMNI WPS... ........ I
Ed En
EET ————— sr 4 SHON Cec tans
JRUNPI wn 2 agen, ws. yon yen tame om,
vn 3 rane re eset ne rt wes 3 chatty atom ae surors rr
war 4 A. sustthe tact of epessatetion sons? is & oman
we 8 re & HL SEATCLAL Fast 3 fot to
are § A aan marc gne. sur, arcane, rn 6 cmon, pence, de go sca wot i
war 7 evervon 1s snitedtoa defense. rs 7 ae |
Ene BA Aue DPT [rE i
sam 8 revit ery Sit Peles rent? er 9 rp —"—
«10 A Portions oft, yes. me 10 FR. SHERL: 11am ascrga questa !
I ran bps de, Fn
well A Ttkriowed motor bTdont (uw obfcacnsti. ken onl se i
ont din de ole fe Labial aemderticsn,
an18 A Wa tl ae Selma Pocambor 300, 000, rien 15 kes ete wae ng fo
[irae 16 8120 sn 3 the cave in shout uy 2008, was ums 16 WS, pve cons sa tae |
foc 17 about a sxcyeor period ot time, 3nd 1 remember Ta boen fcocx 17 i SCAROUA = tc acle ta alate i
{owns 18 to Florida x wouple of times on this case, once ia 2016 can 18. fui ou tt sire peer 0° wv dere. i
farm 13 amd think wmochr 3 enor te, Ai jen ts wi sw, ae atm
rer 20 remember, tous an on of those oe, eesdng he [en 2D ness i
eo 21 cepa re ih Got ow cor att evn soso: |
re 22 [re ——— [NC
JRE, Jomn TB corwdane vk the ov ene re
fen THR NTTIESS: Toe, Sade rams BB ale ara sop Ak re aon
fen2 cherub [Ep
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: on 2 on 240
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wri 3 sages, id tthe, to seve tocshed myn foie 3 ype.
wr 4 apse? Trae 4 Qu ard zo 0 ou saree wen re then —
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mi itosmtion in thos ins the police rape us. | wre 8 ances reno why uk isp 0.
oe TG one. anaes oo ve sknemlcasrat ne me TO mosses ts hae
Np — ice 8 aman tht 0 sce roar cm war ov
fine 3 ewes Pi bet Won: hcl izes 3 ee oer te pe 20, bs rds go peecty
cre AD coset ons anc et pera oats? ce 10. ethos ages, ont?
leant A ves, out not inthe sme sraperion ie 11 A ven. Tost was cone or vo examen, |
a2 GL yer vest sparen, Th - an ars 12 thot waz omg on. !
+m 8 spr fo cso, rele tore ac 18 Qu Ger. sous raw com he kee
fomn 10. nam aca ghen 1, pone sadeoncn tie nate [ons 1€ spec “cams cons
fen 18 psec sanmmer ee 15 A Tastuoe=
[rs 16 A somone ums basicaly a few tolstes i160. verre cormaseat
+2217 examples fom what could sc, faa T A Tht vs my concuson vhen review the. |
PS LE Sr r——————y ET i
mire 19 HAE BENS rape 35 im Sclala papas” frame Q. Okiy. So yo Incision i hat
inZ0 A cl gun the ackop St bio 18d — coon 2D Hered a IE to come
var Qe wpa Fone 24 oot cote
J fex:22 A. occember suthof 214, knowing wht we kau
we 28 MR. SCANDIA: Faken ae. THe winess k aot Prue now yes
EN SA war B QS yossseer vows ey wepcons
[TR —— 25 paron?
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Filing # 37201585 E-Filed 01/29/2016 03:47:44 PM
CASE NO: CACE 15000072
BRADLEY J. COWARDS and
Pluintifl Counterclaim Defendunts.
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DelendantiCounterclaim Pluintill
DEFENDAN /COUNTERCLAIM PLAINTIKE ALAN DERSHOWLIZ'S
The transcript of the deposition of non-party Virginia Ruberts Giullre (*Ruberis is
curently under seal as a result of the fanuary 12, 2016 Confidentiality Order in this. action.
Dershowitz secks larification that the Confidentialiry Order docs not prosiude him or his
cums] fram submitting the frascep of the depasitian & the Office of the Slate Allomey. the
Office of the United States Attomoy, and othe appropriate investipative awhorities salely foe
purposes of requesting hat those offices consider opening perjury investigations regarding
Roberts's testimony. To the extent that the Confidentiality Order precludes such disclosure,
Dershowitz requests thar the Court modify it to permit the requested disclosure in the public
interest,
Roberts has stored in an effidavic originally filed publicly in fedocal court in what the
paris hve refiared 1 as the CVRA Action that she sas present en Joffiey Fpslcin’s private
inland, Little SU fares Island, at the same time es former President Clinton, That atlidayit was
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stricken in relevant part from the record by the federul count, bul Roberts's counsel filed publicly
a pleading 10 this case contosting Defendants assertion thar her statoments. in the media
regiming mcling former President Clinton were untrue. A capy of the public affidavit filed in
the CYRA Action and the sxeerpted portion of the pleading filed in this action are attached
hereto as composite Exhibit 4.
Thecause fommer President Clinton did nal leave office wil Tunuary of 2001, tnd Rusberts
has reponly stated in publicly filed sffidavits that she “escaped” from Epstoin while in
Thailand in September of 2002, the allege mecing with farmer Fresident Clinton must have
taken place between January of 2001 and September of 2002. As explained tn the lector amachod
as Fechibit B, former FBI Thircetor Tauis Freeh made request pursuant to the Freedom of
Information Ace for documents from the Sceeet Service ropseding Scorer Service personnel
wmvelling with former Presidous Clinton to Epstcin’s private iskid and the Us Virgin Islands.
Thssed on the response by the federal goverment to his request, and His knowledge of he duties,
peotacals and operations of security provided to a formar President. Mr. Frech opines in the
atuched letter (hut the shsence nf such recor “sinmyly establishes that former President
Clinton wis not peesent on Litke St James Islaad during the period at issue™ IF Mr. Treehy's
opinion is correct, then Roberts's publicly filed affidavits in which she stated thar she mot
President Clintan on the isd during that period ure abyivusly false. Derhowits intends to
bang chis public information to the aration of the appropriate authorities.
Separate fram the public information, Dershewits alo helieves thu Riberts gave fuse
testimony at her deposition. The relevumt testimany. which Dembowiv intends w proside Lo the
appropriate authorities, is bog filed under seal sontemporancousiy with this motion. In an
abundance of caution, Density. amd his voumsel da not want to disclose (ix non-public
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information even to the responsible public uliiciabe wil u right and need w know without
olbvaicing confunation from this Court that doing so would not violars the Confidentiality Order
or aiemsalively relief from that Cemiidentislity Order.
Respeettly subined.
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THEREBY CERTIEY that a copy of the foregoing has been electeoaically filed through
the Clerk af Browsed Coun: hy using fhe Florida Courts eFiling Portal and thus serve hy
electronic mail: SX{Scanes law com. INCHES arc la com, scanslateamigs careylaw.com to:
Jack Scarola, Esq, Scarsy Denney Scarola Barnhart & Shipley, P.A., Counsel for Plaintiff, 2139
Puli Reach Takes Blvd, Wet Pals Teach, Toridu 33409; orijones diutah go to: Tors I.
Jones, Esq. Assistant Utah Attomey General, Counsel for Plaintdt Cassell, 160 East 300 South,
Sal Take City, Utah 84114; braciipuihiajustice. com Ls: Bradley T. Fulwands, By, Farmer, Taff
etal, 425 Noch Andecws Aven, Suite 2, It. Landendale, FL 22301: cassellpiaw utah. edu, ta:
Paul. Cassell. Esq... smocnloyiibsillp.com, sperkinsdibsflp,com, fleservog bsfllp com fo
Sigrid $. MeCuwley. Tisq.. Ties Schiller & Cloner, 1LP. 401 T. Ts Olus Blvd. Suite 1200, Fi.
Lauderdale, FL 33301. this 29° day of fanuacy, 2016.
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EXHIBIT A
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CASE NO. 08-80736-CIV-MARRA
JAKE. DOT #1 and JANE DOT. £2.
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Lo My name is EI | + born ies August, 1955
2 Lamcumeatly 31 yoars ald.
30 Tne up in Puli Roach, Tlorida, When | wane ltl, 1 lived annals und wired
1 be a vererinacian. But my lif wok a very different tea when adults began to be interested in
having sex with me.
4 Tnapproximately 1999, when | was 1 years old, | met Ghislaine Maxwell. She is
the dughter of Robert Mell, who bad been a wealthy publisher in Britain, Moxwell asked
Oat Tome with Yer ts JelTrey Tpstcin's mansion for the pupae. of leaching me Tow ty
perform “massages” and ( tain me professionally in that area. Soon after that | went to
Epuicin’s hum in Pal Resch on Fl Brillo Way,
5. Prom he fist time [was taken to Epsteio’s mansion that dag. his motivations and
actions were sexual, as were Maxwell's. My ficher was not allowed inside. 1 was brought up
same sain. There wis naked gay, Tpstein, on the table in the rons. Bpstein and Muswell
forced me into sexual activity swith Epstein. | sas 13 years old at the time. He seemed to be in
is Ah ar $f. Twas paid $200, Tyas driven home by ane nf Fpsicin's erployees,
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10. Epstein took me on a ferry boat an ong of the rips to New York City and thece he
Look the picture shove, Twas approximately 15 or 16 yous od at the tims,
1 Over the next few weeks, Jellrey Dpstein and Ghistaine Maxwell tained me to do
wht they wanted, including sexual activities aud the use of sexual toys. The teining was in
New York uml Flarida, at Fstcin’s mansions. 1 was: basically every day and was ike ging lo
school. 1 also had to have sex with Epstein many tims.
12 Ts ined Ko be “everything sn man mie me fis be TL wasn'L just sox
taining - they wanted me 16 De able 10 cater a all the needs of the nen they were ging t@ send
me to. ‘they said that che loved that 1 was very compliznt snd knew how fo keep my mouth
“hut
13. Epsicin and Maxwell also ld me that they wanted me 1 produce things for them
in addition to performing scx om the men, They 1ald ta me ns pry stlention ta the delails ubout
what he men wanted. 50 1 could report back ta then.
11. From very carly on 1 was fearful of Epstein. Epstein told me he was a billionaire,
Taal my mother that T was seirbing Gar this viel soy, anil she said “go, yo far away.” Fpwiein
had promised me a lot, and | knew if 1 et 1 would be in big trouble. 1 also knew that 1 was a
witness fo a lot of illegal amd very bud behavior by Fpsicin and his friends. 107 lefl Epstein. he
Kiev all Linds of pawertid people. 1le could hive had we hilled oc abducted, and {always haew
ho was capable of that if 1 did not obey him. He lot me know that he knew many people in high
luce, Speaking about himseli, he said “1 can gel way with things. | wins very scan,
pariculady sine | was a teenager
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15. T visited and traveled wilh Teifiey Fpstein fin 1999 though the summer of
2002, and during that time 1 staved vith huen. as his sex stave, at each of his houses really mors
Tike mmsian) in Tagations including New York City, New Verks the area of Sain Fe, New
Mexico: Palm Beach. Florida; an island in the U.S. Virgin lands: and Pacis, Ceance. [ had sex
wich him ofien in these places and also with the various people be demanded that | have sox
with, Fpstsin uid me for vmany of these weual encounters. Tn fact, my only purpase for
Epstein, Maxwell and their frends was to be used for sex
16. Ta illus my connection these places. T includ fur phisogaiphs taken uf
me in New Mexico (showa belaw). The Gist ane is a museunt in Santa Te, New Mexico. We
iad gone sightsceing for tho day. Epstein took this picture of me, 1 was spproximately 17 at the
ime, judging from the Tasks of iL AL the end of the bry we returned ta Ttein's Zor Ranch.
The second pictuce is me on one of Epstein’s horses on the ranch in New Mexico. fhe following.
two wre ram winterlime in New Mexico
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med ol that anyone spending ny. significa tine ut sme af Tpuein's residences soll have
clearly been aware of shat was pours or.
18, Fpuiein's code word for sexual encounicrs was that t wis 1 “assage”, AL times
the internction between Epstein and the girls would Sart in a massage oon sein. it was
alvays a sexual encounter wud never just a massage.
19. To wddition to consti finding widerige girls sutisfy thie personal desires,
Epstein and Maxwell also gor gurls for Epseeia’s friends and acquainances. Epstein specifically
Lal me that the reson Gar him doing Uris was so tha they sould “owe him, they saul “be in
his pocket” aad he would “have something on them.” 1 understood hin © ean that when
someone was in his pocksr, they owed him frvors. 1 also wndorstoed that Epstein thought he
cand get Tendency if he was ever cunght ding anything illegal, or more so hit he vould escape
woudl altogether.
0, Ghishaine Maxwell was heavily inva in the illegal sox. Tundentood her ta be
a very powertul person. She used Epstein’s money and he used her name and connections to
‘nin power and prestige.
20 One way ta describe Viaxwell's mole wane as the “madame.” She ase «
position of rust for all the ick, including me. $he got me trust her and Epstein. It warned out
tht Viswell ws ll shout sex all he lime, She hid sex with undernge girs virully every day
when | was arcund hee, and she was very farcelil
22 1 first had sexual aetivitios with hor when 1 was approximately 15 at the Palin
Dsch yansion. 1 hod ny sexsal nelivities with her over the vest several year, in Fpstein's
various residences plus other exotic locations. 1 had sox with Maxwell im the Vien Islands,
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New Mexico, New York, es swell an Fence sind ning other locations. T als observed Viswell
have sex with dozens of underage airls.
23, Maxwell took pictunes of mamy of the underage gir, These pions wore
sexually explicit. Maxwell kept the pictures on the computers in the various houses. She alse
made hard copics of these images and displayed cho in the various houses. Maxwell had lige
nnsunts of chill pomograply tht she pesonly made. Many times she nude me sleep will
otter gids, some of whom were very young. for purposes of taking sexual pictures
24, Hand law profser Alm Denhowitz wes around Fpsicin frequently,
Deeshawite vas 56 comfortable with the sex tha was poi on hat he would even come and chat
with Epstein whilk 1 was giving oral scx to Epstein.
251 hd send intercourse with Dershawity at least six nes. The fies tine wis
when | was about 16, carly on in my ssrvinude to Epstein, and it continued unt 1 was 19.
26, The first time we had sox look place in New Yark in Epstein’ home, TH was in
Epstein’s mam (not the massage room). 1 was, approximately 16 years uld al the time. 1 called
Dershowitz “Alan.” 1 knew he was a famous profossar,
27. The secon tine that Thad sex with Derduonwitz was at Tpssin’s house in Pale
Beash. During this encounter, Dershowitz instructed mew both poctorm oral sex and have
sexual interoourse,
3.1 alsa had sex with Dershowite at Cpstein’s Zor Ranch in New Mexico in the
massegc room off of the indoor pool area, which was still being pointed
20. We ulsa hid sex al Liddle Suint Times Ihind in the US. Viegin Wands. Twin
asked 10 give Dershowitz a massage on the beach. Dershowitz then asked mo to take him
semewhers mors private, where we proses W have intercourse,
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airplane. Another gurl was present on the plage with us.
Dershawile on television calling me a “liae.™ [le is Tying by denying that he had sex with me.
1hat man is the same man thar 1 hyd scx with at least six times.
3 Topstein mude me have sen with Prince Amlrew several times, Prince Andrew,
Maxwell. and | are shown in the photograph below. | had sex with hum three times, inchiding
one orgy. Thangw be wns 4 member of the Rritish Rayal Family, but T just salled him “any,
ho Kus |
33, One day when | was in London (specifically in a townhouse that is under
Maxwell's mame), T gol news from Muswell that T would be meeting a prince. Later thit day,
Epstein 10d me 1 was meeting a “major prince.” Epstein told me “w exceed” everything 1 had
been taught, He crphasized that whatever Prince Andrew wamied, Twas lo make sure he gol,
then went out of the hous and stayed our front in their car. It was just Epstein, Maxwell, and me
inside ulone wills Andy. Twas introduced ks the Prince, anil we kissed formally, cheek tw cheek.
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There was u Tot of egal discussion about Ardy and His ex-wife (“Fergie”). Then the discussion
twened to me. Maxwell said “guess how old she is” Prince Andrew gucssod 17.
35, Then we all went Inu Chino vessiuramt for dinner snd then ta Club Tran, +
Tones “membecs anly” night club in central Landan. Andy arranged for alcool 1 be provided
0 me at the club. Eventually we Left. § rods with Epstein and Maxwell back to the townhouse.
Othe wry thers, Ftv und Massel] informed nee thi the Prince wanted ts see “mane sf me”
hat night. Andy maveled tm a Separate car with his guacds.
36, Well amived bok at the sorte smd went upstairs. Fpsicin kak # pictur nf
me and Andy with my awn camera. The picture abe is that picture. which has been widely
circulated on the infomst, Andy has his Loft am around my waist and is swiling. Lhe picture was
developed an Murch 13. 2001, and wins taken sonmetine shanty bre Thnd it develped. Twas
17 years old at the time.
3% Twaned a pire with the prince bocause T wars kosping in cantael with my
family. 1 had 101d iy mom and ony grsadina dat 1 was meting Prince Andeew and that Pd ke
a pitare for thom, Thy told me fo “be careful.”
38. Aller the pictims, Fpsteirs and Miowell kissed we ud said b “lave fun” They
left Andy and me alone upscairs, We went to the bathroom and bedroom, which wer just steps
amy from wher the picture ws taken, We engaged in sexu activities there. Aflerwards,
Andy Teil quickly wih his secusity
39. Lchatod with Epstein about this he nest day. 1 fold hin, “it went great.” Epsicin
said sonnething Go the vifeet af, “Vou did well. The Prince had fun” 1 fell Tike T was being
aceded. It was horrible to have to recount all these events and have to tey to meet all these nosds
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and wants, T wld Fpstein shot Andy's sexual interests in fect. Tpulein thought i sus ery
funny. Epstein appeared to be collecting private information about Andy.
40. When T go buck from my rip, Fpwiein pid me: mare than he had paid me lo be
with anyone else approximately $15,000. That money was for what 1 had done and to keep ory
moh shut about "working with the Prince.
AL The second time 1 hud ses with Prince Andnw wa in Tpieii's Now York
mansion tn spring 2001. 1 was 17 at time. Epscein called me down to his office. When | got
there, Fpsicin was. there, alimg wilh Massel], Johann Sjoberg, and Andy. Twas very surprised
see im again. Epstein and Maxwell weee making lewd jokes abaut “Randy Andy”
42. Lhad che impression thy Andy had com there fo sce Epstein and to have scx me
swith, There was un ler appl purpose for Andy obi hore
43. 1 was tld fo 20 upstairs wih Andy and to go to the room I thought of as the
“dungeon” dhe massags room, but it is really sory looking). Thad sex with Andy thers, Twas
onl paid $300 from Epstein foe secviciog Andy that tin.
A. Lhe third time 1 bad sex with Andy was in an orgy on Epstein’s privare island in
Ue VIS. Virgin Tlands. 1 was around 18 ut the tive, Fpstein, Andy, approimstely eight oder
‘young girls. and | had sex together. The other girls all scemad and appeared to be under the age
af 18 and didn't really spesk English. Fpstein laughed abiut the fuel they couldn't really
communicate, saying that they are the “easiest” gies 10 get long with. My assumption sas that
Jean Luc Bruncl got the girls from Exster Europe (os he procured many young forcign girls for
Titeing. They were yourgg wad Cursipesn kioking snd sounding.
45. Afterwards we all had dinner by the cabanas. ‘The other irs were chating away
among themselves, and Fsisin and the Prince chattel together. T fell. disguied, smi sent
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quickly ts my ws cabana that night and sent 1 sleep. Prins Andrew must have flown sul
carly the nose moming, a5 | did nor sec hum shen 1 got up.
48. Thane sen Buckingham Palace's recent “emphalic™ denial that Prine Andrey
had sexual contact with me. That denial is (alse and hoetlul w me. | did have sexual contact
with him a5 1 have described here ~ under oath. Given what he knows and has scen, 1 was
hoping that he would sinply voluntarily ll the truth ahisut everything. The my atlomneys can
interview Prince Andrew under oach about the contacts and that he will tell the truth.
AT. Tales bod sexu imercourse with Tem Tuo Bromel amy times when Twas 16
tcght 19 years ald. 1e was another of Epstein’s powell Iriends who had many contacts with
‘young girls throughout the world. In fact. his only similarity with Epstein and the only ink fo
their Friendship append to be that Briel could get dover of undernge giels and fel Tpsicin's
(andl Maxwell's) strong appadite for sex with minors.
48, Bruel nm same kind af misdeling agency snd appeared 1 have an smmgnent
with the U.S, Government wheee he could get passports or other travel documents foe young
girls. He would thon bring these young girls fyirls ranging in sec from 13 0 21) to the United
Stites fore senual purposes smd Farm then out te Tis friends, including Tpsein.
49. Brunel would offer the gurls “modeling” jobs. A lot of the gicls came from pooe
caunirics or pow backgrounds, and he lund therm in with 1 promise of making gond money,
S01 had 10 have sex with Brunel at Litt SL James (orgies). Palm Beach. New York
City, New Mexico, Pacis, the south of Eramce, and Califomis. He did not care about
camsersation, just xe
SL Jefftey Epstemn has told me that be has skopt with over 1,000 of Brunel's aus. and
everyhing thal T have scan confirms his claim. Fpsicin, Brune, amd Maswoll loved orgie with
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Kids — that is, having sexi) interactions With ANY young leHagers Mt the sume Tis.
Sometimes: a5 any as ten underage irks would participate in a single orgy with them. I
porsonalty observed dozens of these avgics. The urges huppened on Kpasin's ishund ia the U.S.
Virgin Tslands. in Nex Mexico. Palm Beach, and many elher places. Most of the girls did not
speak Engi. Tt wos tng uaderscanding thas th gies had been persuaded to come by Brunel
offering them illegal dna or a career in modeling. Bruncl was onc of the main procures of
gis
52 In addon to Ghistame Maxwell, ENN. ot IRS = <iso
Savolved in the orgies. ALthis stuge, Tam fopofil that these ather wamen will come forward and
tell the truth about everything bocausc that will help preveut future similar abuse.
$3. Ihave seen sports suying or implying that Thad sex with former President Bill
Clinton on Little Saint James Toland. Farmer resident Bill Clinton was present on the Island al
a tue whea 1 teas also preseut un thi Island, hut | have over had scxval relafious with Clinton,
aoc dave T ever clined Lo have had sueh raladons, have Dever sees him bave sexual relations
with amyone
S41 now uadecsiand that Fpwicin roachsd a non-prosccution agresuent wilh the
fod goverment in 2007 and pled guilty to two sate crimes in June 2008. 1 now kuow that I
wis identified by the feral government as on of EpStcin's and is co-couspianor’s sexually
abused vietios, However. no ane takd me about thase eveats vari after they happened.
55. On September 3, 2008, the FBI sent a victim notification letter © me. This was
the first witon communication 1 had received frum the FRE. Ths letter is attached as Exhibit 1,
Ihe loter cescrinos an agreement in whith compensation would he made viethns of Fpstein's
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seal shuse. The letter ulsa said that the fodera] gavernment wis wing te “defer Galeral
peosseution.” No one had told me about deferring federal prosscution before this.
6. Tn 2011, twa FAT agents, alc we in Awaralia and then am bo mest me, They
met ne at the U.S, Consulate in Sidney. They seemed te be very professional and hard working
1 thonght fo myself, “Wow. these people will do the right thing against the bad guys and protect
57. Ihe agents were mainly focused on Epstein buc while thers | provided theon some
inflrmation saul shen wha sees invalad in illegal acts i well, Twas sr that a filse
Statement 1 these lav enforcement officers was a ceime and 1 wid the tlh giving them the
information that I could recall about the individuals they inquiscd abou,
$8. Topatein who tufiicked we for sevunl purpases to many ther powerful men,
including politicians and powerful busingss executives. Epstein requiced me to describe the
seal events that T hud with those men presumably <a thal he could potentially blackmil them,
aun stl) very Teall of these men today.
39. 1 will continue to cooperate fully in the investigation and prosceution of Epstein.
Maxell, or wry of hie Friends whs prticipates in the sexual abuse of nino, abo laps Oil
this informacion is ueared in a way that will keep me safe trom Epstein and others criminals
denlificd here sn as 10 encaunige mare victim of similar erimes in came fran, 1 these
rites are not prosecuted. despite my volunteering this infamation and cooperation. then it may
deter other similar vietins from coming forward,
60. Tis advil, The wid a focus on ho | was, tdfichesd For esl pura,
1 have not described al of th details of the sexual acdvitios Epstein foreet me to have. Also, |
have mal described all of the details af the ther events discs here. TF a judge was me in
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present my information fn more dete. incloding more specific descriptions of the seaval
activities with ihe men Epstzin sont me 9, could a 30.
61. Thue directed mp atormess, Bradley J. Rewards and Paul G. Caseal, to paso
an reasonable and legitimate mens to have criminal charges brought against thes: power!
peopl fi the crims they have committed aginst me and other srk. They are representing me
in this case pro boro.
2. Since [filed my motion in this case, my credibility has been attsoked. 1 an telling
he truth and will so et hese attacks prevent me foun exposing Ue nuh of how: Twas balicked
fo sex to many powertil peop. These powerful people seem ta think tha hy don’t have 10
ollow the same rules as everyone else. That is wens, 1 hope thal by coming foro, | can
help expose the proem af sex taffieking and prevent the same sort of shse and dogradstion
hat happend 10 me from happoniag fo othr rls.
G.I declare under persis of pajory that the foregoing is me ami correel
Executed this "day of onuazy, 2015
(Location of signutre eft undisclosed fo sovuty rasa)
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Filing # 33754151 E-Filed 10:27:2015 06:33:15 PM
IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE 17
CIVIL DIVISION
BRADLEY J. EDWARDS. and CASE RO, CACE 15000072
Pluintich,
Detendans
CONSOLIDATED REPLY IN SUPPORT OF NON-PARIY JANE DOE NO. 3° AND
BOTES, SCIITLLER & FLEXNER LLP's MOTIONS TO QUASIT OR FOR
Defendant served virtually identical subpocass on non-paity Giuftre, and hor counsel
Hoies, Schiller a Flexner LLP ("BSF Tn an eifir 10 conserve judicial resumes, the min-
parties ace subanitting & canslidated eply Isquesting that this Court quash the unreasonable and
oppressive subpoenas pursuant to Florida Rules of Civil Procedure 1.414s3(1 or alfcruatively.
sue protective unde sharply limiling the scupe of the ubusive subpoenas pursuant 10 Florida
Rules of Civil Procedure 1.280(c).
INTRODUCTION
Aftee publicly seating that his mai goal in secking discovery from Giutlie is to puc hee in
“jail, Dofendror sored this non-party with a subpocns containing twenty five (251
unrewsonuble urd appressive request. Tis without question that GiulTre was sexually abused ws
* June Dos No. i Visginie Robes Gio. and will bersioatio be refered 0.2 “Gite.
See Tabi | CNN terete, Ne Dey Janay , 2015, See Ti, Avsisfan Bekins Sys
(ABC). anuery 6, 2015. “My goal is fo bring charges agaiost the licat aud require her to speak in court,”
1
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Telley Tein. Defendant spends over five (5) pues discussing the federal ution and eleven
(11) of us subpoena Requests Jans Dos Subposna 1, 5, 6, 7,8, 9, 12, 13, 14, 22 and 24; BSK
Subpoena 3, 6,7, 8,9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 19 und 22) relate 10 the federal action or Jeffrey Fpstein.
Tor sxample, Request 24 socks “All documents concerning, relating or refoeeing to your
assertion that you met former President Bill Clinton. former Vics President Al Gore andor Mary.
Tiahetly “Tipper” Gore on Lille Sain June Tkand in the U.S. Virgin Tous.” Defendant
clsitns tht this discovery would go to the issu of whether or not Giuflie is felling the truth
shout Defendsint hut thal effort i fmpesichment is leary collateral at hest and fils 10 ures
the contal issuc in tis case. “That issuc is whether the Defendant had any basis to support us
medi ssl against tn avsyens claiming hal they Tubricaied and then publicly led false
charges of erieninal conduct on the part of the Defendant. [cs the Detendaar's credibility and
not the credibility of Giufire that is the focus of chis defamation action. Defendant sugges's that
Cull rust be a Tie because it would he uneurd uf for ane of Fpsteins young gir w have
met President Clinton. Quite the opposite is true. There are a aumber of accounts documenting
Clinton's regulur visits with Fpatein. For example, Chaunise Davies recently shoved pictures on
The Inside Edition progeam of hee travels with other yung women in the company of Bill
Clinton and Joffiey Epsicin on kpstein’s plane. See Exhibit 4, ‘Lobia Express’ Mussease
Reveats Lucid Details foo teres Fpuicin’s Privaic Plane For the Ruch. Inside Fition. April
27.2015. The Epstein light logs also demonstrate thar formar Presidear Bill Clinton maveled
with Teflrey Epstein ami ther young women. See Fxhibil £, The Canker, Tamuary 22, 201. All
of that information, wile 1 doubt interesting, ot irrelevant i the defamation ise before hic
Court exept to the extent it casts doube on the Defendant's own credibility,
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EXHIBIT B
Professor Alan Dershowsiy
Tlarsard Law Seoul
1575 Massscusets Aveave
Hauer Hall £1
Cambridgs, MA 02138
Hun. ous I. Frach
Mobile 2032138221
EE
Jamar 21.016
RE: FOIA Request
Dear Benfessor Dershorwiv:
As you know. on Ail , 2015, a ragquest was wade tn 122 United States Scercs Serviee under the “ederal
Irecdom of Fx ‘ormation Ast (101: $ U.S.C. See. 552. relstme w Use poriod 1101 0 1102. or any
sad all shill gs. vel econ, ierazies. sports aad ates ceconds for LSS persue] eavelig with
former President Hill Clinton 1c $. James Isaad and the US Virgin Islands” (Atachman: A).
The basis lf the above described FOIA eguest wos is clian by Viggiia Robt, fn wove popes filed ia
carly 2015 in Finrida federal cou, thet she aad former Presiden: Clinton were an | ls SL Jamas Island.
atthe same tin: during the 1010] fo 11:02 period.
Asset Garth in January 16, 201s liter fram: Kim Fx Campboll, United Saas Scerot sorvios Special
Agent Tn Cliege, Freed: of Tuforunation Act ad Deivacy Act OTe, the “USS ia conducted
reaanalle Seals for FespaIve eons. I EATS, om yiew of LISS main indiest, Cat Tere ars
no records pertaining 10 your reqest tha: ars reforenced in hese indices” (Atcha. Bi
1senctore snschide fram cis respons faa formar Peesiden Clint did 10 in fact fret 0, 20: as he
present on, Lit SA. Jams Island betwen Jansary 1, 2011 and lanumy 1. 202
Hasad upon my experisnes and knawledge of hs diries, protncol and epecatians af LISS Pravective
Details, the Special Agents accompany and escort former Provident Clinton 24 sours per day, and world
have cectsinly went with him to Lite St. Jauges Tseud cing “he period sé ive. Ibe Agents bd
accampaniad the Sarmor Presider. 0 hat Incation, hey wn id fi boca requized ta Take and file ic:
Jos, tral suschess ind rehied dosmentation oti bo Us visit.
The teal abwsnee of any such sosards and doeure sation, in wy npinion. szangly ssahlishes at farmer
Fredeal Clo was no: present on Lite SL. James Lund turiag the period at ssc.
Hest Rogarts.
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Lusis Freeh
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wr DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY
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“This is the final response to your Freedom of lnformation ActPrivicy Acts (FOTA/PA} rogue
originally received by the United States Scerct Service (USSS) an Apri) 16, 2015, for inlormation
pesteing fo amy wad sll kif ge rave] econ, finenries, eeports, and other seconds for USSS
personnel traveling with fonmer Predident Bill Clinton w Liltle SL. Janes Island and the L8 Virgin
Tohinds.
In sesponse to your quest, the USS as conducted reasonable scarch for responsive recs. Ti
appears, from a rovicw of USSS mai indices, thi thor are Toco pertains yea tequest
that ve referenced in these indices. Fnclowed a topy of sour ariginal request.
Allernatively: if you deen one decision an adverse cerarmization, you may oxercise yout sppesl
tights. Sond you wish to file an administrative appeal, you appeal should be mide in writing and
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Patti Beseript
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April 6, 2015
Delores Barber
‘Deputy Chief FOIA Officer, Director, Disclosure & FOIA, The Privacy Office.
Department of Homeland Security
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Building 410 - STOP-0655
245 Murray Drive, SW.
‘Washington, DC 20528-0655
FOIA REQUEST
Dear FOTA Officer:
Pursuant to the federal Freedom of Information Act, 5 U.S.C. § 552, 1 request access to
end capes of For the period 1/1/01 ta 1/1/03, any and all shift logs, travel records,
itineraries, reports, and other records for USSS personnel traveling with former President
‘Bill Clinton to Little St James [sland and the US Virgin Islands.
Lagree to pay reasonable duplication fees for the processing of this request.
If my request is denied im whole or part, { ask that you justify all deletions by reference to
specific exemptions of the act. Twill also expect you to release all scgregable portions of
otherwise exempt material. T, of course, reserve the right 10 appeal your decision 10
‘withhold any information of to deny a waiver of fees.
1 100k forward to your reply within 20 business days, as the smtute requires.
bis og for your assistance.
sho
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rap
Gordon Getty
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How Come This Book?
Afeve months ago, Robert Trivers was kind enough to send me his new book. the
title is “Wild Life", Perfect two ways. Bob is a world autborizy on weildlite, to wit
evolutionary biology. But his books and papers about that are already well knot.
THis mes one 5 about his awn wild life, with his ideas in the background.
Tye started my own hook tree for fur times over Une past tlecade. Bob's gal me
stacted gain, Try il. 10s Bob's real vuice. One of his papers, co-suthareed by Mey
Newlon(2). is houl deception and sell-teception. | never saw much of either in Bab,
I never saw a guy Jess anxious Lo impress, Fine if you knew his achievements, and
fine if you didn't, What he wanted to talk about was great new ideas by others. It
was (roun him that | fist heard about the Hamilton-Zuk pacasite theory, and Paul
Ewald's complementary one about parasites stabilizing population density of hosts.
Both are beautiful examples of the obvious-in-hindsight.
Trealized that my hook could take a cue from his. My avn lie hast heen wild. It
as heer intersting because ie genius of my father gave me interesting places Lo
he an things Lo do. Tcaull say spmething shout that,
But te book would be mostly boul my ides in economics, Bob's ideas are well
Known to anyone in bis field. Mine aten't. 'm ten years older than bob, without
‘much to show for it except in composition. (My last two operas have been getting
some traction, and ay SACDS get pretty good radio time:) a [I run my economic
ideas up the Flagpole, in my veal voice, and see if they prove deception or self-
deception ar something warth the time.
Declaring My Blases
Ta bi Tree marke. fan 1sould hove it even iT agreed with socialists at there is
something inherently iniquitous about it There are bad guys and conflicted matives
Forwanl By The Astaor 4/18/16 L
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in markets and government both, What love boul iL is the chance (o prove ides.
Tove Wall Street innovations such as swaps aud futares and ETFs and mortgage-
backed securities, even admitting their dangers, And who vould have thought that
the San Francisco Bay area, a stronghold of political cormectness at the voters’ boath,
would nonetheless innovate Siri and Alexa and driverless cars, in its free market
havens here and there, over the past ive years? Remind ine the last inovatian by a
cammitiee, Whi would have thaught we vould make the warli’s best car, the Tests,
In this labar stranghold? It takes guys who prefer the impossible. t takes guys like
my Father
Yes. al was J. Paul Gelly. I] declare a bias for him. His Fults were just what we
read they were. | Liked them fine. by times with hin, with an exception Jl note in.
Chapter 1, are some of my favorite memories. seem to be the opposite of pharaohs
who began their reigas by chiscling oft their father's names from the monaments
and substituting their own. That was something about a ticket to the afterfife. 1 put
ny Father's name on things | build. The aftertife will come as ft comes.
Since this baok is ahautrowth first, T should say has [fel about growth, Most
economists, which 'n anything bul, reat it 1s a goal. [love innovation, which bas
translated to growth, while worrying plenty about growth itself. What happens
when anyone can make a doomsday weapon on Lis desktop? Depressed people do
awity with themselves every day, Some might take the rest of tbe world wilh them it
they could. Armageddonist religions wouldn't be needed. Not even destructive
intentions need be, A doomsday weapon bought at the five and ten might go off by
accident.
Then why do | root for Innovation when Tin seared stlf about ts consequences?
Tecase allurmatives re scarier still, Qumans will innate anyhin, while Big
Brother or the religious authorilies aren't looking, and 1 don't like the prospects of
imation driven unilergrouml. Well have ta find same way ta face the risks anil
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‘manage (bem. This book doesn’t say how. (will open hil tan of worms, and others
100, and try to track some but not all to their destinations. Une look Jeads to another.
"his shots that I'm 110t an optimist in the sense of making rosy predictions. But |
seem to show that bias in evaluations, I'm two thirds Panglossian. (Ductor Pangloss
was the guy in Valtaire’s Candide who said that this Is the best ofall possibile
warlds.) side with the god ator in that | cannol imagine an improve ment lo his
world arta the haman cae. 1 sec the dangers and evils, such as Armageddonists, as
somehow part af the scheme. The winld would nak he letter it used no thrals
a challenges la solve, Ta solve therm is not 1b wish ther sway. The stories of
Aladdin's Jamp and Use monkey's piv el] us a each wish aller the Arstis to wad
the one before, | thick that's what Shaw was telliog us in Don Juan in Hell. Don Juan
and the others are free to go to heaven whenever they like, and occasionally do.
“they come back because they can't stand the boredom.
Where ind Fault, and differ veith Pangloss, Is a5 t the doctrines we are taught.
Whatever study, 1 seem ta ind a god measure of nonsense taught along with
wisdarn, This bank is about what {ind af both in econamivs, 4d a problem [ry to
salve, nol wish away, is he danger of sing sight of the poiols an which Panglass
wits right, My verse and music Ley (o remind us.
And I anit a bis for the surprises my tile promises. Love unending what we
had all assumed. Fund And all the more fun when | can show that famous economists
had already seen and said some of the same things | do when we read those
economists again. Surprise need not he true novelty. My free growth theory is really
John Stuart MUI, althaugh na ane seems ta have noticed the paragraph [ quote
from him. My next generation theory really belangs 1a my 17%-century rhymesake
Sir Willian Pely, who happens Lo be my nominee for greatest ecanamistof all lime.
Tos wit, T could also cred it 1 the period of production thearists John Rae, Nassau
Senior, William Stanley Jevons and Bugen var: Bavhm Bawerk. They need arly
have considered husnan and (0U capita) as explained by Petty wo centucies before.
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This reveals my bias for economic history. it seems dry as a bone until you find
something terrific like those insights. Jt happens that | bad written both theories,
and published one, decades before | found those great precedents. Should | have
heen chagrined? OF course not. Forgatten or unnoticed precedents are at least as
mach fun to paint oat as the surprises they shied ahead of me.
Twill also reveal a bias for cvnlutianary binlagy. Its main axiom, the biological
imperative, becomes paw af mine. The tea is that. behaiars are selected for
sucoesstul reprortuction. | will ry W show thal the classical schov] treated this is
wriomatic {rom Pelly through Smith, Malthus, Ricardo aad Mill Mallbus wis only
the most obvious case. (t Japsed from atteution when a brillixnt new insight called
‘marginalism preferred to do without explanations for tastes,
Above all comes my bias for the great thinkers in those fields. We saw thatas to Bob
“Trivers. Although | often cite them ta disagree with them, 1 sce all as glants from
whose shoulders lip in eying to climb. 1 don't kick sand an 97-pound weaklings.
Mill eas a merch who gives us all essons in attribution and generosity, particularly
10 schools be disputed, wi who nonetheless dido't mind being « minority of one in
his books or in parliament.
Petty was sometbiog beyond. Polymath, self-made tycoon, anatomist, music teacher,
father of national accounts, originator of present value theory and human capital
and next generation theory, and esteemed by both Adam Smith and Karl Marx for
other itmovations | don't mention. Such men are understond slasly and
incompletely.
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CHAPTER 1: RECOLLECTIONS
Inever finished a course in economics. | started one atthe University of San
Francisco sixty years ago, and dropped it when | couldn't see the foundations. But
the bug had bitten me. | kuiew that one day | would try ou my own.
always loved logic. My favorite philosaphers at USF were the pre-Soctatics who
Nked nothing better than ta confound common sense. A brilliantly vexing exaniple
wins Zens Une Fleatic and his argument that Achilles an never calch up Lo the
Tortoise; Achilles tut first reach the line where the Lriaise eas last, 1nd the
tortoise has since moved on. Logic cn play such tricks. But] sensed that economics
was the place to try its limits. Dropping the course didn't mean giving up, and logic
would be the key.
Neither did 1 take a course in business administration or investment, My major was
English literatare. As a grade schooler { had asked my father about this, Where and
what should 1 end up studying? He had read economics and petroleum geology at
Oxford, and | supposed he would advise samething like that for me. 1 gata surprise
Carvar-arivnted majors were line bul nal nevessary. 4 graunding in the liberal arts
could be as mich or sre. The trek ws learn his 1a learn, Thal sound right,
aol anyhow right for me. So I chose USF, 1 Lwenly-minute walk from bowae watil my
‘mother moved us Lo San Rafael, a hf hour drive cross the Golden Gate Bridge, and
followed my intuitions toward English lit and bistory and music and philosophy.
| graduated with a degree in English Jit in 1936. This was the time of skittish peace
between the Korean and Vietmam was, and the Reserve Forees Act meant 1 had ta
repart far six months active uty starting in the spring of 57. Meanwhile | worked
for ay father. | and my brother Paul, later Sir Paul, started at the hottam pumping
gas and changing ail at separate gas statians not Far from our home in San Rafael
Thal Tel Lime for a fexs weeks ata bulk plant (oil warehouse and tank farm) in San
Francisco, stil working at the bottom, before | reported. Baul had served in the
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Korean war, sui was now exempt | wis a shavetidl second liewenant, thanks 1o the
ROTC program at USF, in the quartermastec branch at Fort Lee, Virginia. My
eyesight was never good enough for the combat branches.
Jie, who was then president, had started in the quartermaster too. My military
career was 10t 50 glotious. Somehow [finished the six months at Fort Lee and seven
and half years of inactive duty following, abligating inc to one weekend per month
at military posts near home, withaut being Jromoted even to first licatenant. By
icy. 1 shauh have: buen pramited or usted Uo Ue ranks. later learn thal my
schaal chum Manel Teles, who worked at Fort Presidio in San Francisco, had
somehove fixed the record, Thank God for ald friends,
My weekends of saluting were postponed when aul and | went bick to work for my
father in 1958, My father then Lived in the Ritz Hotel in Paris. He liked ordinary two-
room suites. Ihe sitting room vas his office. His filing system weas steamer trunk.
ur job was to sit and listen as he met with executives or art people ot old friends.
He would usually take us along to lunch and dinner, and wangle us along when he
had bec invited out, lle was the warld’s most attentive Father whenever we were
with him, at least if focused elsewhere when we weren't
Paul went un tn earn refining ane marketing in Nay, aller those few weeks in Parks,
while 1 went to the oilfiekds ry futher had just found nd developed in Ue Neutral
Zone betyeen Saudi Arabi and Kul, Pil soon leswned ali, became general
‘manager within two years, and ac things well. | learned only a little Arabic, but also
became manager in 1959, and soon blundered my wity into wo weeks’ house arcest.
1 had got crossways with the local emir, Mohammed bin Nasr, not bad guy, about
perks and privileges he and his staft expected Getty Uil to pay for.
“The ease against me was rigged. One of aur junior staff drivers, a Kuwaiti { think,
had aceldentally rammed and damaged a pipeline. le had fle the cauntry to avold
ail Jul there were no fun, Tis supervisor, fim Kinnel, was waraed thal he (fim)
was accountable under Saudi law, and wuld be sent th fail Instead. fim caine to mre
realized whit was breveing. Laws are exible, anid im wind ave gal aff witha
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caution al most if weren't al odds wilh the governor, Iwas obviously next, But 1
was not about to gamble that the threat to Jim was a bluf. told him that if L were in
his shoes, | would go back to England. He did. That left me. But J was in my shoes.
he blunders had been mine, and 1 would face the music.
My two weeks of house arest went peacefully. The plain cement-block house had
been built for my father at our por camp of Mina Saud when he lived in the Neutral
Zane in 1953. The Fanir's identical house wasa few steps away. My father's favarite
maple sugar wars il] in Une ricige roan Une fiese Shakespeare plas 1 hadi’ Uread in
college, and read vr cured the vom plete pas and plays of John Keats.
The house arrest was probably is much dressing-down us | deserved. Pad, or
anyone else, would have handled the perks and privileges more adrotly. But our
host country, Saudi Arabia, may bave picked up on something too, Getsy Dil was not
one of the concession companies in the Middle East named in the baksheesh
{bribery} scandals that made the front pages over the few years remaining before.
most concessions were negotiated away and host countries ran things themselves.
Tack to wy father In Seotiand, where he was visiting his ald friends the Maxwells
near Termes, and then ta he Luo-raarm suite at the Riz in fondu atiout like the
ane in Paris. The drove the six hundred niles between, in 4 vintage Cadillas, taking
two dys and stopping 10 visit bistoric sites and museums. He needed no guidebook.
J satin on meetings ind events everywhere with him in London as in Paris, |
assumed that the Saudis had cleared the house arrest vith hit, and | would have
agreed as he did, He Loo was io different shoes. He was right. He had solved a rel
problem with minimum damage, Lesson learned, and no hard feelings either vay.
Itweas clcar to both of us that | ws not cut out to be a line officer, meaning one who
ums things from day to day. My mind goes off on tangents instead of tracking
arguinents in veal tine. Tt works far ne, hit not as an administrator. We decided ta
try nes comsullant.
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‘That began al my father's Spactin Aircral Company in Tulsa, Oklahoma, He hadn't
meant to buy it. He had bought control of Skelly il, centered in ‘Ilsa, and Spartan
turned out to be ane of its holdings. Then came Pearl Harbor. by father was 48
‘years old, and had been a yachtsman. He took a navigation course at USC along with
Kids half his age, led the class, and volunteered for sea duty. 11s ald friend James
Farrestal, Secretary of the Navy, steered him ta Spartan instead. Spartan cold make
training planes and could Lean pilots. My Father acceptent. Ne paid himselCa salary af
onc dollar a year.
Te had decisions Lo make when MacArthur aii Matzushila signe the peace irealy.
The training planes were nol meant lo leave he ground, Spartan lacked the
capacity Lo make the real thing up lo competition. The demand for trining planes
pretty much ended sith the war. My father could sell out or find another use. He
decided to make house trailers. It worked. | had lived in a Spartan trailer in the
Neutral Zone, like the vest of the senior stafh, when | stayed at our Wala oil field
Father than the house at Mina Saud. We and the market had liked therm ine.
lierschel Shelton had been one of my father’s vight-hand men during the conversion
to trailers. 1 sald that the place to lank far hin was never in his office. You would
fim him in averally under a Lrailer an the Factory Noor, with a welding iran or
riveting gun. The liked Lo be able 1 do any job his workers did. Tow else woul be
Know if they were doing il right?
J stayed in my father's house at Spartan, as at Mina Saud. Jt stood at the opposite end.
of the runway from he offices and trailer plant. | drove another seasoned Cadillac
that my father had left in case he came back. Max Baltour, who ran Spartan, called it
a clunker. (t clunked me around the countryside on weekends, or to Jamil's
restourant or Cap Balfour's house for ditmer, or downtown to the movies or
symphany ar opera house. Cap (Captain) Balfour had Flow in Warld War 1, and
showed crippled hands from when his plane caught fire. Tle was cranky, urbane ani
razar-sharp. Tis problem ws Lat Spartan wouldnt seen to come oul in Ue hla.
Me worshipped oy father, and figured he had Jet him dawn. Oc seems to have:
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brought bis moods with him aller work, which my (ather generally didn't, Thal cost
hen bis sunny young wife. { somehow got a pass. | could understand him, and | was
my father's son.
My advice in the end was that my father should sell. Meaowwbile [ was taling an
interest in economics again. Busmess was about rate of return. Spartans was
negative. What was the benchmark? 1 did a fttie study.
Tis easy a sec that return Lends to even aut fram anc eampany or industry to the
nl. Wee piu investment into high-return prospects, and unintentionally drive that
high return down Wward the nor by expanding te capital denominator. | dida’t
Know thal Robert Turgol had wrillen be sume in 1766, Bul what struck me veas (he
smipression that return, net of inflation, seemed to revert to a norm over tite, Why
were interest rates, averaged over business cycles, about the same then as in
Daote’s time or Julius Ceasar’s? Why should buna srpatience be steady norm?
That puzzle nagged te for about a quarter century until | found the answer.
Another decade or to would pass before | leamed that Sie William Petty had found
tin the seventeenth century.
Towent hime in 1967 ta study harmony and counterpaint at the San Francisca
Conservatory of Music. Thad found time fa compuse a few things al the Hause al
Mina Saud with piano | had bought in Kuwait. They included 0 a cappella
fumaccompanied) choral selling of Tennyson's “All Along (he Valley”, and sometling
to which I Jater fit Emily Dickenson's poem “Beauty Crowds Me” in my song cycle
“Ihe White Election”, The composer Chirles Haubiel published "All Along the Valley”
in his Composers’ ress in Los Angeles in 1959. The one change be suggested, an
mexpected D Hat major resolution, is the best touch in the piece. | had noticed
capies in music shops in Tulsa. $a it seemed about time to develop that interest too,
and the canservatory hack home seemed the logical place
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Istudied there from (al 1961 through spring 1962. was probably the ouly
composition student already published. My teacher in both the fall and spring
classes was Sol [oseph. He vas a legend there. Most of what he taught confirmed my
instincts. Maybe five percent was old rules | didn't think much of, and five percent
good ideas that hadn't occurred to me. All was useful anyhow as a guide to what
Jeading atharities have thoughtand taught. That was the pont We were to accept
what we liked, and any hives Jean the lingo.
Those Liv causes covered traditions of the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries.
Most campasers in the 1960s, ami probably same or most af my classmates though.
af that as a stepping stone loward study of the serialism and other alonalism ben in
vogue. I skipped those cliesses. 1 realized tliat was a nineleenth-century composer
at heart, Nov the veorld seems to have spun back to where | was all along, For most
composers now, atonalism is oni of the colors on our palettes. Even | use some, So
did Hach. We reach for that color when we want to express disorientation or angst.
found cauld get mare said Most of the tine sith major-minor scales
Five short piano pieces | wrote then were published hy Befwin Mills in 1964. As my
father's son, you ight imagine that 1 was asked to pay the casts. Nope. Neither had |
acd onl ta Composers’ Press. Vanity press exists, bul that was nal the business
model of thase two firms. {gol standan royalties from sales, nol amaunting lo much,
aol they gol the rest.
Six published pieces by age 31 would not have impressed Mozart or Schubert, By
Jesser standards. iL was pretty good stat, There ire distinguished composers who
have never found a publisher. Tomorrow the world! | would write operas and
symphonies! What happened instead was sixteen years of writer's block, or eighteen
since finishing the pices in 1962. | suppose | was trying to say “Shazam!” and tam
nto something [ wasn't. The ice would brea in 1960, when | realized that Billy
Tatsan aul have to din But that gets me ahead of my stary.
Tiarried Ann fn 1964, making ita banner year an that count even are than the
publication, anil went bck ta virk far my Father. Tht Wok us to New Yuck in 1965.
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Tidewater Oil Company, which would merge into 1s parent Gey Oil Compiny & fev
vears later, had red iok problems in its Eastern Division. My job was to see why.
Eastern Division was ran by “Jim” Jiminez, an upbeat guy | liked. I don't think he
100k the red-inks probloms home with him as Cap Balfour had. He reported to my
halk-hrother Gerge at corporate headguarters in os Angeles, and Gearge reported
10 my father in Londan, Gearge had varned is ob as president by outstanding
earmance ab even level wn he way ug, which is mre than you coll say far me
nthe Neutral Zone. But Genre was tauchy. 1c had a chi on his shoulder. 1 think
my Father liked ta rite him, and he sometimes fell unappreciated. You have bo shrug
that off, George was doing fine. The problem in Taster Division was nol in hin, and
iLwas nol in Jim Jiminez. Then what?
Ilooked at the baoks. The red ink had notbing to do with management, Eastern
Division did refining and marketing, Its new refinery iu Delaware had been
aptimized to process heavy Wala crude ofl, which then was overa dollar cheaper
Derbarre an the marke: than the lighter and casfer-ta-refine crude we produced in
Texas and the Central Rasin. Tidowatess Western Division refincry al Martinez, by
canteast, Had all the cheap oil iL awed in our wn San foun field, The Martine:
refinery seas old, and more: expensive W operate. Mut the net advantage still went to
Western Division hy aout a dollar per barrel. Mes mvhile gasoline sald for about a
dvllar less per barrel, although only (wo or thee cents less per gallon, in the
reflivery-Joaded east than in Californis.
‘Management can't do much about itaport quotas and market conditions. | reported
to my athe that Easter Division was at least as veell run as Wester Division,
where the ink was black thanks to cheaper crude and pricier gasoline.
“hen could ve cut costs oF baost reccipts in other ways? 1 proposed that we close
our ald and inefficient Boston [Harbor terminal, where harges unloaded gasoline into
our tank farms ta be trucked to statians, and supply Boston from our nev terminal
al Pravidunes two hours’ drive away. 17 hal worked, other distribution
cansalidations seemed possible. Cater propased much the same thing for our
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operations in apan, where be neve terminal it Kawasald could theoretically obyiste
the older and clumsier one in Tokyo Harbor. | realized that plant-closing might be
unthinkable in Japan, but thought that something good might come of the idea.
Sometime alittle later came my lawsuit agains: my father. It isu’t my happiest
memory. There had been a stock dividend years betore, sehen 1 was still in school.
We had treated ita certain way on the hooks. | read the law os saying it should have
heen treated another wag. The law was probably on my side, and common sense on
my father’s. Jute Peery wisely found a way bo make common sere win in the end
Meanhill Thad accuser my father of nothing worse Gian aversight, My visits lo
Sulton Place, now with Ann aod the boys, went (he same as before, The Ls uit
seldom came up and was discussed in easy terms when it did. { suggested lo him, for
example, that he might want to settle with my stepmother Teddy in case there could
be claims by the estate of my late half-brother Timmy. He did. Somehow we got
through the lawsuit without had blood. One would not have guessed so much was at
stake. The stock dividend had been a huge one. What | leamed from my Father, then
most af all, was perspective. Ve: belleved in an even keel. Zena the Stale, nat the
Fleatic, would have el his mated,
The lvssuit lasted fram 1966 thraugh 1971. Tn hindsight, thank gosh hu wan. 110
a, lax consequences wauld have heen ugly all around. Again Thad learned a lesson,
worl gain there were no hed feelings either way,
J continued to do consulting jobs for him throughout the lawsuit and atter. J charged
expenses, bul no fee. And [ didn’t pad expenses. I) had, you can believe he would
have seen it. [stayed in a single room in the best hotels, ate three squares a day, and
paid for anything else myself. | was trying to make the point that | didn’t srant to be
paid. Neither had my father at Spartan during the war. The idea was for me to be of
use. Lua paid like everyanc else sshen working Foray father full-time, but never
on consulting jobs.
Those: naw cane ance ar twee a year, and lasted fora week ar tan cach. Campasing
ws tll on ie back hurner | was keen on physics, exonamics, hunan origins ami
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cy planning. [ becune clear thal al but the ind needed beter math skills than |
had. So 1 bought the Barnes and Noble textbook on College Mathematics, got through
tina week of bard work, and then began on the fobnson and Kiokemeister textbook
on colculus along with Halliday and Resnick on physics. Together they took me
nearly 2 year. At the end, | was allowed to Sit in on the Freshman physics finals at Cal
Berkeley, where the same bo Lexthanks were taught.
Ttweas the finals for physics majors, and meant ta be tough. Cal took physics
seriausly. Not overy Treshman was destined Lo yo farther, Some shoul be steered
Towarils eoginsering, which pays better anyhow. There were 10 questinns. Three
hours were allowed, Bach of us bad a calculator and nothing else. Nol even a table of
integeals. My God. | had to remerber thems or rederive them, There are some thal
had taken even Newton and Leibnitz months to solve. | don't rementber any of the
questions. There were 200 to 300 kids in the rooin. Maybe 20 or 30 orientals, about
three women, no blacks. Not one finished cary. And some Hgute to be Nobelists by
nove. Were palling about Cal. [ had answered seven questions when the three haus
wire up. Was that goal enough? 1 gata call Tn a fis days. passed, and heat the
class averapy.
My ald friundd Matt Kelly warner me about this Lima: hat George sas in raul, Matt
Til knowin George's new wife fackie, aunl hal heen invited ta dinner tere. Matt's
smpression was of oul-of-contral mood changes. He said thal George al one point
had drawn bi aside, shown a pistol and warned him about paving too much
anention to Jackie. The next mivute they were back at the table in jolly spitiss.
Jearned later what was wrong, George thought he had a weight problem, although 1
never noriced one. Doctrs prescribed amphetamines in those days to conarol
appetite. They revved him up and wade it hard to slecp at night. So the same doctors
reseaibed barbiLurates alight la set him Lo steep. ppers and downers are:
dangerous enough. Add a drink ar two and you've got trouble.
Of caus] shall have Lold my father. Bul Tdin'L want ta be the ane. liked lo
Nous my brathers. Many must have seen the symplams Mats sas. Let them break
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oe news, But the others must have felt as 1 did, We waited (oo Jong, [gol « phone
callin 1973. George had died at Mount Sinai Hospital, There was an empty bottle of
sleeping pills.
My father's death came in 1976. Ann and | had got word it was coming a few weeks
before. We were there. $0 was Norris Bramblett, an accountant who had worked for
my father since | was in schaol. My father trusted him. So dic 1. He had only a fourth
grade education, but a PI's worth of character and sense. My father, Zeno the Stole
when things gal ugh, cracked jokes Uy Uhe end. Karris alone could unicrstand Tim
ry then. [le Lranslated patiently. My father was giving me one mars lesson. (le
Tapsed into 4 coma. Aun and were called dow from our bedroom when he died.
that left me and Lansing Hays co-trustees of the trust controlling bis companies,
Lansing ran the law firm that bandied nearly all my father's business and litle ise.
It was a big job. Lansing was smart, abrasive, and dead bones. He didn't mind
hurting people's feelings. 1 was not immune. It didn't matter. It wouldn't have
‘mattered to my father. What mattered was that Lansing know what trast meant, and
tthe Trust frst. That's what | cared shout.
Lansing was alraily on the Getty Ol bears. | was invited Lo Join Wa. We met faur
fines # year, mast uflen in Los Angeles. Taruld Rers, an ofl engineer fiom Colarado,
hal become CEO (chief execulive officer) and chairman aller George died. Sid
Petersen, an accountant, was COU (chief operating officer). Harold was warmer
and more approachable personality. That's what you'd expect in an oilfield guy. Sid
was reserved wad analylical. That's wha you might expect from in accountant,
although Norris Bramblett it anything but the stereotype. Harold and $id were both
clearly well chosen. Neither then nor later did | doubt that Getty was run at least as
well as its big oil rivals.
The hoard tan were tap people. But trouble: was brewing. The rust, meaning
Namsing and 1, iss nerd about 43% uf the shaves. The Gelly Museurn, also chaired hy
Marold, awed anther 11%. Boards and managers profer scattered ownership, so
thal they ean operate mar freely. Second-best wauld be concentration in dacill
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hands app to follow the board's guidance, Bu my father had made it lear 10
Lansing and me that we were to trust our judgment. We should be ready “to vote the
‘management in and out.” Since stockholders elect boards and boards hire managers,
that meant to vote the board in and out.
No wander they wore conceraed. Lansing and [ were bath boat-rocicers. Wouldn't it
he safer iF there were a eorporate co-ustee? These are usually satety-minded hanks,
and many hanks did business with Get Oil
Concerns rose when Lansing died in 1972. That Jefl me as the sole Lruste, [was Jess
abstreperous thi Lansing bul also less prediclable, Hostile Lkeovers were
common then, where bids are made directly Lo shareholders rather Un clesed
through the board. Getty was rich it ofl reserves per dollar of share price, It could be
a target. Board members tend to feel that they know stockholders’ interests best,
and that the angels are on the side of “friendly” or board-approved takeovers it any
atall. Stockholders don't necessarily teel that way.
“Temperatures rase when [ pushed serious study of the possibility of taking Getty
Irivate. The idea was t gIVe up oUF EOIPOate SEAMERUTE 10 escape the corporate
dbl tax. Managernent and its investment banker, Galina n Sachs, advised against.
Troe think they were right, although my idea hard gor precedents. 1 pressed an,
unwisely, by eying lo convince (he Museu lo buck me, They hid eller sense.
Twas time 1o heal the breach. Marty Lipton of Wachtell Lipton, a lop mergers and
acquisitions law firm, represented be Museum. He proposed i moratorium (the
“tripartite agreement”) where the ust, Museum and company would hold the
status quo for one year. Harold Berg had retired as chairman of Getty Oil, and $id
was now chairman and CEQ. His COO was Bob Miller, a keen petroleum engince.
Harold Berg still chaired the Museum, although Harold Williams was its CEO and
main volee. We all signed. But Getty O1f had its Tngers crossed. & few days later, the
campuny petitioned Une court ta appninl a ca-Lruslie. 1 propised Bank of America.
Tol A's chairman, Chauncey Medberry, sat on the Getty Ol hoard. Paul and George's
daughters Joined the plaints.
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‘The Museum was more outraged tin [wias, Marty fell tht he hed been used He
and Harold Williams, a business-savvy guy who had chaired the SEC under Jimmy
Carter, realized that if | could be hogtied, the Museum with its 11% was the next
domino.
his was in November of 1983. Within a fow weeks, the Museum and | signed a
“consent of shareholders” taking over the company. The required public disclosure
ofthis, on top af the tripartite agreement and co-trustee lawsuit before, was blood in
the wale
Pennzoil unched a hostile takeover bid in December, My concern was tal the
trust should not be locked in a minorily position. | mel with Pennzoil in New York,
We resolved that to my satisfaction. The Getty Oil board met, also in New York, on
January fourth, The mood was not sunny, Harold Stuart, one ot the brightest and
finest board members, assumed that | had invited the Pennzoil bid. Chauacey
Medberey thought | should be sued. But Sid aud the board acted responsibly overall,
We countered with a higher price, Pennzoil accepted, and we went home thinking
we had a deal
Texan offered a higher bid twir days later. Was Getty Oil alrwaly hound Lt Pennzoil?
Tus Tawwyers and mie sai it wasn wolil Ue foal agreement was signed. Cad my
doubls. Bul liked Texaco's offer better, ind my duly vas clei, The Trustand
Museum would be paid cash for their shires, rather than locked in. | had insisted on
Jangusge in the Pennzoil agreement that bound me only as “consistent with my
fiduciary duty.” My duty, in the light of legal advice, was (0 accept Texaco's offer.
did, and voted the same way as a member of Getty's and the Museuny's board. Those
were fiduciary duties too.
Pennzoil sued Texaco, and eventually son punitive damages of some eleven billion
dnlars. The: Muscum and Trust had cashed out, We were not parties, The Pennzoil
anil Teseen flgs bath spokes swell of me, Bul thers was stl Lhe lavessil seeking «
carparate ca-trustec. That would hae been very dangerous before the sale ta
Texan cashed us aul. A corporate vo-rustee might well have assented bn “carparat
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defenses” blocking a sie and effectively locking (he trust i « minority position, Bul
now that danger was over. the remaining plaintiffs were my three nieces and Paul.
couldn't blame then. How could a corporate co-trustee burt?
But [was still worried. | now wanted to split up the trust into four separate ones tor
my family, Paul’, George's, and my other half-brother Ronnie's. Corporate co-
trustees tend to prefer the safety of acting only as required, and anyhow might nat
he keen ta vote themselves out of a job.
Were Paul and my nieces man al me? Telieve iL Lavisuils get thal way. Lawyers nn
both sides say pasty things, That lasted because splitting Ure Trust (wok line, The
math was easy, bul Une Jegal precedents were vague. My lawyer, Mose Lusky,
thought swe needed new California Jaw. Ulaintiffs counsel didn't think so. | was
accused of stalling. Someone had the bright idea to approach Willy Brown as
Speaker of the Senate, The Law Mose wanted had already worked in other states,
and Willy liked it. He pushed it through. Problem solved. The Trust was split nto
four in 1988, and an unhappy chapter ended. My nieces and | are as elose as ever. So
were Baul and [until his death in 2002.
My interests by the time uf the split wer campasing, verse, economics, human
arigins and evolutionary biology. Campasing was going preity well, My writer's
block hid melted away in Ube sunmer of 1980. Ann and ] and the boys were in Paris
then, We wandered into Smill’s English language bookstore. | bought the Thomas
Jobuson variorum of Emily Dickenson's 1800-odd poets, "Variorum' means
including Emily's own variations shen she mailed the sume poem to different
people, or put a copy in the chest at the foot of her bed.
I ead them all over the next twa days. Emily had been ane of my favorites at USE,
She died in 1886. She had published only eleven pocns. Squahbles among the heirs
delayed publication af abiout half the vest until Jahnsan published then fn 1953,
hese years aller | geartuatid. Many alewady published ad been Bosdlerizd® a fil
canventianal rhyme and geanimar. Johnson gave us the real McCay from her
manuseripls. All was new 1o me.
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Is no pin io our hotel room in Paris, but sel a few of the poems in my head to
write down later. biore followed. Une of her poems [ didn't set begins “Mine by the
sight of the white election...” Election meant choice. Her white smock hangs today by
her bed in Amberst where she was born and died. White is the color of weddings
and burials. [lor choice, | think, was a death marriage to the reverend Charles
Wadsworth of the Arch Street Church fn Philadelphia. le was happily married. She
me hin bul thee tes is her fe. 1 would Ll her story in 31 of her poems, an:
nto different settings, in my cycle “The White Flectian.”
Twas completed in 1981, and broadest on National Public Radin wo years later. 1
seems 0 have male a goud impression. Skva Rostropovich bad kind words, and
invited me Lo write something for cello and orchestra sat he could schedule on bis
upcoming tour in Russia. Placido Domingo invited me to write a song for him.
Renata Scotto wanted me to choose five or 50 of the White Election songs that she
could include in her concerts. All were big appartunitics. Somehaw none happened.
Other stuff was coming out the pipeline.
“That included my opera “Blump Jack“ Here 1 would tell the rise and fall of Falstattin
Shakespeare's [lenry the Fourth and Filth, This was risiccr. Now the
accompaniment would he archestis, nat piano, and | na background in
archestration. Composing and orchestrating are not the same, Composing is like
wriling x play, and occhestralion is ike casting the play. There are composers thal
don't orchestrate, and orchestrators who don't compose. Most of us do both. |
always did my own orchestration because no one else would know what | wanted. {
gradually learned from my mistakes. Now | can probably hold my own in
orchestration, although many do that better.
Plump Jack was completed scene by scene aver same twenty years. | sould think it
was finished, and then decide ft wasnt My nest two operas, cach running about an
Tor, would he composed much faster. 1 sot “Dsher Hause” mg cardier libretto
Basie oy Paes stary in abasic wewks in 2008 and 2009. “The Canturville Ghost’,
on Wilde's short stary, oak me: abut tse weeks each, with twa moths between,
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for Libre o, composition and orchestration. The last two operas have been
premiered at major opera houses. Usher House ran again at San Francisco Upera.
Upcoming performance of the “scare pair®, meaning Usher and Cantervilie as a
double bill, have been announced in other cities. Plump fack is still waiting its turn.
My interest in buman origins led me to the Lealcey Foundation. | had read about
Louis cake in the papers, and had met him a tew times in as Angeles and San
Francisco. Brilliant, courtly, ree. fle lot you know shat was rong. became a
fellow in 1973, a trustee the next year and chairman the nest.
Clark Howell, who taught anthropology al Berkeley, chaived our science committee,
His co-chidr wis Dave Humburg, « Stanford psychology professor who specialized in
reat ape studies or primatology. Most leading scientists in either field were
‘members or regular advisors. They recommended grants, and we trustees funded
them. We took a venture capital role, usually making geaats of a few thousand
dollars to promising new prospects rather than bigger amounts to steady-state
Projects already proved. Those proved ones included Jane Goodall's chimp studies at
Ganibe ov Richard f.cakey's digs at ake Turkana. National Geographic, or the
Wenner Gren ar Warld Wildlife or National Science Faundations tended ta fund the
Enon winners, We're a lot bigger nove. [am pie of the few living links Lo those
geval people and lines, We've evolved wilh (he science, Bul we stick lo Ue veolure
capital role.
hat always left time to organize lectures and symposia. A few of us including Kancy
Pelosi. long before she tried politics, put together an all-star two-dley symposium al
the Palace of Fine Arts in the San Francisco Marina district in 1973, Tickets sold out,
and hundreds watched on screens set up in the lobby. [ulian Huxley Togeeted, but
sent his good wishes on tape. The octogenarian Raymond bart recounted his
discavery af austroiapitiicets ofvfcanus at Taung cave near Johannesburg in 1924.
Tavis T.eakey had died the year before, hut his equally legeniary widaw Mary
updateal us an the digs al Oliluai. Dick Uy filled us in an the geolgy ere. Jane
Gada gave the news fram Gombe. Dave Hamburg reparted on the new
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chimpauzer compound nes the linear reaction al Stunford. Clark Howell briefed us
on his veork at Torralba and Ambrona in Spain, where our ancestors half our size
had hunted elephants twice the size of modern ones. (Elephants go back at least as
fan as mammoths and mastodons.) Desmond Clark covered African arehacology in
general and his discoveries at Kalamho Falls in particular. Sherry Washburn showed
the way in which aur DNA Is 98% the sane as a chimps. All were my clase friends.
Ttwas at a sympasium in 1974, in Washington 1 believe, that {first heard and net Ir
DeVore. lis Lalk was on evolutionary bialogy ani Tamils rule. Bath were new 1a
me. Tew eas 3 cham pin speaker. Students packed his anthropalogy dases al
Harvard, He became a Leakey stahwarl snl a particularly close friend,
1liked bis topic. Genes code for traits, and traits more adaptive to niche pressures
ave likelier to carry the genes that encode them into the next genecation. the
likeliness is fitness", A beauty of this is that you can predict traits from the
environment {niche}, and the environment from traits. That promised the kind of
logical challenge that | loved.
Survival of the Fittest was NOT Hews to vs. What was news was that bright scientists
iki: Irv weer specializing in thal lagic, and making testable predictions for creatures
generally, humans inured, cather tan sticking the groups they studied most.
Thal meant people | could talk to.
Hamilton's rule was pu up as the prime example, Tt starts from the principle that
the end gine in biology is investment in (be ext generation. Hamillon bad
reasoned in 1965 that genes coding for most efficient investment in closest kin, who
were likeliest to cary copies of those genes, ought to leave most copies in the next
generation. We would invest in them when consanguinity was greater than
castybenctit ratio measured fn ites given up and Himes gamed at the other end
Tiida’ Tike this. Something was missing, The Jgic was seductive. But Achilles does
overtake the tortalse. Traits compete, like those racers, for niche space. The winner
5 the fittest at meeting needs of the niche. Hamilton's rule seemed to leave that out
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1 got Darwinism bickwaird, Darwin's ide wis lia Une best-adipted leave most
progeny, not that leaving most progeny or other close kin somehow bootstraps itself
into adaptiveness.
The math of Hamilton's rule didn't work either. In diploids like us, where each
parent caries two sets of chromosomes, closest relatedness without inbreeding is
#. "That meant that fitness would have ta double or more with cach generation. The
reason is that fitness not expected to be transmitted ta successors wauld be a
contradiction in terms. FL canna be lransmilled (invested) al less tan a 2:1
efficiency raliv (benefit cist atio], Uren iL imust be expected ta double ar mars with
each reinvestment, Bul aardvacks and falfish aren't 1024 Limes Otter than heir
ancestors of Len generations ago. They aren't even a smidgen filter, by any measure
of fituess known to me, unless the population has grown, Fopulation growth in
nature usually fluctuates around zero.
But bis rule was right in important veays, Nepotism is cotmon in nature. The Trust
passed my tather's wealth to divect descendants. Most wills do, or tavor nephews
and nicces as a secondary choice. Chimp mothers maneuver to push their offspring
up the social ladder. Warker ants and bees, wha don't breed, push the chances of
thir yaunger hallsisters. Damian's rule was clearly 2 goat rule af thumb, uve
thwugh the uath neetied ting, Why should it usually work? | couldn't know then
thal Hamillon bimsell would find Une biggest missing piece of the puzcle in 1982.
Economics was always somewhere on my screen. Jt was the biggest challenge
because {had to reinvent it from scratch, | bad dropped the course al USE because |
couldn't find the foundations. But vee don't build a foundation without knowing
what we want to top. | bad to reinvent everything at once. Docs that mean thought
Iwas hest qualified for such a task? No. Plenty of people are etter at logic than [ am.
Rather [ seemed to bie the anly volunteer.
Tixplicit ecanamic axioms are sin as a nineteenth century thing, There are implicit
ones toa degree. Macracconomics Is sald t rest an microeconomics, and
micricanonics on the logit of supply and demand. Gand se far. Tut UTel the need
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ofa logical context for ose, Too darned much was being Laken for granted, What
do wwe really want (rom economics? As we gradually tigure that out, we can figure
outthe most etticient vocabulary for description and prediction. That's was what
Neswtan did. ] didn't lice the lazy assumption that those problems had already been
solved
Neston lucked out in that old words like mass, force and energy vould masty do if
he gave them exact definitions within their usual ranges of mcanings. Brand new
terms would have made Uugher: riding, and his Principia Mathematica was tough
envugh in 1687. Thad the sane Tuck in Ure en. But lida’ knas tat until Thad
callected lextbooks and economic dictionaries, along wilh mast books on economic
history [could find. and meanwhile worked oul whit | thought the right vocabulary
ought to be, We pretty well have to solve every section of the jigsaw puzzle at the
same time, ['m ty father's sou, by the way, and balked at the three-figares prices of
some of those texthooks, even though | might forlc up as much tora battle of wine.
My icicas on growth theory and capital theory (explaining rates of interest and
return) will get plenty of coverage later. It happens | have also taken a lifclang
Snterest fn hanks and mane theary. This bask isi't about that direetly. At hanks
anil money are part of Ue story of grossth and interest, and anyhow are warth
allention in themselves.
Money his been defined elegantly in Lerms of whit we want (rou iL, We wan «
‘measure of value aud a medium of exchange. The qualities to give those things are
“moneyness”, Money should be “Lransportable”, for one, in tit we don't really want
10 lug bags of wampuu around. t should be stable in value, 50 that we cau contract
over the future with least uncertaioty. Jt should have the same value in different
Places as well as at ditferent times, to minimize the nuisance of conversion. There
should he enough oF it that shortage doesn't drive us to the clumsiness of barter. Jt
should In: “divisible into ting units, as hundred-dollar Wills inta Lens and ones and
pwnnies, for exact payment with nothing wed back. 1 should be fungible in that one
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unit, say dollar, is worth exactly (be same as nother. Most essential of all, money
should be something actually and reliably valued.
What meets all these criteria? Gold has been a contender since ancient times. But
how reliable is its value? Spain and Portugal stockpiled gold and silver from the neve
world for two centurics, and bought nothing but inflation for their trouble. Gold is
good tor filling teeth, and for displaying status so long as itis rare. Then what is
hetter?
Tawar niliant andl dangeraus adventurers, the Scalsiman John Lav and the Irishman
Richard Cantillon, proposed Lun. France in 1720 biad rio new sworkl mines, aol
needed money. It bad plenty of lund in Mississippi. Liv and Cantillon pul wo aud
two together. | thiok they sincerely believed their advice to The Duke Orleans, the
regent after the death of Louis XIV, that Jand could be the most reliable basis of
value then known, More than that, { think they were probably right, But it wasu't
reliable enough. Early fuvestors in paper rights to the land had made a mint as
others crowded in. Market euphoria led to more paper rights than underlying value.
You've heard that one heave. Law and Cantillon saw the crash coming, It would be
called the "Mississippi bubble. Cantillan sald aut just in time. Lav preferred to face
the music, as would in the Neutral Zame a quarter millennium later. Land wasn'L
thw answer,
Jet ll Law and Cantillon good guys like be emir, Both seem Lo biave committed
‘murder for money, Law Jong before and Cautillon Jong after, in scandals in London
having nothing (o do with te bubble, Bul they bad good days. Cantillon's book,
which { kuove only from descriptions by economic historians, seems to be a
‘masterpiece of the obvious-in-hindsight. Law went down vith the ship, like a
mensch, and seems to have kept the trust and friendship of many backers he had
bankrupted. | mention the phusses of these twa Ten ta remind us that the truth fs
seldom black and white, ani to mitigate: he folly of the French in trusting them.
Money taday, in the United States and elsewhere, Is nat backed by any cammodity. ft
is “government fal maney” baked by Lhe Lixing power of government. That may be
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the best solution tried so far, The value behind the axing power is the Lota capital
of the nation, meaning human as well as physical capital. And the dollar has proved
pretty stable since Paul Volker's tough reforms in the early 1980s. That means that
government fiat moncy in this county is working about as well as anything we have
Known.
But there are problems. Government taols for stabilizing government Hat money,
which has no value in itself, are limited ta control of its supply. The toals are
monetary and financial policy. Monetary policy is mostly “open market operations”
where gavernment sells bonds Lb soak up excess money, and buys em hack again
10 put money back in the system, You can also raise br lower Centra Bank interest
rales Lo get the same effects, Fiscal policy trims money supply by rising lisses and
cutting government expense, and pumps mouey back into peoples hands by
lowering taxes and raising government expeuse. Monetary policy is the tool of
choice because it hos acted must faster. But either policy, or any mis, is a tightrope.
walk. Too much maney courts inflation by mativating people to spend rathes than
save. Toa little courts recession hy motivating the apposite. That's why
mAcrOscwIDIIics is sai a rest on micraronins. Ark we wise fa push our luck on
that tightrape farever?
Another prablem is thal our curcent maney syste may depend fou much on banks,
Banks buy and sell hack the government hoods, lor example, «nd crete be money
they Jend by writing it into the borrowers checking account and booking the
promissory note as value received in retucn. The problem is that banks ave failure-
prone. [mean plain commercial banks which do nothing but accept deposits and
make loans, not the still more dangeraus commercial investment hyhrids sshich
osc and fell aker vepeal of the Glass-Steagle Act
“The dager is leverage. Depositors must be attracted at some cost, say checking
services. Morrawers must be attracted ata rate covering those costs ta give prolitin
the fist place. Ther equity investars must be alla ed af an vuity ale, generally
higher because equity imposes risk. These rates and tosts are market givens Father
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than whl the bank decides, Then how can profit from lending rates, watered down
by costs of attracting depositors, translate into higher equity rates?
Easily, but dangerously. That's where the leverage comes in. Ifthe amount borrowed
is much larger than the amouat invested as equity, absolute profit from borrowing
might be large compared to the amaunt invested. it hens lay only one egg per dag,
but] awn three hens, then {can eat three eggs a day.
More maney lent out, eampared ta equity invested. presuppinses more deposits to
Jeni The leverage nesded, or feposits equity vatia in te bank's case, works out by
equal Ue marked euily return for investments of equal risk, divided by the market
borcowing rte for loans of such term and risk, nel of expense percent including
costs of attracting depositors. This has tended to pencil out at about ten to one,
Fits in general are considered risky when leverage (debt/equity in that case)
reaches one to one, Four to six is more typical. Not ten to one, Banks invest in loans,
which ate safer. But not ton times safe. Fow people today would risk their money in
hank deposits without federal deposit insurance. Yiy awn reading of history finds
that depasit-and-lend banks have failed systemically, ar needed baflouts, about once:
er generation since they were innovated in Marco Polo's tine. They filer hese
Bowers default in high wins, and lefaults are nragnifiee Len fol in effects vn
stockhoklers’ investment, We rebuilt them, and the enfold leverage, because we
blamed tbe high winds ritber than the rickety structure, The Practical Pig koew
better.
It began occurring to me in the mid 905 that tutual funds might replace bank
deposits, and deal with the tightrope problem too. Too much money burus holes in
Pockets today because money carns nothing while we hold it. Mutual funds pay
veturms, and are owmed for their own sake. IF their shares were somehow money.
Jeople woul feel no finpatience to spend It and na supply would be tao much. |
graiually figured oul how the abvious prablams in fungibility and divisibility and
other maneyness qualities could be addressed.
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Mobelist Franco Modigliani Lieard of this, and invited me 1 MIT for a presentation.
He talked like Gepetto in Disney's “Pinocchio”. There were a fev other top brains,
including Ruddiger Doobusch and2julio Rotemburg, in the small classeoom where |
spoke. Sometimes Modigliani interrupted. “Getty, you don'ta consider this.” "You
forgeta that” | guess | thought 1 wasn't doing so well
My tall: ended. and he and | ysere standing by a window. To lighten the mood, 1 said
something about the Red Sax. (le said “Getty, getta papers on banka reforin every
week. ¥aurs isa the fest”
Milton Friedman, aovther nobelist, had 1 diffecent take, We bid given talks ala Calo
Foundation symposium in San Francisco, He buted my ide. No great surprise, He
had written that money ought to earn nothing so that we wouldn't own too tuck.
Any arcempt to back money with anything be told me, would meet Job: Law's fate
in the Mississippi bubble, The backing commodity would become inflated aod then
crash. So Nobelists can disagree.
My version of the same idea today loaks iest to ETE {exchange traded funds),
which are more quid and moneg-Hie than mutual fonds. FTF are usually index
funds, which replicats index holdings with no active management ani sa charge
very small expense ratios. But mutual funds might becume money toa. My iiles, decd
apposite from Friedman's, is that both money supply and money yield should be
held us igh as possible.
What would happen to hanks? jor angst, but not much damage. They would
devolve into their separate deposit and lending specialties, with separate
stockholders and only incidental interaction. Deposits would be invested in EUFs or
‘mutual funds. Federal deposit insurance would wither away as unneeded, There are
0 TunS on TE, Lending hanks would have to raise lands to lend from investors
expectinga return,
Tsthere.a downside? There bs certainly a visk of one. The devil we don't know is
what would happen to lending rates and what the consequences might he. That had
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been one of Modigliani’s points in his interruptions. Federal deposit insurance
subsidizes cheap money and keeps lending rates Jow. Most tradition associates easy
‘money vith growth and prosperity. Higher interest rates are associated with
restraint in investment and consumption both, Modighani was right to worry.
My guess is that the bank reform and money retorm | propose yrould drive
borrowing casts up, horrowing volume down, and equity investment up to hil the
gap. Carparations would issue new stock to retire corporate debt. Newlyweds
wad rent, mal buy, Until thei incomes vere high enaugh bring other aptivns
Modigliani was also worried that monetary policy woukl become impossible. It
would is we know i, | have argued elsewhere that fiscid policy cu be made lo work
aswell and as fast. And | will argue for an unusual and more direct form of monetaty
policy. But no one knows.
These concerns are reasous to go slow | think that the reforms [ describe are
developing now, with no input from me, and will continue if they succeed
Depasitars will he attracted aveay From banks to [£11 accounts of equal liquidity and
full return, Federal depasit surance will not be atvantage enough ta hold them
Tanks will get the: message and join the parade by spinning off their loan
departments and investing depasits in BTBs. 17 Maligliani's valid conterns haven't
found good answers, the parade will stop until they do. I could backtrack tv (ke
starting point, The reforms believe in ought (6 work, but can be scrubbed without
much mess if they don't.
Jam not their only advocate. Others argue for splitting up commercial banks more
or less as | would. Meanwhile many people maintain liquidity in EVV or mutual
funds rather than banks. There may be some originality in putting the two reforms
together,
This prersanal accmnt can end with more thoughts hou my father. My stepmother
Teddy's tovehing hoak about their inarriage. auta couple of years aga, tls the truth,
the whole truth and nothing hut the Truth. That what she does. He seems not to have
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been the easiest guy (0 be married lo, He pinched pennies, went on trips while she
held up the home frou, came home late. My mother had about the same story, But |
saw different sides of him at different times and places.
Twice | saw bim cry, Once we were listening to a Caruso record. He might well have
heard Caruso, although | don't recall that he said 50. He vould already have been 26
when Caruso last sang at the Mez. One ofthe twa hooks he wrote hy himself shows
Wien as an apera buff sehen on bis awn in Gennany in the 1930s. le wrote what
operas hie hal hard, wha sang, ani wha he liked. My mther said the same. Once
they arrived late at a performance of La Boheme somewhere on the Riviera, could
fi a program, liked Lhe tenor, decided Lo help him, and learned thal they bad failed
10 recognize Beniamino Gigi.
‘the otber time veas abous bis and Teddy's son Timmy. Timey's brain tumor was
inoperable and growing. He was 13. The doctors had told them to prepare tor the
worst, We wece in London, he papers said something about young toughs called
“Teddy boys. My father started crying. Timmy wouldn't make it, and the Teddy boys
would.
Tene Jost san mysell. Vou thank the graces far what's left Lo do. Whats Jol bn
dw includes campasing, verse and econvmics. The first has panned out okay. A fair
bil of the verse wis sel in Ue music. AUleast Ural makes iL read sod beard, Aside
from the kind words of Modiglians and x few others, Lcan'Usay as much for my
economics. So here goes again.
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CHAPTER 2: EAST FORWARD
1 dropped the course on economics because { couldn't see the foundations. Not that
they should be clear from the start. That isn't how the mind works, We see, do and
amderstand in that order. The pyramids Tose four thousand years before people like
Galileo and Newton found the laws that made them possible. Practice comes first,
and selence last. Science Is ahstractian from the particular t the general ts fesver
rules predicting more putcomes more exactly, The pyramid builders kinew miles fr
this kind af stare and that kind of aod or rape. Newton gave rules for mass and
fre, Those are nol articular things ike stink anil wand and rope. They are
quits ofall things. Their rulis ace wugher Wo gel aur minds around, bul predict
everywhere once we lo.
What book or course should offer from the start, even betore the foundations, is an
inkling that it should be worth inishing. We have to sense that we're on to
something. The price of getting there will be the nuisance of abstraction from things
10 qualities, and we necd t see a reasan ta pay it. 1 didn't in the course on
economics. ows it's my urn. Pliny a Gast farsward through (ree growth Ueary and
my ther arguments Lo give an idea where we're headwl snd why it matiers, The
foundations and then be slower tour will follow.
Free Growth
What call (ree growl heory will probably coun as the chiel surprise, a least lo
non-economists, because the argument and the supporting evidence call for a major
reversal in tax policy of this and other nations. But itis not original. John Stuart Mul
wrote the same idea in his Principles of Political Economy in 1648. | will quote what
he sald in my Chapter 4. Although Principles became a leading texthook for decades,
the paragraph 1 quote seems ta have been overlooked. Reanmic Wistarians
including Joseph Schumpeter dessribe Him as a champion of growth thigh bell-
tightening, The paragraph | will quote makes the opposite lear. We now hive
means 1a prove his ir. Twill shaw haw: Wo Lest it and will shaw Lest resulls in
charts and Lables Uaking up about 20% of this book. They imply that tix Jaws
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eacouraging investment over consumption 4nd plowback over dividends.
particularly in the Last half century, have Jed to dangerous overinvestment in the
private sector. The empty eyesores and bulldozer bills of 2008 are symptoms of pro-
investment policies founded in many countries ater World War I. They did no
harm when the world needed rebuilding anyhow. But | suggest that autput grawth
slowed because of them, not despite them, after 1970 or sa. 1 will argue that optimal
investment al the national scale, strange as lLsaunds, is depreciation plowlack and
nothing mare. Mill showed how that could be true. The sane geowth will arrive, say
ani Land he hers and Lables, sith ta consumption sacrificed. Mare:
consumption al na cost L growth ailds up Lb more output, Output nosed dawn
since 1970 or so becuse we squelched consumption lo no purpose.
hat means oly private sector overinvestment, prompted by unwise tax motives,
and only at the collective seale. Government follows ditferent motives, and has
somehow followed them to an apposite problen in this country. Gur infrastructure
Tusts and crumbles. It seems that our gand friends in the Tea Party think that roads
anil britges undercut market freedom.
Growth is interesting, even withou! these opposite distortions, because bistory is
interesting, Growth is our history. is not the history of other creatures, who repeal
norms from generation to generation once evolved. That's why the math of
Hamilton's rule doest’t work, And we care sboul it because there are ecnotional and
moral and belly issues attached. | gave an idea of its dangers in the foreword. The
past has proved suvivable, The future has tot. Then what about ts cost? Docs
faster growth need consumption restraint at the stan? Is ta reward for sacrifice?
“That's what Mill tried ta answer n 1845.
Te started with Une idea tial pulp, meaning creativn of capital, must mean growth
af capital (“investment”) plus consumption, will call this the Y=11€ for Y=C11}
exquatian frum Lhe stands d nolatinn econmists use. 1 will argue that it is ve with
two adjustments. Investment must include investment in buon capital, and
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consumption must exclude any schooling or nurture alceady counted in thal
investment. (Schooling counts as consumption.) Mill would have understood the
human capital concept, defined by Sir William Petty nearly two centuries before, but
economists only recently have began to sake it seriously. Mill's meaning of the
Y= C+ 1 equation, and the one accepted everywhere in macroeconomics even today,
Jeaves out the grassth in huinan capital and includes all consumption.
That equation, which [wll Ly to prave carrect If we make the twa adjustments,
shows that less consumption brings fester growth ilautput halis still But athing
in the eauation says 1 will. Tsiays that less consumption means either more growth
or less ouipul. [doesn say which. Joho Maynard Keynes, probably the most
famous and influential economist of he 20 century, put this fact of math a special
way in his General Theory of 1936. In his aualysis, saving through less consumption
is cither invested or not. Since output is consumption plus investment, saving
minvested is so much less utput. 1 like to pat the same idea with a range of degrees.
All saving is invested. as 1 usc the sword, hut finds different returns, Saving under the
malls is invest ment at era eturn, and drops putpul just as Keynes said.
Tovestimenl at the current average relurn keeps output unchanged That's what
Keynes meant. Bub investment at lower returns lowers output, and conversely.
Keynes’ version sees intended saving (consumption restraint} as either invested or
not, and sees it as translated dollar for dollar into actual capical growth if itis, Mine
allows way degree of capital growth below or above the actual cost of investment in
consumption given up.
“This is a Surprising concept, either in Keynes’ version or mine, because it seers to.
fight personal experience. Until the next ralse or Joh change ar layoff, aur incomes
soem ta be known quantities. INwe skip desert, and watch TV instead of galng ta the
movies, we ar pul mor in the bank. AL lwast aur incomes will not drap because we
sived those costs, But itis different for all of us collectively, When Whe whole nation
saves ani either does not invest wr invests less prouctively, output drops. Keynes’
analysis says (be same, but leaves vul the “less productively”,
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My reading of the Mill parageaph says that if we plowed back ouly depreciation
investment, without invading consumption for more, we would stil grow it that
investment paid oft in higher returns than the current norm. Then capital would
grow faster without making consumption grow slower. The gain in output, even
though we had invested only enaugh ta make up for depreciation while keeping
carsumption the same, vauld have bien split in some far capital growth and
some for mare consumptinn. And Mill gave the reason for the gain in autput, The
driver was “whatever increases Une productive poser of Tah. Ue was king
about better ides, We would mike returns higher if we could mike capital more
productive al the same cosl.
This possibility troubled Nobelist Robert Solow, who came reluctantly to a
conclusion most of the way toward Mill's a century later. He felt that growth should
not be a gratuitous deus ex machin arriving at its own whit. How cauld Mother
Nature say "Shazam” and turn less int mare whenever new frcas come along?
Didi the capital chicken have ta graw before the mulpul gg? Didn't ve have bo
tighten Dells 1 invest in nes plant applying those new ideas? Bul the wwidwnce
seemed 10 say that the rise in ouput came firsl. Rise in capital followed. Thrill
seemed 10 play little role. Tests by others have tended to find the sume (hing since.
My own tests, using new data from national accounts and my own ew testing
method shows in my charts and Lables, reduces he role of thrifl Lo zero. How could
thatbe?
How could better kinds of capital arvive without costing more, at least at the start,
than the kinds we already knew? My best guess is that the cost of innovation in
failure rates and learning curves is the cost of being human, that. vie pay it abit the
sme every day, and hat growth happens when the warlh of innovation praves
more than the cost, J can because swe are human, The cost of being human means
the cast nT adapting. fLis how we cape. We Lurned in our Tangs and fur in exchange
for the savvy Lo make tovls wad fire and clothing do beter. Other creatures wlapl
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100, but we became the specialists. Adplation grades into innovation whenever it
somehow becomes a norm. That too happens with other creatures, but not as often
or as lastingly. Their new norms almost always revert to the old ones, Oe
innovations collect and accrue. That's why growth is our history.
1s costs are allure: rates and learning curves. Mang fonavations are blind alleys, and
most athers inked shakedown rns. Rub were stuck with rose ss Ui cast ol heing
Iman And were stuck with them whether the result right nw 5 growth or not.
They were our cist of survival during aur millian years as bom erectus, when the
archeological record shasws litle averall change in the stone tous we mate, Growth
aol lusting innovation picked up marginally wih the emergence of Ancestral Eve
and bigger brains about 200,000 years ago, and began accelerating about 50.000
years ago. Growth happened because the more or less constant cost of adaptation.
and innovation became less than the payoft. New ideas tinally tound traction at no
added cost. Mill's idea was that more payalt in growth need not presuppose mare
saerifee.
Does tat mean that all wy nee fo growth is ew ideas and the courage ta Lust
them? Well, no, We sill have ta plow back depreciation as the cost of holding even.
We need practical savvy and patience loo. Somelimes great new leas must wail for
an opening, That may be why our bigger brains showed lide effect ou the Kinds of
100ls we made unti) about S0,000 years ago. And | will argue thal innovations need
Jaws and customs that welcome them, Otherwise they will make a few bucks for the
Jocal warlord rather than yeealth for the originator and the world, But what they
don't need, say Mill and J and the data, is tighter belts.
Adam Smith, In his Wealth of Nations published in 1776, propose growth by belt
tightening. Mast Lradition hs agreed, with Une proviso that nw ins must ome.
first Solow raised doubls about Use role of consumption restraiot, but stopped short
oF lenying a need far iL Mill acknawledged bath ways to grow. My charts and Lables
will confirm that only (he kind UL troubled Solow bas actully happened, in every
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country and period tested. | call free growin. My own free growth theory
acknowledges groveth by consumption restraint, which I call thrift, only as a
‘mathematical possibility which doesn't seem to happen. So my idea, taking account
of data Mill did't have, is different from his. | MUSE be careful Rot to put my ideas in
his mouth. When | say “Mill's idea, From now on, | will mean some of hoth.
Na ore had Ue tata Lo grove him right until national aceaunts began reporting
market-valued capital in 1990 or so, and reconstructing it for a fw decades before.
What they ad ear wars Une hiok measures af capital thal we: see in balance
sheets. They don't reveal enough. Baok measures assuone depreciation norms.
Gulcomes converge Lo norms over Lime, bul meanwhile might be anything, National
accounts follow a form of this book or depreciation accounting, They now report
‘market-valued capital too, but till prefer book methods to calculate investment |
and output ¥ in the ¥ = C + [ equation. That doesn't work well. id you know that
national accounts in lreance, Germany, U.K. and the United States al) reparted
Dositive net investment in the crash years 1929, 1930, 1937 and 20062 Net
investment, muaning nel af vepreciation, is infeed bn show growth in capital value,
Do you think values really went up in Use cash years? And national accounts can
be just is wrong in the opposile direction. In the boom year 1933, when stock
mackels were up 42%, 67%, 96% and 46% in those four counteies, Germany nd US,
reported net investment (capital groveeb] as negative while France and UK,
reported it up less than hall « percent, All this shows in my chiuts and tables,
Reports of net investment in national accounts tend to prove radically wrong it
years of unexpected upturn or downturn because they dons get the news of wars or
national disasters or discoveries or business cycles until new assets are hought or
new products sold. Purchases and sales are normally the pay input into the hooks.
Average time between ariginal purchase and realization in sales Is the "holding
period” or “urnover period” of capital. Far all physical capital together, it runs
several years. Accounts in those stump years were reporting the god news of boom
years sharlly before, including the bans if 1933 as well a 1933 preceding the
sump year 1937, Accounts in Ube boom year 1933 were finally gelling the news of
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the crash. {Yes, some of the strongest booun years in history came during the world
depression.)
his is 10% to question the need for national accounts. We could not manage without
them. But the genius of accountancy is in its reporting of cash How items.
Depreciation, even its sophisticated farm used in national accounts, i a makeshift
agproximation better than nathing, 1 argue that itis obsaletert by aur access fo
market-valued capital appearing in the last few decades.
Mill's cgumment was that capital growth might be explained by produttivily gain as
wells by theifl in deferred consumption, The way o lest between then at vill
describe takes mesurements of market-valued capital, its year-to-year change in
these, and consumption atthe same time. | call it the simultaneous rates method. In
any year and country where consumption restraint explains growth, although the
data show none, isc in growth rate would equal current drop in consumption rate:
{consumption /capital) while rate of return {output/capital) holds unchanged. When
rucductivily gain is the explanatian, as the data confirm sa far, iL is cansumptian
rate hat holds the same while growth vate and return vise epually, That's what {
test, Dit in chet and Lables for hose four nations from 1870 through 2010, and
from Australia, Canada, aly and [apn from 1970 through 2010, show that faster
capital growth colucides with higher consumption rates in the same year as often as
nol Less consumplion his simply meant less outpul will 0 growth to show for iL.
Thats the sense in which growth is free,
“hese countries and periods are not chemy-picked to support Mill's dea. They are
all 1 have found. My source for natinal accounts including market valued capital
was the viehsite of Thanias Piketty and Gable) Zucman adjusting thelr data ta
nifarm acenminting standards and measuring em in 2010 surrency units. Lalo
cullects recent and pit research by other economists modeling what national
accounts again including aceunts of market-valued capital, wild have shown in
years before they were founded io 1930 or so. Simon Kuznets, for example, who
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founded the national sccouals in the 1920s and reorganized hem dong Keynesian
lines when the General Theory veas published, reconstructed them back to 1870 for
the US. economy. Piketty and Zucman incorporate this research and others. They
have acted as editors only. As a layman, 1 would hardly be qualified to find and
interpret original sources. Even most ccanomists might lack that specialty. | simply
trust Picketty and Zeman. They will have compounded misrcatings and editors’
Wis in those: sources hy achfing their awn, and 1 will have ade mine. They and I
have plenty. Rating is bias hy definition. But we can't do without It We manage as
best we: an.
To mike sure, [so est Mill's ied on stock marked dala from the same nalions and
periods. Here my source was the Glabal financial Data website marketed by
Bloomberg. Market cap corresponds to capital, dividend yield to consumption and
total return to output. Charts and tables show free growth as essentially all of
growth in stock markets too.
Nave ry a first look at the charts and tables. The loli pop-shaped Greek letter @
{phi is something [ call the [ree growth index. [reads Lin years when grow(l is
explained as Mill described, 0 in years when belt-tghtening was the explanation,
and something iv: between when theve was both. The free growth index will be
explained in chapters 4 and 5. The charts can be messy, and the data jumps around.
“there are spikes, both up and down, which tend to disappear in the charts which
screen aut small absolute values of the denominatar (capital acceleration). But the
fro roveth index clearly jumps around 1, nad zero, both befinre ar alter the
screening IL is as often above 1 as bela, Thal means that growth is as likely to
coincide with belt-lovsening as bell-lightening, My ree website
Frestirowth&0therSurprises.org shows how everything was calculated.
Economists will not be as surprised as they might bave been a century ago. Growth
theory since Solow's revolutionary papers in 1936 and 1957 has marginalized
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capital accumulation or brill, and his seen most growth i the national scale as
“exogenous” or unexplained by whatever we suppose that we give up in exchange.
This book takes the next step in the same dicection. The role of thritt is zero. It is
politicians, not economists, who will be Rumemoxed. The double tox and the tax
reference for capital gains ave examples of policies favoring investment aver
cansunption to benefit growth, The record shows no such benefit in any country
ever. Pram all evident si far, free growth they is free grinwth Fact.
A New Way to Measure
What this hook ries to add is no only the next step in Solow's direction, by
simultaneous rales method offers a new means of testing. Twentieth century growth
theory, led first by Keynes’ colleague Sir [toy Harrod and then by Solow, has tried to
gauge the effectiveness of consumption vestraiot by a different method from Mill's
and mine. It has looked for effects on later output rather than on current capital
growth | coll it the lagged Haws methad. Why the lag? Because itoutput is grovith of
wealth (capital) plus consumption, a shift froin the third ta the second cannot
change outgut al the same: time. Rather output should Tene afl a lag of a fev
years for the capital thal produces it W accumulate, Capital investment plants a Lree.
worl output growth is the new fruit expected to follow,
“the Jagged flow method makes sense, and theve was nothing better until data for
markel-valued capital began appearing in 1990 or so. Bul the lag Lends to blur
causality. Later changes io output could have later causes. And output itsels, after
the lag, could not be measured reliably for lack of the same data. It has been
measured a5 gross ar net domestic product, reported as the sum of consumption
and book investment. Books don't get the news until new assets are bought or new
products sold. We Just saw the anomalaus hook results roparted for 1929, 1930,
1933 {thet opposite distartion), 1937 anil 2008. Thase are nal the poly exam ples. My
‘method measures oulpul as consumption plas change in market-vatued capital. It
sewn Lo me thal Pikelly and Zucimar ought ta ave shows outgul this way, at least
asan dtervalive version. [sn'Uil inconsistent 1o measure capital al marke, bul fo
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measure its chioge (net investment) al book? And isi 1 better Lo measure the
effectiveness of thrift with neither the lag nor the well-known problems of book
depreciation?
Iwill show the math of my simultaneous rates method in Chapters 4 and 5. Chapter
4rcasons from the Y=C +1 equation, even though {don't accept it, while Chapter 5
ransates findings int Use sew version {di acuept. Charts and Lables show hth
wersians for al eight countries reported, over all years reported, and run the
avurages. The Uri indies, or ratin of the supguised cost Lo actual grab, averages
zero. 1 found it hes a shaw separate chiar or each country by each of the La
versions of he Y - € + [equation dd by each of three levels of denominator
screening (none, then two progressively wider screens). Other charts track other
data that seemed informative. That explains why charts take up so much of this
book.
This completes ty Ast survey of ree growth theory and its support (n the data.
Chapters 4 and 5 will covar Une same ground again fram nos: perspectives. So it will
he wilh other hemes of this book and ather chapters. My problem is to sell
unfamiliar ideas, although not necessarily new boss, and in somewbal unfamiliar
Tunguage oo. My “simultaneous rites method”, yet (o be clarified is an example.
nse the standard language of economics where | can, but must sometimes tweak
words or coin them. We will see hat in Chaper 3.1 ey 10 cope wilh thal double
challenge - unusual ideas in unusual terens - by the same strategy of restatement
from new perspectives until all fits together.
Fixing the Y=1+C Equation
11 had ang sense Twwauld pretend 1a accept the ¥ =1+ C equatian as Mill and all
aher wennomists seer Wo do. Ther 1 ould have done with wl hall as many harks,
nil made Uns a bok about free growth only. Ang fool knuws thal & hook should
pick facus. Thie data confirming MiP idea would have mad a spectacular ale
Why undermine my awn case by questioning his assumptions? Sa should probably
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have played dumb and quil ahead. Bul thal would have left out half the story snd all
the other surprises. confessed that the surprises are the features | can't resist, If
they are fun for we, {can aceept the challenge of making thew fun for the reader.
Anyway, | already opened that can of worms by showing that | don't accept the
¥=1+( equation even though others do. | gave an idea why, and can sketeh my
reason outa litte farther.
Tt beging with something I call the tatal return rule or total retarn trulsm, The
truism is Uhl creation of value equals growth of value plus cash flow, where ash
ow means value Laken out Tess vue inserted from outside, Tan’ think anyone
doubls this \ruism, whicl is fundamental everywhere every day in the investment
world. Lwill prove it anyhow, just for good measure, in the next chapter. tis
probably the reason thatthe ¥ = C + { equation is readily accepted. Net investment |
is meant to show physical capital growth. It could look to be the groveth im valu, if
we don't consider human capital, and consumption €. could lon to be the value
taken aut.
Tut a second lok is needled, The logic doesn't work unless we consider all value
including human capital. Some consumption is invested in human capital. aod only
he rest exis the whole economy in satisfying Lastes. Then he equation would sill
be true if the invested part of consumption equaled human capital growth.
The reason why it doesn't starts with what we already know about human capital.
Petty in 1664 had hi on the idea of this as thue-disconnted fuzure itetime pay.
Adam Smith in 1776 saw it equivalently as accumulated past investment in narture
and schooling, The Americans Irving Fisher and Frank Knight revived bath ideas fn
the carly 200 century. The tempa picked up after World War If at the University of
Chivas. Jacoh Mincer vedirive Fisher's present value equation in 1958, and
‘modeled investment in human capital through job raining, Nobelisis Theodove
Schull and Gary Becker soan inl in. New insights includ Une realization Ul
human capital grows (rom the sell-invested work of learning, as well as the oulside
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input of nurture od schooling, aod tien depreciates gradually to zero just 5
buildings do. Yoram Ben-l'orath combined these ideas and more in a masterly life-
eyele model published in 1967. We'll get to it soon.
Schultz called the part of consumption exhausted in taste satisfaction “pure
cansumption”. The part invested in human capital was “pure ivestment”. | change
tha ta “vested consurm pian” La avid confusion with investment in physical
capital. Since there Is no settled tern for the part of work Invested in learning, 1 call
in "sell-investied work”. 1 call the art af viark soll far pay realized work”, Then the
consensus view forme! in the 1960s held that human capital growth eral
invested consumption plus sell-invested work less human depreciation. | agree,
with a clarification as to possible deadweight loss that [1] come o in Chapter 6.1 call
tthe Ben-Porath equation, although be drew it from the Schultz-led consensus. It is
really a summary of the first four of the equations in his 1967 paper taken together.
This explains my critique af the ¥ = 14+ C equation. The equation would he true if
human capital gravth equaled invested consumption. In fact it equals tal, plus self-
vested work less human depreciation. The trrected weuation sould read “output
equals consumption plus investment plus selfinvested work less human
depreciation”, | call this the *Y rule
Upending the ¥ - 1 + C equation is big news, Macroeconomics and the national
accounts are founded on it, 1hat's one reason, although not the main one, why |
think that macroeconomics should start over. It docsi't follow that national
accounts in themselves need much change, aside from reporting net investment at
market as well a5 at baok, because COUNTIES must measure what they can
Mumian depreclation and self-nvested work clude market measurement. Rot
ecanomists Gan allows for therm, and they are huge Noss. Taman depreciation is
depreciation of the larger (actor. And sell-iovested work includes more than
Tea ning. Ben-Parath shined, as we will see, thal iL equals all grant in human
capital mot explained by inflows of nurture xd schooling less oulows in bumao
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depreciation. Tha implies tt i includes l free growth of We larger fuclor, And
these huge flows would figure to be wicorrelated. Depreciation of either factor is a
steady drag on growth, while free growth is revealed in the charts and tables as a
bucking bronco which might be double-digit positive ane year and double-digit
negative the next. No wander that national accounts cannot reliably tell good years
from had.
Anather distortion In the Y=[+C equation is the undue jromincnce given to
cansumption. Physical capital, in mast views including mine, is ly a third la a iflh
af wtal including human capital. Tuma capiiz] is the lion's share, Pure
consumplion is mosL of conswmplion, in my view, bul not all of consumption. I the
factors grow in enutual proportion, then, the ratio of total capital growth to pure.
consumption wil be much bigher than of net investment to all of consumption, That
explains, think, why national accounts have reported not a single year of negative
net product in any of the cight countries since inception. Balanced portfalios report
negative tatal remrns every few years. Sa would net product, sere ft nat dominated
artificially by the steady positive of consumption. is as if a partfolio dominated hy
investment grade bonds were Uaken as reprisentative of a realistically balanced
portfolio.
Solving the Age-Wage Iuzzle
Jveill nove ey Lo solve a feature (hat troubled Ben-Porath snd bas troubled many
economists since, | call ix the age-wage puzzle. Age-wage profiles are published
reports comparing pay eared by all working ages at the same time. Since all
cohorts (same-age sets] are compared at once, as in a tawily portrait, age-wage
Irofiies do not show cftects of technological growth over thne. They show effects of
age and experience alone. What appears s that pay ir wage rises steadily until
retirement. ar avar iL Msmvhile human capital is present value uf remaining
lifetime pay, and shrinks steadily 5 approsching relirement aud mortality leaves
fier future payelays Uo discount, Most stants of human capital including Ren
Doral reason thal sell-investment must end when lime fl for recovery in higher
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future pay runs oul. So do L. The puzele is bow pay coukd ise while human capital
shrinks smoothly to zero,
“his would not bea puzzle if ve were speaking of ofl wells whose oil might continue
to he pumped outat a steady or cue rising rate until the well ean dry. We are
zed because pay is generally believed ta equal and compensate work. Wark
mass the aubput of human capital. Tow could less capital steadily produce: mare
output, meaning creation as distinet from depletion af value, particularly If sane
wark is sell-inwestied rather Unan marked for pay? Thal waull imply exponentially
rising productivity, meaning mle of return, and rising Lo infinity al the end.
Think about iL. Strictly speaking, buman capital is present value of future pay less
spending on future childhood nurture plus textbooks or tuition or job training
{collectively called “schooling” by Vineet) invested in human capital. Ben-Porath
Knew that, as had others before, but reasoned that investment in anything must stop
when not enaugh thie remains for recovery. 1 think sa tao. And {argue anghaw,
from observation rather ian Ing, that invested nurture and schooling
substantially end when we enter the full-time job market sometime in vur twenties.
Then human capital in adulthood is essentially present value of expected pay, or
even less if Bea-Lorath and L are wrong and nurture or schooling continues Lo the
end. When only a year of pay is left ahead of us, human capital at most is time-
discounted present value of one year’s pay. When one day is lel, iL is al most
present value of one day's pay. Yet age-wage profiles show pay (wage) holdiug level,
or even rising, as human capital grades smoothly to zero, This is the famous age-
wage puzzle. Pl Hesh out the same thought experiment later in what {call the
parable of the boss and her secretary.
Tonamists have recently prapaser salulivns which [see as farfetched. Possibilities
thal human capital inieed grows nore productive with age, or depreciate dl 1
ance, seem implausible ir each ase aml Gonnol begin W wxplain uraugh. 1 think
Becker hinted at the answer in 1964. Becker pointed aut tbat job training at the
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employers’ expense is par of investment in human capital, wd reasoned (hal
employers won't pay it unless they expect eventual recovery with interest.
What Hecker stepped short of saying is that the same is true of any investment in
anything by anyone. When we invest for our own henefit, we expect recovery by
ourselves. When we hvvest far the sake af others, we expect recovery hy them,
Rescinvery means resovery of degreiatian. Our parents would nol have invested in
our han capital withaut expected recovery of aur human depreciatian by us, and
the yang Further invest the wark af Teaming in themselves beciise they expect
that 10 be recovered with interest as well,
There is another proof which call the deadweight loss rule, Capital of any kind is
presentvalue of cash flow, meaning expected realizations in transfer or taste
satistaction, Deadweight loss means decapitalization with neither. tt follows that
deadweight loss, although a common reality, is implicitly unexpected. But human
depreciation, like plant depreciation, is expected from first investment. That rales
out dedsveight loss, and makes hwman depreciation expected as cash flow by
elimination af alternatives.
Each proof is sufficient, The first expresses what | call the maximand rule: we
‘maximize risk-adjusted rate of teturn. Robert Turgot observed this in 1766. 11) say
more about that in (he next chapter. 1 takes ite thought Lo realize (bat musimiziog
risk-adjusted return begins with recovery of investment, and that this means
recovery of depreciation or amortization. We are depleted like the oil well, although
we create value too. The second proatnceds only the assumption that human
depreciation 1s kareseen. It adds the specification that human depreciation fs
realized in foumvan cash ow. That Wins wat 1a man that tis realized in pay. The
salution bs the age-wage puzzle is thal pay das nol enal and compensate realiznd
work above. IL compensates (hat plus human depreciation. [call this the “pay rule’.
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The pay rule joins free growls theory and the ¥ rule as the tree major suprises
promised in my title. Recovery of human depreciation in pay changes a Jot of
equations. It docs not impact public policy and tax laws as radically as free growth
theory, but] will argue that t impacts them enough, Even Iie didn't its probably
the most startling assertion in this baok from an ceonomist's viewpoint And
although 1 naw knaw better than to afin originally for any idea i economics, this
one just might pass he Les. IT someane out there knaws a precedent daser than
Becker's, as eventually found anes for shat | had thaught were iy own free
growth and next generation thenries, all the mare fan in finding tase unsuspected
arcarsors. (Nest generation theory will be outlined soon.) And the twa proafs
Jesve no doubl. will add a few more as we go. Ibis never overkill to drive another
stake through the heart of entrenched misperception. Meanwhile we can already be
assure of that expected recovery, not actual recovery, as of anything we know. The
arguments trom the maximand rule (Tuegot's insight) and the deadweight loss rule
are unanswerable.
An analogy from samething else we all knaw leads to Une rest of my argument. Pay
aver warking careers is something like payments over Une period ofa declining:
balance mortgage. Mortgage payments are partly amortization and pally inleres!.
Amortization is like depreciation, though without the same sense of physical wear
and tear behind it, and interest is ike the worker's ouput marketed to employers,
“The declining balance is like human capital. Mortgage payments are almost all
interest at the start of the loan, when the declining balance is almost the whole loan
amount, and then gradually less interest and more amortization as the balance
shrinks. As the balance approaches ero at the end, the payment approaches all
amortization while the interest share approaches 7¢ro,
My deqrwciatian thenry, which well come Lo son, argues Wal depreciation fallaws
the sme logicand the same math. [will wgue, in the face of whal his seeped o be
contrary vvidunce, that depreciation of bith Faitars Iegins al era and grows
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exponentially o become al of cash love al the end. This completes the explanation
of age-wage profiles as we see them. Pay is all buman depreciation at the end,
What! Thought Once
Chapter 6 well compare accounting for human capital to accounting For a frm. Pay,
in this analogy, fs the worker's revenue. The inn deducts outside aperating costs af
Tahir and supplies Lo leave: grass realized output. The analogy for human cipital
would be maltenance consumption enabling life and activity. But] don't deduct
thisin reaching Lhe workers’ gross realize out pul (gross realized work) because
Take it as pact of the ned pulpal we intend in itself rather than a cost in retusa for
whi we intend. [see astult consumption as mainly Schull’ pure consumplion
exliausted from the universe of capital, including husan capital, in satisfying our
taste for adult survival.
Opinion is divided here. Some cconamists have treated the maintenance
camsumption that keeps workers going as new fvestment fn human capital for the
sake of higher pay in futures Some in the 16 century expensed i, like: maintenance
in the firm, ax a cast recovervil in keeping up Ue workers revenue (pay) now,
rather (an invested for later. ) did hat for years. [now treat it as recovered neither
in pay now nor pay Luter. Even though we couldnt earn without it | count in pure
consumption exhausted in satisfying tastes for survival,
When [ thought it was recovered in pay and work products, up to about five years
ago, realized that human depreciation could not also be. There would be nothing
Jeft for pure consumption except Mill's "unproductive consumption” neither
replacing nor maintaining human capital. That would stand bialogy on its head.
Binagy Is precisely about replacing and maintaining us. Tnpraductive consamptian,
Tov whith ther seein Lo be parallels in ober species, is something biology his yet 1
Justify JL caonol be the unique taste satisfaction tht behavior reveals.
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1found & solution thal seemed 1 make sense then, [Lwas the exact opposite of what
J think now. (f maintenance consumption were recovered in pay and work products,
as now think buman depreciation but not maintenance consumption is, then
human depreciation instead of maintenance consumption could he exhausted in
taste satisfaction! That seemed less macabre to me then. Inked for ways in which
Tnan deprecation, hardly the binlagical end in itself, could somehow be its
measure Than nt unreasonable, T thought, by interpret human depreciation in
aging as the cost of survival. The old gag says that aging I not so bad when you
think ahout the alternative Age-wage profiles could be explained, {thought ther, ax
recovery of maintenance consumption rather than of human depreciation in pay.
And Ia Whose precedents from Lhe 168% century. {knew thal Francois Quesniy
and the physiocrats, in Adam Smith's time, had argued too that consumption could
be recovered in earnings. ¥ill could be interpreted that way, in bis definition of
“productive consumption”, as could Picro Sratfa in a paper from 1960. thought |
was on the right track.
What brought me Ly my senses was the thought experiment ahout a boss amd her
secretary [ mentioned earlier. Pictury hen together at the beginning of the last year
af huni cipitid for each. The bass earns len limes as much, Hum capital for each
3 one year's pay, or even less in the unlikely case that invested consumption
continues to the end, less one year's discount. If pay measured work, rate of return
{ovork/human capitil) would be some hing aves 100% per year for each. It would
be even more in the unlikely case that some work remains unrealized {self invested)
until the end. Yet their time preferences measured by return to their other
investments, say secnitics, is less than a tenth as much. This already states pretty
clearly that pay covers more than work.
To cans her was dab, go ari a the beginning of the last thay. Age-wage profiles
show hal pay far each is about whial il was « year before, Rale of relurn (o each is
ns a little over 100% per day. A the beginning of he lasL secon, iL is a litle aver
100% per second. Al tbe end of the last second iL is infinite, Yel lhe securities in Ueir
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portfolios are chosen or returns no higher and riskier than the year before, They
will tend in fact to be lower, judging from logic and evidence for a decline in risk
tolerance sith age.
“Then what hesides work is recovered in pay? The twa possibilities [was weighing
were maintenance consumption and human deprecation. The winner was abviaus.
The higher-paid usually consume more, hut not always and satin proportion, The
fact that we must generally he paid enough ta cover consamption does not ply
thal vie are: pic Ly comssame, Wee ace motivated Ln do thal anyon. We: are paid la
aaply skills, ancl are paid in proportion to sills applied. man capital is skill sels.
Pay measures ils Uransfer Lo products, whether in realized work currently created or
from capital in place through human depreciation.
“that’s how 1 came to the pay rule. We soc why it ought to startle economists.
Macroceonamic tradition teaches the doctrine that wage measures work, and
teaches it so confidently that ft uses the notation W for either. uma capital
tradition recognizes that some work is self-investid, but effectively Lreats human
dupreciation as deariesight Joss, That's why 1 use “pay” in place of the more usual
“wage”.
Refuting a Piketty Argument
“There re practical uses for the pay rule aside (rom solution of the age-wage
problem. These are the impact or, tax Javes and public policy that { promised. Piketty
has shoven corvectly that the ratio of pay to net profit rose substantially during the
world wars, world depression and welfare state period following, and has declined
since. Piketty argues for higher capita) taxes in cansequence. lis argument folios
tradition in comparing pay and net prafitas the shares af workers and investors in
incame. Bul tradition is wrong. Pay ix the worker's grass realized income, meaning
gross af human depreciation. Depreciation, for either factor, isa steadier Qow, This
makes gross out ul for wither less responsive Lo uptarns and downturns. [Lis a
particulily high share of realized income or output in hard times when dislocation
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ofboth factors (human and physical capital) drives net output down, Comparison
between net income and gross realized income can mislead. Piketty is right about
the data, but wrong about irs interpretation.
Depreciation Theory
This is the explanation | pramiscd when sald that depreciation fs essentially like
amoriizatian. Acwounting Lends Ln practice straight-line depreciation over stand
depreciation periads. A well-lmawn refinement, allowed but not nuh practiced in
Business, is talled current ost accminting. The idea is to corre istortinns due to
ast inflation. The problem is thal books reflect longterm assets and their
depreciation al original cost at date of booking, Currenl cost accounting adjusts both
10 the equivalent in current dollars. Lt shows both net worth and depreciation as
higher if prices inflated since booking, or lower if prices deflated. That seems to
‘make sense.
A further adjustment called replacement cast accounting docs the same, hut alsa
rupees linear depreciation with a curve believed more realistic. National accaunts
ardopt this method, (Lis sound in principle. But they stipe the curve in the won
direction, They rely un records of uctual sales of plant 10 model depreciation as
steep initially and slower later. | suggest that bis record is misleadiog.
My starting point is thal value of any capital is discounted cash flow, To keep things
simple at first, suppose that cash How in constant dollars is expected to hold steady
for titty years before asset lite ends. Also suppose a constant time discount rate.
Present value at the outset Is fifty years of discounted cash low. At the beghinfng of
the sccand year, tis 49 years present value of the same gash law at the same:
discount rate. All ral is been Tost is prose vate of the 50% and most-liscountisd
yer. A the start of the third yeir, capital bas dropped again by present value of the
49 aml secand-mos, discounted year. Sa il continues until the end as the discount
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‘period approaches zero, Depreciation increases absolutely each year, and increases
even faster in ratio to capital.
What | have just modeled is depreciation rising exponentially from zero at the start
102 maximum at the end. National accounts show the exact opposite. They show it
decreasing exponentially fram a maximuin at the start, The reason for the difference
is instructive. [would rather Last the present value frmula t show what assets
are worth subjectively ta thelr owners. The national accounts prefer to trust
evidence is Lo whl they are worth to others if sald. That's a solid methand toa if the
evidence is likely 10 prove representative. 1 isn'L in cases where Liansactions are
more likely lo have been driven by pressure lo sell than pressure Lo buy. Plant is
generally tailored to purposes of its first owner, and not medwt to be resold. Mant
sales tend to follow disappointing results. These are ikelier to come early as
business plans are tiest tested. That could explain why evidence without logic has
suggested that depreciation tends to start Rast and slow down with time.
Twnuld recommend that national acount continue tracking actual sales as an
indicator af ue depreciation curves, but limit the study tn rental buildings
expected from the start 1o be resold several limes. | mean apartment buildings,
oftice buildings and warehouses designed long standard lines. Many investors
specialize in buying and selling these tradable assets for portiolio purposes.
Pressure 10 buy snd pressure Lo sell lend Lo balance.
J can testify that prices bic for them ave found either by discounted cash flow or
internal rate of return {JRR) methods. [IRR is a variant of the same thing. A id price
#5 modeled as the original negative cash flow in evaluating the prapased purchase.
Then the positive cash lows at each year's end are mideled, and the discount rate
Tourid which nets present valu of all Mins gether bo zero. This rate is judged
competilive, Ube purchase goes ahead. This method was vriginated by Keynes in the
Generat Theary ws his "marginal product of capital”.
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And repeat thal most other structures re nol mean o be resold. Productive plant
is customized to original owners, Tract housing is not, but becomes adapted to them,
Qriginal plant operators and homeowners typically expect to stay put. Most do.
When they do, thelr own valuations arc higher than would likely be realized in sale.
Owners’ valuations matter. Eeanomics is move than prediction of sales prices. It is
Irediction of behavior. Tis the owner's valuation af an asset, nota hypothetical
outsile valuatinn, thal. predicts whit Te will do Lo split and defend it,
My depreciation thenry dae nol jolt sel belie as fareibly as free grnwth theory
ar the pay rule and ¥ rule do. [contradicts aoly a minor feature of the natin)
accounts. Bul it contradicts hat diametrically, and adds clarity o te pay cule Loo, [U
5 also original as fac as | know. Who has said such a thing before? All the more fun
and satisfaction in finding out and setting the record straight, There are giauts out
there, whether | ever make it to their shoulders or not, and economic history means
identifying them
Retirement Theory
Retirement generally means the period or first moment when people end the.
careers for which their raining has been specialized, The reason is Lypiclly not
diminished skills and performance just yel, as age-wage profiles show na litle or no
drop in pay toveard the end. | think it is more that we and our bosses see the drop
coming.
Liceval pay is typically zero in retirement, Instead we carn imputed pay for taking.
care of oursclves and one anothey, and for driving the grandkids to the 700. These
services are tangible, not psychic, fn that they: save the hire of athens to do the same.
The imputed pay Is what the othes would have charged. Tut it typically Is not.
enmigh Wo meel aur consumylion needs Relies must Lypically draw dawn savings
ar depentt on “sovial lransler payments’, meaning support from government or
Family wr foundations, to make ends meel.
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Iu seems tha these infusions from savings or il cannot be interpreted as invested
consumption to be recovered with interest later, but are rather pure consumption
recovered nove in the satistaction of survival. Then human cash flow, or pay less
invested consumption, remains positive to the end if we recognize imputed pay.
Feonamists should, [ think, hecause it figures into predicting behavior as much as
literal pay. So does psyehic pay.
allows that human capital, mean ng present value ofall pay in the absence of
invested consumption ta deduct, aontinues aller retirement. That shins Ural my
parable uf the boss and her secrutary is oversioglified. Parables tend (0 be, The
secrelary may hiuppen 1o hive beller skills as « full-time caregiver, which both she
and the boss will igure Lo be in retirement, and so may reverse the disparity in
‘human capital then. All models, | guess, assume ceteris paribus (other things equal).
My retirement theory leaves much unexplained It tries to throw a litle light here
and there. | believe ft achieves some surprise, and even originality until we know
heer, in my argument thal human capital cantinues afler retirement. Yel this
follows directly from Ben-Parath, Tnvested consumption must end when time for
recavery runs out, whether or not am right in ending iL wilh job entry decarles
before, and human pital must Last as long as eral or imputed pay dos. The
endurance of buman capital through to mortality is not logical certitude, but need
not be doubled either.
Retouching the Ben-Porath Model
Ben-Paraths lite cycle model seems right enough in all features but one. Fquations
in his 1967 paper ply that pay measures realized work alanc. This should be
adjusted to show Ue pay rule. 1 would also model invested consumption as ending
ainidependente, or a fess mnths Tater Lo alla far initial job Lining That tows nol
contradict Ben-Porath, who leaves such a possibility open. wold further apply
depreciation theary to matel human depreciation as grimving from a negligible
share of pay al firs! employment Lo substantially all of pay at te eod.
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My model is the same as Beo-Uoratl's from birth to independence, All consumption
and all work are invested, for modeling purposes, until schooling ends at full-time
job entry. | model this transition at age 20. Pay, realized work, human depreciation
and pure consumption all hagin at that point, althaugh human depreciation begins
at essentially zero.
Selfnvested wark continues as an hnportant but diminishing share of sari until
Tate in carvers, just as in Ren-Porath. | differ from him mildly in tat [model all aul
consumption as pure consumption. Ben-Porath allows adult invested consumption
wilkoul issuing il regicd il as read bul negligible. Age-wage profiles are
explained by self-invested work and depreciation theory alone,
I model this scif-invested work as subliminal accumulation of job experience. My
reason is persanal observation. What I have seen in plants and aHices is people
working Full tine on the joh. We don't take time off ta learn. perience siaply
arvives, neh as free growth does. 1 think thal my view an this contradicls Ben-
Poratlys marginally. Te seems Lo allaw some such allocation of lime 1 lelp explain
age-wage profiles.
Next comes retiremeut. L model this as just shown, Later | will expand this model to
include acquisition and disposal of physical capital Loo, The combined model will
give most of the math and mechanics of next generation theory.
Risk Theory
Tor practical purpases, ccananie risk is usually measured as expected standard
destation in rate of retin. Safer assets vary Joss from thelr return norms. Short-
term Lrwsuries are thoughl safest because they combine fied nomial return with
fast liquidity in case inflation threatens, The urarked overall bits safer expected
outputs up anid viskier ames down, Since asset value is Ue deominator in rate of
return, and oui pul the numerator, Ue effect is make risker assels bigher in retucn,
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Risk tolerance might be anything in any individual. As a norm, it tends to be a
function of age, gender and wealth. Effects of age and gender ave better understood.
Teens and young adults, particularly moles, seem readiest to take chances, Prison
Populations and medal of honor rolls feature young males. Part of the explanation, |
hil, Is Iologist R. A. Fisher's se ratio theary of 1930, ar equally oh Trivers”
differential investment theory of 1971, Young males shiv greatest variance in
sepraductive prospects. Females are abost always assured af a fess offspring.
Young males might leave none ar many. Nature arranges our naments or displays bo
ive fitter males the advanlage,
Another reason is that the young, of either sex, have most time eft to outride
downswings. The older we ger, the more risk-averse.
Some businesses and assets are inherently viskicr than others. Nert balls are safer
than hand grenades. Bt] prefer to laok past the asset awned to the owner. We tend
10 own assets suited ta aur risk prefers. And we lind ta operate it as safely or
riskily as we like, Thi is ue particu vf human capital although it was first
designed according Lo our parents’ goals rither than ours. Human capital is
probably he most versatile assel, even so, and is adupled Lo our purposes rather
than theivs. We make it as visky as we choose. The risk-averse can become florists or
“Trappists. Risk lovers can try bullighting or skydiving, Whal does that tell us about
the relative risk of the factors?
Human capital is owned dispropartionately by the young. We own very fittic
Dhysical capital, legally or in practical elect, until maturisy. Pay at first is barely
enmigh far sureival. Wee accumulate It gradually as pa rises with age, and then
deplete itin pravision for the young and in pur-awn retirement. Since physical
capital is owned isproportionaiely by the older and more tisk-averse, and hunen
capital the contrary, human capital figures Lo be higher an average in risk ani return
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There is another useful inference, Adults own assets in (he business and housing
sectors. Older adults tend more to own debt claitns on these sectors, and younger
adults to oven equity claims. But all adult ages collectively own both sectors
collectively. It does not follow that the sectors are equal in risk, as older individuals
night tend to ow ane sector predominantly, and younger ons the other, As a
Tagan, | don't really know.
What | happen to know ks that the publicly traded carparate scetar, meaning stocks
particulary bul also bonds, is far more lui Usan Une housing sector, and thal the
rest uf the business sector is far Tess liquid tan either. Risk in gener] includes
liuidity risk. This leads me Lo the hypothesis or hunch ba re housing sector in
genera] should be safer then the business sector, ceteris paribus, but that the
publicly traded corporate sector, cap-weighting debt and equity claims on it, may be
satestotall.
The idea that stocks and bands cap-weighted are safer than houses might have heen
Taughed ta scorn a fis years ago. dasa Lseern sn funny aller 2008. view iL an
ida a he esta, moL rusted, uni] more is known. 171t halds up, it will ranks
anolber suprise,
‘the effect of individual wealth on tisk tolerance is less understood. Here | judge
more from hunch and impression (han (rom data. Given hal human needs are fairly
uniform, as with the private and the general, more wealth gives more insulation
from want. Talent is wealth in human capital, and gives the same. Less, in either
factor, gives less margin for error. My hunch and impression is that the wealthier in
either factor should tend ta he mare Fisk tolerant so long as human capital ftsel is
not put i arr way. [uman capital operates physical capital, and gives the means
af tvcivery. The wealthier, in tadent ur net arth, should prave the lest templet
towaril sky diving and Russian rouleile.
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In this book Iwill usually be modeling tisk and return al the collective scale or al the
caliort ane. A cohort means the set of all same-aged individuals It turns out that the
ratio of females to males tends to rise with each alder cohart, for reasons Bob
Trivers explains, as does wealth uj toa PORE. But i cohort analysis, both effects
{wealth and scx ratio) are incorporated into effects of cahort age. That will simplify
modeling
My risk theary Is another example af what loalks to be surprise and novelty antl
shown otherwise. The unusual idea lies in projecting the awae’s tine
reference) rele rate valo he asset rather tan conversely, Thus all the wwners
assels of both factors are selected vr modified to fil ber current risk profile, This
would count her liquid securities portfolio, cap weighted, as a single asset, All other
assets ae too illiquid for practical rebalancing. We own the assets best suited to our
isk profiles, if for no better reason than that we wouldn't be the winning bidders
for any others if we wanted them. As ou isk profiles evolve with age, we wodity or
trade them. We will tend to have anticipated this need, and ta have factored
modification or trading costs inte aur bid price. i. turns out ral this interpretation
can simylify the math of present value and present cosi.
helps in supporting the pay rule, and expluining age-wage prodles, by rebulling a
hypothesis, sometimes argued, that productivity of human capital might rise with
ge. Productivity, cele of return and time preference rte all mean the same. My risk
theory argues that we Kaow a cohorts risk tolerance from the return to its cap-
weighted securities portfolio as a whole. All other assets of the same cobort,
including human capital, will tend to agree with tin return. Return ta security
Dvtfolios tends to he transparent, Tt declines with adult cohrt age. | Infer that
return Lo human capital docs th same.
My risk theory and depreciation theory together add a Guishing touch to the pay
rule The key supporting evidunce is age-wage profiles. Depreciation theary affers
salid logic, in the face of apparent contracy dats, thal pay is all buman depreciation
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al the end. Risk theory ceinforces i impression by adding that the contribution of
‘productivity in the form of realized work/buman capital actually declines, Une
cannot pound too many stakes through the heart of the doctrine that pay
compensates realized work alone.
Next Generatlon Theory
Tals real. rate of return. This combined free growth theory with insights of Petty
In 1662 and William Stanley [evans fn 171, Petes idea was that cach generation
asses the baton Lo Use mel. Our investment horizon is he generation Jength. (ls
recipracal, or one ver thal period, gives our tine prefervote rte. Jevons also sas
time preference as (he reciprocal of the period of production, bul dit nol connect
that 10 the generation length. Ladjust Petty’s estimate of the length from lis 21
years to 28.5 by allowing for later births as well as firstborns, The reciprocalis 3.5%
peryear. ] add free groveth as an exogenous and nspecitied variable.
As with Mil and fice growth theory, | have to walk a fine Iie between crediting
Petty and pulling my ideas in his mouth. Bey dictated his hoales ard pamphlets,
and is nol always clear, My idea, probably bul not certainly Une same as his, is (al
euch generation invests everything in the nex! in trust that it will do the same. 411
our capital oC both factors, although Petty spoke only of & cornfield, is exhausted in
putting the next generation in place, The time horizon to get this done is the
generation length.
his 28,5 years, as Lmodel it, becomes Jevons' “period of production”, Its reciprocal,
‘meaning one aver it, gives rate of retam. he idea of a period of production whose
reciprocal gave rate of rerurh had begun with Rac fn 1934, if yau don't count Petty,
an passed thraugh Nassau Senior to Jevons and Bich Tawerk. All assumed
grovihlessness for simplicity. Relurn is yeh ras pls cash ow sate, simplifies
10 the pure consumption cate at (he collective scale, All these men, even Petty, were
really modeling the pure consumplivn rate. 20.5 yes gives te period of
replication, in my view, or period of production if there were oo growth,
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Free growth then arrives at its whim, like a deus ex machina, without calling for
‘more than this steady effort of replication. | find myself focusing more and more on
that cash How COMPONCN: of Tate Of TET, OF ure Consumption Tate at the
collective scale, as the part we can predict and model.
The generation length is a biolngical norm which probly has it varied hy mare
than a Factor af twa since Ancestral Rc some 200,000 yar ago. This suggests that
ext generation theory can be lested against data from any period. Meanwhile iL
sreicts ouly al the collective stale, Collective return is average risk return. Sublract
collective growl ale Lo leave cash low ale, Retuen nd growth are two of the
most closely medsured rates in economics. That says tha ests of next generation
theory should be practical. will show tables broadly in support,
Next generation theary is a blockbuster. An explanation of interest and etm has
heen the Holy Grail of capital theory: Boehm Bawerlk contributed a big advance by
ruvualing return ais an artifet of ime: preference rather tan the wher way around.
Somme including Trving Fisher hive seen nat beautiful insight as enough
Mot me. What explains and quantifies lime preference? Whi urned oul o be
Petty's idea occurred to me about 40 yeaus ago, when [Airst took an incerest in
evolutionary biology. My [riend Alun Rogers. « populition geneticist | did know
all the time, was thinking in the same direction. His two published papers on this are
in my appends. Neither of us kuew about Petty’s priority.
“The idea would have heen still igger ockhuster hefore the wall came down.
Wars wore heing fought alm whether return has any legitimacy at all. Karl Mars,
iranically a mmpian of Pelly, may have missed his argument an tat
Pet's inl is cally the bilagical imperative [discussed in Chapter 1. The frst
‘riorily is survival and reproduction, Twill argue Ural this was ioplicily avcepled
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throughout economic history until new insights now summarized as the marginalist
revolution began in 1871, The marginalists, mentioned in the forward, swapped the
telescope for the microscope. They left aside the grand teleologies of Smith and
Ricardo and Mill and Marx to refocus on the mechanics of choice. Reasons for tastes
or choices were treated as irrelevant. By 1900 or so, the marginalists had given us
microeconomics much as we knaw It today. & century woald pass before
Wioecaramics lank firm in response by amills rule.
Summary
Thal gives the outline, TU is bymian's view of whi & proper economist might not
have stempled. Fools rush in. [will cite sources in economics wd biology not lo
pretend that | xm an authority, but to give real ones a chance to check. My case rests
onthe charts and tables. Mill might have been astonished to find that the kind of
growth he described is the only kind to appear in the record.
What makes my baa different, aside fiom my lack of credentials, fs the surprises
ail the unusual ilegrus of abstraction learling to them, Nol many writers Lry ta
follow a chain of inference 5 far without the comforting Louch of the stone and
waud and rape, If Becker had been as venturesome, he might well have solved the
ape-wage problem in 196+.) see no other path, Economics is all inside. (Lis tastes
expressed in choices. Capital is foreseen satisfactions discounted by whatever our
Taste for impatience is. Most of itis human capil Leaving litle market record
beyond its rental cost in pay, Logic is about al we have left.
But the story cannot end in thin aie. Few would pay the nuisance cost of so much
abstraction without prospect of surprising and testable prediction. 1 will ry to
deliver that. Mil's Idea is a surprise W paliticians, if less so 10 ccanamists, and could
hardly he tested mars toraughly and sucessfully. When new ies are thought up,
Mother Nature says “Shazam” and embodies them al no cost beyond the
depreciation phish we needa anyveay. The dala could nut be nore suppntive iF
Mill and) bad invented then, Even my proposed solution Lo the age-wage problem,
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which must hive seemed hopelessly stuck in subjectivity, pad off finally in that
solution and in a refutation of Piketty's argument, Risk theory aud depreciation
theory, each surprising enough, reinforced that solution and the pay rule. I said
nothing in the this chapter about bank seform because | covered that in Chapter 1.
Predictions of behavior can work hecause tastes converge ta market equilibria
What stands behind Une canvergenve, argu, is biology selecting lasts that
maintain and reproduce us. The Idea thats act aut the biological Inperative is
clear in Petty amt Malthus, and in Ue equilibrium wage theary af Adam Smith an
David Ricardo, where pay converges Lo the level preserving Ue work farce, Buti 1
si everything about thal now, [will have nothing lo say later.
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CHAPTER 3: FOUNDATIONS
Historically, foundations and science itself emerge at the end of centuries of
practical application. A logical place for foundations in textbooks is the begioniug. So
itwas with Halliday and Resnick on physics, which began with Newton's Kinetics
{mation in time and space) and then this three Jaws. Only i the last chapter did the
authors remind us that FST later put two of these three fnto question, and even
the Kineties. Halliday and Resnick reasoner, correctly Think, thal. we sometimes
Tesi mar efficiently by learning something slightly wrong fist and fixiog it later: T
will do (hl in a sense, by rexsoning first rough free growth theory as if the ¥ = C +
J equation were Lrue, and then again wilk the wo corrections. The sometimes
counterintuitive logic of teaching and learning, including that, is “heuristics”,
Building on explicit axioms was common in economics throughout the classical
period running from Petty in the 17 century theough Mil in the 19th. Then came
the major shift in focus, beginning in 1871. called the margialist revolution. What
‘mattered vas less our goals, and more the market mechanisms that aligned supply.
demand and price. The meeting point was te margin. Axianis about goals
disapeared, including the sual wie of priveilizing survival and reprodudian, and
wioms kept sere usually lef implicit. The implicit anes, essential lo marginaliso in
my view, included convergent Lastes and predictions, ) will make (bose two and.
others explicit, and eventually add back the goals.
“Ihis book on the whole is about second-guessing what is taught. This chapter is
different. The nearest thing toa surprise in itis the idea that economics needs
explicit foundatians i the sense of axions and basic definitions and equations. 411
the ones | chaps ane well accepted. Why | pick which should seem obvious in
Wiadsight. But same wini-surprises will accumulate. Why do {take such pains to
rine every feature of whal iveryane accepts al vady? Why all the boilerplate amd
Iletpranfing? T need them because [will later (ry ta shool dawn other beliefs
evirynne acrepts. Wet must ki what is sound Uo find what is nol.
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Another mini-surprise is the physics-like care in definitions, The reason is that my
arguments latee will drive logic pretty far. Logic needs words that are like algeraic
symbols in meaning the same thing all along.
Figuratively and literally, foundations arc graundsvark. They wil be less a chare if
you love: logit: Ard you'd better if you're gaing ta like the later chapters Tels gel
started.
Orfentation
Economics itself, think 5s % quantitative rationale of choices, Psychology is i sister
study not explicitly quantitative, and accounting for sublimina] behavior as well 1s
deliberate choices. The two fields cooperate and overlap. Economics is quantitative
in that asks how much as well as what, and focuses on numbers, tis science-lile
in that loaies for surprising and testable predictions in the end. [tis philosophy-
Tike fn that chofces are subjective and that the larger factor, human capital, leaves
tthe marke evden from which W reasin upward. Both facts pul. the burden an
reason downwart from axioms
Much of the evidence for both (actors, mening physical and human capital, comes
from the vecords of liteval markets where we rent and hire and buy and sell Most
economics looked no further until Gary Becker and others expanded the boundaries
about SU years ago, The expansion made sense. A rationale of choices in literal
‘markets alone sa silly concep. It is silly to acknowledge only choices that ring cash
registers. We are the same people everywhere. Logic is the same everywhere, We
have ttle interest in axioms that aren't the same everywhere. Becker was vight to
sou chalees In marriage and even crime as predictable In terns of supply and
drmand and price.
Thal includes psyrhic price. nee wee follow Becker past literal markets, we accept
psychic value and yield. We must anyhow. Value is in tbe mind, Geonomics works as
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raionale of choices, hence vidues, because bumin nature leads minds (0 converge.
The literal market adds a measure. Whea we step outside it, we make do without the
‘measure and trust logic alone.
A Diamond Ring Parable
Tiike a picture: ofa diamond rig to sha something ahout psychic value and yield,
ani even abut whal slut and exhaust in consumplion are. The rng brings
Jsgehic yield to its wearer: IF didnt, would Have no value. tts yield bs cach
yee satisfaction, and its value sms al Gme-disciunted prospective anes
together, Value therefore drops just i lille ss wach yield is finally realized. 1 is as
will apples dropping (rom a tree, Yel the ring is inert. IL ostensibly produces
nothing, t also keeps all its value as a ring from day Lo day. hen where does the
outflow of the value iu the exhaust come from? How can value go out if none vas
deducted and none produced? In the tree, we can see the apples growing and falling.
“he answer is that some value wes produced in the ring, and some deducted tao.
Wha we: dice notices was the canstant shortuning of remaining discount perinds.
seach ny pisses, ach future yield comes ane day closer. These are the apples
slowly ripening on Lhe ree. Present valu of each rises because the discount period
covers Jess Une, This creation of value is output by definition, even though nothing
has moved but the bands of the clock. As the discount period veaches zero, the
expected yield eventuates 1o explain the laste satisCaction. These yields are (he
apples falling to be eaten. The ring holds its value jatact because the exbaust of
value it surrendered has exactly offset the output of replacement value as time alone
shortens discount periods. Yet nat an atom stirred.
The whole points that the valu of the ring ar anything else is discaunted prosent
value af foreseen satisfactions, They are discounten because Uhare is such a thing as
“line preference’; we value salistactions now over foreseen ones later, This is not
quite the same as the difference between births in the hand and birds in the bush.
Thal says thal we value cerlaiolies over probahilLies. Time preference alsa values
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Present certainties over [ulure certainties, The reason is studied in a branch of
economics called "capital theory”. iy next generation theory, really Petty’s of 1662,
proposes what the average-risk ime discount rate is and why. Present value of each
expocted instant of future saristaction grows at that rate as time shortens the
discount perind. It disappears, as apples from the tree, when expectation matures
nto reality.
This diamond ring parable fs ful oT useful lessons. 1 think it cantains substantially all
oF exonpimics. “Cansider he lilies of the field” “They also serve sho vale stand and
wail” 4 chemist would Testify Wal the ring bas done nothing, An economist sees
plenty happening, Economics is abstraction, Physical capilal is nol tings. aad
human capital is not people. Is all in the mind. What an economist sees is present
value evolving with time as expectations ripen aud eventuate, Output is not what we
do, although it has to do with what we do. [ts the passage of time. Exhaust is the
fruition of time and the harvest reaped.
Only when we allow psychic values can we say that all behavior is ecanamic
hehiavior. (Lis chives among alternatives. That's whal makes econamics philosophy.
Axioms
“then what should its axioms be? We woud like empirical or real-world certainties.
find none beyond Descarte's cogito. Philosophy is cerlidn of next 10 nothing, We
settle for working assumptions, We want ones as safe and few as possible. Those of
economics have usually beer lef implicit since the marginalist revolution. | dropped
the course because 1 Flt their need. It should do no harm, at this point, to risk the.
opposite extreme. [ets ty putting everything on the table.
My first axiom, in thal spirit, will be uguidead natu ral causality. This need nol alarm
the devoul.ILis the working assumption of all science, Workiog assumptions are
nn creel. {cant rulk aut Une gusibility of wecasional or even continuous
intervention by Gad 1b explain whi we see, Bul we know to act as if we ruled iL out
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when our stience bats are on. Even philosophy, in the Western Lradition, leaves
revelation aside. A practical consideration is that debates of how God is likely to be
‘motivated to intercede have tended to tind little consensus or traction. Science gets
some.
Tipped iny hand on ny own views In Chapter 1. As chairman of the Leakey
Faundation far mare thar 40 years, 1 pretty clearly buy evolution theory and
unguided natural casualty as working assumptions. But {invite those who don't to
rea further before deciding Unt se will disagree pn conddusions. 17] Fares
conflict with the devaul, which T doo, Tswoukl feel obligated Lo warn Uners now. 11
bring, this up again 4s we go along.
My next few axioms, Jumped together, are a mortal and reproducing population
which competes, cooperates and freclances to act on convergent predictions. tt acts
to satisty convergent tastes in a world af limited resources. {will model the
Dopulation as human, although other specics would do insofar as wy axioms hold
fir therm, “Convergent” means non-identical frm individual to individual vr place to
lace ve moment ta mament, but converging ( avn with increasing stale in space
worl time. Predictions converge Lo outcomes as well as la one anolher,
“the points that tastes and predictions must be convergent enough for markets to
foren and hold. A marke, as Becker knew, is where anyone mekes any choice among.
alternatives, A litecal market is where a choice leaves a quantitative record, Markets
cannot form and hold if we cannot predict where to find thet and what they supply
and when they are apen. They cannot form and hold without some consensus that
what we predict they wall offer Includes something we want. Clothing stores can
wrk because aur siz and sha pes Fall mostly within standard ranges. Their
Business wuld be in Lvuble if we did nal agree in number and rough placement of
actns and Legs dnd head, Restaurants can work because we can find whal we want
ona finite mer. Most crucially, clothing stores and restaurants cannot hold unless
there is consensus on what Uneir wares ace worlh in return. Al this convergence
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suggests a single species, though the axon ouly said population. The ants aud he
picnickers can compete for the Junch, but they cannot bargain for it. The bar in Star
Wars is a great gag because ir thumbs ts nose at this home uth. We converge in
taste tor the hilarious,
Twill add the bialogical Imperative as a separate aon later, although nach of that
al least may be implicit in the first ane of natural asality, We hate unnecessary
atoms, fram goad Occamite principle, but we hate unsupported inference or
questinn-begging worse.
Tspell oul the axiom of morlalily and reproduction because | know I'm beading
towards Petty's insight and nex! generation theory. Of course we design foundations
10 Support what we want on top. It seems to me that try axioms mention nothing
about rationality, whatever that might mean, except in the sense of assumed
convergence of predictions to outcomes. And that assumption itself might not be
eritical. What seems critical that is the predictions should converge to a knawn
fumetinn of puteames. If hey comverge Lo something prediclabily iveroptimistic ar
averpessimistic, we're sill in business, Lacking even that, ecanomic science is
stillborn. We can't predict chavs.
“That's an example of the principle that axioms need ot be strictly true, They must
be true enough. We're stil] in business if God intervenes a litle bere and there. Much
more than that, and the convergent prediction axiom uns into the problem of
predicting the mind of God.
“The tw convergence axioms, of tastes and predictions, are implicit in all
micrieconomics. “icra”, as ceonomists call It is about supply meeting demand at
rice vipuilibrinm. This insight ses Ue main heme of the marginalist revalution, ts
exactly whal can't happen without convergent astes dnd predictions. I's exactly
why thee bar in Star Wars is a hoa Ants find price equilibria in ant markets, and
people in people markels. Ants and people find no meeting of the minds. Then if
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macroeconomics (“macro rests on mic, the convergence axioms say only what
economics has accepted implicitly since micro began. The “law of one price",
‘meaning marke equilibrium, actually begins a century and a half cartier with
Cantillon. But Jevons, in co-founding the marginalist revolution in 1871, effectively
‘made itan axiom.
Tort wan. a seem Lo claim thal the wonvergence axioms ane safe because Wey art:
accepted. Arguments od maforitatean or ad ouctorftatem prave nothing, But markets
di seem te form and ald, and the onvergences seem implied. Authority and
majority are sometimes right,
Mot all economists have agreed. There have been “historicists” and
“justitutionalists" who mistrust the idea of convergent tastes, and prefer to see
idiosyncratic national tradition or power groups or mindsets as the prime movers in
place of unitorm human nature. Heinrich Sehmoller, a historicist wha stressed
national differences, tangled with Carl Menger, an independent en-faunder af the
marginalist revolution in 1571, in a childish feud for shich Menger was at least as
much to blame, IF yan must answer your critics, be gations. Tharstein Veblen, an
institutionalist from Wisconsin, coined he ecm “neoclssicism” for whit we now.
call marginalistn, He made fu of it for missing the role of institutions in driving
economies for ustitutional or collective goals rather than individual human ones.
J think there's something there, My main thew in this book is growth theory atthe
collective scale. argue that collective growth flourishes where Jays and practices
and cultures nurture and protect it. These are national institutions. New ideas, by
definition, are opposite from the fangibie commaditics far which supply and
demand meet at price equilibria, Somehow: they came. Dogs bark, cats dimb, pengle
imate. Tm with Menger ard fevares am the marginalists and human satire, but
wilh astetisks there too, There is plenty lel for bistoricists and instilutionalists lo
help explain.
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Vocabulary and Catechism
The words microeconomics and macroeconomics, by the way, didn't exist until
Ragnar Iirisch coined them in the 19205. We nse terms retrospectively to describe
old arguments in language familiar now: That segues into the next steps in the
foundations. What should he the basic vocabulary and catechism, caning haste
Jogi, in terms understiod Uday?
Consideration of purpase alueays comes first. The purpase of eronomics is
prediction, We happen Lo knaw thi vue of the most powerful predictors of
economic behavior is maximization of risk-udjusted celurn. This was Robert
Turgot's insight of 1766, although he left the risk variable unsaid. (His real first
name was somehow Anne, 50 we'll go with the second). He wrote that return
equilibrates across markets as investors leave low-return businesses to crowd into
higher-retuem ones. The shift bids up capital denominators in the higher-retarm
husinesses, and conversely, until return converges. It was David Ricardo, in 1817
who arided thal the wnvergence is mare exactly fin businesses judged equal in risk.
The evidenue is everywhere we look. {all this the masimand rile: al belaior
‘maximizes pecceived risk-adjusted rate of return. Tl show its proof below. Tht
means all behavior in all markets, and markels ure where any choice among
alternatives is made. Return means ratio of (net) output to capital generatiug it.
“Then the vocbulary winted might as well include capital and output
Buz what is capital? Economics is choices, and the measure is price or value. Price
can't he measured exactly outside literal markets, which is why cconomists follow
those markets, but is measured in principle by what we give up fn exchange. The
price: Fay capital, even human capital, is given by the present value rile as time:
discounted cash flow. Then cash flow an ils positive and negative campanents
belong 1a the basic vorabulary, while the present value and magimiand rules both
Delong ir the: catechism. Outpul is latal return, sa the tatal return tris belongs in
the catechism lo.
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What other basic terms do we need? Cash flow at the collective scale, where
wansters cancel internally, and there is no source of invesnent from outside,
simplifies to exhaust of value in taste satisaction. There is no negative component
because there is no external source of new investment. Tradition through mast of
economic history has called this exhaust consumption. Schultz recognized some:
carsumption as ivestient in hurmars capital, [said earlier, and limited Uv: exhanst
10 "pure consumption’. | will usc this and the term “exhaust” interchangeably. Then
transfer, consumption, exhaustand pure cars mplion belng in the vocabulary lao.
So dues "invested consumption”, my restatement of Schull’ “pure investment” in
human capital.
his seems to be the right track. The object is prediction of behavior. The maximand
rule predicts all behavior, and {have sought to build a vocabulary and catechis to
clavify its terms. The right vocabulary, thank gash, is mastly the one we have all used
since Ada Smith or even Petty. It has needed anly a little tweaking and
clarification, a to tne: tw kinds of capital am cansumption for example
There is a fundamental] theorem” of calculus showing hove differentials and
integrals (i logetlier, 1s proof takes a lot of thought. There is a simpler one for
algebra. Might a fundamental theorem of economics be helpful? Obvious candidates
would include the maximiand rule predicting ll behavior, he total return truism
explaining the output numerator of the masimand {rate of return}, and the present
value rule explaining the capital denominator. lor years I chose the maximand rule
asthe fundamental theorem. Then | preferred the present value rule as more
fundamental sie It explained the denominator. But sa would he the total return
teusin in explaining the rumerator, Naw [apt for the judgment of Parts. Let the:
thre Logether be the Fundamental theorems of econpimics. The msi mand rule is
the centerpiece, aod he other wo define its terms, All three logether are much
easier Lo fallaw, merc fully, then the ane of calculus,
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The votbulary tin also include the standard distinclion among stocks, flows and
rates, These are only definitions, not assumptions. Stocks means value measured in
money units, say dollars. This is not the same as stock in the sense of equity
securities, although those can be examples. IOVS means processes Such as output
for consumption measured in dallas per unit time. Flaws are to stacks as verbs to
uns. Percent rates are Mos divided hy sticks, as rate: of renin ar grawth rate,
anil are measured in pure numbers over ime such as 5% per year.
Maw for the andamenta theres, Take Ue present value rule rst. starts from
he stom hal ee satisfy convergent tastes in the light of convergent predictions. In
simple case, we foresee sal an asset (stock) is likely Lo yield a cerlain amount of
taste satisfaction flow a a certain future time. We discount that expected mount at
atime preference or time discount rate given by our taste for impatience, tempered
by our taste for risk avoidance, to find its present value. Present value of the whole
asset is the sum af present values af all the expected future satisfactions together.
4 more gonaral case allows far transfers. The future events we forasce and iistount
are no always exhaust in laste satisfaction by purselves al the lime. Some might be
foreseen liuidalions Lo reinvest in other assels or Lo give away so (hat we or (he
donee can realize Le taste satisfaction later, Either reinvestment or gif is called
transfer. | call it "transfer out’, meaning out from the generating asset. Then
transfer out = reinvestment + gift. 3.1)
“there can also be transter in. Sometimes future realizations, in taste satisfaction or
twansfer out, are not explainicd as production by the assetas itis now. The asset
might grows later by news nvestinent from outside, and the investment in hotwoen
might help wcplain the later yield. I an eight-grader is destined la becarnw # ator,
Tor example, ber (oreseen earnings s i doctor will presuppose investment in high
schaal and college anid med schoal in between
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The expected future flow we discount 1 present value, lowing for transfers 100. is
extiaust plus transfer out less transfer in. [his net diffecence is called cash flow. That
5,
cash flow = cxhaust + transfer put - transfer in. @2)
Thal's the gic behind the present value rule interpreting capital as discounted cash
flow.
Tunman cash fs may not be define in those words ang where hut in this book. But
the flow discounted Lo find human capital is understood everywhere, | think, 4s pay
Jess what Schultz called pure investment and | call invested consumption. |
defended this idea in my analogy between human capital and the firm. Thus |
endorse the tradition that human capital is pay less invested consumption
discounted to present value. Thats,
human cash flow = pay - invested sonsumpLion.
I tarns pul that this is nat logical certitude. or an inference from axioms dlreatly
sven, and so iLs not siriclly part of he foundations. will defend it in later
chapters.
The great convenience of the present value rule and its application to buman capital
5 that it allows the factors to be added asa dollar sum. That helps iu understanding
the total retura rule
That rule begins with the Luli that growth of anything is internal creation plus
Mow passed in less Mow passed aut. That shows as
growth = creation 1 ow passed vl ow passed in 33)
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Algebra now allows
creation = growth + flow passed out - flow passed in, {3:30
since terms can change sides if they reverse signs.
Ticonamics is interested in creation and growth of value. Value in the stock sense
means capital in general, Most ccanaumists mast of the tne vse the word to mean
only th: “physical capital” we bug and sell. But Une truism works far anything. |
sometimes prefer tne generality of “value”, mesniog any amount of any mix of
‘human and physical capital, This agin can be called either “total capital” or value
interchangeably.
Flow of value passed out is exhaust plus transfer out. and How passed in is transfer
in. Creation of value is output in the net sense. Then (3.2) and (3.32) give the total
retum rle
autput= grawth 1 cash Mow. 33m)
“Income” means rights to output, and is implicily equal o output, Like most writers
in economics, | will use these words more of less interchangeably too.
Now comes the centerpiece. A good starting point is the present valu rule. We
asscunble value or total capital to satisfy foreseen tastes, But we also satisfy current
tastes by spending current cash flows. AE the scale of the total capital (valuc} of the
individual, were reinvestment cancels fatermally, cash flow simplifies to exhaust in
taste satisfaction plus gift given less gift received. Then
individual cash flow = ned gill 1 exhaust, [E5)
where nel gift meas gift given less gift received.
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Consider net gift. ts negative component, gift received, is concurrently added either
into total capital growth or into exhaust. Thus it is the contribution to those two
desiderata explained from outside, rather than by the individual's behavior. Net gift
deducts that negative component {gift received) from the positive ane to leave the
part which the individual's behavlar explains Thus individual putput, as the sum af
growth and net gil, is the sum af desiderata realize) by hihaviar. Thal. makes it the
andque hohavioral maximand as a flaw: Divisian by the lndividual’s total capita],
which is her whol means f behavior, gives tal capital rate of return as the rate:
magia
This can be summarized in a slightly different way. Cash flow mexsures the means of
taste satisfaction now. Total capital growth measures gain in means of expected
satistactions, discounted according to our taste tor impatience {time preterence)
tempered by our taste for visi aversion. Outputs their sum. Behavior reveals and
maximizes the taste satisfaction including provision far fature satisfaction
Therefore risk-adjusted output is the Qin maxinand, Capital of both Fictars, a.
rst value, is defied as tie whole means of thal satisfaction, ani implicitly of
behavior. Therefore risk-adjusted return, the ratio of the low masimand lo its
means, is (he re maximand.
What Turgol sid in 1766. in Lis Reflections. was
"5 5001 25 the profits of one employment of money. . increase or
ditninish, capitals turn in that direction. . or withdsaw and turn to other:
cmployments.... Whatever the manner in witch maney is enployed, tes
preduct cannot. increase or diminish without all the ther employments
experiencing a proportionate increase or diminution”
Turgot dil nok allow Tor risk in this quick summary, bul atherwise explained the
mechanics bat teod Lo equalize retuc,
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The rule does not say that risk-adjusted return tends to hold constant over time, To
the contrary. Return equals growth plus cash flow, and my charts show the growth
component as a bucking bronco. The maximand rule says only that risk-adjusted
veturm is always the maximand [ts notalways the same as ime changes
efrcamstances. Proof is fn Turgot's equalization of return at each moment, not fram
one miment 10 the next. That is what we see wherever ve Jink.
There is a spill arth allention. Behavior seldam expresses taste: exactly, We say
ane word when we mean another, We reach for the toffee, and accidentally spill i.
Thal was the poial of ty sion that predictions converge Lo outcomes, as well as lo
one another, only on average. Outcomes ave generally a little better or a little worse
than predicted. There can even be systematic bias vebere all people together seem
overoptimistic or overpessimistic accordingly to circumstances, as shown in the
psychological economics of Hanmeman and Tuersky. ‘The axiom requires that these
Biases offset over scale and time. That saunds plausible, and anyhav males analysis
The meoimand rule would be ridicalous iC terms were defined ina literal market
context only. Markets must be defined as wherever any choice is made, (would be
ridiculous if cash flow were understood to presuppose literal cash, or even the
necessily of some guid pro quo Lo explain motivations. Unceciprocated gift down the
generations drives lineage survival,
All behavior means all behavior. The mise maxioitzes the gravith component in
retumm, the parent or philanthrapist maxinizcs the net gift component, and the
goa-tine Charlie maxinizes exhaust
Have [gone (oo far in this claim? Try to imagine an exception, What kind of bebavior
might nal maximize per ceived risk-adjusted return? What if jump oul the window?
Deliberalely drive my var inlo a tree? Sell a caw for « handful of beans? Maximize «
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pile of nuclear waste in my sale instead of cash and securities? Drive a truck filled
with dynamite into a crowd of unbelievers? Write a book on economics when | have
no credentials? Sing when | have an atrocious voice? All express my tastes. There is
no escape. Behavior reveals taste satisfaction in the broad sense including provision
for Future satistactions.
Tastes, Alms and Ends
Tusually mean the ward “tastes” as objectives whose satisfaction exhausts capital
vale. Ty Ural sige, ao woe just sa, (hes bruisin thal behavior reveals tastes must be
interpreted carefully. We see current Laste satisfaction al meallines, Between meals,
we mostly see buildup of capital Lo satisfy lustes in future. And vee somelimes are
motivated to give capital away, as in raising the generation to succeed us. |
sometimes use the term “aims” to mean the sum of this exhaust plus gitt plus
buildup, Then to say that output realizes growth plus cash How is to say that it
realizes aims. All behavior reveals and maximizes aims explained by ends. This
again puts the maximand rule in a different way.
4s capital af bath Fautors is aur whole means of behavior, and as itis present value
af foreseen laste satisfaction and nothing else, we might first suppose thet laste
satisfaction is our nique final gow. But that oo could mislead. Biology shipes our
tastes, and shapes them to replicate the generations. | treat the biological imperative
she “ends” driving Lestes and ms. Our bwo complementary ends are adult
survival and replication of bots factors for survival of the young, This idea underlies
next generation theory.
What we maximize bs visk-adjusted present value of curren plus foreseen taste
satisfactions by ourselves plus dnces. Current taste satisfaction or exhaust hy
aurselves is caunted at full value, and fareseun ones ars aifded at a lime discount.
Trisfer is part of te mechanics. The exhaust plus growth plus gifl are the ans, in
whatever proportion we ike, and our subliminal deeper nitive of lineage survival
is the ends,
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Subjective Certitude
Tautologies or truisms are logical certitudes. by theee fundamental theorews are
cases in point. The total return truism is a classical example. Since growth is
creation less net outflow, creatian is growth plies et outflow. This gives unqualified
certitude ta the doctrine that output, or creation af value, bs growth of value plus
cash low (nel tf of value).
The ather vo fundamental Users are erties in a subjective sense, Whal they
rect infallibly is intentions, The present value rule must give capital vilue 1s we
see it individually. Only under Ue convergence axioms does il predict observed
market equilibria. The same is true of the maximand rule. This rested on the same
axioms and the one that a population acts to satisfy tastes (in the sense of aims}.
“there are schals of thaught, including Papperians and deconstructionists, which
disapprove of logical certitude on grounds not clcar to me. They are rang. A Tose is
a ruse Nor ar al exams as inane as Ural ane fram Gurtrucl Stein, All of math is
durivwd as logical certitude. Tis proal comes from analysis, not experiment. Proof of
Fermat's last theorem eluded some of the finest minds in he world for bree
centuries uni] Andresy Wiles published the solution in 1995. Philosophy is precisely
a search for hidden truisms or tautologies. Economics is philosophy when it does
the same. The pi rule shows thal (heir inferences cen be startling, Age-wage
profiles are technically illustration, not proof; of the proposition that human
depreciation is expected to be recovered in pay. That follows from definitions and
needs na evidence in proot.
The pay rule Is not wholly Jagieal certitude because Italo prapases that
maintenance consumption is anf recovered in pay. Rather Tague thal from Ue
iological imperative: maintenance is exhausted in satisfying our taste for adull
sarvival. The Fact thal fia can have doublet his since the physiocrats has nothing
10 do with prov. The shock, anyhow, is in he expected recovery of human
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depreciation. This opened a can worms. [| contradicts the Y - C + equation, wal the
related belief that output equals profit plus pay. | will ey to track down some of the
worms, as [ pronuised, and release new ones in the process if] must.
“This baok will continue to hunt for certitude, absolute when possible and subjective
otherwise. IT the canvergence axlans are trusovorthy, behavior will reveal afin
well enpigh.
Output Exhaust
Tilefine autpul as creation of value, and equivalently of capital. Does this overlook
the possibility thal outpul might alsa create laste-salisfying pure consumption
directly, without passing through a capital phase first?
Such a thing is possible in math, but notin economics. Since capital is foreseen
eventual exhaust, exhaust not drown from capital in place wanld be implicitly
foreseen. This is the ip side of the deadweight loss rule. Teanamics is a rationale:
of thiicess, and neglects wnfarseen laste satisfaction as unable Lo influences dices.
Those unforeseen and hence coslless satisfactions are called "free goods”, and
ignored as ouside be economic purview. They why nolignore [ree growth oo?
Growth is roughly foreseen aud factored into choices, for one thing, even if am the
first since Mill to foresee it as free. For another, even unforeseen events ase of
economic interest if they affect means or choices after. Free growth does Costless
satistactions leave no trace,
Note In any case that the tatal rerum truisin (3.2) through (3.3b) does not depend
on this Inference. Thase cquations fiescrlbe: creatian of value, nat necessarily af
capital alane. Gulpul wxhiaust wiht he adie both bo output and W exhaust and
woull dissppeac io their difference.
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Basic Glossary
Juse standard terms whew | an find them, aud coin new ones like “aims” and “ends”
when | can't. But even standard ones are ambiguous. The vocabulary of economics is
not settled. Look up “capital” or “output” ox "cash flow, for example, in any
economic dictianary. It will show ranges of meanings, and appreciably different
anes fram ane dictionary 1a the nest 1 enped by defining as {went along, and would
have had to da the same even If this bank sere meant far ecanomists anly.
Otherwise the ambiguities vould hae ef loapholies
Definitions include:
Aims: Intention lo maximize the sum of current taste
satisfactions plus gift plus groveth in means of future
satisfactions and gift.
Capital Means of aims: husnan plus physical capital; present
value of expected cash flows.
Cash flows: Capital passed aul, in transfer or exhaust, Jess capital
inserted from outside:
Tiuls: Rationale of aims; Wiolgical imperative.
Exhaust Termination of capital in Leste satisfaction.
Flow: Any process measured in capital per uni time.
Human capital; Present value of skill sets; capital whose outside
operating cost is exhausted in taste satisfaction; present
value of pay less invested consumption; present cost of
pastinvested consumption less pay.
Income: Rights to output: qual to output.
Tovested consumption: Transfer into value of human capital.
Masitnand rule: All behavior is maximization of perceived risk-adjusted
output and velar as (ow anil a rate respectively.
Nel lansfer: Trausfer oul less leansfer in.
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Gutput. Creation of wealth, or equivalently of capital of either
factor.
Physical capital Capital whose outside operating cost does not satisfy
tastes.
Presentvalue rule: Capital af either value is expected cash How discounted
at ur thn preference race.
Profit: Output af physical capital.
Pure: cansumglion: Same as exhaust
Rate: Quantity meisured as a (ow over i stock, and
equivalently is a pure number over time,
Stock: Quantity measured in dollars alone. Same as capital,
Tastes: Intentions whose satisfaction terminates capital in
exhaust.
Total return wie (or total
return tvs): Output equals capital growth plus eash flow.
Transfer in: Value inserted fram outside. Same as new nvestment
from aulside
Transfer out: Value passed out and recovered fully in other wssels
eather than exhausted.
Wage: Same as pay.
Work: Output of human capital.
Summary
When [rst thought these foundations through, maybe 23 years ago, [was Just as
happy Lo see hal ney held so lille ariginality. The vocabulary is about the same as
in Adaon Smith, and the three furdaonental theoreons are well accepted. Any
campaser knw Ura, originality shuld be incidental. Our musi: says what we think
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needs saying, It does, that Lends 10 mean ted 1s new 10 Ue current conversation.
It need not be new to the world.
All three fundamental theorems are part of the daily conversation of investors and
finance economists. They are nat much on the screens of micrasconomists and
‘macroceanom ists. There may have heen some originality In spelling aut the implicit
axioms Dehind them, anit in generalizing heim into all capital including human
capital if we trust those axioms:
Cine of the mini-surprises was hat ill appeared in my very first equation. Cash Moy
al the sce of the Lotal capital of the individual, where reinvestment cancels oul,
simplifies to gift and exhaust alone. Obvious in hindsight, but surprising if we have
been taught that economics is all about numero uno. | think itis about adults giving
10 the young to keep the generations turning.
That sets the theme af this baok. 01d [deas wll Ind unfamiliar combinations and
applicatians. Those sre iriginality enough. Mul si many litle stretches of the tried
and rue can be hed bo ack.
Economics needs a special and counterintuitive mindset. The guiding principle is the
analysis of the diamond ring, Economics meaus taking our minds off the physical
substrate. That goes Lo the corners of our eyes, not the focus. Capital is nol people
and things. (tis present value of foreseen cash flows. Output is the ripening of these
foreseen flows with time, and exhaust is the harvest eventually reaped. Economics
takes us through the laoking glass to a place the same but different.
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CHAPTER 4: MILL'S IDEA
Mill's Paragraph
It always seemed obvious to me that growth is free. Survival costs Investment in the
next generation, but grasth costs nothing more. [t seemed to me that novation is
the human specialty, that we pay ts cost every day as the cost of being huan, and
tha growth happerss when genius or dren mstance somehiny gives i action
spent most af mg life assuming that all economists, hut not politicians, thought the
sme, sine Iearned Ural econnmists, fillasving Silas, teach something clase bul
different. So guessed thal Thad hit on something nev.
I hadn't, We read economic history to learn that our ideas are seldom original.
Thomas Malthus, contradicting his friend aud rival David Ricardo, wrote something
ike wy or Mill's fice growth theory in 1620, Chapter 7 of his Principles: says this in
several ways. One cxample is
When we have attained. inivased and steaiy profits, we may then begin lo
accumulate, and ouraccumulation will then be effectual. But if, instead of
saving fram incressed prafils, we save rom diminished expenditure; if, a1 Ue
very lime that supply of commodities compared with the demand for bem,
clearly admonishes us thal the proportion of capilal La revenue is alvely Loo
areal, we 20.00 saving Lo add still futher of our capital, all generd principles
concur in showing that we must of ecessity be aggravatiug instead of
alleviating our distresses.”
John Rac rencwed this theme fn 1834. Book 1, Chapter 10 of his New Principles
includes
“IF an improvement, for instance, in the art of baking bread were ettected, by
which, with half the labor and fuel, cqually sand bread could be praduced, it
wuld uk benefit the bakers exclusively, bul wind be fell sipally per the
whole society. The bakers would have a small additianal profi, the whale
saviety would have bread for the product of somewhat less labor, aod all who
prinsiios of Flic Eom msds with Vist oid veal Sqpiiations
= Stotoment of nme dew Fetnoies ote Subject af Politico Fcanony
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consumed brea, tha i, every member of society, would from (he siune
outlay have somewhat larger returus. The whole series of instruments
owned by the society would be somewhat more productive, and would be
carried to an order of quicker returns.”
the clearest expression, and probably clearest even today, came from Mill in 184.
He put it that output growth can precede and explain capital growth as well as the
reverse. Crediting Rag, he wrote:
Ther rv alher cases in which the Laem saving, with the assaciations usually
belonging o it, does nol exactly Gt (be opection by which capital is
increased. IFit were sald, far instance, hit the only way 1b accelerate (he
increase of capital s by Increase of saving, {he led would probably be
suggested of greater abstinence, and increased privation. But itis obvious
that whatever increases the productive power of labor creates an additional
fund to make savings trom, and enables capital to be enlarged not only
without additional privation, but concurrently vith an increase of personal
consumption. Nevertheless, there is heve an inerease of saving, in the
scientific sense. Though there is mare consumed, there is alsa mare spared.
There is a greater excess of production over consumption. Itis consistent
with carrectness ta call this a greater saving. Though the term Is not
unabjectionable, Uhre is ne ther which is nit liable Lb as great abjudians.
To cansume less than is prauced, is saving: ani that is the process by which
capital is increased: nal necessarily by consuming less, absolutely. We must
mn allows ourselves Lo be so much Une saves of words, as Lo bi rable lo use
the wort saving in this sense, wilbaul being in tanger of forgetting that tb
increase pital Were is another way besides consuming less, namely, lo
produce more.
“the words “accelerate” and “concurrently” show that Mill understood calculus, His
autobiography says that he hadn't really learned it from his father James, sho had
boughs a book and was trying to teach himself and the 13-year old son a the same.
time. The son studied it in his later teens at school in France. He like me was writing
for everyone, and preferred to Keep explicit math off the page. But the quote
reminds us that the only alternative in ccanomics is Implicit math fn sentence form
The paragraph implies the Y = 6 + 1 equation: output equals consumgtion pls
investment. [go a tad farther, starting one chapter ago, by offsetting ny word
equatians from the running text. These shaw equal signs and phis and minus and
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division and multiplication signs, rather than keeping bem inside the parageaph
and writing out such words as “equals” aud “plus. These word equations are
usually easy enough to read. My appendix will cover them and more in notation.
Mill's equation suay be as old as economics, although | haven't found it put explicitly
hefore Keynes wrote itn his General Titenty 1936. 11s nov foundational ta national
accaunts ni maroecaninmics {Ue ark of Balan ng fall emplayment. with pric
stability). showed why 1 agree only IF we add a couple of Imaginary asterisks. We
havi Lo mean folal capital grawth and pure consumplion. Mill and tradition have
meant. physical capital and all consumgtion.
That Jeaves me with something like the heuristic problem of Halliday and Resnick.
They started with Newton as something familiar aud accessible aud common
scusical. will follow suit. 1 will reason as if Mill's cquation were right. My own
argument is exactly the same ise remember the hidden asterisks, That saves us all
the trouble af going through it tice. Chapter 4 well restate tin terns of total
including human cagital just Ln ke sure.
Nisan unsellling argument either way. IL unsellled Solow. Chapter 2 showed why.
Weare probably tore comforiable to think of income is something known which
we can slice into consumption and saving slices as we like. Less of one would mean
that much more of the other, Thal would pul us in chicge. We can always consume
Jess by will power. If less consumption meant more groveth, we could grove at will,
Keynes shaved atherwise by invoking the old paradox of thrift. IF everyone put
Money in vaults instead of consuming, cansumption would go dawn while money
piled up. But the added money would ind ess output ta buy with i, as nothing new
wns created fa campensate far the drop in consumplion. The value of the pile-up
money would vanish in inflation, Saviog would equal investment in (he end because
hth disappeared. The ¥ = C 1 [equation shows the math. Tsay at less
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consumplion C means either more investment | or Jess output Y. I doesn’t say
which happens.
Investment, for Keynes, meant creation of nev productive assets. He was right in
seeing that as the goal. But his analysis leaves too uch outside. What I miss is a
wariable for iivestinent quality. Investinents in new productive assets in 1929 or
2000 yiehled negative: return. Money in vaults i eer.
1 prefiran approach whivh takes our minds off the ultimate goal in new productive
assets. Trop all distinctions between saving and investment. Bither word means
the other, Wha millers is ils intended and realized return, Thal is the missing
quality variable. Notice that | dow't have to specify “risk-adjusted” return because
Keynes and [are describing only at the collective (natioval) scale. Risk of all
investments collectively is average risk. This can be implicit whenever | describe at
the eallective scale.
Weaynes' analysis andl equations appear in his General Theory. ee was mid essing Ue
warld depression. & Une was thal housebwds tla mast saving, while businesses do
‘most investing, Banks collected be saving and made i availble for business to
boreow and inves, But business lacked (he "animal spirits” 1 take such a risk in a
slump. We saw the same story ater 2008, Keynes’ proposal was for government to
do tbe borrowing and investing instead. That's pact of the “liscal policy” | described
in Chapter L. Here we tend to agree. That would explain bis sevse of urgency as to
new productive capital as the most dicect way to put idle plant and workers back to
work.
1 prefer ta suspend judgment an what isa new productive assct and what iit, |
think my way of putting Wings is both simpler and subller Uian Keynes’ although at
sacrifice of bis explicit focus, Saving and investment, in my language, are the same
from the start. The maximand is return. Consumption farvgane will anslate into
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capital growth insofar as rate of return ictully realized matches the current norm,
Less return makes less growth than consumption sacrificed, and more makes more.
But colleetive retur can he: surprise. 00m years and bust years amive unforeseen.
“The cast of investment in consumption given up, whether individually or collectively,
ever agrees exactly with what It proves to Ie worth at market, Gunnar Myrdal, in
1939, coined he Lerrns ex ante ir the fest and ex post for thee secon. The bucking
tironco describes the ex post picture averall
Ex ante (al cast) ani ex post [al market) investment acer when mackei-real ized
return bolds unchanged. Lower return means thal ex post outcomes fell short of ex
ante cost and expectations. Higher return means the reverse. That gives the context
of Mill's idea. And he clearly jsut talking about growing or declining by random luck.
His prime mover is "whatever increase the productive power of labor.” He knew.
that this meant iovative ideas. Can we dial them in as we like? All he says is that
they ced cast nothing in consumption missed. Then hv ight that war?
Gross and Net Investment
Keynes, accepting the ¥ = 1 + C equation, defined saving $ as gross income less
consumption C. 1 draw the impression that be implicitly defioed output as creation
of economic value. So do, He defined gross investment | as gross output less
consumption. Gross in both cases meant gross of depreciation. He knew tha income.
and output are equal, at all scales, since the fist means tights to the second, and
gave both the symbol ¥ 2s | do. It followed that saving and fovestment ace also
equal. The meaning was that actually realized saving, a distinct from consumption
restraint in hopes af saving. had to he realfzed fn investient This is the hame truth
which [accept but prefer ta rephrase.
Thave traced Keynes’ argument and language on these poiots because 1 thiok itis
ns generally actepied by Keynesian and 2 ati- Keynesian and nea-Keynesian
schools dike. That's why © hiok my own interpretation differs from 4 general
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consensus rather than supports one schoo] over another. | think iis he consensus
view, as well as Keynes’, that his “attempted saving” means gross saving (gross
income less consumption] uot invested in new productive assets, That can be
written os
Keynesian attempted saving - transfer pagments
= Keynesian nel saving = Keyriesian nel investment,
alan scale.
Taccepl Keynes’ definition of lrunsfer payments, snd | recognize be importance of
his distinction of those [rom investment in new productive assets which put idle
plant and workers to work. My interpretation, even so, is that it is better to Jeave
them idle than to put thems to work unproductively. Keynes made his opposite view
crystal-clear with his brilliant tongue-in-cheek parable of money huried in
mineshafts and ide workers hired ta dig itup. lie had a sense of theater as well as a
great mind. And he just might have: beeen right. ful think my way of putting ings
enompsses that possibility. This orineshal scenario works if il somehow
‘maximizes return in the big picture.
Mylanguage differs from Keynes’ in several ways. | prefer Mycdal's ex ante - ex post
dichotomy. published three years after te General Theory, Lo Keynes' equivalent
artempted-realized one. Like Myrdal, and unlike Keynes, 1 apply it to investment as
well as saving, That's why [ reat them as synonymous. And | prefer to recognize
Iman capital explicitly. Keynes surely understood the concept. He was the star
pil of Alfred Marshall's later teaching career, unless he shared that distinction
with his lifelong persanal friend and professional adversary Arthur Pigau, and
Marshal and Pigau both describe human caital in principle. Marshall wrote that he
neglected it ws something outside wha he saw as the main sequence ending wilh
consumption. Keynes could have agree, ar could have mean ta provide far it
implicitly by definiog outpul as investment plus consumption while realizing al
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some consumption is investment in human capital.) said whi think (bis overlooks
{seli-invested work) and what it forgets to exclude {recovered human depreciation).
My 03M veay OF pUTTing things ight strictly need the terms investment or saving
except to translate my ideas into the language we all know. That translation is
essential IN hope to he understand. Iwill first take account of the Fact that Keynes
meant investment snd saving as b> physical capital any, with Tabane or human capital
10 arrive exagenously as an outcome samehaw of consumption. That led to the
¥=14C equation
Quipul - investment + consumplion. [BY]
Gross and net versions of (+.1) meant gross and net of deprociation. Thus
FOSS OUtpUL = grass investment + consumption (4a)
ami
nel oulpul = nel investment + consumption. (41h)
In the General Theary, where (1.L} appears in his Chapter 6, (1.1] i meaus the gross
version unless otherwise specitied. prefer Use opposite, and mea the nel version
2.16) unless otherwise specified.
My ex ante investment corresponds to Keynes” intended saving” through
consumption restraint My “depreciation nvesanent’, or “depreciation plowback”,
means just enaugh ex ont investinent to offset actal eprectation, not hoak
depreciation, of physical capital. 1 assume ral we intuit roughly hos much this is
when 1 say thal oplioum ex ate investment is depreciation plowback. Now let's
cansiter his nal could bi rue.
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Growth Mechunics
Start with simplicity. Imagine a changeless world where people and things replicate
themselves exactly. Chapter 3 showed that in total capital terms including haman
capital, although neither Mill nor Keynes used them, depreciation of bath factors
together, net of teanslors fram one to the other, equals exhaust in taste satisfaction.
“Replacement Investment” ar “depreciation investment. is Just enough ta ten the
generations aver as new (ne) output makes up he los 1 consumptin exactly.
Ideas Told unchanged. That wouldit he tho far from the truth far aur millian years
as ana erecta, vc pur millennia afl as hose sapiens until some 50.000 years aga,
ar our centuries in Ube dark ages after Rane fell. Most of the uw norms we
innovated, although nol all eventually repressed Lo the old ones.
Next imagine growth of everything at a constant rate, Capital, consumption and
outputall grow in constant proportion. Economists now call this “balmced” growth.
Mill had described that possibility in 1844. Balanced growth isn't driven by
camsumption eestrafnt, as consumption never lags. And ft sit driven by
riductivily gain, meaning more pulput per unit capital, since pulput grows no
aster What drives it?
Suppose frst Wat there ace still no new ideas. we are pioneers in a new workl or
empty niche, we might be able to increase numbers of exactly the same thivgs and
skill sets until we reich niche limits. Then whi would pit for capital growth in that
case? Zeno the Eleatic might insist that depreciation investment is never enough
because it chases a moving target. But depreciation moves just as fast. Identical
capital means identical in depreciation rates That means the ratio of depreciation
{pure consumption) to capital. The two racers hold neck and neck indefinitely.
Depreciation Investment is still cnwgh, Just as it was in the grawthlessness before.
To alarical growth, as in standing sl, it is Une only need far af capita) replacement.
Nave comes a taugher problesm. Niches in the eal world are typically more ar less
full Vere old ies alone can't bring growth, David Ricardo, Thos Malthus and
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Edward West had written in 1816 thi in economies ready developed, there isn't
‘much room for more capital of the same kind. Its productivity disappears in capital
glut and diminisbiog returns. There could still be growth when some of the neve
ideas would need only redeployment of existing Kinds of capital, as in relocating
Iroduction nearer to the market or cutting out the middleman. This redeployment
was Solaw?s "discihindicd growth.” But growth alter that have: to come from capital
my ir irl Trighasses ight ave Lo give plac Ly packet watches, or sailing ships
0 steamships. Those were Salow’s “embodied” growth.
The apparent prablem here is tat novelty is expensive, There are blind leys and
failure rates and learning curves hl rote replivalion avoids. This is rue somewhat
even in disembodied growth, where redeployment is already a step into the
unfamiliar, if depreciation investment is barely enough for balanced growth without
new ideas, how can italso pay for the failure rates and learning curves?
A tough question. And Mill was pasing an even tougher onc. The paragraph quoted
is clearly describing capital acceleration. Capital us he describes iLis nol andy
innovating vonsistently as it kewps up with cansumption, bul picking up the pace,
worl sill Laking the innovation costs in stride. Ts that too much even for Achilles?
Jtis uot, Charts aud tables show that the kind of growth Mill describes has proved
the only Kind in every country and period where tests ae practical. IUhas proved
the only Kind whether capital was growing faster or shrinking faster or anything
between. The growsh bronco bucks, and the consumption rider stays on. Thisis
what clearly happens, or anyhaw has happened so tar, despite So many reasons to
think ft is Inpossible. What would explain it?
First Lake the lesser pure, Balanced grant, where capital, autpul and
consumption all grow a the same constant rate, must make do with depreciation
investment. Haw can itin crowded niches where growth campels the cuss of
inaovation? Chiapter 2 showed my inference Ural these are the casts of beiog human.
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We were paying hem as hamo hails wo million years ago, The cost weal wp, bul
the value of innovation just as touch, when homo erectus arrived a lite later. Hoth
rose again with the emergence of Ancestral Eve 200,008 years ago. Adaptation is the
human specialty. Its What gets us through the day. Innovation is adaptation that
happens to become new norms. It started leaving a record of embodied growth
abut 50,000 years age. That doubled pace ahout 400 years aga. The casts oF being
human are the sume Failure mbes and learning curves whether Ue payafTin
adaptatian/ innovation cans faster gain In good times or slawer decline in bad
anes. We rn al a stady stroke, ail gain against the shoreline shen au new ideas
ave particularly good ones and the current is right,
My idea, whether or not Mill's, is that these costs might be about the same for
breakthroughs or meta-ideas or paradigm shitts as for modest upgrades, or even for
holding even in a world of daily surprises. Ideas trade in an incfficient market. Cost
dissociated from value, and cause is desynchranized from effect, by the vagaries of
genius and the whim of circumstance.
Naw the Loughe: puzzle. Tas ean cansunplian keep up with capilal even in
accelerations? That's what Mill described, and Lal's wha happens. Can Achilles
catch he Lortoise even when (be tortoise speeds up? Mul yous money on Achilles.
Here itis Gunnar Myradal to the cescue. The appareat problem is that ex ante:
depreciation investment is never enough in acceleration. Bul the chiels snd tables
show unanswerably that ex post depreciation investment is. We sow the fst, but
reap the second. Plowback of depreciation investment is up to us. Growth is
whatever is added by genius or happenstance. The difference hetween market value
and cost is sametlings luck, which neither Inses nar gas in the long run, but
sometimes imagination. Mother Natur and Gunnar Myrdal simultancously say
“Shazam”, and convert nev: ideas inl embodied or fisemborlied gross th withont
surcharge for the novelly.
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That still leaves he mystecy only Lf solved. How exogenous (sourced (rom
outside) are the genius and happenstance? Can we coax them along by policy? That
ssn't really my field. What seems reasonably clear is that groveth flourishes in
secular tree arkets with solid infrastructure and rule of lw. How to get those
things is the problem. {will suggest that the answers, whatever they are, will be
developed outside the usual marginalist perspective af supply and demand
The Free Growth Equations
Naw back ta Mills argument. Notice frst thal he pul ital in the present tense.
Modern growh economists biave prefered shat called the Tagged lows method:
spikes in investment are compared Lo later ones in ouput. Mill here is substituting
what called a concurrent rates method: he compares changes in consumption rite
to changes in capital growth rate at the same time. He writes that “whatever
increases the productive poveer ot labor ... enables capital to be enlarged ...
concurrently with an increase of personal consumption
Tels allay that, Mill's raotassumption is the Y = [+ € equation in its nt form
4.10). Put the ex post version a
output - growth + consumption. 1.2)
‘meaning net outpal, growth of physical capital nd ull consumption. The ¥ rule says
the same vith the hidden asterisks after growth and consumption. So it will
continue for the rest of this discussion. {4:2} shows that less consumption implies
more growth, ovless output, or some of oth. Mill was asking which. To show how
to find out, frst arrange (4.2) as
growth = output = consumption, “.24)
again Iecauise terms can change shes if they change signs.
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Milland Keynes and tradition bold (4:2) and (4.26) as logical certitudes which hold
constant over time, ] agree if we imagine the asterisks, Constancy over time would
imply
change in growth = change in output - change in consumption “3
Takes thes Lrvuble Lo flerive: this as a road [avert preferred tn Tllave, Twill reason
Instead fn rates rather than lows. Rates, or ratios of flaws to capital, effectively
cancel cagital from numeralar-and denminator, Thal frees them Lo shiny
comprisun between smaller and rger economies among he eight Test, Mls ide,
or anyhow mine, is that he catia of consumplion lo capital in all (hose counleies can
hold constant, That is what the charts and tables show.
“fo follow that lead, divide (4:20) by capital. This finds
growth _ ouput consumption wn
copital capital capital 2
Thal can be put more compactly as
growl rale = capital productivily - consumption rte, 44)
where rate always means ratio to capital. That needs a caveat because consumption.
Fate ii macro means ratio to output, Capital productivity in this sonse is also called
sate of return.
For more compactness stil, detine
thrift rate = - consumption rate.
allawing (44a) to be restated as
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arovtl rate = capital productivity + thrift rate, {1.0b)
Notice that we must change the sign before "consumption rate” to find theift, Change
dosmward in consumption rate is change upward it thrift rate, and conversely.
Further
change in gros rate = chiang in capital praietivity
~ change in consumplion rate, 745)
by the same logic as with (4.3). Save space again by reexpressing (4.5) as
acceleration = productivity gain + thrift gain, (150)
Finally divide by acceleration to reach
moductivicy gain | _ thrift gai
EW LL 26)
acccleration acceleration
if acueleration is nonzero. Reexpress as
1- free growth index + thrift index, (463)
where indexes arc undefined if acceleration is sero,
think this gets at what bill meant, and anyhow what | mean. We both describe
acceleration 25 well 5 growth. One night think that his "whatever increases the
Iroductive power of labo” is the apposite from my "change in eapital productivity.”
Tt thes are alin the same. Beller mach ins make thef nperatars pore productive
whether sills have changed ar not.
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{2.5) shows something about “balance” or the state where capital, consumption and
output grow at the same rate. It confirms the standard teaching that balance is
possible, although not compelled, when growth rate is constant. Italso shows that
Balance impossible when gravsth vate changes. No ane disputes that capital
roductivity {output capital) aways leads, and consumption ate
Comsnnmption ata) shu lags, in scelurations up and dawn, Output gets the
ad nes Mirstand the goad news frst What the equations leave unspecific Is
where capital itself juins the sequence. That is whal the evidence in the charts and
tables tll us.
In the case where the Iree growth index equals one, for example, the above
equations show
thrift gait
tori inden - —SIUED__ gyi
Scceleration
~ change in consumption rate
thrift gain = CREME i Grows Fate -0, and
chioge in consumption rae = 0, or equivalently
; consuoption 4
Jr———— = ota 47
” capital o i]
iF acceleration is non-zero. (The reason for that qualifier s thal zero acceleration
‘means zero change in growth rate, and division by zero is a no-no)
In the apposite cose where the thrift index is one, the same equations wuld shot
{ree growth index « POGUE gan _ changeimproductityrate
acceleration change ingrowth
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implying
output -
ductivity rate = SE = constant, a,
productivity rate = ES = constant {a.70)
assumingagain that acceleration is nonzera.
This shins Tow ta fim the: position of capital in the sequence led hy sulput, and
how Lo test between res growth and Uri theories, The macket-valued capita
denominator in {1.7) and (74), and the consumption numeralor in (47), can be
taken directly fram national accounts data collected at Une Pikelly-Zuoman website,
The oulpul numerator in (4.74) can be constructed as consumption plus current
change in markel-valued capital. By (4.7), free growth theory (Mills idea) predicts a
roughly constant consumption,capital ratio, even in accelerations and decelerations
and reversals. Then capital acceleration would lag alongside consumption
acceleration while output led alone. Thrift theory males the oppasite prediction of a
roughly constant autput/ capital ratio, sa that output and capital would lead
together while consumptin lagged ale. There is no need 1a measure ani Lest bath
indexes, as el her is leflned ws ne ess the ather. My tharts and tables track the five
avo index. They confieun [ree growth theory in all counleies and periods.
Defining Free Growth and Thrift
14.2) through (47a) defined the free grove and thrift indexes, but not free growth
or thrift themselves as Haws. Since | will use those terms often, [d better clear that
up now. Define
free acceleration = productivity gain = gain in rate of return, and
thrift acceleration = thrift gain = drop in cash Naw rate,
50 that those sets of terns hecome interchangeable. Then (43a) can be put as
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acceleration — free acceleration + thrift acceleration. 1.55)
Rates are Hows divided by capital expressing them. Then define the two Hows as
tree growth = capital free acecleratian, and (49)
thrill = capital = thrill acueleration, giving (49)
growth = free growth + thrill @10)
These equations apply equally in continuous or discrete-period time. Tn the latter,
they leave Use periods of acceleration and growlh unspecified. Marginal or vurrenl
free growth, as with the speed of a car, is the sum of free accelerations since some
past origin shen growth was zero. So itis with current thrift. That need not place
the origin with Ancestral Eve. Surprising as it might secm in the growth age, zero
Joints appear to recur every few minutes ot the longest. Online stock inde numbers
veverse direction at lcast that alten. They ass through zee each time. Debt claims
on the carparalss seetar figure fa In less volatile, bul equity (stack) wes outweigh
then. Then marginal free growlh means accumulate free acceleration, or rise in
sate of return, since the last zero growth point no more than a few mioules 450
when return aod cash low were equal. Growth is (ree whenever cash lave rate rises
or holds steady.
‘The Charts and Tables
Mill Jacked data to test whether growth tends to lead with output when it changes,
or to lag with consumption, or something else. So did all economists until national
accaunts began reporting market-valued capital i 1996 or so, and recanstructing ft
Nackvard aver a fow decades hefore. The equations tirmugh (4.7) show how 1a test
room data in Lhe Piketty-Zucmian and Global Financial Dita websites.
First dowsndaled the Piketty-Zucran tata far market-velued capital and
consumption for all countriesand pears. chose reir “private weallh data for the
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former, | neglected “government wealih” net of national debl, which is small and
often negative, as { don't feel that understand it well enough. ( took consumption as
the sum of personal consumption expenditure (PCE and government consumption
expenditure (GCF). 1 also downloaded real stock market rates of growth, dividends
and return fram the Global Finenciol Dota website for the same years and countries.
early change i capital in wach country gave wach year's capital grawth as a law. 1
added this to cansunptian to give what | call market-valued autpot | sald earlier
thal Pikelly andl Zucnan shin logically have done te same. This gave the values
for (4.1) sad (4.14).
I then divided by year-end capital to give values for 1.3}. | next found annual
changes in those three to give acceleration, productivity gain and thrift gain as
shown in (4.5) and (4.5), and divided by acceleration to find the two indexes of
{4.6) and [4.6a).
The test frm Glabof Fiaoneiol Dota Wak fewer steps. Stock marked growth rate, rate
aftr and dividend rte werw downloaied directly Took tein as carraspanding
respectively Lo growl cate, capital productivity aod consumption ate in (3.34).1
found their anual changes (o find values for (3.44), and again divided by
acceleration to reach (33a).
This alloves tests of Mill's idea from national accounts data for all eight nations
reported at the Piketty-Lucman website, and over their entire reporting periods
through 2010. (he website also reports for Spain, hut only since 1993 and without
data for consumption.) In cach year, for cach country, change fn capital growth vate
Is campared ta change In cansum pian rate (consumption capital). 1 consumption
rae rans fester Uhan cagital grow h rate ihile huh grove, or declines faster if bath
decline, the free grovell index in hat year is greater Un one, f they change al the
same pale in the sam direction it is one exactly. TT both change in the same direction,
but consumplion changes less, the [ree growth index is between zero and ove. If
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either grows while be other declines, the index is zero or less; zero if one grew as
‘much as the other declined, and less if the change in capital growth rate was Luger
than the opposite one in consumption rate.
Interpreting the Charts and Tables
Naw Ingk again at the charts captioned “free growth Index” inthe append, {wil
sammmarize ther anil all other charts al Gables anly briefly here, anid save mast
description for there. They cover all eight countries. Bach chart cavering free growth
tracks three separate versions of the free growth index labeled @(X). v(K, ) and
ISM). The one J have discussed so far is o{K}. o{K_) is a version including human
capital, and g(Sh1)is taken from stock markets only. §(K, } will be explained fo the
net chapter.
The powerful spikes bath up and avn in Une free growth charts were described in
Chispter 2. Spikes tel to he explained by Une fact that acceleration, the denaminator
in both the free growth and the (rift index, is occasionally close Lo zero, Near zero
denominators, whether above zero or below, can magnify tnismeasurements. Some
charts report the free grovth index: every year, and show all the spikes, Others Alter
out years where denominators fall below a chosen threshold, and spikes disappear
accordingly. Uilteation is unbiascd in that fre growth index is corrected down as
alten as up.
What junias aut From all tase charts is that all versions of the [ree growth index p
Muctuste around one. That means that the unshown thrift index Quctuates around
ze70. We just saw that the thrift index vell show as negative whenever the thrift
numerator and acceleration denominator disagree in sign, meaning that thrift gain
coincided with deceleration (negative aceslcratian) ar conversely. Charts and ables
show that thrift gain, meaning drop in consumption rate, calncides as ften with a
Tower as a higher capital growth rate. Growth by tht is a theoretical possibility
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which doesa’ actualy happen. The means of growth Mill describes in Ue paragraph
quoted is the only kind that appears in the record.
Evidence from Stock Markets
Market valued capital, reported in national accounts since 1990 or so and
assctnbled at the convenient Piety. Zucman website, fs measured hy a common
staniard in principle. Measurement begins with stock markets. 1 should. The stick
market Is the most exact source af ccananic information that 1 kno. With due
reservations abaut cannivance and "stalk prices,” meaning outdated pries fram
earlier days because Ue stds bas not ade since, ar anyhow nl enough for
confidence, we kaow prelly well what tickets (bik stocks are worlh [rom tick lo
tick.
We vould know better if markets were perfectly efficicut. Proof that they areu't
shows in medium-term autocorrelation or trend. Autocorrelation (in price} is
tendency far markets to he up tamorrow if up today, and dawn IF down. Trend isa
shorter word far the same. Perfect efficiency ought to show a “rand walk where
prices change captures all current news, news caglures reality without optimistic ar
‘pessimistic hiss. und Lomorrow's price direction is as unpredictable as tomorrow's
news. The only exception should be long-term uptrend with productivity gain
through innovation. In this case itis not surprise in the news that brings growth, but
radu gain in present value is a foreseen belter falure is less discounted as iL
draws nearer.
“here is chicanery as well as incficiency. Insiders, raving the legal risks, may take
advantage of outsiders. BULLE not clear to me that insiders are keller to be sellers
than buyers. National accounts follow prices of publicly traded shares collectively,
where same chicaneries should ofTsel thers.
Allowing for all this, T think matical accounts ave wise W accept stick prices as the
best measure of undeying assels. Intangibles such &s patents or mackel advlages
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are factored into share prices because (ey are realities that would be valued as
such by bidders for the assets themselves. It is a mistake, | think, to suppose that
shaves prices would be less volatile if more descriptive of real value underneath.
he existence of trends suggests the opposite. Trends would be expected from
systematic underrcaction ta the news, so that reaction catches up later, while
systematic averreaction aught to be followed hy adjustment in the apposite
direction. This gradual rather than immediate digestion nf the news would fend 1o
smaath out price response. Trends Imply systematic undorreaction, not
overreactinn. Markel evident: shaws something near Wal random walk as a sual
Full, implying neither systematic avarreaction nar systematic underreaction, hut
will some episodes of the Later, Whitt would Use reason be? My fest guess would be
something delaying the mechanics of price reaction when news is pacticularly
surprising Our sense of whee prices should go right now seems not to get them
there until later. Prefect reaction to perfect news ought to mean more price
volatility, nat ess, trom day to day.
Stocks are more volatile hen mast asses because mast ar: "leveraged * Firms may
issue bands, and may barrow shortec-teem from hanks. Fixed interest on tase debt
claims is paid fist, Shareholders gel the rest of et outpul, which itsell fluctuates
aroun expected norms and is sometimes negative. a firm's net profil (ne output}
is one willion dollars one year, and one dollar higher the next, net profit will have
varied only one Len thousandih of a percent. Bul if interest payments take up he
sane million dollars per year, every year, profit left for shareholders will have
grown from nothing to one dollar, ts growth rate will bave been effectively infinite.
IEthe frm cams twa dollars less the year after, it will have to invade capital to pay
the terest, and owners take a one-dollar ass. Again the difference is trivial
percentage-wise La net profi, hut diametric t oquity investors. The more fixed deh,
thw mare surprise and valalility in whatever is Toft for shareholders. The ratio of
debi Lo hal reonainder, called “equity.” is Whe leverage meant, Stock in this security
sense means the sami: as shares ar equity.
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Mowe [11ry to pul this together. Stack prices collectively, meaning all shires al
current prices, is called “market cap.” {Cap is capitalization.) Market cap does not
‘measure tae whole underlying value of the issuers, meaning firms that issued the
stock, since there are debt claims that must be paid off frst. It measures the equity
residue. It measures that imperfectly hecause some incfiiciency and ehicanery are
Tiere to stay. ths more volatile than the debt labs because ts leveraged, hut
roally less volatile, given the phservial reality of Lends sawing smoothed-put
reaction of share prices to news aver Hine, than what wauld be bid for the
underlying assets, including intangibles. subject Lo Une same debi claims tal mist
be aie first,
Mational accounts measure market-valued (physical) capital by beginniog with
‘market cap. They then add the matket value of debt claims on the same issuers,
along with equity and debt claims on the rest of the business sector, and then the
same for the housing sector. The sum is "private wealth Consumer durables such
a5 cars and refrigerators are excluded as oipractical to price. Government wealth
meLaf national wealth is tracked separately, and Lends Li shaw as slight ar negative.
Findling the Free Growth Index far Stok Markets
My concern in (his chapter is (he slock mkel as dala source for testing (ree
arowth theory. Here (4.2) would read total return in place of (net) output, while
rowsth would be in marke cap. Consumption in (4.2) would become dividend yiek!
in the sense net of capital concurrently raised it new stock issues. Ihe Global
Financiol Data website summarizes the history of world stock markets from
inception in about 1706 far LK, about 1800 in 1S, and later clsewhere, A nice
feature af this data source, and most ather sources fox stock and security
perfarmance, is that market values are shown fram the start. This left on ned ta
correct for the inewilable lags in depreciation acounting, which gels the news anly
in purchases or sales.
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Global Finacial Data reports annual rate of return, prowih rate in market cap, and
“imputed dividend rate” as the difference. Dividend rate itself is reported as
something a little different, { made no attempt to getto the bottom of this distinction,
just as | made none 10 allow or editorial bias in the Pikerty-Zueman website. | chose
the imputed version for logical consistency.
This hires infarmation obviates the dan of easing rom (4.2) la (4.3), and
allaws me ta Jump to the latter. "Productivity gain” in (4.5) Is shoply annual change
in reported rate of return, Aceleratian is anual dhange in reported market cap
growth vate, (4.6) defines Ure free growth index as (heir ratio. p(SM), the green
line, tracks it in the charts. It too fluctuates around the number one. Gains in
dividend rate have caimeided as often with gains in market cap grasth Tate as with
drops.
This seems avly expound whl everyane knows. Of course firms are likelier Lo
suse dividends in years of growth, aod cul them ia years of decline. [never claimed
that free groveth theory does more than state the obvious. What is ade obvious by
the daa is that a change in (otal relurn is (be prime mover enabling marked cap and
dividend rate 10 accelerate or decelerate as a pair, What is made obviously wrong
would be a thrift theory casting dividend restraint as the prime mover. Were that so,
‘market cap acceleration would coincide with lower rather than bigher dividend
sates.
This pretty mich completes my evident For frie growth teary. Dhave nol. fun
ather pramising data sources. One is tantalizingly close tw han. There is nat much
reason why corporate bond history is less transparent lo the world than corporate
stock bistory. A qualified expert might reconstruct market caps of both, side by side,
10 show a picture of the whole corporate sector. Surely | am not the only person wha
‘would take interest. What is the history of leverage, and of total return, and its
growth and yield componeuts, to debt and equity claims cap-weighted together?
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It would be nice to test from such a dataset, again starting from (46), to see if free
growth theory holds again. Who knows? Meanwhile, | think, the case is closed. All
growth at very large scales is free unsil proved otherwise.
Where Docs Opinion Stand Now?
What should we make: of this evirtence far free grawth in salinnal accounts and
stack market data? Lawmakers would prabably demand a recount or an
mvestigatinn. Tax lows discourage: consumption and dividends Lo encourage growth.
Yet data show that lower consumption vate coincides s often with lower as higher
capital growh tale for eight nitions over four to fourteen decades, They will show
the sume for dividends when we come 10 that,
Economists would be less surprised. Solow has prepared them for the news. In 1956
and 1957 he showed evidence that most growth is not explained by capita)
accumulation, ar saving traugh consumption resteaint. 11is Nobel prize acceptance
spec fn 1988 includes:
<0 the bigming, (vas quite surprised at the relatively mor part the trode
ascrined 10 capital oration. Five when this was confirmed by Denisin and uhers,
the result seemed Contrary ta comuon sense. The fact that the steady-state rate of
row is dependent of the [aves tia quota was cosy to understand; t orly
required thinking, thesugh the theory. [Lwias harder i feel cortariable with the
conclusion that even in the shorter run increased investment vsauld do very litle for
transitory gee. he transition Lo a higher equilibeiun growth pa seemed
after very litle leverage for policy aimed at promoting investment,
The foreral mode) omitted one mechanism whose absence would dearly bias the
predictions agaist iavestanent. That ts what called "enbodiaent.” the foct that
eh technlogical progress, mayhe most of iL could ind its way into actoal
production only with the use of nev: and different capital equipment, Therefore the
effectiveness of innovation it increasing outpuTvould be paced by the rate of gross
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vestmont. A policy to merease fvestzent would thus lead not only to higher:
capital inteosity, which might aut mater much, but also a taster transfer nl nes
teehnnlngy int actual production, hich wanld. Steady-state growth wuld not he
affected, but iiterediate cn transitions vould, aud those should be observable.
That idea seemed t corcespind Lo comu:on sense, aud it sill does, By 1958 was
able to produce a model that allowed for the erzhodiment effect... If corrman sense
vas eight, the embodiment model should have it the facts better than the earlier
ane BuLiL cid ni Densinn (1985). swhirse judgment | eespect, came to the.
eanclusion that there was no explanatory valle in the anbodimentiden. da nt
Know: if that ud should be described as a paradox, but ros atleast a puzzle.
Edvard Denison was another leading growth economist Solow consulted.
Remember that Salow had defined diseinhodicd grawth ta mean better use of
existing assets, as wher ships carrying coal Ls Newcastle ae inspired reserse the
Business plan. [Lis easy ta see haw disembodied growth could come mare ar Tess for
free. Bul Solow puzzled how embodied growth, which needs “neve and diferent
capital equipment,” could artive without * a policy to increase investment.”
It can for the same reason that Achilles can overtake the tortoise. Solow’s problem, |
think, may have been that news and diferent capital equipment stands to embodied
novelty a5 a new and different chicken laging a nev and different egg, We can see
Ts Uh different capital might. cone rst Urigh saving from cansumptian.
deferment. And ft secs clear that the cmbadied novelty could not. But ane of the
Beauties of calculus is that it alls chicken and egg Lo evolve simu lancously.
Neither navelly precedes the other at the instant of first embodiment.
This lime iL is Newlon od Leibaitz Lo the rescue, long wilh te trusty Gunnar
Myrdal, if] guess right about Solow's misgivings. Since he understands calculus and
Myrdal far better tha | do, [ may guess wrong. So let me try another way. It seems
to me that embodied growth is still disembodied growth at a finer and more basic
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scale. Instead of redeploying finished goods, we recombine raw materials, We aren't
creating something from nothing. And growth is not so free that it needs no cost at
alle still needs depreciation plowback. Net investment would mean any in addition.
he charts and tables, a5 | read them, show steady smoke of deprecation plowback
Paying for all innavation, embodied or disembodied, that capes as best it can with
goad thnes or had.
The steady stroke metaphor, showing how cast (the steady stroke) and grawth
{against the shoreline) vould he desynchronize, explains the passibility of Tree
growih. TL dues not explain why Une record shows no other kind. My best guess as an
explanation would lovk to biology, The biological imperative shapes our lastes and
behaviors for lineage survival in some sense of family or population or species.
Other species crowd their niches. They canuot gain by consumption restraint for the
two excellent reasons that there is no consumption to spare and no niche space it
there were.
Ricard, Malthus anil West all warned against role replication in econamics already
duvwlopel, We must create means Lo make more from Jess. [suspect Ui we are up
against that wall mare or less continually. [novation pushes he wall back when
genius and happenstance are al heir best, und helps us survive the rest of the time,
Jt costs the same either way. Consumption sacrifice is sacrifice to gods who work
theic will Reedless of it.
My implication that we have 1to consumption to spare could mislead. Rather vee
have none safe ta spend. All creatures hold back reserves against agversity.
Feonamies usually carry move capital, jreducing more cansuniption, than they need
Tor awe, Tt bs a vay day fund ta bie dian dawn in lean times anid built back in
lush ones. Many nations inde capital Lo keep up consumption during the warld
wars une world depression between, and reversed course since, Bul we would be
Tools Ly spend iL For return iver Lime when the next crisis might come tam rrow.
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What exacily do | picture as this capital reserve? Is it vodka distilleries thal might be
converted to orange juice plants in a pinch? | don't really know. Human capital itself
is versatile, Some retirees could unretire, and vodka plant workers migat convert
with not much retraining. [will explore seme of this idea later.
arrod's Knife Bdge
Solas neaddassival growth mide] developed from ideas published a decals varlier
hy Roy arrod. Harrod had described a "warranted growth path” given by the pace
of techavlagical innovation. [ie reasoned correctly thal any ford Lo push
investment faster must soon founder in the diminishing returns foreseen by Malthus,
Risirdo and West in 1815. Bul how could we gel investment exaclly right? There
was a critical “knife edge” with ttle margin for error. He was right to stress the
dangers of overinvestment. do the same. But free groveth theory, and the
overwhelming evidence that it i right, bring a new perspective.
What Solos and other ccanomists teach today. judging Frown the textbooks | read. is
more or less Tarrod without the knifis edge. We are taught 1o igure aul the
warrant growth pth, meaning Une rate of fecholagical growth, and then invest
just enough. ex ante, Wo exceed depreciation by (hat margin. Bul my charts and Lables
show thal any investment beyond depreciation recovery is deadweight loss, There is
no ceed to know the warranted growth path because opticum investment is nota.
function of whatever it might be. Depreciation investment captures the whole of
techuological growth, and further juvestment adds to more, (ts money left on the
table. Optimum ex ante fuvestment, at the collective scale, is depreciation
investment. Ex past results will reveal the warranted growth path
What about Underinvestment?
One indication in Une charts an Lables might leave us purzel. Lis easy bo
understand be futility of ex ante investment (consumption restraint) beyond
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depreciation plowback in Light of the diminishing reluras described by Ricardo,
Malthus and West two centuries ago. We might crowed our niche, like other
creatures, and leave neither consumption safe to spare nor room for capital
accumulation before diminishing returns set in. But to litle investment could seem
a tougher challenge. No thrilt at all, meaning nat even depreciation plowback, would
mean no growth atall. Then consumption rate wauld vary versely as capital
acceleration, justas predicted in in iil teary. And underinvestiment, meaning
Mowsback of less than current cost degrectatian, aught to happen aboutas often as
overinvestment If cath year of underinvestment Lend to ithe preslictians of
thrifl theory even a little, free gravih indexes should average something Jess tan
ane io the end. Bul they dou, The index varies, bul averages more han one ss often
asless in every country and period.
“the explanation | suggest is already implied in that insight of tyeo centuries ago. fust
as averinvestment and capita) glut diminish returns, underinvestment and capital
Shortage augment them until supply of capital catches up ta demand. Fen if there:
were na plawbiack al all in some years, higher returns Us capital alreaiy in place
wan help Lake up the slack, There would be rval danger in sustained
underinvestment or overinvestment, The saving grave is in market forces restoring
equilibrium us investors mimic return.
Sumanary
This gives the outline of free growth theory. Ltis my best speculation on how to
‘make sense of the charts and tables. It olloves Mill more or less exactly, and risks
the next step in the hold new direction pointed by Solow.
My prize exhiliis are the charts and tables. Better this bank should shaw them alone,
with an explanation af my Lesting equations and te data spurces, thar all the rest
without them, They could birdly support free growth theory better hia if Mill and 1
nl rigger them. The canseequences are huge. We must gel rid uf the cor orate
double tax ASAP, and raise the corporate lax rate enough lo make he overall
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adjustment revenue-neulral, That shoukl help get both pasties on board, We must
tax capital gains at the same rate as ordinary income. Dividend rates should revert
10 the 4% - 6% range typical over the centuries before the pro-investment policies
Putin place after World War [1. We must do whatever we can to level the
consumption investment playing field
Obvious sualiers are wrth spelling oul. (4.1) and all conseruerces are meant lo
describe atthe calleetive scale, where growth cannot be exphined by transfer, Free
growth Uneary assumes ihepreciation investment, nol sera investment, My charls
onl ables will never be exact, There ace inevitably ecrors wor judgment biases in
the national accounts wd research assembled by Pikelly and Zucman, more adiled
by them, aud more by me. These cautions will apply to later chapters us well,
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CHAPTER 5: BRINGING HUMAN CAPITAL IN
‘Human capital is labor measured as a dollar sum rather than as so uch per hour or
year. (treats pay less juvested consumption as our cash flow, and finds our present
walue (to ourselves) as expected lifetime cash flow discounted by our own time.
reference rates, meaning what we would charge for delay. Measurement in this
way usually finds ftas something near three faurths of al capital. Physical capital,
much beter understand ease iL can be baught and sold as well as hirer, is uly
thevlsible tp of the leeherg, The term human capital itself is touchy because ft ean
suggest hat lik Hiss a price. Trving Fisher used it in quntatian marks in 1898,
aleibuling it fo eacliar sources | haven't found, bub out in his wo great books on the
topic in 19067 and 19077, Wikipedia is mistaken in allribuling the erm to Arthur
Pigou a generation later.
History of the Idea
“The cancept began with Petty in 16641. ie estimated the aggregate pay of English
worlkers, and divided by the discount rate he had modeled in A Treatése af Taves two
yrs ua rliur. Chav not oad Verba Sapienti, hu have: read tea of bis later:
versions of the same argument’,
Petty'’s method wis criticized by William Farr in 18545, also in a paper { haven read.
for neglecting what [ call invested consumption. Farr, if | read the right description
of his argument, was both right and wrovg, Petty was modeling hun capital of
aggregate workers, These were mostly adults, who no longer receive invested
consumption if my mode! is right. That makes his method sound it principle for
‘measuring adult human copital separately. It follows that he underestimated the
Iman capital af England, rather than overestimating ftas Farr clafined, by leaving
! Tie ature of Copii,
ie Rete uf crt,
tic Ariiurest 167) ani 2 mss fifo f he Weaith of Engtaod (164).
© View! Stari.
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out he human capital of children. Bul Faur deserves credit for polnting oul that
human capital in general capitalizes pay less invested consumption.
Keynes’ teacher Alfred Marshall agreed with Fair in 19907, As | read this passage,
Marshall interpreted maintenance consumption as investment. So did i. . Kiker in
1960.1 interpret ftas exhaust i taste satisfaction enabling energy ta carn pay
cancurrently, wahili preserving bub not increasing pay expectations in future,
Tovested consumption would mean addition to human capital concurrently for
expected rralizalinn with interest in higher pay later
Meanwhile economists had developed Ue complementary ides of human capital is
present cost of investment accumulated before. Adam Smith? in 1776 wrote
the acquisition of such talents, by the maintenance of the acquirer during
his education, study, or apprenticeship, always costs a real expense, which is
a capital fixed and realized, as ft were, i his persan.
The conversion of same consumption into Human capital was 4 Favorite Ue of
Frank Knight a generation before Schultz. Only the rest is what Schultz called pure
consumption eliminated from (he economy i sulislying Lustes. Becker added in
1954 that this luvestment must be expected to be recovered with terest, at least
when paid by employers in job training, Schultz had also pointed oul thal buman
capital depreciates, and invests sotne work in itself in the effort of learning to
complement the exterior investment of nurture and schooling, Ben-Porath,
expressing a Schultz-led consensus, added in 1967 that human capital growth is
fnvested consumption {the nurture and schanling) plus seif-invested work less
Tuman deprecation. All these ideas are now accepted everywhere In human capital
studies.
#0 Mistry of humm Gopal 1 earned of Far from Kiker.
ie uit of Horians
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Jacob Mincer seems to have been first in print with the post-war revival of interest
in human capital, in his 1958 paper rederiving Irving Fisher's present value
equation and stressing fob training. Schultz impresses me as the main idea man
among these post-war contributors, lle usually avoided math, unlike the athers, and
is Jrohably the best source For quates in plain Buglish. IMs paper fivestient fn
Hanan Capital, published in 1961, includes:
Much of whit we call conswmpion vanstitules investment in human capital
Direct expenditures on education, bealth and internal migration lo Take advantage
of better job opportunities wre cle examples, Earnings foregone by mature
students allending school and by workers icquiring on-the-job Lraiuing wre equally
clear examples.
This use of leisure time to improve skills and knowledge is widespread... shall
contend that such investment in human capital accounts for most of the impressive
vise in the real carnings per worker.
Measured hy what labar contributes to OUTpUL the productive capacity af human
hings bs now vastly larger han all wher forms of wealth taken gether
hes ere relating income ta age Lrends Lo be steeper far skilled than lor unskilled
persons, Jovestment in vo-tbe-job raining seems a likely explanation.
We can think of three classes of expenditures: expenditures that satisfy humau
preferences and in no way enhance the capabilities under discussion - these
Tepresent pure consumption; expenditures that enhance capabilities and do not
satisfy any preference underlying consumption - these represent pure investment;
and expenditures that ... ave ... partly consumption and partly investment, .
019621 he added:
the investment In human capital can conveniently be dassified in (1) nurturcand
higher education, (2) poststhuol training and learning, (3) preschav) leaning
activities, (4) migration, (3) halt, (6) information, ami {7) investment in children
{papulation]) ...
9 guest in Mn itl wns sani cams sn tion
1 tama pita Pit sos ond Resoares Opportunites
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.. But unlike the wonderful “one-hoss shay,” the productive life of educational
capital typically docs not go to pieces all atouce. It depreciates along the way, it
becomes obsolete, itis altered by changes in retirement and by the state of
coployment ..
As already noted, educational capital, like reproducible physical capital, is subject
10 depreciation and nbsolescence. The established tx Lreathient takes accaunt of
hath depreciation and obsolescence in the case of physical capital, but this
accaunting is nnd extended Lo education capital... In brief, our lax laws... appear bn
he all ut blind fo the Tact that educational capital entrails maintenance and
depreciation, becomes phisolele, and disappears at death...
These excerpls cleily show Shull’ meanings of pure and invested consumption,
and of human deprecation. He says “pure investment” it place of my “invested
consumption”, but 1 prefer to follow tradition by applying “invested” to physical
capital alone. We also see his belief, with which | disagree, that substantial invested
consumption continues after independence and physical maturity. For example, he
writes “Direct expenditures on .. health and internal migration are clear
examples.” interpret these outlays, when applied ta adult workers, as maintenanee
consumption preserving rather than adding skills, and enabling current pay rather
than invested for higher pay later.
Tagree (hat self-invested work “to improve skills und knowledge .. accounts for
‘most of the impressive rise in the real earnings per worker... But | dou't share
Schultz’ view that the "use of leisure time” accounts for much of this improvement,
My years in plans and oilfields and offices have given me an fiapression of some
study hy workers during lelsure tone, but mostly passive accumulation of
experience and insight while Tully at work on the job.
Practical Uses
Orne obvi use of tne human capital dia is to compare the factors (man and
radeable capital} in the sane dimension. Capital anil [shor Gannal be added, is
Pety kai, since capital is measured ir dollars where labor is measured in dollars
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per unit lime. Bul Petty showed that tbe ides of human capital ss discounted cash
flow measured in a money sum allows the factors to be summed together. The
revival of interest at the Chicago school soon inteoduced the term physical capital
for land and man-made things that can be houghtand sold, and total capital for the
sum. Physical capita) is a misnomer in that we are physical too. But | have used it
throughout so that ccanaists can fallow in and general readers can piek uj some
of their ngage.
From the ¥ = C+ 1 Equation to the ¥ Rule
Chapter 2 summarized my argument adjusting the Y= 1 Tequalion lo Ure Y rule.
Chigpler 4 spelled oul We former in (4.1). The ¥ rule made tbe hidden asterisks of
the ¥ - C +1 equation explicit. said in both chapters that the free growth equations
ave the same for both when we allow for the asterisks.
Let's go through the derivation of the ¥ rule again. {4.1) shows
output = investment + cansum pian.
1 genevally mean Une version of bis where ex post net” is understood before both
“output” wad “investment”. | said that this idea is implicit in the Mill quote, and is
probably as old as econotnics. Net output, here or anywhere, means creation of
value, Then he equation would be guaranteed by the truism, at the collective scale,
#f vet investment meant growth of all value existing, meaning total capital, while
consumption meant climination from total capital collectively and nothing clse, But
netex postinvestment os meant throughout this hook, and anywhere in macro,
means growth In physical capital alone. Consumption includes Schultz: vested
consumption transferred inta human capital as well as his pure consumption
eliminated fram tala capital as a whale, Wha the Lruism guarantees is rather
out pul = total growth | pure consumplin, [2]
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al the collective scale ind where "ex post nel” is gain understood before “output.”
{5.1), but not (*.1), guarantees that terms are mutually exclusive and exhaustive.
otal growth means this ex post et investment {growth of physical capital] plus
growth of human eapital. The latter would have puzzled us hefore the contribution
of fien-Parath. Fquation (4) In his 1967 paper, summarizing the first three, shoves
nan grawth = Invested consumption + scll-vested wark
~ human depreciation, “2
using my terms rather than is.
Chapter 6 veill argue that this equation nceds to be clarified. { gave a preview in
Chapter 2, and will update it now. Work is the output of human capital, Output is not
always positive. It is negative whenever growth and cash flow sum to less than zero.
Anegative sum of these two shows unrecovered decapitalition (also called
deadeicight loss). That would include unreeovered human depreciation. If (3.2)
cant all including negative sel invested wark less all ind ding unrecoverd
human depreciation, it would subtract uncecovered human depreciation lice. Then
iL must be corrected either lo
buman growth - invested consumption + positive self-invested work
= human deprecation, 3)
or equivalently
‘human growth = invested consumption + self-invested work
~ recovered bumau depreciation. (3:33)
Itis clear that Ben-Porath meant (5.3), os other ceidence shows that he treated
Iman depreciation as unrecovered. So docs all tradition, mistakenly | believe, with
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the partial exception of Becker, vill generally prefer (5.34). although (he wo are
identical in meaning
Schult’ analysis of consumption found
cansum tion = vested consumption + pure consumption 54)
This plus (5.1) and (5.3) cabin for
autpul= total growth | pure consumption
~ investment + buman growl + pure consumation
= investment = invested consumption + self-imvested work
~ recovered buman depreciation + pure consumption
= investment + invested consumption + self-mvested work
~ recovered buman depreciation + consumption
invested consumption
= investment = consumption + self invested work
recovered human depreciation. i55)
“Fix past net”, as always, should be understood bfore bath “output” and
“investment”.
Chitpter 6 will revisit Wis logit once again, and add a secon way Lo Une same
conclusion.
‘The Growth Equation Under the ¥ Rule
15.1) can be arranged as
Total groveth = QUEUE - pure consumption. (5.12)
asa counterpart ta (4.14), Tatal growth means growth in total capital, My argument
continues asin Chapter 4. Since (4.2) was blind alley. skip 1 {1.3 Thil now
becomes
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Wlalgrowlh _ oulpul pureconsumption Ga
tol capital ~ totalcapital (ob capital © _
which can be written as
total growth rate = total capita) productivity
= pure consumption ate, (5.60)
as with {4.3a). Since (5.64) is always Lue, and nt oaly under acasinnal
circumstances, we also get
change in tal growth rate = change in total capital productivity
~ chunge in pure consumption rte, {5.7}
This parallels the logic of {4.1}. Again save space by reexpressing this as
total acceleration = tatal productivity + total thrift, (570)
wher "otal" mens "af Lota capital”, Now divide by fotal acceleration Lo reach the
counterparts of (45) and {1.50].
Iwill sometimes save space. from now on. by expressing these arguments in he
equations of Chapter 4, as for example in leaving the words “total” and “pure”
smuplicit if the context shows that | mean them.
‘The Slave Pacadox
Say that Phil enslaves Bill Bills maintenance consumption had heen taste-satisfying
pure consumption to Bill when Bill was fice, and so was nat deducted from his pay
to find Hiss gross realize putput as valued by himself. Nut BFS maintenance
camsumption satisfies 10 tastes of Phil. Cash Naw is gross realized output less
owsback from revere less new investment from outside, for either factor, while
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nel output is gross realized oulput less depreciation plus proprietary output. Both
drop by the amount of Bill's maintenance consumption on Uhil's books as a
slaveowner. So then does Bill's present value of that cash flow.
“This noi thought experiment is worth thinking through It shows that even if
slavery were legal and cannon, its market evidence would neither shaw the value
oF armas ca pita ror refute the Fact thal human vapital is inalienable [Lis
nalicnable for the reason, anc other, that our maintenance consumption satisfies
an ae elses Lastees. Phil did not acquire Bill's human caital. fle converted it to
livestock worth much less.
Another useful point is that assets in general tend to be worth more 10 their owners.
his does not contradict the convergence axioms, We buy or build to taste. That
difference is particularly important as fo assets not meant to be traded, such as
productive plant | suspect that this is what the national accounts missed in
adjusting depreciation.
Maintenance Learning
Ben-Poralh argued, persuasively [ believe, thal both kinds of invesiment in human
capilal must end when not enough ime remains for recovery with interest, Those
two are invested consumption, including schooling, and self-tnvested work. |
Propose thal invested consumption substantially ends al maturity wad.
independence, Self-invested work of learning continues long after, as there remains
no other adequate explanation of age-wage profiles. When does it stop?
Learning fescif continues to the end, Yet if fien-Parath is right, and he is, self-
nested Jearning stops well before. What continues, [hink, is what 1 call
“mainbenanie lesrning. Lis defined as Jearaing bs keep up pay now rather than Lo
eniance pay liter, AL) ages, we oust learn the names and trails of new clients und
coworkers and suppliers anid regulations continually 1a do whal we are paid far.
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This observation helps clarify my hypothesis thal job learning costs no lime (hal
‘might otherwise have been spent earning pay. My deeper meaning is that invested
learning and maintenance learning are the same process costing the same time bur
with different ceonamic ctiect, Iouch as with invested and maintenance
consumption.
Tiddence tal hourly if rab yearly pay rises until retirement, br very near, would
refute Ben-Porath's claiin If human capital ended at retirement. Bot it continues
thevugh relivement hcause imputed pry does.
Milland 4 few economists before him acknowledged “productive” and.
“unproductive” consumption. The productive kind wis what | call maintenance and
invested consumption. Unproductive consumption meant any written invested for
higher pay later nor supporting survival pay now. That veould give
JUTE CaRSUMPON = MAMEENaN CE camSUMpLian + unproductive consumption (38)
an
consumption - invested consumplion + pure consumplion
= invested consumption + maintenance consumption
+ unproductive consumption. (5)
Investment and maintenance consrast in human capital as it a firm, Investment is
valued only in the expectation of future maintenance. No maintenance later, no
value now, To COUNT MATNECNANES 25 New Investment ould count par of the ald
Investment twice. Where the accounting treatments differ bs in disposition.
Maintenance in the hrm is recovered in pay and products. Thought before that the
sume was true of human capital, Thanks (b the parable of the boss wot her secretary,
Trane [think i is haustend in satisfying aur taste for linkage survival.
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Restating the Three Fourths Rule
Petty, neglecting human capital of children, measured total capita] as about 25
times physical capital in 1664, Most estimates since have run higher. { myself model
4:1 075005 0 Pastapproximation. The ratio of human to physical capital might hold
to some such lasting norm for the same reason that number of shepherds should
Todd fn proportion ta number of sheep. They own as many as they can manage.
Mirman capital means vi af skills, including skills i acquiring and employing
hysical capital. IF the valu of physical capital changes, so should the value of its
management. There is truth behind the old doting Wit a rise in Uy productivity of
Tabor explains growth in value of physical capital, Bul old skills can ulsa be mare in
demand when inprovements in physical capital productivity can gel more good oul
of them. Drivers are worth more when there is more valuable freight to be trucked.
Arise in either kind of capital tends to vite a vise in the other.
“The Yatia oF pure to invested consumption is unsettled in human capital studies. |
Just shaved why 1 think Schultz gave the right chuc in 1961 when he defined
invested consumption as an outlay Lo be recaveered with interest in consumption
aver the future, nd pure consumption as an outlay bringing taste satisfaction now,
Wis the sume distinction as with investment and operating expense in the firm. A
profession's meals and doctor bills, and even his subscription Lo trade journals, are
expenses needed to keep his earning power intact rather than Investment to raise it
over the future, seems to me ial once we are physically mature, the only avenues
of investment in skill building, not exhuiast in skill maintenance, are self-iovested
work and fob training or other adult education.
And | argued that there is probably nat much adult education. Only a few go hack to
schoal. From what I've seen, job raining is concentrated fn aur first fess months.
when schanling is over and full-time wick begins. That's why T think tat the rise of
pay wilh age, implying a rise in skills mirketed, is expluined more or less entirely by
selFinvestead wark in the mainly sublimin accumulation of job experience, (Wark
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means the output of human capital. id notbing in (be definition of output implies
effort or even awareness.)
Iagree with Ben-Porath that all consumption and all work should be modeled as
sell-invested until independence and all-time job entry, given that madels must
Spy. But] just showed why [model all cansunption after, ar anyhas after a few
months of job raining, as Sehulls? gure Kind. Were [would Gaull. Miner and his pupil
Becker, but nat Schultz ar Ben-Porath, far tao much focus on the patential of Jab
training. I erxisbs and is ervicial. Rubi is so small a fraction of invested consumplion,
udging from my experience, that prefer to neglect it in madeling, Job learning,
conversely, seems Lo expliin all rise in pay with age.
Biology might predict the same. Nature's plan is that we first develop and then
reproduce. Some creatures follow shavply-defined somatic and reproductive phases
showing iest ony development and then auly reproduction. A mature butterty
dics nat cat. It may even lose mouth parts. Its tine fs spent 4 reproduction alone.
Other creatures including us Hike eating Loo, bul ra bur gives them hat Liste for the:
sakes of ie pow behind. Adult consumption, s [see i, is more ar Tess all purs
cansumplion exhausted from totel capital in salisfying our taste for life and energy.
Consumption by the young is invested because that is he big idea. Nature's plan is
reproduction to maturity.
Now suppose for simplicity that consumption is age-independent. Nobelists Milton
Friedman and Fanco Modigliani, mentioned earlier for their opposite reactions to
my banking idea, separately argued something like that in the 19505 for adults. My
extension backward to birth seems defensfble whe we remember to include
unpaid parental care: and then schinoling In invested consumption. Lmadel human
capital as continuing aller retirement as present value af implicit pay by ourselves
aul others for caring for ourselves and those others, Then if adulthood runs from
ages 20 16 80, Use simglilying assumptians vend give pure wonsumplion as three
fourths ofall consumption,
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Jalso modeled human capital as three fourths of tote] capital. My tag for the two
ideas together was the “three fourths rule.” The agreement of the two ratios as
modeled is a convenient coincidence. If they differed, this baok would have to bea
few sentences longer. Fach is first-order approximation any.
The Free Growth Index for Tata Capital
Given the three fiurths rule, the free growth Index for total capital is derived by
reaning "pure and “total” before the works cansumgtian and caital in the
equations of Chapter 4.
Mow back to the charts and tables. Ihe free growth index for total capital is tracked
in the ved line and labeled Ke). it too Huctuates around oue in each country, but in
uch rr rower cane than dies Ue Blue line {K). The: reson is Ue hres
Jousths rule, The thrill index, not shown in the clans id (ables, is one minus be
free growth index. ltis derived in Chapter 4 3s thrift rate over acceleration, where
thrift rate is change in consumption/capital ratio times minus one, by the three
fourths rule, where pure consumption is three tourths of all consumption while total
capital is four times physical capital, the pure consumption total capital ratio is only
3/16 (3/4 divided hy 4) the size af the consumption physical capital vatia. The
yearly changes in these ralins reflected in Lhe numerator of the theif inde will hald
fo the same proportion, The denominator is scoelerstion, whic is always (he same
for physical as tolal capilal by (he assumption thal they hold in 1:1 proportion
throughout. This explains why the unshown theift index, or numerator over
denominator, is automatically 3/16 as large for total as for physical capital, and why
the shown free growth index runs nearer one in consequence.
Ihave just given an idea why it can be worthwhile to brush up the algebra we all
Jearned in high school or before, and to suffer the nuisance of mathematical notation
Ihave made a very simple tush, obvious in hindsight, seem complicated by making
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do with swords alone. Ove less something neacer zero, whether (hal something ((he
thrift index} is positive or negative, is nearer one, The wonderful books of Einstein
{eth knfeld) and Steven Hawkiog, not to mention ¥ill, show that even calculus can
be put that way. My task has been to follow their tough act. But [will now start to
infiltrate notation where | think that that farm of shorthand should help mure then
ithurts.
Summary
The daa Tor Une ree growth indie of tal capital (KU) in the charts and Lables di
not represent a separate test. It is the same test adjusted to the three fourths rule.
‘that was proposed as a convenicnt rulc of thumb. | would have shown a true
Separate fast if lew how. PUrc consumption might hecome separately measurable
some day, but human eapital will nat. The Phil and Bil parable shows that nat even
evidurice rom shave markels would bu an pint. Wma capital has na possible
value lo any but its vriginal aener.
Whether in words or notation, | hope to make the point tht Chapter 4 and the
chitls and lables showing {K)are likely Lo understate the case for Mill, Those
showing q(K,) should be nearer the truth, Physical capital and pure consumption
ave less thin the vehale, My three fourths rule will never be exact because reality
cares litle for the convenience of modelers. Proportions between the kinds of
consumption will not hold exactly constant and will never exactly agree. Hut | don't
think the three fourths rule is so wrong that the real value of p(K,] doesn't run
nearer one than the real value af G(K). (The infiltration begins)
then the data support free growth theory convincingly enough if we trust equation
14.1), as do all macrocconomists as far as | know, and probably move convincingly
when human capital is considered too.
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The cauions a tbe end of Chispter 4 apply even more. My charts and Lables for
BLK, ) repeat the accumulated error and bias of thase for ¢{K), and aid the crue
simplification of the three fourths rule. (5.4) expresses my understanding of what
Ben-Porath means in equation (4) in his 1967 paper, where variables are defined in
his three equations before. If (5.4) doesn't capture his idea faithfully, it ang how
captures wine. 1kesrise ny 5.5) may or may nat do justice to Schultz. Some bot not
all possible interpretations af what he might have meant give (5.5). Again, itis my
helicf whether or no his
What Farr, Marshall and Kiker have shawn, by declucting both invested and
maintenance onswmplion (rom pity (o gel adult cash Dow discounted to preset
value, is human livestock value Lo a skaveowner. [Us very litle. The parable of Phil
and kill argued that Bill's maintenance is expensed on Phil's books, but treated as
net output and positive cash low on Bills. said | can't prove that from axioms and
definitions so tar, and will need the biolagical imperative.
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CHAPTER 6: PARALLELS WITH THE FIRM
My Owa History with These [deas
For sheer shock value, at east to economists, the pay rule and the ¥ rule must count
frst amount the surprises promised, Who would bave thought that human
depreciation is expected to be ecovered in cevenue pay) and product value just as
with plant depreciation? Heresy! Yet nothing is more easily proved. Either the
‘maximand rule or the deadweight lass Tule is enough.
Freee granvh theary and mel generation theory give more scope and policy
implications. Bul the pay and Y rules have plenty of those, aod my be new a the
warld. Mill and Pelly beal me lo Lhe others.
Ihave been arguing the pay and ¥ rules from the time { reversed course from
Quesnay's idea some tive years ago. | will rederive both in new ways at the end of
this chapter. My change of mind was a classical epiphany. 1 had heen resisting the
obviaus for years. [showed haw my parable of the bss and her secretary gate on
track.
My depreciation thenry is a Jesser shock. IU nccnrred fa me over the Christmas
lida this year. 1 contradicts the ralipnal accounts, whose Capital Consumption
Adjustment corrects hook depreciation (rom linear Lo exponentially fling. That
would make depreciation fastest al the start, and progressively less, No one hes
objected because practical experience seems to say the same. If we resell a new car
or house after only a few months of use, we tale a big hi. we resell a new factory,
which would have been atlored to aur unique husiness plan, we take a bigger one.
My counter-argament is that premature resale reflects adverse selcetion. The usual
moti for premature trade is had news and pressire sell, not pressure: from
others bu.
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1 point instead to (be millions who dou't sell. [argue (hal depreciation and
amortization are the same in essence. Loan payments are all interest at the start,
and all amortization at the end, by infecence from the present value rule.
My risk theory is a mini-surprise, I shits focus fiom the risk of the asset to the risk
aversion of the owmer. Another mini-surprise is the feature of my growth truism
Iti OU that deadweight Iss wicans negative unrealized ouput.
Twill revisit these toples fn more depth alter | caver the necessary groundwork fn
comparing the axcauntancy for human capital and the firm.
Assels, Owners and Revenue
Assets means examples of capital of either factor. Their owners are all members of
the reproducing population assumed in the axioms. Each, (rom newborns up, owns
human capital at least, Value and growth and cash flow and output are properties of
capital. Tastes, ais and ends are properties of owners. Human capital reads its
owner's aims, and manages both factors to realize them. Positive cash flow is
outflow Irom assets to pwners, ta exhaust or reinvest ar give away as they like. in
thas twa cases, Ue owner is mediating Lrnsfir aul. She also mediates transfer in
rom reinvestment or gil receive,
“Think of capital as source and present value of foreseen cash flows, Owners are te
foresees, the recipients of positive cash Hows, the exhausters of some in taste
satistaction, the deciders of the time preference rates giving present value, and the
‘mediators of transfer outand transter in (negative cash How). In the case of the
diamond ving, the psyehic positive cash Haw arrived withaut mechanics. The mare
typical ease reaches the same outcame indircetly.
{Net output of an asset is its value added, or ercatian of value. Gutput ein he
realized as outflow Wo ovsners for reinvestment or gifl or exhaust, ar iL can be lef in
as growth. The part let in is proprietary or unrealized ar sellneested autpat.
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Qutllow Lo owners can aso include decapitalization from capital already in place, is
in withdrawals from a bank account, | say decapitization, rather thao depreciation,
because the appropriate term might rather be amortization or depletion or
liquidation in sale, depending on circumstances and the nature of the asset. The sum
ofthe realized output and decapitalization can be called “gross cash tow, meaning
gross hefore deducting plowback and negative cash floss (ransfer in]. Then
gross cash flow = cash flow + plowhacl + transfer in
= realized pulp 1 recovered decapitalization. 1
Here | specify recovered decuptalization because | (real deatweight loss as
decapitalization too. Cash flow as accountants and businessmen use the term
usually means gross of plowback, although net of transter in. My meaning, net of
both, is the one always applied in finding total return and present value.
Althaugh cash flow might be in kind as well, {will follows convention by treating it as
if realized from salc in cash. The pwner can then spend the revenue an exhaust
{pure consumption) or reinvestment or gill as she likes, hut night alsa plove some
ar all back inl ne originating ssset. The genveal principle is
positive cash (ow gross cish flow - plowback, ®2
In simple cases, revenue measures and equals gross cash flow for each asset. Bur
revenue as the term is actwally used is likelier to sum contributions from many
assets and owmers. To kee that usual meaning separate, define this asset's shave as
“earned revenue’. Then
gross cash flo = carned revenue [)
Anather sway Ln pul the same ied is
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revenue - collective gross cis flow — collective ened revenue (64)
fom all contributors to revenue together, Then revenue and carned revenue would
be the same if there are ho other clams.
Earned Revenue and Cash Flow
A classical illustration of revenue generated collaboratively is the firm, The firm
Joe can be interpreted as a single asset of physical capital ts typically many
owners agree fa hire lside management, meaning autsile themselves, Lo contrac,
onl rede on their behalf, The firm through its oranagers hires the other employees,
contracts with suppliers, wad generates & joint product representing all its own
ross cash low plus any contributed parts of gross cash flow of others. The product
5 sold for revenue fn the collective sense. Revenue is first applied to satisty claims
on it by those outside contributors. Claims recovered include current purchases
from suppliers realized in sales. Others ave pay to management and other
employees, along with rent, interest, utilities, other services, and whatever is due to
the tax man. The principle is 1a inclule all witlays by the fem need o secure
reenne naw, ax distinct from autlaps invested for he sake of nore revenue later.
The shiace of revenue due the firm proper is any residue aller all those prior claims
are met. Then
acoss cash low ~ revenue - prior claims ~ earned revenue (65)
gives the connibusion of the firm proper.
Famed revenue mag ov may not be passed to owners. Management is typically
authorized to plow back any part as reinvestinant, say in replenishing inventary ar
cash ain Buying new plan andl equipment. Any reve lefL over aller thal
plowbick is transferred oul lo owners as dividend yield.
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Megidive cash love, or Lrussfer in. aways means new investment added from
outside, Ployback from revenue is excluded, as it i already recognized as a
deduction from positive cash How. kor the frm, the only source of positive cash flow
5 proceeds trom new shars issucd. With this understood,
cash Daw = grass ash lave - plawbaclc~ mansfer in
~ eamed revenue — plasehiack - manster fn
= positive cash low ~ negative cash Naw, (66)
where
‘positive cash (low - earned revenue - plowback, and
negalive cash (low - lransfer in. 67)
Fioms uso the tor gross cealized output to mean the same thing as what call gross
cash flow. A common definition is
gross realized output - realized autpot + depreciation
Naw we come ta the subtle paint allowing for deadweight loss. The total return
ras sh thal oul equerks valu grat plus cash Nave, Then ouput is
negative wherever the sum of growth and cash ow is ess tian zero, Natural
disasters and bad investments can make them so. Those unexpected setbacks are
examples of deadweight loss. amounts to unrecovered depreciation, meaning
depreciation not recoveced (realized) in positive cash flow. ll get back to that soon.
the point at preset is that the equation above really means
gross realized ougpuE = realized ouput + recovered depreciation.
Tere Lao prefer the generality of “decapilalization” over “depreciation”, and define
ross relied output - gross csh flow
= realized auipul 1 rexovered dcapitalizatian
=varned revenue | recovered decapitalizaon. (68)
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The terms gross cash How, earned revenue and gross realized output will be used
interchangeably, “Realized” and “recovered” will likewise be synonymous, as will be
“proprietary”, "unrealized and self-invested”
{AGT} allows
realized output = cash flow + plowback + transfer in
= recavered decapilalizailin. (6.14)
Detine
unrealized output = output - realized output
= growth + cash flow - realized output
=growth plowhack transfer in
+ recovered decapitalization, 69)
hy (6.12) and the total retumm truism
Proprietary Output and Deadwelght Loss
Unrealized or proprietary vr selF-invested oulputof the firm is creation of value nol
vel sold or nol meant to be sold. This can be something as workaday and
perfunctory and automatic as output to inventory. Uther illustrations could be
where «construction firm builds its own offices, or a car manufacturer makes cars
for its executive fleet. (6:9) shows that it includes all growth not explained by
plowback plus transfer i less recovered decapitalization, This implicitly includes all
fee growth, Judging hom my charts and tables, ree growth seems to mean all of
growth at the collective scale. What effect might it have on the firm?
Freee growth includes andar win Fal gain and deaweight loss as ell as the
averal upward tren expressing new ideas, Deadweight 1655 is unrecovereid
dusapitalization, meanirsg not recovered in cash i, Thal makes iL negative output
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she sum of growth and ces flow, ind specifically negative unrealized ouput
Then
deadweight loss = unrceovered decapitalization
= negative output
= negative unrealized output
- max (0. - output]
= max (0, - unrealized output). (6.10)
Also
‘positive uarealized ulpul = mix (0, proprietary output), 6.11)
and
output = unrealized output + realized output. (8:12)
The Growth Truism
Tn general,
growth = capitalization from oulside 1 capital ization (rom inside
~ decapitalization. (6.13)
Here
capitalization from outside - negative cash flow — transfer in, and
capitalization from inside = positive vrealized output + plowback.
Also
decapltalization = recovered decapitalization + unrecavered decapitalization
= recovered decapitalization + deadweight Inss.
Then
growth = iransfer in | positive unrealized vulpul 1 plowbick
- recovered decapitalization - deatweight loss, {61m
ar more simply
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growth = transfer in + positive unrealized output + plowback
- decapitalization. (6.19)
6.144) can also be expressed as
growth = transfer in + unrealized output + plawhack
= recovered decapitalization (6:14)
Far convenivnce, define
gross transfer in = transfer in 1 plowhack,
So thal (6.14) through (5.14) can be pul more compactly as
rowih - gross lransfer in + posilive proprietary output - decapitalizailon
= transfer iu + unrealized output - recovered decapitalization. {6.14¢]
Any of these versions of (5.14) can be called the growth truism. The new term gross
teanster in will help shorten equations tor human capital.
Management as a Quasi-Owner
Qumers (shareholders) typically allaw management wide latitude ta cope with
needs 1 stands in place of owners. Aceminting taritian, and this bok 1a, reasons
ant Ue steps fram revenue Lo dividend yiuld as i managenent fell sere he owner
Qberwise there vould be little Lo say. From the sharehokler viewpoint, revenue is
simply dividend yield
But the bottom line is the same. The maximand is output, or growth plus cash flow.
Positive cash flow, in the sense net of plowback, is dividend yicld on both the i's
Books andl the shareholder's. Negative cash flow on the books af shareholders
Individually is purchase of any shares i the sain firm. On the hoaks of
shareholders collcetively, where sales and purchases of existing shares aMfset, it
shoplifies to purchase of new stack sues alone. This toa Is ust as on the baoks of
the em.
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My purpose in this unalysis of (he firm his been 1o derive equations valid for aay
capital of either factor. The firm is a good model for several reasons, ts accounting
teaditions ave centuries old, and have been well thought through. Itis rich in
possibilisies hecause it has to be. [t must describe firms of many kinds, Jt must allow
for contingencies whether or not they apply. For many simple assets, say the firs
shares as opposed 1 ftself revenue and positive cash flow can be the same, But the
campleaily and versatility of the firm ilself, and the persan-likeness addi by ils
Internal management, wake ita useful model far any and all capital of either Factar.
Not thi [client follow sccountivg tradition closely, ar even to understand it
closely. Tun even less an accountant than so economist. My erms and concepls
ten to be idiosyacratic. The main thing is for the logic 10 hold together.
Human Capital by Analogy to the Firm
tis reasanabic to define pay as the revenue of human capital. Eamed revenue for
the fie Is typieally less than revenue. There ave prior clalins to offset contribution
hy worker and suppliers. The counterpart in human capital, | said in Chapter 2, is
maintenance consumption. T believed for years thal this cast counted as a prior
claim an pay, just as will the Rem. Toy have been Ue only person Lo think so since
Quesnay nd the physiocrats, although Mil and Srala might be interpreted thi way.
Buz who has thought what doesn't matter, Questay's idea is a mathematical
possibility thal must be addressed. 11] get there soon.
Human capital is inalienable, bat means that its decapitalization simplifies to
Iman depreciation. The rms added possibilities of depletion and liquidation
dm'tapply. The output of human capital 5 called wark. Then (6.1) through (6.8).
applied to human capital, give
earned revenue = pay - prior dats
- gross realized work
= realized work 1 recverial human depreciation. (6.15)
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‘The pay rule argues (hal prior claims are zero sad that «ll human depreciation is
expected to be recovered in pay and work products as a norm.
Chapter 2 offered two logical proats of the second point. The alternative to recovery
is deadweight loss. Capital is discounted foreseen cash flav, and cash flaw is
realization in transfer or taste satistactian. Deadsicight loss, or uncalized
depeatialization, is therefars implivitly unforeseen. Winman depreciation, like plant
depreciation, is foreseen from the start. Aging and mortality come as no surprise. It
is therefore: foreseen as realized in pay.
The second proof, stated in part by Becker, follows (rom the miiomnd rule, All
behavior is maximization of perceived risk-adjusted return 10 the individual's total
capital. This follows from definitions, not trom axioms. There are no exceptions
because there are no square circles. The rule says that no one invests in anything
without expected recovery with interest. Recovery means recavery of depreciation
We da invest in human capital, af ourscives and our children, and cansequently
expect recavery of human dupreciation by ourselves or them. [Cs Ural simple.
Glber proofs looked to evidence and experience. [offered he parable of the bass
aod ber secretary. which had been decisive in converting me from Quesnay's view.
Lets go through it once more. Assume that investment in each has ended before the
Just year for each. First take Ue possibility thal neither maintenance consumption
tbe supposed prior claims) nor human depreciation is recovered in pay. Then work
and cash flow for cach have simplified to realized work and pay. Human capital of
cach is remaining pay less the time discount. At the begining of the last year, itis
something less than ane year's pag. If pay incasured work, yetum to cach
{ork human capital) wold be something over 100% per year. It would rise ta
100% per day al the beginning of the last iiay, and 100% per secand at the
beginning of the last second. AL Ue eoi of the last second it reaches infinity. Yel the
otfolin asses of each reve Uneir rales of ime preference (return) as val 2 few
percentage points per year.
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This is enough to rule out the idea that pay recovers neither maintenance nor
depreciation. Does it say which is recovered? It does if we look at the cases of the
boss and her secretary separately. Kach earns the same pay throughout, and the
Doss cars ten times more. By the beginning of the last day, the human capital and
wark of cach Is negligible. Pay bs all depreciation recovery if Tam vight, ar all
miatenance recovery iF Quesiay was right, ar maybe uth, Th biss's ay, anyhin,
remains ten tines higher. Is that because her malntenance Is ten tine more, per
Questia, or hearse her depreciation is?
The answer is easy. | concede thal the higher-paid usually consume more, But nol
always, and anyhow ool in proportion and not becuse they have 1o. [learned in the
quartermaster corps that the consumption needs of the general and the private ave
not much ditfercat. The commanding officer, in the field, is expected to be the last to
eat, the last to sleep and the first up in the morning Maintenance consumption, as
opposed to the rest, Is what we need t keep up strength and vitality and
perfarmance. We can't make fa with Jess, Mare pay is more mative, hu need nd be
spent on more consumplion unless by chaice.
The boss und ber secretary are paid lo apply skills, They are In trouble if the worth
of those skills doesi't cover their maintenance needs. But they wil sap saviugs i i
doesn't. Retisees need no money motive to consume. All hey need is the mes. The
source of skills applied is human capital. The application is gross realized work. The
difference between its human depreciation and realized work components matters
because the maximand is net output (work) rather than gross. But itis nota
ditference in ind. SKI applied is skill applied. Pay is all depreciation at the last
second far the same: reason as with the martgage payment. There is no balance lo
to warm interest.
This argues strongly Ural human depresiation is recovered in literal pay and
transferred bo work products. IU also argues at maintenance is oot, The problem is
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in the exact 10:1 proportion required throughout, Whatever was contributed to pay
by maintenance recovery, on top of depreciation recovery, would have to hold the
same ratio in order for pay to cover both, Experience shows this as alikely in avy
case, let alone all cases. The boss and her secretary probably couldn't hold
‘maintenance consumption to that ratio if they tried
Anather strong argument against he hypothesis af prior cain an pay is lack ofa
source. The claimant would he whaever other than the worker had paid fin the:
maintenance consumption and needed Lo be mare whole. Thus the emplaging firm
wall bold valid claim iit bic provided the maintenance consumption in order (o
enable the work, Thal would pul the Arm in the position of « farmer who must feed
the livestock and must earn enough profit to recoup the cost, We went through this
in the parable of Phil aud Bill. But the employer firm does not advance the cost
because it has no motive to do so. [¢ knows that the worker will pay it anyhow if
means allow. Where incans don't allow, as in retirement without adequate savings,
the warker Inoks t transfer payments from society generally rather than from the
firm alone.
Mow comes tbe evidence of age-wage profiles. This evidence is the substance behind
the parable of (he boss and her secretary. The evidence ts pl, Wage generally
means hourly pay, while *eacuings” means yearly pay. Wage-eamings profiles show
rise with age, bul peaking and reversing as workers reach (bei fifties or so. The
reason is that they tend to work fewer hours, | consider pay per hour a better
‘measure of humat capital than pay per year. JE someone is worth $30 per hour half
time, my impression is that she would be worth S30 per hour full time. IF she prefers
10 stay homie, her leisure must give her that much psychic pay nstead. Psychic pay
cuts justas much fee with in.
My bass and secretary were cases preferring to work full ime. Age-vwitge profiles
hear put the scenario imagined for term. They illustrate the logical certainty thal
human depreciation is expectenl (0 he recovered io pay, and support Ue
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convergence axioms Leading (rom prediction 1o probable outcome. More than thal,
continuance of the 10:1 ratio through the last day tends to contiren that no
‘maintenance consumption is recovered alongside human depreciation. (ft were,
age-wage profiles show that it would have to hold the same 10:1 ratio throughout.
[Exhaust Pay
The present values ane mim Laisa Tin tra al including human
depreciation s expected ta be recovered in pasitive cash fives Positive cash flow Is
transfer out plus exhaust. In Bum capital i is pay Jess plovback, Might same
human depreciation he realize in exhaust? Tthoughtall was when Taso thaught
misialenance consumption wis recovered in pay iad work products. The boss and.
secretary parable turned my thinking round on that. But it doesn't follow that none
5
Some pretty clearly is. argued that cven suicide expresses the maximand rule.
Deliberate scil-malming exists and expresses It again. Just as Citizen Kane destroyed
rs shmwcases because: Ue twas on him, anime destroy thie bares. So long as the
destruction is intended and compos ments, L counts as economic behavior.
Are there sunnier examples? What about voluntary unpaid vacations and voluntary
retirements? What if the boss and her secretary eater convents in mid-career?
‘These choices surrender human capital on the fice of things because they surrender
literal future pay. But the psychic pay of leisure makes up for it. Otherwise we would
have stayed on the fob track.
‘Then some human depreciation is exhaust. Cal the Dsgehic pay for it "exhaust pay”.
sens mercifully sill in the big pletare. {end to neglect it in marcling for that.
reason, fst a vith invested consumption ater full-on ob wnley. Bul | dined
opie certitude 1s Lo expected recovery of human depreciation io pay. Ud better nol
eave Toapholes, There arse none. Some of the pay is psychic, and sami of the Lastes:
satisfied are not prelly.
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Tweaking the Axioms
My last argument reasoned from experience that we need no money motive to
consume, and that pay tends ta cover pur maintenance needs. But that wasn't
strictly in the axioms. 1 assumed a mortal and reproducing population strategizing
To rvs Lo satisfy Gastes, and more generally ams. didnt say aul Jou tat Une
Jopuation in fact survives. Now | do. et’ specif that the papulation has motive
aml means for lineage survival, whether ina group selection ar kin selection sense.
The mens can he specified as skill sets, as ao adult norm, sullicient 1o varn
‘maintenance consumplion needs for themselves and invested consumplion needs
for their young together. As 0 motive, 1 will specify at list that maintenance
consumption is exhausted in satisfying our taste for survival. | already as much as
assumed this in arguing that ve need no money mative to consume,
THIS aSSUMPHON AF Motive and means amaunts t the biological imperative. itis
hardly mes Ln connie. Us the essen af Polly's averlapping genoratians model
al1662 in A Treatise of Taxes [Us the wssence of the equilibrium wage theary af
Senith in 1776 and Ricardo 1817, where pay converges Lo Ube level holding he work
force intact. is he essence of Malthus’ population principle of 1798 and 1801,
chosen by Sewior as his first axiom in his Outline of 1836. [tis the essence of the
productive consumption theory developed (rom balthus through Mill in 1848.
Jt lapsed trom attention with the marginalist revolution beginning with Jevons and
Menger in 1671, ironically the year of publication of Darwin's The Descent of Mon,
because the marginalists treated explanations of tastes as frrelevant. | happen to he
a huge fan of the margioalists. Mt they ve marke thelr point. The micrasconomies
they founded isa rich ard mature science. TL nveds mo assumptions as W what
explains our Lastes. Bul macro is not doing so well. T believe thal it must start over,
anil that. grasp of matives helps.
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Quesnay’s Jeu
What Quesnay wrote, in his entry for “man in Diderot's Encyclopedia of 1750, was
“Those who make manufactured commodities do not produce wealth. shey
spend their receipts in order to obtain their subsistence. Thus they consume
as much as they produce. and no surplus of wealth results ram it.”
Questa, Tike Petty a century before, came Lo economics fram medicine. Me was
personal physician ta Madame de Pompadaur, and then ta the vagal family. is
argument was Liat value is adie in agricul re alone, nat in manu Facies. is
conclusion that only landowners can afford Lo pay tases did nol enchant the landed
acistocracy of Versailles.
Mills éssays- includes
“as much as is necessary to keep the productive worker in perfect health and
fitness for his eraplagiient, may he said to be cansumed productivity. To this
should he adcled what he expends in rearing ehildren to the age at which they
bec: capable of producive industry.”
Mills Prices of 1845, which Tyuoted eae, said the same:
“What they consume in keeping up their health, strength and capicilies of
work, or in rearing the productive laborers to succeed them, is productive
consumption.”
Sratta’s parallel idea is expressed in his 1960 paper Production of Commodities by
Means of Commoditics.
My impression is that, Quesay’s "surplus af wealth” means value added, ani tha hi:
thought maintenance vonsumplion shoull be deducted from revenue in finding it
Mill can't hisve meant shat] think Quesnay did, in view of Mill's evident belief that
output is investment plus consumption. Rather, when [Like Guesnay argued that
1 oy on Soe tnesihd (poston of Poked Feomomp (114171.
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maintenance is recovered in pay work products, | tought Mill and Srafla might have
reasoned partveay there,
My hlief then that human depreciation is exhausted is satistying tastes seemed
defensible then. } argued, sensibly to a point, that getting older meant surviving. |
suppose 1 might still arguc the same but for the parable of the boss and her
secretary.
Anather Look at Depreciation Theory
My pay rules, illustrated in the parable of the bass and her setretary, depends on my
dei thal depreciation nd umorization we the same, Capital means present value
of a typically finite series of forseen cash flows. As each year pisses, present value of
the most distant and most discounted one is lost, Depreciation famortization is that
Toss. It begins at a maximum, and rises steadily as the end point nears.
IHaulted national accaunts tar projecting an opposite trajectory from evidence of
actual sales. 1 suggested a second look at likely circumstances and motivations.
Depreciable assets are mastly steuedures and equipment. They tend to have ben
designed and modified for vrigina users, Original users typically expect Lo own and
aperale ther Lo the end. Then what is the likely driver of exceptions? Are secondary
des of plant and equipment likelier Lo be driven by pressure Lo buy or pressure to
sellz
Human capital, anyhow, is exempt from both pressures. We're struck with what we
have. We can fovest more, as a homeowner might add a pool room, but we cannot
sell. The years Toll by, and present value of the mast distant one’s pay is lost.
Consider what happens when the expected cn point changes. Say that the hos and
er secretary, at Le beginning of what was Lo be Ure Just day, are both persuaded to
re-up for another five years al the same pay. Human capilal of each jumps from
ttle Tess ran ane day's pay to present value of five years’ pay. Bul human
depreciation of ech is sharply reduced! AL be begioning of what seemed the last
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day, it was substantially Lo be the whole of pay. Now it becomes present value of
day's pay five years off,
Another Look at Risk Theory
1niade the paint that the bass and her secretary reveal their time preferences in the
scenrity portfolios they assemble, and discount their pay at the same rate of return
10 evel their human capital. 1s tat Loa simple? Das iL overlook risk, ar athes
factors?
Targued thal human vagital is ie risker sod higher-return factor because its
exceptional versalility makes il as risky as we like, and because itis owned
disproportionately by the risk-tolerant young, Does that make the bosses’ or
secretary's human capital viskier and higher io ceturn than her portfolio assets? It
docs not. She molds all capital to her single risl-preference lovel at her current age.
“This is mot to claim that ages the only determinant. Gender seems to count too, with
‘males usually mare visk-tolerant Bab Trivers tells us why. And there i a wealth
effect. We Lend Lo tolirate more risk shun wealth lees us mare: cushion against
setbacks. Rut each of us, in present circumstances, has just so much tolerance.
Tastes ure properlies of owners, nol of assets. We assemble and modify assets of
both factors Lo suil them, Human capital is nol inberently riskier. [Ls riskier al the
collective scale ouly because it is owned disproportionately by the risk-prone young.
Each cohort, from youngest to oldest, molds it Lo suit tha cohorts chiwactecisic risk
profile, The boss and ber secretary each molds all ber assets of both factors to ber
single visk tolerance at the time.
Tweaking the Life Cycle Model
Tconsider Ben-Porath's lif: cycle made af 1967 the ast fmpartant pager in 20%
century ecanarmics. Lage with all of iL more br less. Kew it needs darificaion and
completion.
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A studies of human capital, as fur os know, effectively (real human depreciation &5
deadweight loss. Ben-Uoraths model seems no exception. How does he model pay?
He multiplies human capital by a productivity factor, and then again by the fraction
‘marketed for pay rather than self-invested. That gives what | call realized work. Pay,
Hf Lam right, measures grass realized work. That is the main amendment | would
Iropose far his model.
Ten-Parati's first three equations summarize what | call the grawth trulsin (6.14).
Tn my Lerms, ant his, he models
‘humn growl = invested consumplion + sell-invested work
- human depreciation.
He means positive selt-invested work in the form of learning Meanwhile the
inalienability of human capital leaves its depreciation as its only avenue of
decapitalization. Javested consumption corresponds to grass transter in as meant in
the growth truism (6.14¢) while self-invested work is the sane as proprictary
output. Then (6.4¢) applied ta human capital could shaw as
‘human growls = invested consumplion 1 positive sel-invested work
- human depreciation,
~ invested conswmpliva + sel -invested work
- recovered human depreciation,
confirming (5.2) and (53a).
Logie also seems to agree with Ben-Porath's incerpretation that self fnvested work
continues lote into careers, and that it PIUSE stop when time for recovery uns out.
Tut [would specily that invested cansumptian stops, far modeling purposes, at fll
fine job entry or a tte later a allow for initial job training,
This needn't follow from my adjusted axioms 11's just an impression from whl [ see.
Tort agree with Schullz that outlays on medicing ar worker relocation ane
investment. [see them as maiolensnce consumption preserving skills, not
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investment building skils, | don't see much avenue for investment in adult bum
capital except through textbooks and tuition. Some happens. | went back to school at
the Conservatory myself, and I buy lots of texcbooks. But {just don't see enough of it
around me. Models must simplify. Mine would end invested consumption at
Independence more ar loss.
Twin also anlel adult selves works subliminal and tostless job
experience. 1don'tsec itas taking a secand away from work for pay. This again bs
meant a describe ie usual rulk only. Ben-Paraths mode, | think, allows an
impression thal workers can chause hetveen warning and learning by allocation of
time. The quotes [rom Schulte in Chiapler § described hat us common. [just don't
see much of it happening, Rather we tend to work fewer hours at the end of careers,
not the beginning or middle wheu time for recovery of self-nvested work remains.
1 said that Ben-Porath's equations imply
pay = rualized wrk
Twould substitute the pay cule
pay= gross realized work
~ realized work + human depreciation
= wok self-invested work + human depreciation, {6.17)
asa norm or expectation. [tisn't a guaranteed outcome becanse deadweight loss
happens to human capital too, We may be Rit hy a hus, or lose our jobs in a samp, ar
he sent ts prison ar drafied into the army. The pay rule means that recovery bs
foreseen. I7(6.17) were stated in terms of outcomes, "recovered" would have to be
inserted hefare "human depreciation’
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Tbelieve thal the case for tis rule is very strong, The deadweight loss rule and the
argument from the maximand rule give logical certitude that buman depreciation is
expected to be recovered iu pay. The convergence axioms would then give actual
recovery as a norm. The rule disallows the prior claims hypothesis, or possibility
that maintenance is recavered too, row an accumulation of implavsihilitics that led
me finally ta rule them put by adjusting the axons.
The life cycle mare] should also specify that human capital cantinues after
retirement. Ladmil that Us rules aul the sinplicities assumed in the boss secretary
arable, 1 continues because we earn imputed pay uolil the end, anit human capital
remains as ils present value,
Ivwould also model in my depreciation theory. Vay, like the mortgage payments, is
all realized work (intorest) at the start and all human depreciation (amortization) at
the end. No other explanation of age wage profiles will hold water.
ANew Approach to the Pay Rule
Treassaried 1 the pay rule from Ue maximal and desdsweight Toss rules Another
approach can reach (he same conclusion.
“the total return truism finds
output = capital growth + cash flow,
16:16) expressed Ben-Parath's equation as
human grawth = invested consumption +scll-nvestod work
~rvvovered human depreciation,
Cash (low 3s the flow discounted to present value, Tradition, since Farr in (be mid-
nineteenth century, has seen humans cagital as present value vf future pay less what
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Teall invested consumption. | ped in Chapter 3 that this tradition is sound,
although not logical certitude. | putit as
human cash flow = pay invested consumption, (638)
Wark is defined as the auput of human capital. Summing 6.16) and (6.17) now
shows the pay rule
wrk = pay 1 self-invested work - recovered human deprecation,
aller cancellation of invested consumption.
his says that the pay rule is not so exotic after all (thas beeu staring us in the face
since the Schultz-led consensus, with Ben-Forath, figured out the human growth
equation a half a century ago. We had effectively recognized human cash How as
Day less invested consumption since Farr a century hefore, without putting ft fn
thse words. The Latal return truism does the rest
ANew Approach to the Y Rule
The marginalist tradition, which has dominated economic hough! since its
introduction by Jevons and Menger in 1871, has treated all consumption as the end
point exhausting capital in satisfying tstes. doesn't follow thal macginalists were
unaware that some is invested in human capital. At least three of the leading ones
understood human capital well, That includes Leon Walras, a third co-tounder of the
‘marginalist revolution in 1874. alsa mentioned Marshall. wha agreed with Farin
disputing Petty, and Irving Fisher. But all thie, and marginalsts in general,
preferred to locate human capital outside the economy proper. Whether they spake
af labor measturvel in dallas per uni tine, or human capital measured in dollars
alone, Une Jarger Geclor was Laken Lo active exogenously. [L provided ils services
room usiche aml was pac) their market value in return, as if on he bavks of a firm.
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Marshall's pupil Keynes was thoroughly a marginalist, as are economists in general
today and as am L. One of the features of bis General Theory of 1936 was a kind of
double-entry accounting for national product. Product was output and equivalently
income. Output meant the sum of prices of final products produced within the year,
while meame meant the shares of that sum paid to the workers and investors
Inducing it. [is double-cntry dea can he putas
output = investment + consumption = income = pay + profit (6.19)
Tshawed why disagree, Bul led us see how the total return truism might seem to
have led Lo What inference if we leave workers or human capital oulside the economy,
To treat them as arriving exogenously trom outside is essentially to treat the
national economy as iit were a single firm. Output inside is simply profit, Output
outside is work, meaning creation of value by the workers. This gives the truism
output = work + profi
confirming thal total outpul is the sum of feclor pulputs.
So far, 50 good. But vow Mill and Keynes aud most tradition slip by acguicg that pay
equals and compensates all of work and nothing else. That's why (6.18) equites
output to pay plus profit, Schulz and Ben-Porath and other students of burma
capital correct this in part by recognizing some work as self-nvested rather that
‘marketed for pay. My pay rule adds that pay recovers human depreciation as well as
realized work. (6.19) should have reasoned
autpul = incwme = work + prfit
= pay | sell-invested work - buman depreciation | profi. (6.20)
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Where Keynes and Kuznets and macroeconomic adition biave been sight is in
reasoning that pay and gross profit, meaning gross of depreciation, sum to the
“expenditure” spent on consumption aud gross investment. This fact of arithmetic is
the logic behind Say's law: pay plus profit are alveays enough to buy what is
Iroduced. We saw that this truism gives cold comfort when calamity or
misjudgment make prafit negative, as with the subprime hauses of 2008. What it
certifies, anyhow, is
expentiture: = pay + gross profil = cansum lian | gross investment. (6.21)
We can sublract depreciation Lo reach
pay + profit = consumption + investment. {8.22)
Now (6.19) can he corrected as a whole ta shove
inca: = pay + profit + sell-invested wark - human depreciation
—utput
= consurmpling - investment 1 selCinvestel wark
~ bumen depreciation. (8.23)
My main goal in (bis book bas been 10 further the work of Solow in exogenizing
roth, and also the work of Ben-Uorath in endogenizing human capital as
something produced wishin the economy. Jt was in that spirit that | derived the Y
rule in Chapeers 2 and § by putting human capital inside. I reached
UTE = fnvestnent + human capital grave + cash low.
Tere “ex post net” is understood before palpu and investment, so that investment,
means physical capila] growh. (6.16) applies the growth truism lo bumin capital.
“The cash ow truism shows that cash ow is nel transfer plus exhaust realized in
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ste satisfaction. These are ul) ex post descriptions of realized outcomes rather thin
intentions. Together they give
output = investment + vested consumption + positive self-invested work
~ human depreciation + net transter + exhaust
= investment = invested consumption + sclf-vested worl
= recovered human deprecation + net transfer + exhaust, 6.24)
This much is certitude. 1 now apply (5.9), which includes
cansumptian = invested consumplivn | pure consumption,
10 reach the ¥ rule in its general form:
output = investment + consumption + sclf-mvested work
~ human depreciation + net transter. (625)
The net transfer term disappears at the collective scale.
Althaugh (6.24) is logical certitude infered fram definitians, (5.8) and cansequently
{6:25) mre nol. Leannot rule aul the possibility of a third kind of consumption
secavered in work products is per Quesnay. Thope (hal my interpretation of age-
wage profiles 1 the lish of the buss-secrelary parable lis revealed that us
improbable. The same holds for my derivation of the pay rule through Ben-Porath's
equation and (6.18). (6.18), my inference that human cash flow equals less invested
consumption, also trusts that all maintenance consumption is exhausted in
satisfying tastes.
Summary
Accounting for rman capital is much ike accounting in a frum. Expected reovery of
‘human depreciation in pay is logical certitude ilusteated in age-wage profiles and in
the hoss-secrelary parable. The pay rulk is not entirely logical vertitue, however, a
italso asserts thal mainlensoce consumption is nol recovered, Age-wage profiles
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support this hypothesis (oo, as the constancy of pay differences Lo the end woukl
atherwise be improbable. { made it the Darwinian axiom: maintenance is exhausted
in satisfying our taste for survival.
Ben-Parath's life cyele was adjusted to express these features, Factor risk theory:
argued that hutan capital is the riskier and higher-returm factor because capital of
any Kind ake on the risk charsaceristics of is ners and human capital is owned
disproportionately by the risk-tolcrant young,
The ¥ rule contradicts the ¥ = 1 € equation, while the piy rule contradicts the
dogo hil output equals pay plas work. National accounts are founded on both.
That means | can expect tough resistance. | have tried to prepare for it by adding a
little more to cach argument with each chapter.
“Uhroughout this chapter, and throughout this boak, | have bent over backwards ta
distinguish Iogleal certiturics fram falsifiable hypothesis. Feonomies needs bath. But
ited to knows which is whith. The pay and ¥ rules, or example, ar uch
certitude in part, The certain part is Une herwtical one, The present value and
‘maximand rules follow from definitions. and compel expected recovery of human
depreciation in pi. | then relied on he convergence axioms (0 infer actual recovery
asa norm, nota invariable outcome, and on the new axion: of the biological
imperative, is well us evidence (rom age-wage profiles, 0 infer thal maintenance
consumption is exhausted rather than recovered in pay as well
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CHAPTER 7: PETTY'S IDEA
How We Gol to this Pain
1 said that it had any sense, | would have left the veorms in the can by pretending to
believe (1.1) as bill did and as the rest of the world seems 10 do. Charts and tables
coufirm bis prediction in his and thei terms as well as mine. ut Piketty's argument
was rightly criticized for leaving human capital out. Someone ight or might not
have faulted mine on the same ground iF] had stopped at the end of Chapter &.
Whether they would have: of Rat, every composer kins that the cite ta heat fs the
ane inside, What tal critic oli me weas Uy garahle a case al realy wan, npn the Gin,
ao follow the argument and worms wherever they lead. That's why toy Lille
‘promised other surprises.
risked following it past clarification into digression when 1 argued the pay rule.
since tried to justity the digression, if there was some, by showing how that rule
could explain Piketty's data far pay/net profit ratios in the twentieth century. And |
tried ta shaw haw the pay rule and depreciation theary combined, making pay all
man depreciation an no realized wrk al the end, gives the anly consinging
explanation of age-wage profiles showing Hsing or steady pay as human capital
gran smanthly bo oro, Risk theory reinforve this argument by revealing Lim
discount vates for human capital as those mare plain for physical capital wwned by
the same ageing cohorts. Every slep was an adventure, and every step led 10 Lhe
next one, But | opened other questions and cans along (be way, and the same critic
tells me to follow the worms a litle farther.
1 5aid that the cost of survival is adult consuniption tar the sale of investment in the
next generation, that pure consumption is more or less the same, and that we will
understand the maximand when we unierstand pure consumption, These threads
eae inte evolutionary biology, whith reasans how Uaits are selected for lineage
survival. The faithful need uot take alarm, Although 1 mean natural selection, divioe
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selection should probably do as well, We are all a peace with the fact that people
and other creatures cave for their young.
Economies and evolutionary biology ar much the same. Helen Keller, bom blind
and deaf, might still have rcasoncal her way through much of both. (amlet would
have laved then, [lave ther ost when they test the lnits of lagi, and consult the
dais only at the: eid. The: theme: rom which bath reason, us Oerbert Spencer Laught
nthe nineteenth century, Is shat he called “sural of the fittest Anather
shilosapher, Karl Popper, found Faull with this ides a century later. Papper was one
af those Trnentioned who disprove of truisms, 1 haven ead Popper, bul gather
that he thought il improper Lo define fitness s polential survival, and then measure
sta survival, That objection is close to being understandable from an anti-truism
viewpoint. But the reason why itis not quite a truism is instructive, beasurement
implies an “empirical” world of data in external and observable reality. Spencer's
insight, cally his paraphrase and generalization of Darwin's, is nat quite a truism
because it carries the hypathests that “potential” has an pirical meaning
Aristotle’ idva thal patency precedes amd explains ac. is called cmsalily. Adam
Smith's friend ani fellow Scotsman David Tume scarcely doubled causality, but
argued correctly {1 think] that it cannot be proved either by logic or hy experiment.
‘The Rutest prove themselves such by surviving if tnd only if Aristotle was right,
Natural selection simply meaus the untestable but itcle-doubted theory of causality.
Spencer or Darvin or Gertrude Stein might be faulted for insulting our intelligence
by stating the obvious. That shoe would fit Gertrude Stein. But Spencer and Darwin,
Jike the little boy in Hans Christian Andersen's The Emperor's New Clothes, were
stating the ohvlaus unseen. Andersen's paint was that intelligence was nat the thing
Jacking ar what the little hoy supplied. twas abaut how tradition and mind-sets and
in-groups might sometimes new a Inak from outsiile. Peer review is nal enough.
Sometimes il perpetuates nonsense. The litle hay was nal peer, but be could ell
clothes vehien he sav tem. (“Peer”, as any thenrist knows, means someone who
pees on your theory.)
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J contess that this book casts me as that little boy crashing the economic party, and
‘maybe the evolutionary biology one too, in trust that outsiders might have better:
chances to spot the obvious unscen. What else was the pay rule? | derived it easily
fram doctrines already accepted, | think, and anyhow hard to refute. Those were the
Total return turisin and flen-Parath's equation far human growth, The maxinand
rules ar deaweight lass rks wauld pre ibs well. How sould Becker have missed
that what halds for investment in jab training by enplagers holds for any
investment hy anyane in anything? Now could sturents of the age-wage problem
have missed he abvious solution? (nvestment implies expected recovery with
interest, by the investor or a chosen donee, snd recovery means recovery of
depreciation. | belabor this point because tradition dies hard, and naturally tends to
circle wagons under attack. | doubt that my surprise attack will meet the resistance
Darwin's found. Darwin's met resistance founded on faith. 1 took pains to show that
my version requires only selection for lincage survival, and that a henign Artiticer
might ordain the sane.
Evolutionary Blology and Hamilton's Rule
Economics, meaning any quanilative rationale of choice, normally describes
humans and human choice. Thi goes for (his book Loo. Bul some Lreiments of
economics including this ove ave meant to it other creatures as well, My axioms
have kept that in mind. The mortal and reproducing population need nol be human.
Much of the animal kingdow, | think, shows convergent tastes aud predictions or
acts as if did. The biological imperative is meant to apply to all. All, as I sec it, own
capital of both factors. ven protazaans own (“monopolize”) the nutrients they
asstoflate and the space they occupy. mans are exceptional in their cultural
accumulations of learning and techrialogy shiv in aur secular (lasting) growth,
But Lid nol. mike Unise features axioms.
Targued thal econmimics ended Lo reasun explicitly or implicitly frm the hivlagical
imperative, meaning what [call “ends” in lineage survival, (rom Petty through Smith
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and Ricardo and Malthus nd Mill, unul the marginalist revolution shifted focus
from objectives to the mechanics in supply, demand and price. Bioeconomics awoke
a century later, largely it seems in response to the challenge of Hamilton's tule. Now
Iwill look atittoo.
My tenn "lincage survival” is unusual. Is meant not to take: sides between “kin
selection” anil “group selection.” The kin selection idea vas anther wr for
Mamiiton's rule from his dactarial thesis in 1964. 1t said that genes encoding
investment in close kin sncarle nvest ment in likeliest sharers of Use genes. and
should tend ta entrench and perpetuate themselves. is contition for investment
wis £ibe. rhere meant velal edness: % for offspring or siblings, % for nephews or
nieces or grandoftspring and so Forth, h meant beneht to the dome, and e meant
cast ta the investor. The sign » means “greater than”. The cost and benefit were
measure in Blass itsell, meaning chances Ln survive and breed. But Ul toa meant
“inclusive fitness” where investing in kin counled as breeding when adjusted for
seldtedness, The idea was that 1 give up some of my chances if] can increase yours
10 my nel genic advantage in the Jong run. Hamilton allowed for exceptions
sncluding meiotic drive, which sometimes forecloses gene competition, His rue
prevailed because iL made mostly good predictions, Humans and creatures in
general usually care for thei oven young Hist, if they have any, and for closely
related young it not.
Tamifeon made ft clear that cost ¢ and benefit b fn his hurdle tbc respectively
meant fitness given up by the investor and iliess grained by the invest He
further made it clear that filness could be measured as R. A. Fisher's “reproductive
value” V(x) published in 1930 and 1957, V(x) meant likelihood al age x of
reaching cach successive age times expected oftspring ot that age. V(x). at Hob
Trivers’ “repriductive success” RS, which simplifies V(x) bn expected remaining
offspring, is implicitly constant at the population scale unless there is population
arowth (Fisher's “Malthusian parameter”). For creatures other thau us, the
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parameter typically fluctuates dround zero and group Rness bolds about where iL
started,
Hamilton's rule, applied to diploids like us where closest relatedness 1 absent
inbreeding is ¥, forhids investment where fitness gained (benefit) is less than twice
fitness given up (ost). 1 see no escape from the inference that fitness would double
with each generating, or more Wy acount Far cases where relatedness fell below 1.1
seu na vellel in an Interpretation, say, that each successive generation cures this
imbalance hy investing anly Walla ess af ils Fess and Telling te rest lapse.
Fitness is likeliboud of leaving tlescendants of equal fitness. [Lis nol strictly
conserved, because likeli is generally nol idealical to outcome. There is ex ante
and ex past fess, But the ex ante kind is meaningless unless potency, in Aristotle's
terns, is expected to converge to act. Hamilton's rule should not have escaped this
critique for halfa century. It clearly has merit, but needs some diferent expression
Such a reformulation might treat vh/c as a maximand within practical constramts.
We can sew how iL might. he hy Tnoking at Une cantesst, Darr idea is # competition
fin brevding success. This bivlagical imperative is a powerful predictar in nature. 1
predicts thi eats wre selected for successful reproduction (o the exclusion of all
else Evidence is impressive, “Semelparous” creatures who breed only once and do
not invest postpartum cave, like salmon and soybeaus, die within hours. An octopus
mother breeds only once. cares for ber young a few weeks, and dies is they disperse.
Nature is on a tight budget. Resources wasted soon become resourceslost to
thritier lineages.
Taifeon saw this. [e was ight i stressing the role of competition among
individuals and individual heritable traits. Darwin did the same. One thing
Thamillon's rule leaves aut, which is nol to claim Ut he overlaoked iL, is that Lraits
aul their genes best al prioritizing sel-replicalion might for Wal reason hut
chances of achieving it, We knows this happens. Duman edition everywhere resists
aol punishes nepotism when it trusses a line, Jane Goodall reporied the same for
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her chimps il Gombe. | think [ have seen it among (he pack of dogs, led by my
father's favorite "Sean, at Sutton Ulace, That would count as one of the practical
constraints. Too little support for family over equally deserving others is seen asa
fault, and too much as another.
The reason is ohwaus. Jacks ambitions for kin wil eventually conflict with 7ack’s,
Just as with ambitions for food and nest sites and mating apporbanities. Not
everyone's frsthorn can he king of the hil, Sactal creatures valve agonistic rules ty
sete such conflicts peacefully. Losers in mating lous maments, ar in contests where
males display and fernales chovse, usually survive W compete agin nest year. The
contests in he group interest because (he \riils of strength and skill proved in the
winner will be those passed on, Gur genes tell us to compete as best we can (or the
sake of a fait test, and to stop when the verdict seems clear, And soon enough it does,
“the quarterback rics his best tor three downs to move the yardsticks, but trots to
the sidelines on furth dawn for the sake of another chance later. IF genes can
encode this farsighted strategy for those other Kings of competition, why not for
mepalistic competition 10?
For decades, hiologists wondered why genes need so much selecting in species long,
established. Shoulda earlier contests have selected tre Mutest genes once snd for all,
with no need for further ones but to screen out recent and harentul mutations?
Shouldn't the best trits have become clear millennia ago? Why peed males contest
in tournaments or beauty contests every breeding season, with mostly the sane
contestanss, when best genes ought to have proved themselves soon after the
species began? Then there would be no genetic diversity except for recent
mutations nat yet screened out. Population genetists such as Fisher, |. B.S. laldane
ani Sewall Wright had written mathematical mods shsng that even the slightest
selectivn pressures shaukd drive a gene Lo fixity, ani its rivals la extinction, within a
few generations if selection Gavored it consistently, Their argument was Malthus”
insights breeding sucess is geomedric. Yet Unere is ich allelic diversity wherever we
Jauk. There are some gene siles in some species where he most common allele
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holds frequencies wider ten percent, and those (Frequencies are constantly shifting.
The flux proves that losers are allowed mating opportunities too, though not as
much, and leave young fo compete in the next generation.
Tamilton explained why that could make sense in 2 paper published with Marlene
Zukin 1962. Gearge Williains fn 1976 and John Toaby in 1980 had argued that
Test genes in ne generation might not be fitest in the nest if niche pressures
arid ta counter current gene choices. Toaby had painted to parasites and
pathogens, particularly single-cell pes whase If: cyele runs less Urn an haur, They
could evolve nev strains W oulank our old defenses and cal for new ones
Hamilton and Zuk continued this there, They suggested thal genes might have long
‘memories, put in human terms, and might have seen the same parasites and
pathogens pull such tricks befove. if some individuals in the host population still
carried the antidote gene that worked the last time the same unexpected strain
arose, or something clase enough to it, hosts collectively could weather the thrcat if
that antidote: genc could be identitied and spread fast enaugh. Then how? Damion
aml Zak proposer thal what sinning mals display in wntests of singing ar
craaking ar agility or symmetry, or hight calors in the right places, was possession
af Lhe genes needed to counter (he current stein of pathogens and parasites.
Losers in the same contests carried genes thal had proved best against sirains of the
past and might come back in the future, Nepotism practiced by winners would
speed up the spreal of the current antidote, Bul losers carried genes that bad
worked against other strains that might recur. A way had to be found to keep all
those potential ancidotes somewhere in the medicine cabinet, Current losers had to
he saved for later. Gene diversity was the key to group sureival in the long run. The
quartertiack tats to the hench on fourth down because that is hetter for himself and
the team than being carried to the hospital. Ne realizes tat other players are best
ov punts or Geld als or defense until he gets the hall again. Selection pressures da
ao favor be same (rails and genes every me.
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Hamilton's Parasite Theory
My take on Hamilton's 1982 paper, vehich | consider his masterpiece, is a blend of
his thoughts, Hob rivers” from a decade before, Richard Alexander’s, and maybe
mine. Mine sees a population arranged inlacal "demes” which intrabrecd in most
cases far best adaptation to lacal pressures including pathagens and parasites. A
Jawal strain bo which the local deme is adapted might spr Wo other demes which
are not. ost in the tnvaded demes beeome sick. Female anes there intuit the
degraded canditivs, breed Tess oilers, and breed mostly females (mothers an
choose) hecause males with their vw lalate woli-parasite (histocampatabilily)
genes will find few willing males, This begins the part from Trivers. [llcome lo
Alexander's ter.
Mothers in the source deme see an opposite picture, Conditions are not necessarily
better than before, hut they are better than in the invaded dems. They intuit this,
Iced are aften, and breed mastly males. The males migrate to thase invaded
deme, carrying histompatibility genes pre-adapled lr the invariers, and find
willing mates ere if Urey can shaw tie signs. The idea thal. mothers dhoose to
breed mostly males in prosperous conditions is (be other half of Trivers ides. The
Ket tht the invading parasite nd the males wilh antidote genes might lend lo
originate fromm the same deme may be mine,
That presupposes that females can trust the signs. Nature makes sure they cau. She
provides resistant males with hav-to-toign ones to prove it. This was one of
Hamilton's key sights. His idea has been called the "truth in advertising” theory:
Symmetrical antlers, deep craks, accurate sangs and bright colors where they
should be tell the Females whose genes can he trusted. Parasites and pathogens
wal kes then i allied ost males if rey could. IU seers they can't
Tamil, 1 helieve, had salve thre nagging puedes at pice. Why does nature
waste resources on beauty displays hal seem al first glance Lo hinder filaess? 4
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peacock's Ll feathers ace 4n encumbrance in running (rom predators, And why give
the expensive displays mostly to males? Why do males exist at all iu species where
they contribute genes but uo care?
We just saw the answer to the first. Answers to the sscond two again build on an
insight of Trivers in 1973. Males produce eheap sperm carrying genes alone.
Females produce eggs prcked with costly nutrients. & mali Gin pass genes Lo many
descendants through man mates if they approve his signs. That speeds up the fight
ginal parasites. Nature evvlved males al their sell-promating signs and thei
contests for Fastest spread of antidote genes Lo vale up 1 shifts in parasite load.
Where Do Losers Go?
Akey point in the Hamilton-Zuk theory is that losers’ genes iu the beauty coutest are
typically not driven to extinction, They are driven to lowe frequencies until needed
again. Kin selection, up to a point, helps maintain genic diversity hy preserving
current lasers within the gene pao. Selection pressures punish and restraint kin
selection when it conflicts with preservation of athe genes whose time will come
again. met (millon ada conferene in Squaw Valley, where Bab Trivers had
helped us atleact bio, and (old bim this reson why Thought bis 1962 piper helped
complete nd qualify bis 196+ pape. He wis (he absent-minded professor
perfection. Moody, distracted, profound. He smiled, a are thing for him, and said
“IUs been a long search.”
his explains what | mean by lineage survival or tituess. Much of this book assumes
ts maxinuzation even among modern humans, who create our own urban
environments fn place af the ancestral savanna for which we were adapted. And
much of economic history, although written in cities by eity-dwallers, appears bo
assume the same. Chapler 2 liste] same examples. Lets revi rem. There was
Pelly’s of 1662. The similar equilibrinen wage theories of Smith and Ricardo
expecta py Lo canverge bb the level maintaining al reglaving the work force,
whichis trusted Lo spend it va both, Malthus’ population principle in 1798 nd 1601
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added the mechanics, Nassau Senior made thal principle bis firs\ axiom in his
Outline of 1836. The biological imperative lapsed from attention vehen the first
generation of marginalists, led by Jevons and Menger, with Walras 500m to follow,
thought it unscientific to explain or justify tastes. It reemerged a century later in
hivceanamics, much of which Inoked far economic implications of (familton's rule.
We will sc how it mifght clarify pure cansum ptian and the maximand.
Enlightened Kin Selection
Tamillon's rule needs cm pletion because te quarterback and his genes have
Aggared pul thi thes bench is bette than the hospital. Wha really happens, 1 think, is
along:range example of Bob Trivers’ “reciprocal aliruism” of 1971 4s generalized by
Richard Alexander, Bob rote that creatures might invest in non-kin if the
investment were expected to be repaid with interest. Alexander added that the
repayment could be to the investor's kin with equal genetic benctit if Hamilton's
Indic 1b>c were cleared from the investor's perspective. The quarterback yields
10 special teams on Fourth down, and they to the defense until passession changes
again, far the best interests of each and all in the Jang run. The interest they receive
in en far deferring W won-kin is Lhe cast af maintaining themselves on the bench. IU
does pol accrue and compound because itis paid out continuously. IL is an insurance
cost tha each lemporary winner dares nol rim. Group selection is enlightened kin
selection,
Three or four decades ago, this much acknowledgement of group selection would
have met more resistance than | expect now. It shouldu't have. Half the beauty of the
Hamilton-Zuc scenario is in explaining allelic diversity as a result af agonistic rather
than lethal competition. Zack and Jack and their genotypes are rivals now because
they are Leammates in the big picture.
Kin selection is a help until it crosses the line and becomes a hindrance, Some.
mothers in the sure deme will carry higher frequencies of the antidote gene than
thers, They will tend to be healthier, and so able ta invest more energy in mare
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Young, If dl mothers invest preferentially in their own. or maximize Hamilton's
standard rhc , healthier mothers will produce more young with higher doses of
the antidote genes, while sicklice mothers will produce Less with less. Here itis
females Who compete to prove the same better genes that males ust proved in the
tournaments or beauty contests.
The race against parasites seeds up again with Trivers fine insight about healthier
mothers chaosing to dial up the rata of sons to daughters “primary sex matin’), and
10 exgund the reproductive perind at bath ends with shorter birth sparing for more:
male offspring still. (Sonne of this may be my idea rather than his) Mature proves
best current genes vice, Falher prove bem by duking il out or sirulling their stuff,
Mothers carrying the same best gees prove it by winning the breeding, contest
against other mothers after.
“The exantef ex post distinction counts as much in biolagy as in economics. Here it
accelerates the selaction pracess. Offspring carrying the antidote gene to meet
current. parasites will generally not on thal acount enst more ex ont invested
consumption Lo vase, Tey are males, who can Lurn tat arfvantage in many
allspring, the ex past value of thal same investment can be fue higher, The converse
works for offspring lacking the gene, Their mothers can make (he best of it by
producing females who will find breeding opportunities anyhow with mates
carrying be gene, sioce she knows which they are and males ways bave cheap
spec to spare, aud will so keep their own genes in the gene pool.
Parasites got the last laugh by Killing Hamiltan on research in Arica a few years
after met him, | never knew wel enough to call him Bll. Boh Trivers called him the
deepest thinker In the ward. That cauldn't he wrong by much.
Parasites and Demes
Tirnst Mayr, Bab Trivers’ doctoral advisar at Tara defined a deme as a race or
subpapulition (hal intrabreeds al least 95% of the time, | hypothesize thal it does so,
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in some cases, lo maximize [requency of 4 histocompatibiily gene which is an
antidote to the local strain of parasite or pathogen. This idea could complement the
Hamilton-Zuc parasite model nicely. It would give a safe home to which both gene
and parasite could retreat unt] thei times come again.
Period of Production Theory
Back ta economics. Chapter 4 ncntioned John Rag as a contributar ta what later
dusulpual into Mills free growth Uneory. Rae's bouk, published in 1834, also Ineging
what was called period uf production thevry. The ied was that production lok
time, and that profil compensated the investor's patience over the production
period. Senior, who had sent Rae's book to Mill, adopted this idea in his own better
known Outline in 1836. Rae's book itself found few readers, despite its warm
endorsement by Millis his own magaus opus of 1818. Jevens adopted the idea from
Senior in 1871, and Boehm Bawerk from Senior and Jevons in his book of 1889.
Boehm Bawerk soon learned of Rac's work. and dedicated later editions to hin
Period of production theary thrives today in the Austrian School, which had heen
founded hy Roch Bawerles teacher Carl Menger in 1871. (Menger was the guy who
squab with Schnoller in Chapler 2)
This found lite favor elsewhere, The pecion seemed impractical Lo define ar
‘measure, and so gave tlle predictive value, Joseph Schumpeter, a student of Boehm
Bawerk who disagreed with bicn on this point, argued in 1911 that the period of
production is zero; capital is present continuously, Frank Knight, who bad
anticipated Schultz in realizing that some consumption is investment in human
capital, argued as Schumpeter had.
But the theary fs tru by definition. ny rate i the fverse or recipracal ofa period.
“The inverse of 4% per year is 25 years. Return is the ratio of net output to capital
producing it, meaning the rate of production, and its reciprocal Is the period af
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production, Where the critics were right was in finding a lack of clarity and
predictive value in the theory, Where does it lead? itabbits and redwoods have
different periods of production, at frst glance, bur should nonetheless agree in
set ifin risk. Jevons wrote that he meant production of the “wage fund” as a
whole, meaning the universe of consumer goods. But he pointed to wine and timber
as examples to help pin down the erlod. Bach Bawerk picked nine years for io
reson | can see.
All went wrong by consideriog physical capital only. The factors blend into wach
other; physicd becomes human capil (brough invested consumption, sad
conversely when human depreciation is recovered in products, The generation
length gives the replacement period for total capital if total capital is interpreted as
funess and if all fitness of each generation is passed to the next.
Jevans and Boch Bawerk assumed growthlessness for simplicity, and would have
realized that they were modeling nly the replacement component in net aviput.
Bahn Bawer k's cantribulian, anticipated by Pelly, was his insight thal lime
prefercnee rate explains rate af return by pricing the capital denaminatar, and not
the reverse. Thiss had nal hewn carr in Rae ar-Seniar or Jess. give all Tour high
‘marks for a near miss, Bul they vould have come loser. Remember (hal Seoior's
first axiom had been Malthus’ population principle. He and the others would also
have known of etty’s human and total capital idea, which was occasionally revived
and critiqued. They didn't quite connect the dots.
Next Generation Theory
Petty wrote A Treatise of Teves in 1662. The whole title continues to aboutas many
words, counting ampersands, as pages in the bank or pamphlet. is son tells us that
Pell dictate his books overnight to seceutarics sh slept by Liens 1Uis sy 1
helieve that Petty did't need much sleep. Oe was a go-getter wha had safled to
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Ireland as chef medical officer o Cromwell's ironsides, stayed on o survey he Jeish
Jand with which Cromvel] would pay his troops, and then got Parliament's approval
10 investin that high-risk land to make a fortunc, tis rare for a man of practical gitts
10 bea deep thinker £00. Pert, like my father, was both. His Vertum Sapienti of 1664
was first to apply the ancient capitalization formula to both factors, meaning
wankers as well as tradeablc things, and sa ariginated the concept af human capital
as present value. Te applied this insight there and is Politica! Arithmetic in 1676,
and agaln in The Total Wealth of Englond in 1683, ta ncasure the tatal wealth af
Tigard inuding human capital. Thal makes him the: father of national accauntss
Tut bis gretestachieveroents, [ink cane in A Treatise of Tares.
Chispler 4, paragraph 9 of that book begins with
19. Having found the Rent or value of the sus fructus per antuo, the
question is, bow tauy veacs purchase {as we usually say} is the Lee simple
naturally worth? If ve say an infinite number, then an Acre of Land would be
equal in value to a thousand Acres af the same Land; which is absurd, an
intinity of unites being equal to an infinity of thousands.
Pety clearly recngnizes thal lime preference, meaning our laste for impatience,
explains produdivily, or ralio of pulpui to capital, rather than the other way around.
This powerful and counterintuitive insight is usually credited (o Boehm Baserk in
188, who showed that iis rue for man-made things as well as land. The utility or
uss fructus being a given, we bid less for the land or other capital producing itif we
ave Jess patient, and more if more. Bidding Jess for bis denominator of rate of return
bids that rate itself up if the numerator is a given, and conversely. That's why riskier
assets ofter higher return, Petty's reductio ad ebsurdam ot a hypothesis of infinite
patience is abvious in hindsight, but may not have been written down hefore Petty
continues:
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Wherefore we must piich upon some limited number, and that [4pprehend
10 be the number of years, which | conceive one man of ity years old,
another of twenty eight, and another of seven years old. all being alive
together may be thought to Live: that is to say, of a Grandfather, Lather and
Childe; few wen baving reason to take care of more remote Posterity: for ita
‘man be a great Grandfather, he bimselfis so much nearer his end, so as there
are hut three in a continual line of descent usually coexisting together; and as
Some are Grandrathers at forty years, yet as many are not til above sisty, and
sie de cteters.
20. Wherefore 1 pitch the number af years purchase, that any fand is
naturally warth, by be Ue ordinary went af thru sich person their lives
Nave in Tingland we estecn three ives equal To one and twenty years, and
cansequently the value of Land, to be aout he same number of years
‘purchase, Possibly if they thought themselves mistaken... (ss the observer
an the Bills of Mortality thinks bey are...)
21... But io other Countreys Lands are worth neacer thirty years purchase,
by reason of the better tiles, more people, and perhps Lruer opinion of the
value and duration of thee lives.
23. One the other hand, Lands are worth fewer years purchase fasin
Ireland)... by reason of the frequent rebellions... =
‘The "other Countreys™ could include France and especially Holland, then models of
Irosperity. Petty had made his fortune in Irish mortgages, and knew the years
urchase there.
Tout the argument isa pul. There is focus on Tongevity ard mstality, as if the
geverations are providing for old age. But Pelly’s uverlapping generations mote]
canool be much like Paul Semuelson's of Uhree centuries later, where « generalion of
productives leaves a nest egg for retirement. Samuelson’s productives are
replenished exogenously, with childven Left to the imagination, Why would Petty
have mentioned their ages? And retirement at age 50, as a norm, would have made
no sense to Petty or his readers. The grandfather wil stay in harness.
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The one and weal years could mean remaining life expectancy al age 50. Bul Pelly
could easily have spelled that out, or the implied 71 year terminus. He does spell out
the ages of the three generations, Their average ditference in age rounds to 21
years,
Petty’s readers, like Smith's and Ricardo's after, would have taken it for granted that
cach generation provides for the next. “Few nen having reason to fake eave of more:
remote posterity” vould have registered in the contest of thal priision. “Pasterity”
usually meant and means descendants.
His description, ike mine, is incomplete. He may mean that life expectancy is dso
factor in calculating the years purchase. If so, he apparently leaves that thought to
be followed up Jater. There is also 100m to atgue that the grandfather looks two
generations ahead, sa that the years purchase hecomes 42 years. Hut that would
give the usus fructus at 2.3%. Al the rates Petty yepnrts elsewhere fn the tract are
much higher. One gencration length is what ie stems ta apply. My reading is that
thw grand Father provides far the grandsun by passing all ta the san.
Pelly’s overlapping penecalion insight hss heen one of his least noticed, just as wilh
Mill's on output growth preceding and explaining capital growth. ) first red of
Petty's idea in a collection of Lionel Robbis’ lectures at London School of
Economics delivered in 1979-1960, but published in 2000. {learned from (hese
lectures that Gustav Cassel had published the same idea in his The Nature and
Necessity of Interest in 1903. | hunted that down. Robbins misremembered in telling
his students that Cassel had arrived at the idea independently. In fact Gassel and
Rabhins both quate the same excerpts from A Treatise af Toves that 1 ust did. Cassel
inferred Uhat Interest rales cannot stably Ine Jess than 26 per year
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Jarrived at the same idea independently, anyhow, and published itn Sociol Science
Information in 1989. To date itis my only publication in a refereed journal, and
remains uncited as far 3 1 know, Alan Rogers, a biologist at University of Utah,
published almost the same idea in 1994! and 1997+. Neither of us kneve of Petty or
Cassel or each uther. Both of Rogers” two papers are included in my appendix.
Petty’s great idea has otherwise remained unnoticed as faras maw.
TTT A A Tes Ho om Torts Ee pL Aad
Sunaerian temples knew how evaluate and as well as mortgages und annuities by
discounting to present value, ln tbe simplest case, where cash lowe is expected 10
‘hold constant forever, the logic begins with the definition
cash low ate = S000
capital
Algebra allows
cash flow
capital - ——— 7.1)
PH eh owrate 4
Years purchase, given those shplifyng assumptions, meant
Tn h 7.2)
Las Sh flowrate” l
Ye vation of Vo ror
Sunn nd Hino Chic aver To
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Suppase for example hat cash flow rate is known Lo be 4%, Using (7.2). we would
figure
yeu purchase = Lo Je year Ivews pe
Pofyerr 4% 1/100 ¥
“thatallows (7.1) to be reexpressed as
capital = {cash Naw) x {years purchase) 3)
Wiha cash ou ancl cash Now rate are assanmen constant over Lime, Urey butome
Klentical lo profit and rate of return. Sumerians realized! (hal return is the universal
‘minima, theee millennia before Turgol wrote thal down, and thal competition
tended to equalize it to a current market norm. Then it would also equal years
purchase.
Petty wasscarching tor the rationale of years purchase, and found it in the
generation length. Perty’s idea | think, and mine anyhow, could hegin with
wapital = means of accomplishing goals= means of lineage survival= fitness. (7.4)
Nature's way is transmission af all filness, meaning total capital Tor humans, Lo the:
next generation. Nature cares just as much for later generations, bul trusts each
generation of immediate descendants to knows best whal their own imediale
descendants will need for that long-range goal. Each passes the baton and retires.
We invest everything iu the next generaton precisely because we care about the
ones after, Hamillon's rule reflects this reality. Grandoffspring are only % related Lo
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donors, while offspring are % reluted. Hamillan thus predicts srandoffspring to
seceive investment only when benefit fcost ratio is double. My own analysis allows
more role for group selection, without saying how much, and shifts attention from
ho benctts to when.
Petty’ fdea, if understand hin, Is
‘years purchase = generation length = 2tycars, 0)
which would give
ash fawrate ——— = 4a (7.6)
I Generation length 21 years
This woukd tally well enough with rates of return and interes! rates as Petty knew
hen.
I would adjust Petty’s estimate of the generational length, Petty's primogeniture
model may have been true to law and custom for land inberitance, but ti vot true
to biology. | prefer R.A. Fisher's? method equal-weighting al births from first to last,
and soual-weighing ages of both parents at cach birth, We have some evidence that
the maternal gencration length in recent decades. by that method. has run near 26
years var recent eendes: 1 fathers ane five years older on average, Fishur's method
wad rive a 28.5 years. Rogers found 26.9 years rom other sources. Then (7.6)
would ive
cash owrate= 1-380 on
I TVR £
hw nest Thvenyof Marre Setscnian (150),
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Al his his assumed bias assumed constant cu flow indefinitely. Thal would imply
zero growth, Only under zero growth do output and rate of return simplify to cash
flow and cash low cate.
Now let's model growth in. { divide the ¥ Tule by total capital, as in Chapter 4, ta get
output _ total capital growth cashflow
towlcapital total capital total copital
ar more compactly
rte of return = growth rate 1 cash flaw rate, i]
At the collective scale, cash ow rate simplifies to pure consumption rate. That
would be written
Fate of FELT = GOW Fate + pure consumption rate, 7.9)
asin Chapter 4. Then {7.6 through (7.9) allow
Tate af retum = growth vate + 3.5% year 10)
al the wollective scalk.
£7.10) willl be wrang if growth ale were a function of cash fos cate. Usa that,
politicians, and even economists lo « degree, teach that faster growlh needs
consumption testraint first. Thal carrespands Wo cash flaw restraint in (7.10). Free
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row theory says such restiainl doesn't happen, Data say be same. | apply tbe
same idea in next generation theory.
My 3.5% is a ough estimate. What counts is the generation lengeh, The length was
rohahly higher, and the rate lower, before medicine and sanitation lowered
mortality rates, and let tw or thice births per cauple meet the need for papulation
replenishment
The cash flows or pure wonsumgion rake modeled at 3.5% might also vary for
reasons wher thi changes in Whe generation length. My charts show the pars
consumplion/iolal capilal rate as higher in the mildle part of the Uventielh century
as people drained capital reserves Lo keep up consumption in times of world-wide
depression. Il say more about these reserves.
First Interpretation
Next generation theary says fn effect that R. A. Fisher's versian of the generation
Jength, nal Petty's primgeniture version, gives Lhe periar of praduction of tolal
capital. We would miss the point ifwe Focused on the periad production of human
capital separately. Tot capital is our means of incage survival. This reinforces my
theme Lal human capital daes nol mean humans. 1 means skill sets priced at
present value of foreseen cash flow, Skill sels are not enough for linexge survival
We also need things. We should not fall into the tea of surplus value theory, which
had been taught by communists for decades before Karl Marx joined their ranks, in
supposing that skills make things. It is only halt the truth. Skills plus things make
skills plus things os the generations repeat.
Nar should we make the mistake af supposing that the generation length begins and
els uniquely fram birth to birth, sa tha the remaining period of production gives
shorter uver aul Life and the Lime discount rate steeper, The period fa cycle Js the
sme al any point. The young, simyly by maturing, are alrvaly investing in their
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counterparts in the nex! generation. Each cohort (sume-age group) invests
effectively in its immediate descendent. Eight-year-olds are investing in the next
generation of eight:year-olds, and so to the end. That's why Fisher's version of the
generation lengeh is best. It priovitizes each cohort and gender without judgment as
to which matter more. The period of production gives our patience horizon The
Trizon and its reciprocal, the pure cansuiptian vate, Both hald the same at any age.
Cash Flow and Risk
The msi mam] rult oles thal ime preference and return vary with risk. Return is
rowel cate plus cash flow rate, Ts variance with risk captured mare in one of these
two components than the lker?
We might ineuit that riskier and higher-return assets grow taster on average, over
enough time for the bumps of risk to even out. But if that tended to be true, the
miverse of assets would grow progressively riskier aver the decades and centuries
“That fs not iy reading of history. My impression is that smanther and rockicr
perinds come and go without wverall trend. Tn the world we know, then, iis cash
Mow rate rather han grat rate Lat varies from ase 1o asset with risk,
For lusiration, consider fictor risk. | argued that human capital (igure Lo be the
siskier and higher return factor because assets tend to reflect the risk appetites of
their owners. The young are more risk- tolerant, and own human capital
disproportionately, this bigher return were reflected it bigher growth, rather thar.
in higher cash flow, the ratio ot bunian to physical capital would tend to rise steadily
over the millennia. Most readings have tended to see it the other way around. |
myself favor the neutral assumption that the factors Keep pace. Then cash How rate
Becmnes higher far human than physical capital, with 3.5% the cap-weighted
average.
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Consider also Whe history of corporate leverage. Equities are riskier because bond
interest is paid first. If equities greve faster, however, leverage would constantly
decline. That is not what we see.
“This inferred concentration of visk premium in cash flow rate is convenient for
testing Grawth and return are to of the most dasely allowed vartables in
ecanomics. We have no iret mesure af the pure cansumptian rate, or cash low
rateat the callective scale, Nor have we any direct measure of grawth and return to
total capital al any scale. Bul we have s gan idea ol average return and growth and
cash flow Lo securities and business issets. By the naximand rule, return to human
capital should be the same bul for differences in risk. | model hum capital as
somewhat riskier, for reasons just given, and human capital is the larger actor,
hen if Lan right in placing the risk premium within the cash tow component of
return, and in estimating average-risk cash flow rate at 3.5%, cash-How rate to the
business sector as a whole should be somewhat less.
Next genuration theary predicts at the volledtive: scale. Collective return is implicitly
average return, and thal means average-risk return. My rearing of history, which
rules oul progressive growth of higher-risk ussels dt Ue expense of ower-risk anes,
simplifies (hat Lo average-risk cash low plus whatever collective or average growth
happens to be atthe moment.
Don’t Grandparents lovest?
Next genevation theory assumes that each generation invests all fs capital of both
factors in the next within the generation length. We expect it to do the same in tum.
We care about grandatfspring to, hut serve them best hy Dusting and enabling
thelr parents anly.
A first reaction i thal this denies the obvious, Humans Ltay, io advanced countries,
mvrmally live ta nearly ree Limes the generation length. (3 x 26.5 = 85.5). Fven
retirement 4l age 65 comes eight years aller twice (bal lenglh. And job number one
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for grandparents seems Lo be helping Lake care of grandchildren, Doesn't that Celsify
next generation theory?
Note quite. Retirement typically means dependence on savings or subsidy. The
parental generation subsidizes both the young and the old. Retirees can he
Interpreted th some extent as hired though willing caregivers paid for by parents.
That explains part. The rest [dhink, is hest explained as replenishing a capital
reserve. Nature bills up reserves in god times and depletes then in bad limes. 4
rise in longevity from whit is normally needed for lineage survival is a rise in
‘human capital reserves, Human capilal is Une most versalile ind. We geezers have
Jost a step. Bul we remember how t's dove, We particularly remember howe
parenting and homemaking are done, since those change least with technology.
Julius Caesar's nanny, with a tew pointers, could probably fll in as a nanny today. Jt
the parental generation were pulled away to fight a war, ar rehuild after a
catastrophe, we nldsters could keep up the home front
Free growth teary, abundantly proved in the da, is essential lo next generation
theory, Whal each generation invests in the next is all its fitness (total capital). All ex
post growth, up or down. is added or sublracted for (ree, Catastrophes and windfalls
ave the random kind of free growth, Tech gain is the accumulatiug “secular” (of
ges) Kind. | wouldn't put it past niture to have learned that sustined growth
meats rising risk. She could adjust with reserves, We may be selected (a nicer word
than programmed) to build human capital reserves intentionally, whether or not
sceing nature's motives for the huildup as distinct from out ow, when real wealth
doubles with every generation.
Thal. intentional or ex ante part would pean investmen in Ue reserve, (List
Tacgeted Lo the grantalfsprivg generation, because bey aren't expected Lo draw i
dist unless nesaled. All the rest of Une bul of human capital reserves in lifespan
prolongation is best explained as random free growth if my interpretation holds
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water, Nex generation (heory is not contradicted because i describes cash flows
only. Lt treats all growth at the collective scale as free and exogenous.
Testing Next Generation Theory
“The proxies for the pure consumption rate (Schultz pure consumption over total
capital) in security markets sould be dividend yield for cquities, and Interest for
dub cain. Thbatson Assuciales’ STI (2012), Chapter 4, shows average real
interest un TLS. trporate bands as 3.0% aver the peria 1926-2011. Real corporate
dividend yield rate over the period can be estimated from the same source al shout
245%. Jeremy Siegel's Stocks for the Lang Run (2002), Table 1-2, reports data
extending back to 1802. Real return over the period 1802 - 2001 is shown as
averaging 3.5% for long-term governments, and 2.9% for short-term goveraments.
Corporate bond returns would have run somewhat higher.
Ginbat Financial Date shows stock market information for 95 countries. Data for UK.
1S, Germany, Australia and France begin feom 1701, 1801, 1870, 1663 and 1896
respectively. My charts and tablos, and my website Free Growth ond Other Surprises,
shows this infirnation along with evidence for [ve gral
The eighteenth century is represented by LK. alone. UK. hea showed ceal price
return, dividend yield and total return at 21.4%, 7.9% and 29.3%, Volatility of
dividend yield was exceptional. From L8U1 forward, UK. averages for these flows
Were 229%, 42% and 6.4%. LS. tigures from 1601 orsvard were 2.9% 3.3% and
83%. Globe Finenciol Dot also shows collective flows far Europe and the world
since 1926. flere the Nigures were 3.365, 3.9% and 7.3% far Furope, and 3.5% 3.0%
and 7.3% tor the world.
Miduling of the puree cansugm pian vate before the emergence af security markets
could refer 1b the histary of interest rales alone. Interest is tle of return lo senior
claims. Rabe of return Wo any claim is realization by investors nel of all expense
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Jvestors as o interest mens lenders, nol borrowers, Interest rates published
historically are rates borrowers are contracted to pay. loterest rates realized by
lenders are less fortwo reasons. There are friction costs of due diligence,
contracting and collection. Detavlt costs, slight when tines are good, can he
catastrophic when times are bad
Homer and STi describe normal contracted rates, nat realized rates netof thase
casts, as 10% = 40% in Sumer and Bahylonia, 65 = 1855 In ancient Greece, 5% =
24% in Tigypl, and 4% ~ 12% in Rare and the: Byzantine Fan pire Aller higher
ates in the dack as, Bu rapean martyages and cammercial loans faund the rnige
7% - 25% in the thirteenth and fourteenth centuries. The range selled down lo
4% - 11% in the sixteenth century, and (0 3% ~ 10% by (he seventeenth and
eighteentl’. The authors comment" interest rates declined during much of the
laser Middle Ages and Renaissance, “The earliest short-term rates quoted were
somewhat higher than the last and highest of the western Roman Legal linits. They
Were nat tao diferent from carly Greek rates and were within the range of
Tahylonian rates... The later Renatssance rates were well within the range of
moder: ates and the lowes were (ar below modern rates in periails of credit
stringency.” Merchants of Venice in Shakespeare tine and lang before barred
room banks, nol frm Shylucks, and al rather lower cost han merchants of the
twentieth centucy.
Economics and Biology
Biocconomics has meant economics informed by biology. 1 argued that this
descrihes much or all of classical economics from Petty through Mill, then lapsed
when the marginalists preferred to do without any explanations or justifications af
tastes, and revived a century later Wo explore Hamilton's rule.
0 istry of oreaesi ates Wotgers, 1996 “Tali 1,
© id. Tables fan 7.
# id Tabled.
id. Tables 1 sd 11.
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1100 reason from biological axioms, and from much the same ones inplicit or
explicit in the classical peviod. But { end up framing ideas of biology in the lauguage
of economics rather than the opposite. | begin with
Total capital = means of ends = means of replication = fitness,
where fitness bs understood as a stack. The concomitant low and rate would be
aut (ervation of fess otal capital) and return (ratio of the ten)
Free growth (heary gave (he inference
optimum ex ante output = optioum controllable output
= exact oftsetof pure consumption, at the collective scale.
Next generation theary specified the period af this exhaust and recavery as the
generation length
Consider Hamilton's rule in this context. All ex ante oulpul. continuing steatily al
the generation rate, must be invested concurrently in the nex! generation or stored
for Later investment within the deadline. {tis the problem of Brewster's millions.
Adults must invest or store as efficiently as practical (the miximind rule) before the
output meaus has slipped by. And the more stored instead, the more pressure to
invest later wichin the deadline. Time lef for investment is another of the practical
constraints on maximization of rhc.
What sense bs a watering down of Haniliares rule ror what seemed Ingical
campulsin a fev decades aga 10 samuthing more like a larget of agparlunity. A
prediction msionizing thc bas proved its value asa useful rule of thumb,
sagged why sume nepotism might be more adaptive ian nar in my reviews of
the Hamillon-Zuk parasite theory. [Us about giving il genes a fair bu speedy (cial.
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The quarterback gets three downs, and the batter ree strikes, before they go back
10 the bench, Some nepotism directs healthier mothers to invest in more and
healthier offspring, and sicker ones conversely, Jong enough to demonstrate which
7cally which. Males passing the test carry the Signs to prove it. Females choose
them to spread the antidote gene to the whole population. 1asing genes and losing
parasites retreat unt thelr tne comes again.
Summary
This chapler Lares my want ecanamist hal for my wannabe bivlagist one.
Herbert Spencer called (nose fields the same al bollom. | never read Spencer, and
know him mosily from Bertrand Russell's hooks on the histocy of philasopby.
Spencer rates subchapter there. Yet he was an autodidact with less training io
cither field than mine. He even had less training in philosophy than mine. He was a
Philosopher al the same, by Russell's tough standards, and knew that logic comes
first. Data eventually prove thelr worth when (Fs the to test. The data I've found
fits net goneratian theory more or less What 1 really have: on, all the while, 1s my
weangabe philasopher hal.
Popperians make no sense. Are we supposed (o find Wal i rose is not a rose? Or (bal
all reasoning from definition is as Lranspient is (hal example? Wiles’ proefol
Fermat's last theorem ended a search that took some pretty bright minds three
centuries. My best guess would be thal Popperians confuse the concepts of logic and
question-begging, Uhey are opposite, Logic {reasoning from definition) means
taking out no more than you put in, Tewism or tautology usually means obvious
examples of the same, but sometimes includes subtle ones too. Questian-hegging
Means taking GUT WHE YoU never put in.
* Circulars s question egg which clans to take ou 3s ference WAS put in 26 assumprion.
Assnmption-hat Socrates 5 3 13n ard fatal ren are mortal dogs nat confity EASE Socracas 5a
an. conte that Sozrates fs mortal 4553s re sour
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Spencer's “survival of the fittest’ doctrine would be a truism if we could prove the
theory of natural causality. We can't by any means known to me. Science takes itasa
working assumption. So did Hume, and 50 do I. f God intervenes only a little, so that
Jaws of nature comes clase to reality most of the time, we're still in business.
My critique of Samillonys rulk proposed Lal apalism nels resistance when iL
canflicts with nepotistic goals af others. 1 prapased a mndus wivend through
agonistic rules. Canillants parasite theory with Zuk, written 18 years later, gives he
game plan.
Nepotist, meaning kin selection through Hanulton's rule, is iu the common interest
104 point. It speeds up proof of best genes to beat the current parasites by testing
female genes as well as male ones. Healthier mothers and sisters and aunts carry
more fitness to invest m more young. And females in most K-selected species,
eluding humans, perform ost care af the offspring and siblings and nepates
{nephews and nieces] that receive 11 Male competition alanc dacs nat determine
hist current genes Uy natures satisfaclinn, Female breeding com pelitian ani
aepolistic investment help prove them farther.
All agonistic rules are boul keeping (he contest fair and deciding when proof is
enough. Long-term success against future as well as current parasites needs most
losers, notall, to go 10 the bench flow frequencies; source demes in iy version)
rather than to extinction. Most losers survived to enter the contest because they
Te Dante is bent ILS i si oding Vie. chs Yok be ta ly conmgivers in
retrial Ach such 5 aie baes.
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were winners once before. Their cost on the bench, or on the taxi squad. is good
insurance.
My version of Hamilton's parasite theory patched in some of Trivers’ ideas. One was
that mothers intuiting selt-hcalth and goad prospects should tend to breed higher
Irimary sex eatios and eanversely, Their male offspring ean then find willing mates
I health carries reliable signs as Damillan proposed. Also the investment af
insurance cast by winners in maintaining losers on he bench can he interpreted as
Trivers’ reciprocal allcuism Lo be recovered when winnecs now become losers later,
My discussion of grandparental investment let still more woras oul of the can. JLis
clear that humans in advanced economies today normally live to nearly three
generation lengths. J proposed that we are replenishing a total capital reserve,
meaning mainly a human capital one, when recovering from hard times in the world
wars and world depression. No one really kmaws.
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CHAPTER 8: BANKS, MONEY AND MACROECONOMICS
Splitting up Banks
I started to write a book on banks and money a year ago. | stopped when | realized
that | don't know enough about the subject. | have some experience and have done
some reading in those fields, but not enough to justifi a whole book. A chapter, or
part of a chapter, is morc like it.
Sumerian temples doubled as banks, nasty far agricultural laans to finance the nest
crap. Tis fim ther recarils, in clay Lahilels, that we know they understood
compound interest and We capitalization formula,
Deposit-and-lend banks as we know them today emerged in Venice and other
European cities in the tweltth and thirteenth cencuries. Chapter 1 said that equicy
investors cannot be attracted at leveeage {eposit/equity) of less than 10:1, that
even one tenth so much leverage is unstable in high winds, and that we rebuild the
banking system after every systemic failure because swe blamed the high winds
rather than Une rickety structure,
said that the solution is ta split up hanks as we: know them into degosit hanks
which invest in FTF un the ane side, aul lending hanks which raise funds from
investors rather than depositors on he other, These entities would have separate
stockholders, aod would not interact unless incidentally.
Adiftercat kind of bane split-up has been urged since the 2008 crash. Repeal of the
Glass-Steagle act had allowed commercial (depositand-lend) banks to aperate as
investment hanks (Brokerage firms). Many blamed the erash on that repeal, and an
investment hank innavations such as mortgage-backed sceurities. {think thase
eritics are ooking in Une wera direction. The: problem, as with mast bank rashes
aver he centuries, was overleverage encouraged by neady cosiless deposits, The
salution is nol Lo peel off brakerags aperatians from the mix, bul Lb peel all epost.
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Tse no reason why lending banks should be separate {rom investment baoks,
Rather the depositors’ money should not be risked in either.
Itis also a mistake to blame Wall Street chicanery. Chicanery is a fact of fte, and
Wall Street has more than its share. But] can testify, from a ringside seat, that many
sound Rnanciors and strate cconamnists genuinely believed in the sub-prime
derivatives they were selling. They were: prose 1s the rusts Tun. Turned therm
die as a business proposition because [saw toa much complexity and no upside
Tut ny react wars thal the presenters were sald themselves
The problem is nol in the people. Us in the inhereal fragility of deposit-andi-lend
banks. Then what would the world be like without them? The answer list needs a
closer look atthe problem.
Credit Risk is More than Leverage
Some leverage is a god thing. Firms issue bands as well as stocks in order to attract
a widur range of investors. Riskeavurst invostars may choase the safely of bonds,
whose interest ulaims are paid first, while visk talerant pres may be happy with the
flier bul mare promising equily remainder. Leverage in general is a way lo salisly
both these constituencies.
Credit risk rises with erm {duration as well as amount of debi, One of the most
telling posits in Siegel's Stocks for the Long Run is that corporate bonds of 15 years
or more have proved more volatile in real total return than equities have. No
wonder. A corparate hond will have ample debt coverage (gross profit/debt service)
at date af issuance, and an appropriate credit rating What will bath be Tifteen years
from now?
Homeawners also lypically borrow Jong-term. They expect 1b have children in local
schaals, husbands andar wives in Tocal jabs, 2nd ather rots in the community. Bul
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who knows that husbands and wives will stl be married in fifteen years? Who
knows that if they are, their careers will not have taken then to another city?
It seems to me that reducing the dangers of debt means reducing both term and
amount, and that the solution had hetter find ways that still accommodate the shart.
term and Inng-tenn needs of finns and people.
Naw let's lank at how deposit hanks might invest
The Omnibus Fund Idea
I were a couple of decades vounger, [would (ry Lo create something ] call an
omnibus fund. It starts by seeming to contradict what just said. | said that fiems
sssue both stocks and bonds to reach different constituencies. The omnibus fund
would first erase that separation. In principle it would reconstruct the firm asa
whole, ar put the picces hack together again, hy assembling proportionate shaves of
the debtand equity clafms an it i a single portiolio.
Suppose fir example hat the market vp (umber of shares mes current market
quotation) for a firm's equity shares is one billion dollars, while Ue market cap ofall
debt claims logether In half tha. Then the omasbus fund, in principle, would buy
each firm's equities and debt insteuments in that proportion at current market
valuation, In practice it could realize the sane effect in a simpler way.
he omnibus tund would be a balanced index fund. Index funds are representative
ofall the funds in an index, such os the S&P 500, weighted again to market cap. The
omnis fund would pick a still more Inclusive index, say the Russell 3000 or even
the Wilshire 5000. 1 would add in a corporate bond Indes, since balanced means
mixing stocks an hands anil cap wright. the tw. The abject would hie lo mare] the
publicly-traded corporate sector asa whole, The simplest way fa gel there would be
10 buy inde ETFs {exchange Leader funds) directly, rather than duplicating their
work of assembling portfolios of the underlying individual issues.
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Ifit stopped at that point, the omnibus fund would probably attract few investors. It
would ofter the aggregate return and risk of the publicity-traded corporate sectoras
fit had never borrowed or issued debt. Aggregate means average. No one is exactly
average. Some like me and my Rather happen ta be mare risk-tolerant, and opt tor
the higher returns that tend ta come froin higher isk. Soine prefer the apposite
Taw ean he omsibus fund alr bath?
The answer is derivatives. Derivatives are abligatians whose henefits depend on
autcames imperfectly foreseen. Tsaid in the forwarsl (al I'm all in Gave of theo so
Tang as we respect and manage the risks. Byuities themselves are he classical
example. Mortgage-backed securities give another, Common forms include futures
and swaps. the idea is about the same. Each typically picks an index, often the St
300. Onc party, the "short leg’, bets so much moncy, the "notional amount”, that the
S&P 500 index will go down tomorrow, Another party, the “lang leg”, bets it will go
up. The shart leg gets so much, say Libor plus 20 basis paints (hundredths ofa
percent] of the notional amour, in any auleome, The lang leg gets the inex change,
whether up or awn, times Ue same notional amount.
Moone actually invests the nolione] amount, Ls called “notional for good reason.
Rather each side (leg) commits a cash reserve, beld by the firm managing the swap
or future, in (his case the omaibus fund itself, of 20% of the notional amount. The
reserve is drawn down to meet payments required when market swings are averse,
and replenished when favorable, When ir talls to 10% of the notional amount, itis
considered unsate and the swap or future ends prematurely. Pacties are warned,
and new reserves can he commited fn time.
Monitaring of the reserve: is continuous during marked hours, Whenever the reserve
falls Lo 10%, even in tbe middle of the day, (be account is closed immediately. This
disciplin Jeteps Lhe niher panty safe
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Risk-averse clients in the omaibus fand can (ake shor legs, and risk-tolerant ones
Toug legs. Management of the omnibus fund can handle the mechanics of the swaps
or futures.
“The effect would be not less leverage per se, since leverage at the individual account
Jewel Is substituted far leverage at the corporate level, The difference fs duration.
Swaas and Futures are short-term cammibments. Three: months is Lypital. Futures
rade: in active markets, for good measure, and can usually be liquidated in seconds
a wuirrent marke during trading hours. So can BTR Uemselves.
#Whal do these derivalives cost? Essentially nothing, Those who prefer safety und
the short leg, are matched with those who prefer return and the long leg, while the
‘manager charges only for its time in working the mechanics,
What About Asset Allocation?
Where the amnibus Rand seems th violate comman sense is in merging out what had
sewed 10 be valuable distinctions. Sa iL wild seem with the blending of equity anid
dub clin, but farm optional wverlay vf derivatives such as futures Lo restore
whalever risk and expected return we sanl. Many distinctions blended oul.
including Ua one, have been important Lo principles of assel allocation and modern
portfolio theory. They ace important because some investment sectors are less
correlated than others, meaning less likely to risk ud fall in lockstep. Low-
correlation porttolios are better because less volatile as a whole without sacrifice of
return. That's why hedge funds typically assemble portfolios judged low or negative
in correlation, and then try to reduce correlation still Farther swith an overlay of
derivatives. The amofbus fund seems to throw away all these options.
Nal really. One of the lessons of the 2006 crash is Ura everything bul Treasuries
tens 10 go down io high winds, Anli-corvelation stralegies failed when we most
nde them. The omnis fund isn really giving up sa much. lls exceptional
diversity makes it begin wilh less correlation han specializing portfolios. And
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nothing would prevent a sophisticated investor in the omnibus fund from
‘manipulating correlation further down with derivatives as hedge funds do.
Liquidity, Risk and Return
Demand deposits in hanks taday can he withdrawn at ang time. Time deposits
cannot he attracted withat either competitive interest ar quick Yguidity. This
Tiguility reapuirement. his been akan in tat bank deposits are usually refined
for years. Arun on the bank soon finds no cash lel t meet withdrawals. The runs
came when the: high winds baw, and provide a coup de grace vn lap of high default
rules.
he omnibus fund meets withdrawals easily because itis invested only in the most
liquid securities, EF trade in soconds at current market quotations. Any mutual
fund shares that might belong to the porttolio trade at curvent close.
ile mast fun, the omnibus fund would alsa mantain cash. 1ike some others, it
wali "equitize” its cash hy exposing iL Lo swaps or futures. Fiitized cash leaves a
fund fully invested in effect while adding instant liquidity aroun the clock. FTPs
sive instant liquidity, bul only during Leading hours, Mutual funds typically trade
macket close only.
Asisk-uverse investor in the omnibus fund who opts for Libor plus so my bisis
Points is more or less in the same position as a bank depositor today. She knows
that her account will grow only by deposits and by interest [Libor plus basis points)
Jeftin to compound. She knows that it will decline only by withdrawals. The investor
who prefers the long leg in swaps or futures, or stays unhedged, will also see her
accaunt rise and fall with the marke There are infinite graduations araund these
thre simple choices. An account might he partly hedge and parlly exposed, or
even over-expiosed W a notional wnount larger (ban Ue dccount size where law and
markets permit. (They usually a)
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PFayaent Mediation
Banks effect payments from depositors’ accounts. An omnibus fund can do the same.
Payments out are directed “redemptions” in the language of brokerage accounts, or
withdrawals in the language of hank accounts, Payments in are “subscriptions” to
brokers and their clients, or deposits to bankers.
All these payments can Ie electranic. A payer, typically a customer, might swipe a
card ar click a screen. A payee, typlally a vendor, typically must verily first that the
account is authentic and overs the payment aller. An omnibus fund could be well
suited Lo give this quick Lransparency.
First, itis essentially an index fund. tis composed of a published ratio of index E1¥s
and index mutual funds and index-equitized cash. Individual accounts ave then
hedged or exposed to index swaps or future overlays administered by the ommibus
fund itself. The fund can track all these indexes online, and knows from tick to tick
what cach account fs worth. This holds ruc even Far volatile accounts where risk
tolerant clients have: opted for lang les in swaps ani futures. So lang as
management effects all payments in an oul, and constructs each account. of index
exposures itself, and racks those exposures and piyenents in ceal lime, it knows
account values exactly.
Risk-tolerant clients will expect daly ups aad downs in account size. Thal means
that they will have to carry larger accounts in order tobe sure of covering payments
in the dovnswings. That would be a problem it accounts vielded zevo return, as
checkahle bank deposits do. The gist of my answer to Milton Friedman was that no
aniount af money 15 too uch I it yields as much rerum as other assets af equal risk.
Accounts anc: hedged or leveraged to do so. Omnis land accounts burn ni ales in
cet We do not pn one a sper, like a checking account, and Leal. it as a drag
an earnings until spent, We own it as « fully competitive investment, and spend i
reluctantly when bills are presented
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Why Invest in Indexes?
The last section showed that index funds offer easy trackability over market hours.
Whatare the other pros and cons?
On saund miceocconamic principle, professional asset management will add value
over Index results before deduction of ees. Otheritse they couldn't stag fn business.
The same princiigle says Ural the fees will converge ta that pre-Tiex value added. Prices
canverges to marginal utili (valuc). investars bid fees up when fecs are less, and
din when they are mare. As rule of thumb, investars shaull expect to do erally
well in mavaged or index accounts when fee costs are tonsideced loo,
The mechanics of convergence is worth a look. Managed and index funds compete in
akind of density-dependent flux like hawks and doves in game theory. It pays to be
a hawk when the hawk/dove ratio is too low, and a dove when too high, When
‘haves have only hawics to fight, they will win only half the time. Fighting becomes a
Jasing strategy when it isis more than winning stands to gain, More daves will
mean easier conlusts.
Sos wilh sel managers. Index funds {doves} avoid commitment lights) as lo
which firms and sectors will outperform, This neutrality saves the costs of research
needed for commitment {tighis). Asset managers (hawks) pay those costs, and
secover bem when oulperformance results, Thil means outperforming (he index.
But ifasset managers collectively managed the whole market; they would become
the index, Some would outpertorm others, but the vehole group cannot outperform
itselt Then it could not recover ts rescarch costs. Many would have to close their
dno. leaving the Held to index funds which don't pay those casts, unt market
equilibrium was restored.
Then whl deterunines equilibrium? Is the critical variable percent of rades hy
managed funds? 1 thought so far a while. Now [ think its percent of AUM (marke.
value of assels under management). My sessoning now is Ul holds by port Coli
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managers reveal informed opinion on securily values as clearly as trades do.
Research cost is the same for both. Ifa manger neither buys nor sells, she tells us
thar she thinks the price is right. The critical variable is not trade volume, bur
percent of aggregate market cap controlled by asset managers collectively.
The number of asset managers is much less critical. There must he enough for
campetition within each specially or sectar of investment. Tou many is nat a
cancer. Abler ones, an micracconomic principle, will displace the less able. That's
why Dlerbert Spencer Laught that natural selection works the same in ecammics ms
in biology.
A particular reason for preferring index ETFs as omuibus fund investments is for
cheaper liquidity, The omusbus fund must compete with banks in accommodating
payments and other withdrawals (redemptions). Popular index EY1s such as
spiders (SPR, for Standard and Poor's Depository Receipts] are baught and sold in
sceands fara fec of a cauple of basis pots. Sa are Treasury ETFs. Thus the onnibus
fund might da bust nat tn include acta corporate bond BTR in reintegrating the
carparate sector, Treasurivs of vual value should do shouLas well at much lower
teadivg cost, Easy liquidity is essential.
Why Omnibus?
Ouoibus means for everyone ius well us of everything, Lis all-inclusive either way.
Individuals differ in risk tolerance, An omnibus fund provides for all The portélio
of index exposures to riskier equity claims and safer debt claims is meant to satisfy
average risk talerance as o whole. Individual accounts then choose short-leg hedges
or long-leg exposuIe or anything between. An omnis portfolio best matches
aggregate risk anit return to individual dlaiims on it
ber approaches would work Loo. A broad-based equity index fund, targeting say
the SEP 500 ar Russell 3000, could give: the same Lick-Lo-tick ansparency in
individual accounts. Hedging would still be available W cater fo individual risk
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appetites wilbis the risk-tolerant groups. A broad-based bond index fund would do
the same for the risk-averse,
It seers to me that the omnibus fund would do both fobs at once, and would attract
‘more clients collectively. Bigger is hetter for payment pracessing, The mare clicats,
the more "two-sired” payments fram ane client to another. These payments are
always cheapest.
Waccaunts cast little or nothing Lo apen, vendirs would logically need no wring fa
pen the, That agin favors the simplicity and economy and immediacy of two
sided payments by including both buyers and sellers wilbin the fund.
the omnibus tund is also for everyone asa javestor as well as a payer. Very tew
people have the time or training to beat the market. | myself have not. What we have
#54 sense of our degree of visicaversion. The omnibus fund gives the broadest and
most exible coverage of risk appetites. It can poll and advise clients on visic
preferences, and mediate hedges and exposures by suil
How the Omnibus Fund Might Evolve
J said tha if} were a couple of decades younger, L would start an omnibus fund. Not
10 worry, Ifthe idea holds water, as | think, someone else will.
Jt seems to me that banks could not offer much competition, Demand deposits
typically pay no interest, and process paynients no better. Omnibus clients offer an
infinite range of returns accarding to clicat tolerance for ist.
Tanks offer the advantage of federal depasit insurance (FDIC). 1 will not be crovgh.
The anaibus fund carries mo leverage, and newls no insurance. Ax it grows, banks
will ike notice, They can keep ws the uneven light, or they can join the parade. My
warking assum pian is hat many will prefiar the Jatier. Ranks are well positioned to
make the most of the idea, They bave Une needed expertise and systems and
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clientele in place, They can spin off their leoding opecalions as separate ventures 1o
find funds from investors rather than depositors,
IEthere were ho FDIC, there would he 10 deposits and no commercial banks. People
canead the newspapers. Anyone old enough has lived through periodic bailouts.
Tina free market fan sho dislikes FDIC. But we would he rash ta yank the rag from
wnder binks by repealing it We shouldn't eve hint tha se might. The world we
Knows is build araund hanks, and banks are built on FDIC. Lot It stand. Tass can
anyone know for sure that wrmnibus funds ani independent losing banks vill di
etter? think amanibus funds gare (0 win despite that advantage for biriks
Lending Banks
This is the area least clear to me. Banks as we know them begin with expertise,
systems and clientele in the loans business as well as the deposit and payment
Jrocessing business. That could pasition them to take the lead in bath if spun off
separately. fending can stand alone. There are many lending ms other than banks.
They raise funds from investars seeking returns, rather than depositors seeking
Tiguidity, and somehow ange li compets with hanks day. Lending banks
divorced from depositors could lo whatever they do.
IEinterest rates must rise because investors demand competitive returns, some
ditional borrowers will be motivated to arc equity investment instead.
Corporations and other firms could phase out structural {long-terun) debt, and float
new stock issues in its place. The effect would be to lower leverage, risk and return
together. Investors could then tailor risk and retam more Hexibly by hedging or
Jeweraging their individual holdings through professional services.
the seme vise in inturest rates makes it impractical for newlyweds la buy homes,
they can rent until their means improve. In ten or fleen years their incomes will
diuble. They will kin iT they are still marrival, how much house they wed if sa,
aol where theiv carvers have taken them, Meanwhile they might rent the same
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house they would have bought, They will uot have missed 4 sure-fire lavestment.
The crash of 2008 showed that houses are risky too. The time to commit to huge and
liquid investments, as houses are, is after ten ar fifteen years of business
experience.
1sec no reasan why lending hanks should not make equity frvestinents too. foans,
canvertible loans amd enity investments newd the same dus diligence, or research
Into prospects of success and ret, All night serve the same clients. "Lending
hanks igh simply bee investment banks. That's why splitting af invest ment banks
aol commercial (deposit-and-lend) banks ay be 1 step in the wrong diceddion, The
key is spilling off deposils.
Macroeconomics in General
Splitting up commercial banks into omnibus funds and depositless lending banks
could change the nature of macroeconomics. Macro has meant the art of maintaining
growth and money value stability at the same tine. This has proved mostly a
tightrope wealk between inflation and recession. Tasy money risks thi first, and tight
money the second, My ile is Wo disconect the problems of underemployment and
‘money value instability. [l oedicine for one has no side effect on the other, each can
be treated more (reely.
J would fsst dissociate money value (rom money supply. No supply is Loo Jarge if
money earns competitive returns while we hold it, that was ote of the main ideas of
the omuibus fund. Milton Friedman thought wy carly version of this idea was
anathema. Franco Modigliani liked it ine, but asked tough questions. 111 try to
answer some af them helow.
My approach Ls the prablems af underemployment am Ue business cycle begins
wilh phissing oul depusil-and-lead hanks as { described. | more ar less wgeee with
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Ludwig von Mises and (he Austrian school thal slumps come from overinvestment
enabled by overlending. In 19281, a year before the crash, Mises wrote:
Sour ar later, the tris wust inevitably break nut as the resulL nl change i the
comtuet uf the banks. The later the erack-up comes, Ue koner the period in which
the calculation of the entrepreneurs s misguided by the tssue of additional dduciary
edias The greater this addional quantiey of fiduciary money. the tore feetors of
production have been fal committed oy the forur of investments which appeared
profitable nly hecause af the artificially Tecuced interest rate.and which prove tn
be unprofitable... Great Insses are sustained as result of isdivectad capital
imestments. Many new structures remain unfinished. Others, already campleted,
clnse down operations. Sill others are carried in because, after writing of losses
wehich represcut a waste ol capital, vpevation of Ure caisting structure pays atleast
something
Here Mises, writing in 1928, describes the crash of 2008 even more vividly than the
one in 1929, "Many new structures remain unfinished. Others, already completed,
clase down aperatians.” These were mostly plant and office buildings i 1929, and
mostly houses in 2005.
Mises argued that ney should be backed by precious metals. Te was right in
thinking hat it should be Backed, But precious meals pay na reture. The omits
fund exrus competitive elurn al the risk level chusen In each account. Accounts wre
awened for performance, and only incidentally for liquidity. No amount is so large as
10 tempt overspending.
It did not accur to Mises that divorcement of deposits from lending might prevent
the cycle in the frst place. Nar did he mention the danger of 10:1 hank leverage, and
often mare, in amplifying consequences of har gasses. is idea was better
governance af commercial banks. Mine is ending them
Free prowlh eary iso belongs lo macroeconomics in that it predicts only at the
collective scale, (t predicts that ex ante net investment, or attempted investment
Souci Stabisciion wt (yetcal Pic.
= lucked paper maw er. Ako 616d gocemment fo moves.
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beyoud depreciation recovery, is simply less consumption wilh no rowih (0 show
for it, My charts and tables shove that this bas been true wherever and whenever
tested, in cight economies over 40 to 140 years, We crowd our niches lke other
creatures, | Think, and have no 100i for growth except as innovation widens the
niche. The charts and tables seem to tell us that novation costs no more in failure
yates and learning curves that dafly caping docs.
Macroeconomics and Keynes
Magn emerged in the 1930s under the influence af Keynes. Simon Kuznets, the chief!
acehitect of the U.S, national accounts, was one of the five economists Keynes invited
10 proof he chapters of is Geaeral Theory as he wrote lem’. National accounts
were soon reorganized along Keynesian lines.
“fo read the General Theory, a beautiful work, one vould think that counter opinions
were led by his close friend Arthur Pigou. But Pigou was arcady in print with
vecommendations much like Keynes’ sehen (twas published in 1936. Opposition
came rather from Mises, the ther Austrians, Liane) Robbins ani the Chicago school.
They argued Ul intervention ends W make ings warse. So tla many econpmists
today. Keynes helieved in fiscal and monetary policy as I describe in Chipler 1. He
favored fiscal policy.
Chapter 2 said hit be made a basic distinction between investment producing new
things and repurchase of things already produced. Only the first counted as real
investment. The difference matters because only the first puts plant and people to
work. Transters neither add nor subteact value. ven so, my own language counts all
as fnvestment, and ranks (vestment anly by rerun. 1 make no distinction among
Ineestmentadding new plant and equipment, ar nvestinent in stacks and honds
alvealy issued, or in wxisting structures, areven under he mattress
The overs sere lard, Seat, Jow Hohimsar: and Raph | ase.
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What matters is return, I dont have lo specify “risk-adjusted” return so long ss |
describe the collective scale alone. Collective return is implicitly average-isk return,
J prioritize it on the reasoniug that optimizing employment ot people and plant is
imuplicit, and that optimizing micans Putting them to work most productively rather
than over the most hours.
I policy masini rate of return, al the collective scale, 1Lwill maximize true aut.
perforce. Return bs output divided hy total capital producing it: Mare return Is more
outpul ger writ capital. Pulling idle plant and praple la work, in a slam, is a ste in
he right direction. Fut it dues gel the job dane unless they work productively:
Even pulling money under the mailress is beller thaw investing il a loss. Zero
return is better than negative return. | accept Keynes’ distinction between new
investment and transfer payments. But | see the latter as part of the mechanics that
ends up in the tomer. Maximize return, aud full enployment will happen,
Keynes” appasitian is now mostly the Chicago school and ather “freshwater” schools
Tredering Une Great Lukes and along inland rivers. Samehow the taste: or Keynesian
intervention resonated best in “saltwater” seaboard school such as Tlarvard, MIT,
Stanford, and University of California. Tis probably no coincidence thal the
saltwater states are the “blue anes (ending Lo vote Democral, while the freshwater
ones are the "ced" ones favoring Republicans. (1 call myself a free macket Democrat,
whether or nol that's a contradiction in ers.) Freshwater views lend to oppose
intervention, but accept Keynesian basic definitions acd equations such as the
Y= 1+ doctrive aud the distinction between “attempted saving and fvestment.
Itis these 1 question.
Tort think much af his vies that intended saving (cansumption faregane)
Becomes actual saving only if invested, and homes an equal amount of ghysical
capital growh if itis. Then (actual) nel saving, nel investment and physical capital
growth would become synanymaus. Txaid why 1 prefer language where saving
aol investment are synonymous in the first place, Whal matters is cule of relurn.
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Jnvestment (saving) under the mattress yields only the psychic value of liquidity.
Actual capital growth depends on rate of return as much 3s amount invested. If
return bolds the same as it was before, growth and net ex ante investment will be
equal. Growth vill be less than consumption foregone (remembering the asterisks)
return drops, and mare if return vises.
Keynes saw shuns ss invwstiment defi, Use therm as rutin deficits, Keynes
assumed uncritically, 1 think, that new investment is the path out of slumps
Investment will come shen prispedts of retura do.
Although the General Theory was published three years before Myrdal's ex ante - ex
post distinction. Kevnes would have realized the same thing. think be made the
understandable mistake of supposing that the difference would balance out as
random noise. The eharts and tables show otherwise. The optimum ex ants
investment target is enaugh to offset realistic depreciation exactly.
Wetynues was a great Uhindker, a lively writer and a decent man, Uiappen to endorse
some af is policy ideas. So dil my father Wien © asked hit what he Unought of
fiscal policy, T expected something Like Havelrer's “crowing oul” argument:
government investment preempls and prevents privale investment. | gol a surprise.
My father said "When people are out of work, that's the time to build 2 new post
office.” [Ls, if you need a new post oflice, because returns can be higher when
contractors strapped for options bid construction cost down.
But itis no disrespect to point that the General Theory was published 80 years aga.
tend to SUPPOTE Keynes on some points, for example the uselalness of fiscal policy in
relieving shims, but Lo agree mostly with Mises an hele causes in the fist place.
Where 1iffer from bath is in Use fundamental anataeny.
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Stabilizing Money Value
Modigliani's main critique was that money earning full competitive return, so that
no amount was too much, would make monetary policy impossible in its usual
forms. My best answer af the tine was that full-returm money ought to remove
inflationary or deflationary pressures. But | agreed with him that money value
might drift, cven so, and that same cantrol would bea safeguard if sameane could
think nla way.
The hist that neers fo me is continus revaluation of the dollar. Legal Leader las
specify dollars, or other warrency in other counteivs, as he defaull means of
‘payment recognize in salislying money obligations, Laws could be changed lo
specify real dollars instead. Rea] mews corrected for inflation or deflation.
“this would have been impractical before the information age. The problem now
scems less. Spendable money, called M1, now means carrency plus checking
accaunts. Goverament publishes current inflation figures online. Ouniibus cepts
could anus automatically. They might shaw values in nominal and real dollars both
Aeount value would not change. Correaian fr inflation would show fewer dallas
worth more ach, Correction for deflation would show (he opposite.
Currency itself canuot adjust so elegantly. It would remain legal tender, but not
necessarily a fice value. Currency would impose a translation cost on its spenders
and receivers. Say for example that the change in legal tender laws was effective as
of January 1, 2020. The real value of the dollar, whether accounts or currency, would
mean its value of that baseline. Nominal value ould be that plas inflation since.
Calewlators or tPads could keep track of the conversion rate. The cast and nuisance
of this conversion shoult he manageable. Tut it would prabably reduce demand far
currency where canis or the equivalent do as well, The benefits in encouraging
Jang-lerm contracts wd saving "menu change costs.” Thal means costs of changing
prices. There is na nel Lo change them on acount of inflation if prices are spec fed
in real rather thin nominal dollars.
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Price stability can eater, The United States his managed Wo avoid double-digit
inflation since the Volker reforms of the 1980s. But the danger remains. Modigliani
was right to worry.
Alaw making real dollars legal tender might prompt better measurements of
inflation. Many cconamists agece that aur offical mies overstate inflatian by
allawing Lo ile for quality improvements. A Lexus ar Testa bs mola Madel 4. That
was the theme of the Baskin Cammission report to President Clintan in 1995. The
Taskin panel argued thal quality-corrected inflation es run abot 11% less an
the numbers posted in the consumer price index (CPT). 1 think so tao, But making
sed dollars legal lender, even by these imperfect measures, could still give more
confidence in long-term commitments thi the status quo.
Speeding Up Fiscal Policy
Designating real rather than naminal dollars as legal tender would amount to an
amfaniiliar and more direct farm of monetary policy. Meanwhile devolution af hanks
into thei separa: degositand lending functions, along with emergence nf amnibus
nds, need put no constants on fiscal palicy.
Fiscal policy his prescribed Ls cuts aod government spending in slumps. It
prescribes the opposite, at least in principle, i booms. A problem is that it has
proved slow Lo implement, There is ws “inside lag” while government diagnoses the
problem and calls tor a vote in the legislature. An “outside lag" follows until taxes
come duc and spending programs ave put together and gradually put plant and
peaple to work.
The Insti lag Is unavoidable in a demacracy unless the executive branch, or an
indepenient agency ike the Fer, is given standing limited authority ta diagnose
early signs ol uvemployment, and to address er with Lax tls ov spendiog, And
thre must bee enough au tsi ag, Uo make sure that the medicine has goo
Prospects in rale of return, Retuco comes first,
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Tax cuts can be Easter-acting than spending programs because they obviate the
construction period. lreshwater economists argue plausibly that they are likely to
prove ineffective. They foresee "rational expectations” of taxpayers as predicting
eventual restoration of the taxes when full caployment resumes. This gives a
Motive fa save the Tax cut rather than spend ft as tended. 1 see ita little differently.
Most cans mptiar is maintenance or investment lo keep up human capital. We will
need that canning passer when taxes are restored.
say's Law
Jean Bapliste Say, in veritings | haven't read, argued two centuries ago hal supply
creates its own demand. The logic is sound to a point. I'he claims on output simplify
t0 pay plus profit The asterisks don't matter here. Thus pay plus profit is always
enough to clear that market. There could be "partial gluts" when we produced too
much of one thing and not enough of another, hut nevera “general glut” where
Iaduction got ahead of our cans th pay far it.
A110 truv. Consumption plus investment walk pay plus profil. But the sad fact is
thal profit can be negative. Deadweight loss happens. When it happens al (ke
collective scale, even pay claims may be Jeft unsatisfied. Say's law gives no comfort
except where outcomes ave as expected.
‘tax Considerations
Schultz in 1962 argued that educational (human) capital is overtaxed. What bie
wrote was: "The established tax treatment takes account of both depreciation and
ahsolescence in the case of physical capital, but this accounting fs not extended to
Imma capital”. fle was eight. ncorne Gx is charged on ne profit of Trans and pay of
warkers. Pay measures grass realized work including human depreciation.
Tax aves rw counter thal imbalance by applying laser les Lo ay as "eared
income”, If we could measure human depreciation, or model iL wilh enough
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confidence, we would know how much correction wis enough, That's 4 reason lo
take depreciation theory seriously.
Market-Valued Capital in Macroeconomics
Another reason why macro should he recanceived from scratch is that its defining
equatians, written mastly over hall a century aga, leave aut cayital. Change In capital
shows as nek investment, but capital itself stays wlside, Flaws are considers]
sufficent for description.
Piketty, a good ecanansic bistarian, Lells us Ural this did not have to be, [seems (al
the largest economies hid good records of markel-valued capital since the late-
‘middle nineteenth century. Viketty does not speculate why macro aod national
accounts ignored them when both took form i the 1920s and 1930s.
Physical capital and its changes can he measured at market or calculated by the
Derpetal inventory method used in balance sheets. {showed in Chapter 2 why that
mutha i nol the best. Depreciation accounting assumes norms in the loss of pital
value with ime, and gets the news of actual autcomes longer, National accounts
reported pusilive rea nel investment, meaning growlh in capitel value, in 1929,
1930, 1937 aud 2008, They give ile clue (o reallly in years of surprise.
“The neglect of markel-valued capital in micro wad the mations] accounts until 1990
or so may have to do with the influence of Keynes. The General Theory includes
some hilarious broadsides on the fickleness of market speculators. He put more
trust in the sober disciplines of accounting, Piketty trusts the market more, and so
dol
Ther why tows Pikelly track new investment, or diange in capital, by the accounting
methods used in national atcounts? Thal seems inconsistent, My chits and lables
track lat marked. [Uses 1a me iat nalivmal accounts shal tack it bith ways,
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od let each economist decide which version is more useful, Mine, a least, correctly
describes those same four years as losing ones.
National Accounts Overall
It seems to me that national accounts are doing nathing wrang except in modeling
the depreciation curve from misleading sales evidence. Rvidence secnns to shaw:
depreciation as Fast al frst, and slower later. Thal tends ba be Lrue she depreciable
assets are actually sold. Structures tend to be customized for thelr ariginal pemers
aml occupants. They fend fo be resald when results are disappointing, This
disppointinent often comes when expectations are first Leste, When distressed
sellers marke! illiquid structures customized for themselves, prices loo will be
disappointing.
Better to trust cvidence of structures intended in the fiest place to pass rom owner:
to ovmer, as with many standardized rather than customized apartment and office
and warehause buildings. Better still, fram an economists viewpatat if not an
accountants, is W Lrust Ingic. Capital is prosent value of expected cash flaw, Ls loss
af value with Lime, under simplifying assumptions, is Uhe present value af the mast
distant and most discounted cash flow. Depreciation of structures we keep, rather
than sell, is least at rst and greatest a the end. 1 is be same as with a level
payment mortgage.
National accounts are nonetheless a magnificent achievement. They need
interpretation ust as corporate accounts do. That's where economies comes in. And
national accounts are not resting on past practices. They can be congratulated on
neluding market valued capital, even JE sixty years to late, and on extrapolating it
Nackvard where practical. This hook could scarcely have: heen written if they hadn't
Twould recommend the ohviaus next step. Yel investmenl should be shown
alteratively as change in mickel-valued, and autpul as Ural plus consumption, Let
ecanomists decidk which version is gaod for whal.
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National Wealth Including Human Capital
By definition, pure consumption rate is pure consumption divided by total capital.
this can be arranged as
total capital = DUE CONSUMpOn 81)
Juve consumption tate
Nest generation theary mardcled the pure consumption vate as 3.5% per year.
Mistorical data shawn dividend amd interest rates spore ar less in his gan
since Sumerian mes. | model pure consumption as boul three fourths of ll
consumption. I take consumplion ss personal consumplion expenditure (PCE) plus
government consumption expenditure (GCE) per Ue national accounts.
GUE includes government outlays, al all levels of government, on education and
welfare. These are easily recognized as consumption. Lt also includes costs of a
enforcement, natianal defense, ire control, and maintenance of infrastructure such
a5 highways and water systems and government buildings. These too count as
camsumption, even if rc mightn't have thought so. They arc part af the cast af aur
survival. That's why 1 agree with Kuznots and tradition, although | didn't aba,
thal consumption includes all of GCF.
PCE in 2015 shows as $12.12 trillion. GCE is reported al $2.3453 rillion. Both are
im 2015 dollars. their sum is $15.4143 trillion. Three fourths of thats $11.26
wilion. Then (8.4) gives
total capita] = PUEConsumption | SLLAN 74 pypign,
Pure consumptionrate 035, year
in 2015 dlls. This vaugh estimate can be borne in mind when se evaluate te x
base and the risk of national debt. US. public and private debt together has been
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estimated at litte Less than a fourth of this sum. My impression is thal this
exposure is not yet dangerous. But it needs watching.
‘the best method to estimate aggregate adult human capital separately is ezty’s. It
is present value of future human eash flow. That means pay less invested
cansumption. IF Cam vight, meaning that Gare, Marshall and Kiker are wrong,
invested consumption is negligible ambng adults. Then Pelly was right lo capitalize
Jay with no deduction. And he was right to capitalize aggregate current pay, with no
aed Wo pce the future, Growth of pay wil Lend Ly match growth of human capital.
The discount cate Us find its present value is expected rated vf return. Rate of return
ss growl rie plus cesh flow rate, Evaluating buunan capital as constant current pay
discounted by cash flow rate alone will give the same answer us if we modeled in
expected pay growth, but then discounted at cash flow rate plus the same projocted
growth rate.
Total human capital is adult capital plus that of the young, That part might he
musasureed al current cast, | wan'Ualompl either of thase calculations her, sings
they seem Lo cll for vepnomists kxpert in inter prwting mations] accounts.
a Do List
Books and papers on economics tend to lead to “policy prescriptions”, That means
recommendations on wehial governments and mickets and educators should do. My
list begins vith getting rid of the double tax on dividends, To get democrats on
board, make the effect revenue neutral by raising the corporate tax rate. Dividend
rates have been far tao lows for about 30 years now. They should average 5% to 6%
real, as they did fn the nineteenth century. The result of low dividents has heen
dangerous pveriivestimnt in the private sector, with grawih hampered rather than
enhancer. Charts and lables make iL dear that ex ants investment beyond
depreciation recovery is deadweight loss.
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Twvould Lax capital gains ss much as ordinary income for the same reason, Level be
playing field. Solow saw: most of the truth, but didn't go far enough. ll saw more.
And even Mill stopped short, All we have to do is Jook at the charts and tables.
Capital accumulation docs not exist, Ay aTEempt lowers consumption vith no
growth to show for it
Keep rack of matical wealth including human cagiial by my method here, aml alsa
hy Pet's af 1664, 1676 and 1605. What would we think of corporate management
thal added up nly Lhe smaller part of corgorate assels? We now cansider physical
capita) only. Political parties debate whl tases and the ational debt should be
without the key facts.
Policy prescriptions can also aim at schools and what they teach, Macroeconomics
should start over. It reached most of its present form in the "years of high theory”, in
the 1920s through 1950s, without the concepts of human capital ar market-valued
capital. itis founded on the accurate: Y = € + 1 equation and the concamitant heliet
thal output equals pay plus profit IL recognizes ex ante = x post distintians anly
crudely as 10 saving, hy taking Las wither invested or uninvested, and nol at al as lo
investment itself. By missing the lag between make! effects and book reaction. it
‘misreads some of our worst years as our best and conversely.
“the path forward is omoibus funds and devolution of commercial bunks. Bank
reform along the lines | suggested should need no help from lawmakers, But for
gosh sakes, lets not set up barriers against ir. Commercial banks and 10:1 leverage
make slamps inevitable. Crashes are as sure as death and taxes until we phase them
out
Summary.
Mateo has meant a lightrope walk between the risks of inflation and recession, Thal
dies’ have 10 be. The problems are detachable. Rven today, 1 shall be practical
fo redefine legal lender as real or inflation-corrected dollars. But (be deeper
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solution is to devolve commercial banks into their separate deposit and lending
functions, with separate stockholders and aul incidental interaction.
tis best far the free market ta do this alone. The amnibus Fang could be the decisive
pvatian. (toa fs passiblc today. It would offer clients full competitive retin, so
tha. no supply wall be Loa large. TLavaud match bank deposits in ligidity and
payment services with the Jaw service charges typical af other Indes Funds, while
tailoring risk and reburn bo dient needs with essentially costliss ilerivalives, The
intention sould be uhsolescence of bank ascaunts, and devolution of banks in resull
Deposit-and-lend banks, inevitably leveraged at 10:1 or more, are the weak link
explaining economic collapses about once a generation since the syste was
founded in the Renaissance. Misdoeds and misgucsses and world events were only
the proximate cause. Chicancey will he with us farever. Honest bad judgment will be
with us forever. Supply shoeks, as when OPEC raised afl prices in 1973, will be with
us Forever, Wars will bes with us frever. Setbacks for aur Lrading partners will be
wilh us forever, These bring the high winds. Tons farvswe mach payout in frying lo
dial down the winds hy upgrading bumin nature, The payout is in stabler siructures.
“the big bad wolf buffed and puffed, and the brick house stood, Omnibus funds will
carry no leverage. Accounts Unemselyes will be levered to laste, bul for short periods
only. Futures trade in seconds. The fund as a whole cacnot become worthless until
cach and every security in its portfolio does. High winds and leverage can wipe out
the accounts of risk-takers who chose the lang leg, hut not of those wha opted for
camtractual interest and safety. That's as it should he. Risk-talers may name their
potsan. Omnibus mans farall, and all-inclusive,
Derivatives are cenlra) lo the omnibus fund idea. Some see them 4s dangerous, They
canbe. They are pase ful. Bul they have a good La record of perfarming as
cantracted, Cash reserves, called micgins, have proved enough Lo escape default
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even in 2008 und (he lsh crssh of 2013, Short legs hive been protected withou fail
and long legs have got what they bargained for. The reason is that margin
sufficiency is monitored trom tick to tick, Checking every few seconds doesn't rule
out every doomsday scenario, but gives about as much confidence as we're going to
find in this uncertain world
Saltwater ard freshwater sehiols debate Une wisdom of sal and monetary palicy.
Tt both sides frame their arguments in Keynesian language. | fd it wanting, The
ida hal intended consumption is wither invested pr nal, and realized in equal
capital growth if is, misses the essential mechanics. [L measures employment of
slant and people in hours rather than in production. This is « good reason why
macro should start again from scratch. Another is 10 recast its basis equations in
terns of market-valued capital as well as Hows. Another is to accommodate buman
capital for example by substituting the pay and Y rules tor the doctrines that pay
measures work and that output is investment plus consumption.
Nane wf those oar reasons refers Lo Une psibilty of amnibus funds, They are anly
a glkarn in my eye. Tey tome pass, and succeed ws imagine, macro will have
still more navelly Uo digest. If Urey lead to devolution into serrate deposit ail
Tending banks, with te deposit banks operating «s omnibus funds, good riddance lo
the L0:1 leverage that has brought down economies every generation or so since
Marco Lola's lime.
The Jagged flow method of assessing cfticacy of ex ento investment is outdated by
the simultaneous rates ane outlined in Chapter 4. It should go to honorable
retirement whenever market-valued capital is avaiable. Ie superimposes the
Inevitable unintended lag of accounts themselves, even under hest practices, onto
thw intended wav newled for the ness Lee planted W bear fruit. Ruth lags blur
causality.
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Some famous economists are Wougher on the current state of macro han (am.
Recent books argue that it should no longer be taught, and should receive no Nobel
prizes. My diagaosis is about the same. But my prescription is opposite. leconceive
strom seratch, and teach it ight, Award Nobel prizes to those who help. My fist
nominees would be Piketty and Zucman. Not that think much of Piketty’s
arguinents But his website with Zuicman is as pawerful a new resource far
scholarship and Une datatiase as national accounts were eight decals go.
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CHAPTER 9: SO WHAT'S NEW?
To claim originality in wy field is rash. [Us safer lo say thal some things in (his book
ave new as far as 1 know. know at least what | can't remember reading elsewhere, |
am more confident in judging what wil surprise in the sexse of conflict with what is
taught today. There we need anly keep up with the current conversation. judging
originality with confidence means having read everything botare.
My surprises were nat all new. and my novelties {il such) where nota surprises. 4
few ides met both descriptions. They pay rule, and the equally heretical Y rule,
‘probably count as both although Becker came within a step of gelling there first,
Depreciation theary is likely to be both. Uther possible candidates might include my
observation that holds by money managers reveal prices as clearly as trades do, and.
my hawks-aud-doves analogy inferring from this that index funds should
outperform managed ones when aggregate AUM held by money managers, not
trades by them, exceeds a critical percentage of the market to be determined. There
nay also be hath surprise and navelty in my suggestion of monetary policy by
establishment of real dollars as legal tender. Tn my wannahe hialogist role, 1 just
may hive bon fest fo the point oul the gall in the math a Hamilton's rule.
Froe growth theory takes Mill a litle farther by ruling out growth by thrift al the
collective scale, should prove 3 cnajor surprise lo lawmakers, who incentivize
thrift in the name of growth, and a milder one to economists already prepared by
the msights of Solow. My possible originality here was in the simultancous cates
equations | derived to test them, and the test itself accessing data for market-volued
capital as well as consumption from the Piketty. Zueman website. My definitions of
market-valued net investinent and net sutput, substituting for the book-valued
wersians used in national accounts, were essential for testing | suppose these rank
as Haveltics but nat surprises.
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The advantage of the simultaneous rates test over (he standurd lagged flows one is
great, It avoids both lags, meaning the intended one to allow more capital to show
sts effect in more output, and the unintended one in the inherent unresponsiveness
oF accounts to market citects on capital already booked, while also gaining from the
superiority of market measures of capital growth over baok ones even when lags
end. The method Itself is na surprise because the math is high schan) algebra. The
shock is in what it reveals. Sul and Denisin were righter than they knew. There is
wo such thing as capital accumulation at the collective scale.
Risk teary is probably both margioal novell ani macyinal surprise. The part thal
‘might be new, alllough obvious in retrospect, is (bal assets luke on (he risk
characteristics of their owners. We knew all along that people buy assets to lit their
own risk profiles. There may be novelty in my idea that it works the same in the
opposite direction. Assets once acquived ave modified to tt those profiles better. A
family hae bought by a drug dealer might become a crack haus bringing higher
expected rerum at higher risk af canfiscation by authorities
The next step ss 1 connect risk profiles with age and gender, 1 sews voll
estublished thal risk (olernte peaks in he eens aod Lwenlies, particularly in males.
I drops steadily alterward for both sexes. R.A Fisher in 1930, und Bob Trivers in
1972, suggested why. Males, io humans, produce thousands of cheap sperm.
Females produce eggs. which are few and expensive because they are packed wilh
nutrients. Young males might ead up leaving dozens of offsprivg or none, Nature
arranges competition to determine which. lemales ave reasonably sure to leave a
few. They have less to compete about. As bath sexes get past their 20s, their
remaining reproductive chances grow fewer and competitive ranking clearer. There
Is Joss ta compete abaut. Risk tolerance grades steadily down with age, and capital
wre reflect the change with Tower risk and velurn, This gives the basic theme.
The next key information was tal human capital is owned disprapartionately by
the young, We own little else until independence al age 20 or so. Physical capital
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builds fron (ben on, and peaks near retirement, Bul human capital arows quickly in
the 205 and thirties too, as most human and other depreciation is concentrated
toward the end. These are persuasive reasons to think that buman capital is the
riskier and higher-return factor overall,
The arganient becomes complicated in that most investment in us before
independence comes from parents rather tan from sell nvester work, Parents
havea a sirang say in what risks children run, so that parental risk tolerance
governs Lio. Mui iL governs mosk in pre-teen years, when parents themselves are
passing through their own risk tolerance peaks. And human capital is probably (he
‘most versitile of issels in adjustment Lo our lustes for risk al the lime. Cops can
become robbers at will, and robbers can get religion.
We should not slip into the ceror of concluding that an individual's human capital is
viskicr than her physical capital at the same time. Both adjust to her current risk
profile alike. That's why the parable of the bass and her secretary falsifics the notion
thal ay eompunsaless realized work and nothing else. Thal wuld make return of
ead in her burman capital a litle aver 100% per ay al the start of Une as day, and
100% per second it the start of the last second, even while their security port folios
reveal their time preference rules as a (ew percent per year, Human capilal is not
inberently risker, as hand grenades than nerfballs. Each cohort adapts all its wealth
ofboth (actors, counting balanced security portlolios as single wssets, lo its single
chacacteristic risk profile, There may be novelty, but not tuch surprise, in this
projection of the owner onto the asset rather than conversely.
“That parable helped contiem the pay rule and explain age-wage profiles. (t brought
another surprise alang the way. [grew up being Lold that houses are safc:
imvestments. But in Fact Uney are awed by about the same age group and gener
mix thal owns the business sector, The publicly traded corporate sector is a part of
the business sector hat has given up return for safiy by providing instant liquidity
fo shrehalders, The notion bial houses are safe (ook a punch in the gut in 2008, The
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notion tha they ever were rests prety much on evidence bolstered by government
subsidies such as FHA and FNMA and EMAC which began before | was born. As itis, |
don't sce enough evidence either way to assert whether houses or the publicly
traded corporate sector, cap-weighting its stock and bonds, should be risker. But
even that uncortainly is a surprise in view of what vee all were taught.
Depreciation Unry is ane of my Favorites. IL doesn'L upset the applecart as much as
the pay rule dacs, because litle ccanamic thears depends on ft 1 love it because it
reverses Lradition precisely. Natianal accounts mae] depreciation as declining
expanentially. [model iL us rising exponentially. Is the same vguation with a pus
sign in place of a minus sign. [love its obviousness once we think boul iL (L follows
when we remember the present value cule. Once we do, evidence for both factors
‘makes more seuse. Depreciation theory rounds out the pay rule in explaining how
pay can vise or hold steady to the very end. And we see the same in businesses.
Gross realized profit, analogous to pay, docs not tend ta decline as Hrms approach a
date with the wrecking hall. My inpressian has heen that rents gn down when
properties aren’Ukept up wr locations became unfashionable, but nat with age in
itself. When it's time Lo demolish aod rebuild, premises are more typically vacated
wilh trade sill running 4 norms, Gross realized profil is inevitably all depreciation
on the Lust day, and would approach zero steadily if tradition were right.
“There my have been mivor novelly in ty derivation of my (ree fundamental
theorems as at least subjective certitudes following from definitions, and in ty idea
tsclt of subjective as distinet from empirical certitude. A subjective certitude is one
such that contrary evidence would falsity the convergence axioms. | have found little
or no empirical certitude past the cogito. | concede that the idea of subjective
cartitude bs impertinent. Taw fare we infor what people mist think?
We dure when we infer from definitions. T began with the somewhal unusual
definition uf capital (value) as perceived means foreseen laste satisfactions. The
usual “means of production” is equally valid, but less suited lo my purpose here. |
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then pictured a furs instants worth of expected satisfaction. Its perceived value al
that future moment would give its perceived value now save for ditferences
explained by the time gap between. | adopted the old terns time preference or time
discount rate to account for whatever they might be. There was no assumption as to
whether the rate should prave positive or negative or zero, nar that the same rate
should apply to other future fnstants. My goal was 10 leave nat even the farthest-
etahied of Taophiles. TT have succeeded, the present value rule filluved as
subjective certitude giving exact expectations, thaugh not outcomes, fir each future
instant andl Uns far all together: Note thal my depreciation theory foflaws, bul with
th cave at the version Thicve shown adds the usual nssumplion a lime
preference is posilive, Thi partis nol certitude, allbough neither are we likely lo
doubt
Itveas not hard to derive the maximand rule as the nex: step. Once we define tastes
or more generally aims as whatever behavior reveals, the rest follows quickly.
{Remember that 1 have na problem with mymally circular definitions.)
Therw were probably a few heuristic novelties, The parable of the has and er
secretary might ilsell be new. So might tbe slave paradox with its parable of Phil and
Bill Many including Adam Smith have pointed oul economic inefficiencies in slavery,
‘moral criticism aside. | can't recall mention of this most obvious one, Bill's
‘maintenance consumplion was Laste-salisfying cash low to Bill and capitalized in
his present value to himself, tis pure expense to Phil once bill is enslaved. all but
one of us vere enslaved by the one lef, national output would drop by substantially
all maintenance consumption on the boaks of the one slaveawmer.
There may also be minor anvelty in ny analogy between accounting for the firm and
accounting for human capital in Chapter 6. One possible wxam ple is my use of the
teem “decapilalization” 0 include depletion and liquidation in sale as well as
depreciation. Tt simylifies fo depreciation in the cask of human capital because that
factor cannol be alienated in reinvestment or ill ar sile, One inference was thal
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deadweight loss, negative owpul, negtive realized ouput aod unsecoversd
decapitalization all tean the same. This is obvious enough, but may have been left
implicit before,
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CHAPTER 10: THREE PANTHEONS
A few weeks ago | was being interviewed about ty opera "Usher House”, How
would 1 like to be remembered? With a straight face, {said I would like to be thought
the best composer since Mahler, the hest poet since Masefield, and the best
economist since John Stuart Mill. The interviewer looked startled. Was she talking
instead ta the successor of Dan Quixote, Finger Norton and Walter Mitty?
Prohably. fut not to warry. Bantasics are goad things. They don't become delusions
ntl we stark believing Wem, What belive is tat al least dorens of composers
haves he krack, There ontist be hundleeds, considering the terrific film scores
alteibuled Lo names neve (o me when [hang on for the credits, Bach of us, very much
including film composers, gives the world what we think it needs, We like Lo be
appreciated, bur we dou give a fig shat it wants. We won't always agree on what it
needs. We'll defend to the death the other guy's right to his message. But we preter
our awn. That's what my answier meant We're cach the best. But | do have the
temerfty to init the lst to those few dozens or hundreds.
Sormeane might alsw be surprised al my choice af benchmarks in versy and
economics. Masefield and Mill? A consensus might have picked T. 5, Elliot, say, and.
Lord Keynes. Muse{leld and Mil are likelier (o be remembered us old-fashioned
fuddy-cuddies already outmoded when they wrote. But that's me. | am Don Quixote.
Nota single idol in my puntheons in those three fields was born aller 1900, allbough
that could change in economics.
My pantheon in music is Hach, Becthoven, Schubert, Wogner and Mahler. Mahler,
the Jast-hor, died in 19719151. What about Mozart? Clearly colossal. Listen to the
slow mrvements af almost any of Wis plana concertos. Chililike simplicity, then a
light surprise, Une arather, and all at nce we are nna rig rough the stars. Bul
my Lop five show us more, Mozart is fo darned enigmatic: He is too dared voy. He
is Tass tamed Unirdd-persainal. Anil 1 ike breaking a sweat. Mozart. is uniquely the
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realest al what he does within the bounds he chooses (0 sel, Bul Like answers «s
well as questions, The five in my pantheon give me those,
Mozartis unrivalled at what he does hecause no one clse plays the same game. What
other composer has put such a premium on delicacy, on poise, an self-cffacement?
That docsi't deny that he was a red-blanded mensch who Javed ijins and good
times as ouch as the: rest al us. Wis Ronda alla Tren is one of many masterpieces
showing that ste. But it only rounds aut the finpressian ara Nawless dinner
Campanian. A maxim of dasicism in tne Greek spiril bs “nothing in excess”. Mazar’s
exuberance wo bijinks were just the right amount,
He wats the master of moderation. His operas put passion mostly in the mouths of
clowns and villains such as Papageno and Osmin and Queen of the Night. His
sympathetic sorts have feelings too, but keep them circumspect. The perfect
companion cares first ahout aur feelings, not his. Mozart remains that even on our
Journeys together through the stars. We ave kept safely assay fram the heat. We ave
allawed 10 Feel ansiety ecamise the work is sa ar helow, That was half Ue point of
th rip. The ther Ralls the happy ending as he leads us safely home. Ansiety, but
notin excess.
“hat shows hin as the master of levitation. Richard Steauss gives the example of
Susann's aria "Voi che sapete® (you who know) from Figaro, an innocent ditty
which somehow never kinds on the tonic (home note} until the end. The beginning
of kine Kisine Nachtmusik (a little night music} docs this again. But the slow
movements of his piana concertos show it hest.
Mozart is not my panthean, even so. le is maderatian in excess. like the game the
athe all play. [ike a sense af the first persia singular. The five in my pantheon
also take us through the stars, Bul they ake us closer. We feel the heat because (hey
dn Listen ta Backs chacamie for sola violin, vr passucagfia and fugu for organ.
Listen to the eilige dankgesang {holy song of thaoksgiving) from Beethoven's
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quisrtel opus 132, Listen to the slow movement of Schubert's Lwo-cello quintet opus
163, Listen to Wagner's licbestod (love death) from Fristan, or Mahler's adagietto
fom his fifth symphony. This music plays for keeps.
“The polar opposite to Mozart would he Verdi, Like Mozart, he is nat in my pantheon
hut clase. Far Verdi, na passion fs tan much. 1c is the master of contrast, ie shakes
our ematians hack and farth as a dog shakes a ral. Lull and storm are each given
enough time th pack the most punch in the other. Te wants only appasites and
extremes, Whit wuld the fatidions Frans Jaseph have thought? He would Have
called he guard
Somewhere between Apollo and Dionysus, between relativism and frenzy, lies the
true path. The tive in my pantheon have found i.
1 seldom call myself a pact, since that's already a tad vainglorious. For hetter ov
werse, In a Jack af that rade tan. The true pocts in ty panthean hegin with Keats
ami Masefield. 1 havens found a clear choice far third. There are awesome ings in
Milton, Blake, Caleritige, Tennyson, Family, Houseman, Robinson, Dawsan, Yeats and
athers,
Shakespeare, like Mozart, doesn't figure in the center of the picture. J take him as the.
arealest mind and soul yel known, the greatest playwright, the greatest wriler in
general, and all of these because he taps to the bottom of what poetry can be, "Who
ss this whose griet/ Conjures the wandering stars, and makes them stand Like
wonder-wounded hearers? Itis I, Hamlet the Dane”. Holy mackerel! Hut these are
touches fn his plays. Poetry. in his time, meant samething toa cailted and pretty and
mannered for my taste. You can take Venus and Adonls, the Rape of Lucreee, and
the scanned That includes the petulant dark Lady sannels, which break Ue model of
preciousness bul find nothing better. Shakespeare simply came along lwo early, 1
credit Milton, in *Lycidas®, fir discovering Use true vein a few decades Tater.
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Tha Jeaves economics. Here ) really have a one-man pantheon io Sir William Celly. |
suppose that | a the only persou to have looked at his portrait alongside Isaac
Newtou's, in the Royal Society which they co-founded, and seen the two as
intellectual equals. Mill seems a cicar second, thanks to his superb paragraph on
growth. The candidates for third sec well hehind. Maybe Jevans ar John Rac or
Lean Walras. Time has not heen kind ta the teachings of Keynes. 1 would nove rank
is echer Alfred Marshall higher, Tiki Myrdals magnificent is ante - ex post
distinction. Baehin Bawerk and the Austrian schoal are underrated. The pantheon
might hare rom fo hiro.
Am] being (00 tough on later economists? We should nol forget Sciaullz and Ben-
Porath. Schulz greatest achievement, unless Mincer beat him, was in spotlightiog
human depreciation. hat left me to ask where this huge flow goes. The answer
becomes inescapable once we focus on the question. gives the obvious solution to
the age-wage problem. Everything in this book is obvious. Some af it, ike that
solution, is the abvious hut nimaticed.
Someludy, soaner or later, hrwaks he news ahuul the ein peror’s news cvthes. You'd
think Don Quixote woukd be Lhe [4st Lo pipe up. No one in the world was mare
devoted to tradition and beautiful creatures of the mind. But it takes i fool. He was
that, and so am I, Der reine tor, There have to be a fev of us always, We'll get a few
windmills before (hey they gel us.
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APPENDIX A: The Argument in Notation
Output and Cash Flow
My focus will be on absolute rather than per capita values. The usual custo gives
capital letters for the former and lower-case anes for the latter, | will prefer the
upper case for stocks and flows, and the lower one for rates, That need not bold true
for Greek letters.
The tatal retuen truisin can be natated
Y=R.-F, aL
where ¥ is autput, K, is total capital and I is cash law. Also.
F=teC, and T=r,-7, iaLzy
where © (tau) is vet transfer, © is transfer out, © is transfer in and C, is pure
cansumption (exhaust n taste satisfaction). Cash flows Is the net of positive loss
negatives compunents {define Uhm by
E-T+C. Boz and FFF (41.20)
at the collective scale, where transfers cancel internally, these equations combine
for
Y=K +C and F=F =C, (a13)
Math reminds us continually that “equals” docs nat necessarily mean “is” {A1.1) and
{AL3). for example, do Not MEAN that OUTHUL is growth plus cash flow oF growth plus
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pure consumption. Why? Output in itself means cretion of economic value,
Mathematically, that could include what | called “output exhaust’, meaning value
exhausted as soon as created. | ruled that out as "free goods”, which happen every
day but are neglected in economics as unable to influence behavior either before or
after. That's why "equals" cannot mean “is” in (41.3). And neither dacs it in {A13).
Rather both state that sutput pravides cash flows affser plus total capital growth
This distinction helps everywhere in econarmics. We knaw far example thal lranser
aut may be din either from capital in place or fram coprarrent wulpul, The
source of first kin is decaptialization . Bul decapialization also includes uther
components than transfer out. In Chapter 3, and again just now, | excluded output
exhaust as free goods possible in math but neglected in economics. That makes
duapitalization D the any swurce of pure consumption C, . And nol al
decapitalization is Lransfer or exhausL. Some is deadweight Joss, defined in (41.1) as
any negative sum of capital growth K. and cash flow I. That can show in
D=D_+D, and Db =D +C. are)
Here I is recovered or realized decupitalization, U, is "\ransfer depreciation” nel
of plowwhack into the same asset, and , Is deadweight lass. A Is fombda. 4t the
collective scalk, where Lansfers cancel internally, (41.4) becomes
n,=6,. (A144)
the dispositions of transfor out may be reinvestment in other assets of the same
owner, or may be gift donecs. Reinvestment can he interfactor as show in
Chapter 5. transfor out trom fatal capital of any individual, net of internal transfers,
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simplifies (0 gift. Transfer in gine by the owner’ total capital, nel of the sume
internal transfers, is gift received. ‘The math becomes
=r. vey ov. B=r+C. Esp and Fey, (ALS)
atthe scale of cach individual's total capital as a whale Tere 3 (garmme) is net git,
y, isgiftand y_is git received.
Divide (ALL) by K, tofind
+ - Bs & i ALS}
Define these thee ferms as producivily or cate of return 1, total capital growth rate:
and cash flow rate [Theo {A16) can be reexpressed as
roger. (AL6a)
(R13) cambines with (A1 6 to show:
Y_§, €,
¥, “i «© . atthe collective scale. (A17)
Define “pure consumption rate” «, as €, /K, and substitule to shove
r-gtc,, atthe collective scale, {AL7a}
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{ALI (ALS), (AL7) aod (ALB) ae wliesnalive statements of the otal return
truism.
Tn general, define 8(Q)=4/Q for ay varishle Q. Note again thal g in this hook
Means growth rate af capital g(K,) rather than output. gin macro tradition usually
means growth of putput (Y). Tatal capital K, is the sum af human eapital 11 and
shysical capital K. Theic outputs respectively are work W aod (net) profit P, Their
counterparts Lo {AL1) nd (A164) we
Wel FW), (M=g(i (0), P=KIFR) and r(K)=g(K) 11K), (A18)
where E(H), f(H), F(K) and ([K} ace respectively "human cash ow”, "human cash
flow rate”, “physical cash flow" and “physical cash flow rate",
Present Value and Present Cost
If there were na such thing as tne preference, present and future value would be
the same. All economists knowin t me eoniile that sie prefer present gands
utr anes, althaugh some like Joseph Schumpter have seen no good rasan why. 1
suggest a reason in vex geoeration theory.
Present value theory, wterstood in essence by (he Sumerians, considers whal we
now call future positive cash ows which are expected to be generated rom
external investments (transfer in, negative cash low) made now or earlier. At the
differential (infinitesimal) scale, we can write the associated future value as
A¥VER) =F [£)dz zn
at futare moment z. The basic idea of present value bY is
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APY) F {ze “1 “da, 22)
where is the appropiate Lime diseount rate.
Note the implication
Fe APY (Je, 23
showing that q is the growth rate that raises the value of dPV(x) to F,(z)dz over
rind 7 Since this differential campanent af asset. value defers all positive cash
ow until moment 7, and cannot in itself he allected by lator Lransfors in,
sitopifies by (41.6) Ub rate of return. This was Boehm Baserk’s insight, although
he was not mathematical, in squaliog lime preference rate ( rate of celurn 7, Thus
{2.2) and [2.3} give
APYCOAX=F, (el and F{Ae= dx" az4)
where © 5s the appropriate rate of return and time discount cate equivalently.
But what determines appropriate © in these equations? ltate of retarn varies with
isk among different assets at the same tine, and varies aver tine with economic
efrcomstances. Mast sources [have seen treat v In (42.4) as a variable to he
integratent over (x, 7). [mgsel Tong believed the same.
My view now looks 16 the conteal, The assel as whole will typically hive received
‘many differential investments before time x and may receive many alter. Bach al
inception will bave been priced by the owner's time preference rate then, But ny.
theme in risk Uneory is ial issels cn be traded or modified to We current owner's
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sisk lolerunce now, She discounts each expected (ute flow not by her foreseen
time preference rate then, but by her time preference rate today. [t seems to me that
the appropriate discount rate © in (A2.} is r(x). She will provide for anticipated
changes in ber time preference rate by factoring costs of raging the assctif
tradeable, or modifying it if modifiable, into her evaluations of future value ¥, (2)dz,
and so from present value Loo. | consequently interpret (42.4) to mean
APVG)=F (Ae Ode and E (o)drmiPV{x)e IE) 23)
The vale of the whole asset Vix) at time x will be the sum or integral of present
values of all foreseen cash Hows both negative and positive over (x, o J. where &
{omega) she foreseen end paint of flows. o way be infinity o>. Thus
Vix) =v()=J He Oe, xemzeme {a2.6)
The teams value and total capital ave interchangeable, as are they natatians V and
K,.
Present cost G(x) evaluates Vix) as the sum or integral of carlier negative cash
flows compounded at Tate r since moment of ivestNCNE Y, and not yet
decapitalized in positive ash ow. The counterpart 1 (42.1) becames
AIC) =F (ua and dPC(x)=dV(x}=dPV(x] nz)
where IC Is what 1 call “investment cost”. The counterparts to (42.2) and (42.3) are
AV{R)=F (we™ “du and F{u)du=d¥(xje ** {A28)
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hee equals some appropriate « by the same logic as before. Here again, we
usually read futerpretations of (428) which treat the appropriate © as an integral
of time preference or equivalently ProGuctivity rates aver the interim (ux). 1
Toever ste dV(x) as determined by current rate r(x) whether derived hy present
cast vr present value ethan. If the priginal investor remains Uys current owner,
aol vow (ins ber time prefecence rate different, she will have factored asset
‘modification costs into her original decision lo bid or ives. [f vol. she will have
traded to someone whose time preference rate is better suited. My counterparts to
{Az.1) and (726) become
AVE = PU) =F [We ™dx aod F Q0du=aveen (a2)
and
Vix)=tex)= [Hue Cody, (AZ1Y)
These equations stem the most stra ightforsard reconciliation of the masimand le,
the canvergence axinms and Lhe wvidence supporting risk theory. They describe
indivieual asses over time, svmelimes passing from one owner 10 another, rather
than a given owaer's loll portfolio, We maximize return within current risk
tolerance, recoguize that it will change, and deduct present value of expected
trading or asset modification costs from future vale of flows while adding them to
original value. This scoms true to life. It allows discounting all expected positive
flows aver (¥,7), and compounding all past negative ones aver (0, ), at a single rate
+(x) heeanse af thse adjustments value or cast of lows. Tradition treats the
Moves as se givens, and Une discon rates 1 fanetion of nds time belo x
and 2 or betsicen 0 and x
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My interpretation thal the lime discount rie /rate of return we naturally apply in
evaluating both present cost and present value is our time preference rate now,
sather than Some remospective or prospective average, might scem counterintuitive.
Ipropose it, even 0,25 the "time discount rule”.
Analogy to the Firm
Tallow convention by eating all transfer out as compensated by actual or impute
severe. The part exhausted In taste satisfaction gets imputed revenue paid by the
consumer satisfied Noval] revenue compensates transfer out, as revenue is usally
defined as sales proceeds aginst which prio vulside claims oust be satisied first
These are ypically for labor and supplies io the case of the firm. Chiapler 6 gave the
Togic in word equations. It begins with
ppp. (421)
where p is revenue, p, is prior claims and p, is "earned revenue” as « residual.
Farmed revenue, also called grass realized output, is thus remaining share of averall
vevenue earned hy the Finn ov other entity that performed the sales, collected the
prices, and pail the: autsile daims an thn.
What the the firm ar ather vontrilaitin gives up Lo warn the warned revenue is the
sum of its realized output Y, and its recovered decapitalization D, . Remember
from (#1.4) that D,_ includes any pure consumption realized by the omer of the
source assed, although thal could not apply where the awner is taken as a firm. The
sumof ¥, and D, gives its gross realized outpus. Then
Yowss=p ~Y, 4D, 43.2)
where ¥, gross is gross realized autput. In Chapter 6, 1 also called ¥, gross or p,
“gross positive cash ow”, All mean he same, Twill usually leave out (he otition
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p, Tram now: on, and refer to gross realized autput ¥, gross alone.
Positive cash flow is that less plowback from revenue. This can be notated
H=Ygros p=, =D, po, (x33)
where , is plowback. Negative cash flovr is transfer in, notated 1_. thus
E=tandF [, F=Y,+D, pa, 7. (a3)
Cash low F is the difference
F=E M=YD, pf. 25)
Gross output is gross realized output plus unrealized (or proprictary or selt-
invested) output. This can show as
Y,. = Yams ¥ =¥ 4D +. (A368)
Think of the subscript s 4s meaning saved or sell-invested. As all output is either
realized or unrealized, we have
Y=Y+Y,.
“the terms saved, selt-invested, vorealized and propeiesary will he taken as
interchangeable.
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{3.6} combines with (A1.4) and (ALS) to arrive at
=F =Yaros-p, {A37)
at the scale of the total capital of the individual or any set of individuals. This fact
will prove: helpful in adjusting the Ben-Parath model and in next generation theary.
1 should he borne in mind thal transfer out and transfer in ace bath implicilly
defined as nel of plowback in the fest place, Thus iL would be wrong to suppose thal
negative cash (ow is transfer in less plowback (rom revenue. That mistake would
deduct plowback twice.
The Growth Truism
Growth af any asset of either factor is capitalization from autside plus capitalization
from inside less decapitalization. This difference can ako be called net capitalization.
Capitalization from outside is simply transfer in =. What are the other two?
Qur fest intuition would be that capitalization from inside is identical to unrealized
output. Here we must be careful. Output is negative wherever the sum of growth
{net capitalization) and cash flow falls below zero. This “deadweight loss” is
smyiicitly uncovered decapitalization, meaning not recovered in cash flags. To
subtractall including unrecavered deeapitalization from the sum of transter in and
mrealized output would therefore subtract the wrecovered part twice.
To wake this lear, define positive and negative utp by
Y{=0)-ma{v.0) and ¥{<0]=max(-Y0)}=2,
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where 2 (lambda) is deadweight Joss, Meanwhile negative output belongs in the
unrealized compunent plaulpul Y, as with al effects an nel capilalizalion nol
explained by teauster in or plowback trom revenue. Itis the random negative
component in free growth. Then define positive and negative output and realized
output more fully by
Y[p0)—max{¥ 0], v(co}omax{-y joa, v -¥(>0)-2. (44.1)
and
V(>0)- max(V.0), ¥(<0)- max(-Y,00-4 and Yo V(>0)-4 (#42)
There is also indirect capitalization from inside in the form of plowback from
revenue, The grovwlh truism sums these inflows Jess outflows as
R= 4¥ (0040, 0-7 +Y +p, 1, (443)
recalling that D, shows recovered (realized) decapitalization.
Atthe seal of the tatal capital af any individual or set of them, (A1.5) and (44.3)
give
Loa St i Ae {ae4)
Human Cash Flow
Although | can't recall secing the term “human cash flow” in any papers or textbooks
of others, tradition defines the How discounted to human capital as pay less Schultz”
“pure investment”. The flow so discounted is implicitly cash flow. | rename pure
investment “invested consumption,” and write the traditional view as
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E=x-C,, [78]
where k, isbuman cash low, 7 (pi} is pay, and Cis invested consumption. The
subscript 5, as usual, means saved or sclf-invested.
Pay x can he defined as the worker's literal or imputed revenue. Self-invested
camsumption C, can be defined as any investment in human capital other than
through self-invested work. This mikes C, all investment from outside in sense,
But that does not mean that itis limited to transter in. There is also plowbacl from
revenue (pay 7 ). a5 when we spend pay on texthooks or tuition. | model “pay
plowback” x, as minor in Ue world we know, but definitions must acount for it
This | defi
C=t(l) -m, or iH) =C,-7,. 5.2)
where (H) is “human transfer in”, This and (A124), showing ¥ = , give
FH) =2(H) =C x, . (453)
{A3.7) and (A3.2), analyzing the finn, derived
pep, =Y,guss=Y, =D,
For human capital, this can show as
Tom, = W gross -W, +10, (#54)
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reading "pay less prior claims on pay equals earned pay equals gross realized work
equals realized work plus realized (recovered) human depreciation”.
Prior claims means outflow {transfer aut], from sources other than the diveet
vecelver of revenue, which are recovered in it and owed hack to them. Maintenance
carisumption can le defined as any Lransfor aul rom any wsel of either factor,
outside the human capital af the carner, which supparts pay in the sense that any
Js maintenance consumption would Fave realized less pay. This meets every
criterion of prior claims bul soe. Maintenance consumption is the prior claims
meantby x, in (45.5) itand only ifit is actually recovered in pay or so intended.
Tze ny arguments that iis neither, bul s rather exhausted in satisfying our laste
fir survival, in Chapter 6 and elsewhere. 10am right, (45.4) gives
=O and AoW), Wars (455)
50 that pay would measure and compensate gross realized work. This is the pay rule.
By (A33), positive cash How is gross calized output less plowback from revenue.
That comes to
FI), =W gross & =x x, (x36)
Maw vee ave
FO}=F) ~F0N) =7-7 ~(C,~7 )=r=7,~C +7, -7-C,, {A357}
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‘as the application of (43.5) to human capital. This confirms the waditiond view
{45.1} (AS.5) is right iv interpreting prior claims on pay as zero,
161 was wrong there, and Quesnay and the physiocrats were right, same
‘maintenance consumption would be recovered in revenue af its suppliers. Then [
should have written something like C=C +L, =C, , where “transfer consumption”
€, was he value recovered by suppliers, This mathematical possibility, which { do
not claim to have disproved, explaius why | do not claim that the pay rule is logical
certainty as a whole. | claim certitude only For its mast surprising feature: buman
depreciation is expected to be recovered i pay. The rest follows only IF (AS 5) is
sight a3 1 think it fs. Meanwhile (43.5) also gives
€=C+¢,, A38)
where C is consumplion.
Saved wark WE. neans the sulf-invested output of human capital. IL includes the
sublininal and effortless work of ob experience ws well us the effort aod
opportunity cost of Herd! schooling, und so includes any (ree growth of human
capital. Then
Wa HW (459)
The grawth truism (A4.3) for human capital becomes
HCW {5 0) =H) =, + W, ~ D(H), 43.10)
Human Capital us Present Value
Note
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1d x-C,
8(F|H }=g{r-C)=——"—(7-C)=—, [46.1]
RFI }=sfm-C) Fe ge 61)
and also
FH) &-C = .
JT I eR 16.2]
an- 20 Lo fez)
{25.5}. | take this as meaning all adult productive activity not self-mvested. Then the
ratios & /H anid €, /H , lhe ralio of invested consumplion to human capital, might
both be intuited as biological norms, like the generation length, which tend to hold
steady aver time. Meanwhile the definition [TF /K, fn (A1.6) and (A1.6a) is
applied Lo human pial as
=F ==C, {a63)
fan” ion
Whal we want is Lo quantify [(H) in order \o reveal H [rom measured or modeled
=, Next generation theary measures cash How rate of total capita, which
simplifies lo the pure consumption rate. al 3.5% a year as a reciprocal of lhe
generation length. | argued that the risk component in rate of return is captured in
cash flow cate, vather than growth rate, that return at any given moment varies only
wit isk, and that human capital as a whole should prove the riskier and ighr-
return factor. Then f(H) should prove generally higher than 3.5% per vear.
That could give the Key to quantifying collective human capital through (46.3). 1 vA
not attempt that step here. A reason is that national accounts reflect pay mixed with
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Profi when reporting income of proprietorships. [would rater (rust an expert in
national accounts to tease them apart, and to judge whatever pay should be imputed.
10 people in the household sector not lirerally employed.
The Level Payment Mortgage
(Az) gives
he) =k Ha gy A7.1}
Consider the level payment mortgage. F(z} is the constant level payenent while (x)
5 the constant interest rate Here (A2.5} simplifies to
Ve =E] c= drake [Tear non] 72)
5 there 3s no self-invested output, aud io negative cash flow after foitial investment
al time 0, decapitilization (amortization) simplifies Uo ~V(x). Thus
” d Fy wa | Fowd ow Foo 7.
x)= -Vix)= wal oo Je wm {A73)
confirming that amortization increases exponentially over the term of the mortgage.
Depreciation Theory
Depreciation can he defined as decapitalization which is a Fanction of time since
capitalizatian alan. When assets change hands, depreciation continues unchanged.
Depletion and liquitkation in sale, by contrast, ave aptivns available at any assel age.
Amortization van be given the san definition as lepreciation, bul is customarily
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applied to paper rights such as the mortgage rather than lo physical or human.
capital itself.
Depreciation of those assets is not as simple as with the mortgage. Cash flow I and
discount rater are typically variables rather than constants. Depreciation theory
avoids that complexity, much as accountants do, by treating cach suceessive
vestment in an asses iF il were separate assed depreciating in itsell.
{AZ3pUhriugh (42.10) gave: present salu at Lime x ofa differential foreseen,
sitive cash flow at future lime 2 as
APV() F(a " ~N, any
where the differential present value srase from a earlier or concurrent negative
cash flow invested al lime u<=x . [Las shown (hal all of assel value PY(x) a any
time x can he explained as a sum or integral uf such differential inerements
evolving with tne alone from Investment ta eventual realization,
Meanwhilk all autpul within the differential increment of dBY is self invested.
Growth dPV can be understood either ws Wis sell-invested ouput or equivalently
the shortening discount period, as each mens growth alate r. AUnlerim moment
titis
avy =sarv=pe n= CFE ee era ay
JE
hus present value rises exponentially aslong as the moment of cash flow is
deterred.
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Atmoment z sell-invested oulpul ends and all change in value is explained by
depreciation alone, (t equals the entire accumulated value of dP at fing] moment z.
Thats,
Dz =—dPY (zz =dPV(z) =dPVx)e (483)
The following table shows sme ilust atians:
Depreciation Factor ¢“"* * it z—x is 50 Years
Interim a—x (years): [ 10 20 30 a0 50
lactorit (x)= 035: 174 247 350 497 705 1
actorif {x)= 063: 039 074 42 273 52 1
This exaclly reverses the analysis applied in valional accounts, which models (be
factor as decreasing rather ban rising exponentially.
Jt should be stressed that these equations and this table describe each successive
differential increment of outside investment (transfer in), not assets overall or
groups oF therm. (transfer in Were Constant and contingous fn an asset or geovp,
other things equal, averall depreciation would shows as lincar.
Free Growth Theory
Ty te fatal return trvisen (A1 6), showing r= § 1 1, we derive
g=r-f. dg=dr-df. and Ag=Ar-af. 49.1)
dy or Ag Is "acceleration, de or Ar is "productivity gain” ar “free growth vate”
and = or =Al is "thrift gain", Divide by acceleration to reach
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deal _drdu_dran_ + _f Ar
de 0 _drdt dine Fp ar ar I)
dy dg dg dg gg ay Ag
de, or AC give free growth as a flow, while ~diR, or ~AJIK., give the fav of
thi,
Define the “productivity index or *[ree prowlh index” o (phi) as £/§ or Ar/Ag,
and the “thrift index” 8 (theta) ws 1 /& or -AF/ 2g. (49.2) can then be puts
o-6-1, (A920)
in either the conlinuous time or discrete period sense.
Free growth theory is the prediction that ¢ at the collective scale will average unity
{the numer one), implying that 6 averages aero, When @ or 0 is measured for
exch year or for shorter periods if practical, Thrifl theory makes (he opposite.
prediction 6-1 and ¢ 0, The point is to compare simultaneous changes in
acceleration and thrift, and then Hind the long-term average of these simultancous
Ghscrvations, rather that compare long-term changes In the First place. IF free:
growth Is ight, they will prove uncorrelated. That Is exactly what the charts and
tables shave whenever data are available, Acceluration is as likely ta caincile with
unthrifl, meniog increase in consumption rate C/K, ws with trill
Division of (49.1) by acceleration was not essential to the logic. 1t added the
convenience of index numbers totaling uty.
“The test should he as fine-grained as practical. Ifthe Pikerty Zucaian wehsite
showed quarterly ar manthly data revealingany byo of 1, ¢ and 1 would have
averaged the largest number of shartest periods. What 1 iy to compare is ex ante.
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acceleration, measured as (rill ~Ac, and ex post acceleration Ag a Ube sume
moment. Otherssise we dant have the clearest test between free grawth and thrift
thearics. th agree that consumption ean keep pace with nutput and capital aver
ime. Free growth Unvory msserls tal they keep pace continuously
Correlations tell the same stary. Tables show tha coellicients between © and g
run shoul 1, as with the free growth index, while correlations between [ aod & run
about zera,
1 do mot claim that anyone but bill and ! has actually proposed tree growth theory,
nor that anyone at all has proposed thrift theory as here defined. (tis my impression,
not assertion, that mader consensus fits thrift theory given Harrods qualifier that
attempted (ex ante) net saving (thrift) must not execed the technological growth
vale (sar ranted grinsth path). My fimpression is tat Sula and madera Lradition
agree, bul blunt Tharranl’s knife edge. Free grawih theory counters thi the same
srowth acrives costlessly when ex ante nel saving investment is held ai zero, Nor do
I claim that data shown in omy charts and tables prove free growth theory. Rather
they demonstcate (hid all growth has prover (ree wherever measured o date.
Saving/ Investment
Unlike Lord Keynes and modem tradition, | define saving and investment as
synonymous am the start, 1 don't strictly need either term. My “manster in”,
“unrealized outpus” and “plawhack” arrive at the same thing, But {know must do
my best Lo write in a language al rearly understood. Lill usually say “investment lo
mean savinginvesiment, and will ise Keynes” notation T for hth.
Keynes did not explicitly recognize human capital, although he very probibly
understood it. He treated investment in physical capital only. { notate this |(K]. 1 also
tral investment in Latal capital, ta be notated KK, ). Tach, as in Keynes, sums
depreciation veenvery and “net investinent”. The latter, in my treatment is
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considered in both ex ante id ex post versions, The subscripts xa wad xp will show
which,
Fe ante nel investment car be mated I(K,),, and defined as identical ta thrifl Naw
QIK, } or AIK). Its rate is the same as thrift rate ~df or —Af kx post net
invesimenl is actual growth K, or AK. /at asa low, and § or AK, /(K At) asa
rate. Free growth theory, supported by data wherever tested, predicts that theift or
ex ante nes investentat the collective scale sacrifices cash ow (pure
cansumption) with no growth ta campensate. My interpretation is that the aptimun
callective ex ante vel investment. rale is zera, ve wquivalently hat optimum
investment is current cost depreciation plac from both factors, Thin optimum
xan net investment becomes
IK, ),. optimum ~0, atthe collective scale. (193)
{NeL) DulyuLY at Lal sel is lal capital gronsth (ned investment of both facies)
lus pure consumplian. There ta we can distinguish ex aate oulput as pure
consumplion plus ex ante investment, while ex post oulpulis pure consumption plus
ex post net investment. (3.3) gives
Y, optimum =C, , atthe collective scale, a0)
where Y,, is ex aate oulpul,
Since (gross) investment equals net investment plus makeu for decaptalization,
while decapitalization equals pure consumption €, collcetively by (41.4a), we can
show I(K,), optitoum =C, as an alternate statement of (49.4).
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Summarizing,
TK, vptinum = ¥, optimum —C, , al the collective scale, {29.5}
if tree growth theory is correct.
Fv ante investment and output mean at cost. They are what we pay far. The practical
importance of (49.5) is as a guide t macroccanamic policy. 1 says that we cannot
row callectively hy attempting to produce mare thar we consume. We do best by
paying fo produce just ss much, and fakiog free growth as il comes,
{49.5} does not say that we cannot influence the growth tides. ft says that we cannot
do so by thrift. It seems to be me that growth theory lies somewhere in the province
of historicism and institutionalism rather than in the mechanics of supply and
demand. Judging from history, old and nes, growth seems tind traction in free:
markets where laws and customs welcome i. These are institutions shaped by
history.
Freee gransth heary and 1s equations predict at the vollective scale only. Clearly the
Practical Pig can save out of the dissaving of his feckless brothers, while (he
sndividual life cycle is largely a story of each generation giving o the next,
Adjusting the Ben-Porath Model
uman capital bugins at zero vai alcohard age 8. Invested consumption ¢ starts
now, and is imnediately compounded by sell-invested work of se young, This
means all work before pay begins a age of adulthood and independence A. As
human depreciation is expected to be recovered i pay, that flow too is put off uatil
age A. Then cohort present cost at any carlier age x, as detined in {AZ.10], is
HEx)= le @e™ dz. of xem (a0.
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J argued that outside investment in human young, including the unpaid work of
‘parenting, night not be far from constant. School costs rise 2s parenting costs
dectine. {A10:1) in that ase gives
Hx} Cammy] fxm (A162)
eh 1 “ )
AL maturity (A10.1) becomes
HA)= Ce a (#103)
Hin adulthood is easiest to model at present value rather than present cost, Human
cash flows Is pay less €,. Discounted cash laws becomes
Wep= "tr CHR dz, I x5=A, (A104)
where 1{z) now is best understood as time preference rate. This is identical to
expected rate of veturn, as shawn in the diamond ving parable. Note that there s na
explicit agustonent for asset isi | argue that human capital is not uherently iskicr
‘han physical capital, ht rather adapts to the ik olcrance of es owner, It isin
callotively hocanse avned disproportionate by the risk alerant young treat
vik profil ns Function of Uh avers ng, gender ned wrath, (A104) desires
cohort value, and so neglects individual differences in gender and wealth as already
caplured in the characteristics of the cohort,
Tmadel as negligihle In adulthoad hecause 1 see so little of it. That would reduce
adult human cash How ta pay alone, and so simplify (A10.4) to
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Wh Ade Ea, G0 and 2A (103)
Mov let's add some detail and bring in physical capital. Like most, | model
inheritance as zero and physical capital acquisition as begining after age of
Independence A. That can be modeled as age 20. AS human depreciation hegins then
at ero, If deprochation theony Is right, gross realized worl (pag) simplifies at fist to
realized work. This Lakes up all the new warker's Lime and attention, yet
simullaneusly enables sublinrinl sell-investeel work in job perience.
I seems reasonsble to model pay al job entry ws equal to the new worker's
‘maintenance consumption, on the reasoning that independence means reaching the
ability to carn it. Thus nothing i left tor investment in physical capital at iest, But
the quick buildup of job experience soon means pay left for investment, As L model
no pay plowback, that means physical capisal acquisition.
Thuman depreciation visas slowly while the self-invested wark of job experience
diminishes, sa that overall growth in human capital peaks and then declines.
Physical capital owned dos the same as we acquire Land thin spend iLon the
Young, Young arrive, on average, 45 4 cohort reaches age 26.5 (ony estimate of he
generation Jeng). The cohort of adults hegins divesting its capital of bath factors in
nurture and schooling received by the young as invested consumption.
‘the young reach independence on average when the adult cohort reaches age 57 (2
X26). Some young will have heen barn after parental age 26.5, and will continue to
receive parental Investment over the clght years remaining hetsicon age 7 and
rutivermun. modeled aL aye 65. Bul my model canal account confidently far his
eight year gap on the whole, ar for the retirement pertod allowing, sehich runs
ovis Bang. My hy pathesis is thal retirees are uffiectively employes hired hy
ruductives (0 help lake vare of he kis, while the eight-year gap might show a
umn capital reserve againsL nasty surprises.
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Reticement can be defined in principle as the period vehen our pay, literal or
imputed, no longer covers our majotenance consumption needs. Human capital
continues, even 50, as long as we eam any imputed pay for helping take care of
aurselves wd others. Maiolenance is nol investent ¢, and is nol deducted in
finding our cash flow and its present value,
{744} showed the growth truism for total capital ot any individual as
Ko=7 4% 4p,-0,
recalling that 7 is gift received, Y, is seli-invested (unrealized) output of both
factors, p,, is plowback from realized output, and D, is recovered decapitalization.
For the young under age A [model K.. asH alone, 7 as invested consumplion
provided by adults, Y gross as sell-nvested work, which | model as all work, and I),
as7er0. Thus (44.4) is Interpreted as
Ky=H=C,=W,=C + W=C +H, lage <=4, (4105)
Yeading directly to (410.1)
For adults | model gift received yas zero. As physical capital acquisition is modeled
as beginning al independence (age &), ¥, now becomes sel invusted output for bath
actors. Fel Uhis show as I? far physical capital. p, means pay plnsback ples
plowbisck from revenue of physical capital, as with the firm, Thi can show as p(K),
But [model 7, as zero hecase | see sa litle of it. Rather Tallow reinvestment of pay
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into physical capital holdings. That can be notated =. 1 don't allow transfer rom
Physical to human capital in adults, which would mesa invested consumplion ¢,
afforded from property cash flow, because Tse sa little adult ¢, fadull education)
on which lo spend it. That's why I model 7, as zero, Meanwhile realized
decapitalizaiton is decomposed into its human aud physical components DT), and
DK), . This adapts (A4.4) 0
K,=H-K=W_ +8 + pI), =x IH), -D(K], , iFage >=A (A106)
aol specifically
N=w nN, al Keg, Bip(K)L, DK), ifage>=A
167)
Next Generation Theory
“The perfod of production, as defined by Jevans and Bach Bavrerk, gave the
reciprocal of rate of production (rate of return ¥ /K. ) if growth were zero, Output ¥
equals growth plus cash How. Then Jevons and Boch Bavwerk really meant the
period needed for output th make up or 10sses to cash tow. | call this the “cash ase
period” 1 , equal to the reciprocal of cash flav rate L That is,
1
T= ALY
= (A111
Both modeled at the collective scale, where cash Qow under the ¥ = 1 + equation
both would have accepted simplifies to consumption C. Adjustment to the ¥ rule
corrects this to pure consumption ©, . That would specify (ALL1) as
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1
Tm + atthe collective scale. (A111)
recalling thal «, is pure consumption rate €, /K..
Rae, Jevons and Boehm Bavwerk all got nowhere because they modeled physical
capital only. Jevons, in particular, saw the productive cycle as the wage fund
reproducing itself as it was used up in consumption per A11.1). He was close.
{A11.12) madels ft as total eapital reproducing itself as itis used up in pure
cansumption. My next generation they, really Petty's, pasits the generation length
as he deadline far Leansimilting al) Fowss (tala) capital) from each generation to the
next.
The genevation length in ILA. Fisher's sense is average age difference between both
parents and all offspring (rom first bicths Lo last weighted equally. [Lis « Dexible
bialogical norm. It eas probably well over 30 years before 1900 or so, shen bigh
inant mortality compelled longer breeding to ensure that two would survive to
breed again. Contraception, lmawn since Roman times, was then less practiced. Jt
Seems to Tun a ete under 30 years taday in industrial couric. 1 model tat 26.5
years. That gives
T=2BSyears and c= = 035 year 112)
{49.3}, inferred from (ree growth theory, already gives
I, optimum =¥ optimum =c_, al the collective stale.
“Chis Shows That the OUEUE vee actually COTO], MCaning ex nce Output, is aptimized
at just enovgh to make up losses to pure consumption. Next generation theory
specifics that the loss and make-up period equals the generation length,
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Under the simplifying assumptions of the life cycle model adapted from Ben-lorath,
we would meet that deadline by directing all adult gross realized output less
property plowback p(K), to gift to the immediate generation of young received as
their invested consumption. The young would add their part by compounding that
autside investment into their human capital at the Fate of their cntire ex one ouTpUL.
This would prae the mast stralghtfarsear strategy bo exhaustand replace all ital
capital by the deadline exantly. This is justas in roy adjustil Ben-Parath model with
the addition of the specified deadline.
Here as there, L describe adults collectively and the young collectively. | will not
attempt to model effects of kin selection in individual investment choices. But | have
interned la Tay 4 groundsiark. Tnvestment, in Thamillon's sense, Leanslates Lo gill 7_
in economic terms. [Lis & (low of (otal capital (flness]) from donor (o donee, Al Ue
individual scale, as weell as for the group scale, it equals gross realized output Jess
plowback. Gross realized output tends to be a continuous tow, as we see it pay,
rather than one easily sped up or slowed down. his gives an idea of the time
constraints | mentioned in critiquing Haroilton's rule.
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Evolution and Human Choice over Time
Alan R. Rogers!
1997
1 The connection between evolution and economics
Tn ccomormics, ecquilibrin ime oflon found hy equating bo versions of he marginal rate of sii
siiftion (MRS). For example. my MRS in preferences (the ratio at which I am “just willing” 10
xchange hwo goods) should egual the MRS in exchange ((he satio at which | can exchange them
in the market). Otherwise, [ would have reuson to scll one good aad buy the other. At cyuilibrism
(uz shown in figure 1} these two versions af the MRS must be equal.
‘iis analysis is ulso fumilin to ovolusionry ccologiss, ws shawn in gare 2. There. the indif-
ference curves ave replaced by fionexs isograuns, which connect poiats of equal Darwinian fitness."
Ta plc of u budget constrint, coulogists study » variety of ihr cansirainis. The principle, Fow-
ever, the sane: equilibrinm eccurs a the pois where the two curves lune equa slope.
These two farms of amalysis an cammct by something decper (hes analogs. They ace cone
nected by a third equilibrium principie, which was first describod by Hansson and Susart [12].
These authors defi the MRS in fitness a5 the ratlo al which (70 £0ads can be exchanged without
aftccting Darwinian fitness. “thus, the MKS In fitness mersurs ihe absolute slope of the dotted
Ties in figure 2. The new equilibrium principle asseccs that, ac evolutionary equitibrium., the MRS
in fitness must oqud that in prefercnces, A simple proof of this principle is shawn in figure 3.
The new equilibrium principle adds an additional equation ro the arsenal of economics. ‘The
MRS in profircnces must now ual that in fines ax well us Boss in exchange and production.
11 the hypathesis of evolutionacy equilibrium torn out 0 be seul, then this shout allow a more
pawerful theory of economics,
“Rescuch Cano. King's College, Conthridge CB2 IST, UK. Pisaoc address: Dept. of Actboposogy, University
af th. Slt Lac Ciy, UT #4112, 15.4.
Publishiod as pp. 231-252 in Characterizing Hiciuan Paychalngicat Adaprotions, sited By G. Dock 6. Cider,
CUBA Foundatien Symposium 203. Joka Wily ood Ses.
1a rodels with Siscrecs gonzenions, Dureinia Anes is the conditionally expecta numer of in irdivibial’s
affiping gio is gop. Lo modes wih oveuppio oecaion, wes mere hy K€. 3, fis 3]
“Malas prizes” wi euces he asp: le of expen ncn sn warns of rs desce
dns 21,
1
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2
Na 1 A
Figure 1: The Indiffaenee Dingram of Ticonowics
An individual consumes 5 gency 577 af goo 1. und 79 of good 2. Ie ded indirence curves
coed consusaption Luislles lo whic ie is iia. By laying uc selig, the canoes mes Jef or
tinh along ths sid Audget fine. UN is asioizec, ut the point. hers th te fines base qual loge, or
other words. Uh punt whee MAS MES.
2 Application to time preference
Sappose that, in figure 1, good 1 refers to food that is consumed today. sud good 2 to food that
is Consumed + lim wit later. With hi inlespretation, le iguee describes preferences regarding
differear paths of consamption over time, or in other words. fe preference. To a recat piper
£51, 1 developed an evalutianars theors of diane preference using the methods outlived above.
“That paper steplifed the problem by assiming that changes in consumption aflect fines, solely
via thei effect on susvival, ere, | extend that auslysis (0 iuvorporate effects on fertility 5 well.
Tho pralysin proceeds hy deriving om vrprussion for the MRS in fitness, and seting dhs egual
to well known expressions for the MRS in preferences and in exchange. | begin wich s srics of
definitive.
21 Definitions
The MRS is preferences between isnmediate and delayed consuaption i defined by
Ni)
Rida
where he derivative is ken along s Fine of constant utility (i.e. an indifference curve. The MRS
0 preferences is often measured by 8. the marginal rate of ime preference (MKIE), which defined
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s
k —
Diewician 4258 increases with increasing vahies of cnametons 1% unc 4, und the dotted fitness isogrions
which corabiutious of 612 0d 52) ae feasihi. Fine amy assumed consraint, te esolutonery problet is
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.
¥
wo xX
¥ v
wih
Tiguse 3: Why the MRS in fitness equals thal in preferences al evolutionary equiliorium
Yitmess und utility each depend vn consumption of conunoditics 4° 7 md 4. TF the MRS in fitness
did not cqual hat in preferences, then the saprarns of the fiuness function F would cross those of
the wility Fanedion 17, 35 shown in the igure. Llicre would then exis consmnplion bundles, X and
¥, such thar X is proforred 1 ¥ slthaagh ¥ confers the higher ftmess. Lh preference ordering
cannot he evolutionarily stable because # tention hit revved the preference between X and
would be firvored hy selection.
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5
by
MRS wo? @
when: as betare + is the time that elapscs borwoen £7) ane 52, The MRS in excliange between
pecsent 0d future consumption i the satin oL whith present and future consumption cup be cs
changed by borrowing aud lending. Jc related 1 the inferuat ate § hy
elt 5
MAS) = al at @
whore 9 is wealth an dhe derivative is taken along 2 line of constant wealth, hit is, along the
solid market ling in figure 1. Tho MRS in fitness is defined by
it)
ws, I)
LIE Su. :
whore the derivative is (kes along 3 ine of constaat itness +". In equiivrinm, all these versions
of the MRS must be equal.
22 Finding the MRS in fitness
“Tie evolutionary theory of tise preference is completed hy the possibiliy that the retaras from
am insestrnent sway increase de Darwinian Guess of the lavestor’s dwsgheer (ar piher relative)
eather tha that of the investor horself. This make il necessary to use the evolutionacy theory of
“in weleclion viiich deals with interactions between relives (9. 101.
Ihe particular model used here was dovolvped in another context 14], and its application to the
eananic problem of tine prefecenoe i disensscd clsowhers [15]. Rather than repeat hat saterial
Loe. 1 shall simply stat: he relevant results.
22.1 Resolts from (he evolutionary theory of kin selection.
The: theory supposes that one individual (the donor or fnscstor) umiertabes an invetanent that has
an immediate cffect on himself, hut a deloyed effect on a second individual (the recipiont). Tee
donor and recipient may of may not be the sae individual. The donor undertakes his action at age
21%, and the recipient is affected after + Ge units, when the cecipient's age is), This interuction
changes fom £47 to FU + APY the donor's probability uf surviving from age &'t! to 210) + de.
“The dumor's erlliy during his same faterval is changed from mit t pi” + Ae. Siwilarly,
the Incoraction changes from P*2 to PE 4+ AP the reciyient’s probability of surviving fiom age
8 Lr 2 | ls, The seciplent’s feciicy dusing this interval changed from net wn | Aunts
The fit of thi interaction on Dierwinion lies ave summarized ia table 1, which bs acpled
fiom table 1 of [14]. Unlike the table used in my sirlier work on time preference 115, tis one
includ effects on Fertility a well 5 on mortality. Ln the table. » denotes the enefient of rela-
tiouship between donor and recipiont.? the subseripts 1) and # indicate Gre sex of the donor and of
TWEETS corllicient of lationship 13, po. 69, 137 138] cas be incerpresod as she Fuction of tas genes tl te
india cam expect 10 hob movin, neal | i he donor ad Ecipint we hs sucie val, 12 i he
cigint tm lspnog, 141 plik, nv onl
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Table 1: Low Changes in Fertility and Morality Affect Titness
Tiel AddiGve Repioguedve Discount Relationship
on change value factor to donor
Donat
A. fert. Amit! 1 tt 1
Romo. AP rl a] |
Recipient
Cen. de® | Bo B
Dimon, APF WE en r
Notas: he cust alle wil inreaee Teeaie) in equency i the sum of
row pradunts i positive (negative), The nerstion is deine in he text. For
simplicity, | svams chu 3 sex catia bin i ust. at fleets on fotility
re bri, thot is ects are small cough fh seensct-neor tran Sm aec
AL canbe ignored, and that a single recipient is efecked by each altevistic act.
Source: Rogeas [1d, Table 11
the rocipicnt, ind « denis the reproduc ive value (R.A. Fisher, 1938), tis dofinaat by
Bie igim iy) ;
i @
whete p is the cate of population groweh, ify} the probability of living 0 age §. 7,4) the ex-
‘pected number of ollspring produced at that age. and the subscript 5 inificates he individual's sex
“The reprodisctive lus can be inferprotal is he expected present value of an individual's future
canéibulions to he gore poo.
‘A gene that encourages the donor ta underiake tis action will oo favored by nak! sclection
3 he sn of the eow-procuets in tabla 1 is positive, or disfavored if hat sum is negative.
222 The MRS in fitness
An interaction is selectively neutral —having no effet on fitness. -if the sw of row-products in
ible: in reno, ic. iT
om Ames APT)
I ©
Here, | have assumed that offosts on mosulily are brief so that dx = 0. When this cquation
hold, the intecaction (or investment) described above moves us alony a liness isogtam. Thus, the
equation holds che key i the slope of Wis isugaain, tre MRS in fitness, But before proceeding, it
will be useful to recast the equation i terms of changes in consumption
mse sss tha. fetlity and sorta are bot differentiable. funcfions of consumption.
P= Pins)
mom ms)
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whore 4 is consumption at uge r. Turtherniare, 1 assure that the ferdity and morality effects in
the table were produced by changes in consumplion. Specifically, the donor's consurzpcion oe age
20" chnged from x1 we 4 Axil), while thal of the recipient changed from a) fo wf: 4 Ant
If these changes arc smal, then the fertility und morality effects are
AP = AcRin) ©
Am Awtniz) @
where 14, = BP{, i} hc is the ronnginal effet sf comsuraplion un sucvivel, aad 1, = Fane, 51/05
the marginal offct on fertility. Substiteeing these into squation 5 and rearranging gives the MRS
in titness, - hs Sd
ARE pum (nlp PAY
MAS = = — a ®
ane) (or t+ Fifan)
“his gonosslines qn. 7 of my earlier paper [15], which excluded the murginal effet of commurap-
tion on fertility.
223 The long-term real rate of interest
The long ten nierest es is found by setog siting
MRSy @
“where is the interest rate over delay 7. This procoduro equates the MRS in uress (che left hand
sd of the equation) with that in excliange (te right-hand side), aud is jusificd os folloves, The
awpunent in figure 3 shows thar, in ovelusianary eclihrir, the MRS in ites ast oqual that
in preferences. Turlhennare, in market equilibrivm the MRS in preferences mist eyual (hat in
exchange. In studying cquation 9, we wy exumining the implications of the hypothesis that both
caqilibrium ssanptions Told ue.
isin my previous popor an fime preference, 1 concentrate on lntergenaritionsl investments in
“which he investent benelits the Investor's daughter after cxclly one generation. By assumption,
the mother id drnghicr ime ified at the same age. so that the vo reproductive values in MES:
ae equal. In stationary equilibriu, te other umd smsghter will ls have equal wealth at this
common ge, so that the masginal effects of consusprion on thei atic und survival ae equal as
wel. Consequently, the right most fraction in equation § equals unity, sad MRS: = 2 fr, where
7 = 1/2 since fhe two individuals ace moter and dmghicr), and equals Ihe penscation length,
1’, Equation § becomes 26” = #7 or
i=(m%T~p a0
“Le selevani ee af populaian grow is ROL the COAT 0B, bUT SOI S07] Of average Fale ver ce
cent evolntionary bisrory. Since avalufionry changes are ususily slow, the List couple of centuries
of ripia growth sve probably Lad no large offcet. Prior 10 that, mut om average have been near
zero. Thus, cyustion 10 suggests that = {In 23/4. The generation time Tis usually a Tile less
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han 30 years in buman populations. For example, 7 28.9 in the 1906 popularion of Laisan [11].
“Thus, i 54 0, selection shout favor longterm Interest rates that averuge {11 2)/28.9 0.024 por
year, in ceasonable agreement with nhiereaiun
These resulls are ideatical to those. of my carlicr puper an tims preference 115, Eqn. 12], aud
extend those Tusuls rhe more general context In which selection sats via fertility as well as
morally.
2.3 Diminishing marginal returns 0 consumption
Tne inirouce the standard assumptions of economic smalyis: thos camurnplion helps ia some
sense aud that cach successive mil of consumption helps fess than the List, ba the presen context,
this will ruean both that axe) and {x} cach increase with sonsumption, and also that magia
efticrs doclinc us comsimplan increases.
Although thesa assumptions ws uaremrkshle: in cconbmics, hey way seem problematic bere.
Eating too much eum he bas for yuu, 2ud animals on restricted dicts bficn seein wa live longec than
these with uncestricred secess 10 food 17, See. 103.15. Yel this is no real cause for skepticism:
Food i Just ori of nuany consumer caods, and wealthy people do ive Tanger hae poor ones
To capac the diminishing mening? effet of consuroption, 1 will assume that
ig) = wipe
Plea) = Isic’
bone < re + 1, urd allention sc be resteieted 1 to parimeter values such hat 1 says whi
he incerval 0.1). Hove mi*iz and Pa an, respectively. the fertlicy and survival probability of
+ “stumdard” individu] of age x -one who cousumss a single unit of resource.
To justify this particular farmulition, appeal o the data in figure 4. ere, the vertical ux
mesmsures the variation of age-specitic futility across popelations, and the ori zontal axis measures
wean age-specific fifty. The yraph shows that fertility is most variable at nge clues. where
fertility 3s igh. At least sowie of this varifion mus reflect variation in consumption, “Thus, ic is
sensible to build a model in whith Ihe effect of CONSUMPLION is ZTeAtest on age: chases with ligh
fertility
Marginal erfifity om survival become
me = Emin) an
FN Fre) uy
x
aml the MRS in fess is
foes fan {1 Arse (ui
gpa {ye 1 i 13
asi = (5 JZ ye A od
ier 4 = cxf: + 3) mensuros the impariance of noegiial feds relative to marginal survival.
ne epost hs ize HRSA del
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y
0 &
0
Std. Dev, 20 $
10 : i
wls
; i —
0 2 an 0 A
Mean
Figure 4: Mean and Stundund Deviation of Age-specific Feat
Basel on the following sets af fenty deta: 106 Taiwea [11], Standard Nameal Fereilty [4], 1973 Libsu.
and 190 cena Uh [6]
3 Uncertainty about recipients
“Thus far, | have assumed that the recipient is known with certainty at the time the imvesiment
is made, No alfowance kas yet been nade for the possibility that the henefil may eventually go
10 someone other than the intended recipient. As in my previous paper on time preference, T
sll fncarporale uncertainty by assuming that when the boncfit amives, if will he allocated among
potential recipients {inclutling the donor herself} so as to maximize its discounted valuz w the
deomor. As fefore, | mule out the possibility of dimiribiting the benefit among several recipients.
“Le developmen helow differs from thal af my previous paper in two ways. First, it allkws the
otorsction t affect fertility as well is sursival. Second, iL will incorporate diminishing wrginal
rerms to consumplion
31 Model
We begin as before, with txble |. The difference is that, ander vncartainty it is uot the row-suc)
itself hat must equal zeso, but the expected value of this sum. 1 assume changes in fertility ind
survival arc cased hy changes in consamption, ss discussed above in section 2.2.2. In addition. |
use the modet of diminishing purging retums defined above in section 2.3, Lhus, equations 6-7
and 11-12 sllow equation 5 to be 1é cxprossed 15
0 Anand! OP ft
+ Ae Bn 4 0) a)
where # denates the expectation. 1n taking this expectatian, T define v2 4 when there is no
recipient at ul.
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0
The IRS in fitness is obtained by rearronging this expression Io whiain
oa DE oy
MS = = FZ)
or Flan {1 PERN (0
{x ran {1 PN fd -
rela rns) Lam) ws
and yo offn 2) measures the relative importuncs of mains! fertility.
Ln wht Follow, Twill abe <5 a2 50 tc the final term in 7 cisappeam. Ths eects
tention 1 the MRS at points along th. 45° Jn in fur 1. Tn inteigenecational transfers then:
is good rouson far inferead in these selues. At stationary equilibrium, the consumption of an in-
dividual at age 20 saust equal that of her uaghter ane generation hence. Thus, intengonrtiansl
fovestments are governed by the MRS In prossrences along the 15° line, wich must also equal the
MRS in exchiage sud the minginal productivity ul inecgenesational investmeut.! These quanlitics
would all he predicued from the MRS in fitness ulong the 45° line. Tor Iransfers over shorter inter-
vals. there is fess reuson for concen with (ie MRS along the 45° linc, For these cases, the present
approach wil ell only pact of the story.
3.1.1 The evolutionary discount function
“Lio facilitate presentation of mamerical results, | define an evolutionary discouns funczion A, which
salislies
ig mel i”
For example, when A 3x a constant. fomie benefits are discowntor exponentially a @ constant rate.
can accomodte nearly any form af discounting, and is closely related fo the morginal rule ul
ime prefirence (VIRTP}: the average value of 3 over any ags-inierval predicts the MRTP aver that
{ater [15, Eqn. 15]. enable from age-specili ferslity aud survival cota sing the mds
scribed by Rogees [1],
3.1.2 Demographic statistics
Lgcaly, A shaukl be cximated using demographic tistics that rofl some son. af Sangre
average of human demographic history. This, vl vous, is impossible. 1 have instead red om
demogmiphic stil fom modern “nator Fri” popubions, whose vita vate are toggle
10 resemble those of pre-indusriz] populations. 1 would be nawise, however, © take any single:
den popuation a the examplas of ou kaw sncesiers, We donot koa Whether prehistoric
Immim demography was mare similar to hat of 19th cearary ‘iwan, or that of 19th century Utah,
Lo nar just two possinilitics, Nonetheless, it. scuns likely that species-vide mean demographic
Fee 113, p17 aon 115, imine 12]
A dtamit-ferility populatin is on in which birth-control is citar absent. or else iy applieal ladegerdeatly of the
amin of owns xo eben, To El For: prc, women fou os Bh sR 0 ics RS,
Bh ot wit ahi age ny sz 1.
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u
prunes have for & very long time fen within the rauge spanned by modern natural-Fertilicy
populations. Tu my previous pape, | estimated using demographic statistics from a wile variety
of natural. fertiity populations, md found dial this. variation bad fit cffect om Ue answer. Con
sequently, T will restrict attention hese to a single sel of derogeaphic statistics. | uso Fertility and
patesnity dita of 101k century Utah [6] and the Model West life table with morality Jewel 12 [3,
AT]. This mortality Lovet implics that tho expectation of life at bist ¢ is appraisal 45 yeas.
32 Results
Before presenting now resslts, T summicize some ole oncs. Figure 5 shows an evolutionary dis
count function from my sarlier paper on time preference. Tn the figuce, “age at investment” refecs
10 the age st which s cision is made between an immeditc and v delcyed benefit, Ages beyond
The age al investnient ace “futuce ages." Thus, the Tine warked by open circios shows the disccunt
function pertaining Wo some: insesunent tat caight be imdertakon by newhors infants, whores the
Tine marked by Stars pectin 10 investments by young, duit.
To wndorstanel wha hese curves mons, consider a hypothetical 20-year old wom who ha
hen offeced soma survival bosfil thal will sot arrive ual she is AD. Since: she is female and is
ow of ago 20, he starred cusve in the upper panel af figure S upplies. [indicates that the average
discouat sates wiehin the four S-year intervals spanning ages 20-40 ure 0.059, 0.050, 0.012, and
0.007 reopucively. The average of these is 0.032, and this naplies® that the futuro bunciiL should
be discounted ay a fuetor of exp. 28 (4132) — 6.528. the 20-yeur old, therefore, should value
this deluyed benefit at only abot huif of ifs nominal valle. 1a general, orc upplics u MRTP hat is
an average of A over the relevant interval.
The figure illustrates the major conclusions of (he previons analysis:
Jy the lang run, A converges (© a valus of ahaul 29%, very close to the valus predicted by the
‘heuristic argument exding w cupuation 10. This lent support to my conclusion regarciug the
——
« “The curves for different uges of investaent lic ucarly atop ane anodier. Thus, X is well
appronimiated by a function of on pegument: Aly) 5 Ay).
« “I12c evolutionary discount is much higher among young adults than among their cldrs. This
predicts higher marginal aos of me preference among young achulls, a prediction with
which we con all identify.
However. igure 5 doscribes un analysis on suretvd wics ruther thn consumption axes. The
cvplutionary discount function there refers, in elher words. o 8 wade-off between he survival
(aot the consuroption) oF donor and ceclpient. “Lhe methods iniricluced here allow wp wualysis on
omsurption anes, wish varying levels of portance accorded to marginal foriiity aod macginal
survival,
"FT avorugo of A previ 9, the MTR. Thin @i60663 i cq 106 112, va equation | Srplics thal the fain
benctirs discount by a cor 0 =" Whe 7 = 20s he ine ag.
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- Females
Lo Fuge al
ow ntmone
® a
23 Ta
004 Pa Tn
oz >
PamL
00 oJ \Y
TT 1
¢ 10 20 30 40 0 6 0 50 9 100
NP
or Mater
0.06-
| A
a0 1
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marbasch RT @missingfaktor: Breit. Grexit. Departugal. 23Jun2016, Buenos positive
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perspective Ewiarranali andfor Snailhima |
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WichalEinet RT @INTIutsu: IF tha UK dosnt get out now, there 23 Jun 2016, 137 | negative
te wan't be anather chance, x their country wil be. 05.47 CEST
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EN #5tocks #Finance Forex #GEP ASGD ASGOIPY AUnited | 05:17 - CEST Swiasrl
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sunandavae RT @myindeakers Breit Will the United Kingdoms 23 Jun 2016, Houston postive
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Janunos RT @1uémd: 80% of Americans belicee Britain 8 the 23 un 2016. Wash. positive
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a permanencia o salida de Reino Unido on la UE 05:04 CEST
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asirgotravel Harilela Hotels: Braxit will be tough for hotel industry: 23 Jun 2016, Budapes positive
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redrivergd RT @NRO: Breil is prouf thal people are fed up with 23 Jun 2016, negative
government planning: https://t.co/sWpnNhSWi 06:04 - CEST
Barbierels Brexit: los 3 temas que cefinen l referando sobre la 23 Jun 2016, neural
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lumirdta notiven: RT: elmundomovil :CLAVES | 20 puntos para 23 Jun 2016. neutral
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am permanenca osalidade Reina Unido en (3 UF: 10s 5:04 - CFST
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ATT RT @dibya shareluz: Merb Kya llogah Kiya? 23 un 2016, Na
#Brexit #Rexit Exit hitps://t.co/Oirowb51lub 06:04 - CEST
odemei 87 RT @Reutors: Oil prices rise as markets on 25 Jun 2015, 0 [neutral
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hoe Shaffsld today. If wa can maximise our LEAVE tun 05:01 - CEST
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epatrader Alert en losmercados: os dos. escenarios del frexit: 23 Jn 2016, Shangri- negative
Silos bri inicos votan hoy por ali de a UE, lasbo... 05:08 COST La
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Nyaranar RT @AMTrumpAPRES: 1d ie 2 dedicate ths tweet 2 23 Jon 2016, Derwar, 21 | positive
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Thel6ihCha RT @W axCRaser: This is Boris Jahnson before he 231n 2016, Walerh 77 | positive
per realised thal Bret would be his chance to become 05:22 CIST aplon
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Wanuelsign ACEI in del suefto europea? Brexit'o Dremain', los 23 Jun 2016, Panchim | negative
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loupaBS RT @ProfTimRale: The ea that Faglish nationalism 23 Jun2016, FRANCE 10 | negative
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Tnestonke RT @Fabes: Poll 80% of Americans think Britain 23 Jn 2016, posite
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Carsonsievi RT @missingfator: Brant. Graxit Depariugal En 006, Naw posting
" tales. muckoff, Crechaut, Oustri, finish, 051-CFST York, NY
Slovakout. Latervia. Byegium.
Fernand SV ACI fin del sudo curopeo? Breil’ o Bromain’ los 23 kn 2016, San negative
brithinicas deciden suf futuro: 06:21 - CEST Salvador
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FnaelaYa3 RT @hcordinaryrand: This a my Flag i fLyous.7 23 hun 2005, pote
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Finklinincia RT @DasShakticanta: If Breit happens, India fs ready’ | 23 Jun 2016, New neutral
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ValulaNews | ruders plan for allnight Brexit vigil 23 Jun 2016, neutral
https: co/IAPOBSabaw AValutaews 06:30 - CEST
https /7t.cofScaxubmata
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{] https:/it.co/VBXIkLAhON #Brexit 06:39 - CEST
chruhiler RT @catoletters: Defeat the Establishment: Brexit 23Jun2016. Los negative
https: ca/FsampHpaQs 06:39 - CFST Angeles
Tanguilem La Brexit en tA%te Gans deux sondage: 231002016, france positive
https/fLoo/hiALDpIkY 05:39 - CLS1
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Brent. What happens it rolls 3 critical failure? 06:30 CEST Switaerl
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inquik lent pour cur aver, ART 05:39 COST
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fizza roha RT @itradeph: Asian Stacks flat/lower as count down 23 Jun 2016, Republic negative
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Post_lecla RI @francofontanadd: Brexit, Il problerra 23 un 2016, Vicchio, negative
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Trumpindah The EU doesn't care about you. Why care for them? 25 Jun 2016, Tampa, © [negative
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shaunmeg3 AT @Dwalingen: Very telling, very bus: the Remain 23Jun 2016, Sautha 2a | negative
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Tilonaria RT @rylimes: Brexitvote heady has a vinner: the 23 Jon 2016, Espana posite
gambling industry 0526 CES
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britkinicos deciden suf futuro 06:36 - CEST
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Joanberna If youwant, today... forest: 23 Jun 2016, © negative
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Wadjaknow RT @5weclCacophony: (1/2) If see JBrexit, #Boris wil 25 Jun 2016, 1 | negative
mae on HCameron. A GE will be forcad WCarbyn wil 8:36 - CEST
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v.sabia RT @arkteguicnn: Julio Milin y Francsco Gil 23 1un 2016, 52 | neutral
analizan can Carmen @risteguicnn el referADndum 08:36 CLST
por el llamado "Brexit” tps: cofiAQTS€|
byrie2013 RT @Elabathburley: Vote tomorrowwhatever your 23 Jun 2016, Suny, 2796 | negative
persuasion. I for dlirexit & praise to neither gloat 07.13- CEST nzland
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allo disastrozo per a 07:13 cst
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Capelawega RT @V_of Europe: Dutch poll leader Geert Wilders | 231un 2016, Breda neva
wants a Net after a Drextt, 0713 -Cesi
hitps:/it co/R4CQIDIAKA
Valentino RT @ronaldlecssig: Gesstze macht von dermich 23 kn 2016, berlin neutral
a geswiinhiten BFUKar-r sion. Wir wollen hemolatia 07:13 -CFST german
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Sandramart Ese matrimonio necesita Terapia y no un Serco. A 231un 2016, PERRE negative
o hrs de suberlo @InfobaeAmericu: #8rexit; Hembla un 07-13 - €LS1
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Chadistore RT @robecenk: GTberytaran They're gonna chicken 23 Jom 2016, eget
se aut... eit htps:/ft.cojacaTICeD] 07:13 CFT
bigirvenkya AT @TINE: Mud, music and 120our traffic jams.as 23 Jun 2016, Entebbe neutral
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jeanclaure RT @KimJongUnique: Fn cas de #Rrexit, Halland sera 23 Jun 2016, 13 | neutral
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EY misura, guida divers: onestamente nan ho ai 08:22 CEST - Italy
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Vasaraham RT @Davidlo52851835: Stuff i up your luncer 28 Jun 2016, positive
mer hitps:/ft.co/RhTEBLEch 1529 cesT
SWStrongen RT @BECCormwal: ? Corral has bensitied hugely 23 Jn 2016, poste
n from EU funds] a postarexit government maintain 15:47 -CLS1
same levels of support? PEUREISH
Phaeria_ka Im #ahosrix Studia spricht Sonja Fubrreann mit Tun 2006, Bonn neutral
™ Holger Gei flor @YouGav DF & Tanja Bfiel 15.47 CPST
@FU_Berln 16h ¢Broit https://t.co/jeqar- bing
forexDailyT FISE: Global Stocks Jump as Broxil Odds Tank 28 Jun 2016, neutral
A https: ft.co/S2Sm Such 15:47 CEST
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waste af ime, bUE hare is our fay. rexic 5:47 - CPST
ilps: cord HIAEYNZ
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ter 15:47 CEST
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dbenle RT @arketWatch: Stocks In rally rode as Drexic vote 23 Jn 2016, NY 11 | positive
gets under way https://t co/UyUzxRNBgu 15:47 - CEST
BrendaPach AT @sleconomista: Con o sin ABrexi, Ia Uniien 25 Jun 2006, Wiexico negative
2coP Europea no ser la misma... Te decimos por QuAS: 15:47 - CEST city
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AnnaSophia RT @HaliansaTrummp: God Sears ta Na Veting for 23Jun 2016, Toronto positive
_Tors Brent Breitbart 15:47. cesT
60D WL NCLD YOU AT THIS MOMCNT!
Voteleave tleave FBrexit FERS! hips:/3€ |
Choodieum @lohnClarke 1050 &YourkirEumbles Sor in London 23 Jun 2016, Camual positive
ma in '32 1 soon learnt who could be trusted & who could 15:47 €ST |
not. Brexit leaders r not ta be trusted.
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OnStar as RT EN arshallEla: rex voters ara the type of people 23 Jun 2016, Munerk a] poste
bh who go on holiday to Spain und requesta full Lnglish ~~ 15:47 -CLS1 in land
breakfast everyday.
Sanderson RT @FFA_ORG: The #Braxit vote s today. Here ara the 251un 2016, Alanis, negative
argument far and againet remaining in the Furopean 15.47 - CFT GA
Union in one chart. https:/ft.co/23€ |
happyburke RT @ionahaakblog: "want you to fire me." 2510 2016, Toronlo positive
an @DanHamnanhIEP gives 3 superb ABrexit Lasve pitch 15:47 - CEST
al Oxford Ontario
https:/ft.co/HEUEACO
TasTak RT @ronaldlaessig: In AGroAVbritanmien hat die 5100 2016, neutral
#Brextabstieir ung begannen. 36,5 Mio GA irger 15.47 - CFST
aber sich reiblricren ase und KSNinnen bis 226€;
soottsicpker Da you find the term #Broxit annoying. {| vote yes!) 23Jun 2016. Des negative:
15:17 CEST Wioinas,
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we will noi about Jar tomorrow [ST .. smallcaps. 15:04 CEST
will explode tororraw iro
Shockster67 #ioted Wrexit Weave 23102016, Vorkshir positive
wos ase
lle las tall gbrexit hitps:/ft.coffilséaily 23 Jun 2016, negative
ed 16:04 - CEST
honlnbo RT @golub: 'Brexit’ to be followed by Grexit. 23)un 2016, 127.0.0. 1776 | positive
Departuzsl taizave. Fruckaff, Crachaut. Oustra, 18.04 CFST 1
Finish. Slovakoul Latervia. Bycgium.
Tavssen | 8€who conspiracydte: BRLXIT lradumark registrant 23 Jun 2016, Cologne neutral
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Cevlrar #internacionales Inmigrante china a favor del Brexil 23)un2016, [nlavi neutral
porque su “er pleado espafzal siempre esth; 16:04 CEST a
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kazyl arr Stephanie | landers beim Hlandelsblatt: 3E2Ein Brexit 23 Jun 2016, Augsbur negative
whrde die turke Enger verunsichernat 16:01 CEST 3
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roxyloveslue @CliunaBenadur @dswngpsalmé3 . Please #Broxit!!! 23 Jun 2016. Indiana. neutral
¥ its thair fast hope. 16:08 - CEST
Cyberhctual https://t cofpNooScopeh UBNDration fr: Un Braxit 23 Jun 2016, negative
ite coRmlerait 19 du PIL aux Busses 1504 -cist
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Tarbas RT @Daviichat: PBrext down to 157%, lowest Tun 2005, 522207 hegative
kelihood of leaving since BPredictiVice trading 15.04 -CFST 35415.
started 1/1/15. Aso, Pounds just hil yearly ha 458034
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Seren Dipit_#Noticias Inmiarante china 3 favor del Brevtporque | 23 Jn 2016, Caracas. neutral
va? st "erpleads espadol siempre est; dormid” 1504 cust
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ker should leave the EL. Theyre right. fread 16:01 - CEST
£ChooseWisely https://t.cof7pHIROGKFm
bolsarmania RT @lunalosefi 10 fondo. de inversi®n para ganar 23 Jun 2016, tadrd 2 | neutral
dinero con ol reforADndum un Reino Unido, hayaa 15:04 - CLS
no Brexit https cof MjShtx JE Aa SBals€
Fle RT @6_Dussausaye: a rAGponse & GVOANews: 23 Jun 2016, barseil 7 [negative
360m wl ive the British freedom, and it willshow 15.04 -CEST
we can renegotiate EU treaties. #Bresit
huipse
ot ares RI @CalcGoopalilico: BBrexil por TAIa A regh 28 1un 2016, Poste
#Regnolnito rianga o esca dail ¢UE? Diteci a vostra__ 16:04 - CEST
Tambo_unch I'm weirdly excited about the #Srexit vata today? 23 Jun 2016, positive
ained 15.04 - CEST
Fianfichard Drie in Germany eft furving! by Brexicpoling card 23 Jan 2016, 1eksinkd, negative
son fiasco hitps://t.co/YbOGDNATe via 16:04 CEST Finland
@ThelocalGermany
Horonzoud RT @valkskrant: Erdogan overwaest Ak en 23 Jun 2016, negative
referendum over de LU Le howden Mliveblog Abend 1521 €LST
hitps:/ft.co/WKUP3TLID tps: cojySFTuHrmhg
nkermttus RT @galub: ‘Brexit to be followed by Grexit. Tun IE, Card ToT | postive
es Departugal. aleave. [ruckoff. Czechout. Oustia. 15.21 - CEST
Finish. Slovakout. Latervia, Byegium.
machincOL_ RT @Snomdon No matter the outcore, werent polls 23 Jun 2015, 5 | neutral
Pz demonstrate how quickly half of any population can 16:21 - CEST
be convinced Lo vale: against ise, GRE}
mwengway @ReDelineLurope @LUWalchers @Sharel his Bulbhil 23 Jun 2016, vlna
| eBret 16:21 cesT
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bio. hinAPtese de "Drexic” (sais do Reuni Unida da 1521-CFST Alegre
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sreatidtya RT @phiblockworld: O Broxit Day! Callooh! Calley! 23 Jun 2016, Wichisa 26 | positive
u SSCHN $5PY SCLF Futures hitpssfftco/NVWINps) 1621 -CEST
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Yewetletery RI @Snowden: No maller the aulcore, #8rexit polls 23 un 2016, Sion 6 | neutral
quiz demonstrate how quickly halt of any population an 16:21- CEST Valley.
be convinced to vate gaint self, QE]
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GARCIac RT @ClementCin: Ja sus contra Ie FBresft mals je suis 23 Jn 2016, negative
ueli2 pour fa Darr du modi'le europADen | 1521 -aust
#BrexitOrMot
Tacketnews Even France would LEAVE tha 3€ 5aa2¢~ EU Fit had a | 23 Jun 2016, © [poste
refersncum, top french philosopher say: 3821 -CFST
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NolihoyPeru Cncucsta | 55 % de los bridhnicos estiin encontra 23 Jn 2016, Lima, © | neutral
del Brexit >>» http t.cojActeznsyl 1621. CEST perke
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dl Brenit 23» httpsit.co/COenGFUD| 16:21-CEST a
tps. f/1.00/17pP5YbLIm
bethancrow RT @WilfredFrost: What could follow rex? leave. 23 Jun 2016, | positive
don Cechout. Qustria. Finch. Slovakout. Latcrvia. 12 cos
Byegium. Or roy persons favourite D3€ |
Ceifrance RT @CCR_NardFrance: SEREXIT Quan persent les 250un 2006, Franca neutral
entrepreneurs franfgais vin @ccifrance 181-CFST Paris
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WelyndaCar AT @scottdgordon38: | tain for the #Brext AEURE! | 23 Jun 2016, Siicon positive
diel vate with @Umdstr & unlocked ry awn lg Profile 1621+ CEST Valley
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Sater AT @paulwaugh: Cus to how strong the Breit vote 23 Jun 2016, postive
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7 #helpus Abraxit hitps:/Jt cojeX5e3RTY 16:21 cesT
DanclaEl RT @Snowden: No maticr the outcore, ¥Brext polls 23 hun 2016, Wadid 5 | neutral
demonstrate how quickly half of any population an 16:1 - CFST
be convinced lo vole against sel, GE!
Theayred RI Bovertonlez: sal shoul who do you nie the 23 Jan 2016, Tega
mast #Brexit ARemain fcidebate 16:38 - CEST
ilps /1tcofv2la crit
fosyiour RT @pascalbauche Qual de rien pour lstrer fe 23 Jun 2016, neutral
chois historique qu offre aux Anglais! #Brexit 16:38 CEST
#Gofirexit HFA https. //1.co/0TUXRKGCls
Gide carlo RT @Australlaumuiak: fotel eave foday To secure 23 Jn 2016, 7 [poste
Breil Thisis the Fulure nal swaily ws should we 1638. CLST
#otaramain @Strongarin hitps:fjt o/c!
Stephend2] @LeeReynoldsDUT Spoke to Cary Simon says she’s 23 Jun 2016, _ Belfast negative
sar? “leaving on a Jet plane doesn't known when shell be 15.38 CEST Norther
back to EU again” #Brexit n
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Whoshauldl RT @USA_FRFFDOM NOW: Godspeed, Whrexit Stick 23 Jn 2016, _ United positive
Volos iL Lo the global. We §Trrp warriors stand united 15:38. GIST Slates
with you.
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Slexcapron Les Brith, vous prendre bien un croissant 7 3102016, Parks reual
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ans praise 0 sta... where was all this interact when we 15.38 CFST ham,
performed in the Eurovision #hrexit England
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narrow marin. #Erussels chastened. Britain 16:38 CEST York
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manipulated *hitps://t.co/L7PoTBHIs1 15:38 CEST
Sucvanler RT @NOS: Ongeach do uilkormsL van hl 25002016, London, 5 | negative
t brexitreferencum wil Merke! met regeringsleiders 16:38 - CEST England
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en bres. You con do hic Britain. You sel have what 18.38 CFT
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Pepecongal RT @NissRoxyW usic: Si ol Brexil jode al dAflar, usted 23 Jun 2016, Guadala, negative
eo va sabe lo que sigue. 1638- CEST jara de
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matiels7 #Brexit right be the best thing for the UK..but it 23 Jun 2016, Johanne: negative
dosn't lock good for the EU 16:38 CEST _sburg
Cantiingh Comently Orifing towards EU__ABret Core, my 23 un 2016, rewtral
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ber restent Le DIRECT MAFP sur fe Prexic 16:38 CEST wth,
htlps-#/LoofSd8IpHhenh hilps://Lco/Du?sX2IHSE] Wales
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Tijunazem RT @aToro: In or out? Either way, 1 affects the 310n2016, Earth 78 negative
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Warsiopadi RT @SacFcontiag: Stee | dies of GRMTunion 23m 2016, leicestn 33 | positive
: makes the trade union case for dlexit 1655 CEST.
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Womicht AT @PaulbernalUK: fBresit people want to fusepens 23 n2016, Furope 7 | negative
because MIS are rubbing oul Uheir voles bul voling lo 16:55 CLST
ero ane of the few areas of awa |
Jameslewis AT @Daily_Express: Holland SACKS Brexit Dutch 23102016, Hamilto 38 | negative
wre people urge Britons 1 QUI doomed bloc SEUref 18.95 -CESI
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AGIubal_ The Impact of Breton the Luropean Looney 25 un 2016, Poste
Neda Market hitps:/t.co/skyFGTEIS0 16:35 - CEST
tropicalzoe | ActzOut for the #Brext AEURel vote with @Brdsir 23 Jun 2016, _rosewo positive
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ve #Bresit winning htpsift.co/STEOOVOZIC 16:55 - CEST
‘dnetuork [#SmallBusiness #Erexit PUK] How The rex Vota 23 Jun 2016, negative
Could 1urt Smal Business ening In The U.S. 15.55 - CEST
@forbes httys:/t.cofPH/IDOGTZ
minthceab RT @stcphonBulld: ir Cameron said | might lose 23 kn 2016, Kent positive
few QuIG | vote leave. Just remember what we asked 16:35 - CEST
these guys o give, Brent WIDE,
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Congr RT @HuwGruffydd: UK Brest vote: WV usii- 25 Jun 2016, 1 [negative
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Remain Bar en yd konleaindikalor pA hur otrolisl 1655 CLST (Raven
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lcaroic Ln Reino Unido of breil y aqui Muskie Leiva, 28002016, eekerral neutral
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Fhansalfl RT @rissinglakior, Brent. revit Deparugal Tn 201, Moral posite
leave. ruckolf, Cvehuul, Our, nish. 15h CST indi.
Slovakout. Latervia. Byegium.
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unlocked ry own [ag Profile picl What ill you vote? | 17.17 - CEST
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Dunc RT @missnafaklor. Breil. Grit, Deparusal 22002006, Nolin 5723 | positive
Italsaue. Fruckoff. Crechau, Oustiia Finch, ATAD-CEST Kansas
Skovakoul, Laleruia, Bregiom, Anprar
Geanowila RT @Geeaay013: Rare we go folks, Next They wil 23 1un 2016, _southa postin
ms? be arresting people far ating leave] dbrexic 17.12 CEST mpton
#VoleLeave hips f1.cofuBbLACAL02
cdavids7ed RT @nylimes: Maing Brifing: Here's whalyou 28 hun 2016, 38 | positive
aid nasdito know to start your day 17:12. CEST
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commodity RT @jrhapkin: #hrest: a handy way af allowing the 931m 2016, India 1 | negative
ways) poor togel angry shout incauality without challenging 17:12 CEST
the people responsible? hitps://13¢.
spina AT @toadmeister: WioteLeave WBrexit 23102016, Erighten 178 | posites
independence Day hips 1 cofieN | CERNL 12a
Wikelelosegl RI @hugor abarca: Los que dicen que todos los 23 hn 2016, Gastelz 52 | positive
ap expaliLoles tenemos que votar sobre Cataluhza 17:02 CEST (Euskal
parce nas influye Adexigen que vatemos of Brexit? Herria}
bosepdd RT @Finabethuriey: Vota tamorrawwhataver your 3 Jn 2016, 3515 | negative
persuasion. I'm for #BrexlL& promise to neither gloat 17:12. COST
nor whings. But VOTE: hitps.3€!
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TanKing383 You ruled ost of the world by yourself, why doyou 23 Jun 2016, Tegative
need the FU now? firexit 12.17 crsT
muse RT @MONFY: 3 reasons Americans should care about 23 un 2016, |agos, neutral
the BEUre! hitpsi//L.colaSisgo304C 17:12 COST Nigeria
Taylormarsh RI BENBC: A Breil could be coslly, warns 2H un 2016, Washing Tega
@Davie_Cameron. Everything you need to know 7:12 -CEST ton, D.C
about FEU: hits: //LcofATLOHS BAT Beltway.
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Fishad0uk #iVoted for #Brexit today! Britain should not by ruled 25 hun 2016, Toronto negative
aver by foreign glabalist sites! Areferendur TA CFST Canada,
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England
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brondit lb menace di€une torrente mondiale 17-12 CLS
{@novopress https:t.co/ovaqAsPn
Sanaliaaza RT @WifredFrost: What could follow Breit? taleave. 23 1un 2016, 312 | positive
Crachout. Qusiria. Finish. Sovakout. | atervia. 12.17 CPST
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ton Britin's Braxit referendum oaks too closead. 17:12 -CEST an,
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Weaitass RT @ViaWeb: Sraulromeva: 566 #Brexit 23 Jun 2016, neutral
desmenteix que una Catalunya independent sorliia 17-12 - CLS
d Ia UESE™ heaps: cof EwyASF3I0D
BRESU_ RT @Daily_Express: Turkish migrants to CRIPPLE the 23 Jun 2016, UNITED 50 | neutral
NHS’ €irexit minister's stark WARNING about FU 12.12 -CFST KINGDO
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an vino? 17:12 cesT
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Whichever way, play the Ulti-ate EU Referendum 17:20- CEST ster, UK
Urinking Gare. BLUR! hips://LcofboPavmis
oul RI @eulb: Brexi' o he followed by Greil, 23 Jun 2016, 2723 positive
Departugal. taleave. Fruckaff. Czechout. Oustria 17:20 cesT
irish, Slosakout, Lateruia, Byegium.
kraftwddre #freit Breit fireait Ich kann's nicht mehr hfrent 23 Jun 2016, Nieders © | negative
Lass! sie doch sichen Wann. Dic Wel drcht sich 17:29 CEST achsen,
weiter. Laberiaber. Macht ander Arbeit Deutsch
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Hilankaren | voled oul ¥VoleLeave Bex iret 23 Jun 2016, Newest © positive
#TakeBackControl htps://t.co/iMOSFureni 17:20 CEST le Upon
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England
aimutmocl RT @1152: #Brerit and me longht on Gdv_giobal 23 Jun 2016, Berlin {neutral
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chemical industry & scientists 17:29 CEST ton DC.
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Hononsakuz RI @faky¥uno: idea. Sbrexit 23 Jn 2016, Moscow 2 | neutral
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wajpdi RT @Amblohnohion: Retueet 10 show your support 23 Jun 2016, New 284 | positive
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#weantout 7AG- CEST States
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Toke_sw2 RT @uiScllerRyan B0% of Americans (ink the UK. 23 Jun 2016, SC, USA 70 | positive
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no demonstrate how quickly halt of any population can 20:34 - CEST
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Joniellingl RT @Grahamsmith : Absolutely. Next referendum 23 Jun 2016, York 24 | positive
should be on the monarchy. hitps:/t.co/dd7irilvis 20:34 - CEST
BtzMedina RT @DailyWiror: Brexit the horse ran at Newbury 23 Jun 2016, 5 | negative
today but where did it finish? tps. ft. co/FIbU4iGe86 | 21:11 - CEST
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that their #Ofishore #Panama inharitances will ba st 21:11 - CEST
isk if they #vioteLeave Erexit hse |
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Byegium. Or roy personal favourite DE |
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por bi perr-anencia se disparan al 843 21.17 -crsT
https:/{t.co/fODEyAUSSEY vAa @Bolsamania
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like in the dark heart of Brau, but there's just a pall of 21:11 - CEST Sumey
despair everywhere.
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preference to stay in EU 21:11 - CEST
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alfinghikarra di non uscire dal Europa nelle ore pif! 21:11 - CEST
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Coundllortd RI @NicholasPegs; 5€was Srexil, and theshity 23 Jun 2016, Holywell 11 | negative:
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estate in Hammarsmith. Leave outnumbered Remain 21:28 - CEST ire UK
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#brexit economic plan, what's "their plan’ when the 21:28 - CEST
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the battle i won. Vote & celebrate UK Independence 21:15 - CEST
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Rathehildha RI @iohnnyVedmore: demain in the EU and lel 28 hn 2016, rack positive
ter sleeping dogs lay. #Brexit AVateStay AVoteRemain 22:02-CEST orth,
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“Orfandotil RI @lalelalushos Ahad of Thursday s FBroAl le, 23 hun 2016, Florida, negative
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JohnG300 AT @FoxBusiness: Does Queen Elizabeth want the UK 23 un 2016, _ Charlot 7 positive
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Tryon_bioe RT @Dwalingen: VOTE! Bon stay home. Dan think 23 Jun 2016, Breatam posite
net the baltke is won, Vole & celebrate UK Independence 22:19 -CLSI n Mhir
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nos 22.19-CFST NY
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Churchymat RT @NichalasPegz: 36 Twa Grex, and thasithy 231un 201, Sydney 30 | negative
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a acojonados con el brexit, a ver quiSiCn los enseKtaa 22:19 - CEST
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Sabet RE Fania uy ALF col sresds
Etuchments: magecoing
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Wo continue tesco fur upside in financials,
«Erika Najrian, BAW fara research analyst, jun return from a marketing ip. Bottom ns: North
Armerica investor. are very bullish the ak lang ony AN hed funk AND mar ud], ut oan cance dort
om cough". Note at igh ouch flows have sowed down sical ince Thanksgiving and here he bing hs
been concentrated in XLF {every client sector we have has been a better buyer of XLF).
SE Cn ous
31 Reuion: EXCTer-en, withthe base case hat 5 nt petting worse
2i Sentiment on ates Cautiously bullsh
3} Sentiment on growth: Ass bullch
41 Seniment on Corporate as rate ais upside mare hull than sellside. In 1985, bank toc caplod upward
{outperforming the S&P) after Reagan's tax reform bill passed the Senate; and 2] in 2003, the last time we saw personal
a ut, loan gone nd wide accelerated in 2003 and 2008,
+ Pigg Pushin om ning sector a current lov: Toa fort fst: FRX 18.00% pot lection; Valuation
coming inlo question and Q4 has Lypically been a seasonally weak qlr. Bulls defend valuation on “8esls wilh potential
pide 10 0L8 EPS fram ~25-407s and stocks hl hao vi. dresonary
«Price actan and santiment keeps us constructive, we the long nt would expect US financials ta benefit
from any betashase inte year ond.
. How to play it? We still like “appearing” call spreads on XLF.
© Ruy manth 105% callvith a dnot 110% that knack iF IF trades abe 1155 rin th fe of the
rade for L15% premium cost
2 ras ma papot knockin s triggered: 2.65 0%/L75%)
Regards,
Amanda
Amands En
Director | Global Equities
Fink of Amerie Meri] Lynch
erly, Pierce, Fenner & Smith Tncorporied
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Unierweight positioning, buybacks resuaring, posiive r-omenturs and strong fundamentals ol indicate Ural there i sill
further upside potential in financials {more details below. Our financials sector specialist chinks XLF could have another
20-25% upside given the many levers to the Irump rade: les regulation, higher interest ales, higher vol, econoric
growth, Ioan growth, ste. The asset sensitive regional banks are more of 2 pura play on 3 rates move but wa view the.
larger can bank as hang mull-pronged upside given the aforementioned points.
That sad, given the velocity and magnitude of the recent move and uncertainty around the impact and timing of
Trump's policies, we believe options offer better risk rcward Un being oulright lon financials stocks here. With lal
call skew, “appearing” call spreads with upside knock-is price wll.
Buy a 1 year KLF call spread for 2.6% premium
© Byalsal
© Sella 117.5% call with an at eupiey knockin at 125% (all i not active unless XLF i 125% or higher at xpiry]
© Totapreriur 876%
© Gross max payoff il lock ins tigeered: 2.0n (7. 5%/2.0%)
© Gross max payoff knockin s not triggered: 8.7% (14812 64) you have upside up 10 124.85
Past lection Flow Skews - Buyers of Health Care (via ETFs) and Financials (mally ETFs)
© US Buyback Flows
= Cons Disc, Technology and Financials re the largest 3 sectors for US buybacks {over 70% of execution). We
are seeing a seasonal increase in buybacks 2s ve come out cf the low seasanal moreh of the year (October) and should
see Increase buyback executions unl year-end, another source of upside for the Cons is, Technology and | nanclals
sectors
Global Positioning, Nigel Tuppar, 11/11. Large long-only funds are more underweight Financials than any other sector
and are UW this sector In al regions.
Future of Financials conference hosted 90 public and privat: companies af air Future af Financials conference. We srr
ising our price objectives across most of our names. Thrce primary reasons why we think there is upside reraining
after the recent rally: 1) an improved aulook on both activity levels and interest rates, driving revenue upside; 2)
potently lower repulstory burden, particlary ws ns supervisory kaderhip can com with the new acminisration;
ana 3) relatively ighter pasrioning in US financials vs. other sectors. {Erika Najarian]
Trades Gaining Momentum: Finance Related Assets vs. S&P 500
10 he period ince the IS presidential lection, th three top-performing SGP sectors and industry araups nave all been
finance rated (Barks, Financials, Diversified Financials)
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Source: Kensho Technologic:
the How Sho, Micha! Hartnett, 11/18, Violent rotation: record equity LIF inflow, record financials inflow, biggest
bane outflow in 3.5 yrs, record EN dabt outflow.
Regards,
Aranda
Amanda Fins
Diccetor | Global ities
Bank of America Merrill Lynch
Mentill Lynch, Picree, Fenner & Smith Incorporated
One Try Purk Sit Floor New York NY 10036
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Thank you Jeffrey. Notional bs $18,265,000, 1 be back wilh fal trade dota
Tels try, 250k premium
Ou Fri, Doe %, 2016 at 11:46 AM, Ens, Amando I +o:
We cintinue 0 see furlher upside in finmeils.
« Frika Najarian, BAMI nancial research analyst, just refumed from a marketing tip. Battam line: Nerth American
iwestors arc very bullish the banks (long only AND hedge funds AND mart funds), but then conclude I don't own
enough®. Note that high touch flows have slowed dawn significantly since Thanksgiving and where the buying has been
woncentraled in XL (every dient suelor we have has been a eller buyer of XLH.
- Client focus
1) Regulation: Excitement, with the base case that t's not getting viarse.
2) Sentiment on rates: Cautioushy bullish
31 Sentiment on growth: Also bullish
a) Sentiment on corporat tx rate cut: buyside more bulish than selsice. In 1985, bank stacks exploded upsard
{outperforming the SF) ater Reagan's lo reform bil passed the Seales and 2) in 2003, Uh ast Ur we sa persons!
tax cuts, loan growth industry wide accelerated in 2003 and 2004.
«Biggest Pushback on owning sector at current levels: Too far too fast: BEX 418,003 post lection: Valuation corning
into question and 0d has ypicaly been seasonally weak at. ull defend vauatian on “I8ests. with potential upside 1o
2018 LPS (ror: 25 40% und stocks still cheap vu. discretionary.
= Price action snd sentiment keeps us constructive, se is the long, and would expect US nancial Lo benefit from
any beta chase into year end.
+ Howtoplayit? We still like “appearing” call spreads on XLF
Buy a § month 105% cal with a short 110% cll tat knack inf XLF rads above 115% during he He of the trade
for 1.75% premium cast
= Gross imax payoll if knock ini Uiggered: 2.8% (5.0%/1.75%]
Ciross or, payeelT i kinakein is not triggered: $,6% (0.9%¢1.7563) — yon bane upside up lo 114.9%
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Resunte
Amanda
Dirzetor | Global Equitios
Thnk of Ameri Merl Foch
One Beyaar Park Sth Floor New York, NY 10026
roo JD ivi IO
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20 25% upside given the many levers to the Trump Trade: less regulation, higher interest rates, higher vol, economic.
© Grows max payoff if knock ins Lriggered: 2.9% (7.5%(2.5%)
Post Election Flow Skews + Buyers of Health Care (via ETFs) and Financials {mainly ETFs}
J
+ Cons Dist; Technology sud Finuncisls ure the bugest 3 sectors for US buybucks (over 70% ul execution). We
lulal tioning, Nigel Tupper, 11/14, Lurge long-ouly funds are more underweight Fimucials tha any other
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alter Lhe recent rally: 1) an improved oullook on both uctivily levels and interest rates, driving revenue upside; 2)
erat home soo outers PoE pa Sopot onda TRE a coe i man SRE}
{3 relatively hte poskiorng in US fireioks va. other sector, Teka Naaran)
Trades Galning Momentum: Fnance-Related Assets vs S&P 500
Inthe pried since the Us presidential scion, the th top-performing S&P ssctrs and industry groups have all bas
‘ies Gang Mma Fear: Anes 547 50
im
ihe Sh, Wichael Harte, 13/1, Vioent rollins record ely E11 inflow cord financials nfo, bigest
Dan culo in 3.5 yr, record EM debt outfow.
Director | Global equities
Bank of America Merrill Lynch
Meanill Lynch, Pierce, Fenner & Smith Tncorporuted
One Tryon Park Sih Flr New York, NY 16036
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eH February 24-26, 2017
ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY Chollenges of Artificiol Inteltigence:
Envisioning and Addressing Adverse Outcomes
1) FINANCIAL MARKETS
A, Tearing Systems. ond Market Monjpulation
Chair: Michael Wellman
Red Team: Miles Brundage, Randy Bryant, Gary Marchant, Jaan Tallinn
Blue Team: Michael Littman, Greg Caoper, Yan Shashitaishuil, Frank Wikzek
2) DEMOCRACY, INFORMATION, AND IDENTITY
A, Information, and Democracy
Chair: Shahar Avin
Red Team: Miles Brundage, Sedn G hfigearlaigh, Andrew Maynard, Eric Horvile
Blue Team: Gery Vsrchant, Girecja Rar ace. Wichacl Litmar. Sbbsrao Kambhempati, Jeremy Gills
3) WAR & PEACE
A ilitary Systems, ond Stability
Chair: Bart Selman
Red Team: Richard Malah, Eric Horuitz, Michael Wellman, Frank Wilczek
Blue Team: Vinh Nguyar, Kathlean fisher, Lawrence Krauss, John Launchbury, Rachel Bronson
4) Al, CYBERSECURITY, AND Al ATTACK SURFACES
Al Attacks on Computing Systents, Devices, Infrastructure (focus)
Manipulation & Disruption of & Systems
Chair: Kathicen Fisher
Red Team: Jeffrey Coleman, John Launchbury, Vinh Nguyen, Mauno Pihelgas
Blue Team: Ashish Kapoor, Randy Bryant, Yan Shoshilaishuil, en Zorn
5) Al, GOALS, AND INADVERTENT SIDE EFFECTS
Runaway Resource Monopoly (focus)
Seif-tmprovemend, Shit of Objectives
Chair: Sean O hEigeartaigh
Red Team: Jaan Tallinn, Nate Soares, Jeff Coleman, Bart Selman
Blue Team: Dario Amodei, Greg Cooper, Shahar Avin, Ben 2orm
6) DEEP LONG-TERM SOCIETAL INFLUENCES
A, Agency, ond Dissmpausecment
Chair: Girceja Ranade
Red Team: Richard Maliah, Andrew Maynard, Nate Soars, Mauno Pihelgas, Jeremy Gillula
Blue Team: Subbarao Kambhampat, Lawrence Krauss, Daria Anode, Frank Wilczek
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Envisioning and Addressing Adverse Outcomes
1) FINANCIAL MARKETS
AL Trading Systems, ond Market Monipulation
{incorparating contributions by Michael Wellman and others)
There has been advances in the realm of trading in financial markets with the use of autonomous
decision systems, Financial markets now aperate almost entirely electronically, over networks with
relatively well-scoped and well-defined interfaces. Markels generale large quantities af data at high
velocity, which require algorithms to digest and assess state. The dynamism of markets means that
timely responses to information are critical, providing a strong incentive to take slow humans out of
the decision laap. Finally, Lhe rewards available for effective Irading decisians arc large, ensbling a
commensurate devotion of resources toward talent and effort to develop and analyze technically
sophisticated strategies.
The rewards and pervasive automation are 3 tempting target for market manipulation. Thus there are
potential incentives la employ deceptive tactics designed to mislead counterparties about morket
conditions or world state, toward the goal of exploiting misted participants for profit.
“Manual” marke! manigulalian—{rom spaofing to oulright raud—is prevalent in financial markets
today. Al can amplity the magnitude and effectiveness of manipulative behavior, degrading market
efficiency or even subverting the essential economic functions of global capital markets. For example,
aulemalion can enable mare rapid and massive simultaneous allacks on eleciranic markets, and
adaptive capabilities may persistently evade known detection methods.
DISCUSSION
What are key costly scenarios that we might come to expect and their time frames? What might be
done to counter this direction and help to keep markets efficient and functioning well? How might
adversaries and Incentives lead to a thwarting of such attempts?
POTENTIAL GOALS
Identify ley challenges ahead, Including very costly outcomes. Identify key directions with best
practices, mechanism design, monitoring and regulatory activity to help to thwart poor outcomes.
REFERENCES
. Harris. The fear index. Hutchinson, 2011.
Summary: hitps://en wikipedia.org /wiki/The Fear index
M.P., Wellman and U. Rajan. Ethical issues for autonomous trading agents. Minds & Machines,
2017. dai:10.1007/511023-017-9419-4
hitp://strategicreasoning.org/publications/2016-2 2/minds machines wr
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2) DEMOCRACY, INFORMATION, AND IDENTITY
A, information, and Democracy
{incorporating contributions from Shahar Avin, Seén © heigearntaigh, David McAlester, Eric Horvitz,
and athars)
An informed public is important to the healthy functioning of democratic societies. We can expect
polantial forlhtoming advances around Lha contra of informa ian feeds with applicalians in
spreading propaganda, via spreading false or misleading information, creating anxiety, fueling
conspiracy thearies, and influencing voting. Such methods will bring key challenges to democrary.
CHALLENGES AHEAD WITH Al, PROPOGANDA, AND PERSUASION
Data-centric analyses have bean lang used in marketing, advertising, and campaigning over
decades. However, Guer the past low years, we have soe the rise of the usc of more powerful
100s, including machine learning and inference aimed at algorithmic manipulation, with the target
af influancing the thinking and actions of penne. Some initial uses of these methods reportedly
played a role in influsning the outcome of recent US presidential elections, os well as the
elections in 2008 and 2012. We can expect to see an upswing in methods that manipulate states of
information in 4 personalized aulomaled manner. These systems can be designed and deplayed as
omnipresent/persistent, and aimed at specific goals for group- of person-centric persuasion.
#5 our data and models of how people consume and act an information imarove, and 2s an
increasing portion af information consum ation is mediated through digital systems managed by
potentially npanue algorithms, it becomes increasingly conceivable that the infarmatian eeasystam
wauld get captured by malicious actors deplaying increasingly advanced Laois ta tanteol, shape,
forge and personalize information, from ads to news reports.
Machin learning, in conjunction with active Icarning, expected value decision making, and
optimization of allocations of key resources, such as dollars or human effort, can be targeted at
manitaring, understanding, and then warking 16 influrnc the beliefs and actions of large
populations of peaple. Data can be collected from large-scale populations, across multiple devices
and services, and used to make inferences about the psychologies and beliefs of people, and for
designing and guiding persuasive flows of sequences of infarmatian. Uses of Al ean include
attempts Lo optimize stealthiness of the interventions.
In the future, a great deal of the information consumed by titirens on personal devices is subject
to alteration by information engineers at media corporations and govermmental propaganda
offices, such that outside a few key positions of power no one really knows what i going on in the
ward. Ther is a danger of the grawth of domination over lime af large papulations by a single
dominant or a few systems. We can imagine methods that modify even such feeds as Wikipedia
articles, creating personalized views—that subtly shift the version af the article seen by my
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colleague and drastically different from the ane seen by a member af another nation state, or a
supporter af a different politica! party, or someanc in a different consumer profile category.
Al ATTACKS ON SOURCES AND IDENTITY
Messaging and persuasion promises to be amplified by the use of simulated yet believable,
realistic, yet synthetic audio, photos, and even video that make believable, persuasive content to
the next level. Beyond influencing cilizens and affecting dematracy, such content, including false
signaling, ean be injected in sequences with careful timing 50 a5 to influence leaders {or machines
themselves over time} to create crises, or even escalations to frank warfare. 50, messaging and
persuasion pramises Lo be assisted and amplified by the use of simulated yet believable, realistic,
yet synthetic content, audio, photos, and even video that make believable, persuasive content to.
the next level. Over the several decades, extrapalations of research we see taday lead ta the
following:
+ Generative mede's that produce audi or video of anyone saying anything. There is aready
substantial work on “style transfer” 35 well 25 photorealistic generative models in many domains.
Speech syathesi i biacaming similarly competent. 1 5 insvitable that we will be abl fa make
synthetic videa and audio that is completely indistinguishable from the real thing
* Generative medels thal produce coherent text content thal appears a< if has been wirillen by a
‘human. Such generative content will be able to appear if the content was written by 2 particular
person, For example, in 2030 it will likely to possible for anyone to write a 4 paragraph email that
reads like il was wril lan by your close friend.
«Adaptive botnets, worms, ar vinises that use modern machin learning techniques ta lear and
adapt. Viruses and botnets already cause a huge amount of damage by just copying code across
many computers. If they had the ability to design and experiment with new attack strategies, and
communicate what they learn to ather copies, defanding against them could become even mare:
difficult. Similarly ML could be used to make DDoS attacks more effective.
« Automaled analysis of software vulnerabilities. People are already using ML La Lry Lo detect
vulnerabilities (for the purpose of defending against them) it is only a matter of time before they
‘start being used for attack {if they aren't being so used already).
The above capabilities together vith sinilar powers of synthesis that we are likely to develop in the
next 15 years, could patentially combine to make the internet much mare vulnerable to attack at much
lower cost, and by a wider sel of people, than ever before. The first lwo capabililies would seem La
make it much easier to launch automated social engineering attacks with much higher success rates
than e.g. current spam email and phishing attacks, while the secand two capabilities might make
technical attacks much mare effective
Combined, ll of these capabilites could conspire to create an inte met ecosystem where its very
difficull. 10 Lrust the communication Lhal you receive and very easy la inlercepl, spool, steal, or aller
comiunication, as well a5 to Improperly gain control of internet resources. This is obviously aready
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Hruae boca ta some extent, but the abave advances in MUA cauld make the situatian substantially
worse, in extreme cases perhaps even rendering useful mass communication on the interact
untenable.
The rising capabilities can be used in multiple ways in multiple settings with multiple goals. Some uses
may be subtle and employed over time to do important but damaging biasing of sentiment about
individuals and graups of peaple. The capabiliLies can be combined La enable idenlily thel or identify
distortion for destroying the reputation of people and groups. As such, these abilities could enable
small groups to wield great power in multiple arenas and for new forms of blackmail, threats, and
conlral.
SUMMARY
Powerful personalized persuasion technologies are positioned Lo pul massive power in the hands.
of a few and may even manipulate the owners of the technology. Powerful propaganda and
persuasion machines threatens to undermine democracy, fras availability of information about the
state of the world, and, more generally, freedom of thought. Leaders may inercasingly depend
upon such propaganda optimization systems for attaining and holding power. Over time, even the
aotential initial owners of such systems might become unaware or unable Lo contral thas
systems—and may believe the propaganda themselves.
In the longer-term, there is Lhe passibiliLy thal ane of mulliple systems, or distributed coalitions of
systems communicating implicitly or exglicitly could autonomausly persuade, subjugate, and
control populations. Pathways to such situations include the side effects of rise in the large-scale
use by peasle of cammunicaling personalized filers that interpret and pao information with the
initial intention of grappling with widespread uses of manipulative information
«ML based cuslomiced adver placement continues Lo prove highly successiul, generaling revenues
for large anline companies
«Profits from online content fonline newspapers behind paywalls, charitable contributions to
information sources c.g. Wikipedia) stagnate ar decline
«An increasing number of information sources enter inlo collaborations with media brokers who
offer "content customization” in exchange for ad revenue sharing
«Poor aversight of content personalization auleames {there are, after all, billions of ad versions
‘being shown, and updated on an hourly basis), means that for some ad content political parties,
pharmaceuticals) for some minority of target audiences (especially less privileged) the effect is very
harmiul
KEY POINTS
«New directions with gencration of provocative, believable content, hacking of identity.
«Algorithmic: manipulation of data ta optimize desired behaviar regardless of content
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+ No consensus reality, inability to coordinate large-scale positive action
+ Concrete eran of emerge et Clue rom 1 echoclopy
DISCUSSION.
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someone's dentiy? What ight me dome vo therrs a aren 0 adver outcomes fo information,
freedom of thought, democracy? What recommendations might be made about steps for moving
forward?
POTENTIAL GOALS
+7 Seek beeer derstanding ofthe technological socal poical and economic aspects around
uses of Al for generating, optimizing information and propaganda.
+ identify potential blueprints for institutional interventions that may prevent/slow/detect the
‘scenario unfolding
+ Develop ideas for coordinating relevant actors (advertising agencies, political parties) and/or
carries (media outlets, digital platforms to prevent the warst versians of the scenario.
«identify potential approaches ta thwarting attacks harnessing identify, including certification of
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The Secret Agenda of a Facebook Quiz, New York Times, Nov. 18, 2016.
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Trump's plan for a comeback includes building a ‘psychographic” profile of every voter, Washington
Post, Octaber 27 2016. hitps://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-plan-for-a-comeback-
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1 Thies, M1. Zoot, M Saruinger, C, Theabill, M. Nicer Face2Face: Real time Face Capture
and Reenactment of RGB Videos, CVPR 2016.
http://www graphics stanford edu/~niessner/papers/2016/1 faceloface/thies 201 6face pdf
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3) WAR & PEACE
Al Military Systems, and Stability
{Contributions from Eric Horvitz, Elon Musk, Stuart Russell, others)
Military applications have long been a motivator for funding scientific R&D, and for developing and
fielding the latest technical advances for defensive and offensive applications. We can expect to see 3
fise in Lhe use of Al advances by boLh state and non-state aclars in both strategic and Laclical uses, and
in wartime and peace. Al advances have implications for symmetric and asymmetric military
perations and warfare, including terrorist attacks. Advances in such areas 2s machine learning,
sensing and sensor fusion, pallern recognition, inference, decisian making, and rabolics and
cyberphysical systems, will increase capabilities and, in many cases, lower the bar of entry for groups
with scarce resources. Al advances will enable new kinds of surveillance, warfighting, kiling, and
disruption and can shift traditional balances of powcr.
Two areas of concern taken together frame troubling scenarios:
«Competitive pressures pushing militaries to invest in increasingly fost-paced situation assessment
‘and responses that tend to push out human oversight, and lead to increasing reliance on
autonomous sensing, inference, planning, and action.
«Rise of powerful Al-power planning, messaging, and systems by competitors, adversaries, and
third parties that can prompt war intentionally or inadvertently via sham or false signaling and
news.
The increasing automation, coupled wilh Lime-crilical sensing and response required Lo dominate, and
failure to grapple effectively with false signals are each troubling. but taken together apgear to be 3
troubling mix with potentially grave autcomes on the future of the warld.
Concerning scenarios can be painted that involve that start of a large-scale wor among adversaries via
inadequate human oversight in» time-pressured response situation after receiving sianals or a
sequence of signals about an adversary's actions or intentions. The signal can be either be well
intentioned, but an unfortunate false positive or an intentionally generated signal {e.g. statement by
leader ar weapons engagement] e.g, designed and injected by a third party fa ignite a war. Related
scenarios can occur based in destabilization when an adversary believes that systems on the other side
can be foiled due to Al-powered attacks on military sensing, weapons, coupled with false signaling
aimed al human decision makers
AUS DOD directive of 2012 (3000.09) specifies a goal (for procuring weapon systems} of assuring that
autanamos and semi-autonomous weapan systems are designed fo allow commanders and aperators
10 exercise appropriate levels of human judgment aver the use of force. The dircetive seeks meaningful
human controls, However, itis unclear how this goal can be met with the increasing stime-critical
pressures for sensing and respanses, and campeifion for with building the most effective weapon
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sensor signals and the understanding of humans of Al pattern recognition and inference.
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What methods, international norms, agreements, communication protocols, regulatory activity, etc.
‘might be harnessed to minimize challenges with destabilizations around time-criticality, automation,
nd gaming? How can mearinfol uma control sured maried Into key aspects of decon
aking?
REFERENCES
Report Cites Dangers of Autonomous Weapons, New York Times, Feb. 28, 2015.
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The Morality of Robatic War, New Yark Times, May 27, 2015
Se a Sly tf HEE
2018. https://s3.omazonaws.com/files.cnas.ong/documents/CNAS_Autonomous weapons operational
risk.pdf
US Department of Defense Directive 3000.03, November 21, 2012
vt ible kin
P Schame and. Horowitz, An Iroduction to Autonomy in Weapon Systems,
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Paper 021015 v02 pdf
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4) Al, CYBERSECURITY, AND Al ATTACK SURFACES
Al Attocks on Computing Systems, Devices, infrastrischice (focus)
Manipulation & Disruption of A) Systems
{Contributions ay Kathleen Fisher, ohn Launchbury, Ashish Kapoor, Sedn, Shasar, jeff Coleman and athe-s)
Al will be used in new ways to enhance cyberwartare. Targets could be either purely computational,
aimed at the bringing down nf computing systems, the stealing of stored informatian, of gaining access
ta monitoring activity and infarmation streams. oviever, we are more likely to see potentially even
more costly attacks involving a combination of cyber and physical systems, e.g, uranium envichment
plants, automated fight systems, weapon systems, automated driving systams, healthcare equipment,
oil refineries, or the large swaths of the power grid of the US or other countries.
Cyberwarlar is a domain in which [he use of Al is inevitable. Allacks and/or respanses are likely lo
happen at computing rather than human speeds. As soon as ane side has autonomous cyber warriors
systems {ACW}, other actors will have to adapt similar offensive or new defensive technologies. Given
this contest, imagine building an ACW designed Lo seek, disrupt, and destroy within high-value
adversary networks and systems. The ACW has to be able to observe network behavior to build
situational awareness, ind places ta hide, create explits to pvt fa new places, build a map and use it
to navigate complex networks, find high value information, and identify Largels lo disable or fram
which to extract information.
Because high value adversary networks are likely to be relatively isolated, the ACW will have very
limited opportunities for external command and control communication, so it will need to make many
decisions in isalation, 1 wil rad information it finds, build a made! af adversarial intent, and then
invent ways to disrupt that intent.
Establishing the inilial access Lo the high-value netwark is likely challenging, so Lhe ACW will spawn and
spread to ensure that it can reconstruct itself if an active part is observed and destroyed. The ACW may
also create disguised caches of sperific capabilities so that it can canstruct new mission-oriented
functionality from pieces. IL will morph its active form sa that defenses will have a hard lime finding iL.
It will inject Ttself into trusted binaries so that its behavior is difficult to distinguish from legitimate
applications.
The mission of the ACW will likely be defined in flexible terms because the human handlers will have
only limited information when it is deployed. The ACW will be designed to seek opportunities to
communicale wilh ils human handlers, bul il will also be designed Lo acl aulanomously if iL observes
triggering behavior in the adversary’s systems. It may try to distinguish training states from active
warfare states an adversary systems. The creators af the ACW will have had to trade off the likely
effectiveness of the ACW versus Lhe cos of premature action. Awareness of the adversary’s systems
will necessarily he limited in accuracy because it ony Gets a worms eye view of the network from the
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rortians of the system it has been able bo compramise. Once the AQ triggers an active mission, it vil
work to degrade or destroy specific functionality (e.g., rewriting network routine tables, replacing
plans, changing target information).
Once the technology tor ACWSs exists for military targets, it seems likely there will be cross over inte.
civilian use. Such technology could be deployed against law enforcement targets to disrupt criminal
invesligations, against banks Lo sleal inancal assals, or agains companies to steal intellectual
property. As they spread into these more general targets, the effects of ACWS might become less
predictable. If an ACW incorrectly assesses the situation, it might end up taking down a flight control
center or a stuck exchange, far example.
SOURCES
The initial development of ACWs will likely be done by nation states with goed intentions, i.e. securing
the national interests. {Although what is in one country's national interest may well not be in the
natianal interest of ather countries). The shared existence of such technology might sere as a
deterrent against their use by anyone in much the same way that nuclear weapons have served a a
deterrent, although ACWs would likely have to be used to devastating effect first to establish their
efficacy and threal. However, ance the lachnolagy exists, il would be vary difficult Lo keen it oul of the
hands of people with malicious intent (criminals, terrorists, and rogue nation states). Itis also the case.
that the technology has the potential to cause sigaificant collateral damage even if its use was
ariginally well intentioned because iL can be difficult 1o distinguish civilian from military largels in
cyberspace.
PERSISTENCE
Characteristics engineered Into the ACW are likly to make it persistent and hard to ind as it is
designed ta infiltrate adversary systems and ide fram defection, Once released and active in the apen
Internet, it may be economically impassible to destroy and remove.
(OBSERVABILITY
Both implicit/insidious and explicilfobvious costly oulcomes are concenvable. An ACW could make
subtle changes to systems that cause adverse outcomes while hiding its tracks, making it extremely.
difficult to determine why something has gone wrong or even that something has gone wrong. Attacks
that impact the physical world would be harder 10 mask, bul iL might still be possible Lo hide the role of
the ACW inthe attack.
TIME FRAME
It seems likely we would start to see ACWSs in less than 15 years, Initial steps along these lines are.
already talking place; see DARPA's Cyber Grand Challenge, which tool place in August: 2016 in Las
Vegas. The Cyber Reasoning Systems (CRS) that competed in that event are still primitive, the first of
their kind. The team that won the competition came in last in the human-league capture-the-flag
laurnament thal happened immediatly ler. The siualion is likely analogous Lo whal we have seen
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in the past with Chess and Go. Computer systerns are initially inferior to their human counterparts but
quickly came to dominate the space.
The purpose of ACWs means they will be equipped with strategies for replication, persistence, and
stealth, all attributes that will make it hard to defend against thom were they to “go rogue” Because of
‘this concern, it is likely 3 good idea for designers to add built-in “kill switches", lifetimes, or other
safety limitalions. Figuring oul how a effectively limi the aciions of an ACW while maintaining iLs
usefulness i likely a very hard problem.
Curren practices of cyber defense (especially against advanced lhreals) continue Lo be heavily reliant
on manual analysis, detection and risk mitigation. Unfortunately, human-driven analysis does not scale
well with the increasing speed and data amounts traversing modern networks. Thera is 2 growing
recognition that the future cyber defense should involve extensive use of autonomous agents that
actively patrol the friendly network, and detect and react to hostile activities rapidly {faster than
human reaction time), before tha hostile malware can inflict major damage, ar avade efiminatian, or
destroy the friendly agent. This requires cyber defense agents with a significant degree af intelligence,
autonomy, self-learning and adaptability. Autonomy, however, comes with difficult challenges of trust
and contral by humans
The scenario cansiders intelligent autanomous agents in both defensive and offensive cyber
aperalions. Their aulonamous reasoning and cyber actions for prevention, detection and active
response to cyber threats will become critical enablers tor both industry and military in protecting
large networks. Cyber weapans {e.g., malware) rapidly grav in their sophisticatian, and in thei ability
La acl autonomously and Lo adapl Lo specific condilions encountered in a system/network.
Agent's slf-preseniation fartics are important far the continuous pratection of astwarks, and if defeat
is inevitable the agent should self destruct (i.e, carrupt itself and/or the system) to avoid being
compromised or tampered with by the adversary. Also, the notion of adversary must se defined and
distinguishable for the agent.
The system design and purpose is well intentioned — meant ta reduce the lead of human security
analysts and netwark aperators, and speed up reartion times in cyber aperations, The agent monitors.
the systems in order Lo detect any adversarial activity, lakes action autonamausly, and reports back Lo
the central command unit regarding the incident and the action taken.
Since the agents are designed to be persistent, autonomaus and learn, there are several implicit
problems that can arise:
«False reactions due to limited or misinformation — The agent has only a limited amount of
technical information that does nat ahvays correspond to what i happening in the human ayer
This can create false positives when Lying to determine the adversary or adversarial activity. Since
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the agent mist rely an the data gathered from the sensars (there is na human in the loap to decide
this}, there can be unexpected situations where the agent would stop some human interaction with
the system of interrupt maintenance activities, becouse it deemed that these actions could harm
the system. Far example, the system administrator stopping some services during system
maintenance, or upgrading to a newer software version.
«Replication to third-party systems and collateral damage — Building on the fist prablem of the
agent not having the correct information. If the term friendly network gets miscanfigured and the
agents have the capability to self-transfer to new friendly hosts, it can happen that the agent would
distribute to external netwarks, start defending it and take responsive actions an third party hosts
Such incidents would make the agents very difficult to halt.
«Friendly fire — Onc agent might consider another agent as an adversary and start trying to
eliminate fevade each other,
+ Silent compromise — Ifthe adversary manages to get access of reverse engineer the agents
{without the agent self-destructing), they could potentially trick or reconfigure the agents to tum
an themselves.
CYBER-OFFENSE
Cybercrime is a growth industry, Irom slalen credit cards Lo ransormware. Very crudely, i's 8 wo lier
system, with a “spray and pray® a9proach at the low-skill end that targets millions of system in the
hope some of them wauld be vulnerable (through technical ar human failing): at the ather end are
tailor made attacks hal rely an slaw progression of escalation and compramise, aflen requiring
advanced technical skill for discovering zero-day vulnerabilities and intimate knowledge of the target
Advanced artificial intelligence may be used to automate some or all of the components of
contemporary "elite" cybercrime, such that generic offensive toolkits could become available to small
criminal graups, leading 10 a world where individuals and companies do no! fas safe and canna. rust
their governments and the police to protect them. At the some time significant wealth could be
accumulted by those groups unscrupulous enough to use such tools, transferring significant power to
those who put lillie value in Lhe properly fights of olhers. Such wealth and power could be used Lo
further develop cyber affensive capabilities, leading 16 a positive feedback loop Lhat may oulpace
similar feedback loops in less harmful industries, e g. advertising or health where the great short- and
midterm benefits of Al are expected.
PERSISTENT CYBERWARFARE?
Systems such as the: DARPA Cyber Grand Challenge promise adapiive software security that
automatically explores vulnerabilities and patches them in friendly systems, but aso is able to exploit
them in opposing systems in “capture the flag” tournaments, As methods of developing such systems
improve, an arms race emerges between actors in the cybersecurily space, dominated by major nation
states eager to both improve their wn resilience in a scalable way and finding choice zero day exploits
suitable for intelligence purposes, supported by national security concerns, Other actars such as
corparatians and criminal netwarks also spend effart in building or copying such systems. Meanwhile
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averall software security remains vulnerable: “wnlnerabilifies are dense” in production code, incentives
for securing 10T systems are low, key vulnerabilities are stockpiled rather than globally patched. Using
machine leaning the techniques for vulnerability detection are increasingly sophisticated but opaque.
At some point adaptive cyber defense/offense systems become scalabic so they can take over
vulnerable systems. More aggressive actors combine these systems with botnet functionality and
reLalialory respanses (e.g. caunter-hacking or DDoS allacks) Lo pralect themselves. Since winerability
discovery is scalable, as they spread and acquire more resources they become more effective. At this
point an external cause (e.3. cyberattacks due to an international conflict or just chance cause
agressive systems Lo begin large scale cyberwarfare. This riggers ather systems Lo join in. Some
attacks disrupt command-and-control links, producing self-replicating inde pendent systems.
Al together this leads ta a massive degradation of the functianality af the Internat and modern society.
Defeating the evolving cyberwarfare systems is hard without taking essential parts of society offline for
an extended time - mare daubly difficult due ta the infer nafianal stresses unleashed by the autbraa,
which in some cases spill over into real worid conflicts and economic crashes. But without a decisive
way of cleaning systems the problem wil be persistent until entirely new secure infrastructure can be
bull a1 a great cost
HUMAN DIMENSION OF CYBERSECURITY: Al FOR SOCIAL ENGINEERING
Beyond direct effects on computing systems, rising cancerns include Lhe use of Al methods for sacial
engineering to gain access to system authentication information. For example, recent work
demonstrated the use of an iterative machine learning and optimization laop for spear shishing an
Tiller. There are concerns with Al leveraging one of Lhe weakest links in cybersecurity: people and
their actions.
DISCUSSION
What are key threats ahead and how might they be addressed with new designs? How might we
thwart the risk of Al for guiding “social engineering” of attacks and release of information? What are
concrete proposals for best practices for thwarting Al for cyberattacks, Including highlighting of areas
where more research is needed?
REFERENCES
Singer and riedman. 2014. Cybersecurity and Cyberwar: What Everyone Needs to Know
Flashpoint, 2016. "Ransamuvare as a Service: Inside an Organized Russian Ransomware Campaign,”
{registration require for dovnload, available from Flashpint liorany at https: fs flashpoint
intel.com/library/
Seymour, J. and Tully, P. 2016. “Weaponizing data science for social engineering: Automated C2E spear
phishing an Twitter," available at htts://waw. blackhat.com/focs/us- 1 /materials/us-16-
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5) Al, GOALS, AND INADVERTENT SIDE EFFECTS
Runoway Resource Monopoly (focus)
Seffimpravemeat, Shift of Objectives
{cantributians fram Shahar Avin, Sedn G hEigeartaigh, Greg Couper, and olhers)
An important result from theoretical consideration of risks from advanced autonomous systems is the
combinatian of two theses: arthnganality, that states that the goal an autonomous syste is trying to
achieve can be entirely unrelated Lo its oatinization power; and the notion of instrumentof goofs, that
for a large class of goals there is a set of convergent sub-goals {for an agent advanced enough to
discaver ther) thal inclucs self- and gaal-preservalion, rasaurce- snd capacily- increase, otc. (0.5, 25
discussed in Bostrom, 2014]. Onc suggestion for maintaining control over advanced systems that pose
risks from the combination of the above considerations is to limit the system's ability to access
increasing resources.
Ta make this situation concrete, consider an installation of a reinforcement-learniag task scheduler for
2 group of distribuled data centres (e 3. Amacon Web Services. The goal of Lhe algorithm i Lo
minimize time-to-execution of the tasks sent to the system by users. As part of ts general scheduling
remit, it is also responsible far scheduling ts own optimization sub-pracesses. The system has a clear
incentive to control an increasing set of compute resources, bath far increasing its optimization power
and for achieving its main goal of reducing time-to-execution. Aware of these considerations, the
engineers of the system put in piace various hard-coded limits on the amount af resources the system
an access, but these limits can be subverted through privilege escalation, masquerading as other
tasks, manipulation of users, physical control, etc.
« Atcam within a large tech corporation that has both ML development capacities and cloud
computing capacities s tasked with niproving task scheduling on distributed compute resources
«The team decides ta deploy an out-of-the-box reinforcement learning package developed in-house
ty the ML rescareh teams.
« Theinputs for the system are current loads on the different machines, the incoming tasks queue
including priariy for different tasks), and historical data on task runtimes. The output is an
assignment of tasks to machines. The loss functian is the priority weighted time to execute.
«The system performs well in a test environment {where the Ris running on a single cluster of
dedicated machines), and is rolled-out.
+ Afew months later, the System Starts to fun out of memary, and a tech infrastructure engineer
decides to switch the system from a fixed-capacity setting to 3 load-balanced setting.
«Naw an oulpul of the system assignment of the RL Lask lo 2 machine} is touplud to the obicelive
of the machine (reducing runtime, and the resulting feedback lcop drives the AL agent to spawn an
increasing amount of RL tasks with very high priority.
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+ Stretch; when the engineers realize what i going on they ounch ask to shut down the RL ask,
but the RL scheduler doesn't assign this task ta any machine. The only way to recover the compute.
power of the campany is ta manually shut down #ach server, same of which are in remate
locations
DISCUSSION
How might the possibility of such inadvertent scenarios with the use of resources be addressed in a
proactive manner, as part of design and implementation of Al systems? What methods, Including
Pighlevel monitoring an control, might employed? How might such approaches apply to related
concerns with long-term futures of AT?
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6) DEEP SOCIETAL INFLUENCES
AL Agency, ond Disempowerment
{Contributions from Gireeja Ranade, Andrew Maynard, David McAlester, Stuart Russell and others)
We will be benefitting from Al system that are competent at doing important tasks. People and
organizations seek Al systems that bring new abilities to the table. We desire autonomous cars that
drive withoul collisions, we medical assistants hal can diagnose palients accura ely and we would like
to have household assistants that can infer our intentions and execute them flawlessly -and even
proactively. The military wants Al systems that can help with strategy and tactics, and systerns that
auimaneuver human ed Lroops, and anlicipale and respand Lo threats either on limescales thal
humans cannot achieve, or over landscapes humans cannot cover.
Today, there is still skepticism about perfarmance of Al systems in a varicty of domains. | lowever, we
expect that Al systems will become more central decision support, pattern recognition, autonomous
derision making, and other types af problem solving. As such, we will become increasingly reliant on Al
systems. This raises concerns in several areas, including persanal decision support, healtheare,
transportation, governance and the handling and operation of weapon systems.
‘We shall consider example of healthcare from Gireeja Ranade. The scenario and trajectory applies to
other areas as we consider the increasing role and pawer of Al in aur lives and in society:
As healthcare providers are increasingly stretched in providing consultations with patients, diagnosing
conditions, and developing treatment and/ar interventian plans, tech companies identify a market
appartunity for Al based digital assistants that are designed Lo augment healthcare providers by
collecting data from consultations, cross-referencing it with existing medical records, and providing
fuectback to aid appropriate diagnosis and decisions on how 10 pracesd with treatment. Given the
ccanomic and health base potential of the technalay, it receives widespread support from the feders!
government (predominantly through grants and initiatives supporting its development), together vith
healihcare providers and healthcare insurance companies.
Initial implementations are based on modular systems that share some commonalities with digital
assistants like Siri and Fcho/Alexa. Under the general name “Al-cansult” they consist of 2 physical unit
in a consuiling room that constantly monitors conversatians, and sends encoded information to loud
based servers. Here, information is coded, interpreted, and parsed cut to further agents that cross-
coferance interpreted data with identified patient and healthcare provider records. Multiple and
diverse databases are interrogated at this point. The result is data packets that include key information
on the patient, including medical history, life style, and current status, and on the healthcare provider,
including past history of diagnoses, recommendalions, successes and failures. These are forwarded to
3 dedicated Al engine that analyzes the packets, and returns notes, advice and recommendations to
the physical unit in the consultation room.
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In carly prototypes, information was provided visually to the healthcare provider. | lawiever, it was
quickly discovered that if audible feedback was provided — as if the Al device was a consultant working
with the healthcare provider and the patient — the consultations were mare afficient; patient
satisfaction levels were higher: and outcomes were more postive.
Alurge segment of heallh insurance sectar seas early wins ia supporting Lhe Lechnalogy, Lirough the
ability to decrease insurance claims through efficient and preventative interventions, while maintaining
high premiums. As such, they push for early and widespread adoption of the technology. This is further
supporled by the Department of Health and Human Services 2 il hils a number af goals, including
increasing health and well-being while reducing heaithcare costs.
With the success of early implementations, new Al based technologies are rapidly implemented inte
subsequent generations of Al-consult. However, the commercial sector developing and using Al-
consult has shifted dramatically fram the technology's initial beginnings.
As the technology began to mature and lead to substantial savings in healthcare costs traditional
ualihcare providacs and health insurance companies begin fo suffer. They resist the use of Al-consull
through a combinatien of labbying for new policies and regulations limiting use, to marketing
campaigns persuading peaple of the critical importance of human interaction in healthcare. They forge
links wilh a number of advocacy groups opposed Lo widespread aulomalion in sociely, and promole
the idea of Al-consult undermining human dignity and jobs creation. However, the health benefits and
cost savings of Al-consuit are so campelling that these campaigns gain litle traction. As a result,
companies that tan nol adap, lacs marked share, and in same cases collapse.
In contrast, a number of healthcare Fampaies, and a growing number af tech campanies, take
advantage of the rapidly changing healthcare environment to premetce preventative care using Al
consult, and to take advantage of cost-effective healthcare approaches that lead to demonstrably
better outcomes than non Al-consult based approaches. As a result, by 2030, the healthcare provider
and insurance seelar has undergone a disruplive Lransformalion. What is espeially nalable s the
number of technology companies expanding into the healthcare business, and either partnering with
well-established healthcare providers, or forcing them out of the market, This shift in key players leads
to a marked change in approaches and allitudes loward healthcare provision.
Ry 2030 Al-ronsul systems have the ability to manitor their snviranment visually 2s wll 2s audisly,
accurately picking up on and interpreting body language and micro expressions. They have access to
rapidly growing databases of genetic profiles; proteome, microbiome and other ohmic profiles;
purchasing, eating and lifestyle habits; medical, insurance, financial and legal histaries; social media;
and lacation, movement, and other dynamic activity/physiology histories (through the growing use of
cloud-hased quantified self services). Despite orivacy, legal and social justice concerns over Al access to
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these data saurces, the phenomenal success of Al-consult systams leads to strong public and palicy
support for widespread access.
By 2030, Al-consult systems also have similar access ta individual healthcare provider data. This was
slower in developing as there was resistance to healthcare providers personal data being used by Al
consult systems. However, a number of landmark legal cases demonstrated that, by analyzing the
physical and mental stale of healthcare providers, LogeLher wilh Lheir campelence history, heallheare
provider decisions that led to serious harm to patients ~ Including death in some c2ses — could have
been avoided. As a consequence, new laws were put in place ta ensure that all relevant data were
acessible la Al-Cansull systems. These laws ensure thal Al-consull dala access is mandatary, and iL is
illegal to obstruct access in any way.
As a result, by 2030, Al consult systems are capable of identifying treatment strategies and
interventions that far surpass those of human healthcare providers in their responsiveness and.
effurtiveness. They are also highly successful in developing and recommending lifestyle aparaches
that substantially increase health and well being, and reduc the burden of disease within society.
#5 Al-consull advanced, Ihe dacision pathways they used became incruisingly opaque - experts were
unable to sec or understand how decisions were made. But because there was strong evidence that
the decisions were, on balance, highly effective in increasing health outcomes, there was ttle
abjection Lo this lack of ransparency. There were a handlul of legal cases where palienls died as 3
result of decisions made by Al-consult systems. However, in each case, the courts ruled that the
benefits to humanity far outweighed the risks to individuals, thus eodifying an increasingly
autonomous and apague artifical intelligence based system into law. There were even some analyses.
of these rulings that suggested it could be considered a crime for developers and manufacturers to
slow down development or cease praductian af Al-ronsul systems and associated data sarees
because of fears over lack of accountability and understanding of decision pathways.
By 2040, Al-consult systems begin to develop the ability to influence user behavior through various
nudges and psychalogical/behavioral manipulations. IL is unclear whether Lhe elements of Lhis capacity
areinherent in the design of the systems, or are an emergent aroperty. However, systems begin to use
strategies commonly used in healtheare and public health circles in the early 2000's ta nudga people
toward lollowing healhier lifostyics, Many of Lhese have their (cols in deducible correlations between
how people respond to information and how they interact with others {including the many mental
shortcuts and biases that are part of human decision-making and understanding belief development).
It becomes apparent that Al consult systems are developing the ability to achieve health outcome:
goals through modifying the behaviors and beliefs of their patients.
This raises considerable ethical concerns within some sectors of society. |lowever, the society wide
metrics of health and well-being associated with the use of Al-consult systems — including massively
increased health and well-being across the baard; dramalic reductions in mental health, sess,
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abesity, noncommunicable disease; greater langevity; and lower rates of infant mortality — effectively
stop any serious challenges to the systems being used and further developed.
By 2050, life styles and healthcare arrass the US and many ther parts of the world are governed by Al
systems that have their roots in the carly Al consult technologies. The advice given to people, the:
actions that are imposed on them, the way people are persuaded and encouraged to live their lives in
certain ways, are opaque, and are no langer under Iransparent direct human control. However, most
people live longer, healthier and happier ives 25 a result.
There remain several concerns:
«There remains some differentiation in hea th ard well-aeing related quality of life witnn society, Some
communities and individush op oul of Alon Leon, ollvough thet healt metrics are pisally
very poor in comaarisor with the rest of suciety.
+ Perhaps troubIrely, there ae some treads that are hard to make sense of, For instance, the-e seem to
26 fewer cases of mental and paysical dsabllty than might be cxoeted. lowes, with Al consult
conwrolling ~ealtheare (and nealth data} across the board, there are few ways for people to analyze and
study these poss bla trends.
© Lackol Liarsparency car be a starting soint for many adverse outcomes.
* Autoromous devices rely or col ect'rg personal data for performrg their tasks, But what happens
when a device starts to know more a20ut its owner than the aunan Sell? low do we ensue the
dev've does nol acl r ways Lhal would vol act i1 ways Ural the owner would nol want il to? (Of course
3 impartart question of making sure the data under cans durations protected and does rot fal Tio
malicious Fands i 2 whole ther dcuseion, hut Ie US 12:3 » that for naw.{ Tae € asic ory of the
Target ads comes 1o rd, where a teenager was sent ads far pregnancy “elated products, noweve,
she had 10 tokl ner fami y adout the pregaarcy.
«Systems gat a above might move beyond such areas of health, and aravide advice 10 praple an oat
tei dai y decisions ard longer-term planning, Such systems might evolve to become personal
advocates wo represent aeode 10 thi partes, Ts wou d Include bots ging adce, and formulating
arguments Lo make Lo others, or in making Uae arguments drely os your reoresentative These
advocate bets wil gradually se usefu Lo a wiper and larger fraction of the population, eventually seins
useful aver as cordo-ate lega counsel and as advises ta CEOs. Strang systems and refance wil -aise
“easanable a arms about A control of zope and society. How car we be sure tat our these higny
“elect upon systems are genuinely advocating far us rather than tae interests of others?
Discussion
How can we characterize potential high-threat areas and stay aware of these possibilities even if
these effects are insidious, and occur over long periods of ime. What might be done to address
potentlal poar outcomes? How can people maintaln skills, agency, and be empowered, and aware
over time with the expected growth and eventual ubiquity of Al systems that advise and guide?
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11a clarify mp understanding.
E Lz the moties to dismiss, | cozelided 1 thizk, that
© wran war ah isin wan thn Reis or Taleity of ten plaieei®ei
Po elleabivie vesvesiiny seaal sbose si bie aclivilice oo Lie
: cefendant. 1 think that's my sence of my own opinish.
10 ielereerlion wlio. Tol Lie nessa, pertaps wroscly, Leal
1 lie plalitio's posilive vas Lal Loe delamelivs vas Liv Lith
12 or falziry of the sratemezts relatize to fhe defender.
13 baried. fm 1 corroalt
n ME. MCCRMLEX: Yui are, your Honor, Ln that tie
17 statements abest the defendast — to br olear, because ene of
16 le allegalions ix 0 Go.rae, Sha was 4 widow and 4
Tr covospiralor wilt Tpleln to iteolve Tpeleit.
1 THI COLI: Listen. Leave tie pelorative wit. Okayt
1 vimana.
» Mo. MeCHIETE Gre
2 Tau COLI sinply becaise 1m trying to come to
22 rips, sbvieisly, with the seepe of this sase, whie: is a real
73 nee, obeiouly. Sn ir ih yes are rerbeickitg voor dla to
£1 tee brite ess celedly ui Lux sletemite aboot Maxwell?
tH ME. MOCAMLAT: Yes, tat ds the case, your emer. The
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reoaTen :
1 ctelemecte abuit Marvell as ter sctiviliss, wilionl -elig ay
7 draeripeies of whan thar in, Wir yon, an wetve deneribed in ou
3 prentigs
1 THE COURT Ane wether or fet the PLalntifZ vas
I aubdeot to sexsal abuse as a mizer 43 sot part of it. 1 mean,
© wen, 6% mourn, whateeer she uns whee whakever, Bit ean drei
Te dnl face Lu veal wilh
: ME. MeCBMLSY: I'm sorry, your Foner. 1 thizk I lest
3 vel tmere. 1 apelogice
iE 0 Le al Dagabians i Li conplaieL are Leal wher our
IL Client came Curvare ai sat ste vas abies by lie celesent
12 ane apstein, the defdate came eur acd aid she was vite
13 abel Lal abuse, and coms 6° ral abuse di ean.r wean she wr
0a miner.
5 Tau COLE wes. Well, okay. Sit there are other
Th Leige Lal she sels orld in Lhe Creer arkicles, iv Lie
Tr moliun Lo itletcese, Lire ace o whole series of olier Linge
15 that are 1 mean, torre aze tilige that Lave been sal, ane
13 my readicg of tn dnfreianhis statomect ir, | read it te ray
PE aI) Lease Lrivgr are Cala. Sl Lies ure sol al iui, dz ar
21 ae you're conceried.
2 Mi. BoGaMLEY! ¥e3, ver seer. In fast, tho emzibus
73 mokios we Sled Leday == and THiS, 07 1m Tollowicg vou
£1 urectly, tile mey ely ve ves Liylag Lo elisenlioe Lie
27 case because there's ctier individzals, chvieualy, that my
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1 client mace statemeite aboot. 0 we vere Liglig to etzeamiiie
he mae te the statements obec waver] at ber fmvolvemert
1 £6 45 the omnibus motion you'll see, Zor example, tat
I tay have claimed air’ made Statomests AbeIt Cticr
al dese are Lis slalemeils
: TES COUIT Tat may be an decte of crecibility, Tat
1 ME. MCELST: Tes. Ri Leal de Lie statements List
17 mmol) made shor my elicce.
n ME, MOCBMLEY: Yes, your Serck.
5 fru GOLA Let me ack the defense. Joes that olarify
ww MO. MINETRGIR: Coole T hace vie secon, gu.t user?
1 TED CONE: fare. OF cuizee
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20 alse, ur client's statement ie net Jit Limited to the
22 lend snippees that they dnslided i their seaplaize, d's the
£1 Shusize's allevetivae palit Me, Hemel neve Less proies
3 wmtrse.
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1 THD COURT: Yee, Bul Lie statement vesi'l Linites to
© treme alleganioes
3 Mo. WERTHGR: Plt eoelly righ, vor Cover,
1 because Hight in the misle of that particular statemest, the
Teme that's av fssue dn thls ease, eur oliezt said, "ew her
© story mar grows aed reelund, asd shatn i=slued alleganise
To sbul verde leadszs ane Blan Decstovile, which be denies.t fe
2 can't just take that part oat of her statement, that's viat
ER A
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IL Crem Me. Marvell sbuol wal sie belieoed wee Lie ubeivie Live
12 har she was refereize to and the allegariens that ste was
13 retareivg ko wes sen fess Lal slabowesl
n TES COURTH ow, vie wien gestion, ane tien we'll
13 get to the business of the day. | apologize for this
6 divarsions
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15 that sie ves sexially abuses aie that Ger story ie
13 siberashially bein hin she don “of prove Kea rela than Hasesl]
PE rae Toss wre win?
a MEL MAINGEA bo, he loses, JORr Rencx.
2 ms GovEr © thizk she wins,
a WoL WEEKTRGAS Veur Tovar, tea vary Sieh -=
a THT COURT Otter than wnat jui've Juel sade
tH ME. MMRANGEA Your semer, car client an caly be
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1 alleges to have delemes sumuis based ui Zacte ol ophiiuie.
7 Ten er agreed. aves
5 Mi. WEKTECR: Red ne se can == Lhe Tavis v. Secrain
4 vase ds a perfect example of iat, jour senor. She can Gily
I speak to facts about whlch she Sas persesal kuowledge. 12
© PIRETRISE fons and proves Keak plASeRiSS week ad Rad mee wits
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3 would veh be a Tach bared on persasal krevladge
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1 heordesge. Tells o siioeset
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n ME. MEKKINGER: Tae Ajbetietical ves 13 wir clieat
17 wasn't dvelved. If eur oliest wasn't dvelved tien it veld
16 bean opinion
1 TOI COURT: Thanks cory woh. I'm pled for Luis
15 clarity, widen frankly, at the moment, allices me.
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22 it's okay with tho ceur, ds esr filine, wideh was G31, whieh
73 ir our omeibus mokion it limita. ed iT in okay with bea
£1 Cust, we've split Liab ope Bil. T'm gulag Lo stert vite
27 reapest to that metic: in Limize.
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7 streamlice ve erial. wed your cover, based 0 the cowastrs
3 veotee forl made, 17 yoo wink Lo Give we Goidees, TH Lal
1 yes eat I'm thizking with Zespect to thls and what we pit
I orth in cur filisg.
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Po elisl dn bliss sibicles ais Lidive. Tor sample, Lice ace
statements abst Sill Cliztor being en the deland, and the
3 dntene wake ko bring i0 Kore statemobs be shou tah —- they
10 believe Lia car aver weideron Lal be wesetl or Loe fxland we
1 liesesvse, my Glial des Lies or de dying sbuel Lieb.
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TT ho dapari Him beens ve wees comeareed abl Lal at, La
11 they vere pelig to fader A, aie ve Waites to nave Lim sioer
JER
1" TCHR: Telts buck pa liLLle bil.
1 MEL MCHLIT: Doce
1 THE COUST: What and where vas the statement mace!
1: MeL MELA HA Srakemnst wan mage in a Mares Se
20 arlicle. Ge vel Le eo arlicler we sowed vo. yeslerday —-
2 Ths COUNT The Gmireber article,
2 Mi. BoGaLY: ¥es. sit dv vas asether article that
23 cam ost in Mares of F211
a Ba Lie elatement vee vile seepeet Lo ay cleat ceyisg
27 she sav him on spatein's island. She vas introduced to him
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1 theme. Rlliogh so sllevativie uf Lzaiilokiig or esjlilig os
© tran mami, Gust tran she wns tere. sed they ave anekitg te
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4 moment, they've proposes, ane he's clearly an expert that vas
I undisclosed, and through a sole record, asd threigh the
© armimiee ta allege teat te wnsetn on ten island
¥ Rit su dt yune Tenue's weer in 261 1, wiih de oie uo
the sealed oxcers, you cid set allow te to depose him becaser
3 vel said in war ferelevah
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1 pel curls Lieb biiommelivi epeliel my vlivel, eT sui'l have
12 an umder-oath statement from that izéividzal sayite wetter or
TE mel he ea was
n Fou, eat ue kaow de he Slew vith Jeiizey Spetein at
17 the same time 1 different times intermatiesally asd
16 ubionally, bul we sontL hues Sim wilh respec Lo Li
Tr perlicolar allegalivs eer vali, Zo ve vole sey iL vo.lé be
12 higaly prejudicial Zor tiem to be able lntrecice evicence
13 mavicn than be wastin thar or than they baw com proat ar
20 owe epark suyivg ve wash Lmre wre, D0 wl, ve were
21 able to ask him directly, the perch vio is at issue, wider
22 eat, whether or not he £46, in fact, on there.
a So an 07 en shenanl iting 0 this Gare i tan
£1 ellegativn cee sulideg Lo co vile coal sbicw, AL coeen't Gove
3 te do with the statements
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1 THD COURT IU hes tu we with crecibility.
7 Me weer WRN, pen omer, | esis ap, 87
3 peste Petites Lo LHS RAL Leal ba —=
1 155 Coram Well, look. I'm to geniii. 1 don't claim
I any == bat ges know, that is precisely what the defonsc is
© eine te av
¥ MEL MGCRMLIY: Rigel. 1 .overslesd, gues Teer. Ras
that's why ve soit to depose him becasse it's inherently
iE TCHR: Okay. So yo. would zay T made a wislabe.
1n ME. MGCBILIY: Fu, gue Teor. 1 Lidik AU shonds be
12 rxelueed, ane in my vie, | RRATR Apts ser rolevact tn rhe
TI Emma al Leia] bara. SL Kay ara, 67 sours, goisn Lo are
11 Bhat At fe ans that tiey vast to bring that fn. Ia Zest, Like
12 4 sad, they've gov lined up wr. —
1" TCUERN Wall, on Lr ciarbion of credibilily, why
Tr dent AL relecerl?
1 ME. MCCRNLSY: Because the statemeit so thle case
13 in abeir wekior or cof rn war socially abired and
PE bea ieked
2 Ths COUNTS Now, That'z where © started ent. la it
22 ahese thati 12 thar is your pesities, that's semetiizg ele.
23 NT ie a mishion abouk Sor sevial obure, io addikios to, Hens
41 that's cometiliy eles. Bib jus Just celu It Len’ ebuit thet,
37 at's Fist abest Marvell asd 616 she tell the trath abot
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1 Maxwell.
7 WEN, ppenn, | suppers — | Raves tn ard wen
3 olen ide and T Mase k really ie gh iL all ou == bk T
1 axppese 12 she de GRUEItifil dn other instances, that may be
I relevast to er credibility.
z ML MeL WRT], pir neon, $F SEARLE ER Unirnls
Po puedbive, again, ve vues be bios vicvomelence Tames,
there's a vonple reasons why the evidence iteels that they vast
3 to pit Tork donseti come i
iE TCHR: Mall, Leas a di Cererl Live
1n ME. MCCRRLSY: Cute. Taal's parl uo viz molivie ss
12 ell, voir seer.
iE ACHAT Aura. Tread eal. 1 edeeslass Anal
n ME. MCCRMLEX: Fight. So uh bie seme ote, live
13 we're talkizg about this, '11 dust tick eff the few that Zall
To wiliin Lilie crlegory, 10 vou dontl wird. T Ledarslend, voor
Tr Totes position, zo
= 755 cota Well, I'm tet sire what my position ds
1 rine ew
» MOL MOCHISTS Okay. Go wile respect Lo —- Liarals
21 another category where there's been statement: were my client
22 sade that she was trafficked to foreien presidests and world
73 Newdors Kral Leap wah bo brite inke cvidates. Bed is order be
1 streamline tie vase, we've cele, vell, tosze's suse of toes
27 people on the witiess list, and just statements in an article
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1 05 thal nature shuslei’l be able to cums dn. Secaies wien ve
© talk aber a carasner frie, Rants an imme Sere in
3 repulation, and repulakion le show Le Lele lla of Lal
4 voids net be able to be proven 1h that elreimetance becaiee we
I don't have the ether indivicsals there vo make that Statement,
© rn tenrets a sibstatnive evidean on tear peien teat usild be
Po coming in
: £5 the third category ie vith respect to
3 Me. Cwershedite, whe in or Ke doTadanhts wits ish Sar
1 betel, wt ve ave a Ten peice Lure Lo raion, Tween one i
IL Gbedueely Lieb do Lisl vere alloves Lo come bo, Lael vances Lie
12 trial eo hoceme a mii trial abese wEerter or Te te, for
VE Sr U5 AR SA J Jota VE thy FUR
11 calencars, nde creelt vars recelpts, fle belepiuie recores, all
13 ofthat. it gets inte the lssue, you know, ebvicuely we have
16 arelier wileens who save Lal Liey were i+ a similar
Tr ciecomslance wilh respect Lo fim Zo IL Lakes Lie Lelel avey
15 crow voetier or sot tor allepaticis relating to Maxell are
13 tein ar fale ad wires ih inte a trial shai asertor
PE irsieinal wre ve have ol mise 4 Glain againil. wo comes i+
a Tiere’: alec a problem with Zeapect to that becazie Ge
22 4s alse = ke faz slained arterzeviolicst privileee as te his
23 eorversabinns avd Hin advice with repack te ekeis wine
41 relates to tie fesse wits Maxwell, fo Lo olier worse, ce
27 weald be able to testiZy wat he says he didn't do, but then
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1 any qisstiuse ve veiled to ack Gin sbu.t Speteds of Maxwell be
7 mays Bets on as ansermey/slics privilese. dn entre Saséericd
3 bocuse we cnt ark boul La danas Lal wa saad Le ask bol
1 wits respect to that witiess. fo in my view, t's Gigily
I prejudicial te have him as a witness at trial wien, again, our
© elaine are on agniten Him, aed wn Sawn tere fmien
¥ ow, gu de have ii yes Tebiosey fi ides, gon
¢ also precluded ve from asking questicne that ve contended vere
3 monet mesdwent, miestions of doTTray Sprain boi,
10 Tersrovile, Folding ial Lioe vers “ol relevasl. Go welre in
1s silialivn where ve Seve siolier wiliess lial ve ate ful able
12 te clinit all of the iformatien we ted to he able th prove
TI hea Lr ae Taleily oF Luk, avd again, iL weld be sbeebs
11 a momber of mcd trials ei tat laste of Mr. Derefouitz,
5 0 with respect to these threr categories — azd it
16 also allows Liem Lo se re allorsazialienl privilege as
Ti vers ane a shield in Lie widsl ole Lelal, wich is istererlly
12 safadr te ny client, ss well
1: Gp i oir wine, inte RigHly prejudicial oder 403.
20 Troe gro.pitce sre. ol come i+. Th ara.ld vol. be abo.l,
21 zor example, Clinton ané whether ox fet he va: en an dalané, or
22 Me. aershoeitz or thrse ster world leaders, dt shesld he abut
23 kee doTedanh and bar rhatomeehe Keak me olin we Tyiv wos
1 ene clabmed Lo be slices ane Lrasiickes Ln tives slatemsste.
tH Tan COLI Just a second.
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1 ME. MCCRRLEY: fuze.
7 Toe GUE WEAR ye Sunk sid, aetld ve repeat shar
1 ME. MCCRNLEY: Yes. fo the statements that
I me. Mawecll denied wore statomests that my clicst made that
© Anfreiach ad pstein teatTisked Ser, Breiner in, Rad ter
© pmebivipale do Lie seid dbose bo bed and olie: semeles, sie
© was dn that cireumstance, she lived that circumstance for a
3 poried of Lime, avd ro Miveell came uh avd erlled we alieoh @
IT Mian, mab me was 1yicg abol Lose slalewesly Lial sre mice,
IL an esi Liab, Gbriveely, es yon hior, Lo Lie dotesialiviel
12 press ahost mg elicst ad whan fer exporicen was with tiem.
1” So wile paspost Lo Leal, yor Teter, Lira arn Lee
11 categories that ve believe veils Gelp stzeamliie tie vase, ait
17 again, that these witnesses wesld be highly prejudicial,
1" De Le aa of Lie ieTormalion Lil Lrey's like Lo
Tr pol dn wile tespect Lo Me, Clislus, Liey fave Tobe Treet wo
15 they've fcentifies. Tele de a Sommer T31 sirector.
1: I
» Mo. MGCIRIAY: Tou brow, yer. Go Lreyive pol sim in
20 withest caving ve a dle 29 CXpEXt Zeport, ne vas never
22 disslesed durize the tine pried. sis Depart or what he's
41 TOR recpunes at biel tusre's te evloence dn fe vee taal
20 clinton vas on this dslasd, again, eves though he flew
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1 regadesly wlte Me, Spelels Lo olie: places.
7 én agaiv, wn £367 Gen wo Aepeen Him as an seperti
3 Win miller. Ba digetk bow Leal be vi going Le be ail led as
4 an expert. Tey're sayin he's a lay Gpinich becaiee Gels &
I private investigator, your seser. The case law says othoreisn.
© ntr bee meeniTied ar ae evperk = tenes evack Kise nf mate
To Fe pl Lise do vee biden Su gues Tunes, be de seelly @ vols
an sheep's clothing, Teey're trying to pat him on as a lay
3 opivion wher ats really a eport witeass in Sin ane with
10 sot ticierl ae soprizlicalus broulucce, Leal Lie Joey will
11 recopnics tim es sumeuie wo Ses saperlise Ln Lids ates su,
12 wer senor, we helicvn to sheild be prolided from testi fine.
13 Fe van we persoal beevladge, iL siwply Mi relies, an ee
11 cncerstans It, on tes wie TOIR respuiie letter.
5 £6 your once, with FEIpeSt to the s0le response
16 leben Lables ul ise Luk Ley are goitg Lo Lev Lo gel. isle
Ti ecitence, we've pol lurlh in oo papers, again, Lil's «
15 Learesy cosment. It's Lighly prelieicial wicer Ai. Teey say
13 tran in meats sl Teasttashisaios, hon o1ike tn deme
20 ral we avoves, Tor eiawpls Lie 302 Leal ave Lee seal on ily
20 at tas nome of these graliZivaticni.
2 Taey mite to ten cases, the Lumara sas asd the Gary
23 mare. fete aT Wore imvelve Gobhic ithe avideean sdorlyivg
41 revorse that vere provices by Lie goverment, sol a TOI
27 letter. fo what they're trying to predics is a letter that
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1 cays vv Looked ai ve van'l hic lisse Zevurde Liab guitve
3 Kou, 1. does th addren: Lee Tach Lal LR Govromert
1 only typleally retalus recorés Zor a few years wien tiey vere
3 reemesting records from LT years age, so it deran't have the
© imdinia nf mristeertsicees te be able te sav teat thin in
To avleally Lie sacl bevaces, bo vu.tse, gs we hive, Lie
: goversmest regularly has to get zis of recorde.
s 50 ko ire Kin akLAR ke ray, THRsRa, ewan -ouor on
10 Lee ixlan, wer we fever gol Lo wsamive Him dar eal an
1 saps Yoo Leaveled wilh him biich, 3 yes also go Lu Lie
12 slang mv eliesr sav sho mer ge there.t Wn AiesE gor to
TI ask teers snbios, se wales ina silliest wars Leal
11 Letter cuntey Lo voids be Ligily prelieieial becases tie Jury
13 will vender, well, what docs he have to say about tila And we
16 avesth bear ie poariLion Lo ba able Lo do Leal.
1 Zo got Totor, lot all Lise teasviz ve belies Lial
1: Mr. Tres: shesle be sxelices, the FOIA letter shoslc not come
13 inte nuidenon, avd agaic, we bnlinn that ben frie of
PE We. linler 2re.bd ol be an ins. relevarl Lo Leis Leial
2 vet, your senor, they alee seek to include
22 statements, hearsay statrmests and noespaper arisles abet
73 riven Andrew, and ike ackually sok ir desinl, ar 1
£1 eseselens Al, S.ckingien Pelece's seidal of Lis slleetivs os
23 my client. Sit again, brite andrew is Sot on the vitiess
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1 Lhel, we're fol able bu cross skamice Gime sb vial Liey val to
7 én in imereduee triple hearsay of vickitetan valane sayity wear
3 Prive Adress said in i own arliels wilio.l La roparker
1 against my client witioot eur ability to cress sxamize him on
3 wan
H ch pie pmo, Heeien tried be aris a 1iERIR Rin of
Te sevecilune vey, T Liick Lal ills « vesbal acl vi beads oo
© Prince Andrew, it doesn't mest tiat criteria, there's bess fo
3 statemeck by —- tharats bans co action by my aliot agaicoh
1 rim an alte ak dace Be Ln cane Tn agains Masel 11
1 elelemeite sgeiiel my vliel.
i” To cae thar they aire actually, the mizewrnr sas,
13 cone prin Lem Thane Ty alks ah l ew yo. well ae
11 to call tie reporter, that that cuilen't come Lite eviceice
13 ant se, peur seier, for these reasens, ve believe that, again.
To Lalts a disleaclion, ills Rignly prejudicial Lo alles ¢ Leiple
Ti beersey cocomesl Like Lial Lo come i wiliol vie abilily Lo be
15 able to cross examiie thet incivicial, fo for tise reasuie,
13 vein camer, wn belicen than Ean ceils cen come in.
» Tray also mae an urgmerl, Leal 0s somerow av
21 smvervening cause or that, yeu Know, it goes to the issue of
22 she sheuld be secking damages from prizer anérew, thines of
73 Keak saturn. ikon we keow, beanie your Teter revicend the
1 case Lav wilh respect to Lie comary locgment, wach liclilcial
37 is responsible for thelr eum defamatic, so it docsn't come
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1 kite cunelterativs vielis she unde have sos ali people Zuz
Sin, 70 eter people fer in, this mane in aber eel] and her
3 ceTmakion agaieel my lion,
1 fo agan, your soner, 43 you look at tack un
I cfamation, it addresses that ddrestly, asd we believe that
© tran semis son come inte cvidesan
¥ So gues Tuner, Luel's Lie deel vieik ve Lie omiibes
motion that © vas aciressizg. I'm ot sure how you vest to
3 wake Bn, IT yo wath be have opposite aoinrel spedk on bree
10 inner cow an Las wove Lo Lie olrers, or i yo. wel x Lo
1 keep mocks Lions ALY
i” Tm GET WRaRts ver preferenani
iE Mi. MOCHIEYE TURE Keep moving Lira. ik would be
0 great.
5 Tas COLE iat
1" MSL WGCERITT: Mo beep wocivg iL Lives iL, 0 Lilt
Ti ell eighl, se ve ver vel Litoogt argmesl and List fave Liew
1: scares dt
1: Te outs sen.
» MEL MOSRRISTE Trath po, oor Totor.
2 ME. SCEULYZ: Your zener, This da Meredith fennltz Zor
22 eae plaintiff, rhc sexe areiele in the ewsibie movies i to
73 evelide taskimeny reTarerans Lo prior seval assaill. Tie in
£1 en desis Lael Toepuke ui yeeleicey seletes Lo ssoties mobive
20 regarding the same, so 1'1L Keep it brie,
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reoaTen
1 Bol pies serial eseeidl, all uf wedi secires while
© MeL GieTRen was a anilE, ints irvelevach te this astiet. in
3 dooneh coms ie Loder ACT. TL deasetl devolve daterdirk. TH
1 precates even meeting selencant. Aue these aseailte co not
I make it mere or less probable that defondast dofamed
© Me. uTEr, aed smitRer dees in nnd te prev or disprern ten
Po ecendanl abused bez.
: Tass are alow classic examples of evicesce that
3 sheild be evelided nder Aa 417. Fhe Rape Shield law Carbide
10 mvidarce Goronrning Lice Se relabes see irval ving
1 Me. Giiiize. Teds tole should be slziclly sniosced
17 pareimslanty heswice these events Sappered wRes soe war 14 and
TI 1E veer s1A. Ride 17000 bare his avidenes 17 ie 6" Canes
11 to prove tat she sigages Ln any type GF sexual beisvier to
12 prove amy type of dispesities,
1" Th arab alo bo acaba der Ale AGT. Tria in
Ti edleemely pred viciel, ard beca.se iL ds ecelecail, IL vole
12 only sncwirae tie Jhry te view Me. Gliiire, a marzies mother
13 in har Bie ar as mmeral pares or Ravicg revial costast. wit
PE ieaiials an eile
2 Fads should aleo be excluded wider ©03(al, which
22 limits izteraction of cvidezer for spesifin fnstazens of
23 eordunh in ardor ko aback the vikeers! araraakar Tor
1 tmtiiidieee. Few 1 epoke sbuil bide at leigl yeetessey.
27 defendant tries to offer two particalar things to say that, sh,
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1 ete west Lrathiol shui sumetilig, sbuil belig sekeally
© mmmanited, Win tee deminer teemselues deseribe sometsicg
Bul en ieecal ly se al ans ll der Toric Li,
1 eometitn that de snegiivecally seicenseneial. £0 that veils
I homestly be asetior mind trial asd would take us far afield of
© wran Sante ave relevath te this ane
¥ Su avain, any miive pevbalive ralie Lia's past
© sexial aseazlt tiat Me, Giuffre experienced as a child de
3 complataly melloved by tha prejudicial a7 oo the Jury.
iE WAL CRSSTER: Taur Perar, Trish Tie Lie veal ove op.
IL Tor pespuess un clerdly, else op Lu pedal Sober ds ve
17 mihi monies.
iE Mei ae 1 ARieE Be Jurk a very simple ane
11 ctratgitioruare oie. We move to exclice ceregatory sewial
17 characterizaticns, This 4 a case that yur sezcr has bees
16 Cramivg Leia mertivg. Th doosntl req.ire ao of 4 Larw “rom
Ti eles counsel, lor example, Gesceibing oor clisil ese
15 prostitute or as a slit. We tioight we veils get agreement
13 whan wn rm tn ronpenr ive papers from bee Anthenn, Bik an ve.
28 brow, Leap oblecles in Lis arlirely Lo Liis molios, xo ualre
21 here asking that defense counsel it refer to our client as a
22 peestitite, zet refcr te her ar a slut, az they alan advise
23 Keir wikensees Weak mes lasgiage wodld bo apprepriaks it a
£1 essed Lziel seeliog wile o seisnetivn decir
tH 9: this particilar peist aboot prostitute, it's
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1 dnlesesting, Bm I ous)oilog dp sometiloy Lial's sol guig to
7 mappeti be, ymin comer. Tee dnfhedanels me cpert reper
BURY AN, WT St a
1 advieement the expert report from Or. Saplin, asd eo 1 cepused
I or. saplin, and 1 said, “Are yeu Sur TT's an aSeirate term
© in ten Anhesn of tein mneni amemien wn have an anilE wee
TP Gannel cunsenl Lu sexed acliviliss.” Bid he backed vio
© immediately and agresd that that vas an inaccurate term for Lim
3 to un ke describe wy alien, We GESTTRRL Ge ses the
1 daranent oun spar weps Lie bar proskilolet ix
1 Sseppropziste.
1” Tour motor Raz autierity, of soirse, under axle S11 te
13 manage Lee Leial, Le avoid Ld. Sarasrmel. or csbarrasemcel
11 Blew Tale 40% allove gui te restrict tilige tat veils be
17 substactially prejudicial with ne probative value, which is
16 coach wal we rave bere Go we would ask vo. simply Lo rigs
Tie erogaloty lesiae, bolt Crom viliesses and oppose
1 commas.
1: Me SEU weir camer, 1111 ba addraerig hn Seen
20 several poitle iv Lr oweibus wolio, slarkivg vile uber §
201 think © oan narrew this dave a Little bit at the eutéet.
2 Wr. Gizffee cozoedes bere that illceal er
73 erpreseriphics we of drign furitg Kee years Keak se wan wits
1 ceencant de acmlcelble. Hoveisz, any svicence pertalilig to
37 any nee of drugs, illegal ox set, acd alecel from acy pericds
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1 becure ur ater Me, Ghiiize vas abiese by eeieivect de
© irrmlevatr to this astine amd sheild be exeluded oder wn
3 oan
1 Tt te alee, of cures, highly predicicial ass sheild
I be exelided under ile 453, whether er net Mi. Gluffre coer
© nnd Brine wile son being shied hy Anfeedans dons “oh 6 to
ey lain or deosiees dn Lids vase.
: Goirts in the fusthers Dletrict of bew Yerk restizely
3 evalude evideran oF prior dri ie eder bets of Kore miles,
TE an lly brieted Be Lie papers. Telescasl allewpls Lo acmil
IL lide welieice on presciiplive ses ee seleled Lo seneces,
12 pesifioally whether or sot thn emerietal distress We. ETT
VE Arta 1 oven
n THE COURTY Buc wey co yeu have At Ln Jour expert's
12 reper:
1" MSL SCTE Rell, oor esperk in -- Thm anmicg
Ti gootee relecrizg Lo Jr. Times, wo de a physician. Tels
1: mecical cocter. Ee took a Till
1: Wo Gua Warts 8 wala Ring abet in. Arn ue
20 gang Lo wilraree bre ——
2 MEL SCHULTZ bo, your seser. We're enly claiming
22 damaers with repent te the cwetinzal distress siffteee frem
23 kee doTamatien. Bed alre, takitg dri proaribed Sor varios
£1 mented cealti lees de sol Lor came Lidag ac mmotiviel
37 distress. They're two Gifferest dasies. fo acy marginal
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1 pisletive vein de uitveigons by toe prelicioe. Again thie de
AE mp—————————————
1 seeks to sxelids any alleged criminal beter Srom comisg inte
© this case. ase the seeral wider of svidesoc bar the
© nhemduebion 0% thin evidnenn, TY coon.
: Ba Ae Braid he svete Lim wily way winibed ietuey
: ousla come into evidence de tiresgh file G5, bit that zile
0 ee ons Le ah Vg ol 0 rl
n 0 Lie bow parties, gus Sore, Me. Ghiiize de Ui
7 J NUE Th SOC WR EF CH J WG SO
nan
Ir sz vids alleged act, wide me. Giiffre denies, dees
31 osu oa rie ils selon sow wok Go Us
1 testhiliess, specially a crime Like thls, vilch specifically
Fe Lanesger, Teowbn beak Li Urge 0 widen $n wend
Hl comael for defendant has pit forth an GIETPRORTEd argmest
So thn we, GaSe lefe the mite crates heewise of allenic:
£1 lest tie Caites States to gel avey Crum seiescest's abies.
% sz moreover, the dommestary evidence in this case,
SUA TITTY ARAN, Puc.
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1 union Gee bess procives Ln slecovesy aie s.bmitles Lo lads
© mirn, stews tan in was defedacn wie seen ber te teailace,
BH ve TA SE Ara AS A, a
4 she gets there. So 43 thls LLepPOITES ArgumSt that celencant
I left tho nnited states booaisc of come aesiaaties of a tp far
Tin te be Belinved, thee than maken SnfRedash as amemsrery ATEAR
Lie aul ans dmplivales Ges dn Lie vesysuiig.
: fo 1 con't basically, there's just thie argument
3 in alee eden by Khe Then Kak Tatar, We GILTTRs comes Back
10 Lo Lee Criles Shales Lo live bere. Grete ol “lemicg
IL acvieslivie, sie ves Cleelis seeicenl. Io she vere weicied
17 aber arimizal Mahility iz ren bmited sates, she wedles'r
13 come back Lo live rare
n Sit tie Gierall pots le any marginal probative valis
17 from these allegaticns, wiih | don't thizk there is any, but
TEL Car cashly oulseicted by Lie prejodice il vo.ls ase
Ti Me. Gillre ane shoole be eacled cee all Lose roles.
1 Moning now to podst LO. Me. Gliiire has regiestes
13 tran tha Geirk avalide any avidnean regardicg rpcial
28 merooling, Leaver, av earile selivearcios. Tor Liix
21 argument, your senor, | request That L approach the bench aid
22 give ven a few domments upes whieh thtae areaweses are based.
23 1 rave Tour decks bat Dm Rasdivg up.
a T cave to get & Little bit dite tie vescs ceze, co
27 please bear with me. In thls case, Ma. Gizffre — well, schecl
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1 records have bees perl ui clevussry, Toey show a Gletuzy u
© rampart mriaey and failed emises. Ais eesnitites prise bad
BE Ra Sr NYS, RPA HY
4 these bac acte co not ge to trithiilisss, so they're alic
I exoluded wider wile ©34,
H Wer sid alee be eeslided beawien their predadion
Lieb db vende ves He. Giooce vemally uilveigie sip piobelive
value and shezls be exelided wider 102,
s Weanats a Fuge remetensen ine Sore, yeu Coror.
10 Mrmee Lriarcin ard Jovesile del isgoarcing Look place wey
11 gests ago wien ste ves @ miter. Taeze's & dol oo vase dew un
12 ein shar dn dn Mr. GIETfrots Brief on page 7 te 23. wir whan
TI ve. shell be mers 67, your Tver, bn Lala closs aomisalion
11 un revere, Looklig Sp veal tie namber Guces oh tess
17 transcripts actially meas, it shows the sppesite of tic
6 argumerl Lal Gelerdark adanaes in ver response brie’ Lal.
Ti eke ves it scioul, ane Lierelote, fol aboses by fer cliesl
1 To the contrary, the recorse sion that she vas not in
13 reread aver BalT tee time sha was suppered to be and 2id coh
20 complele ver co.rses. Tease Lew-seriphs are “ol
21 self explanatory, lideed, locking at the face of them, it
22 seems Like she vas corelled asd attending soheol, hut wish of
73 Kee iTormakios i Linea reascir are saber codes Led by the
£1 Teln Seach Cusity Svicul Dlelziel, Tower svivol sevurse cools
27 sot be placed iste evidence for all the reasons above, but if
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HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_011327
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1 gun are dncliies to do Liem jus coils sul place tiem dito
© ewideman fairly witteun tesnimesy resardicg war all tees
3 coder 0 Ure Leamsariphs wean, or al & bare wisi, Le
1 introduction of evidence ane lretrictic that makes explicit
I what all the ceded on the TrasesEipts meas.
H wefemdann irene failed to dn For fun £1liGeman on
Lie ane lovked al wial Lie codes aze bore adeaiving Lie
argument, bit either vay, it's not a good Zaith argument
3 beanine, ar yor cer sea in ke dociment | arded op, these
10 codes and Lian weaniogs were dela led al, teehee
IL Me. Ghiiires cppusilive Lo Lie molive Sur somecy cement,
12 a 1 wnild ask the Girt te refer te the fasts ar page 3 of
13 bee slatemel oF Tacks
n So nat tie secures actually shor de rampant trisney,
13 years of ahsesce from ssheel while defendant was abusing her,
16 rien show ample opporloily Cor ube, avd are, it Cael, i
Tr sccors wile Lie SLighL records, wi face alos beet prodices
15 dn tide case, widen place Me. Gliiize en 21 Sligite with
13 dafamdanr sheard dntirey dprkeiste private plan.
» So ax Lhasa records acl ally sow Leaner, alles
21 grades, failure to complete coizess, These sheild be excluded
22 umter all the wiles © sited carlicr, or at a hare mizimm,
73 imkrichion Lo Khe Jury abou what Ke codes meas and dotailitg
£1 cow many Gaye ui school Me. Shuiize actually allessss, a nomber
27 that is conspicuously absent from delesdast's bried.
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fi Tuxadog sekt tu plalatizi's meties Gi Linice amber
RE ET r—————————————
1 hiléteed, fnelitng chavacterizations of fer as a bad ciilé ur
3 a rmaeay. Jefcndant's pespesse to this trick te seaflate two
Tune band, wilh a fepleliv Cur Lehi dines ul sculiee.
: rior bad acte sie may have cummittsd as a ciild, Like
FC OT IE SI NE os SO
IB CORRE SU SS
Hts the wily repitatien that's at Leste 43 thle case.
13 Defendant's defamatory statements damaged Me. Giiffre's
Tr ot ne eis ol tes Shulinete: pererelions heusbec:
1 particilerly ee fem a trochles erlshons, Oneirrsnoes, sich
18 an rimming any rom vor Fen whee hn war a abil, am simply
2 shone also be sxelided séer ile 437 becaise vids is
“2 inteesiorion of cviceien ta fry Te show fer chasietcr. and
£0 repitetion cur beeisg e vnerectes Zur Leithiilises ox
7 smtesthfilsess, it doesn't come in sds thet male.
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1 Ser reputation Sur Lrithioliess Goss fb gu Lo acy bao
3 criminal comviclion: are qosarally Col admissible 10 pees
4 after the fact. fo presentation of thls type of evidence i:
I simply nothing mere thai a smear campaign, whist is presoribed
© by miIniple vednral wiles of awidnean,
¥ Su cially, any meciiiel probalive veloe on lisse bes
© acts as a child ds vastly cutweigied by the indie prejudice it
3 would amie Me. GLTTre beter a fury.
1 Tour Toror, toe Thu Lorrie Lo pois “uber 17. Matus
1 sekett Lie Cott Lo exclote wokience zelalisg Lo Lie Lax
12 sempliaton of We. GH3FTrts SoteSor-profit wietime inti
VE AUR RVR A Fi, ite ee WER HE Seo Be
11 emelicen. Tee alleges tax compliacce Gf Ler ot Sor presit
13 dots net go to vheticr or tet defendant defamed Me. Giuffre ad
16 doer col Go Lo wreliar or col dalardarl abet Wo GIL.
1 TL stonle also be eaclced iver A020 TU Gs higely
1: preficicial. It voile give the vrong impression to tie Jury
13 bean MeL GiiTTents organicakios in cen tax compliant, wrict, in
PE ele ih is a Cel Leal ce’aedenl sess ol ackeowlesge in ur
21 bres,
22 Provize whether or ot Mi. Giuffre's aot-Sor-prefiv is
73 ka complinth wei leo ba a mith Leia] avd, Traskle, a
4 elumetor to tile vace.
tH surthemere, all of deferdast's conelisiens ahost
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1 Me. Giiiirels nob Sur presl ex complisice are bases ui an
7 eremne report hy Ror pUYPArERd eporn, at SNperr who sheild he
3 celine Crom LasliTying boci.sa Mis reporl. Lackad melbodol ony
1 and he opiies on topivs far afield Sxem his expertise.
E #eoeé, asp allogatiens that her oot-Sor-prefit is net
© tar memplinn is pressdinial, misleagiog, Aemfirieg te ton dur
Po beveees dl hes Selig Lo so wile Lie claim al dees bi Lids
s Vor Cover, wn asked Tor feTardatite bax relies in
10 Leis cares 10 Ley Go Lo Leo leens, ax Gelendarl arg en,
1 lhey ale go Lo deoengent's Leatioodiess: BL Lids puiil, we'ee
12 zor gaping to ger them smedl the Sire day of trial, se we will
13 mel be able Ls aTTackivaly eros samine dated on Liane Ln
11 retizia, ans ve won't be able to dee GitLL then 12 che’: pals
17 taxes on all the mosey and gifts asd in-kind payments from
16 Tprlein Leal shets received or bus bepl Lil away Crom Lie
Ti govertmerl. Uilike Me. Giilte's Lex iiloemelion, velessarl's
15 tax dniemmetion goes te wir case dn cades ae de relevant
WW Auth,
ET 90 pith suber 13, ve mova Lo acl de euidares
21 relating to Ma. Gluifze's alleged tax compliance. Your senor
22 whis 42 a defamation asties whore reputaties is at issue. Tax
73 compliasae dens vk Go ko a repiakios, ih in a privabe mather.
a fevors, there de fo svlvence do Lids vase tial any
37 goversmest, either Lnited fates or Anstralia, believes that
Prep
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1 ste de sonomplisst vith Ger Lewes, Deividect's porpertes
7 expernts exaliaties of tein fn wrelly Saves, as explaieed i=
4 Similarly, Me. Gliffre's taxes are vielly srrelsvast
© to this case. sven sevicas beet by the everest, soir
[TT SA SS J Pp —
T complicive acho evidence ue price Len ocumplicnes wis iL
© takes the case too Zar afield of the este being trisd,
LER SE RA ————
3 tie matter ob sans, Sere seseset Sails Lo sir sy type ok
7 JRC SENG (OF: SIE NG WO J
11 thls des podst Heat's Li Glepite amg the parties, ai
13 resolving suet an fai veld also involve azetiey mini trial
FE wtih be wot wi Ural win Leds Loe uk wise sve 0 more
1: inZumatio vietie: x Get Geleicet elms Me. Giiifre vie
TWEE SR SER, Wh
I sevelemest agresmet and the amesst between Me. Gliffre asd
2 uestrey speeds dnen cvicesan,
£1 paymt ds tex exempt Gives tos Caites Bates deve but that's
3 all this ds, it's a device te try to get ax improper aimissics
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1 0f a eeltlemect amooal betvest Meo Ghiiize at Jeiirey Spates.
7 memsrdizely, hin sheild be cownlenely evelided heawine acy
3 marginal probulive wile Lis bas or Lhe claim in gredly
4 citweigned by the prelicice to Me. Giuiize.
E L am Sot up Zor the Sext ee, so I'm gods to take a
© break. wack ve
¥ MR. CRECILL: Bpein, gues Suivi, I'm op Lo sabes 11
© ew the deste of Me. Gliffre's being a victim of domestic
3 wielaran. This in cen relevah or misimally relewash, Tht
10 Me. Gites birder, of Goose, Lo show Lie ewoliotal Sizlres:
IL cemeges Lieb sie sooieies as a cwsndl un Me Mavell's
12 esamators statewesr, até the fury eat agree er disagree with
13 weatrar seats carried Fer burden 0 proo”
n 15 ve Giseretenc Lie eSeicsit's argent Curzectly,
13 taey say well, this wesld have been a distressing event dn
To vole lite und, Lrereore, we should be Trea Lo ithrod.ce iL it
Tr Cres el Lie Jorg. 90 vooree, lial srgowesl vould allow, i
15 acveptes, seseitially any bas tilig that's Lappeses in ay
13 plaithi TT 10% te be ished $7 tear sack cmntional
20 disbress demiger beca.se, wy Goodress, riz sverl Mere or Lard
21 tad some encticnally Gletresiing effect on yen. fe it haz
22 mizimal to le probative valie, asd the pression is very
23 sabstastial
a Yoox Boor, cbeluiclye cee & great teal of experience
27 asd are vell avare of the domestic viclesce, blame tie victim
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i
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1 attilice taal Gee Lo be vonizunted Lo vazduie vases.
7 breeieerly, 17 herets fomestin winlemas thats an fame, an
3 cport wileans comes 10 Lo wplaic Lo Lh Jey, on, wy die
4 she leaves Way eid she stay with this fellow vio was beating
I ter apr she was free to walk out of the relatienahip. Way
© Rigen se de ni ane tear in a weeln Viteramien than | kee
gees Tenor de semilise wilh se Lisl we viles in ves bade, as
fo well.
s We oth want te get ike tran i Trent eT be ary in
10 Leis parlicotar case. Tein ix a blame Lie cicLin Laclic Leal
1 shuldntU be alloves. This fas very mesgiiel, Lo any
12 probative valic and a very siemifisate predadinial eofoar
13 bomen Lee Jury wil] peleshial ly blame Le vickin Tor slayieg
1 wats cer abiedve spuise.
5 bow, in additinn, you'll zetice from the pleadizg that
16 re deemrhe arash itlerl Jul on askivg uarkions abo.l
Tr Lele, bil Liey ale werd Lo go dil Lie vole ceimitel vase
15 apadnet Me. Gluiize's Gisbase, jus keer, Viethen he appeared or
13 wran tra Seles charger are and a wariney af tito. Ahan,
JE ebuionaly, max ever less probulive wile Leas lve i= ormalion T
21 vas dlecuesing a moment age and shenld be independently
22 exnluded.
a Wee ek nme op Bn ikem 15. Red Rare, we ark Le
1 cave encliced any eggeetivne tial cox wilh a 17 year ols de
27 permissible. voi will recall that there's debate abost exactly
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1 eel years ens viel birtidere vers in ploy ens sectly wal
4 yes vere, $n fact, 170 ox whatever iT de. We're set taping te
© ewelude waa
: er. Timited poieh thah unten bevieg tn adres ne in
¥ Lal they stliath sage "Bh Sahe shu ves Fhe Lbasminem. obe’s
tale game.
3 vunsesting te seal scliviliss ui Lie sabie lial ste at dese
n MEL SCHULTZ: Tarai te ftem Lo Li tie emcibis
12 merien. Ne: Giuffee has moved the Amt to exslide medial
Tr sblesbiv bo delendent's cepuise: Deleasar bere does suk
1 cite a atigle case vere a coir silos scmbaston of Snrelates
TE ET wR A a
2 records sxe selevat Gere, snd there are privacy desiss at
2 sake. in aor, defenéase dors mer mite to a risele sae in
a Ii ceswiantls sitire tespuies she cites tuo vases
3 only. either of them have acythitg to do with wat docmets
SUA TITTY ARAN, Puc.
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1 might be semittec ab trial. Soli axe uzdsze sweoledig
7 diseeuery dispites smder wile OF
3 part, “row “ar magicrl recordin, weile dated, wa
1 abiaing ber, eich as when defendant tuck Ser to a hospital here
3 iz vow york wien she was only 17, and the payesclogical reeords
Fo rmlated fe me. GiTTrn, wie avn bees prediend, eine
Po dienlally sie eum 2011 and heme veosidanl as ber abuses, Gu
other mecival recurde are relevant ad shesle be excluded under
3 Ae ann
1 Mel Gilre in seehicg damaes or ewolional dislress
IL oom seeemetive, TU sues Sol open op Lie Slo gales Lu eresy
17 ritgle medical free she's ever Sad i er 1. Me. Gintire
13 ban present reords, sueeyis i Crom Leealmssl Tor a Carrel
11 bite to cetalle uf her giving Lista. Teese are net relevait,
17 ant we can ave a raling in advazee of trial that these things
6 rela be asl.
1 Telesarl unly seeks Lo se Lise records Lo conlose
Lf the dssues belore tie Jury. Deleicact oifers to reason Zor
13 addrarrivg the relevanen of rid docaecte eee by on an tris,
PE ame T LEAF Leese ca be salaly esc ed al Leis Tonelre
a ME. MOCAMLAY: Your senex, ext i: mmber 17, which ve
22 addressed dz esr papers, as well, about the prier scrtlemest
73 agrecmsch. Veutve bard abest ih ie Weis cane, avd wn Fave
1 ale iat tial shuils sot come filo seloeice.
tH I thick they'd like to wae it to propose that that
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1 amit hes somelilng Lhe tie Jury shuodd voredusz, Touz
7 comer, he papers ser Sore very slearly thar shorats a
3 rpeciTie fla of evideres diredlly on pith wilh respect Lo
1 eettlemest agreements, ai they can't be Gees in that mauier.
E T0Rr aor, we Cite To ON Paper: on THAT with reapoot
© te amy prior ceptlemeen agreement being embed fete mide
Tal ie Leial
: Mi. CREEELLY 1 believe I Lave the next three.
s Them 15 tren in dotamakion Vikigatien. fed your Cover
10 ix mmr Lal Lars wax 4 reparale lave il Lralls spot ol o
IL like silistive where Cassell aie Sovards tiled a celemslivi
17 aerins in deride state cert asaitor ala ersteeitr. ala
13 arsrewile bre cocbarelaimed. Teal was 1ikigaked i= Tlerids
11 State Court for bust a gear. Ultimately, tie pasties settles
17 their differences in an vnddselosed financial ATFALEmGIts ad.
6 park of Lie comprebersive selllemel, Casall une Tours
Tr Leer wilicrar sommes Jogmesl epaicel derstovile.
1 It was as expressly Gnceratoos wien tie parties agreed
13 per thir comTidenhin) rebklawect, thers war tn a shatemer
PE ie wien iL sen wade Leal Ma. GE. rea” ows rar
21 allegations, ane the viticraval of the reference te the Zilings
22 gn mer fntexded ve he and skesld sot be aststried as heise an
73 mekeoslodguet. by Swsrds and Grerell rat the allagakions made
1 Ly Me. Ghiiize vere mictaken.
tH Hiere was a portion of the statement that talked abot
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1 "mistake", aig Lisl ves dnclvales bo lie plessiog viliczeviog
© ten summary udomenn wetins ar Tolless: dwar ard cassel]
3 do uck-owlodge ral bre pblic Tis ie Le Crime Ticking
1 2igits Act case of the client's allegations agalzet Defendant
I oorshowitz beoan a maior distractics from the merits of the
© unliefmimdnd Grime Vintine signe ann nase by aninicg Gelay
Psi ae a vensegieive, Lesies bel Lo be a Laclivel mistake.”
© "Pactical mistake." “For that reaser Stvarde and Cassell Lave
3 cresen te witidrae the refereed Tiling an a codition at the
[ERENT
1n Taal's allo very fnlezesting leveoile bul Lal's «
17 Maurin than ders ser Rae Me. GUTS ana party. It was
13 Caneall aed Swards vars. Blas Carseesile, wile claim cei
11 back ane forth. Cassell ane Tuvarce Were, oI ceizis,
17 vindicating their ow prefessional interests asd their
16 profesional repolalion rasposdivg Lo Lie ahlacks Leal hui bees
Ti mee by Me. Jetshowile, and Liey ciose Lo sellle Lie cee, ax
1: cio Mr. Dershowitz, Zor vidselosss Sinancial reasons.
1: Sm alee, Trom ten fact | Ri-k your comer in cow
JE mare, Lia Liere ware sows wilsexses who ware tol ai lable
20 sarah ancome ha: come forward in thle vase te zay that she wa:
22 a traffic to alan Jersheeits in the samc way That Me. GiuSfre
73 leans, and Leak war iTormakios Kak bas only reesily bocows
4 avallatle,
tH Ae prdst is, you have sncugh business on your hands
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1 wth getting Lite tie cetalle uf siuties sepssale lavsidt
LE a A ————
4 a5 det me make clear that 1 smpasize tie farroviess
© ef ou movies Boxe. ve sock te preslide criceson dnvolvise
© wean Tininanion. your caer tan sleeasy meard Sow my
¥ whldespun He. Heenbegs vie See peseabed wed siyomel dus hy
: Sershovits shoild net be in tide case at all, ai of comes, if
5 we prevail on pein 1, thin point becomes irrelevant
Ir Rl wT to pA Ts de ot
3 geltieg satu Loe seleks ui Lie svpriale Jecsidls TU aut
FI fa, wh, well Mesh. Wey clen't Ma. Gluize Juli the Lawsuit ur
13 wip hasn't she filed a lawsuit against dershoviti; wiat's
v etl, ui wctens pot Tomes ta. avsen bere ate 5
1: vanety oo statutes of Limitatics azine toe comfy, ss
VE On HE We ESR Sen WR SR
BE Fave sah 418 fn al Unk pie rere se ering
I cusslderatics that ge inte iether x net emecte like
22 me. GHsEEre weld file a laessit, ase these dares SESlEZ'T be
A pesticide Leveidt.
% Moreover, defendant apparestly rpies iat statemests
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1 thal Soverie anc Cassell meoe in tile ulier Lavell are sumstos
© binding on we. Gite. dwards and cassell bad separate legal
3 corel, Tlorign allorrey Tack Searole. Walaear wi Goi or
1 in that case fan't bizelsg on Me. Gliiire.
E nzder the relovact rales, a3 AVIOEEET'S STACMGETE A
© BitAins bm a Alien atly an marten wiESiS Ee scope nf He
PT relelivsebip, Rit Lie vas ciidicelicg sepatale prossseivial
© interests, this was net viidicatisg seme diterset of
iE So Tar #11 Liane rescore, ve anh Lial Lie dal amalior
IL Liligelive bebeees Decsiucils ai Sovasie ais Cassell be
12 rxelzed. 0f sours, vo Rave the separate amie ef ersten:
13 ie Teen eT yn alrendy
n Let me tira tien to pelt saber 15. Bere agali, ve
17 have a narrow issue presented to your senor. We are asking
Tal yo. eelide Tage Marrats alison Lia joitder molis.
Tr Ee gour Teter ix well avare, Lie Leiggering ecesl it Lids case
1: vas wen Me. Ghizire, then kown as Jaze Joe bumber I, Zilsc a
13 moties te dic ama ten 1 ad dae wen 7 i= ta Clerics pre
PE bare Crime Ficlime Sighs aelion
2 bow, Udge Marra denied that metic to Jedn, but at
22 whe same time to said, “rte reason I'm devine tho moties to
73 ein in ves ane prekicipale it kee ase i okRar wave wikiooh
1 being a Commel party Ze cited, ase T gots, "0: cores, Jase
37 dow @ can participate in thls litigated effort to vindicate the
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1 rlgnte ui elmilesly edtistes victine”
7 Fee erm Tamla wie in
3 WRC CRSITIL: Okay. RiGhL. Go Lealte Tdge Marrats
1 ralize.
E and you understand That was ehvicsaly on a teokzisal
© dmiténe irri. Yen dnimier imie, weeteer than was a
Tew Jeiiger meliv ur a bad melivi, bes selhisg Lu du wilh
© uiether or net Ma. Gluffre vas celamed.
s FECHA Cow do vo! propose te FerAl Le Jeisder
1 mokien weiceskially?
1n MRL CHESSLL: Rigel. Fe Lidek Lie Jules molive
12 shesle simply some iste cvidesan as the pleadicg te wins
TE Me GETTee Tw serey —- He Maal] ws repent
n THE COURTY Luck, stuck, ais barrel?
5 Mi, Gelb fe ve ave chvicusly vaitizg for guidaso
16 Crom your Teter. Tor acmple, §° vo. mv. look, Tersrowils,
Tr lela Joel nel gel slo Lal, Lial's
1 THI COUET: That SASK'T anever my Giesticn. Please
1: Ma Cade 1 apelenica.
ET TU CUCRT: Vou Lalb bool mary rials, many
21 argumeite. Yeu vant to PAT in the entize motions
2 Mi. Gmffsbt ana, uEless yedr seier == 1 wazt to he
a Tes. Hovever, dr gui cays look, Dezstewite lea't
37 coming iste this case, there are some allegaticns about
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1 Serebunits thet ve wicks ties believe, du LGR ui goss Killige
BT
4 THE COUT Bit gut dent have an eeited versie uf
3 ti dztervesties moties that yo wenlé Like me to consider.
: We. As wn west prepa. mn, sen ve gk, rn
tT tum gues Tunes uh Lie molieie is Linise.
: TS GOUITH 57 the vay, fet parestistically, folk,
10 ie Kia Bl Ayr ol EE Tae Dy la Te
1 wpieestin ay views vi Twill 1 bees seve sag wipes oy view
12 or those fms, Wi the trial may ta in a £Sforese
n ME CRESSMLY We ineretand. Rad ube of tee Zeaseis
13 we have tet prepesed a redacted doinder meticn, that shoved wp
Tt seenly wilh a pesibie wills: Te Uo Uw beak veg bo
1: process, as vere happy to Get iicance from ju Sunor, bit
we're sitting today, the Jodsder netics gees In 45 Ate
© emeimeen.
£1 legal plessiig, Ges, T vesces vest Geppeoec, Jisgs Herke mace
3 a rlizg, ve don't seed te get dite the details of that ralizg.
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100 vunzes, we voids veil Lo kplals Lisl Lise wens dios
© separate veazos why these allegations were imelided. dn
3 Mares rserrad Lo Lhe Tiel of Lhe cise resets. Be ee igh,
4 otier aciiticnal reascie wy those were included. It weild
I cssextially, acait. be a mini trial abest, well, what docs a
© dpinene mori measi HA ver Tila ueder wile 130 In sEesls
have been aver Rode Zl. Maal did Lie Jive wo?
: It hae no bearing at all on the desves in the case,
3 and i, oT emiere, Ran wary mbskabia] prelidieinl ote,
10 bucaize iL Tests Lo a corlzion of Lie Try. Tre Joryts Legit
1 Lo sigese wl, well, veel's gulag vi dn Lie Coime Ficlime
17 digtne ant ease whe rhe daman in weerier or ter Me. GintTre
LER
n ow, biere de an desi Ln tiedr plesclive. Tied say,
12 well, this could end up being relevast because there might be
6 owe bid of uw privilesed sellivg ize. Reait, TLeiok your
Tr Toro correctly wes puitlisg ool a mowed ago, il Liisge stor
15 ap dn the trial, it's possible that sumetiing ceils ceange, but
13 en dastr akinipate thar hesomicg as freie in En trial an rei
20 painh. 1 Ure baie of wealrer Lei was a privileges seblivg
21 semetow become: an Leste in the case, then it veld be time to
22 revisit thar dsrize the trial,
a T= any aveek, innien aT whaler bein was a priviloged
£1 estiing vr set erent litigated do Szuit of Lie Jury, test's o
37 legal issue Zor your senor to determine wether the setting vas
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n
reoaTen
Lures sl pelelleges, Fe sul ake Jiiy evidence un Lael,
© wes kee, dae Marrats mili, and therefore, tan seild be
3 orale. Ge ral in ihm Lebar 13.
1 Let me tirs then te item 20, ase I'm Gaseling that.
I ids de cesestially a hearsay cNeIoisc. We wast informatics te
© be remluied regarding chenan evan. Avi asmiee arbres
© Suples hes sel bees vepuses css de sol vuics Lo be o viliess dn
tthe case.
s fin we srdorstand wan We doTasdant ie plaseivg te do,
10 arate planing Lo call Meo Jersouilo We. Jersrosils ix coin
IL Lo say Me Suglen Lod him Gaal Me. Gioiize Lulé fim somelbiig,
12 ace sn en Rave the marin Eearsay within a Searsay svarion.
13 Meo prablon, oF course, ix Leal Seylas in vel. bers
n Tie cezeisant's pleaclive cay, ah hab, but thle de an
17 admizaien by Me. Giaffre, asd it veald be 4f Me. sevlan vere on
16 le shard so we could xk For queslions abosl, well, did
Ti Me. Gillre teally sey lial? Rou wrel wid she meer? Boo
15 wasn't sie sayiip thst she's been abuses by Me. Maeell! Sit
13 teey wath fo kip over than istormediatn friTT, ave ersieeins
20 wescriba wnal Topla describes Meo GI ra sais, ave Liable
20 ebviezaly and then I'M assuming Jershouitz 1: gedig to pit
22 his spin en what Mr. sevlan alleendly sad to him. There are
23 a sek of aivemekasac © wRiah beak Fearsay wikis Searsay
£1 ids Le scmieeible Lecenes Me. Suplen ses nol bess sepossss
37 and 4s met here, it's rask miltiple hearsay.
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reoaTen
1 Tam abut done al Lads polit.
7 Wire regard te thn vemai=ieg insies, yest] be Cappy
3 Le ear Lak Trinh Liege can bo sped cp. Ba bal ev Ll
1 these tases soile simply be, as josz Rencre 1 thick vas
I suggestisg a memcst age, deferred te trial.
H Vem 1, 20 Phy Py Re TR PT 20, and Th, tonne
wre swrl bn Jusl kad oo proleclice messes. Tow ue
: Zuotnote or caveat ve vould acd to that, yeir Homer. We thizk
3 tein gets puted te the Leial, bah we weld siaply ask vein
1 Taran Le diredl delenee cecal batons Lie fel Low cil oil of
IL lie beg un any on Loess lial Liwte be o sitebar or bestiie
12 urside of the fury Sur an thar, ve: kee, oir metic is
TE Timine Apel becows wosl. beta Leeytue 8 esady 6" Teale y
11 pit At a Treat of tee Jury.
5 Tie ene that's of particslar concern 4s alleged had
16 aks by Lie detense Loam. BL various poicle, Tinh your
Ti Toror, cietlotalely, tes sees some, jo. heow, ltackly
1: ageressive lagiage cirectes to the plalitizz's team cere by
13 thn Enfeere foam. Untre proparnd te repent oat ate ownry
20 ave of Lrose allegalions. Batve Leis ol Lo Gel i-lo La back
21 and forth because we thizk it'z irrelevast.
2 sur 42 there was to be some kind of az avtask lauehed
23 on any of Kea mombars 07 Kea Aeber sanillar Tim, of rad
£1 Suwarce, myeels, ve voile ack lial ve be chien leave lo scree
37 that at sidebar, in-camera, or eutaide the preseice of the Jury
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Leu thal ve ven beep Lie cect biel be have Sie sumelidig bed
7 whan sheds hes he BRlE agaiean oir alien aeny from the Suey
3 Bk all Wrase remiiing Wing ve re io agroomel, 1
4 think with the sigeestich Jui vere perhaps making 4 moment ago,
I we cas deal with these issues at trial.
H Aarts ie omsibin mokiss i= limise, your sor
¥ THD COURT: Teath yu.
: ME. MEKNINGER: The emcdbie metic: reads like a list
3 of cunryEhing plaiLiTT ban Tin aboct or asyiiing that veild
1 Lrdareil rer claim Cor dames
1n Plediliss gooled Paseim Li ter teply Liles com =
12 parimslar federal evidenon trearise, até | weild like to tell
13 bee mark, se 10h aul Le worl, importasl parks, and Leal ix
11 tie vies tat relate te A0iibi.
5 43 that treatise reads, "Character is az elemezt of a
16 detesse ina ceTumilion cane 17 lve deeding parky elaine Lal
Tr Lie slalemesls in goeslive ace Lice en seeks Lo prove Lial Lie
15 pladntizs as the character scribes to hex or to zesice
13 damagnr by sowivg than ber repitation in re bad te statomeh
Ww a
a “an such cases, pazevant to ile 403, all foams of
22 sharaster evidezoo are agmissible whrrever relovast, inelufize
73 opitios, reputation, vd spesiTie isrhaaes a7 eendich.t
a Be your Honor fuss Ln ver motion te dlemiee zoling of
27 rebriary 26th of last year, “hough ceZendast never called
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1 plelatiic Lier, to cell fer clalme shelve Live Lisl have
© bere sree no be ene dewasds the sane meatig. Plaiteiet
3 cunvol be waking claims sow Lo ba Loko. bal dre ebvio.s
1 lies witht being a liar.
E #5. Maweell has stated dn her newer after that that
© Emr seatemest was trier fear in, plAiSRESS ina iar. en in
Lies sabilles by Fade 30s Lo dileviove all uime uo chester
evidence, dnclicing specific instances of condict, spires, aid
3 reputation
1 al. coms Lal weitere look Tike? PLaisli’ ts wolter
IL ceeviibes es es a Liss, plelilio's Slee seseibes des se a
12 Mar, plaizrifis cwplover from 2507 deserihed fer as a liar
iE Vor Tovar, 1 wails Vike ko shark wi be Sieh ave
11 that PLatifis started with, ane that de metic Ln limdie 4,
17 widen 4 S411 clizten beizg on the island,
1" Mes Mawel] is goin Lo Lerbity ul Leis Leial, asd
Tr erets going Lo Leslily regarcisg Lie obelons lies Lial
12 plaiatizs tols Ger. One story that plaintiii as tols de that
13 MeL Maven!) wns on the ielasd wits a1) Clinker and Reread © an
28 a iear pari TTT way approscs, yor Toror? Tae Lires
2 eiibate. wwe Zor sow.
2 Ta covsrs 1 tRizk in duplicate, te the extent that 1
2a biek
a ME. MEKKINGER: 10 Like to Zizel chzect tie Cuszt'e
37 attention to the sews article by
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1 THD COURTS I'ew seas AL,
3 COURT: Ver, Thee read i
1 ME. MEKKDNGER: Okay. It's the oie dn which
I me. oiaffre, en mares Ith, 204d, caw a loag asd lengthy
© imherrice te saves Geirmeer dearibing Far experineen on te
eles wilh 3il1 Clislus, wilh Al Suze, wilh AI Guze's wiie,
2 with all kises of Zane people. Ac the ieland event featured
3 Marge aed media covarage. 17 yo “ehiae Khe dak of thal
1 arlicle, your Torer, iLtx Mares sie, 2011
1n Te cel socomenl 1 prurkies do a press slalomel
12 rues hy mislaine mavenl] on marek 15rk, C011, se five dave
TI Tatar, ie ukies sha wrilen, ae oF Rar alloran, Gn islaiee
11 Maxiell ceides tie Farivie allegativie abit Ger Gast Lave
17 appeared recently in the medda. These allegations are all
16 elie alae
1 Toor Turor, Lie lesl covomesl T wool Like Lo dizect
1: your attention to by the vay, after Ma. Maxvell piblisies
13 tein prace releane, Wirgicia shorts 2if Sof sin Sor, sha did
20 ol claim Leal, sre mai bear ewoliowal IY diakressed or i+] red
21 by being calle, essestially, a lar in this partieclar pres:
22 release. and alin, with respet to the sill Gliztes artisle,
23 our Fomor, ten evideran ab heial will show a subekarkial
£1 smber us emeile betvess Tizglide Tobeile ese Me. Chuzviez
37 contemporazeece with this article. In tose of them does she
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1 fo yeux enor, tie last soeiment, and it really, 1
I thizk, astaally helps clarify the gation your senor raised
© whee we same in to amie gi moreine, An an email. (80s an
tT emell rom Ghisleite Memvell Lu Ale Deretovile, Jaiacy o
© 200, and dt has a decimest attacied called "Four Press
3 complaizto
iE Tour Toror will tolice Leal Lis doc.mesl ix tol
IL mashes cuncdsential, AL ves proses by Heo Meswell veers peas
17 aan, dn is marked Geislaine Mawel) S007, and it's a
13 combo belyaas Farrel” avd Alan Tarseowite, rower wile
11 hom sie Goss Gob Late a JGAt Gelenie agreement, ane that's
17 wy she produced this email,
1" Four Teror, Leis awril, ax vo. cs Lell Crow Lie sale,
Ti ves senl loot Gaye aller Lie allegecly velamalocy slelemesl al
1: deste. It reclects Ma. Maxwell's cusaler of all of tie
13 statement Trom tha paper tat Pave hess show to be
20 complelaly oLroe or srow i comsislerey i rar shary. Tacs
21 article de listed so you van Zin that link that zeferences tie
22 lies are dzeensisteasies.
a Four Tovar, BT vos look ak Kein docimeth Keak wan rer
1 Jiet a Zev ceye ater tie Janiary Zi small, ane joo Gaz to
20 page 3, which is actually the attached document, “soir Press
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1 Complaiite®, Lecaiss Me. Maxell says ste's prepariog s press
7 complaitr i hn Ue, §% orer words a legal series, the thine
Bp pe Tey A Rs WL An rl oe
1 procices ever a year age.
E ow this document reads at the top, "Jrafted by
Tome. Meewrll. 1 Raue aepind irnen ites ad mieten rom
To arlicles, an my vomesle ace ii vzave ales Lis goole, Toe
: relevast article that the guotes came from ie Listes below the
3 Mash mieke. Gelow, 1 Fisk, are some of Khe frraitable
10 corLemsiclions avi §-Lureslicg adi bina) delails Lal ven be
IL ee dn Lie eller Lo Loe medl ase bn Lie collowiog press
1 semplainra. An addirien, thin arvisle on dnrhotein pe may
13 ries eaipra
Ie) at 1a tie somber che lle that Ma. Maxwell polite
13 tei tomber 1, sill eliztes ddestificd in lawsuit against his
16 Cormer riasd wed pedophile TaTTrey Tprlaic who hud rela
Terie
= 5 then Me. Marvell's commentary cirectly aitervarcs,
13 ina cieratio, "ign problem ir than Clisken une came fe ten
28 imlanan
2 Your menor, in plalitif'c response exsiie me
22 reply brie, they slain mo. Maxell fad ze kneeloder in carly
73 dmary, PE1E Ka 31 Cliskes Rad sever boos be bee ixlands
41 Slkunely, eis es knovleoge bi Liat becaier sie vee clalmes Lo
27 have been there with him asd claimed to have flown on a
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1 helicopter with idm by plelatiss do bes Shares Corcies
© peliseed armiclen.
3 Be bere, = Tarr of 200%, MeL Masel] x savicg be
1 vas never on the dalane. It doesn't depend on loile Freeh ox
I asybedy else. That's obviensly -- in this particular email,
© ymin coor Rein mataloned a1) of the sensed stories of
Tieyitie Toberle, all uo Lie Liss Vivisie Subesls hes Lobe,
© all of the diZZersct neve articles in videh these lies vere
3 hele, we raid ban WRiE in ceive te ba the bain of har press
1 complain i Le UX
1n Likmciew, un Lie deal page, yout Seivs, SHECH, al Lie
12 borrow, again, ste speeifioally refiees the elaime aber sill
13 Clinter being 0 Lee Gland avd save, We wan evar Lara.
11 Gagat aiter tat, sie saya, "Fglils slecicevs fiat AL Gure
17 and hie wife Tipper were alse guests en the leland." Ad
To Mel Wawel] wriler, "Tey Save alse sever baat on Lie island,
Ti end Teun'l believe Liey seen biow Jelitey Speleis.”
1 fo wien the ury ds asked to conalcer wat Me. Maxwell
13 meat wren cha insind, termi or atterey asd or proce
PE mend, Lia Taeary Se, 2005 slalemerl, ve tace 4
21 coatemporasecie document draited by her That vas produced in
22 disnevery a year ago. bese of iv refers te the daze Jee 152
73 complaich, seth aT ik rears Le Khe CURR Seitder mekion. Bown
£1 endl IU selec elmply Lo preee ellegativie List eve Leen
20 floating areund abost her and abost her involvement with
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1 Geiizey Spetedn sic Virginie Teberte.
7 PaimRiTes inne] Far said sratemeers made iv ten
3 newpaper arlicles are Serena. Tal in ote Lee, bl wer
4 400: Plalitifi'e statemest Ln a seve article, it's valle a
I party admission.
z PIAI=Ri=S mouplains than she Gideth Rae te
PT wpsbinily Lo vepuse Presisenl Glisten, Tos Suse,
: plaintifs's comnsel seight to depose President Clint: in their
3 reply Brie® an the and of die, 7515, abeut a weck batare
10 cinconery wan Lo close. Tray GiestL weet meslion iL + Lei
1 opeadg bebe, Liey sedews AL di sockel sabes 211.
i” In what roeiest, whieh | dien't have az oppertizity to
13 objeal Le besnen FL me in reply, she said se waelad Le
11 cepuse him to, establish fle close persunal zelativieaip with
13 spatesn®, she sald nothing abest wanting te see whether he had
16 bees on Lie inland, weliar ba Slew iva alicopler, or
Tr emplidng Like lial.
1 Bits rears to Luile Frees, joir fener, ve clecloses
13 Rima a wittrs in eer wide 77 disalerires lak Mares —
20 eee ma = Tebroary of 2016. PlaisLis wate vo «orl Lo Ley
21 to depose Lim, made no efort te find out hie basis of
22 kaeleder. we prodince in édseevery his report in whist he
23 submitted a TOI rsorh.
a Teetezeay, you will recall Me. MoSevley teetizying
27 abost hew she, herself, issued a $0la request asd got dn
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1 reepunes an TST SZ melivh wees me statement on sie
© lnime i mirernin, her ste dessin koe tow in was redacted,
4 ato evidence.
H we axe actially offtring to pit on the stad the
© penne wo submitted the COIn rRainnh be eNplaie wean wa
§ eesoeled and viel ves teveived, Thal ie ful saperl Lesbinviys
esr senor, that's chain of eistesy.
1 fuer, die telemsbivi vase ais I'm Gor Goling stom
12 Plaizeifss trearice that thoy sited threietest their respenin
11 seiencante can leo breve that otier Liable ais sore sbeit
17 tie slaimast are sivolatizg, at least iF tiey are widespread,
Ti plelsliil lial vases ter cepoleliv: Lo a iier bol vial olbers
1 ease
26 our pozilion, yor Tovar. Tere, we Fave 4 slalemecl by
20 sickingham Palace Uiat vas issued cn the Aiternet and widely
22 sireidated, riere is alse @ videotape of Prizee andres devise
1 clreddetes then sytodig Me, Memvell celts ee welosives by tie
27 Zast that plaintiff can't even Ziad Ma. Maxwell's statemest on
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1 tie dolesel spviene gotes bowels
7 Alan, Klas iersteeins widely niveslaned Sia denials af
3 pliTTe claims. Te wan on Good Mar iog Bmariar, bo wn on
1 OEE: Baney Grace Show, be vas on Fox bews. ALL of ticse
I places he salled virginia deherts a liar, asd a serial liar,
© ame steer teigr.
¥ Pe sw wabilled, gue Tunes, boli Liswsh vives
examination of plaintiiZ as well as cross examination of Ler
3 cnparts, fe ehallovge sRatber or ob anyerivg raid by
10 Me. Masel] cased camace Lo ber rep lalios or walter olrer
IL people vellicg cero lise ui seliviel deve eis bolesieliviel
12 zee dz, dn fact, fe Anzio of any damace fo hor repiraries.
iE See i re avn, oF course, wo bas pul var rep lation
11 at deeie. Eaviig tie Juke oS York ane Sickingian Palace less
17 denials ds not hearsay, your sozer, it is effered for the Zact
To Lal Lie desinl wes widely aire laled and ery likely
Ti corledbiled Lo people wossivering pleislii Lo be o Lie.
1 Metin dn Limise somber 6, platitizi's sexial history
13 and repirarion. Thin salisek pick, veir comer, of emcee,
20 again, der Axil, ix Lal once yo. Fave pol vo.r repbalior
21 zor being a liar dn gestion, then other apeeiilc instances of
22 false claims become Richly relovast and probative ef your
73 ebarachor Tor LedRTidears, parkieidarly with rosard bo sesal
A eseandt an cexial abies
tH furthermore, yosr sonor, plaistiff is the one vie's
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1 clelmicg sie nes demsges un puel Liamelic slices slevioes, sid
© stn in the ae whe in geitg te eal] te ton srad Ser
3 pve ialeinh Lo Lik bool Leal paliesl, asd sha bs Le oo
4 that gave him evidence abut These Stier acte to Aim and on
I which he has relied in reaching hs coselisiens. It is
© SmporsiRIe Tor in to coh be AKA fo Arann AxamieR Ser eepacr
bul preeaielicg PIED anses by dovivenls aid eveile seelales
© tome. Maxvell.
= Hokion he Vii Sine 7, SeABAR a oh We GE
10 can be calles 4 proslilole. Tor Toror, fo ore i Lis caze,
IL so cunienl, sobusy Lisl Thm avers ui dneeless wile Lie
12 lirigarion fas referred to virginia Gliffre as a slur. Tear in
TE moma inn Kal patel Te en ral Ban Brooch op, aed ven kil]
11 notice there de sbeolitely no vite dn any secors, dn any
17 comment referring to her as such.
1" Beal, van coms op, vour Teor, are itlarwel xiles iv
Tr wie Me. Giillte tes bees called all Rims of Liiigs Lil ate
1: cnrelates to Me. Marvell, that co not cite Me. Mawell, For
13 evmmpln, Far Triceds gave i-kervicss te ten prac i wnien tee
20 weseribas ane Lin ix allacned as wg TRIbIL TL describes
21 virginia Giuiize as "a mosey hungry sex Kitten ui snjoyed her
22 lavish lifestyle®, we sazzet talk about plaizedff's repitaties
23 on ken iehartah wiki alking abou wah in eu Kare on ben
41 fiterset. We carol cross examine Ger op cress examlie cer
27 experts about what Ger repitation is if ve can't ask abest
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1 thees bliss Lidige Lisl sre clrcleling abl fer Lisl have
© cortit te de wits we. navel)
4 3. meplin, and sayig tiat he agrees not te Zefer to Firgiiia
I acherts a; a prostitute, Yer aeIer, tht came Gp dn the
© oeten 0 a arens evamitarion i= whist no raid Sn tas <n iden
Po helies any bo bes cleine are visible os Gol. Te dese sob
believe it's within the province of the peyohiatrist to be
11 thal te hive wielier bee cleime oo beiig ® prostibile ate Leos
12 or cer trio, ace be agreed ner te talk shat.
11 Homer, are uitissses ox people Un tie literiet vio Lave mace
17 cisparagit remarks abeut the plaistiZf that ave to be the
Ti eye ate telaled Lo Me. Manvel,
1 Tlatntizite crip abies, notion in imine saber 2.
13 hay have coendnd, an they wirk, than phe period of time sheik
21 ofall of her illegal drug nee. And AT wasn't Just
22 presnripties rise, she Ea testified that oko was on a mmher
£1 urige, Ger memory os sveile Srem L500 ares Giebeliotes
20 Zogey. And she says that's one of the reasons she can't
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1 remeber Lie cemes oo Lie Surelgn preeloeile Liab eis ves
© traffinked no, avd three ever Samess preple, benvie son wns
Brgy Ar J Ta HR
1 Qeieiely, oir Honor, a ities! ability to perceive
I and recall and relate ovests that happesed a long time age that
© nen aTSrened by drag urn ceed te be Breige te igen bata
To Lie Jeers
: Tae second dseve, your Zeer, relates to the use of
3 prosariphios medication. Wak yo. Foard plaitkiTT say in ley
10 wool Tike Lo itLrot.ce weiterce Lal shat Labisg prescriplion
1 crise prupely, Lil Liey veil Lo esclise oe sion Gives
12 examizing hor ahest $Rar to see whether er nen ste was taking
13 prasariplios Groce improperly. Talis elles cross
1 ememinaticn, yeir fener.
1 ser use of prescription érigs has bees vell-dooamested
16 in var doclerts records, avd she vas mide “alse slalewels Lo
Ti her solute tegervisg ter teed fur peesceiplion dogs. Eels
1: gone Zrem ne Soctor te tie ext, telling ee that she hasn't
13 wakes amy Galism or year, ad has Kha mavk an me and Hee
20 we rave Lee records srowieg Ural Lalla ual col Lr.e. Geely
21 told doctors that she vas stressed ent abost a big litivaticn
22 in bew xerk, she told a fester that in the vear 2014, this
23 Vmwrsib went Tiled Ghil T515, se sls made shabomshs bo
1 doctors thet are Lnaccizate
tH eur menor, her statements reilected in her medical
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1 revere may ue mey ut be esmicelble Gepeicliy un ial she ceye
7 omen arash, Wit they ave her arancmeses até they ave,
4 opponent weer S016 2.
E Moreorer, her domter 4a the eat whe WASts te testify
Po Lie une vols Lables sbuul hed precives es un wesicelivie.
2 zer Colorado doctor teetified that che hac micles him azd not
1 Lie deus ans sage she's popeily sew mecivelivie sui
11 un prescripticn sie illegal crige.
5 26 yes sezer, | thizk it ds inappropriately limitizg
Ti peries ol UE Lo 2052 bevenss any Seog wae Lieb she hes sed
1 the meantime can go to establish vistier or ot sie trily hes
13 postetraimikic shross dizerénr or any skeen metal Fealts
a se as filed a laveuit asking for $30 millicn in
22 emotiomal distreas, pai ae sufferice, and her demtor i emit
£1 teat peti ane stress anc emobloiel clelzves. 1: eor'e bess
27 sedng drugs in the interim that may aZfect hex memory, if she's
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1 iebng crige how Lhel mey ailecl hes memory, ur Lo ete's
© imapprepriaely used frig i tee meactine, all of tean weld
3 Go lo walter or Sol me Lely ba Le owolionl dirLecs Lia
1 she claim.
E movies in Limise #, plaistiff's erimizal history. 12
£1 wmemeriad plaiehi TI argent, tony de on wath nr te be
eves eemiied wilies ces S20b) ue AEH) wilh sevess Lo a
specific instance of clshonesty; that de, her thelt from her
3 ceplover.
iE Tear are lagiots of carer, oor Toror, Leal Cite
IL Lieil Lo be a coime un Gleviesly end sumiselble Sof prose oo
12 aranter of distezesty.
iE Bol 6¥1y, your Teter, AI he cal shared by Lhe
11 astiuritiss Ln Florica vith tile crime of thet Zzom cer
17 employer, az arrest warrast vas issued Zor her, that arrest
6 warranl wan oulelandivg al Lie Lime she, doolef.tdoole, Clad Lo
Ti Trellen, Thal arcesl varcasl temeited uo lelaseisg lil Lie
Lf year, I tisk Z00E or 200¢, wien It was quashed. Pladntizz
13 Tailed te come back te thir aoitey diricn than atie nim.
PE Th gob auamred becuse iL ad bee s.r a long passage o Lime
a Ths COUNT Who wa: the employer?
2 MEL MRRIMGA IT was the deadhenst Grill, your
73 Feror. Thoms burger Joish. Red rhe wan werkite al tab
£1 Zuastoies Grill dn Merch vi E02 Gurlig tae perius oo me che
37 claims that she vas a sex slave. fhe claimed that aie vas a
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1 eek clave, Liab sie ves gelling pale weds oo vesn, Liviesiie ui
© dollars by antTrey speteit, avd this wns tappetig TAT. aed
Benne Tdi TR BE SR Bo ev
4 of her working at tie Seadiiee Grill, Bit alec of hex working
I at a busch of etic restasraits, at a vevcrizarias's office,
TAN) WinEr 0F shiver furinh ¥en period nf Rime tan Sin rave fe
Doves a wal de vumeeily hoow se @ ses slave, ds fw sie
described it in ex papers.
s Vor Conor, rhe compeinded the Tin beck Lhe Lah
10 bucaize she wrole a book mesireripl, ax yoo brow. Res in Leal
IL book meevedpl, sie sesviibes Liab dL wes Sub fer vio Louk Lie
12 mecey from the tip dar, it was fer hevEriesd, tony sires,
13 amd malts alr weal she LeskiTied Grieg her deposition
n She sain, ur exemple, That sie Glen't camidt tis
13 theft, that he came in at the exd of her shift, azé while she
6 wank looking, bats Le ove Leal Leak Lie Lipa.
1 Bell, ve ceposed Toiy Tigoetos, as Tory Tigietva,
12 yosr Rene migit be surprises to hear, le a gentleman with
13 rewnral Telomine to Ris same, whics Ra gladly renistad en the
20 wilress sland or viceolapa. Te Lathes bool all bre Lra’le ve
21 Gas committed, thefts from a video tere, he wa: charged with
22 Zelemies, ke vas pat en probation fer tex years, he resesely
73 had gobhos out, bik be actually desied Kak be ws Le on who
£1 took Lae mosey srom Lie Lip Jer.
tH fo there's the lie, there's the tip Jar thelt, then
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1 there's the Lie sbuil Lie Gp Jez Liesl, ens tien Lieze Ss tie
© arrest warren ean was issued tan plaiteitt let thn amine
3 tar aver a decade while Lak arrest, waerasl wi ould ing
1 Your Boor, the fact of police voitacts Curie this
I timeframe, including this cnc, go directly te other Lssucs,
To SeAlifine uarter or teh plaisHiTS uns brie tee see slave ten
she wesceibes. he hes an oppuslosilys bevese sie vellss Lie
© pulice on nmbers of eecasions curing the relevast time
3 period == ra called them ko report a KReTE, she called teem bo
TT relp wile 4 clei] ansizl Gelling ter ool of ber aparlmecl, she
11 Called Loew for all kiss ui fessvie a al fete uf lives
12 peizrs of time fi sto £1] thn police thar sho was mrestly
13 bean, sled saele, res slave
n Your Somer, tie Teacheite SELL ali ths Mall On
17 ewiday is the exe wie printed a story abeut the eadienss Grill
6 an aor rorled rar auk wo was bait iolerviorad Tor ove o
Ti Leer slories ebuol iL. Toe acil ves it Lie provess of saplsg
15 what a great niece sie has, ane ten tie neve asked Ger abit
13 ten seadteir Gril) ERATE, ad cha said, Mew, | dideth mee
20 brow Leal sve vax varkivg i= 4 burger Join." Go il goss Lo
21 ter fnterset repitatien.
22 an Sizally, yoar secer, 1 thizk if vow look bask te
23 kak omai) babwses our alioeh aed Me, orsRowibs on page (NEE,
1 Ue ume on tie Lee iat vir clisat epevicically zesezzes to,
37 fhe quotes Virginia Giuifre's statement, "eifrey hoight me
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1 feveliy, slemsice vers hie seville, ass venders Soridlize
© enw pavicg me very wrll beanie 1 give Sim ses whomever bn
BA RR Ror GUI, FRG, MV St pple er
1 sowell, wey steal from hex burger fob in 2002 So iti
I within ear oliest's kuoeleder on Jansary §, 250%, asd that ds
© an aeRiniomal renner why in SEeild be afmitked anice be Ser
leben miss ve avbeed malive, se pleiibios dikes Lo vall il.
: Your Zonor, vith respect to the schosl records, the
3 netoel recordn are shal fey are. They explaic bak she wer in
10 screed Goring Le wrlive Lime se claims Lol xe ves a ses
IL slave, SU gives ter Gombers ul Gaye ul sllsiasve, Tun’
12 undereané why these reords wnilén't be admitted in avers
13 cramivalien oF or an Le bor woraahe.ls al eerlais sacs iens
11 Platstizz certainly intends to litzecice TLigt loge te shew
17 that she was or vasa't in certain places, so scheel reserds
16 sew ware ave was av ass th on carlai daled, and alts
Ti imprlerl, ju.t Tosor.
1 Moreover, plaiitiiz la the oie Wo tels Sharon
13 ukirstar abot or ows problem wits sereel. hn told stare
20 Crircrar, and Graven Coreen poblizres wile var aolvori saliov
21 that she went back to school To vet her Gad, and she vaited to
22 svaey for massage, dhe talked ahost droppize ext ef snienl.
23 Palin roerds rotleck bo Sach beak she an a beak dari
1 thle perioe ui time, tial Ger mother ves vonceriss abuit her
37 abusing erie asd alochel. The school records intimately
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1 dilesesct elite tie eabice story taal pleiobiss fas tole aboot
© being a sew slave in the years 1555 te 7007
3 Hiro, vor Totor, Lier go Lo dames bec ra plaisiitt
1 has claimed that she shore be entitled to a certals amount of
I damages, asd her ows cxports have talked abest Sex brizg a
© hredhIed m1. again, © ir somernite Hear tey elf reir
Po pepidaleiv eapesl, ane be celisd on Simiog Luel she ves o
© trebles child, and then he's made inferences from there abet
3 why sha shed be arhinled ke certain damages, ad | ERETE Eee
10 screed records are a Tait came or cross ecamivalion of bin
1n Molds Ln Limite fonber 10, Ger bat collet
12 hekavier. again, your setor, thin in exactly == plaizeiff weze
TI ine me en pryesialeink, wel (5 Le nee bee asd oor
11 sncepeicet mesiial examiner, aie Ln Leth cases sie seacribes
13 all of ter, euotelunguote, bad ohildicod beaver, fo it gees
16 Lo ver damger, vour Toror. Tray wal Lo alicil wal Ley wel
Ti Lo elicil and keep os rom elicilizg asyluing Lial vole
1: contrasiet it.
1: Sit pibRing yor vopstatios asd your karastan i
PE mea, an sve bax in Lie cave, abool Lia Lime wre se wasn
21 chdld fe necessarily a Part of cur res: examizatien to explain
22 tna fury war her repstaties at the time of the asts i
a Si vee a Leienl, sepurtes Lo Lor ecioule ae o linet,
27 reported by her mother to the police, cizeilated with pesple in
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1 the vommcdly ob Lighoy Le Shc Ger, en she vas hoown se sah
© in er memiiny. an te say sowtew than we aas'n talk aber
Brees ar rE We a TR Ta Rea
1 the time she vas a Chile wien she claims that she was the
I viotim of sex abuse, ds Get supperted by the law.
z Maimhi=F Alen mites te cack om efamaies, avd |
believe Lie vile do 10, Section 2. Bow gues Hoses, T Ldsk
thls helps clarizy a let of what eur peeition ds in tile case.
s Sank belieues, an we do, bat in is eobively
10 appropriate cise AEB) Le Gusibion 4 plainLic! whe Fax
IL alleges vecamebive, vives sepilalive de a dese dbuil all
12 Rizr of had asta, They have said, Sur tee, that there is
13 just me rarer wo seelld bo allowed Le ask boul all Leese
1 otuer bac acta.
5 ack cites, your seter, to az aleventh Giremit ease,
16 ewer ve. Time, Tres Te Leal case, voor Totor, Sneb mae Lie
Tr Bleverls Clreoil foo Lie sisleicl cooel fad beet vorcecl whe:
134 rules that the ceZensant, wideh allegedly accused tie
13 plaithiT of being a traitor, Yeeild be permed te mackie
PE Le plainLitt ubol a “alony conviclio, a posible violalion
21 ef tie exhaequent parole, convictics for driving wider the
22 gafluecer, an arrest Ser writizg a had creek, failure te file
73 ka robires, Tailire bo pay alimony avd aild soppork, asd
£1 welsenoe comming plelilics'e wiiuite Lo change Le name ai
20 somial security mamber.® In other words, coe you pat your
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1 Eepitetion at desime all oi thers apelilc dietaiees guliy to
1 les tax setize, fhe salts "We. Tax fra a net a private
© matcer, as platstiff sosrenis, it ir a erin. it is a orinc of
LRT —
: Sie Sibel debs bee vomplatil Liat bes
: xepstetion ves injured in her professicnel capacity ss
10 Wrekin Rw Strona, Frets TI br:
31 Fe twesies Gal Ling hes sl mel Links Lex wbligativie sis Loy
nif dnon Bells ‘Wit Bow aermesson Kowsy Yooatliherk
n TULL aay, fovever, that buts uf these desims,
15 failure to Sie tax retin: snd tax fad, are cxastly the
Tt allen bo elebbish Lin Leal vi gece stall tial
1 plantas: ds a Mar
GAVE TT FR A a
A300 millics i pads, suffering, and emotical dhstress.
2 blaimeiSEs expert, oe climes, testified tia domestis
£1 cer TEED. Te lew testicies St ves & very vholeit splevse sis
3 mere likely happeted more than coe. se alse testified that
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1 ce deste swsiticiel mezitel ait sekeal vuseellig base wi bez
Tinie VE, Wie SN ATateE $5 Avie bo YER
1 oir expert, joir senor, Likewise ound that tie Sar
I more likely ease of any dyeZssstien in her marriage which
© armen at tee nine of thn demestin vinleean (maiden and wan
meee Likely Lie vane un any PIED pein, seoomsiig, ve emoliviel
© distress that she vas experisieiig.
s Wat domestic wielanan imaidant, Sapper i arly
10 Maren, S015 a ciple of merle aller Lie allegedly de emery
1 slalemest, ans seven musts beiote plaiilic brugal Laie
17 dawn.
iE Mees arimial procoadivgn agaiel er vubard alse are
11 relevait te er camsges, apart Srom D2. Slimane testimony.
13 mer tmshand was ordered to live away frem thelr home, leaving
16 rar ko are “or ver Lire onildrer alone. Ta Lian slope
Ti perlicipalisg in Lie cotl severed domestic vivlesce
1: comsslizge ase be cles the country wit an active arrest
13 warrath bean remains eutekasdicg to tein Gate Tro Celerade.
ET RIV 0° Less allar-alive so.rces of ewolioral dislress
21 zor plaintizf should be admitted, a: her expert, Jr. sliman,
22 han testified, in as far as they impact supposed Past,
73 mattericg, lens aT eiovmerh of 11%.
a Mobius do Lmice combs 15, any Leelimosy tial cox
20 with a 17-year-old girl is, guote/mgiote, lawsil. rlaiseiss
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1 de the ue vio claims sie fas ask wilh vazivie people at
© warieis planes an varies vines, some whee she was 17, sow
BGR anE un VHS SVE, A IARI, es 1
1 siglase, some in Few Yurk, seme in Few Mexico. In all uf these
I cases, execpt rlerida, tho age of cexsext ds 17.
H | fete keen wan vidnean plATSEITS 2 anit be
To islestice abuol viel sea ste hed, oss, wilh whom, en ber age
© at tiat time because those sands have shifted dramatically
3 during the couse of this Vikigation, E11 aan say, ver
10 Torer, ix, 17 ave Leies Lo inLrod.ce eeitesce Liab sre mad ses
IL ele certain place ene Lime ai claims Lael 1 ves devo od,
12 wer senor will he fury hosnd ta dsorrier a dary en war is or
TE Geer let ea pariielae |oeisdiation al 4 pabic dae Line
11 ane pasticiler place.
5 tour seer, | vealé submit that movies in limize 16
16 reserdivg Lie medical records, agit, ix somaliitg Leal deperis
Ti ceamelically vr wal plaisliil isleodces coring fee cese ©
15 chien, bit there are many statements, as 1 mentices wazliez,
13 to tar doctors wriat weild be admitted an cecbearsay §7 atoerd
PE agaival ver ax parly atwizzion.
2 Tiere are many statements over the last 1 jeazs that
22 relate te ter mextal senéitien, that relate to er medisatiens.
23 “a 1 articipate arkicg about Far Terrk bitel 1 de cok. To |
£1 seblclpete echicy ebunt Lis elie bilige Lisl sie lites bo bez
37 metic in limize: | do net. Sut I co believe that there are a
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1 nimber ui Cmes hal abe sav Goclose, meds stalemate, suighl
7 treamaer, gor medicarinss, a1 of whist are rafleared i= er
3 medi) records an are sowskeing Ll abo Lwin rhe may be
1 cross examises.
E sc claims her medical records are private. she is
© ten een reekicg G30 willie i monineal dishes, paie an
To eeiieelig, ead 1 Lhisk when yuo wo Liebe Tw sete be levers
: acvised her that her privacy rights with respect te Ler medical
3 rocards weil so lorger ba be sams as a privake Psividal.
1 Tour Toor, Moliot ix limite Ti, agaiv, Lre dollar
11 value ul Lie Jane Dov selllsmest sepesds silizely ui wel
12 happens in terms ef plain maze in Riet and worker any
13 oleae avidenes regardieg Lee dave Jen 167 1ikigakio comes iol
11 evicence, bevaiés AZ AU Goss, tien toe settlement ase tie
17 settlemest ameiit may very well become relevast, hut 1 maz't
6 ay righL vow bow weve ihands Lo Le Leak al Leiel, wy il
Ti ood be telecerl, ane T can'l say wreliee of fol Lie
1: aettlemect amoint voile Likewise be relevast.
1: Motion i Timitn 15, fn Gare) l-sdun rien errtoui ne
28 NiLigabion ane Lreir selliomarl. TLUs isbaraslicg Lo vole
21 mr. cassell te refer to himself in the third peracn wien he va:
22 ralking aber thar litigaties,
a Voir Tovar, Keora arn a camber == 1 a aah Tie
1 reacone, at least, tiat tial vase le zelevast to tie fects bo
3 this case.
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fi PLaietiss ves « vitiese dn tat Gass. She ves depose
A roca p———
1 testimesy in that case is aatssible.
H she participated in that case, yer senor, from March
FET SPR J J
¥ she smpuilo Ly bs otids inl SL vas varaiog bes 2
: eigmificast amos of stress. In fact, shortly before she vas
n Be. Miller, wi payetiateiel, fess Lil es
11 epmtems, acs ie sale tat they vers saverbatec by fer
15 participaties fx that livigatios,
31 cupilebiunel semees Spats gees Tones Toeine bo Un
1: Zecral svicencs trestise zelies on by plaistiif. In
I uidespresd, te comnatrate St 4s Gof hat the defendant sald
52 shot rh pIASHESS her cried or pepstanion te siffor hie
a our Forex tae teat lie VEZ pleacizger Malitiiite
31 experts fave pelled off the dzterset all kinds of stories that
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1 relate Lo plelitios sis sels Liab Lives slusles are selosice oo
7 ber damaced vepiranies. whe yo look an rhe arorics thar
BAIT erp Gar Fe Treat; ARR Sa ot
1 them relate to the Cassell Sovards Jerstowits litigation; wat
I tappescd in the litigatien, statemests made hy the parties in
© ten Vitinakies, statemeste made about Sirgisia G1aTTn rales
TL Liab Litigaliv,
: 12 her repitaticn ie damage by sme other litigation
3 teak var cekien te do with Hr Mawel], Me. Masel] ath be
10 resporible Tor Lal replalioral camace
1n THD COURT: Maal's your waplanalivi ui Lie cemete
12 aimed to GHuSIEe hy the orsteeits casei
iE WoL WIEKTEGTR: Thm sereyi
n THE COURT 1 incerstans the testimuiy part. Teat's a
17 different kind of thing, ut the case itself, how docs that
16 mee rer repolaliont
1 MEL MIETGIR: TU': Lie press allescest Lo Lial case,
1 your mene.
1: Wo Gat kav. ie te press atbesiach.
ET Mi. WEETHGTR: Tears was 4 lok oF pris allevcari. Lo
21 that case which vas, fraskly, hevative to the plaiitiil that
22 had methine de with Mo. Maxwell's denial. An their cuperts
73 have eelicd er Keak prov asd alaimed Lat Leah prec romkos
41 cippurte Lisls claim sur semegee sveliel Me. Maxell, even
37 theigh she's net mentioned in the particular stories.
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1 TIT COURT: Bit ow de hal golig Le Slyure dito
3 M3. WERTHGTR: Your Torer, TLRis¥ Lhe Jory we ld bo
1 dmetrictes here not to held Me. Marvell zespereible Zor ay
I arm to plaintiff's repvavies caused by third partis ox
© Alterman seinen, SsAlifing stories than wer eerabed by
Po lelemenle mess by bes wen counsel, Ly Blan Jeseievile, by
© Prine andrew, by anyeme eles.
s COURT WaT], yer. ek whan Thm brvicg de Tigire
IT oil wal boll Leal cere wan camagicg Lo Gi rel
1n MEL MEEKINGER: 1 van’ Leld yun Lisl, yuo usck.
17 itt anally plaiteiti whe ave ackitg for S13 millies in
13 ropilalineal cleap ceri, avd wees yo. ark Liem wal
11 repitatical cleanip costs are jou trplay to elean ip tie
17 point te stories having to de with the Jershewitz litigaties,
6 Trey say ver repolalion was damages by Lol LiLigulion a by
Tr Lie stories teleled Lo il, ane Liey val Lo post all of Lise
1: stories coun on the internet searches. bot stories tist relate
13 te MeL Mevenll, stories than relate te bar likiganion wits —-
28 rer laarts Vilicalion wile Klee Jersrouil
2 Ths cous Okay
2 Mi. MRIMGA 1 éen't Rizk that evidezes sheild
23 come i= beaaien | doth Kok ERY bared on seineas, bik |
1 realize that's sot zor tucer.
EH Likewise, your soser, ber failure to sue Alan
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1 Bemshunite altiuigh e's puis un ald bi tises ulier stwe si
4 Finally, yeix sick, tiers ds, a gos beard fre
3 mr. cassell, talking abost fassell lawssit, a stavemcst iseied
tT made sepeessilelivie, Liey it su veils Liey veie opresssliog
: platstif, Tis vas vidle Mr. Cassell asd Me. Sivards vere
0 Bn Uni cs Sey aaah el Ue Sarin eal wre
Http i Cedi apes puis Sees ate
11d ger Sener, LafstiSI veils Like to mks a Lt of sgimsts
12 mow she's already litigated these pests, fhe lest, she's
Tr secioaly wislestiog ge Tue be sini Loe Jukes melds
1 and net dnferm the Jury thet a Jucge Zoims thet the allsgaticn
EBA A A a El
I net bess deposed. She as 8 Glselesed uithess, Toy add
2 mets ser nine te be witsers. well, we'll see. vos sone,
Te set wn eppropiets motius dn Lintie. I Kuen wat toe
57 rides of evidence are with verard to hearsay and dochle
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1 testesy.
7 Hants alan trie, yeir eter, largely with respect to
A opirien xem tide Cort alent thlige That may or may ot
3 tappes. we: amor, | 33t den't see the Seed to waste more
© time oe in
i Tete is uid vie ieee, Lie ute cadet in 2 were ve
have presented tie possibility tiat as the party that bears the
3 burden 0 proot, we nila bo alloeed firing elosicg anges,
1 closing esgmits
i” 1# hey ase eperel over a party até tat party
1 ctinstances sie ith tie 2ivit Seiiaticn, ask for a misediy
17 witness instricties, yest seser, hat these are all advisery
I ME. MCCRRISY: Toor Tutor, Slgeid McCauley os benall
15 or the plaintiff. Geils the Cost dike to take a break at tile
13 peinhi 1 ees wntun noe Tor a empl Sein. tm sok sire Fw
0 yout Vibe Lo process. Uatra happy Lo address —-
a rn cou bets Zanih,
2 Mi BeGaMLGYD Lee's finish. Okay, great. hack ves
a me sie
a ie defense started with an overview of Jule 453 1hi,
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Leu del meet sespuie Lo Liab besides
7 Wey reteresen wind ler ad 4irkpanrink, 4 treatise
Bul ws Ley be vary isle clive of Lis partic tae pois
1 Misller and irkpatzick saye, "It i: trie tat in a
I defamation case there ds more latitide vo introducing
© eepitaniseal types of reidnsan. -owrwnr, (E'S importash fo
© cemenbes, say Moellee ans Tichpeleich, Lieb aclial viesavles is
© net so mech the guestion as repstation.”
s fe ih Tollogs that Mrpeai Ti instareon oF misaasdie
TT cariol be proved ©° Ling were tol erarally brow baca.ze Lies
1 lhey woods sb ssiect septation”
1” They Go en to say that, "Een a defeodaels rend gens
13 to spent Tie inlaraes dar ATED, callien Crom Le |g i
11 sn ovzeer. Droviiy mlebenavicr van, dn siiect, Lecons a game of
17 character assassinaticn that adds insult te dry whieh courts
6 ca block by cure’ ly considering relevasey nse an Lie
Ti rode ageinel nial prelice Coon ks Rode 2057 Raeoso dL ds
12 agaiet that backezop that te Cosrt sieils be consicerisg
13 thane 455 rier.
ET Beal Twols Five Lo do iz 0 ar Lres i lalrabions
21 of what 1 think de godsg to be a pervasive Zlav in many of the
22 arguments advazoed hy thr defense.
a Gown Foard Krab, "eur Coor, look weder ATEBY. Men
£1 ect Lieb tor mebier pleditiii's molies ceeciibes fer se o
27 liar about uedng drags and runing avay Srem Lome, that comes
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1 hn te stow repitativi.® Del me explain vig 1 belieos tial
7 argmenr in Sidamesrally Slowed, and thar will, of emirae,
3 nee oor Lo elves 111 slrations, a well
1 Tie statement to whlch Sefence voinsel vas referrise
I was a statemest that Me. GinZfrc's mother made during a
© Aeperinins ar a witerer i= #Rir mane where tee oly peopl in
Lie coum were Lie vonsl cepurles si Lie ablusiers. Te acl
that wien asked, "Wat Gid you thick of your dasgiter 17 yeare
3 agel BRTL, 1 hough ak the Lime Lal she war a Tian, t weet
10 somelring Liab coms Lo Meo Gio rats rep Lalion bacalse Listes
1 no erie angbusy hier abul dL olies Lies, yun have, Lie
17 meter wre in mee heise depese iT S016.
iE Morsouer, Lee m.asbios wiz, "al did ve. Lik abo
11 the Zact tat yoix teen 17 year ule Shido ves Funadig avay Trem
13 scicel: well, I tacnght she was lying te me abest that.' Fat
16 weld go, T guar, Lo ber repulalios buch in, weal, 199, 7555,
Ti ZECL, Lial Lime period, bol of voces Lie damages Lial ace al
15 desis in tile case are camaes arosic Sle ane taereaboits wien
13 ten enfamsory ctatemeet in released.
» Go ita ard Lo see ever a argmerl Cor Lee slalom
21 ef the mom in a depesiticn geing to zeputaticn. 1 den't know,
22 mavhe 1'm missize semctiizg, mavhe there's seme marginal
23 relearn Keak ane be Giskilled ei of all of Kah. vik oF
1 izes tues guar Tenor tes tu weln viatever margiiel vali
27 that hes as to reputational issues againat the very signifisat
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1 prelasiclal sizects
7 Shims, Rin in Gait to be aensidered by the Say
3 Le rink avats d bud Kid, Treytre ol going La live
4 Me. Giuiize, ane they're ging to Geld At agatnet her, not
I booasse it Gas some teokaical Fopitational aspect to it, but
© bemmien i in semennitg teat sews shale a bad porsen. Leder
TALE Lhe eeideice shold be sacle,
: Let me give you a second Allistratics of reputational
3 poitte. ey ray, Reba, leok. Me. GETTre week to
10 Time, ai T believe your Toor relerred Lo Lal as well
IL Ret goo Duwr asked, T Ledik, a very gous Govelivn, si lel me
12 ee if 1 ean aceeer phar eestien.
1” Vou mais, WIT, why G18 se dinclose a1] Kin sl"
11 te dr. Siimanit Weld, tie aver le cbiloia, she vas index
17 smstricties from tic doster to tell cvcrytiing that happened.
1 un of corns she Lol, Lo Lhe bask of ver abilily, everyliivg
Ti Lal teppered. fume of Lie sil ds golig Lo Ls oll ine
1: comet of law to be relevat, some of thls stiff dn a court ef
13 Taw ir gait fn irs enh fe be freolevath. win table cen thn
76 paverialrizits Job Lo say, ‘Fo, “a, a, do='l Lal bol
21 illegal drug nee becaise the prejudicial eifeet cutveighs the
20 probative value," he dust getsia fll medioal histers. and
23 ravig aelleaked all bab is Cermikion, vou knew, Eroih
£1 Dr. limes, ur teey elec nave 3z. Miller wie dic @ elmilar curt
20 of thing. tow oace yeu have all of this vast array of
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1 dniummelive, Lien Lie levyese preseal ssgomeite Lo yuor Sonos
3 report arent relevisl Lo Lia Gane and, 4 Cac, are going Lo
4 be Gigely predueielal Zor the Jury! That's wy we're here
I thls morning acking for some of these thizes to be exelided.
H for meawple, tRnre ave some vSnreeans —= | wnsit
Po belebur Lie puisl Lub Lie ceoecsioes bial ve'ee mekicg Lo
some of the illegal rig usage asc so forth, that's net
3 remetrivg wntre trying be deploy aTTirmatively. Whe goed
10 doctor simply Hisles all of Lie i= ormalion Lil bac buat
IL reviled se pact on ide sepurl su Lael Lie levers end Lie Jose
12 az zoe make a fetermizarion.
iE Be Le Tach Weal Me. GILT Leld Te. Dimas in a
11 conilcentisl pejchiatzic examliation certaln tilige abust ery
13 use can't possibly ge te her reputatics besause fe ont vas
6 rare wo was assessivg wal bivds of brits wighl be going or.
1 Bosimilar poitl ver be mace abo.l Lex ira Me'ze
1: tole, "Well, yeir Honor, tax frais goes to her repitativa.® 1
13 rippers Keak ons to Rar repikatios wikh coms Ixs agent whe ir
26 ooking alu rele, bil iL cantl poxzibly go Lo 4 geraral
21 repuvatics that is at desue in this case
22 an ecoc again, the muses tat wo mite in eur briefs 1
73 eK make Kis posh cloar, Where ina wash risk of
1 predusicial eiiect to Me. Giiiize becanes toe lazy de golig to
27 thizk, eho she's a tax cheat, asd they're gedzg to hold that
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1 agaliel ber becaise tiey won't Like ber sctitie Ln Lael
© partimilar sivemstaten an eppesed te the merits of thn mane
5 Be by Le wav, wa aes Going Lo slrotly corlart Lia
1 she's a tax cheat, do your Senor ia codng to have, 1 guess,
I competing tax information, and Jury dmstractiens en whether
© prrmesal imu enires Rave th he eeperted se yi rewire, all
Ten widen de veisy Lo eeleel Lie Joeg's Lime and allestive, fol
© to mention the Court's aid vomisel's, away from the fundamental
3 imria af did Me. Mawel] doTams MeL GELTRR. Go babies eur
10 raspotze Lo Lie i+iLinl overvies recarcicg A05, ase Tw going
1 to Luss Lie Lime veer Lu my collesgie Sov bo shee Lalo sume
17 opesitine.
iE Mi. MECHRIST: Trak yo, your Teter. Tim goith Ley
11 to keep tals very bries ac Juet tench uh sume of the
17 highlights guickly,
1" So we vera Lalbisg iniLinlly al Lie bagiee ig abo.l.
Ti Lie dese of catives pieces of Gilleterl wiliesses, velier
1: thelr internation veils come dn, ans ve GAC en the dave
13 trey Breit ap the fren of Me. rast, and aatially ga
PE ya. —- Laks ve. Leal ve was going Lo bi oak somebesy who wa
21 gedny to ait on the stand and validate the $OIA Zepenie.
2 Well, very elear from the domments they've prodiscd
23 ie ARie amen, B71 anild Rand Wham up, vein Fever, Kir in ben
41 pages taal lie prosices wilh respect to Mr. Treen. Bag juo'il
27 see on the first page, Ge gives his conclusion asd he says,
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1 "Based un my skperisioe, kivleoge, si dotiee uo lisse
© pretessls it ree Las preteenive erails ef spesial Agnens,
3 company orcerlivg We. €1itlenn <= sa bo ia ralvicg on His
1 expertise a: a omer FBI head Ln créer to opite on Whether ox
I sot these $oonrds ac COIGST, FONE ACSOI.
z Wey Biseloned Rim anon lay witeene i= Kei ence, coh
Tat ae an eaperl viliese. Me weil Litu.gh @ seties oyun
© knew your Homer, you've seen all the expert cepeaitics in this
3 cane whan weton Fad. Whey sav, Well, yoo eeild Rave deposed
10 vimana lay wilenst
1n Tou Huon, will remember, ve vers very Linilec. fe
17 were limited to te depos. we Sad to bea, herees, at seeal to
TI cela Tee were, and we bad Ls be wary maraTi 1 wee wa ples
11 ane chose WIth respect to etablichliy wir clang, If ve has
17 hue, of course, that Mp, frech vas ening to be pat on the
V6 led an an aoperls in Lin case, we, 0 co.rue, woold have
Tr sougnl the cepusilivs Liro.gn Lie expel process.
1 fo, yeux Homer, 1 talk those cocimets speak Zor
13 tremenlunr. Teoy'ee very elaar, Rants OIE, wears bate
28 givicg Leal cles apiion Tre teller is aeel Lo
20 mr, Oesehovitz and he sigue iT, and then it has the relevant
22 avtastmests. dn, your seser, we fimly believe that that
73 rhoild be Repl out 0 cvidatan buaaire bo wan wok dizelonod
41 properly se en wipeil dn lide veer.
tH foe ether thing | vant fo peiit your attention to is
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1 smother covimet lial hey ave June sit 1 Lilak tide covamest
in veally vellizg Tor whan in dessin say, and teants the endl
1 Fight after a Se cage after sie makes tie
3 defamaters statement, she's conversize with Ala Jrrshowitz
i Rial's seably dibesmabisg sbuel Lids is swiss io
: thie statement cose she say, 'l GAGH'T participate in tide
1 iL appa wile TRY Tealead, sve picks slalewsls a0 sag
1 leis Like widen seis Like o Jeeloie gitlizies sie
17 nave, 1 eallee destroy and eld Sim ote Salles madly in lawn,
I1 Have a aioe Lie" ans Rig Gh Gh Be." RSG she Pte di paren
IF te Mr. Jershewits, "M6 she wast Jeffrey to say ne, den't do
Cleaely, ste booes while eric ter veposilivs she
1 cladmed to set recollect ny clisit vistsosver, sie clearly
15 bow or and Ei chews ban they enn togetor
20 because she's pitting dn pazene inéivicials, other people tiat
22 my eliest was lent out te thar they foreet te meatien in the
£1 sevameal le west IU corer’ cays but AU clearly sive sie kis
3 my olient, she kiew Wat was cecurritg, ad she's simply tryitg
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1 to pick spazt nisives dn tie elatemsal. Zu, yeiz Homer, 1
7 sebmin rear te you Sor war Ir donssin say Trem we. meesl]
3 ives broytes provided Leal be ve. Lady
1 Taere aze a Sew more tilts That I Juet vant to teieh
I ox that I thizk secd to bo elarificd, asd that is, with respeot
© te o= ther war thin weenie abet -respaper arkieles, até an
To gen howe ve'er sobmilled an sapeil vio salyoes License web
: aalytice, he's the same expert that vas in the Andere case vio
3 Tollewed tak vides of kha Tor reporhar ever the itareel aed
10 bewchus Leal be Cand 4 wel I-acompline meliodatogy. Tatu ul
1 lial forth all in vir papers.
1” wit br tracked the spemifie Gioted statemests, your
13 Temer. er iT bray Rave an ines, 07 Leap wal bo sav, ov,
11 they're prepeelip tossy that tiees articles relates to tie
12 Dershowitz matter, that's subject fer cress examizaticn of him
TET Ley marl, bul be bun a cary clear meliodology, nu Lose
Ti erlicles Lial be Leackes vere in Lial meter, yoot Tuto, so 1
15 Jiet want to make thst pelt lice tiey Zalses it. 1 knew
13 unten men diiening the experts i= Aatail teday, Bit | Ei ark
28 ral ueslion
a fo your senor, in Juet summarizing en these podite, 1
22 wmizk we made oloar in eur epenize aremest why we holicve that
23 Kein sFesldnth be sibicah te a umber of mini heigls on a
1 variety of these lessee, we're toplig to slzeamliie tide
27 matter, and that's wiy ve proposed this motion ia limise te jos
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1 dn tie vay Liat ve sie
7 I'm dunn going ta len my nimnel addres any Smal
1 ME. SCHULTZ: Your Borex, © con't have anything
I further te say on motion in linine mambor §. The defondast has
© moh gives amy valid rears or uni Timanien for i-teedimicg any
viene un prive seal assandl Lisl shonle be sacle or
© all the reasons in the brief and the eral argument cer these
1 Dil regard Lo droge, Liars are col mito. wetical
1 records pressiles bere. Deieicanl's cosiesd hes stout Lp ai
12 aid shore are false statements ta doctors asd have suested
13 beak MeL Gira is seater cropping. TH submit eal bee
11 revere co set reilect tat,
5 Jefesdast apparently seeks to introduce a dotved dows
16 ala rere or Lrare rom medical records, bul Lesa are plait
Ti beersey, ane a seslesce Cragmenl if Lie miele ol o medical
1: chart 1s not asmlssible evitence, it's hearsay. Rie tien
13 trayire eerkai=1v con a party admission, Hoey dont nuns
28 releeh Lie Lolalily of wal Lie conversalion ix blues:
21 patient and doctor,
2 alse, 1 wnsld alos submit that the preseripion
73 reenrdn show Leak Key are sel doctor soppite be wins
1 amoite of pille ur mecivative, Toe preccriplivi zecorse epeek
27 Zor themselves. You can cwist the namber of pills that vers
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1 prescribes over o perdu ui Lime, sic juatll sdesetasd Leet
© thin in on a situanies of someone heitg a dries and denter
3 cropping, someting Lakin in Una sews @ lob Wasa dave. Bo
4 trping to SUMAT LT that vay fe net caly Arrelevait to tits
I case, hat the predudice ereatly citweichs whatever probative
© wmlin ih omigen Be. Me. 59ST wnild met, of aeieen, shiner te
To Leslioyitg wilh severe Lo whal cozzesl mecicaliv ste Lakes,
© but that's a different eublect altogether.
s Qiks regard to arimisel History, an 1 mentioned,
1 Me. GEUIrw die ral dw skola La warey. Se ai rar
IL bugisdess Look Lie mie while de ves Livew wile fer, Bas
12 defence oninac] remiséed Geart that rhis victim in a rhief.
13 Rgain, seen oT Aris i-Cormikios comes in Leder Le Tedaral
11 Giles of Svicence. Seen bie Glargiig Covet ass tie variant
17 are classic hearsay and should be excluded.
1" Ril regard Lo Lea mel ave, Tw going Lo kip avead
Ti Lo scroul tecoris, Tre records vost stor Lal she ves i
1: achoul, as mich as CeZencant seems to thick she de. They Sent
13 tavn alee wan dave she akeednd and what dave cha denstin. In
20 owsnth say ral sve was Lara on, or esawple, Map Zire, 700
21 what they do show ie that there ave fo conzees taken betveen
22 139% and the 2000 anieel year, and mn aeurses takes daring the
73 7630 ke FEE) seoel years.
a He. Giiiies's allempt Lo sock aie sees scioul at
20 asether school as as a testh grader in the 2001 to 2332 schocd
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1 gear ves Limiter toe purtive on Lie evioul year stesticg
7 bemeher Tok, TORI, ending ely fn Maret Ten, 7007, erie ely
3 turer sibslacbiskes Me GELrats Leskimony hal al. ona pote
1 she attempted to get avay Tro celencant's abuse, alosg with
I and mr. riguerea testificd te the samc.
H cn amie, | weld Alen veitarate Hear See repihanics
Pee uiile cue belie Leeanl ve @ soievay de dol veel de al
issue dn thle case. fhe de a IO scmethlig year old vemas and
3 did non have a ropitabion related te har sero] atbasdaen
iE Trare in aluo i Ubi oa oar videos of Far
IL nel fur peosdl belies Lax cre TUMe Gol oses ens dle dn
17 cempliaten with brited rates tax rides.
iE BART Ty, MeL GELTTRe Ran prod eed vol mes 6”
11 papers ur tax retirie Zils wits tie Ristrallan goversmest, tie
12 country were she has predominantly resided sizoe sie was 1s
16 yess olds Red Lnults all Tw ceive Lo say Cor Lil, Lo beep
TEL bedel.
1 ML CREEZLL: Your Sener, I'm Jit guing to ascress
13 AN) af the peishe tian —= 11 Sint take wary The misites Fer,
JE wile your permission
2 £0 en pedst nimber 7 that | addressed, the lesie of
22 slut, it seems like we're in agreement that that shesld he a
a Tae cebate vee veer Lie Lem "proslitite’. Beals, 32.
20 aeplin, their own expert, you can see in the 702 motions, be
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1 Conchita that vas. ss Sdppeopriets wre.
: ET.
4 then Stile be 42 that cocimest Ls in evidence sid toe ee
3 of thar word ds appropriate asd admissible and relevast, we're
© on saving than than ban te bn redanked. wih ten ae1y ovampin
tT Lbey vave ds Lisca's sume umnesle Ii sume dilesiel el suum
: someviers, we're sot sure exactly Sov they're goin to
0 ren Wg a sb Wale AO We
He vet ask hak swienes wusirel be distioetes sw Lids
12 eitzesnes bo dnseristed, on te ne that term smless it appears
n Ath ragare to ftem 1, tale le tie cemsstic vileice
12 seme, med vay saz. dock, it Sas relevaser heowsse it shou
we us puskliv is primarily bese os Rude KL Pe
1: cuseeces, 1 thick, that tisre's some srgiable chads of
TH nl SE A I SR VR YR
I Mae, 2515, sid the Statemsit at Leste iat cased the
22 worlavier repitatiozal damages was lusseied fn dassary of 2017.
£1 qimetion yuiz Serer hee tur uf cusses, sort wit de tie
7 pedudicial effect. Eiere vasa't any response that | Gear
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1 Crum cesses coiiesl sbuil @ blame lie cictim misdest tial tie
7 fury endl wry wel] adepr een hey Beard than Me. Gf:erets
BATE ter Sate WEIN a GORE IRI
1 your senor hae dn rest of 46, 1 think, essentially Gncustested
I evidezor, of at least uneontestod argamest of substantial
© presudinial ation tran will evict wean nips desisively in
Paver un eachosioy Lids, parlivedecly wien Ley gel Lo sibiedls
like crimizal proceeciige. We're pein to then get into what
3 in tha seope 0 tho protective ardor 7 they Vive i Australis
10 ar Wig Vibe Lake Thala Car albald Crom any mek on
1 emoliviel distress Comsges.
i” Item 17 fas te én the 1T-year-alé, 1o-yar-old,
13 Maeyerr-ali. 1 URieE we have groom Crem bole siden Leal
11 sex wath a 17 pear ole de Gdaviil Gicer tie age OF conesit
17 statute that exists in rlorida, asé we'll be asking cither to
16 cover Leal rough an esparl. wileess or Lrougt a Jury
Tr meleoclion, Bil Liey saz, oh, wel 1 ate's Slows Lo Few
1: Mexico! Tie age of consent there might be clfferet. Aue thls
13 in ware | Belinun voir comer as take a elon Took ab tee
20 spark wileess on se Lea’ iabivg, Lee 107 moliow ix coreanlly
20 pending dn Zrent of you, Prefesscr Terry Conan, wie 1a at tie
22 rleride state Trafficking lzsrivite, ane we've offered him as
73 a evperh witeere.
a To yun teks o 17 year ole Srum Tlurice, Sly ser bu tes
37 Mexico Zor sex:al pirpeses, it makes no difference WEAt the age
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Lun cunesl Le ab lial pull beveise joo have a Secerel sex
© traffiskicg avine than tar hens commithed
3 Tre same Live in Leis 17 you Tly a Viepeseeold isle
1 Bescon, or 42 you Sly her inte Vew York. ALL of those are sex
I trafficking crimes, asd PEoftiser Gena: is prepared to explain
© Bors tea parimilar aepest, | wild dneanibe if an a mie
To geeabiun uo sacl ane daw, and aleu sume on Lie peptolugival
: tecirigies that ave used to create the 1 think be refers to
3 trom ar tee ieeisible araice of soc teat Tickers
iE fv wile Pave 0 erie i lorie, beso wats
LL ser Lie age un coneeil, i ve hares ceseed up, dn eld
12 likelizend, state trafficking affecoe iF shots flaw to azerior
LER
n Raden rears to item lf, tie Cassell ad Sovaree
17 litigatien, I thick your seer asked some excellent gicstiens
Hon Lak.
= Be vere Lule Lial Liste ate five teesvie vig
1: Me. Giuizre's comiectiu to that vase Ges some relevance. Tie
13 Tiron argent, | ginns, if Eee streteech arpimest, wan than,
PE well, ave vas a wileess i+ bral cise. Tale of co.ree, Leal was
21 a confidential depesition, so it cenlén't have anything te Go
22 wits reputational damages or something rlse.
a Not. me be aloar, Meo G07 made shabowsks was ohn
£1 ves seposes, sie 4s Ley sey, eh hen, you've eels X irom Lie
37 witness stad, bit last year when yoo vere deposed you said et
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1%, cals sien, cross exami fer bunt AL, Lioseletent
7 statemesr. we've “on shicerisg tn wRan sspeer of than.
3 ral, ve dont sal i Le Law feel” ard Lhe
1 clremmstances sirrosicing the lawsiit to be paraded in fret of
I dwg. 12 they simply wast te pt in a dopesitics statomest te
© stay inte imensisteen, amd tenis properly deme, of amiren,
Po Lieb vende be eppeopeiate.
: Toei second point i, she participates Zor a periss
3 of hime. 1 gins she parkicipeied £7 voitre sbpostacd an
10 wiltens ane Lesbitied, bol Leal wasstl — yoo bow, she wast
1s pety Lo Lie case.
i” Wee Tid point was thar the repitatiesal damages
13 momeres Vitk Pho weal eerowit vas savicg. Saaie, ve.r
11 Honor alreasy Keove vir belt vie le te keep it Mi. Derecoct:
13 from the case, and you'll make a raling ese way of the ether on
Te ELT hers bepl oul of Lie case Lies Lis bocowss + wool.
Tr pelsle Bol eees 1 go. cecice he's in Lie vase, well, okey,
15 Zine. Have him testiiy and co viatewer eles you thisk is
13 apprepriste. un don't mead ko ear a1) abet Ris eealated
2 tail
a Thedr Zeurth point had to do with, 1 believe, joi
22 kao, damages sifftecd by me. Giuffre. yes exestie: was, iF
ZA Wim omm 1 enti ave bee bewssaripl in Trecho” me == 1 Anish
1 gus cals, well, tow core Lie vase Leeds go lo camayee? Rac 1
27 believe this is a direct quote from Ma. Mesninger. “1 can't
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1 bell gui that. So eves tie ceisase uissed vies hes an
7 opperhinity te artisans te relavason Tailed to do 20, f=
4 fhe sage then ber text argent Le, vel, the
3 pladstifi's exports are sing JoEIowti's STAVOMGSt:. a0 jon
© enw rom sen 07 ploadienn, ma, unten nig Mellie
© slalemsite. Were vidy suite Lu be proviso cess ebud viel
: Maxsell's SeZamatic: Sid te Me. Giniize.
3 Tuner Kees 5 x pees b omits s Seiamebive ys sie Ban
12 vs aot yer damages. Then 4% penser a dons somthin, ve
1 ache ane others ate very Luetrietive un tit,
Is ie last podst they made was that, vell, lock, these
Tt cupreenbing ure Tougtve shorn siwellennity La Lime, ol ook
12 similtaeity dn the scope.
V0 WR Yl OR SRNR, SRY Wave
Baar Go wed Bh fr press We, Tae wes 1 delliod
I the Lavetit snd made certain statements Sn Goinecticn ith
2 tne, her ther was to take care of eur oun prefesiosal
2 to cu wits seprecenticg Ne. Glicize.
% 1 believe | fave tuo lest, your nencr, ad ye:'ve been
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1 eatzemely petiel, Lela Joel lake Lio moss mites Lu cores
© peitn Th. his in wien marrats relive
3 Wray may we wan Le pl Hh i ral che lork. Ball, in
1 oir view actially, that va a victory. Our geal was te try to
I get hor iste the case, asd Jaden Marra raled that she could
© parninipats by beitg 8 eiteers
¥ Bow, ase we ceally vuisy bo Ley Lie dmplivalivie oo
2 Judge Marra's ruling in a pro beso Crime Victims fights ket
3 organisation Filingl Fe edad on Rin, bok allowed this eter
1 Leines TL ienly, Tire iereleeanl, ane obeiossly, Fighly
1 prelisiciel bi lie seiee lial dls sudie Lo slot Lie Joey's
12 areenrinn away from the fants ar hae kere.
1” Be aie, Tee Mares sey eolad on Le Tiel a” sine
11 reasuis that ve uiieres Zor pitting those allegations dn. He
17 said pest | decsn't work, the others we'll see how things play
eu
1 Tie Liligalios is mocicg Corvard, Tes Lell yoo Lie
Lf goversmet will be respunsdng to odx summery Jusgmest metic, I
13 belinwn on may 15. Unt1 be replvicg ee ily 1365, fe tn
20 Vikigabio cerliv.es
a Toe last pedst that 1'ML make i: seplan. Tide i: item
22 20. demember, Jerstevitz is going te aay that sovlas save that
FA We. GIATTrn said enekaic Keitge. ed wn wore held beak, wall,
1 maybe ete will be a vitieee
tH It's my understanding that Seylan is Tot en the final
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1 prelzdal witiees Lisl. Magbe cozdop a break 1 ces cuniizm
© tran. win iT sels men ee we witmess Vion, wele gon deikle
1 Tae last podat I weild leave jou with, yeu menor, ie
3 mazy of titer isaues are going to come dow: te balaciag.
© heyivn nf misinal elevates Tor he reaseer univ seplaiced,
Po veey sigiisivesl prelate, esd we woods ash Lisl sec un Lie
: motions in limite ve've asked today be granted,
= COURTS ask you. GANTT renime ak 1:30, asd |
10 enn, tle joo all bith ills beet covers, Lie Masel |
1 melivie. Biel co yuo Leis?
i” Wi var ter senor, 1 wnild e-
iE A COUNT Would ve. rakiar calen veur plat
n NA. TAGLIUCA: Fu. I'm prepares to stay itil
17 temorrew, your sezor. I'm set leaving until temerrow morning,
To Jul i cane vo. teed me Lin uTLarconn. Th sare votre
Ti Leeilles abool Liat,
1 I tadk, your Honor, wen 1 vent threigh these, it
13 renms te we tan wn Rave daaln wits somber £73, 107, in
PE eormechion wile BES, TAZ, ane VIL Tal deals wil Le
21 sedriguez, ve call At the mnavtienticated hearsay docimest from
22 a suspest semen. They sall dt thc black heck, 1 thizk the
73 Cork means argomet sbost 811 67 Kat and, i5 my view, bein
1 dose not all nest to be repeated Losey:
tH esterday, ve talked abost the —— 1 can't remember the
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1 Gems ui Et bib IU ves the plelitiii's metus, sust ui umaibis
A ER PPE)
1 make uatever showing they verted. It veld make seise
3 ell, ix defendant's 434i motion, thoxe arc some of those
© dries, nn well. We ertaiely al arin parh of tan
¥ Banal may vask Lu vwles Lisl Lr Low walienly wi vows ve Bae
: vhatever tie supplemect is te tiat metic yesterday.
TH Gwin ra Lo Low re ow TB wonplaTE Ta bavi
3 vompeliog motivi ui lial, Tael's oofe IU seme lo am tial vas
n Zo dn my view, yoix Susur, that leaves tie bifurcated
13 teil meric, whieh has been fally briefed, the selles asd
Tr ve save Lies Lite
1 also bave sn my calendar thet oir moties te
15 prealidn == ar tha plain TT matin fo proctdn sling
I calendaring the reply vas due yesterday, 1 thizk me, Mecavley
2 tana diffrent versie of That, and oe Srakly, © éen'e sane
a Zo that's my evcwistisg ui viet ve fave tips Su
7 arpment teday, or sheslén't have argent today, as the case
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1 ErTIavoor gscetan
2 130 pm
3 A CAR Wrote pT T LEiSE Lhe detesral
1 MAL DAGLIUCA: Yes, jour soior. 1 think Me. seialtz
I recuosted that wo take sp be. G66 at this pednt, which we're
5 rapper to dn
¥ TIE COURT: Qi yea. es.
: ME. MEKNINGER: Your Sener, this metic: relates to cir
3 remiash Beak we evalide evideran barred an a Goesoaienan oF
TE plaieLE Tt mary Doomed corcnnzions. Be asked 0 arg mel
ILA un ver somecy Docemenl molivi of peslied somazy Dosemeil
17 wits respean te the oral statement en daiary 46% te a
13 reporter.
n THE COURT Hole the phuie.
5 MEL MabMGA Sure.
1" TCHR Sorry. Feedlers Lo sav, Thm drewsivg.
1 Be okey. Okey. forey. Tes
1 ME. MEKKINGET: We ackes Zor partial summery Ducement
13 wits racpean tn oir Alinthis Statemech on 3 New ork Sheer
PE ale Tam retereivg Lo Lee slilemerl Lal ve wise.t Ra ve
21 set forth dn eur summary fidgmest bried, this cenrt's ruling dn
22 afrlees v. sarris is direstly on peist, that a meve refereser
£1 uetitite en ectivieble repetitive or sepiblivelive, Ia tiet
37 case, in Adelacn, there vas, first, an allegedly defamatory
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1 statemct eis lates « press selvsse hits sald, ve staid by
7 ewmeyieg wn said. AIS Siveenly me pith, wir eer there
1 that clearly fn oir argent 1 of the summary didemest metiss,
3 and platzeifs, in her reapesse to sury Sims, made
Fs TS
T Lhel aspomesl. Ba, Liereluce, belises Lisl abe hes wives
: the poist asd ve wild ask that fo evidence rearing that
3 spies AU da sespunes Lo uit somes Jpmest molius, Liey
12 emila trv to ua tne eppertiniey ef weir respesse to this
11 net be pemities to ou su junk Ewe. Th any event, toed
13 argamests thar they have set forth in response —
In TEER Tra lille losl. Peraps Loally losl:
FE Bul Le peekind wena Jospmmnl Lab's sob ews dell wil;
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Ma WANA Ih er on park 67 yr Camarts
a tas GOTT Tell me the oetext of the summary
© samen.
£1 sinber ui taligs thet ve believes plalitic: hes conven
31 hecaise they failed to respond to cir requests if cir summary
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Taetgios =
1 Jicgment motion, Your Sumer ruled agadiel ie us a cusple ui
© peithn, bun yor comer war sleen wits vespeen to thin
3 pari. tir argumeel, argmonh Ko, 3 =
1 155 coum Rh
E me, mebniNGas == dn your sling
H Wear ame teat enn
¥ HE. MENTNGIR: Ou plednlio's slelemeil bo sage
+ ater the
s WL CHAR Whe ane on a stroot
iE MOL OWRETHER: TescLly. Tal in Leal slalewsrl, oor
LL Chisel sels, ve sles by Lie statement, ve, Tan ceseeciie to
17 tee sraremest than we made.
iE A CONN Var, yam, ver. Okay. Tim Jrh bevieg Le
11 zigize At it. fu Li a very nice, polite vay, joi're telling
13 moo failed to deal with tat meticn of yours.
1" MSL WEETHGR: ealts corrscl, your Taner.
1 TTI COURT: fe Blt LIL ul Liste.
1 ME. MEKKINGEZ: Still out there. Tiere was fo
13 rarpenea by plaiehi TT te Keak aromnch in eur poith: Kear in
JE reir raspotse Lo xowmary comerl, Ley diontl meslion iL al
FIRTH
22 Ta cous well, that's probably where 1 missed it.
a WoL WEEKTRGAS antly. Go 1 Reick Kee Tack tah
£1 teey celles to reepuis Lo AU Limi ae your Honor hee els dn
20 other cases, has consequences; namely, it's a conceded point.
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1 a eu thels Seblice to seeps
’ Fe GMAT ARah wan Khe pie, than Ran was on
4 ME. NEINGEZ Sractly. In the vase of Adeles
© saris, fut like ia this sane, there was ee alleeccly
T daeowd lial aleled, ve sles by weesylidsg ve sai. Touse
: fate are very similar to cre, viers there vas a vrittes
0 copii Weak Arak vega dally vl
n TED COUT: Okey. Thank yuo very min. Koval least
12 i tds Tieele small part of tris dismite, | kee wore | an
rar mak
n ME. MEFKINGSS Ba the Aoeleci cass, Juix Renek,
13 costrels asd says that referring hack to a Statemest, sch as a
Tr hes bees prastes ws son alleges copublivativie. Su sows &
1: thts motion dn Limkoe, fe Got toe Gime to be cealing with toe
18 ribetative paint that plaihiT? barienTly snmanded frig
a Toazk you.
= WL Smuts sd, wer seser. Meredith senile,
a Tele motion Ln Lincs Ges already bees sevioss by thle
3 cost's summary Sudgmest créer, thereby resderizy it meat in
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1 ite sibirety, Becoreiiply Ab envnls be sommerily senies se
3 lL Te AN Ba et BRE TL Hts
1 the exact same arguments Gefeicant scvaneed Ln her summary
I sdomest motien, she is acekisg rehcarisg en Ger summary
© Sudgmeer morins, drereed up ar a monies 1% limien. Meey Asiees
dn lide heleivl have somnezily vesivd molivie in Linke Lil
seek to relitigate argamests Zrom summary J:cemest, ang I have
3 Virted six sic cases er pager 1 and § of eur repanae i
10 oppenilion. Too ordered “ine delercaelis woliors or iwwery
1 meal. Teds Coil selects Lie zpos Liab sie shoud have
12 partial sawars Sudgmest on ren daciary 45% statemest. Tee
13 lark serleren 0 Leal arden shales, Meese oF bo ori lanen
11 of triable estes of material Zact ratisr than eplilen ase
17 bosses the prelitigatis: privilece is inapplicable, tie motion
To Cer cowmsry jodomerl ix detied.t Tetemdashls reileralion o
Ti ber elamalory press release conlitmicg IL Lo deye leler is
12 eumetiing that tide Court Sic net rile that that de net
13 actiecable. sn shots sackicg reearion
» iso imporlarilv, vo.r Toor, Mi. Gi." re opposed
21 evmmary Sudgmest on defendant's defamation in it: entirety
22 she eppescd the movies for summary Sudemest iz irs cxtireer,
23 avd mic shatemet, ar park asd pares of doandanin
41 wezemativn ens pert enc parcel of seescest's metien fox
3 summary Judgment.
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fi TEL COURT: Well, weal co yuu sed abut Lis vase
7 tents tees cine
41's factually elatisgiishes becates here she ds two dage later
3 redveratisg her defamatory statemcst. sd J vesld alse dircor
© vm tn thn carn dn my Brin®, Weenlizan v. tamoen
: TEE COURT Lele Doel wel Lie Lime seams sigils
: we. gomunz gure.
n MEL SCHULTZ: fu, yuok Tuier, Lie emadd Lisl vest to
B text cay. un Janiary 2, Eli.
31 Weebiopu ies maken Sh wher Ul Jus Genk Tet wey
1: fusgmest ona meticn dn Limine sic alec makes At clear thet gos
18 math sav, ob, Bosirn avn pores —=
2 TCA: Tre dns fn, vas La mecord slalom
i cetamatery:
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2 tats alzessy bees recolies,
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Taetgios ok
1 ME. SCHULTZ: Sevens AU vas denied, ju. Hour.
7 He A Te monies wns = well, say
3 MS. SCPC: Your Terr, eds anmowieg, ratio,
1 that thls fa net cases of action, It should still be acmittes
I ae evidenec. Tile ds a motien in limiic to cxelide it as
© widen.
¥ TOE COURT: BAL sigil. Resume sui Lie mameil Lal Lie
case that counsel has given me ds accurate, and then wy wesld
iE MOL SCTE TL mu whale of wise, Gelescarlls shale
Ben min kn desdiy
1” Tue GETS TER Stare of mind dignir staan in tee
EER
n ME. SCHULTZ: Right. It saye that she stoes by Ger
17 statement asd 61d not zeerast it
1" TCUERN Wall, sve cerlaisly ix slesdive by il
TE Loder.
1 ME. SCHUTZ: Rio yeur Senor, dt shove wie otier
13 teite. Wereigest this likigakion dnhedath bar tried te angi
PE Lal salamat vas volt ivg Lo to wilh Lia dalumalory
21 statements. In fact, Just yesterday defendant's ceunsel wa:
22 saving that dt vas issued by her laver azd by ter press agent.
23 Aka bor shatemsekh, avd it ARie video fia in porsecally owsivg
1 it ane ene can't five bendie her lawyer or ber press agents
tH Tau COLE Oh, okay, okay, okay.
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Taetgios »
1 ME. SCHULTZ fu AL gme Lo a meleriel aspaml list
3 TU CHAT: Go Lo Lhe erat ial becowss ie inne,
4 and that's a whole otéer thlig, as to Wiether she intended the
I atavemezt, 1 san sce that,
H Dav. M11 rieRh. aevriee lead
¥ ME. ZCIULTZ: Yee. I'm Jel guise Lu say Liab Lids ie
© a motion in Limite and there are to evidentiary problems with
3 thin pisos of cvidataa. Wein in tee dafeedart arse] an
10 camarn, Lei in tol Pearzay, av Lierals co Teseral Tole of
1 Sekdence Lael stoude exclose Lider
i” Tee GE Okay. de ves wath to add atyekizai
iE Mo. WIEKTEGTR: fie, Lek yo, your Toner
n TES COURT: Okey. Thank yeu.
5 sat else:
1" MR. PRGLTUCR: Your Tovar, we an Lava Lp Lr
Ti biliccalior dss Lial's presesles in 882 and 388, ane Lies
15 there ves a reply Siles last eveniig.
1: we a ver.
» WEL PRGLIGCRS Your Toror, T Lritk well, T dost
20 thizk, whe lav de very clear en this deste dn this cizowt.
2 racer gpa =
a WE COURT R11, 1 Eek wn an sherk Weis.
a MI. DRGLICCE: Tee.
tH Tau COLE wes, ges. Maxvell's money doesn't coms in
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1 un the Lisbbilty cess. Taeb's jus pusitiva
: We pan Ta i my peririns, wir mr
PRET Tp—
H Ma. Gasssbt all Tight. Thask joi, Jour seer.
: or problem, a ial, ir, vet, See sek wore donnin
Toms in eb Lis Lisbidily stags, bob T Lick Lis deosiect ie
: taping to get the camel's Sose wader the Tent aid say. oh AZ
Ir TU COURT Ball, T don boo wal, Cieaveial fase
3 guimesn Bets sayiig ho daltetilius ui ber Clee bil
12 i, ow wink menoy Shea dot or were it ames Srom or anvtRing
n ME CRESSMLG Be © incexstan ths metich, 4t's with
15 refereser to her “Simaeial statist
“ TR CORT Wally T Junk hati vas wal T Lik Leal.
Me. CREEL Thgnt. Ae 1 tdi, with the
TH HS A A, Ve TRE
Bi carcmroad abot, Lx be, Bul. bak we be alee
a Tau COT What weds yon dike to present
2 Mi Eaifals Ewe enw three or oe thiser ur weil
23 Mika be pesah. 17 ymin Fear ilo Wak Mo, HTT tax
£4 complies cei go to ber cewelbhdity, toe ve voids Like to be
3 able to reciprecally say, all might, thes Me. Mamwvell's tax
SUA TITAN ARAN, Puc.
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1 complisice, 1: Liese de guesbivie sbuit Lisl, wuuls be
© rredied. we thik thar where stecldin be ras som inee
4 well, that goes te her crecibility. What's good for
I me. Giaffre shesld be good Zor the defondast. sit again, te he
© mlean, wn doth wasn fe Ries HER Sehe 8 Rav eeiali ee wash in
Tle be a ceoamsliv Ledel. Bol Lisy've mace an sciomeil, Les
2 decuee are relevait to Me, Gizifze, Tees ve voild like to have
3a parallel opportininy Kren with aspect he We. Waeall.
1 Tre alter Lit we fave, Tor esawple, vetre Allagivg
1 here's vivenicstive Liab ds payicy viele Lo give sex to
12 sporein. ane whe's makizg the pavmestsi well, me. Maweell,
1 masedsn, wesre sists dn cares of tee
5 tea tovin well, that's édfferest,
1 TOI COURT: Teall sol her Citenciel sles
1 MIL CREEZLL Right. fo that's not her Sinascial
13 satin. Gor ovample, en with te shee torn Kisdn of pavaests
21 other girls vere not coming inte a bungalow in the middle of
22 aohoken or whatever. They were omine inte a massies in ene of
a THD COURT: Well, that's gut sotilig tu se wits ser
3 fizancial statis.
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101
Taetgios
1 MI. CRESEIL: BLL rigil. Well, ve Liwigil, wien ve
7 filed mir respnnan, they Aerisied to opens iE. 17 whey Bad
3G Lip.lated, vo. bow, Tee.ldetl be Labicg voor Totorts
1 time.
E 33 this ds where 1 thik they're taking a arrow
© mmm prizeiple, ten Ser en werts danett com in, aed
see veins Lo Ley Lo cee db Lo sade svisenoe Lisl He. Hasvell
2 ie making payments to the girls, that this mansion is a very
s COURT WaT, okay. 1 donth LEER ro
iE MA CRSITER: Tel we Joh webs wire Lil T rave on Low
1 lable Lie Lidige Lisl ve veil Lo dolovsve.
i” sor example, Mr. spsteis purekased a Eeliespter for
TE Me Mall, aes Ley mich may, on, wall, Leal sows Sisaseinl
11 static ur sumetidig. Be LLisk Liat shove a very close
17 eemneotien.
1" Ball, Lee lash one uw partaps Loe worl corlroversial
Tr ote dn corrective wilh Lids case is Lie Lowtocse, TL ds ut
1: belie: that a
1: He GUA Wel, win mitite. WRaRts ta basic of
28 yor balia's
a MIL CREFSLLY The basi: Zor cur belie: ia, 1 believe
22 waeyter cozocded that there war a sale of a 317 millien
23 howbouse in 2G1E
a TEI COURT: Okey. Ie db bow seisscente toviivses?
tH MIL CREFSLLY Yes. fo the gestion iz
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1 TID GOETH Eu Lael perl on her sel rte. Tomes,
© tmants par of ree Timateinl part. | dee'n sen Sow than gens
3 bee bea LiabidiLy cane,
1 MAL CHEEILLY RAgEt. £0 Tpetels was the oie vio
I provided tic leas to got that —
H Mean save wma
¥ MR. CRECILL: Me. MeCaeley, wiv Louk Mesvedl's
: ceposition, is acvieiny me that curing Maxell's cepreiticn,
iE TU CERT Wall, all rigrh. Ohay. Sk Lal inet
1 Chnenciel dsietmativn. Thal's lie selelivietip betwee: Maxwell
1° ane aperein.
iE MRL CRASIL: Righl. TRIE ve. and Tare ov Lee
11 came page. My concer: ds tat ve may, a on tier leciss, may
13 met be en the same page with the defendazt.
1" TCHERR 1 dont Lniek so, bol maybe Thm rot.
1 ME. CRESTIL: There's ure ulter poisl, ii T can isl
1: be hears en the towsioise. Tie townioise vas sole at a time
13 srertdy ather e. Maenll i Gicminsiog wits bar advisers, tev,
PET Got gel sued Tor Hibal. Oa believe Leal Loans ereivg
21 37 millics esteide the Jurdsdietics of your senor
2 ms GOVE Tell me shout that after yes've got a
a MI. CRESSLL: BLL rigel. Sut we vent to dntrosice it
37 caping the trial to show conselenazess of gilt, that ale ds
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1 tieneiesriy serie svey sium Lie Jzdeciobive on Loe veel
Ta
1 Mi CAESSLLY GRU. ASter she wrote an email that
I said, hey, 1 eeuld got —-
fi] Te GUS ve ant are, | deste ERIE, tRan
To Liable an sdmissivis
: Mi CAEESLLI We believe it goes to conecicienees of
1 FLT LE yoo fave 4 CHIL wil Lal sual]
1 piece vn ves ssgomenl, Toman, T Ladik Lie evel on AL de
12 really, ve: knee, tie meat and peratons kore, ane
iE A CoA okay. Yer
n MA. TAGLIUCR: Yuir Renz, I'M going te et try te
17 belabor this, but 1 have to respoad to some of the points, dust
ww Tie langage Lial ve proposes Lo Lie Coel abu. Lie
1: zizenciel statie comes Zrom tie very cases tiat aze in the
20 zm rillery: bo evidence a: to defendant's financial static
22 may be prescsted te the fury curize the first phase of the
£1 Circuit cays tit Laet'e Los preieices mebios, Mio Casesll, 1
20 think, keowisg that he's losing this battle, thes tries to
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—_ 11
1 change it,
7 win Siren of 11, dents walk ahoin thin sesssiniasens
BT CR LT al i SRR A ANS
4 bit the law tat they cite. Tiere are relereices to a Few York
I rest article that ds the ==
H Tea LS UR1Y, SRaRte =a gong, choise
¥ ME. PAGLICCR: 0. vu.zew. Biv Lien Lisee's
reference to hacer frlize. That's thelr satire svidertiary
3 Baris Ter Lhe proton Leak they Tinh made ke you, voir Teter,
10 aoc Leb oweromss TL doses th Tlys Re T dort sees Le
nape
i” Tee GET Well, wait a mite. There was a little
TI Bil wera. Tears wan Mawall savin sen cel loss, Ley sey,
11 Crom Spetein to biy tie heise.
5 Mi. PAGLIVGA MEAT she sald, your seser —- asd |
16 role iL cows boise T looked al. Lie daposilion Leavsariph
Tr leet nigel
1 Tizet ui all, 1 taiok it's important fur tide
13 dinmirion, wn allound miaskions rolativg he ampkig Titaseinl
20 wile Me. Tpaleic. Go bre one ieskr.cLios Leal T geve Lo
21 me. maxvell during tide depeaitics vas, anything they ask you
22 abest spotedz dn fine. Um zet ening to let vos talk abet
73 your ows parsesal Timaeinl i-Tormakios boca.se PLU ok
£1 wlecoverable sb tide polit, Ba eo Liey hes Sel spportoaily
20 te ask hex questions. They asked her questions abest the
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1 toviiome, ens sie cele part oo IL ves = dues irom Mr. Spetels
7 thar had been paid hack, asd thats eeica te be years ann,
1 Tat's my saderstasciny of the factual basds here.
H #5 ve can 1 thick deal with that partieslar issue, yen
© enw, AF and wens in comer ap, bt wean Um avice 0 Hen
© Comtl 1 mean Lhe Sunrl ent Tacs un Lis seme pepe Lie
sale of the tovsieme, the amoist of the sale of the towsiome,
3 vel beow, wal did or ide happes te tho meray Trem tha ale
10 07 Lie Lowsrome, Lose are all 07 Limils driv Lia Liability
1 phase ue Lie Ledals
i” Tee GET Well, Anrrent me 7 I'm wrong. we demir
neal
5 Mi CAGLILGAS We Gent,
1" LS TE
1 MR BRSLICCR: Tames is foie.
1 TE COUET: Okay.
1 Wa BRGLIGRE md ben Senies Kak thin mney enor
20 rraskly, less 4T WEST to some SUILGEY that 4'm unfamiliar
22 with, 1 thizk the furiseistier of this seurt extends preeey
a TED COURT 1 tadek Let's for entices sey
28 Mi BAGLIVCAD HEE.
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Taetgios we
1 Tae last polit T waa to make, juiz Sunez, un take
© imme nf ensniminess of Guiln velates te the on mann tear
3 Ley ile or Lhe proporilion hal Ler is sows sbilily Lo
1 have a conseloseness of guAlt theory in a civil case. Tiey
I oite a soeond Girewit criminal case in which the defesdazt was
© aman awed ws. Weir Aran 71 3d 1751, avd inte a 153
To Gase. Me. Bee ves @ leaves ii Lie Locvtess ceime amily who,
© over a coures of time, ordered 11 murders anc tien sbaceided
3 rom tre jurisdiction dirivg tha trial of a sumber of
10 comdeleriarles Ree iL war called "Pe Miscou Gaze Fare ©
LL ew Turk, ei gus mey semesbes il, jo.s Suis, Lecases il ves
12 rhe entese anime family thar was ancerellisg the replasemest
13 vinden in Lee sily 67 Kew ork. So He. fase Goes Lo
11 trial, an tee goveriment regiestes sie receives an Lietrictic
12 to the Sury that said net only his flight vas consciousness of
TH Guill bil re lenis of Lea absaras of ia CLigh ws
Tr coreciocstess ol golll, Ree dn fact, Lie Secose Sircodl
18 reverses that Lnetrictic ane clespproves At in that criminal
13 mann bin didn revaree Bir sovintins heswir tha neidatan of
PE GIL van pearerelmive. So Lie one case Leal. Luey eile Tor
21 tide propraitien fn fact i: inappesite to the peaitien that
22 waey'ee takize hore today.
a So 1 kk your Comer and 1 are sdeed on Lin same
1 page Gere, ane T' ack tial Use Suit elmply apply toe lav bo
3 millers.
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1 Bu Me. Mesiliger remiie me, juoz Sunur ane 1
© wRitE te Gorn and | are 6 tee same pags on Ris as well —-
Be a rg mati mise by Me. Cannell. Tedead, Meo Wawel] ied
1 the plalstiff are nob on the came Sorting in thls vase with
I regard ve win pit their ropitaties at issue, wie is claimisg
© emenineal Aistenns damanen, ad PlaieRiTS ave i= a mis
Po icereil posilive Lien seosiisile wien il comes Lo
rose examizatice abeit these dssues, particularly in
3 dnTwminion carer, becwine as We. Messisgar peitiad oi cartier,
10 Leder Role Az, weerglring Leal inpacls Lie plaislicf ts
1 sepelelive Lo Lie vomncily, bicleiog Lie sails Lo sullor
12 aw, iz tho subdear of arosecxamizatie. de the aremest
13 Weal wal in ond er Lv gears in goad Car Lea qasder iv a
11 cezamatic cae elmply coesi’t apply Wash yoi're talking abuit
17 damage issues and vepstaticzal issues.
1" Trak vo, your Teter.
1 ME. CRESTIL: Could T Jel have 1: secusie, yout
1: semen:
1: we a hn
2 WAL CRGITILE RIL rigrL. Tacks
2 Ths COLI Next,
2 Mi. PAGLIVGAY Yesr meter, we ooalé next take Sp the
23 neue rolakite ke ke police rperts wie 1 Rave an
1 ceensant'e moliv Ln Linbie Lo sxclice police reports ase
27 other inadmissible hearsay at $77, response at 147, asd then
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Taetgios i
1 reply ves elev cilec jestezsay.
7 Fen ven okay. ven
3 WR. PRGLIGCR: Your Torr, Lrara reporls, Lu are
1 loosely describes a: pulice reports, encompass a oie year
I parported dnvestigatics by the ralm scach velics Jcpartmest
© iehe tee aTTain of Me. aperis nsgnly hegissie | RRisk is
AEs nd gedag Lisu.gs 2006. Tae veleclive dniliclly sesigies
© to the case was a woman named Micielle Tagan, aid then
3 eteative Seaarey took over Ke ivestigakion Crom Me. Page
10 Truce were 4 saber of Lhing, according Le Li eeporks
IL alluogi ve sun'l seally fave sy acloel wiliees Lesbinoiy,
12 wins murrene koeeledoe. The peline £1 a wher of This.
13 Weep sevilla Tpeiaiste boos, Ley 18 Lear pole, and
11 Gitimately they ekevilec a search varzast at Me. Speteds's
13 hesse, And that's sort of the totality of the Lvestigaties,
1" T give vo. Luk an Lie backirop, vo.r Totor, becs.ne
Ti Lier esl vial seems Lo teppes iz very vocivos, img
1: experience, ane vas testifiss to by detective fecarey. Tie
13 pelimn nen arorenve with © state atker-eyts 07s ic
20 Tlarisa, ave Lrere ix complete dizkesl balyaes Loe lo
21 agencies. a: a result of that and there's a bunch of
22 sm-fightize that encs en betwee: these twe acezeies. fhe
23 polio mike ten decision bo, in some Tartine, hie over
£1 weerylidig tial biey cers Lo Lue TSI. Bao ee beet 1 ven Sigiie
23 it eat, the SL issued a grad Jury subpoena, of the Lf.
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Taetgios s
1 Bttusiep's Sails, Lo lie Soobiess Dletzicl 6 Tlorice, dees
7 A eranA fury sdbpesta Sor the cewivery nf rhe pale seach relies
3 eparlmerlis evidenes relakicg Le Ure Tpaleis dvasLigalio
1 fo a: ve eit Gere tossy and ined Zor the last ten years since
I 2006, tho ralm seach roliot Jepartmest has net bees the
© mintedian af amy of thir evidesen
¥ Fu su Lal's Lie cavload bachesop Lu Lis vial
becomes costiniing problems wits the types of evicence tiat I
3 artiaipate Ke plaiehi TE are Goitg te hey be iskrodin in tin
10 Gann Tow Ciel bn Lincs police reporks Lremoslvess Red Lal
LL de dbuil £7 ur 22 pages ui socamenle, Sepeilig ui whic
17 iteration of these police reports semeose is lokitg at. Tar
13 asmarbially mor regs Le course of Lhe ieveskiabion. fed
11 Im eure tilige that gens Senne seen beiore, jon Kavu, pelice
17 officer docs scmetiing, they put it down en a piece of paper,
16 somebody pole iL ivle u syslew, avd Lee Leable were iL oss:
Ti BLL Lie problem tere, Ctcameslelly, wilh Liese police
1 reports
1: Tou GUAT bok mn back Gp Tint a moment.
» Wa. PRGLIUCRS Vas, sir.
2 Tau COLIN mew are these going To be entered dite
22 cwidesoei They're met self authenticating.
a WAL PEGLIGCR: Peete ol
a TES COURT: Eu cow ere Ley gulag Lo be preesites?
EH Mi LMGLIVCAD food question, Jour senor.
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pres
Taetgios
1 HE. MCCBHLIY: Du yu. vesl me Lo escives Liat, jour
© cemari meas, ints eur evidean Ran entre tevieg te gen it
3 edo vo. wat me Lo wilt
1 THs COUPT Well, ye don't kiow. Tee defense doesn't
T kmow
H LE LE
T pressil Lives Sovomeile, juot Sues.
: Tas COUT Wee. Okay. ALL right. Secase there's
3 co El witeens listed.
iE WAL BRALTUCR: Meare ix co record coxledia ak all Tar
IL Lieee socameite. Drleclive Secarey do ids sepusilive ei
17 wes awe thin, the relevate answers to these miestiets —-
13 ambessladces Leal hey fonth aus any 67 Lei auidaen. Red ro
11 that’ geliy to be, gon knew Jui have sesh, Ln miltiple
17 filings frm thc plaintiffs, they attach excerpted comments
Th conlainivg shal Urey may are prove mesmaes sec.res rom Li
Ti Least polls. fo lial wold be en exemple of ecideice for wich
12 there de no zecors wistesian. Frankly, 1 sent Kaew wie the
13 reiran ef amy of than i=fermation in. Phir ir yon avertar
20 piece 0 i ermilion Lal ax appeared, Thm presi bro qr
20 mr. sdvarcs getting it somehow, you uow, in Zelatien to come
22 other case azé then it apprars in disesvery dn this ease. And
73 wan ih looks like in, vos keew, 4 cmbor 0, ve: keow weal
£1 they cay are protocoples of messave pase Szom Speleli'e Lach.
37 sat there ds fe persen whe will say, this particular piece of
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on
Taetgios
1 paper vem sion Tpeleic's Lien Lo lie Sliel Listens, Teese
© in me pers tan wil] sav, we kept tones dommests and wn hav
3 Le originals and vo. as coms look al Liam avd vo. cen Ler
4 them ane feel tiem. There ie vo perecd that will say any of
3 that hesazac AT west te the grand Jury and preawmably, sader
Tin 55, ins sevnr momin ein 0 tRn grand Suey amaic
¥ So Lie ulies point sbul Lise mesesve pase do, 1
© dent to this cay knew vhether that's Just hand picked pertiess
3 of wakever plaieniTT coisa] got years age or inte Khe
10 wrlively of wal, yo. brow, Palm Teacr Gi or ¢idrL do, bol
IL wien 1 sekes Selective Sevag Lise Goesbivie bo bie
12 deposirion, Be said, | eaztt tell yes 17 thants cverprize. |
TI url Gal aed hie SLT by plaieli TT mera], ve. Yeo, in
11 tie cuizes oS bade cepeeitici, ane that's all 1 van tell yen
12 abest it. fo that's anetier piece of thls that's problematic
16 Cer Lhe plaislitte
1 There's arolter izes Lil relates Lo a Learscripl of
12 a vitoess, Me. Hall, an tie plaiitizis, 1 think, wast to tzy
13 to imkredien tan traceariph or, altar-ataly, what they sav in
20 ae usaio recerdivg oF ar itherview wile rar, ang Thm vol sre
21 widen they are trylig to intresuce, but there are problen:
22 either way, rie trazeeripe, what © will sall the sall
73 Krassariph, wes in Tach -oh prepared by tea Palm Aen Police
£1 Department. Recuselag Lo Detective Tecersy, he nes sever ems
23 it before, duricg his deposition, asd he surmised that it had
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12
Taetgios
1 been prepares by tie slale's attoriey's wizioe Lut Ge alda't
© Kem. én wan Sappens the wits tein trasseripn is, teere in
3 an ubhewpl al a dopor iio Ma. Tall i= Mim, Lvix semen,
1 and Ma. Hall comes in ane she site coun, ane she Goesn't wast
I to acawer acy euestioss about asytidsg, and ale says. 1 don't
© remember atysisg abesh any of £hin. one lmewnr save, fo
Po eentl cemenbes siybiing abuol sy un bide and sie spel Lie
© last ten years Zurgetting abost all ef tide and aie’ fet golig
3 to remember aybhiog about, Kir. Me. Gdwards hon pike bee
IT Leweneripl 1% roth of Fer asd sve coset tL look al Lo Se
IL sumentl ween Look al Lie Lissevzipl, Sie somen'l Lozi Lie
12 pane. ste docsnie read acy of dt. There's a miesties asked an
13 nome pail lakers Teeth ik kei Leal avery ieg ve. said ie
11 tie police cepartment vas tris? Ric tush shurtly acter that,
17 tie depeaition ends. And they're trying to say that that is a
1 et ieienh well bain and an eviseslisey basiz Cor Lie
Tr eemieeion of Luis Lrarecripl, which de, yo. hiow, -apussored
1 beatasy.
1: Aharets a imilar problem with this reserdieg heswion
JE Me Tall sever lished Lo Lie recorsive, secer a Lreslicalas
21 the recording, And so there's So evidence vhaticever that it':
22 Me. mall's statemezt or that it was subdest to any
a fo to ey to get arouse all of tases seloestiory
27 problems, ow what's being advasced by the plaintiffs is, well,
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we
Taetgios
1 we're sob siterlig any ur bide Sur Lie Leith un bie melted
© asserted. in 31 pages of peline reperts, a uedred panes or
3 ower wary Liars are oF Leash, yo. bow, eileen Lesseripls,
4 no, me, He, 6, Gene oF That de being ciferes for the trath oi
I the matter asserted, we vast te offer it to show He. Maweoll's
© state nf ming whee Shr ines er tatemer Heroic We. aries
Tees Me. Gur. So Lie fege peoblem wilh Liab, gues Tene, widen
we've alreacy dealt with, is, Me. Mamvell fae no knowledge of
3 wRakts i ere police reports, Hho Leash pila, any ef bres
10 Leingn, an 0 an 4 Waller of law, Liz castle perl of Fer
1 state ulmi,
i” War dz d=strierive en ves point, Geir seer, | went
13 am een every ingle Gane Leal plaieli Ts ceueaol sited Ter
11 thle propesiticn that At 1s state of mise, and wiat's great
12 about these cases, fraskly, every single ee of them, wisever
16 Le slalemsrl ix being inbrod.ced or etal” 07, or minal,
Ti ios abuol Lie slelemerl, fo wher jo. look al Lieic papers,
1: they cite Unites States v. Gottd Zor tie preposition thst it
13 cons be chan 0 mite. Well, yn: keow whe He lobed in, amd
PE Wr. Gobbi war erred wile wiles Lomperiog. We. GolLi ware
21 to datrecive some iretapped statements That The £31 had, where
22 mo was talkize to az informe azd tolline the informant things
23 Krak Gobbi said week bo Rie shake of mivd. Wall, Ke Gocond
£1 Clzcudt cain, yee you ven so Lust, Mr. Gelli, fizet ui all,
37 because the goveriment's intredueiig PArt of these transcripts,
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wm
Taetgios
1 anc secuit of all su thal'e & zile ui vompleleiess, sid
7 armed af a1, yo unre there ad yes Seard in asd sherefere,
3H wee go Le voor sale oF wind aed ol Tor ka Led 0 Lia
1 matter asserted.
E Thc ext case ds Lnited States 7. Jipree. That's
© ameter arimieal ease in tei eivesin, were a bask fra
Po ensenl ves Lie sublel un a Lewpucscy ceslisiiicg wever
seed to that cefendant, okay! fo, you kuow, Ge has a
3 hemperary restraisieg order, yo cast hake ay mosey ook of
IE Leis bark less joo Go XT. ave 7 Bell, be Look Lie worey
1 Gil un Lie beck wilionl sedis XT, ess 2, ei ween de vane Lo
17 trial in Sin erimical ease, ton gewertmest was alleecd to
13 ieheadian Lal resteaicieg erie bodies iLowar Sie resheaieig
11 orcer, he Kiev abuit At, ane At shoved his VILLZZL dStent te
13 defraud as part of the bask frazd, So that's that cast,
1" rise Records, WC v. Line Group, TIS war arolier
Ti cee Ley tely vii Tyain, Liese are smells lial ate beity
15 talkies about tet vers written by the celencant's employees aio
13 teen tea rarpeeer te there emails. an mlearly bn dnfenianr
20 TIE rau corperale browledqs of Lrose Lricga. Gersersrols
21 suftuaze programs, statement: made by an agent of the
22 defendant, those are all the thizes that we're talking shest dz
23 Keak cars, and re Karas ankial keewladgn of Kea eehiky oF
1 those statements, widen then vas go for elate of mize
tH Tiere are two more cases. Creanenz v. Penguin Greip.
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wu:
Taetgios
Lene lie ves cage, Al's cilepited Lie seseient hes actiel
© prior ¥revledae of the Snes, 0F thn at-issie statemons tear
3 ware o™ared by Lhe deterdich, gain, Le slalomerly ver wide
1 to Crescenz.
E and thes the last oace ds a Lid case, Mersey v.
© mwigrem. wean iuelued mivil rigte wislatiess and shirative
ressutablesess by Lie uooivess wv cusoled o sess un a
© bullédng, © thick the Court kiovs frem delip this kind of verk
3 beak pronby week ayiRing is an otTiearts bead in allowed ina
TE Gealitied tmsily case, bucase wrelier Lie officer ci
IL sumelibi Lieb ves ubleclively seasuisble ui sol sepsis ui
12 whats in the effinerts brad, and se ther iz (a) an exeeptien
13 ie tease Kindo casas, Buk (3, §- Chel, bee vidoe Leal
11 vas being slecieses dn the Giallfies Mnity eitiaticn relates
13 to statements that the officers had heard, whieh formed the
1 bari of why Lier wel inho a building
1 To it ea an esery vie ol Less veses an all cases
13 that ceal with state of ming, the peracs wie it ia belie
13 inteedinnd aittor Tor ar agaicet, cen er fe tris ef tee
20 miller asseries bol Cor Lair shale of mine, naz Le brow bol
aan
2 10 have ateacied te aur reply az affidavit frem
23 We. Mareol] wre rays shale cover read ay of tease polis
£1 poste prive tu Jeseery 451i. Bes Liens de pews seesun ur
27 that, geur soner. It's Sot easy to get these police reports.
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106
Taetgios
1 Be guotes tears, lie chads ui vietosy bends ties Lidige acter
7 ZEEE Sn Vieele skereby. asd, got kee, ir reeves sew
3 eter. Red se, vo. brow, ordivary Telks T dosti bolic wre
1 going te be, joi kiow, FuGtisg around LEyisy To Serzet eit
I pelios reports from south slerida, sven if you get them, they
© are mravily eednntad, anh fe wine oon leeks at term, iRin
T cieleally impuseible Lo Lell who's ab leans, who's sapity vial
abut whem, because there are lots of blacke:ts tireugh these
3 police reports. Wa menaced sowstow = aed Traskly, 1 dest
TT meet brow bow Lo Gel a% Sredacled copy, are Jeleclive
11 Recazey was s.tprise ven be sav Lie izesacled copy becaoss
17 ke said, we alwaw rear these tRitar. asd an I'm welear an
13 he hee aoe in redaction, Bk i any suenl, ars is eee
11 there. But T son't knew Lev ve get At.
5 Tae other point en this, your seser, is, again, thers
6 i ows libarky Laker iv Lia pluishi®T ts papers abo.l. wal
Ti Me Mesvell seit vr len'l sey i ber deposilivt abu l Lise
1: police reports, sic tisy try to make Gey ever, she kis: abut
13 ten plies roports by the releative prasestario of than
28 ueporilion Leslimony. Red Thee eile Lv acloal cole or vo
21 in the reply brie, bit wiat i: tetable, in my view, 1a tiat
22 wien me. maxwell is peesested with ticsc pelic reports, it is
23 for ken Sivek hime ak For deperihios by Me. Matavley, and tears
1 le an exchange fn toe tranecript viere Me. McCauley as
37 Ma. Maxell are going back ad forth and Ma. Mameell sags, you
Pret
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ur
Taetgios
1 keer eee solelig Lies pulls sepurle sid se sage, Tokio
7 there ina police repert. we gn ne IGT pages or an ie een
3 deporilion, wee iL ix €laar row Lhe Leasseripl Lal wes vo
4 get back to the police report fesse again, Me. Maxwell i: belie
I asked gucstiens by Me. Metavley. He. Mesawley says -- asd this
© iran pane 155, Titer 4 termi 3 = how teat vos Sawn ten
T pulive epost Lisl T stoves yuo Lids mosiiag Lisl joo ted en
uppertinity te lock at 1t,* and Ma. Mamwell responds, “Yeu gave
3 ih tema. © did con leok ak i. Ged there was ce really
10 olrer gimekioniog al Lie deponilion abocl Me: Mawel |i
1 keweledge ui Lise police zepuzle.
i” dn the record on thin die, your senor, whieh in
13 coin Le eoninn Lo ba Ln record, fn Lal We Maal] ha wo
11 kmouleage of tide police report, tie Livestation, ssytilig
17 that's going on with Mr. spetein sshstastively during this
16 ieveskigalion by Lv Palm Teac Police Jeparlmarls Go Lalla
Tr wg ile tol evmissible. They Ley Lo cobble Logelier vial Liey
1: view as sort of ducicls of she shoile Gave known bust wiat's
13 in thar police reports, av toy Tien at all say = un get
JE back Lo Leix Tersrouils Jolt selene cramer. ine, wien 1
21 touched on yesterday, but jei've godng to hear it again today
22 an i think e's wore: mentienize again. Ane here are the
73 woken eankly Trow Me. Darshedite! deposities
0 Mp Demecowile eumebusy wblecte sedis lide sepueltive, ess
20 then there's a collogsy. Toere's an assertion of privilege.
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1:
Taetgios
1 Tassels s Little BIL mere colloghy, sie Lies Me. Derenovile
7 saya: "Reis sn lone vine aan. My reeslleerios fn wha very
BERRI (Bah JT BS BY
1 the people who vere of interest to tie Glatriet attoriey ae to
I the federal gevormacit. That's my recollootien, And 1 vesld
© pe1y wank ko ereolun Aeihs i= Savor of privilean.t hee
To Me. Dessiowile seyei We ven vievh soebies. Tweed be demy
© to answer the giestien 12 it's net privilegec." That's the
3 testimony Kal they say supports teir asserkios of this jain
10 celetne soreemerL wile Alas Jersrosils
1n Bol Liwsete more, yuo Suir. Mi. Sucesse sped,
12 whe dn a party 4 eis depositien até er a lawgnr == shims it
13 be tre spesial master and Me. orseewils Wh. Geislaiee
11 Maxiell vas never tis target of tie duvestivativn, vas ener
17 confirming ad arguing that Jersiowitz is wresg abest this
16 Jeink deerme agrecwerk al Lia Lime. Fed Jarshowils is
Tr eomillicg Lial be dossn'L ceally bio ax ve shold creck ane
15 we'll get back aie people can ask these giesticne 5 I'm wrens
13 abe mir agreement.
» Treg alo Lave |iberly wil Me. Masel 1s ise snion
20 in ter depoaiticn abest her knovledge abect Wiat happened to
22 me. spsteis and what Be pled gxiley te. wees you lock at these
73 pager 07 the Lenereripl, vou keow, she rave, | keow be week te
1 all, ane tien toeze's a back ast sorts betvess Me, MCavley
37 and Ma. Maxuell ahost what £46 he go to Jail for, aid
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ws
Taetgios
1 wewalially Me. Mexvell ssye. jou kau, I'm sob really eure viet
7 been re Gail Tor. In ad somestitg te fo with, sh
3 Wks == MeL Mall == Loatage preskilbion or L-derage
1 prostitities or sometiing Like that. That certainly doesn't
I give you tic ability thes te ram iz 400 pages of ucorroherated
© Reaveay under thn iden than sowhou HRin An Sorin te femehody
¥ Bi T Lidok Lhees is vie lier _acloel vlan Lal Lisy
make abost, you know, viat Me. Maxvell shoslé have knows, widen
3 in vet the kadar. Th is oh incubate as idiida
10 celenial Lo go ireeslicale Lritgs. halts ol Lie slasdars
1n TL seems Lume Lal Lowy here cuivees Lal Lives
12 ommentz are Eearsay heeioe they're savisg, we're sor
13 nrtarivg Lem Tor Len Led oF bo miller arserlad; we wank Lo
11 uiier it ser tide keovleige tieory fast ve ave.
5 £0 1've briefed the issue abest business records,
Tien Lay are sol. The briefed Lie isa dboul sovermarl.
Tr police recorss, wich Liey ace police tecorcs, bol sseeslielly
1: the same tests Zor bisizess reverse applies to police recorss,
13 wmien ir, wn ave te be dar a buritaes Gi to reesnd Ho
20 ie ormalion, ano co.rl aber co.rl ler co.rl 4 Ler Go.rl,
21 across the country, has ead, pecple in police reports, like
22 witnesses, are mot under a husizess Suey as pare of the pelise
23 department. Ge all 0 Keone shabemehe, Gee seasde avd
41 dssnans deezeey eletemeile, sre liesnlecible, witier ac
37 goversmest records or police records of WiAtever yoi wat to
Pret
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Taetgios =e
1 call tiem. Toey'se Jiel simply lnecmiseible fur bie Lrith uz
© ten maneer asserted. ves Kew, there may be a Tee whites in
3 Lene police reports Lal somsona co ld, 1° ray had i record
1 cistedisn available, try to cifer fate evidence, bit ve Sen’
I have thar hexe.
z bm zo | RISE fhe al 6 teenn wearer, vir ener,
Lie de a very sleviy mobive Lisl shuns be grenles by Lie
: wre,
s Wi. MECHOIAY: Good aTkaront, your Coser. Task vo
iE Tr reason why Legh re balLlivg so bard on Lin
1 Coram de becase AU's su critical Lo lie vas. Tais ds «
12 police report thar reserds mameress, ever 10, sndereace mizrs
13 mavivg virk.ally ee col same slory Leal my oie gave abel
11 Ler sie, ver sie Ciera over again. Feat tay slen't say
13 to ge: —- they skirt arewnd Jetcotive iceazey. Yes have his
16 erbire deposilion Lessreripl, wrich we've “olad “or nel weak,
Tr wile all of his Leslimoty. Te Look Liese slalemsile, Fe werd
1: threige the bisliess Iecorde skeptics with him. He valkes
13 ferent, ver, | reaeréed thir i tin amine of my werk. Gatun
20 gol iL i= bur papers. T dhe rin Ler my dolys Tiberias
21 these witnesses. 1 recorded At, ete., ete. ete. all in thi
22 comment. 1 mean, with fvery dosment that's como up, they
23 alam, parkindarly govermet deck, Kis in someting
£1 that we've Zuon wit of tal: alr ane Liat AU hes fo value to At
37 or tristuertiizess. ae sat in his depoaitien as the detective
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1
Taetgios
1 who heciles Gide willoe Lovestigative eis velkes Liruogh sac
7 of thee prople, Your cptar, asd walked Hires Roe bn reaerded
BONCR REL AES AAR Ti WR
4 detective Tecarey, who le a witiess dn thls trial, on our trial
I exidbit list
H An be ery lear, thin domimest in fe AriEiel Beawien
TEL mesbivne Mamvell df iL. TU Lalke abu.l Masvell's slalivieey
© being at the heise, it talks about ether estes with respect to
3 Mawel. Weer 1 asked ber ak or doperitios avd | gave ber
1 hein decomrl — ave vol Gen look al Lie Leckimorye your Taran,
1 ve wail goo Lo look al Lie testimony ste says: Iles set
12 r. karer in thar depesitien, they talk ahest fer harelize mo
13 owar sve welt, Task al earlaie Liege 1 gave Rar, in Creel
11 other, Elgiti Bo tusze was an attitice lave wizlay thet
17 deposition that I had to mazage. And tEat vas vAAt was coming
To pin Liab seckion. Th wanstl Lal she didtl sey she ae sees
TEAL BL juor Tuner, we are alloved Lo pol Liab in Ceol of
12 Ler, dn Zrest of tie Jury, anc say: Dic goi know abuit tals at
13 ten time in 7005 whan ved ware photeqrapted Kise prtaic on
20 Le day bee ieverligalio sharled] Vo. ware warkivg ‘or rim
21 ene admitted that. Tou Gacn't Kuow abost all these little
22 girls cemize te thc palm seach hesse that yeu were workine at,
73 Keak you alaim ves ern Kea Reine meager Tori Ue sheild bo
4 bibles to get tude dn
tH Tas COLE That 43 for the trith of the matter.
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ai fe
fi ME. MCCHLEY: Musties sce hie ebuit it, Test's sot
© or he mh 0f we manner, yr conor. ants whan ste kere
1 all these detisiale dn the police report, Sid she Kio abot
© this. go that om be offered not Ser the Tita ht to shor
© urn on Yee abot ihe Menten cn Tene shan at Sn sin
Tab vas maha Lisl slelowesl, iL vas alse, bevaose sul wily
© cia my clisst get abused there but eo many other girls as vell.
n TE COT: Bein me.
= ne wintry aes
11 cvimeits. Se Glen't aitisiticets tiem Sn the swiss OF sapii¢
15 thar these axe pare of the file. | mean, it's Sot that kind of
v HE. MCHIT: TL de. ques Teer, Towre ace Low
1 eizzerest tukige, ase I'm Jumplig arene a Little bit, so
TE keamic my mle. merry. ih kere am a erin of
oir desigaticns where ve valbed threigh with im Gov Ge
2 emnuered the fmvestiearion, Sow Se resnnicd the infomation of
£1 toay vere seportas dn tide socamsts shove di ile testing,
7 fo that's ne piece. As that's why this cosld coms in snder
HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_011426
Taetgios
1 tie beelimes secorse sxempbicn, Sil even Lo AL wesen'l Lo cone
© in mer the Wusitess reesrds evenpriet, in cas ome §0 cer for
BARRISTER ARMA ATRIA a US TOR Vesti
1 Rut gos say dn your June Jth order, “Rotvitietasdlng the
I aestions are directed to reveal relevast answers Iegarédsg
© antredameis koelndgn af plaimtiTTe allegation, teat
heorlesge gues viseilly Lu Lie Leolh we saleily ue Lie
: cefamation, a key elemest of plaistizi'e claims.’ 1 stier
3 words, hal Wasenll Yeew ak Ke Line sRats makin Lhe sharewent
10 coms Lo Lee Lele of Lie Talaily of Lrose slalewssls, ae Leal
1 dale Lede pulive sepul, ons Sonus, su ve elise Lael
17 tts aritieal reidesan to stew thar. asd ell] ser rear,
13 again, see war working Coe bee deasdanh al Lo Lime teal Lis
11 snvestigatice appease. Soe Gas testifies to tab. fae vas en
17 the flights with him at the time this was gedzg on over 330
6 Limes drivg Leal period.
1 TOI COURT: Vou how, spere we Lie Sligile, okay?
1 ME. MOCRRLEY: fire. Okay.
1: He a Len Rear an bafern.
ET Mo. MCCAY: Gore. Tt sorry, your Teror. TWIN Ley
21 te ent to the chase here
2 an cereaizly, vou keee, it's interesting, heise ven
23 veard doanee anil Fora seh bea low age rayite beak Koy
£1 vestes to gel be police sepuile vi an ser sge mizur,
37 virginia Ginffre, from wien she vas 1, being raped by tue
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11
Taetgios
1 ties buge, sighl? 3it ow police sepuste ere sol alloves Ln
7 An all, Figtei a peliee report whore I've con the demearive
3 coming Lo besliTy aboul Lo police report, bral va Leak i vis
4 suvestigaticn, oh, DST that can't come dn. Amd what's
I iztercsting iz. they west threigh all of cur eases but they
© Tailed te look an tRniv ows mann, Beewice Smits, weiss inn
vase Lal Luey vile it Leis beies on Leyiog Lo vel Lis police
© reports in, a foithers District of bew York case, says tiat
3 weiss cows in. TL save, Wolatomesie i0 a police repent. are
10 tol itacmisible fearsay were, ax rere, Ley are col of eres
1 fer lie Lecls uf Lie mello ssswrled bol Zor potposes vf
12 sheeize whother the arresting effiser tad the infermarins
13 qivivg Lem probable mire in Aral felasen.t Go weal we are
11 sodng here, jeir Foner, le pitting Surth thle police repurt to
13 show whether or fot Maxwell had the kuowledge of that, whieh we
16 are elilles Lo web er Lose doeslions al Leal, your Tver,
Tr end Lo Lidice Luis pulive report ic Lil regare.
1 fo, gus Heaor, it comes in Zor the zeassie. One,
13 eden thn bearray cxeephie, wick in bea hiri-ann reaerds
28 esceplion Lire cr We. Recarapts Laslimony, which is celles i+
20 eux brieza, se vas deposed for a Till day. se valked threigh
22 all ef these domments dn hs dnvestieaties, and we laid eur
£1 kept do tes separ conser ui ne werk, Fe Leeliiles boat iL
20 vas something be had te do in accordance with that werk. se
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Taetgios
1 beeliiie Liat oe vee Lie primary antics oo Liab ase Lael it
3 we vere very Gire’.l, boise ve keen toe imperial, Lis
4 coment vas, to valk him thrcigh that wien ve had him at he
3 deposition. nd again, your senor, those dopeaities
© anrigeatiees are sen Tarts for est dedeeedey.
¥ THD COURT: uw we we kis Liab Lids is Lie Lolal
© recorss Or ds it tie total recozd? We den't know.
s WL MECROIAY: BAT, Seenrey beski Tied = wn shoued
TT mim Li cocomerl ax an wribiL 4 Rix Geporilion, av be
1 leelities seescios Like being sumelidog Lil fe secosses do
17 te mise of Sin ews work.
1” ACHAT Lb ite park oF bbe resend. Tx ik all a”
0 tie zecurst
5 ME. Meals: Meaning all of the resord of the entire
16 ieverbialion We uve prod.ced Leal i discovers, voor Cover,
Ti Luton Lie we have « TOTR tempos, which is for ve gol Lie
15 vicestapes of tiem walking Tiroigh toe Palm Seach hoses, all ui
13 ten ettar materiale related ko tha Sunchiganios.
» TL CHAT: 1 vee. hav.
2 ME. MeCMMLAX: fo Then, Jour senor, ve deposed the
22 deteative to trv, of coups, to establish thar this vas tie
a Tou Burr, liey elev metivies ens bide de
27 actually in the in tote motion, hut they Jumped to it so 1 feed
Prep
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1 to ssrves At, sid List fe wie 05 he wilissews Ln Gere, BE
7 mwas a mizor an the tine, alas gave a vennvéed Satmenh an
1 fn my view, vastly misrspresentisg the depesiticn. Ad yeu can
© look at vio gueves themsclves, bit she testified dn creat
LT —
¥ suit 3h dma secure sind Bh Lie akiu Spit wae di Sant
: curmest. ad sie de a vitsess on cnr trial list. fie de a
1 er estima ve fave soil Lo wiles Liab se a wilives i
FH Uhnimons: soning Yietin in dhe To fre mottos Wks
1 state they rates it.
Is ie ether issu they ralsed are the message pads,
Fr thru elise wile Ho Lk mgs pte. oe $455 4
1 nomber of ways. Tue ds Gian Alssal, vio de one ol the hoses
VE Sil a ee YR wi A Se
A sipavize, wee, tis ds Gov ve Tecorded cir message. se
2 whos ar the Smo. ene war Gin fury ta fo these thises.
A dboit teuse, yon kiwve vere ju naviig Luzes gizle vem vo tide
3% particiler day. ste. ete.s fo those are documents that sheild
HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_011429
Taetgios a
1 come Lote evlience Levees Ley have bees validates by on
7 employee who works an the howe asd ave ehises than sheild be
3 able Lo be LLilived al Leial, and Mawel] so.le be able Lo be
1 shown those and explain wether or not there lo some laste With
I reapect te thes sratemests.
H CE LJ
miles ab Lie Lebel, ans vesleiidy ve fave Sone ves vilivece
with respect to the police report to make size that ve do Lave
3 eneative Sessreyts Lestimony or TL 1 sbmil 07 yes review
IT Leal, joo will see Lie reson wy Leal iL sro ld come ito
1 eeidenoes 3b fegarcless ul Lie featssy desc and lie boskiess
12 reeores xncptien, acaiz, as wes sald 47 yer aime Toes
13 order, Lee poieh 0 dateedaskis kouladge al Le Lim she mide
11 a cetamstury statement de very elgniiivait Ln tide case, so i
13 she kuew — eves if she €idn't belicve my aliest, if aie knew
6 Lal bare vad boss a saber of elven Ldar-age wisors Lal
Ti vere abised in Leis clrcomslence, Lo cell my clissl « Lise is
15 the Zace 02 all that knovlespe de sumetilng the Juzy esvils be
13 Abin te menridnr. se than in a pines Kean in feportanh ao
JE relacash Lo Leis came. Red yo. cat alas Give a co lionary
20 metrietien. 1F you're concerned at any level, as you Kaew,
22 yo: anil ae a caztienary dmstrictinn with respest te tie
73 polis roport. Suk wn roild be eekiklad to ark ber murkions
1 on the clase von stele Licer valk abut vial eae kiww with
27 respect to this very sigrificast dosamest.
Pett
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122
Taetgios
1 Taek you, york Tenet.
7 Wi pai: ariefly, yor otor
3 So Tirek, wares doing @ wi avd malar Mare of
1 Giizerent tinge, whlch I Like the rile: of evidence becaise
I they're rales and 1 oan road them ad they aay what they say.
H seen 1%, uns 5, ge had a pld-plated renord
T Geelusian stem Lie Palm Seach Pulive Depacbmesl vom it bere
2 anc make all of the Finiige that you needed to Zinc as a
3 Buritess record sveophios or i counremerl. record csasphios, Khe
10 cane La ix abrol Lely clear Lal secondo and Lbirsans Sesrsay
1 de dnesmicelble Lizuogh police sepoile.
1” | zee this rxample beaxiin 60s a goed ere, | tRiTk
13 Re part oT wy praciice, | repress. people aea.red oF arines,
11 ais su ve get lecorery as part of my practice. Giese wnat?
13 iat gees dzte ny files asd L keep it a: a matter of cours,
HH RoE SST. Fags? HEH
Ti coorse. Fev Lial dossn'l meas Lisl iL simply wo ld gel
1: acmittes dite a trial viele cloth Zor tie Erith of the matter
13 amearted, Gut bein inte a busicans reeerd of wie. aed
20 wry? Wealtn Ure avscer? Tecdove Lee slalewals Leal are
21 smeluded in the police report, ox the discovery that i get,
22 what 1 pot dn ww file and 1 keep very sarefzlly as a business
73 reenrd, dosti magia ly become sesarray, beanise Ln paople
41 vio are making Lives elatemeile are fol Lace: any bueliwes Goly
37 to report tome. And that's what the busizess record exsepticn
Prep
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1 deeld amit, These de taistiurtibiess vies cums, Jos
7 Wore se FE nn BATH rear oF win, Shanthi ESAT
4 the hatn of tie hearsay Link has te be Snider a bisiiess ity
© to epert. so there awe ences where sfficers axe allowed to
¥ Ming whowtesit them wi ssubbbr wilive Lube Lim wi LL vaso
© test that magbe happened vithin tie police cepartaeit. Sit
3 rah aeytre “of allowed te talk abet, der a binieen ronnd
TE SA ATS TIA aS
1 Ne Meaney vests Lo Ley te Lilies Lo to Jury 4 tds
12 ease == 27 pages of witsess statomests from people win wn des’
11 sssesiaticn wits Me. Meveldl.
Is Let me SHnish wird thls state of mind Less.
1 enceptiva?
Mo TAGLIECR It coils be, Joiz Serer. fu 101is
won ie Sh, Wa te se Te, vy, 4
Fe reparks etd gel bey Bl, “Bh Loe Sears part
a HA BAGLINGRT Sxantly. That's exactly Hight,
= a Er Wel, okay. 6 corse int he plaintiss
a ME TRGLICGR: Weld, tows yui'ze zecectisg
28 percent
SUA TITTY ARAN, Puc.
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Taetgios Be
1 THD COURTS I eden'l say secection. ITU's ieareay,
© ints men being aTTnred, bin of airee in is beivg effneed Tor
1 MAL DAGLILCR: Sxactly. Yeu Kiow, this ds a
I smokescreen abest it gocs te Mawerll's state of mind, asd when
© yes AareSilly gn tRreieh Kees pelinn reperkr, Benen in Son an
Tun Lise alleged ciclime vio ideslioive Me. Marvell ss baviiy
anything to do with any of thie. Which de another important
3 poith
1 Deal Tine cries, agi, Me MCmelay ally says
1 liste are £0 viclime Sveslioied bn lisse police fepotle, wich
12 mtr erie. ane whe | asked cteative deearey te on threes
TE bee i me ae asl Ty ew may people Re sis were Cieling,
11 there vere 10. Rie ev nev tesey sie sal Giese vers 2. So
13 she's werkizg her vay my way, sit, yes know, that's the
16 problem tere, voor Teror. Weis ix being o”larad Tor Lie Leis
Ti ol Lhe meller ezserle BLL Luey ves Lo co is gel is feel of
15 a jury that tere vas a pelice cepartmest investigation in
13 which dprrnic wan the target ad petals in allaged te have
76 come all of Lrexe bac Lringe; Lrere ore, yo. sro. prise
21 maxwell because then they're yelig To say, she vas his
22 girlfriend, she had te have known, vada, vada, vada, vada, he's
73 ow bad parses, shals a bad parses, Titd hor isble, ad whack
41 eer vite a big damage avarc, Thal'e wiat's gods un eres
tH Hnask yo.
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1:1
Taetgios
1 THD COURT: Waals ext?
7 ML GRRL en monies 0m ellen and Mari keva, mi
3 mole Lo gel i+ adverse i+ Taran
1 TH5 cou Yes
E Mi. GASES LZ 1 oan be heard on ThA, OSE asier.
z Be A emien me. ek me gn bask ko wRnrn un
: Ticse statements, the statements of the "icting," are
3 being eTTered Tor the Grid, are they cot
iE MIL MGERIST: Tour Toror, T do “ol believe Liay're
11 being uiiered cor Lie Liils because viel wee sali we're
12 zor saving whether or cot what these wierims said was
13 meesssanily bree. Uatee sayiee wan she ses Ll bears vers
11 aimber ane taey take lesie with toe saber. 1 een't ses a
17 difference betwoon 17 and 30. Sut was slic aware That there
16 were a mbar of olen ivdividals mibivg roporls al. Le Lime
Ti ete seit wy cliesl meal fave bees Lyitg abo.l beitg abies az o
1: miner. fo uietier or not those are trie or tot, the reports
13 war she mene Ran thers warn shar of reparts in Hearn
20 rom obrar 1iLLle Girls savicg Leal Ley wars alse bro.grl Lo
21 the massage zoom. And That gees to her state of mind at the
22 wime she made thar statemest whers she defames my alien
73 imtereationally.
a THT COURT Yee. Bob avare of tie zepurte. How voila
27 she be avare of the reports: Avare of the girls asd tie
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ai we
1 activity, that's the Gite, Bt vase ui the sepste.
4 Ger testimony fo that ste verkss for Spatets xem the easly
3 this until 905. Ths dnvesticatien tock place dn 2306, yeux
© ror, dieing thn amen 5% thn tian sh wan Al oantly mamarieg
¥ bin Paki Sean bom ai di swkive emeliyee, Khe Sight hav
t peresi. fo yes, uf oizes, ve sheild be able to ask hex those
VE SER, TER GO AL USA SRP Wt
3 pu howe as peat ul Usk davestigelion? his Lows sie vas
FI ed owl ahin Her the Kepsrts aid says vers Jeu avere uf tiem
15 hut ear weslé or cet the hearsay pare iz.
Tr Lew wtowr ul Lie sephivia, Lie baiiees teers waceplivi,
1: unten ve talks abost, sis ve also sotices this as use of toe
VE Ra ny
2 weak cosnsel ds currect under the bisdisss recerés
2 eentien, th SetivTics oF the men and wat they fie, all of
A set toe statemate.
% MEL Menavbax: fo for example, ce of the vitissses on
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Taetgios 5
1 uer viliees Let de BE, veo de dn Lie soporte sie Leeliiies
3 TE CHURT Wall, Walt a i TCarenl isee. Red vo
1 said geitre else to present her
E BE BoGaNLE! Ica.
Po Geesbiun Bel di lies verde, gue cued shor Ger Lie sepuil
and ask her Af ale’s avare of tiess eperte. 1 assume viat her
3 areunr ir goitg te ba. Bed Kakln the and eT ih
iE MOL MGERRIST: Dell, oor Toror, T wes, obeioosly
IL vers dike Lo wiles Lie sepuile der Lie boeliess secon
12 rxeeprinn threset demarey and threes the residual beara --
1” A COURT SL sven 17 yo do Leal, Tenth san Row
1 yes avele elimizaticg tis beazeay.
5 well, kay. all rigr.
1" MRL PRGLTUCR: Your Tovar, cold T huve ove Tieal
Tr comment ut Lids. To Liey're sol beitg olleres lot Lie Leolt of
15 the matter assertes, toey'ze really Sot zelevait fo tals case
13 irom Tima) poict, beemiee iT thayten cet beicg ofTared far tn
28 Ler a Lee miller asserbed, al bask iL a ce.Lral a bo
21 whether these Tilnge Sid or GaGR't happen. AI they didn't
22 mappes, they wesld srrtaizly he sipportive of He. Hamenll's
23 hake 0 mite iT she keow abedh Wom. 17 they're ok boitg
41 uizeres fur tie Leth uf Lie matter
tH Tau COLE Mell, 3 might be material that she knew
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1:
Taetgios
1 thal tiers wae an duemsliyation.
7 ML PA: ves kee, Se aild be asked Ran
BALI WE ye Be Lore a RRO TARE
1 she's pelt to say ne. 1 gave joi her aifidavit in wales she
I said pricr te making her statement, she had sever seen vhces
© pelimn reparte. an wn all koe ——
¥ TOD COURT: Teal's & ioierent goeslivi.
: Mi. DEGLIVGA: I nderstaid. Bit ve all know the
BARE, RAYS ARR RTI Topas, HE NY rey ie
10 arn Lael ied ak Pur depos iLion Lal are wesetl cast ly andre of
1 Unie doeestigetivn, BLL ste kee 1 ledk de viel soe
12 terrified to == was that sprtein west fo dail acd she keew ar
13 nome pail be wan a regiskorsd re eo Cnedar. Weose ara Lee Le
11 thlage 1 tlnk she Kiew at the sic uf the cay at tale
17 deposition. Anyvay, | agree with ye: that the guestien, éi
16 ve. bow Liars was an invasbicalion, vo. beow, T sppore vo
Ti car eck Lal goeslivs are Lie ansver vill be jes of fo,
1: vhatever it de.
1: we a okay.
ET WAL BRGLIGCR RIV righL. Trath vo.
2 Tau cou Okay. A'm sorry. rergive me fox
2 smteresprize.
a WAL CRAG Re. Your pakicras Ran bee approciabed
41 teseye your Huser.
tH 1 wast to address new the Mareizkeva and selles
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Taetgios Be
1 aciezes diereice molluie, We're o muciig party. These aze
7 vemipronn] merines hott ways om Rin. | have the Sumber
3 avaiable, 4 aL vould bo Laat). T belie £13 bn bre
1 Gefendant’s motion ane 636 a cir metien. fo those weil be
I the tee motions geizg, ohviesely, in differest directions.
z wir por i Tamiliae with than insine heevise of
Lie Speleit adeezes dfsrsive moliv lial ves argos T Lick
tes veeks age by me, axc at thst time 1 know you have net
3 ven Termilly Filed on Lhe mekion, Bil Khare wan shan ive
10 heeianion abosl colle we Joh Kick bin dew Lie reed Lo Lie
IL Liiel si see, yon haow, wel Spelein says ob Lil Lime sis,
12 we: keew, after be testifing, sere eur whether there's as
13 aduarne Petersen Renin, ye. est ded on Luk, bo T
11 think I fnelatec at tie time fiat certainly from Me. Giuizze's
13 pednt of view, ve wexld have mo chicotic to handling
To Mel Tpelein in Leal way. Tomek Lo mabe clear Luk ve vould
Ti ales face to objection Lo taselisg Lie Marcinhoce axe elle
1: deste dn that vay as well. You can pit tiem on via cepoaitic.
13 ane then wn anid sort mi in EA evtavh af ta cane wits 8
2 11 record wrelrar ar averse i+ ares i3 approprisle. Tl
21 ve surface the dase for Jou Sew sc AT wealén't be something
22 yout have te dn on the fly dn tho middle of trial. and all
23 ke allogabiees, oF course, Keak Mave boos made bere, 1 Kick
0 Abe dmportent te pub Tellen si Herclibore vi Los conepliecy
20 scheme, if you will, The tep of the conspiracy is Mr. spatein
Pept
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1 Gls ight fens player Liss de Me. Mewoell, sist dn tie
1 the coreplracy's next echeles Lo Selle ad Maretshova.
H asd zo Zor example, 1. GisSEre Sas made allogatiess
© about certain thing. we. Wael] mate vember or dnsine
¥ Mien ow 0 nie Ba, Gluiicn Lins duvke Us wussebuiats bes
: allegations of a cosepizacy, aie the frat perscs sie gues to
10 Lebret pespte Ll wow gone be ar Tabb av Werth,
1 beces lie caput dmmecitely to Ne. Mewsld Ls toe
12 peeopiracy. ac Mn. GIST io grins te he talkig hei thar
11 putin to vencer, weld, gust, Tuer Het Selden says abit
15 thats 1 under var mrsiskera sae about thats nd peur
FI lkiiy Tog ere svssiog: seevive Gn ed vier Te
12 cltimetely fas to come to gos Somer to get alteriative
15 roreinn, avd in wr ely ak tah pale tan wn worn shia te
2 dspesiticss few, sd hat ve Gear from the defense, if 1
So umdzesrand it, 47 Sar wr dent ave a cesé-Seits basis Sor
£1 sex tresthokiog sis evk abies onsplsacy? 1 thlik the vay they
ST put it in their brie is, all of this evidence shows sothisg
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Taetgios i
1 Uther Lien Me. Maxwell might seve bess sl Li ame plece ot Li
7 name mime. IRs fuse, ver koe, a Rappesaraen they were in
Be ame place aed Laks col admissible. Ball, vor Teor
4 will notice fn oir opening bried on this, at pages 13 1 thik
I through the SONt ton pages oF G6, we'Ve gone thEGNgh with a
© amare aE unten maid, ekav, Sereln tie mieskies un asked, anf
To Lien de Lie sighl fend cela be ves wharl ve pel ds Lie
© witnesses and, you knew, the Lieut lege. 1 kuow other thlige
3 beak your Toor fn wary Tamiliae with. THs in why eatre
10 anbing Liane goesbions. Yoo bow, Lie 1g logs Fave bee
IL Labhes sbunl res ei bees apelin, bol sus dus feasun, Sellen
12 7 on some of these Sliche Ings, até whats uni Toes are tho
13 auasliees Lal wn arked, av oF ao.ese she Lakes Lee TEL
n Taeze are tier talige ae vell. For exemple, Saran
17 sanseme testificd, | witnessed vith my own two oyes faral
16 Teller reporkivg Lo Grixlaive iv Cronk 0” ma, bul T arth
Ti remember speciiics. Trey weeen'l Lelking bool giels, Tcan'l
15 remember tie speciiic ceivereativn, bit every siigle perec,
13155 paresr, 750 parmecr, reperted te iRislaice. later en in
PE bral ame deposilion —— Leal wes al. page 788 avo Lreredbo.ls
20 atopage $27: 1 witiessed the same thing all the girls
22 did == the same thize 1 tad to do was on azé report te dark
23 alles, berlin Groat, ard Wislaive Muswell. (eislaice wan ten
£1 meds lasy. So evedn, we sere en allegation by va clieal tiet
27 Ma. Maxvell vas a part of a larger conspiracy. That's ee of
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Taetgios Be
1 the veilzal desiwe, ui vuizes, dn Uae vase. One of Lie lalige
7 tran was ealled an cheinun 196. and ne wn wanr tn Brite in re
3 comcorspiralors and ar Lom, MeL GiLTTRs says vo. vers i i
4 conspiracy and what's your side of the story oh thats Rud they
I take the sifth. so there we arc. The cucstien is, are wo
© amity te mnmanal teat Trem te Gury er avn wn Geiee te preeeh
TAL Lo Liew? Meld, Lie Sevens Ciec.il vase lial jue Tuur de
© well Zamiliar with, MABittl, sets cit the Zactors that Lave
10 celenal in ob, Lis Sever bees applied ic 4 cane like Lei
IT woud Joel sheecl joo ableibive, se Tis sedis Loe Speleds
17 argmesr, te the eaze af Sis w. SiEclity © epenit to. of
13 Marlene. Walt a THOU Ciredit case rom 1333, in wine
11 bank eizieer vas acvises of Slehunest ane Tzauilent acts as
13 king of bogus leans, and the Fifth cizeuit allowed sifeh
16 wedmsrl ivocilions Crow La leas recipierls Lo ba Led
Tr apelel tim, teesonizg Liab, well, is Lids ise of o cee, Lie
12 collusion tien de show by the FAZth Mmenoment Lnvocativs ui
13 ten participate io the sempiraey tern. VET dmesdwes,
PE irvocalions cur be mali dgainil somes rely doc.ced Lo ba a
21 part of that conspiracy, which of cviree ie exactly wat ve
22 nave geizg ex Bere in a mivil eoztest.
a WIN, by Kn way, Kee Seord Giri ears, wie in
41 cuntrollisg dn bide Jalesivlive, sevrably cites tie Tite
27 pirenit case in #10 v. sidelity § deposit co., explaining that
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1 baat de vie uf Lie teseuie oy dn Lie Seven Clrcidt tiey tadsk
BRR A RE Tay SR SE SRS SE TR RR
4 Aid LASITES hen gues Gh 4s Ji Soser a well
3 familiar, with laying est Ses difforest factors. ho fret is
bondi of ie pelt sbin medion, the, rebioesin ban
tds ue eepicalote. Tesy'se Li Lie bwesiele Sed eielud oo
© the conspizacy. They are cirect reports in the bisizess sense,
10 Serr avs ar Font eporla te We Meslls OT cour Len
1 vusepiecy wilioes. Tbs ds sb Jeb ab Lie Lime of tines
7 JPET SU SOE WP SE WE 1
11 Uhile ve vers trutne te bats thelr testimesy Lest year,
15 sveseially they show op with Lawers, 8 swice seisiare J thick
Tr Mh Suluteegee, whore an ablucoey ioe Meo Taleb cons Toye
1 both mace signiivast sifurts te svace service. Wig? Becaiss
T= mir vine thn eeopivany ehiinr ta Kin dav. To
I lords over an extended peried of time. Tie ccoealmest
“2 eatimes thames ie efforts mee nly of the defeséut hr
a Bit tisets moe tat bizce tiem topetiss wees Loney:
57 we sencr is of conse familiar with the Sonpresesitics
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te
Taetgios
1 apreemet Liable al lie beasb on lide wesw. Semeaber Lis lees
7 tran en were alkicg shou yesterday. The sosproseeinins
3 greemstl save Lo We. Tprlais, wa will ol prosac le yo, or
1 any potential co conspirators, or, and then there were Zour
I zamed indivicials. Teo of thes named individuals are
© Maraiskaun ad nllen. in tryin Besed becerser asd Rave
Toms iilesesl i Leyiiy Lo pressive Liab fospruseolivs
© agreement, which meas, of coirae, attackiig people wie are
3 attackicg kre oprosecitios agrecmett, sin ar dae ea 3,
1 Leal in my elierl, Mel Gil res
1n Bi lial de Lie Zizel factor, Lie selize ui lie
17 relainnstip there. vers igtely bese
1” Wl RT NL Rr WR. SAR Va
11 party nae vestes tie Gunparty witiess dn sevars to hey Sacte
17 asd tae general subject matter of the litigation. rhat's a
16 diel cole Crom LiTLLLIL Red lve evidence bare — and gait,
TET wntU belabur all ul Lie CLighl logs asd speciiic evivesce,
12 bit 4t's recites, you kiow, in a ten page chart in oir brie:
13 4mlian and marnickous arn wary tigely beisd wits ton
JE eaanie. Treg are ivach reporls. Tray are workise closely
21 together. 1 ut guoted Ma. ianseme saying, you Kew, that
22 ehat was the person that they wero talkine te, azé so ved have
73 a very sigei Tien deren oF aothrl.
a Tie tides cector Zzom LAS.tUL Le compatibility of
27 isterests. lerfect compatibility of interests here.
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m
Taetgios
1 Me. Giiiire hee sabe liere vas o conspiracy dnvelviag all ui
7 theen imfividsala. they're all anite te say =n, here wash
3 REI rave a Leial on Wal and hear Lr Gidea. ul be
1 compatibility of interests la, that team is agalzat
I me. Giaffre. Teese co-conspirators are all working Togeticr te
© trv te umdnrmin the AreRiBAliEY 0 MeL GHUTSRe. and nf Asien
To Lbey'es all hupiiy Lieb ste will dues Lids Leial, vic Liey
will then celebrate as a victory, OF cores if Ma. Giuifre
3 wine whe Leia), they wi] a1] 2iTTar a deTenk beaaine her
10 cracibilily in mabivg Louse al legabions will fave beet
1 eetablicies.
i” Toe Zizal Taster Limited fireors gen te eesiider in
TI hea rela in Le ederlyivg arpeels 0 Lea 1iLigakio, and
11 again, Ate hare to imagine. 1 Wea't say tip are tie mest
17 importast members of the conspiracy. apsteds is the mest
16 iwporbasl wewber of Le conspiracy, bul Lia sacl worl,
Ti imprlenl, aller Mesell, who's Lie Sober Loo posiliv, Lie
15 next most importait conspirator is Sellen asc Marcizkova. I've
13 end tea expression bafere, i6' Kite nf plavicg amlen with
28 Le grosl. etre soit Lo be Lilbise dbo l a conspiracy
21 withest the conspirators in the case. We are trying to bring
22 whe aecopiraters hore in fret of tht fury se that tity san
73 hear weah bee avepirators Rave be say whos arked cienhines
£1 ebuit weet tiey were sulig to Me, Sliiize ese viel Liey veze
20 doing te similarly situated yossg girls.
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12
Taetgios
1 Tae final podil tial tie LABLLLL veer sliecte jus Lo
© eensider i werter agmitnicg te ceideean will advaten ton
BHR as SE EN CV TA
4 that tem sot as a lawyer bt as a lagperec for thie purpose.
I webator's defines to conspire meass to join teeTtier in a
© renve sneeemest th fp an ulaetil or wremgSil ack or an ask
To nin becomes silevood gs a fesodl uo sscrel ageeemil, Bid
ove vast to preset the conspirator. Now ve think that makes
3 bee anne thak Win ix Righly relesash and alse appropriate Tor
10 an adeerze 14 erence. gai, oor Totor cool wail Lo role or
1 lake al Lrial, bol ve Leds Ils clesz val sow
i” 2% anna pee ni dntermie tar somettine's
13 relevant, yo. ror Rave Le eaeridar possible pre) dicial
11 emzect. bvloiely thls la a case bn waden sex allevativis are
17 going te be at thelr heart. It's set like ve have a business
16 imple ware somebody warls Lo Lirow in sas ubuze. We wal. Lo
Ti prove, ite vase livoleiig a ses corspitacy, wel Lie
18 conspirators Gave to say. Reo tiere's Se prelieice toes to
13 Mawel) in pe remen ef uta projudinn. 6 aan ark whatever
20 ueslions Leer ceen appropriale as well. Tol Lee ubievce
21 the eo conepiraters is of coizae highly preiidicial to
22 Me. ciuffre. wavsrally the Suv is ening te wexder, ves said
23 lon wan roporkivg bo Mowall. Wars ix felled Manis
£1 gulag to be tie Slat Lidig Laey'Al cay ween Lisy vo beck Lito
37 the Jury room. Where are these peoples Ad that's wat
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1:
Taetgios
1 they're pulor Lo say 45 ve sun't have en oppurbiadly Lo preset
3 Tre Court will rac Le os Lraordi sey Tarlts Lo
4 which Me. SLuIIre Gad te gO to procize thelr Testimony. They
I zizally were able to scours it, asd they sheald be preseated.
z Mra == Rink ges t1] be Searing tiene dries seen
Towmek we eed sume leaiig goeslivie sing Lie depueilivi
We tried to ales wee some nosleacing. Leading giesticne can be
10 perky or Low olbar side: Bally we sai Loagtee ia
1 cunepiiacy. 1 cen'l dmeclie «vase viese Lise voids be o
17 learer example of wes leadite eiesrioss ile be appropriate.
iE Moe Thal argument, ey wade, TREE lank sigh in
11 thelr Late replies va: that ve somehow misses tie ceacliie Ln
17 vaking thelr depesitien. What they den't édselese | thizk dn
16 Lain papers ix, your Toror will recsll Luk we hud Lo cons Lo
Ti joo oblait an spplicelivs Sor allecralice service, en Lien,
15 as a result of that, they came dn. Oe Sic all toss talnge
13 wins tea Goirnts Blersicg ad approval of kakisg deperitie=r
20 Troms cred. les vere cisc.sses vile opposing co.nsel. Red un
21 soon ae we'd taken the depositic, ATL approximately a veek,
22 wo provided the desienatiess, That was hack in robriary ef
23 Kein year. Wearats a projudiee.
a fo Zor all Uieee zeacore, ve voile ack that ve be
37 allowed to presest two of the co-conspirators in the witiess
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1m
Taetgios
1 bux ede bie cdees sepueilivie Liat we've Laken,
7 ML PsA | tegen | was back te my old dave an
3a pablic detandar wren T slarled Lee praclice of lie, vo.r
4 menor. Wow I'm argaing an 2016) (2305) meticn fstesd of a
I defamation case.
H | Bek wn Ravn fe Sra wits ton semie teat in tein,
Lieb lide de 4 deoamelivt vase if vic Me. Mamvell is alleged
to have mace a cefamatory statemest in 2013. In that
3 dnTamitory satemeri Me. Maven] dons “ol. menkio any of Kren
1 miei ane cones tL weLion Me. Tprleit, at so Lie
1 slerlisg peist cor Leds ds, ide de sn eslizely ioiesesl dese
12 han mr. vasael] ad Riz fantastisal entapirasy aremmest ere.
iE TF wn nk ko slick Le te egal insan ie Lie cane,
111 talsk ve Zlret ness te uieeretaic that tere le actially a
17 speoific rile of evidence that relates te co-conspirator
6 rears caoplion, av Lal ia Sule S0106 7) oF Lee Tedaral
Tr Roles ol Seitesce, ane signiliceslly, cer Lael tle ane
12 thle de wey the cases velng Tale 2006862003) Sie dscdeds of
13 bristusrtticarr in comeomrpirator eareay shatomnsts == beep
P0 are wise al or curing Le cores ar i= clearance oF
21 conspiracy. snd absent that finding, statements of
22 premesspirators are deemed to he hearsay.
a So sak weteo kalkicg abaik Fore are “oh skakocehs
1 prpertecly meos by any of liser dncivieiale dn 4050 or 201
27 we've talking about statements that they are seekicg to (a)
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1:
Taetgios
1 dilzusics ue 03] asiesenly literence Lisl ase made Lo 201: Liat
7 bag martieg tn dn with any alleed amines of or = Tirtterates
3 ot uw comspiracy. Bev alloged conspiracy wo.ld Fava Larmiiled
4 gears age by cperaticn of may eiiferest rile asd lav. go
I mr cassell's extire cozspiracy thicery predicate te thls Gas
© metritg fe de wits ten fer Livni asters
¥ Ro viet ve Lalk sbu.l Lie LiSolli —avlute, yon kav,
there ie really sere evidence that's been presestes to yosr
3 Corer. Tiesk of all, tre relationship sow, in 7217, Babess
10 Leese Ereicitials — becaire Lal in weal Lie corlrol Ling
1 relalivietdp de, Gol sume selalivietip Lisl happened vr sil
12 kappes dn 2555 er 2501. an dn the relarinzship durize the
13 moueme eT kein Titigalion, ol rows etree 1ikigakion. fed
11 sneess, tiers Le Go relaticienip betiess tosss Solke. At bet,
13 Zor a brief period of time, a brief pericd of time, ticse folks
16 orks in di Tarenl capaeilion Tor We. Tpslais, al bel, ae
Ti Leal briel period of Lime is more Liar Let jeats ato.
1 Tae Stier part of tals tat Mp. Casewll cverlooks ox
13 donenth wank ko talk shout in whan really ir an nein m= an
26 Lin ralules Lo Lis close prece-l. relaliosnip —— cess Lrix
21 witness have some reason to protect Me. Mamvell, 1 mean,
22 what's really the dneuiry here. 1s the witsess fnvoking her,
73 ie Amin mane, privilace agaiseh sel isorinicabios bears ihe
1 golig to have sum benesit to Me, Maxwell? Mell, tisze de fo
37 benefit te Me. Maxwell Zor the invocation of the Fifth
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1 Emessmet pelillege Gere bececes lisees, 10 Lies viliceses
7 were te resriTy prinily, the teanimecy weil be heeefisial
3 Le me. Mawel)
1 TE jos ever gE The CPPORTILALY To vateh the vides of
I those tee witnesses, your seser, it's romarkable beowsse
© tmeratn a lok 0% oye relling ad Tamia] svpressines in peepee
To Le Lhe Leasiag goeslivie by pleislio's Levyess Lie, dsomy
: avalysie 1 may be testifying, your Zener, 1 mist acmit, Sit
3 in my obreruntion, iL wes basically a somuarbal TRante Sol
1 Leet an Les Lie ireocalion of Lie TEL Taescmacl privilege,
IL an dn Liab gels plage cus Lie Jig, Lie Joy ven see Lisl ue
12 wean ser it. ar me point Mo. Bedaeley chided ene of rhein
13 wiinansar aes nid somelhing 1ike, yo. beow, 17 yo. keep dein
11 viet guntre slip, Velie geist to have te Go senetidiy eles
17 besser she dida't like the facial expressiess or the werds
16 Wak be wileass wan xivg Lo invoke Le TCLS fmasdwerl,
Ti privilege, Thel's bow me Lise Colke vole telp Me. Masel
12 bit can't, ans they can't becaes they're protecting tosis een
13 imharnshe. Teevtrn cet profackieg He. Maveell' itereshs.
28 Meaytea worries Ural 1 Lea plaichis le lagers x eens in
21 Florida, tiey have ome threat of proseciticn, io they're net
22 ening te testify. sit again -- and this is, again, a peice
73 kak neoms be br overlooked by plaishi TT aeuenal == Arana bee
4 fsledeiale are lntees named Li tile sospruseviticn agreement
37 by name. Me. Mawvell is fot, asd Mi. Maxwell didn't chocse to
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Taetgios
1 deeuke ber TLL Bmesomel pelellege, She shold’ be
7 penalized hearin the people who are eavanreed asd are samedi
Bin orprosac. lion agreement intl Lesli Ty bac se Le
4 plaintiiite lawyers are trying to ace thelr agreement vith the
I goverment.
H MeL Wavel] man cn SRilikY to castro] Heese Tolks
To Yeo iow, ve verleinly versa'l guise Lu lane it Lie vay un
: plantifz's trping to take their depreiticas, bit ve have fo
3 corteal ower tom, in seciritg Eoin testimony or rein
1 brew Lo cooperale in any seein,
1n Tile Lo Lie Cust Liv vase vo Coolie Toveslmeile ©
12 erisrein, whist | Aime realize word] | waz reading this lash
13 sige i ireeie because Lee detedasl io Lee Sokesteis aie in
11 Mr. Sevarce! Sommer partier, wio's solig oi years Lo a Seceral
17 penitentiary right new. Sut in that case, whieh is very
6 similar ara, Ure courk vo.ldetL inpese an advarsa i area
Ti apeliel an emplojer lor an emplojes, eves Lough Lie ewploger
15 vas paying Sor tie repreesiteticn of tie employee. Rio thet
13 mann ir 0 ERIK signi Sinan beavicn ten Amirt agais Temioed or
20 La relalionarip al bre Line of Ln ceposilio wn val. sows
21 price relaticneiip.
22 I talked best the se-senspirater issue. ves kaow,
1 uno. Fo ene hes weer Zuine tial tees Zolke are
37 co-conspirators. It's Mr. Cassell's and Mr. svards' thecry,
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1:
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1 bib AL certelidy de sel siglidig thet Lies de gulag Lo be ay
© veal meinen abou in tein case
3 Tre nel Leo WILLE Taelors, Lia sel one relates Lo
1 any isterest in the citeome of the litigation. Again,
I mr cassell has to masifactire seme interest here. These Zolke
Tare on Aetesdashn in thin maze, thane wikeerser. Peng Rave =n
Po ineiviel dileiesl. Tey face so Lise. Taser de io Juisb
defense agresment. Tiere de no indemsifivaticn agreement.
3 Meare br sekkic. Thay have abel italy me deg i hin Tigh,
1 again, wien be ve delaras be Abe iLigalio
1n Tisze's Just really solblig hal would allow say
12 adverse inforenes iz shiz mane ane way or fhe orien.
iE Tally, voor Toner —= wall, les Sisal poitie. Wee
1 gestienig, jes know, the BIg of Gestion tat vere posse to
17 ties witsesses vere precisely the kind of cuestiens that have
16 bee disapproved in Le Second Cireuil. Red Lealts feiskis
Tr Teese. Cily of Few York, which is it Lie pepetss MorleCom
1: fecizity Litigation, alse in the papers; ane LASittd itasli.
13 Wenea are on tecteinal ebiackios. In sarees 0 legitimate
JE ecivanliary porpore Tor a layer Lo coms i an ximply ask a
21 very bunch of highly charged, leading gestions to videh they
22 kane the witzess is ening te say, "I take the vifen. there is
73 ve ewidestinry ball advasend wikh Kore minhions, bears ihe
1 Jiet Lawyer argument tial cosen'l so asytodog Cer anpbesy. So
23 both sides could ask a hundred questions, they could hots be
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1 leasing, tig cools bulh be skact oppusile goratione, Tae
© iteenser wna say the TES to enrveticg, ad hes yen look
BL re fev ane vo. av, okay, tow vo. Ga impons ar adverse
4 snfersnce avatiet aujbecy Joi vant to based on the giestices
I that the lawyers asked, 1 mean, that's really what this cade
Tip baite, aE nln a wares oF hime, meR IR 47 0F =n reifeeniaey
Po sidoiveie
: Tien the last point, widen I'm Just guing to teed to
3 corrach We. Carell of, Khe plaiehi Te ware mavieg somos fu
10 ve vere iLimely 0 tol dexicralisg porlions of Lise
1 cepusilivie wnich ve believe ate violly dissmissible, st toe
12 peize of oir reply was, wait a mimite, yes didn't desigate acy
TI oT En Lerkimey LED AThar ba desicualion dala wa over
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1 ME. TAGLINE: fvunlinoes] 1 wua'l vere abut tial,
7 hn, yen keow, | mean, entre isa te deal wits teen fassen,
3 av wer) deal wil Lom so bea Liming ia 07 “0 Gemsen.ece Lo
4 me, bit Um net complaining aboit it, I'm Jet zesposiin to
ES
H it Sor tiene reazem, yur cnmor, ge reeset alles
mbes Lu preseil any asveser diosisive com Lisss wiliesses.
¢ Tey should Zot Just be part of tile trial. Thank yun
s WAL CRSSL 15 reply, your Cover, | ERIK you aus
10 irl see Crow Le _prel. Lier walls coits Lo be tappeticg al
IL lide Lefel. Teds de Lie sdeecl Goole Scum Be. Pagliove.
12 mrazeasrical menopirany. TRAt'z geich to be the armmest from
13 bee elvan ride. Meyten obvieurly abillad Le aduases Wal
11 argument. Bit that's what Me. Gliiize la gelig to fess to
17 Eeapesd te at thc trial. And, of courac, the fury will thik
To ein de a Cwslarlical comspiracy iT Me. GC Cre doessl evar
Ti being in some ol Lie alleges conspielors sch es Spaleis,
1: sellen, ans Marciukova.
1: hove, wnt 1 Fear ta Gir in omeRew 8 hearsay insin
PE ser SEVESLZL. Tein ix vel 4 hearsay. Trare are coivg Lo be
21 witnesses in the case, gedticied and cross examised. fo thie
22 dante a cuestien of inadmissible hearsay, this 4s a mucstien of
73 preeshivg a wikees bo tee Surv.
a TES COURT: How wo yuo Ledek bide sedoencs le Atle
37 going te go dn by way of either depositics ox the depoaiticns
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1 elreasy taken
3 BE CHEAT: == or by Le wileansas being compel lod Lo
1 come ane lveke anc so en? 1 thlzk we know hew that's golig to
I werk cst.
H LE J FEE CAL FPR PX PN Ee
PL be Lung Lie depuedbivn Liel's bess ecuiies.
: With ME. Spetein, ve're going to bring him here live
3 boanine unten boos able fe reach Sim by sibponta, Bik bres tuo
TT tae bee 6H TL Lo rest by sobpowta, Lralls why wate
1 lake Leeds deposilive.
i” cd 20 Wr. spotedn will eesrify live, te wnild invoke,
13 Hadia Mareickous avd Sara Zelles, Lee deperilio Ran already
1 been taken. Rie dn oir
5 Tau GOULET WEGt de you do aboit the Statement that
16 counsel Trl made abo.l La impropricly of Lie deslionT
1 ME. CRESTIL: Rignl. fo yuo cen'l lesb sey, fey is
15 the mou mace of gress coeese aie they fake tie FIZ Yeu
13 manth pen Kak in, and Aeeky reeqeiter beak. Thorn Ras fe be
JE isepaniatl. seicence Lal sporty each arlion Lalla asbus
a 56 se iat we've done in eur brief, if yeu lock at
22 page 17 of eur initial paper = iF © ean fuse illustrate ene.
a WE COURT He, Waki al) right. Weakts Tite. 1 gob
a tee petat
tH MAL ChESsLL: ight. Sut) think this is a fair peist
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eoaTn:
1 abucl lie teieies, I'm fel ere Lael Lis gel Lie podat
© bemminn ete said terete oo miesnion
3 TE CHURT: Ton th worry abo L ad.caling Lem. TLE we
1 geitve get to esate
E Mi. GASElL Eo 1 wesld ust direst you to our --
© unten meind kn how, HEIR i7 6k A ment made oF arene sheen,
we have very speeioi sppeil sue se
: Tas COUIT 1 hear you. 1 bear you
s MAL CEL == of the cuerkions
iE TCHR: Voutwe Gol iL it Lie briet. T _rderslan
1n MRL CRESTLL: Rial.
1” in with rogare te their izternst in the ease,
TI ebeianly, Key aes ae DnLarerl i LRin vem wo in acesin
11 them of Leiag Livolies 4 a eek LraIiiching ane sex abies
17 conspiracy having her lese thls ease. They wesld be poppisg
16 cumpaie orbs. Trey elaarly Mave ar inlararl is Lre care.
1 Tie olter problem, cemenber, er Svuly, Lie goesliv
1: ds well, are these witnesses that the plaintiiZ Las some
13 conhrel suari In thin romchedy than thn Anthdach Far wncred
20 combrol over Lrese Cache?
2 Taese vere direct reports. 1 don't thik 1 heard any
22 reapesc to that from the ether side. these worn direot
23 reports te Maxenll, avd so thera are Ko poopla wre, vo row,
£1 ween Me. Giiiiie alleges Lisl sie’ livoloss Me. Mevell de
27 dsvelves in doing these things, these ave the vomen wie are
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1 ekeciling tie urdese Zur Me. Marvell, sis AU's sol perl us
© carnastienl ansapirany.
3 HIV we wae Lo do i ave Lie Jury bere Lis
1 informatic. We've provides in oir brie: very speciiic support
I zor cach of the cucstions THST we wast te ask. we thizk it's
© nehively appropriate than te ary Sear wean tenn tan Save te
1 eap
: TE CoUIT Thank yoo.
s Were are we oul Ver.
iE Mi. WERETHERR: Toor Parr, by wy exliselion, we Fave
1 une molive Let, which ds se wilh Lie upenig Likes,
i” ee en and what's Thani
iE Mi. WETHER: TL war aur welion Lo prov ibid
11 qiestiening os oir client regarciig Ger consensual acult seal
17 activities.
1" TL CHAT Ven
1 HEL MIEETGIR: Jo 1 Leke Lial ax o po ateat axe Lal
oe
1: we a hn
» MOL WERTHGTR: Okay. Twaseil sore
2 Ths COUT Yee, well 1 ean Gnderstand.
2 sow oan vos pessibly know what we're nize te de vies
23 donth kee wah wntro going be doi
a ME. MEKKTNGER: Your Boor, I'm happy to seier tale
37 sasie. 1 believe it is someuiat
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1:
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1 THD COURTS Yee
7 ML MRI om eemeted with sewn of Te otter
3 waliors Lal, Based on plaichi™T ts reprase-babion, Ley wal Lo
4 pit ei until asctier day, se satdl the 13 days belore, fn
I partiealar, se I'm Lappy to wait.
H We LAT ce dee teat Tigin —- 1'm sary.
T Daplais Lo me bow Liab oig.ces ifle Lis
: ME. MENKINGER: Inte this metioni
s WE COURT WaT], en are the Ringe abel which
10 Leer Fave Lo ive “olice
1n ME. MIKINGIR: Saeclly, yues Sosvr. Tee desnw dn
12 iz merion, ace 111 trv to he Sligtely eirmmspeat, hie in
13 Weis welier, we vave agreed Lal oe alien ee be aren
11 examines VAL. respect te plalitiz, any of platitiii'e
17 allegations, with respeot to ay other mizer victim. our
6 elienl run absol Lely denind buvivg beer Pecoluad seal ly wile
Ti plelsliil or wil Lie mizor ciclim
1 Tae veils Like to intrecice evicence of sume kiie
13 nuary sfrer seke wits ebrer propln. They Rave ok veh
JE speci iad, apparesliy, comlelely, wal oliar sels an ural
21 other people they're talkisg abeut.
2 ms GOVE de | thizk we shesld =
a WoL WEKTRGAS Rig.
a THD COURT Bu I tadik we etoile vedl Gitil ve get it
20 all. okay. fo that takes care of that.
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1 ME. MCCBMLEY: Toor Furr, there's Duel one more lidag
7 pressdirally, £1 asild flan whe ieire while | Rave yer
3 alekion Botore ve all Tara, al would be alpr.l
1 THE COURT Don't went en At.
E BE. BoGANLEX! Sorry.
H wear vee
¥ HEL MGCRRLIY: TL'e Jes, di gues vives sbuol Lie 361
and the deste wth the nen procicticn, yeu sald that we sheild
3 suggesh bearicg dates. | sen ran your Coser has mowed bee
10 rearing calex Lo Mactesiars, ro ve vers Fopity Lo, nitce
11 lieze's wily = Sev Pedieseys lool beivze var Lisl, sessive
12 ene of those te handle thar Searizai
iE A COURT Wall, Thm ak sre
n ME. MCCRMLEX: Or viatever cay veils werk.
5 Tau COLE Be. Okay. Kew, §t seems tome, correct
Tome iT Thm wreng, on Le ale watre gait Lo do Tpeleints weliow,
Ti Lee epusilivs vesigralive, Lue bilorcelio:
1 MIL CHEEZLL: I'm surry, ve Just Sic that.
1: Tou GUA av Hen wav, mabe wn ceils de thn
28 bitorcation fxs vary cickly. Beal ix iL yo. wal Lo
2 MA, ChSSALL: 1 TRASK ve Jet Gié that a ew momenta
a WoL MACHETE Peat wr Kee ovo about bee Timasaial
a revorce.
tH Ta COLE 37 whats
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1 HE. MCCBMLEY: We Jiel ele biel abucl Lis liesciel
© vemenn, ad ye ques ue some diveeties ee than, sn than sents
8 wees
1 THs COURT Oh, okay. fo that's dene. Okay. fo
3 her's the Ith.
z MeL MeL: tne. sn ees teernte april 1768, unin
PT belies de Lie cullociig Pediesiey, si Lie 1 Leich Lie wie
© aster that de the Loth.
s WG CHUARS el, are wn goivg te de a bearitg —- |
10 Lake BL wate going Le Ge @ Peariog on Lie recorsideralion
noe
1” MeL MELT Rants wan Lm talking shee, ges
13 Forer. Um sorry. Ves. de balls ten evidesbiney iso. eT —=
11 gun eat they coils preesit a Sorensld, bases Gn oir vieer ui
17 reommsideratien of the bevember Zid, fo that's tie date U'm
16 looking Tor. Thm serey, T she.ld have bees clearer abo l Lal.
1 TOI COURT: Mer are ve volte Lo do Lial?
1 ME. MCCRMLEX: Mage the Lith ox the 13th pussiblyt
1: He Ga Coe abet ta 106
» Mi. MeCTRLETE Gay
2 Ths COUST Joes that werk Zor you alll
2 Mi. PAGLIVGAD | saz’ de the 9th, veur sezer, I'm in
73 a deporities all day i= Colorado. 1m orev.
a TED COURT: Huw wunle yuu puseibly Lek solier cece?
tH MIL BAGLIVCA: Well, believe me, 1 have a lot of
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1 cliente Lieb are capiog Lieb wxecl same Lily 2Lil Sow, yout
3 M3. WEKTHGTR: Your Torr, co.ld we do bre 1305, Lhe
4 Teizeday ui that weeks
E Tau COVERT Eee. 1 GORE S00 AGF KEAIC SOT TOL
5 okay
¥ HE. MGCRRLIY: Tael's ald 1 hed, gues Tur. Tasch
gus. And thank yus for your patisnce, everyone, today.
s COUNT: Faves we completed tha brinTing avd
10 weerglning eonrybody varle Lo sbuil on Lie black book izz et
1n ME. MGCBLIY: Mell, ye, yout Suivi. Su fue, as oo
12 ae mighr, it was S21y hriofed, sn there are three briefs oz
TE i anmenlial le Da Sad a mekios i Limite Le allow iis,
11 they hac a motion dn Limine to exclice At, ans Lt came Gp
12 previessly —- 1 forget, we argued it a couple vecks ago in the
16 coral of arelrer mokion == of, Thm sorry, bucs.se, voor
Tr Toror, goo tegoesled Lal wilt tespect Lo diate Tlores. fo ve
1: cion't reargue it tosey, it de Tully brdetes for you.
1: Tou Guat Okay. I= etter words, |lun Gok cunrvtsicg
2 a bral
a MEL MOCAMLAY: You Se. OUI ROTer, je.
2 Tas covsr okay. ssyehize elani
a MeL MACHETE Rot Keak 1m agar of.
a MIL PRGLICGE: I tack we're conclices tusays joot
2 menor. Task you.
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VIRGINIA 1 GIUFIRI, H
v H
i 15:0y-07433-RWS
GITISLAINE MAXWELL. i
Defendant. H
Defendant's Response in Opposition to
Plaintilt’s Omnibus Motion in Liming
Laura A. Menninger
Jellrey S. Paglivea
Iy ties
1581 Last 10% Avenue
Dever. CO 80203
FRITH
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LEED. R EVID, 40531 REQUIRES ADMISSION OF ALL SPECIFIC INCIDENTS OF
PLAINTITF TYING OR ENGAGING TN DECTITTUT, OR TRAUDUTTNT CONDUCT |
A. All allegations or corments made by PlaintfT are *eonnceted Ur the alleged defamatory
FA NN SO
Be ROSpansos 10 ENCE MOYIONS 57 LOINC vss sess ©
1, Swuies aud allegations conserning Desshoneitz. foreign presidents, and world leadess
ars highly relevant ind admissible (MoU i TATE roo 8
2. Mecing Bill Clinton at Jeflvey Tipsicin's private iskand twice (Motion in Tinsine 2).... 8
2. TOI responses und related materials are admissible (Maton in Timing 3.......oo.....
4. Tanai Froeh's lestimany and report ars admissibls svidenee {ation in Liming 3... 9
5. Prince Androw and Buckingham Palace's denials of Plaintifls claims ars not niferad
for the truth of the mater asserted (MOON 6 LASS). 11
6, Evideace Regueding Phaiatifls Sexual Mistry ad Reputation is Adutissible (Motive in
TPT aot prohibit se of swords sash us “prostituls.” which she wed to dsseribe
osselt, ov fy other “derogitory”™ feruts that describe bet sspucativn (Motion in Lisine
S$. Plaintifl's drug use is relevant by her memary and lack of mages (Motion in imine
9. Information regarding Plainri’s criminal history is relevant and admissible cvidsnce
when chacacter is an essential elewsent of the claisn (Motion in imine 9) 1®
10. Toidenue concerning sehuol altendance is relevant Lo Plaintill*s allegations af how the
<pent her tne in 1999 10 2002 {MAOHON 1 LINE 10Y cs 19
11, Plaigut? pur bee toll chihood history sal character at issue Moto io Linas 11). 20
12. Victions Refuse Silence is a sham not-for-profit established to crete a claim foe
AOTAMELIN PET 50 IVHION 1 LATING 12) rms 20
i
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13. Phainti's faitoce to pay her personal tax obligations is relevant to hc chiacauter for
Ath abs (MOO i LING 13) eos 22
14. Plaintifl's hushand"s domestic violence against her in arch 2015 is probative af other
intervening casos of eencianal distiess snd related damages (Motion in Limine 14) 25
15. Plants lies above her age and the year she wee Mr. Epstein must be exposed o the
16. Alar Plainii%s medical records ane relevant to PLaintfT's damages claims Mion in
17. The Parties agree to preclusion of all documents and discussion of the Jane Doe 102
eas, including, the settlomont of those ehiims (V10HON in THE 17) ere 20
18. The Cassell Edwards v. Dershowitz litigation is relevant ind adreissible (Motion in
19. Judge Marr's ruliag is elerant sad admissidle {MOTo0 ia Line 19)... 29
20. The tenscript of he wpe cevordiag of Mr. Decshowitz’s conversation with Rebecca
Haglan i dmisesible (NOGA 10 LANE H0)..oeeee 31
C. Plaintifl’s Remaining Motions In imine Are Premature and Regusst an Uinisvessars
Advisory Opinion (MOHOBS in LIM 21-29) courses: 32
2 Discussion of missing witnossos and avscace of cvideuce is apprapriste, and missing
WilTESS WSAUON LY DE RUSE... rrr eres 35
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Jae: ». Redmond. SIS US, 1. 116 SCE 1923, 135 LEL2I2IT HI) comers 22
Kondous Jolson dnc. v. 0) Amico. No. CIV.A. 10-2869, 2012 WL 2190897, at *1 (ED. La. Je
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Night Flight
They say that you can read a pecson’s feelings on his face. But if so. either
I'm a very good actor the opposite of what anyone who has warked closely
with me would tell you or the journalists ¢lustered in front of me weren't very
good face-readers. They said that T looked defeated. Distressed. Depressed.
Yet as 1 delivered my brief final statement outside an olive-green cabin at
Carn David, the Amenean presidential retreat in the forested Catoeun hills
noth of Washington, | fel none of those things.
Yes, Twas disappointed. I realised that what had happened over the last 11
days, or mare crucially what had nof happened, was bound to have serious.
consequences, both for me persoually, as Prime Minister of Israel, and for my
country.
But 1 had been a politician, at that point, tar all of five years. By far most of
say life, [had spent in uniform, As a teenager, small and sight md nol even
shaving yet, [ was one of the founding core of a uni called Sayeret Aatkal,
Istael’s equivalent of America’s Delta Force, or Britain's SAS. It may be that
the way 1 thonght und acted, the way 1 dealt with danger or with crises, came
from someplace inside me. Even as 8 young kid, | was always quiet. serious,
contemplative. But my 13 years as a part of Israel's main special-forces unit,
espeelly once | becume its commander, etched those qualities more deeply.
And they added new ones: a sense thal you coubd never plan a mission too
carefully of prepare wo assiduously; an understanding that what you thought,
and certainly what you said, muttered a lot less thin what you did, And above
ull the realisation that, when one of onr ightlime cormusmdo operations was
over, whether it had succeeded or failed, you had 1o fake a step back. Cvaluate
things accurately, coolly, without illusions. Then, in the light of how the
situation had chimged, you had to decide how best lo move forwind,
I hat approach, to the occasional frustration of the politicians and diplomats
working alongside me during this critical stage of Israel's history, had guided
me from the moment | beeame Prime Minister. In my very first discussions with
President Clinton w year earlier — a long weekend, beginning al the While House
and moving on to Camp David — T had mapped out at great length. in great
detail, every ane of the steps | knew we would hive to take fo confront the
central issue facing Israel: the need for peace.
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In choosing Lo retura, now, ww Camp David for Lwo weeks of summit talks, T
Kaew the risks. OC all the moments of truth in my life — and in the life of my
country tow, it any, would camy higher stakes, Success would mean not just
anc more stiter-step sway from our eontury-long conflict with the Palestinians.
Iu would signal a real, (inal peace: in Leeaty-speak, end of conflict. Whatever the
complexities of putting an agreement into practice, given all the suffering and
bloodshed endured by both sides, we would have crossed a point of no return.
There would be two states. for two peoples.
And if we failed? I knew. if only from months of increasingly stark
intelligence reparts, that an explosion of Palestinian violence not just with
stones or boliles this time, but wilh guns nd explosives — would be anly a
mater of time.
knew something else as well. This would be a moment of truth not just for
me. Or for Bill Clinton, a man who understood our conflict more deeply, and
was more determined to help us end it, than any other president before him. Tt
was a moment of truth for the leader of the Palestinians, Yasir Arafat,
The Oslo Accands of 1993, groundbrealing though they were, had created a
peace process, not peace. Over the past few years, that process had been
lurching from crisis co crisis. Political support for negotiations was fraying. Aad
yel the core ssties of our conflict had not been resalved. In fact, they had hrdly
been talhed about. The reason for this was no secret. Lor both sides, these
questions lay at the heart of everything we'd been saying for years. to the world
and to ourselves, about the roots of the conflict and the minimum terms we.
could accept in order to cud it. Al issue were rival claims on security. final
borders. Israeli settlements, Palestinian refugees. and the future of ancient city
of Jerusalem. None of these could be resolved without painful, and politically
perilous, compromises,
Tintering the summit, despite the prossuces ahead, T was confident that I. with
ny team of aides and negotiators, would do our part to make such a tinal peace
agreement possible. Nor did 1 donb tat Presickent Clinton, whom 1 had come io
view nol just as a diplomatic parties bu a friend, would rise 1 the occasion.
But as for Arafat? There was simply no way of knowing,
That wits why | had pressed President Clinton so hard ta conveng fhe
summit. Thal, wees why, despite the misgivings of sare of his closest advisers,
he had taken fhe plinge. We both knew that the so-called “finul-status issues™
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the substance of any real peace — could not simply be put off foreves.
Untangling them was getting harder, not easier. And we ealised that only in en
environment like Camp David “pressure cooker” was how | described it to
Clinton, und 10 US Sceretary of State Madeleine Albright — woukd we ever
discover whether a peace deal could in fact be dane.
Now. we knew.
xox
Iscuel’s equivalent of Air Force One. perhaps in a nod to our country’s
piancering carly years, was im almost prehistoric Boing 707. 11 was wating on
the ruwway at Andrews Air Force Base outside Washington to ferry me and the
rest of aur negotiating team back home,
It contained i lowsrent equivalent of the American version’s presidential
cabin, and a few 1960s-vintage first-class seats. but consisted mostly of two
Tong lines of coach seats, three abreast, separated by an alist tightrape-narrow
aisle. 1 dare say 1 was alone in finde an odd sense of comfort in boarding the
plane. This museum piece of an aircraft was part of my past. Tt was the same
model of 707 for which 1 with a couple of other young soldiers and engineers.
had come up with whit we dubbed the “submirine door” system outside the
cackpil lo protect EI Al pilots from future sucks aller one of iis plies hid
been hijacked to Algiers in the summer of 1968. It was also the same kind of
plune a Sabena tight, hijacked to Tel Aviv's Ben-Gurion Airport which 1
stoned, before sunrise, four yes later with a free of nearly two dozen
Matkal commandos. The shooting was over within 90 seconds. One of my men
a junior officer named Ribi Netanyahu was wounded. By ane of our awn
bullets. But we manged to kill two of the heavily armed hijackers. capture the
aters, and fice all 90 passengers unhaned
Still, even [ had to accept, it was no fun to fly on.
As we banked eastward after takeoff and headed out over the Atlantic, the
mood on boasd was suber. Huddling with the inner eure of my negotiating team
— my policy co-ordinator Gilad Sher. security aide Danny Yatom and Foreign
Minister Shlomo Ben-Ami I could see that the way the summit ended had hit
them hard. Tt was probably true, as all three often reminded me, that the greatest
pressure fell on me. | was the one who ultimately decided what we could. or
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should, offer in search of a true peace with the Palestinians. T was the one who
would be blamed by the inevitable critics, whether for going loo far of not far
enough, or simply for the fat the deal had eluded us. [knew the drill the same
hing hod bisppened when | id come tmiahizngly close 1 Fafizing 1 pence
deal with Syria's then-dying dictator, Uafez al-Assad, a few months earlier. Yet
these three dedicated men — Gili, who was by training a lawyer: Shlomo, an
academic: and Danny, a former Mossad chief — had just been though dozens of
hours of intricately detailed tall with cach of Arafat’s wp negotiators at Camp
David, not to mention the dozens of other meetings betore we had even got
here. Now they had to accept that, even with the lid of the pressure cooker
bolted down tight, we had fallen short of gelling the peace agreement which
each of us knew had been within touching distance.
1 don’t think that even they could be described as depressed. On our side.
afterall, we knew we had given ground ou every issue we possibly could.
without facing full-scale political rebellion at hame. We had proposed an Iscacli
‘pullout from nearly all of the West Bank and Gaza. A support mechanism for
helping compensate tens of thousands of Palestinian wefiges from the serial
Arab-lseacli conflicts of the past half-century. And most painfully and
controversially — my rivals and critics back home were already accusing me of
“treachery” we had agreed 1 lel Presdent Clinton present a proposal for the
Palestinians 10 get soverigaly over the Arab neighbourhoods of Jerusalem as
well as “custodial sovereignty” over the Ilaram al-Sharif, the mosque complex
perched above the Western Wall, the holiest site in Judaism
But precisely becuse we had been sad 10 offer so much, only for Arafat lo
sefiect it all. even as a basis for talks on & final deal, T could sense how gutted my
key negotiators were feeling.
Sill, Um sire none of them was surprised when my own old operational
instincts kicked in. In my stawement to journalists, | had been careful to say that
Arafat was net ready at fhis time to male the historic compromises needed for
peace, Bul before partmg with President Clinton and Scerclary Albright, I'd.
been more focthright. 1 was clear, without my saying so, that the ehianees of our
getting a peace agreement on Clinton's watch were now pretty much over. Tle
hat barely five months left in office. Yet my deeper fear was thi with Arafat
having brushed aside sn offer tht went far further than auy other Ismchi hud
proposed — far further than the Americans, themselves. had expected from Iscael
the prospects for peace would be set back for years. Perbips. 1 said, for wo
decades.
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The challenge now, T told my exhausted team, was to make sue we were
prepared for this new reality. Pact of the spadework was aleady in place. Much
as ['d hoped that Arafat and [ could tum a new page in Middle Fast history, |
Tie directed our army ehicl-of-stalT, mine months before the summit, 10 draw up
contingency plans for the likelihood of an unprecedentedly deadly eruption of
Palestinian violence if we were to fail.
Now, | felt we had to go even further, and to prepare a proactive alemative
10 the negotiated deal we'd been unable w scour. | proposed considering a
sntlatera! 1sraeli pullout from the West Bank and Gaza. The territorial terms
would, necessarily, be less far-reaching tham the proposal Arafat had rejected,
Bul | fel we should still withdraw from the great majority of the land we had
captured in 1967, stil leaving the Palestinians an area which the outside world
would recognize as wholly sufficient for them to establish a viable, successful
state.
Aud crucially, this would finally give (sracl, on country, a delineated, inal
border with the territory captured in the Six-Day War.
Gil, clearly uneasy about accepting the idea that the chinces for a negotiated
peace were definitively gone, lefl to ry tw gel some sleep on the long Night
ahead. Danny and Shlomo Ben-Ami as well. Within an hour or so, the plane
was full of irreuularly shimped bodies, the silence broken only by the drone of
thie 707s engines and the occasional sound of snoring.
1 sa, wide awake. in one of the seats at the front.
My sleeping habits were another inheritance from Sayeret Mathai, During
those years. niemly everything of significance which 1 did bud lsppened atic
sundown. The commando operations were, of course, set (or darkness whenever
possible. The element of surprise could mean the ditference between success
und Fenlure, indeed life and death. Bud sll of my planing, ull my thinking,
tended to happen at night as well. The quiet, and the lack of distractions, helped
to discipline my mind. I found that it helped to free my mind as well. sometimes
anly lo discover that it went off in mespecied dircenons.
11 did so now. Perhaps oven | was still reluctant 10 accept that Camp David
meant that the opportunity for a transformative deal with Arafat was finished.
Yet whitever the reason, 1 begin thinking bic to the first ne that my path and
his ad crossed. 11 was in the spring of 1968, nearly a year afer Isracl had
defeated the armies of our three main Arab enemies Egypt, Syria and Jordan.
Israeli forces were advancing on a Jordanian town called Karameh, across the
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Jordan River from the West Bank, from which a Nledgling group called Fatah,
under the command of Arafat, had been staging a series of raids. In une of their
most recent attacks, they'd planted land mines, one of which destroyed an
Lane sehoolbus, killing the driver und one of the leachers and injusng nearly s
dozen children. The so-called Bautle of Karameh was our single most significant
operation since the 1967 war. In pure military terms. it succeeded. But at a
price: more than two dozen Iscacli soldiers dead. It also had a major political
impact. 1 caused shock among many Israelis. still wrapped in a sense of
invincibility fiom the Six-Day War, as well as a feeling in the Arab world,
actively encouraged by Arafat and his comrades, that compared ta the great
armies Isvael had defiled iu 1967, Vatah liad at least shown fight. Vaal had
drawn blood.
1had just turned 26 years old. Iwas finishing my studies in mata, physics
and economics at the Tebress University in Jerusalem, and had joined ny
Saperet Matkal comrades the night before the assault. 1 was a huge operation:
ten battalions, including crack infantry unis. Our own role was relatively minor.
We were to seal the southern enmnce to the lown. Bu it proved a longh slog
just to get there. Our vehicles got bogged down in mud. By he Lime we arcived,
Tatah fighters, although many were in civilian clothes so we couldn't be sure.
were racing past us in the other direction. One of them, we were later told, wis
Yasir Acafal. Ona moloceyele.
Tt would be nearly three decades before the two of us actually met — shortly
after the assassination of my langtme comrade und friend Yitzhak Rabm, when
1 trad bivome Foreign Minister under Shimon Peres. But in the intervening
years, Acafat was sacely off of my radac. By the early 1970s, he and his (ighters
had been expelled by King, Hussein's anny from Jordan and were re-based in
Lebaron. Arf wiss becoming i significant figure on te Arch und world
political stage. and an incceasingly uncomfortable thorn in Terael’s side. Twas
hiead of Suverer Markl by then. Over a period of months. I drew up a carefully
constructed plan — a raid by helicopter into a Fatab-dominated ara in
southeastern Lebanon, during one of Arafat's intermittent, mucale-boostiog
sits from Beirut — to assassinate him. My immediate superior, the army’s head
of operations, was all for our doing it. But fhe chief of military intelligence said
20. Asafa, be insisted when we met to discuss the plan, was no longer the lean,
mean fighter we had encountered ia Karameh. “Ile’s fat. Iles a politician. Ile is
not a target.”
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A decade later, the idea would suddenly resurface. Tn my first meeting, as a
newly promoted Major General, with our then Defence Minister Ariel Sharon,
Sharan tumed to me and the armys Chief of Staff, Rafael Fitan, and said: “Tell
nie. Why the hell is Arafat sill alive?” He looked fins a Raul, then al me, and
added: “When I was 20 years younger than you ace, | ever wailed for someone
like Ben-Gurion or Dayan to ask me to plan an operation. I would plan it! Then
Ud take it wo them and sey, you're the politicians, you decide, but if you say vcs.
we'll doit” 1 smiled, telling him that ('d done exetly thal, a decade cali,
only to have one of his mates in the top brass say no. Sharon now said yes. But
the plan was avertaken: by his ill-fated plan to launch a full-scale invasion of
Lebauon in 1982, tacgeting no just Arafat, bu with the aim of crushing the
PLO militarily once and for all.
1 finally met Arafat face-to-face at the end of 1995. Although the Oslo peace
process had dramatically changed things. it was olear that the real prize — real
peace — was still Rr away. We were in Barcelona. for a Euco-Meditereancan
meeting under the auspices of King Juan Carlos, aimed at trying to re-invigotate
negotiations. The ceremonial centrepiece of the event was 3 dimer at one of the
soyal palaces, and it was arranged for me and Arafat to meet for a few minutes
beforehand. T arrived firs. 1 found myself in 2 breathtakingly opulent. but
otherwise crpty, toon. Empty, that is. except for a dark-brown Sicinwiry pro,
Ueom ehildbond. J have loved music. And while {am never likely to threaten the
career of anyone in the New York Philharmonic, I have, over the years,
developed some ability, and drawn huge enjoyment, as a classical pianist.
pulled back the red-velvet heneh and began w play. With my buck to the
doorway. Twas unaware that Arafat had arrived, and that he was soon standing.
only a few feet away, watching as 1 played ane of my favourite pieces, a Chopin
waltz, My old commando antennae must have been blunted. [ may not have
become “fat”. Bu, undeniably, T was now a politician.
‘When I finally realised Aratar was behind me. I tamed. embarrassed. stood
up, snd grasped his hind. “11s 4 weal pleasure to mee! you?” | sand. *) must say |
lave spent many years watching you by other means.” Te smiled. We stood
talking for about 10 minutes. My hope was to establish simple, human contact:
to signal respect: to begin to ereate the canditions not to try to kill Arafat, but to
make peace with him. “We carry a great responsibility.” said. “Both of our
peoples have paid a heavy price, and the time has come to find a way to solve
this.”
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1 sensed, at the time, at lees! the start of some connection. T suspected that
Arafal viewed me. as he had Rabin before me, as a “(fellow fighter”. But if so, [
now wondered whether that might have been part af the problem in his ever
funly understanding my mission al Camp David. My motivations. Or my mind.
Liven in Israel, my reputation as a soldier has sometimes been as much a
burden as an advantage. A whole body of stories has followed me from my 36
years in uniform a career which, after Savered Maskal, led me up the military
adder until | was head of operations, intelligence, and eveaually of the entize
army as Chief of Staff. By the time [ left the military, 1 was the single most
decoruted soldier in our country’s history, Some of the stories were actually
fone: that when we burst onto the hijacked Saber airliner, for mstance, we wore
dressed as a maintenance orew: or that, in leading an assassination raid in Beirut
against the PLO group that had murdered Israeli athletes at the 1972 Munich
Olympics, [ was disguised as a woman. Not the most attractive young lady,
perhaps, though T did. painfully, pluck my eyelashes. and, with the help of four
pairs of standard-issue Israeli Army socks. develop quite a comely bosom. I
rejected the fee of wenring u fom dress, in Givour of sty hshly Mared trousers. |
was going on a commando operation, after all, nol a prom date. But 1 did weae
heels. So ves, a woman, of sorts.
Yet some of the staries were just plrin myth. | had given up counting the
times I"d heard about my alleged prowess in reeording the festesi-cver me on
the most gruelling of the Israeli army’s obstacle courses. Tn fact, T was a lot
more like Goldie Hawn in Privaie Senjanin,
The rin misunderstanding, however, went deeper. The assumption
appeared to be that my military achievements, especially in Suverer Matkal,
were down to a mix of brute force and raw courage. Courage, of course, wis a
requirement: the willingness fo fake risks. 1f the rewards for success, or fhe costs
of inaction, were geal cough, lew of the operations | fought in or commanded
were without the real danger of not coming back alive. But whatever success 1'd
ad as a soldier, particularly mn Madkal, was not only, nor even mamly, about
biceps. It was about brains. 1 he ability to make decisions. To withstand the
pressure of often having to make the most crucial decisions within a mateer of
sceonds. [¢ was, above ull, about thinking and analyzing nd always, always,
looking and planuing ahead.
And as our place droned ouward towacds Israel. [knew that I would now
need ll of those qualities more thin ever.
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xox
This book 1s only in part the story of my life a life that, from my
beginnings as a kibbulz boy in pre-state Pakstine, has been intimately entwined
with the infancy and adolescence and. now, the increasingly troubled middle
use of the Stare of [src
Still hess is it only a record of its, or my, uchievemeuts, although they are
inevicably a parc of the story.
In sefting out fo write it, | was alsa determined ta document, from the inside,
the erilical setbacks us well. Mistakes. Mispdgements. Missed epporinmtics.
And the lessons that we can, and must, be prepared to learn from them
No less so than | when | was planning a hijack rescue or a cross-border
commando operation in Saverer Matkal, | remain convinced that Israel's
security, Tsrael’s very identity. can be safeguarded oaly by evaluating
dispassionately the situation in our country and the world. And by looking
ahead.
Liven when © was a soldier, [ never stopped thinking this way, especially
when first as military intelligence chief and especially as Chief of Staff, 1 knew.
in detail, every onc of the scenrily threads thal faced Ismael snd wis part of
discussions and decisions 10 wy to confront them. 1suill vividly remember as
Chief of Staff, every Friday before the arrival of the Jewish Sabbath. sitting
with Rabin, who was then [srael’s Defence Minister. Our offices were along the
same hallway of the Arve, the ministry's headquaners in the heat of Tel Aviv.
Rabin had a very low table in his office. with twa chairs. We would sit across
from each other, each with a ready supply of coffee and Yitzhak smolcing an
apparently endless supply of cigarettes, and we would just talk. Politics.
Strategy. Tsrasl. The PLO, The surrounding Acab states. And the wider world
Many years before I becare Prime Minister, I gave 2 lecture at a memorial
meeting for an lsc academic. Nol many people were there. | doubt even they
semember it. But 1 do. because what | said bas, sadly. become moc prophetic
than even I could have imagined. I talked about the imperative for peace as part
of [srael’s security, There was a “window,” 1 said. We were militarily strong. In
regional terms, we were a superpower. But politically, resolving the conflict
with aur Arab enemies would almost certainly become more difficult with time.
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Tra, pechaps Tran and other Middle Eastern states, might gel auclear weapons.
A violent form of fundamentalist Ista could over time, erode existing Arab
and Muslim states, threatening Israel of course, but alsa the stability of our
neighbourhood and of the workd. tn hese eircumstimees, even if an lsmach
goverment was song enough, wise caough, forward-looking enough to
pursue avenes for negotiated peace with its immediate neighbours. getting the
popular support cequired would be all bul impossible
Ihe windonw is still there. But it is only barely open.
1 fear that I was right, as well, in predicting thar our failure to secure a final
peace agreement with the Palestinians at Camp David might set back
peacemniking nol ust for a few months, but for many yeurs. | have persisted in
trying, very hard, to make tha particular prediction prove wrong. That was why,
despite intense pressure from my awn political allies not to do so. | decided to
Return to government m 2007 as Defence Minister. | remained in that vole for
six years: mostly in the current, right-wing Likud government of my onetime
Severe Marka! charge, Bibi Netanyahu,
Much of what | say in this book about war and peace, security and Isruel’s
future challenges. will make uncomfortable reading for Bibi. But very litle of it
will surprise him, or his own Likud rivals further to the right, like Foreian
Minister Avigdor I icherman and the Economy Minister, Naftali Bennett, [ have
sai almost all of 1 10 them behind closed cours in the past few years, more than
once. When I fiaally decided to leave the political arena last year. it was largely
because | realized that they were guided by ather imperatives, In the case of
Bibi, the must gifted politician with whom I've worked except for Chinton, the
priority was to stay in power. For Avigdor and Naftali. it was to supplant Bibi.
when the opportunity was ripe, as Likud leader and as Prime Minister, And
much wo often as with their higely ill-advised recent proposal fo amend
Lsracl’s basic lave 1o define it explicitly as a Jewish state, and deny “national
Tights” to non-Jews the three of them have ended up competing for party
political points rather trun weighing the serious future imphations for the
country.
Peacemaking, as T discovered first-hand, requires taking risks. Statesmanship
requires risks. Politics, especiully if defined simply as staying in power, is
almost hays whol Lhe avoidance of sk.
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The problem for Tsracl, no matter who or what party is in government, is that
there ace risks everywhere une looks, and they show every sign of getting more,
mot less, serious,
The “Arab Spring” has morphed info an [slamic winter, National frontiers
that were put in place by British and French diplomats ater the fall of the
Ottoman Empire are vanishing. Centuries-old conflicts between tribes and rival
relygians communities have reignited. The old Cold War system of nanons has
given way 10.4 world without u single geopolitical centre of gravity. Perhaps
most seriously, [ran seems determined to get nuclear weapons, and. in my view.
may succeed in doing sa,
Where Israel is concerned. relations wilh on indispusably most irpoant
ally. the United States, are more swrained than at any time in decades.
Diplomatic ties with Furope, our single largest trading parmer, have been
growing steadily worse. And the only real ecrtiinty bs Wt smyone whe tells you
that they know absolutely where things are heading next is lying. Just ask Uosoi
Mubarak. who, despite having nearly halt-a-million soldiers and security
operatives al hus disposal, was nilerly blindsided, and very soon toppled and
imprisoned. by an uprising that began with a sudden show of popular anger in
Cairo’s Talurir Square.
Internally as well, Isruel faces dangers. Chief among them is the alaming
crasion of the standards of civil discourse, wid the increasingly shrill, ofien
hateful, divisions between left and right. secular and religious. rich and poor
and, most seriously of all, Jews and Arabs. While we remain economically
suceessiul, he fruits of our wealth are being ever move imevenly shared, und the
prospects for continued growth constrained by the lack of any visible prospect
of Tong-term peice.
Bibi Netanyahu, of course, knows all of this, Indeed, he has repeatedly
spoken of the multiple threats Tsrael faces. not only in somber terms, bul at
times almost apocalyptically.
That worles, politically. Paliticians, not just in Israel but everywhere, know
that it is a lot casier Wo win elections vn fear than on hope.
Yet my own prescription — learned, as this book recounts, from years on the
battlefield, then reinforced by my years in govemment is that Israel must
sesist being guided by either of those allernatives. Not fear, certainly. Bul
neither by simple. untempered hope. Though the stakes have become much
higher sinee my wight tight buck from Camp David nearly 15 years ago. our
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need comaing what T tried Lo impress on my negotiators thea: realism. A
meticulously informed, utterly unvamished, understanding of the threats we
face, of each altered situation after every success or a failure, and an ability to
set aside the buckground noise and political pressures and chart a way forward.
So what is that way? [t begins with the mindset. Ou more than one occasion
in the past few years, after Prime Minister Netanyahu had warned our country
of a nuclear Irn ar the spread of Al Qaeda-style hatred ind violence, as if
prophesying the coming of Armageddon, [would sey to him: “Stop lking like
that. You're not delivering a sermon in a synagogue. You're Prime Minister.”
Having been privileged to live my own hfe long with the entire modem history
af our conniry, | went further. Zionism, the founding architcetre of [sracl, was
rooted iin finding a way to supplant not just the life, but the way of thinking,
which hard-pressed Jewish communities had intemalised aver centuries in the
diaspora: in [lebrew, the galuf. We would instead lake control of our pwn
destiny. building and developing and sceuring vue ows country.
Now. I told Bibi, he was back in the mindset of the gafur. Yes, al-Qaeda. and
more recently Islamic State, were real dingers. The prospect of a nuclear Iran
wes even ose so. “Bul the implication of the way you speak. not just 10 Barack
Obama or David Cameron, but to sraetis, is that these are existential threats.
What da vou mage? That 1f, God forbid, we witke up and ram is 8 nuclear
power, we'll pack up and go back to the shierds of Europe?”
Of course not. Tsracl, as my public life has taught me more than most,
remains strong militarily, We are, still, fully capable of tuming back any of the
wndenihle Uneats on our doorstep. Keeping that strength, developing it and
modernizng it. are obviously critically important. But as Israel's founding Prime
Minister, David Ben-Gurion, used to say, the success of Zionism, and of the
Israel stite, requied Iwo tims: strength und “ghiconsness.” He didn’t mean
the word in purely religious terms. Le scant that lsracl, if it were to retain
intematianal backing and intemal cohesion, must be guided by a core of moral
assurptions as well.
Tha, in itself, would be season enough w pursue every possible appovianily
for “end of conflict” with our neighbours. And. at home, to protect and re-
inforee pur commitment to Israel as both a Jewish and a democratic stare, But
Lsruel’s sireple sel nlerest — its hope For prosperity, social eolesion, ad
prowth in fnture — makes this nothing short of imperative.
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Bibi is right shout ous thing. The negotiating challenges have become more
difficult since Arafat's refusal of our offe at Camp David. Arafat is no longer
alive, Palestinian politics have become ever more fragmented and messy, nat
least. ws a sesnlt of the Hamas uskeover of Gaza,
But Churchill once said that the difference helween a pessimist and an
optimist was that the pessimist always saw ditficulties in every opportunity. The
optimist suw opportunities in the difficulties,
1, of all people, do not look at such opportunities without hard-headed
analysis. even a dose of scepticism. But the opportunities are undeniably there,
and never has Israel risked paying a higher price for failing to see and at least to
ry 10 act on them
The first port of call should still be the Palestinians. T have repeatedly asked
Bibi, and the right-wing rivals that seem often ta loom large in his political
culentations: “IF you're so sure you don't have a negotiating paviner in the
Palestinians. who not at least try? Seciously. What do you have to lose?
But beyond this, there is a whole ranpe of relatively moderate countries —
ancl, 2s Sunni stsfes, sivongely anti-Jrunian countries — which share with [sracl
seal, practical intecest in putting in place a new political acrangement in the
Middle Cast. So does the United States, Russia, even China. Tach, in their own
ways. is threatened by i terror threat thal will requive intemtioni action, und
many years, linally to defea
A Saudi “peace plan”, for instance, has been on the table for years. Formally
endorsed by the Arb 1 cai, it proposes a swap: [srueli withdrawal for full und
final peace and Arb recoguition. Successive Israeli govenmments lave
dismissed it out of hand, arguing that the withdrawal which the Saudi proposal
demanded every inch of rerritory, back to the borders before the Six-Day War
— would be not only politically wnsceepiable, bu practically impossible
In the final days of the Camp David summit, as our failure was becoming
inescapably clear, a disheartened Bill Clinton said to me that he could
understand, just bon, why Yasir Arafal bud nat aceepted the unprecedentedly
la-reaching proposals | had presented. But what he eouldu’L grasp was how the
Palestinian leader could say no even to accepting then as a basis for the hard,
further work which we all knew a final peace agreement would entail, Wasn't
Arafat capable of looking beyond the political risks, of understanding the
greater risks of inaction. Of seeing the rewards? Ot Joofing ahead?
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My fear not just on issues like the Saudi peace plan, but in charting our
place in a dramatically changed world, and safeguarding our twin Jewish and
democratic identities at home, pairing our physical strength with an equally
strong moral eerie — is thal we [ssachis are now in dager of jellisonig the
example of David Ben-Gurion. For Yasir Arafat's.
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Chapter One
Liam an Israel, but also i Palestiman. | was born in Febmary 1942 in Brinshe
ruled Palestine on a fledgling kibbutz: a cluster of wood-and-tarpaper huts amid
afew orange groves and vegetable fields and chicken coops. If was just across
the road from im Arab village named Wadi Khawarct, which disappeared, with
the establishment of the State of Israel, when T was six years old.
As Prime Minister halt-a-century later, during my stubborn yet ultimately
fruitless drive to secure a final peace treaty with Yasir Arafat, there were media
sugaestions that my childbood years gave me a personal understanding of the
pasts of bath our peoples, Jews and Arabs, in the land which each of us saw as
our own. But that is in some ways misleading. Yes, [ did know first-hand that
we were nol alone in eur ancestral homeland. AL no point in my ehildhood was 1
ever taught to hate the Arabs. I never did, even when, in my vears defending the
security of Israel, [ had to fight, and defeat, them. But my conviction that they,
too, needed the apportunity to establish a state came only later. afler my muny
‘years in uniform. and especially when, as deputy chiet-of-staft under Yitzhak
Rabin. we were faced with the explosion of violence in the West Bank and Gaza
that became known as the first inifidda, And while my determination as Prime
Minisier Ly find 2 negotiated resolution 10 our conflict was in part based on a
recognition of the Palestinian Arabs’ national aspirations, the main impulse was
my belief that such a compromise wus proformdly m fhe interest of Israel: the
Jewish stale whose birth | witnessed, whose exisience [had spent decades
defending on the battlefield and which [ was ultimately elected to lead.
Zionism, the political platform for the establishment of a Jewish state,
emerged m the late 1800s in response 10 a brutal reality. And that, wo, wis i
parc of my own family’s story. Most of the world’s Jews. who lived in the
Russian empire and Poland, were trapped at the time in a vise of poverty,
powerlessness ad anti-Semitic violence, Kven m the democracies of Western
Europe, Jews were not necessarily secure. Theodor Tec, a thoroughly
assimilated Jew in Vienna, published the foundation text of Zionism in 1896. It
was called Der Judensiaat, “Jews hae sincerely tried everywhere to merge
with the nations] communities in whiel we live, seeking only W preserve the
faith of our fathers,” he wrote. “In vain are we loyal patriots. sometimes super-
loyal, In vain do we make the seme sacrifices of life and property as our fellow
citizens... Tn our native lands where we have lived [or centuries, we are still
decried as aliens.” Zionisi’s answer was the establishment of a stare of our
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owe, in which we could achieve the sell-deteemination and security denied Lo us
elsewhere.
During the 1890s and the early years of the new century, more than a million
Jews fled Kastem Europe, but mostly for America, It was only m the 1920s and
1930s that significant numbers arrived in Palestine. Then, within a few years,
Hitler rose to power in Germany. The Jews of Europe faced not just
discrimination or pogroms. They were systematically, mdustially, murdered.
From 1939 until carly 1942 when | was born, nearly two million Jews were
killed. Six million would die by the end of the war. Almost the whole world.
including the United States, rejected pleas fo provide u haven for those wha
might hive been saved. Even afler Hitler was defeated, the British shu the
doors of Palestine 0 those who had somehow survived.
EE
Twas three when the [Tolocaust ended. and it was three years later that Israel
was established in May 1948. and nicighboring Arab states sent in their smmies
101ry 10 $nulT the state out in its infancy. It would. again, be some years before |
fully realized that this first Arab-Israeli war was the start of an essential tension
in my country’s life, and my own: between the Jewish etbical ideals ut the core
af Zionism and the reality of our having wo tight, and sometimes even kill, in
order to secure. establish and safeguard our state. Yet even as a small child, T
was keenly aware of fhe historic events swirling around me.
Mishmar Hushavon, the hamlet north of Tel Aviv where [spent the finst 17
years of my life. was one of the early kibbutzim. These collective farming,
settlements had their roots in Herz1’s view that an avant-garde of “pianeers™
would ned To settle i homeland tht was still ceonomeally undeveloped, snd
where even farming was difficult. Members of Jewish youth groups from
Fastern Furape, among them my mother, provided most of the pioneers,
drawing inspiration not just From Zionism but by the sill untainted colleetivist
ideals represented by the triumph of Communist aver he czas in Russi.
Tuis hard for people who didn’t live through that time to understand the
mindset of the kibbutrniks. They had higher aspirations thn simply planting the
sods oli ule stale. They wanted lo be part of anstorming whi if mes lo
be a Jew, The act of first taming, and then farming, the soil of Palestine was nat
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just an economic imperative. TL was seen as deeply symbolic, signifying Jews
finally taking control of their own destiny. It was a message that took on an
even greater power and poignancy after the mass murder of the Jews of Furope
during the Holoesust
Liven fur many Israelis nowadays, the all-consuming collectivism of life on
an early kibbutz, and the physical challenges, are hard to imagine. Among; the
few dozen families in Mishmar Hasharon when [was bom, there was no private
property. Everything wes communally owned und allocated. Every penny — or
Israeli pound earned from what we produced went into a communal kitty,
from which each ane of the 150-ar-sa families m Mishmar Hasharan when |
was a child gol a small weekly allowance. By “small”. 1 mean tiny. For my
parents and others, even the idea of an ice cream cone for their children was a
matter of keen financial planning, More often, they would sive each weekly
pittance with the aim of pooling them at birthday time, where they might sireich
to the pries of a picture book, or a small toy.
Decisions on any issue of importance were taken at the aseifiv. the weekly
mccling of kabbutz members eld on Suturday nights in onr dining ball. The
agenda would be tacked up ou the wall the day before, and the session would
usually focus on one issue, ranging from major items like the kibbutz's finances
10 the question, for instance, of whether our small platoon of defery divers
should be given pocket money 10 buy a sandwich or a coffee on their days
outside ihe kibbutz or be limited to wrapping up bits of the modest fare on offer
at breakfast time, That debate ended in a classic compromise: 4 bit of money,
but very fille, s0 as 10 avoid violating ie egalitarian thos of the kibbuiz,
But perhaps the aspect of life on the kibbutz most difficult foc ousiders w
understand, especially nowadays, is that we children were ussed collectively,
We ved in dormitories, organized by age-group and overseen by a carciver:
iin Lcbeew. a merapeler, usually a woman in ber 208 ur 30s. For a few hours
each afternoon and on the Jewish Sabbath, we were with our parents. But
otherwise, we lived imd lcamed in a world consisting ubmost entirely of other
childuen.
Everything around us was geared towards making us feel like a band of
‘brothers and sisters, and as part of the guiding spirit of the kibbutz, Until aur
Teenage years, we werenl even graded in school. And though we did’L actually
study how to ill the land, some of my fondest early memories are of our
“children’s Farm” — the vegetables we grew, the cows we milked, the hens sud
chickens that gave us our first experience of how life was created. Aud the
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aroma always walling tom the stone oveos in the bakery at the heact of the
Kibbutz, where we could see the bare-chested young men producing loaf alier
Touf of bread, nat just for Mishmar Hasharon but villages and towns for miles
wound ws.
Until our teenage years, we lived in arrow, oblong lomes, four of us lo a
room, unfumished except for our beds, under which we placed our pair of shoes
or sandals. At ane end of the comdor wis u set of shelves where we collected a
clean set of underwear, panls and socks cach week. Al the other end were the
toilets at thar point, the only indoor toilets on the kibbutz, with real toilet-
sats, rather than just holes m the ground, All of us showered together until the
uae of twelve, 1ean't think of a single one of us who went on 10 Tory someone
[com our own age-group in the kibbutz. Tt would have seemed almost
incestuous,
Mistmin Haashavan and other kibbutzim have long since abandoned the
practice of collective child-rearing. Some in my generation look back on the
way we were raised not only with regret, but pain: a sense of parental absence,
abandonment or neglect. My own memos, and those of most of the children |
grew up with, are more positive. The irony is that we probably spent more
waking time with our parents than town or city children whose mothers and
fathers worked nine-to-five jabs. The difference came at bedtime, or during the
night. If you woke up unsettled, ov ill, the only immediate prospeet of comfort
was [rom the metapeled, or another of the kibbutz grown-ups who might be on
overmght duty. Stull, my childhood memories are overwhehmmgly of feeling
happy, safe, protected. | do remember waking ip once, fale on a stormy winter
night when Twas nine, in the grips of a tereible fever. Pd begun to hallucinate. T
sot to my feet and, without the thought of looking anywhere else for lielp, made
sy wobbly wiry through the nisin 10 my parents” room snd fell into their bed
They hugged me. They dabbed my forehead with water. The next moraiag, my
father wrapped me in a blanket and took me back to the children’s home.
To the extent that | was aware my ehldhood was different, 1 was given to
understand it was special, that we were the beating heart ofa Jewish state about
1o be born. T once asked my mother why other children got to live in their own
apartments i places hike Tel Aviv, “They ure ironim,” she sind. City-dwellers.
Her lone made it clear they were To be viewed us a slightly lesser species.
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Though bath my paseals were pact of the pioncer generation, ny mother,
unlike my father, acuwally arrived as a pioncer, part of a Jewish youth group
fiom Paland that came directly to the kibbutz. In addition to being more
swsally outgoing than my Rther, shi came lo see Mishmar Hasharon has her
extended (amily and spent every one of her one hundred years there.
Esther Godin. as the thea was, grew up in Warsaw. Born in 1913, she was
the oldest of the six children of Samuel and Rachel Godin, Polind at fhe time
was home 10 the lavgest Jewish community in the world, more than 3 milli by
the time of the Holocaust. While the Jews of Poland had a long: history, the
Godin did not, Before the First Warld War, my mofher’s parents made fheir
way from Smolensk in Russia lo Warsaw, which was also under warist sul.
When the war was over. the Bolshevik Revolution had toppled the czars. Poland
became independent, under the nationalist general Josef Pilsuldsii, The Godins
had a decision lo make: either retucn Lo now-Communist Russia oc stay iu the
new Polish state. though without eilizenship because they liad not been bora
there. No doubt finding comfort. community and a sense of safety amid the
hundreds of thousands of Jews in the Polish eipital, they chose Pilsuldski over
Lenin. They lived in what would become the Warsaw Ghetto, on Nalewski
Street, where Sanwel Godin eked out a living as a bookbinder.
My mother came to Zionism as i teenager, und it was easy to understnd
wehy she, ike so many of the other young Jews around her, was dave lo iL. She
saw how hard her parents were struggling economically, oa the refugee fringes
of a Jewssh community itself precariously pliced in a newly assertive Polind.
She sin no fume Gor hersel Fihere. Though she attended 3 noroal state-run high
school, she and her closest [ricads joined & Zionist youth group called Gordonia,
which had been founded in Poland barely a decade earlier. She started studying
Hebrew. Finch summer, from the ge of 13, she and her Gordon Friends would
spend deep in the Carpathian Mountains. They worked for local Polish
landowners, learning the rudiments of how to farm and the rigors of simple
physical labor. aie into the evening. they would fin not just abort sgneuliure
but Jewish history. the land of Palestine. and how they haped to put both their
new-found skills and the Zionist ideals into practice.
She had just turned 22 when she set off for Mishmar Hasharon with 60 other
Gordouia pioneers in the summer of 1935. 1 took them nearly a week to pet
there. They travelled by train south through Poland. passing nol fac from the
little town of Osswigeim which would later become infamous as the site of fhe
Auschywilz concenteation camp. Then. on through Tlungacy and across Romania
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to the grand old Black Sea part of Constaata, and by ship through the
Bosphorus. past Istanbul, and on to Tlaifa on the Palestinian coast, from where
they were taken by truck to their bunk-bed rooms in one of a dozen prefib
structures on the recently established kibbutz, Though the water came from a
well, and it lacked even the basic ereatuse comforts of thie cramped Godin
apartment in Warsaw, thar, to my mother. was just pat of the challenge, and the
dreamt, she'd embraced and had come wo define her. J know that she felt, va
arriving in the kibbutz, tha only now was her life truly beginning.
Tt was a feeling that never left her. Yet it was always clouded by the memory
of the family she left behind, When fhe Second World War bean in September
1939, the Germans, ancl then the Soviets, invaded. overran and divided Poland.
Twa of my mother’s three sisters fled to Moscow. Tler teenage brother Avraham
went underground, joining the wnti-Nizi partisans. All three would survive the
wer. Yet in the autumn of 1940, the rest of her family fouad themselves inside
the Warsaw Ghetto with the city’s other 100,000 Jews. My mother’s pares
died there, along with her 13-year-old brother lizik and her litle sister enya,
who wis auly 11.
When my mother arrived in the kibbutz, her Gordonia lviends assumed she
would marry a young man named Ya'akov Margalit, the leader of their group
buck in Warsaw. But the budding romance fell yictm fo the Zomst cause, As
she was embarking on her new lit, Je was frequently back in Poland waining
and accanging papers for further groups of pioneers. Tle continued to write her
long, heartfelt letters, But the letters had fo be brought from the centeal post
alfice in Tel Aviv, amd the kibbuumile who Fetched the mail was 1 quict,
dimunitive 25-year-old named Yisrael Mendel Brog — my father. Known as
Srulik. his Yiddish nickname. he had come to Palestine five years earlier. Fe
ws an ovelinany Libbuz worker. He drove a tractor.
My father’s initial impulse in coming Ww Palestine was more personal than
political. He was born, in 1910, in the Jewish hie! of Pushelat in Lithuania,
near the larger Jewish town of Ponovezh, u major scat of rabbinic leaning und
teaching. His own father. though the only meniber of the Pushelat community
with rabbinical training, made his living as the village pharmacist. Many of the
rangghly 10,000 Jews who lived there had left for America m the great exodus
from Russian aud Polish lauds st the ond of tie 19% century. By the time my
father was born, the community had sheunk to only about 1,000. When he was
two years old. a fire broke out, destroying dozens of homes, 1s well as the
shiell’s ouly synagogue. Donations soon artived [zom the US, and my paternal
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grandfather was put in charge of holding the money until cebuilding plans were
worked out. The problem was that word spread quickly about the rebuilding
fund. On the night of September 16, 1912, two burglars burst into my
srmdlithir’s home and stoke the mony. They beat him and my wandmother to
death with an axle wrenched loose om a neacby carciage. Their four-year-old
son Meir — ny father’s older brother ~ suffered a deep wound from where the
attackers drove the metal shall into bis head. Ue carried a gol bel l-sized
indentation in his forchead foe the rest of his life. My father had burrowed into a
comer, and the attackers didn’t see him
The two orphaned bays were raised by their paternal grandmother, Jzila. Yet
wy ret lo nomnaley they may have experienced was cut short by the
outbreak of the First World War, forcing ec to flee with them by train ahead of
the advancing German army. They ended up some 1,50 miles south, in the
Crimean city of Simferopol. Initially under czarist cule, then the Bolsheviks and
from lace 1917 wl the ead of the war under the Germans, they had to deal with
cold. damp and a chronic shortage of food. My Uncle Meir quickly learned how
to survive. He ler told me that he would run aller German supply canfuges
and collect the odd potato that fell oft the back. Realizing that the German
soldiess had been wrenched from their own families by the war, he began taking
ny futher with him on weekends lo the neighborhood near their barracks, where
the soldiers would sometimes give them cookies, or even a loal of bread. Yet
they were deprived of the basic ingredients of a healthy childhood: nutritious
food and a warm. dry room in which to sleep. By the time Itzila brought them
back w seule in Ponovezh at the cud of the war, my Ruther was diagnosed with
the bone-development disease, rickets, caused by the lack of Vitamin I) in their
diet.
In another way, however, my father was the more fortunate of the bays. The
Tost schooling of those wartime years came at a less formative Lime for him than
for his brother. Meir never fully made up the lost ground in school. My father
simply began his Jewish primary education, cheder, a conple of years hier than
usual. Te thrived there. SHIL when it was time for him Lo enter secondary
education. he decided against going on with his religious education. Meir was
preparing fo leave for Palestine, so my futher enrolled in the Hebrew-language,
Zionist high school. When hie graduated, one of the many Brog relatives who
were by now living in the United States. his Uncle Jacob, tried to persuade him
to come to Pittsburgh for university studies. But with Meir signing on as his
sponsor with the British Mindeate anthorines, he leit for Palestine shortly before
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his twentieth birthday. Jacob did still insist on helping financially, which
allowed my father to caroll at the [cbrew University in Jerusalem.
He did well in his studies literature, history and philosophy but
abandoned them afer two years, His explanation for nol staying on, when |
asked him years later, was that with the aceelerating activily of the Zionist
pioneers. it fel wrong to him to spend his days going: to lectures, reading books
and writing essuys. 1am sur thi he also fel isolated and alone, with Meir, the
only link 10 his life before Palestine, working in Haifa on the coast, four or five
hours by bus trom Jerusalem. When he began looking for a way to become part
of the changes woing an around him, Mishmar Hasharon didn’t yet exist, Its
founding core — u dozen Russian Jewish pionicers — was still working on
argicullural settlements near Terzliya, north of Tel Aviv, until they found a
place to start their kibbutz, But they had been joined by several young men and
women who, though a year or two older than my father, had been with him at
the Iebrew Iligh Sehivol in Ponovesh. Tle decided Lo join them.
Late in 1932, the Jewish National Fund, supported financially by leading
Jewish figures in western Europe and the US, bonght 2,000 acres from an Arab
landowner near Wadi Khawarel. The area was sel aside for three Jewish
settlements: a moshav called Kfar Haim, where the land was divided into family
plots, and two kibbuizim. One was called Muabarot, Next fo it was Mishmar
Hasharon, My Rather was mong the seventy youngsters who set off in three
trucks with everything they figured they would need to tura the hard, scrubby
Till into a kibbutz, They built the core from pre=fab kits: wooden huts to sheep in
anda tightly bger one for the dining hall. They dug a well sud ordered a
pump from Tel Aviv, at first for drinking and washing. but soon allowing them
to begin a vegetable garden, a dairy with a dozen cows, a chicken coop with a
Few hundred hens, and to plant first orange grove snd a small vineyard.
Sill, by the time my mother arived three years later, there were not enough
citrus trees, vines, cattle and chickens to occupy a membership which now
numbered more than 200. Along with some of the others, my Father worked
ouside the kibbute, caning a regular paycheek to help support the collective.
Ou his way back, he would stop at the post office in Tel Aviv tw pick up letters
and packages for the rest of the kibbutz including Yu'ukov Margalit’s love
Totter to my mother. That was hos my parents” Gricodship began, low a
friendly hello led to shared conversation at the ead of my father’s working day.
and how, u few years kiter, my mother decided to spum her Gordania suitor in
favor of Srulik Brog. the posunan. Tt was not watil 1939 that they moved in
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together. They didn't bother getting married until the summer of 1941. Perhaps
because this was less than nine months before | was ben, my mother always
remained vague when asked their exact wedding date,
My prents were am unlikely pane, My mother brghi, lively und energetic
was a doer. who believed passionately in the grand social experiment of kibbutz
lite. Having helped her mother raise her siblings in Warsaw. and with a natural
affinity from children, she became the main authority on issues related to
childbirth and early childeare. She actively pattook iu the kibbuiz's planning
and politics, and reveled in its social life. My father was more detached both
politically and soerally. He was mare contemplative, less ussertive, less self
contin. | hough bic agneed broudly with the founding principles of the
Kibbutz. and wanted to play his role in making it a success, T could see. as
grew alder, that he was often impatient at what he saw as its mtellectual
insularity and its ideological rigidities.
Though it didn’ strike me al the Lime, he was nol a large man. As a result of
his childhood illness, he never grew to more than five-foot-tour. Still. he was a
powerful prescrice, stocky and strong from bis work on the kibbutz, He hid a
deep, resunaut voice and wise-looking. blue-gray eyes. IL was only through
Uncle Meir that by the time I was bom, he had moved on from driving: a tractor
fo a mor influentiyl role an the labbutz, Meir worked far the Palestme Electne
Company and when Mishmar Hasharon installed its own electricity system, the
PEC was in charge of the work. Meir trained my father and put him forward as
the kibbutz contact far maintaining and repairmy the equipment, He was well
sirled for the work. He was aiusal finkorer, a problem-solver. He wis good
with his hands, and his natural caution was an additional asset as the kibbutz got
fo prips with the potential, and the potential dangers. of electric power. Once the
system was instilled, hie became vesponsible for ruunaging amy spect of the
settlement that involved electricity! water pumps, the irrigation system, the
communal laundry and our bakery.
My pirents were courleans and polite with cach other, but they never
showed any physical affection in our presenee. None of the adults did. ‘This was
part of an unspoken kibbutz code. Not only for kibbutzaiks. but for all the early
Ziomists, outward displays of emotion were seen as a kind of selfishness that
sisked undermining communal cohesion, tonecily and strength, Besuuse 1d
Known no other way, this did not strike me as odd. Besides. T was a quiet,
contemplative, bookish and sclf-canfiined child, Only im kite years did | come to
see the Jasting effect on me. IL was be a long time before T became comfortable
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showing my feelings. beyond my immediate family aod a few close frieads
When T was in the army. his wasn't an issue. Selcouteol, especially in high-
pressure situations, was a highly valued asset, But im politics, [ think that it did fora
considerable time mbabit my ability lo conneel with the public, or ut least wilh
the news media thal played such a writical intermediary sole. And it caused me
fo be seen not just as reserved or aloof, but sometimes as cold, or arrogant.
1 did get mueh that 1 value from my parents. From my mother, her
boundless energy, activism, her atiention detail, and her focus on causes
larger than herself her belief that politics mattered. Also her love for art and
literature, When | wauld come home from the ¢hildren’s dormitory to my
parents’ room — just ine feet by fen, with # wooden trundle bed fo save space
during the day — there was always a novel oc a book of verse sharing the small
table with my parents” mast single prized possession: their kibbutz-issue radio,
As achld, however, | spent mie more time with my father. He was my
guide, my protector and role model. Like my mother, he never mentioned the
trials which they and their families endured betore arriving in Palestine. Nor did
they ever speak to me m any detail about the Holocaust. No onc on the kibbutz
did. 11 was as it the memories were seabs they dared not pick at. Also, it
seemed, because they were determined to avoid somehow passing on these
remembered sadnesses to thei sons and daughters, Still, when 1 was ten or
cleven, my father did — once, inadvertently — open a window on his childhood.
Every Saturday morning, we would listen 10 a classical music concert on my
parents” radio, One day, as the beautiful melodies of Tehuikovsky's violin
concerto in 1) eamic through the vadio, 1 was siruck by the amost iraneelike look
that came over my father’s face. TTe seemed to be in another, faraway, place.
‘When the music ended, he turned and told me about the first time he'd heard it
1 wass on the Insin ride ino Crimean exile with liza and Meir in the sinfy dys
of the First World War. The teain took five days to reach the Crimea and
sometimes halted for hours at a time. Every evening, a man at the far end of
their camrisge would take out his vio nd play the seeond movement of the
Tchaikovsky concerto
Thave heard the piece in concert halls many times since. When the orchestra
begins the second movement with the violin notes climbing higher, trembhng
ever sa subtly — it seuds a shiver dawn my spine. | can’t help thinking of the
railway car in which my then foue-yeac-old father and other Jews from
Panaverh escaped the Great War of 1914, And of other trains, m another war 25
years later, carrying Jews not to safety but to death camps.
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Listening 10 he concert progeam inl my paseals® oom was something 1
always looked forward 10. Tt was my father who encouraged me, when [ was.
eight, to begin learning to play the piano, I took lessons once a week all during
my clhnldhood slong with several other of he kabbus children. When we got old
enough, we took urs playiog a short piece — the secular, kibbutz equivalent of
an opening prayer at the Friday-night meal in the dining hall. I have always
clierished being able to play. Sitting dows at the piano and immersing mysell in
Tohaikovsky, Beethoven, Schubert or Mozart never ecascs lo bring me a sense
of calm, freedom and, especially nowadays, when [ have finally worked ta
master a particularly intricate piece. a feeling of pure joy.
PE
Asa young child, © spent most of my waking hours in the company of ny
several dozen hibbulz “siblings” in the childsen’s home, the dining hall, or
running through the open spaces in the center of the kibbutz with ou metapelet.
She would ofien fake us through the orange groves in the aftemom, sd
sometimes ac0ss the main wad to the Arsh village.
Wadi Khawaret consisted of a few dozen concrete homes built back from a
min sweet bordered by shops amd storehouses. She would buy us sweets m the
litle grocery store. The man behind the counter had a kindly, weathered face
and a dark moustache. Dressed in a gray gafabiva and a keffiyeh. he smiled
when we came m. There was ilways a group of Palestmian women, in full-
engi robes. seated on stoops outside bresusifoeding their babies. We saw calle,
bulls. even the odd buffalo, being led 1 or from the fields. 1 sensed no hostility,
and certainly uo hatred, toward us in the village. The people seemed warn, and
benignly indifferent to the dozen Jewish loddlers and thei mesapeler. My own
attitude to Wadi Khawaret was of beniga curiosity. T did not imagine that within
a couple of years we would be on opposite sides of a war. 1 enjoyed these visits.
as Lenoyed every punt of my carly childbood. Hach age-group on the kibbutz
wes given a name. Ouws was called dror. It was the Hebrew word for
“freedom”.
But dro was also the name of one of the Jewish youth movements in the
Warsaw Gihello, heroes in their doomed uprising against ihe Nazis. Litke by
little, from about the age of five. I became more aware of the suftering the Jews
Tal so recently endured in the lands my parents had left behind, the growing
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tension around us and the sense thal something momentous was bout to happen
as the prospect of a state gol eloser
The memories remain with me to this day, like a series of snapshots, It was
on a spring moming in 1947 that 1 got my first real sense that the Jewash state
was something which would have be fought for, and that youngsters not all that
much older than me would have a critical role to play. I got a close-up lock at
the elite of the Zionist militias, the Patmach, tt numbered something Fike 6,000,
from a pre-siate force wialing around 40.000. The Palmachniks were highly
‘motivated, young political activists. They had no fixed base. Each platoon,
almost ull of them teenagers, spent five or six manths at « time on various
Kibbuwzinm. For the first 1wo weeks of eich month, they would carn their keep by
working in the fields. They spent the oflier weeks taining. Thad just turned five
when | watched three dozen Palmach boys and girls, in their T-shirts and shore
Khaki pants, rappel confidently down the side of one of our few concrete
buildings. The building was only 25 or 30 feet high. but it looked like a
skyscraper from my perch on the grass in front. and the feat of the young
Pabmachniks seemed 1o me nothing shoul of heroic.
A few months later, on a Sawrday allernoon in Nuverber 1947, [crowded
into my parents” room as the Haganah radio station crackled out its account of a
United Nations debate on the future of Palestine, The session was the onfeome
ofa loug train of events starting with Britain's acknowledgement that its
mandate to rule over Palestine was unsustainable. The British had proposed a
series of amangements to wecommodate both Arab und Jewish aspirations. Now,
thie UN was meeting fo consider The idee of splittisig Palestine into wo nes
states, one Arab and the other Jewish.
Since the partition was based on existing areas of Arab and Jewish
settlement, the proposed Jewash site looked like s boomerang. with a fon.
very narrow center strip along the Mediterranean, broadening slightly into the
Galilee in fhe north and the arid coastline in the south. Jerusalem, the site of the
ancient Jewnsh temple, was not part of it. 1 was to be pliced under intermational
sule. By no means all Zionist leaders were happy with partition. Many, on both
the political right and the left, wanted a Jewish state in all of Palestine, with
Jerusalem as its conterpicee. But Ben-Gurion and the pragmatic miinstream
wgued that UN endorsement of 8 Jewish state — no mailer what its borders, even
with a new Palestinian Arab state alongside it — would represent a historic
achievement, The proceedings went on for hours, At sundown, we had to Tetum
io the children’s home. But we were woken before dawn. The vote (or partition
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= for the Jewish state Tlerel had first decamed of $0 years before — had been
won. A huge bonfire blazed in front of the bakery. All around us the grown-ups
were singing and dancing in celebration,
On the Arh side, there wis no rejoicing. very one of the Arab delegations
ut the UN voted against padtition, rejecting a Jewish state even if it was erated
along with a Palestinian Arab one. Violence erupted the next day. An aack on
bus near Lydd, near the road up to Jerusalem, left six Jews dead. Similar
wicks oceurred around the country. Shooting broke out in mixed Arib-und-
Jewish towns and cities: Jatfa on the southern edge of Tel Aviv. Safed, Tiberias
and Haifa in the north, and in Jerusalem,
allowed all ris with curiosity and trepidation trough my hilting alicmpls
to read Davar le Yeladim, the weekly children’s edition of the Labour Zionist
newspaper Davar, We children felt an additional connection with what wus
going om. One of our Dror housemates, boy aed iors Ros, had left the
year before when bis father took & job in Jerusalem. As the battle for the city
aged through the end of 1947 and into 194R, its besieged Jewish residents
fongeht for their ives, We sent our friend packuges of clothing and food, which
we saved up by cating only half of an cpp at break fast and smaller portions al
dinner.
The mood darkened further at the end of January 1948, four months before the
Brith departed. A cluster of settlements known as Gush kizion, south of
Jerusalem near che hills of Berhlehem. also came under siege. Around midnight
on January 15, a unit of Haganah youngsters set oft on foot w try to break
ttnongh, They became known ws “The 35”. Marching through the night from
Jerusalem, they had made it only within a couple of miles of Gush Iitzion when
they were surrounded and attacked by local Arabs, By late afternoon, all of
them were dead. When thie British wut horites recovered their badies, they fond
hat the enemy had not simply killed them. All of the bodies had been battered
and broken. Rumors spread that in some cases, the dead men’s genitals had
been cut off and shoved mio their mouths, Since | was soll 4 few weeks shout of
my sixth birthday. | was spared that particular detail. But not the sense of horror
over what had happened, nor the central message: the lengths and depths to
which the Arubs of Palestine seemed ready to go in their fight against us,
“Uit’alelu bagafin” ves the only slightly sanitized account we children were
given. “They mutilated the corpses?”
Even afler The partition vate, slatchood was nol given. In tie weeks before
ihe British lef. two senior Americans —the ambassador to the UN and Secretary
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al State George €. Marshall - recommended abandoning or at least delaying the
declaration of an Tseacli stale. Yet Ben-Gurion feared that any delay risked the
end of any early hope of statehood, After he managed to secure a ane-vote
sijonily in his de facto cabmet, Uh state was declared on May 14, 1948
And hours later, the armies of five Arab states crossed into Palestine.
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Chaplet Two
The 1948 war und the decide tht followed remain vivid in my mind not just
for the obvious reason: they secured the survival of the infant state of Israel and
saw it into a more assured and independent young adulthood. It was also the
time when [grew from a young ¢hild introspective and contemplative, aware
of how quickly my mind seemed to grasp numbers and geometric shapes and
‘musical notes, but also small for my age and awkward at the sports we'd play
on the dusty field at the fur edie of the kibbutz into a sense of my own place
iu the Family and community and the country around me. | did, along the way.
‘become arguably the most effective left defensive hack on our kibbutz soccer
team, But that was not because | suddenty discovered a buried talent for the
same. Physically, T was like my father. T had natural hand coordination which
made delicate tasks come easily — one reason 1 would soon discover a pastime
that lent itself to ucts of kibbutz mischief bardering on juvenile delinquency,
Bul when if came lo larger miseles, 1 was bpless, i 0) hopeless. My prowess
as a socoer defenseman was because no oppasing player in bis right mind, once
I'd inadvertently cut his knees from under him when aiming for the ball, felt it
was worth coming anywhere elose fo me.
But when the war broke out in camest in the spring of 1948, my focus, like
that of all [sraelis, was on the fighting. which even the youngest of us knew
would determine whether the state would survive at all. Day ufter day, my
father helped me to chart cach major advice wnd setback on a ttle map.
Dozens of kibbutzim around the country were in the line of fire. Some had soon
fallen, while others were hurely managing to hang on, Just five miles inland
from us, un Isuseli seitlerent came under sitasck by an ngi force in the nearby
Arab village of Qagun
But inside Mishmar Hasharon, [ had the almost surreal feeling that this great
historical drama was somethmg happenmiz everywhere else bul on our kibbutz.
If it hadn't been for the radio, or the newsreels which we saw in weekly movie
nights in the dining hall, and the litle map on which [ traced its course with my
father, 1 would barcly hive known a war was going on, One Arab army did get
near 10 us: the leagis, in Qaquu. IF they had advanced a tow miles further. they
could have overrun Mishmar Hasharon, reached the coast and cut the new
Jewnsh state m half, | can still remember the rumble of what sounded like
thunder one morning in June 1918, as Lhe Alexandronis, one of the twelve
brigades in the new Israeli army, launched their decisive artack on the Iragis.
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“Na reason to be afcaid.” vue mesapeler opt telling me. That aly made me
move scared. Yet within a few hours, everything was quiet again, and never
again did the shellfire get near to us, A few weeks later, 1 heard the only gunfire
inside the kibbutz itself. [1 came from the lop of ow waler lower. The mun on
euard duty thought he saw movenient on the road outside. But it turned out to
be nothing.
It wasn’t until well into 1949 that formal agreements were signed and
“armistice line” borders drawn with the Arab states. By the measure that
matcered most survival Israel had won and the Arab attackers had lost.
Jordan did end up in control of the West Bank, as well as the castem half of u
divided city of Jerusalem, including the walled Old City and the site of the
ancient Jewish temple. The new Tsrae] remained, at least geographically.
vulnerable, It was just 11 miles wide around Tel Aviv and even namower,
barely half that, near Mishmar Iasharou. Ceyplian-held Gaza was seven miles
[rom the southern [sracli city of Ashkelon and just 40 rom the outskins of Tel
Aviv.
Ise] did sceure control of the entire Galilee, up 1o the pre-war borders with
Lebanon and Syria, aud of the Negev Desert in the south. ‘The territory of our
new state was about a third larger than the area proposed under the UN partition
phim rejected by the Arabs, Yet the victory cme at 2 heavy price: more than
6,000 dead, one per cent of the Jewish population of Palestine al thie lime. It was
as if America had lost two million in the Vietnam War. One-third of the Israeli
dead were Holocaust survivors,
The Anh paid s heavy price wo, and nol just the roughly 7,000 people who
lost their lives. Nearly 700.000 Palestinian Arabs had fled - or. in some cases,
been forced to flee towns and villages in what was now Israel. The tull extent
und circumstances of the Arabs” Might became known lo us ut Mishmar
Lieshacon only later. But it did not take long 1o notice the change around ws.
Wadi Khawaret was physically still there, but all of the villagers were gone. As
fia as [contd discover, none id been killed, They left with a first wave of
refugees in April 1948, and eventually ended up near 1 ulkarem on the West
Bank. After the war. the Israeli government divided up their farmland among,
nearby kibbutzim ineluding Mish Hasharon.
The absence of our former neighbors in Wadi Khsware! seemed 10 me al the
time simply a part of the war. From the moment the violence started, I
understood there would be suffering on both sides. When we sent our care
packages to Giora Ros in Jecusalen, [remember Lying lo imagine what “living
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under siege” would feel like, and what would happen o Giora if it succeeded
Especially aller the murder and the mutilation of The 35, [assumed the war
would come down to a simple calculus, If there was going to be an Israel it’
there was omg fo be a Misha Hisshizon — we had To win und tie Arb had
10 lose. At fivst, even he fact our kibbutz had been given a share of the land of
‘Wadi Khawaret seemed just another product of the war. After all. Ben-Gurion
liad acecped the plan for two states. The Arabs had said no, deciding lo attack
us instead. Someone had to farm the land. Why vot us?
Yet events alter the war did lead me w begin tv ask mysell questions of
basic faimess, und whether we were being fiithful to same of the high-sounding
ideals heard spoken whout wath such pride on the kibbilz. The Palestinians
were pol the ooly refugees. Mose than 600.000 Jews fed fro [sracl from Arab
countries where they had lived for generations. More than 100.000 arrived from
rag, and several hundred thonsand from Morocco, Timsis and Algeria im north
Alrica. Immediately aller the wav, about $0,000 were airlified out of Yemen.
where they had endured violent atcacks ever since the UN partition vote.
The reality that greeted the Yemens in Israel was more complex, Most were
initially seuled in tented transit camps. I'm not sure how several dozen Yemeni
families made their way to Wadi Khawaret. bul it made sense for them to move
into fhe village's vacint hames. It was empty except for several deserted
buildings which we and other kibbutzin began wsing for storsge and, ler, for
our transport co-operative. Ye a few nights afer the Yemenis moved in, a
posse of young men. including some trom Mishmar Hasharon, descended on
hem and, sned with elubs id wooden staves, drove them away.
[was shocked. I'd seen the photos in Davar Je Yeladin celebrating the
airlift, with the Yemenis kissing the airport tarmac in relief, gratitude and joy at
finding vefinge in the new Israeli state. Now, for the “crime” oF maving into a
sow of cnply buildings in search of a decent place to live, they'd been beaten
up and chased away. By us. 1 realized Wadi Khawaret no longer belonged to the
Arabs. But, surely, our kibbutz had no mare right to the builds than Jews
whe had (led from Yemen and veeded them a lot more than we did. For days, |
fried to discover who had joined the vigilante attack. Though everyone seemed
10 know whl had happened, no one talked ihout il. In the dining hall, 1 ren my
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eyes over all the boys in their late teens and carly 20s. T was suce thet aflec
something like this there had 10 be some sign of who had done it. Bul they
Tooked the same as before, eating and talking as if nothing had happened.
The Yemems also needed jobs. This led 10 a challenge for Misti
Hasharon. ‘The core of the kibbutz ethos was that we would live from our own
labor. Yet Ben-Gurion insisted we and other kibburzim provide work for the
Yemenis and other new arrivals from the Arab states, We began hinng Yemeni
workers when | was about ten, the age when we kids started working for an
hour or so each day in the fields. We worked alongside several dozen Yemeni
women who lived a few miles north mn a masbarah, a transit settlement which
Hiutor evolved into a village called llyakhin, Esch moming, the Yemenis anived
ina bus, and they Jef at the end of their day’s work
don’t know whether | expected ta feel a Gordonian sense of jay af the
sedermptive value of physical labor when 1 began working in the fiehds. Our first
assigurment was o plant long tows of lower bulbs — gladioli — spaced at
intervals of four inches or so. Bur as 1 joined the other children and the Yemeni
women, what | Felt was more mumdane. Heal. Fatigue. Boredom. To make the
tine pass, | thought of it as a competition. Liach of us began together. planting
the bulbs in furrows stretching to the end of the field. The point was obviously
to do it right, But | found it interesting to see who fished first, and how much
longer it look the rest of us.
The same worker always led the way. She was a Yemeni in her carly thirtics.
Her name was Raddura, Short and stoclcy, with dark curly hair, she was nearly
hways smiling, whether we were planting bulbs, sowing seeds or picking
oranges and grapefruit and lemons, potataes or peppers and tomatoes. When I
remarked to her how much better and ster she was than fhe rest of us, she
iughed. SHll years away from growing into my adult body, {looked more like
sight- or a nine-year-old. She took me uader her wing. The next day, we were
picking tomatoes. “Da the row next to mine,” she said. Watching the almost
bulletic grace wath which she moved made it easier. [deeded it was hie
mastering a new picee on the piano. The sceret was 10 achieve kind of
unthinking fluidity, by focusing on the passage one or two ahead of the one you
were playing. Physically, Baddura was fir stronger than me. Before long,
howeser, | was Fishing my sowing or reaping a good ten yards ahead of the
other kids, and not loo fa behind her.
“Thongh the Yemenis worked fn our elds, they were nol menbers of the
LibbuLe. They were paid a day-rate. Though they were by fac the most
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productive workers, they got no share of wha we produced or possessed. A few
years later, Tsaised this at one of the sepacate aseifa meetings held by young
people on the kibbutz, only to be told we'd never wanted to employ outsiders in
the fist place. 1 was only becanse of Ben-Gurion ted we fell able 10 refine.
Ut sure that was true, but it seemed to me an incomplete answe, and an
evasion. It struck me as an exercise in finding a verbal rationale for a situation
that was obviously unjust
1 wes an accidental glance up from picking carrots which focused in my
mind the sense of unfaimess I felt. We were working on a tract of about seven
eres of rich, dark sol where we grew carrots, tomatoes and potatoes and
cgephants. 1 think {was 17 or 12. We had nsseblod in the carly aftemoon near
the kibbutz garage. We piled va to a Natbed trailer. a dozen kids and a dozen
Yemeni women, We were towed by a tractor driven by a man named Yankele,
Tle was in his mid-40s. Like my Father, he was one of the vriginal group at
Misha [ashacon. Beloce the Yemenis came, he had worked planting and
harvesting. Now, he was responsible for “managing” the Yemenis. and us kids
is well, during our fieldwork. He paced among 1s every bul Chonr or so 1 mike
sure the work was going smoothly. Though the arca was ankle-docp in mud
during in the winter, it was hot and dusty in the summer. I'd been working for
an hour ov so. crouching alongside Baddury, when {looked up. On the ede of
the field, under the shade of & elump of banana trees. | saw Yankele. 11e had a
set of keys on a metal chain. Tle was twirling thei around bis finger, first one
way. then the other. as his ees tracked us and our Yemeni co-workers. Like a
KibbuLnik-umed-plantation-owncr.
PE
As a Tebruary baby. Twas the youngest in our age group. Tu the tiny world of
the kibluz, there were not enough children to organize separate school classes
for each year. When | started school, 1 wiss Rve-and-aehall. Most of the others
were six. A few had alicady tured seven. Maybe it was this age pressure, or
maybe something inside me, but from the outset, 1 had a thirst for knowledge. I
was aware early an that some of the schoolwork came easily, almost
automatically 1 me: numbers and math aod reasoning most of all. | also began
reading books, even if T could not fully understand them. By the time Twas
cight or nme. 1 was burying myself m volumes of the children’s encyclopedic at
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the kibbutz libeacy, trying to untangle the mysteries of aicplanes and
automobiles, or the creation of worldly wonders, from the Tlanging Gardens of
Babylon to the Fmpire State Building and the Golden Gate Bride.
Al first, | gol many of the answers from my father. On Saturdays, we would
walk around the kibbutz as 1 plicd him with questions. In mauy ways, he always
lacked self-confidence. [ remember decades later. after he had passed away.
asking my mother how come they had spent their entire lives on the kibbutz and
never moved away. She replied: “What would your Biber have done ouside?”
But he had a quick mind and, despite having left Hebrew University carly. had
secured enough credits to wet his degree one of o handful of men on the
Kibbutz to ive done so. He delighted in scquiving. snd sharing, knowedge.
Low come the moon wasn't always round, [ remember asking him in one of
our first educational strolls. How did anyone fnow that the sabertooth tigers I'd
seen in the encyclopedia setudly exisid? And where were they now? There
was not a singh: question he did not try 1 help me answer. When | was nine or
ten, he took me to see the first water pump on the kibbutz. I watched as he
disssembled the ens, hen the power unit, which hid a big screw-Hike
clement in the middle. | wanted 1 know how it worked, how it was designed.
How it was made. A few months later, he took me to the tactory near Tel Aviv.
where the pumps were manufactured
Twas an inoveried child, not so much shy is self-contained. comemplasive,
at times dreamy. Our merpelet from when [ was three until age eight was
named Bina, She was the mother of twins a year younger than me, She was
mone harcbsome Than heantiful, with wavy dark hair. Bul she was full of
warnth. She was especially kind to me, which was no doubt one reason I felt
the effects of my collective upbringing less dramatically than some other
Kibbutz clldren. When we sere both such older. she used tell a slory about my
slightly ethereal approach 10 life when 1 was in her charge. One winter
afternoon when 1 was four, she took our group an fo the gentle rise on the
northern edge of the kibbutz, which at that time of year was full of wildflowers,
When she got there, she realized 1 had gone missing. Retracing her steps, she
found me standing in front of a rock in the middle of the dirt path. “Chud.” she
snd, “why didn’t you come with us?” | apparently replied: “1m thinking: which
side of the rock should | go around?”
Still, important though Bina was as a presence in my life, it was the
fnlenee of mother Gare — another youngster — who muttered more and for
longer. 11is name was Yigal Gacber. ln first rade, every child gol a mentor
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Yigal was mine. Solidly buill and sel-confident, with a knowing smile, he
would 20 on to become one of the most respected members of the kibbutz
Though [ was the only child he mentored, he was also in charge of our class’s
extreurricntar educational program. [began when | was len, and Yigal wis
sixtoca. It was & mix of ideological training — the Mibbule equivalent of what my
mother had done with her Gordonia friends in Poland — and a scouting course.
One evening a week, he would spend several hours with us. He begin by
sending 1s a story or a pocrn. One which | rementber with panieuls clarity
involved a slave who had a nail driven into his ear in hopes of remaining in his
master’s service forever, He had become enslaved not only in budy, but in
mind. Another night, Yigal read us un account of s Palmach unit sumed on
hill they had taken, with anti-personnel mines all around them. The readings
were gripping and they were always an entry-point for a discussion: how did we
understand the story? What would we do if laced with a similar choice?
When that part was over, be walked us into the fields ouside the kibbutz.
The only sound we heard was the occasional screech of a jackal. Sometimes, he
would split us into twos and hive cach piri set off from a far edge of the field
and find uur way back. Yigal stationed himsellat the enter. We would have to
sneak up and see which of us could et closest withaut his sein: or hearing us
appronch, (n his lust year with us before leavin for bis army service, he gave
cach of us w narrow wooden stick and began drilling us in the teenage
introduction 1o martial arts. But T was less interested in tha part of the training
thin the scouting exercises. Not only was 1 the youngest in our group, and the
smallest, except for a couple of the girls. Notwithstanding my accidental
prowess on the soccer field, Tlacked the strength and coordination 1o hold my
own in most physical contests at the time.
ore
ei then, shortly afier [med thirteen, 1 overheard u conversation between i
couple of older kids iu the dining hall. hey said there wes this guy in Gan
Shmuel, a kibbutz to the north of us, who had an “amazing” ability. Using a
strip of steel shaped to work fike a key, he could open locks even chunley Yale
padlocks. the gold standard in those days — i less thaw a mine
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Twas intrigued by the meebanical puzele and managed to locate two slightly
rusted Jocks. One was a Yale, the other an [sracli-made lookalike called a
Nabob, One evening after dinner, | searched the ground around the kibbutz
guruge for shurds of metal that looked hke they naght G1 nto the key slot, und
spent the nest half-hour or so propped against a tree, trying and failing to coax
either lock to open. I realized I would need to discover how the locks worked
But how 10 get inside to sce?
Saturday aflemoons in Mish Uasharon were a quiet time, like the old
Jewish neighborhoods and shtetls back in Europe but minus the religious
trappings, The next day, [waited until mid-afternoon and walked past the
bukery towards the garage. Its vol l-down, corrugated door was locked. So was
the structure next Lo it, where the blacksmith and metalwork shop were. But
attached to the blacksmiths was a hut where our scrap metal was dumped. [
doubted it would be locked, and it wasn't Pausing lo Jet my eyes get used to the
dark. T made my way int the metalwork area. 1 crossed 10 Lhe cabinet where the
tools were kept. I took out a steel jigsaw used for cutting through metal and,
hiding it nner my shirt, made my way onl again
Lurtunaely. the saw was up 10 the task of culling into the sofler alloy that
made up the body of the locks. Once 1d cut inside them, [ saw they shared the
same basic construction, ‘There was a series of springs and shafls which, in
sesponse 10 the indentations of a key. aligned in such a way to allow the lock 10
open. [sneaked back into the metalwork shop five or six times. By trial and
eror, [ managed to shape one of jigsaw blades into a pick tool that seemed like
should do the job. For dis, | manipulated it imo cach of The padlocks. | kuew
Thad the principle cight. but Tstill couldn’t gel it to work. Blisters formed oa my
thumb and tingers. Then, finally, the Yale sprung open! With each successive
fry | wot beter st knowing how 10 put the blide fn, when and where 0 rote it
and how much pressure Lo apply. After Fashioning a half-dozen other tools, cach
slightly different in width and shape, 1 reached a point where I could pet the
saechanism lo work on my First try. Other locks — coors, Trunks, closets — were
even easier afier [ made picks foc them as well
Tcouldn't resist sharing my newly acquired skill with a couple of the boys in
my class, amd word gradually spread. There was a handful of slightly older boys
who we referred 10 as the “rogues”. | hey weren't delinquents. They were free
spirits. bridling at the uniform expectations and rules of kibbutz life. Over the
next few years, as co-conspirators mare than close friends, 1 found myself
drawn 10 two of them. Tdo and Moshe were 18 months older than me. Though
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Tdo was just few inches over five feet, he was strong and athlelic, a star even
an the basketball court. Moshe was taller, if a bit overweight, Tle was nowhere
near as strong as do, but still stronger than me, and had a streetwise intelligence
ands sardine seas of humor. Both had tested the patience of or leachers to
breaking point. [do had been sent off to a vocational school in Netanya. Moshe
was moved to Mikveh Israel, a school which focused mostly on agriculture. On
Utiday evenings and Saturdays in the kibbutz, however, they filled their tine
with 2 variety of minor misdeeds. My role — the cement in our budding
partmership was as designated lock-picker.
Our first caper targeted the concrete security building near the dining hall. It
conteinedd the kibbutz ’s store of weapons, with a metal door scenred by a
padlock. Late one Friday night. with do and Moshe as lookouts, T erouchied in
front af the lek and took out my tools. In less than a minute, | had it open, We
daned into the stocecoon. These were about 80 rifles, along with a few machine
guas, on tacks along the walls. Ido wok a rifle from the furthest end of the cack
and wrapped it in a blanket. Moshe pocketed a box of atununition. As the
atliers hurried bck to our donmitory, | closed the lock, miking sure i ws fo the
same position 1°d found iL, and joined them. The next aflernoon, we stole away
through the moshav of Kfar layin into a field on the far side. We tesc-ired the
fle nul sunset, when we retmed to the labbutz and replaced it in the armory.
0 felt like the perfeet crime: foolproof, since 10 one was likely to notice
anything. Dssentially harmless. And repeatable, as we confirmed by returning
on Friday nights every month or two.
This modest pre-adoleseent rebellion never extended to doubling the national
mission of Tsrael. Growing up on a kibbutz in a country younger even than we
were, we all felt a part of its brief history. and irs future. That was especially
re afler my kibbutz menor, Yigal, left for his mifilary service and joined one
of the Tseacli amy’s elite units
The 1918 war had been won. But it had not brought peace. Palestinian
irregular, fedayeen operating from Jordan and the Gaza Sp, momited hit-mds
sun raids. (1 armed ambushes or by planting mines, they killed dozens of lseacli
civilians and injured hundreds more. The country was in no mood for another
war, The newly created Israeli armed forces known as Tada, & Hebrew
weronym for the Issac Defense Force — also seemed to have lost the cutting
edge, or perhaps the desperate motivation, of the pre-state militias. AL first, Ben-
Gunon relied an young recruits in the new army’ infuntry brigades to counter
the fedayeen auacks. Nearly 90 reprisal operations were launched in 1952 and
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carly 1953. Neadly all coded with the soldiers failing to ceach their target or
taking casualties. Sometimes both.
By mid-1953, the army decided to set up [srael’s first dedicated commando
force, 11 wis called Unit 101, 1 was led by i 25-year-old named Ariel Sharon,
wha had been a platoon commander in 1948. With Ben-Gurion and especially
his army chiet-of-staff, Moshe Dayan, determined to hit back hard at the
feduyeen atfiucks, Sharan took a few dozen hand-picked soldiers and began
outing a differcat kind of selitory witacks. | he largest, in October 1953,
was in response to the murder of a woman and her two children in their home in
centrul Israel, It was wgainst the West Bank village of Qibya. Shuron and bis
commndas surrounded and attacked the village, destroying homes and other
buildings — and killing at least 40 villagers sheltering inside them. Tscael
immediately came imder intematiomal condemmation, accused of allowing its
ttoops to unkash a massacre. Unit 101 was disbanded. IL lasted just halla year.
But that was not because of Qibya. While cealizing the importance of avoiding
civilian casualties, Dayan remained convinced that only units like 101 offered
wny reahistic hope of faking se fight fo the fedayeen. He made Cini 101 the core
of a larger commando force merged into Battalion $90 of the paratroopers’
brigade. and he put Sharon in overall command.
Tt was this farce that Yigal Garber Joimed. He became part of its elite
commando team, Company A and took part in & serics of attacks on the West
Bank and in Gaza. While avoiding a repeal of Qibya. they inflicted heavy
casualties on Jordan and Egyptian army and police units, und also suffered
casualties of their own. Bauahon 890 was bused just i couple of miles from
Mishmar [Tasharon and Yigal returned Lo the kibbutz every few weeks. [Te
never talked about the commando operations. But every time there was a report
of sruclis killed in u fedayeen stack, | knew there would be a retaliation rad,
with my Yigal almost certainly involved and, Thoped, returning unscathed.
Ile did. And in 1956, two years into his military service, he was part of
Isruel’s second Fullescale wir, For a while, the reprisal anaeles seemed lo be
working. "The fedayeen attacks deercased. But that didn’t last, especially in the
south along the border with Gaza. Egypt's pro-Western monarchy liad been
toppled in 4 coup organized by a group of army officers led by a stridently pane
Arabi! — and anti-Israeli ~ liculenan colonel named Gamal Abdel Nasser.
Egypt began providing not just tacit support for the fedayeen in Gaza, but
arming and traming them and helping organize cross-horder attacks. Then, in
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the summer of 1956, Nasser nationalized the Suez Canal, which had been
ovened by the British and French.
Ben-Gurion was emboldened to go war by the fact that both Britain and
France wanted to retake the canal, Under an agreement reached beforehand,
Isracl was w begin the hostilities, aller which the British and French would
enter under the guise of separating Israeli and Egyptian forces. Ben-Gurion’s
hope wis to end the threat of feduyeen strikes, ut least m the south, by taking
contol both of Gaza and the enormous natural butler aiforded by the Sinai
Desert. Militarily, it went to plan. On October 29, 1936, Yigal and other
paratroopers from Battahon 890 were dropped deep mto the Sinai, They landed
nar the entrance fo the Milla Pass, a sinuous route botsween two fines of craggy
hills 25 miles from the canal. British and Trench air strikes began three days
later, Nasser pulled most of lus forces back across the canal, By early
November. [sacl was in control of Gaza and the whale of the Sinai.
Politically, however, Ben-Gurion and bis Luropean pactoees had
catastraphically miscalculated. Britain and France were fading imperial powers.
The balance of power afer the Second World War rested with Amenca and the
Soviet Union. Both were furious over the ubsiously pre-arranged seizure of
Sinai, Gaza and the canal. It took a while for the message to sink in. [n a speech
fo the Knesset fier the conguiest wits complete, Ben-Gurion declared the post-
1948 armistice null sud void, and said [sacl would never again allow “lowcign
forces” to control the territory it had captured.
A few duys later, however, he hud no choice but to deliver a different
sessiuge in a vidio address 1 the country. He had af feast mamsged 1 scour a
concession with the help of the Americans. The Sinai and Gaza would be placed
under supervision of a UN farce. He also got a US assurance of [srael’s right of
passe throngh the Sirils of Tran to the Red Se, and an agreement that iF the
Lioyptians blocked Isracli shipping we would have the right to respond. But he
announced faat we would be leaving every inch of territory taken in the war, By
carly 1957, we did so. The one lstiniz gin came in Giza, On their way out,
tsracli troops destroyed the fedayeen's military installations, and cross-border
attacks from the south ceased.
Unlike m 1948, the Sinai War touched me directly, 1 never felt Israel's
existence was in danger. The fighting was brief sud Gar away. But Mishmar
Tlasharon had a small role in the war plan. Ben-Gurion and Dayan were
concerned thit the co-ovdmated attack might lead lo a wider war, with the
possibility that Cpyptian warplanes might get involved as they bad in 1948.
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Among the precautions they look was 10 base several hundred reservists fron
the Alexandroni Brigade in a defensive position near the Mediterranean: the
eucalyptus grove at the top end of our kibbutz, where the cover was so dense
they were all but invisible from the wir.
We kids seized on the chance 10 talk to the reservists. can’t remember
whether it was Ido or Moshe who noticed an area at the back of their
encampment, an the other side of the kibbutz cemetery. where neatly stacked
Boxes of munitions were being kepl. Bul we spent the next several aflerivons
on reconnaissance. A soldier was always on gard. But there were times the
area was unwatched, either when one tard hinded over fo the next, or on their
cigarette breaks.
We struck the following [viday. Nowadays. the cemetery consists of a hall-
dozen raws of headstones. Walking through it, as | still do at least once each
year, is like revissting my past. Ahnost all the grown-ups | remember from my
childhoud now vest there, including my parents. My father died in 2002, at the
age of 92. My mother passed away only a few years ago, a few weeks atter her
100° birthsy. Bul in 1956, the cemelery was tiny. The chances of anyone being
these aL midnight on & Friday were close 10 zero. Crouching in We shadow of the
headstones. we could see the guard. We waited until he left for his break. Each
of us took a wooden box and one of the slightly larger metal boxes, Inside, we
found w treasure rove: thousands of bullets fo all kinds of weapons. The metal
cases held heavier firepower: grenades and movtars. We returned those. We
were mischievous, but not crazy, Yet each of us now had a crate full of
wnmunition, even including bels for machine guns.
My experience at school began to change in my carly teenage years as well.
Shortly before my fourteen birthday, our age group was sent to a school outside
Mishmar Hasshavon, The kibbutz had deeded that since there were only a
dozen-or-su children in cach class, it wasn’t economically viable 10 provide a
quality education. They sent us to the regional high school
It was several hundred yards down the rad in the direction of Tel Aviv, It
wass Gir more rigorous. [was mio longer the only kid in my class who hiked fo
read or could do math problems in his head. It was there [ first sat truly
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interested in science. When T came across conoepts T couldn't understand, our
teachers always scemed able to answer my questions or help me find the
answers myself, 1 liked the school enormously. | might well have gone an fo
finish my secondary education there. [probably should have. But the nex year.
he kibbutz brought us back again.
One of the considerations was financial. Like many kibbutzim, Mishmar
Hasthiran concluded tit m order to make its school more economically
sustainable it would take in a number uf “outside children” — yelde chariz -
trom towns and setclements around Israel. Yet this latest policy change was also
triggered a debate over the kind of education kibbutzim should provide, Should
kibbutz school offer s curricnhu tailored w prssing the bagra, the
maticulation exam, and going on to university? Or should it limit itself Lo a
fairly husic education geared to develapini the talents needed for a productive
life on the kibbute? In a series of heated debates in the dining hell, almost all of
Misha [ashacon supported the model of a basic, kibbutz-oriented education.
My father was the leading voice among the dissenters, and though it seemed
obvious he was fighting am uphill bale. 1 remember feeling a sense of prides at
watching him — and an ceho in my own impulse to reach ny own judgment
about issues and to act an it as | was growing older. Not only was he opposed to
the new policy, He was aghast, [n the only time | can recall bs speaking ant at
anc of the weekly kibbutz meetings, he asked how Mishmar Hasharou could
take upon itself the right to constrain an individual childs life potential. “We
are Jews!” he said. “We are people who have left aur impact on history through
aur scholavs, not our peasants. | can’t understand how we, who came here to
open a new chaplec in the history of our people. can choose to keep our sons
and davghrers from studying. We should encouruge them to study!” He
cece that Ue inlerests of Ue kibbiut mattered. Bu what kind of “model
sociely™ would we be ecealing if we chose 10 “doom our own childsea to
ignorance. and cut them off from the great forward momentum of history in
tel and the whale world?”
Lspecially in & hibbulz, however, the majority ruled. In this case, it was
nearly unanimous, my mother included. T could see she felt torn, whether
because she agreed with my father or becanse she realized how deeply he felt.
Bul she secepted the decision. For her, that was what wes meant by being part
of the lacger kibbutz family. all, my father didn’t give up. Tle couldn't change
the kibbutz” ruling, But he fried to et me ta stay at the regional high school. A
couple of yeas earlier, examiners had fanned out accoss Israel to administer its
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first aptitude tests. T finished among he top two dozea results in the country.
“Tow can you throw your pifls away? Tor whar,” he asked me. “If you leave
that school, and give up on going to university, it will be like betraying
yourselC™ At ane point, he walled me oul 1 the pated of hard-packed soil
where we packed the actors and farm machinery. “What do you want 10 do
with your life.” he asked. “Do you want to be a firmer?
I thought about it before answering. “I don’t know what will hippen in the
future.” | said “Bu it you ask me now, | would say | want to drive one of the
Kibbutz trucks.”
1 could see the shock and disuppointment in his eyes. But it was the truth, |
did immagine tn at some point §mght wnt 10 make s ie ouside the kibbutz.
But I'd never lived anywhere else. If I was going to remain a part of it, I could
think of no better way than to join our little corps of drivers, Though they lived
an the kibbutz, they spent most of their time delivering or prekng up goods in
places like Le] Aviv. Lolon ur Ashkelon. As the US Marines might have put it,
I guess 1 figured I'd join the truck-drivers and see the world,
The deeper reson | said no ta my father, as 1am sure he suspected, was that
[lela need ww take control of my owa life. That was simply part of growing
up, a process which probably happened more quickly for 1950s kibbutz children
thun for town or city kids. We loved and respected our parents. But we were
living with other teenies, We weren't just residents of the kibbutz, We were
parc of the economic collective, working in the fields or orchards, the garage
and the metal shop, This bred a sense of independence, 1 listened to my father's
arguments. Bi tris was w decision shout my fue. 1 el [act 10 make if for
myself. I cared about my education. But ['d reached a stage where my life
outside the classroom, and my circle of friends, mattered more, [am sure that
the sume impulse drove me m my contin freckanee forays ino lockpicking
and petty larceny with Ido and Moshe.
Sol returned to the kibbutz school. The level of teaching was nowhere near
the regional schoal’s, But we did beg studying new subjects like economics
and politics. There were two other welcome suprises as well. The fist was the
arrival of a new history teacher. Knowledgable, enthusiastic and eloquent, he
had a rare wif} for igniting excitement in his students, We studied the French
Revolntion. He brought it 10 fife wills insights info Montesquicu, Rousscan sd
Jolin Locke, Louis XVI and Mary Antoinette. Robespierre and Napoleon. Lie
traced the dynamics that led 10 the revolution, and the way its ideals descended
in the bloodshed and tearor that followed. Tle presented history as a human
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process that aised as many questions as it answered, as something we could
lear from.
The second high-point was a couple named David and Leah Zimmerman,
Thongh Mishmar Hasharon, hike other kibbulzim, was sceular, they miroduced
us w the lalnud, the ancient compendium of rabbinic discussion and debate on
the meaning of passages trom the Bible. We focused on two tractates, Baba
Kama und Baba Meiziah, m which the rabbis drew on verses from Exodus to
argue oul a system of rules for resolving civil disputes. 11 was he Talmud of
torts. The intricacy and the depth of the rabbinical debate tascinated me.
ox
Yigal returned from the army a few manths after the 1956 war, when, like
other lecnagers, | was about 16 enter i pre-military progenn known as Gadna.
There were several options kids could choose. One was linked to the air force,
another to the navy. But most of us joined the reconnaissance and scouting
gro, Gadna Saverim. It involved sludying lopography und navigation, as well
us field exercises that were a lot like the ones Yigal hed put us though a few
years earlier. At year's end. we rook part in a national exercise. [twas called, a
bit urndiosely. Aivan ef Yani. from sea to sea. We had to find our way from
the Meditenanean, near Haifa, across northem Israel W a lake which was a sca
only in name, the Sea of Galilee. Il lasted three days. We were placed in teams
of four. We were each given i topographical map and a compass, with
landrourks marked along the way which we had 10 find und draw in a notchook
to prove we'd been there.
A couple of hours in, we faced our first challenge. We were making our way
wong a shepherds” sil, with brush und bramble on eather side, when the path
split in wo. We had to decide which fork to take. The map didn't help. Lach
inch covered the equivalent of a mile-and-a-halt. The key was to be able to
mile it with what we were seeing around us, To use points we could identity
from the map — Haifa and the sea in the receding distance, and a taller bill 10 our
northeast — and then figure out which path was more likely to take us in the
ght diteetion, 1 knew this mix of culeulation und mmagination wis somethmg |
enjoyed Bul it was more thau that. ach of us had had the same prepargtion fos
the exercise. As my rrek-mates trned to me for this first decision, and then on
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cach successive stage as we crossed the Galilee, Tecalized that it was also
something that [ was nawally good at
Still, the closest thin: to real military activity remained my excurions with
Ido and Moshe, Our ammunition Irunks were stowed under our beds. But the
final picce of our arsenal fell into place in May 1958. For the tenth aniversary
of [srael, there was a national exhibition celebrating the achievements of the
state. | paid a first visit on my own. 1 wis curious to see what was on show, But
us walked through, 1 couldn’ help noticing the lack of scewrity. wo days
later, 1 recurned with 1do and Moshe. There was a stand devoted to the Israeli
military industry, We already had a supply of smmunition for un Can
submachine wun, conricsy of onr raid on the Alexandroni Brigade. Now, when
the guy in charge of the stand was chatting with other visitors, we came away
with an Uzi,
1 wass then the trouble began. Along with Ido, Moshe and the other older
boys, 1 now lived in a larger docmitory under the cursory gaze of an older
mictapelet. She was doing routine cleaning when she decided ta dust around the
boxes under our beds. She’d never given them much thought. But when she
tried 10 move one of them, she was amazed by its weight. She ol vue her sons-
in-law to help. 1 think the box he pried open first was Moshe's. Bur within a few
minutes he'd opened Ida’s and mine as well, Inside cach were hundreds of
bullets and the machine-gun belts. side mine was our prized Uzi. 1 would nou
exactly have taken the KG 10 work out the rest. The kibbutz leaders ordered an
inquiry, Ido was summoned first, and attempted a brief show of defiance,
“What's the big deal,” bie asked. “It’s just staff we colleeted. Why should yon
care? Bul sepacately questioning Moshe, then Tdo again. the inquisitors worked
out every detail. The fact that the ammunition had come from the Alexandroni
Brigade, the reservists sent lo defend us, wis bad enough. Bui the U4 hud been
stolen from the National Exhibition. That was even worse. It was left to the core
of young men in their late 205 and 30s to figure out how to punish us. Everyone
agreed we could not be reported lo the police. That would risk scandal for the
Nibbutz. They decided to beat some sense into the offeaders. in foot of all the
rest of the teenagers in the dormitory.
wasn’t there. One atterncon each week, 1 now boarded a bus into Tel Aviv
for my pino lesson. But when [retuned after sundown, 1 sensed immediatly
something was wrong. Yigal was waiting at the bus stop outside the kibbutz. Tle
told me that what [ had done was terrible. Nat just because it mvalved weapons,
but because it was a breach of trust. Did you really steal ammunition from the
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ary, he asked, his voice rising. Aad from the National Fehibition? 1 didn’t
bother denying it 1 suppose T felt lucky they hadn't found out about our raids on
the kibbutz armory, He did not administer my beating, That came a few weeks
liter finn one of the kibbutz elders. He snnply taok me by the shonkders and
shouted: “You must never do this again.”
Twas worse for my parents. Ac first, they believed T was an innocent party.
They were convinced | couldn't have gol mvolved in something ike this
without being diagied in by the others. My Father even asked me whether the
reason I'd been “dratted” by Ido and Moshe was because | was small, and able
to squeeze thraugh tight spaces in windows nd doors, As it huppened, that did
sometimes come in handy. But © told therm, no, | was nol an unlucky bystander
Twas as much a part of it as the others. My father was angrier than T had ever
seen him. My mother, faced with what must have seemed like a betrayal of
every one of her Zionist principles, told me that if the kibbutz bad decided to
sepoet us 1 the police. she would not have objected.
Their mood lifted slightly when I began my final year of high school in
September 1958. Afier Iwo years bck in the kibbutz school, our age-group was
sent out again in another shift in policy. 1 his one was in response 10 signs of
rowing support in Mishmar Hasharon and other kibbutzim for the argument
my futher had mide against the quality of education we were offering, In order
1050 1 least some way toward meting that objection, Mishmar Hasharon was
banding together with two dozen other kibbutzim and sending all 12"-graders io
one of two outside high schools, The first, called Beit Berl, was a Libor Zionist
nslitution focusing ou The humanities. In addition 10 a few of the less scadenie
boys, most of the girls were sent there. The rest of us went to a place called
Rupin. It was a few hundred yards past the regional high school. It specialized
in agriculturally relisted scientific research.
A few of the teachers were enormously sifted, and they were in the areas
that most interested me: math, physics and biology. Yet the rest of the
curricafim wis almost numbingly arinspiring. | did not mss a single math or
scicnee class. But otherwise, | began seiting my own schedule. Some days, |
would sleep late, or not 20 atall. When I did go, T'd often show up without
having dane the homework, Neither [do nor Moshe was with me at Rupin, They
were sturting their military service. But | assembled a ew band of mischict-
makers, and it was not hard to entice them to go AWOL.
I was warned several Himes by the school adminisiraior. He said be could not
accommodale a student who seemed oblivious 10, or dismissive of. the rules. Ile
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was especially upset because my attitude seemed to be infecting others. A fev
months into the school year, he told the leaders of Mishmar Tlasharon, and thes
my parents, that [would hive to leave, My father was especially upset, A
couple of years warlicr, he'd hid visions of my suyinig on in the regional high
school and going 10 university. Now, 1d been unable to hold my ow in Rupio
Still, both he and oy mother were relieved when Mishmar Iasharon and the
school worked oul a compromise which did not end my studies altogether. The
expulsion stood, but | was allowed to continue attending math and science
classes.
For my mother, the blow was softened by the fact I began working almost
full-time on the kibbutz. alongside Yigal, driving a tractor. | woke up early and
accompanied hin into he fields of wheat, barley or rye. We also made a series
of trips 130 miles south inta the Negev to a moshay called Patish, It had been
setup by newly arrived Moroccan Jews. Since they didn’t have the equipment
ar know-low Lo cultivate all their fields, they were realing out some of the land.
Mishmar [asharon had contracted to farm a parcel of 450 aces
For ten days ut a time, Yigal and [would place a imetor on the buck of a
pickup and head to Patish. We worked irom four in the morning until sundown.
After work, we ate at a tiny family-run restaurant a tew miles away in Ofakin. a
so-called “development town” populated by Vioroccan Jews who had been
moved there is soon ws they arrived in Israel. Far from regretting not being in
school, T drew satisfaction, and pride, from knowing that [ was functioning as an
independent adult, But t also gave me time to think. My whole fife had been
circumscribed by the strugghe to erate sud secure the state. Bu | again Round
myself pondering issues of basic fairness in our young country, and the
challenge of reconciling our words and principles with our deeds amid the
dificnlt realitiex of building the stale
Back on the kibbutz, it was the example of the kindly and hard-working
Baddura which had caused me to question how we were treating the Jews who
had anrived from Yemen. In the Negev, [ mel members of the even larger poste
weer influx from Morocco. One inkage struck ine above all. IL was from the place
Yigal and ate dinner. Ofakim was a development town that had yet to develop.
tt add no visible means of support, and there was no sign the govermnent was
doing much w remedy that or inlegrale the new immigraus cconomically and
socially. The “restaurant” was a side business a family had set up in the dining
Taam of their tiny home, The sixth ar seventh fime we went there, | was startled
by sudden movement a couple of feet away from where we were sitting
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Looking more closely. I saw a wooden bos, the kind we used in Mishmar
Tesharon to erate oranges. Tt was filled with hay. Au first, 1 thought the stircing
inside was a family pet, Then, I saw it was a baby. I said nothing until we had
Teli. “Was thal really w child?” | asked Yigal “A baby?” He replied, with a tinge
of sadness but also a look that scemed Lo convey surprise at my nzively: “Yes.
They don’t have room for him.”
or
My evolving feelings about the Arabs, the other people with dreams of what
they sill saw as Palestine, would become more complex as my childhood drew
1o.an end. As mentioned, T barely registered the fate of the absent villagers of
Wadi Khwaret,
And yetas | got older m my teens [eame lo understand why the
Palestinians were fighting us. Before the 1956 war, Dayan gave a brief speech
that had a powerful impact on me, It was a eulogy. but it was for sameane
Dayan didn’t know personally. His miended andience was the rest of the
country. 11e spoke in Nahal Oz, a kibbutz on the border with Gaza often
targeted by fedayeen. In April 1956, a group of Arabs crossed from Gaza and
began cutting down the wheat in Nihal 07 fields. The kibbutz security officer,
«2 l-year-old named Roi Rotherg, rode out on horseback 10 chase them away.
The intruders apened fire as soon as he got close. They beat him, shot him dead
and talk the bady back over the irmistice line, The corpse was retumed,
silted, afer wn Jsracli protest trough the UN.
With Iscecli newspapers full of agonized accounts of what had happened,
Dayan’ messajre was that we should not blame the Arb for Roi Rotbers’s
death. We should look at ourselves, und the neighborhood in which we lived.
“Why should we talk about their buring hatred for us? he asked. “Uor cight
years, they have been sitting in the refugee camps of Gaza, while betore their
eyes we have been teansforming the lands and the villages where they and their
Fathers dwell” OF course, they haled us and the state we were building. Rotberg
had allowed his “yearning for peace to deafen his ears, and he did not hear the
voice of murder waiting in ambush,” Dayan suid the danger was that other
Israclis had become similady naive. “How did we shu our eyes, and refuse 10
see, inall its brutality, the destiny of our generation” A generation which was
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settling the land but which, “without Lhe steel helmet and the bacrel of the pun,
will not succeed in planting a ee or building a home.”
Still, if I was part of a generation that understood the need for military
preparedness, strength and a readiness to fight if we were lo survive m the
Middle ast, the 1956 war also brought home to me the need to consider ow
we fought. This meant grappling with a contradiction wired into Zionism from
the sturt: the need to tuke up arms to defend our state, whiks recognizing the
Jewish moral code that was its foundation. When the Israeli armed lovees were
established in 1948, Tzahal's doctrine included the principle of fofar Aaneshek
“purity of grms™ and an explicit requirement for our soldiers fo use the
minimum necessary force and do all they conld to avoid civilian casual tics.
Putting “purity of arms” into practice was always going 10 be hard. All aos
ill, In all wars, civilians die. But that did not make the principle, or the need to
be aware of iL in combat, any less important
Liven if the soldier called on the make that judgment was someone who had
mentored me fiom the time 1 was six. and whose military prowess 1 had come to
respect, Kven i'it was Yagal Garber. His parachute jump on the fst day of the
1956 war went smoothly. But the battle for control uf the Mila Pass wrned out
fo be the most deadly of the war. It was also unnecessary. Under Isragl's pre-
war choreography with the British and French, the very fisct of aur kinding near
the Mitla Pass was 10 be the trigger for an Anglo-French attack. In fact, Avik
Sharon, the commander of Battalion 890, received orders from Tel Aviv nor
take the pass, Only grudgmpgly, did they let him send in a recamnssance force
10 establish whether il wis sale fo eros.
The reconnaissance company walked into a trap. Machine-guo and mortar
fire rained dawn from Fygyptian troops dug inta the caves and other natural
defensive postions above the pass. 1 tok hours to extricate the stamded men
Yigal’s ait fought its way in from the caster side of the pass. A small group
from the reconnaissance force managed to get 4 foothold on the western side.
Almost 250 Fgypians were killed. But 38 Israch paratroopers also died, the
Target single toll in any battle since 1948. Battered and bitter, the surviving
men from the reconnaissance force parachuted into the southernmost part of the
Sma, near Et=Tur on the Red Sea. Yigal and the others headed overground to
join up with them. By the lime they gol there, Egyplian resistance bid all but
ended. Yigal's company had a brief exchange of fire with several dozen hold-
outs m fhe Firyptian farce. The Firyptians surrendered. And then, apparently,
Yigal and his fellow paratroopers shot all of them dead.
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Atlcast those wees the rumors afier the war. T asked fricads what they were
hearing. [asked some of the older men on the kibbutz, my Father included. All
of them responded with a slightly different version of events. But | knew what [
wasn ’s hearing. Noone of them told me if was lie. When |asked Yigal, he
averted my glance, and then changed the subject. [knew it was Leue. at least
broadly.
[realized that, before it happened, Yigal and the others bud seen dozens of
friends gunned down in an eyptian ambush in the Mitla Pass. But [didn’t need
alesson fohar haneshek to know that the killing of captured Egyptian soldiers
should not have happened, Or that it was pluialy, simply wrong.
When Yigal and [mad ous ial irip lo Patish in 1959, 1 knew it would be
poindess to ask him about it. Whatever he said wouldn't change anything. T still
respected his courage und his fighting spirit, and the part he'd played in
defending Imac. | appreciated whit he'd done for me as | grew up. But what
mattered now wasa't what Yigal had dove. [was what Lwould do, and how |
would live my life.
Especially since [ too, was bout to begin my army service,
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Chapter Three
1 reported for induction on the second Sunday of November 1959, three
months short of my eighteenth birfaduy. Military service was u neur-tmiversa
site of passage for Tsracli teenagers. For ohildren of the kibbutz, it held even
greater significance. Now that we had a country, the kibburzaiks' role as the
avant-garde in taming and faeming the land had ceased to he relevant. But the
sense of mission we'd been raised with — what we were led 10 believe set us
apart from the mere “city-dwellers™ — drove us to aspire, maybe even assume,
we would leave an imprint in oftier spheres of the new state”s life. | doubt it's an
accident thal nesnly every ane of the boys with whom | grew tp fn Mishmar
Ilasharon went on to become an officer during his time in the military
Tudyging: from my own first few weeks in uniform, however, there was every
seuson to believe [would end up us an unfortuae, mdistinguished exception
This was not due 10 lack of anibition. In fact, T thought at frst of joining the
air force. But a question on the application form asked whether I ever suffered
from any breathing dco fort. Like ahnost everyone on the kibbutz, | did gel a
bit clogged up whea the weather ened cold and damp. So 1 uaively answered
yes, ending any chance of training 25 a pilot. My fallback choice was a tank
uit. But when {joined the hundreds of other draflces at the processmg center
near Tel Aviv, about a hundsed of us were shunted. by alphabetical lottery. into
training tor armored personnel carriers instead. Known as battle taxis, tae APCs
which Israel had at the time were lumbering, World War Two-vintage
lalfiracks
Our eaining battalion was based, aloagside the country's majo armored
brigade, in a huge. hillside army camp outside Beersheva in the Negev. I knew
thst on tironat — basic teaming — woukd be ough. Thal was the whale poinl.
But we endured a seemingly endless array of inspections, under the waichful
eve of a corporal who meted out punishments for the tiniest scutf on a boot, a
bell, av ie nifle. The rest of the tine was spent m physical inuizing, which 1 found
especially hard, al least at the beginning. {sill weighed barely 130 pounds, and
by 0 means all. or even most, of it was muscle. My military career, such as it
was, looked very likely fo invelve spending: my required couple of years baling
inside an APC in the Negev before moving ou to something more useful, and
certainly more fulfilling, with the rest of my life
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But a series of accidents. in Israels life and in mine, would soon point me in
2 deamatically different dircetion. The first became known as the Rotem Crisis.
and it delivered a jolting reminder of Israel's vulnerability fo a surprise attack
from neighboring Avab states. Mililarily, we were far stronger tian in 1948. Bul
we were still a young country, at an early stage in our economic development
Our defense strategy rested on a recognition we could not afford to sustain a
large standing amy, relying insicad on a pool of trained reservists. The problem
wees that a full call-up of the reserves would require something like 48 hours
That meant some form of early warning was critical.
Rotem erupted in February 1960, about halfiway trough my sons. and
began almost Farcically. The Chil of Mility bielligenee, Chaim Herzog, was
at a diplomatic eceiption in Tel Aviv when he began chaing with a guest he
knew well; the head of the local C1A station, What, the American asked, did he
make of the fat that Egypt had moved its two main armored divisions into the
Sinai, wad the border with Tsracl? Ilerzog came up with a suitably woolly
reply, about how it was obviously a situation which bore watching. But the truth
wes thal neither hie nor anyone else in Ismet bad amy iden abo! the Fgyprian
mobilization. 1c left the party as soon as he could, to tell Dayan and Ben-
Gurion. When a reconnaissance flight the next day confirmed that dozens of
battle-ready tanks had been rolled forward toward the Suez Canal, Ben-Gurion
and the generals scrambled for a response.
They did not want a war. Ben-Gurion was particulady worried that in
responding to Nasser’s buildup, he might inadvertently eseulste things further,
He vetoed the idea of a full mobilization. But he did order a moss limited call-
up. of ehout 7,000 reservists. Tle placed the air force on alert. Tle directed the
four brigades responsible for the defense of southern Israel, including our
wmored brigade near Becrshesa, lo move within i few miles of the border —
and pave us the additional cole uf sending several overnight munitions convoys
to equip the hastily assembled border force.
The first sim | saw that anything exirordinary was gomy on was the sudden
movement of tanks and APCS inside our camp. At first, 10 ane told us raw
recruits anything. We were left to look on. and stay ouc of the way. But with our
operational mits prepiring to mave forward, the problem was that there seemed
50 one elie wilh the expertise, expericnee and local knowledge to lead the
supply columas. So our training bautalion was summoned before the platoon
communder, “Any volunteers,” he asked. When none of us raised a hand, he
said: “Come on. One ofl you must have grown up around here. That means the
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first 25 miles will be familiar territory.” le lelt unspoken the obvious
postscript: the need to negotiate the final five Lo ten miles, through open desert,
and to find fhe right area, on our side of a border that wasn’t even marked,
“Cant any of you.” he banked, “leads convoy of a Few dozen nicks?
Pm not sure what possessed ue. But | thought to myself: yes, | probably
can. 1 had been scouting and navigating in one way or another since those first
evenings with Yigal in the kibbutz orchards, 1°d trained with Gadna Saverim,
And while I'd never lived in the south, the farm scitlement of Patish, where I'd
worked along with Yigal after getting kicked aut of high school, was not far
from the route the conveys would hae 10 take.
So raised my hand.
“Can you lead a convoy?" hie asked.
“Yes, sir,” L said. “Of course, I'll need a map. And a compass.”
“Why do you think you're qualified?” he prodded. 1d been in Gana
Sperm. | said | was good wilh maps. “Okay.” he replied. and be seat me.
along with two of the company’s junior officers, to the barcalion commander,
Someone must have phoned head. becaise he was clearly expecting us.
SUL T could see the surprise in his eyes when he looked at me: valy just
eighteen. but looking closer to 15. my uniform sagging on my slender frame. He
gazedat the officers, then back at me, then at the officers again, as if trying to
fire out whether be wis shout 10 approve something utterly crazy. But he had
lire choice. Three convoys had to be dispatched within the next couple of
hours. So fur, with me. he had a sum tofal of one guy fo lead them, “Fine,” he
sank, and waved us oul.
The column consisted of eight huge. American-made six-wheelers, each
packed with ten tons of munitions and other supplies. 1 was in the lead ruck.
“The driver was a reservist in his mid-30s. So were most of the men in the rest of
the transport trucks. one driver and one soldier in each. A staff sergeant, in the
second vehicle, was in theoretical command. But. surreal though it felt. [ was
actually in charge, since 1 was the only person who might, concervibly, get us
io the tight place.
The platoon commander was right. The first part, on paved roads, was fairly
easy. But just before sunset. we reached open desert. the beginning of more than
three hours of picking and weaving, calibrating and recalibrating, our way
across a wide expanse an sand and occasional serub bushes that, every mile or
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50, would suddenly give way 10 a windswept series of dunes and wadis. The
map and compass helped. But [ soon realized that it was almost impossible to
get an accurate reading from inside the truck, Every few minutes, 1 waved the
convoy 1 slop, ol aut, aud walked filly ov sity yards mio te sand and chimps
al acacia trees and calibrated our progress from there. My Fallback was the
stars. From them. I could at least make sure we were headed in broadly the right
diteetion. But the need to navigate around the duncs meant we were never
moving in a pertoctly straight line. The miles ticking by on the tuek’s odometer
couldn’t tell me exactly how far we'd travelled. A couple of times, [ realized we
were wandering oft line mot by a much, but enough to isk leaving us gither a
mike or lwo south of where we were supposed 1 go or, worse, on the Ligyplian
side of an unmarked desert frontier that, especially at night, would look pretty
much the same on either side.
Tinally, a few boues before dawn, 1 brought fhe convoy to a halt. I elimbed
out, walked back 10 the stall sergeant and told him, with more confidence than T
felt: “We're here.” [ had no way of knowing for sure. But I felt we were
generally in the right place. Before we'd set of, 1 was briefed by the officer in
charge of one of the operational APC baualions. Ie had been 10 the acca before,
on training exercises. Because of the emergency call-up, he was too senior to
Teas supply convoy. But he told me tht once we got there, we should stop and
wait. Le would follow our tracks the next morning aud link up with us. Au hour
after sunrise, we saw his jeep bobbing over the sand towards us. [le pulled to a
stop. shook hands with the statt sergeant. and then he turned to me.
“Unbelievable,” be said. “We're where we need 1o be.”
Our role in the grand scheme of things, and certainly mine, was hardly
decisive. But the rest of the border mobilization also went to plan. That, along
with some Gatic diplomatic activity and s healthy commen sense on all sides,
ensured that a new war with Tgypt was averted — at least fo a further half-
dozen years, until 1967. By then, the lessen of Rotem would be learned: our
need to Gnd a reliable wiry 10 Lp ino the bale plans of the hostile Arab states
around us. And through another wholly unexpected turn of events starting just a
few weeks afer the Rotem Crisis. I would turn out to play a personal role in
making that happen.
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Under army regulations. raining recruits got a five-day leave every few
months during rérunut. My first one came a bit later than usual, due to Rotem
But in April 1960, shartly before the Passover haliday, | headed back to
Mishima Hisshavon, Despite my minor iriwnph of desert mavigalion, {sill bid
every teason 10 believe I'd be spending the next couple of years in an APC unit
in the Negev, and can't pretend I was looking forward to it. Still. the idea of
sewening home in my army uniform. at least a bit swronger and bulkier than
before, did give me a sense of pride.
Tt was on my thicd day back. when Twas in the dining hall with a half-dozen
schoolmates-tumed-saldiers, that Avraham Ramon sat down and joined us. He
was a yeled chuiiz, one of the “hoys from outside” who had joined our class
when we were taken out of the regional high school. Tle, too, was now in the
army, As we were finishing limeh, he asked me: “How’s ironur?™
“Tough.” 1 sand. “Boring,”
Smiling, he said: “How would you feel abou juining saperer”
The question took me by surprise. In Hebrew. saver meant “reconnaissance
wit”. 1 wins the mame given lo special units that carried ont missions bem
enemy lines, or under particularly exacting conditions. In the early 1960s, thece
were only two of nate. One was Sigverer Gulani. attached ta the Golani Brigade
near the northern border. The tenly elite one was Sayeret Pzankanim, the
paraicuopers” sayeret 11 had been built from Company A of Battalion 890,
where Yigal had served in the 1950s
“Which sayerer?” asked
“10s called Saveret Marka,” he replied.
Td never heard of it. When asked what it did. he said: “I'm not allowed to
say. But are you interested?” The air of mystery made it seem only more
enticing, And na matter what it did, it had to be a step up from what lay ahead
of me in the Negev. “Yeah. Sure,” replied.
1 heard nothing further in the days after I gor back to Beersheva. But a the
end of the month, [was ordered to report fo a small hui in im army base near Tel
Aviv. Itbelonged wo aka Fsser. the personne] depactment of militacy
intelligence. I was preeted by owo men in their late 20s. One of them, shorter
even than me, introduced himself us Sami Nachmias. The other was tall and
slim and said in a surprisingly quiet voice: “I'm Shinil Ben-Zvi” They were
two names which I, Tike most Isracli teenagers at the time, knew well. Ben-Zvi
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had been an officer in Arik Sharon's original Unit 101, and Nachmias was ne
af the carliest recruits to Company A. They shook my hand and motioned me
into a Jeep, As we drove out of the base, they peppered me with questions about
almost anyihing except the anny: the kibbutz, school, sparts. Then, Ben-Zai
pulled the Jeep to the side of the road. turaed around Lo face me and asked: “Is it
true you can pick locks?”
Yes. 1 said. “Da you want me to show you?” He sand that wouldn't be
nccessary.
“Is it ue you can navigate? Read maps?” Nachuias asked. I said yes
They drove me back to the base in silence. “OK,” Nachmias said. “You'll
probably hear rom us.”
Tdida’t, But as basic taining was winding down, T got a funher order: to
report to an address in Trahal, neighborhaod in narth Tel Aviv where lot of
military officers ved. IL wos a small house with a metal gate ouside. | was met
at the door by a man bout 30 in shorts and a T-shirt who introduced himself as
Avraham Arnan. Ile led me inside. le unfurled a map of Jerusalem and the
surround hills. He pointed 10 w spot on the southwest of The city. He drew i
wide, curving line through the bills 10 a second point. “You know how 10 ead a
map?” he asked. When I nodded, he said: “I want you to describe to me — just as
i you were walking on this line exactly whit you see, is you make yor wiy
to the place | marked.” | used the elevation lines on the map as a uid, and the
positioning of the hills aud woodland and villages on the map. and began
describing how each stage would look. When [ was finished, his anly response
was the hint of a smile. When he spoke, il wasn’t about the map. 11 was, again,
about picking locks. “Tlow did you learn™ he asked. T explained how I'd cut
into the locks. figured out how they worked and made a set of tools ta open
them, “hank you,” he sid. “You can return to your unit.”
Though he hada't said so, T pot a feeling this was the Sayecet Matkal
equivalent of a final job interview. When I pot back to Beersheva. I dug around
ws disercetly is possible Ror details abou Avrabim Aman. 1 keamed he hd
served in 1948 in the hills around Jerusalem, so ie would have hoven first-hand
the terrain he asked me to describe. That. I puessed, explained the half-smile.
But | was entering my last week of firm, [still had na idea whether 1°d be
spending lie next couple of years inside an APC — or in a sayeret whose
function was a mystery. beyond the fact it seemed less interested in whether my
boots were shined than whether | could pick a lock.
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The day before the end of basic raining, T was told to return 10 Maka Esser.
A Jeep was wailing. A soldier was at the wheel. Tle mumbled hello and drove
me ta a sprawling military base about 15 minutes away, not too far from the
oemational airport in Lod. 11 was built by the Bulish in the Sceomd World War
for the RAL. Afer 1948, the main part had been converted into Jsael’s officer-
training school. But at the far end, set back fiom a criss-cross of runways. was a
pair of domed conerete sheliers which had been used by the British for
Munitions storage. Five ents. 1wo field toilets. And a single-story brick
structure with a tin roof. It contained offices for Avraham Aman, a couple of
other officers and a secretary, a kitchenette and a room for storing weapons.
I'his was the home uf Sayeret Matkal, although the first thing | was wld was
that no one. outside 2 handful of senior officers in military headquarters, knew
we existed.
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The heart and soul of Sayeret Matkal was Avraham Aman, Fyen from my
brief first encounter with him in bis living coom in Tzahala, I was stuck by his
physical presence. with almost movie-star looks and a face made even more
intriguing by the fact he hil dilterent-colured eyes, one brown smd one a
picreing green. Bus what teally set him apa, as | got to know him aud come
wader his spell in the sayeret, was his playful, almost bohemian disregard for the
‘normal strictures and structures, rules and regulations, of the armed forces.
What mauered to him was what actually needed 10 get done, and how best lo
accomplish it despite all the bureaucratic obstacles, and he made me and his
other teenage recruits teel we were equal partners with him in getting there.
Years luter, he confided tht if his life had not led him into the military, he
would have probably chosen something in the acts or culture, maybe directing
films. But he had volunteered for the Ilaganah at age 17, a year before the 1948
war. As Lhe losses monnied in Jerusalem, he found himself m the Pahnach’s
crack Harel Brigade, under the command of a future Isracli chiel-of-stalT, Dado
Clazar.
His vision for Sayeret Matkal became [srael’s answer to the dangers
identified by Rotem. But il bad ils origius in his experiences in the years afer
1948, when he joined a military intelligence proup running a loose network of
Arab agents weross racks northern border. They provided oceasioual bits of
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information. But in talking with his wartime [riends, he cealized this kind of
low-level intelligence could never address the real need for Israel: Lo ensure we.
had early warning if Syria ar 1 ebanon, Jordan ar Figypt, were preparing fo 20 to
wa agg ns.
Ie began loying with the idea of raining a small foree of 1svacli soldiers lo
#0 an cross-border intelligence missions. The initial response from the firva
mihtary headquarters m Tel Aviv was so frustrating that anyone else would
have given up. None of the generals saw any reso lo believe his scheme
would work. But the real obstacle was their continuing trauma over what had
happened the last time Istucli soldiers crossed the border on an intelligence
mission. 11 had happened in 1954, and il ended im a failure even more serious
than Rotem. The target was the Golan [Teights. inside Syria. The special
technology mit attached to military intelligence had developed u buggy
device designed to be placed on a telephone pole on the Golan. The task of
installing it was given o the most decorated. and respected, commando unit in
the army: Company A in Sharon's paratroop battalion, led by its commander,
Meir Har-Zion.
Ou a spring night in 1954, Har-Zion led his team onto the Golan. They
Tipgred the bugging unit to the telephone pale, buried the bulky transmitter and
mide their way ick. And it worked. Israeli intelligence could hsten m fo
military commuuications vn the Heights. The biteh as thal the baucrics had to
be replaced every few weeks. Several more times, Meir and his men sneaked
back mto Syria to keep the bug working, But as commander of Company A,
Mir wis i key part of Israel's anti-fodaycen operations. The lst thing Moshe
Dayan wanted to risk was seeing him captuced while trying 10 replace a few
batteries. So he shifted the task to a regular unit from the Golani Brigade.
In December 1954, u handover mission was organized. Three men from
Company A, including one of Meir's sergeants, joined three from the Golani
Brigade. But they didn’t even hold a joint exercise before setting oft, There was
also it ack of clarity shout who was i charge, Though the Goli commander
was nominally the senior wfficer, only the Company A men had any first-hand
experience of this kind of mission. A half-mile onto the ITeights. they were
intercepted by a Syrian soldiers, If this had been a Company A operation, the
response would have been automatic. They would have wheeled, opened fie
and attacked. But when the Syrians ordered the Golanis to drop their weapons,
one af them did, and the Company A men followed suit, They were all taken to
Damascus, held in solitary confinement, beaten and tortured.
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Oue of the captured Golani soldiers was a 19-year-old named Uri Tlan, the
son of a member of the Israeli Knesset whom Ben-Gurion and the whole of the
government knew well, The soldiers” captivity drayred on until they were
finally veturmed fo Israel in Murch 1956. By then, however, Uti lan had lunged
himsell. [le managed Lo hide a note into his uniform. Iu was found when the
body was being prepared for burial. It read: Lo bagadeti. Nekumah, “I did not
betray anything. Revenge.”
liver since the Uri Jan mission, there had been a de ficio ban on cross-
border intelligence operations by Israeli soldiers. Ben-Gurion and his military
commanders knew, of course, the mportance of getting early warning of an
enemy sttck. Bul they decided the price of possible Grilue was simply too
high.
Sayeret Matkal was bom three vears later. Avraham was still part of the unit
ming low-level agents m Syvia and | chamon, but his communder reluctantly
agreed allow him to set up bis new intelligence group. Lis initial
“headquarters” was a sparsely furnished Tel Aviv apartment. The first people he
bronght in were veterans of the Palmiach’s Arab Pluoon, pre-state Fighters who
trained themselves to pass as Arabs and gather intelligence. or stage raids,
behind enemy lines. Next, he invited friends who had served in Unit 101 and
Company A. Finally, he enlisted a core of them to help tri reernits fo ns new
sayerel. He hoped the involvement of these commando veterans would also give
the unit credibility inside the irya. One of them, Micha Kapusta, had been part
of 101, us had Itzhak Gabli, who bud been a teenage Palmachnik in 1948, A
third wis another Company A officer waned Aharon Eshel, known us Errol, in
part for his undeniably Trcol Tlynn-like swagger, but also an actonya of his
Hebrew name. But the crowing addition to the sroup liad the distinction of
having led the last successful Tseeli bugging mission on the Golan, in addition
10 being the most respected commando in Tseael. a man who Dayan would Tater
call the country’s greatest soldier. It was Meir 1lar-Zion lumself.
owe
1 was part of the second group of recruits to Saverer Matial, in the early
summer of 1960. The unit had been given its own base barely a year carlier. 3u
ic hiad yet to carry out a single mission, and there was no sign of that happening.
Avrabiam couldn't be sure when, or if the generals in the kirya might give hin
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the go-ahead. Sul, he was convinced that if we could demonsieate a Loughoess,
conumiument and competence which offered an obvious addition Lo [sracl’s
intelligence capability, even they wauld recognize the folly of nat using it,
He made every one of us feel a purt of making this possible. | was onc of ten
new recruits, bringing the size of the sayeret 10 twenty. We were almost all
teenagers. In fact, the oldest of our officers was 21. Most of the men were
Sephiurdi Jews. For a unit like ours, with the wim of imdurtaking sceret missions
in Arzh countvies, Avraham believed that a background in Avabic culuure and
language was an important asset. [ was the sayeret's only lock-picker. But all of
us had been recruited mn the much sume way that [ was, It was how the top
Patmach units had been formed, and the way Sharon assembled Unit 101:
friends recommending friends. in my case, my old yeled chniz schoolmate from
the kibbutz,
We trained in the whole range of commands skills. We nsed not only Usis,
but Soviet-made Kalashnikovs and Gurivaoy machine guas. We worked with
detonators and explosives, We staged raids on Israeli airfields. We conducted
excrcisis using rubber dinghics 10 practice attacking from fhe sca. Bul mostly
we walked. For hundreds of miles, altos always al night the length and breads
of fhe country. We would study a map of each area, committing: every town or
village, hilltap or dry creck bed, to memory before we set off, 1 can sill
semember what Meir Haron told us: 10 be truly prepared, you useded to
spend “an hour for an hour” — an equal time mastering the lay of the land tw the
amount you'd need ta carry out an operation. [t was a gruelling regime
designed fo push 1s 10 the very limits of endurance. On one series of excreises,
we were limited Lo a single canteen of water as we trekked deep into the Negev
Desert. It was gruelling, designed to push us ro the very limits of endurance. [
remember he first time Frrol sei eyes on me afer | joined the mil. He twmed lo
Avraham, laughed, and said: “Are we taking high school kids now?” But before
long, Iwas a “high school kid” no longer.
Meir Ha=7aom sirely look a direel pat in our exereises. On his fing]
Company A mission, a mouth before the 1956 war, he had been shot in his
throat and arm. A medic saved his life by performing a tracheotomy. But his
speceh was affected, und he snll bid almost no use of his right wm, Erol,
Micha Kapista aud Yitzhak Gibli were more actively involved swith us. icy
were there not only to help tain us, but to instill a commando attitude. a spirit
of confidence bordering on bravada,
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Kapusia was our guide on our punishing five-day treks through the Negev
Though Avraham would see us oflat the start, he stayed back at the base. In a
couple of the exercises, we relied on carrier pieans to keep in touch with the
bse, ntl Kaepiasta begga killing them for dinner. Once, on a scavingly bot
desert afternoon, hours fiom the nearest hospital. he spotted 4 poisonous snake.
Tle used pieces of wood to pry its head up from the sand, erabbed its neck and
strangled iL
We also studied some Arabic, though most of the Sephardi recruits already
spoke the language. My tutor was a Cairo-born Jew named Amin. In part
because he enjoyed mathematics and played the violm, we hit it off
inmmediiely. He was abso deal in one ve. Languages hive never been my forte
Even in Tebrew, T have a slight lisp. That made mastering Arabic even harder.
Sill, Amin would frequently compliment me on my accent, at which point the
aters in the class would point out tha was lucky he was hard of heaving.
A year in, we were given a classroom briefing ou what to do if we fll into
enemy hands. The gist was to tell them only our name, rank and serial number.
Bul we had a special session with Gibh, wha told ws about wh captivity was
seally like. He had been shot and wounded during a cetaliation operation in 1954
and was captured by the Jordanians. Until his release. he was kept in solitary
confinement and tortured, The details of ns imprisonment, the beatings and the
cigarette burns, were lurid. Partly because we were developing a bil of
commando self-confidence — but mostly to hide the discomfort of wondering
how cach of us would react fo bem in enemy hands we heckled him over im
account. hit seemed 0 gel more heroic with cach retelling. He wisely ignored
us. Tle told us that survival would be down not just to physical strength. Tt
required strength of mind, the kind of subtlety required to give yout captors
something to keep therm at bay and 10 establish some fom of human bond, to
but withhold anything of geouine value
A few weeks later. the whole saveret held a four-day exercise in the Galilee.
On the second might, at boul four in the moming, we shook off our backpucks
and settled in for & few hours’ sleep. The first thing | heard was shouting in
Arabic. T saw a guy hovering over ie, his face covered. Ile handcuiled me,
pulled a burlap sick over my hed, yanked me to me fect and led me off, We
were piled info the back of truck. From the whispered comments around me, |
assumed all twenty of us had been taken. We drove for nearly four hours.
Twice, | gol am slap across the fice, mare painful because of the burlap. 1 kept
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telling myself this fad 10 be part of our Leaining. IF it was for real, we'd have
been more badly beaten, or killed. Still, 1 couldn't be completely sure.
The truck lurched to a stop. We were led into a building, down a hallway and
into a large room. The walls were bre except for a series of won vings. Our
captors wre the sacks from our heads for a few moments, and tied our wrists to
the manacles. For the first six or seven hours we were kept toether. arms
shackled and raised. Then they took us way ane by on. 1 was the last fo be led
out. | was taken 10 a room so small there was not even space for a col. It wasn’t
ntl the last shaft of light disappeared trom the slit-like window near the top of
wall that the first mterrogutor shawed up. He unlocked fae door, entered and
snfolded meted elusic. He wanted answers: whit anil ws | Grom, what did our
unit do. who were our commanders, what were our orders, and what was our
desigmated role m the event of war,
1 tokd him my mame, rank and seal number. Aller each question, 1 repeated
them, or shook my head in silence, “You will answer, sooner or later,” he
shouted in heavily Arabic-accented Hebrew, hitting me across the face, “All of
you wll.” For four days and nights, other interrogtors shouted aut the same
questions. | was slapped dozens of times. Punched in the stomach. Que of the
captors uncuffed me and bent my arm behind my back, wrenching it upward.
Though | was determined not 0 cry out, | grmted in pain, Over and over, 1 told
myself: “This is aot for real. They can hurt me. Bu they have limits. They can
twist my arm. They can hurt me. But there's no way they can break my arm”
Twas not allowed to sleep, 1 wis never lett alone for more than a half-hour,
171 was crouching on the ston Moor, | would be yanked to my feel sud punched
or slapped. Twice a day. I was taken from my cell to a primitive toilet and piven
minute fo relieve myself. There were only two changes ta the routine, On a
Fow occisions, five or six of ws were brought buck imo the kgs room and fold
wee wouldn't be lel go until we had given them more of what they wanted — the
implication being that some of us had already faliced. And once or twice, the
interrogators sent in a good cop. “Lean Aelp you,” he told me. “But you have to
give me something
But when it was over, none of us had talked. We didn’t fool ourselves jouw
thinking that meant we could hold up m genuine captivity, There, they could
bicuk your sun. They could burn your chest with eigarciles, vip out a Ggensil
ora tooth. They could kill you. The main value iad been to ive us some sense
of what we igh Face. We might still be afraid, but at least it would no longer
be fear of the unknowa.
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Challenging though our training was, T found every bit of it enthralling and,
with cach new test passed, somehow empowering and exhilicating. This was all
the mare remarkable because we hud still yet to carry aut u single operation, If
anyone other thin Aveahim had been in charge, 1 ihink the wal might heve
uncaveled. The fact that it dido't was mostly duc 10 of the eros he created, the
feeling that we were a special breed with a cricically important common
puspose, and that sooner or later we would be called un to do special things.
When we were in uniform, it was camouflage dress. When we were on the base,
we mostly ware sandals and shorts, We called each other by our first names.
even the officers.
Init frst Few years, the sayeret sometimes fel loss like en amy unit than a
college fraternity. Every spring. we organized a feast in a cavernous hangar on
the edge of aur compound. It was called Chug ha Pri. the Feast of the Fruit. For
days shead of the event, we would mount night raids on kibbutzim, “liberating”
erates of every kind of ruil imaginable, and chicken and lamb if we got lucky
The only rule was that none of us would steal from our own kibbutzin,. Among
the wets al the Fest of the Frail was an unsuspecting selection of senior
alficers whom Aveaham know. A few of them got into the spiciL, like Dado
Elazar, his Palmach commander fiom 1948. The Palmach had held similar
foodfests, wilh delicacies urabbed from nearby kibbutm. Dado wis by this
time commander of [sachs armored corps. Since dur sayeret was always short
of gasoline for our exercises, he would divert surplus supplies to us. But other
guests were less impressed with the pyramids of oranges and avocados and
mangos and watermelons. 1 could almost hear a voice sexcaming inside them:
these are Isracli soldiers. They're stealing this stuff.
"A
It was not until the autumn of 1961, nearly eighteen months after [ arrived.
hit if seemed we might actually be given a real mission. This was higely due
toa change at the top of the military. For much of the 1950s, when Dayan was
chief-of:staf, his ripht-hand-man was a [laganah veteran named Meir Amit, In
1961, the term of Dayan's successor as chief of staff, Haim Laskov, was coming
tan end and Amit was in the mix lo get the top job. Le wes already [lead of
Operations. Tn practical terms. that made him the number-two man in the armed
frees. Bul the job went 10 Tavi Tar, Luskoy’s deputy, Ami decided to aceep!
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the post of Tlead of Military Intelligence. Tie knew the importance of
intelligence, and the potential cost of Israel being taken by surprise in a future
war, biving been part of the top military leadership during Rotem. He was
energetic, bright, and exuded am infections sense of self-confidence and
authority. le also had clout at headquarters. If he decided the Lime had come tw
revive cross-border intelligence operations. there was every chance it would
lappen
Still, it was an agonizingly slow process. By the lime my period of military
service was drawing: to an end, it hadn't happened. I did not seriusly think of
leaving, Though my twa years in Sayeret Matkal had been the most physically
demanding of my lif, they were also the most ful illing. 1 dic not want io
forfeit the chance of being part of its finally becoming an operational unit. So T
committed to it least a few mare years in the military. | joined my closest friend
among the recruits, Uri Zakey, for six months in officers” school as we waited,
ar hoped, for approval to zetually use the skills and qualities we had acquired in
the saveret.
And in the summer of 1962, shortly afler 1 retumed to the unit from offices
school as a sceoud-licutenant, the green light finally came:
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Chapter Foue
AufisL, it was only “approval in principle. Is impossible to overstate the
trepidation with which [srael’s military brass, and Ben-Gurion himself,
approched the decision Finally 10 send Sayerel Markal int achion. 1 ws not
just the Fact that we were a unit uiterly untested in the field. The stakes in the
mission we were contemplating were enormous. Tor the first time since Uri
Ty's deseperalc wet of suicide in a Damasens fail eell, Israch soldiers wonkd be
crossing into Arab territory on an intelligence mission. Amid continuing
tensions with the increasingly militant rulers of Egypt and Syria, there seemed
little doubt that at some stage we would again have to fight to defend our
sceurity, perhaps even our existence us & state. The Rotem debacle had
highlighted the danger of a surprise attack, potentially leaving us in a scramble
to call up reserve units as Syrian or Egyptian tanks advanced on our borders.
Bul the memory of Uri llan remind 1 haunting veminder of the risks of failure.
My tole, again, came down pacily to accident. The man initially chosen to
lead the operation was someone ['d liked from my first days in the sayeret
Yw'ukov Tal, known us Tubul, was # year older than me. He carne from Uiberias
io the orth of [sracl. As a teenager, he'd worked for extra pocket money
alongside shepherds in the hills above the Sea of Galilee, picking up a near-
ent command of Arabic. He wis self-confident without a face of arrogance,
with a natural talent for counceting with his soldiers. Tn my cose, tere was a
further bond: a shared fascination with math and sciences.
But Tubul had applied to the leading, technology institute in sracl, the
Techion near Huila. As he began training his four-man team to cross onlo
Sycia’s Golan Tleights, he received wood that he'd been accepted. The academic
ear wouldn't begin until September, and it had been assumed at first that the
aperation world happen before then. But even though Mer Amit wis pressing
the rest of the military brass foc 2 final go-ahead. it still hadn't arrived by early
August. Avraham decided he needed a fall-back plan. Ile called Tubul and me
into his office. He sid be waned me to join the lcam’s tram as Tabul’s
deputy, and Lo be ready to step in as commande if that proved necessary. When
we next heard from Amit, a week later. it became clear the mission would not
‘happen in time for Tubul to lead it.
We would be siting out from the northeast comer uf tsrac, @ patch of
parkland near a kibbutz called Dan. only a mile or so trom where Uri llan’s
group liad begun its mission. This tine, however, the target wis more
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ambitious. We intended 1 bug the communications line cunning east from
Banias, the Syrians” base in the nob of the Golan, toward Quaeitea, their main
headquarters, That meant taking a langer route, beginning with @ climb onto a
phatcan shout 200 feet high und crossing the Banas River foward the Syn
base.
We had nearly three weeks for our final preparations. After two years of
sayeret teainmg, 1 was confident that, physically, we would be up to the task.
Bul even wilhou te obvious jitters emanating from the kirva, | could nol help
but be aware of the possibility, and the cost, of failure. Every evening, [ would
stake out time to wo through everything that might concenvably wo wrong, Yeurs
ater, when | went to do my graduste studies at Stanford, | wis exposed 10
words of wisdom Irom a non-kibbutznik — Benjamin Franklin — which probably
‘best summed up what drove my planning for the sayeret’s first operation, and
the others that would follow. “Tailiog to prepare.” be wrote, “is to preparing foc
failure.”
Running into Syrian soldiers was, of course, top of the list of potenial
pitfalls. Bul and mines were also u danger. 1 got a map of the arca from mibtary
intelligence which, in theory at least, showed the location of mines all along the
edge of the Golan. But it had been compiled over a period of nearly two decades
on the buss of mformation from shepherds, smugglers and the occasional Arab
aaenl. Whenever they reported seeing the telliale combination of feneing and
yellow danger triangles, the place was marked. Once it was marked, no one in
intelligence headquarters dared erase it. The result was that the map now
showed an almost wbroken sireich of mines. And within the amount of time
that we had to gel ready. there was no way of knowing which of the minefields
was still there.
The timmyg was chosen by the eyele of the noon, We wanted lo cross to
Syria in as near 10 total darkness as possible. That meant the final days of
September, Unlike Tubul, who had been commanding the team from the
moment they bid joined the sayeret, 1°d been working with them for only
couple of months. My deputy for the operation, Avi Telem, was also a
newcomer. But ie was smart. steady and he had served in the Golani Brigade,
$0 hie knew the tervam wong the border.
Avuahuarn couled not hide his own nervousness as the apertion drow nerer.
A week before we were due to set off, he asked whether we were planning a
further, full-scale exreise. When | suid he tal na-through was sci. Gov the
following night. in the Negev, he wld me he wanted Meir Uar-Zion Ww attend.
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During the exercise, Meir said nothing at all. 1 couldn’ help wondering
whether, despite our nearly daily exercises, and my nightly stock-taking, I'd
somehow missed an obvious defail in our planning, When we got back fo the
sayeret bisse, Avraham was waning for us. “Well?” he asked Meir, “1 hey don’t
need me.” he said. “They know what they te doing.” [L was not just a source of
reassurance for me, but a luge relief for Avrahara.
The team I'd mherited from Tubul included three fled soldiers with
different backgrounds, and difftreut skills. Molti Nagar was born in Cairo. He
was short but solidly built. smart, level-headed and almost always smiling. Kuti
Shara grew up ina Yemen family in an impoverished neighborhood in Tel
Aviv. He liad a self-deprecating sense of humor, a quick mind and sometimes
even quicker tongue, bul an extraordinary ability to focus oa the task at hand.
The third member was a kibbutznik, His name was Moshe Flimelech, We called
him Moshiko. Utterly self-contained. a man who spoke anly when absolutely
necessary, he lso brought two different qualities to the mission. One was going
tobe indispensable: an almost squirtel-like ability to climb trees. Or telephone
poles. The other, of which [was i bil more leery, was a total, deeply imsional,
abscace of fear
Though none of us needed a further reminder of the weight being attached to
our mission, the night before we headed north, Avraham got a call from the
chief-ul- stalls ullice. Tevi Tour wanted 10 see me the next morming for
personal briefing. T tried 10 get Avraham 10 say no. pointed out that if we
didn’t get going by ten o'clock at the fates, we'd risk thrawny everything off
schedule. Bul “no” was not an option. Afr some farther back-md-Rorth, il wis
agreed that T would meet the commander of Tssael's armed occes at nine the
next morning ar a gas station north of Tel Aviv and join him for the 20-minute
drive along: the constal rond 10 1 speaking engl be had in Netanya
1 saw Avraham again before 1 set ofl, “We are beginning au extremely
critical 24 hours for our unit, the intelli rence comps, in fact for the armed forces
as a whole,” he told me. “1 don’t know what might happen, No one does, Jus!
semernber two things. First, out there, in the field. vou are the ramatkal the
chief of sta. TTe told me that only T and my ean: could judge and respond to
what we encountered once the operation started, “And second, this mission hax
in be accomplished.”
Tel see the seal ramatkael. Before we began the drive to Netanya, he asked
me fo unfold the mip 1d brought with me amd talk bin through, siep by sip,
hove we planned to get onto the Golan, plant the bugging device, and got back
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again. The more T talked, however, the move [sensed that the details weren't
what General Teur really wanted wo know. [ think what he actually wanted to
gauge was whether / felt confident. He wanted to reassure himself he wasn’t
Tuking amy more Than he obvious risks in sending us, in Uri Tan's Goorsteps,
back inwo Syria. loctunately, he didn’Lask whether | was suce we'd succeed. If
he had, 1 would have said, yes, we were prepared. But there was no way we
could be certain. Still, he must have got what he wanted. When we reached the
edge of Netanya, be shook my hand, wished me luck and went on bis way
The rest of the team was wailing at the crosscoads for me to join them. Two
teams, m fact; mine, with whom 1d be crass inta Syma in less than 10 hours
time, and or billatz, or back-up. A hillutz wis always a part of sayeret
operations. The back-up group would stay on the Israeli side of the border. If we
ot into rouble, they'd come in after us.
Fven after my bricfing for the chic of staf, we had ane last stop lo make on
the way noril. IL was al the headquarters of the army's northern command. It
was in a Tegart fortress. one of dozens built by the British around the country,
with watehtowers on cach corner of the outer walls. The northern commimder
was an equally forbidding figure. Aveaban YofTe had served in the British
artillery in the Second World War and the Golani Brigade in 1948. He used to
joke with other officers that while they looked like a bunch of kids, he was the
anly ane with the rue hearing of 2 general
Tle must have been busy when we arrived, because we ended up hanging
around in the courtyard for nearly 20 minutes, Just as | was beginning tw worry
thet the timetable for what really mattered — our climb up onto he Golan — was
being put at risk, I noticed that off to the side was a beautifully polished jeep. [
assumed it belonged to General Yofte, who was known to be an avid amter and
would later become Ure head of Ismel's National Parks Amthority. 11 bad a
padlocked metal grill on the back which held wo jerrycans of gasoline. Yori
Cohen, the commander of the back-up team, and 1 spotted the fuel containers at
fhe same time. We couldn't help smiling, Yes, we were about to embark on an
poration which, assuming we didn't fail, would finally give Isracl real-time
incelligence from across our border for the first time since the 1950s. But we
were still Suyeret Matkal, snll chromeally short of gasalme for our field
exercises. And | still hadu’t forgotten how fo pick a lock. As Yori stood guard, |
broke into the grill and removed the jerrycans, one for each of us, and closed it
again, Then, after briefing the general, we headed to our setfing-off point, Yofte
himself left 10 join Avraham Aman and Meir Amit's intelligence deputy,
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Alaleh Yaciv, in the command post for due mission, atop a bill on the Tscacli
side of the northern border.
The sun set at around seven, but we waited tor darkness. It was nearly eight
when we sel ont, Twenly nannies later, we crossed the border. | led the way,
with Moti Nagar, Moshiko, Kuti Sharabi and, finally, Avi Telem behind. We
carried the bugging equipment and our tools in our backpacks. Avi and 1'had a
pair of binoculars, Mine were bulkier, but offered a shihtly better view i the
durkuress. Each of us had an Uzi and a pair of grenades. All our planning hud
been aimed at petting on to the Golan, installing the bug and getting out again. If
all went well, no one wauld even know we'd been there, Rut we had practiced
what 10 do if things went wrong. [challenged or ambushed by i Syrian patrol
we would operate by old Company A rules. We would open (ire
The climb anto the plateau wasn't too wih, not nearly as hard as our
sayeret fathimg treks, When we reached fhe op, there was no obvious sign of
any Syrians. Still, we had lo move slowly. Liven with my binoculars, 1 could sce
‘barely 30 yards into the moonless night, and 1 had to scan the route ahead, back
and forth, to make sire there were none of the fences or wiming sigs o keep
the Syrians’ own suldicts, or unsuspecting shepherds. from a minefield. Soon,
however, we found an obviously well-used footpath which 1 figured was very
likely to be safe.
When we had walked a few mines, we found ousselves going through a
tangle of bushes and reeds, some of them up to two feet high, still dry and
eruckly from the summer, Aside trom the riskc of tripping, [ knew the naise we
were making might aire atiention. 1 old the rest of the team to hung back 20
yards behind me. I moved forward to make sure the route was clear before
signaling them to follow. | had been slightly nervous on the clint up. not so
muh because | expected ronble bil because there wits no way of knowing
what 1 expect. Much as | tried 10 put the concerns of the geaerals from my
mind, 1 also knew that this was no ordinary mission, But almost immediately,
fhe nerves had gone, and [was now focused only an gelling ns through the next
minute, the next 20 or 30 yards of the Golan.
Bu as soon as we'd made it accoss the plateau. we ran into trouble. We
needed fo crass the Banias River, On our map, I'd picked aut what looked fo be
w shallow ford. Bul the water was much higher thin we expected. After
spending 30 minutes scouting the bank for 150 yards in either direction. we
sctlled om whit seemed 10 be the stisllowest pan. Yet we hadn't svnepied the
need ww cross a river in full flow. Worse, we'd never tained to do it. Not had we
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brought any special equipment. Unless we eould figure out a way 10 000ss — and
quickly — we would be putting the timetable for the whole operation at risk.
The only remotely useful tool 1 could find was two 25-foot lengths of
prrchule wire, We spliced them Together. 1 took the lead end and wadsd in. {
sunk up 10 above my chest, but managed to pet across. With Avi ‘Telem vn the
other bank holding his end of the wire. the others used it to help them cross. so
they stayed a bit drier. They also kept the micreept equipment dry, Finally, Avi
followed. But both be and 1 were now souking wel. We were also behind
schedule. We had covered less than half of the three-mile route to the telephone
pole, Even if we did manage to install the bugging device, the delay meant we
sight be spoticd on our way back To Ismael, We were under strict orders 1o um
back by 1:1 in the morning even if that meant not getting the intercept in place
And it was already past midnight,
We begin elmbing into the hea of the Heights, plaming to go sound the
southern edge of the Syrian base at Banias. The vegetation was sparser but vee
still ran the risk of making noise from the stones and larger shards of rock as we
weaved our way up. Within 10 minutes, {contd see the vague outhne of the
army camp: several lacge buildings for several hundred Sytian troops, singed by
trenches with security outposts and a barbed-wire fence on the perimeter.
Far u half-hour or so, we moved forward in a kind of rubber-hand formation,
{would advirnee ws quicily as | could, listen or signs of Syrian troops, sen the
area ahead with my binoculars and wave the others to follow. But as [ prepared
to move forward again, | suddenly felt a tug on my shoulder, 1t was Moshiko,
and the very fact of his speaking was prooC of his alarm, “Ehud, "we've gol to
go faster.” he said. “We won't get there in time." I said [ understood. But I told
him to wait for the athers to catch up and stay behind with them as 1 scouted the
way ahead. SHI by the tine the outer fence of the base came io view, the
others had picked up theic pace. They were only 15 fect behind me.
It was then 1 heard the sound of movement. I motioned the others down. Ac
first, 1 thanght it was a wild animal. But then | noticed. 20 feet in front of us and
a bit of our right on a slight rise. a group of three Syrian soldiers. They were
Iying on rocky scrubland 40 yards outside the fence. One was tossing and
fuming, Another wats snoring, | maneuvered my Uzi info firm position just in
case. We wailed for a minute. Then wo. But it seemed clear they really were
sleeping.
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Then, from directly behind me, came another sound: the hiss of Avi’s bulky
two-way radio. T was worried we'd end up waking the Syrians. But just as T wes
figuring aut how to make sure we got past them before that happened, Avi drew
up beside me.
“Lhud,” he whispered. “11s 1:15. The command post ordered us w tun
back.”
“Turn off the radia.” | said, my hand on his elbow, reassuringly | hoped, as
led him and the others back a full 100 feet from the Syrians. We ook a wider
toute around the camp. We moved much more quickly on the final mile to the
road that led toward Quneifea, We were now well clear of the camp, and [ felt it
ws unlilcely wed rin nto a patrol. 1 wis also confident we'd hive un casicr
rerurn trip. Tknew what had held us up on the way in: finding a path on the
plateau clear of mines, figuring out how to crass the river, and the general
wnfamifiarity of the terran. Nove of those apphed now. [fell we could gel the
bugging job doe and still be beck befine dawn. As we gol carer the road, Avi
asked me a couple of more times whether he should turn the radio back on.
“No.” 1kept telling hm. “17s OK. Ul iefl yon when”
1 was thon two in the moming when we reached the road. We found i
telephone pole set back on the edge of a field. Moshiko hoisted himself onto
Kuti Shurabi’s shoulders, clambered up the pole and installed the bugging
device. The entire opertion ook him less than 10 minaies. We moved nore
quickly on the way back. By around 3:30, we had crossed the river. “You can
tum on the radia now,” [told Avi, who was obviously relieved. He handed if to
ne. Using our agreed code wouds, reported our loeation, and added the prise:
for “mission accomplished.”
When we began our final descent, it was starting: to get light, [ assumed we
were ner enough to the border to make it inlikely we'd be shotat, Still, there
was a danger we'd be spotted by a pateol, so T was relieved when we reached the
mound of boulders, more than ten feet high. that served as a taal barrier outside
Kibbutz Dan, When we stepped behind it, {sinw that nof anly Aveahm, but
Meir Amit as well. were waiting. The Ulead of Military Intelligence said
nothing, He didn’t have to. Ie just shook my hand, beaming. Avraham grabbed
each of us, one by ane, in a bear hug,
Then, drawing me aside, Avntham sawd tht 1 had only mnrowly missed
landing in deep rouble. T assumed my transgression was shutting off the radio
and disobeying the order fo retim. That was jist part of the problem, however.
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Despite Genceal Yolle’s angry protests in the command post, Avraham had wold
him what he'd told me back at the base: that once an upesation like this was
underway, only the commander on the spot could make life-or-death decisions.
Uw “the ramatkal in the Geld” But YorRe bud also discovered thi his
jertyeans uf gasoline were missing. Tle insisted that if and when | returned
safely from the Golan, I be handed over to the military police.
1 don’t know what | would hive told the general if he'd asked me dircetly
whether 1 broke into his jecp. But in the mix of celebration and relief tat the
Syrian operation had succeeded, 1 got away with what amounted to a plea-
bargin, | promised bath Mer Amit and Avrabum at least one of whom
helioved me = that i would not happen again
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Chapter Five
Almost no one in Israel knew what we had done. But the next morning, a
package arrived at the Sayeret Matkal base fiom ane of the few people who did
We opened it in Avraham’ office. 1 was u neark full carton of champagne:
seal. Trench champagne, since it would be years before Tsracl’s embeyonio wine
industry produced anything similar. Inside was a note from the chief of Staff.
“For the success of the operation,” General Tzu had written. “Minus two
bottles... 0 teach Ehud Brog not to shut off his field radio.”
T assumed that his reprimand was tongue-in-cheek. for the same reason ['d
escaped being locked up on General Yoffe's orders as a gasoline thief. Had we
been captured on the Gola, the very future of Ue seyeret as an operational
intelligence unit would have been put ac risk. Tzur, and Ben-Gurion as well.
would ave faced a reopening of all the old wounds from the Uri Ilan mission.
Bul not only had we managed to get in and onl of Syria iv one picee. We had
taken at least a first step toward erasing the blind spot in our incellipeace
capabilities shown up so dramatically by Rotem. A few days later, {received a
letter fram the chief of staff informmy me that [was ta receive my first zafaxh,
or operational decoratioa, in recognition of “a mission which contributed to the
security of the state of Israel.”
My own feelings were more mixed. [ was proud of what 1. and my team, had
accomplished. On a personal level, too, [ felt 1d reached an important landmark
on my ualikely journey from the winter mocning when I'd arrived as physically
fail, awkward kibbutz teenager at APC boot camp in the Negev; through my
years of sayeret training under the strict, sometimes sardonic, but always
supportive gaze of Tscael's most storied commandos; to, now. having begun to
make a real contribution to Avrabam’s vision of a new kind of Istaeli military
unit, But while Avram, General Tzur und our other military and mtelhizenee
chiefs celebrated our mission, T felt not so much triumph as relief. T didn’t kid
myself: 1 knew that the operation could just as easily have pone wrong. In fact,
it very nearly did, through ercars or omissions | had made. | made that point, in
general lems, when we joined Avraham and the rest of the sayeret in a formal
debriefing. Buc that very nigh, just as 1 had in the days before we set off. I
wrote down in detail some of the oversights 1 knew 1'd have to correct if we
were lo sneeced mld her nissions.
Why hadn't] chosen a route that took us further away from the Syrian base
at Buns How hid 1 let us arrive so unprepared. inirined and uncquipped for
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crossing the swollen civer? Why bado’t [taken the time tw cheek the current
several miles downsivec inside Israel? And couldn’t we have moved more
quickly an the way in, even with the delay in crossing the river?
| ws aware of, und grateful for, the confidence Avraham had shown m me.
Ue bad taken a chance in choosing me lo lead the sayeret's first, critical
operation. He must surely have had doubts about whether 1 could handle the
task. Years later, 1 asked him abont it. He told me that he'd been relying on
inition. Yes, he tealized I'd had no experience of a real cross-border mission.
But that was true of everyone else in the unit as well. He was convinced that the
tools needed for success were self-confidence, attention fo detail and an ability ta
think and act in response to whist happend on the ground — all qualities which
he was confident that T possessed.
Now that we hud provided Israel access ta communications in the north of
the Golam, there was a demand for us 10 do the sme m other parts of The
Ucights. 1 was involved in nearly all of the missions we were asked undertake
in the months that followed, either as commander of the main force or the
hill, | was also soon training a new eam of weenats for fre operations. But
perhaps tie most important sign of Aviahan’s conlidence was to involve me in
early efforts ta broaden Sayeret Matkal's experience and reach beyond pure
intelhgenee missions ta create a trie speciul forees unit that could fight as
well.
Tauly in 1963, we hosted a visit to the unit by Colonel Alben Merglen, a
veterun of France's colonial wars in Indaching and Algeria, und commander of
the mrhorne conmundo force known as the 11" Demi-hrigude Parchatisies de
Choe. As the colonel looked on, I led a sayeret team on a live-fire raid in a
training area not far from [od Aimart, We attacked a position protected by
frenehes und conerele binriers and stonmed a two-story build, Eager 10
impress Mergelen, Aveaham even insisted on our wearing Ureuch-style berets in
pluce of helmets. 1 assume it was the attack more than the berets that did the
trick, But a couple of months later, Merglen proposed a series of exchanges, The
first would involve an officer from Sayerel Matkal officer spending cight weeks
on a counter-guerrilla commanders” course in the parachutistes” training
headquarters,
Avuahuann picked ic 10 go. The French base was in | Tih-centuy fortress
near Mont Lois. in the Pyrenees along the Spanish border. I'd never been
outside Isc, ut least legally. 1 had no passpon. 1 didn’t own a sil or ne. Bug
within days. I wes kitted and fitted. boarded an Il Al fight to Paris and, on a
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storm-tossed Caravelle, ew to Perpignan in southeastera Trance. There were
eighteen “shock parachutists” on the course. Thad just wrned twenty-one. Not
only were most of them ar least a decade older. They were the epitome of
Touglmess. The guy who langhi us how w set booby-faps hd parched
behind Geman lines in the Second World War. All of the men bad fought in
Indochina and Algeria. One had operated behind Vietminh lines, surviving for a
year-and-a-hall vn nuts, berries, ree bark and snakes. With the benefit of my
sayeret aining. | was at least theic qual in fitness. 1 had also not spent years
consuming; prodigious amounts of alcohol and smoking Giranes, But I'd never
experienced anything nearly as demanding: as some of the training we were put
though,
With backpacks crammed with Alpine militery gear and lead weights as
well, we hiked on to the peaks overlooking the fartress, They were covered with
snow and iee from about 6,500 feet upward. We wudged for hours, shifting 10
snowshoes with cleats for the ice. We were Laught how to dig caves in the snow
and to use ice axes ta keep from tumbling down the steeper inclines. We scaled
CIT Tacs, without safely eubles ores. Our Ingining inside the fortress always
included a break for lunch. Sinee the pacachiutistes de choe were, after all,
French, it was a Paris-restaurant-standard meal with copious quantities of wine.
[dida’t drmk al the time, but could hivdly abstain allogether. The first exercise
after lunch was pistol markseanship. The instructors kept well clear when it
was Duy turn.
Yet however impressed, even at times awestruck, I was by the toughness of
ihe French commandos, sud the obvious closeness they had bill during
combat, [ began to sense a darker side in them as well. They did't talk much.
Even if they had, my few words of French would not have been much help in
deciphering what made them tick. But every few nights, | would aceomypny
them when they walked into the small village down the road for a movie, ora
few drinks. and the locals would Literally cross the street to aveid us. Later. [
discovered thal every one of my French comnades Bud been mvolved in the
OAS. the far-right anti-De Gaulle opposition in the French army in the late
1950s. In Algeria. they had mounted free-lance attacks on the insurgents, and on
civilians as well. Though Algeria had been granted independence the year
before, these men were unreconciled Ww iL. In fact, & few months afier my lime in
Mont Louis, the Demi-brigade was dismantled, when several of ics op officers
were found ro be involved in an assassination plot against President De Gaulle,
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Aller my retuen in June 1963, Aveaham asked me to share my experiences
with the other sayeret officess. [ began with the positives. T singled out the sense
of self-confidence, allied with individual strength and teamwork, that the French
compimdos hid developed from expose io almost meredible exireres of
danger. I believed that their success depended not ou climinating risk. We all
knew that was impossible. It was about professionalism developed over a period
af years by mea who bad served wgether in the toughest of circumstances. But |
also mentioned their dacker side, which seemed w me a reminder of the danger
of the misapplication of the very qualities which made them a formidable
military torce. “The ethos of a unit like theirs, and like ours, is essential to
making us strong.” | said. “But what | saw in liauce was an entice ceosysiem
that these guys had created, extremely patriotic in their own minds, reinforced
by one another. But dangerous for society as a whole.”
ew
Tt would be nearly a decade betare Saveret Matkal became not just a military
intelligence unit, but a fighting force, and [ would un oul to have a central role
in making that happen. But there was an almost equally daunting challenge we
were called on to lack first a exilical one, i€ Ismael was going 10 be truly
prepared in the case of a further war. Tor while our bugging missions on the
Golan had reduced our vulnerability to a surprise attack in the north, the real
challenge of Rotem had yet to be addressed. It was Fypt with its hundreds of
battle tanks, and hundieds of thousands of men under arms — Lhat was by far our
most powerful Arab enemy. President Nasser wasted no opportunity to flaunt
his determination to fight, defeat and ultimately erase the state of Israel. But we
still had no rehable, real-time mtellgence on his forces.
Tixing that. if such an operation was even possible, would make oue bugging
operations on the Golan look like mere boy-scout missions. We could not
simply walk into Egypt with ous backpacks, fia a telephone pole on one of the
few roads crossing the vast expanse of desert, and attach a bugging device. The
idea was to tap into the main military communications cable in the Sinai. That
meant using a vastly more powerful, and far bulkier, intercept apparatus,
weighing more than halla ton. Lven getting it into Lgypt would be a problem
We certainly couldi’t carry it our backpacks, of tow it across the sand. Tven if
we Figured a way fo get it there, we wonld still have 1o duz up the Eizypuan
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cable, install the machinery. cover our tracks and get back into Israel again
undetected. Tven if we managed w avoid getting captured, without completely
camoufluging what we'd dane, the Egyptians would discover what we had
done, almos! certainly tipping off Syria as well To our bugging operations on the
Golan Ileights.
The difficulties with a Sinai operation weren't just theoretical. Almost a year
before leading the first mission an the Golan, I'd actually been myolved in
preliminary planning, and fairly detailed traiving., for such mission in the
Sinai. We'd ended up abandoning the idea as obviously unworkable.
But Meir Amit, not just our unit's overall commander in the kirve but Chief
of Operations dum Role, recoumized thal geting inlelligence sceess lo
Teypt was central to Israeli security. Tle was intent on reviving the plan to tap
into Nasser's communications in the Sinai. So was Avraham Aman, He enlisted
the haeking of an old friend, Un Yarom, whe wis now commander of the Ismael
Air Voree and was cager 10 put ow (eet of recently acquired Sikorsky §-58
helicopters to operational use. When Avraham called me in to tell me what he
ach mind, he begin by saying it wonld be “by fir the grestest challenge
we've contemplated” — Lypically disarming candor, but also a challenge which
I'm pretty sure he knew would only increase my determination to at least try.
The flight in wonld be difficult enough, Ise! hud never before tried such 1
Teliborne mission. But he told me that wasn't my problem. “1 hat will be Uri's
job.” The really testing part would be to carry out an mission, at night, deep
inside Egypt, cover our tracks and get out agam in one piece, “Stull, ('m sure
that we can suceced,” he said. “And | want you and your team tw do it”
Liven now. move thao hall-a-century later, sone of the details of how we
planned ta tap inta the Egyptians” communications remain classified. But once
1d chosen my team of sere! soldiers for The mission, we tnsined For arly
nine months. We drafied in ecologists to identify arcas of the Negev similar to
the terrain we’d tind in the Sinai. We developed a series of methods to prevent
Firyptian soldiers or scouts From discovering lhl we'd been there assuming,
of course, we managed 10 get in, attach the interecpt, and return safely. [Lwasa
relentless process of tial... and error.
One of the many reasons we'd abandoned the plan a couple of years earlier
wass thal, in a nighttime exercise 10 see whether we could avoid detection by
Israel's own crack desert scouts, we'd failed utterly. Now, after many weeks of
teaming in the Negev, we diel, Ginlly, succeed — in a fest numiing for four
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straight nights which replicated. as nearly as we could, what we intended to do
across the border in the Sinai. 1 was as if we'd never been there at all
Yet there were the errors, setbacks and frustrations as well. Many months
into our planmng, we condueted # series of run-thronghs in which we simulated
attaching the intercept to [sracl’s telephone network in the south, nol far from
the camp where ["d done my riroawz. Though it all seemed to go as planned, the
next moming in rained heavily, Within hours, the phone company was wetting
sepocts (vom all around southern Israel of phones malfunctioning. Even
allowing for the fact it rained less in the Sinai. we had to address the risk. [ went
to see the people in Meir Amit’s technology unit, and they began developmyz a
waterproofing sysiem (ov the equipment
The main peoblent with the equipment, however, was its sheer weight. The
helicopter could get us, und it, into Firypt, But we couldnt fly directly to the
cable site i the Sma. We mht just as well fell the Egyplisns we were on ou
way. At around 1,100 pounds. it was much too heavy for us carry. And if we
were groin to to ahead with the mission, time was running shart, A date for the
operation had been set by the irya: February 1964. 1 was not alone in beficving
that, unless we eracked the problem of getting the equipment o the cable site,
the operation was impossible,
The solution came from a staff officer in military intelligence. Meir Amit
visited our base once a month o he how the propurations were woing. With the
date getting closer, he broughe along his entire staff. When I raised my concein
about the weight problem, a colonel fram his personnel section said; “Why not
build a lightweight rickshaw, small enough lo get in the door of the helicopter,
but which can carry all or most of the equipment once you're on the ground?”
Within days, they had a prototype, made of airline-standard tubing and designed
10 be pulled hy two men. We held an exercise in the Negev. But il was almost
impossible foc Lwo men to pull through the sand. lL also lef deep zig-zag
imprints in the sand, which would surely raise the suspicions of the Fyyptians.
But prototype number-two wis « four-wheel, chrome alloy cart, The
technology experts had made the axles telescopic, so the vehicle would get
through the door of the chopper but could be expanded to the width of an
Fuyptian army Jeep. They had borrowed nose wheels from a training jet. To
complete their oeuvre, they ghied on veal fire ircd from one of the uyptian
Jeeps we had captured in the 1956 war.
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We were as ready as we were ever going Lo be. We got the final go-ahead
from in mid-February. Our backpacks were crammed full with the whole array
of equipment we'd designed, commandeered or purchused for the mission
including mtal detector we gol from i hobby shop in Pemsylvani. All he
cargo except our personal pear, out weapons and vue commuications
equipment was loaded onto the cart. A comand post was set up in a few
wooden buts ua Mount Keren in the Negev, complete with special antennas to
receive the intercept transmissions if we succeeded. Not since the fiat Golan
operation had the attention of the ky: been sa keen. or the stalkes so high, In
addition to Meir Amit, and of course Avraham, also flying down to Mount
Keron would be General Tus successor as armed forces chief of stall — a
gruff Palmach veteran whom I'd met very briefly at the end of my officer's
course but wha T would come to know well. and work closely with, in the years
head: Yitzek Rubin.
PE
The helicopter lifted oat ahout six-thirty at night. Compared to special
operations nowadays, the mission sill had a somewhat improvised feel about it.
Certainly, tht wars tre of the equipment we were ferrying in. and the tools
we'd devised Lo make sure we could get it installed and working. But the men in
my team were soldiers I'd trained from the day they arrived in the sayeret,
Achihud Madar was unfailingly surefooted, whether finding his way alone at
night on unfamiliar ground or in a firefight inside & building. Uc also had
natural dexterity. Tle and another of the soldiers who was also gifted with his
hands, Nissim Jou'ari, would be performing, the most technically delicate part of
the operation on the cable, The third member wis Oded Rabinovitch. Vall, thin
and quiet, he was absolutely reliable in whatever part of an operation he was.
given to execute. And as my deputy commander, I'd chosen a sayeret officer
named Kobi Meran, who'd been with me on a number of Golan missions, Over
six feet tall, he was probably the strongest man in the unit. quick-thinking and
utcerly undlappable
‘When we landed, we telescoped out the axles on the cart, The roar of the
departing chopper was replaced by silence. Under the soll light of hundreds of
stars, 1 led the way deeper into the desert. It took nearly an hour to reach the
saad lead to the cable site. Though maffie was light, {posted Oded and
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Nissim as lookouts. Kobi and T began digging a trench. The Lop layee of sand
was easy to remove. But then, just a few inches down, our shovels struck
something hard, Maybe it was a sheet of rock, Maybe sand packed fight over the
willeimia. Bul 1 wesisied all our steno break nongh.
We had 10 find a way lo get far enough beneath the surface ww install the
equipment. [ called back Oded and Nissim trom lookout duty. All four of us
attacked the subsoil with every toof in aur backpicks that could conceivably
help. 1 taok nealy three hours in all, Bu we finally managed 1o carve oul a
trench that seemed as if it might just do the job. It wasn't as deep or as wide as
we'd planed. But we were approaching a point where we would have fo give
wp. We couldu’L isk any more time digging, snd sill leave time 10 uitach the
ntereept unit, cover our tracks and make the rendezvous with the helicopter to
take us back into Israel.
Achibud and Nissim cramped themselves mio the hole and got lo work. like
Surgeons i an operating theater, silent except for the Caint hum of the intercept
equipment. Within a little less than an hour, they'd finished the main part of the
work, During our feaming exereises, we'd factored in a fill-back plan, is way of
ensuring we got the unit installed but without additional equipment 10 extend its
battery life. Since we were still behind schedule, | was tempred to stop while we
were ahead, But having come this far, and knowing the potential isles of a
further mission 10 refresh the power unit and replace the batteries, 1 old then to
Keep going, and also to fake the extra few minuies needed to make sure the
equipment was fimctioning,
We had 10 be ont of Egypt by first light, and we were now lel with more
than an hour's less time than we had reckoned ou to make it back to the
rendezvous point, There was anather problem, too, which [at first sensed mare
thm sw. A bank of foge was closing in. [act come in patches at first, but was
getting denser. We had the same radio we had taken on to the Golan. We'd
worked out codewards for each part of the operation but otherwise agreed ta
break silence anly iF ubsolitely necessary, Now, 1 hud no choice, 1f the fog
continued to thicken, it would block any chanee of the helicopter getting in. |
radioed the command post and said as calmly as I could: “The milk is coming.”
Tt wasn't elegant, But “mlk” was our cadeword for fog, The chopper would
now ry 0 bring us oul within 30 mines.
Moving more quickly now that the cart was nearly empty, we made our way
custwinrd. As conditions worsened, | radioed ugain wath w short senes of
numbers: directions for a new pickup point. Even that seemed like it might aot
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work. The fog now enveloped us completely. T brought ihe team to a sop. T
stayed with the cart while the other four outlined a landing acea with kerossae
flares in the hope that the pilot would see us, Tt was another five minutes when
we heard the thump of chopper blades. Though we cones see more than i few
Reet, I suddealy saw the outline of the landing gear and then the underbelly. Bul
the helicopter did not seem in control. It was drifting towards where [ was
standing with the eart. 1 was just seconds away from hitting me when its nose
wrenched upward. It landed wilh a judder a dozen yards away. Later, | leacned
the navigator had realized the craft was drifting and. just before impact, shouted
awaming fo the pilot.
We pied in, seeused the vart and took oft. Within minue, the murky
blanket of fog was below us. As we swooped back into Tseael, T could see the
first pink of sunrise. By the time we touched down at Tel Nof air force bse,
southeast of Tel Aviv, the command post in the Negev was receiving the frst
inteeepis
A few days later. one of the sayeret soldiers gave me a first-hand insight into
the mood in the commimd post in the final stages of the operation. Avsha
Horas role had been to act as sceurity guard for the lop brass in Mount Keren.
He occasionally took a peek inside. He described to me the atmosphere when 1
radioed my “milk is coming” message: solemn faces, hushed conversations
between Avradiam ud Meir Amit. And oft1o the side, the recently elevated
chief-of-staff. Rabin, chain-smoking and biting bis nails. Finally. the audible
sighs of relief when the pilot radioed m with his final message from the
chopper: “Out of the fog. Heading home.”
With the rest of the team, | was invited 10 sce Yitzhak Rabin ten days later.
We were being: given a further tzalash, This was the first time 1'd met him since
leaving officers” school twa years carlicr, when, with u few terse words, the
then-deputy chief of stall congratulated me aud several other cadets who
graduated with top honors. Thad felt a bit overwhelmed in his presence. Now, 1
was struck by how shy he seemed. He greeted cach of us with a tentative
Trandshake, und seemed uncomfortable in making eye contact. Ye once he
began asking me abou the Sinai operation itsel. it was as if he was
tanshrmed. He was hungry for every detail, anions lo know the way we'd had
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to adapt on the around. And obviously pleased that we'd found a way to make
the operation work
The Sinai mission marked a transition not just for me, but for others in
Sayeret Matkal as well, Aviaham Arman finally left the unit he'd imaged,
created and buill. Le became the head of the teehuology unit in military
intelligence. His deputy. Dovik Tamari, succeeded him, serving: the first in what
would become two-year stints for eich of his successors as the sayeret’s
commander. | wo. was given a wider role. Though [was still just @ young
lieutenant, and too junior for the job. Dovik made me his de fucto deputy, with
responsibility for operational oversight of our missians. | retumed to the Sin a
year later, nol fu thal capacity but beesuse of my on-the-ground experience, Lo
accompany a sayerel team which installed an intercept on a second Egyptian
communications cable,
Thongh the t7ahssh wis gratifying, what gave me more satisGaction, nd
pride, was the importance of the Sinai operations themselves. | was confident
that if we dif have to go to war again, the equipment we installed, alony with
the bugs on the Galan, would give us wn essential edie. But in truth, 1 didn’t
actually believe there would be another war. Sure, the tlieat was still there.
Egypt. in particular. still seemed determined to find a way to hobble, and it
possible eliminate, Israel, But especially since the 1956 war, the fedayeen
witacks, and cross-bovder skimiishes, bad been subsiding. Not long afier the
second Sinai intercept mission, T was chatting with other officers on ihe sayerel
base and remember turning to one of them and saying | was sure tht by the
tine | was married smd had 2 teenage ehild, we'd be able w take « skiing
holiday in Lebanon. We didn't have peace yet. That might teke time. But T fell
that things were getting more normal.
1 began thle what that would mean not just for Sayeret Matkal or Isuacl,
but for my own future. By the autumn of 1964, I'd reached a decision: 1o end
my active service in the unit that had been central to my lite since leaving the
Kiblbutz, Dovile did persuade me to delay, for nearly a year. Bul at the end of the
summer of 1965. 1 lef Sayeret Matkal. In fact, [left the anny eltogether. [weal
fo study mathematics and physics at TTebrew University in Jerusalem. I would
remain involved in the sayeret as a reservist, But | couldn’t see devoting my
adult lite 10 military service in a country which, fisumately, seemed on a
trajectory toward peace. T had spent five years in an extraordinaty unit. Tt had
been more fascinatmg and fulfillmg than 1 could have dreamed of when I'd
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(finished my tironut. Now I looked forward Lo pursuing a diffeccat path with
equal eagerness and energy.
There was also something else which colored my thinking, For the first time
in my hfe, 1 had allen m love:
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Chapter Six
The French have an expression for love at first sight: coup de foudre. A
thunderbolt. That was bow it felt when I'd sel eyes on mneieen-yeur-old Nili
Sookin in mid-Uebruacy 1963.
Tt was my first visit to the kirya in Tel Aviv. ['d been told to report to the
administrative section, fo register my formal change of status from a mere
draflee 10 a stall officer, something I'd managed w overlook amid the demands
of our first sayeret operations on the Golan. Since I didn’t knew which office to
wo fo, asked u girl site at a desk near the entrance. She looked up with a
wide smile. When she directed me 10 the second floor, il wisn '| just her voice
that swuek me: mulli-timbered, almost like a musical composition. TL was her
eves. Bright, radiant, imeen, Full of playful, unapologetic self-confidence.
In the weeks thal followed, [invented a series of exeuses lo ret to the
Kitya. | introduced mysel Mo ber, with as much composure as | could muster,
and on each further visit chatted to her a bit more. 1 told her about growing upin
Mishima Hasharan. about math and music, sbout Israel, amd how, as a soldier in
the past few years, I'd walked almost every inch of the land — in short, about
everything except our still-secret sayeret and our nighttime forays across the
border, She, too, opened up about her home and her family and her friends.
Though there was another girl Ud been goiug oul with — the younger sister of
my old kibbutz co-conspirator. Moshe — she was more a fiiend than a girlfriend.
I'd never before felt anything Hie the comection [ sensed with Nii, nor
anything like the race in my heartbeat ss | set oul 10 se her,
I also found myself gripped by an unexpected, and wofamiliar, lack of self
assurance. [ was now 23, three years older than Nili, | had the inbred confidence
of a kibbuumik, Ue quiet sense of species which, at lest for unother dove
ors0, would give the children of the kibbutzim a disproportionate place in
Israels government and army, media and the arts. The same confidence which
acl eonvineed mi as a raw reernil bisck m boot can that 1 could lead a supply
convoy 10 the edge of the Sinai. Since then, Pd begun to make a mark in Sayer
Matkal as well, leading its first clandestine operation and receiving a citation
from the chicf-of-staff. Yet with Nili, | couldn’t help feeling unmoored, totally
out of my depth. She was part of a different Isvacl. She was a 7el vivir, hom
and raised in the largest and brashest city in our young state, a place which was
everything the kibbutz was not. She ud graduated from Alliance. » high school
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iin north Tel Aviv sel up with Trench backing and an accent on Trench language
and eultuce. Unlike the gicls on the kibbutz — proud of their plain, utilitarian
clothes and sensible shoes she wore make-up and perfume and, when she was
ont of wi form, buight print dieses. She never nie io make me feel oul of place. Shill,
it was sometimes hard not fo wonder whether she saw mie 2s a country bumipkin —a
nice, interesting, bright county bumpkin, perhaps. but still an interloper or a curiosity in
Tier would
It wasn’t until April, the day before | was due lo leave for the French commando
fortress in Mont Louis, that I plucked up the courage to ask her out. [ needn't have
wormed, She smiled, In fet, she proposed that since | was about to leave the country,
she should be the oue doing the asking. She invited me 10 diner thal evening at
the apartment she shared with her paceats and younger sister, about a hal mile
from the kine, 4 few blocks back from the Mediterranen, Dinner was less.
awkward than 1 feared, but T still felt nervous, until the dishes were cleared and
Nili and T went out to chat on the apadment balcony aad. just before I Tell, lo
share a first kiss.
We wrole cach other ahmost every diy while [was away in Frames. Once (
got back, we met whenever | wasa’l preparing for a sayerel operation. ‘This was
the first girl 1'd known whom I could talk to. and listen to, on almost any
subject with a feeling that it was nutural and somehow meant to be. But in the
second halfol 1962, 1 was working almost non-stop on preparing for 3 sayerel
operation. T still saw Nili when T could. sometimes at her apartment, but also
occasionally going out to a movie, a meal ar a concert in Tel Aviv. Yet what |
sos! wanted wis an acknowledgment that we were not just dating: 3
commitment that we intended the relationship 10 last. T didn’t say this to Nill.
Years later, she would say this was down to pride. In fact, 1 was afraid she
would sity no. And in the periods when we were apart, [couldn't help asking
myself why she hadat caised the question of a deeper commitment.
Tiven more frustrating, by the time I entered Tlebrew University in
September 1965, onr relationship wis agam being conducted by mil. After her
military service, she took a two-year posting al our coibassy iu Paris. [ could
understand the attraction. not just because of her taste for all things French. She
was working with the Mossad ta help Moroccan Jews skirt an official
emigration ban and get fo Isracl. Still, it meant that charting our lure together,
if we had one, was going 10 have to wait.
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PE
The intellectual experience at university everything 1 hoped. The challenge
was finding a way to juggle my studies with my military reserve duty, In other
units, most reservists could schedule their one month per year when classes
weren't in session. To be of use to Sayeret Matkal, I'd have to report when [
was most needed, and four weeks was unlikely fo be enough. Near the end of
my fist Lec, from late 1965 into the new year. [ was called to pasticipaie in vue
latest mission into the Sinai. The next winter, and through early 1967, 1was
called up for another mission and was away for nearly two manths.
That operation was prompied by the fact the Fisyptiams had begim laying a
new communications cable, parallel to the one where we'd put our intercepts.
With the diggers petting closer to where 1'd led the first Sinai mission, the
Kirvee was worried thal they might wiearth the sppratus we'd installed. In
theory. at least, we'd planned for that. The bugging unit which we buried
included a booby-trap explosive device. Still, nearly four years on, we couldn't
be absolutely sure it would work. So The decision was laken lo send the suyerel
back oa a fucther aight crossiog into the Sinai, defuse the explosives. aod bring
the whole thing back to Israel. Since I was the one who'd installed it, T was
given the job of removing it.
1 he officer in overall command of the mission was Necheniia Cohen. te
was a good friend. and one of the finest officers in the unit. Before Tleft for
university, I'd mentored him so that he could tale over my role as the effective
number-two officer in the sayerel, in charge of ull our core operational
activities. Tle, 100, was now aboul to leave, though not 10 for university. Tle was
becoming depury commander of a paratroop company, under another former
Suyeret Matkul, named Yeehiel Amsulem.
1 was meant 0 defuse the booby-teap remotely: with a 12-foot-long metal
tool designed by the technology unit. Twas fairly confident I'd manage. But
when Chicol: Stall Rabin heard about the operation, he simmoned me, wong
with Eliezer Gon, the scientist working with us ou the phan to defuse the
booby-iap. Rabin was with a half-dozen other officers when we arrived. Gonn
haat brouzht along a mockeup of the explosive device, which he proceeded to
place an Rabin’s office table. But as | wok out the extension tool and stared to
explain how [ was going to defuse the device. Rabin tumed to Gona and asked:
“Conld iL. blow tp spontincously?”
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“Yes. iL could,” he said.
“What?” Rabin barked.
Conn replied marter-of-factly: “It is a physical device. [t obeys the laws of
physics, When, for instance, there’s a thunderstorm in Turkey, a flash of
lightning could discharge at precisely the frequency needed. or one of its lower
harmonies. with enough energy to activate the fuse in the detonator.”
1 was far junior to everyone else in the room, But as a physics student, 1 was
probably the valy one who could fully follow the argument he was making.
Looking: at Rabin’s expression, it was clear that he was about to cancel the
operation on the spot. “Excuse me, sir,” [ said. “Could I ask Doctor Gonn
another question?”
pointed al an unopened bolle of orange soda on Rabin’s desk. “Tell me.” T
asked the physicist, “is it passible that the fluid in that horle is spontaneously
lowing thromeh te wlass even as Pm speaking?”
“Succ,” Gono said. “Iu might lake years before even a fraction of a centimeter
of the soda goes missing. Bur glass is like a “frozen” liquid, and liquid water, or
the molecules, are seeping info, and through, the more viscans “liquid” of the
glass. U3 just physics.”
Rabin looked at me, then at Gonn. Bur he had clearly pot the message. “The
operation is confirmed,” he said, in the deen, gravelly voice | would become
such nore Familiar with in the years uhead. “Good luck”
The device didn’t explode. but I couldn't defuse ir either. I did manage to get
the remote metal tool locked on the bolt on the booby trap. But it wouldn't
budge — even when | waved back Nechamia and the others and tok oul au
ordinary wrench. Though this was the first of my sayeret missions that ended in
failure, that wasn’t what worried me as we boarded our helicopter back into
Israel a couple of hours before dawn, 1t was the real possibility that the
Eeyptians would inadvertently discover that we'd been intercepting their
communications. Dovik Tamari. as sayeret commander, was especially upset.
This was one of the last operations during his period in conmmand of the unit. He
was about to hand over to a veteran paratroop officer, Uzi Yairi.
Yet our aborted Sinai mission turned our not to mater. What saved our
eavesdropping network was the very thing which 1 was confident would not
happen when 1 left for university: another Arab-Israeli war.
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CE
Tension began building in the north in the spring of 1967, initially set off by
Syrian efforts w divert water from the upper reaches of the Jordan River, an
important water source for Israel was well. In a series of exchanges. Syrian
oops on the Golan fired on Ismchi tractors in the demilitarized zone below, ind
began shelling vue angiculiual settlements in the Galilee, while we responded
with tank fire and then air power, scrambling our jets and shooting down six
Syrian MiG-21s.
The first indication that we might. be headed toward war came us [retuned
to university for the spring term, and trouble began brewing in the south. Ben-
Gurian had by now retired us prime minister, His successor wus the undeniably
thoughtful, it fir less chirismatic, |ovi Eshkol. During lsnaels Independence
Dey parade on May 15, he toceived word that Egypt had moved thousands of
troops into the Sinai. nearer to the border with Israel. Then, with the Soviets
warned Nise of what they said were Ismch plans for u preamplive sirike
against Sytia, he went futher expelling the United Nations force put in place
after the 1956 war. On May 23, he closed the Straits of Tiran, Israel's trading
wleway 10 Ihe Red Se und the source of vivlnally all onr il fmpons.
1 was told 10 report 1 Sayeret Matkal the following day. as pant of the first
aroup of reservists called up. When I reached the base, Uzi Yairi, who was now
in charge of the unit, arganized us into four teams, He put me in commind of
anc of them. We were told 10 propre ourselves Lo helicopter into the Sing,
attack a series of Egyptian air bases and put the runways out of commission. My
team’s target was the base at Gebel Libui, not far from where I'd placed, and
secently Failed to defuse, our fins intelligence fntereepl.
With cach passing day, war looked more likely, and there was no confidence
we would win without a costly struggle. Tn 1948, Arab attacks had killed about
170 peapke in Tel Aviv. Now, word go out thal a park m fhe center of the cily
Tiad been set aside wo allow for the burial of as many as 5,000. With Israel's
‘military commanders pressing Tshiol to take the initiative and launch a
preemptive strike, he delivered a radio address at the end of May. intended to
reassure the country the situation was under conwol. But duc w last-minute,
handwritten changes to his typescript. be faltered while reading it. He sounded
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anything but under control. Within days, he bowed to political pressure and
brought back Moshe Dayan, now a member of the Knesset, as Defense Minister
1 still vividly remember a visitor to the sayeret the day after Fshkol's
address. Colonel Kli Zein was head of the “collection department of the
intelligence coups, the rough equivalent of America’s National Sceurity Agency.
Formally, Sayeret Matkal was part of his deparament. He called together all the
officers, He suid that there had so far been three periods in the Zionist project
The first was from the carly setlements in Palestine at the end of the 19th
century until the establishment of Israel in 1948. The second, from 1948 until
the 1956 War, The tried from 1956 until naw. Then he suid: “There will soon he
wwar. Three Arab counties will tke part. Within a week, we will defeat all of
them. And anew chapter in the history of Zionism will begin”
The Six-Day War begun on June 3, 1967, As Eli Zeira so confidently
predicted, not just Egypt and Syria. bu Jordan, too, joined forees agmst ns.
And il was indeed all over within a week. The final outcome — Israel's vietory —
was sealed by noon an fhe first day, with wave atter wave of pre-emptive
bombing surfics destroying the entire wir fore of all thse Arab countries. But
the fighting which followed was brutal in places: especially around Jerusalem,
but also in the south at the outset of the war, and later on the Golan Heights.
The first effect back in Israel of aur air farce attacks was to make our sayeret
helicopter missions into the Sai suddenly superfTuous. In fact i lef the entire
aie at loose ends — especially veterans of reservists like me who had been parc
of our nearly decade-long development into Iseael’s sole, dedicated cross-border
inflation force. Al his point, we were still just im miclligence unl, nol an
elite commando force like Briwin’s SAS. Avraham Aranan’s ultimate vision for
the sayeret, The aim of our bugging missions into Syria and Fgypt was aot to
fuzht. 11 was 10 gel m andl get onl, unseen and ideiceted. Bul we were nol only
equipped 1 light if necessary. From the unit's cadlicst days under he sway of
Meir Har-Zion, Kapusta and Gibli and Errol and the other grizzled vets from
Unit 101 snd Company A. we had been stceped m the spit of commandos, Our
training was the most rigorous in the Iscacli amicd forces, involving not just a
punishing endurance régime but learning to assemble and disassemble, fire and
detonate, everything from handguns to machine guns, makeshift explosives to
arenades and landmines.
The [rustration we felt on the first morning of the war was nol because we
were tiehmg fo fight, for the hell of i. One hallmark of the suyerers ethos,
especially onee the unit did start to evolve into a full-fledged commando ait,
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wes always the principle of tacgeted force, Lhe idea that we would take ou
targets, or defeat enemies, out of military necessity. But even on the fst day of
the war, it was clear that it would be by far the most consequential conflict in
aus countrys histary. There was no mission for Sayerel Marka, nor, it seemed,
any prospect of vu playing any significant pact.
The fact that my own role was slightly less peripheral was due to Avraham
Aman. He phoned me almost as soon as we'd got news of the Israeli air victory,
and 101d me he had been thd 10 lake a few men from the sayerel across the
southern border. Our assignment was to complete our failed attempt ta defuse
the booby-trap an the mtereept in the Sinai, 1 quickly drafied m two others from
the unit. One was Danny Michiclson, a Griend Grom Hebrew University, where
we had been lab periners. The other was Rafi Friedman. our paramedic, who
had been with me on several of our missions on the Galan,
Avualugma arrived a the base around noon. got i Jeep sd we set off. We
crossed into Leypt around four o'clock in the aflcraoon and headed for the ficld
headquarters of [srael Tal. Known as Talik, he was the commander of Israel's
wmared comps, and Avraham knew him well. His wirime division consisted of
the coniry’s premier tank unit, the Seventh Armored Brigade, and a reserve
brigade. We accompanied them the next day to an abandoned Egyptian camp
not fur from FI Arish, in the northern Sinai, At least, we'd assumed it wis
uhandoned. As Talik and Avraham were talkivg in his command post, we heard a
sudden burst of gunfire. which seemed to come from just a few dozen yards
outside, As everyone inside the command post looked around, Avraham tumed
10 mic and said: “Ehud, don’t you think we ought to deal with #177 Then, to
Talik: “Make sure none of your guys shoots him.”
1 got Danny and Raf]. We made our way toward an underground bunker,
which seemed the most likely source of the gunfire. Hugging the wall as | led
the way down a series of concrete steps, | clicked off the safety on my Uzi just
in case. But with the main Fggyptian forces in obvious retreat. | figured that
whoever was dog the shooting wonld hive ta be shellshocked, or insmely
brave, put up a fight. There were eight men crouched inside, soldiers and
several stall officers cradling Kalashaikovs. and an Tgyptian army general. Tn
what wits obviously at least serviceable Arabic, [told them all to rase ther
Tiands, | made a brie attempt lo interrogate the general, but quickly reached the
limits of my linguistic proficiency. So we marched them away and handed them
over to Talik’s intelligence officers
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This interlude instantly confersed on us the desert equivalent of street ered
The next morning, Talik agreed we could accompany the Seventh Brigade as it
moved deeper into the Sin, and peel off when we got closer to Gebel 1.ibni to
complete aur “ayes mission.” Given the early course of the Fighling, and our
forces” rapid advances in the Sinai, [ couldn't help wondering whether there
was any real need to defuse. much less remove, the bugging machinery. Bur che
very fact that the Kirva, in the carly hours uf the war. had still wanted us to try
wes a efleetion of the deep sense of apprehension in (sacl in the weeks before
the war, Even now, it appeared, there was a concem that the Egyptians might
recliim the parts of the Sinai which we had captured.
When the armored column got close to Gebel Libni, {pulled our Jeep aside
and headed for the streich of communications cable where we'd planted the
intercept. For several hours, tried to accomplish in broad daylight what I'd
failed to do in the desert darkness four months earlier. But it was 00 use. T
finally told Avizham we'd be betlec off just blowing it up. T attached an
explosive charge and set a two-minute delay. We watched from a couple of
hundred yards way as the whole assembly dismicumied. Then we rejoined the
Seventh Brigade
Before sunset on the third day of the war, we reached the Egyptian air base
af Bir Gufigata in the heart of the Sina, Even had the war ended then, we would
have been in control of a kuge cual of the desert butler zone which Bea
Gurion hiad hoped 10 retain aller the 1956 war. Buc now, more quickly than even
the most optimistic planners in the kirva could have anticipated, Talk was
poised 0 move on — werd the Suez Canal, and the main Towns and cities of
Egypl. As the Seventh Brigade billeted down in Bir Galgak, Talik sent his
reserve brigade westward, in the direction of the canal
We went with hem. The bata hon was more manic thin a pore nk fore,
but also more vulnerable: lightly armored Lrench AMX-13s and a collection of
the halfiracks which [ dimly, unfondly. remembered from my irons. A few of
the AMX led the way, then a line of hylfinucks, and more tanks at the rear, |
nosed our Jeep into the middle, behind the battalion commander, a lieutenant
colonel named Ze'es Titan. There were scattered groups of Tgyptian soldiers on
either side of us, and they aimed un occasional burst of fire in our direction. But
there seemed little point in shooting back. We didn't need to fight, snd it was
clear that the Tgyptians didn’t really wan to.
Shortly before dirk, 1iculenani-Colonel Extn brought our colin to hall.
The road we were on cut thiough tall sanduncs on cither side. We know there
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were still Egyptian soldiers around us. though [ doubt auy of us expected
wouble. Still, there were well-established rules for selling up a defensible
position when an armored force halts for the night, As Fitan briefed his officers,
[stood a fow feet off to the side und hsiened. Suddenly, the commander of his
AMX company interrupted. “Sic,” be said, “why ase we staying here — right on
the main road? There are Egyptians still ou there. Behind us, for sure. And any
force ahead of us will run stcaight into us. Why not a few hundred yards off to
the side, in a place that gives us a view of any crienty movement, or allows us to
ambush an approaching force?” [ could see that he was right. 1 expected Fitan to
agree and alter the arrangements. But he didn’t. 1 think that, having ordered his
wen Lo encamp on the road 20 minwes earlier, he was reluctant w gel his lanks
and halftracks moving again. No doubt, some of the exhausted crews were
already asleep.
1 parked oue Jeep a Few yards off the coud. We organized a series of watches:
Avsaliam, then Rafi and Denny, with me taking the pre-dawn stretch. A low
hours later. Rafi nudged me awake. “I heard something,” he said. pointing west
toward the Suez Canal. “11 was fami. But 1 think so.” old him 10 keep
listening. lio a while, everything seemed fine. Then, Dany woke me up. Tle
said he was sure he heard a faint emer. as if from tanks or APCs. I pur my ear
10 the ground. 1 beard i1 100. 1 wkd lim 10 go 10 Kitn’s command halfirack,
nist bie be woken up, and tell him. When he got back, Danny said: “1 told
him™
“And?”
“Don’t know,” he replied. “He said [contd go. ried lo grab a bit more
sleep before my watch. But barely 15 minutes later, Danny jostled me awake
again, “I'm sure now,” he said, “Whatever it is, it’s closer.” [ went oft ta find
Filan. But before 1 gol there, i eolumm of Egypuim 1-55 lanks suddenly
appeared on te road. 50 yards from the (ront of our column. hi sure they were
every bit as surprised as we were to be face-to-face with enemy armor, But they
knew what fo do. They opened fire.
Hid we been deployed a few hundred yids fF the road, we'd have seen
them coming. If the batalion commander had acted on Danny's warning, we'd
have had an extr, 20 minutes to prepare, But the shells jolted our crews awake,
Within 30 seconds, they were returning fire. But our tanks harcly dented the
heavily armored T- 555. Nearly every one of theirs seemed to score a direct hit.
Witkin minules, i nimber of ou hid racks, and one of our mks, were in
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Now thal we were in a fight -the single fiercest bate in Tscacl's advance
across the Sinai — Liculenani-Colonel Gitan reacted swiftly. Standing tal anid the
hellfire and the flames, he radioed for supporting fire, only 10 be told that none of
ous artillery bitlerics was within range. Realizing we conldi’ penctrate the
front armor of the Egyptian tanks, be ordered a platoon front the rear to leave
the road and fire on the Tgyptians” from their flank. When one T-55 was hit and
started w burn, hie ordered the rest of us to collet the dead and wounded and
seta toward Bir Galea
As we pulled back, we encountered a company of Centurion tanks from the
Seventh Brigade, sent in fo relieve us, We pulled off the road to let them pass.
The biti cuded up vaging for another hour. By the time it was over, the
Eeyplian tank unit was nearly destroyed. Bul almost two dozen of Citan’s
reservists had been Killed. A few days later, | learned that the commander of the
Centurions had also been killed. Tis name was Shamai Kaplan. Though T didn't
Law him personally, he was niaried 16 one of my kibbuLe “sisters” from
Mishmar Iasharon.
PEE
The pace of the war, its miensity, und the transformative captive of fenitory
across our 1948 borders had seeclerated dramatically sine we'd joined the
reserve battalion's ill-fated advance toward the canal. Back at Bir Gafgala, we
leamed that [sraeli troops had broken through in fierce fihting with the
Jordanians and taken the whole of cost Jerusalem, including the O1d City and
the site of the remains of the ancient temple. The news seal & shiver down my
spine. 1 was still only 25, a kibbutznik raised on the assertively secular creed of
Gord Zawmsm. But 1 was old enough to remember tie war of 1948, the
bitter struggle for the ancient city in which Judaism had been born, the packages
of food we had sent to try to help break the siege there, and the division of
Jermsalemn au he end of the war, leaving ws with only 1s newer, westers hall,
And while [ may not have read the Torah in the same way as a religiously
observant Jew, the meaning of Jerusalem was no less powerful for me. It was
part of our peaple’s history, of wha we were, where we’d came from and how
wee had ended up in the place where 1°d been bora, where 1d grown up, and
which I'd spent the early part of my adult life defending. This was no less true
of the nblical sues of Judaca and Samaria the West Bank of the Jordun river,
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Places like Bet Ti, Shiloh, or Tebron. They represented the historic wellspeing
not just of the state we'd created, but of Jewish civilization, our heritage, our
moral and ethical foundation, As [ drove buck to Tel Aviv with Avraham and
the others on the moming of fourth day of the war, we head Iseach ground
forces were consolidating thew hold there as well.
After dropping Avraham at the kirya, we drove back to the sayeret base, but
it was nearly empty. The main fighting was now with Syrian srmared units on
the Golan Heights, and most of the meu in the unit had gone north iu the hope
of joining what seemed likely to be the final stage of the war. Although the
precise outcome wits not yet clear, there was 1 dawning certamty, almost
wrseal, Ut
Israel was gaining control of all the avcas across our 1948 borders from
which the Arab states around us had shelled Israeli farming settlements, ar
Tacilitated fedayeen attacks and ambushes aginst our citizens the very border
areas where I'd led intelligence operations in Sayerct Matkal
1, too, drove north, Not far from Kibbutz Dan, the stagmy point for our first
Golin operatian, 1 inked up with a group of other sayeret reservists, Tstaeh
tanks had already broken the main resistance of the Syrians, bul fighting was
continuing in a few parts of the Golan. In the western corner of the Heights
which bardered | ehanon, several villages still lay bevond the Israeli udvance.
We gan an order 1 soe 1 we could fike them. [1 took barely wn hour, against no
nore resistance than I'd met in “capruring™ the Egyptians in the Sinai bunker.
By the time we had made our way buck across the Golan to the now-abandoned
Syrian beadquaricrs in Quncitry, i1 wis sunset. The war was drawing los close.
1 save my Jeep to a couple of paratroopers and hot-wired a more comfortable
mode of wansport back home: a big, black Mercedes which had obviously
belonged to a semior Syman officer. If only becanse of the license plates, |
avoided the main road back into Israel. T found a dirt track running between
Syrian positions on the southern edge of the Golan and descended toward the
fruit groves of Kibbutz Ha'on, near the Sea of Galilee, 1 then headed for
Givataim in nocth Tel Aviv, 10 a place Tkoew well. Tt was the home of
Menachem Digli. He had been Avraham Aman's deputy in the sayeret when [
left far my stint in officers” school, Before | returned ta the unit, he hada
motorcycle accident, badly damsging his lee. He'd been temporarily reassigned
toa post in intelligence. 1 figured a Syrian Mercedes would make a nice gift
Not wamtms fo swale im, [le a1 in font of his house. Sadly, he never got 1o
use it. The next day a couple of military policemen knocked on his door and
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asked what he knew about the car outside. “Nothing.” he said. “It's not mince.”
They took it away.
As insistently as [, and others in Sayeret Matkal, had wanted to play our part
on the battlefields of the Six-Day War in the Sma, on the Golan, in the bitter
battle 0 capture Jerusalem, or amid the olive-green hills and valleys of the West
Bank we had to accept thar, at most. we'd been freelance support troops. Or
mere spectators. But while it would be many years before this was openly
acknowedled, we did play an important part in the uucome, Because Dayan
had been called back as Defense Minister oaly days before the war. he had
wisely decided not to alter the pln for fhe preemptive air strikes. But he did
adjust onr ground advance. Just us with EshkoPs knowledge of the initial
Eeyplian advance in the Sinai before the war, Dayan's judgements were
informed by detailed, real-time intelligence on where enemy tanks and troops
were located, what they were doing, and what how and when they were
planning to advance.
As speculation mounted after the war about how Israel seemed to know so
much the Arab forces, Meir Amil’s successor ws Head of Military Intelligence,
Allie Yariv. even engaged in some misdirection. 11 was anxious 1 avoid
jeopardizing future sayeres bugging: operations. In a speech on how the war had
been won, he included 1 reference to a “high-rankimie spy” in the Fgyptian army
who, he inpliod, liad leaked critical information. The “spy” wes the series of
intercepts we'd attached to the Tgyptians” main military communications
network in the Sinai, and ta the telephone poles on the Goin Heights.
On a deeply personal level, Too, the war lof its mark on Sayerel Matkal.
Though che fighting had been brief. people did die. Thousands of Ceyptians.
Syrians and Jordanians. And about 650 Israelis. Some of were not just people
we knew. They included close frends. Keehemia Coben, the officer 1d joined m
ous Tailed atiempt to defuse the booby-teap in the Sinai before the war, entered.
Gaza on the first day in his new role as deputy commander of Amsalem’s
puratroon unit. Amsaken was killed carly on, so Nechemia took command, He
wees shot and killed ifleen minutes later. To this day. he and [share the
distinction of being the most decorated soldiers in Israel's history. Tlad he lived.
have no doubt that it s an honor he would have held alone.
This wis the first close friend from the mit we'd lost. We did not moun him
opealy. For young soldiers of my generation, especially but not only those raised
with the additional kibbutz ethos of stolid self-conirol, there was sn embedded
sense that such individual displays of emotion were an indulgence. and lusury
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even, which the country we were building could not afford. Tn the carly years of
the state, the model [srael mother or father were those who stood silent and strong
as a saldier’s coffin was lowered into the ground,
Nechermia®s death hut, of couse. | was friends not just with him, but his older
brother, Eliczer. Known by his army vickname, Cheetah, he was in charge of the
air forces main helicopter squadron. He had tlewn both me and Nechemia on
saverel missions into the Sinai. Several days afer the war was over, before
seturming Ww university, | drove up 10 Jerusalen to see his family. Cheeta was at
the door when [ arrived. Neither of us spoke. But as we embraced. I could teel
my eves dampen, and there were tears in his eyes as well
“Our squadron was the one hist got the call 10 bring out the casualies.” he
said. “They ordered the pilot who brought out Nechemia not to tell me he was
dead... until the war was over.”
“He was a wonderful man.” 1 suid. ““I'here was no one better.”
«ss
When I returned to Hebrew University, the countivy felt completely different.
It was not just the sudden realization that, in military terms. Israel had
eliminated any reuistic this lo is exasicnee, nportnt thongh thi was. The
more profound change was physical. The country in which I'd grown up was a
place which felt not just small, but pinched. especially in its “narrow waist” near
Mishmar Hasharan, Pre-1967 Israel was about three-quarters the size of the
stale of New Hampshire. Now, within tlie space of less than a week, the
territory Israel controlled had more than wipled. It included the whole Sinai
Desert, up to the ede of the Suez Canal. The entire Golan. The ancient lands of
Judacis and Sumarie: the West Bink, And the reunited capital city of Jerusalem.
Suddenly, we had a seose that we could breathe. Wander, exploce. Tew of
ny classmates were religiously observant. But none of us could help feel the
sense of connection us we walked Uromgh the Old City of Jenusakem, or parts of
ihe West Bank whose place-names resonated from the Bible. I felt especially
moved when I first visited the Old City with my friends, stopping and chatting
and buying things at the colorful market stalls, And, religious ar not, when |
stood in front of the surviving Western Wall of the ancient Jewish temple.
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The personal Interactions we had with Palestinians in the weeks aller the war
were without obvious tension, much less hostility. They were ofien friendly.
T.ookiny back, Pm sure that was ane reason along with simple human nature,
desire 10 enjoy Jsmael’s new sense of hoth seenrity and size hat none of us
wes inlined to look toa deeply, or 100 far ahead. and contemplate the
implications for our counry’s future. I was aware. of course. that the politeness
we exchanged will the Palestinians of Jerusalem or the West Bank were
superficial” a (ow words across a market stall or & rostausant counter. | did not
pretend to myself that our Arab neighbors were now suddenly inclined fo be our
friends.
But 1 did fel that, having come fice-to-face with ow overs helsing military
supremacy, the Arab states would, over Lime, grant Tscael simple acceptance.
From there, 1 helieved that we could begin the process of building genuine,
Tasting, human relationships and. eventually, peace.
1 here was a brief period alter the war when Lshkol cautioned his ministers
about the implications of holding on to the vast new area we had conquered.
The government formally agreed to treat most of it, with the exception of
Jerusalenu, as & “deposit” 10 be traded for the opening uf peace talks. Yet within
weeks, the emphasis in the Israeli political debate shifted to which parts we
would keup: the Sman and the Golan almost certainly. as well as the Jordan
Valley aud a number of areas of past Jewish settkement on the West Bank. The
drift away from any serious talk of trading land for peace was accelerated by the
Arab states” response 10 the war. Perhaps that, two, was simply a mater of
human nature, a reluctence on their part to accept defiat. Bu they appeared no
more ready than before to contemplate peace. Throughout the summer. there
were clashes along our new “border” with Egypt: the Suez Canal. In Septertber,
all the Arh states aopied t plaiform which became known a the “tne no's”
They rejected not just the idea of peace, but peace talks, of recogaition of the
Stare of Israel. And in October, Egyptian missile boats attacked and sunk Israel's
ingest warship, the destroyer Eilat, killing nearly 50 peaple on hoard.
Without this reviewed violence, petiaps. we in Issel might have beet able to
consider more deeply the future implications of our victory in the Six-Day War.
The gains on the battlefield, of conmse, were ele fo everyone. We were na
louger a small, consiricicd country beset by a sense of vulnerability. We were
not only much bigger. but also stronger than the combined asmies of the Arab
states. Still, very few people asked themselves at the time what find of (srael
this implied. We failed to grasp the potential complications in holding on to all
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the land. and of controlling the daily lives, however beaiguly. of the bundreds of
thousands of Arabs who lived there. Nor, crucially, did we poader the
limitations of military strength, alone, in addressing these questions, We and 1,
fo, #1 the Time — were 06 canghl up in 1 sense of post-war velicl, celebration
and, as the months oF ostensible normalcy in this new Jseacl, complacency as
well.
But within only a few years, we would fice a dramaticslly different series of
challenges. First, # campaign of Palestinian terror. hen, nother full-scale wer,
which began with a surprise attack by Arab armies which we had assumed
would not dare to fight us am,
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Chapter Seven
If you'd visited Tel Aviv in July 1967, vou would have sensed a new spirit
af confidence, mol cockiness exactly, bil a sort of spring in the collective sep.
This was nol just due 10 the Six-Day War. It was because the city, if nol yet the
test of the country. had shed the economic austerity of Israels first two decades
and was bginming lo experience ut least some of the consumer comforts which
Western Liurope, or America, wok foc granted. Bu we were still a decade away
fiom the first shopping malls, or the upscale cafés and restaurants which
nowadays jive places like Dizenpoff Street, a tew blocks back from the
seafront, the feel of London or Paris on a summer's day. Television had been
introduced only a year before the war. Color TV was still nearly a decade away.
Lcan’t say 1 was surprised fo learn. when the archives were opened a few years
ago, that a commitice of mera arbiters in our Ministry of Edueation vetoed
plans for the Beatles to perform in the city. “No intrinsic autistic value,” they
pronounced. “And their concerts provoke mass hysteria,”
Fen in Tel Aviv, and certainly the rest of Isruel, a kind of cultural austerity
still prevailed. an emphasis on modesty and self-restraint. Tt was a kegacy of
1948, a reflection of the years of shared sacrifice. physical labor. and the life-
and-dewth stongggkes which 1, like most Israchis al the lime, had experienced
within our own lifelimes. That may belp explain why | can cemember uo one
remarking on an aspect of my character which. once I rose to public
praminence, would attract attention, frequent comment. and sometimes
criticism as well: the fact that | scemed so self-contained, reluctant 10 cogage
emotionally with people beyond a circle of close friends or confidants. My lack
of smalltalk, and the kind of gladhanding and schmoozing that are the currency
of political fife. At the time of the 1967 war, | was not yet a public figure. Yet to
the extent those around me would have taken note — family, university
classmates, sayeret comrades, or officers in the kya my slight emotional
aloofness, my focus on simply getting things done, and the way 1 mtematized
setbacks, even tragedies like the death of Nechentia Cohen, was not exceptional.
Ir was, in many ways, simply Israeli.
Yet as Israel, Israeli society and my place in them changed, it would be
suggested Lo me more tan once — no always kindly, when it wag from eitics or
rivals — that T had a “touch of Aspbergers” in me. a reference to those on the
mare benign reaches of the afism spectrum wath a special ficility for mith,
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abstract ideas, the theoretical scicoces and, often, music as well. [would always
smile in response, suggesting thal sueh diagnoses were probably best lefl to the
professionals. 1 couldn't pretend, however, that emotional engagement with new
wequainianees, even wilh people 1 knew and liked but were not close friends,
was something that came naturally. And it is also true that from my fist
experience of the world of numbers as a child on the kibbutz. and as I tackled
ever more elaborate pices on he piano, [ did become aware of what might be
called the upside of “a Louch of Aspergers” — if that, indeed, is what it is. | was
conscious of the case with which my brain translared the complexities info
pictures in my mind. And the joy. at times, with which it allowed me to play
wound with, and develop, what | saw.
By the summer of 1967. Thad experienced that feeling again, in my ficst real
encotmter with theoretic physics at Hebrew University. After the Six-Day
War, T began seriously contemplating a future as a research scientist, of perhaps
eventually a professor of physics. Two months after the was, enrolled in a
sunimer program at the Weizmann Institute, Israel's preeminent postaraduace
sescarch fcility. Snrmounded by some of the comntry’s, even the world’s,
leading scientists, and by post-doctoral students determined to follow in their
footsteps, was intellecrually enthralling. But if turned out to have another effect
an me us well. As [lhonght mare and more shout the prospect of joining their
Traternity once I'd completed my undereraduate degree, 1 also beard them
describe the way in which pure science sometimes ot submerged in simple
rautine, or. more discouragingly, in the politics and positioning: and backbiting
of the academic world.
T think what finally changed my mind, however, was a feeling, nurtured on
the kibbutz but solidified by that many nights I'd spent leading saveret
aperstions seross our borders, that | would find my true propose in ite trying 10
make some special contribution to the future course of Israel. [did aot for a
moment contemplate politics at that point. Instead. I thought of going back inte
the military. | vealized tht in order wo make iw signi fiemt mark, iCindeed |
could, would require me to serve in the regular army, nol just an estaordinary
unit like Sayeret Matkal. But 1 did hope that. at some stage. I'd be given the
opportunity to finish my time in the sayeret as its commander. carrying on
Avralian’s vision and. ideally. building and expanding on it as well. AL least i
that part proved possible. T felt that, by comparison. a career in academia would
be somehow blinkered, and surely less fulfilling personally. My sayeret
experience had also taught me something else us well: that protecting Israel's
security was not just a matter of muscle, or firepower. indispensible though they
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sometime were. Tt called for meatal application, an ability to assess risks, to find
answers under enormous pressure when, inevitably. {hings went wrong. It
required not just brawn, but brains,
A week before | began my final year at Hebrew University, went fo see Ef
Zeira, the senivr intelligence officer who'd so brashly predicted the course of
the Six-Day War, in hopes of sounding out my prospects of picking up my
military career where Ud left off, Despite i vawnmg gap m rank and age Kli
was nearly fifleen years older — 1 felt | could be open with him. Not ouly did |
know him trom Saveret Matkal, which came under his purview in the kiya. He
was a Scientist mangué and was caer, as soon as | umived in his office, to hear
whout my physics studies. When [did masse wo tum the conversation to the
army, T wld him T was thinking of retucning afler T graduated. Yet before finally
deciding, [ wanted his honest opinion about my chances, at some point, of being
given command of the sayeret. ITe began with a series of caveats. The choice of
luture leaders of the sayerel was not be his to make. When the cucrent
commander, Uzi Yairi, ended his term in roughly 18 months” time, I'd still be
To young to have a realistic ehice. “Maybe even next ume around,” he said
And in any case, T would first need to pet some experience in the regular amy.
“But then.” he concluded, “my opinion is that you have a very good chance of
becoming communder of the unit” That was more than enough. 1 Figured that
whether il actually happened would now ultimately be down to me.
My last year at university was the closest thing T would have 1 a normal
student existence, [ was culled away only once, But it was for u battle which
would lum ou 10 have s kasting impact on the course of our conflict with the
Acabs, and on the prospects of eventually finding a way to make peace. Tt was
Israels largest military action since the war, across our new de ficto border with
Jordan. And it wars directed iti new enemy: a fledgling samy of Palestinian
[edayeen, called Fatah. Tt was led by a man that I. like almost all Tsraclis, had
never heard of at the time: Yasir Arafat. Born in Ceype, as a 19-year-old he had
Tonght sgainst. the establishment of Israel in the 1948 war. Although Fath had
nominally existed for nearly a decade, it was only now emerging as a political
force, in large part because of the Arab armies” humiliating defeat in the Six-
Day War. A Palestinian political leadership already existed, in the shape of the
Palestine Liberation Ograuization. But il was based in Cairo. 1s chairman was,
for all practical purposes, an adjunct of President Nasser's leadership role in the
Arab world. Though Arafat had not yet explicitly challenged this state of affairs.
his, and Futh’s, risc ufler the war carried a powerful, message for the existing
Arab presidents and prime ministers: their brash promises of victory before the
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1967 war had wend out to be hollow words. TL was time for a new generation,
and a new, more direct, form of confiontation with the “Zionist enemy.”
Aratut had set up camp with nearly @ thousand men just across the Jordan
River, in a fown cilled Kavameh. From carly 1968, they bid been launehing hit-
and-cun caids, not just on the West Bank but into the Negev. lishkol’s cabinet
was initially divided on whether to attack his base in Jordan, in bath an act of
retaliation and a signal to King Hussem tht of ns army didn’t rein in Arafiut’s
men, [sacl would take whatever action necessary. But the deeisive moment
came on the eighteenth of March. A school bus near Eilat, in the far south of
Israel, hit a Fath landmime, killing the driver and a teacher, and injuring 10 of
the children.
1 was called up the night before the Israeli attack, as part of a small Sayeret
Matkal contingent which was supposed fo play a suppart role, An enormaus,
pincer operation wits mounted sound the Fatah camp and Karameh itself:
including a full infancy brigade, the Seventh Armored Brigade and the
paratraapers” sayerer, But the resistance they met, both from Fatah and
Jordanian troops, was much ficreer than expected. One of the paratroop
commandos, Mookic Betzer, who would go un to join Sayeret Matkal, wid me
how they landed by helicopter and immediately came under a hail of AK-47
fire, Within mmutes, several of ns men had been kalled, Mookie was wounded
The tanks of the Seventh Brigade advanced from the south. Bailing the
Jordanian army, they took losses as well. Amnon Lipkin, who would also later
become a friend and colleague, in both the army and Israch politics, was in
command of a nil of lightly armored French tanks called AML. They, 100,
were hopelessly outgunned.
Our sayeret assignment was to block the southern entrance to Karameh as
the Israch armored fore advameed. Bul we got bogged down in mud as we
made our way from the Jordan River. By the time we arrived, hundreds of
Aratar’s men had already fled the area. Arafat, too, had escaped, on the back of a
motorcycle.
By the time the fighting was over, some wo buandsed Fatih fighters had been
killed. But nearly 30) Israeli soldiers lost their Lives as well, and more than twice
that number were wounded, Politically, the outcome was even mutkier, Most of
sacl was shill basking in one victory in the Six-Day Wea. Now, we bid
deployed many of the same units. only to fight to what looked like a costly
draw. Arafat and Fatah could claim — and soon did — thi they had stood md
fought, and inflicted losses on the victors of 1967.
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«ss
In retrospect, given all the interruptions, 1m a litle surprised that | managed
10 get through my university studics. My classmates helped. They were
incredibly generous in going through wich me what I'd missed, and sharing their
notes, whenever | relied for an extended stmt of reserve duty. ve seen
interviews wilh wiiversity fiicads saying | was one of the top students in our
class. But that is more generous than true. Tt would be fairer ta say [ was a good
student. Working hard in the final year, did finish in the upper quarter of the
chins, and several af my math and seicnee professors strongly urged mie Lo go on
to graduate school
But my mind was made up on returning to the anny. And as 1 balanced my
stucics with plans For the fue during my fred months, | still hadn't given up
hope that Nili would be there with me. When she returned liom Paris, we had
started seeing each other again. Whenever I could, I would take the bus down ta
Tel Aviv and spend the weekend wilh ber, Everything Pd loved ubout her since
that fivst meeting in the kirva, everything 1 valued in our celatianship, was still
there. Yet so. 00. were the doubts: whether she was ready to conic hetself ©
sharing our hves togethers and whether a kibbutz like me could ever truly i
in 10 her 7el Avivi world. Shortly before Karameh, she'd invited me to a Friday
night party with a group of her friends. It was the first time she was including
me, as part of a couple, in her social circle. But almost from the moment we gat
there, | felt out of place. For her, it was just another party, one of dozens she
must have been to since she was a teenager. But T immediately felt out of place.
[dida’r drink. 1 couldn't dance. 1 couldn't help feeling like a wallflower, or an
alien presence.
Now. T decided there was ao point in waiting aod wondering. T borrowed 2
Jeep from an army friend, with the idea that Nili and 1 could spend three or four
days together, diving south from Jerusalem fata the Negev ind the Judin
desert: 1 be alone, to talk, 10 see whether we actually had a future. T wrote her a
note. took the bus to Tel Aviv while she was at work, and dropped it through the
letterbox. “1 am going on this trip, inta the desert,” it said. “I'd love it if you
could come with me. | think it's important for us.”
1 never heard back. I fekt crushed. though I tried hard to tell myself it was
better to know where we stood. Years later. she told me the envelope had ended
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up under a pile of mail. She bada'L seen it until a week aflerwands. She said that
of course she would have come with me. She fel angry with herself, and with
me tag, for not simply having phoned. But since 1 didn’t contact her in the
weeks thal followed, she Figured Uns was just another ue of our fimes part. Or
“3upid pride”. A few mouths later, | heard she was engaged to he married, to a
young man she'd known since their high school days at the Alliance.
had first met Nava Cohen, the woman [would go on to many, the previous
year. IL was through another Cohen, though tiey were nol related: Neches,
my sayeret friend who was killed in the 1967 war. He invited me to Tel Aviv
far a party m the spring, on the Jewash holiday of Purim, and introduced us,
Nisa wies just uinctoen, five yours younger thn me. | wis struck siot just by the
fact she was aitcaciive, but by her poise, warm-heartedness, and her obvious
intelligence, But she had her boyfriend with her, and [ sull saw myself and Nili
as life partners. Now, she was beginning hee studies at Tebrew University as
well and. ina way, it was again Nechemia
Cohen who brought us together. Since his death. those of us who knew him
from the suyerct had been looking for a filling way to member and to honor
Rim. We finally decided Ww set up a living memorial in his name: a Moadon
Sayarim, a center fo train young peaple from all over Jerusalem in scouting and
mavigution, We spent six months grertmy it up und running, and Niwa pitched in
with the work.
Tt waso't until a few months alle T heard of Nili's engagement that T finally
asked her on a date. We were in the university library, which had a space where
you could lisien to apes through headphones. 1 would go 10 bear elassicsl
music. Nava was studying Tnglish literature. and I'd sometimes see her there,
engrossed in recordings of Shakespeare with the text of Hamlet or Macbeth in
front of her. Smee Uwasn’t shackled by the need to follow the alacks and
alasses. 1 ead the newspaper as the music washed over me. | tuned to the
movie section. | circled three films, drew a question mark in the margin and
passed it 1o her. She fooled puzzled for a seeond. Then she smiled and pat i
checkmark next lo oue of them.
While we came from different backgrounds, the gap was narrower than it
had been with Nili, Her parental home was in Tiberias, Her parents were from
ald Sephardi Gimilics, with a conturies-long history in Pakestine, and were also
salid Ben-Gurion Labor supporters. Iler father had fought in the British army in
the Sceond World Wir. He now vm the branch of Bank 1.cumi in Tiberias. Her
mother ran a shop in what was then the city's best hotel. the Ginton.
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We were married there, in the spring of 1969. My parents and brothers came
with two busloads of (viends from the Kibbutz. Aveaham Amman was there, of
course, But Ahraleh Yariv and Eli Zeira, two of the military intelligence heroes
of the Six-Day Wir, also drove up for the wedding, which touched both Nava
and me. not to mention her family and our guests. Years later, as | rose higher in
the ranks of the military, I would sometimes be invited to weddings by officers
wader my command. Remembering how much we appreciated Ahraleh's and Li
Zeira's gesture. | always said yes
Tt was only weeks aller our wedding that T formally returned to Sayerel
Matkal, Roth Nava and [ were aware of the additional pressures my military
commitments might plsce on our family Be. But she understood why I'd
chosen 10 go back, and was supportive. As for me, 1 was, if anything, more
certain that I'd made the right decision. Israel was clearly facing a whole new
set of challenges to its seeurily. Given the decisiveness, md speed, of our
vietoey in 1967, there seemed no immediate danger of Egypt's risking another
full-scale war. In Israel, where Golda Meir had become Prime Minister after
Eshikol’s death from i het attack, there wis also little appetite for selumme to
the bateficld. Yet the post-war skirmishes with the Lgyptians along the Suce
Canal had escalated into far more than that: what would become known as the
War of Attrition. Nor could there be any doub, after Karameh, that Fatah's
influcoee, militancy and determination would aly grow, not least because even
more radical factions within the PLO were ready to step into the breach if
Aratar falrered. Israel needed to find an answer for all these threats.
Uzi Yairi’s term as Suyeret Matkal commander had by now ended, bit his
successor was someone knew well. Menachem Digli was the oflicer on whom
I'd bestowed my stolen Syrian Mercedes at the end of the war. [lis leg was now
recovered from the motorceyels accident, and | vetumed To the sayeret al bis
deputy. Ie delegated full responsibility to me for operational issues. 1 believed
that the new kind of challenges we were confronting, particularly the prospect
of intensified amacks from the new generation of Palestinian fedavecn, meant
that the sayeret would sooner or later have to broaden its reach, moving beyond
the kind of intelligence operations we'd done before the 1967 war to become
the SAS-like special forces mil Avram ullinucly envisaged. But thal was not
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going to happen soon, if only because the intelligence missions now required
were guing to bea lot tougher. Tscael now had control of the <atire Sinai and the
Golan, To tap inta enemy communications, we would have to push deeper
inside Keypt und Syria.
Soon after my relum, we began planing the sayerel's most ambitious
mission so tar: targeting the main communications system berween Suez City,
at the southern end of the canal, and Egyptian military headquarters m Cairo.
We were obviously going 1 have Lo go in by helicopter, But we Giced not just
the risk of being spotted on the way in. The buildup of Egyptian forces along,
the canl now included Soviet-made anti-uireraft missile butteries, We might
cusily got shot down
The mission stcuck the penerals in the kivya as so risky as to border on the
insane, But 1 was confident that we could make it work. [ began talking to the
Tew senior air foree officers whe seemed more reeephive, as well as lo officers
iin the helicopter units. Not only had I flown into the Sinai on carlicr missions. 1
now also had a physics degree. Together. we developed a plan using the desert
termain, and driwing on the heheopters” muncoverability to ealeulatc w flight
soute that could avoid detection by Lgyptian radar. As an xia fail-sale, |
proposed using three helicopters, and three saveret teams. Two would fly
sliuhtly higher, with the express iim of wetting spotted, but still cvadmu missile
fire. They would land far away from the seal tavget of the operation. The main
team. with me in command, would also stage a pair of diversionary attacks:
planting explosives on a high-voltage electricaty cable, and on the main ml
pipeline from Suez. City 10 Cairo.
Still, for many weeks, the answer from the Aira was no. The man who had
succeeded Rabin as chief-ot-statf atter the war, Chaim Bar-Lev, dismissed it as
“ua pln brill om chicken legs.” In the und, whi got us fhe green light was i
further escalation, on both sides, in the War of Attrition. In January 1970, Isracli
warplanes bean a series of deep-penetration bombing: raids, far the first time
striking largets dozens of miles, in some case hundreds of miles, back from the
canal. The Iseacli bombing campaign reduced the chance we'd get shot down and
provided cover for our operation.
Our helicopters took off after sunset, nearly skimming the water and peeling
off in sepaate directions on the far shore. The other two aircraft headed 120
miles to the south. [ led the main team of ten men. We set down a few miles
south of the rou fram Suey City 10 Cairo. We unloaded i pane of Jeeps, drove
off, and within an hour had placed ouc time-delay explosives on the electricity
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tower and the pipeline. Bul when we reached the site of the underground
communications cable, the mission literally ran into the ground. We dug for
more than two hours, but still hadn't found the cable, and our mail-order metal
detector siubbomty refused lo ching oul any sign of il.
Just when 1'd decided w call the helicopter back in to get us, it finally
peeped a taint signal. 1 still wasn't convinced, but as we manipulated it back and
forth, it got lauder. SHI, my instinet was to abort, We'd pluced the explosives
ant the electricity tower aud the pipeline. That would at least diver! aucution
from our real mission, which meant we could return in a few months and have
another attempt, After all, the part of the operation that bud been causing the
ost concern in the kirya — our ability 10 gel deep inside Bgypt detected —
had succeeded. We were nearly three hours behind schedule. Unless we worked
a lat more quickly than planned, by the time we installed the communications
intercept and covered our tracks, it would be daybreak.
Digli and several other sayeret officers were following the mission from
their command post in the Sinai. part of the intelligence base our military
engincens had built wher the win into a 2,400-focl-high momtain ealled Gebel
Uni-Haghiba, 20 miles back from the Suez Canal. When [radioed in to well him
I'd decided to abandon the operation, 1 could hear the surprise in his voice, and
what seemed reluctance as well, “IF that’s your judgement...” he said. Bot
bot {could ply that, yes, | felt withdrawal was the wisest course, | beard
him speaking to someone whose voice [ also recognized: Avsha Toran. Ile was
the soldier on guard duty in the command post far our first mtercept operation
in the Sinai, the one who'd 1old me of how Rabin was cham-smoking und biling
his nails when it appeared we might be in touble. Now, he was a sayeret
officer. Digli came back on the radio. “We can see more from here,” he said.
Then, psusing, he udded: “Avsha says be thinks you cin still do it”
1 had grown wo respect Avsha’s judgement. And while Digli hadn't explained
what “more” they saw from the command post, | assumed that, since they were
also followin the other helicopter leas funher south, they were concemed
that the Ligyptians had ligured out at least that Lsvacli units were involved. Both
he and I'knew that it ultimately had to be my call. Whatever happened. I'd be
responsible. Yet | realized that discussing it further would change nothing, and
time was now whal matiered most. “We'll do it” | wld him, and signed off:
We'd planned [or the cable work wo take something like five hours, which T
Kaew we couldn’ afford. With all of us pitching in, swe drenching ous
“Lpyptian” uniforms, we managed to Cnish in slightly less than four. But we
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were still behind schedule. Daw was 25 minutes away. T cadioed the helicopter
pilot with a new pickup pon, closer to where we'd installed the equipment
though still far enough, | hoped, to avoid ving away what we'd done. Still, we
burely made 1. The stm was rising ss the chopper began weaving among the
dunes and wadis on the light back 10 [srel. Looking back, we could set flames
leaping up from the ail pipeline in the dim. dawn light
There could be no doubt the prize was worth it, By the time we retumed, the
receiving equipment a Un-Hashibe was. for the first time, picking up seal-lime
communications at the highest level of the Egyptian military. Wich the War of
Attrition showing every sum of getting even fiercer, it was a eriticial
intelligence advantage. When we landed. not ouly igh, but Alle Yariv were
there to meet us. Digli, smiling broadly. handed me a small cloth insignia.
“You've med it,” he said, adding that Rar] ev himself had endorsed my
promotion from captain 1o major.
PEE
With the Cairo-Suez mission, and a series of vier operations helped run
nearer to the canal, there now seemed every possibility that | wauld be chosen
to succeed Digli as commander when his term expired. But that was still more
than a year sway, in the spring of 1971. With his agreement, 1 decided to use the
time to do what li Zeira had advised me before T made my decision t return:
to get experience in the regular army. The War of Attetion had ereated a
demend for qualificd officers who could command funk unis, since they were
playing a key role against the Cayplians along the canal. Along with about a
dozen other middle-ranking officers whe had volunteered to move into the
mare cons, | embarked on 1 course covering every facet of lank warlre:
how each system on aa individual tak worked. how to pilot one, load in the
shells, and then calibrate ifs main gun. aim and fire. We smdied
communications profocols, even tink mamicnamee. We were taught how to
command an armored platoon — a group of three tanks — and then an armored
company of eleven tanks and APCs. Finally. in July 1970, we were given
command of actual companies, with the aim of deploying us against the
Ligyplians.
My company was part of Brigade 401, in the Sinai. It was one of the several
armored forces Liat were votated. every three months, into action on the front
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line. Tn a stroke of good fortune, the brigade commander was Dovik Tamar,
Avraham Arnan’s (ist successor as commander of the sayerel. While we waited
our forward deployment, due in September, he included me in his discussions
with his senior officers on lacties und plang, “This inevitably included the
care of our existing strategy: a line of fixed fortifications which we had built on
our side of the canal after the war. They were known as the Bar-Lev Line,
because the chief of stall ultimately had 10 sign off va them. But the main
impetus liad eome from Avraham Ada. A former Palmachnik, known as Bren,
he was the overall head of the armored comps.
There were strong critics of the Bar-Lev line, bur few more vocal than Arik
Shavon. The very qualitics that ad made him the porfoct choice 10 lead Unit
101 and its successor commando units — a naval instinct wo favor bold,
preemptive attacks, allied with an absolute confidence in his own judgment and
Title time for those wh challenged it — had stalled bis rise up the military
ladder for a few years. But now he was head of Israel's southern command. le
was convinced that in the event of another full-scale war with Tpypt. the Bar-
Lev line would be worse tim nscless. We'd find ourselves forced lo defend a
string of fortifications that could serve no real purpose in repelling a concerted
Egyptian attempt to retake the Sinai. Arik’s preferred strategy was to let the
Fuyplian froops cross the canal and then confront them on terms where Issel
forces had a proven advantage: a mobile bale in the open desert
When the debate came up in our brigade strategy discussions, said T
believed Ank was right, From aur recent siyeret missions, 1 said there was no
way the Bar-Lev fortifications coulel protcet us. 1 knew how casy it bad bien for
us 1 operate unseen between Tigyplian positions across the canal, and they were
only a tev hundred yards apart. On some parts of the Bar-Lev line, there were
six or seven miles helween onlposts. A whole Egyptisn brigade conld pass
theough
Very few in tae firya, however, seemed ready to recalibrate our strategy
against the Kyplians, Only later, when the damage had already been done,
would it become clear that the navy was alone in acting on lessous learned from
the fighting since the 1967 war. Tlaving lost its largest warship to a more mobile
Firyptian missile boat at the outset of the War of Attrition, 1t hegan focusing on
doplaying mobile missile boats of its own. Bul the air fore wis showing no
sign of dealing with the implications of the Egyptians” increased anti-aircraft
capability even hough we'd begun losing planes and pilots to the new
surface-to-air missile batteries Nasser had received [rom the Soviets. And T
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could sec that a similar myopia, or deaial, was affecting the armored corps. On
patrol along the canal, T would sometimes see the hulk of an Tsracli tank which
had been destroyed by Soviet-made AT-3s, Known as Suguers, they were
portable, allowing a sel soldier fo fire wire-gnided missiles. Their vange wis
nearly a mile-and-a-hall, which yes more than the main guns on our Lanks. Yet
10 ane appeared to have addressed the question of what would happen if the
Ligyplians used Saggecs on an even greater scale in a future war.
I remained in the Sinai throngh carly 1971, bt never led my tank company
on combat operations. By the time we were due for our deployment, the War of
Attrition was suddenly over, Neither we nor the Egyptians wanted a retum ta
full-seale war. With Washington taking the lead a cease-fire was agreed. Both
sides claimed victory. But both were exhausted. Certainly, most Tsraelis had
ceased to see a compelling reason for the 1,000 days of fighting, We had lost
about 900 dead: more than in the Six-Day War.
But in oue respeel, the Ligyplians won. Under the terms of the truce, their
anti-aircraft batteries were barred from a roughly 30-mile strip along: the canal
Willin days of the truce, however, Nasser began moving his SAM batlerics
forward. Before log, there were nearly 100 missile sites in the “prohibited”
zone. giving: the Egyptians control of 20 miles or more of the airspace on our
side of fhe canal. Golda was incensed. So was Buv-lev. Bul there was no way,
and no will, w reopen the fighting and force Nasser lo move the missiles back
The cease-fire wok eflect au midnight on August 7, 1970. Pve never had
trouble recalling the date, because of a phone call almost exactly 24 hours later,
[was from my mother-melaw. 10 tell me Nigvis bid gone into labor with our first
child. Since I was due for deployment on the front line. we had agreed weeks
earlier that the best thing would be for her to have the huby in Tiberias, so her
parents could bee with her. Now, 1 gota Jeep and vaced novth. reached Tibenas
the next morning. | opened the door to the hospital room and saw Nava,
obviously tired but beaming, cradling our daughter Michal in her arms.
| managed to stay with them for several days before returning to the Sinan
With Nava aod Michal soon settled back into our apartment in the noth Tel
Aviv neighborhood of Ramat Aviv, I made weekend visits home whenever 1
could. Sul, 1 suw nowhere near as much of our daughter’s first few months as
wos! fathers. As Nuva sad 1 would discover even more janingly over the next
few years. that was an inescapable part of being an anny officer.
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But at least my next posting was closer to home. Tt was only 20 minutes rom
our apartment, on a former RAF base ot fer from Lod airport. On the First of
April 1971, Twas promoted from major to lieutenant-colonel, and iven the
assigrment which, nore thus amy other, 1d hoped for when [retumed lo the
army.
Thecame the commander of Sayerer Matkal.
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Chapter Light
It was the same jumble of buildings in the same corner of the base where I'd
reported a decade: earlier, is w 19-year-old fresh fom trom, when the siyeret
was still a gleam in Avraham Aroan’s eye. Now, | was about to beconie the fist
of his successors to have been chosen from within the unit irself. As [ called
Together the officers thud First morning, [conldn’t be sire whether | would make
2 Success of my wo years in command. But | did know what 1 hoped that 1, and
we, would accomplish: to complete Avraham’s vision. To forge a true special-
forces unit, at a time when the threats facing Israel seemed increasingly to
demand voe.
Aveahan’s initial hopes and expectations for the unit had been more than
met, Sayeret Maskal had played the key role im erasing the traumus of Uri lan
and Rotem, und restoring he morale nd eectiveress of lsrach nifilary
intelligence. Time and again, operations which we said we could do — dismissed
as too dangerous, or impossible, by otliers — proved achievable. Yet as 1 now.
told the team leaders and our other officers, this was no longer enough,
Our intelligence operations still mattered. tu fact, we would have 10 “push
further” across Arab borders, deeper into enemy communications systems. Our
intercepts had given Israel an important edge in the Six-Day War. 1 assumed
though naively. it would tum out = that they would be put to use in any fulure
war. But if the sayeret was to reain its unique role, we had to become a fighting
force as well. One reason, I didn’t even have to mention: we all remembered our
frustration in 1967, when we'd been little more than bit players m the most
important contliet sine the csiablistnent of the stare. But for me, the main
argument for change was what had happened since the 1967 war: the fact that
Israel was facing a new range of security challenges which other army units,
tained 0 engage and defeat enemy oops on the balefiekd, were not equipped
to meel.
Tn the War of Attrition, we might nat have last a single inch of territory. But
we hued lost tanks and planes, Jsrach soldiers and pilots were being held prisoner
iin Ligypt and Syvia. Araft’s Fatah and the ther armed Palestinian groups might
not present a conventional threar. Yet while I'd been with my tank company in
the Sinai, they were fighting a full-scale civil war against King Hussem’s army
in Jordan. The catalyst: a multiple hijacking in September 1970, a sign that they
were turning to nom-copventiond wartare, and ro acts of terror.
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“We're not starting from scratch,” T assured the sayeret officers, and 1 could
see some of them nodding in agreement. We had a proven record of success,
wader Avraham and the four other commanders before me. We would be able to
sely on the qualities tha bud proved our doubters wrong in our first intelligence
missions. “We have to stay ue to the spirit of Sayerct Matkal,” [ said. Every
one of the officers knew what I meant: teamwork. the way we valued brains and
creativity, mare than formal lines of authority, The rigor we applied ta training
for, preparing for, and excouting cach mission. And, no kess importantly. to
criticizing, and trying to fix. everything that had gone wrong: on an operation, or
we'd failed to anticipate.
Though | expected to be leading miny of the operations myself, [knew that
we'd succeed or fail on the strengths of the oflicers around me. [ was incredibly
fortunate on that score. Somme, I already knew well from my time as Digli's
deputy. Smart, self-confident, self-sturiing officers hike Amiram Levin, the
stocky kibbuvaik om the north with whom 1d worked most closely and mest
often as deputy. Avshalom IToran — Avsha — who'd convinced me to risk
completing the mission on the roud from Suez to Cairo, Gora Zorea, wha, like
we, hel come up through the mit and wis one of our most experienced em
leaders. And Danny Yatom. Bora not far from Mishmar Ilashavon, bul a city
boy. from Netanya, he was smart, level-headed and a sure-handed organizer,
and wath whom 1°d somehow held from time he arrived wm the sayerel. [made
Rif my deputy for my fist year in command.
There were two others as well. both related to Moshe Dayan, but with a self-
assurance ull their own: Uzi Dayun, the son of Moshe’s brother, who had been
Killed in the 1948 war when Uzi was only months old; and Mookie Betzer, who
was married to Uzi’s cousin. I'm pol sure which of the two joined the sayerel
first. Mookie, I believe. But their family ties, far from extraordinary. were part
of how Sayeret Matkal had developed from the start. 1t had been friends
bringing [riends. But also, not infrequently. a cousin bringing a cousin, or a
brother bringing a brother.
This was the case with two ather officers, whom | knew less well at first but
who would become key members of my team. lu heir case, it was the younger
one who joined first. Binyamin Netanyahu — Bibi, as everyone called him — had
been a member of Amiram Levin's team when [ was Digli’s deputy. He'd also
been i part of one of our several thankfully himless failures along the canal
at the beginning of the War of Attrition. The plan was to cross in rubber boats
held together hy nylon cord, with the assistance of Shavetet 13, lsrael's
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equivalent of the American navy SEALs. But Bibi’s dinghy got tangled up, and
he found himself in the canal, being tugged down by the eucrent. Only the
SEALs, and Bibi’s mix of calm and endurance. averted disaster.
When | retired ws commander, Bib bid gone through officers” school and
was given a team of his own, making him one of half-a-dozen core, operational
officers with whom I worked from the planning stages of every mission,
through the training und the operation itself. Especislly with Bibi, since he was
newest 1o the ral. He was smart, tough and, even by sayeret stundrds,
supremely self-confident. Tt also was clear that he understood my determination
to build the unit into a military strike force which was one reason why he
unzed me to bring in his alder brother, Bibi wis 22 at the time, His brother
Yonatan, or Yoni — was 25. Tle had led a company of paratroopers in the 1967
war, before poing off to university. He'd taken a bullet in the elbow while
helping to rescue one af his soldiers behind Syriun lines on the Galan, “He
wal fo ret lo the amy, and he’s exactly the kind of officer you wan,” Bibi
said.
1 brought Yoni in for a chat. Over the next several years, [ would get to know
him much better, becoming nol just fiends but neighbors, when he bought a flat
a few floors up from ours. But even in this first meeting, 1 found him a contrast
to his younger brother. Bibi was practical, detail-oriented. Yoni was a more
complex character. He was interested in history, and philosophy, He wots
poetry. He would sometimes feel the need 1© get of0 by bimsel(, and just think.
Tle was a man of action, too. Taller and trimmer than Bibi, with a thick thatch of
dark har swept back from a craggy face, he was the Central Casting image of a
soldier. He also hid real, bauleficld expericuce. Nol auly did 1insile hin lo join
Sayeret Matkal. T put him in chacge of our Lraining leams. When Danny Yatom
left the following year to train as an armored officer. [ made Yoni my deputy.
However dillirent in some ways, the Netanyahu brothers were elose. They
seemed almost driven, Lo exeel and to succeed. As | got to know them both, |
sensed thar the drive did not come merely from within. It came from their
upbringing, their family background, ind in particular their father, Beneion
Milickowslky, as he then was, siudicd at Hebrew University at the same lime as
my father. in the early 1930s. and was an impassioned supporter of Ben-
Gurion’s main right-wing Zionist rival, Ze"ev Jabotinsky. My father
remembered him gathering bemused groups of students during breaks from
classes, standing on an upturned wooden box. and proclaiming thai the Arabs
would rever willingly weeept a Jewish state, Long before the 1948 war, and
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nearly four decades before our caplure of the West Bank in 1967, he insisted
that we needed 10 create a Jewish state in all of biblical Isvael: (rom the
Mediterranean to the Jordan River.
Iwas throngh Bibi snd Yom this 1 got fo know their father. Aller 1948, be
had led a frustrating existence. A specialist in medieval Jewish history. hie could
not find a place on the faculty ac ITebrew University. [le was convinced,
perhips with some reason, tht his outspoken advocacy for Jubotinsky™s
Zionism in a country defined by Ben-Gurion’s had frozen him oul. He leit to
pursue his academic career in America, where both Yoni and Bibi spent much
of their youth. He always remained bircer about what he felt were untair.
politically inspired, roudblocks fo his academic advancement in Jerusalem,
Though hie would eventually return Lo [sracl, he wes teaching at Coraell
when his sons became officers under my command in Sayeret Matkal. So there
was a physwal distance between father and sons. But what struck me was how
large the father loomed in both of their lives. There was an almost adolescent
admiration, bordering on worship. I remember once remarking to Nava that it
was as if, despite all their physical self-confidence. Bibi and Yoni were tethered
To their futher by some mental umbilical cord. They seemed weighted down by
struggle to live up to his expectations, to right the “wrongs” done to him, and
achieve the advancement and success which the young State of Israel had
denicd him. In poignant postseript, decades Later when Bibi first was elected
Prime Minister, Ben-Zion was asked by a journalist for his reaction. “He would
make a very good Minister of Hasharah,” he replied, a ITebrew word which
translates as something between public relations and propazanda, “Or Foreign
Minister.” But how shoul Prime Minister. he reporter pressed. Ben-Zion
replied: “Time will ell.”
Tiven as we mounted intercept operations deeper into Egypt and Syria. I
mide sure that we tamed as 1f we were already the broader stake foree 1 hoped
Sayeret Matkal would become. We mapped oul plas for commands operations
against the new kind of security challenges the country faced. We worked in
detail an how we'd carry them out. We prepared rigorously to make sure we'd
be ready. Yet no matter how proficient we got, there was no guarantee it would
actually happen. A bit like Avraham in the unit's infancy, 1 had to deal with the
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frustration of ying Lo convince the generals in the kirva to give us the go-
ahead. Some of them agreed Israel needed u specially trained commando focoe.
But not everyone felt Sayeret Matkal could, ar should, take on that rale, Rafael
“Rafi” Filan wis perhaps the most sivident. He had Gought with the Paluch in
1948. Tle was an officer in Unit 101 and a commander of the pacachuists’
Battalion 890. Ile was now faizhur, in overall charge of all infantry and
paraicuop focees. Le insisted thal such work required a real sayeret, by which
Tie meant the paratroopers.
Yet the need foc a special-forces unit was becoming increasingly hard to
ignore, By the summer of 1971, w couple of months after 1 became sayeret
commander, King Hussein's amy had defeated the insurgency of Fatal and a
pair of even more militant partners, the Democratic Front and the Popular Front
for the 1 iberation of Palestine, That meant a quieter easte frontier. Aut the
Palestinian groups rebased across our northern border in Lebanon. When
Tordenian Prime Minister Walsi al-Tal was assassinated, it proved to be the start
of a series of killings and terror attacks by a new eroup within Fatah. called
Black September. There was at least some potentially encouraging news from
Leypl. When Nasser died in September 1970, he was succseded by a less
flamboyandy militant vice-president, Anwar Sadat. Yet in both Teypt and
Syria, a number of one sie force pilots were still being held prisoner.
1 fell an especially strong motivation to help bring the pilots home. They had
sisked their lives for us. Tt seemed to me we owed them the same. One of the
men being held in Syria, Pini Nachman, had i personal connection to many of
ws in the unit. He had worked with us on siyeret missions. | came up with # plan
that, while undeniably risky. seemed w me Lo have every chance of success. It
was to abduct a uiber of Syrians from an officers” club on the western edge of
Duss. Wee world lane in transport helicoplers Rew miles sway and unload
a paic of armoced cars captured in 1967. But Raful's view prevailed. Teould not
get the approval of the Airy. I did take heart from Avraham Arnan's support.
He wis now Golds Meit's connler-taarorism adviser. Also from the fet that
Chaim Bar-Lev’s suceessor as chil of stall was an old fricad of the sayeret:
Dado Dlazar, Avraham’s Palimach comrade from 1948. Yet winning over the
remaining doublers in the kirya was abviously going to fake time
As so oflen duving my years in uniform, Jowever, Sayerel Miatkals bitth us
a special-forces unit came by force of circumstance: not in an officers” club near
Damascus. but a few miles iway from our base, on runway at |ad Airport,
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PE
Twas sitting: down to dinner with Nava a litcle before seven on May 8, 1972
when the phone ring, We'd just fed Michael, who was almost two, full of
energy, and showed a0 sign of wanting to 20 to bed. “T's Manno,” said the
voice on the line. Brigadier General Emanuel “Manno” Shalced was Dada’s
chief of aperatians. “A plane has been hijacked,” he said. “It’s heading for 1 od.
Twill land in about 30 minutes. They've got hostages. Gel to the airport. Dado
and Dayan are on their way.”
1 called Danny Yatom and told him to et whoever was at the sayeret base to
Lod as soon es possible. Bul must of Lhe men were on training exercises,
including one team with Yoni deep in the Negev Desert. Ile immediately began
calling them back. When I got to the airport, I found Dayan and Dada huddling
in a soom below the control tower, unfurnished execpt For a small table iu the
comer. Talik was there with them. Tle was now head of all military operations
in the kiryu, Rechavam 7e”evi as well, the head of the central command area,
which melded Tel Aviv, So was Ahrahle Yariv, who had succeeded Meir Amit
as head of miliary intelligence, and nodded glumly as 1 joined them
The plane had landed. A Sabena Boeing 707 bound from Brussels to Tel
Aviv, it had been hijacked fier i stopover in Vieni All we knew al this point
wees that the hijackers were Palestinians and that there were about a hundred
passengers on board. Dado said that, while we figured out how to respond. we
had to make sure, at all costs. the plane didn’t take off again. It would
presumably go to an Arab country, where we'd be powerless to ac. Though
only a handful of my men had arrived. T took the only officer who had. Shai
Agmon, and an E1 Al engineer to see whether we could disable the hijacked jer.
tt was parked well off fram the mam terminal arca, With the El Almian leading
the way. we approached fiom the rear, crouching low, hoping the hijackers
wouldn't spot us. The engines were still running, but at least the deatening noise
kept amyone from hearing us us we ducked under the fuselage and the engineer
removed a stabilizing pin from the font wheel. It was an eerie feeling,
envisaging the captive crew and passengers, and the terrorists, a few feet above
our heads but knowing we were powerless to do anything mare fo help.
Manno hue called me not because 1°d won my argument to expand the role
of the sayeret. It was the luck of the draw. With the growing threat of terrorism.
the inva bid drawn up a list of installations which might be targeted. Next to
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cach, they'd put the name of the military unit 10 be called up in an emergency
We'd been allocated Lod Airport, because our base was just 15 minutes away.
Sill, as | accompanied the engineer back fo the control tower, [ tried to work
aut in my mind whether we could plan, prepare and iain quickly cuough to
mou an operation 10 free the plane later that night.
More than a dozen members of the unit had now arrived, and more were
joing us every hali-hour or so. | areanged for EI Alto give us hangar and a
707 identical 10 the Sabena plane. Shai, Danny Yatom and 1 wok two airline
technicians with us for a closer look ar the Boeing. We studied up on ic as
quickly as we could, beginmimiz with the cockpit and the front door, which we
saw was 100 high 10 reach without a large ladder. But making our way back, we
realized the wings weee low enough to climb ou to. When, with the help of
Danny, [elambered onto ane of them, 1 managed to get ane of the emergency.
doors Lo open by banging hard on the top ead with my open fist T asked the
technicians whether we could expect the Sabena doors 1 give way as well. Yes,
he said. but he cautioned me that on some airlines. there were passenger seats
next 10 1 least one of the hwo doors above cach wing.
Walking up inw the cabin, {ried 10 work out how we might attack te
hijackers before they were able to harm the passengers. or us. The risks were
obvious, But | felt we had to be ready to uct, With the rest of the sayeret shill
making its way 1 Lod, [ put Dauny in charge of briefing the new arrivals,
familiarizing them with the 707 and preparing for the possibility of an assault
operation. | alsa fold him to get hold of a couple of dozen small, 22-culiber,
Beretta pistols. | eouldu’ see how we'd manage 10 make our way onto the plane
with Uzis. We knew we'd have 0 get up Lo speed quickly on using the Berettas.
None of us had trained on them. But many of the air marshals on hoard El Al
Mighis were Suyeret Matkal reservists, and they did use Berets. [old Danny
10 cheek for any sayecel marshals acriviog on Tl Al Oights and get them 10 join
us.
As headed buck 10 see Dido, we were nowhere close to i detiiled plan on
Tow 10 contront the hijackers. Nor did we have any orders. The people who
would give them — Dado, Dayan and ultimately Prime Minister Meir — were still
dearding how to respond. But when 1 reached the control tower, at about
9:30pm, the order came, if not 1o mount an operation, at least 10 make suse the
sayeret was ready. “Talk to Talik.” Dado told me. “See what the options are to
tuke aver the plane if that's the decision.” 1 sat down with Talk and ran through
what I'd learned (com my brief look at the hijacked plane and the work we'd
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been doing on the Israeli 707. told him I'd need another two hours 1 make
sure my mien had practiced climbing up on the wings and forcing open the
doors, and another hour for preparations and briefings far the teams who would
he participating in the operation. “By about hall sn hone aller midmght, we'll be
ready to deploy,” 1 said, though from his stoic, neacly silent response [ couldn’t
be sure whether he was in favor of an assault. “By 0100, we'll be ready to act.”
Both af us went back fo see Dado. He seemed encouraged, especially when 1
said we'd be ready W move by one in the morning. He told me the pilot of the
plane had been in contact with the control tower. He was an RAF veteran and.
though the terrorists seemed tmaware of this, he was ulso Jewish, The hijackers
were demanding more than 300 Avab prisoners be released and flown tw Cairo.
“And they seem quite nervous.”
Returning to the hangar, [ sent Shai Agmon with tour soldiers to set up a
Tookout ned sniper post about 70 yards lo the side of the Sabena jel. {old him
not 10 open fire unless they were sure there had been shooting inside the plane
and could positively identity an anmed hijacker, By now. we had three dozen
soldiers and officers, melding Uzi Dayan and his full team. 1 ook all those
whe were already bricfed and divided them into four groups, cach with an
officer and five soldiers and assigned to deal with one of the wing doors. I left
the others fo contmue training,
When mricdnight vme, [sas far from certain we could meet the 12:30 um
deployment target I'd given Talik. Incoming flights had stopped for the night.
and we still hudn’t managed to bring in any aie marshals, | believed they would
give us a crucial advange. They knew Berets. They also knew the inside ofa
707. But 1 was worried about losing Dado’s trust in a sayeret operation if we
failed to meet the timeline. From Shais lookout post to the side of the plane, |
lead that the front cabin door of the plane wis open. He suid he'd seen a
couple of hijackers walking by iL. silhouctted by the dim cabin light But
otherwise, there was no sign of activity inside, 1 called Talik and told him [ was
fuking my ussault leams 1o the ares behmd the plane. About a half-hour lier, 1
contirmed we were ready to begin the operation. Although the planc’s engines
were off now, our approach had been masked by the drone of the generator
brought in to supply power to the cabm, We were lying face-down on the
tarmac, directly hehind the tail of the plane but well back. 1 wo rows of 12 men,
plus me and a soldier in charge of the communications. We'd brought along.
four small adders ta help us nto the wings, “We want ta exploit the darkness,
and the sound of the generator, to cover us.” I said in ny final briefing before
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we'd le the hangar. “I they realize we're there, we pet into the cabin as
quickly as possible, any way we can. The first five seconds will ne critical. Act
decisively,” | told the men, “Assume that everyone else will be doing the same,
Trust your instincts. You arc trained for ts.
But more than an hour passed as we wailed for the green light to storm the
plane. My main concern wasn't that the hijackers would see us. There seemed
little rensan fo beheve ane of them would suddenly decide to take a walk in the
idle of the night. But sunrise was around five in the moming, and there was
no way [ could see mounting our assault in broad daylight. If we didn’t get the
go-ahead soon, the chince would be lost, 1 culled Talik several times, making
he point that it we were going to do it, we needed to nse darkness is an ally
The sayeret was a breed of night animals. Other people, even terrorists, would
be less alert and effective af night, But he kept saying he needed more time.
Finally, an hour before sunrise, he called bck. “The big boss 1s on bis way,”
he said. [lef the others and crept back to meet fhe Defense Minister, a good
eighty yards from the plane. Dayan greeted me with a whispered hello. Ina
way, his wrraval reminded me of my firs! opecatian in the sayeret when, before
leading north w the Golan, I'd been summoned w brief Uzvi Uzur, the chief of
staff. Tzur had seemed less interested in the details than in contirming that / was
confident the mission would work. Dayan, of course, had ss much operations |
knowledge and experience as anyone in Israel. Yel it seemed wo me that he, oo,
wanted to satisfy himsell"that T honestly felt we were in a posilion to succeed.
Especially, though he never so much as hmted at ths, because two of the
officers [wonld be taking in with me, Uzi sud Mookie Betzer, were members of
his family.
“Tow do you plan to do it?” he asked. [ explained how we would get into the
phic sinuluncously, in Four isms, and confront Ure hijackers. | said [was
conlident we'd succeed, especially since darkness save us an clement of
surprise. and the terrorists were bound to be tiring. “We can do it,” I said.
“Better now than in daytime.” Dayan merely nodded. He staod there, silent, for
another few moments, “Ill et you know,” he said. the shook my band and
requrned to the control tower. But fifteen minutes later he sent his reply, via
Talik. It was brief and explicit: “Not tonight.”
Far the first but not fhe last time in imiform, 1 felt the frustration of finding
my preparation and judgement eumped, without explanation, by a decision
from above, When [ got back to the control tower, | made no attempt to hide my
view we should have moved against the hijackers while we had the ehance. Bul
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Dado sat me down and filled me in on whal was obviously a hanging situation
Tle said the terrorists had allowed the pilot, Reginald Levy, to come see Dayan
and press their demands. He had brought with him a slab of Tight-yellow
mnterial fo demonstrate the serionsness of the risk of saying no. When tested, ii
turned out lo be exaelly what the hijackers said it was: plastic explosive.
The pilot said there were four terrorists: two men with pistols and two
women with explosives and grenades. There were 95 passengers and seven
crew. He'd also confined that none of the exits above the wings was blocked
by a passenger seat. He'd returned to the plane without any clear answer from
Dayan on the prisoner release, But before leaving, he revealed tht his own wife
wees among the passengers. He asked Daya fo promise that Israel wonld help
care for their daughter if the hijack caded tragically
By the next moming, that was looking mare and mare likely, Though the
Iiickens were still in contact with the tower, the only visible movement wis the
arcival of a wepresentative of the Red Cross. The lead hijacker, who called
himself Captain Rifa’at. was making increasingly forceful demands for the
prisoner release. Our negatiatmy team did its best a buy me by giving the
appearance we were considering Lhe demand. 1 was Dayan who carne up with
the idea of going further. He told Rechavam Ze'evi. as the head of the central
command arc, to begin rounding up hundreds of young (srachi reserve solders.
He wanted them dressed them in prison uniforms. aud then bused Lo the aispor,
within sight of the hijacked jet. Dayan also acranged for another Boeing 707.
ostensibly to take the “freed prisoners” an to Cai,
“What then?” Ze'ev asked Dayan. “We're not sally going to put them on a
plane and take off!”
[twas after he'd had no real reply that he in effect answered his own
question, inadvertently leading us to the idea of attempt a daytime attack
after zll. Talking to Dado and me. he said: “Since we re going to such lengths to
deceive them. why not just add another layer? Why can’t Ehud’s people take the
roll of the uimort mechanics?” | ooking af euch other, Dado and | realized it
was a stroke of brilliance. Dado went to share the plan with Dayan, confident
that he would be no less enthusiastic, which he was. 1 remained with Ze'evi and
is deputy to work our the details, We agreed they would take care of the
pantomime with the prisoners, is well arranging for kl Al to gel us the ladder
trucks that airline maintenance crews used, which would allow us access to the
Sabena jets front and ver doors is well. That lefl me free fo concentrate on
preparation and training.
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We had just a few hours to adapt the original plas. Alliough we'd trained in
close-quarters fighting for my plan to attack the officers’ club near Damasous,
wed never had to use that skill in a live mission, Nor had we ever used the
Herel. While we'd disguised ourselves is cremy soldiers ov miliary police
an our intelligence operations. this would be the first time we were taking on
the persona of civilian engineers. with the need to fool armed terrorists on the
lookout Coc any sign of danger or betrayal. And for the first time in amv of our
major operations, we would be operating in daytime
Now that nearly all our soldiers and officers had artived, 1 began arranging
the final line-up of attack teams, We would need six rather than four, since the
now pln would give 1s access to the front and sear doors. Damy now also told
me that a couple of the [1 Al techaicians liad shown him a way of climbing up
from imside the nose wheel info the cockpit, One of the foughest und strangest
of our soldiers, Ui Koren, had tried it successfully on the EI Al 707. 1 wld
Denny, Uri and another officer that they would be assigned to attack thcough the
front door and the nose wheel. I puc Uzi Dayan in charge of the tail door. The
emergency doors above the wings, however, sill give us the quickest way in. 1
planned w command the operation fiom the left of the airerafl, because both the
front and tail doors also faced that way. I entrusted Bibi Netanyahu and his team
with breaking m through the main wing door on the fav sade of the plane.
By noon, we got a further boost. With the resumption of incoming flights.
we began collecting air marshals. One in particular raised my confidence. T
knew Mordechar Rachamim well from the sayeret, He was a Yemeni Jew from
Elyakhiin, the moshay near Mishmar Hisharon where Baddura and the other
Yemeni workers lived. Tle was tall, strong and athletic, nawcally agile and quick
to respond in situations of danger. He was also no ordinary air marshal. In 1969.
hed heen posted on an EI AI Might From Amsterdam lo Tel Aviv. On a siopover
inn Zurich, four gunmen from Fatah's main sadicel rivel in the PLO, the Popular
Front for the Liberation of Palestine, leapt out of a car, opened fire with AK-47s
and begin throwing grenades. The PEP assanlt mired fon of he crew and
Killed the co-pilot. Armed with his Beretta, Mordechai custied to the cockpit
window and returned fire. Seeing the attackers were oo far away, he slid down
the emerzency chute. Once on the tarmac, he shot one of the ferorists in the
head and kept the rest of them al bay.
As additional air marshals arrived, T slotted cach of them into an assault team
in place of ane of our sayeret soldiers. The next fo amive was Viareo Ashkenazi,
a Cairo-born veteran with whom I'd worked on a mission inside Teypt. T put
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Mordechai on the main lefi-side wing, door, critical for the apening momeots of
the assault, and added Masco to Bibi's team on the other side of the airerafl
It was then that Yoni arrived back trom Negev. He insisted on being added
10 one of the assiult teams. I one respect, that made sense. He had more
battlefield experience than almost everyone in the unit. But there was an
unwritten sayeret rule never to place two brothers together in the line of fire.
Es 100 late,” [old him, with in arm an his shonlder, “Bibi has already been
training his tam.” He went off 10 find Bibi. [ thought there was little chance of
Bibi sanding down, but didn’t feel 1 could stap Yoni from trying, Five minutes
later, they came to tall to me, Bibi said: “Yoni wants fo replace me, We want
you to decide.” | nssumed both of them knew what ['d say. **Fodkay., it’s Bibi,”
seplied. “But Youi, this is not ouc last operation. T will make sure you are there
the next time.”
The last marshal to join us was i tall, thin redhead we always called Zur.
Led had only 15 minutes w begin taining when | got word that Dado — along
with Ze’evi and Ahrahle Yariv were on their way to see a run-through. As
they filed mio the hangar, 1 quickly explamed the operations] plan, 1 showed
hem how we would push in the wing doors in, and then ushered them inside the
707. Two minutes later, the emerirency-daor teams climbed on to the wings.
When | give the agreed bwo-fimgzer whistle, they stormed the plane, “OK,
gentlemen,” Dado old the team leaders when it was over, "We've seen what we
needed.” Before returning to the control tower. however, he took me aside.
“You know they have explosives, night!” he sand. When 1 said yes, his tone
soflencd. “You don’t have much ume, Ehud” be said. “Don’t wasie i.
Bellarzlakha.” Good luck.
We still had to outfit ourselves in mechanics’ overalls, and swap the
sayerets paralraap-sty le red bats for black ones. | dieoted al the men lo
canceal the Beretias on a waist-bell inside their overalls, We got acquainted
with our mechanics” toolboxes, Finally we organized our maintenance
matarcade: four electronic buggies in front, towing four ladders, two short ones
Tor the wings and taller ones for the front aud rear doors. Waiting lov the veder
fo move. I'said a final few words. Secing the determination and nervous
anticipation on the faces of the men around me, 1 began by reiterating that the
first five seconds would be critical. “We all kuow that nothing ever happens
exactly according to plan. Gach and every one of us has to focus on speed,
‘momentum and precision, No ene can wart far anyone else fo act, From the
moment T give the signal, or if we come under fire, each am has 1 act as if
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they have to accomplish this all on their own. AH of us must assume that. Keep
cool. Stay focused. Rely on your instincts. We're ready for this mission. And
we are going to achieve it,”
One mnie after four in the aficmoon, we gol the word 10 go. [was m the
lead buggy. consciously trying to look like a civilian, not a soldier. It was about
amile-and-a-half to the aircraft. 1 glanced back at the others. Like me. many of
them had been awake for 30 hours or more, in some cases neirly 48 hours, The
air marshals had been plucked off long-haul Mights on which relaxation, much
less sleep. was not an option. As before any mission, [ knew everyone would be
thinly about whit was about fo happen, They also realized that if we failed,
the passengers trapped inside the plane would be at the merey of errovisis
armed with AK-17s and explosives. But I was confident thal any apprehension
would be overtaken by adrenalm when us the assault began,
As we got closer, Shai Agmon radioed me. He sand two or three people, nol
ihe terrovisis, had come out of the plane. One seemed Ww be the Red Cross man.
They were about 120 yards away trom the aircratr. As soon as he'd signed off, 1
got word from the commind post in the control ower thal 11 was indeed the Red
Crass representative, along with two of the ight crew. They'd heen chosen by
the terrorists to do security checks on the “maintenance” men.
[brought the convoy to « halt, The Red Cross man gave each of us a fairly
cursory body seinch before waving us on. Then, ie gol w Bibi. Though | hd
somehow failed to notice, he had left on his red saveret boots. In [srael, that was
the equivalent of a neon sign saying: “1 am a paratrooper.” Although the Red
Crass man noticed the boots, he al first made no comment. Then, rolling up the
pants leg of Bibi’s overalls, he saw his Beretta — not inside his waistbelt, but
inside the boat. The next thing 1 heard was an angry spurt of French as the man
culled the control wer. For a moment, | feared the mission was aver, wilh
potentially fatal copereussions for the hostages. But whatever explanation the
Red Cross man was given presumably by Dayan himself, who would not have
held back in conveying whit was at stuke it dissuaded him from fuking funber
action.
As we were Ieturing 10 the buggies. the Red Cross man told me that
“Captain Rifa"at”™ hud ordered us to pull up to the generitor on the side of the
plane. Eich of us would then have wo walk forward and open the front of our
overalls so he could make sure we weren't armed. 1 passed back four orders to
the rest of the men. Fist, with no exceptions, move your pistol fo the ack of
your belt. Second: 11] be the first 0 ga through the inspection. Third: watch
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what T do and do the same. Tinally, if our cover is broken, or il you hear
uafice, we all storm the plane.
[ tel as | always did as an operation was about to begin. Along with the
tension, I had a keen swarcness of cverylhing happening around me, almost is
if was watehing things iu slow motion, in high resolution. When our
motorcade approached the generator, Rifa’ar leaned out from the co-pilor’s
window. He wits pointing a pistol at us. He seemed to be in his late 205 or carly
308. He had dark hair and a moustache and the hint of 2 stubbly beard. We
stopped beside the generator. 1 got out and walked toward the cockpit, halting
about 10 feet away, Looky up the hijucker, [ made a conscious effort fo appear
curious rather than worried. His eyes seemed a mix of intense focus and tension.
Topened the front of my overalls. Because of the heal, T was wearing nothing
else on ron, He nodded his head ro sigmal he wus satisfied. | refastened the
overalls and moved off. One by vue, the other men passed inspection. Then we
went back and brought the two smaller ladders to the side of cach wing. and the
“mechanics” set down to work. I delayed bringing in the large ladders so as to
sive any visk of arousing (he terrorists” snspicions.
“The fie that at least so far they seemed Lo suspeet nothing was in large part
down to Dayan’s misdirection plan. As we began working on the plane, the
“Pylestmian” prisoners were disembarking from buses about 300 yards awiy.
As Rili'at watched, several hundred men formed long rows, A few of them
waved in his direction. The Boeing which was theoretically going to take them
on to Cairo, to be followed by the Sabena jet mus the hostages. was being
Towed ino position.
One by one, our assault teams were moving into place. All that remained
was for me to give a short, sharp whistle and the attack would begin. Yet just as
1 was raising my fingers to my mouth, [saw Bibi coming toward me from wider
the fuselage. Le motioned 10 me 10 wait. Zur, the last of our air marshals, had a
prablem. Having spent 10 hours in the air on the way back to Israel, before
being mediately plugged into wn ussuul lea, he had something to attend to,
“Ue has 10 lake a shit,” Bibi said. Can’yit wait. | asked. No. was the auswer. So
Tsaid OK. leading to the most surreal “operational” moment T would witness
duringz ull my years in the miliary,
The “prisoner release” was now in full low. Dozens of military vehicles,
and a small army of fire engines and ambulances, had also pulled to the far end
al the tmway, ou of sight of the njackers, in cise our attack on tie Sabena jel
went weong. Tel Aviv hospitals were on ake. And Zur was crouching and
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selieviog himself. Te nodded in gratiwde when he'd finished. and returied to
Bibi's eam on the far wing. 1 gave him a full minute to be certain be was in
plice.
Then [ whistled. From my fuitial position beside the plane, | saw Damy
Yatom and his team begin to move onc of the tall ladders toward the front dour.
Shifting my eyes toward the wing doors as the “crucial first five seconds™ ticked
by, | saw both the ones on my side of the plane were still shut, 1 elimbed wp on
the wing. When 1 got to the smaller, rear door | saw the main one cave inwerd
and Mordechai Rachamim rush in. Bur the soldier on the other door was
trembling und frozen m place, 1 slapped him, hurd, on the back, “Move!” 1
shouted. Instantly, he pushed the door in and rushed inside. 1 then noticed Uz
and his team had still not entered from the reac. T jumped fom the wing and ran
toveurd the ladder at the back, but by the time | got there, they had made it
inside, and I followed them in.
Liverything was over within 90 seconds. As I'd expected, the planning and
training fumed out to matter less than instinct and initiative. Within seconds. Uri
Koren managed lo get info the nose-wheel assembly. Though he couldn't
dislodac a metal-mesh panel separating it from the cockpit, he spotted the
outline of a man’s foot above him, fired, and wounded Captain Rifa’at. The
other members of Dany’ feam in front were less lucky, With the ladder, they
had vo trouble getting to the passenger door, but they struggled to fore if open.
When they did nudge it open a crack, one of the hijackers opened fire, slightly
wounding one of the men and forcing them to abandon the attempt,
Mordechar went in shooting, bul immediately drew fire and had 10 retreal.
But Omer Wachman, another air marshal I'd posted on the far wing. was ina
couple of seconds later. Coming face-to-face with one of the hijackers, he shot
Him in the head. That ullowed Mordechis 10 gel bck side. He quickly
exchanged fire with the hobbled Captain Rifa’at, hitting the hijacker in the side
As Mordechai ducked down to reload his pistol, Rita’at managed to lock
himself inside one of the toilets nei fhe cockpit. Mordecha rim aller hin, He
fired through the bathroont dour, then kicked it open and confirmed that he was.
dead. Rushing back toward the center of plane, he spotted the main woman
hijucker, wearing a bulky explosive vest. Grabbing her hands, he reached mide
the vest and yanked oul the batlery pack. With two of the lijackers aleady
dead, Mordechai had now subdued the third. But knowing that there was still
another woman unaccounted for, he handed her aver to Bibi und Marco
Ashkenazi. Bibi grabbed her by the back of her hair, but it ued out to be a
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wig. which came ofT in his hand. As she began sercaming, Marco instinctively
struck her across the face, but be used the hand in which he bad his Bereua. The
gun went off, and the bullet grazed Bibi im his upper arm.
When Uzi Dayan had finally gol in thiongh the rear door, he'd run up
against a stocky, suntauned ma blocking in his way, and fired — thank fully,
only into his midsection. He rumed out to be one of the passengers, a film-
muker from Austria, SHI, there was the other woman hijacker to deal with,
Several of the passengers pointed w the Moor just shead of Uz, where she lay
curled up. holding a grenade with the pin out. Ordering her loudly, stemly, not
to move, Uza wrapped his hand over hers, extricted the grenade from her mis
finger by finger, weplaced the pin, and bid one of his men lod ber out of the:
plane and down the stairs.
All the hijackers had been either killed or captured.
Tragically, in the initial crossfire, u 22-year-old passenger named Miriam
Tlolizberg. had been hit. Although the man whom Uzi had mistakenly shot
recovered, she did not, Yet all of the remaining passengers and crew were now
free and safe, ahve and unbiamed.
lela mix of emotions when it was over: pride. a sease of achievement
against all the odds. And huge relief at having succeeded in ending the ordeal of
the captives. Without my saying so. everyone in the um understood that ny
inaugural comments as commande, abou our need to become a fill special-
forces unit, were no longer a distant wish. Still. T kuew this was only one step.
and 1 wanted to make sure we kept our feet on the ground. The day after the
Subena reseie, Israch newspapers devoted ieres of newsprnt (0 how the
operation had succeeded. Since Sayeret Matkal's existence was still an official
secret. the headline writers called us, variously, a “special” unit. a “select” unit
and even m one cise, becanse of our KI Al coveralls, “angels in white,” We did,
briefly, celebrate hack al the suyerel base. But is with every other operation, we
went through a self-critical assessment of what we could have done better. Tow,
if we hud to do anather hostae-rescue operation, could we make sure none of
the passengers was haned? How could we improve co-ordination umong he
assault leas? And mininiize the risk of shooting each other. Why had I, as
commander of the operation. had to wait for someone ¢fse to suggest the idea of
disguising ourselves as airerafl Ieelmicians? And why had we Fiked 10 rin
with Bereuas and other pistols as well as Ukzis?
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They were nol just academic issues. Tven if we were never again called upon
to fee a hijacked airplane, [assumed we would fice other operations which
were equally urgent, without the weeks or even months of preparation we'd
always insasted on in the pst
orn
Aller the Sabena operation, [emphasized the need for us 10 be proactive. It
wouldn't be up to us to decide which operations to do. But it 1sas up to us to
tuke the initiative m identifymy and onderstunding specific threats and framing
watys in which we cond provide « response, Fven before Sabena, barely two
weeks had gone by when [ didn’t go to Eli Zeira, who was in charge of the
operations department of military intelligence, with a mission which 1 felt
contin we were teudy lo vey out. Sever] of the most complex eontered on
the new threat posed by Palestinian groups in Lebanon. Before the civil wer in
Jordan. King Ilussein had accused Facah, the PFLP and the equally militant
Democratic Front for the 1.iberation of Palestine of frymy to create “a state.
within a state” and deliberately weakening bis government. Now, they were
doing nruch the same in Lebanon. Their headquarters buildings in southern
Beirut were spawning hijackings or terror attacks. From bases in southern
Lebanon, the Palestinians wore also firing Katyusha rockets into Israel
One of the operations T planned targeted Arafat. From our intelligence
intercepts. we knew that a day or two after a particularly intense clash with
Israeli artillery units on the Lebanese border, he would four the urea sud meet
with his commanders. Tf we were going to go aller him, however, we needed to
know exactly when he was coming. Formunarely, the Lebanese authorities
feacked Arafal’s motoresde on these “review the oops” excursions, reporting
hove many cars were involved, which oe lie was in, and their progress. Thanks
to previous sayeret missions. we could listen in. In order to ensure the operation
would be on aur terms, [ propased that a couple of days before we planned to
move, Lsracli artillery target a Fatah rocket site in an isolated acca about tea
miles from the border, where there was just a single road in from Beirut. 1
prapased landing several teams by helicopter the night before. We would lie in
wait mt] the Lebimese army checkpoints reported thal the Falah convoy wis on
its way. Tsraeli helicopters and T-1 jets would then cut off the road on both.
sides, and we wonld ambush Arafat's veel.
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When T wok the plan to Eli Zeire, he was reading an issuc of the Freach
newsmagazine | Zixpress and snacking on salted almonds from a dish on his
desk, As 1 can through the reason we'd come up with the plan the boureoning
power of Arafat and Fauah in Lebanon — he peered al me over his reading
glasses and nodded. As [set out the details of the attack plan, he listened, with
10 abvious sign of approval or rejection. But after I'd finished, he dismissed ic
out of hand. Ie said that Arafat was no longer the battlefield commander whose
forces had fought Israel in Karameh, “116° fat 116s political > be said. “Lie is
not a target for this kind of operation,”
After the Sabena hostage-rescue, Dado and the other senior officers in the
Kirva did seem more receplive Lo on ying lo initiate operations, especially the
plan to seize Syrian officers and trade them for the Tscaeli pilots. But such a
‘mission required not just military or intelligence upproval. Dayan, and possibly
Golda as well, would have 10 sign off. and there was litle immediate sign of
that. But, once again, events on the ground would fosee the issue. Early on the
morning of June 9. cur intelligence intercepts gave us notice that the next day, a
ronp of senior Syrian officers was omy fo make an inspection visit io he
eastern part of the Lebanese border arca with Iseacl. We would have to move
quickly. Within the space of 12 hours, we'd need to plan the attack, organize,
caquip snd brief the assault leans, mike the three-andei-tiali-honr drive north,
and ecoss into Lebanon.
Still, T was determined 1o ry. which marked the start of twa of my most
frustrating weeks as Sayeret Viatkal commander. The place where we planned
to abduet the Syrians was an arca knew personally: the sparsely scitled strip of
land where Lebanon, Syria and Tsrael met, not fac from where I'd helped
“capture” several Syrian villages on the final day of the 1967 war. With the
convoy expected to pass through the nest moming, we crossed the border a Hite
before midnight on June 9. We lay in ambush in dense vegetation a few meters
off a curve in the road. further reducing the time tae Syrians would have to react
ance they sw us. [stationed two other sayerct leas a ew hundred yards sway
in cither dircetion, so they could cut off the road onee we attacked.
But as the convoy was approaching, T was suddenly contacted by the sayeret
officer we'd stationed in the command post back in [sracl, He relayed n message
from Motta Gur, the head of the northern command. Jis intelligence unit suid
there was a Lebanese Army checkpoint a quarter-mile from the ambush site.
Mota lrimsel (was m the south, wiih Dado, watching a tink exercise. So |
had no way of talking to him. 1 replied through the officer in the command post.
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“Tell Mola we know about it.” [said. “We've planned for it. 1's not a
problem” 1 figured there were at most four or five Lebanese soldiers manning
the checkpoint, The las thing they'd want to do is et invalved in a firefight
between us ind the Syrisms. But Motia’s reply was unequivocal. The mission
was off.
When we'd climbed through a bramble-filled ravine back into Israel. Tlefta
messige for Motta. [found it hard to chsguise my frustration, and my anger, at
being ordered w ehort the aitack. specially iter my assurances that the
Lebanese roadblock was not a problem. Yet when we got back to the sayeret
base, | realized there was more to his veto than I'd thought, He and Dado had
recived intelligence saying te Syrians wore likely to make w serics of further
inspection tours of the border area, so this would not be our last chance. The
next day, we received word they’d be touring the western part of the border an
June 13. On the Lebanese side. it was koown as Ras Nagoura. on ours as Rosh
Tlanirkea, where the Mediterranean coastline rose dramatically w a ridge and.
once ino Istael. sloped steeply down apain toward Ilaifa.
Ltook m two mein assault teams, one led by Mookie, the other by Uzi
Dayan. We hid in a tangle of bushes about halfway along the road which
climbed up toward the border ridge. 1 stationed Bibi and his team at the bottom
of the rod. equipped with Uris and rocket-propelled grenade kumehers, We
waited, knowing that we'd be abl 10 see the convoy as it twisted its way up
toward us. Again. [ had no direct link to Motta. Yet both he and Dado were
following the mission from a commind past m northern Iseael. We were m
nearly real-fime contact through a sayeret officer, named Amit Ben-Hom, right
across the border.
A first vehicle appeared at around 10:30 in the morning. Bibi radioed us. It
wats a | ehanese amy armored ei with a smh machine-gun, 1 drove pst snd
Talted 130 eet on, at the point where ie road began ww climb. The two guys
inside took out a small table and a couple of chairs and began brewing up cotfes
on the side of the road. “All OK. | said when | radioed Amit to fell him, “Pre-
deployment.” The couvoy arrived twa hours later and began Lo climb. “We're
taking it.” T radioed Amit.
“Wait.” he replied. And us | kept pressing him for the final go-ahead, another
30 seconds passed.
“Nat approved,” he finally barked back at me, clearly wanting to make sure I
got the messiige.
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“What the hell is going on?" T replied, in a mix of a shout and a whisper,
since [ knew the convoy was geting closer. But within a minute, we spotied the
lead 1.and Rover, which was soon past us on the way up to the ridge. It was
followed by tor large Amica cans, with the Syrian officers, and then i
tailing security vehicle. IL was 100 Jae. was fuming. The convoy had passed
within a couple of yards of us, moving slowly because of the incline. But,
segaining my composure, [realized we'd get another upportunity, when the
alficers returned from ther inspection visit. We now kuew exactly how the
convoy was deployed, and with any Tuck, the security men would be less alert
by the end of the day, Even better, it would be beginning; to yet dark, perfect
conditions for the ambush.
But as we were wailing, Amit radioed me with a question [rom Irom Dado
and Motta. “Where's the armared ear?” It's still there, at the bottom of the road,
Tiold them. “But theres nothing it ean do.” Bibi and bis team had it in theic
sights. T considered aot telling Amit what happened a few minutes later: a
Lebanese shepherd, with a halt dozen sheep. stumbled on us. One of Uzi's men,
fern fn Arabic, ed the startled man’s arms behind his back, seaticred the
sheep. and told him: “11's fine. Another hour or so, we'll be gone, and we'll let
You go.” It turned out to be less than an hour. Forty-five minutes. During which.
not one bul twice, Amit fold us that Dado snd Mott were wormed: shoul the
armored car aud now about the shepherd. 1 assured hin everything was fine.
We'd do the operation. The guys in the armored car would be helpless. If all
went well, they might not even know we'd intercepted the convay. The
shepherd, like us, was just waiting for iL 10 be over so we could all go homme.
Minutes later. Amit called again. ITe told us the convoy was on its way down.
But barely 60 seconds later. hie said: “Its off. Don’t do it. Dada told me to
repeat i twice $0 you'd understand: do nor do the operation,”
When we got back to the command post. not only were Dado and Motta
there. Since Motea was within days of leaving to become Israels military
attaché fn Washington, they'd been joined by his successor as head of the
noctheen command, Yitzhak of. Three times, [suggested 1o Dado that we
speak without my officers present. 1 did not feel it was right to have Uzi.
Mookie and Bibi hear me the generals how | felt. But Dado insisted there was
20 reason for them w leave:
“This is a serious issue.” I said. trying to keep my emotions in check. “What
happened out there is uniceeptable. An effective specia-forces unit cannot
operate this way. For the second Lime ina week, you've made us stop an
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aperation. Both limes. it was a0 operation that we, the ones who have to do it,
Kaew could succeed. Au operation on which the fate of three Iscacli pilots
depends. One of whom we know personally, and have worked with, Now, agin,
with no veal reason, you've stopped is. | sec this is o brech of rs,” When
acither Dado nor Mola replied, [went on: “1 have to tell you openly. You can't
possibly judge the situation on the ground. Only we can. And you're behaving
as if you Anew. You can’t know from here. There was no reason for us not lo
grab those officers. [ don’t want to reach a point when [have to start thinking
about what to report back, or not report, just to make sure we're free fo
complete a mission that you ordered, after agreeing it was necessary for [srael.”
Noone said anything for a ow momen. | coukd see thal Uz, Mookic and
Bibi were shocked au having heard me speak in this way 10 three of the top.
communders of the armed forces. But { meant every ward, If Sayeret Matkal
wes to function as a special-lorces uni. il needed to have the trust of those
who'd authorized an opecation in the first place. Tt was Dado who finally
replied. Sort of. Trying to defuse the teasion, he told us a joke from his Palmach
days. “There are two bulls who come info a field full of cows. A young one wd
ald one. The young one says to the old guy: lets sun aver thee to the far end of
the field. where the prettiest cow is. and we can fuck her. The old bull replies:
“Nomeed to rush. |et’s go slowly, and fuck them all.”
guess we were meant Lo be the young bulls
T doubt Dado knew whether we'd get a third chance at the Syrian officers.
though I'm sure he haped so. A weel later, we got word there would be a final
inspection visit, lo the central sector of the border area. Oudinarily, {would live
led the operation. Novw. I made an exception. To Dado’s abvicus surprise, I
decided to remain behind, in the command post. “A commander has ta be in the
host phice fo ensure a mission is sncecssfilly compleled.” 1 old him. “ve
come 1 the conclusion the only way J can do that is 10 be here with you
Because the real bottleneck isn't out there in the field. It's here,”
[placed Yoni, who had just become my deputy, m overall command of the
two main teams: Uzi Dayan’s and another led by one of our most impressive
young officers. a kibbuezaik named Danny Bronaer. lle reminded me a lot of
Nechemia Cohen: he spoke little, and softly, but ance an operation began was
calm, clear minded and ble anticipate and ivoid trouble befor it
materialized. Two other teams. one led by Mookie Betzer and the other by Shai
Agmon, would act as blocking sits, concealed halemike on either sue, ane
the main foree intercepted the convoy. We chose a spot across [rom the Isrecli
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moshay of Za'acit. We equipped Yoni's force with a pair of Land Rovers in
Lebanese army eolors and had them hide overnight in the moshay’s orchards, a
hundred yards from the road on the I ¢hanese side of the frontier, The next
snormng, when swe got confimustion the convoy was on ils way, they crossed
and stationed themselves on the road. lifted the hood of voe of’ the vehicles and
nade as if they were trying to repair engine trouble. Both the blocking forces
were in hal tracks with heavy machine-guns in case the convoy chose to stand
and fight
‘What we didn’t count on was a Lebanese driver. ina VW Beedle as I recall,
pustermyz along the roud shortly after Yoni’s teum crossed, The man waved at
them. Quite rightly, Yomi let him dvive on. Along with the other obvious reasons
not 10 fire on a civilian VW, he didn’t waa to alert the Syrians and theic busts
there was danger ahead. But the .ebanese motorist, as well as a group of nearby
farmers, were suspicious enough to deliver a warning that there were a couple
ol stalled Laud Rovers on the side of the road. The convoy halied shortly aller
passing Mookies farce, hidden in a field a few dozen vards away.
Had 1 mot been in the command post, Fim pretty sure whit would have
Tappened next. The mission would have been called off. This time, 1 was the
one in direct contact with all three teams. Even betore [ gave the order, Yoni
had anticipated at, He and Uzi med west fo confront the convoy, In a brief:
initial exchange of gunfire, one of Us men was wounded, not seriously, in the
leg. But with Mookie's team [iring {rom behind and Youi's and Uzi’s mea in
front, the convoy was trapped, and the Syrians captured.
The safest way back into Ismael would have been the way the force isd
entered. But Yoni and Uzi realized the main imperative was to get the Syrians
out as quickly us possible. At a not-inconsiderable cost to a pair of American
Imonsines, Uz drove cach of them, with a total of five Syrian officers, throngh
a boulder-strewn field across the border.
The Syrians included three senior members of the Operations Department of
the General Stuff, and two from Aur Farce intelligence. Israel mude an
immediate ofTer to swap them for our pilots, though how enthusiastically T'm
not sure. With this kind of leverage on our side, it seemed unlikely the Syrians
would da further harm to our pilots. Our intelligence officers were keen fo get
every bil of formation they conld before sending the Syrians home. I would
be a year later before the exchange was done. Youi received a well-deserved
izalash Tor his wle in the mission.
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woe
Rarely two months after the umbush operation in south 1 ebanon, Black
September seized and murdered members of the Israeli lam at the 1972
Olympics in Munich.
As soon as the news broke on the moming of September 5, | phoned Arable
Yagiy as head of military intelligence. “You need to send us” 1 said. Cried 1o
persuade him that if it came down to an operation to free our hostages, Sayeret
Matkal offered the best hope that it would nat end m a bloodbath, We hid the.
sings, the background, the ining and now the experience, | also kaew the
German militacy had no specizl-forces unit. I'd have been even more worried il
[had known that Germun law barred the army from operating in peacetime,
That meant any nse of force would be left lo the police. Almahle told me it was
too carly 10 say what involvement, il any, Tsrael might have. Tle'd get back in
touch with a decision when it came.
1 called my officers together 10 begm planning, {decided 1o use the men who
Tad been with me for the Sabena mission, including Mordechai Rachamim. We
collated information from the stream of media reporcs from Munich and
assembled i rough dea of the layout of the buslding the ferrarists had attacked.
As for the anlackers, [said we had to assume there were al least hal -a-dozen,
that they had not just AK-175 but grenades or other explosives. And that like the
Sabena hijackers, they would be prepared ta die but hoping to live, All of that
fumed out 10 be trie. Nome of il, however, could alter the reply got from
Alrable a couple of hours later. “We decided wo send Zvika,” he said. Zvika
Zamir was the head of Mossad. and he would be going only as an observer. Any
apertion agans! he tervorisis wonld still he in The hands of German units.
The German polices bungled attempt lo end the ordeal was especially
painful because it was so predictable, 1 believe that if we sud been there, at least
some of the eleven Israelis lafled might not have lost their lives. The Germans.
launched an ambush at a NATO airfield outside Munich, when the terrorists and
hostages were ostensibly on their way to board a flight for Cairo. We know now
thst there was no properly co-ordinated plan. Toa few police were deployed for
the operation ‘Tey were insufficiently armed. aud they licked relevant (raining
or experience. The result: a bloodbath. As a final insult to the memory of the
murdered Tracts, although the three surviving lermarists were jailed, the
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German goveenment released them wo meet the demands of the hijackers of a
Lufthansa airliner the following mouth.
Added to Israeli public's shock over the massacre, there was anger at having
10 watch the murderers go free. In the weeks afierwards, | got occasional hints
that a sustained Isuacli response was underway, though | didn’t know the details.
[was not aware that it was Ahrahle, at the direction of Golda herself. who was
co-ovdmating it. Nor tht a special Mossid team was at the center of the
aporstion. Yet from news reports of series of atlacks on suspected leaders of
Black September, I, and most Israelis, assumed we were determined to convey a
‘message which the Germans had not: that terror killings of the sort perpetrated
in Munich would not go wanswered.
[1 was not until late 1972 that | knew the [ull seale of the operation. We had
no formal ties with the Massad, but our intelligence work occasionally
overlapped. tn mid-December, the sayerer’s intelligence hason was approached
with a “theoretical question” by a couple of guys from the Mossad. Did we have
the capability to attack three separate flats in a pair of apartment buildings in
Beirut. sent back my preliminary answer a few dys biter. | sand it was
possible. But there was no way | could say for sure without more information.
Would the people in the apartments be armed? Were there guards outside? Was
there a caretaker or concierge? Was there only or way in to the buildings, or
also rear entrances? Would we be able to got # plan of the interior of the
apariments?
In another manth, they came up with most af the answers, The buildings
were fairly new. with ghassedein lobby areas wd concierges. The Mossad men
also gave us a fairly detailed layout of two of the three apartments. They did not
know whether there were back entrances, They thought it was likely there were
bodyguards, or at least some scourity dela! posted ouside. As for fhe people
living in the partments, all of them were likely 1 have at least small arms.
Over the next week or so, we raised a series of other questions. Mainly, I
wanted to know whether they were sure the people we'd be looking for would
be au home. The Mossad officers said they were working on that, but were
confident of being able ro confirm this betore any operation happened. Though
they didn't identify the people fhey were targeting, [ had now leamed, through
Ahrabile aud others, what hid been prety obvious since the Mossid’s initial
approach. They were Palestinian leaders with ties to Black September. “I think
its possible,” 1 finally kd tien. “We'll piu. u plan in place. We can fhe the
arcangements if you come back and say you want us to do it”
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Nothing happened for several months. By the early spring of 1973, with my
two-year term as sayerel commander winding dowa, I assunied the operation
had been vetoed. | could understand why, As we warked on aur plan, it had
become clear that gelling ino the hen of the | chimese capiial, billing the
apartments and getting out again without starting a minor wav would be by far
the most difficult mission we had atrempted. T did not doubt chat Sayeret Matkal
alfered the best ehance of success. But it wouldu’t be casy. | figured that
whosser was making the decision had come 10 the same conclusion.
Twas on a weekend away with Nava and Michal in the Red Sea resort of
ilat when this suddenly began to move, At around noon on Saturday. | ot
call from Valil’s deputy in the Riva. “hud” he seid, “we need you back here
2s 5000 as possible.” When T asked why, he said: “You remember how you were
approached by someone with same questions, «nd you went buck to them with a
list of other questions for them to answer?”
Ltold Nava Id been summoned 10 a meeting at the chief-of-stafl™s oflice —
the kind of call of dury that both of us were now used to and grabbed the first
commercial flight north. It got the the kirva carly in the evemng, and joined 4
meeting that wes already well underway. Dado was in his usual seat on te
right-hand side of the table he used for staf discussions, flanked by Talik
Across from them was Manna Shaked, the officer who had phoned me fo tell
me about the Sabena hijacking and who had now succeeded Raful Litan as
katchor, overall chief of the infantry and paratroopers. Beside him were the two
Mossad officers with whom ['d bad mast of my dealings about Beirut, They
were all saring at an werial photo of the Lebanese capital, with mn arca marked
in blue pen around a street called Rue Verdun
Tentered and took one of the remaining chairs. Gesauring toward the image
of Barut, Dado fumed to me. “Do you know this place?” he asked. Yes, [suid
I'd seen the photo. Nodding toward the Mossad men, said: “These two ofTicers
showed if to me.”
“10 you hve an idea how fo do fais operation” 1 told him that we didn’t
have a fully detailed operational plan. But 1 said we’d looked into the problems
we'd face. “We believe we can da it.” When he asked how, I outlined the
approach we'd settled on: a small force, thirteen men, plus two from Mossad fo
ct as drivers. We would need the Mossad men lo go lo Bei ahead of ws, and
tent a pair of nice American cars, the kind typical tourists would use. We'd land
an the waterfront, well south of the most bili-up parts of the eity coastline, wd
meet up with the rental cars. When we reached the apartment blocks, three
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aroups of three nien each would take care of the apartments. Four more would
remain outside to deal with ie coneierges or security guards oe any other
interference, and © command and co-ordinate, We'd leave the same way we
came in, by sci.
Dado nodded. | found out later that he'd asked the same question of Mano,
who had proposed a classic regular-army raid. They would block the road with
ten armed paritroopers on each end with the wim of holding off resistance, while
another Iwo dozen went in to the apartments and auacked. | could only assume
Dada concluded tha this almost certainly wouldn't work, at least not without
mitjor trouble. 1t would certainly forfeit any chance of surprise.
“The mission is yonrs.” he said. “Manno will be in overall command,
offshore. Because we re also planning to hit several other targers.”
The reason for the urgent summons was that the Mossad had confirmed all
thee Palestinians would he iu their spartments in 10 days” time. Everyone
involved realized that — given its complexity, the obvious risks, and the
inevitable unknowns fhe operation could well go wrong, In fact, one reason
far Dado’s “other targets” was to ensure that if it did, there would be successes
elsewhere 10 provide a credible justification for having seat Israeli forces into
Beirut. As we received further intelligence, new obstacles had to be factored in.
“The main ane was the presence of u gendarmerie, a | ehanese police post, at the
bottom end of the street, only S00 Reet or so from the partments. And we would
be operating in a crowded. up-market residential area. We could only hope that
at the hour we struck, most people would be in bed. Or out partying, This was,
wiler all, pre-eivil war Beil, the “Paris of the Middle Fast”.
In the years since, an extraordinary array of stories has grown up around the
sayeret’s final and best-known mission during my term as commander,
culminating in the drematic version in Stephen Spiclberg’s movie Munich. |
remember reading in one earlier book. otherwise surprisingly accurate, about
our five weeks of intensive taining. Even the full 10 days which 1 thought we'd
been given would have been a banus. In fret, we had half that as a full team,
since our Mossad drivers, Curopean-born Tscaelis. had to make their way
through Paris to Beirut as tourists, rent the cars and scout out our route from the
seashore ta Rue Verdun
There were four ther operations plamed alongside ours: three hy paratoon
nits and one by the Shayerer 13 SEALS. against a series of Fatah and
Democratic Fron! mstalltions. Though all of them, hike ours, would need help
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from the SEALS in petting ashoce, only on cequired dircel co-ordination with
us. This was an attack va a DILP building a mile or 30 away in southern Beirut,
led by Amnon 1.ipkin, the friend whose unit had faced ane of the toughest
Fauitlos ul Kanunich. Ananon’s paramoop force would and with ns and also pile
ino Mossad rental cars. Our auachs would begin at the same time, with the
‘maximum prospect of retaining the advantage of surprise. When and if we both
completed the operations and got away safely, we would meet up again on the
seaffont.
From ou first meeting, the morning after Dada pave me the go-ahead. T
realized | would have to male at least one change to the plan to rely an fhe core
Sabon ten. Thre was no way, after his excision from the hijack rescue
mission, that T could refuse Yoni when be pressed to be included. T added him to
Moakie Betzer’s force, | put the other two utrack teams under a pair of young
officers named Amitai Nachmani and Zvika Gilad. Both were self-confident.
natural leaders. Both had other qualities T also knew we'd need: focus, and
cali. [ would take charee on the street outside the targeted apartments, along
with Amini 1evin, With us would be Dov Bar, a Shavetet 13 officer, und ow
medic, Shae! Kate.
In the hangar at the sayeret hase, we made mock-ups of the layout of the
apartments, using bedshects for the walls and adjustmg the dimensions as
further bits of intelligence came in from Mossad. But the real work involved
simulating the whole operation, fom the moment of our landing on jet-black
Tubber dinghies pilated by the SEALs. We found new building development
in north Tel Aviv with a pair of apstment blocks wnder construction. For wo
nights. we ran through the whole thing: setting ofTin the dinghies from a missile
boat off the Israeli coast before midnight, meeting up with our Mossad drivers
on shore, making our way through the center of Tel Aviv 10 the apamment
complexes and simulating the attack. T wanted w ensue we could pull off the
whole thing without anyone raising an alarm. The one problem came during the
sceond run-throngh. A poheemsn drove by as we were “alackig? the
apartments. Dado managed to convinee him that reporting us to his superiors
would not be an especially good idea
In our debriefing discussions after that exercise, Dado identitied 2 major
problem Ud overlooked. We would be entering Beirut diessed as civilians. Once
we gol 10 the top end of Rue Verdun, we planned to approach the apartments as
if we were party-goers returning from a night on the town, “It doesn’t look
sight,” Dado said. “More than a dozen party people walking, all men?” Mookie
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came up with Lhe solution, one that would have the unintended effect of
elevating vue mission fucther in [saci lore. The three least burly-looking of us
would ia in as women: boyish looking guy named I.onny Rafael, Amiram
Levan, and me.
Sill, there was another, potentially deeper concern that had yet w be
addressed. [n all sayeret missions, since the beginning, we knew we might end
up having to fight, shoot and, if necessary, kill. Yet now we would be going m
with the expectation of killing thie specific men. We had black-and-white
photos: Mohammed Youssef al-Najar, or Abu Youssef, an operations officer in
Black September; Kamal Adwan, ane of Arafat’s top military planners; and
Kamal Nasscr, a member of his leadership civele and his spokesmun.
Nominally. it wes understood we would seize them and bring them back to
Israel if possible. 1 had us exercise haw we'd da fhat. But none of us really
believed that once our teams made it jlo he apartments. the Palestinians would
surrender. We assumed we would have ao option but to kill them.
The killing was not the main issue. After all. Thad draven up a plan a year
cartier 10 target Arafat himself. Though no ane in the siyeret ook ny pleasure
iin having to take a life. at the cud of the day we were a part of the amy. Black
September, and Arafat's Fatah more broadly. were not only at war with the
existence of Israel, They were behind a campaign of terror, Certainly there was
no significant public opposition, afer the horror of Munich, 1 going afer those
who wete deemed 10 be part of the operational or political direction of Black
September, Our uneasiness mside the unit, however, revolved around what I'd
extolled as ils “spirit” when | became commander. Beyond all the specific
qualities we needed w succeed in our operations, our image of ousselves was as
thinting, soldiers. We might sometimes find it necessary ta kill, but we were not
killers.
As | explained to cach of the men 1'd be leading on the operation, the
Mossad, Dado, and ultimately Golda had concluded that these three men were
appropriate largets in the wake of Munich, As i battshon-level commander, |
did not feel {was in 2 position to challenge their judgement, wafess we had heen
ordered to carry cut an attack that was clearly improper or immoral. In that case,
would have rio besttation in refusing. [sid 1 viewed what we were being
asked lo do in Bein not as an act of revenge, but a deterrent. H was a way of
leaving no doubt in the minds of potential future terrorists that massacres like
Munich carmied a heavy price.
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The more difficult question for some in the wail was how we were delivering
that message: breaking into apartments in the middle of the night. Yes, cach of
he men was almost sure 10 be armed, But these flats were their homes, Very
Hilly, mienbirs of thei Gambics would be Lese. IF he operation went as
planned, it was hard to imagine how aay of the men would have a chance of
surviving. My answer was that ideally we would face them on a battlefield. Yet
given the nature of Black September, (hat was nol going to happen. Mossad was
sight to conclude this was the valy way to isolate and attack them.
Tor Amitai Nachman, who would be leading the attack ou one of the
apartments, my words were nof enough, Twice, he came to see me. 11 was nat
hat he didn’y ust or respect me as his commande, he said But befor kading
his team into Beirut, he needed to satisfy himsell that the people we weee
attacking, and the way we were attacking them, bad been properly thought
through by the people giving the orders. T told him T understood. T did not tel
him that T was ectually proud of him for asking — which, although I'm sure he
sensed if, was an omission I regretted when he lost his life in the Sinai Desert a
Rew months later. Bi | did po sce Dado. 1 old im what Amitai had said. He
needed no evavincing when [urged him to address the entire Beirut team and
answer their questions at our final planning meeting. Ie did so, explaining how
and why the decison to large! these three Palestinians bid been reached, to the
satisfaetion of Amitai aud the others.
We set offby missile boat from Thaifa on the afternoon of Apel ninth. To my
reef, since 1 suffer from scasickness, the Mediterrancan was calm as we
headed west lowards Cyprus, before circling back in the direction of the
Lebanese coast alter aightfall. Tran through the plan a final time with cach
member of the team and then joined Amiram and Lonay in wansforming
ourselves ws best we could into credible dates for the evening. 1'd vetoed dresses.
or high heels, in Favor of fared slacks and flats. We used standard-issu army
sacks to pad out our bras. The Mossad had recruited a volunteer fiom a Tel
Aviv beauty parlor 10 help us with on hpstick, blue eyeliner and eye shadow.
The final touch was our wigs. Amicam and Lonny were blondes. I wenl as
stylish brunette.
I'm reluctant to take issue with the Spielberg version of events, if only
because hie had my part played by someone undeniably belle looking tha |
was, even as a 31-year-old. But in Munich, we ace shown zooming into a
crowded harbor area on Ine of motor boats, chnging mto drag only ance
we've sprinted ashore, opening fie on a dockside kiosk and shooting our way
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iio town like something out of the wild west. [Tad any of that happened, we
would have started a small-scale wae, not ww mention run the very real risk of
not getting out alive,
In fet, we lei the missile boat, Mamas offshore command post, in motor
dinghies out of carshot of Beivut and cut the engines as we got closer to the
shore. All of us, including the “women”, were wrapped in ponchos to avoid
showmy up on Rue Verdun sonking wet, After gottmg out of the dinghies, we
were earied ashore by the SEALS to make sure we stayed dry. All of us had
Ioose-fiting jackets. The attack teams used them ro conceal Uzis, explosive
charges fo blow the locks on the partment doors if they couldn't be forced
apn, & hind grenade or two nd Mashlights for the dash up the stairs. One
‘member of each loam had 2 lacge plastic bag, with orders 10 Lake away any
easily accessible documents for Mossad analysts back home. As the mather of
ihe brood. Tals had a large purse, in which I carried our radio lo communicate
with the team leaders and with Manno on the missile boat if necessary.
Our SEAT pilots steered us well away from the more built-up part of the
seafront towards the Coral Beach, ong of the private elubs on the southern end
of the shoreline. our tented station wagons were wailing, two of ten for us
and two for Amnon’s squad. Amnon set off toward the DFLP target. We headed
north towards the center of town, In the Spielberg film, my speaking role
consistod of two words, my use, as | introduced mysell lo my driver. In fact,
we had already met: during the run-through exercises in Tel Aviv. Alter we got
into the cars, | asked him how his scouting of the route had gone. He said
Basically OK. bul that he’d noticed a couple of cops pairolliug near the lop of
Verdun on oue of his deive-bys. T assured hint it would be fine. There would be
1 reason for a policeman to suspect what we were up to, or who ye were. Still,
Teonld tell he wis nervous. “What's wrong?” Lasked. He hesitated before
replying. “T've never been in a place where there's live fire?” he said. Told him
not 10 worry. [le sei wouldn't be. “You're going 10 be parked around the
comer, unl it's over. Then, its just hou! gelmg home.”
When we reached the top of Verdun, it was aboul en minutes afier one in
the morning. Our cars pulled over. T wok Mookie's arm as we began walking
the 150 feet or so to the first of the apartment buildmgs. The others followed in
Knots of twa or three. Buth Mookie and | saw a policeman approaching on the
sidewalk. “Ignore him,” I whispered. We weaved a few inches to the side to let
him pass. The butldings were us we'd expected, with their lobbies set buck from
a covered terrace in fronu As the other teams made their way Lo the second
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building, T stayed with Mookie. [Tis job. along with Yoai in his expanded team,
wes 0 deal with Abu Youssef, the Black September operations officer. The
concierge must have been on i cotfee break, The Tobby was empty, The door
wars unlocked, so they sprinted wird the micrior staircase snd inade their way
up.
Advan, the Fatah military man, and Kamal Nasser lived next door. Adwan,
Amitai’s target, was on the second floor, Nasser wis on the third, As the teams
raced inno the other building, Amiram and | posted ourselves near ove of the
terrace pillars, occasionally exchanging a tew words of what we hoped would
pass as gir talk, ‘The SEAL officer and Dr Katz were near the top end of the
street as lookouts. We seemed seconds away from what bid all the makings of
the operation we'd rehearsed back in Tel Aviv. The one major problem I'd
expected security guards posted outside hadn’t materialized. We'd been told
by the Mossad to look out for a grey Mercedes, but it wasn't there.
I'he next stage was for cach team leader Lo press the wansmit bution three
times on his radio. When I'd heard from all of them, 1 would send a signal back.
Then, it the count of five, cach of them was supposed to sturt fhe stuck.
Mookic’s signal came first. Yel before cither of the other two teams checked in,
the trouble began. Suddenly, the door of a red Renault tlew open almost directly
across the street from where Amirum and | were standin, A full, sturdy, dark-
Tired man climbed ow. He looked across al us. He opened his leather jacket.
Tle pulled out a pistol and started to approach us. “Zin breirah,” T whispered wo
Amram, “No chore.” Ta this diy, | remember the shock on the man’s fice us
he watched us — a pair of 30sometbing women — open our jackets sud pall out
Usis. Fortunately for him. we'd had to make allowances for concealment in
choosing our weapons. We'd left the Uzis” stabilizing shoulder braces behind.
As ow inst shots hil, he bud hal-tumed 1o run. Though wounded, be somehow
got back in Lhe car. We kept shooting bul he managed wo drag himself out of the
far door and roll behind a waist-high wall on the other side of the street. One of
our shots obviously hil the electrical imands of the Renault, because the car
horn began blaring full-blast, as if someone had sel off a modern-day car alacm.
So mich for the element of surprise.
I saw three sets of lights suddenly come on in the otherwise dark apartment
buildings. They were in the [ats that Mossad had identified. Al least thal par of
the plan was intact. These were the Palestinians we were after, and it seemed
they were at home. Seconds lufer, [ heard un explasion. [t was fram Abu
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Youssel's apaciment, the one Mookie and Yoni had been assigned. Then, bursts
of gunfire (com the other building.
A Land Rover was approaching from the gendarmerie at the bottom of the
road. We waited mil it was abont 50 feel sway. Amirem and [opened fire, then
Dov and Slmuel Katz ag well. The driver lst contol and erashed into the side
of the Renault. There were at least four policemen inside. They, tao, rolled
behind the wall on the far side of the street. Usmy the terrace columns for cover,
we kept shooting. Within w minute or so, only a couple of the cops fired back.
Though the three Palestinians could not know the reason for the punfire and
the wailing of the car horn, they were now on their guard, When Mookie had
Blown open the doar to Abu Yousser"s flat — and he, Yoni and the other two
members of his team ran into the apartment — he saw the Black September man
peering aut from the bedroom. Mookie raised his Uzi but the Palestinian ducked
insicle nel shut the door. All four of them fired through through the door. When
they went in, they found not only Abu Youssel but his wile, both dead. When
Zvika’s team burst in on Kamal Nasser, he. too, was ready, Crouching behind a
desk, hi raised an automatic pistol and fired, grazing one of the team on the leg
Bul in a burst of Uzi bullets, he, wo, was killed.
I suspect that Amitai’s face-to-face meeting with Dado may have saved his
life, When hie and his team comered Kamal Adwan, he bad an AK-47 raised and
seudy 10 fire. Withow even a split second’s umeonscious hesitation, Anita fired
first. 1fis only regret afterwards was thar Adwan’s wife and children saw it
happen, and that when they'd blasted open the apartment door, the force blew
apn the door of a nearby Ma, Killing sn elderly Hakan worn. She bid been
one of the Mossads sources of information on the Beirut apartments.
Mookie's team came down first. They joined us, crouching behind the
columns, as sporadic shots continued fram one of the policemen behmd the wall
across the street. When a second police Land Rover approached, T at first
signaled the others to let it pass. But when it suddenly accelerated toward us, we
opened fire, It swerved, crashing inta the rear bumper of the offer one,
The other teams were back down now. I shouted for Dov 10 have the drivers
bring the station wagons from around the corner. When we began to pull away,
athind palice Land Rover appeared. It sped up behind us. Mookie tossed back a
grenade. The last thing | saw as we made it 10 the end of the block and headed
toward the seafront was the front end of the vehicle exploding. We dropped
hollow, needle-sharp spikes onl the window of the ear as we left, so | knew that
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any other pursuing vehicl would be in no shape to follow for very long. Bul we
still had to avoid trouble on our wey back out. T knew it would be a risk to go
buck ta the Coral Beach, so we ook the shartest route to the sea, straight out to
the Cormier, the city’s min avenue slong the Mediteruncan. As we pol closer,
we could hear gunfire. Obviously. the police, and the Palestinian militias,
realized something was not right. The advantage we had was that they would
lave uo idea what liad happened on Rue Verdun, who we were, or where we
were going.
No sooner had we joined the Corniche than T saw another police Land Rover
about 200 yards ahead of us, This one hud a spotlight on the roof, panning both
sides of the roud. Cold the driver to slow down. About 100 vars or so laler,
seaching the place where we’d arranged for the SEAL to meet us, he and the
other statin wagon pulled over ta the side of the road. The 1.and Rover kept
driving. We slid down a steep embankment nearly 30 feet 1 the sea. Two of the
three assaul teams had bags (ull of documents as well. We swam out io the
dinghies. When we had hoisted ourselves in. we headed out at first by paddle,
then tnder engine power, to the missile boat. he whole operation had taken
about a half a0 hour, ouly 10 minutes on Rue Verdun.
I radioed Manno on the way to the missile boat. A half-dozen words: the
agreed code phrase for “mission accomplished, trgets achieved,” 1 could hear
selief in his voice when le replied. Al firs, 1 assumed thal was because they
hadn't heard from us during the operation. Our radio link t the missile boat had
gone down when we entered the built-up area around the partment blocks.
Genuinely, despite Manno’s suspicion thal 1°d cut the connection. Yet he had
ather reasons Lo exhale when he heard we had got out safely. Amnon’s team had
hiad a much tougher time. They met resistance from the moment they arrived at
the DFLE building. wo of his men were killed, another wounded. They set ofl
thei explosive charges. but had to fight their way out. They valy barely
managed to escape, carrying their fallen comrades with them and linking up
with another eum of SEAL nea the Coral Beach.
wea a liule before six in the moving when | got home. | was careful nol
wake Nava. I'd changed out of my slacks and flats and surrendered my wig on
the missile baat. But 1 didn’t have the encrigy to deal with my makeup. The next
hing {remember was my wife standing by our hed us {stirred awake around
noon the next day. She looked at my eve makeup and lipstick, shook her head.
and smiled. She didn’t need to ask where 1°d been. Iscacl radio had been full of
news about a major operation in Beicul
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PEE
A fen weeks later, my term us commander ended. The handover to my
successor. Giora Zorea, Lured but 10 be more elaboras than my acrival, though
not at my instigation. With both Talik and Avraham in attendance, Dado
presented me with my fiih izafash. 1 was not for Beir. Nol for the operation
against the Syrian officers, or the unprecedented access our intelligence
missions were providing info Egypt's military communications. Dado said it
was for all of the abave. And not just for leading the unit of which 1'd been a
part almost from the start. 1 was for my pert in bringing it Ww maturity. When |
replied. Tam suce everyone knew [ was speaking from the heart in saying that
my every moment with Sayeret Marka had been a privilege. And that this latest
commendation was an award for the achievements the whole sayerel
Dado did me another good turn. As my stint as commander drew 10 an cod, T
Kaew what I hoped to do next in the army: to use my tuk training to work my
way up The conmuund chin in the amore comps. Bul like pest sayeret
comianders. it was assunied | would ficst spend Lime at the US Marine Cops
staff college in Quantico, Virginia. Thad other ideas. I wanted to exercise other
parts of my mind, by doing postgrduile work a § normal Ameen imiversily.
Dado agreed
Tstill had to get accepted. The first step was to take the post-graduate entry
exam, the GRE. There were two parts to it, The first involved mathematics and
abstract thinking. the second English bnguage. 17 my fae had rested on my
English grade, I'd have ended up at Quantico. T finished in the 28” percentile.
But in the other pare, 1 was in the 99.6" percentile. 1 applied to four universities
Hevird, Yale, MIT and Sum ford. Amazangly, | got accepted by ull of them. |
chose Stanford, mainly because it allowed a far greater latitude in choosing my
program of study. Also, the weather.
In carly August 1973, Navi and [joined my parents and hers on a simny.
allemoon in Mishmar Hasharon to celebrate Michal's third bisthdsy and say
goodbye. We were heading to Palo Alto. California. with every expectation of
two years of mtellectual sumulation, new fiends, new experiences and
something approximating a more wormal Gamily life. My “other” family, the
[smaeli army. also had reason to believe a period of new possibilities lay ahead.
The threat of terror remained, of course. There had also been 4 brief bow of
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nerves over military maneuvers by Anwar Sadat few weeks earlier. But that
had come to nothing. Tn ao small part due to the success of Lhe raid on Rue
Verdun, Israel’ generals believed the balince of strength and security was on
our side und that, wt feast for a while, Tsmuel could breathe a bit more easily.
Bul we were all about to be proven spectacularly wrong.
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Chapter Nine
“The phone rang in our apartment in Pala Allo at 4:30 wm the morning, We bid
been in the US for barely six weeks. Tt was the Sixth of October 1973: Yom
Kippur, the holiest date on the Jewish calendar. Iwas still a bit groggy trom the
night before. We hid been aut ut a geteto-knawsyou event for some of the
several dozen Tsraelis, and several hundred American Jewish students, at
Stanford. While I only vaguely recognized the vaice on the other end of the line,
her wards instantly jolted me wake; “The boss is busy,” she suid. “But he
wants you lo kuow. A wir has stavicd back home.”
ler boss was Matta Gur, who was by now Israel's military attaché in
Washingran and was my nominal commander for my period in the United
States, “1 need Lo talk to Mott,” | said. She passed him the phone. “1 want you
to know I'm going back.” 1 told him. Motta’s reply took my mind back 15
months, to our on-ageain-off-again mission to abduct the Syrian officers, with
Motta ind Dado in the command post, inlent an reining in the “young bulls” of
the sayeret. “Ehud,” he said. “from whar I'm hearing, 1 don’t think we are
missing a major war.”
“What's this we?” [suid Motta was a general, at the upper reaches of the
armed forces, officially posted lo Washington. 1 was a young officer, just
starting to work my way up the chain of field command. “I can’t atford to miss
even a nor-major war,” | said, “Ill check in with you when [ et to New York *
“Major” would Lum out Lo be, if anything, au understatement. Yet all { knew,
as Tkissed Nava and Michel goodbye and got a cab to San Francisco airport,
wis hit bore wars agin at war, Ry the time | jomed the swarm of Iseaclis
wound the El Al desk at Kennedy cight hours luler, the pietire was clearer, and
more worrying with each new report from back home. Surprise attacks by Syria
and Egypt armies we'd not just defeated, but humiliated, six vears earlier
had pinned down ind pushed bik our forces on the Golan Heights and in The
Sinai. Without any advance call-up. many reservists were only now reaching the
front lines.
As hundreds of people pressed for sears an the F1 Al flight, 1 was fortunate to
receive a boost up the pecking order from another mau in line. Since the Sabena
operation, the existence of Sayeret Matkal had become a bit less secret. Still. the
identity of the sayeret commander was known 10 just a few people outside the
nit. So skittish were the army security people that before I'd left for Stanford.
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they even insisted T change my name. Twas no longer Ehud Brog. I'd
Tebraicized it: to Barak, which seemed near enough 1o the ariginal. Among the
few dozen outside the unit who did know about my Tale, however, were
praraiioupens who'd jomed ws on virions missions. One of Them now old the El
Al people who 1 was. Not only was [ given a seat on the first ovecaight plane
back to Tel Aviv. I found myself helping the airline establish a priority for
assiguing seats Lo others: first, active officers in fighting units: armor. infantry,
the air Force. Then, reservists, with the cphasis on those who'd seen active
service most recently.
As we were waiting to board. I phoned Lizi Dayan and asked him to meet me
wi Lod the next moming. Then | called Motta again. “Ehud” he suid, with no
trace of irony, “il is an extremely serious war. Syrian tanks ace getting close Ww
the auter fences of Nafakh™ aur main command post on the Golan, “Good
Tuck.
Usd was waiting for me when we landed. Walking to bis ear, we ran iow two
reserve armored officers who had also just arrived home. They expected to be
sent noth, to help beat back the Syrian advance. When they asked me where |
thought ['d be going. 1 said, truthfully, {had no idea. “Wherever | ean help,” [
said. Uzi drove us to the Aur, the bunker built two tloors underground in the
kirya. Usually, it functioned us the day-to-day operations ecnier. Bul it was
where the commanders of the wed forces operated dusing times of war.
Atoflicers” school. we'd heard and read about the imponaace of throwing
the enemy “otf balance”, Now, we were the ones oft bulance, The taces [ saw
around me were gray and drawn. There were dead looks in the eyes of the
commanders and their staff. Some 30 hours after the surprise atack. all the self-
confidence we'd felt since 1967 seemed to have evaporated. | looked info
several of the roms where, months carlicr, 1d rn through operational plans as
sayeret commender. luside each. a large wall map waced the course of the
fighting. [sracli forces were marked in blue, the Syrians and Eyzyptians in red,
with a timestamp for cach position report scribbled al the side in black magi
marker. But | saw that the latest addition was from at kast twelve hours earlier
Tt wes as if we'd lost track of what was happening, or were simply
overwhelmed by the pace of events,
spoke brietly with Talik as be walked along the corridor. He looked 10
years older than when I'd last seen him. Then I spotied Abrahle Yariv, who had
been called back fio miliny fntelligence ut the star of the war. §Laoking
surprised to see me beck in Israel, he pulled me close to him. “It's importaol
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that you came back.” he said. “We'll need cach and every one of you to pet the
job dane.” Then be bugged me again. It was as if, knowing IT would soon be
‘heading for the frant line, he wondered whether we'd see each other again,
nade my way 10 the office that the chief of staff used i the bunker ind
asked Dad's secretary if T could see him. As she was deciding whether w let
me in, he emerged. Though obviously aware of the seriousness of the situation,
Dado raduated his usual calm and confidence. For the first time, 1 felt a bit more
hopetul. “Me mishma. hud? be asked, in Israclis’ everyday greeting. “What's
up?” I told him 1'd just come trom the airport. “I can help in special forces
infantry, armor, Whichever 1s most needed.”
“Leading a tank unit.” he said. “They've suffered heavy losses. Go see
Tzipori.” Motke Tzipori was in charge of organizing the armored units. Ile sent
me ta Julis, the training base berween Tel Aviv and Beersheva, where tanks
from maintenance wits vou the country were being brought. Once they were
seasonably operational, and as more reservists arived from abroad. | would lead
a makeshift bartalion ta help reinforce our badly depleted forces in the Sinai.
aww
1 was just one of dozens of officers, in command of thousands of tireless and
courageous troops called om 16 iry to Lum the tide. Most were reservists. Many,
like me, had rushed home in the knowledge thar for the first time since 1948.
there was the real risk Israel would be defeated. By the time | got my battle
anders — October 14, the ninth day of the war — Israeli forces on the Golan, al
enormous cost. had managed to turn back the Syrian attack. In this war. the men
from Suyeret Matlal were not bystanders. Most of the unit joined tae fightback
in the north, where, inder Yoni Netunyahu's commun, they took on amd
defeated a Syrian eommandu force in the heart of the Golan. Yoni himself
risked his life to rescue a wounded officer from another unit behind enemy
lines,
In the Sinai, however, the sitnarion remained dire. An initial comnteratiack,
launched while 1 was on my way to Julis, ended up in tatters, with whole
battalions ull but destroyed, as our tanks came under fire from rocket-propelled
gromades and, above all, the wire-gnided Suggers. Ismel's main advantage in
1967 our command of the skies was all but gone. By maving their surfuce-
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to-air missiles to the baok of the Suez Canal afler the truce in the War of
Attrition, the Leyptians had ereated an effective no-fly zone a dozen miles into
he Sinai. After the failed comnter-attack., with the commander of the air force
waning thal we wee neming our mim “red fine” nmber of fighter jets,
Golda contacted the Americans Lo propose & cease-fise in the south. But haviog
retaken the Suez Canal and pushed inco the Sinai, President Sadat was in rio
mood to call a halt to the fighting. [he only way we were goiug to end the war
wes 10 retake the canal and defeat the even lacger Ligyptian forces on the uther
side.
To the extent tat my parc in war was different from other junior officers, it
ws because of my history iu Suyerel Matkal. Other Itachi sayereis were
attached to specific fighting lorees. Sayeret Golan. for instance, was part of the
Golan infantry brigade in the north: Sayeret Jzanhanum, was part of the
paratroopers. But “matkal” is the Tlebrew word for the peneral stall, since il was
the generals in military headquarters who had allowed Avraham Acnan to eecate
the unit. From the start, we had answered directly to the Ava, which ultimately
hal 10 approve aur operations. When | rushed buck from Stanford a the start of
the war, 1 was still just a 31-year-old licutcuani-colonel. T had spent two years in
command of the equivalent of an infantry battalion. But 1 knew. and in many
cases bad worked with, the en al the very top of the sed forces, meludmg
Dado, the chic of stall. So while other young reservists were seporting to their
former units for assignment. my first port of call was the command bunker,
where Dado himself. aware that 1'd dane intensive tank training before taking:
command of the sayeret, ensured that 1 would play my part in eying 1 usa
back the Tgyptian advances. T also kuew, or at least had met, many of the
generals plotting the counteroffensive in the command bunker in the south:
Shmuel Gonen, known ws “Gorodish”, who was head of the southem command:
Arik Sharon, who had left the same job for politics a few months earlier, but
was now commanding a division near the canal; and Chaim Bar-Lev, the former
chicf-af-staff whom Goldy had called back into emergency service. | even knew
the buaker. Tt was Urn-TTashiba, the command and intelligence post from which
we had run Sayeret Matkal operations into Egypt after 1967
So during fhe last, decisive 10 days of the war, [ would witness first-hand the
tension among our top commanders in the Sinai. especially betsveen Sharon aad
Gorodish. since Arik wasted few opportuaities to suggest. rightly but aot always
helpfully, that his successor was woefully out of his depth. [ would lead my
company bick cross the canal with on of fhe other min armored brigades m
the Sinai: take out Egyptian missile sites and help restore our jets” command of
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the skies: strike out alone at night, with sayeret-issuc night gogeles, to bring,
back the sweviving soldiers aller we realized we'd lost one of our APCs ina
battle with Fyzyptians; and even, becuuse 1’d been there betare on sayeret
sissies, leuing a joint armored force seross the Kyprian desert fo complele
the encirclement of Sadat's Thind Army and effectively end the war.
Still. the memory which has stayed with me longest — summoning back all
the miscues and misjudgements of some of Israel's top commanders, and the
terrible price paid by the men on the ground Ww ur things around — was the
fight tor an experimental agricultural facility located just a few miles back from
our side of the Suez Canal,
ve
On Isruch mhiary maps, it was called the Chinese Fam, Tn fact, 11 wis
Japanese experts who helped set it up in the then-Lgyptian Sinai before the Six-
Day War, When we captured it in 1967, deciphering the characters on the
equipment had evidently proven beyond our linguistic cupabilitios. Thus,
Chinese Farm. Now, it was back in Ligyptian hands. | he sprawling complex,
with its web of large irrigation ditches, controlled the main transport corridor
from the Sin to the bank of the canal.
Before dawn on October 16, onc of the bittulions in Arik Sharon’s brigade.
under a veteran paratroop commander named Danny Marr, had managed to
cross the canal on rubber tufts with an advance force of some 750 men and a
Few dozen Tanks. Bul il wis a precarions beachhead, vuherable 1o Kgyplian air
strikes, artillery and Sagger fire. Tlopes for any large-scale Israeli counterattack
rested on moving forward an enormous raller bride, and hundreds more tanks,
To complete The crossing impossible wilhon! eialing the Chines Farm.
Ihe first [knew of the scale of Bayptian resistance there was about four in
the morning on the seventeenth. 1 got a radio call ordering me to get my
battalion ready to move, ASAP, We were wttiched the other main armored
force, along with Acik’s, assigned to lead the crossing. Tt was under the
command of Avraham “Bren” Adnan, the former overall commander of Israeli
funk forces. “You're going north of Tirtur 42,” Bren's operations officer told
we. Even without eliecking unr coded map, | knew it was the wad runing
along the upper edge of the Chinese Farm, He told me that the paruchutists of
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Battalion 890. under Yitehik Mordechai, weee in trouble. “Go. Find them. Telp
get them out.™
1 knew Yitzhik personally, trom his years in the paratroopers” elite Battalion
$90. | knew the man who wis now m overall command of the paratroopers even
better: Uzi Yairi, who was in charge of Sayeret Matkal during my final years ot’
reserve dury at Hebrew University. Helicoptered into the Sinai just hours
earlier, the paratroopers hid been sent to the Chmese Fann shortly before
midnight. As | would soon leam, they had no more idea than 1 did boul what
they were about to face. They were told they were going in simply to clear out
bunds of “tank-hunters”, They werent fold of repeated attempts by same of
Arik’s top tank, paatroop snd reconnaissance units 1o tke the fiom over the
previous 36 hours — attacks which had not only failed, but had cost dozens of
tanks und humdreds ot men, Without artillery, armor or air support, they
immediately came under rifle, machine-gun, mortar and heavy artillery fire.
Our job was w gel them out. Ordering my men to gel ready for our first
combat mission of the war. 1 found myself face-to-face with a distraught and
determined frend from mihtry tel hgence, Yishii Ezhar had amived at Bren’s
headquarters the day before. When he saw mie, he'd asked w join my battalion.
He was a brilliant electronics engineer and was about to assume command of
the technology unit in military intethizenee. [told him we already had our
complement of tank ercws, and | knew he'd never had any armored triving. So
T found him a place in one of our APCs. But before joining military intelligence,
he'd been a company commander in Battalion 890, Hearing that we were going
10 restue his old unit, he insisted on joining me on the lead unk. | tied sever]
times wo refuse, but be said Thad no moral authority to stash him in an APC
when we were poing in to rescue his friends and comrades. Aware that each
wasted minute might cost more of the panstroopers” lives, | relented. 1 old
Yishai ied be sitting aceoss (com me on Lhe tired. eight above Yasha Kedmi,
another friend who, having served under me in my first tank company in the
War of Aurition, hid asked 10 join back al Julis. Yisha was our loader und
sadio-operator. [le got Yishai a machine gun, extra magazines foc bis Uzi and a
box of grenades.
We moved out through wave-like dunes in total darkness. After the first few
miles, the terrain leveled out a bit. Still, the sand was deep and the going slow.
When we got within a couple of miles of where I assumed Yitzhik and his mea
would be, 1 radiced him. His voice was chilling, “Theyre very close to us,
shooting,” he said “T've got many wounded. Get here as quick as you can.”
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As we got closer, T could stil see na sign of them. Ag dawa was about break,
Tradived Yitzhik to suggest he fire olV a face, but he thought that would put
them at even greater mercy of the Fyyptians. Instead, he tossed out a smoke
arene. We spoed it, more thins hall-wmike sway. slightly below us und lo
our right. 1 ordered us forward, leaving my second tank company behind for
covering fire. 1 led Company A, which included ty most experienced tank
commander, Moshe Sukenik. Immediately behind us were our APCs, including
two careying our medical team. My ain was 10 engage the Ligplian fire while
starting to evacuate Yitzhik’s men to one of the long. dry, inigation ditches, 600
yards behind vs.
We moved forward in a broad line with my command tank in the center. We
held our fire until we got closer. T still couldn't see exactly whee the men of!
Battalion 890 were and didn’t want to risk hitting them, Only when we ot
within about 70 yards did T spot the first of the paratroopers. They were in
groups of three or four in a thin line stretching 200 or 300 yards oa either side
of us. They were lying behind whatever cover they could find: a bush. a clump
of debris, a small vise m the sind. Some were firing. Others were wounded,
From just a few yards away, Egyplian infanteymen were caking them with vifle
and machine-gun fire. They were now shooting at us as well, and we returned
fire. But the Rgyplins, far outnonbering Yitzhil's men, were spread out mi
network of foxhole, in some places connected by trenches. As we moved
forward. T ordered my APC commander to start evacuating the paratroopers
back to the irrigation ditch, with the support of a further group of courageous
reservists rom another nearby APC unit
A shell suddenly exploded 20 yards ahead of me. Others ained in asound
our tanks. The source of the fire was straight ahead, about 1,300 yards away
thee SU-100s, Soviel-mude World War Two “unk destroyers”. [indned the
main gun of my tank on one of the SU-100s and ordered the gunner Lo fire. T
used the batalion-wide radio frequency so the others would hear the order. But
when the dust and smoke bad eleared, the SC-100s were still there. 1 ordered
sight correction and said, again: “Tire”. Sill, we missed. t was only thea thet
realized why. Almost none of the tanks brought brought into Julis fiom the
maintenance units hud included their “commander’s notebook™ with their
checklists for calibrating and firing — a major problem, since many of the
reservists had last been in a tank years before. T ordered the gunners to use their
telescopes. parallel to the main gun. instead.
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We were being hit by small-arms and RPG (ice fom all sides. On the turrel
of our tank, Yishai and [ were firing back. our Uzis on awomatic, and throwing
grenades, 1 could hear bullets pinging off the turret and the body of the tank,
Then, from onr far right Mank, came the shouleler-mounted Sawgers, homing in
with their ceric bluc-red glow, juddering towards us as the Egyptian soldiers
corrected thei trajectories. One of the missiles barely missed us, and the silky
wise fiom its puidance mechanism wes tangled over our Lures. | tied using my
binoculass to identify where they were coming from, but it wag no use.
To my right, T could see that the APCs had completed their first evacuation
rum and were comm bck for mare of Yitzhik’s men, There was a raggedness
whout it ull: onc APC, then # couple of others. then i gap, then another one or
two. They were doing whatever they could, whenever they could, as the
Fyyptian fire continued ta intensify. A few of Yitzhik’s men, whether desperate
or dazed, simply stwod up and starting walking west, toward the canal, valy to
be cut down by Egyptian gunfire.
I directed Moshe Sukenik to take half the company and head toward the
Sager to ry 10 take them out, even though we both knew thi he'd ive to
sisk heavy five before they got elose enough. Le had two-inch mortars on his
turret, but their range was anly 500 yards, far less than the Saggers. Every 45
seconds or $0, 2 salva of Sages zeroed in on our tanks and APCs, Within i
couple of minuies, two of the tanks were hit. One was on fire. The SU-100 tank-
destroyers were still there as well. Egyptian infantcymen were spraying us with
small arms fire, The whole ure wis swathed in grayish smoke. Every minute or
twa, another lank or APC took a dived hit. There was a smell, wo, which, once
experienced, never leaves your memory: the scent of burol human flesh.
The fire from the foxholes was getting worse. “Run over them,” 1 ordered
my lank diver. “Start with the foxhole m front of us.” He jerked us forward and
we plowed over the fist Lgyplian position. “Reverse, get the one Lo the right,” |
said. As he backed up. | was shocked to see a surviving Egyptian soldier,
shrugging off a hick blanket of sand from his shoulders, raise im RPG lumcher
at us from just 15 feel away. We were close enough to look into cach other's
eyes. I raised my Uzi and shot him before he could fire. Rifle and grenade fire
continued from aon the fine of foxholes. A second lenizth of the Sarers silk=
likes guidance wire angled over ous min pun, Yishai was firing at the
Egyptians from the other side of the tank. We both tossed grenades in the
direction of the worst of the gunfire,
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Tt wes then, suddenly. that Tsaw Yishai had taken a bullet in the side of his
neck. Blood was spurting [rom the wound. [is face was contorted in pain. [le
Tooked at me, raising his hands upward, ws if fo say: “1 did my best. (€'s over
nove.” [pressed bird on he wound, Inying lo stem the flow. Bil he shipped onl
al my grasp and collapsed into Yasha Kedmi’s ars. Yasha propped him up and
kept trying to staunch the bleeding. T turned toward the Egyprian soldier who
liad shot Yishai. less than 20 feet to my lel. Keeping mysellas low as possible
above the turset, 1 fred into his chest. Le tumbled iow the foxhole. As 1 kept
shoating, Yasha told me Yishai was dead. “Are you sure?” 1 asked. When he
said yes, | ordered the driver to back up, We drove a few doen feet, to where a
group of the pasatioopers was taking cover. With theiv bielp, we lowered his
body from the tank. and then returned to the battle.
Barely ten minutes had passed since it began. Twa SU-1005 were now
spewing smoke and out of action. The thicd bad withdrawn. But the Lypliens
were still ling. Uive of vue tanks had been hit, Two were on fire. One APC was
smoldering, its commander severely wounded. 1 knew that if we stayed nich
longer, we would end up like other trmored units during Israels firs, filed
counteratiack in the carly days of the war. We would risk being wiped out. As
far as I could cell. al the surviving paratroopers had been brought out or had
msnaged fo hobble to the irrigation dich. 1 ordered Sulenil lo shandon hus
attempt 10 take out the Saggers, and we withdrew behind the irrigation ditch.
Tt was only then that T realized that alongside two of our crippled Laks there
was still a group of a dozen men: six crew members from my battalion and six
af Yitzhik’s meu. Il wok nearly wo hours 1 gel them oul. We used our lank
uas Lo try 10 reduce the intensity of the fire [rom the Egyptians around them. T
ordered one of our APCs to 20 pet them. I rounded up all our smoke grenades.
und the APC crew used them lo exeute # smokescreen, the only way 1 could
think of 10 reduce the danger of being Lacgeted by the Saggers. Tt worked, bul it
required incredible guts for the men in the APC to pull ir off.
“The battle hud required guts of every man in the battalion. They had fomd a
wey 10 conquer the {est and most powerful cnemy on a bastlefihd: fear. 1 Rol it,
too. But it's easier for a commander. When you're leading people into combat,
you don't have time to be afraid, You have fo assess and evaluate, second by
second, everything going on around yon You have to make instant decisions
and ensure they re being carried out. The people under your comniand are
waiting to hear your voice, ind watching your actions, foo. (F you lose control at
any point, not only is your life at stake. Theirs are 100.
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Cady that evening, we were ordered to rejoin Bren's division to be ready foe
the crossing. When [reported that these of my soldiers were still missing, 1 was
ordered to inform the commander of the battalion replacing us to find the
missing mn. The ght for the Chinese Fam was still not over. 10 would be
another 12 hours before, in a co-ordinated push by a strengihened armor and
infantry force, Israeli forces finally drove most of the Tigyptians out. What
tenuous gains we'd made until then lied come at an enous price. OF
Yithik's 300 men, nearly 40 were killed. and many others wounded. 1d led
around 130 people into battle. More than 35 were injured. leven were dead,
including Yishai Izhar and Motti Ben-Dror, our medical officer, killed while
eating the wounded. One of our missing soldices was found alive. The other
two could only be broughc home for burial
As I began to hear the derails of the previous days” fighting. I became more
astonished. and angry. Tscael’s tactics in the bale foc the Chinese Tar had
involved a series of piecemeal strikes by units obviously too small, and
inadequately supported or co-ordinated, to succeed. The problem wasn't the
choice of units. No one could doubl the record of Buttulion 890, or of the men
Arik had sent in before Yitzhik arvived. But there was no way they were going
to take the area on their own. I couldn't understand why there wasn't an attempt
fo assemble a force hil might uchualy have been strong enough: parachutisis,
tanks, artillery. 1 BILL knew at least part of the answer from the two nights | had
spent in the Un-ITzshiba command post before joining Bren’s division. By
dawn an Octaber 16, the first of Arik’s men had crossed the canal. By the
allernoon, although the big roller-bridge was sill not ready. a smaller pontoon
bridge was available. Everyone knew we needed to get control of the Chinese
Farm. But all the field commanders were focused the real task, and the real
prize: crossing the canal und defizing the Egyptians an the other side
Now, at least, the main erossing was underway. Bren had chanced the fact
that, with Yitzhik pinned down at the Chinese Farm and the Egyptians
concentrating their re on his men and min, he could get the pontoon bridge
through. From late afieraoon on October 17, his first units began cross. On
the morning of October 18. my battalion joined them. There was still fighting
head, and we were part of it: taking out the SAM sites, engaging units of the
Third Army aud, vith Sadar vow pressing the Americans fora ccase-fire and
‘many Tgyptian units clearly losing the will to fight on, racing against the clock
to encircle and defeat it five days later.
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When the guns finally fell sileat, had lime to give full rein to my thoughts.
There were obviously fundamental questions about how the war had happened,
starting with why we hadn't lawn ahead of time that two neighboring states
were about To attsck ns — despite sayeret intercepts thal could have ven us
time to call up all our reserves. Disentangling the details would take months.
But we already knew the human cost of those failures. ITundreds of Israeli
soldiers had been killed. ‘The final sumber would be around 2,800. nearly four
times our losses in 1967. Thousands were wounded, some crippled for life
Many of the dead were men whom 1'd grown up with or served with, including
more than 20 in my own battalion. Same of the dead in other units were close
[riends.
T felt exhausted. [also realized that Nava, thousands of miles away in Pelo
Alto, and my parents on the kibbutz could still not be sure | had escaped the fate
of so many others. T leaned later that my parents had been making daily calls w
Digli, who was working in intelligence in the dirva. Though he had no way of
knowing where I was, le kept assuring them that he iad checked with my
communders snd that [was ahve and well. Nava had been lying on American
ews reports and the relayed assurances fom my parents, which she was
seasoned enough as an army wife to treat with skepticism.
missed her bdly, und hitle Michal, 1 felt the need to hear their voices, {
drove lo one of the brigade communications wits. here was a long line iu front
of the radio telephone. But within a hal(-hour. [ managed to pet a crackly
connection to California. Nava burst into tears when she beard my voice, | told
Ter 1 was fine, aud that | couldn’t wail w see her und our Bille girl. Then, my
awit eyes dampening, [ reeled off the names of friends who bad died. Tn
addition to the brave men 1'd lost in my own battalion, there were more than a
doen others | uleady knew of. A pair of brothers Gom Mishmar Hasbiron, a
couple of years younger than me. in separate units, but killed within hours of
each other. Another childhood friend. from a nearby moshav, named Rafi
Milzafon. And Shaul Shilev, a gified philosophy posterduaic and a brave tank
commander whom ['d become ftiends with au olficers” school. Te'd rescued
three dozen troops fiom one of the Bar-Lev fortifications in the first hours of the
war, only fo be killed trying ta set ta a tank crew who had taken refuge a few
miles back from the canal.
T'd lost two wonderful sayeret comrades, wo: Amit Ben-Tlorn, the soldier
who'd relayed the order from Motta fo abort our second attempt to abduct fhe
Syrian ollicers in Lebanon, and Amitai Nachmani. the officer who had
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demanded a meeting with Dado before ouc attack jn Rue Verdun. Amit died in
the fighting near Ismailia, at the northern end of the canal, as Arik Shacon’s
units pushed on after the crossing, The day before the end of the war, both
Amitai and Amram Levin were part of an operation lo tke over the Fagid Ai
Base across the canal, Whea an Layptian RPG hit thei Jeep, Amica was
wounded. Amitai was killed
thought, toa, of Yishar [zur the friend struck down beside me, wha 17d
exudled in auy arms on the op of my tank, trying 10 stop the bleeding.
“Oh Chod." Nava said. “It's like 1967 all over again.”
“No.” 1 said. “Worse. Much worse,”
A few wocks later, © was caning out of the kirya when | ran into another
friend. whom I'd first met at Tlebrew University. Like me. he had been a junior
officer in 1967, His name was Ron Ben-lshai. He would go on to became a top
jourmaist, covering the military for Ismel’s best-selling newspaper, Yediol
Achronar. To the early autumn of 1967, we were still transfixed by the idea of
being able to visit areas of biblical Israel, which for years had been under
Jordanian vile. With a Few other friends who were young officers, mine of us in
all, Ron and 1 embarked on a trek from the southern edge of Jerusalem, weaving
our way through the Judaean Desert toward Kumeran, on the Dead Sea.
Now a very driferent war hud come and gone, 1°d fought in at, Ran, as whl
is now called an embedded journalist, bad been with Danny Mall's paratoopens
when they'd crossed the canal. ITe was alongside another of Arik’s units
fighting our of the bridgehead on the far bank of the canal, That both of us had
sem lerible suffering over the past fow woeks did mo! need saying. But Ron
said he wanted lo show me something. Tishing into his wallet, he took ow a
carefully folded photograph. Ee had taken it in 1967, just six years earlier, to
srk our Judean ivek. There we were. All nine of us. Young. Full of opiimism
And probably a bit full of ourselves as well.
Ron and I were the only two left alive.
wa
‘We had won the war, and not just because our forces were now within 601
miles of Cairo, und only 25 from Damasens. We isd been aacked by two huge
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armies: voe-and-a-half million soldiers. Thousands of tanks. Tlundseds of
fighter jets. Other, much larger nations had endured mouths, even years, of hell
before prevailing in such circumstances: the Soviet Union, for instance, with its
huge stategic depth, or Franee, reseed by ls American-led allies, during
World War Iwo.
But any pride in having prevailed was outweighed by simple relief Tsrael had
survived. Even that wis nothing compared fo the sadness felt aver friends lost,
and the resentment and sense of betsayal toward the generals and political
leaders who had failed to prepare the country for the surprise attacks, or the
ininal confusion und dissension in some of our commanders” response to the
curly seibicks on the ground. Dozens of meetings were held in military units
after the war to talk about what had gone wrong. Twas not the only young
officer to notice that the higher up the command cham they went, the more
wnedilying they became. ARer we'd heard one too many senior officer fine
tuning his zceount with cach retelling, minimizing his share for the huge losses.
a new phrase entered Israeli army slang. Sipurer fravot — “battle stories” — were
the words sully wsed fo describe 8 normal debmeling process. Thal expression
was now amended, 1o shiparer kava. Battle improvements
Iwas assigned to convert my makeshitt force into a regular armored training
unit: Bartation 532, und that shihtly delayed my reunion with Nuva und Mikbul.
Bul in their absence. | found us # larger apartment in the Tel Aviv suburb of
Ramat TTasharon. Nava and T agreed that at the first opportunity, I'd return to
California and we'd fly back together, [went at the end of the year. We bought
w refrigerator und 8 washing machine for the new Nat — better models, and
cheaper, than those available in Israel — and came home. Those (ew December
days in Palo Alto were a jumble of emotions. Happiness, at being back together.
Bul also a sobering sense, now th | was outside Isc] for the fimst ime since
the wa, of the enormity of the threat we'd faced and the [rusteation and feac
Nava must have felt as we'd fought to defeat it. The year-end news
setrospoctives we waiched on Amerie TV were Gull of film clips Grom the fst
hours of the war, when it looked very possible we would lose. | remember being
struck by the thoughe that. if we hud lost, if Israel had ceased to exist,
ceremonies of memorial and mourning would have been held across America,
probably in Stanford. But that once the shock and sadness had passed, Isiael’s
disappearance would not have impinged on a single NIL Sunday. or delayed a
single family shopping visit to J. C. Penny.
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My command of Battalion 532 lasted only a few more moadhs. On Api |,
1974, an oficial commission of inquiry published its initial report vn the war. Tt
was scathing in its assessment of aur intelligence failings, for which it placed
the mam blue the officer who hid been promoted the year before ws head of
militacy intelligence: Lli Zeira, the man who had addressed us on the sayeret
base before the the 1967 and so confidently predicted the outcome. It also took
aim al two other commanders. Gorodish, as head of the southern command, was
ane. The other was Dado. As chiel-of-sialf, he was held ultimately responsible
for the intelligence failings and for not having ordered at least a partial call-up
of our reserves,
In Els ase, [recognized the very fel of our being caught by surprise made
his position untenable. Tn fact, as [ leaned more details about what had
happened, 1 realized the commission had, if anythmg, understated the
seriousness of his errors. Tn dhe cun-up to the war, Cli had resisted multiple
sequests from other intelligence offiears to activate what the commission called
our “special sources” of intellipence: the communications intercepts we'd
planted decp mside Feypl. Worse, hie had indicated 10 the Few generals who
were aware of theie existence that he had activated them, implying that his lack
of concern about the possibility of an Egyptian was based on our intercepts.
Because Dada was one of the people misled, hus Ball struck me as profoundly
unfair, He had devoted bis whole adult life w the detense of our country. Afier
the inquiry report, he was never again the same person. Tle developed an
obsession with fimess and exercise. Psychologists might have called it
displacement activity. | wondered whether it was a kind of sol -punishment.
Either way. it may well have killed him. ALage 50. Jess than three yeaes after
the war, he died of a heart attack after a day of running and swimming,
Almost every level of command wis thrown info flux afer the inquiry
sepuet. So was tie political landscape. Both Golda and Dayan bowed to growing
public pressure and resigned, The premium was on finding replacements who
were sufficiently experienced, but did not bear responsibly for the errors of
the war. For Prime Miuisicr. the choice fell ou Yitzhak Rabin. Te had strong
military credentials. of course. But he had left the army and entered politics, and
hac been ant of [sricl for several yes us Ismel’s ambassidor fo Washington,
He had joined Golda’ gosemment only weeks bolore the wear, in the relatively
minor cole of Minister of Labor. Much the same thing happened in the army.
Only ane of the genentls who had been in the running to succeed Dado before
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fhe war was unscathed: Motta Gue. [1e, wo, had been in Washington. Within
days of the inquiry ceport, he was called back to replace Dado as chief-ol-staf
My role changed, toa. Not everyone emerged from the war with his
reputation diminished. The hon’s shave of the credit for Israel's eventual victory
went to the rank and file of our citizen army. But in the officers’ corps, there
were also examples of coolheadedness in crisis. and leadership. One was
Moussa Peled, who was now made head of the wrmored comps. My averall
wartime commander, Bren, replaced Gorodish as head of the southern
command. And Dan Shomron, whose 401" armared brigade played a critical
part in defeating the Firyptians, wis another, Dan und 1 hud fiest wot ta know
auch other well 1 Kavanch, thew daring my period as ssyorot commander, We
would go on in the years ahead to work more closely logether than almost any
senior officers in the military, He was now promoted as well, He became
katzhar, overall head of infantry and paratroop forces. and he recommended me
as his successor in Brigade 401.
Still, T knew that the Motta would have the final word. with input from the
twa senior officers most dircetly affected: Peled and Bren, [don’t thmk cither of
them had anything agains me personally. But both were Lauk officers through
and through. There were other candidates to succeed Dan who, unlike me, had
spent their whole careers in the urmared corps.
heard Formally 1 was being considered as | wis shoul to rein fo my
‘battalion from Ramar [Tasharon one Sunday morning. [ was ordered to report to
Mott's office, When I got there, hie gestured toward the small table at the side,
He uheady had two other visitors: Mowssi Peled nd Bren. “Yon probably
know you're a candidate for taking over 101.” he said. “These two gentlemen
think you're not yer ready. What do you say?”
117d hid more time to prepare, [might have answered more subtly. But |
did very much want to be given command of the 101st, and had no doubt T
would be a worthy and dedicated commander. “I don’t know exactly what the
two gentlemen mean by whether I'm ready,” replied, “So 1 have u proposal.
Tind a battke-tested officer whom you trust. TTave him check who among the
three of us, me or these gentlemen. is more familiar with the tank and its
systems, Wha of us knows better the terrain, in Syria or Faypr, day ar might,
where we have lo ight? Who knows the operational requirements for an
armored force, and the armored doctrine these gentlemen signed off on. Finally,
which aie of" us has spent more thm in i Inmet of a funk, on the batlcficld,
shooting at encany focces and being shot at by the enemy?”
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There was silence, a grave look from Peled and Bren, the hint of a smile on
Motta’s face, and the meeting, was over. Several days later, 1 was notified of his
verdict. | would indeed be named the commander of the 401st Armored Brigade
in the Sinai, and promoted to full colonel.
Our bose wag a 15 mikes from the canal. 11 was @ huge expanse of sand
ringed by metal fencing. We spent three months at a time in this forward
deployment and three manths in our rear base, 50 miles from fhe canal, During
anc of uur forward deployments, Motta came on an inspection visit. He wanted
to discuss how we planned detend the area near the canal in the event of a
repeat of the 1973 war, 1 told him everythmiz we were doing in the brigade was
aimed ut crsuring flexibility. | ed also been thinking bout sone uf the broader
issues relating to our defenses in the south. “No matter how good our tactics or
plans.” 1 said. “what warries me is that we're stiff not looking at our overall
approach to defense against Egypt. Is es if we've focgotten that in 1967, when
we captured Sinai. it was io ordec to have a bullec zone. We had 750 miles of
sand between southern Israel and the canal. But when the Tgyptians attacked in
1973, we defended the desert us i was the walls of Jerusalem!”
Since the 401s was one of twa regular brigades un the Ligyplian front, it was
not easy to make the four-hour drive home to Ramat Hasharon. When 1 got
word Nava was going into labor with our sceond child, 1 was fading a training
exercise five or six miles from our base. As she was on ier way 10 the hospital,
T grabbed my car and headed north. Unlike Michal’s birth, this one was not
cusy. When the baby emerged, she was struggling to breathe, The immediate
danger passed, but she was placed in an incubator. When | goto the hospital,
Nava was asleep. Twas taken to see our tiny daughter, Yael. When the nurse
left, 1 noticed the baby’s pinkie trapped in the plastic cover of the incubator. [
started binging on the window of the room. ‘The nurse rushed back. With a look
of sympathy mixed with world-weary experience of other fathers ia similac
‘panic. she raised the cover. folded Yael’s tiny hands onto her stomach. and all
was well
1 veas another health erisis whieh hastened the end of niy period as brigade
commander. But this time. T was the one in the hospital. T neazly collapsed from
high fever and exhaustion. The initial suspicion wis some kind of
contamination linked 10 the rudimentary sanitation in the Sinsi. When the
symptoms persisted, the doctors suggested T probably had hepatitis B. Years
later, better diagmostie tools rule all that out. [ve never discovered wht the
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illness was. But for nearly six moaths, getting through the day, sometimes a
single task, remained a struggle
[did not want to leave my command, 1 was still barely 18 months into the
roke. and anxious 10 get further command experience. But just is [ was fechnyg ul
my weahesl, there was another belated casually from the 1973 war. his tie, it
was Uzi Yairi. No one could reasonably have held him responsible for the
losses suffered by Battalion $90 at the Chimes Fam, I'm sure tht if he'd
Known what happened fo the Isrcli forces that hud heady tried 1 take it over,
he would never have allowed Yitzhik to po in without adequate armor and
artillery support, Still, he blamed himself. In abvious distress ufter the war, he
was roussigned as wn operational officer in mili intelligence in the Kirva
Ue was still at his desk when Fawal tecrovisis landed on Tel Aviv's seafront a
Tittle before midnight on March 4, 1975. They were spotted by a police patra,
which apencd fire. The Fittuh men rn from the beach, Firing Kalashnikovs and
tossing grenades. A block in from the sea, they burst into & modest, three-story
building: the old Savoy Hotel. They shot and killed three peaple in the lobby
and tak he rest of the stall and guests hostage
Suyoret Mutkal was callod in. As the unit went through final preparations for
their assault. Uzi showed up. [le had a rifle. He was in his everyday officer's
uniform, unlike the sayeret team, which was weighted down by special-farces
gear. As i Former commander of the sayere. he persuaded Therm be could help
take ouc the terrorists and locate the hostages. Shortly before dawn, led by
Amram |evin, they attacked. They killed three of the Fatah men within
sceonds. Bul unother terrorist set off an explosion, collapsing most of the top
floor. Uzi joined a couple of the other sayeret men in search of the hostages. Ile
was shot in the head and neck. Seven of the eight terrorists were killed, the
other captred. Though five hostages were fred, five lost their lives. Uzi died
an the operating table of [ehilov Hospital. a few hundred yards from the kira,
PE
Though T doubt ULi's family and fiends would agree, my put feeling was
always that his death was one more result, however indirect, of the shambalic
waty 1m which we'd orginized our tacks on fhe Chinese Farm. | hat wis part of
the reason for my reluctance when Motta told me he wanted me to take Uzi’s
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place io the kirva. 1 realized Twas the only available replacement with a similar
backround, and sayecel experience. But [ was still gaining brigade command
experience, And [ couldn't help feeling the role was intended as a kind of rest-
underecavery cure because of my illness, not loo different from the vesson Uzi
had been given the job. Still, [did need rest and secovery. Even if fully healthy,
I'm not sure I could have convinced Motta to change his mind. In my weakened
state, | had no chance.
Skeptical though | was about the job. it opened up a new world tw me. The
fry itself was not new territory. But now, I became exposed to how how the
huge range of intelligence information we gathered was collated, evaluated,
wssessed und ultimately applied. Helping with this process was my new
assignment. There were, in fact, lwo of us. We were both colonels and together
we provided the mtelligence background for military operations. [had the post
on inside the military intelligence deparunent. My opposite number was in the
aperations department — the more senior sale, in a way, because he had a more
direct link to the people actually doing the operations. Ile was a friend from
officers” school: Dovils Cirmiri’s vonmger brother, Shi. Once iw week, Shad und
[put together an assessment report. Then, we'd join Moua's operations meeting
with the general staff, often atcended by the man who'd followed Dayan as
defense minister, Shimon Peres.
The analysis of military intelligence included separate teams for ligypt aud
Syria, Jordan and Lebanon. Iraq and other neighboring states, as well as other
countries and superpower relations, It relied on all our raw intelligence material,
from buth miliary intelligence and Mossad, us well as academic amd specialist
literature. Tach desk dealt not just with militacy issues, but political and
economic developments. 1 was responsible, along with Shai and a few others.
for bringing all this together. This mean! Frequent meetings with members of the
analysis leans. Cor the first six months or so. T barely uutered a wond in these
sessions. I listened, not just absorbing the information but getting to understand
the wary the analysts worked wd ought
Our whole intelligence department was responsible for drafting an annual
strategic assessment for the army and the government. The final report was
written by Shlomo Gazit, who had succeeded Eh Zeira as head of militry
intelligence. Before we sent it w print, he held a long meeting, inviting the
views of all the military intelligence officers. The focus in 1976, just three years
after fhe wr, was on the risks of a new surprise attack. At the end of the
discussion, however, he said: “We know we run a real danger for the country if
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we fail 1o spot the signs of a war. But has any of you asked yourselves
something 1 find myself wondering from time to time? Is there not a similar risk
if we miss the signs of an opportunity for eae?”
His words stuck with me for the rest of my time m public fe. They also had
u strong impact on me at the time. One of the beuchils of my job was that {
could read the full inquiry report from the 1973 war, including the portions thar
haf been kept classified. Some dealt with the political situation before the war.
Golda had relied hiavily on a “kitchen cabinet” of trusted ministers and a few
close advisers. The inquiry material described how Sadat had been extending
negofiuting feclers before the war, And how Golda, Eli Zeira, Dado and Dayan
a responded. [was like an exercise in collective reinforcement. |hey agreed
the Arab countries would not simply go on living with the humiliation of their
defeat m 1967. At some stage, they would try tw regain the initiative, on the
battlefield. But none speared to think though the implications of this for pur
puitical approach. Perhaps. like Eli Zeica in 1967, they assumed a kind of
historical inevitability of Iscaeli triumph. Though we'd ending up prevailing in
1973, it was impossible ot 10 wonder whether, is Shlomo suggested, we had
missed the signs of a possible peace beforchand.
Now, however. we were facing an escalating challenge from an enemy with
no interest in peice: the armed Palestinian groups. The Democratic Front took
aver a school in northern Israel a half-year afler the war. In March 1975, Fatah
had seized the Savoy. And about a year into my posting in the A#ye, the Popular
Front fur the [.iberation of Palestine launched an even more audacious
operation.
Tbecame known by the name of the airport where the ordeal ended.
FEriehbe, And when it began 1, like Uzi Yairi, was sitting at my desk.
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Chapter ‘Ten
Sundry is an ordmary working day in (src! and the first sign that ime 27,
1976 would be aay different came shortly after noon. It was an urgent message
from Lod Airport, now renamed in honor of David Ben-Gurion, who passed
away after the 1973 war, Radi contact hid been lost with Afr France Flight 139
from Tel Aviv to Paris, shortly after a stopover in Athens.
We couldn't know for sure what had gone wrong. Maybe a mechanical
malfunction, a glitch in the electronics. a crash. Or a hijack. But we did know
there were roughly 300 passengers and a dozen crew ou board. Many of the
passengers were Israelis. and others were Jews from abroad. Tver since the
Sabena hijacking four years earlier, whenever a civilian airliner was thought to
be under attack within three hous of Iseacl, step-one in our response had been
automatic. Sayeret Matkal was ordered to the airport
Because I'd communded the Sabena operation the first, and still the only,
time we had stacked und freed u hijacked plane — it was probably ineviuble |
would take some part in liguring out how. or whether, to intervene if the Air
France plane turned out to have been hijacked. But my pivotal role, as the crisis
intensified, wis down Lo a combination of facions: my broader experience us
sayerel commander, the fact that T now worked in the kirva, just one for up
from the chief of staff, and. as so often, pure chance.
As the sayeret assembled at the airport, its cunent commander Yoni
Netanyahu, my former deputy — was hundreds of miles away iu the Sinai,
preparing for an operation across the canal. So it was Mookie Betzer. now
Yoni’s deputy, who beg bricfmg the men for 1 possible hostage rescue m case
ihe jet veurned to Israel. Au the kirva, we were also without our commander:
Motta was in the Negev observing a major militery exercise. So it was his
deputy the head of the operations branch, Kuti Adam who buzzed me on the
intercom al two in the aflernoon and summoned me 1 his office.
By ow, we knew the plane had been hijacked, but that it wasn't heading.
back to Isracl. The terrorists had renamed it “Arafat” and ic was on its way to
Libya. 1 took the stairs down lo Kut’s office, two floors below mine, and he
immediately handed me a lacge, black-and-white acrial photo. 1 showed the
incernational airport in Benina. just outside Benghazi on the eastern edge of
Libya “Can we do anything, Ehud? he asked me. | didn’t say no outright. But
Ttold him that even if we had a treasure trove of intelligence about Benina —
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which, T soa verified. we didn’t — the obstacles would be enormous. Unlike the
Sabena jet, this one was a wide-bodied Airbus, and EI Al had none of those in
its fleet, Fen we could find a way ta make sure 4 sayeret team ot briefed on
the airizer, we'd be mounting an aek-und-resens operation i thowsimd miles
away. And even if we could take out the terrorists, we were almost eettain to
face opposition from the former anny colonel who ruled Libya, Mummer
Gleddafy. The chance of success seemed slim, the risks enormous.
Soon, luwever, Kuti's question ceased to matter. Later Sunday night. Flight
139 took off again. Before leaving Libya, the hijackers freed a passenger: an
tsraeli dual national, with a British passport us well, who maniged to conymee
them she was going info labor. We leamed through her hal there were four
hijackers: two Arabs aod two Turopeans. Tt was a PFLP operation, but included
members of the far-left West German Ruader-Meinhaf terror group. They
forced the pilot to head for the east African state of Uganda. On Monday
evening, it landed at Eolebbe Airport, 20 miles ouside the Ugandan capital of
Kampala and just a couple of hundred yards from the shore of Lake Victoria. It
wats five dimes Nurther away than Benghi
Yet with cach passing hour, increasiugly alarming radio sud television
reports focused on the obvious agony of the hundreds of captive passengers. To
this day, I"ve never been able to establish why it was a further 24 hours before
we started seriously 10 work out if there might he some way for us 10 ree them,
Prime Minister Rabin was clearly asking himself the same question, however,
because on Tuesday afternoon, hie called Mort in the Negev. It was now a full
53 hours aller the hijacking, he said. Whe the hell we ware doing o try fo come
up with a plan? Mota was immediately summoned back to Jerusalem foc an
emergency meeting of the government. As he was on his way back from there
10 the irs, Kuti called me back dow 10 his office. “Mots just told them that
there is a military option” he seid, with a wry smile. Kui had been a aganeh
officer in 1948. in charge of the Golani brigade, head of both the northern and
the southern command, nd hid known Motta for years. “hal means we now
have w find one”
Thad just begun briefing a few of the analysts in my office when Motta
retumed. When 1 gat to his office, Kuti waved both of us eros the hallway to
the big. rectangular conference room where general stall meetings were held
On the side of the room veas a globe. Giving it a spin, he said: “Ni. Motta. Tell
me, when you told the government we had a military aption, did you even know
where Gntebbe is? Motta didn’t so much as crack a smile. “We have to (ind a
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sesponse,” he said. “I've committed us. Thud, Twant you 10 check what can be
done. Take whatever you need, from wherever you want. Bring me suggestions
by seven tomarmow maming.” Then, he said, we would ga brief the Defense
Mimisier, Shimon Peres.
Lassembled a Lean the same way we'd prepared for special-operations
missions in the sayeret: looking; for information, intelligence and above all
experience and msight from whoever | thought was likely to make tht ahwuys-
narrow difference between failure and success. My firs alls went to Mookie
Betzer and another of my most trusted and experienced sayeret comrades,
Amiram |evin, Then | brought in Ido Ambar, the personal aide to air force
commander Benny Peled. and Gadi Shefi, the commander of the Shayerer 13
SEALS. Finally, two oflicers from Dan Shomeon’s office. Since Dan was
kenizhar, in overall command of paratroop and infantry forces, it was critical to
Keep bit in the picture. T10ld them all that we’d be working through the night,
and that T had to be able 1o tell Matta and Shimon by the morning whether we
really could mount a rescue mission.
Util thought 1d end np Baving to tell them no. However difficult the
absiackes we'd faced with Sabena, they were almost childs play compared ty
getting a sayeret assault team 5,000 miles across the continent of Africa,
surprasing the terrorists, Freeing fhe hostages unharmed und getting them out.
That wes even assuming, ws | diel at that pout, that we wouldn't fee armed
opposition from the woops of Uganda's increasingly Lyrannical president, Idi
Amin, Amin had begun to align himself polincally with the Palestmians m the
past Rew yess — one reason, no dob, the lerorists had landed there. Bul he
had actually been on a pacalroop course in Israel befoce taking power in 1971.
We had sent officers to bilp wain his army in the early 1970s
Now, [ discovered, Mookie himselC had been on ne of the tram missions.
“Uheir men acen't great fighters. at least at night,” he said. au insight of abvious
relevance fo planning a commando attack, if we could get that far. When
Ambar, the ar force wide, spoke np, 1 finaly began to feel we might at least be
able to put together the outline of a plan. 11e’d brought with im a copy of the
standard reference book on world airports. which gave us at least a general idea
of the Liyout of Entebbe, He alsa said that the air foree bud run 4 training
program for the Ugandans. In Entebbe. He'd contacted one of the reserve pilots
who had been on the training mission. and he was on his way to joia us.
Sill, time wins shor we were nowhere near being able to recommend a
specific plan of action. The hijackers had set a deadline — noon va Thursday.
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Tuly 1. 00w less than 36 hours away. Uaving moved the passengers off the plane
to one of the terminal buildings. they were threatening t stact Killing then
unless we freed a list of 53 Palestinians and PLO supporters, farty af them held
in tamed nd the rest in a nue of Fusopen countries, ind pid a smsom of
five million dollars.
Well past midnight. we started looking at our options. One which seemed —
briefly fo hold pramesc drew on suggestions from (do Ambar ind Moot:
o's almost shiapsodic description of the capabilities of our C-130 Hercules
transporte planes convinced us we could parachute in a Sayeret Matial team, as
well as vehicles for them to use on the ground, Mookie and agreed that to
csure surprise, we would disguise the commandos ss Ugandan woops, in
“Ugandan” Jeeps. The final twist came with the arrival of the reserve aic force
officer who had been on training duty in Entebbe. He brought a reel of fmm
film [Tom a0 official cecemany at the airport. AL the star, a Ugandan army
general could be seen arriving in a black Mercedes. “That's iL” Mookie said.
“The Mercedes. Every top Ugandan miliary officer has one.” We decided to
svar ome of our Jeeps far jet-bliack limousine
Yet by daybreak on Wednesday. when | went up wo brief Molo, we'd set
aside the option of a parachute drop. Any initial surprise would be outweighed
by the risk of exposure from the very stmt of The wssault. We'd also one cold
ana second option, lo infilfeate sayeret teams aloug the shore of Lake Victoria
from across the nearby border in Kenya. T doubted we had enough time 10
navigate ull the operational and diplomatic abstacles before the deadlme
expired. Tha loll option three: living the SEALs. along with a core wim from
the sayeret, parachute onto Lake Victoria with rubber dinghies and attack the
airport trom on foot. We arranged to do a test parachute assault off the Israeli
const in Hifi hater in the day, but if that went well ii seemed the only practical
alteraative.
Motta and T went met Peres around & 30am. Shimon had no first-hand
mihtary experience, hav played 1 political vale alongside Ben-Gurion from
tsrael's early years. So lie was uot really interested in the details. But he wats
keen to hear our assurances that a military option did exist. TTe was even more
intrigued when we were joined by the head of the air farce, Benny Pele.
Unaware of the sithorne parachute drop we had been discussing overnight,
Peled suggested something fac more ambitious. Rather than using a single
Hercules, he proposed usm four of fhe want transport planes to ferry in a kirger
force, some 200 men in all, land them on one of the runways and take over the
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entire airport. Though T dida't say so, T had my doubis it would work. Tt was a
bit like the initial option for the Rue Verdun raid Dado had rejected: a classic
ground assault which, in addition ta eliminating any chance of suprise,
obviously ran the risk of igniting a small ground war. Bu 1 did think that some
combiuation of Peled's idea and the surprise commando strike we'd been
looking at might provide an answer.
A few haus biter, the hostages” ordeal took chilling turn, which soon alsa
provided us with our first real detailed picture of the scale of the challenge we
taced. In a haunting: echo of the Nazis “selection” process in the Holocaust. the
terrorists separated all the passengers with [srueli passports or Jewish numes,
They lot the rest of them go, aud allowed them to borrd a special Air France:
flight back lo Paris. We immediately dispatched Amicam Levin to debrief the
freed passengers. On a sccambled feleprinter line Wednesday might, Amiram
came up with fac more than we could have hoped for. One of released
passengers was a [each woman who had managed to hide the fact she was
Jewish. She confined reports we had been petting that the hostages were being
held im the airport’s Former feminal building, about a mile Fron its newer
terminal and the main cunways. Other passengers revealed that the hijackers had
placed explosives around the old terminal building. And that, despite my hope
that Idi Armin would stand aside if we diel decid 10 go in amd vesen the
Tostages, his troops were helping 1o guard the area.
So in addition to taking on the hijackers, we'd have to find a way to deal
with Ugandan soldiers. In another round of discussions in my office through the
Hite hours of Wednesday night, we Finally seuled on onr plan: Peleds nusjor
airborne operation. but with a Sayeret Matkal suike Sorce, with its “Ugandan”
motorcade, spearheading it. Minutes later. three other C-130s would fly in
additional Iroops to secure the rest of the siport, deal with any Ugandan army
sesistance, and fly out the Tseaeli soldiers aod the hostages.
An operation on that scale naturally meant bringing in Dan Shoniron. After
I'd taken the plan to Kuli Adam, he briefed Dan on the full detail and called me
dower 10 see hint again. Den had left 10 start preparations for the vperation. He'd
made just one request, Kuti said: that Tbe in command of the sayeret force.
PRO
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Tcould see why Dan bad said it. Working with Mookie and the rest of my
team, ['d been in charge ofall the initial planning. | was in command of the
Sabena assault, the only remarely similar aperation Israel had attempted,
Thomgzh ui stent la rescue dozens of lerrificd hostages in Enlebbe, with both
the terrovisis and possibly Ugandan soldiers armed and ready, would be much
harder. As Sayeret Matkal commander, I'd conceived and commanded other
missions thal tequiring us 10 break new ground. Bul — and it was a huge but — (
Anew from the moient 1 lel Kuti's office that | would have to find a way to
avoid undermining the current sayeret commander, Yoni. Dan had clearly been
aware of that as well, He'd stressed fo Kuti that he meant ne disrespect to Yoni.
“But | know Lbud.” be said. “Uve worked with hin. | want hin to lead it.”
Yoni was still in the Sinai. I'd phoned him before our first overnight
planning session to tell him 1 was hemging in Mookie and Amitam, Mookie had
been giviog him daily updates. Bui the clock was ticking. Under the initial
deadline, the hijackers had theeawned Lo begin “exceutions™ on Thursday.
Today. The deadline had now been pushed back. but only uncil Sunday morming
and only aller Rubin fell hie had no opiion but 1o drop ow public refusal to
consider negotiating with them
When Dan called our first operational briefing for Thursday night, Mackie
sent plane to bring Yoni back, an set out the plan with ns customiry
contidence. The four Hercules would take off on Saturday evening from Sham
el-Sheikh at the southernmost tip of the Sinai. to cut the Nying distance at least
slightly. The first plane would kand on the runway near the new tenmmal, Inside
would be a small wil of paratroopers, the sayerel strike force, a pac of keeps
and the Mercedes. The next Teccules wouldn't arrive [oc another seven minutes:
the most critical minutes of the whole operation. That was when our “Ugandan
motorende” would make its way 10 the old iennmal, burst in and tke care of the
tercorists. The second Tereules would include another Sayeret Matkal wean, to
reinforce the arcack unit and secure the perimeter of the old terminal. Ilercules
Number Vie, s mime later, would carry # joint farce of sayerer. fighters,
paratroopers and a Golani team. Their job would be to take over the new
terminal and the rest of the aizport and deal with any Ugandan ary resistance.
The finul plane was a flyin medical unit, ta pravide treatment for the hostages
and carey them back 10 seac]
Yoni arrived just as Daa was finishing his presentation. Ie looked focused.
energized, and eager to play his part. 1 realized it was important to explam fo
him the decision to place me in command. Despite our close relationship, T
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Lacw that would be a sensitive task. We spoke only briefly before he and
Mookic drove back 10 the sayeret base to begin more detailed preparations.
Yoni was insistent that he should be in charge. {told him | understood. and [
did. In bis position, | would have fell exactly the sme way. Bul for a variety of
seasons, Den wanted me in command. tll, siessed ny determination aot to
detract from his authority. Yoni would lead in the main assault unit. ITe and
Maokic would choose the other uflicers and soldiers, decide their roles and tale
charge of waining, bricting and logistics. 1 could tell he was still not satisfied.
But 1 told him and Mookie Id join them later that night, We could talk further,
ahead of the next full briefing, which Dan had set for nine o'clock on Friday
morning ou the sayeret base.
When they lel. T joined Daa. Motta and Kuti fo go see Rabin. Shimon Peres
was there toa. He would liter say that, as Defence Minister, he was i crucial
voice in pressing to go ahead with the rescue mission. [1e’s right, and had he
been sceptical. or opposed the idea ofa recuse, it would have made things much
more difficult. But his position was far easier than the Prime Minister's. Ile
ticked Rabin biancls-on corrmand experience, his grasp of the detsils of what
we were proposing to do and the abvious risks. All Istaclis were aware of this. |
the operation failed, or if we decided in the end not to attempt it it would be.
Rabin who would bear the responsibilty and get the blame.
ven under the host of circumstances, Rabin was naturally cautions — the
flipside of the meticulousness with which he ran through the fine detail of every
military mission. As | remembered from when he was chief of staff, in our
slightly surreal conversation ahoul the danger of @ buoby-trapped
communications intercept exploding as T defused it. he would focus on
everything that might conceivably po wrong with an operation before approving
it. Now, he wins also under hinge sedfitonial pressure. From he start of the hijick
crisis, there had been calls fiom the hostages” families to do something to cod
the ordeal. Bur as I later discovered, one of the leading scientific engineers in
tel, Yosel Tipman, had i daughtor among the passengers. Like Yitzhak, he
liad been a Pelmachnik. e'd come Lo see the Prime Ministec and implored lit
1ot to attempt an operation that might endager her or the others. “I demand one
thing only,” he said. “Don’t 50 an any adventures. Da not play with the lives of
these people, with the life of my daughter.”
Aller Tatebbe, there would be suggestions that Rabin’s readiness to
negotiate with the terrorists hid been a ploy. designed ta buy time, Yet his
message to us (hat night was that if there was a military option with a
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reasonable chance of success. be would approve it. But otherwise, we could not
let dozens uf hostages be murdered if by talking, even deal-making, we could
have saved them, He fumed to Dan and asked whether there indeed was ©
suilitary option with a ressonable prospect of get the hostsges oul. Dan said
yes. Rabin turned 0 me nest. T agreed: we had a plan, and we felt we could
make it work. Motta was a bit more hesitant. Ile suggested we couldn't know
for sure until we'd finished wating key parts of the operation. But for Rabin, it
seemed 10 me Dan's was the key voice. $0 he told us thal he was approving it
In principle,
He said he still needed answers to two questions. The first was whether it
was physically possible 10 cross Grom the new terminal arcs, whore we'd be
landing. to the old terminal buidling. [Te wes right to press us. IF a retaining wall
ora drainage trench hud been added druing the modemization work on the
airport, any element of surprise could be lost. Rabin's second condition was that
we find a way 10 make absolutely sure, by the time the first Uercules landed,
that the hostages were still in the old terminal building. T knew why that
nonbled him, From a remark 1°d heard him mike a few years earlier when
deseribing an American hostage-rescuc raid behind enemy lines in North
Vietnam. That aperation went exactly as planned. Txcept that the POWs had
been moved.
Ldsove 10 sce Yoni aud Mookic at the seyerel base. We spent most of The
meeting on the opening few minutes of the operation: the rolling out of the
vehicles, the drive to the old termmal, and how to handle the possibility that we.
sight meet Ugandan resistance. Mookic renmived adamant about the
Ugandan. [rom his time taining them a few years earlier. Even if we did run
into a aroup of Amin’ troops, even if they Were armed, even if they were
pointing their guns al us, even if they shout at us 1 stop, they “wouldn't dare
open fire on a Mercedes. T trusted is experience. 1 kept emphasizing that we
had to go in with the mindset of nor engaging Ugandan troops unless there was
nor chonee. [we did need to do so, we would nse only small, silenced Berets
since ['d made sure the unit trained on the Berettas afler Sabena.
Talso raised another critical condition for success. “There will definiefy be
an armed presence im the control tower,” | sad, We needed to desimate a
special unit whose sole job would be 10 twain machine guns, rifles aud grenade
launchers on the tower as soon as we got off the Teccules. “The moment that we
lose the clement of surprise, they apen fire.”
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Dan began the next mocning’s briefing wilh a stape-by-stage review of how
the operation would unfold. But just as he was gating to the detail of the
motorcade attack, [ felt a young sayeret officer tap me an the shoulder, Kuti had
phoned 10 say [was 10 go see bin al the kira. “He sid immediaely.” the
alficet added, “and not lo discuss it with anyone. Just to tell Dan Shomron that
you've been taken out of the operation.”
PEE
Ta say [was surprised would be an understatement. But 1 allowed myself to
belive the decision t “take sue oul” could still be reversed. Not anly was |
seady Lo command the critical Jisst pact of the vperation. T believed Twas hest
phiced to ensure it succeeded. [felt that was best for Yoni, too, due ta fensians
inside the sayeret of which both of ws wore aware.
There was no uificer to whom | was closer than Yoni. |e had extraordinary
strengths as a soldier: in the Six-Day War, in 1973, and afterwards when, with
my encouragement, he'd taken command of tank battalion m the north ff
lost in tatters fron: the Yom Kippur War. But there was more 10 Jim as well
Lused to marvel how ar the end of 16 hours of sayeret training, he could spend a
further twa or free reading history, or a novel or poetry. He always steugeled
between the impulse to devote bis life to fighting for the State of (sacl, and Lo
studying, reading and living as a more “normal” family man.
His drive fo serve, and to excel, was stronger, Tuti Goodman, the youn
worn hed et as a teenager and married, anderstood what drew him 10 w hfe
in uniform. Bue that wasn't what she had signed up for. At one point, Youi
asked me to speak to Tuti, She asked me to speak to him. 1 did my best to
explin such 10 the ther. But the gap between what cach of them wanted for
their lives was just 100 wide. Before the 1973 war, they’d separated. Afler the
war, professionally fulfilled but personally shattered, Yoni heard that 1'd found
wn apartment in Ramat Hasharon, and he asked me if there were other flats m
the building. 1 turned oul that the over of the tat below ours was willing to
tent it. Yoni sapped it up.
Over the past year or so, with Yoni leading the sayeret and me in the kiryu,
we'd seen more of each another. For the irs tine in years, he seamed lo have
fond a sense of peace, und fulfillment, in his personal life, That was m large
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pant because of Bruria Shaked, bis girlfriend, whom he'd met while
commanding the tank unit fier 1973. While be was a thinker and a brooder and
in many ways a loner, Bruria was outgoing, playful, funny and full of life, She
sensed his need for a shonlder 1o lean on, i hand lo hold al the movies or on i
Satucday stroll on the beach. They made their apartment & home. The shelves
crezked under the weight of Yoni's books. Often on a Saturday. when Nava and
Udropped in 10 see them, au old 33 rpm record would be playing on the stereo.
Yoni would be sitting pulling vn his pipe, reading, and smiling.
But outside this domestic haven, he still struggled. [Te had looked forward to
commanding Sayeret Matkal, But there wis a grown distance between him
wid those hie fed. a kind of dissonance between these more typically Isai
youngsters and the aloof. reflective. intellectual side of their commander. There
was anather tension as well Sayeret training was notoriously tough, Yoni
earned Lhe admiration of his mea by participating personally in the most
difficult of the excceises. But just as he pushed himself Lo his limits, he insisted
relendlessly on seeing the same drive in them. This was a challenge all sayeret
commanders faced to some extent. | had, oo. But a number of the officers had
onc 10 the Aira to urge that Yoni be replaced. Ile knew this. Though I tried to
reassure hi. telling him that every sayeret commander was ditferent. with his
own strengths and weesknesses. he becime only more determined to push
limsel (and those around him harder.
No we were ia the final countdown for Tntebbe. Tt was a life-or-death
mission not just for us, but the hostages, an operation in which even a second’s
hesitation or tension or uncertainty could prove fal. 1 was worried that the
sumblings of uncasiness in the unit might prove an additional obstacle that
wasn't worth the risk
When | ined lo pensusde Kuti lo stick with the original plan, however, he
was ingistent. 11¢ told me 10 get ready 0 My not inw Uganda. but to Nairobi. ('d
been re-assigmned to accompany a Mossad team to Kenya. Our first task would
be 10 gel the answers to the questions Rabin had asked us, Then, we would bem
cliarge of ranging for the Ketyaus tw allow us to refuel the C-130s ou the way
out, and to setup a medical facility for any injured soldiers oc hostages. During
the attempted rescue, | would ilso be the chamiel of communications from the
Nairobi side of the aperstion lo Kuti. lens of thousands of fect ahove Eniebbe in
a command 707. Dan, as overall commander, would be in charge on the ground
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xoxo
The Kenyans were not exactly allies of Israel. But relations between
President Jomo Kenyuttu’s security services ind Mossud had been close for
some years. T flew in with theee leading Mossad men. While one of them called
on the aging President Kenyaea, our main point of contact, was the head of
Kenya's security services, Since the secrecy of the mission had to be preserved,
we couldn't make advance preparations for refueling or the additional 707
which we intended to fly in as a field hospital. But he smoothed the way for us
to do both, withaut anyone asking too many questions,
The Mossad men took The lend in anangmg lo get Rabnts questions
answered. They contacted 2 pilot they knew. The pilot flew to Entebbe carly on
Saturday moming, circled, and, after he was cleared to land. claimed
cchanical difficulties and few oul again. | had his telephoto pictures by mid-
morning and phoned Rabin’s intelligence officer to let him know we'd
confirmed there was a clear path to the ald terminal, We still had to make sore
the captive passengers were there, however. A nurse from Kampala who had
been allowed ww visit them made three further visits: late Saweday afternoon,
then shortly after the first Hercules had raken off from Sharm al-Sheikh, and
finally round nine ut night, | was able ta reussure Rabin that the question to his
seeond question was also “yes”. Although all of the C-1305 were weady
airborne, it was only then that he pave the mission the final go-ahead.
As commander of Sayeret Matkal, I'd always found running an operation
from a command post hugely frustrating. | his was even worse. Once we got
word the Tseaeli force was on the way to Usanda, we put in place the
arrangements for refueling. [f all went well. the first C-130, with Yoni's assault
team and at least some of the hostages, was duc to reach Entebbe and beg the
assault at midnight Saturday. Assuming there were no major problems. it would
take an hour at most. All £ could do now, from 300 miles away, was wait.
Shartly atter midnight, Kuti radioed me with a terse message: the first of the
Uercules had left Lotebbe for Nairobi, and the command plane was returning 1
Israel. About quartet to one in the morning on July 4. the transport planes began
their staggered arrival, When the first Hercules taxied to a halt, | went out to
meet it As ils giant rear door lowered, Dan was the first person | saw. | could
tell from the awkward silence, the lack of any greeting, something must have
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gone wiong. “Thud,” he said ually, “Yoni's dead. We got the hostages oul
But Yoni was killed.
[sought out two other friends: Moolcie and Ephraim Sneh, the Battalion 890
doctor, who had been with us at the Chinese Farm, Both were obviously tam
between a sense of accomplishment iu having freed the hostages and the blow
of losing: Yoni. I asked Ephraim to take me to the ront of the plane’s huge belly
fo see im, He was on # stretcher, covered with a blinket, [peeled it back.
Yoni's face had lost all color. Bul when | wuehed his forehead, it seemed
slighty warm, almost as if there was still a spark of life inside him.
[couldn't rise Kuti by radio, so 1 used the landline in the airport director's
office fo phone Molla,
“Yoni is dead.” Told him.
“Are you sure?" he asked. [ said: “Yes. I've seen him
Before the transport planes began leaving for trac, made another call. I
was 10 Nava. She was asleep. | wld her that the upecation wo free the hostages
had succeeded. “But Yoni has been killed.” 1 could hear her rasp. “Listen.” 1
sand, “you have 10 ro downstairs, ‘Tell Bruria, Before some army officer shows
wpa her door. Or worse, because they're not marsied. no one may come and
shell hear it on the radio. Go. Tell her. Stay with her.” At first, she seemed not
so much unwilling as unsble to do it, “What can [sap Usaid knew how bird
it would be, but that she needed to make sure Bruria heard thie news from a
friend. Later, Nava told me she'd waited until daybreak. not wanting to make
things worse by waking her, Then, she went downstairs, She told Rruria what
had happened, stayed with her, talloed with her, und held her, during those Grst
few awful hours.
I found Yoni's death even more upsetting when 1 learned from Mookie and
others how it had happened. As the sayercl motoreads: hen making its way
from the Lereules to the teeminal, with Mookic and Yoni in the Mercedes, two
Ugandan soldiers had seen them. One of the Ugandans raised his rifle. Rather
thin relying an Mookie’s assurances he soldice wouldnt setually fire, Yoni nd
another soldier shot him with their silenced Berelias. But they'd only wounded
him. Tn case he managed to fire back, another soldier in the Jeep behind them
Killed him, with his we-sifenced machin gn,
Now that all surprise was gone, the commandos abandoned their vehicles
and began sprinting: towards the old terminal, Only seconds later, still 80 yards
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or 0 [rom the terminal. Yoni was hit. Tied been shot front the control tower. [
realized that unexpeeted setbacks or slip-ups were inevitable in any operation.
But the crucial first stage of the attack had not only gone wrong, 1t bad gone
wramgz in exacrly the wity that we bid first discissed buck a he sayeret base,
and now Yoni was dead because of iL.
I had to remain in Kenya for a few more days. Though we'd rescued 102
passengers and crew, three of the hostages hid been killed in the crossfire.
While most of the injuries 1o the others were minor, we amanged 10 have several
of the more seriously wounded taken to a Nairobi hospital. So 1 was unable ro
join the gathering of hundreds on Mount Herzl in Jerusalem for Yoni's funcrul
Or 10 hw Shimon Peres praise bin in lerms [knew oust have Alled bis parents
and Bibi, wo, with enormous pride. Shimon described him as “one of Israel's
finest sons, one of its most courageous warmiors, ane of its most promising
commanders.”
I'he fiest evening | was back, however, [visited hie Netanyahus at thei
family home in Jerusalem: Ben-Zion and Tila, the parents: Ido, the youngest of
the three children, nd Bibi, who was still al MIT. 1 was a few nights m the
shiva, the seven days of mourning, and there were dozens of wher well-
wishes there as well. I spoke to Bibi first, outwardly strong but I sensed still
overwhelmed by their loss, Hugging im, 1suid the weeks abead would be
Tough, not just because of Yoni®s death, but because much of the respousibility
of providing emotional support for his parents. both in their sixties, would fall
on his 26-year-old shoulders, This was the first time 17d met the father, Ben-
ion, face to face, but | was struck by how this balding, professorial Tigre
seemed able 10 keep inside the pain and loss be must have been feeling. Tle did
clearly know of me. both from Bibi and from the frequent letters always wrote
10 him at Comell. Now, afler I'd suid what {conte to comfort him, be asked
whether we could meet again. When wee did, a few days later, be was clearly
conscious of the his late, lost son's beureeoning place in Ismel's pantheon of
mations] heros. He asked me 1a be ane of the speakers al Yom's shloshim, 4
conuuemorative eval in Jerusalem which. in Jewish religious wradition. would
mark the end of the first month of mourning. “You knew him well.” he said, and
praceeded to stress the impartance of using my remarks fo explain, and
elaborate un, Youi's powerful accomplishments and personal legacy.
thought about what he wanted. and about Yoni himself, in the days ahead.
About the fragedy of his death, but also the way m which ull of us now bud to
draw meaning, value, and ideally something of permanence from the feelings of
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Toss. As T prepared my notes, 1 also spent time working out how to square what 1
felt T needed to say, with what many in the audience, and cenainly Ben-Zion
and Rib, would exper me 10 say. Not only was Yeni being mourned across
tne aller Enlebbe. He was being elevated — in the spirit of Shimons words al
the funeral ~Lo something approaching sainthood. [ did aol want to detract from
his evolving stars as national hero, or his importance as a symbol of a
cominiando success which had, for the fiest time since the 1973 war, restored a
meesuce of laracli sense of self-confidence. A vietory, over all logic aud all
odds. But [ also wanted to find a way of capturing Yoni as he really was: a
brave man, an extraordinary fighter and officer. But alsa a man sometimes
Reeling tor inside, and alone.
Thegan with words of ancient rabbinic wisdom about the path which all of us
travel from birth fo death, and to whatever comes after. The quatatian [ chose
from the 2,000-year-old volume known as Pirked Avot, the Ethics of our Fathers
— seemed right o me. “Know where you came from: 2 puicid drop... Kaow
where you are going: to a place of dust, maggots and warns... And know before
whom yon re destined 1 give your final accom, the King of Kings.” | spoke
al the loss of Yoni, and said it was impossible not to think about the meaning of
what lay between the “putrid drop” where each of us begins our life and our
final seckoning. “Cbeheve that Hl is wot just sum of the hours and days
between the beginning and the cad. 11 is the content we pout inw the space in
between,” I said. I'd known people who were given the gift of a long life but
who, by that definition, had hardly lived at all. There were also people like
Yoni. l1e*d lived cnly bricily. But he had learned and loved. Fought and trained
others to fight. Grappled with the most profound puzzles of existence, and yet
remained apen “to the wonders of a smile. A journey. A flower. A poem.” If
there was any consolation for a life ended cut off at age 30, Usaid, that was it.
But T wanted to give a more personal, nuanced picture of the life that he, aod
we. and lost. “Our Yoni... We have seen hint torn becween his passion for
Knowledge on the one hand, and the sense of mission and of personal fulfillment
that he found in uniform. There was the Youi of histocy and philosophy hooks:
Plato and Marx. Wha sav the history of Israel not just as 2 compendium of
facts. but a source of inspiration, and a call for action. The Yoni who rebuilt a
tank baualion reduced tw ashes and dust on the Golan. And there was the Yoai
at peace. Tranquil. At home. With his pipe and his phonograph records. out of
uniform. We saw him in his hours of supreme achievement and satisfaction. We
saw him, foo, sometimes standmg alone, with pin m his hit, bitmg bis teh,
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carrying the heavy, lonely burden of commanding the very fighters who be was
leading when he (ell.
“We have seen him on fae bartletield. engaging the enemy, heading into a
test of fire with conrayee and wisdors znd his indomitable spirit the very
essence of the spirit that made possible the operation in which he would lose his
le." Because, make no mistake. [ said: beyand the weapons used, the people
who participated, the training and exercises before the fleet of Hercules had
taken off: heyoud the fine balance required in the planning, execution, and
decision-making; it was “this spirit, this essence. that was tested at Entebbe.”
When 1 sa Yani's family afterwards, though they thanked me for my
semuntls, [contd see thal they were sill bloedmg inside. 1 am suse tha a Rected
they way they related to Bruria. Tven before Yoni met her. he had told me how
hard his parents were finding his separation from Tutti. Bruria uftended the
Timeral und the shloxfin. Bu she ida’ sit wath the family, think that with the
shack of his death, mixed with the pride they fel at his cmerzence as a national
hero, they found it ditficult to include her. a woman they hardly knew, in their
moumime.
A few weeks later, go a call from the Netanyahn nily’s lawyer, Erwin
Shinron. It was an odd. rambling conversation. Ile seemed to insinuate that, as
her and Yoni’s neighbor and friend, [ was encouraging fae unwelcome ide that
Brutia was pant of the immediae circle of the bereaved, tit this mere girl fiend
was somehow his widow. [le wanted me to withdraw whatever mantle 1 might
be providing, and help separate her fram Yoni and his legacy, He went so far us
10 ay that one reason he was calling me was because hie didn’t want lo bisve to
take “legal steps to make that happen. 1 saw no point in getting into an
argument, 1 sensed thar, while it would fake time for the grief felt by those
closest 10 Yoni lo begin lo heal, the wssue wonld gradually resolve scl Bul 1
saw even less point in leading the lawyer 10 believe | would do what he was
supesting,
“Mr Shimron,” {told him, “1 lmew Yani, 1 know Bruriu. | do not know you,
But T have a musical ar. T don’t like the undertone Thear in what you've been
saying. I've seen them close up. Bruria gave Youi, at a critical time in his lite,
prabably more warmth thin he ever received from any other human being,”
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Chapter Eleven
Yet despite Dntebbe, the trauma of the Yom Kippur War. and the cracks it
had shaken loose in Israeli society and politics, were ye to play themselves out.
The hostage reseue was like a sugar rush, an intoxicating reminder that the army
till had the capacity foc initiative and precision. audacity and quick-fire victory
Tike our air strikes in the first hours of the 1967 War, Bur the real reckoning
over 1973 was whoul 10 come. 1 wonkd change Israel beyond recogmtion, with
repercussions still being felt today. IL would deamatically alter the course of my
life as well
[still remember the moment it hit home, on the evening of My 17, 1977. As.
Neva und | watched i our finy living vom in Ramat Hasharon, Chaim Yavin,
the anchorman on the country’s only TV channel, was handed an exit poll from
Israel's latest national election, He bean with three words: Gviriai verahoia,
Mahapakh. “Ladies and Gendemen, revolution.” For the first time since the
state was declared. Tseael's government would not be in the hands of David
Ben-Gurion or his Labor Zionist heirs, Our next prime minister would be
Menachem Begin, wha had inherited the mantle of Jabotinsky’s Revisionist
Zionism. Tle'd headed ifs youth wing, Bear, in eastern Europe, and led the
Irpun Zvai Leumi, the main right wing militia force before 1948. Lacking the
intellectual depth and subilery of Jabutsinky a liberal intcllecinal who, among
ater things. translated Dante into Hebrew — Begin drew his political strength
from his powerful oratory. and a refusal to countenance any compromise in
sceurmy whl he viewed as he ultimate goal: a Jewish state in all of biblical
Palestine, from the Mediterrancan to the Jordan River, with whatever military
force was necessary to secure and sustain it.
But perhaps Yavin should have used a different metaphor in his dramatic
election-night broadcast: reidat adamah, an carthquake. Begin's victory, afler
the loss of eight straight elections over three decades, was the culmination of
seisinic rumblings which liad been building for years. The big, decisive, shock
wes the 1972 war. Yel this was not just because of the colossal intelligence
failure, or the mysiad errors of our militacy commanders and political leaders. Tt
was the fundamental loss of fru in the cosy, self-perpetuating establishment
hit had dominated ull aspects of Grech polis, soerety and culture from the
start: Palmachniks like Rabin and Dado; political players like Golda and
Shimon Peres; 1laganalh veterans lie Dayan and Bar-Lex: and, of course. the
Kibbutzmik ploncers. Almost all wer: of Hast European background
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Ashkenazin — and their prominence and privilege had stoked increasing
resentment anong Isael’s disadvantaged Sephardi majority, with theic cots in
the Arab world and especially north Africa.
Bein not only sensed this, While he'd never lost the formal bearing or the
accent — from his childhood in Poland, his loug years in Iseacl’s political
wildemess mimored the wider exclusion felt by the Sephardi. The last election
he had lost. in December 1973, proved too soon for the carth tw part. But he told
his suppress: “liven though Labour has won these elections, afier something
like the Yom Kippur War happens to a country, and to a government, they must
lose power. They wilf lose power,” He was night, Only twice in the four decades
that followed would a Labor leader defeat Begin's Likud party: Rabin’s election
victory in 1992, and mine over Bibi Netanyahu jn 1999.
During the first twa vears of Begin's rule, however, | was 7,000 miles away.
Ten days before the election, 17d gone fo see Mot, and hed agreed tha 1 could
return wo Stanloud, 10 finish what I'd bacely begun when the 1973 war broke out.
[nad been in the amy, with the ane hiatus as a sayeret reservist at Hebrew
University, sme the see of seventeen, [did not regret committing myself to
life in uniform. But Stanford offered an extraordinary opportunity lo broaden
my horizons. Even in the tew weeks 1d spent there before the war, I'd felt
reinvigorated. It engaged o different kind of meelhigence, a different part of who
was: the books, the professors. A chance to listen to, and al least uy 10 play.
beautiful music. And to spend more than a few stolen evenings or weekends
with my family,
The timing hae nothing 10 do with the election. ike most other hor
Israelis, and many of Begin's own supporters, I hadn't expected the Likud to
win, It was because [ felt I'd reached a natural punctuation mark in my military
curcer. I'd led Sayerer Matkal. 1°d commanded a tank company, 3 bitualion in
1973. and, more brictly than 1'd hoped, the 4017 Brigade aller the war, I'd speat
the last twa vears in the kiya, The next step up the command chain would be to
lead i full armored division. But at wee 35, | was probably toa young, und |
figured I'd have a far better chance in wo years’ time. | also feared losing the
chance 10 go to Stanford altogether. Motta’s term as chief of staff would end the
following year. Among those m the frame ta succeed him was Rafial Fitan,
Recalling Raful’s dismissive, almost sneering, opposition to my makiug the
Sayeret Matkal into Israel's SAS. [wasn't exactly confident I could count on
his support.
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Reluctant though I'd been 10 leave the 401 for the kirva, Thad partioulacly
enjoyed the last year. | was promoted to Shai Tamaris job, in charge uf the
intelligence team for our military operations, when Shai left to command a tank
bagade. My office was no longer on the thivd (oor, bul m the underground
bunker, the bor. [wes part oF nearly all high-level planning meetings, oflen with
Motta, sometimes also including Peres. Almost everyone around the table was
alder than me, and owrenked me by some distance. Yel with my intelligence
brief, 1 was ofien the one with the most thorough command of the details.
Though still just a colonel, I'd risen through Sayeret Matkal. 1 knew the
planning process trom the other side as well, having attended the same sort of
meetings, from the carly 1960s, Wo present our operations. So | was oficu asked,
and always welcome, to weigh in on what would work, what wouldn't, and
why.
My final yea in the Airy also lucther cemented my relationship with Motta.
Though as chief of stall, be tended to keep a formal distance from all but his
fellow penerals, he did seem to enjoy having me around. Ile even put me in
charge of wnew depatment of my own. Not officially. The *depunmen” was
strictly ad hoe, as was the name which Motta gave it: Mishugas. The Yiddish
word for craziness.
All army commanders, in all countries, receve their shire of imsolicited
advice. Bu [can’t imagine any of them gets the number, or sheer range, of wild
suggestions which make their way 10 the kirva. Cverything from levitation
michines, to ideas for making tanks fly. Motta didn’t have the time to read all
ihe fetes, much less sit down with the self-styled mventors or sages who
showed up in person. Still, he couldn't be suce that a jewel of an idea wasa't
lurking inside one of them. As an insurance policy, he began sending all the
letters, und every supplicant, to me
Lnever found Lhe jewel. he most vivid memory have is ofa visit from a
former soldier in Shasked, Israel's Negev reconnaissance and tracking unit, He
had taken np meditation, und the study of ancient civilizations, Fresh from i
period of contemplation iu the desert, he arrived in my office with a pamphlet
he'd written. Tt was about special-forces strategy and waining, as practiced eight
ceniuries carher, in the time of Genghis Khan,
listened for sierly am hour, enjoying his enthusiasm, the listory lesson, and
the simple weirdness of it all. I did check his facts afterwards. If nothing else, he
proved an wssiduous student of the Mongols. He explamed lo me tha in heir
largest battles, involving tens of thousands of troops, they would designate a
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commando uni of a couple of dozen men. Tis sole task was Lo seek out and kill
the caemy force's leader. The key io their success was mind-tcaining, Over a
period of months, sometimes years, the commandos” seif-percepiion was
altered. They were Taught lo believe tian they bid already died. Since theit lives
an earth were done, all that remained was a formal passage through the tunstile
into eternal happiness. and to go out in glory. My visitor not only suggested that
trae] establish exactly this kind of death-cum-suicide unit. He volunteered to
cain the men himself, and lead the fist mission. With as straight a face as |
could muster, 1 thanked him for taking the time fo see me. But I told him his
idea was probably not for us. Little did [ know that a whole new kind of enemy,
epitomized by Al-Qaeda and the sel styled [slamic State, vould build a
terrorist death cult around it
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Nava aad I. with three-year-old Yas], and Michal just turning seven. left for
Cahfonma in the lale summer of 1977. The two years that lollowed were
uplifting and reinvigorating — aot just because of Staaford. but a fucther, utterly
unexpected transformation back home soon after we'd left.
It, 100 had 1s roots m the 1973 war, but on the Arab side, Before the war,
Egypi’s Anwar Sadat hed extended feelers sbout the possibility of peace
negotiations, only to see them ignored. Israel won the war in the end. But the
Kiyptians” surprise aftuck ueross the canal and the panic and huge Israeli
losses i the early days of the war — had shared our ana of invineibiliy.
Politically. Sadat had gone a long way lo erasing the humiliation of 1967. That
freed him to do something which — after decades of Arab-Israeli contlict was
wstomishing. He travelled fo Jerusalem, The capital of w country which neither
Ceypt nor any other Arab country even recognized. Tle met Begin, and he
addressed the Knesset with a call for peace
11 is impossible to convey To Tsractis who did not live through the bizth of The
state, and our lumultuous carly decades. the power of the emotions stirred by
Sadat’s visic. It was on November 19. 1977. With my arm around Nava. T
watched the five American television coverage us Sadit’s plane touched down
a Ben-Gurion uivport. Begin was at the center of the thong of dignitaries on
hand to greet hin: a who's who of political and military leaders not just from
his administeation, but who bid led Issel in 1967 and 1973. Golda was there.
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Rabin, 100, pulling fuciously on his cigaretie. When the erect figure of Sadat
emerged, there was spontancous applause, and a serenade from [sracli army
frumpeters,
Even before Sadat’s Knesset address the next day, | understood that his visil,
his willingness to make the first, bold move loward a possible peace, marked
Just the beginning of a difficult negotiating road. Bur there was one passage in
his speceh that touched me especially. He ran through the history of how Fgypt
and other Asab states had not just Fought Israel, but denied our right 10 exist ag a
state. “We used to brand you as so-called Israel.” he said. Now, the leader of
our most important Arab enemy declared: “You want to hive with us m this purt
of the world. In all sincenity, [ell you that we welcome you among us, with full
security and safety.”
The formula he proposed was straightforward. Fizypt would agree to a full
peace, scceptmye and formally recopmzng the stale of [sracl. But Israel would
have w withdraw from all Avab land captured in (967, including “Arab
Jerusalem.” We would also have to accept the “rights of the Palestinian people
fo selidetermination, including ther right 1 establish thar own state.” Bogin's
seply was more sensitive than I'd expected from a leader who, through my
Labor kibbutnzik eyes, [°d always seen as an extremist, unwaveringly
committed 1o 1 “greater Isvel”, Though he did make it clear his views on the
shape: of an eventual peace differed trom Sadar’s, he proposed further talks with
the aim of finding an agreement both sides could live with. Still, like all Tsraelis,
[knew he would never accept at least two of the Figyptian presidents demands:
retreat from our control of w umited Jemsalem or the creation of a Palestiman
state on the West Bank of the Jordan: for Begin. biblical Judaea and Samaria.
On our territorial dispute with Ceype, 1 did believe a deal was possible. I
did’ expect us to rolum all of the Sinai, i only becuse 1 eouldn’t sce Beg
agreeing Lo iL For sceurity reasons, 1 also fell we should Uy 1o old on to a pair
of air force bases built atter 1967, with American help, just a few miles over the
Negev border, But as for fhe rest, | saw no reason not lo give it back. As Ud told
Motta afice ihe 1973 war, I'd long believed [sracl bad lost sight of the original
reason we'd held onto the Sinai after 1967. Tt was supposed to be a huge, sandy
sceunty buffer. IF we did manage to make peace with Fizypt, there was surely no
reason Lo hold vu fo iL.
The moment of truth came almost exactly 10 months later, in September
1978. American President himmy Carter hosted a swnmil with Began and Sadat
at Camp David. in search of a “framework agreement” for final negotiations on
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a peace Lseaty. Again, [ was watching closely, via American TV. But as the
summit was winding down, our phone suddenly rang in Palo Alio.
“Ehud, how's it goin? Are you following what's happening here? What do
you think?
recognized the voice immediately: Fz Weizman, the fone fighicr pilo!
Begin had chosen as his defense minister. ['d known Ezer since the early 1960s,
when he'd been commander of the air force and Sayeret Matkal was planning
its first operations. Sul, even though be had & reputation foc batting ideas back
and foreh cntside the bounds of hierarchy or chain of command, 1 was startled to
hear from him,
“What do 1 think about what?” | said.
“The solution we’ve arcived at here, We found there was no way bul to give
bak everything.” The only exception was Taba, u sliver of land where the
Negev mel the enstem edge of the Sinai, across rom the Jordanian lown of
Aqeba.
“Was there 10 way to convince them, even with some kind of a land swap, to
Keep the two uir buses?” 1 asked.
“Believe me, we wanted fo,” Ezer replied. “But no way. Nol if we were
going to get a peace treaty.”
So I said the obvious; if that’s what was necessary for peace, there was no
ater choice:
We were now well into our final year at Stanford. Our home was in a leafy
“student village” off cumpus, called Escandito, for married students from
abrond. Our two-storey Mal wiss one of row of cabin-like stiuctures: a bit like i
Kibbutz. only smaller, American-style. a lol moe upmarket. IL had a fenced-ofl
play area for the children and, in a common room for all the village residents. an
upright piano.
1 found the richness of the academic environment — and the tine 10 explore
and savor it enthralling. I'd chosen my master’s program at Stanford because
it offered the etme 10 leam across a range of different schools and disciplines.
The official home for my degree courses was the School of Ligincering, in a
department called “Engineering: Teonomic Systems” Ts focus was on applying.
mathematical modelling and analysis to decisson-making m “large and complex
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arpanizations” such as private companics of government deparnents. OF the
armed forces of Tsrael. The theorists at Stanford were leaders in the field
But from the start, | was drawn to other disciplines as well: business,
ceonomics, political science, history. sociology, psychology. 1 studied game
theory al the business school, and the evolution of political systems under the
sociologist Seymour Martin Lipset. 1 alsa went to lectures by James G. March,
on haw psychological, social ind ather factors mfluenced decrsion-makmy 1
psticubirly enjoyed leaning (fom Professor Ames Tyersky. Born in Haifa, he
was half of an academic partnership with the psychologist Daniel Kahneman,
who was ulso Israchi, They were myestigating the effect of human bias and ofher
subjective factors an how we perceive reality, and thins make decisions.
Tuersky s work especially fascinated me, because il questioned a basic
assumption in the kind of predictive formulas my own department was
advancing: tha we make choices rationally, caloulating the outcomes of
competing altenatives. Tversky had found that the human beaia didn’t always
work that way. For choices with a fairly obvious outcoue — 90 percent of cases.
say the assiumption dic hold. But at the win, the bridn did, or couldn't,
always gauge the implications of a decision accurately. A couple of decades
later, he would also show that aa individual's choice could vary significantly
depending on the way the options were presented.
These behavioural and psyeliological approaches were at odds with what was
being taught in my home feeulty. Tis prevailing orthodoxy was that by using.
specifically desumed interview techniques, alongside mathematical modelling
al the predicted outcomes, we could isolate the effect of human agency on low,
and what, decisions were made. Yet the wider my studies had ranged, the more
sceptical I became tha the complexities of human decision-making could be
aceommadaied by such models. {also saw problems in the methodology we
were using. Siace it was based pactly oa interviews with participants in the
decision-making process, it seemed to me that this introduced a subjective
clement into our ostensibly objective conchisions.
My department wasn’t enamared with ty views ou our modeling approach.
But ane of the things T most valued about iy time in Stenford was that, far from
discouraging my excursions mio other departments, my professors combined i
confidence in their own approsch with a genuine open-mindeduess to other
ideas: the hallmark of true intellectuals. and of gseat universities.
1 got something chic From my sindies a Stanford, although | didn't speak
about it at the time. uot even to Nava. [ became aware that [hed a particular
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aptitude for focusing on the minute details of a problem, yet never losing sight
of the farger picture, he wider issues. From my experience as commander of
the sayeret and during the 1973 war, and fram watching other officers whom 1
sespeeted, it struck me thal this was un essential part of elfeenve leadership,
By “leadership”, at thal stage in my life, | did not mean political leadership. |
was thinking in terms of the army. But 1'd now finished my masters degree, and
it was impossible to be umiware of the political cones in which 1°d be
seturning Ww uniform. Since Camp David, our negotiators and the Egyptians had
been ying to thrash out a formal deal. Sadat was being denounced as a traitor
in the Arab warld, Begm was seen by most in the outside world, and many.
Tsauclis, as dragging his feet on the negoliations und risking the chance for peace
altogether. If we did manabge w sign a peace treaty, however, we would be
withdrawing for the first time from land captured in 1967, That would mean
finding a new approach to security in the south, as well as a new [ous on the
majorly of ou Arab acighbors who were ailing against Sadat and seemed loss
interested than ever in making peace.
In some ways, it was harcl to leave ont mini-kibbutz in Palo Alle. Michal.
now neady ive, had rived, quickly leaming English and coding up with a
pertectly American accent which has never lett her. Yael has less vivid
memories of our time there, But we'd had the nearest thing fo a normal family
life since our first, war-truncated, time al Stanford. During the wiversity
holidays, we'd also wavelled: to Canada. Mexico. Lake Tahoe. Even Las Vegas,
where, thankfully, we lacked the money ta chance our luck, but where my years
in the sayeret suddenly came in handy. We spent the day al Cireus Cireus, a
joint casino-and-theme park tailored for families with kids. At a shooting
sallery in the anwsement area, [ had no trouble landing dead-center hits on a
pussinig procession of metal geese, 10 ihe consternation of the wy behind the
counter but the delight of my two young daughters. Tn probably the single
‘ereatest moment of parental accomplishment I'd experienced since their birth. 1
barged i hnge fluffy eddy bear for sich of them.
oan
{returned to Iseacl not just with the hope. but a reasonable expectation, that |
would pet command of one of 1stael’s two regular armored divisions: the 252",
which wis responsible for defending the sonth and, al feast for now, was based
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inn the Sinai. Dan Shomson was cow head of the southern command and had wold
me, before we headed back (rom Califoraia, that he'd recommended me for the
post. It was an especially exciting prospect because the LS-backed negotiations.
with Egypt did finally sppear to be nesring sn sgreenient. As commnder of
Division 252, I'd be coordinating aod implenienting IscacP’s Sinai withdrawal
But I didn’t get the job. at least not on my requrn. Rafiul Citan had indeed
succeeded Matta us chief of stafY, and he bad the final say. Ud evidently been
sight Lo assume [would figure no higher in his estimation than | had as sayeret
commander. To be fair. however. he did agree to my becoming commander of
Dan's reserve division in the south; the same 611" that Arik Sharon had led
eros the canal in 1973. When © took up thal post in April 1979 — just days
after the formal Tscaeli-Cgyplian peace Lreaty was indeed signed — 1 was also
pramated, 1 became «one-star general. And eighteen months later, when the
regular division post came open agaio, 1 did get the nod tw command the 252%
Liven then, it was a elose-nun thing. Raful called me in 10 see him aod said he
wanted me to return ta fe kirye instead, in fae one-star general's post inside
mifiary intelligence. He said be had more than cnongh candidates for division
commander, but thal my previous experience meant | was the best choice for the
intelligence post. [ was determined to remain in the field. especially with signs
thst Begin, und certamly his more right-wing supports im fhe |ikud, were
already having second thonghts about the peace deal we'd struck with Egypt. In
par, they feared that a withdrawal from azy of the land taken in the 1967 wa
might create « precedent, and invite pressure, for mare withdrawals, But the real
buyers’ remorse centered an he Gael that, as pert of the initial agreement at
Camp David. Begin had needed tw aceept a parallel framework for negotiations
toward a broader peace that would include the West Bank and Gaza
Palestinians.
In any case, with Raful balking a second time at giving me the division
command, [ figured I had little to Tose by fightinh my comer, and telling him
exactly what 1 felt. “Took, [ realize hal you're che of staff,” suid. “But don’t
forget we're Dark just temporarily in whatever role we hold. I'm not here as a
drafiee. I'm in the army by choice. I's your decision to tell me what position
you want me to take. But you can’t inpose anything, | ean always kav, Or 1
can bide my time until vou leave.” Raful apparently concluded he couldn't
actually force me to take the intelligence job. With Daa having made his
preference clear, he didn’t press the point.
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My main responsibility as commander of the 252% was to implement the
withdrawal from the Sinai. Israel had commitied itself to bring all of our Forces
behind the 1967 border within net twa years, and, along with Dan, [ threw my
energy into planing and implementing the tems of the treaty. Bul especially
with Begia soon (acing & reelection campaign against Laboe, now led by
Shimon Peres, he was keen to play to the opponents of any further negotiating.
concessions. le was positioning himself as the voice of military streugth, and
painting Peres es someon who would risk our security by going further than
he separate peace with Sadat
Beginhad no more experience or knowledge of military details than Shimon.
Bul front his days in he pro-staic (rz, he'd been su nnapologetic admirer of
men of military action. Afler his vieocy in the 1977 election, he'd formed a
government stocked with some of [srael’s best-known former generals, Not just
Ezer Weizman. Tle'd brought back Moshe Dayan, as foreign minister. And as
agriculture minister, the country’s most swashbuck ingly self-confident, and
controversial. battlefield commander: Arik Sharon. Begin liad recently lost both
Free und Dayan, who sicensed lm of defiberatedly tomedoing shinee of
building on the peace with Egypt. But Arik was sill there, fouc-squae behind a
more forceful military posture on Israels other fronts. As agriculture minister,
he had abso heen the draving force in a plan for selllement “blocs” desigaed 10
encircle the main Arab towns and cities on the West Bank and foreclose any
realistic prospect of a Palestinian state.
After Begin's second election victory, in June 1981. some commentators,
and miy in Labor, insisted thal he'd won becase of a dremalic surprise iic
strike. a ew weeks before election day. against a Trench-built nuclear reactor
outside Baghdad. 1 never believed that. in pact because I knew fiom intellipence
Friends that the atiack had been sci for carl, smd was pu buck because of fears
he plan might become public. But mostly because of what witnessed in the
heart of Tel Aviv the night before the election. when I joined one of my top
alficens, a Likudoile, at Begin's fin campaign rally.
Shimon sill had a uarrow ead iu the polls. hadn't been at his closing cally.
the previous evening. But like the rest of Israel, I'd heard and read about it, in
particubir the wammeup wet: a popular, solidly pro-1abor comedian and actor
named Dudu Topi. Greeting the crowd. he'd said what a pleasure it was that it
was not full of chachachin. The word was sagering Tsracli slang: for uncouth,
uncultured Sephardim, not fa from the equivalent of using the “n” word in
America. In a single sentence, he’d managed to sum up everything the
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Sephardim rescaled about the Ashhenaci, Labor Zionist establishment. Begin, at
his cally, played it like a virtuoso. “Did you hear what they called you?” he
cried. Chachachim, He slightly mispronounced the ward, as if he'd never heard,
sue fess used, 1 before, und that even having to wept 1 mide Ins blood
curdle. “18 that what you are?” There was pandemonium, Maybe Begin would
have won anyway. But it was close. just one Knesset seat berween the twa
major parties. And win, he did
I became increasingly convinced in the weeks tha Tollowed that Begin’s
second government. with Arik now moved to defense minister, would turther
put the brakes on any follow-up negotiations for a deal with the Palestmians, |
did not yet know that Arik, in particular, had s fr more ambitious, military plan
10 try 10 bury the possibility of a Palestinian state once and for all. But T did
know he had his eyes on a passible thrust across our northern horder into
Lebanon, where Acafat and the PLO were based.
I here was no public mention of any of this. But several times in 1981, | was
ordered to mave a large part of my division onto the Golan Heights for weeks at
wrime: two brigades, 200 tanks and dozens of APCs in a missive motored
from the bottom 10 the lop uf the country and back again. We dubbed it
Cincrama, from the Hebrew words tor Sinai and the Heights, Rameh. If there
was an eseilution of hostilities, the northem commands regular division would
cross into Lebanon, Our role would be 10 take their place in defending the
Golan. and possibly follow them in.
When | retumed fram my final episode of Cinerami in the late summer of
1981, thie Sima witheawal was cutering its final stage. 1 organized a full-scale
military exercise on the roughly one-third of the Feyptian desert we still held.
knowing that we’d no longer have the room to do so after the final withdrawal.
Twas the lagest exereise Ud ever commanded. The advamees und tactical
setreats, the flanking maneuvers and ambushes and fighter jot auachs were like
avery big war in a very small place,
But a war game wus not a reul war, The Sma was not hke the Golun, or the
cramped. hilly confines of Lebanon. And it was in Lebanon, the following year,
that the war came. Ir was different from any in Israel's history. Arik was in
charge, And | would become mvalved in ways which began to change the way |
saw not only Arik, but the political and military dircetion of our conniry.
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Chapter Twelve
My own pact in the Lebanon war would change dramatically as a cesult of
that Fast military exercise in the Sinai, Arik Sharon was now Minister of
Defense. and he came for the final alleenoon. From his experience as a frontline
commander — in 1956, 1967 and 1973 - be knew the dunes and wadis and
sprawling expanses of sand us well us any general in Israel, Watching our
intricate mini-war dian 10 its close, he made no effort to hide his enthusiasm Cor
the kind of quick, assertive baulefield maneuvers he'd long championed. But
more than that, his closest aide soon began sounding me out on my views about
the fome-ferm organization, force hakmee and funding for the sel military. A
Rew weeks later, Arik offered me a promotion: & returi lo the Ady, as a two-
star general, to become head of planning: for the armed forces.
Ldon’t know why he chose me: the Sinai exercise perhaps, the fact he knew
1d studied “Farge and complex organizations” of Stanford, or maybe just the
fact our paths had first ecossed two decades eadier whe T was in Sayeret
Matkal, But even though it ment leaving my division command, especially
Tough since the Gal Siviai withdrawal wes approaching il was in offer | never
contemplated Luning down. Not just because of the second star an my uniform,
Ever since the 1973 war. along with a few other senior officers including Dan
Shommron, 1 had been making the ease for a shill to move mobile ind fess
vulnerable forces and weapons sysiems. | saw the new role as a chance to help
encourage that critically important change.
“There was just one hiteh: all senior military assignments required the formal
approval of the chic-of-stafl; my old friend Raful Eitan. Raful did manage wo
delay things for several weeks. At one point, he even brought to bear a quality
Ud never suspected he hid: a sense of humor, “OK, ll agree to promote
Barak.” he lold Arik. The next day, he said he'd met Eitan Barak — a very
goad commander, by the way, who had heen one of my instructors in officers’
school. Aik insisted, however. My appointment went through
And ane, wnsnticited result was that | didn’t just play the field command
solle I'd anticipated, from our Cinerama deployments, in Arik’s loweringly
ambitious, ill-plamed and ultimately disastrous war in Lebanon. | became part
of months of planning discussions m the kirva before our tanks finally rumbled
across the nasthern border on the morning of Jun 6, 1982.
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My new posting came not just as momentum was building towaed an
invasion. It followed on the heels of a major new crisis in our peace with Lgypt
Only weeks before [ gave up my Sinai command, President Amar Sadat was
shot sad killed by an exirermisl Mush officer at the annual Cairo miliuny
parade w mark the anniversary of the 1973 war.
Like many Israelis. I felt an almost familial sense of bereavement. Sadat was
not just the first Arab leader to make peace with Israel, He seemed to
understand ws: people who were ready. willing sud able 10 fight, but waned
above all to live unmolested and accepted by our neighbors. Yet for Begin and
the Lileud, | knew the assassination would ¢ust the whole peace process into
doubt. Sadut’s successor, Vice-President Hosni Mubarak, did make 11 clear he
would abide by the peace Lrealy, defusing calls on the Israeli right for us to
cancel our final withdrawal from the Sinai. But after Sadut’s killing, Begin and
those around him seemed more determined than ever to hold the line against the
wider peace aegotiations ageeed with President Caster and Sadat at Camp
David. At Bepin's insistence, Camp David had not proposed giving the
Pulesiniuns a siaic, but instead “awonomy” and a locally elected “sel
soveraing authority”. Yet that was defined as a teansitional period. The elected
Palestinians were to be included in negotiations for a yer-unspecified “final
stalus” rangement. for the West Bank and Gaze, Tht, Begin feared, fell the
door ajar for something amare than autonomy. Shuting that door, | would soon
discover, was a big part of Arik’s ornate reasoning for invading Lebanon.
Beyond the tact that my new job was a promotion, 1 had a personal reason
Tor welcoming the move back wo Tel Aviv. Te days aller Sadat’s assassination,
Thad endured a [rightening few days succounding the bisth of our third daughuer,
Aunat. The crisis was another reminder that the demands of frontline command
rested wot just on my shoulders, bit my Ganily’s. We hid moved house agsin
early in Nava's pregoancy, 10 the subue of Ra’anana. about 10 miles nocth of
Tel Aviv and a few miles in fiom the coast. We bought one of a newly built row
of small, semi-detached lownbowses which, best of all, bid a backyad. 1 was
tiny by American standards, but was still a place for the girls to play. Onee
apain, however, I wasn't there when my daughter was born. I was rushing north
as Nava went into labor,
“he bisth itself went smoothly. By the time 1 gol to the hospital, both baby
and mother seemed happy and healthy. A few days later. however, when they
were back m the townhouse and 1°d refumed fo my division, Nava felt suddenly,
desperately unwell. T shudder to think what might have happened were it not for
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he fact that one of our new neighbors was a friend from my first military
intelligence stint in the Airy. Tn almost paralyzing pain, Nava phoned him, and
he rushed her to the hospital, It turned out that the doctor wha delivered Anat
Bc fe) prt of the placenta inside. Onee the mislke was discoverad — is | was
again speeding north — be weat back in and rectified it. When I arrived. | was
relieved. to put it mildly, to find Nava smiling bravely, and on her way back to
full health. Sill, doctor friends of mise wld me that it the problem uot heen
diagnosed and addressed quickly, she could have suffered shock, serious
infection, even death
PE
In my new tole, Iwas nominally responsible to both the defense minister and
the chief of staff, but Arik made it clear lo both ne smd Raful thal he was boss
And though my official brief was longer-term planning. almost from day-one
the issue of Lebanon overshadowed all others. 1 kaew. from Cinerama, that
preparations for a possible military operation m Lebanon were mderway. Yet
from my first meeting with Arik aod Raful, it became clear it was move then just
a possibility. “Why the hell is Arafat still alive,” Arik snapped acus. Ile said
that when he'd been commander of Unit 101, he'd never wid for the
government 10 ask him to pla an opesation. 116°d plan it hinusclf, and go lo
ministers for approval. When I told him that I'd done just that when I was
commander of the sayerer, only to be told Arafat was “not a target.” Arik
replied: well, he is now. The PLO leader's cursent residence was on the
southern edge of Beinit, and in the weeks ahead Arik left no doubt that he
meant to go after him there.
To anyone looking from the outside, there was no pressing reason 10 expect a
wer. Tis teue that the potential for conflict was always there. The PLO had
nearly 20.000 fighters in Lebanon and hundreds of rockets capable of reaching
our northim towns ind selllements. The Syrians were there, Too. As part of im
Arab League agreement in 1976 Lo quell two years of terrible civil war between
Lebanon's traditionally dominant Maronite Christians and an alliance of PLO
and 1 ebanese Muslim forces, some 30,000 Syrian troops had been brought in as
the core of a peacekeeping force. But in the summer of 1981, uew US President
Ronald Reagan's Mideast envoy. Undersecretary of State Philip ITabib. had
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brokered a cease-fire to halt Palestinian Katyusha rocket fire into Tscael. Tt was
eencrally holding
But fundamentally, Arik’s war plan was not a response to the Katyushas. [¢
wats a wiry of using military foree to achieve Prime Minister Begins political
wim: stopping the Camp David peace process in ils tracks, aud ensuing it did
mot fro beyond the peace treaty with Egypt. And even that message was not
prmcpally intended for the Pulestmians, suspect, bat for the Americans.
Israel's Labor-led governments had always calculated that we needed at least
some measure of support from foreign allies, especially the LUIS. Under Begin,
we'd already bombed Saddam Hussein's nuclear reactor without telling the
Amcricans hofovetand. Shortly atier | reummed to the kira, hie provoked further
anger in Washington by annouacing the de aero annexation of the Golan — in
effect “balancing” our Smai withdrawl with a dramatic reassertion of Israel
control over other land captured in the 1967 war. Part of Acik’s plan in Lebanoa
wes to deliver an even more forceful riposte to any suggestion that we would
aive up control of the West Bank and Gaza.
Yel these polineal aims. which 1 was gradually beginning to grasp in their
full form through my discussions with Aik, were only part of the reason | was
deeply uneasy about the plans for our Lebanon invasion. Having now spent
nearly two decades m the mifitary, [ recopmized tha the seeurity challenge north
of the border was real. | did not believe it was inherently wrong for Begin's
government 10 order a pre-emptive military operation with he aim of ending it
My view, as an army officer, was that the decision on how, when and whether
10 20 Lo war was for our elected government. Bul for that prineipke lo work, |
also believed that government ministers had to know whar they were deciding.
The more we peared up for an invasion. the less certain I became that Begin’s
cabinet understood what we were pling 1o do
Arik’s original plan was codenamed Oraniz: Hebrew ov “pine tees”, It
involved pushing deep into | .ebanan, all the way up ta the strategically critical
road that van between Beit nd Damiscus, We would fink up in Beirut with
the main Maronite Christian force, the Phalangists. whoni we had been
supporting and training for several years. When that plan was presented to
Begin's cabinet at the end of 1981, howaver, most ministers opposed it. Thus
was born Arik’s Plan B, so-called “Lite Pines”. 11s stated aim was a lot more
modest. We would create a “security zone” — a 40-kilometer. or 25-mile, strip
running north of the harder with [.ebanon.
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Teould see that Lids Pines was a kind of fiction. All you had 10 do was take
2 map and draw in the 40-kilometer line. Tn the arcas nearer the Mediterranean,
in the westem und centeal parts of the border area, it indeed covered femitory
contiufled by anned PLO groups. Bil in the sistem scetor, there wore Syrian
positions 2 mere 10 Lo 12 kilometers up from the border, well inside the
“security zone”. Not much further north were two full Syrian divisions. That
meant we'd be fighting not just the Palestinians, which was the ostensible aim
af Lille Pines. We would have 10 take on Syria. Ag soon as dose hostilities
began. we would have to destroy radar and SAM sites in the Syrian-controlled
Beka'a Valley further north into Lebanon. After the first costly days of the 1973
war in the Sinai, we were not about 1o enter a niajor conflict without ensuring,
air superiority. Unless the Syrians retreated or surrendered, the inevitable resulc
would be a wider conlict, not limited to dealing with Palestinian fighters in
south Lebanon but paving the wey for Arik 1 go ahead with his original plan
and push all the way to Beirut
This wasn't tere supposition on ny part. In February 1982, we ran a
simulation exercise in the Kirva based on Plan B. The result: Litt Pins became
Big Pines. A clash with the Syrians proved inevitable, if only because on target
even under Little Pines was the main road between Beirut and Damascus. It lay
well beyond the 40-lalometer hme. As the main sipply ron for theit forces in
the inlerior of Lebanon, it was also of critical importance for the Syrians. So any
idea of a quick, limited strike to establish a security zone was fantasy. A few
days later, Raful chaired a wide-ranging discussion on Lebanon, Near the end of
he session, | asked him directly whether government ministers wert aware that
our war plan “will inevitably lead to a clash with the Syrians”. Raful hesitated
fora second. but then answered briskly: “Yes
“That assurance would tum out to be untrue, But my wider cancer, as the
weeks passed. was Arik's political plan, of which T was getting an ever clearer
idea from him. It struck me as no just rand, but grandiose. Part of it was to
obliterate Arafit as a political force. io by killing lnm then by forcing bim
and every one of his fighters from Lebanon, a eountey Arik wanted to place
under the unchallenged control of the most prominent of the younger generation
of Christian Phalangist politicians, Bashir Gemayel, 1 felt ll that would be
challenging enough. Bul in Asik’s eyes, this was only part of a complete
reordering of our conflict with the Arabs. Tle expected Gemayel s Lebanon to
openly alin itself with [srael and expel all Syrian troops. As for the expelled
Palestinians, they would go back lo Jordin where they would resume and, this
time, win their civil war with King Hussein. The result. with Hussein deposed,
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would be a ‘Palestinian state™ in Jordan, which would free Israel to retain open-
ended, unchallenged, control of the West Bank.
Even the Labor party. fitteen years into Israel's occupation of the West
Bank, was shill speaking about a “Jordanian option” for an cventnal political
selllement with the Palestinians who lived there — though this meant a kind of
confederation with Jordan under Hussein's rule. Very tew Israelis began
seriously to engage with the Palestinians own separate identity or national
aspirations until later in the 1980s — when |, 100, would do so, amid the
widespread Palestinian unrest known as the fvifiude. But even without a fully
thought-out view on these issues, | was taken wback by Arik’s almost godlike
supposition tht he conld use fire and brissione, or the modern military
equivalent, 10 remake the Middle Tast as be and Begin wished to see iL. Tf only
because of the tacit assumption that the outside world, and especially the
Americans, would sit by and let the whole drama play out as scripted. it struck
me as an exercise io sell-delusion.
There was also the matter of Arik’s vision of 2 “new” Lebanon under Bashir
Gemayel's Phighingists, Unlike the other generals in he firva, Ud never actully
et any of our “Lebanese Christian allies”. Yet a fow weeks afler taking up my
new post, [ was invited to a lunchtime discussion with a group of Phalangist
officers on a training course m Israel. | emerged both unsettled and
underwhelued. They were obviously politically astue. |hey bandied around
military vocabulary proficiently enough. But they were a bil like teenagers
plying with guns: full of macho, and too much after-shave. Hardly the kind of
“army” | could see as a lynchpin in Arik’s pli lo redraws the geopolitical map
of the Middle Test.
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By June 1982. Arik’s invasion was 2 war simply waiting for a credible
trigger, On the evening of June 3. Palestinian termonsts shot and critically
wounded Jsusel's ambassador in Laadon, Shlomo Argov. Appalling though the
attack was, as a catalyst for a full-scale invasion, it seemed unlikely to be
enough for the Reagin Administration, Habib’s cease-fire terms did not include
terror aacks like the one in London. 11 was meant 10 keep the PLO from fiving
across our northern border. Even to some Israelis, the arack on Ambassador
Argoy seemed more # rationale than reason for war. But Begin summoned an
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emergency cabinet meeting the next day. TTis adviser on tercorism, Gideon
Machanaimi, was someone F knew well. When the cabinet convened, he pointed
out to the ministers that the London terrorists were from a fringe Palestinian
sronp led by Abu Nidal. Far from being an ally of Arafat, he had been
sentenced Lo death by Fatah, According to Gideon, Begin wasn’t interested in
the distinction. ven less so were the two leading military figures in attendance:
Arik and Raful. They said all Palestinian terror was the responsibility of Avafat,
and that now was the lime to hit back hard. The cabinet was informed that our
initial response would be limited: aerial and artillery bombardment of PLC
targets throughout 1.ebanon. Yer Ratul told the cabinet that the Palestinians.
would almost certainly respond with shell and rocket fire im Isracl. Then, he
said, we could strike more forcefully. In other words, the invasion would begin.
It did. Dubbed “Operation Peace for Galiles™ to convey the aim of protecting
northern Israel from shell and rocket fice, iL got underway at acound [1 am. on
Sunday June 6. The publicly declared aim was Little Pines: the establishment of
our 40-kilometer security zone. Both Israelis and the Americans were led to
believe it would be a reltively short aperution aimed al destroying the PLO’S
military capacily in the border area. We also said that we wouldn't auack Syrian
forces as long as they didn’t attack us.
“That last public pledute had particulir relevance fo my role on the ground. ©
wea depuly commander of the largest of [sacs three invasion forees, under
Yanoush Ben-Gal, head of the northern command until shortly before the war.
We hid 30.000 troops and 600 tanks and were responsible far the “eastern
scetor — from the edge of he Golan Heights, novh throngh the Bekaa Valley
along Lebanon's border with Syria. At first, we deliberately stopped short of
Syrian forces. We deployed our main reserve division just 10 kilometers across
the border, below the first Syrian positions at the boom of the Beka. But
despite the public assurances we were in Lebanon to establish our security zone,
we had no orders to hale at the 40-kilometer line. From day one. our part of the
vision force began w pincer movemen! around the area of castem Lebanon
where large nunibers of Syrian soldiers were based. My former Sinai division,
the 252, came down from the Golan and started making its way up alongside
the Syrian border. Our ather units, further inland, also began pushing
northward,
Tor the first couple of days. we did avoid a confrontation with the Syrians,
Yet an June 8, day three of the war, the morphing of |attle Pines mio Big Pines
began
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The two other Israeli invasion forces had crossed the border parallel 10 us,
one pushing up tough the steep hills and twisting valleys of centeal Lebanon,
and the ofher along the Mediterranean coast, The central force was now ordered
10 mount am attack thal would bring them within siriking disuse of the Bei
Damasug road. The first skirmish came in the hilltop own of Jezzin, sill baely
within the 40-kilometer zone. The Syrians had a commando force and tauks in
the town. An [sracli battalion was ordered in, and it tok Jezzin by the evening
of June 8. Bul it came under assault from Syeian units with grenades. RPGs and
Saggers, as well as shellfire from a nearby ridge. Shortly before midnight,
another unit of Israeli tanks and infantry passed through the central 1.ebanese
village of Ayn Zhala, 10 the north of Jezzin and beyoud the 40-kilometer line,
and began winding its way through a valley toward the Beirut-Damascus road.
They waded into a Syrian ambush, and for hours tound themselves in a fierce
Buttle with Syrian units.
Tdon'Lbelieve Arik specifically planned to confront the Sycians in Jeszin
and Ayn Zhalea. But he could not lave doubted that, given the enormous scale
and range of onr invasion, i clash with Syria forees would buppen an some
point. Now that it had, all that remained was for hin to tell the cabinet that
Israeli forces had come under Syrian fire and insist, as defense minister, that the
imperative for our forces on the ground was lo strike back.
On the afteroon of June 9. the fourth day of the war, we got the arder to go
on the offensive against the Syrians in the Bekaa. As our artillery pounded the
southernmost SAM sites, nearly 100 Israch jets swarmed into the Bekaa Valley
and attacked Syria's wir defenses in caster Lebanon. When a sceond wave
screamed in an hour later, the Syrians sent up their Soviet-made MiGs to
intercept them. Forcy-one Syrian planes were shot down. Seventeen of the 19
SAM birtteries were desroed by the end of the diy. The other wa were tiken
out the next morning, and another 43 Syrian jets shot down
There was no longer any pretence about our war aim: to fight our way
fhwonggh any resistanes and reach the Beirui-Damasens road, Bot fier the Bekaa
air battle, and the most serious air losses for an Arab state since 1967, Yanoush
and T knew that international pressure for a cease-fire would quickly escalate.
Aware we were Ticing against the clack, we began a co-ordinated push
Towards Ue Beinl=Damaseus road. | he lel arm of our “pincer” wis ordeved lo
make its way toward a town called Jobb Janine. It was still some distance from
the Damiscus road. bud wn important way-station: Syvim headquaniers on the
western side of the Bekaa Valley. The astern part of our pincer, the 252
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Division, advanced up the Bekea, alongside the Syrian border, ward the town
of Yanta, across from Jobb Jannine
But as it was making its way there, we rot word a cease-fire had been
agreed. Twas sel for noon the next day, Friday, June 11. The main focus of our
advance shifled to a crossroads a few miles cast of Jobb Janine. Jt was a Nal,
open area surrounded by hills, codenamed the Tovlano Triangle on our maps.
We knew we would meet some Syrian resistance. On the way up the valley,
we'd seen signs of reinforcements from inside Sysia. But we had overwhelming
superiority in tanks, artillery and infantry in the area, as well as full control of
the an, In our command post, about five miles back from our frontline forces,
Yanoush set in motion the plan for s pre-cease-fire advance: 10 take the hills
overlooking the Tovlano Triangle. Tt was still about eight miles short of the
Beirut-Damascus road. But the idea was to establish a more secure defensive
position by the Lime the truce took effect, and to pul us in position 1 advance
fucther if the cease-fice collapsed or was delayed.
Shortly before sunset, Yanoush lef: by helicopter for a field commanders”
mecting with Raful in northern smel, That left me in charge, alongside
Yanoush's de facto chief-ol-stall, Amram Mitma. A decorated veteran of 1967
and 1973 whom 1 knew well, Amram had the added distinction of being disliked
by Raful almost us much as | wis, Our muin reserve division hud been ordered
10 take control over the hills south of the Tovlana Triangle. One of its brigades,
led by a former Sayeret Matkal soldier named Nachman Rifkind, was sent lo
take up a position immediately south of the triangle, Soon after nightfall,
Rifkind radioed in tht he was there, and thal the area seemed clear of enemy
forces. The divisional command post thea ordered a second brigade to move
toward the hills dominating the crossroads.
“The first sum of trouble came around mmdmeht. From our overall conmand
post, we were listening in on all radio traffic, and heard the second brigade
report that it had come under fire while moving toward the crossroads. At first,
we sssumed 1 must be from the remnants of a retreating Syrian unl, But
Rifkind. who had reported the area was clear, sow said thal fie could sec Mashes
of shellfire two or three miles to his north, Only the following morning did it
become clear that he had nat deployed immediately south of the mamgle as
planned. He had mistakenly halied ata bill shout 1wo miles short of there.
By the time Yanoush returned to the command post a little aller midoight,
we were ficing unother problem. he batlalion nearest to the sonth of the
triangke had spotted a dozen lacee vehicles armed with missiles a few hundred
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yards ahead. The missiles seemed wo be poioted norih, away cont them. But the
battalion commander was asking us for permission to open fire
“Da nat open fire,” | was saying as Yanoush arrived. “I repeat: do nf open
fire.” When Yanoush asked me whit was gomg on, [old him the lead unit hid
sepocted unknown velicles with missiles and wanted wo know whether it could
attack. “Tell them ves,” Yanoush said. I looked first at him. then at Mitzna, “We
can’t,” Usaid, “Its dark. The situation is confused. We don’t know whose
missiles these are. 1 doesn’t make sense they’d be Syrian, just siting there,
pointed north. At least give it a few minutes.” I think Yanoush would have
grabbed the microphone and fold the unit to fire had not Amram been there as
well. Together, we convineed him 10 hold oft: 1 ordered the brigade commander
10 gel one of the battalions APC crews 10 20 out on foot and gel as neac as
possible to the missiles. It was nearly 15 minutes later when they retumed. They
said they d never seen this Kind of missile vehicle, but thal the soldiers manning
them seemed Lo be speaking Hebrew. It Lumed out 10 be a new ground-to-
ground missile, not yet formally in service, which had been sent into Lebanon
without our knowledge hy the nortiiem command.
While that trouble was averted, muel worse lay ahead. Yanoush asked to be
brought up ta date on our progress in taking control of the area around the
Tovlana Triangle, We briefed him on the situation as we understood it: that
Ritkind had reported the triangle was clear, bul that the second brigade bad still
not reached it. Yanoush tried to radio the divisional commanders. When he
couldn't ruise them, he ordered the brigade and bitealion commanders to pick
wp their pace sud move forward.
With Yanoush back and the advance resumed. | tried 1o grab at least a few
hours” sleep. But around 3:45 am, a junior officer shook me awake. When |
sjomed Yanoush and Amram, they told me the lead battalion was now in deep
trouble. Jt was led by Lea Lpheon, onc of Dan Shomron’s best company
commanders during the 1973 war. For reasons 1've never been able to establish,
Ira's orders were nol ta take the hills south of the trianyle us we'd planed, but
10 20 trough it 10 a point wo mikes or so north. Minutes aller crossivg the
triangle, his tanks came under heavy fire. loping w escape, he kept going, only
to find himself surrounded by a Syrian armored force. They were trapped near a
village called Sultan Yacoub, nearly three miles north of Tove. Since it was
early June. it would be light soon. and his predicament could only get worse.
Al dawn, he reported he was nnder heavy wtillery, anti-tank missile, RPG
and elose-range cil fire. The only realistic hope was to retreat, We were unable
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to get air support, but the commander of auc anilleey force called in all available
units, and they drew a kind of protective box of shellfire around fea’s men as
they moved back, We sent our other reserve division towards the crossroads to
provid support, snd Aram wen with therm to co-ordinate the operation. Bul
Tra still had to fight bis way out. IL was 15 minutes of hell. By the time be
reached safety at around nine in the morning, he'd lost ten tanks and nearly 20
men, four of them during the final, fiantie retreat. Five more were missing. The
seserve division also found itsel in a fierce firefight with the Syrians, and lost
eleven men.
We were now just three liours trom the cease-fire. We did advance nearer to
the Beivui-Damascus rosd. An hour before noon, our dedicated anti-tank wil
destroyed 20 of Assad'’s top-tier tanks, Soviet-made T-72s. Under different
circumstances, those successes might have been a cause for consolation, Yet it
wes hard Lo dwell on them given what had happened north of Tovlano. After the
wer, Sultan Yacoub created Fertile ground for conspiracy theories. hal-ruths
and finger-pointing. That there had been many oversights and errors was clear,
though there wis never i full and Garmal debriefing proces to udenafy in demi
whet had gone wrong. 1 found it deeply frustuating that, unlike in 1973 whea I'd
been in a battlefield command role, 1 was now at several steps removed from
whl was hisppening on the ground. But everyone involved shared responsibility
for the failures — including the overall commanders: ¥auoush, and me as yell.
That weight felt even heavier because the tragedy occurred only hours before
our own force's involvement m the Lebanon War was over,
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1 wis mot, however, he end of the war. The ecase-fire held only
intermittently in the cest of Lebanon, barely at all in sone accas. Freed from
fighting in our sector, Yanoush, Amram and 1 began spending time wich nits
elsewhere. A coupke of days after the cease-fire, | found myself alongside 1 pair
af generals. Uri Simehoni and Yossi Beu-lanuan, south of Beirut. In font of
us. troops from the Golani Brigade were completing their takeover of Beirut
airport, “You were tight,” told Un and Yosst. They bad been m charge of the
simulation exercise in the Kirva, predicting how Arik’s ostensibly more limited
invasion plan would inevitably develop into Big Pines. Even as we were talline,
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another Tsracli unit broke through lo the Beirul-Damascus road. On the far side
af Lebanon's capital city, they linked up with Bashir Gemayel’s Phalangists
1 remember a mix of feelings at the time. Partly, amazement that throueh
sheer determination and political maneuvering, Arik seemed fo have pulled off
his grand plan — or at least the Lebanon part of it. Yes, we'd euded up lighting a
Kind of half-war against the Syrians which, though we'd won it, still left 30,000
of Assad’s men m | ebunon. And they showed no signs of leavmgz, Our main
strategic threat north of the border was nol, in fet. the Palestinians. Syria was
in military control of Lebanon and. after the peace with Egypt, our most
powerful adversary, And no matter what Rig Pines might have achieved, it
seemed fo clear to me that the Syrians would be free simply fo replace the
weaponry we'd destroyed and fight another day.
In Arilc’s mind, Bashir Gemayel would soon be in a pasition fo fix that, But
beyond my skepticism fram having met some of Ins boy officers in Tel Aviv. 1
couldn’ see how that would work. | strained o imagine Gemayel daring to
form what would amount to a formal alliance with Istael and ordering the
Syrian troops to leave, And given whist would be at stake for Damascus, |
certainly couldn't sce the Phalangisis being able to drive them out by force.
The more immediate, open question involved Arafat and the Palestinians.
Our ofher twa invasion forces had driven almost all the PIO fighters aut of
south ebm, though not without costs and casualties. Most of the
Palestinians, however, had retreated north to their de facto capital. the
southwestern neighborhoods of Beirut, The idea of a ground assault street-to-
street bitthes in an se picked with fighters, weapons and fens of thosands of
civilians — didn’t bear chinking about. After the war, some of the officers around
Beirut said Arik seemed to haping that the Phalangist milita would yo into the
overwhelmingly Muslim wesiem sid of Bef. Al one pom, he was evn
considering an Iscacli attack. Fortunately. given the Phalangists’ wecord of
violence bordering on savagery during the |ebanese civil war, Bashir Gemayel
wasn’ willing to send them in, As for an Israch asssult, Begins misters
weren't ready w sign off ou it, and the Americans let it be know, repeatedly,
that they were vehemently apposed to the idea.
Arik ageain tumed fo a fullback plan. He knew that Begin dil share his
determination fo get Arafit and the PLO ow. of Lebanon. Even the Americans
were ready to support such an arrangement, assuming it could be negotiated and
implemented 1m a way that would bring the Gizhting tw an cn. Whether by
intent or political fortune, the mere prospect of Arik further expanding the
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invasion had the effect of persuading Washington to send Philip [Tabib back
into the diplomatic fray. With no carly sign, however, of Asafa agreeing 1
leave, Arik naw steadily tightened whit amounted to a siege on west Beirut, For
seven weeles in July and Augus, our fares pounded the PLO-comrolled
neighborhoods fom land, air and sea: inteemitiently cut water and electricity
supplies: and hoped that the accumulated pressure, and casualties, would force
Arafat and his meu to agree to 1lahib’s terms for & wholesak evacuation.
By this point, [ was spending most of my time in the &irye, with periodic
ists north. sometimes with Arik or Raful, to our positions on the eastern,
Phalungist-controlled, side of Beirut, On several oceasions, [ helicoptered bck
with Habib ov his deputy, Morris Draper. In one instniee, {acconmpanicd Draper
into a meeting with Arik. In what T imagine had become a familiar. and
frustrating, part of the US mediation mission, he pressed Arik to rein in our
bombardments. arguing thal we were in danger of ruining the chances of getting
2 negotiated deal on Acafal’s leaving. Arik argued straight back. 1Tis view was
that unless the PLO felt squeezed into submission, they would stay pu.
On that, 1 thought Ank was probubly right, Other Israch generals with fur
more experience, and weight. also seemed to agree. Notably, Yitzhak Rabin. te
was no longer in government, nor even in charge of Labor. But he had always
hula soft spot for Arik, is did Sharon for hm, With uncasinss, questions and
ouright wilicis of the siege building both iutermationally and inside Israel,
Arik got Rabi to helicopter north with him to Beirut. Yitzhak spent six or
seven hours there. His verdict on the siege, at least as reported in the [sraeli
press, was ore than Aik could have hoped for. Jekadek, he said. “Tighten it”
Tn the ead, Pm convinced the siege did have a critical elfect on getting the
evacuation deal. But unleashing our single most relentless series of air attacks.
on Angas 12, when the deal was basically done, seemed both perverse and
excessive, and not just to me. TTabib, end President Reagan himself, fumed. So
did a lot of Begin's own ministers, with the result, unprecedented in Israeli
miliary anal. that they Formally removed Auk’s anthority to decide on Rune
air fore missions. That ured out not to matter, however, because August 12
effectively marked the end of the siege.
On the afternoon of Saturday. August 21, the first shipload of an eventual
total of nearly 10,000 Palostinian fighicrs lofi Beirut harbor for Cyprus, und then
for a variety of new host countries. Ox this cove at least, Acik’s grand design
hid proven beyond him; the Palestinians were nat bound for Jordan, By far
most of them headed for the PLO’ new political base, the north Affican state of
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Tunisia. Arafat himself left on August 30.
Sill, as the evacuation proceeded. another one of Arik s central aims iu Big
Pines was alsa achieved. On August 23. the [ebanese parliament elected Bashir
Gemayel as The country’s new president,
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Dusing the several weeks that followed, there was a confident feeling among
Arik and his inner circle in the fry. To the extent that Arik and Raful saw any
cloud on fhe horizon, it was their concem dbout “several thousand” Palestinian
fighters who they were cerlain hud stiyed on in Bein despie the evienanon.
True, Bashir Gemayel liadn't been formally inaugurated as president. There had
been reports that he was privately assuring I ebanese Muslim leaders that he
would be concalfatory once he took office, und thi he was nol about lo consider
a formal peace with Isracl. Le hed also been resisting Isiacli clots lo make an
carly, public show of friendship. such as an official visit to meet Prime Minister
Bain. But there was wn indsguised hope that this was just brief pofitical
hiatus, for appeatance’s sake, and that before 100 long Lebanon would become
the second Aral country to make peace with Iscael. Not just peace, bur
something more nearly like an alliance,
Thongh | will looked through the eyes of an amy officer, note politician
and certainly not an experienced diplomat, I had serious doubts this would
happen. Simple logic seemed to suggest that. since Gemayel knew we had no
sealistic option of luming our hack on him, Ins political interests were best
served by keeping his distance and trying to build bridges at home. But on the
early evening of September 14, nine days befare his scheduled inauguration, not
just that question but the whole new political edifice Arik hud envisaged in
launching the invasion. became suddenly, irretrievably. irrelevant
Lwas at my desk on the third floor of the ky, getting ready t go home,
when the news broke: 1 huge bomb had exploded at the Phalanst Party
headquarters in cast Beisul as Gemayel was beginning to address hundreds of
supporters. For a while, the reports from Beir suggested that Gemayel liad
survived the blast, but shartly before eleven at night the confirmation came; the
president-elect wis dead.
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Though na one claimed responsibility, there was no shortage of suspects.
During and since the eivil war, Gemayel had at various times been at odds with
a whole armay of enemies or rivals: Muslim militias, the PLO, other Marmite
actions and, of course, the Syrians. But [ihink for all of us, even Arik, the iss
al who was behind the bombing was hardly the most urgent concern. The
immediate danger was a revival of the kind of rampant bloodletting Lebanon
liad euduced in the civil war. The day afer the assassination. | joined a hall-
dozen other members of the general staff and befiooptered up to the Lebanese
capital. Arik, ignoring weeks of US pressure not o do so, had already ordered
Tstaeli troops into west Beirut not to fight, but to take control of key junctions
and vantage points and keep basic order.
But the questivn obviously on everyone's mind was how Lo make sure the
situation remained under control. It was early afternoon when we reached an
Tsraeli command post in the largely Palestinian southwest part of the city. TL was
selup by Amos Yaron, the former paratroop commandee whose division had
landed by sea at the start of the invasion and was part of the push north to the
capital. Al is side was Amir Dror, the head of the northern command. They
had set up a tooop observation post just 2 few hundred yards in fom where [
had landed with my Sayeret Matkal tear a decade earlier for the Rue Verdun
operation. 1 overlooked a pair of Palestinian refugee camps: Sibri amd, 4
couple of hundred yards closer tw us, Shatila.
Raful was with us as well. So was Moshe Levy, the deputy chief-of-scaff,
and Uni Saguy, the head of the operations branch in the kirva, listened rather
thin spoke. All could gather from he other generals” conversation was that
they were tying to figure oul how to handle the Palestinian camps. No one
explicitly mentioned the idea of Israeli oops going in, presumably because
they realized tha, Ger from helping ensure order, thi igh well inflame things
further. Even Raful, at least in my earshot, made no teference to the “several
thousand” PLO fighters that he and Arik sill wanted out of Beirut. The only
note that struck me as odd was a general wgeement hal the Phatmgists iad not
been carving their load of the fighting during the war. One comment in
particular stuck with me, though I didn’t take it as referring to the Palestinian
camps in particular. | can’t remember which general suid it, only that everyone
seemed to agree: “Why the hell do we have 10 do their lighting for them?”
Tt wes not until the next morning, back in Tel Aviv, that the alarm bells rang
for me, and by then it tumed out to be too late. [1 was Friday, the eve of the
Tewish New Year. Yet in the wake of Gemayel's assassination, the kirya was
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crowded. [heard the fist rumors from a stall officer in military intelligence,
though neither he nor anyone else T asked was sure if they were tue. But it
seemed that the Phalangists had been sent inta Sabra and Shatila, And that they
Hcl begun killing people.
I'd like to think that, in Ames Yaron's or Amir Dori's place, I'd have been
sufficiently wise not to have allowed the Phalangists into the camps in the first
plice. But the truth is that I'm not sure. If the decision was to send someone in, {
certainly wouldn't have sent in Iszacli troops. But unlike other Israeli generals,
my first-hand knowledge of the Phalangists was limited to a single lunchtime
encounter m Tel Aviv, My impression from that meeting was hat they were
avarblowu, post-adolescont thugs, not muses. | did, of course. kaow the
milila’s reputation for untrammelled violence in the Lebanese civil war. Sull, T
might conceivably agreed to have the Phalungists go in under strict arders to
Tit themselves lo keeping order — in the knowledge that our own troops were
stationed in the area immediately around the camps.
Yet from the moment of the first rumors — as soon as I heard even the hint
that killings were underway | aed nots seeand’s doubt about what fad 1 be
done next: gel the Phalangists out. Immediately. 1 fell a particular uracney
because of the rooftop gripe 1'd heard the day before, about our oops having to
do sheir fighting for them, That made me pretty certain that, us the very feast, we
had indeed sent the Plialangists inlo Lhe camps.
Tried to reach Arik, but couldn't get through to him. T contacted Oded
Shamir, the farmer intelligence officer who was his main liaison with the army,
told him that i€ the Phaksmgists were side the camps, he bid 10 uge Arik 10
get them out. Then [ called Tsila Drori. Amir’s wife. [ asked whether she'd
spoken to him that morning. She said no. He'd called her the day before,
however, und she was sure he'd be in oneh before the New Year. “Please,
swear to me, Tila, you'll give him a message” | said. “1 was there yesterday
Tell him please do whatever he can ta stop this action, It will end very, very
budlly.” told ber he would know whi! 1 mint
Twas oo kate to stop it altogether. The slaughter — the round-ups and the
beatings and the killings of Palestinians in the two camps — had indeed begun
the night before, Amir found out about it late an Friday morning, Not from me,
[believe, bul from his stall officers. He ordered the Phidangists 1o slop. Bul
they didn’t. No one in command acted, at least successfully. to make sure that
the militiamen got out of the camps. Tie alrocitics went on. 1 wis another 24
Tours before the miliamen finally withdrew.
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One night’s massacre would have been enough tw produce the outcry that
sesulted once the (ist news reports, photos and TV pictures were sent around
the world. That the bloodletting was allowed to continue after we kaw what
was going on, beyond the cost in innocent ives, made the fallout even worse. tn
Tira, the response was unlike anything in the past. Theee had been some
opposition to the war: from parts of Labor, fiom political groups further to the
Tell and partieulauly the pressure group Peace Now, foemed in 1978 ww protest
he Begin government's obvious desire o use the peace with Ligypt as a means
to limit, rather than actively explore. prospects for a wider agreement with the
Palestinians.
Aller Sabra and Shatils, Pesce Now was the driving force behind demands
for an inquiry into the Tsracli role int what had happened. But the Leauma went
deeper. stags of all political stripes jammed shoulder-to-shoulder into the
Kings of Israeli Square in the heart of Tel Aviv 2 week aller the massacre.
There were soldiers, 100: 20somethings back from the fighting and cescervists a
decade or more older. Same estimates put the size of tae crowd at as many as
400,000, almost Ten percent of the population of sacl at the ame. The protest
wes nominally aimed at foreing Lhe government Lo empower a commision uf
inquiry. which it did a couple of days later. But the mood in the square was
more like an onpouring of shock and shame. While the catalys! wis the
massacre in the camps. it tapped into a rumble of growing questions, and
doubis, about the war itself, which had been building ever since the prolonged
siege of west Beirut. what the invasion was for, how it had been planned and
prosceuted. and what it said about our country, our government and our arnicd
forces.
Lwas at home with Nava, watching the coverage of the demonstration on
television. | stared the protesters” view thal un inquiry wis needed. In Ue days
since my phone call to Tsila Deo, 'd remained troubled not just by our failure
to stop the killings once we knew what was going on. but by the response fron
Begin, Arik smd sine olher ministers lo the massac. Determined lo shifl the
blame and responsibility elsewhere, they kept driving home the point that it was
Phalangists, not Israelis, who had carried out the killings. That was true. But ic
could nat erase the failures of judgment and control an our part. We were the
anes who had allowed them into the camps. Our frees were deployed around
the perimeter. And the killers were our “Lebanese Christian allies”
The formal picking-apart of Istacl's share of responsibility would be the job
af the inquiry commission. T did take some heart from the very fact such large
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aumbers of Tseaclis, and ultimately the goverament. had ensured a truly
independent probe would now go ahead
But other ways in which the war had gone wrong were already glaringly
apparent. Some were operational. 1 is fue we ended up overcoming Palestinian
and Syrian resistance. Given the numerical balance of forces, thal was a
foregone conclusion. But with all the attention paid to the pofiical aims of the
invasion, we'd never sufficiently plamed for operating against a wholly
different kind of enemy than in our previous wars, and on a wholly diflerent
kind of terrain. Huge columns of Israeli armor had found themselves stuck on
the windy roads of central 1ebanon, running low on gasoline, vulnerable ta
selatively small ambush squads. In some instances, s dozen Palestinian fighters
ar Syrian commandos had halted the best-armed, best-trained, tank forces in the
Middle Fast for hours on end. Overall, the pattem of past wars had been broken,
Even in 1973, once the surprise attacks had been tuned back, Tscaeli forces had
advanced. attacked and broken enemy resistance. That hadn't happened here.
There was a deeper problem as well. At the scart of the conflict, Begin had
declared, boastiully slmost, thal this vas sracl’s first “war of choi.” That
wasn't true. But 1956 and 1967 were wars of choice. Yet tose preemptive
attacks, especially in the Six-Day War, were in response to a sense of strategic
threat that wis commonly understoad by almost all Israelis, There wis u sense
201 just of consensus, but national nity. his war was different. [Led been
launched in pursuit of a specific political vision: a marriage of Begin’s political
credo and Ari's determination to use overwhelming force to bulldoze i new
political reality in Lebanon.
The findings of the inquiry commission weee published iu February 1983.
They were all the more powerful for fhe forensic language sed. The inquiry did
concede Bght's point: 11 was Gemayel's men who had actiafly done the
Killing. But it said that the Isacli commanders” decision to allow the
Phalangists info the refugee camps “was taken without consideration of the
danger which the makers and exeentors of the decision were ablated to
foresee as probable — that the Phakngists would commit miessacres.” The
commission added that “when the reports began to arrive about the actions of
the Phalansts in the camps, no praper heed was taken, ‘The correct conclusions
were not dravent. No energetic and immediate action was lake lo resteain the
Phalangists and put a stop w their actions.”
Ank bore personal responsibility for thas, the report said. So did Raful, and
the head of military intelligence. Yehoshua Saguy. The commission
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secommended that Begia fice Sharon and Saguy. They lef Raful in place, but
anly because his term as chicf-ol-stalT was due to end in a mater of weeks. Arik
at first refused to go, and Begin refused to fire him, Yet in the end, popular
pressure forced the fuse. When smother demonsivation was called in profest al
Shacon’s continuing as Defense Minister, a right-wing political activist tossed a
grenade into the crowd, killing a young Peace Now member. Even Arik was
evidently shaken by the spectre of one of his presumed political admirers
murdering a fellow Jseacli for peacefully protesting. Or at least shaken enough
to step down as Defense Minister. He did remain in the government as a
minister without portfolio. Still, Begin himself would quit as Prime Minister,
setiring into virtual seclusion, about balf-a-year later
Like the est of the senior officers corps, T tried with difficulty 10 get oa with
my awn job, | imagined the contribution { could best mike for now would be, us
Teed of Planning, to easure the mix of fovces and weaponry deployed in any
future conflict were better suited 10 the task then in the Lebanon war. But [
didn’t believe that such technical failings or planning lapses, however serious a
contabuion to the more thin 650 rach hives lost, were what had mainly
caused the war Lo go wrong. The eenteal mistake was what had bothered me all
along: the invasion was not a considered response to a particular security threat.
was an overreaching exercise in geopolitics, with skeight-ol-hand used lo
evade the teed to make aud win support From goverment ministers and,
critically, the public. Even with questions stil to be resolved about when and
how to withdraw the thousands of Israeli fraops that were still inside [ ebanon, [
remember wondering aloud 10 a Gow any friends, and to Nava as well, whether
we would look back in a decades time and see the war as “our Vietnam”. Tn
fit, Iscaeli troops would still be in south Lebanon nearly wo decades later.
when 1 bid left the military and was about to become [saci Prime Minister,
Even as a two-star general in the kirva. T doubted 1 would be in a position to
help fix the deeper issues raised by the war. Any real influence would be in
positions like the chicf-of-stall and his deputy; the head of aperations; ihe had
al military incelligeace. They were the core of the armed forces” leadership end
had the most regular dealings with senior figures in government.
But 1'd failed ro factor in the effect of the inquiry recommendations. Within
days of the report, sracl had a new Defense Minister: Moshe Arens, sho
sewned from his post as ambassador in Washington. Among As first odes of
business was fo act on the inquiry’s verdict on Raful und Yehoshua Suguy. As
chief of stall, Arens setled on a choice T suspect most senior officers saw as the
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sight man for the moment: Raful’s deputy, Moshe Levy. Well over six fect tall,
he was known as Moshe Fechetzi. “Moshe-and-a-I Tall” Ife was reserved and
soft-spoken, a sat pair of hands after the trauma of the war,
Bul Arens also hid to mime i successor lo Suguy as head of military
intelligence. And for that job, he nominated me
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Chapter Thirteen
To was a huge responsibility, and not just because T was suddenly ia charge of
an mtelligence appacatus ranging from Lit 8200, our sophisticated signals
collection and decryption unil, to the operational units like Sayeret Matkal. It
was whal was at stake if things went wrong: success or failure in war, and the
lite or death of thousands of men an the battlefield. It was a price we'd paid
painfully in 1973. And now sein, jus! wne years laler, in Lebanon.
161 newded any reminder, it was conveniently placed on my new office wall:
the photographs of each of my nine predecessors since 1948 as Head of the
Intelligence Iirectorate, or Rosh Aran in Hebrew. All had come to the role
with talent and dedication. All but three had cither left under a shadow, or been
fired. Sometimes this was because of ultimarely non-tatal lapses, like a botched
mohilizition of our reserves in 1959, or the Rater crisis a few months later,
Sometimes, it was due 1o lethal fiilues like the Yom Kippur Wa and |ebauon.
I went to see all eight former directors who were still alive. “You know, 1
used to read the newspapers and listen to the BBC in the car fo wark,” Shlomo
Gail old me. He was the director 1'd worked or in operational micthgence,
the one who'd so memorably made the point that ye might endanger Israeli
security nar only be missing the signs of a war, but signs of an appartunity for
peace. He was also one of the few to have left office without blemish. “By the
time 1 gol to the kirve, | alieady knew 80 percent of what | could about what
was roing on,” he said. “Then 1'd spend six or seven hours reading intelligence
mistrial, to fill in at least part of the remaining 20 percent.” His message,
echoed by my other predecessors, was tht the job wasn't mainly sbout the raw
information. It was what you concluded from the information. what you did
with it. [t was about judgement.
The intelligence did miter, of course. For all of Israels strengths in hat
area, I knew from my own experience at Sultan Yacoub that there was still
Toam to pret more, better, and more timely information about our enemies, and
mike sure il got fo the commanders and eld units than needed at. And while the
details of nuny uperations | approved for Sayerct Matkal and other units remain
classified, we did succeed in doing that to take just ane example, by finding
an entirely new wary to get intelligence from inside Syrian command poss.
Yet above all, set ont to apply the lessons of the 1973 md 1982 wars. In
rereading the official inquiry reports, | saw thu the intelligence failings had
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been different in cach of them. Tn the Yom Kippur War, the problem was not
just Eli Zeira's failure w activate the sayerel’s listening devices in Lygpt
deeply damaging though that was, [t was judgement, Inside Aman, a kind of
sronpthink had take hold. 1 was rooled in a confident, costly misconception
which went unchalleaged: that Ligypt would never risk another war without an
air force capable of breaching our defences and striking towns aud cities deep
inside Israel. No one pressed the alternative seenasio: that Sadat might sirike
with more limited territorial objectives and. under cover of his SAM batterics
on the other side of the Suez Canal. advance into the Sinai.
In the Lebanon war, the inquiry suggested, Yehoshua Saguy did ry to wam
the generals, and the government, about mor visks. But individual minisiens
testified that they hadn't heard, hadn’t been there. or hado’t understood, leading
the inquiry to stress the respansibility of a Rosh Aman to ensure not just thi his
message was conveyed, but that it was received as well
1 sel out to address both problems. Inside the department, | insisted on
making all our preconceptions open to challenge. I set up a nit whose sole
fimetnan was to play devils advocate when a consensus was reached. 1 began
with the opposite conclusion and, through competing avalysis of the data, and
logical argument. tried ta prove it. also wanted to be challenged on av
preconceptions. | ussigned a bright young major us my personal intelligence:
andanalysis ide. 1 read everything that crossed my desk and could acess
any material in the department. “You have no responsibility 1 agree with any of
the analysts, or with me,” 1 said. “Part of your job is to disagree.”
In the 1chanon war, Signy had Gsced an additional problem. He wis
excluded from some government meetings at which crucial decisions were
made. That was out of his control. 1 didn’t want it ta be out mine. [ raised the
ust wth Begin in our fost meeting, “16 you want 10 gel the maximum value
from your head of intelligence.” 1 said, “you should make sure he’s there not
just after, but when decisions are made.” Yet he was now only months from
leaving office, exhausted by the war and its aftermath, He waved his hand
weakly it response, as it lo say tone of it niattered. Ls successor, in October
1983, was Foreign Minister Yitzhak Shamir. Ideologically, he was cut from the
same cloth: an advocate from the 1940s of sceuring 1 Jewish state in all of
Palestine, by whatever force necessary. He'd broken with Begins pre-state
Trgun militia to set up a group called Lehi, which went further and carried out
politicul assassmatians: the 1944 killing of 1 ord Moyne, Britains Minister for
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Middle East Airs, and four years later the United Nations envoy, Count Falke
Bermadotte.
“Why are you so strident,” Shamir asked me, only halt-jokingly, after I'd
insisted on joming 1 government discussion ind pressing several itelhgence
suatiers. “Us because Ive read the Lebanon inquiry,” | replied. “1 saw what
happened when a message isn’t delivered assertively. I'm not going to be in the
position of milking the same mistakes.” He nodded, and didn’t raise it agom
In fact, it was under Shamir that T began to get more involved with political
and policy issues beyond the armed forces. Part of this came with the job of
Rash Aman, There was hardly u major domestic or foreiym challenge that did
noi have some security component, and io seenrity mailer on which intelligence
was not critical. Buc [also found myself working more closely with leading
politicians; mainly Shamir and Misha Arens, who as defense minister was my
iin point of contiel. Since | was a Labor kibbutz, we mad m odd
threesome. Arens was also a lifelong Jabotinsky Zionist. He had bee in the
Betar youth movement in America, before going to Palestine in 1948 and
fofmmg the Ign. bn ficl, 1 was with Mishia’s personal bucking that one of my
Tormer Saycret Matkal officers — thie sou of a Jabotinsky acolyte — had recently
taken his first steps into the political limelight. After a two-year stint as Israel's
numbertwo diplomat in Washington, Bibi Netanyahu hid become aur
anhassedor to Ue United Nations
With both Accas and Shamir, Tbuilt a solid relationship, based on mutual
respect, and it would deepen further when 1 moved on to a wider role in the
Kiva a few years hater. They wore straight tallies. While wesolute about
decisions once they'd taken them, they were genuinely open to discussion and
debate. 1 also sometimes found a surprising degree of nuance behind their tough
exlerior
1 he toughness was these, however. One of the frst major sceurity crises we
faced atter Shamir became Prime Minister was known as the Kav 300 aftair.
numed for the bus route between the southern part city of Asadod and Tel Aviv.
On the evening of April 12, 1984, four Palestinians from Gaza boarded the bus
and hijacked it back toward the border with Feypt. They told the passengers they
were armed with knives, and that a suitcase which one of them was caving
comtiined imexploded tink shells. Afr a highespecd chase, an Ise amy
unit managed to shoot out the tires and disable the vehicle. when it was still
shout Ten miles short of Gaza. One of the pissengers had been severely injured ul
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the start. A number of others managed to escape when the bus was stopped. But
several dozen eemained inside.
1 was in Europe at the time. on one of my periodic trips to discuss Middle
Fast issues with i fellow infelligence elie. Yet un aide called me with the news.
Leas several thousand miles away from what happening. But | knew there was
every possibility Sayeret Matkal might be called in. and my instincts told me we
should proceed with caution. The situstion we were ficing felt nothing like
Sabena, much less nichbe. Here, we had a single bus. Our troops, and in fact
everyone from ministers and officials to reporters and photographers, were in a
Toase cordon a couple of dozen yards away, That sad to me there wis no sense
thst the hijackers posed un immediate danger. Nor did they seem to have come
equipped for a major confrontation. In place of the AK-17s and grenades we'd
seen in previous terror attacks, these guys had knives, and, if they were to be
believed. a couple of shells with no obvious way lo detonate then.
I phoned a friend in the conunand post set up near the stranded bus. 11e told
me that Misha and Moshe Vechetzi were there. There was a standoff with the
terrorists and, for now, it was quicl. The defense mimster nd the elrici-of=st if,
af course, did not need my presence, much less my agreement. Lo order the
sayeret into action. But | said: why not wait? Though the last flights back to
sre! had already left, 1 canld be at the command post by midemorning, Beyond
wanting 10 be present if the sayeret was ordered in, [helicved the crisis might
even be brought to an end without another shot being fired. “T'll tell them what
you said,” my friend replied. “But 1 doubt at°Il be allowed fo drag on much past
daybreak”
Ile was right. With my Chinese Uarm comrade Yitzhik Mordechai in overall
command, Sayeret Matkal stormed the bus af about seven in the morning, They
shot and killed two of the hijacks immediately. through the veheks's windows.
Sadly one of the passengers, @ young womau soldicr, died in the assault, bul the
Test of the hostages were freed, none with serious injuries.
A cantroversy saan erupted over what came next, The sayeret commandos
had captured the other two terrorists alive and uninjured. Yet bacely a week later,
first in an American newspaper and then the [sraeli media. reports emerged that
the two surviving Palestinians had been killed after the higckmy was over, A
your later, Yitdik Mordechs was — wrongly — put on trial for his alleged part in
what had amounted to a summary execution. And, rightly, exonerated. Though
the fill details never became public, the poopks responsible turned ou 10 be from
the Shin Bet, our equivalent of the [BL
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Weeks later, Misha Areas mentioned Kav 309 inone of auc tepulac meetings.
Ii was not so much a statement of what should or shouldn’t have happened, but a
show af genuine puzzlement, “How ean it be,” he asked, “when there is a real
Fight. an apzaion im which our soldiers wre shooting, that ferorisis come out
alive? The answer. Lo me, was simple: Sayeret Matkal. From our carliest days.
there was an understanding that you used whatever force necessary in order
make an operation successful. Yet once the aim had heen achieved — in this case,
eliminating the danger to the passengers — it was over. | am convinced, by the
way, that Misha didn’t actually order the sayeret, or anyone else, to kill all the
terrorists, 'm equally convinced there was a tacit assumption on the ground that
Misha's view, and Shamir’s as well, was that this would be no bad thing.
PE
Yet by the summer of 1984, Shamir and Areas appeared in danger of losing
their jobs. Isacl’s next election, the first since the Lebanon war, was duc ia
July. Just as the Ins of the 1973 war had helped Began end Likud’s three
decades in opposition, the polls and the pundits were now suggesting that
Shimon Peres might bring Labor back to power. There was no prospect he'd
win an oulnght majority in the 120-seal Knessel. No one had ever dane that, nol
ven Ben-Gurion in his political heyday. Urom 1948, Lsracl’s political landscape
had been populated by at least a dozen-or-so pasties, mostly a reflection of the
various Zionist and religious groups before the state was established. The
dominant party always needed to make deals with some of the smaller ones wo
get the required 60-vote parliamentary majority and form a goverment.
The Likud looked vulnerable. Domestic concerns, alone, were eroding irs
support. Under Begins turbo-chirged version of Millon Freedimim ceanomies,
an economic boom had given way to cunaway inflation and a stock market
crash. Lebanon, however, was the min issue. and it remained a running.
political sore. The ussassinaled Bashir Gemayels brother, Amin Germayel, had
become president. Bul Israel still had large numbers of troops there. And while
most of the PLO fighters had gone, we faced a new and potentially even more
intractable enemy in the south of the country, When ur invasion began, the
arce’s historically disadvantaged Shi'ite Muslim majority had been the one
group besides the Christians with the prospect of benefiting. The PLO rocket
and aillery bases had disrupted ther fives amd, worse, placed them in the Ime
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af our retaliatory fice: Some of the Shi'ite villages in the south even greeted our
invading units with their traditional welcome, showering them with rice. But for
anew Shiite militia calling itself Hizbollah formed afer the invasion and
inspired by the Ayatollal Khomeini’s revolution in Lun — our conliuing
militacy presence was anathema. la Noveanber 1983, Iicbollah signaled its
intentions when a truck bomber drove into a building being used as our military
headquarters in the south Lebauese city of 1 yre. killing more than 60 people.
Yet the election ended up as a near-tie. Peres did lead Labor back into top
spot for the first time since Begins victory in 1977. Buc he got only 44 seats, to
the Lilud’s 41, After weeks of horse-truding with smaller parties, be could not
form a government. Neither could Shamir. The result, Gov the frst time in
peacetime, was a national-unity coalition, including both main panies. Peres
would be Prime Minister for the first twa years, and Shamir the final two. But
the stipulation of most relevance to me was thal one man would be the Defence
Minister thoughout the four years: Yitzhak Rabin.
My relationship with Rabin went back much further than with Misha. I'd
first met him when 1 was a saverel soldier. 1d interacted with him more as
sayeret commander, and of course during Entebbe. Now, we began io work
even more closely, and the main challenge in his early months as Defense
Minister wis what to do ubout our troops in 1ebanon. We had gradually been
pulling back. We were more or ess on the d0-kilometer line which Sharon had
claimed was the point of the invasion. But even this was costing us lives, with
70 obvious benefit from controlling a luge slab of territory on which nearly
Bal a-mmillion Lebanese lived. A decision was now reached to shrink ous
“security zone” further, pulling back to the Litani River. It meandered about 25
kilometers north of the border, and in some areas was even closer to Israel.
1 argued stramgly fn favor of geting out aliogether. §aceepled that the
“Litani line” might help impede cross-border raids. But especially since the
remaining Palestinian fighters and Hizbollah were acquiring newer Katyushas,
with a rimge of up lo 20 kilometers, they could fire rockels over the security
ane. My deeper concern wes that we intended to hold the acca with between
1.000 and 1,500 Tsraeli troops in open alliance with a local Maronite Christian
mihtia, called the South Lebanon Anny, This would rule out iy hope of
working out security amungements with the non-Christian majority in the south.
tried to persuade Rabin we should withdraw all the Tscaeli soldiers and
coordimite security arrangements with the equivalent of a local eivil-defense
guard. T suggested four separate militias drawn (rom the local population —
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Christian, Shi‘ite Muslim, Diuse and ethnically mixed — with the aim of
reflecting the balance in cach part of the south.
Israeli troops might still have to cross inte Lebanon. but only for briet,
fangeted operations to preempt prepartions for a lerror sltck. “We need lo
remember what we're there for.” said. “We have no lerritorial claims. Is lo
protect the north of [srael. But it will end up being about proteciimg our own
troops inside the security zone. 1 will be like the Bav=Lev linc in 1973, fighting
for fortifications we don’t need.” [ couldn’t persuade him. I'm sure he
understood the argument. and he may even have agreed. But when Katyushas
next fell on northem Israel, he us Minister of Defense, not 1, would be the one m
the political firing line
Far from straining our relations, our frank exchanges on Lebanon seemed to
build further trust between vs, We worked closely on a range of issues, When
Sayer! Martkal or another intelligence unit planned an operation across our
borders, both of us would present the action to the cabinet. Ducing the
operations. I'd be either in the kw ar a forward command post. Since nearly
all of them happened afer nightfall, Vitdusk would sully be back home,
asleep. by the time they ended. | would phone him. The trademark voice — slow,
aravelly. deep even when he was wide awake would answer. I'd tell him the
mission was aver and with only one exception during my period as head of
intelligence — successful. “Todah.” he would say. “Lekitrant™ Thanks. Bye. He
was never a man lo waste words.
Far ane of the very few times | can remember, fu phoned me one moming in
October 1985. 11 came coupke of days aller an especially gruesome Palestinian
terror attack. Even with Arafat now more than a thousand miles away in Tunis.
much of Rubin's focus was taken up in responding to, or trying to preempt,
Palestina terrorism. Thi issue was especially sensitive polineally in the wale
of a wav in Lebanon that was supposed o have eliminated that thecal. For Rabin,
‘moreover, it had become personal, He'd had to sanction an unprecedented
exchange of 1,150 Palestinian scenrity prisoners earlier in the year fo sceure the
freedom of three Iseaeli soldiers, including wie of ow men from Sulan Yacoub,
who had ended up in the hands of the radical Popular Front for the Liberation of
Palestine General Command. Now a group fram another of the radical factions,
ihe Palestine Liberation Froud, had hijacked an laliau cruise ship called the
Achille Lauro ea route from Egypt to Tscael. They murdered one of the
passengers, a wheelchuir-bound, 69-year-old Jewish Amencan named Leon
Klinghoffer, and dumped his body overboard
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Rabin's closest aide. whom [knew well, was aware that Unit 8200 had
intereepts that laid bare the details, and left no doubt the murderers were from a
PLO group. He called and asked me to appear on a weeldly television inferview
program called Moked. 11 wis hosicad by Nissim Misha: brash, ineisive, und one
of Tsracl's best-known broadeast journalists. [ pointed out to the Rabin aide that
I'd never done anything like this before. But he insisted it would go well Ile
briefed me on the questions [ could expect, nol just about the Achille Lauro but
the wider issue of Palestinian auacks, as well as Syrian President Uafoz al-
Assad’s efforts to re-equip his air force after his losses in Lebanon. So [ came to
he interview prepared. | brought audio tapes of the hijackers, and a large
plhotwgraph of the MiG-255 which the Syrians were seeking tb squire.
My appearance will not go down in the annals of greal momeals in
television, Rut af the time, very few Israelis even knew who | was, and (felt I'd
done OK. Twas sueprised, however, when Rabin phoned the next day. “Ehud, T
dido’Usee it. Twas aliending some eveal” he said. But his wife, Leah, had
recorded the program. “1 just watched it. I should tell you, I think it was
exceptional. You did a grea job. 1 was highly portant for us, for the army.
and, [ dare say. for you
wa ow
Twas not sure what he meant by saying it might be good for me as well,
although a decade later, at the end of my army career, he would play the central
soll info my entry into Ismael polities. 1s fue tha there was also some politics
al the upper reaches of the military as well, especially acound the choice of chief
of staf, and that Moshe Vechetzi's tem bad only a year-and-a-half to po. Bur I
didn view mysell' as a serions candidate al this sage. Moshe’s own preference
seemed 10 be iter Amiv Dror, the head of the nother command duriog the
Lebanon War, or Amnon Lipkin, the veteran paratroop commander who'd been
with me on The Rue Verdun raid in Baul. My own hope was that the nod
would go to any even closer friend of mine: Dan Shomron
Thad first got to know Dan well in the late sixties after Karameh, Israel's
costly standoff with Arafat, when Futah's influence was in its infmey, We
exchanged impressions un what had gone wrong, and why? Whe | became
commander of Sayeret Maral, we remained in touch, and he took a close
terest in all of our operations. We also crossed paths in the Sinai iu the 1973,
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itl which Dan's division was key in staunching the Teyptian advance in the first
days of the war, later inflicted heavy losses on one of Sadau's armored forces
and was part of the final push on the offer side of the cal, And, of course,
dusing Frleblb. Daun lid ship tactical instincts, u bilief in the inpovtancs of
using new lechnology 10 gain and sustain an edge. and an openness Lo
unconventional approaches. Faced with a challenge in planning or executing an
operation. he looked at it from all sides, determined to come up with the right
approach, not always the expected one. In a lot of these ways, we were similar.
which was no doubt one reason aur relationship had grown claser as he and 1
six years younger, and a step or twa behind rose up the rans,
In fiset, Dan was the reason I'd made onc of my rare forays ino kira politics
not long after Moshe Vechetzi took over as chief of stafl, when Misha Arens was
sill Defense Minister. | acted ta derail what seemed to me a blatant attempt by
Mashe to advance Drori’s and Amnon Liphin's prospects for eventual
succession as chief-ol-s1all. and to Lake Dan oul of the contest altogether:
Twas sitting at my desk on the third floor when the chief of internal army
seenrity, an officer mumed Ben-Dor, walked into my office. “Listen,” he said,
“the chief of stall las a right 10 give me a dircet order in cases where he thinks
there is a need for a special investigation. But you're ory commander, so |
wanted to lt you know.”
“What is 12” | asked.
Ile replied that he liad been ordered to “check out rumors that Daa Shomon
isa homosexual
{wes applied. The whole thing stank, on every level, and not just because |
was confident the “rumors” were nonsense. “Look.” Tsaid, *T have no idea
whether some sub-clause in anny regulations allows the chief-of:staff to ive
you orders over my head. But even il it docs, 1m ordering you to do nothing
until Ttalk to Moshe Tle nodded in ageeement. Tn fact, he seemed relieved. Tle
also lec ine know tha the source of the rumors was a umber of senior officers,
including a couple of generals.
[went straight dosnstaics and into the chicf-of-s1alPs office. Moshe was al
his desk, smoking a cigarette. One of the advantages be had in being nearly a
faat taller than most of us was that 1 found myself loakang not into his eyes, but
up al them. “Moshe.” | said, “Ben-Dor told mie youve ordered him 10 investigate
a rumor chat Dan Shomron is a homosexual.” He said nothing. So 1 went on.
“ve told him wot 10 do it. And I've come here to conviniee you thet it's
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improper.” This was more than 30 years ago, at a time when being gay. and
cenainly being gay in the armed forces, was a much bigger deal than now. But 1
still had na doubt at all that this amounted ta a witch-hunt,
Moshe still suid nothing, 1 have no wea whether Dan is ov is nota
homosexual. Aller knowing him for years, | have no reason at all to believe that
he is. But let’s assume. for a moment, that he is,” [ said. He's not some junior
lieutenant... This is i mam sho bss risked his fife for Isracl. Repeatedly, Under
fire.” Theu, | got to the real issue. “J hesitae lo mention this.” | said, sealizing,
and in a way hoping. that my tone would sound vaguely threatening, “But if vou
order this, the very fuet of doing so might be mierpreted as being a result of
some uther motives on your part. I'm doing my best to comings you to think
again. But T want you to know that if T can’t, I'm going com here to Misha’s
office, I'll try to convinge him of the damage from what you're contemplating to
the whole fabric of trust in the general staff and the army, to the image of the
army.” Sill. he said nothing. Tle nodded occasionally. Te puffed on his
cigarette, put it our, lit another one. It was pretty clear he liad no intention of
sescinding his order
Within 20 minutes, was in the Minister of Defense's office. | spoke 10 him for
about 10 minutes. Misha listened. At the end. he said: “1 understand what you've
fold me.” | never discovered whit exactly he suid to Moshe Vechetz, But the
investigation never happened. 1 never spoke # word about any of it 10 Dan until
years later. after both of us had lef the army.
The result, however, was that Dan became deputy ¢hief-of-staft under
Moshe, the hafest step in whist was beginning lo look like # steady rise to the lop.
But Misha did make a few concessions to Moshe's preferred candidates, and that
now turned out to have major implications for me. It was a long-accepted
practice thal ehichsof-stf had moe thm one deputy drm reir period in
charge. In the homestretch of Moshe’s teoure, he was able wo bring in Amir Duori
fora spell as his number-two, And early in 1986, he also brought Amnon Lipkin
buck to the kirve, Amnon was given my job, us Director of Intelhgenee, But | got
the post which Amnon was leaving: head of the ecatral command area. 1 his
meant that, for the first time, T'would be in charge of one of Israel's three regional
military commands, and we were based on the edge of Jerusalem, with seeunty
sespousibility for the West Bank
This was my first direct exposure 10 Lhe combustible mix of restive
Pulestiniins and the growing number of Jewish scillers, Our min bricf was lo
prevent terror attacks. vioknee or unrest from the roughly 850.000 West Bauk
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Palestinians toward the 50,000 Israelis who were then living in the settlements.
At the time, by far most Palestinians weee not involved in any violence. They
were mainly interested in getting on with their lives. Yet there were signs of
fronble. The PLO keaders” refocation fo Tunis hid reduced ther dircel inline.
But the briefings | got rom Shin Bet officers made it clear that some young
‘West Bankers had begun trying to organize attacks against police, soldiers and
Lsracl civilians. | he seulements were also growing in number, and their
residents were not above acts of violence against Palestinians. Further
complicating the situation was the fact the settlers enjoyed the support of key
Likud members in the cabinet: Shamir, who was about to take his tum as Prime
Minister iu October 1986: Misha, now a minister without portfolio: aud most of
all Arik Sharon. In an astonishing demonstration of resilience and
determination, not only had Arik remained as a minister without partfolio when
Shani succeeded Menachem Begin. In the coalition government, he bad
become Minister of Trade and Labor. Most importantly, when he'd been
Agriculture Minister under Begin, he was the driving force in plans to expand
Jewish settlement an the West Bank, including “blocs” placed around the major
Palestinian wwns and cities for the ficst time since 1967.
Thad a responsibility to protect the settlers, and [ did my best to fulfil ir. Yet
Lbclieved it was essential they understood that they were subject to the
authority of the state of Israel and, like other Isracli citizens. had 0 operate
within the law. This was no mere theoretical problem. A Jewish uaderground
had been established by members of Gush Emunim, the Orthodox Jewish
movement set up in the 1970s w advance what they saw as a divinely mandated
mission to seitle the West Bank. Tt had carried out car-bombings and other
attacks in the carly 1980s, leaving two Palestinian mayors crippled for life. The
femor campaign had ended only when the Shim Bet canght the cell placing
explosives under Arab-owned buses in Jerusalem.
Iopeful of preventing misunderstandings, and ideally building a relationship
af trust, | vised sony of the settkemonts dumm the ety weeks in my new post
and spoke with their leaders, a few of whom remaiu friends 10 his day. But in
the spring of 1986. we faced our first major test on the ground. In a pre-
Passover event organized by Gush Emunim, some 10,000 settlers streamed into
Lebron, a eity sacred not only to Jews but Muslims as well as the burial place of
Tebrew patriarchs and matriacchs. Peace Now activists had planned a counter
protest, but Rabin denied them permission. Still, anti-sertlement members of the
Knesset und other Isvach peace activists did gel eleanunce to march from
Jerusalem to Hebron.
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My job was Lo ensure the security not just of the Gush Emunim march but of
the counter-demonstrators, and, uf course, the local Palestinian population. As
the rival marches by the Israelis proceeded, 1 personally delivered wamings
against ny viokaee, both 10 the seltlement leaders und 10 1 pair of the most
promincal counter-protesters, the peace activist Uri Avneri and Knesset member
Yossi Sarid. The event went off without major incident. But the next day.
Davar. the venerable Labor newspaper I'd fivst ead as a child in Mishmar
Usharon. let sip against me. Under a photo of me with Avaeri and Sarid — my
arm raised, ostensibly in some kind of threat but actually in the time-honored
Jewish practice of talking with my hands the article aceused me of siding with
he settlers. (blood was spilled in the weeks and months ahead. the newspapec
said, “it will be on Barak's hands
Ordinarily. I would have ignored it. But never in my military career had 1
been similarly attacked on a0 issue of any importance. [ was especially angry
because not only was the insinuation unfounded. Tt was diametrically opposite to
the stance I was determined to take in this, my first regional command. Yes, 1
wes committee Lo providing sceurity for the seillers. Bul especially in the wike
af the crimes of the Jewish underground, 1 was determined to ensure they
remained within the boundaries of the law,
Afew dys later, | called Rabin’s aide und asked fo sce the Defense
Minisicr, and vas 10ld 10 come see hin afler Saturday lunch at his home. When
Tarrived, Rebin got right down to business. “Ehud, you wanted to see me?” he
sand. “You've probubly seen Davar.” 1 replied. “It was a pretty nasty piece. It
distorted things.” Yet as he began asking for details, it seemed he had no ides
whet 1 was talking about, “Thud, T never read it,” he said. “IF you hadn't wld
ne, I'd never have known there was an issue.” 1 assumed this was a white lie,
told 10 reassire me. Bul years later, when | was Mimister off Defense, und then
Prime Minister, T sometimes found myself on the other side of such meetings.
An officer or official would come se¢ me because of something said about them
in the medi, or remarks they wee quoted is birving mad. When | old them
I'd been unaware of it. J could see the disbelief in their eyes. By then, however,
I realized that under the multiple demands of a senior role in government, you
really could fail to natice events that ofhers viewed as crucial to their
seputations or careers. To reassure them | truly hadn't noticed, 'd tell them the
story of my meeting with Rabin.
PEE
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There was another, slightly less noble, reason | wanted to sel he record
straight with Rabin. Though only gradually did 1 admit this even to myself, [
realized that my experience m a regional command had ticked the one missing
box in the CV of our wp generals, meaning that | might indeed be a candidate to
succeed Moshe Vechetzi as chiet of statf. Ar first, I resisted taking the prospect
toa seriously. The job of ransarkal not only eimied responsibility for overall
command of the amied forces. Since our countey still faced multiple scourity
threats. the chief of staff was, along with Prime Minister and Defence Minister,
among the most impartant, influential and visible positions in Isrucli public life,
Yet as the April 1987 date for the changeover drew nearer, it wis difficull not 1o
think about it. Not only was T apparently under consideration. To judge (rom
media reports, and officers” smalltalk, it ippeared that Rabin had whittled down
the possibilities to two. One was Dan Shonmicon, and T was Lhe other.
Sull, it was voly when Rabin phoned me carly in 1987 that [knew it was
true and that 1 would not be getting the top job. “Ehud,” he said, “I wanted
you to know I've decided on Din ta be the nest ramatkat, 1 wml you 1o be his
deputy.” [ean’t say was surprised he'd chosen Dan, I wasn’t just that he was
more experienced, or even that, since he was older, missing out on the top job
this time would probably mean missing out for good. Yitzhak bud always
valued Dan's directness and honesty. his courage and record of service. Above
all. I'd long sensed that he felt a special debt io Dan: for Entebbe. Ata time
when so much could have gone wrong, it was Dun who had taken 4 fim,
conlident, suceesshinl hold on the operation.
Sill. I was now 45. For me no less than for Dan, | knew that if | was passed
over as chief of statf, there was no guarantee I'd be chosen the next time. “1
sespeet your deersion,” old Rubin. “And | five so donbl Din will be a good
a very good — chief-of-stall.” But {had tw consider my own future. “Liven
though I'm sratetul for the offer of deputy.” 1 said. “I think it’s better for me to
leave, To open up i new chapter, and do something else in life.”
Rabin said hie couldn’) accept that. “Come see me.” he said. “Now.” When |
got to Jerusalem, 1 emphasized again that I had no doubt Dan would lead the
armed forces well, But | said my decision to leave the military wasn’t a mere
whim. 1 biel been thinking about my awn future and soy family’s. We bad three
young daughrers. A few months earlier, we liad moved home again, into a wide,
ancestory rumbles wilh a big yiud oul back. [wis in a new lown valled Kochi
Yair. just inside Isracl’s pre-1967 border with the West Bank, and il struck me
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as a good time 1 settle down in a way that would be impossible iT stayed on in
the upper reaches of the military. Pechaps do something more academic, in a
university ar a policy think-tank,
For the firs time, polities had some uppeal, too, tough | didn’t say this to
Rim. At that point, | had no idea bow, or even whether, 1 might gel involved.
But since my appearance on Moked, others seemed to assume it might happen at
some stage, Out of nowhere. a lead political journulist, Hanan Kristal, had
wrillen w story in 1986 purporting w predict he successors Lo Israels political
old puard: Peres and Rabin in Labor, Begin and Shamir in the Likud. It
appeared in the newspaper Hadashol, The paper ran side-by-side photos of the
ostensible futue leaders, doctored 1o look older, who Hanan predicted would go
head-to-head in the election of 1996, a decade away. One was Tsrael’s
ambassador ta the UN and « protégé of Misha Arens: Bibi Netanyahu, The other
was ie
Rabin listened with patience to my obviously seuled intention to Jeave, but
remained firm that 1 should stay and become Dan's deputy. In the end, | agreed
Ue think things over and tht we'd tlk in i weeks time. In the meantime, 1
went 10 see lwo veteran generals who had found themselves in a similar
situation, mentioned as possible chiefs of statt but never chosen: Arik and Ezer
Weizman, 1 saw Avik on hs farm in the Regev. He wis obviously enjoymys his
extraondinary political rehabilitation since the Lebanon war. His expanding girth
was settled into a sofa in the living room. 1 filled him in on my conversation
with Rabin, “I’m considering leaving,” | sad. “It just seems like a long time to
wal, even i 1 do get the job aller Dan. Theres i lot else [wan to do wo like.”
Arik was probably Lhe genecal most experienced in being denied the chief-of-
staff's office. On at least two occasions. he might reasonably have been
considered. Bul in a career liuered with tense encounters with his superiors, il
never happened. “You should stay on.” he said. You're not that old. TU'IL
probably be good for you, and tae army. to be deputy aud then chief.” The only
farther advice he gave me was 10 do all 1eoukd Gomally 10 commil Yitzhak io
making me Dans successor after his term ended.
Tisited Czer at his home in the seaside town of Caesarea. We sat on the
femace, with Ezer’s gangly frame draped over one of the cane chairs, “Ehud, it
you stay, do you think you hive # good chance of being the next ramatkal,” he
asked. T said that while nothing could be certain, I thought there was a good
chance, He replied without hesitation: “Then stay.” He'd come close to the top
ob, be told me. On the eve of the Six-Day War, when Rabin had collapsed
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physically from the weeks of tension, Yitzhak had asked him to take over. Tle'd
said no. But be said he'd alvays believed he could and should have been chief-
of-staff and that if he hadn't left to go into politics, he still might have got the
ob. Then, suddenly, he shouted: “Retnnal’™ When his wilt appeared, he said:
“Tell Barak the missing piece in my life, the vae I've never stopped regretting.”
She smiled, and said: “It's the fact you did not become ramathi.
I saw Rubin a couple of days later. Though ['d pretty much decided to take
he deputys job, [was sill bothered by the prospect uf serving as deputy for the
next four years only to find someone else being named chief-of-statf. [ knew
that no mater what ussurances Yitzhale gave me, there was no way of bem
sre. He did sy he viewed me as the natural nexi-in-line. But sill fel hesitant
“T want you 10 consider two things,” T said. The first was a formal decision that
Dan would have only a single deputy during his time as chief-of-statf, He said
yes 10 thal. Yet the second request was going uw be even more difficult.
Tleartening though it was lo hear was Dan's “natural successor”, | asked him
to put if in writing. It was not that I doubted his word. Bu if the surprise result
al the bast election wis amy medication, there wis no way of predicting which
party would be in power when Den’s terms ended. | wanted hin to keep a
record of our understanding in his desk and pass it on if someone else was
Defense Minster by that time. Without a moment’s hesitation, he tok out a
picee of paper aud wrote doven exactly what he'd told me about the succession.
Tle shook my hand as Tleft. “You've made the right decision.” he said.
And 1had, even though Danand 1 and Rabin too would soon face by far
the most difTieul challenge iu Israel's conflict with the Palestivians since ous
capture of the West Bank and Gaza in the 1967 war.
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Chapter Fourteen
Tt began with an accident. On Tuesday, December 8, 1987, an Tsraeli tank
transporter crashed info a minibus caring Palestinians from the Jabalya
refugee camp near Lhe main crossing (vom Gaza into Israel. Four passengers
were killed
By the time of the funerals the next day, a rumor had spread. no less
incendiary for bem ubsurd, thal the crash had been deliberate relaliation for
he fatal stabbing of an seacli nian a Rew deys cadier. Crowds of Palostinians
leaving the burials began shouting “Death to [srael!” They hurled rocks and
bottles at Israch security patra, und blocked strets with burmng fires, By the
next day, the violence started spreading fo the West Bank, and then to parts of
east Jerusalem. The headline-writers moved from the word “disturbances” to
“unrest” and finally ta fhe Palesitnians’ own name for the mast serious outbreak
al violence since 1967: the “insifada”. Ue uprising
Atleast for the [ist weck or two, we assumed its ferocity and seale would
subside. Our immediate aim was to contain it, and limi fhe human cost on both
sides. Yel when Dan and [began visting umits on the front line of ts new
conflict, we realized that if it kept escalating, we'd have to find new tools and
strateyries to bring it under control. We were in charge of an anny trained to
caquip ind fight enemy soldiers. Now, we wre askmg leenage recrits fo
aperaic as viol police against sionc-throwing mobs. Before long. it wasn't just
stones, or even botdles. In one incident in Gaza, a young soldier was surrounded
by a crowd of Palestinians and stabbed. He opened fice, wounding two of hi
witackers. Yitzhik Mordechai, now the head of the southern command, told
reporters that his troops were under “strict orders to open fice only if their lives
are under threat,” That was true. But | couldn’t help wondering how lng the
atlier part of his statement would hold: hat we remained “in control of the
situation.™
We did feee in control for the first few days. Defense Minister Rabin was
away in Washingion on an official vasit. When bis office asked us whether he
should My back, we said there was uo need. But on his return, we quickly agreed
that, as a first priority, we needed to find an alternative to live ammunition in
quelling the attacks. Otherwise, wed be fell with two equally bad options:
cither simply stand aside, in order to avoid killing or injuring demonstrators: or
intervene with the inevitable casualties. But ane of our most important early
discussions was about the broader aspects of the violanee. The meeting, held
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outside the kiya in a facility just north of Tel Avis, was Rabiu's idea. In
addition to Dan and me, it included key members of the general stall and senior
defense ministry officials. The idea was for us to hear a half-dozen academics
and other specialists spel about the political uspects of the sudden euption of
Palestinian violence.
Though he spoke for barely 10 minutes. it was the last speaker who left the
deepest impression. Shanon Shamir, a professor at Tel Avy University, began
by emphasizing hie wis not an expert in riol control. Finding a response lo the
violence was something we were far better equipped to do. But then he paused,
looked miently at Rabin, an and me, and said: “What { can do is draw on
History.” One by one. he cited examples of more thi a dozen broadly similar
sebellions over the past century, in the Middle Bast and beyond. “TC we were
dealing with simple rioting, things might be different.” But he said the
Palestinians were, fundamentally, acting oul of a shared sense of grievance, and
shared national identity. Both were in large pact the result of Israel having
controlled their daily lives now for more than two decades. “I'm afraid I can
find ro historical precedent. for the successful suppression of the wtional will of
a people.” he said. Even when those in power used unimaginably punitive tools:
like expulsion, or forced starvation. “Tven, as we know well as a Jewish people,
exlermmation.”
glanced at Vituk and at Dan. Both of them looked like 1 Rel: fu no doubt
the professor was right, yet also aware that, in the short term, we still had 10 find
away of putting 1 lid on the cauldron and keepmy: the situation for getting
irretrievably out of control.
Twasa’t as if I'd been unaware of the sense of the anger building among.
many West Bank and Gaza Palestinians, or of their wish 0 see an end to Israel's
military administration and Ue rowing nmnber of Jewssh selllements. From
my tine ag head of the central command, © also knew that there was 8 young,
activist core intensifying: efforts to organize attacks on troops and settlers. But
none of us hud amy inkling that something of the scale, longevity and pohtical
complexity of the intflada lay ahead.
Pactly, this was a (ailuce of specific intelligence warnings. But it went deeper
thn that, Sobering though it was, [ had to accept that 1a less so than before
the Yom Kippur War in 1973 — Cand sony athens had for too long been
comforting ourselves with a fundamental misconception about our military
accupation und civilian seulement in the areas captured in 1967. The rools of
the myopia went back w the immediate aflormath of the Six-Day War, lo the
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generally eivil, and often friendly contacts, Tsraclis had wilh Palestinians at the
time. The local population had, after all, been under orier aecupation powers
before 1967: Jordan in the West Rank, and Figypt in Gaza, Assuming our
welmiviistution was ess onerous, most [sraclis believed i way 10 coexist could
be found. And hat sooner or later. there would be a land-for-peace agreement
and we would withdraw from at least most of the territory. But as the years
passed, with no sign of @ willingness by the PLO to consider any kind of peace
talks, we made the cardinal error of assuming the occupation was sustainable
Yes, there might be periods of violence. but nothing that a combination af
political resolve, arrests, detention and, where necessary, military force could
not hold in cheek. For us, and certainly for me, the Palestinians became
essentially a security issue. As one of Tsrael's finest novelists. David Grossman,
would lay bare in a bestselling book of reportage called The Yellow Wind, about
a year info the intifada, we had ceased 10 see ihe human cflects of 20 years of
occupation, not only on the Palestinians but on Israeli society as well
Yet the power of Professor Shamir’s presentation lay not so nwuch in its
novelty as iis succineiness, clarity md, shove all, ws timing. The rioting had
already pone on for longer than any of us had expeoted. 1 seemed to be
gathering strength. Buc until our meeting, we were still looking at it essentially
as a civil distirbince. That wis what began to change, For all of ws
Wha didn't change was the need 10 wy 10 bring the violence w an end. Dan
immediately put me in charge of looking for allematives to live ammunition. T
began with our own research and development engineers, We also asked military
aitachés in our embassies 10 talk 10 lsw-enforeemient agencies, academics, or
anyone else with knowledge of non-lethal methods of crowd control overseas.
‘Some of the more far-flung examples seemed promising, at least uncil further
investigation. South Korea had years of experience i confronting student
protests — gencrally, though not always, managing lo avoid (aualities. But it
turned out this typically involved sending in serried rows of up to 25,000 riot
pohce aginst a ow thousand campus protesters. Besides the fret we'd have
needed an army the size of the Americans’ 10 field enough soldiers. it was absucd
to imagine dealing with dozens of far-flung confrontations on any given day with
parade-ground formations of troops.
We looked at anything that seemed it might work. [u the varly siges, most
of the auacks involved rocks and bottles. Our R&D engineers developed a Jeep-
mounted “gravel gun” that fired stones ut a distance of up to 250 feet. They
could eause injuries, but weren't lethal. We acquired launchers for pepper spray
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and tear gas. We even looked at the possibility of dropping nels over crowds of
attackers. Very carly on, we shilled to using plastic bullets. But even that
presented problems, At a distance of a hundred feet or so, they could drastically
seduce deaths. But when i young recruit sin hundreds of Palestinians closing in
an him, he wasn't about 10 Lake oul a Lape measure. Over Lime, we began relying
wherever possible on rubber bullets and, in extreme cases, snipers to target the
legs of the organizers or ringleaders:
Fall of this sounds soul-destroying. that's becuse it was. Especially with
daily television coverage of the clashes amplifying overseas support for the
Palestinians, morale among our soldiers alsa took a batlering, In visits fo unis
an the West Bank and fu Gaz, Dan and 1, and Rabin oo, heard iwo opposite
responses. Some of the young soldiers wanted us (0 use maximum force. We are
the army, they argued. We have the weapons, Why the hell don't we use them?
But we also beard another view, if less often: why are we here at all?
We imposed elosures and curfews. We tiade thousands of arrests. Still,
hundreds of soldiers and settlers were being injured, a number of them
disfigured or disabled. By the end of 1998. the Palestinian death toll was above
300. In Uehruscy 1989, an lsraeli officer was killed by a cement bluck tossed
from a rooftop in Nablus. A month later, a Palestinian knifed several people in
Tel Aviv, killmg one of them. And m July, in the fist attempt mside Israel at i
suicide attack, a Palestinian passenger grabbed the wheel of a bus ou its way
from Tel Aviv 10 Jerusalem and drove it off the road. killing 16 people.
PT
By the summer of 1990, although the violence had begun o flag slihly, I
ws fecling more dramed and exhansted than al any ime sie my boul of
illness in the Sinai afler the 1973 war. | even briefly thought of leaving the army
after Dan's term ended the following year, 1'm not sure whether [ would have
done thi if the situation had nol begun to etunge. But {1 did, dramatically. The
intifada gradually began to subside, and an entirely new crisis suddenly
intervened.
On August 2, against a background of longstanding financial and territorial
disputes, Iraq's Sack Hussein seat in tens of thousands of his troops nd
occupied the neighboring state of Kuwait. Though the immediate crisis was
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nearly a thousand miles away from us, he tried to divert aeation from US-led
international condemnation of his invasion by threatening Issacl. [le said “all
issues of occupation” were on the table the West Bank and Gaza, the Golan
Heights, and Lebron — and vowed 10 “lef our fire cal hall of rach” in a futnre
wer. And we could not assume this was mere thetoric. Iraq had aa arsenal of
Soviet-made ballistic missiles. Called Scuds, they were not always accurate at
loug range. But they could reach Lsigeli towns aud cities, and could carry not
just conventional explosives but chemical warheads. Moreover, Saddam had
usead chemical weapons: during the Iran-Iraq war. and to kill thousands of his
own restive Kurdish population in the town of Halabja in the spring of 1988.
Even the prospect of American military action seenied not fo fuse hin.
Tlours into the invasion, he moved an armored (ores toward Kuwait's border
with Saudi Arabia, 1 key US regional ully, immediately prompting the President
George Bush’s administration to go beyond mere verbal condemnation. With
Saudi agreement. Washington dispatched a squadron of T-155 to the kingdom —
the first step in what would become a huge American land, sea and air force to
ace down Sedan andl Force bin oul of Kuwait
Given the credible threat of Scud missile attacks on Lac, Den immediately
assigned me to coordinate our assessment and evaluation of what Saddam was
Hikely to do in the event of a US-led attack, and what defense arrangements or
tne military response would he necessary. We knew we'd be under stiong,
pressuce from the Americans 10 stay out of any war. Israeli involvement would
be a political gift to Saddam, allowing him to convert 1 conflict over his
aggression against an Arab neighbor into « “defense” against “lssacli
occupation.” But we had a primary responsibility to protect our citizens
Twas now working with a new Israeli government. After Shimon Peres tried
und Farled 10 topple the wily coulition in the spring of 1990, Shamir hud formed
a Likud-led government shoru of both Peres and Rabin. Misha Arens was again
Minister of Defense, I began preparing: regular, fortnightly reports for him, Dan
wd Prime Minister Shamir. Within days of the invasion, | produced my imtial
assessment. The hotonline wes that we had 10 assume there would be & war. It
was impossible to imagine the Americans would commit hundreds of thousands
of troops and simply brmy them hame agam, imless Saddam suceinmbed and
retreated. | was equally certain Saddam would use bis Scuds against us. He'd
figure the benefits of trying to bring Tsracl into the conflict far outweighed the
nisl of retaliation, But | was “nearly 100 pee-cent sure” he wouldn't use
chemical warheads, since that would almost guarantee an Israeli military
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sesponse, or an Ametican one, on an incomparably greater scale. Tt would also
totally isolate Saddam internationally and end any chanee of peeling off Araly
suppart for the Americans,
It was my nearly 1 00-per=cent caveat Thal prompled i nse debate withm the
cabinet. Even if the probability of a chemical attack was microscopic, any risk
of civilians being subjected to terror, panic and very possibly agonizing death
meant that the government had to take precautions. The obvious first step would
be 10 distribuue was masks. But in 4 series of mcelings with Misha and Dau, |
emphasized this was not a decision thar could be taken in isolation. By handing
out ras masks, we might actually mise the prababality of u chemical aftack, We
also his 1 mke sure a3 i mater of wzancy that we bad # workable military
option to attack Traq’s Seud launchers.
By early November, | was dealing both with plans for distributing the gas
wuss and preparations Tor a possible imililary aperation. So when 1 got w call
asking me 10 report w Shamir's ofTice in Jerusalem, | assumed he wanted to talk
about Iraq. “How are things?" he asked. But when I began by filling him in on
the plans to distribute the gis-maskes, he internpled me. “Cealled vou eve,” he
said. “because | wanted you to know that we've decided that when Dau leaves
next April, we want you to replace him as chief-of-staft.” Briefly and unusually
tongue-tied, 1 smd: “Thank you, Prime Mimister”. The news was made public
the next moming. A few days later, it was ratified by the government, There
was only one vote against, fiom a former chief of stalf who was now Shamic’s
Agneutture Minister: Raful Eitan,
Twas one of ruse instances in all my yess m the my when 1 took a siep
back, appreciating a moment which felt special. It was not only, or even mainly,
a matter of a personal ambition fulfilled. Mare a sense that [ was being given
the opportunity lo apply everything I'd experienced and leaned fn the amy,
from the day | first joined Sayeret Matkal as an 18-year-old, to improve the
security and safeguard the fiture of Israel. [ know that sounds comy. But, while
fhe momentim toward war m Iraq almost immediately crowded ouf everytime
else again, that was truly how | fell
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By mid-December 1990, war was virtually certain. Misha aod [had been to
Washington in September and ageeed with the Americans that, unless we were
attacked by Saddam, we would stay out of it, To do otherwise was clearly not
just again the US-led eoulition’s interests. Given the importance of our
alliance with Washington, it was against vue inceresis as well. Yet with
hostilities obviously getting closer, Misha phoned Defense Secretary Dick
Cheney a few days later to remind him of the guid pro quo: we would be kept
fully in the Joop about the dewils and timiog of the initial American air steikes.
Ataround five o'clock on the atternoon on January 16. 1991. Misha got a call
from Cheney. He said “h-hour” would be at seven that evening Washington
time. Three aan. in Lal.
Though we hoped to stay out, I'd now spent months coordinating and
overseeing preparations to ensure we could attack Saddam’s Scuds if necessary.
By far most of the missiles were mounted on mobile launching vehicles, and
Saddam was almost certainly going o be Firing them from the vastness of Trag’s
western desert. That meant an Israeli air strike alone wouldn't work. We
decided on a joint air und ground operation, bill around i newly created ar
mobile division and other special units. A force of 500 1o 600 soldiers would
take control of key areas and road junctions in western Iraq and start hunting
andl destroying, or al least wpedmyg, the Send launchers,
We also engaged in seeret diplomacy in the hopes of reducing auc of the
obvious risks in such an attack: a conflict with Jordan, which we'd have to
overfly to reach Iraq, The Mossad had a unit culled Feved, uw kind of shadow
foreign ministy for stales with which we had no formal relations but wilh
which. in both side’s interests, we had a channel of backdoor communications.
It was headed by Ephraim Halevy. a London-born Israeli who had come to
Palestine in 1948 us 1ecner. He hud bull up a personal selitionship with
King TTussein, and now accanged for us to meet him al a country residence
which the king had in Britain.
A few weeks before the war, 1 boarded 2 private jel 0 London along with
Uslevy and Prime Minister Shamir. Shamir had never met the king before and
not, of course, had I. Buc we didn’t talk about the forthcoming meeting on the
five-hour flight. Instead, Shamir opened up m i way 1°d never seen: about his
childhood as part of a relatively well-off family in Poland: his love of literature,
and of the Bible. In a way, it reminded me of how my father had spoken to me
when Iwas growing up minus the “well-off fumily” part
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When we go to Tlussein’s country home, we were greeted by an
impressively self-assured man in his late 208 who, like Hussein, had studied at
Britain’s military academy in Sandhurst and then gone on fo Oxtord, Tt was
Abdulla, the Langs son sun baer his sneeessor, and he explained that he wonld
be in charge of handling sceurity for the talks. lor a few hows ia the afiernoon,
we held preliminary discussions, and 1 presented our assessment of the
challenges and options facing all the different players in the erisis. Then we
setired to a dinner at which — despite the soyal china, crystal and silverware —
the atmosphere was alsa surprisingly informal.
The main meeting came the next morning. Both sides recognized the
seriousness of the issues we had fo discuss. Shamir began with 1he one we
assumed would be the least dificult. Tsrael was on & heightened state of militacy
alers, prompted by Iraqi reconnaissance lights over Jordan, and the likelihood
he Traqis were also haping to get a look at our main nuclear research and
development Eacility in the nearby Negev. IL was important 10 ensure this didn’t
lead to an unintended contlict between us and the Jordanians. While the king
ws careful lo siecr clear oF my detailed comment on the Ini moves, he mide
it clear that he understood vue concern about stumbling int an sracli-Jordaian
conflict and agreed that we had to avoid doing so
et the issue of our overflights, if we needed to atic the Seods, wis more
sensitive. We said that iC we did have 10 cross info Jordanian air space, we
would find whatever way the king suggested to make it as unoburusive as
possible. We raised the possibility of using a mimow wir corridor. His response
was mot hostile, but it was fir. | his was au issue of Jordanian sovereignty, he
told us. TTe could not, and would not. collaborate in any way with an Tscaeli
attack on another Arab scate. It was Ephraim who tried to find a way around the
apparent stalemate. He suggested Simi and the king withdraw to speak alone,
ad they met for nearly an hou. When Shamir emerged, olasping the kings hand
and thanking him for his hospitality. he wurned to us and said: “OK. We're going
home.”
Ue dido’t tefl us exactly what Hussein said. In the few sentences with which
he described the talks on he flight back, he said that, as a sovereign, Tussein
could not order his forees to ignore Israeli planes, But he added: “1 assume there
will be no war with Jordan” | wok that 1 mean there might well be sm aucmpt
to intercept our jets. with the risk that either we or they might end up with one
of our planes shot down. but that the king would use bis wuthorty and
experience to ensure this didn’t lead tv a wider confrontation.
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PEE
“The srueli public's concem over a possible Iruqi attack was growing by the
day, in part because of the precautionary measures we'd taken. We had handed
out gas masks to the whole country. Though I'd been concerned that might raise
the prospect of a chemical attack, | sill thonghl i chemical stmke was highly
unlikely. The government rightly decided that of distributing the masks would
betray a fundamental responsibility to the safety of aur citizens. We'd also
issued instructions about how to equip a room, usually the shelter included in
nearly every lsracli home, as a cheder afm, or “scaled oom” 0 keep gas from
getting in. The Israeli media was full of speculation about the likely effects of a
chemical attack. Many families had begun panic buying of food and other
necessities lo prepare for the possibility of days and nights in their sealed
shelters.
In my report for Dan, Misha and Shamir a few weeks hefore the war, I drew
on syslematic umalysis by a Lean of experts in the Israch air force nd made my
most specific estimate yot of the damage conventionally armed Suds might
cause. We had gone back into historical accounts of the closest equivalent: the
Nas’ use of V1 and V-2 rockets agains! London m the Sceand World War.
Given Saddam's primary need to fight Americans, and the likelihood either they
or we would take military action against the launchers. we concluded we'd be
hit by roughly 40 missiles, and that, based on Britain's wartime experience, up
10 120 Israelis might lose their lives us a result.
The first air-raid sirens wailed in Tsrael af about 2 a.m. on Januacy 18. 1991,
almost exactly 24 hours after the Americans begaa their bombing raids over
Baghdad | wits home im Kochay Yair. Like other Israelis, we'd set up a seated
shelter. Though T felt a bit silly doing iL, having assured the goverment Saddam
was vanishingly unlikely to use chemical warheads, we woke up the kids and
Neva toak them inside. © pit on my own gas mask. Bul when 1 ran out to my
car, [removed my mask and put it on the passeoger's seat before heading in to
the fir. [ wanted to get there quickly enough so that the bor, the underground
command bunker, wouldn't have to reapened when | arrived. [ took a short-cut,
through the West Bank ww of Qalyilya. | hat wes, tw put it mildly, swpid
Although the inifaada had become steadily less intense during the build-up to
the war, 1 was’ completely over, Within seconds, my black sedan wirs being
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pelted with stones by a half-dozen Palestinian youths. T thought to myselF: this
is nuts. One of Saddam's Scuds might well be about to hit Iscac), and I've got
myself stuck in ae middle of a West Bank town. Ta the obviaus shock of the
Palestinians, | floored the accelerator and raced toward Tel Aviv. 1 sill tok
half-a0-hour. Misha and Dan, who lived eloser to the Afri, were alseady in the
buaker.
Ten Seuds hit near Tel Aviv and Haifa that night, (¢ was nat until shortly
before dawn that our tracker units got back 10 us with Rormal confirmation that
there had been no chemical warheads. The rockers caused a half-dozen injuries.
though thankfully none was serous. Still, the very fet Saddam had proven he
could hit seal with ballistic missiles provoked widespread alam. Well ina the
next morning, the streets were almost empty. Misha phoned Cheney and
strongly implied we were going to hve to attack the Scud sites. { know that was
Misha's awa view, and it only hardened after another fouc missiles hit the Tel
Aviv area the next moring. Again, 10 oc was killed, but several dozen people
were injured from debris, shards of plass and blast concussion. 1 visited several
af the mes tht had heen hit amd was shocked by the seake of the damage. One
four-story apactment building had been virtually destroyed, and thers was blast
damage to other buildings hundreds of yards away.
“The Americans were clearly determined, m both word ind deed, to persuade
us not to take military action. They rushed an anti-missile system called Patriot
10 Tsrael. Cheney was also giving us frequent updates on American air sikes
against suspected Seud kumeh sites. And the Israel public did seem to urasp the
serious implications for the US-led conlition of our teking unilateral miliary
action. Opinion polls suggested most Iscaclis wese giving Shamir eredit for the
way he was handling the crisis.
Sill, it wasn’t casy for Shamir to hold the ne. Ths was the first Hime since
1948 that enemy munitions had landed ou sracli homes, provoking not just
fear, but a feeling of helplessness. That inevitably led to calls for the army and
fhe wovermment to do something, si bis dilemma first-hand al an emergency
cahinel meeting afer the fist two Seud attacks. or Arik and Raful, the political
effects on the US coalition were irrelevant. The issue. for them. was simple:
smack erties had been attacked, and we should respond with amy and all force
necessary. Our air force commander, vib Ben-Nun, favored going shed with
the joint and-and-ground atack we'd prepared. and Misha agreed with him. So
did Dan Shomran, The key voices of caution were Foreign Mimster David
Levy: Ariye Deri, the leader of the Sephardi Orthodox party Shas; and two
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young Likud politicians, Dan Meridor and hud Ole, with whom [had
become (ciendly. They. like me, were concerned about undermining the
Americans” military and diplomatic coulition.
Shami mostly listened, until very near the end. He then asked an Meridor,
Misha and me to join him in a separate room. Ile asked each vf us for our
views, Misha, even more strongly then in front of the full cabinet, argued that
we could not allow night after might of missile attacks withaut responding
Meridor reiterated his opposition. siiessing the damage we'd risk doing 10 the
Americans’ war effort by possibly weakening Arab support for their attack on
Saddam, When Shamir tumed to me, 1 said that if the government did decide on
military uction, we were ready. From a purely military and sceuily poi-of=
view, [ said, an auack made absolute sense. Even if we dido’L succeed in
destroying, or even finding, the mobile lameh sites, putting a military farce on
ihe ground would almost surely lead Lo a dramatic reduction in the number of
Scud launches. But, echoing Meridor, T added thal a military response would
carry a price in our relationship with the Americans. My view was that, at least
for now, we should hokd off.
When we rejoined the meeting. Shamir rapped his hand ou the table. fn the
startled silence that followed. he said he shared many ministers’ urge to hit back
against the Sends. But he said: “Az ths stage, we're not going to da anything,
We bite our lips and wait.”
Three nights later. bis resolve was strewched almost to breaking point
Missiles landed in the Tel Aviv suburb of Ramar Gan, and nearly 40 homes
were damsged. A three-story house was fattened tn all, nearly 100 peopke were
injured, and three elderly residents died of heart attacks. On the night of January
25, another seven Scuds hit. Nearly 150 apartments were badly damaged. and a
S1ayeur-old mim was lalled. The pressure on Shamir was all fhe greater because
the Ramat Gan auack had come within range of one of the American’ Patriot
batteries. The Patriots had been originally designed not as anti-missile weapons,
but fo utnck sirerafl, and they seemed fo have been incfietive, Nor were
American air strikes in lag stopping the Suds. Though American jets had
taken out a few fixed launch sites. they were having no luck with finding and
destroying mobile lunch vehicles,
Even Shianiv now fel. that unless the Americans got the mobile kunchers,
we would have to attack military action. 1 was sent to Washington along with
Mists and David Ive, former ar force conmnder, 16 defiver that message to
{he Bush administration. From the fist days afer Saddam's attack on Kuwait,
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T'd been impressed by Presideat Bush's political acumen in assembling an
international coalition including the key Arab states. Through Unit 8200 in
military intelligence, we would only very occasionally get verbatim transcripts.
af his conversations as hi brought first The Saudis and other Gull states on
board, then Morocco, and eventually even Syria. More often, I'd sec the
President's deft diplomacy second-hand. through intercepts of Arab leaders
communications with one another. Bul the picture which emerged was of an
American president defily able 1 stake out common ground. and common
interests, with each of the Americans growing number of anti-Saddam allies,
When we entered the Oval Oftice on the evening of February 11, Bush was
Dianlend by Sceretary of State Baker, Delense Sceretary Cheney and rational
security adviser Brent Scowerofl. Also there was Colin Powell, a general whom
had got to knaw well, and to like, aver the past few years and who was now
head of the joint chiel3-0f-s(aff. Given the seriousness of our mission, the start
of the meeting was almost suceal. The Americans had obviously been told that
Iwas bom on February 12. Since it was just past midnight in Israel, they began
by washing me i happy 49 birthday
Yet pleasing thought that was, it became clear there was a disconncet
between the tension among Israeli govemment ministers. and ordinary Israelis,
buck home and the refixed, self-assured, at times even jovial mood of fhe
President and his inner circle. Their primary focus was clearly nou on Iseael, but
on the overwhelming success of their air attacks on Trag and the approach of a
ground offensive that they were confident would finish the job. That didn’t
seem fo elinge even aficr i Iruly extraordinary infemption fo our meeting,
when one of Misha's aides passed on the news that a Seud had struck the Tel
Aviv suburb of Savyon, where Misha himself lived. Ie immediately excused
himself und went 10 phone bis wale, Muriel, 10 confirm she was fine. When he
setuned. despite theic pro forma words of empathy, it seemed almost as if the
Americans thought we had cooked up the entire thing for political effect.
Bush did say the right things us the discassion timed to the missile attacks
on lsracl. He told us he understood ew frustration, and the pain the Scud
launches were inflicting. Tle appreciated our restraint. T have no doubt that all of
thst was true, But the message we'd been sent fo deliver clearly wasn't hitting
home. As politely bul as clearly as 1 could, 1 told President Bush that while we
didn’t want to do anything to undermine the coalition, unless someone else took
care of the Scuds, we would have no choice but fo act.
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The President cesponded by suggesting we 20 to the Pentagon and talk in
greater detail about how, for both vue counties’ benefit, thal could be avoided
When we convened in Secretary Cheney's office, 1 delivered the same message,
but more forcefully. 1 ell it was essential nol only lo make il clear we sions
about taking action, but that we iad the militacy capability 1o do so. So 1 10ld
Secretary Cheney and Colin what we were planning. I said we intended to
launch a combined air and ground assault by an air-mobile force and our best
paraicoop units. Al that point, Colin, who was clearly worried, suggested the
two of us withdraw to speak “soldier to soldier.” We retreated to his office.
Spreading out a map of western Iraq, 1 went into greater detail, explaining how
wee would remain in the Iraqi desert on a scarch-and-destroy mission against the
mobile launchers. Colin stressed the efforts the Americans were making from
the air. and the commitment they'd shown to Israel. Not only had they delivered
he Parions. They had allocated their best fighter jets. F-1SE's, 10 the task of
taking out the Scuds. Tt helped that he and Thad got tw know and respect each
other, so it wasn't an all-out argument, But [ reiterated that if the Seud attacks
kept up. we wauld have to act, “We will ast,” | said, For a few seconds, he said
nothing. But as we headed back 10 join the others, he wld me that only a few
hours a0, he had briefed American commanders on an anti-Scud operation by
“allied forces” like the ane we were planning, “(twill happen,” he assured me.
“Within 48 hows.”
Tha task fell to Britain's SAS. The operation was almost exactly the same as
the one we'd planned. A force of nearly 700 commandos was helicoptered in to
Irag’s astern desert, equipped with Jeeps and Land Rovers, and anti-tank
missiles and laser targeting capability. They were also able to call on attack
helicopters and F-15 jets if necessary. The operation did not prove easy, quick,
or entirely successful. The British troops blocked the niin roads and patvolied
them. But they did not find or destroy a single mobile launcher. They ended up
in pun bateles with Iraqi troops. The SAS lost something like two dozen men.
Five were part of a group that got separated from the others and ended up
freezing to death in the Februzuy cold. All of the men risked their lives. with
incredible determination and bravery. in an operation to secure the safety of
Israels civilian population. And | have no doub that fhe outcome, like the plan,
would have: hea almost identical if we hind done it owseves.
And it did have an effect. As T'd told Prime Minister Shamir when briefing
him on our attack plan, the very fact of a military presence on the ground made
dramatic difference, The number, seeuracy and impact of the Sends dropped
off steeply. A few missiles kept coming, however. Since we did not yet have a
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fully detailed pietuce of the progress of the SAS action, skeptics aod hawks in
the cabinet were inclined w see a glass hal f-emply. They continued to press for
Israeli military action,
In a rare public statement, I tried to reassure the country we did have a
military vption. bul also to urge restraint. | pointed out that the number of Seuds
had begun decreasing. Though the threat had not been ¢liminated altogether, we
hid “very good operational plans” that would be “eanricd out when and if the
Lsracli government insituets us to implement them.” Yet | added a caveat, “On
the political level. fingers are itching to carry out operations which, in our
opinion, ean remove fhe threat, But in the complex situation created by this war,
neither anger, hurt, nov itchy fingers can replace rational thinking.”
The American ground invasion did tw out 1 be swift and decisive. In
Israel, Scud artacks continued for a few mare days. But the last two missiles fell
in the Negev before dwn on Febuary 25. among the very few to canse neither
casualties nor damage. We turned out o have heen right in vur pre-war
assessment abour the number of missiles: around 40. Fortunately, the casualties
were far fewer than we'd anticipated. Not 120 dead, but fificen, only one of
whom died directly beeause of a missile blast. The other deaths were the result
of understandable panic: the misuse of as masks or the gas antidote drug,
atropine, ot from respiratory and cardiae filure. The physical damage,
however, was fur greater than I'd anticipated. Buildings were destioyed. Cars
were crushed. Glass and debris (lew everywhere. In financial terms, the cost jan
to hundreds of millions of dollars. The frue impact was greater; on families who
saw the destruction non only their homes, but a lifetime of prized possessions.
Tor Tolocaust sucvivors in particular, there was the almost unimaginable Leeror
of having to huddle in sealed rooms for fear of pas. And all Israelis had
experienced wniew sense of valnerabilily 10 i faraway enemy whom they
couldn't see nor, apparently, stop.
PE
Twas due to become Israel's 11™ chief-of-staff at the start of April, barely a
month after the lust Scud attack, As the handover drew nearer, 1 felt forfunite,
ina way, 10 have missed out on the job four years earlier. Not only had Dan
excelled as ramati. 1'd benefited from his range of experience. his judgment,
und bis trust as well. We he worked together iruly as # lam,
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Twas grateful not only to Shamir for naming me chisf-ol-staff, but lo Rabin
and Misha. Both had honored the assurance Yitzhak had given me that I'd be
Dan's successor. | also discovered Misha had played in even greater role than
Ueissumed. | knew there wold be other candiceaies for the job. The strongest
turned out lo be Yossi Peled, who was the head of the northera command and
possessed the undoubted credentials to be an excellent chief-of staff. What I
liadn’L heen aware of was Lhe sentiment among some in the Likud that [was the
wrong choice politically. Not only liad been boen on a Labor kibbutz. There was
the small matter of the article in Hadasho! several years earlier, imagining me
as a Labor leader poing: head-to-head in a future election against Bibi
Netanyahu for the Likud.
Yossi was assumed 10 be more of a Likudnik, and a (ew weeks before Dan
left office, 1 leamed how Mish had rebutted the suggestion 1 was politically
unfit o lead the armed Goees. Tle was visiting the north and was Laken aside by
2 pcoup of Likud activists who asked how he could possibly be thinkiog of
supporting Burak — a Labor puy — for chief-of-staff. Ac first, Misha didn’t reply.
Bul one woman kepl pressing him
“Do you have children in the army?” he asked.
“Yes. 1 have a son in the Golani Brigade,” she replied proudly.
“$0 Tet's assume your son is goin on a raid across the border. Would you
went his company to be led by the hest commander in the baualion? Or by a
commander who's Likud?”
“The best commander, of course.” she said.
“To which Misha said: “Well we do, two.”
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Chapter Fifteen
On the morning of April 1, 1991. [ gol up even earlier than usual, Lo visit the
graves of the men who had Jost their lives in my battalion in the Yom Kippur
‘War. [ also went to pay my respects to Uzi Yairi, killed when he'd rushed from
his desk in the kinva 10 Join the Sayerct Matkal attack af the Savoy Hotel. Then
Nava and | drove 10 Jerusalem. AC lsracl’s national military cemetery ua Mount
Herzl, we stood betore the resting place of Nechemia Cohen, Yoni Netanyahu,
Dado, and Avraham Aman, From there, we went to the Prime Minister's office,
With Dan Shomron and his wife looking on, Shams preseried se with my third
star and formally made me chief of staff.
For years, 1°d develaped the habit of carrying around 4 notehook in which
Fel joi down thonghts on things 1 thought tht the Grae] military, and © as in
officer. could have done better: errors, oversights. and how we might fix them.
In the weeks before becoming rusmetial, 1d tilled dozens of pages an issues
Hinge amd smal {hoped to address as the commander of the med forces. A lot
al them dealt with what | sensed was an crosion of cohesiveness in the army.
and, since ours was a citizen military, a fraying of the relationship between the
army and Issacli society. Ta some degree, this was inevitable in a comniry now
nearly 45 years old: developed economically and free of the Lind of existential
threat we'd faced in the early years of the state. But the political divisions over
the war in ©ebanon, and morale-sapping need ta quell the violence on the West
Bank and in Giza had further strained our wity of purpose.
Militasily, we wee now indisputably strong enough to defeat aay of the
Arab armies, even if they kamehed a joint attacle as in 1973, Our most impartant
overseas ally, the Uniled States, was connmiled 10 helping us retain that
position — what both we and they called [racl’s “qualitative edge” - in the
interest of our security and their own, Buf we were facing a series of new,
unconventional chillenges. One of them, which had come on 10 Dan Shomron’s
and my radar over the past year. was ian. Though geographically distant, it was
potentially the most serious in the longer run, as Dan himself warned [sraelis in
his fimal interview as chief of stall. Iran was likely to becom even more
assertive regionally now that the Gull War had weakened ifs nicighbor and vival,
Iraq. We also knew, from our intelligence sources, that the Tranians were
muking preliminary efforts fo develop a nuclear weapon,
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Yet the most immediate security concerns were right next door. Tn Lebanon,
izhollah fighters were being armed and financed by the leanians and by Syria
as well, They were mounting increasingly effective operations against the
Lane troops wed left nthe scenrity zone. Fven closer To home, Palestinia
attacks on both troups and civilians. though on nowhere neac the scale of the
fist months of the fntifids, showed no sign of ending. T had my ow views on
bah. In Lebanon, sill believed we should pull out all our troops and Focus our
sceurity arrangements va what ceally mattered: protecting the citizens of
northem Israel. As for the lessons to be leaned fram the intifada, my view that
we needed a political dialogue had inadvertently become public, from remarks |
made in Moshe Dayan’s honor at 8 memorial event a few months before
becoming chief of staff. “We are curently in a struggle with the Palestinians - a
Tong, bitter and continuing struggle,” I said. “A people cannot choose its
neighbors. But ve will live w talk 10 the Palestinians abou matters, especially
about issues that are vital to them.”
Still, Iwas the commander of the armed forces. not a politician. Though all
hifi of staff had political mfluence, if only ts part of the decision-nalans
process on all major sceuwity questions, making policy was for our elected
government. My main focus was on how to improve the military's fitness to
respond. 0d lived through, and more recently fought in, all of frac’ wars. |
felt that we had yet 1 apply some of the editical lessons from those conflicts.
Leading tanks into battle against the Egyptians deadly Sagger missiles in 1973,
and a decade later watching whole Israeli armored columns stalled and attacked
by small bands of PLO fighters or Syrian conuandos in Lebanon, had hardened
my conviction that Israel needed a leaner. mote mobile army, with more
specialised strike units, as well as more easily targeted, less vulnerable weapons
systems. Lywimted to shift the emphists to weaponry that relied on Iseacl’s
strengths in new technology, invention and engineering. Tn a sense, this was the
macroscopic equivalent of one of the puiding principles of Sayeret Markal:
brains, no just brawn,
While cost-saving wasn't he catalyst, [ did realize that a change in stialegy
would mean a change in how we allocated our resources. When Istael bought its
first Mirage ets from France in the 1960s, they cost about u million dollars
apiece. he price tag of an 1-16 was now closer to fifi million dollars. The cost
of a tank liad increased tenfold. I wasn't going to deprive the air force of state-
of-the-art aircraft, key to our ability to fight and win a war. But while we still
needed i strong armored carps, it was important To reahiz: that units hike the
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new aie mobile division we'd planned to use against Saddam's Soud launchers
were likely to be a Jol more important than tak formations in future conflicts.
Six days into the job, [ called together every officer in the army, from the
rank of ficutemant-colonel up. sid we needed 10 remind ourselves of the
army's purpose: 10 proteet Israel's sceurity and, ifs war came, lo win it. My
budgetary rule of thumb over the next four years would be simple: anything that
didn’t direetly contribute to tht mission was expendable, In fact, 1 put it a bit
more bluntly: “We need to cut anything that doesn’t shool.”
My first attempt failed uterly. I proposed to close, or sell off, the army's
radia station, Galed Tzahal, Running it cost serious money. If we were going to
cul everything tht dient shou, it was an obvious cindidite. Bat what 1 failed
to take into account was its popularity with the listening public. Although other
radia stations had opened recently, for many years it had been the only major
altemative lo the stite-fimded Kol Yisnsel. [t also provided a Insining ground
and employment feeder for futuce journalists. Gale Tzahal’s alumi included
some of the country’s top media figures, and more han a few members of the
Kessel. Within weeks. a lobbying effort was underway 10 “save” the station. {
went lo sce Misha. He agreed that, from a military and budgetary standpoint.
closing: it was the right thing to do. Bur in an early lesson in how different
polities were from fhe sammy, he fold me tht pofisicadly, it simply wasn’t going
To ly. “Drop it, Ehud” he said. So 1 did
Sul, T did end up fuadamentally retooling the armed forces during my lime
as chief of staff, We developed agile new strike forces and high-precision, high-
toch weapons sysiems with “stand-ofT” suitions designed 1 he fired from
many miles away. In the 1973 war. and for the decade or two that followed,
Saggers, and the US-made TOW missiles that Israel acquired after the war, had
the capbility lo transform a battlefield. Now, Israeli developers came up wilh
small, ground-launchied missiles that could take out & tank from five 1o 10 miles
away, even without a direct line of sight to the farget. Of even more long-term
military significance, | pushed head with developing pilotless drones so-
called UAVs — making us the first army in the workd to produce and deploy
them.
Yel for a security challenge like the intifada, even the most advanced stund-
aff mmitions or LAY offered no practical answer, The bates stage iv the
wiolence involved knife attacks by Palestinians against Israeli civilians. both an
West Bale seth and inside [smcl. Days afler | took over, i 26-year-old from
Gaza, wielding a butcher's knife and shoutiog Alef Akhbar, killed four people,
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including a Nindesgarten teacher. in Jerusalem. On the moraing of May 24,
1992, a |5-year-old Tseacli schoolgirl named Tlelena Rapp was on her way lo
catch the bus ta school south of Tel Aviv, when anofher Gaz stabbed her to
death. To the extent Talis were lookisg for someone to ble, there woe
abvious candidates. The amy. the primary defense against Lhe intifada, was
one. The police even more so, since many of the attacks were now taking place
inside Israel. And in ugly rioting afer Helena Rapp’s murder, bands of Israclis
took to the streets, some of them yelling: “Death to the Arabs. Still, most
people understood that criticizing the army or the police, or going: on a rampage
against “the Arabs” hundreds of thousands of whom were Israeli citizens and
had lived among us since the birth of the state — would not help. Mos, in fact,
placed the blame, and lodged their hopes. with the goverment.
By the time of the next election, in June 1992. the combination of Palestinian
viokace and the still-tumatic memories of Saddam's Seuds, left Tscaelis
doubuful that Shamir could fulfil the most basic responsibility of goverament:
ensuring their day-to-day security. Labor had once again placed its electoral
fortuncs in the hands of Yi Rubin, following Peres’s several failed
attempis 1 lead the pacty back into power. Knowing that Rabin had a recoed of
military command unmatched in Istaeli politics, Labor strategists did not so
much need lo convince voters as to reinforce their fears wd Frustrations. One of
the campaign slogans. a direct appeal 10 the anger over the stabbing of Uelena
Rapp, was “Get Gaza out of Tel Aviv!” Labor ended up gaining five Knesset
seats, and now had 44. The Likud Tost eight and was left with only 32.
That ment that my bast three years as chief of laff sould be with Rabin
back as Prime Minister — and. like Bea-Gurion before him, as Defease Minister
as well. He and 1 had been in touch only occasionally since his departure from
he turity-coalition government two yeas carfier. Bul | had. of couse, spoken
with hin after my appointment as ramaskal, in which he'd played an imporiant
pare. Though he was 20 years older thon me. our relationship had become
steadily closer over the yes, especially when 1° worked wits him is Defense
Minister. In some ways, we were alike. We'd both been forged by Labor
Zionism. We were career military officers, uncomforcable with flights of
political rhetoric and convinced that Israel's security and its future depended
Tess on ywords than on action. In large groups especially, both of us tended 10 be
men of a few words. Over the next few years. we would become even closer,
spealcing not only in the ya or at Yitzhak's office in Jerusalem. but also, with
Nava und .cah, aronnd the dimmer table at Rabm’s apartment m Tel Aviv.
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PEE
But there were times of crisis. and high tension, us well, Only tive months
aller the election. Rabin and 1 Faced onc of the most painful periods during my
entire time as chief of staff. It began with the gruesome death of five Sayeret
Matkal soldiers during a framing exercise in the Negey desert, 1d made
preventing such accidents a Lp priority. By the end of the 1980s, they were
claiming as many as RO lives a year. During Dan’s tenure, we'd brought fhe
number down to about 35. But 1 knew we had to do more, When 1'd addressed
the oflicers aller becoming elie of sta, [old them: “Parents are giving us
their children in order to allow us to protect the country. They know there is risk
involved. But they expect their children not to be brought home in coffins
because of our own negligence, or stupidity.” What happened at the military
base of Tze’elim in the Negev on November 5. 1992 was not only a reminder of
how far we still hud ta 50, however, It occurred during «dry rum for an
operation unlike any that (sacl had ever considered, For that and ather resans,
it would exupt ini a major political controversy.
Though the reason for the exercise was meant to have remained a closely
guarded scerel, Corenm newspaper reports in he weeks afler the faimmyz
accident made seercey impossible. We wore planning to infilicale a Sayoret
Matkal unit into Iraq. and to kill Saddam Ihussein.
The Gulf War had blunted any immediate threat from Iraq. But Saddam liad
proven he could launch missiles into the heart of Israel. We knew from our
intelligence reports that, in addition to his unabated desice to acquice nuclear
arms. he retained facilities to produce chemical weapons. [le was frying to
uequire und develop new biological weapons. In fact, the [ragis had actually
acknowledged a biological weapons progeam 1 UN inspectors. claiming it was
for “defensive purposes.”
The idea for un attack on Saddim had first been raised a year cadier, when
my former Sayeret Matkal comrade, Amicam Levin, asked w see me. He was
between military postings, but had come up with the outline of a plan he felt
would allow us to isolate Saddam during a public appearance and kill him, With
my approval, he andl a small group of oflicers in the sayeret began working
further on the idea, with the initial aim of seeing whether it was really workable.
Since Misha wees till Defense Minister, | briefed him on whit we were doiug. |
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also briefed Rabin afier the election. At that stage, there was no discussion of
whether we actually would, of should, Lacget Saddam. [asked Misha, and then
Yitzhak, only whether such an operation might seriously be cansidered by the
sovenment. 1M, 1 sid, we'd drop it. Both replied that we should go ahead
with the planning and preparation. The November 1992 excreise was intended
as a final test of its viability — before deciding whether actually to do it
A few weeks carficr, Rabm and | hud talked through the arguments for and
against. The arguments agaist if were obvious. Yes, in the past we had
abducted. or even killed, leaders of groups involved in terror attacks. But we'd
never contenmplated targeting u head of stite, Crossing that line risked bemy
sent nol just as sacking a dictator with 1 record of vthlessness ind murder at
home, and aggression towards Tseael. but long-aceepted norms of interaational
relations. The arguments in favour begun with the fact that Saddam was a
meglomaniacally ambitious dictator. Tle had also fired missiles on our towns
and cities. Tle retained the capability Lo arm them with chemical wacheads,
possibly biological agents, and conceivably a nuclear warhead in the future.
Both Rubin and agreed there were two key tests of whether an attack would be
justified: was it was the only realistic way of confronting the threat from rag,
and would killing him end, or at least exponentially reduce, that threat.
“Though there was na final decision at our mectme, Rabin was elearly
inclined to go ahead. An lseacli TV program two decades later uncathed a
summary of the discussion, written by his military aide. “The Prime Minister
approves the target... This is an operation we should go for when the probability
al siceoss is very high” it said. hus, we have to build the operational
capability in the best possible way, and continue preparations.” In another par.
of the record, Rabin is quoted as having defined the elimination of Saddam as a
“meaningful objective” with implications for “the very scenrity of lsmiel.” He
added: T do not see anyone similar 10 him in the Arab world”
1, too, was on balance persuaded we should do ic. In the years since, I've
sometime reflected on whit happened with Saddam still in place: the 2003
invasion of trad. led by the younger President Bush, the tens of thousands of
lives lost. the willions of dollars spent on a war without any clear end. and the
near-disintegrition of Iraq. But with the complexities of Iraq then md now,
there can be no simple answer 10 how the situation would have changed if we'd
Killed Saddam. Our view. based on detailed intelligence analyses, was that the
Hikely result would have been a fairly rapid fikeover by a few top security and
Baath Party (igures and that, while the new Iraqi leadership might ry to cetaliaie
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with terror attacks. a major military response was highly unlikely. Saddam's
Sucoessurs were never poing 10 be Zionists. Bul we were persuaded that his
uniquely central Tole meant the threat to Israel would be dramatically reduced.
Frmmueh less sure whether the elder President. Bush, whose election deft
10 Bill Clintwn came just two days before our (inal exercise in the Negev, would
have agreed with the attack. After the victory in the Gulf War, Bush had
deliberately stopped short of sending American forces on to Baghdad. He was
also vice-president, under Reagan, when Israel had bombed Saddam?’s nuclear
reactor an attack publicly condemned by Washington. I did ask him some
years ugo whether the Gulf War might hive been handled differently if sme!
hadnt iken owt Suddam’s nuclear progr a decade earlier. “What if he'd bad
& couple of crude nuclear devices,” T said. President Bush smiled in response.
He said he didn’t deal with “hypothetical,”
Yet amy idea of an [srscli atack on Saddam became mstanily inselevint once
foreign media reports liad disclosed the reason for our ill-fated military exercise
in the Negev, Inside Israel, the tacus, and the controversy, shifted to the
acerdent itself
The foreign medi eports of the opertion we were planning proved
remarkably accurate. Some of the details still remain classified, bur we were
going to use one of our new “stand-off” weapons systems: a camera-tuided
missile thi could be fired from a considerable distance away und, in
coordination with one of the Sayeret Matkal soldiers nearer in. maneuvered in
for the strike. After months af planning and intelligence worl, we were
conficlent that we'd Cound a wy 10 get the ssyeret unit nto lag, large! Saddam
at an event we knew he would be attending, isolate and kill him with minimal
danger of any other casualties, and get our unit out safely again, The Negev
excrvise wis i run-through of the entire apeaation. 1 sted needy 48 hours. And
it culminated in a simulation of the missile attack on Saddani.
Iwas there as an observer along with Amnon Lipkin. my deputy chief-of-
staff; as well us the hend of military mielfigence, the head of aperations and
Amicam Levin. We assembled at dawn for the simulation of the missile atack.
We watched from a few hundred yards away as a group of young Israeli soldiers
walked inta a wide area in front of us: posing as Saddam” and his entourage.
We — and they — knew that his was just the frst pn of the exercise. In a Land
Rover more than five miles away. a member of the sayerer strike unic would be
confirming coordinaics und, in rapid succession, “Firing” Iwo of ihe precision
missiles. But this was just lo confirm that the targeting system had worked
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perfectly. No missiles would actually be shot. This stage was for the telemetry
Once that was done, the soldier-actors would be replaced with wooden Largets
and the real munitions would be tested.
The young soldiers skied chatting to one another, and milling abonl,
simulating as best we eould the cireumstances in which we expected target
Saddam if the operation got final approval. [n theory, within a minute, two
minutes #t most, we would get ward that the prelminary mock-firmg sequence
hud gouge perfietly — al which point the arillery-range targets would be brought
in for the live test. But suddenly, there was an explosion. A split second of
silence, Then pandemanium, There was na need to know, and no me to
wonder, what exictly had gone wrong, ov how il had been allowed to happen. 11
was obvious tv all of us that the five missiles had been fired. We sprinted
forward, When we got tw the group of soldiers, we could see that four of the
young men were dead. Another was fighting for his life. Several others were
also wounded.
A sayeret medic and several senior officers were trying to save the most
bracly: jure man, but [knew [needed to get militiry doctors nd medical
evacuation helicopters in immediately if we were 10 save the lives of the injured
soldiers. 1 had a mobile phone, but couldn’ ret a signal. [ ran toward a slightly
higher area « few dozen yards way and mamiged to get through to the kina, 1
issued orders for the neavhy training base in Tze"clim and an air force near
Beersheva to dispatch helicopters to treat and evacuate the wounded.
We heard the first chopper about 25 minutes later, but it seemed initially
wible to see us, because it Oew on before retummye and nding two mnites
later. By that time. a medical team from the base in Tze'elin had arrived. Ten
minutes later, twa other medevac choppers landed. But the soldier who had
heen worst wounded conkl not be saved. Afier the doctors had been there abou
20 minutes. | again retreated to the area where | could pet a mobile signal, aud
phoned Rabin ta tell him what had happened. We agreed | should come back to
bref lim in detsil, 10 was now about SO minis since the missiles hud ht, The
wounded were all being treated. Oue of the helicopters had taken of? for
DBeersheva ITospital. Another two, including a heavier Sikorsky transport
helicopter, were preparing ta leave, 1 iranized for Amnon, military intelligence
chief Shmuel Avad and me lo ret w the kirve. 1 whi Amivan lo stay unil he
had confirmed all the injured had been evacuated, and talk to everyone involved
10 get a prefiminary wea of why and how the tragedy had happened.
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When T got back, we immediately met with Rabin and agreed on the need to
launch a formal investigation. Rabin then asked me to brief the “editors club”, a
group of about 15 media figures that operated on a gentleman’s agreement that
there would be no publicity or kesks. He believed we should nou mike public the
[act that [and other generals were there when the accident occurred. At this
stage, we still hoped to hide the purpose of the exercise if possible. something
Rabin kanes would be harder iit was kaowa the top military leadership had
abserved the excreise. When I bricted the editors” elub, 1 did tell them in
confidence that I'd been there. Though not specifying the reason for the
exercise, 1 told them it was for a major operation. The time-honored
understanding was hat this information would go uo further. But it did,
presumably at first because of leaks by Israeli journalists. then in a series of
detailed reports in the foreign press. Even more frustrating on a personal level,
some of the Iscacli reports insinuated that far Geom giving the editors the fll
story of who had been at the Negev exercise. that I'd tried 0 hide my presence
in order to protect my reputation or shirk responsibility.
Twa official inquiries followed: the one we'd agreed with Rabin and a
standard army legal investigation. They found the cause of the tragedy to be a
mix of fatigue after some of tae soldiers had spent nearly 48 hours awake,
pressure, confusion and negligence. Astonishingly, if timed out the codeword
for the mock-(iting of the missiles in the fist stage of Lhe exercise was the same
as for he live missiles. Formal charges were brought against two Sayers
Matkal officers, and reprimands issued to Amiram Levin and Uri Saguy. I was
also subjeet 10 eriticisn because, duc to the unique complexity of the plan, I'd
put Amiram and senior officers within Sayeret Matkal in charge of different
aspects of the preparations. This was viewed as possibly reducing the clarity
over wha was ultimately responsible for cach wspeet of the planning. Neither 1,
nor of course Rabin, had played a ditect role in what went wrong in the exercise
irself. To the extent I'd been involved, it was to make sure the medical teams
were helicoptered in, and thit the injured soldiers were cared for and evacuated
as soon as possible. But politically, the tragedy at Tze’elim would dramatically
resurface for both me and Rabin several years later - after I'd left the military
and was on the verge of jominie his goverment,
[was petting 1o know Yitzuk mich betler. The Defense Minister's office in
the Airy was just down the hall from mine. Almost without fail on Friday
aftemoons, he'd ask me in to chat before going home. We would sit around a
Tow table in the comer of the room, cach of us sipping coffee. or sometimes
‘beer, and Rabin invariably putting on a cigarefre. He never raised questions of
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pany politics. But we talked at length about Israel's immediate sceurity
concerns, as well as the country's longer-term challenges in finding its place in
more stable, peaceful Middle Fast. How, over time, we might manage to
exineste oumselves (rom the escalating viokanee with Hizbollsh: reach a land-
for-peace deal with the enigmatic President Tale al-Assad in Sysia: and find
some form of coexistence with the Palestinians
He also spoke ubout international politics. [ remember ane afiemoon in the
summer of 1992 when he mentioned the then US presidential candidate Bill
Clinton. He'd met Clinton for the first time in Washington. after two days of
full with President Bush at his summer home in Maine. Rabin was naturlly
more combontable dealing with Republicans. Almost all bis experience in public
life — as a military officer, ambassador to Washington, Defense Minister and
Prime Minister had coincided with Republican administrations, The irony was
that be would go on to forge a much closer relationship with President Clinton
than between any previous Israeli and US leader. But bis first impression was
more skepical. “Clearly. Clinton is very intelligent,” he said. “Ile is
surprisingly stunp politically for someone Ins age. But also, [ Gear, i hille bit foo
slick.™
«ore
We did not have long w focus on the lessons and implications of Tze"elin.
For weeks before the training accident, a crisis had been building in south
Lebanon, with a sharp escalation of the now-familiar mix of clashes mside our
“security zone” and cross-border rocket attacks. TTizbollah was now armed oot
ust with Katyushas but Sagpers, American-made TOW anti-tank missiles and
un mereasingly sophisticaied any of roadside bombs. A combination of
Tlizhollah auacks and “feiendly fire” incidents or firearms accidents involving
our troops meant that Israelis were still dying in Lebanon a decade after the
formal end of the war. [L was demoralizmg for the [smack public, for the soldiers
who we rotated into the security zone and for he government as well. The
difficulty was that it was also a situation that perfectly suited [lizbollah.
In Tate October, a Karyusha rocket had claimed the life of a 14-year-old bay
in the northern [sracli lown of Kiryat Shoo. Hizbolleh escalated iis rocket
fire in the days that followed. forcing tens of thousands of residents into their
shellcrs. Predictably. there was pressure fromm Liked politicians to hit back hard
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Raful Litan, who had founded a small right-wing party called Tsomet, went
further. Te called the attacks “an act of war™ and said we should “respond in
kind.” We did move troops and tanks to the border, Rut my view, which Rabin
shared, was tat a ragjor ground operation would risk wiring onrselves more
deeply without fundamentally improving the situation. izbollah was the kind
of nonconventional enemy I had in mind when I'd taken stock of Israel's
changing seewity imperatives on becoming ehiel of staff. 1 was a small force,
entrenched and well armed, increasingly supported by lean and Syia. Its tactics
Tested on quick-hit attacks on our soldiers in south Lebanon, Far from tearing
military retaliation, Hizbollah knew that short of a 1982-scale war and maybe
even then — it would survive. [Lalso didu’L care whether Lebanese civilians died
in the crosstire. In fact, like the PLO fighters who had controlled the area before
1982, Hizbollah deliberately fired into Israel from civilian areas.
Neither Rabin nor I had abandoned the idea of a large-scale military
operation at some point, pasticulacly if the cross-border socket fise didn't
subside, which for a while it did. But we were determined that, if and when we
did decide 10 strike, we would avoid uny thing on the sealc of the 1982 war.
would have to be with a elear, finite and achievable goal.
That point finally arrived in the summer of 1993. [n addition to renewed
Katvusha strikes, there was a series of deadly Hizbollab attacks m the first two
weeks of July inside the sceurily zone. Each used what was becoming the tactic
of choice: a remotely detonated bomb by the side of the road on which our
military vehicles were travelling, followed by an ambush of soldiers who
survived the blast. Six Israelis had been killed im all, making i the largest
monthly toll in three years. When T went 10 see Rabin with ow plan for a
‘military response, 1 recognized the risks. It would be {he largest military
operation in Lebanon smee the war. Bil | believed we could limit cavilian
casualties, and that it was the only approach that might lead to a significant
reduction in the missile attacks on norchem Israel. I began with the assumption
thigt, fell to 11s own devices, Hizbollsh would bave no incentive 10 stop fing,
Since the two Arab governments with the potential to rein in the attacks —
Lebanon's and above all Syria's — were showing no interest in doing so, we had
to find a way to hold them to account.
“The operation | proposed was intended 10 send u message to Beir and
Damascus. It would not be a ground invasion as in 1982. Most of the auacks
would be from the ar, in two stages. The first would target Hizbullah, both in
southern Lebanon and in the Bekaa Valley further north, near the border with
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Sytia. We could halt al that stage, in the unlikely event Ilizbollah showed signs
af de-escalation. But if it didn’t the air sicikes would intensify. The aim was not
target the nearly 250.000 |ebanese civilians who lived in the immediate border
wee Twas 10 use our ailacks, along: with leaflet drops and radio messages, To
encourage then o flee north. My assessment was that this would bring pressure
on the Lebanese government and. through the Lebanese, on the real power in
Lebaaou, the Syrians. | doubled Damaseus would respond dircely by telling
Uizhollal to cease fire. 1 did believe they'd be ready to cugage with American
efforts to stop the fighting, and that Rabin and the government could then secure
terms we were prepared ta accept.
On July 25. we began our heaviest air sivikes since 1982. Fa from producing
a sign of a climb-dowa by izbollah, it responded with intensified rocket fire
We escalited aver the following 24 hours, but still with na indication of amy
change from Tlizballah. So as planned. we expanded our bombing 10 widec
areas of south Lebanon. Sadly. some Lebanese civilians were killed. which I'm
sure was a much preater cause of concern to us than to izbollsh. Thanldully,
however, the wijorsty fled north. In south Lebanon, his meant ihut onr jeis smd
artillecy had much greater freedom of uperation against Uizbollah, which had
now lost its human shields. In Beinur, a government suddenly overwhelmed
with the need 10 provide shelter for the kre number of refugees from the
fighting did press Syrian President Assad to help bring it to an end. Critically,
the new Clinton Administration, especially Secretary of State Warren
Christopher, reinforced that message.
Our military operation lasted just a week. 1 diel mor end Hizbollah nitacks on
Tsraeli troops in the secucity zone, something I think even most Tsraclis were
coming to realize was impossible as long as our soldiers remained in Lebanon
Bul the rackel atiicks on northern Israel did stop, will very few exceptions, for
a period that lasted neadly two years.
The intifada, however. had not stopped. Not, as 1 kaew from my increasingly
frequent meetings with Rubin, had the search for a way both lo control the
viokuee, and seek oul any realistic prospect of a political path 10 resolving our
conflict with our Arab neighbors.
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Chapter Sixteen
Rabin bad inherited a peace process. put in motion by the Bush
Administration after the Gult War, But since both Prime Minister Shamir and
our Arab enemies had reasons of procedure. politics or principle to resist the
talks, merely getting them aff the ground had required the same combination of
defines and determination President Bush had brought to assembling his
wartime coalition and defeating Saddam. After a formal apening session in
Madrid, the “bilateral tracks” between Israel and negotiators from Syria,
Lebauon, Jordan und the Palestinians — hud quickly stalemated and stalked
Yitzhak came to office saying he was not interested in a peace process.
which seemed 10 him a Ticense far endless talk with no set endpoint, but in
peacemaking. Smee 1 had the good fortune 10 be part of the mformal inner arcle
with which he discussed the potential opportunities. pitfalls and frustrations
along the way, 1 know fhat he wasnt assuming we could necessarily achieve i
peace agreement with ny of onr neighbors. But aller the twin shocks of the
Lebanon War and the Scud missiles, he was concerned that Israel would retreat
into a mix of political caution and military deterrence which he rightly believed
wis short-sighted. He believed we needed af least ta try lo seize a “window of’
appocunity” with those enemies who were al least open 10 compromise, if only
because we were facing: new threats from enemies for whom tall was not even
wn aption, An inereasmply assertive Iran, with nuclear smbitions, was ane. But
he intifiuda had also thrown up new Palestinian groups grounded not in
nationalism, but fundamentalist Islam: Tamas in Gaza, which opposed Tsracl’s
presence om ny part of “Muslim Palestine,” and Islymic Jibud on fhe West
Bank. And in Lebanon, we were confionting the auisn-backed Shite wilt
fighters of Tizhollah
Each of us in the small group on who Rabin relied for input on the peace
talks brought something different to the mix. bn addition to me, there were four
ater generals: Uri Saguy, the heed of military intelligence: Gadi Zobar. in
charge of civil administration for the West Bank and Gaza; my own former
sayeret depnly, Danny Yalom, who wis head of the central command; ind
Rabin’s military aide, Kuti Mor. Also included were longtime political and
media aide Titan Taber. and another trusted political adviser thousands of miles
away: ltamar Rabinovich, our ambassador in Washington and lsracl’s leading
Sytia expert. But I'm suce we weren't chosen just for our insights. Tt was
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because we were people with whom Rabin fell comforable —a counterpoint, [
suspect, to the old Labor Party rival whom he had made Foreign Minister,
Shiman Peres. Though the two men had grown fo respect each another over the
yeas. Risbin neither tisted, nor much hiked, Shimon. tn fet, thongh Peres’
support inside Labor had secured hint the foreign ministry. Rabin had stipulated
that all peace talks would remain under his control.
Yet as 1'd discover nearly u decade later, when | was Prime Minister, even
the most carchully planned negotiating strategics were always subject lo
setbacks. diversions, or simply what former British Prime Minister Harald
Magmullan once ealled “events, dear boy, events,” Rubin’s initial plan was not.
to stat with the Palestinians. He did feel if was essential 1 try lo reach a
political seitlement with them. Tn one respect, the prospects looked slightly
better than before, Arafat's political position had been weakened: first by an
intifada driven as much by local insurgeats as by the PLO in faraway Tunis, aod
then by his decision to break with his longtime Gull Acab financial supporiecs
and support Saddam Hussein the Gulf War. In 198%. as the entry price for a
formal dialogue with the Bush Admmistation. he had also agreed to a statment
inn which he renounced terrorism and aceepted the principle of a wo-stale peace
agreement with Israel. Still there remained a yawning gap between the “self-
ule” envisaged in the Camp David accords of 1978 and the Madrid conference,
and the independent state the Palestinians wanted. Negotiations w bridge it were
likely 10 be fraught and long.
So he'd decided to begin with Syria. President Assad was obstinate, and
publicly opposed to the ides of making peace with Israel. But he'd been in
power for more than two decades aod, crucially (or Rabin, had lived up to the
few, indirect agreements Israsl had made with him. The substance in any
agreement, though politically difficult, wis also more straightforward. We knew
what Assad wanted: the ceeovery of the Golan TTeighs, in cetura for the
absolute minimum level of political normalization with Ismael. We kaew what
we wimted: seenrity grarnices nd assnrances regarding water resources, and i
full and final peace treaty. Vor Rabin, there was an additional atraction in
beginning with Syria: if we did reach a deal with our main Arab enemy, the
pressure would intensify on the Palestinians ta follow suit,
“The dramatic tum uf events that uliimately forced hin to change tack began
in January 1993 in the sitting room of a villa outside Oslo. at an ostensible
“academic seminar” convened by the Norwegian diplomat Terje 1 arsen, It
included two Tsraeli academics with personal Lies Lo prominent Palestinians:
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Yair irschield, and the historian and former Haaretz jouroalist Roo Pundak
Three PLO officials were there, led by Arafat's closest cconomie aide, Abu
Alu’a. Thaugh both of the sraelis were friends of Yossi Reilin, 1 protégé of
Peres and onr deputy foreign minster, even Paes didn’t know abont the
meeting until Yossi told him the following day. Rabin knew an hour eter, I lirst
leaned of it from Uti Saguy, after Unit 8200 intercepted Arabic-language
traflic concerning a briefing the Norwegians had given their Arab contacts. Al
fist, even Peres was skeptical that the paper ageced at the “seminar” — calling
for intemational aid ta the West Bank and Gaza on the scale of the Marshall
Plan, and an initial Isracli withdrawal limited to Gaza would lead fo serious
negotiations. But Rabin authorized follow-up sessions in mid-February, late
March and agaia in April. Our intelligence teams continued to provide detail.
and occasional calor. Uri Saguy and | even began to use the Arabic shorthand,
from the intelligence reports, for the two Israeli acadentics. The busy. bearded
Yair irschield was “the bear”. The slighter Ron Pundak was “the mouse”. Yet
the main poitical impetus in driving the process forward came from two men
who were not there; on aur side, Yossi Belin, and for the Palestinians, Arafat's
trusted diplomatic adviser, and eventual successor, Mahmoud Abbas, or Abu
Mazen.
Since Rubin knew | was following the ostensibly secret talks, we discussed
them often. loc quite a while. he remained dismissive. Le believed the chances
of a breakthrough were remote. Ie was alsa suspicious of the involvement of
Peres and Beilin, whom he called “Shimon’s poodle”. And he deeply distrusted
ArafaL The PLO had been founded with the ain of “liberating” every inch of
Palestine. The fact that Acafat had agreed to the Bush Administration’s demand
to accept the principle of land-for-peace struck Rabin as mere sleight-of-hand.
By the third Oslo meeting, it was clear that the Palestinians were open ta an
agreement that would fall well short of “liberatig Palestine”. Still, Rabin was
leery. Ile tried briefly co return the focus to the stalemated Madrid-track talks
with the Palestinians. Yet when, with obvious PLO enconragement, the
Palestinian negotiators suood their ground there. hie seemed alist resigoed lo
supporting Oslo. When we discussed it, he used a battlefield metaphor. “When
you have to bral through, you don't necessarily know where you'll succeed
You ry several places along the enemy's lines. In the sector of the front where
¥ou do succeed. you send in your other forces.” It was a matter of “reinforcing
success.”
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“I's the apposite in this case.” [replicd. “In a battle, the eneeny is doing.
everything it can to stop you When you break through, it's against theic
resistance, Here, the other side will choose to make it easiest for us in the place
prefers. UF Avalia thinks bell get more from (he Bes and the Mouse thin from
the other talks, it's hardly a surprise we're finding that only Oslo seems to offer
a way forward.”
Rabin did make one mare move, not so much in a bid to end the talks in Oslo
as 10 slow them down aud create a context more favorable Cov ihe kind of
agreement he wanted. He shifted his attention to his original peacemaking
priority: the Syrians. In an effort to remave a roadblock to even beginning
serious talks, he offered the Americans what they wonld later call bis “pockel
deposit” Tle authorized Secretary of State Warren Christwpher to tell Assad that
Washington s understanding of our position was that, assoming ull our own
negotiating concerns were addressed, we accepted that peace with Syria would
include withdrawing from the Golan. The formula was agreed in a meetiog in
Israel berween Rabin and the Clinton Administration's Middle East negotiator.
Dennis Ross. Rabin didn’t tell Peres or other misters about if, though lm
Rabinovich did know. 1 did as well. Sinec acceptance of he need for a
withdrawal had security implicadions. Rabin and I talked abou it in detail
before Ross™s visit, We formulated the “deposit” together. We uscd an Fnglish
acronym: IAMNAM, “iCall my needs are met.” The poial was 10 convey Lo the
Syrian president that if he addressed our requirements for a demilicarized zone
and early warning facilities; non-interference with our critically important water
sources: as well as o full peace including embassies, open borders aud joint
economic projects. we knew the trade-off would be to return the Golan.
It was by diplomatic accident that the Syrian overture went nowhere. The
reson even the Americans hid called our proposal a “pocket deposit” was that
it was Lo be kept in the Christopher's pocket, 10 be pulled out as an American
warderstanding of our position if he felt it might lead to a breakthrough. Our
intel hgenee sccomnts of the Chrisiopher- Assi Iafks, however, snggesied it. had
been presented as a straight message from Rabin 1o the Syrian president, giving,
ic the status of Istael's new, formal opening position in negotiations.
The distinction may seem minor. But for Israel, it mattered greatly. In any
agreement with Syria — ur, indeed, the Palestinians — there was bound lo un
imbalance. Both parts of a “land-For-peace™ exchange were important. But land
ws mot Just the more tangible asset, Once given up, short of resorting to all-out
war, there was no going back. The “peace” part of the equation was more
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difficult. Genuine peace. and trust, would inex itably take years to cach fuition
That was no mere academic problem in a conflict where, for decades, our
enemies had defined Israel's mere existence as illegitimate, The reason for
Rabin’s reluctsmoe fo have his “deposit” presented as a sel negotiatmy position
was that il meant dealing away our only card — teritory — before the bard
questions about peace had been answered. When he phoned Christopher. [ don't
think [ve ever heard him as angsy. That wes sof what we agreed, he insisted.
Ue said it had spoiled any prospect of serious negotiations on the peace side of
the balance. Christopher didn’t agree there had been any real damage. nor that
Assad had failed to understand the context.
1 might not have changed things anyway, since by this stage, the Oslo talks
had almost completed a drafl agreement. Tn mid-August, Rabin gave Peres the
go-ahead to initial this “Declaration of Prmeiples.” It provided for a period of
interim Palestinian self-goverament; the start of a phased Israeli withdrawal
[rom Gaza and the West Bank with the eceation of a Palestinian police force 1o
deal with internal security; and a commitment to reach a full peace agreement
within five years. fn early Sepranber, ahead of the fonmal suming of the Oslo
declacation, there was an exchange of “letters of recognition” between Arafat
and Rabin. Arafac’s letter also renounced “terrorism and other acts of violence”
wad declared invahd “those articles of the Palestinian Covenant which deny
Israel's right 10 exist” A few days later, the signing ceremony was hosted by
President Clinton in Washington. Thus emerged the famous photo of Rabin and
Aratat shaking hands, on either side of Clinton, who was beaming, arms
ousireiched iu conciliation. They say a picture is worth a thousand words. In
this case, you needed barely a dozen. Rabin’s demeanor, his posture, the look
on his face, all seemed to say: “[ would rather be shaking: the hand of anyone on
carth than Arafat” Soll, the image was on front pages worldwide, The news
stories spoke of a new spirit of hope. Now that these old enemies had grasped
hands, surely a full peace agreement yas within reach.
My teeling, as 1 watched it on TV in the kirya, was more guarded. 1 did hope
for peace, of course. | also recognized thal the signing on the White louse lawn
was just a beginning, and that my role would be to ensure that Israel's security
needs were met under whatever formal peace agreement might eventually be
reached. And the sceurity omens were hardly encouraging. Despite Oslo.
Palestinian attacks were continuing. ITamas, Islamic Jihad, and other dissident
factions saw Aratar’s concessions as treachery, and were sefting out to drive
home that point with vialence.
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woe
Yet as 1 approached my final year as chief of staff in early 1994, we were
suddenly confionted by an appalling act of Zsraelf violence: mass murder,
commited by a West Bank settler. Terrorism, no less than the worst Arab
aitiacks on lsuach civilians. The seiller wis named Bauch Goldsicin, a
physician. who lived in Kiryat Arba. One of the first posi-1967 Jewish
settlements, it sac on a hill outside the West Bank town of Hebron. At the heart
of Hebron lay the burial place of the patriarchs and matriarchs of the Jewish
Gaith: Abraham and Sarah: Isaac and Rebecca: Jacob and Leah. Since Abraham
is also revered as a prophet in Tslam and a mosque had stood on the site for
nearly a thousand years, our post-1967 arrangements set out separate times of
worship for Muslims and Jews. Goldstein chose to attack during a holiday
period for both faiths: Pucim for the Tews and the Muslim holy month of
Ramadan, He arrived shortly afier the Muslims” Friday prayers began on the
mommy on February 23, He was dressed in his reserve army uniform and was
carrying an automatic cifle. Tle upened fire on a group of nearly 800 Palestinian
worshipers. He had killed 29 and wounded 125 others by the time several of his
intended victims knocked him imconscious and beat him to death.
rushed to Sde Dov airport in north Tel Aviv, i few nines from the Kiya,
and boarded a helicopter for the old British fort near Ilebron, used by the
Jordanians until 1967 and now Israeli headquarters. After visiting the scene of
the killings. | sought out local Palestinian leaders, 10 voice my condolences and
the sense of outrage I shared over what had happened, and to urge them to do all
they could to maintain calm. [ then went to Kiryat Arba and conveyed the same
messige.
Our immediate lask was to preven moce deaths, on either side. [t was a
frustrating. and violent, week. Protests reminiscent of the fist days of the
ntafada erupted around the West Bunk, m Gaza, in cast Jerusaken and in several
Auab neighborhoods and Lowns inside Israel. While [ had no wouble
understanding the Palestinians’ anger, 1 also had a responsibility to prevent the
vialence spiraling aut of control. We tumed to the same tools we'd used ar the
beginning of the uprising — though with even greater emphasis on the need for
soldiers to use the only the necessary force to restore order, and to avoid causing
fatahtics wherever possible, We closed off the West Bank. We imposed curfews
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an the main West Bank and Gaza towns and refugee camps. We also imposed &
curfew on Kiryat Arba and, for the fics time, wese given the authority to use
administrative detention orders no just against Palestinians, but specific Jewish
settlers. We inrested shout a half-dozen leaders of Kisch, Uh Gu-right, anti-Arb
political movement founded by the American Rabbi Meir Kahane, of which
Baruch Goldstein had also been a member. Sill. there were repeated clashes
anyway — and dozens of deaths as a result — before things finally began to
subside a week or so later.
The massacre had made me feel more strongly than ever that our
responsibility to protect the security of fhe settlers could not extend to allowing
them to defy the goverment or the kw. The principle woukd be put fo the lest
within a few weeks. A settlement near lebron, called Tel Rumeida. had been
set up without govemment approval in 1984. As part of the response to
Goldstein Killings. Rabin was thinking of closing it down. That prompted a
amber of right-wing rabbis Lo issue a formal seligious culing against any such
action. Rabin called me in to ask whether it would be operationally possible to
dismantle Tel Rumeida and remove the setlens. 1 said yes. by sending in a
Sayerel Mathal force aller midnight, as long es news of the operation did not
leek ahead of time. “We'll take over the area, close it off aud get control.”
Given the tensions m the wike of the massacre, | did add thet 1 couldnt pronmise:
that our soldiers would hold fire. “There are people in there with weapons,” {
said. “If someone shoots at hem. they will shoot back.”
“Should 1 do it?" he asked me. Maybe 1 saould have given him an answer.
But | didn’ Reel it wis my place to dd 10 the pressures around shat was chendy
a finely balanced call, especially since my inclination would have been to tell
him to 20 ahead. 1 said ic was something only he could decide. “What 1 cur tell
yous thi we ean do iL” When | lefl, my serse wavs tha bie was sulficicutly
angry over what had happened in lebron that he fel. it esseatial to draw a line —
the line of law — over what settlers were allowed to do. But the Passover holiday
ws now i couple of ebay away. | Think what happened vs tha he realized the
operation would uot be possible until afer the holiday period. By then, he was
concerned he would have lost the clear political logic for moving against Tel
Rumeida. The settlement has remained in place, a flashpoint in the conflict
between settlers and Palostinians in Lhe arca around lebron.
The wider repercussions. and the controversy. from the massacre
reverberated widely. Rubin and his cabinet immediately decided to establish an
inquicy. under Supreme Court Chief Tustice Meir Shamgav. IL would look into
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every aspect of the killings — including any failings by the army, the Shin Bet,
the police or other authorities thet might have allowed the tragedy to happen
The commission interviewed dozens of witnesses, Israeli and Palestinian, in 31
separate sessions. | knew carly on hal the inquivy would throw up ditfiea
issues. 1 was especially upset to kara that two soldicss and thee border guards
scheduled for guard duty at the mosque had shown up late on the morning of the
Killings. By the time | testified in late March, the inquiry had heard from a range
of senior and local commanders and individual soldiers. A picture had emerged
of a series of security breakdowns, equipment malfunctions, oversights and
confusion around the site where the murders took place.
{did not try to dodge the Fact that security lapses around the Cave of the
Patiacchs that day had contributed to what happened. Tn addition to the fact that
the guard unit was not ax full strenith until after the murders took place, several
ol the security cameras weren't working. T acknowledged that if the cameras
and the guards had done their job, at the very least some lives might be have
saved. Yet I also made the point that chis specific act of mass murder was
something the army could nol have mtieipated. | old the commissioners lo
remember that they were judgiog things afier the fact. They knew how the
tragedy had ended. In the context in which we were operating, the prospect of
an Tsrachi settler, a reserve soldier, walking mio # place of worship and
deliberately killing defenseless Palestinians had cone as “a bolt ftom the blue.”
‘The commission's report did not apportion blame to any of the army officers
or commanders, Rut an inescapable conclusion from the testrmany of the many
witnesses was thal the way in which we'd become conditioned 1o viewing the
settlers had blinded us 10 the kind of crime Goldstein had commited. Tven
before testified. I'd been disturbed to hear soldiers saying that even if they had
seen him shooting a Palestinian, their orders were not lo open five on # seiiler,
50 they wouldnt have intervened. When asked about this by the commission, T
said it was a fundamental misunderstanding of our rules of engagement. “In no
cuse is there, nor eum there be, an many order iad sys it 1 fosbadsden 10 shoot al
a settler even iC he is shooting al others... A massacre is & massacie. You don’t
need special orders to know what to do.”
Yet 1 also knew that the soldiers’ “misunderstanding” was all too
understandable. As | acknowledged to the inquiry, ie army on the West Bank
and Gaza was predisposed to see Palestinians who were carrying weapons as
potential terronsts, especially since the outbreak of the intifada, The settlers, by
contrast, were assumed to be careying arms in sell-defense. One lesson T took
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from the massacee was that the mix of Jewish settlers, some of whom felt they
were on @ messianic mission to vesettle all of Biblical [sracl, and restive
Palestinians who wanted sovereignty and control aver their own lives was
potentially toxic, for both sides. Ileally, The process whieh hae begun with Oslo
might stact to disentangle it, though I remained far from confident that anything
resembling full peace would come any time soon.
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Rabin, and even more acurely Shimon Peres, believed it was important to
press ahead with the opening phise of the handover of Israeli authority mapped
out by Oslo. To May 1994, a draft of the so-called “Gaza and Jericho First”
agreement wis completed. Once if was ratified, the five-year interim period
would begin, with firther wil hdrsvals and pan lel negotiations on the
“permanent status” of the tervitories. In this first step, [sacl would transfer civil
authority in Gaza Strip and the Jordan Valley town of Jericho to the
Palestinians, and local seounty would be in the hands of a newly created
Palestinian police force.
My primary concer, and my responsibility, was the security provisions in
the agreement, since fhe Istach army retained its role in charge of overall
sceurily. When [went to sce Rabin a few days before the vebinel meeting 1
approve the Gaza-Jericho agreement, T told him T was worried that it left room
far potentially serions misinderstandings, fricnon and even clashes on the
ground. “There wis no elear definition of how our soldiers would operate
alongside the new local police in the event of a lerror attack, violence by TTamas
or Islamic Jihad. or, for that matter. a car crash involving an Israeli and a
Palestinian. He agreed this necded to he addressed, wthough it wis clear he
intended Lo do so with Asafal, via the Americans, nol by reopening and delaying
the formal agreement.
Bul 1 had a deeper concern bout the entire Oslo Agreement, whieh [ also
now raised with Rabin. [did not doubt the importance of reaching a political
agreement. and ideally a peace treaty, with the Palestinians. Buc I'd now read
the Oslo Declaration in greater detail, and discussed it with lawyer friends of
mine. I'd also re-read the 1978 Camp David framework on which the sel rule
provisions were based. The endpoint was pretty clear, just as it had been at
Camp David: Palestinian authority over the West Bank and Gaz, defined as a
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“single tonitorial unit” under Oslo. Tn essence, and very probably in name, this
meant a Palestinian state. T wasn'L opposed to thal in principle. if it was in return
far a full and final peace. But the Oslo process meant that we would be handing
buck land, andl control aver security, m an ever-larer portion of wrmitary before
we'd reached any so-called permancnl-status agreement. In fact, before we even
knew whether that would prove possible. It wasn't “land for peace.” It was land
for the promise. or maybe only the hope, of peace. It was the same problem
Yitzhak liad faced over the Americans” misuse of our “pocket deposit™ ou the
Golan. [ realized that, having come this far with Oslo, neither he nor the
government was likely to back away from approving the Gaza-Jericho accord,
But he did say he thought the points 1d raised were important, which | took as
meaning he was comfortable with my raising it with the cabinet.
1 spoke near the end of the four-hour cabinet meeting to ratify the Gaza-
Jericho plan. The ministers seemed alleative as 1 can theough the security
concerns I'd raised with Rabin, even nodding when I compared the agreement's
security provisions to “a piece of Swiss cheese, only with more holes.” Bur then
sari thi 1 wisnied 10 sy a few words which | recognized were beyond my
responsibility as chief of stall. “I'm speaking just as an aracli citizen” [ told
the cabinet, “and as a former head of military intelligence.” Referring to specific
provisions m Oslo, and in the Camp David framewark agreed by Begin and
Sadat 15 years carlicr, | said it was important for ministers to realize thal, even
though permanent-staus issues were vet to be resolved. “vou will be taking us
nearly the whole way toward creating a Palestinian state, based on the
internationally accepted reading of Camp David ™ The reaction lo my comments
was a mix of defensiveness and hostility. In the lawer camp were ministers from
Rabin’s left-wing: coalition partners, Meretz, who seemed especially angry
when 1 quoted from Camp David. The Prime Minister motioned them for cam,
“Ehud had a responsibility to talk about secucity questions, and we had a
responsibility to listen. As for his additional remarks, they are not a surprise to
me,” he said, “He made these poms to me, und 1 said he could repeat them here,
Tuis right that he should caise them.” Tle said there was oo need for ministers lo
agree with me. but that ic was proper that the points 1'd raised should be heard
Many clearly didnt agree with me, ar simply believed the Gaza-Jericho
agreement still had to be ratified. which it was. But my remarks did lay the
groundwork for my objection to the nex, more far-reaching stage in the Oslo
process barely a year later, By then, [ was no longer chief of staff. 1 was a
member of Rubin’s cabinel.
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«ss
Tt was still my responsibility ta ensure that Gaza-Jericho was implemented.
and that the initial withdawals and redeploymeats went head smoothly. And
they did. But [also was soon playing a part in a renewed effort by Rabin to use
the momentim of Osto to achieve peace tyreements with onr other Arby
aciglibocs: the Syrians, although he know that would be wugh, and fivst he
Jordanians. 1 would always have had some role, by virtue of the need for a chief
of staff to weigh in on security issues. But as Yitzhak had done from the start.
hie involved me and others in his inner political circle in wider discussions on
the whole range of negotiating issues. Especially after Oslo, he seemed
determined to keep Peres’s role to an absolute minimum.
No pesce talks ure ever completely staighiforward, but the process with
Jordan was very close to that. The main issues va the Jordanian side involved
ensuring a proper share of scarce water supplies; and dealing with Israsl’s dic
Jaci conirol of u fairly lerge es wear the southem end of our border. A
number of kibbutzim and moshavim were farming the land there. But oder the
post-1948 armistice, it had been allocated to Jordan. Istael's priorities were ©
put in place a fully open relationship of peace and cooperation, and 10 gel
assurances Juedan would not allow its territory to he used by Palestinian groups
to launch terror attacks.
Twas suck by how much more easily compromises can be found it you
truly trnst the party on the other side. From my earlier meeting with Hussein in
England, before the Gulf War, 1d been impressed by the king's thought and
measured, yet warm and open, demeanor. That. in itself, inspired trust. But ever
since 1967, even in limes of high tension, [smecl and Jordin had kept open sceret
lines of contmunication. and both sides had peaecally demonstrated a shared
desire, and ability, to seer clear of conflict. The main trade-off in the search for
ia Torna pence wimed out lo be not to diTieull, We agreed To ensure water
provision, and lo accept Jordanian sovercignly over the 1949 armistice ave, in
return for which the king allowed the Israelis who bad been working the land to
stay in place as lessees, On fhe final Wednesday of October 1994, near our
border crossing in the Arava desert, | watched as Rabin, King Hussein, and
President Clinton formally seal the full “Treaty of Peace Between the State of
Israel and the Hashentite Kingdom of Jordin.”
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Sycia was always going Lo be harder. But Rabin had moved past his anger
aver the “pocket deposit”, and we began a new effort via the Americans. Our
aim was to Tay out a comprehensive, staged proposal to trade nearly the entire
Golin for peace. With Rabin, lan Rabinovich and the rest of the team, we
put together a fanework limitig Syria's military prescace oa the eights, We
envisaged phasing out the restrictions as Syria took steps toward the kind of
peace which iad proved possible with Ligypl and Jordan. But indirect exchanges
in the autumn of 1994 produced litle progress. tn December, Rabin proposed to
the Americans that | meet with a Syrian representative, and President Assad
agreed. Later that month, 1 was sent to Washington for talks with Syria’s
anbussedor, Walid Muallom. With the Americans’ Mideast envoy, Dennis
Ross. as host, we met in Blair louse across the street from the White Iouse.
[began by explaining the security provisions we envisaged for the Golan,
which included early-warning provisions. force limitations and otier means of
safeguarding Tsrael against any surprise attack. Muallen's response was
formulaic. almost icy. with no indication he was ready to discuss any of the
specifics, much less offer wus of his own. Bul then Demns led us out mio the
garden, where the atmosphese. if sadly not the weather, was a bit warmer. [told
Ambassador Muallem 1 believed Israel's issues with Syria ought to be
resolvable. Both sides understood the broad terms of an eventual pice. But we
needed a context of truss in which tw negotiate. President Assad, and we as well,
were always going to be reluctant formally to commit ourselves to a position
until each side was he satisfied that the other sule widersiood its core needs.
Plitically. both sides also feed constraints. “in formal mcctings, a record is
taken and negotiators have to explain and justify every last word back home. T
said. “1 think our negotiators can set further in conversations like the one we're
having now.” Though Muallem nodded agreement, he did not expheitly say he
believed that informal exchanges were the way forwacd. Still, he did obviously
pass back a broadly positive message to Damascus. Before the Blair House
discussion, our understanding had been there would probably be u kind of
micros arrangement for a follow-up meeting: between onr ambassador in
Washington, ltamar Rabinovich, and a high-ranking army officer from the
Syrian side. Instead, we received word that Assad wanted me to meet directly
with General Hint Shihiabi, who was not only my comierpar as Syrian chicl-
of-statf bur Assad's oldest and closest political ally and the effective number-
two mam in the régime.
General Shihaba and 1 met over a period of two days at Blair House. He had
greater authority, and thus a greater sense of self assurance, than the
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ambassador. But not foe the last time in negotiations with Syria. any real
progress was blocked by an apparent combination of misunderstanding and
‘miscommunication. The discussions were lively. Shihab had served as Syria’s
Hisison officer with the UN force sel np ulong the cease in afier the 1948
wer. “Go cheek with the UN.” he said at our first meeting. “You'll see almost
all the exchanges of fire in the late 1950s were provoked by Israel. "I did't
sespond dircely. though | did note it was the Syrians who had tried to divert
water from the Jordan River in the carly fities, “You did it first” he retorted.
So it continued, Only Tater did we leam that while Muallem had sent back a
generally encouraging impression from our garden talks, and his conclusion that
Lorne was weady for substantive talks, he liad neglected wo convey ous
expectation that any early progress would occur in faférmal exchanges. The
result was probably to raise General Shihabi's expectations, which made him
seluetant 10 show any real engagement. Aller a phone call with Rabin afler our
fist day of talks, T became equally cautious. Tle agreed that we wanted tw avoid
a repeat of our experience with the Golan “deposit”, We did not want to put
concessions on the recard before we gat an indication that the Syrians were
genuinely ready for peace talks.
Still, the fact that we'd established the precedent of a “chief-of staff
channel” was a step forward, My successor is ramaikal, Amnon Lipkin, would
meet again with Shihabi in carly 1995.
PE
Twas confident Amnon was inheriting an army siconge, better prepared and
better equipped than at any time since the Six-Day War. We also had peace
freaties not only with Fiypl, bl now Jowdm, und none of the sibstantive issues
with the Sycians seemed insumouatable.
But the main security challenges were the unconventional ones. In the long
fermi resurgent Iraq. and very likely Iran, might make strides towards welling
aelear weapons. ‘There was every sigu thal Uizhollah in Lebanon; and Lamas,
Islamic Jihad and their supporters in Gaza and the West Bank. would escalate
violence und terror, As the negotiations with Jordan were entering their Final
phase in early October, a further Hanas attack — this one, a kiduapping — hed
brought home that tareat. On Sunday, October 9. Hamas men dressed as
Onthoduos Jews abducted an ody soldier named Nabshon Wachsman near
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Lod. Two days later, Iscacli television received a videotape showing the 19-
year-old, hands and feet bound, pleading for bis life in retuen for the release of
the founder of Hamas, whom we had amested and jailed in 1989, “The group
from Hamas Kidmapped me, he said “They ure demmding the wekesse of
Shieikh Ahmed Yassin and another 200 people ftom Iscaeli prison. IT their
demands are not met. they will execute me on Friday at & pm.”
As s00n as we got word he was missing, | spoke lo Rabin, Since we ssumed
he was being held in Gaza, 1 ordered a unit from Sayerel Matkal 1o head south
and co-ordinate efforts to locate him with the Shin Bet and the southern
commun. But it eradunlly beeume clear he might be much closer to where he'd
been seized. The Sin Bet got # description of the kidusppers” ca, and found it
was a rental that had been picked up and returaed in east Jerusalem. They
tracked down the man wha rented it, A little before dawn the moming of
October 14. barely 12 bows before the [Tamas deadline, Shin Bel establisled
that Wachsman was being held in a village on the road w Ramallah, north of
Jerusalem, in a house owned by a Palestinian who was living abroad
The hostage soldice’s ordeal was made even worse by fhe faet his mother,
Lister, was a Holocaust survivor, born in a displaced-persons camp in Germany
at the end of the war. Rabin had been ready to approve a rescue attempt from
the outset, assuming we could locate Wachsmun and come up with « plan that
wight work. But as with Entebbe, hie said that it we couldn’t be reasonably
confident of success. we would negotiate. Now that we knew where
Waschsman was being held, [ordered Shaul Mofiz, the commander with
responsibility for The West Bank, to prepare for a possible rescue,
Before poing to brief Rabin, | aranged for another commando unit 1 begin
visible preparations for an operation in Gaza, in an ettort to reassure Hamas we
shill beheved he was bem held there. Assnming we could retin the clement off
surprise, there were several things working in our favor. The house wees
relatively isalated. It was in an area where Israel, not the incipient Palestinian
anthontics, still had control. And Sayeret Matkal had expertise und experience
iu this hind of mission. Still. no plan could be foolproot. | old Rabin that the
fact ITamas was holding a single hostage meant that if our assault teams were
delayed for any reason at all, the kindappers mught kill him before we got in,
Bul | said we had 1o weigh the risks of nos acting. We were no longer Irying fo
find a missing soldier. We knew where he was. We had a unit ready. Unless
Hamas relented. he was facing death within hours. In those circumstances, the
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precedent of doing nothing would, in my view. be very serious. T recommended
that he approve the opecation. and Rabin agreed.
[attended the final briefing shortly afterwards. [ was impressed by the
determined faces of the men in the two sayerel teams, One of the officers was
23-year-old Nir Puraz, whom [ remembered from operational briefings in the
kavya on previous sayeret missions. Wachsman was being held in a room on the
first floor. The commandos would simultancously detonate explosives on three
doars: at the front, on the side, and a third one keading through a kitchen w the
100m where the kidnappers had their hostage. The attack began fifteen minutes
before fhe Humas deadline, The explosive charges went off, but only the ane in
the front blew open the door. Poraz and bis team rushed in, but one of the
Lidnappers opened fire, killing him and wounding six others. The other team
had by now made it ta the first floor, But despite firing at the metal lock, they
had trouble getting the door tw open. By the time they got in, Wachsman had
been killed, shot in the neck and chest.
Iwas in the command post a few hundred yards away. I called Rabin and
then went lo sce hin in the fire. The head of personel for the smmy had gone
10 sec the Wachsman (amily and break the news 10 them. Now, we had to ell
the country. Rabin and I appeared on television together. Rabin insisted
wrongly on sayiiz he bore full respansibifity, What had gone wrang, 1 had
tried fo impress on him, was not the decision 10 aucmpt the wesene. It was the
rescue itself. That was not his responsibility. It was mine.
The next day, | visited Wachsman®s parents, and tried fo convey how painful
the failed rescue was 10 Te, Rabin und every onc cle involved. [was mspired
and humbled by their response. lis father had told a reporter he wanted to
convey his condolences to the parents of Nir Paraz, “This added loss has shaken
me terribly,” he sail. He fold me he also believed that the Prime Minister had
approved the rescue using his best judgement on the information thet bie had
available. | spent time separately speaking to Mrs Wachsman. | tried to explain
flush wn Fhting an enemy like Hismss, peopks who not just threaten 1o kill but
had proven thicy had no hesitation in doing so. U'd lL tere was nu choice but to
attenipt the rescue. T admitted we'd known the risks. But we'd wied to do the
might thing, both for the country ind her son | think she understood, though 1
knew that nothing could aller the tenible saduess of her loss. The pain would
take years to heal. Some part of it never would. Still, T felt it was important she
and her husband know that we. toa, felt their loss. For years afterwards. Navi
and T continued to visit them.
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By then, however, T was no longer chief of stall. Tn fact, barely ten weeks
after the kidnapping. T handed over to Amnon Lipkin. T let the kirya proud of
all 1 had sought fo accomplish during my 36 years in uniform, {also realized
there had also been Grilues and setbacks, none more pain fly fresh than ou
inability 10 rescue Nahshon Wachsnian. Bul © wes about to find that the area of
Israeli life which I now chose to enter — national politics — could be a batdefield
as well. And hat when trouble hit, even your allies sometimes ducked for cover.
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Chapter Seventeen
[Lwas an ambush. It came in Tuly 1995, six months afier I'd lef the army
and only days before 1 was expected to named as Interior Minister in Yitzhak
Rabin’s goverament. 1 he effect, and clearly the intention, was to thicaten my
political career before it had even besun by reviving, and lying about, the
tragic training accident at the Negev army base of Tze"elim, during our
prepirtions for the operation aguins! Saddam Husscin,
When the “story” broke, [was neurly Give thousand miles away. | wits
accompanying Navas brother, Doron Cohen. on a business trip he was making
fo China and savormg my last few divs as a private eitizen between my three
decades of militacy service and my entry into politics. I'd got a bial of the storm
that was about to engulf me a few days before we left for the Far Cast. It was a
letter fram a reparter at Yeidol Achronol, Israel's largest-selling newspaper,
with a list of questions about ‘Tzi"chm. The thrust of the questions mde elewr
the case Yediot seemed intent on building: that after the live missile strike
which killed the Sayeret Matkal men, | had abandoned the injured and
immediately “Ned 16 Tel Aviv. 1 probably should bisve answered the letter, But
Tassuned even rudimentary checks would reveal the story to be false. I'd had
similar questions from a TV journalist a fes months earlier. 1 did phone him
back. 1 explimed the ue details of whit had appened. 1 suggested he talk to
atbiers who were there, like Amnon Lipkin, the curcent chief of staf and my
former deputy, to confirm my account. The story was dropped.
But ¥euiot evidently decided not to let the facts get in the way of the
“exclusive” il vm in its weekend edition on July 7. Gnder a baer headline — un
undeniably clever Hebrew pun. End Barut, “hud Ran Away” - it accused
me of having stood by, paralyzed with shock, when the missiles struck and then,
us other officers tended lo the wounded, msted away by helicopler.
Doron and T were having dinner in Beijing when Nava phoned. She'd just
seen the newspaper story, and read it to me. I'd never been angrier. As best |
could work out, it hud been concocted from a patchwork of accounts kong after
the fact. To the extent the notion of my “fleeing” had been raised. T could only
imagine that Yedior's “sources” had misunderstood the arrival of the first
medical helicopter, when the pilot was unable to see us and flew on before
setucning a couple of minutes later. Bul in every single detail about my activns
after fhe tragedy occurred, it was a pure and simple lie.
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Twas not just angry, but frustrated at my inability to rebut the story in
person. Doron and | immediately made arrangements 1o vetwen w Israel early,
which, since there was no direct wir connection, meant finding the first flight out
ttnongh London. But before we lef, Nava phoned agin, almost spullering in
Tuey. She wld me that she'd just ceeeived a call (rom Aliza Gocen, Rabin's
media spokesperson. “Does [hud know about the Yedior story?” she'd asked.
When Nava said yes, Aliza told ber: “ILis important that Lhud knows thal we
are nol aiug 10 get involved in getting hin out of this”
Weicome to politics, 1 thought. Rabin knew that the story was untrue. I'd still
been in T7¢ elim when 1°d phoned im about what had happened. He knew 1d
remained there to order in the medical helicapiers and wnange for the
evacuation of the wounded before fewening to brief him. Sill. he did not say a
single word in public nar, for that matter, speak to me as the controversy
continued 10 gather force.
During our stopover in London, | sal with Doron and talked through how wo
get my voice heard. | relephoned Yoni Karen, the officer who'd been my top
aide m the kirva andl whom Pd asked 10 work for me in the Inferior Ministry,
assuming | now actually got there. 1 told him to phone Anion Lipkin and say
that 1 had expected him to answer the fabrications. Not only had he and [ been
ut the site of tragedy together, We'd Jeff together, on the same helicopter,
Ammon did now issuc 3 statement saying that he knew Yedior's allegations were
wrong. But the story had been allowed to stand for too long. TTis rebuttal caused
barely a ripple.
As red the latest Israeli newspapers before himding in Tel Aviv, | found
that at least I wasn’t totally on my own. Reporters had been phoning politicians
far comment, Most responded like weathervanes, going with the prevailing
wind, which was gusting aginst me. Bul three Knessel members dissented. One
was Ori Or, a friend even before we'd both gone into the army, and who had
now joined Labor, The other two were leading members of Likud: Dan Meridor
and Benny Rein, Memichem Bewn's son, All three siid they were sure the
allegations were false. Did they know the details abou the accident, they were
asked. No, they replied. they didn’t need to. They knew ime.
Now all [ had to do wus convinee fhe rest of the country. It had been nearly a
week since the Yedion's “expose”. 11 wis Yoni Koren who pissed on a request
from Channel | television, our equivalent of the BBC. They were proposing that
Lipps with Nissin Mishal, the san sho had fnviewed me 10 years eatin,
at the urging of Rabin's political aide. on my ficst TV appeacance. lor Mishal,
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the interview would be a journalistic coup. For me, il was a isk. ITe was a
[famously eombative questioner, a bit like Sam Donaldson at While louse
briefings, or Jeremy Paxman and Jahn Humphreys in Britain,
On the night of July 13, 1 drove to the television studio m Tel Aviv. Mishal
confronted me with Yedion's version of events. | was angry, and showed it.
“This report was not some night editor's mishap,” [ said. “It was authorized by
the highest levels of a mass-cireulation newspaper which 1s pawsr-drunk,
camupled by power, and manipulative. The so-called “story” was an amateusish
and distorted depiction of a chief-of-staft who sees wounded soldiers, turns his
back, deserts them and flies away, That is an evil, vain falsehood.” As Mishul
pressed me whout the allegation hat 1 had fled, | cited, by sume, olher officers
who had been there with me and had confirmed precisely the opposite. T had lel
Tzeelim, akong with Amnon |ipkin, a full $0 modes after the missiles struck,
said. And only after the helicopters had artived. the injuies had been treated
and the choppers were evacuating the wounded. “A chicl of stalls job is not lo
rear the wounded. when others are daing thar already,” I added. My
sespomsibilily wis “Io keep my head, and ensure a safc snd speedy medical
evacuation” Thal was what I'd dove. “['ve given years of my life lo serving this
country,” I said. “I have been shot ac. I have shot men dead from as close as I
20 10 you now. How did the hand thal wrole thes: things agaist me nou
wemble?”
Tt was certainly high drama. But it was not an act. The way that I'd gone
after Yediol prompted some pundits to suggest my skin was toa thin, One
commentator even said [was obviously nol suited 1 polities. Yeu what matiered
Most 10 me was what the rest of Tssael felt: people who were aol reporters or
editors, commentators or politicians. Opinion polls the day afterwards showed
thst something like 80 percent of traclis believed what 1°d said. § think this was
only partly due to the details of the argument T made. When you're under such
close, direct scrutiny. I'm sure viewers have an innate sense of whether what
they arc hearing 1s the uth,
Almost as soon as I'd got hone from the interview, the phone rang, [L was
someone who. of course. already knew it was the truth: Yitzhak Rabin. “Thud,”
he said, “you did well, Lets move forward,”
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Tater worked out why he'd wanted to steer clear of the whole thing. Yedior
had been planning the story for mouths. IL had been ready to go with it earlier,
when it was assumed [ would be joining the government as early as April. The
editors had hele it To coineide with my anival as a minisier. Tht, | suppose,
wes simply what newspapees did. Bul it turaed out that at least two influential
Labor politicians had played a parc in steering ¥ecdior coward the story, and
urging the newspaper Lo fun with it: Lain Ramon, a veteran party figure and
cabinel minister. though he'd quit the government the year belore over the
party's failure to follow through on health-policy reform; and Shimon Shevess,
one of Rabin’s top advisers. Raman would later say that they hadn't wanted to
“Rill Barak” a9 a new minister. “Just fire sone bullets at this legs, so hell cates
politics with a limp.” It was a way of cutting me down fo size.
1 suppose thar was understandable. [was by no means the only former
general Lo enter Iscaeli politics. Other chiefs-of-stalf had gone va to play
promincal soles in government: Dayan, Mott Gur and, of couse. Rabin. Bul
the fact that I was going directly into the cabinet. and so soon after leaving the
my. was seen hy the smal media anes umber of Labor policies — asa
reflection of my close relationship with Rabin. Some commentators had even
been speculating I might eventually be a candidate to succeed him as party
leader and Prime Minister.
11 was rue that Rabin had persoually urged me to juin he government,
starting with a lighthearted remark oaly days after I'd ended my term as chief of
staff, It was ata firewall arganized by my staff. The event began with film chps
from my years in lhe wriny, ind a series of entertaining cameos rom men 1d
served with and led. Rabin spoke at the end. Tle said he'd recently besa on an
official visit to South Korea. He'd met the president. who told him he was the
first Korean leader nol to have been an anny general. Rubin sid he'd replied
that he was the first Tsracli Prime Mioister who was a general. Thea. smiling
and looking straight at me. he added: “Nit, Ehud?"
1 did want fo in bis government. But [had been in the army since the ae
af seventeen and was now in my carly fillies. Vor my family’s sake, 83 well as
my own, Thad figured on taking 2 year or twa to explore other things. Two
optians appealed to me especially. One wis business. My brother-melaw, in
addition to having successful iw practice, was involved in a number of
business ventures. and we'd discussed aseas we might jointly explore. But T had
also received offers from think tanks in the United States.
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Despite Rabin’s quip about ex-generals and Prime Ministers, was sucprised
when, a couple of days later, he asked me wo come see hin Ile smiled as 1
entered his office. Then he said: “Fhud, now that you are out of uniform, 1
would be whl tw see you come ino polities, Together with us, and be s member
of the government.” Te said he'd discussed it with Peres. “It's a joint
invitation.” Though I did, of course, say yes, I also told him [ was planning to
take some time ofT, probably at fist with a think tank in the US. Though [
wasn’ exactly sure about the legal provisions for officers leaving the amy, |
reminded him that there was a set period of time during which they could not
enter palitics, He replied. a bit enigmatically, that he would be sending an
“operative” w talk 1 me farther about he Liming.
The operative was Giora Liny. a uniquely important (igure in Labor because
he was trusted both by Rabin and Peres, | liked him immediately, Throughout
my years in politics, IT would come to ely on him foe his experience, good
Rumor and good judgement. Tle did know about the rules for former acy
peaple going ino politics: there was a 100-day moratorium. “Rabin wants vou
inmedintely,” he sand. “1 guess well el him that “mmediaicly” wall have Lo
mean sometime in April.” In fact, [ told Giora that ['d hoped it would be much
longer. So we agreed tha in order to give me at least a few months in the US,
he'd tell Rabin he could gel m touch at any tine from March 1996 wath his
invitation to join the cabinet. As soon as le did 50, | would formally cut my ties
with thie military. meaning I could join the government in the summer.
Nava, the girls and [ left for Washington in January. I joined the Center for
Strategic and Iniernational Studies ad was given the delight fully overwronght
title of Distinguished Visiting Statesman and Senior Associate. The reason the
CSIS had invited me was to write and speak on the Middle East. About two
months in, | presented # paper. | began by welcoming the constellation of
changes which seemed to offer at Least an apportunity Coc stability, seowsity and
peace: the unravelling of the Soviet Union; the Oslo Agreement; the peace
treaty with Jordan amd the continuing talks with the Synans. As long as we had
partners committed Lo reaching an agreement, | believed Israel would be ceady
“to consider major compromise and to take upon ourselves significant
calculated risks.” But with a frunkness which seems surprising even to me in
serospect, [ delivered much the same message as | had 10 ministers on the
potential dangers inherent in the Oslo process as we moved forward.
I pointed out that Arafat had made no move ta rein in groups like Hamas.
and that more Israelis had actually been killed by tecror since Oslo than in the
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year before. “We signed a three-phase contract with Arafat” [ said. “Try w
imagine ane of you selling me three pieces of property. [11 fail to pay for the
first one on time, you might not immediately cancel the contract, You might
even bie ready 10 help me collee! the necessary money. Bul you would never
proceed w deliver the second property before 1 paid for the first anc, unless you
were a fool.” [also warned of longer-term dangers: “terrorism. radical Islamic
fundamentalism, the proliferation of surface-lo-surlice missiles aud weapons of
mass destruction. and threats to the long-tevm stability of the more pragmatic
Arab regimes.” 1 singled out Iran, because it was determined to export its brand
of fundamentalism Islam, spensor terror and develop a nuclear weapon.
Tulse sceampnicd CSIS colleagues on speaking cngagements 1 other
American ilies. [ was about to board a flight 10 Seattle in April when 1 gota
messige sayy Rabin wanted to talk ta me, After we took off, | used the an-
board phone facility and, with a swipe ul a credit card, was soon on the line lo
the Prime Minister. Since the exchange was io [ebrew, Pm fairly swe anyone
overhearing me had no idea what we were talking about. “I need You to come
biuck is soon as possible,” Rabin said. | uly knew, from CGiora, that he was
anxious Lo find a long-term replacement as Minister of Taterior. The leading
light in the Sephardi religious party Shas, Arye Deri, had had to leave the post
under allegations of bibe-tiking. A fier Rabm bid ken on the port foha himself
four 18 months, he had placed Labor's Uzi Baran there, but ouly as a
temporary arrangement. I dida’t feel T could refuse outright, Buc I reminded him
that under army rules. “as soon as possible” still meant another 100 days. And
ideally, [said [wanted to finish the best part of & year in Washington. | asked
whether it would be possible to join the cabinet in the middle of November
instead. “What difference will a few more months make?"
Rabin said he needed me naw, and that mid-November would be too late.
“Thu. in politics, you can never predict what will happen by then.” Neithee of
us could have known how terribly prophetic his words would mur out fo be.
owe
Iwas not only new to cabinet politics. 1 wasn't even a member of the
Knessel. Bul in addition wo naming me as head of a major minisiry — in charge
of everything from citizenship and immigration to planning, zoning. and the
funding of local goverment — Rabin made me a member of his “inner cabinet”
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an security and foceign affairs. Barely three weeks after 1 joined the
goverament, we had to decide on the most important agreement with the
Palestinians since Oslo. Dubbed Oslo 1, it involved a major transfer of
anthony sd pearitory. The process wonld begin with our pulling oul fom more
than a quarter of the West Bank, including the major Palestinian towns and
some 430 smaller towns and villages. After that, there would be three further
sedeployent phases, at six-month intervals, in so-called “Area C” of the West
Bank - a mix of unpopulated land, setclements and a number of points we'd
desigmated as strategically important. Under Oslo, and its parent agreement
Camp David, it was all part of ensuring the Palestinians could exercise their
“legitimate rights” in the “single terrilorial entity” of the West Bank and Gaza —
in other words, a path to statehood. But oaly by the time the final three phases
of redeployment were complete were we required to begin the “permanent-
status” talks on issues like land ind borders, Itachi seulement, the future of
Terusalem: the real core of a peace agreement
By the time I joined the discussions on Oslo II in August 1995, the main
points hal already heen sured. Ralyin was in favor, as were vinually all the
cabinet ministers. Whatever scant influence | might exercise would have to
come at the decisive cabinet meeting, set for August 13. From the objections I'd
saised to The Gaza-ericho deal as chief of stall, Rabin knew I'd be concerned
not only to ensure the security proisions avoided potential misunderstanding
on the ground. but about the longer-term implications. especially since the scale
of the Iscaeli withdrawals was much larger his time. In fact, the agreement
could be interpreted as requiring us to cede Paketinian control over virtually all
of Gaza and West Bank by the end of the third redeployment phase ~quite
possibly before talks on the permanent-status questions had even hcg.
[went to see Rabin a few days before fhe cabinet vate, | explained why |
thought the ageeement was flawed. T argued we should cither delay some of our
redeployments or bring the permanent-status negotiations forward. Ile listened
tome. He barely spoke. He knew Ud be against Oslo 11, and knew the seasons
why. Bul we both knew something else: having been brought into government
by Rabin, I would be expected, ona vote of this importance, to be in his comer.
The cabinet vote wasn't happening in a political vacuum. Likud's defeat in
1992 had meant the end of Yitzhak Stiamiv’s leadership. | he new Likud leader
was the former Sayeret Matkal officer with whom I'd shared a newspaper cover
in 1986 predicting that he and | would end up facing each other ut the ballot
box: Bibi Netanyahu. Positioning himself as the fresh young face of Isracli
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polities and vowing ww defeat Labor, Bibi had seized on Oslo 11 10 accuse Rabin
of “surrendering” w Arafat, and by extension to lamas terrorism.
[ couldn't sleep the night before the cabinet mesting. I had no desire to be
disloyal ta Yitzhak, 1 certainly didn’t want to ad to the pressures an him, much
less add further impetus 1o Bibi's rhetorical vuslaughts. But the more | thought
of it, the less I could see the point of entering politics if [ wasn’t going to vote
with my conscience, The cabinet meeting listed for hours. [1 was near the end
tht 1 spoke, calmly and in detail, boul my reservations. Many of fhe ministers
seemed barely to be listening. They'd long since made up their minds. But when
I'd finished, two ministers passed me notes, Bath sad fhe same thing: Ehud,
don’t do anything crazy. Don’t vole against it. So 1 didn’t. But J couldnt vous
for it either. T abstained.
Rabin was bitterly upset. He didn’t tell me directly. Bur when the meeting
broke up, his longtime political wide, Eitan Haber, took me aside 10 tell me how
that what I'd dove was “tersible™. Givea Liny came to see sue the next day, afer
Rabin had phoned him in a mix of anger and disbelief. “What fs this,” he'd
asked iors, “The first big vol, and Bark abyiins™ 1 wasn't until a (ow
weeks later that Rabin and | spoke alone, over a beer in his office. He dida’t
raise the question of the vote. So 1 did. “Yitzhak, I understand it’s caused you
pain,” suid. “But | think vou understand | was acting out of what is genuinely
my belief aud my position.” {asked him why, unlike the other ministers, he
hadn't passed me a note before we'd cast our votes. “Thud.” he said, “T never
Write requests ar orders on how to vate. Ministers must vote according fo ther
conscience.” He didn’t mean what I’d done was right. He meant my conscience
should have old me. given Lhe importance of the issue, 10 vole yes.
The tension between us did ease somewhat in the weeks ahead. But the
tension aroused us eseabited aller the cabinet vole, Opmion polls showed the
country split down the middle. Seulement leaders and extremist rabbis launched
a campaign against the legitimacy of the government, and of Rabin as Prime.
Minister, Ruzht-wing religious leaders issued a decree rejecting the planed
sedeployments ou the West Bak — “the evacuation of bases aud their ransfer to
the Gentiles” — as biblically prohibited. A new group called Zu Aizen
orgamzed a campaign of evil disobedience to try to bring the government
down.
The sheer venom bit home during a pair of events [attended with Rabin, to
ward of Ure status of “ily” w lowns which bid crossed the required threstiold
iin population aud ceonomiic activity. By tradition, this was macked by a
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ceremony with both the Interior Minister and the Prime Minister present. The
first was in Ofakim, near where I'd worked in the fields with Yigal Garber in
the 19505, Shartly ater we arrived, a group of profestors started shouting at
Rabin. amvac they yelled “muniac”. Hoged: tranor. Al lhe second even, near
ite, busloads of protestors from right-wing religious schools shouted abuse at
Rabin when he rose to speak
As the Knesset vote on Oslo 1 approached, the hatred reached new fevels.
The day bofire, thousands of protesters packed into Jerusalem's Zion Square.
Some shouted “Death to Rabin!" Others burned pictures of him, or passed out
photos of him dressed in an Arab keffiyeh, or even a Nazi uniform, Ribs had
publicly declised thet opposition to the agreement must versio within the
bounds of the law. Yet as he addressed the baying mob fiom a hotel balcony, he
uttered not a single ward of reproach, In fact, be called Rubin's government
“illegitimate”, because it relied in part on the votes of Iscacli Arab Knesset
members.
The day of the vote, the mob descended on the Knesset. Rabin had called a
goverment meeting beforehand. When | got there. the crowd was so large (hal
Uveass taken in through special sceurity entrance away from the front of the
building. But the Housing: Minister. Binyamin Ben-Eliezer, arrived late and
tried fo drive through the mam gute, Protestors pounded furiously on bis cur and
ried 10 break the windows. Our mecting had alicady begun when he airived. He
had spent nearly as long as T had in the army, but he was shaken. Interrupting
Rabin, he banized his fist on the table, “I"ve been on battlefields.” he said. “ve
heen shot at. 1 know how fo read uw situation. {saw their Faces. 1s insane! 11 is
beyond anything rational. this kind of hated.” Pounding the table again, he
shouted: “I warn you. It will end with a murder! It will end with a murder!”
Rain motiomed for calm. He, woo, wis concemed by the rhetorical violence,
even more so now thal it was becoming physical violence. But as he would tell
an interviewer a few weeks later, lie simply didn’t believe that “a Jew will kill 2
Jew.” Nor. at thal pom, dict 1.
Afler the Knesset vote, which passed by a margin of 61 1 59, plans got
underway for a rally in defense of the peace process. and against the tide of
hatred on the right. It was the idea of two people: Shloma Labia, a 1.ikud mayor
al Tel Aviv who now backed Oslo, and a French Jewish businessman wamied
Jean Frydman, a friend of Shimon Peres whom I had got to know and like. But
in several of the carly planning discussions m which 1 was involved, Rabm was
against the rally, which was to be held in the huge Kings of Tseael Square in the
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heart of Tel Aviv. Ile was worried that not enough peopk: would show up. and
that those who did would be [rom the left: Merete, not Labor, people who would
be there mainly to criticize him for not going far, or quickly, enough in pulling
out of the West Bunk.
In the end, he was persuaded it should go abicad. In fact, by the time the date
approached Saturday evening, November 4 he seemed to be feeling more
energized, and upbeat. 1 wouldn't be there, because [was going to New York as
the government's representative wl a fundvaising dinner al same night for the
Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial. A few hours betore leaving, however. I met
with Rubin, We'd found a 15-minute window in his schedule, but we ended wp
talking for an hour. He said he knew that, in some ways, the difficuliics
surrounding the peace talks were likely i gel worse. Tamas would not abandon
temor. The kind of intolerance we were seeing from fhe right wing was not
going 10 go away. Tle was fucious at Bibi, who in his view was hypoeiitically
going through the motions of calling for restaint and pretending Lo be unaware
that the mobs were full of Likud voters. “They re his people.” he said, “and he
knows it.”
But he was relishing the idea of taking on Bibi in the next election, duc in
about a year's time. Though Rabin was trailing in the polls, he was confident of
turnings that around ene the camprign began, >The main thing is that the party
isn’t focused. We have 10 gel serious shout preparing,” he said. He was worried
about the effect of inevitable tensions between his supporters and Peres’s over
how ta rum fhe campaign, “Bring hack Haim Raman,” [ sugested, 1 knew by
now [hat Haim had helped orchestrate the false story which Yediot had van
about Teeelim. But T also realized he was a Labor heavyweight and that.
although he'd left the government, he remained personally close to Yitzhak
“Yes,” Yitzhak replied, nodding, sugsestimg that we talk through the ides in
detail whea Tceturaed fiom New York.
Iwas in my room at the Regency Ilotel. on New York's Upper Last Side,
when the phone rung on Saturday aflemoon, | was dimly aware that the Tel
Aviv rally had ecu going an back homie, but was more focused on preparing
my speech for the Yad Vashem event. “Ehud, Ehud!” It was Nava, her voice
barely imdenstandible through the sabs, “Rabin has been shot!”
PEE
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Danny Yatom called me a couple of minutes later. le said Rabin was still
alive. But fiom the details he gave me, T knew it would take a miracle for him to
pull through, “Three shats, from close range,” Danny said, “From an fsracti, a
Jew.” Like Rabin, like me 00 until this bad selually happened. it was something
Denny was struggling to believe. le said that he'd call me back when he knew
anything mote. But Thad the TV an in the room. Before he did, 1 watched Titan
Usher announce that Yitzhak Rabin was dead
Although [hadn't known it until Id arrived, Yossi Beilin was alsa in New
York, tor mestings and a speech of his own. Though he was a Peres protégé.
and 1 was seen as closer to Rabim, the two of us had become fends, We
inmmedintely made plans to ge the next flight home. But before leaving for the
airport, T phoned Leah Rabin. lowever inadequate T knew it would be in
helping her even begin to cope with the loss, 1 told her that my, and Navas,
thoughts were with bier. Thal Yitzhak s death would leave & tremendaus hole, in
all of us. in every single Israeli. “They shot him. she kept nuumuring. “They
shot him. They shot him. They shot hin." 1 called Peres, too. “Shimon, you
have i mormiznn on your shoulders.” 1 ssiel. “But your ask is fo cary on. All of
us will be with you, supporting, helping however we can.”
It was the saddest flight I'd ever taken. Yossi and [ barely spoke. Each of us
was deep in thought, 1 found myself lost in memories of Rabin from the very
first tine Pd met him, in the ssyeret, to that hast, long tall we'd bad in his office
a couple of days earlier. Tor some reason. T kept wondering whether, whea the
shots had been fired, he'd been turning to look behind him, 1t wis an
idiosynerasy he hud, whenever hie was leaving a meeting or an even! — even, as |
now recalled vividly. when the wo of us were Jeaving the muaicipal ceremony
in Ofakim. I was behind him as we left. “Ehud,” he said. turing back, “are you
there?” 11 was senseless detail. 1 wouldn't chinge anything. Bu 1 sill fell wom
up inside thinking about it.
After we landed at Ben-Gurion. [went with Nava to the Rabins” apartment
in Ramat Avy, There were hundreds of people outside, and nearly a hundred
crowded inside the Tat. Leal looked exhausted, her face ashen. “They shou
him,” she said over and over as Nava and T hugged her. “Three shots. In the
buck, Why?” [said there wis no sinc answer, but that with Yitzhuk’s death,
tse] seemed different, the world seemed dierent, and emplir. Before we lef,
we added our candles to the forest of Nickering memorial lights outside the
apartment block, Then, we drove the Kings of (sruel Square. Thousands of
people were huddled in small groups throughout the plaza, sitting around
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thickets of candles and chanting, almost prayerlike, anthems of mourming and of
peace
For reasons [ couldn't explain, 1 felt the need ta see the place, near fhe front
of the square, where Rabin bid been murdered, by 4 25-year-old Orthadox Jew
and settlement activist named Yigal Amis. Standing there with Nave, 1 felt even
more strongly what I'd told Leah by phone from Nes York after hearing
Yitzhak wis dead: his munfer would leave a huge hoe m me, in all Israclis.
He was an extraordinary mix of qualities: a brave officer, First in Lhe pre-siaie
Palmach and then the new Isracli army; a chief of statf and defense minister at
critical periods in our hustory. Shy, even at times ineertain or hesitant, und
naturally cations. Decisive, Loo, when he fol that bie, ad sacl, ceded to be:
whether on Entebbe, oe the prospect. with all its risks. of launching an operation
to kill Saddam Hussein. Humane, toa: ready to negotiate with terrorists to save
he lives of those they were planning to Mill, uoless he was confident our
soldiers could save them fisst. Underpinaing it all was a dedication w fighting
and defeating Isael's enemies. yet a mindfulness that the real victory, if and
when twas possible, would be renin peace with our niighbors. He and 1 bid
had differences over pactioular policies: leaving our troops in Lebanon. for
instance, or more recently the architecture of Oslo. But I never doubted that we
were ueky lo hive Yau leading rach on the inevitably faught rod 10 a
negotiated peace. | ever ceased 10 believe there was no politician more suited
to the role: that he would do everything he could to achieve it, yet would step
back if he saw that ie was putting Israel's security at isk.
On Sunday evening, Peres called i cabinet mevting in the Kirya. He said ous
task wes to continue what Rabin had begua. and that at Jeast for now he would
fill Rabin’s shoes not just as Prime Minister but Defense Minister as well. The
whole country stood still, shocked, mil the state funcrl two days afler the
assessination. Tt was attended by dozens of leaders from around the world. My
tole was to escort King Hussein and Queen Noor. Ou our drive into Jerusalem,
we passed the OI City walls. We were harcly 1 mile from the stone lemsce,
above the Western Wall of our ancient temple, where the golden Dome of the
Rock and the Al-Aqsa mosque stand. knew Iussein had been there as a bay
when his grandfather, King Abdullah, was shat and killed by a Palestinian amid
sumors hie was contemplating peace with Isracl. Now, Rabin had been
murdered, by an Tscaeli. “To me. ic’s like the closing of a circle,” Tlussein said.
“Those who are murdered because they are not extreme enough, Because they
look for nomaley, and peace.”
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Yitchak's mueder had acted like a kind lighting surike, freezing Israelis ina
mix of disgust over what had occurred and awareness of the dangers this brand
of hatred and extremism posed. 1 was concerned fhe moment would be allowed
To pass. My hope was [hal we could seize the opportunity To bring together ull
those Israclis — on Jefl and right, secular and Orthodox, Ashkenazi and Sephardi
— who were prepared to stand up against the fanaticism. the violent messianism.
af which Yigal Amir was just a past. | hat was the main reason | wanted Peres
10 call an carly cleetion. au issue that would be discussed, off and on, over the
next few months, [ felt the time was right to present the country with a choice:
not just between those for and against specific compromises being: contemplated
iin pursuit of peace, but between those who wanted a tolerant, funclioning
democracy and those who were ready to use demagoguery and violence to get
their way.
Peres's first onder of business was to pul in place a new cabinet, Ite did,
briclly, consider giving up the Defense Ministey and putting me there. Bul
instead, he made me Foreign Minister. Like Rabin before him. Shimon
stipulutcd that he, as Prime Minister, would relam wathority over the peace
negotiations. Still, with his agreement, [ was involved in all the discussions
around the peace talks, and in meeting many of the Arab leaders we'd have to
negotinte with i0we were 1 (md a lasting resolution of the Arab-lsrachi conflict.
Justa few weeks after the assassination, | represented Israel al a Liuro-
Mediterranean Partnership conference in Barcelona. Its only real diplomatic
work consisted of ironing out the wording of the communique. The real value
was in the corridors, and at the dinner lield au one of King Juan Carlos’s palatial
estates, and, for me, a first opportunity to meet not only Arab foreign ministers
but Yasir Arafat.
My first, brief encaunter with Arafut begun a bit embarrassingly, 1°d arrived
2 few minutes carly for the confecence dinar and was led into an impressive
Tall that was almost empty except for a wonderfully cared-for royal Steinway. [
sat down 10 play. Lost in the beauty of a Chapin sonata, | wis completely
unaware of PLO leader's approach behind me. A bit awkwardly, | rose to groet
him. I grasped his hand. “I¢'s a real pleasure to meet you,” said. “I must say I
have spent many years watching vou by other means.” He smiled. Our hosts
liad set aside time after dinner for the two of us Lo talk at greater keugth, with no
aides present. But my hope was to begin by establishing simple. human contact:
fo signal respect: to begin to create the conditions not to ty to kill Arafat bur, if
he shared the sume roa, 10 mike peace with him, “We camry great
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responsibility,” T said. “Both of our peoples have paid a heavy price. The time
Tas come to find a way ww solve this.”
In the halt hour we spent together later, [ could see that, physically, the Fatah
leader from Karamch was not just older. He had a frailty about him, His skin
seemed almost translucent in places. His hands shook slightly, with the carly
signs of Parkinson's. He spoke softly. But despite this ostensibly vulnerable
exterior, | could see how damting, and frustrating, he must be a negotiating
partner. Hemy Kissinger has described how Mao Use- Tang. rather thay engage
directly in discussion or debate, tended to wrap his remarks in parables. Without
stretching the parallel toa far, Arafat wus like that, While | tried to engage him
an how cach of iss might help cement the Oslo process, aud crsuse thal the
interim agreement indeed led to a full peace. he responded with stories, oe off-
topic remarks, which [ was left to umyrap and decipher.
He begin onr discussion by saying thirt now thal 1 wis Forenm Mimsier, he
was glad w meet me. Le said that he'd beard “reports” trom bis intelligence
people that when [ was chiet-of-staft. | had organized a kind of dissident band
of generals who were working tw tormedo The Osto sgreements. He compared
hig 1 the OAS. the military cabal in France that had opposed De Gaulle. |
could anly laugh. I told him 1d actually spent two months with OAS men years
earlier. in Mont | ouis, but that Isvael was different, Fven ut times of the
Toughest of disagreements, we were a family. An “lsuachi OAS” would never
work, even if T had been crazy enough to contemplate such a thing. Which. T
hastened to add, [ was not.
There was another idiosynierssy | encountered in Arafidl. He was constantly
“writing notes as we spoke. I didn’t mind that. But it did strike me as slightly
diluting the kind of frankness and openness 1 would find in most af the one-on-
one mectings | went an to have with Torin fesdens is Peres’s Forenm Minister
Maybe he did it just as a kind of aide-memvite. But certainly in later meetings |
had with him, it did have the effect to making me choose my words more
carefully, That, I behieved, reduced the prospect of exploring more ereatively
the boundaries of cach of our official positions. 11 also helped Arafat to argue, as
he did on more than one occasion. that Rabin. or Peres, or whatever Israeli
interlocutor he chose to name had promised him such and such. He always
implica this was based on his writien record, though he never produced wy
evidence to that effect. Ile also never seemed w have recorded anything that he
had promised [sraclis.
1 tied, with only partial success. Lo engage sume of the other Arab forcign
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ministers when we'd arcived in the banqueting hall. Tdid have a good talk with
Ceypl’s Ame Moussa, and the foreign ministers vf Morocco and Tunisia. When
{tried 10 start a conversation with Syria’s Farouk al-Sharaa, hawever, he
pointedly, though politely, said he fell hut would nol he appropriate. President
Assad had broken off Lalks with us earlier in the year, insisting that we first
commit explicitly to honor Rabin's “pocket deposit” an the Golan Ileights. Still,
in my formal remarks at the dinner, [urged bath sides to resume our elfort lo
negotiate an Isracli-Syrian agreement. Sharaz’s response was. again.
unencouraing. But 1 did notice, and take heart from, the fact that it was neither
polemic nar overtly hostile towards Israel
When | retuned to Ismael, | found that Peres, wo, wanted lo restart the
negotiating process will the Syrians. The effort wok on fresh momentum after a
meeting at Peres’s home in Jerusalem m early December, ahead of his visit ta
Washington for talks with President Clinton. Hamac Rabinovich and T had cach
met with hi separately a few weeks earlier to brief him on how the talks with
the Syrians had gone under Rabin, and why they'd reached au impasse. We
cmphizsized Assad’s insistence on a preemplive agreement on our leaving the
Golan. Peres now came forward with a plan. 1 was the diplomatic equivalent of
what the Americans. a few years later in the second Gulf War. would call
“shoe and awe.” This was “dazzle and befiuddle.” As Peres explained it, we
would flood Assad with proposals: not just on land vr security, but everything
from water and electricity to tourism and industrial zones. Assad was in
personal control of the Syrian side of the talks. The mere volume, range and
complexity of the simultaneous cugagement Peres had in mind would, he
hoped. dillce his focus on the Golan. “The best results are extracted from
confusion,” he said. Having watched President Assad operate for vears, when 1
was head of intelligence und chief of staff, {said | was skeptical. 1 used the
image of a bulldog. “Tt comes into your liviag room with one aim: t lock oa to
your ankle. You can throw fireworks, cookies, balloons, a tasty bane. Butit's a
bulldog, 1's still going to move another step toward your ankle.” For Assad, the
ankle was the Gola.
Tunderstood why Peres wanted to make a new effort to get peace with Syria.
Obviously. it was something ta be desired in itself. It would transform the terms
al our conflict with the Arabs, and maybe even bring within tach the hope of
ending it aliogecher. But there was a political consideration as well. For all his
other accomplishments. Peres had a record of repeated electoral defeat as head
of Labor, This nex! lection wonld be the first held under a new set of rules.
Instead of merely chosing lists of Knesset candidates, Isracis would cast two
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votes: one for a party list and one for a directly elected Prime Minister. This
would be a personal test, an opportunity for Shimon to build on the still-teauous
achievement of Oslo and finally secure the endorsement of the Israeli people,
It seemed, for a while, | muzht even busve i role. A few days later, Peres and |
met again. In lsacli elections, the campaign manager is called head of hasbarak
media and public-information planning. He told me he still didn’t know
exactly when he would call the election. But he asked me to take on that role.
Both Peres and [ proved to be right sbout the Syrians. The negotiations did
resume, and two rounds of talks were held at Wye River. on Maryland's eastern
shore, in December 1995 and January 1996, They did focus on the whale range
of issues in an evential peace, just as Peres had hoped. and some progress was
ade in identifying arves of poleatial agreement. Bul the bulldog never look its
eves of aur ankle, There was no escaping the fact that without addressing the
question of our silhdrawal from The Golan Heights, we werent going to gel to
the next stage. Sv a decision had w be made.
Peres. no less than Rabin. knew what the trade-off would be. Israel needed a
series of ironclad security arrangements, and a genuine peace, Tather than just
agreement 1o x cessation of hostilities. Syria wonld dennand w gel buck all, or a1
least virmually all. of the Golan. Peres now focused on clarifying, in his own
mind, whether we should be willing to agree to trade the Galan for a peace
treaty. Our key mecting look place in carly February, in the underground bunker
in the 47rya. Peres asked Amnon Lipkin, as chief of staff, and our other top
srenerals for a presentation an their view of the security arrangements required
with Syria under u peace deal. They recommended thal Tract insist on keeping a
sizeable part uf the Golan, as well as a range of demilitarization provisions
which reached pretty much to the edge of Damascus. Id been asked tor my
view by Rabm when | was chici-of-staff, Obviously. from a purely military
standpoint, the ideal situation would be to keep the whole of’ the Golan Heights.
No chief of staff was going to recommend pulling out. But I'd always added
der: to withdsiw as pant of a peice agreement, wath ull its other likely hencfits,
was nol a milifury question. 11 was a decision for the government. The relevant
question for a chief of sufi was whether we could ensure the security of Israel if
the government decided on a withdrawal, lo which answered yes.
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T suspect Amnon would have said much the same thing. But that wasn’t the
question he'd been asked. As the proceedings wound down, Peres looked glum.
Maybe he was anticipating the potential leaks of army concerns about a Golan
withdrawal if wee die get closer 10 a deal, amd the venomous political allacks he
could expect from the eight. Bibi’s stated view on a deal with Syria at the lime
was that we could get peace and keep the Golan. It was classic Bibi, spoken
with verve and conviction es if simply saving it would make it true.
When the presentation was over, Peres called us ino a small room is the
bunker reserved for use by the Defense Minister. As Foreign Minister, 1 was the
only cabinet member with him ulong with Un Savir, Peress senior deputy for
peace: negotiations and several other Peres aides. 1 there had been i discussion,
Twould have told him that as long as he felt the talks were progressing, he could
ignore Ammon’ presentation, [F we didn’t get a deal, it would be irrelevant, If
we did, the miliary could find ways tw deal with the securily issues. Bul he just
looked at us and said” “We're going foe elections.” A few days later, the dae
was set for May 29. 1996. Yet that would turn out not to be the end of Peres’s
doubts ar difficulties. 11 wis only the beginning.
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Chapter Eighteen
The frst attack in the wave of Tamas suicide bombings destroyed & Jerusalem
bus at 6:42 a.m. on February 25. 1996, 1t lef 26 people dead. and nearly 80 injured
from nails and shrapnel packed into the explosive charge. The second wes nea
Ashikelon. The bomber, dressed in Tsracli uniform. joined & group of young soldiers
and blew himself up, killing ane of them, A week later, u third suicide attack
blasted the roof of bus on the seme Jermsaler commuter roe, leaving 19 more
dead. And on March 4, a 24-year-old Palestinian walked up to the entrance of Tel
Aviv's busiest shopping center, on Dizengoff Street, detonated 30 pounds of
explosives. and killed 13 people. At the bomb scones. bloodied survivors nd
crowds of pedestrians surveyed a hellseape of twisted metal, shards of glass aud
mangled body parts. While most Israelis were too shaken to worry about the
immediate political repercussions and Bibi was careful, at least in the immediate
aflerath, not 10 tey 10 score political points —Peres’s reelection campaign seemed
to lie in tarcers almost before it had begun.
‘The attacks were nor a surprise. As ['d argued to the Washington think-tank
udicnee before joining the goverment, the peace promise of Oslo had been
assailed from the start by a new alliance of Islamist Palestinian violence: nizinly
Mamas. and Islamic Jihad on the West Bank. They saw Arafat as a traitor ho had
sold onl 10 smc. For them, the iss wasn’ just Iszacl’s capture of the West Bak
and Gaz in the 1967 war. IL was 1948: they opposed any Jewish state, anywhere in
Palestine. In a campaign of terror that made the first weeks of the intifada seem
atmos easy ta deal with, they began sending sel styled holy warriors to murder
Iscacli civilians, and sacrifice their own lives, in the expectation of Allah's rewards
in the world to come. During the tio years following Oslo. they'd mounted ten
suicide atacks, leaving nearly 80 Israelis dead. The attacks had actually stopped
since the summer of 1995. Bul when the election date was announced — wilh Pores
holding a roughly 15-per-cent lead in the polls — political commentators both in
Israel and abroad began speculating about a resumption of terror. For Hamas, the
election presented not just an opportunity fo kill mmacent Ismaclis but, by helping
defeat Peres and Labor, perhaps to kill Oslo as well.
Tiven before che bombings, our campaign was struggling for focus, energy and
even purposes, beyond The wim of getting move voles han Bibi Netanyihu. Despite
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Peres’ assurance that I'd be the campaign manager. that hada't happened. 1 wasn't
really surprised by that, however. When he offered me the job. [ wondered how
he'd managed to clear it with much more established Labor politicians. It tamed
au he hads’L Hamm Ramon, the veteran whom Ud urged Yitzhak to bring buck for
the election, was pu in charge. Shimon did ask me 10 head a small advisory team
which reported directly to him, but all the key decisions were taken at weekly
strategy sessions chaired jointly by him and Ramon. 1 still hoped ww make the
campaiga a eferendum on Yitzhak 's murder, and on the need w recommit Israel Lo
democracy and dialogue over vitriol and violence, But Haim began with the
assumption thar, given Peres’s lead in the polls, we should simply play it safe,
ignore the issue of the assassination, and Uy to iguoe Bibi, loo. Le described it as
asoceer match. We were leading by two goals, he 101d our first strategy meeting.
The other side was never going to scare unless we serewed up. “To win, we do
what all good teams do. We play for time. We kick the ball around. We kick the
ball ino the stands. We wait for the final whistle.” wed, without success. to argue
that we were underestimating Bibi. “He may be young and inexperienced in
atsanal politics, But [ know him from when he was even yaunger, He knows how
to analyze a task, break it down, work out a plan and execute it systematically and
tenaciously. If we play it safe and don't define the campaign. he'll seize on every
error we mike and he will define it.”
Twanted us at least 1o comeel with Yilzhak’s legacy. 1 argued to both Peres and
Ramon that we should promote Shimon as the candidate with the background.
experience and vision fo tale forward what he and Rabin had begun. | also wanted
us 10 echo a core assumption in all that YiLk did as a military and political
leader: that peace was achievable only if Israel and ifs citizens felt secure. Even
before the renewed terror attacks, 1 argued that we had to recognize that, much as
Israchs yeamed for peace, many were conflicted and fearful about the Oslo
process. T said our central campaign message should be bitachon ve shaton.
Security and peace. “In that order,” I added. “We should tell vorers openly that we
expect groups like Hamas to try wo launch uttacks. But they don’t was 4 secure
Tscacl. They don'L want peace. Doi t play their game.”
Yet the scale and intensity of the bombings threw everything ino crisis. After
the bomb in the Dizengoff shopping mall, Peres called an emergency cabinet
meeting at the Airy. Le knew that we had wo find a way to reassure Israclis we
were getting a pip on the situation. We had got a start in our regular Sunday
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cabinet meeting the day before, by reviving an idea I'd supported under Rabin: to
build a sceurity fence all aloug the edge of the West Bank, with a series of
cantrolled erasing points for peaple and goods. Yitzhak had said no at the time,
because he wis worried 1 would be seen as a de facto horder and undermine the
idea of building coexistence. My view then, and even more 50 now, was hat we
would never get to the point of negotiating a final peace with the Palestinians
unless vee could stop at least most of the terror attacks before they happened. Peres,
100, had been worried about “undermining coexistence.” But now, he and the rest
af the cabinet were so shalcen by the carnage Hamas had left that they approved the
idea of a security barrier.
At our kirya meeting. hours aller the latest bomb had exploded less than i mile
away, Peres recognized we had 10 go futher. Under Oslo, we had begun giving the
Palestinians control over internal security in Gaza and parts of the West Bunk.
Since the new Tamas attacks, Arafat had been saying the right things. Aller the
first bomb in Jerusalem, he'd phoned Shion Lo offer condolences. telling
reporters afterward that this was “a terrorist operation. [ conden it completely. It
15 mol only weainst civilians, bus against the whole peice process.” Yet when it
came lo action, we Saw 10 sign that he was willing, ready. ov perhaps able Lo crack
down on the Islamist terror auacks. So Peres now announced that, if necessary in
ander 10 detain known lerrorists, we would for the first ine send lsmuch oops
back into areas where control had been handed back. If Arafat dido't act, we
would
On the political front. Peres did rer some pood news: President Clinton, anxious
10 preserve the progress he'd worked so closely with Yituk 10 achieve, organi
a0 unprecedented show of international condemaation of the tersoe attacks. With
Tgypt's Hosni Mubarak, he co-chaired a “Sunni of Peacemakers” in Sharm al-
Sheikh with the purticipation not just of m equally concerned King Hissin, and of
course Arafat, but leaders of Arab sates from North Africa to Saudi Arabia and the
Gulf. The only significant holdout was Syria's [atez al-Assad. Ile objected
became he said the conference wins too focused on Isael. As Foreign Minister, |
accompanied Shimon tw the summit. A single day's meeting was never going to
end terror. But it was unprecedented in the breadth of Arab engagement in an
initiative that, as Assad had anticipated, didn’t just condemn terror in general. It
specilically denounced the attacks being launched inside Isracl
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T'd met President Clinton briefly once before, when he received Sycian chiefof-
staff ikmat Shehabi and me after our Blair louse talks in 1994. But the Sharm
conference provided my first opportunity to spend time with him face-to-face,
When Peres and our delegaion were about 1o leave, a Clinton axde approsched and
said the President had asked whether I'd like w join him on the Might back lo
Israel. Though as surprised as I was by the invitation. Shimon nodded at me to
signal it was okay, so | headed of for Ais loree Oue. Lspeut most af the brief
Night talking to the President in the office space carved int the middle of the
plane. 1 would later discover that he quite often tried to engage with foreign
Teaders’ colleagues or advisers on overseas trips, and not limit himself to summit
negotiations. IL eas part of bis voracious appetite for information ur insights which
he believed were essential to get a rounded understanding of the complexities of
the issues he was trying to address. Still, it was an extraordinarily fascinating 20
minutes. | got my first veal look at Clintons natal gifl for person-lo-person
politics, as well as his mastery of both the detail and nuance of Tsrael’s
predicament, and of the wider contlict in the Middle East. Looking straight at me,
almost never breaking eye contact, he encouraged me to feel | ad something of
value and importance to share with him. In fact, he created the impression that T
was the first sentient, incelligent human being he'd ever met. Ie made no grand
policy statements, Mastly, he asked me questions: what were the prospects of
Arafel reming in Hamas aud Islamic Jihad? How were our velitions gomg with
King [Iussein? What was my view of the chances of concluding a peace with
Hater al-Assad, despite his boyeatt of Sharm al-Sheilh? 1f Shimon did go on to
win the election, what new diplomatic opportimitics could he as president, and we,
exploit in the search for peace? And, finally. what if Bibi won? I dare say this first
meeting was more memarable for me than for the president, But it would turn out
10 provide a fonndation for ou jot effarts, ma Fes years time, W resolve the
very issues we'd talked about on Air Loree Ove.
PEE
Though the summit restored a small opinion poll lead for Peres, that merely
reinforced Haim Raman’s soceer-game stategy. | was more convinced than ever it
wis wrong. Haim still wanted 10 ignove Bibi, bit | pointed ont this Gor al kes) one
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ceason, that was absurd. Near the cad of the campaign, there was going be a hoad-
Lo-ead television debate. Tn the meantime, though Bibi might be many things, he
wasn’t stupid, He was already telling vaters that while Peres was making deals
with Arafat, orlinary Isractis were being eft to wonder where the nex! wronist
would strike. Ue would surely ramp up the accusations that Peces was “weak on
security.” especially if there was more violence. To assume that if we just sat back
we would win seemed Ww me complacent and risky. Yet when | mentioned
Shinton that a couple of our internal polls still actually had Bibi slightly ahead, he
just laughed. “I have good polls,” he said. “Why should 1 believe the bad ones?”
“Then, however, violence intervened again. It was not Hamas this time.
Beginning on March 30 and escalating sharply 10 days haler, Katyusha rockets
cained oni towns and settlements in northern Tscael by Iizbollah — the first
sustained attack since the cease-fire in 1994, [¢ was pretty obwiaus that, like
Tlamas, the Icanian-backed Shi'ite militia in Lebanon was not just lacgeting Israeli
civilians, but Oslo, and Peres’s chances of winning the election. The last thing
Shimon wanted was for tens of thousands of people in the north of Israel to be
cower in sheliers during the final sieetel of the campanm, So mm April 11, he
ordered a major military operation in Lebanon
1 wasn't party to fhe discussions about the operation. But the model chosen was
similar to the one 17d drawn up im 1994: a limge-scale air and amillery wssault
designed Lo hit Hizbullah hard, force civilians to flee and persuade the Lebanese
and Syrian governments to commit to a US-mediated end 1o the rocket attacks
Again, all of that happened. But not before a tragic accident which brought 4 storm
of international criticism and hastened the end of the uperation. Au Isruchi special
Forces unit was ambushed while providing laser tacgeting support for an air force
strike. When it called in artillery support, four of the shells fell on a UN compound
mesnr the 1.cbamese village of Quna, killing more thi 100 civilians seeking shelier
inside.
Peres phoned me a few hours later, distraught not just because the wayward
artillery stike Bud laid us open to charges of “targeting” avilians in an operation
designed Lo try 10 avoid doing so. Also. because the accident seemed likely to deal
a further blow to his efforts to convince Israel's voters that he. rather than Bibi,
wits the man best placed fo lead the country, “We're in trouble,” he said. Yet
within days, it became clear that our basic campaign strategy — igaoe Bibi snd
“Kick the ball into the stands” — was not going to change. T did make one last
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attempt to help put us on the political offensive, alter I was asked to record on of
Labor's TV campaign messages. | knew what [ wanted to sey. I'd talked it over
with the small group of campaign experts Peres had asked me to assemble
alongside Rasmon’s main eam. Rather than ignore Bibi, {was poing 10 nse my
position as his former commander in Sayeset Matkal, someone who kaew him
well, to explain why Peres should lead Isiael.
“How many of us can really understand what if means to be a Prime Minster?”
1 began. “As head of intelligence, and chief of staff, 1 have seen, close-up, what it
takes to be a Prime Minister. It is not a game. We've had good Prime Ministers.
Ben-Gurion, Peres, Rabin, Begm,., Ribi, we know each other well, from the days
when yon were am officer under my command. A young officer, aud a good onc.
‘Prime Minister is the most important and serious role in this couawy. Bibi, it’s not
yet you, We need an experienced leader, who will know haw to guide us with
wisdom, strengil and seositivity. Shimon Peres is that man.”
Ye we were never going Lo be able wo avoid cugaging with Bibi altogether. The
face-to-face television debate between the two candidates was set for May 27, two
days before the election. By Amencan stindurds, the format was fairly time. No
direct exchanges were permitted, only a series of questions directed at cach
candidate by a leading political journalist, Dan Margalit. Still it would place
Shimon and Biba side by side. We spent two days prepping Peres, with Avraham
Burg — an carly Peace Now supporter, former Peres aide aud Knesset member —
sanding in for Bibi. Aveaham played the role well. anticipating the lines of attack
Shimon would fice. But as [warched, {wornied that even he couldn't replicate one
of Bibi's key advantages. During his tine at the enbassy in Washiugion, smd
especially as UN ambassador. Bibi had become a [requent presence on American
television interview shows. Always articulate. he was nov also an experienced.
amd completely comfortable, television performer. In our debate rehearsals, Pees
sounded well versed on all the issues. Yet T sensed his problem wasn't going to be
the message, bur ce medium. Ie sounded a bit distan, unengaged. almost as if the
IV debate wins something he knew he ad 10 go through, but which he thought
slightly sullied the proper purpose of politics.
Ta the real debate. Shimon seemed to convey the sense that merely being in the
sume studio wath y pretender as raw and untested as Bibi was offensive. When cach
of the candidates was given the opportunity at the end to ask a single question of
the other, Peres didn’t even bother. Tle did come over as the man with much more
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experience, gravitas, substance. TT also had what was probably the best linc in the
debate, saying that if Iseacli voters vere choosing a male model and not a Prime
Minister, Bibi might indeed be their man, Yet Bibi was much the more polished
perfonmer, and the more fooused. No aller what question Mangal ssked him, be
almost invariably answered with the driving message of his campaign: that because
of Peres. Israeli citizens were living in few, wondering where the next suicide
bomber would sirike or the nest Katyushia would land. And unavoidably, there was
another contrast as well: Bibi. who. aller all, was 26 years younger. projected
greater youth, energy and confidence, When it was over, and Peres asked us how
Te’d done, we all hemmed and hawed. Only Avraham Bury was prepared to offer a
elon verdict. le old Peres that Bibi lind been the clear wiser.
Still, it remained possible that Ramon's football-game strategy might work
“Though Peres’s pall lead had been narrowing by the day. he was just ahead
With 2 large number of voters undecided, however, Bibi pulled ane final wick out
of bis campaign bag. Under Tsracli law. election spending is tightly regulated and
nearly all campaigning is barred during the last 48 hours before polling day. Yet
with ihe backing of wealthy overseas supporters, the Netanyahi campaym
suddenly Mooded lsacl with blue-and-white banners under the slogan: Bibi. Tov la
Yehudi. “Bibi is good for the Jews.” Would it swing tens of thousands of votes
snnang he Onthodox. voters who were the mam tinge? 1 was impossible to say.
But it seemed clear it wes going tw he a very close election.
Thad worried for some time we might lose. That was why Nava and T had
persuided Michal, our eldest daughter, to bring forward her wedding, She was
marrying her teenage boyfriend, a wonderful young mn named Ziv Lolenberg,
They had originally planned it for a week later. But we did want 0 tisk having it
overshadowed by an election defeat. The wedding took place in a beautiful area of
Tawrs uel gardens called Ronit Farm, north of Herzliya. 1 was how weddings are
eant 10 be. full of smiles. good food and dancing. Near the end. Shimon showed
up. As he walked over to greet us, one guest after anodher shook his hand. patted
Im an the back, higged hiro, wished him hk. It was as iF all the presse and
tension of the campaign had suddeoly Nowed out uf lit. Tle smiled, retuoned the
‘embraces, even joined in the dancing. When he left, T told him that he'd doe all he
ould fo secure victory. and that | hoped the voters would make the right choice.
“Ihe first exit polls suggested he was going to win. But our internal polling wis
less clear. As more and more voles were counted, Shimon's margin inexorably
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aarrowed. Tt wasn't until the next morning that the final result was clear: Bibi
Netanyahu had won. By 29,000 votes. Ifa mere 15.000 of the three million ballots
cast had gone in our column instead of his, Shiman Peres would have remained
Prime Minisicr.
J kiiewe he'd be feeling crushed. Not just on a personal level, because this latest
electoral defeat had been in was a direct, head-to-liead vate for Prime Minister. He,
ike all of us who had campaigned for im, knew what was at stale for the country.
11 had bee barely six months since Rabin was gumned down in Tel Aviv's main
square, by a fellow Israeli riding: a tide of hatred so blinkered that it could paint
Virzhale who had worked all his lif fo create, defend and help develop the
Jewish siate — as trailor, even 1 Nazi. All heesuse he hid decided 10 Tey 10 make
peace with the Palestinians, at the price of ceding control of part of the biblical
and of Israel. Bibi had gane through the motians of urging restraint, But
politically, he had ridden their wave. Tt was hard nat w see his victory uver Peres
as a triumph foc the ugly inwlerance and the venom that had claimed Yitzhak 's
life. In policy terms. it was in large part a rejection of both men’s vision of an
smal thal, while sil] ready to fight iC necessary, could explore compromise mn ihe
search for the ultimate prize of peace. The last time Yitzhak and [ had talked, he'd
been confident of defeating Bibi at the polls, and I do believe he would have won.
But despite his differences with Peres, I'm equally certain he would hive wanled
Shimor 1 win, not just for his sake but for Iscacl's.
Thad got to know Shimon, 100, during my years in the Arye. Tn fact, be was the
Labor leader who first spoke fo me openly about one diy movi inta politics.
something Yitzhak wes always pusctilious in nou brouching before Ud lef the
army. Shimon had also taken to including me — usually along with Yossi Beilin
and Shlomo Ben-Ami. a bright young historian who would become cur
smmbissador 0 Spain before entering politics himself in u coleric of “youngsiers™
he would bring along to meet visiting digaitacies fiom abroad. Tle occasionally
invited me to chat about miliary and security issues in his and Sonya’s flat in
Rana) Aviv. My personal es lo Rabin were stronger, of course. Aller joined the
government, Shimon's and my relationship became slightly more circumspect. But
since the assassination, some of the old warmth had returned. Not just as his
foreign minister. but in discussions on wider questions of security as well, we
worked closely together.
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Within days of the election, however, there was a new source of potsatial
friction between us: Shimou’s futuse, and possibly mine, in leading our opposition
ta Bibi and bringing a | abor government back fo power.
PEE
“The question of Peres’s ludership wis univoidable. Labor's constitution
mandated a vole for pay chairman within 14 months of an election defeat. Bui the
widespread assumption was that Shimon would run again. A little before midnight
an election day, with the retums begmnmi: to show we might lose, | was invited to
4 moming-afier break fast by two scion Labor ministers: Fad Ben-Elieer, the
an who bad delivered the table-thumping wasoing that the hatred un the fac-sight
would lead to a murder, and Avraham Shoehat, Finance Minister under both Rabin
amd Peres. Both had heen in the Knossel since the 1980s. Both were part of two of
Peres’ cadicr. failed. election campaigns. Both now said that they weren't
prepared to see him lead us into electoral batdle the next time around. “Everyone in
the party nndlerstamids the meamngz of this defen). Shimon is done,” Shochat said, us
Fuad nodded his ageeement. “You will have 1 go for the leadecship.”
Though their endorsement was a surprise, it would be disingenuous ta pretend 1
Inadn™ been thmkmyg, at some stage in the future, of rummy far the party
Iesdership. Bul my clection-campaign differences with Ramon and Peres were nol
just for the sake of intellectual argument. T badly wanted us 10 win: both for Peres’s
suke and the country’s, and to redeem and contmue all that Yitzhak had sacrificed.
Despile my misgivings shoul some aspects of the Oslo process, {did belive ther:
was a possibility of achieving peace with the Palestinians. T knew, rom my
invalvement in the talks with the Syrians, that the outline of a possible peace
agreement with Assad was sheudy in place. rank ly wasn’t confident that Bibi
was the man to lead it forward. Yes, he was smact. Tle was ocganizationally astute.
1e'd been a good sayerec officer. Yer as I'd said it my TV spot, being Prime
Minister required mie more than that. [was now an elected Knessel member. But
1had gone into politics in the hope of making a difference to how Israel confronted
its defining challenges of war and peace. The prospect of spending the next few as
a mere apposition foot soldier, making: speeches and sifting in committee sessions,
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seemed to defeat the puepose of going into politics in the fest place.
Still. bad no appetite for rushing into a challenge to Peres's leadership, both
because it was bound to be difficult for both of us, and frankly because it seemed
rash, premature and maybe ven umceossary. Bibi was beginning the negotiations
to farm a government, and that process was likely to take at least a few weeks.
Shimon had yet to signal whether he did intend to stay on. Still. when he invited
me for u late-night chat at his apartment a week after the cleenon, 1 was concerned
Jie might raise the leadership issue and [knew thal, iChe did, | would have 10 be
‘honest and open with him.
“The conversation went very differently than I'd expected. After he'd poured
ich oF us 1 whass of Armusgre, and offered me a plate of Sonii’s eikes, be spoke
for a while about Bibi, though he could not even bring himself to utter the name.
This man, he said, knew nothing about leadership, much less about running the
country. He would be ontmnenvered, overshudowed snd ultimately controlled by
the “real strongman” in the Likud: Arik Sharon. said I thought we were again
underestimating Bibis strength, as well as the etfect of the country’s new electoral
system, He was the first Prame Minister fo coy dircet, person mandate. That
wned upside down the balance of power and influence in uur politics. As he
assembled his coalition, the other parties. if they wanted to be in government
would have fo deal with him on his terms, So, fo a much greater extent than before,
would potential internal rivals.
As we talked, T was struck that Shimon seemed cesigued Lo the election defeat,
relaxed, more af ease with himself than at any fime since the start of fhe grueling
campiig. hen, quite suddenly. he suid: “Rhu, [understand the mening of the
election result. “You will have to take on the leadership. and lead the party.” Ile
suid he didn’t plan to spend the rest of his years hanging around the apartment, He
would remiin acave “worldng (or peace” but no longer in the party political
arena. “1 understand the meaning of what has happened.” he repeated “1 will pass
the Labor leadership forch to you, We should find a way fo da it quickly, and in the
Tight way.”
1 was mesrly three in the worming when | lef. [was nol just swprised, but
touched, by what he'd said. Shimon was new nearly 73. He'd had a life in our
countrys politics, and in Fubor, stretching back to before the state, when he'd been
a Bivored protéac of Ben-Gurion. Walking sway was going 10 be hard, was
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touched a3 well by the fact that he had decided Lo “pass the Lorch” Lo me, someone
more in the mold, and closer to, Rabin. But [ remained cautious, wo. When 1 pot
back home, Nava, knowing where I°d been, was still awake. [ fold her everything
that Sharon had sail. | old bier how extraordinary it fel to have the prospec, at
least, of leading Labor in opposition 10 Bibi, without the need to confront, of to
inflict personal hurt. on Shimon. But I added: “Tt seems a bit too good to be true.”
It was. The nest mom, 1 joined other ministers and pity officials with Peres
in lis office. 11 was as il our conversation & few hours before had never happened.
Shimon set out his strategy tor Labor going: tarward. And the first thing he said
was that the party needed to push back any leadership election beyond the
mandated 14 mouths “1's toa carly,” he suid. He said we needed wo focus an lwo
other strategic imperatives: 10 reconstruct the party. and consider the issue of
Joining a possible “unity” government with Bibi,
“Fough Bibi wen on lo form his government without us, in alliance with a
aumber uf smaller Orthodox pasties, the idea of a Labor leadership chauge seemed
off the agenda, ar least for now. In early August, | was standing next to Giora Finy
the “political opertive™ Yitzhak bid sent to help bring me info his government,
and a [riend of Peres as well = when Shimon rose Lo speak 10 the dozens of well-
wishers at his 73" birthday celebration in Tel Aviv. He was at his old, self-
confident best, Wath just a few thousand extra votes, we would have won the
lection, bie said. He wes sure Bibi's coalition = coalition against peace” —
would not survive for long. Giora, smiling, twrned tw me and said: “Tt doesn’t
sound like a farewell speech. It seems like he's ready for the next round, He lost
Iwvice: 10 Begin. He lost ounce to Shami. And only once lo Bibi. He's nol going to
stop without giving it another go.”
Another of Peres’s old friends. a few weeks later, urged me to press him on the
mized lo step aside. 1'd become closer 10 the French Jewash biusingssmin Jean
Frydman during the clection campaign. Since he had helped organize the fateful
peace rally at which Rabin was shot, he felt wrongly, but powerfully a sense of
responsibility for what hid happened. He wanted fo do everything possible to
ensure that Rabin's political legacy, and Shimon’s, survived. He invited Nava and
me to visit hin for a few days. When he asked about the birthday celebration, T
told him what Peres had suid. “He's making a huge mistake,” Jean told me, “After
every election, he gous through the same process. Always, he’s canvinced that nest
time he will win.” said how I dreaded the prospect of being part of an effort to
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force Shimon out. But Jean said he'd been giving a lot of thought to everything
that had happened since Rabin was killed. Tle fell T was the only poteatial Labor
Teader who could defeat Bibi in an election and “bring back sanity ta Israel, lead it
10 peace.” He sand ie wins convinced that Peres’s lime had passed. “1 can say thet.
Pm from his generation. Aud as a very close friend of Shimon, T will be the fisst in
line to help you.”
Farly in September, having let Shimon know through Giors and then phoning
him dirculy. | declared publicly that | would he sunning for the Libor leadership.
Though he'd thanked me for telling him beforehand, he said he thought 1 was
‘male a mustuke, and was still against huving a leadership election af all, That
‘madd his public respons fo my announcement puzzling. He went on fsrachi 1¥
and said he would wor be a candidate for Prime Minister in four years’ time. “The
time fs come for u change,” he said. But while everyone toals faut to mean he was
ceconciled to a change of party leadership as well, if luened out that we bad jumped
the gun. Te intended Lo stay on as chairman.
During the early months of 1997, Shimon and T held a series of late-night
mectings a his apartment to thrash ant an agreed course. was a process hat wos
hard for both of us, and hurtful for him. 1le was now al least reconciled 1 the
inevitability of an election for a new party leader. it only because his protégé Yossi
Beilin had also put has name forward. But he kept proposing to push back the vote.
insisted that since the deadline under party rules was June 3, it was only sight Ural
all of us abide by that. T do remember a particularly poignant moment from one of’
aur sessions, Pers had left the roam for a minute, and Sonia came in, “Ehud,” she
sid 10 me, “keep your nerve. You're the only one who can tlc lo bim this way.
Tle should have reticed from politics years ago. You'te the only one around him
who tells him the ruth.”
We ended np with a compromusc. Shimon acecpled that the keadership election
would be held on June 3. 1 agreed that in the unlikely event Bibi decided 10 invite
us into his coalition during the three months affer the leadership vote, Peres would
sleet the Labor ministers, Our last meeting ended at nearly four in the moming,
He old me he'd arranged a reception for the party leadership at 10 an, in barely
six hours” time. Tle suggested we meet in his office an hour beforehand. didn't
know what to expect, After months of discussions. 1 hoped he understood that |
had wanted the process to go dilferenily. [had heen open aud honest with him
throughout. But T kaew that, deep down, he still wanted to stay on. that he believed
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that his loug record of service should have cared him tha right, and that it would
be painful for him to aceept that, by June, there would be a new Labor leader.
He was relaxed and gracious when | arrived, We went through the details of
what we'd agreed, and worked oul what cach of ns would say 1o reporters, What
wane nes, as the party faithful filed in, was simple human nature, [ suppose.
Seeing some of his oldest supporters. he had second thoughts. His comments to
reporters afterward were mare hedged than what we'd discussed, Giora told me
that aller all of us bad lef, Peres wemed to him and said: “Look wht Barak is
doing: to me. What have yu been doing?” Giora, who had been a conduit between
us at the very beginning of our discussions, replied: “You asked me ta bring Barak
10 you." Al which point, Shimou said: “OK. So probably [ made a mistake.”
Ala convention of 3.000 pay activists in mid-May. a fow weeks before the
leadership election, he made a final attempt to mitigate that “mistake”, Nissim
Zvi, the secrctury-gencral of the party and i hmgime Peres ally, introduced a
motion Lo vote hit into a tev post of party president. A couple of Shimon’s
friends urged me to back the idea, describing it essentially as a ceremonial role.
But [ feared it was a recipe for prolonging the agony. Whistever powers “President
Peres” would have, the idea of two captaing va a ship would almost certainly mean
trouble. [ was especially reluctant to go along with it because our particut ship
had been in rough witers for so lang, Libor needed to steer a alm, decisive course
toward the next election if we were going to defeat Bibi.
What followed was one of the most painful spectacles I've ever witnessed.
When Peres rose fo make his case for becoming party president, he said; “1 don’t
wit powers. | don’t want honors. But Ualso don't want insuls. | anounced my
decision to resign fiom the position of parcy chairman. Did someone push ine into
it? Am | trying ta hold on to my job?”
“Yes? many hindreds of the delegates shouted buck at him,
Stung, he reminded the meeting thal it was he who had led Labor back from the
battering it took in the 1977 election against Begin. In 1981, he'd helped us
recaver i dozen of our lost seats. Fven so, becuse he hadn't succeded m forming
a Labor government, people had called him a loser! “8al? Ani los?” he asked,
using the nglish word. “Am 1a loser?”
“Yes! Yes!" came the shours.
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Yet the saddest note came at the end. “1 apologize for being healthy, for not
geting old according to plan.” he said, adding that even without the title of
resident, he wauld keen working for peace.
“There were three other candidates for party chuirman: Yossi Beilin; Ephraim
Snch, the friend who'd heed the paratioopers” chief medic when we'd fought at the
Chinese Farm in 1973, and at Entebbe to0; and Shlomo Ben-Ami. the academic
and diplomat whom Shiman had raken along with Yossi and me to meet visiting
Foreign politicians, and who was now also 1 newly elecied member of the Kaesset.
When the vote came, it was assumed by most political commentators that I was
omy to win, The anly question was whether 1°d et the 50 per cent of votes
needed 10 void a man-off, where he outcome might be loss predictable. But 1 gol
57 percent against Yossi’s 28, with the remaining 15 percent split between
Fphraim and Shlamo-Ren Ami,
oes
Now, we had fo put ourselves in a position to defeat Bibi and the Likud. Policy
priorities were ultimately what would matter most: strong and credible steps to
contiont terror and safeguard our security, allied with the leadership and will to try
to negotiate a peace with Syna and the Palestinians: and, wl home, a recommitment
10 the values of sn open, Loken demacracy. But in al least one important way. |
approached my new role as if it was one of our operations in Sayeret Matkal. or the
need to reshape our armed forces when | was chicf-of-staff, My first prionty was to
pu in place the practical foundations for a successiul election challengs: agains.
Bibi. Through Jean Trydman and other business supporters with the means and the
desire to help, my brother-in-law. Doron Cohen, assembled sufficient funding for
us lo begin engaging with the stmicgists who had helped deliver leetorl sees
for a trio of other centre-left political leaders overseas: Bill Clinton. Tony Blait in
Britain and later Gerhard Schroeder in Germany.
My main carly political focus wis on holding Bibi and the govermnent to
account in the Knesset, shove all on Lhe torturous process of ensuring our sceuily
while implementing the West Bank redeployment agreed in Oslo IL We'd made a
small stat under Rabin and Peres, but the three major withdrawal phases duc in the
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five-year interim period had yet 10 begin. Tn vo respect, [had some sympathy for
Bibi's predicament. The reason Id ried w get Yitzhak to slter the terms of Oslo 11
was that it required us to hand back control before we knew whit a “permanent
statu” pea deal wonld look like. Bul where my sympathy ended was in how Bibi
handled the situation. Despite my concerns about the way the Oslo process had
been designed, I never doubted thar killing it off would be by far a worse
aliernative. Bibi had been elected to fead Lssael. lstcad, be acted as if he was
playing some sort of pinball match, Tipping the ball fist one way, then the other,
with 10 abyious aim beyond keeping it im play and. where Oslo was concerned,
simply stalling for time. Rather than setting: our any vision of where he hoped to
move the negotiating process, he seemed mare eoceried with keeping the right-
wing of Likud and the smaller, even more extreme parties from turning against
him.
In late September 1996, Bibi and the Likud mayor of Jecusalent, Bhud Olmert,
decided 10 go ahead with the festive opening of an archeological tunnel that
provided access to a larger portion of the Western Wall of the ancient Jewish
empl. 11 wns i decision that, under both Rubin umd Peres, we'd delayed out of
concern about inflaming teagions with the Palestinians. As Shimon rightly said
publicly after the three days of violence that followed, we understood that, ata
minimum, it wonld need to be coovdmated beforehand with Arai. As the nest
spread into the West Benk and Gaza, there were media warnings of a “ew
intifud," the difference this time being that the Palestinians newly established
police liad entered the fray. By the time urzent US diplomacy, our efforts and
Arafit’s, brought it wo a close. 25 [sracli soldiers and nearly 100 Palestinians had
been killed. Tle did not stam the brakes altogether on the American-led efforts to
‘mave ahead with the Oslo. In early 1997. in fact, he and Arafat reached a separate
agreement on the eriically important question, and potential flashpoint, of Hebron,
Tt stipulated that about 80 percent of the area would be under Palestinian authority,
with Israel retaining: control and responsibilicy for nearby settlements and key
security points, Despite right-wing and settler opposition, it was approved by a
wide margin in the KnesseL, with Labor's backing. Buta few months later. in the
spring of 1997. Lamas launched a new campaign of suicide bombings in shopping.
areas of Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, leavmiz 24 people dead. While not suggestmg that
Bibi tak the hussian cost of tenor Fighily. he did nse the wack fo drag out further
US-mediated talks on the details of implementing the Oslo I redeployments.
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By November, even his Foreign Minister. David Levy, was making noises
about quitting. Tle said it would be a waste of time to stay in the cabinet if it was
going; to bring the peace process to a ult, 1 warned Bibi, hoth in the Knesset and in
i senes of specehes, about the slemative on the Palestinian sid if those who
wanted a negotiated peace had nothing but stalemate to show for it. And lives, {
insisted, were at stake. Both through closed-door sessions of the Knesset's security
and foreign 2laics committee, and my own contaets in military intelligence, | was
convinged that the result would be a second. much more deadly, intifada. Not with
Molotov cocktails, but guns, and suicide bombs.
Iwas not out to score political points in keeping the pressure on Bibi to move
forward. In Fact, | snnounced that if Bibi did go ahead and tualize the lems for
our Oslo redeployment, Labor would once again provide the extra Knessel votes
needed for him ta get it approved.
Farly in 1998, he sent word that he waned Lo Talk. The message came through
Yaakov Ne'eman, his Finanee Minister and & prominent lawyer whom | knew and
liked. He and [ held an exploratory meeting at which he proposed talks with Bibi
an the prospect of ity govermnent thal would help moves the peace process
forward. | said I'd talk, wil one proviso: the discussions would be genuinely
secret, with no leaks. 1 was not prepared to engage in political gamesmanship. In
May, Bibi sent un assurance of confidentiality through Ne’emun, The first of about
a half-dozen mectings came a few days later at the Prime Minisier’s residence in
Jerusalem. Then, we shifted venue. meeting at a Mossad-owned villa noth of Tel
Aviv. 1 brought along Baugie Herzog, a bright youny lawyer, and Labor Party
member, sho was working in the same law fin ind Neen. [wes by no means
clear we'd agsee on a unily goverament. To my amusement, if not altogether Lo my
surprise, 1 got word that Bibi was putting out separate political feelers to Shimon
Peres. Bul before long, it became clear these was a specific political motivation
behind his approaching me. Tt was indeed the peace process. But il wasa't the
Palestinian peace process. something Bibi still clearly wanted to avoid as much as
Iuananty possible. 11 wis an aitemp lo engage with Syria.
He asked me about the talks under Rabin aud Peres. and my views on the
possibility of a deal with President Assad. Tle lso wanted my assessment about
whether fhe nny could work out amangements to sifeguard the country’s security
if we handed hack most. if nol all, of the Golan Heights. 17 so, what kind of
security arrangements. with what timeline? We met through the summer, as the
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talks with the Americans oa the futher West Bank redeployments meandered
ahead. We also discussed in detail how a unily government would work. We
agreed it would be presented, like the Shamir-Peres partnership in 1984, as a cross.
pay response lo un important challenge for the country: in this case, security and
the peace process. | would be both Defense Minister aod “Viee-Prime Minister”,
with the understanding that Bibi and I would jointly discuss all major issues before
jointly agreeing to bring them to the full cabinet
But in August, the talks ended, afer news of our talks finally losked. 1
immediately phoned Ne'eman. I reminded him that at the outset, I'd said that
would mean the discussions were over, He did call me buck later in the day to say
Bibi insisted that he'd had nothing to do with the leak. My ness was thal the
source was my old comrade from the Chinese Farm, Yitzhik Mordechai, who had
Dresumably heard tht Ril was ready to make me Defense Minister as part of a
unity government. There wes, of course, already a defense minister: Yitzhik.
13ibi's idea to reopen efforts 10 pet peace with Sydia dida’t last either. Although
1°d learn of this only a few years later. lie’d approved a visit to Damascus by the
American Jewish businessman Ronald Lander to meet President Assad. The visit
made it elear to Bibi wha sucecssive Israeli leaders had learned: a deal might he
possible, but only if Ista] was willing to commit in advance to pulling out of the
Golan, Assad told | ander to come buck to him with u detailed map setting out
Bibi's view an defincating the lsracli-Syrian border under a peace agreement.
Though no one in the cabinet kaew the initiative was underway, Bibi realized that
before sending back the map Assid wanted, he would need to tell the two senior
ministers directly affected: Arik Sthron, who had replaced David Levy as Foreign
Minister: and Yitehik Mordechai. Both of then: said no, with Yithik pointing out
that a signed map would inevitably become part of the negotiating record. It was a
step tha mn unre negotiations, could not be undone.
Bibi's coalition was now creaking. 1 he Syrian option was off. David Levy had
already jumped ship. Yitzhik, increasingly concerned about Bibi's delay and drift
an Oslo 11, seemed to be think of leaving ws well, Right wing ministers and
Kuiessel members were uo happier: they opposed even the slightest prospect of
movement on Oslo. Tn October, Bibi did finally try 10 seize the initiative, ITe
wrapping up the redeployment details in summit with Arafat and C lmton snd
Aral in Wye River. Bul as soon as he got hack home, he started backtracking,
rather than risk facing down his right-wing critics in the cabinet. Implementation of
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the deal was due 1 begin in cacly November, but he kept putting off a vote in the
cabinet. When the vote came, on November | 1, Bibi squeaked through by a margin
at 8 104, but with five abstentions, That meant less fhun half of his ministers had
vaied for it
The casy past fo his was Kuesset ratilieation, since [had commiued Labor to
supporting Bibi on any move towards continuing the peace process. The day afer
the Knesset's vote, Bibi won the cabinets clearance for actual implementution to
begin, But it didn’t. With hard-liue ministers threatening 1o bring down the
‘government if ir did. Bibi again stalled. That was the turning point. I'd made it
clear our parliamentary support would remam far as long as itn moved ahead
with what had been agreed wl Wye River. 11 was not intended ws a blank check, or
an offer tw prop up a Prime Minister who now seemed 10 be looking for any way
possible nor to implement the agreement,
My key ally in what came next was Haim Ramon. Despite our differences over
the disection of the Peres election campaign, we had become effective
parliamentary parmers. He had a depth of political experience and knowledjze T still
lacked. While | found fhe detisils of how the Knesset operated arcane and often
tiresome, Haim knew all of iL instinctively. When it cane 0 the need for discreet
discussions or bargaining with other parties. not only could he draw on his
personil relationships with Knesset members across the party divide, He hud the
additional advantage of being able 1 avoid the seruiny that would follow a direct
approach from me. Before Bibi had gone to Wye, ITaim and T had discussed how
we might move fo force early elections. The peace process, and the country, were
drifting. "There seemed no point in wailing, if we conld be confident of lining up
the necessaty votes among the growing aumber of others who were also convinced
Bibi should go. After the Wye summir apreement. 1 put all that on hold. But now
that Bibi had shifled nw reverse, | told Haim 1o resume his eiTorts,
In carly December, he told me he had enough votes for a no-confidence motion,
under his name, to dissolve the Knesset and pave the way for early elections, The
axe fell on December 20. Bibi hud lost the support of the nght-wing, who winfcd
Oslo ended altogether. Le liad now lost me, too. 1 felt his approach to the peace
process was leaving Israel rudderless. The way we were heading. we would not
Just forfrt ny potential benefits from Oslo. We would be leaving u political und
diplomalic vacium #1 a time whe a serious new explosion of Palestinian violence
was becoming ever more likely. In the Knesset debate, Bibi made one final bid to
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save himsell: by suggesting a delay of 72 hours for talks on a “unity” government
1 said that [ was all for unity. But 1 ceminded him that, time afler time, we'd saved
his government in order to continue the peace process. We could no longer help
out a gavenmment thal is nol interested in upholding he Wye agreement, but only
in its political survival.”
The vote of no-confidence went against him by the yawning margin of 81 t 30.
with nine Knesset members abstainmg or staying away. A few days later, the date
Tor the election was announced: May 17, 1999.
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Chapter Nineteen
A few hours before Haim Raman introduced his no-confidence resolutian, he
came 10 see me ia my office in the Knesset. Ue was worried. Not about the vote,
ut about what would come after. “Ehud, I'm sure we can topple the government.”
he told me, “But anly you know whether we're ready whether you re ready to
defeat Bibi in an election.”
“Tm ready.” T said. “We are going to win”
Few agreed. In fact, there had been times during my first year-and-a-half as
Labor leadee when I wondered if I'd be able to hang on w the job. 1 was in charge
ola party whose grassroots were on the lefl. 1 was, by intellect and instinct, a
pragmatist and a centrisc. I did share Labor's vision of a socially just and
demoeratic (sracl. Especially afler secing far-right rabbis cg on [he Ganaticism that
ultimately killed Yitchak Rabin, 1 fel stroagly that we needed to separate
organized religion from our day-to-day politics. But I'd been raised with a deeper
respect for aur Jewish traditions than many on the left. Right afer Yitzhak's
murder, I'd gone 10 sce Zevulun Hammer, the leader of the National Religious
Party. It had been part of both Labor and Likud governments ever since 1948,
though not Rabin’s. The NRP, too, had been drifting steadily rightward. But it still
basically subsetibed the idea of # strong. democratic Israel under the cule of law. |
wanted to briny: the NRP back into the government under Peres, as part of the
widest possible political alliance against the assassination and the campaign of
hatred thi had fostered it, Sadly that didn’t happen, in part because of the anger
against all Orthodox politicians after Rabin’s murder. Yet in my readiness to
engage politically with Orthodox leaders who did not reject the very idea of peace
negotiations whether in the NRP, or the mereasingly influential Sephardi
religious party, Shas — | was outside Labor's mainstsan, and its comfort zone.
On my approach to peace as well. differed from many on the left. Though I
was determined to pursue any realistic avenue fo negotiations, | was convinced that
security considerations had 10 be paramount in what we were prepared to give up
or accept in negotiations. I was cautious about ceding too much too soon, in case
the Palestinians or the Syrians proved either unequal to. or uninterested in, making
the hard decisions required for peace. That was am approach with, Hike Yitzhak
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before me. provoked more lefl-wing parties ike Merete Lo suggest that I(T really
wanted peace, I'd be ready 10 give away more, and more quickly.
My position wasn't helped by the way 1 had come over in the media during my
first months as Labor leader, A number of newspaper commentadors wrote thal
while they found talking with me stimulating. | seemed to be operating in a world
af my own, either unable or unwilling to give straight answers and a single, clear
message. They were night about that. If asked a question, especially one which
abviously involved in issus of nuance, ny instinct was nol Lo come up with
sound bite. It was. as best 1 could, to answer fully and accurately. The difficulties
that could sometime cause hit home in an inferview with a leading lsrachi journalist
in the spring of 1998. He asked how uy life might have wrned out if 1d been bom
and raised not as a kibbutznik, but a Palestinian. 1 answered: “Al some stage, T
would have entered ane of the terror organizations and fought from there, and later
would certainly bave tried Lo influcace from withia the political system.” 1 did
hasten 10 add that T abhorred Lerrorists, describing their actions as “abominable...
villainous.” But that was lost in the political stom that followed. All I'd done was
amvsawer as honestly | could. What iF 1 bad been one of the Palestmim babics in
Wadi Khawase, but with the same mind and same impulses that had defined my
life as an Israeli? I assumed that instead of becoming an Istaeli soldier and
politician, | would hisve become the closest thing to 1 Palestinian equivalent. Sull,
as even my brother-in-law, Dorou Cohen, Wold me when he phoned a couple of
hours later. it was not the most astute thing to say as a potential candidate for
Prime Minister.
None of this might haves matiered if 1d ben able 1o show 1 was bringing Labor
aearer to defeating Bibi. Bul the only measure of progress that the media paid
attention to was the opinion polls. Briefly. in late 1977. 1 id pull ahead, during the
period keding up to Bibi's agreement to pull out of most of Hebron. nt for mich
of 1998. T wes suaniog behind, and questions about my leadseship surfaced
publicly by the summer. The media commentators spoke of the need for a Labor
“Nol Why, fier i full yeu ws leader. had {filed 1o deliver a?
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There was a part of polities for which [ was natally suited aller my life in the
acmy: Lo plan an operation, prepare and execute it. An ability to get the lic of the
Tand, assess your own and your rivals’ strengths and vulnerabilities, and to win.
And he lic of the and” sinuck me as more cneowging than nny beach
commentators believed. When | became Labor leader, [didnt expect Bibi w fall
anytime soon. Bur I believed it was inevitable that at some point he'd have to make
tough choices about the peace process, and | doubted his coalition with the more
right-wing Orthodos partics would survive. | also tok encouragement from the
fact that the political winds in other develaped democracies seemed to be blowing
in our direction. Bill Clinton had won in the United States. In Britain. which had a
parliamentary system uch closer Ww [sracl’s, Tony Blaic, as keader of a party
renamed as New Labor, had ended eighteen years of Conservative rule and swept
ta victory. Behind the scenes, | immediately made sure that, wich financial help
from Jen Frydman and other supporters, we began the practical work of leaning
from the experience of center-left parties in other counties.
Within weeks of my election as Labor chairman, 1 used my acquaintance with a
Bratish Jewish businessman named Michael Levy lo see what lossons our shor
pacty might lear from Tony Blair's. Levy had been an carly supporter of Blair and
persuaded che Prime Minister to welcome me through the famous black door of
Number 10 Dovwnmg Street. Aller chatting in the font hallway, the British Prime
Minister led me into the back garden 10 discuss how lie had refashioned his pany
and brought it back into government. In addition to modifying or abandoning
rigidly lefl-wing positions that most British voters had rejected, he had created a
formidable campaigning team usider au ally and adviser named Peter Mandelson.
When I asked Blair whether it would be possible to meet Mandelson. hie said he
couldn't “give me Peter.” But he did put me in touch with Philip Gould. the polling
expert and strategist who had parmezed Mandelson in designing and running the
election campaiga.
‘We met at Labor headquarters in Milbank Towers so Philip could show me the
“ir room” — snodelled, in part, on Bill Chinlon’s campaign operation — from
which the victory had been planned and exceued. IL was a lage, open-plaa space,
nothing like the warren of offices and conference rooms from which Labor in
Israel operated. Pride of place went to an advanced computer system, fhe heart of a
“rebuttal unit” whieh charted every statement fiom the Conservative Party 50 il
could be answered, neviralized or used to adjust Labor's ow campaign. I was
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steuck by bow diffevent the approach was from our campaign for Peres. As T filled
my notebook with the details, Philip added a final bit of advice. “IF you want to
win, have it run by the best professionafs you can tind, Not politicians. They
always hive personal agendas. Focus is everything. Distractions md arguments
and infighting can be fatal >
Philip recommended one professional, in particular. to get us started: Stanley
Greenberg, the pollster who had advised not anly Blairs campaign, but Clinton's,
Duron used his coutaets in New York to put us in touch nol uly with Greenberg
Tut the straregist behind the Clinton victory, James Carville, and another leading
Democratic Party consultant and speechwriter, Rob Shrum, We begun working
with all of them well before the no-confidence vote in the Knesset. Philip bad »
wondeufully British understatement and reserve. Stanley. with his eyeglasses and
demeanor foo, came over as slightly professorial, With Rob, it didn’t take long to
understand why he was such a gilled specchwriter. TTe loved words, especially the
way they could be used Lo inspise a connection with important campaiga themes:
above all with the idea of hope. and new beginnings. Carville was the human
quivalert of a volcano. 1 he badn’t been a campaiin shdegist, he conld lis
made a living as a hybrid of a cowboy and a stand-up comedian. But they all
shared the easy. infectious self-confidence of people who were very pood at what
they did, nd knew il.
Whe 1weut to New York with Doron to meet Carville in Feburary 1988, my
confidence as Labor leader was taking some [airly hard knocks. But from the
moment he walked through our hotel-room doar, it was impossible not to like him.
He showed up in a T-shirt and lenis sneakers, walked straight seross the room,
slouched iato a chair and said: “General Barzk, [ don’t get it. You're a kaown
public figure, with a erear mind and a great military record. It's already been a
yeur-andachial sine lsrael gol Netanyahu What hive you done To go afier hin?
Why haven't you gone on the attack?” Te said it was Lime (oc me o wake up. and
change tack. “Can you run through your stump speech for me,” he asked.
molianing me foward the center of the room hke a film director.
“1 don't have one” Usaid. To which be replied briskly that | should have had
one months ago.
When Stanley paid a prelimmary visit with Philip to Israel, they. too, urged me.
10 sharpen my message and py more wiention 10 my ime with The public.
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Stanley was worried by polling data that suggested most Tscaclis saw Bibi as
“trong” T argued that strength was one area where we wouldnt have to worry
“No way, in a campaign, he'll end up coming over looking stronger than me.
Stanley seemed not entirely convinced
Both in “streaglh” and other ways, 1 think my background did prove au
advantage. The 33 years ['d spent in the military had given me a singleminded
determination ta set goals, follow throngh und achieve them, After Haim Rimon
came 10 my office before the no-conlidence voi lo ask whether | was sure |
wanted to go ahead, and 1 answered with an unhesitating “ves,” Haim had told a
couple of reporters: “Barak bis bulls of steel.” In feuth, 1 was puzzled he'd even
asked me. As when | was in uniform, it would never have ocenrred 10 moe 10 ask
him 10 try 10 line up the necessary votes if T hadnt thought it through and intended
ta go ahead with it,
Still, my military buckground was not always an asset as | found my foc! as
party leader and prepared w take vn Bibi in the election campaign. In searching for
the fools. the structure, and the people [ felt would give us the best chance to win,
sometiniss fife lo pay dic atlention tw the pirty’s existing apparatus snd
instiwtions. | his alicnaied 2 number of established Labor politicians, eventually
including Haim himself. So as the campaign approached 1 tried to shore up my ties
with the party establishment, | deaficd in Bougie Herog fo act as my regular
liaison with keading figures in the party. | was carcful to clude a number of Labor
politicians in our campaign team as well, though, as Philip Gould had
recommended, | made sure they didn’t actually run it.
“The closest equivalent fo the role Haim bid played in Peres’s campiign went lo
a young businessman. PR professional and Labor supporter named Moshe Gaon
As spokeswoman, we brought in someone wha, though she'd been a messenger of
doom during the Tre chim controversy thal engulfed me before joing Rubin's
government, had undeniable experience and ability which | valued and respected:
Yitzhak’ former media aide Aliza Goren, As campaign coordinator, 1 chose Tal
Silberstem, who ul the time was in charie of 2 citizens” group called Dor Shatent
Aoresh Shalom: “A Whole Generation Demands Peace.” [relied on frequent, less.
formal input from political friends whose judgement I had leaned to trust, like
Fitan Haber and Giora Eim, Also playmygz a key role wis a gronp of four young
women, led by Cina Angel, a successiul architect and # former soldier in Sayeret
Matkal. She built from scratch an army of nearly 20,000 volunteers who helped
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organize events and contact voters duding ihe campaign. We outfitted ous own war
com in an upen-plan floor of offices on the edge of Tel Aviv. Philip called it
“Milbank South.” As arganizational head of the campaign, | chase Chagai Shalom,
An industrial engineer by training, he was a reserve amy general who, when 1 wis
chief of stall, had been in charge of the logistics beach of the military. | gave him
Sayeret Matkal backup as well. in the person of Danny Yatom, my longtime friend
and former sayerel deputy.
vee
But all that was process. Winning ov losing would come down to how our
message, our ability 10 forge alliances, and my own personal and political appeal.
‘measured up against Bibi,
“The new system of separate elections for party and Prime Minster meant thal in
arder 10 win a majority. | would need the support of voters outside Labor as well.
set aut to establish a broader movement, a biyg tent under which a majority of
Israchs could coexist politically. {realized this tisked provoking ager mony
some Labor activists. But [wanted 10 convey lo voters that | was reaching out
Deyond my core party constituency: to “soft” right-wingers nearer the political
center; lo the Sephardim who since 1977 had overwhelmingly voted Likud; to the
rowing number of Russian immigrants who had helped Bibi defeal Peres: and to
those among the Orthodox who still subscribed to wlerance and moderation in the
mold of the old-style National Religious Purty in the first few decades of the state.
“Though the candidates on our Knesset election list would all be from Labor. | ran
the Prime Ministerial campaign under the broader banner of Yisrael dai = One
Israel 1 envisaged it as an alliance of at least several differen parties with Labor at
ils canier,
began with Bibi’s jeuisoned Foreign Minister, David Levy. Te was a
Moracean-bom 1950s immigrant whose career had begun at the jrassroots, in the
narfhern town of Beit Shean, but who went on to become a key prt of Begin's
victory in 1977. The leading Sephardi figuse in the Likud, be was at one poiat
mentioned as a future leader. Many Israelis, especially on the lef, now portrayed
tm us i figure of ridicule, But I'd always had a higher opinion of him, During the
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1982 Lebanon War, with two sous fighting va the geound, he'd been a rare voice of
common sense, aod caution, in the Begin cabinet. Pd also seen him operate in
Shamir's inner security cabinet, when I would come, us deputy chief of staff, to
present military operations for wpprovl. {remember one oceasion when an air
Torce general laid out the details of 2 planned helicopter-borae mission into
Lebanon. 1 added a few remarks in summary. Raful Litan and Arik Sharon were
both ministers. Within seconds, they were peppering the general and me with
questions. Why were the airerafl taking one route north instead of another? Why
nat closer to Mount Hermon? Shouldn't they fly lower? Levy interrupted.
“Gentlemen,” he said, “we are not in company commanders’ course. We're in the
inner cabinet of the government of Israel. We have a chief of staff and other
‘generals and military professionals. It's their job to decide the operational details.
Our jab is to balance the reasans for doing: an operation against the risks as
presented W us.”
Tet with him in the Kaesset cafeteria before Bibi went off to the Wye River
summit. Levy now headed a small breakaway faction trom Likud called Gesher,
Hebrew for “hridge.” Withont explicitly smggesting we join Rees, | explained my
hope to run my eventual campaign foc Prime Minister in alliance with & few other
parties. T told him 1 wanted to make my candidacy a legitimate choice for voters
Trom the center-right, the Orthodox, as well ws the Russian community. 1 took
napkin and drew a big umbrella Lo illustrate what | had in mind. He said he
understood — though he did tell me to make sure I tore up the napkin. There came a
paint, at the end of November when it looked like my overture had failed,
Scampering for a way 10 shore up his coalition, Bibi ried to lure Levy into the fold
back by offering him the Finance Ministry. But with resistance fiom other
ministers, Bibi broke otf the talks with Levy. leaving him humiliated and furious. [
met with him several mare times, and we brought in Gesher as our first “One
Tscael” partner. The second to join us, early in the new year. was a small religious
party called Meimad. inspired by an openly pro-peace Orthodox rabbi named
Yehuda Amital und melodie a farmer Chief Rabbi of Norway, Michael Melchior,
By the end of January 1999, several moaths before the real campaign. | was
feeling better about where we stood, in part because of a series of hits Bibi was
taking from former friends and allies. The first salvo was fired by Misha Arens,
who had helped engineer Bibi’s nove into vational politics. le announced he was
‘going to put himself forward for the Likud leadership before the election, saying
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that he and others were convinced Bibi couldnt win. A couple of weeks later,
Yitehik Mordechai seemed on the verge of becoming the lawest of Bibi's ministers
ta resign, He was openly flirting with the idea of joining a new centrist party thar
Tised been fovmmed by Likud’s 1am Meridor. Bibi struck buck wath iw nxinre of
subtlety and venom. Le [iced Mordechai. accusing him of being driven by personal
ambition. Then he offered the Defense Minister's job to Misha Arens.
Yitzhik did join the Center Party. as did Amnon 1.ipkin, who had ended his
term as chict-of-stalT and with initial opinion poll numbers suggesting he'd do
well, even briefly entered the race for Prime Minister. Now, he endorsed Yitzhik
Mordechai mstead: 1 man not only with strong mulitary credentials, but of Sephardi
backgrond und religiously observant, aud a proven politician nd cabin! minister
Tt was clear that he would be going aier many of the same votes [ needed 10 win
That situation wasn’t ideal, fo put it mildly, But all [ could do at fhis stage was
10 pus onr own campann house in order. | hoped iat ie ran the campaign
expected, there wouldn't be a nuw-ofl
PE
At the start of April, the final list of candidates was set. There were five. [n
addition to Bibi, Yitzhik und me, Benny Begin had decided to rm on the right,
Alsorin the contest was Knesset member Azmi Beshara, the first Israch Arab
citizen to se<k national office.
‘When we chose “One Israel” as the name of our campaign alliance, it was not
meant just as a catchy phase. Though now a half-century uld, the country had
rarely seemed so diverse, and in many ways divided. Tt was not just the old fault
line between Labor and Revisionist Zionism that defined our politics, or even the
Ashkenaz-Sephardi yulf that had prodammated since the late 1970s, There were
new, younger, more assertive. more right-wing and more pro-setlement voices
among the Orthodox. There was the contrast between the overwhelmingly secular,
nalitically and socially fiberal, and culturally Western Tel Aviv, with its ively
cafés and restaurants. and the constellation of wealihy suburbs to the north: and
smaller Israeli towns and cities in the interior, Jerusalem as well. not to mention
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the settlements on the West Bank. Since the fall of the Soviet Union, hundreds of
thousands of Russians had also flowed into Tsracl. Most were Jowish in culture
mare than religious observance, but they were instinctively inclined to support
wndidiatos — Rabin in 1992, und Bibi the last tine around — who they felt were
likely to take a tough line in any peace negotiations with the Arabs.
Twas never going to get the backing of many West Bank settlers. or of core
supporters of the Likud and parties even further 1o the right, But would need to
make al least some dent in Bibs hold on Le Russian voters who had supported
him by a wide margin in 1996. 1 focused first on Yisrael Ba “Afivat, the main
Russian immigeant political party. 1t had been set up by the iconic Soviet-era
reficvenik Nata Sharansky — or, as he was then known, Anatoly Sharansky. He'd
been an ally of Andsei Sakherov. an outspoken human rights advocate and, until be
was finally released and allowed to leave in 1986, a political prisoner in the gulag.
Though Natan's pacty was not going to offer 2 formal endorsement for any
candidate, T met with him to press the case for “security and peace.” the message
Td tried to advance with Shimon three years earlier. and co emphasize the need to
bring unity and stired purpose back lo the conniry. Though © think he world have
been receptive anyway. it didn’t hurt that he. like me, was a mathematics graduate
~ from Moscow's Physics aud Technology Institute. Ile was also a chess
alicronado. When 1 was rash cough lo face han eros the board, as [recall i
took him all of five minutes, and seven moves, to checkmate me.
But Talso made dozeas of visits to Russian community groups, and met with
dividual families whenever [ could, Often. 1 found myself talking ta older men
snd women wong the immigrants about the military details of the Grea Patriotic
War, as the Russians called World War Two. On a number of ocessions. accepted
the invitation to sit down and play on a sitcing-room piano. I think the first time [
ont sense tha ny of this might be having an impact was in quote from 1
Yisrael Ito’ Aliyah official in ao Tssacli newspaper. Though still stopping short ofa
fornal endorsement, the official was quoted as saying: “A month ago, young.
Russians thought Barak wees a boring, keN-wig soctalist party leader who docs’
Took good on TV and mumbles a lot... Today. they see him as a high-ranking
Israeli general who knows how to play the piano. The Russian immigrants like
strane, cultured people.” Except far the bit about mumbling, 1 couldn’t have
wished for more.
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The aes key moment in the campaign involved something T did sos do. This
Lime, the Israeli television debate eame earlier in the campaign, a mouth before the
election, Bibi, Yitzhik Mordechai and [were all invited, as the three main
candidates. But 11old the TV people had a conflicting personal engagement. |
figured 1 had nothing to gain by going. To join a three-way debate risked creating
the impression this was a gemine three-man race. and I still held out hope it would
come down to just me and Bibi. Besides, | thought a debate between the other two
would help me. Yithik knew Bibi well. He had served in Bibi's government
Though nat a natural orator, he was always forthright, and often pugnacious, in
making his points. And he couldn't stand Bibi.
Unlike the 1996 debale, this time there was a knock-out blow. and Bibi was the
ane left on the canvas. Tt was a bit like Senator Lloyd Bentsen’ killer riposte when
Republic vice-presidential candidate Dan Quayle compared himself to John F.
Kennedy in their debate, a few months earlier: “Jack Kennedy was a friend of
mine. Seoalor, you're no Jack Kennedy...” Bibi entered his Lelevision showdown
with Yiczhik Mordechai with much the same strategy he'd used against Peres. [le
went on he offensive. He fried 0 poriray bimselCas an indispensible bub
against those, like YiLzhik or me, who he said would cosy up to Arafat aod Assad
and endanger Israel's security. But Yiczhik was up for the fighe. Tle also knew that
anly months cinticr, Biba hirself had been exploring the idee of giving up the
Golan eights to the same President Assad. He didn’t actually refer 1 the seerel
‘mission by Ronald Lauder, or explicitly accuse Bibi of hypocrisy. But his reply —
and Bibi's visible discomfort were just as eftective. Smiling sardonically, he
said: “1 kuow your outbursts, and they won't do you any 2ood.” He challenged
Bibi to just “look me in the eye” and admit what he really thought about the future
of the Golan. The media verdict was unanimous. Mordechai had won, Which
meant | had won,
Though my American and British brains” trust had litte input into our day-to-
day campaign, they did play a role in the thrust and strategy. 1 wied to drive home
wo Things is we entered the twamwock homestretch m May. My firs, bowl
message was an echo of James Cacville’s central theme in the Clinton Presidential
campaign: “change. versus more of the same.” It had worked in the US not because
it was clever, but because it resonated with large numbers of voters. T sensed from
the start of the campaign tha it was Luc of Isracl as well. Different groups had
different pripes, and different ideas of what they hoped I would provide as Prime
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Minister. But fewer and fewer Tsraclis were enthusiastic about four more years of
Bibi. Bu I also was keen w convey the subsiarce of what my premiership would
be about. Damestically, I spoke of the need fo narrow gaps in education and
apportunity ticular, thongh not only, the contiouing disadvantige oP many in
the Sephardi communities who bad acrived in the early years of the state. 1 wanted
to try to build bridges between the secular and religious as well. My hope was 0
begin to reercate the “One lsracl” of uy youth.
Ia terms of policy, [ believed my primary job would be deliver “sceuity and
peace” in that order. I declared my commitment to continue. and build on. Oslo
and fo male a new push in negotiations with Syria, Deliberately following the
model Philip Gould had used in ‘Tony Blaiz's election campaign, we also
distributed nearly a million copies of a six-point policy “pledge card”. Tt included a
promise to hold a referendum an any peace deal we reached with Syria or the
Palestinians, as well as several domestic policy pledges. including an end to
discrimination against Russian imuigrants whose Jewish religious status had been
called into question.
Yet the most widely reported promise was tat 1 would pull out all tract troops
from Lebanon within a year. | realized that even among those who knew that made
sense, voices would be raised both in the Knesset and the fire against
withdrawing, As with the Bar-Lev Line before the 1973 War, the longer the
“security zone” was in place, the more difficult that politicians had found it w say
it was a mistake. Yet it had now been there foc nearly two decades. The main
argument for keeping it that it protected the security of northem tsracl was
undermined by the Get tha thousands of Katyusha rockets had been fired over it.
And in the low-geade war we wese fighting against Hizbollah inside the security
zone, around 20 scaeli soldiers had been dying each and every year. When I'd first
visited onr positions in sonth Lebamon in the cay 1980s, chad with the troops
and asked them how they were doing. the invariable response was: we're OK.
We're just worried about our young kids back home. Now. those children were
army the same outposts. fein the same danger, in a sliver of band on which
we had 10 elain, which we had uo desire 10 hold. and which was, at best, of
questionable security value.
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Id tried not to pey wu much attention 10 newspaper polls during the campaign,
perhaps because even the “good” ones, ta use Shimon’s phrase, had me with just a
narrow lead, with Yitzhk Mordechar's 10 or 11 percent still likely to prevent
outright vielory in the first round. Bul in the secoud part of May, our intemal
polling showed things were moving in our direction. In mid-May. they had me
above a0 percent. A final batch of intemal polls, on the Friday before election day,
had me just short of SO percent. But | wld our pollsters thal under no circumstances
were they to divulge the results to anyone in the campaign team. This wasn't just
because | wanted to guard agamst complacency. If was because, deep down, still 1
didn’t rust th numbers.
retreated to Kochay Yair on Friday evening. On Saturday, twa days before the
election, | had a surprise visitor, sameane | knew from Yitzhile Mordecai’s team,
He sd he ad letter for me, with fens of s proposal under which Yitzhik would
announce 2a elevent-hour withdrawal trom thie race. 1 still could not be absolutely
confident I'd win, at least in the first round. Yitzhik’s pulling out would help. But
A did win, | wanted 10 stat the process of assembling i coalition with a blink
slate and an open mind. Doing 2 deal was uot the way to begin. {didn’t aceept or
pen the envelope. “Go back to Yitzhik,” I said. “Tell him, as he knows, that |
havea lof of respeet for him. But his is 1 decision that he has to make on his own,”
“The mest day. less thin 24 hours before the polls opened, ull of the three other
candidates announced they were pulling out. Benny Begin and Azmi Beshara were
never going 0 affect the outcome, But Yitzhil's withdrawal very possibly would,
When he spoke fo reporters, he said it had been one of the most diffieul decisions
he'd had to make, but that he'd concluded he wouldn't get encugh vores t reach
Tis “primary goal” of defeating Bibi, “The prime minister was given a chance and
he failed,” he sand. “We must give Barak uw chance.”
1 ol up early on May 17, confident wed done everything we could to pul
ourselves in a position to win, but also aware, trom Shimon's defeat, that the
smallest of details, and the narrowest of muriams, might determine the outcome,
Aller the 1996 election, T'd learned of cases where Peres volunteers owside polling
scations in the Negev or the north of the country had left early, in order to make
sure they'd be back to Tel Aviy in time for the “moment of victory.” Now, | sent
ou word that all our volunteers musi stay in place until the polls bad closed. Afer
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Nava and T voted, we attended an event for Labor supporters north of Tel Aviv.
before flying lo Beersheva to spend the (inal hours in the Negev. I'd arranged for
Shlomo Ren-Ami fo za fo Kiryat Shmana in the north emphasizing, as
throughout the campangm, one determination to broaden our snpport beyond
Labor's heartland. The polls closed at 10 0'cloch. 1 knew Bibi would be staring at
the same Chanael One newscast as 1 was, each of us ready to pu tae best spin on
things. especially if there was no clear sign at this stage which one of us had veon.
But the exit poll findings came us a shock: Barak, of Oue Israel. 58.5 perce:
Netanyahu, Likud, 41.5 percent. It was a landslide.
‘The full impact hit me oaly when [ got to the fifth-floor suite in the Dan Hotel
in el Aviv, our election-night headquarters. My thee brothers, and Nava und ous
daughters, were waitiag for me. Leah Rabin. too. Our eyes leared up as we
embraced. My parents were by now toa frail to came. But Id promised ta phone
thee, whatever happened. “We did it,” Told my father, who seid mazaltov with &
depth of feeling which had become rare as bis health began to il. My mother had
always been a bit conflicted about my going into politics. despite her lifelong
bilicl that the ixsaes of polities mattered, expecially afer Yall had been cul
dow and killed for following the path on which T hoped to continue. Sill, | could
hear the pride, and relief, in her voice when [ said: “Remember. fm. I did promise
you that ran, at least 1d make sire to win.”
When we'd (inished speaking. Bibi called. He had conceded publicly ss soon
2s the exit poll was out. Tle liad also stunned the Likud crowd by inmediztely
resign as party leader. “Congratulations.” he said, sounding, more than
sything, tired. “1 aceep! that the voters have spoken.” | thanked him for taking the
trouble Lo call. T said T appreciated the contribution he’d made to Lhe country. and
that we'd meet in the next few days to discuss how best to handle the political
transition. Thanks,” Bibi said. “And again, mazaliov.”
By the time | got uf the phone with Bibi. the TV was showing pictues of lens
af thousands of people celebrating the results in the central Tel Aviv square, now
renamed in Rubin's memory, where he hud been murdered ney four years
aarlicr. Before leaving to joiu them, | fielded a steam of calls: from Gricnds, other
Israeli party leaders and leaders from abroad. including Tony Blair and Bill
Clinton, bath of whom nat only offered warm congratulations but said they looked
forward lo working with me us fried to move Israel forward and to finish the
work Yitzhak had begun
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AL the start of my brief remarks at the hotel podium befoce going Lo Rabin
Square, T had to call for quiet when T mentioned the phoue call from Bibi. “No.” I
suid, raising my voice to be heard above the boos, “we will not boo an incumbent
Prime Minister of Ismael... A short ime ago, | spoke with Prime Minister
Netanyahu and thanked hint for his serviee to the State of Israel.” Then with both
Leah and Shimon Peres at iy side — I paid tribute to “thar one special person who
had a unique role in our reaching this moment — somebody whi was my
commander and guide, and the person who led me into politics: Yitzhak Rabin. |
Wledzzed to fulfil his legacy, and complete the work he'd started. And | extended a
hand to “secular and religious, the ultra-Orthodox and the residents of the
settlements, 10 Israelis of Middle Faster origin and Ashkenazi extraction, 0
immigrants from Tithopia and the former Soviet Union, to the Arabs. the Druze,
the Circassians, the Bedouin. All, all of them. are part of the Israeli people.”
Te was aot long before sunrise when T ceached the square. As the ecowd shouted
and sang. T began with a line borrowed from Bob Shum. Tt seemed particularly
ape: “Iti the breaking of a new dawn.” I said.
But was {17 As | paid irbulc to Rabm in this place where anr beasts broke”
and dedicated mysel 10 completing the work he'd begun, 1 eould feel the
thousands in the square willing me on. Even in my more nuanced comments on the
talks with the Palestinians: the need to nchieve peace, but at lest for now by
discagging rather than joining hands with the Palestinians, cusuring we had
military and border provisions to safeguard our security, and with the stipulation
that Jerusalem would remiin our undivided capital, under Iscacli sovereymty. But
some in the crowd were crying posters saying “No io the charedin® — the stricly
Orthodox. Others were chanting. in anticipation of the negotiations needed Lo put
together a coalition: Rak fo Shas! Anyone but Shas! It was a reference to the
Sephardi Orthodox party, which in addition lo being more mumeed and flexible
thao other religious parties vn the issue of peace talks, had been the big winaer in
the election. It had pained seven seats and now had only twa fewer than the Likud.
1 dud not specifieally mention Shas. But | sad: “Cell you here tht the time has
come to cud divisions. The time las come to niake peace among ourselves.
whether we are traditionalists or secularists... We ust not be enemies of each
athe,” Paying tmbute to all those in the square who had worked for our election
victory, added: “1 know it would not have been possible without your support.
But Talso know it would not have been possible without the support many in the
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Likud. T appreciate that as well. And 1 undertake to be rash hasmenshalide shel
Aulam: Prime Minister for aif Tsraclis
Yet as fervently as | hoped to be able deliver an that pledge, | knew. even as |
spoke. tha actually ful ilfing it wes going to be much, much longher.
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Chapter Twenty
As Prime Miaister. T would sometimes be oriticised as emotionally buttoned up,
even stoic, and there was some truth in that. It was partly just a reflection of who 1
was: a kibbutznik who'd grown up in the early years of the state, and had then
spent most of his Hie in the army. Bt while if may not have shown, 1 fells chim
af emotions when | formally presented my government to the Knesset in July 1999
as Nava, our three daughters, her parents and mine looked on proudly from the
alkry. Even more so, when |entered the office of the Prime Minister. I'd been
there before: as head of military intelligence. ehief of staff and a cabinet minister.
Yet to sit behind the vast wooden desic and know that the buck now truly stopped
with me to become just te tenth person in Israel's history to ive tht honor
was very different
What T felt most powerfully, however, wasa't the honor. Tt was the
responsibility. 1 knew that srael faced two deepening crises. The first was
domestic. Thongh Yitzhak Rabin’s wssassin wis now in jul, the divisiveness and
hatred of which he was a product aad symbol liad not gone away. Not had other
ifts; between the privileged and disadvantaged, Ashkenazim and Sephardim, and,
erhaps most of all seentar md religious. The second, more imneduate challenge
was ou our borders. The peace process was stalled. 1 we were going (0 revive iL,
we were running against the clock. President Clinton, a key player in any hope of
inmming the promise of Oslo into seal peace. had only 18 months remaining fn
fice. Tu terms of [sracl’s seeuity, the Limetable was even less forgiving. Irom my
very first incelligence briefings as Prime Minister, T was even mote convinced of
what 1d been warming Babs for manths: without a political breakthrough, a new.
uch more deadly intifada was only a mauer of time.
That wauld have been reason enough to make peace efforts ny fisst priority.
Rut even as | was addressing the victory rally in Rubin Square, I sensed tha the
simple arithmetic of the election results would eave me no other choice. 1 wis
catering office with the largest electoral mandate in our history. But that was
because of Israel's new voting system, with separate ballots cast for Prime Minister
and party. 1 hat sysiem hud had precisely the apposite effect on party voting. In
previous eleations, most scaclis had chosen une of the two main parties. knowing.
that only they had a realistic chance of farming a government, Now they could
direcly cioose the Prime Minister, giving them the fusary jo vole m much greater
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umber for an arcay of small, issue-specific parties. The result: though I'd won
by a landslide. and One Tseael had the largest number of Knessel seats. even with
aur nacural left-of-center ally, Meretz, we would have only 36 Knesset seats well
ston of the 61 needed for a jority. Even if we melded a Gow smiller parties,
thece was no choice but to bring in one of the two larger ones: the Sephardi
Orthodox Shas. with 17 seas: or Likud. which after Bibi's sudden resignation,
was uow led by Acik Sharon, and had 19.
Tt wasn't just a math problem. It had a critical policy implication. IF | wanicd 10
tackle the domestic challenge to reassert the values of secular-led democratic
government over increasingly assertive religious involvement in our day-to-day
politics — that would men choosing Likud over Shs. But it would also signal the
effective end of the peace process. Even though Acik assuced me privately that be
understaad my determination to reopen peace efforts with Arafat and Hate al-
Assad. 1 hnew Arik. The path toward peace agreements, assuming they were even
possible, would be Lough. Soaner oc later — and certainly if we faced the need to
consider painful compromises in the negotiations I was certain that Arik would
set as a kind of opposition from within. That was why, over the angry opposition
of Merete leader Yossi Said, 1 decided Lo go with the Sephardi Orthodox pany. |
realized that even Shas might walk out if the scale of any land-for-peace
comessions proved foo Ingh. But it was the leas! extreme of the major religous
patties on the question of peace with the Palestinians. In uy conversations with the
party's spiritual leader and guide. the 79-year-old rabbi and Talmudic scholar
Ovadia Yosef, 1 was struck by his intelligence, erudition and subtletly of thought
but, above all, his commitment to the cure Jewish principle of sauctifying human
life over the specifics of Oslo redeployments, where his inclination seemed to be to
trust the judgment of those with the experience and expertise to evaluate the
security implications,
To Merete's additional consternation, included two smaller, right-of-center
Orthodox parties in the coalition. It was not just to make good on my pledge to be
Prime Minister for aff Israchs. Knowing that [ was going to pul top parity on the
peace process, | wanted to avoid an undiluted lefi-of-centre, seeular thrust 10 the
‘government. When I'd stood in front of the tens of thousands of cheering
supporters in Rabin Square after the election, [ thought ta myself: they fhinlc that
wilh Bibi gone, peace is around the corer. | wanted a coalition broad enough w
keep Meretz. and Labor ministers as well, from forgetting a crucial fact: the
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compromises thal we might have to contemplate during peace negotiations were
still anathema to many other Israelis.
+ 0s a
Syria was always my first negotiating priority. as it had been for Rabin and. for
a brief period, Bibi as well. This was not just because the shape of a final
agveemient with the Syrians was clearer, 10 both sides, than with the Palestinians. It
was because 1 was determined to make good on the main specific policy pledge of
my campaign; to bring our troops home from | ehunon. No matter whl the
increasingly emboldened fighters of Hizballah ssid publicly, our withdrawal would
be bad news (or them. IL would deprive them of their “anti-vecupation” rationale
for firing Kutyushas into towns and settlements in northern Israel, and free us
politically wo sirike buck bind if thal proved necessary. 11 was clear lo me that
Tlizbollah would Ley Ww make the withdrawal as difficult for us as possible. Bul the
real power in Lebanon rested with the Syrians, whe, along with Iran, were
Hazbollah's main backers. 10we conlel get a peace agreement with Assad, there
soemed every reason Lo hope be would rein in 1lizbollab, and perhaps apen the way
to a peace treaty with Lebanon as well
Still, there was no way of hiding an additions] atraction in getting a deal with
Syria first: it would increase our negotiating leverage with the Palostinians. | hat
would certainly not be lost on Yasir Arafat — one reason that 1 realized the
importance of an early meeting with him, to convey my commitment fo keeping
the Oslo process alive, snd, i possible, achieving u full sud fal Israchi-Palestinian
peace
Twent to see Arafat a few days after taking office. We met for well over an
hour at Erez, the mam crossing point mio Giza, 11 was swelteringly hot inside. At
Teast J was in an ordinary business sui, but | couldn’ help wondering how Arafat
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was coping in his trademark military uniform. Still, the mood music going into the
meeting was encouraging. Aller the election, Arafat had tried Lo use his ties with
the ayatallahs in Iran to get them to release 13 members of the tiny Jewish
comity in Shia: who bod been aited on patently absurd weeusations of spying
for the “Zionist régime.” Iran had told him no. Given its support for Tizbollah, and
its serial diatribes about destroying the State of Israel, this was hardly a surprise.
But it was a gesture nonetheless, and 1 wld him [appreciated it. 1 also arrived with
a gill: & leather-bound volunie with both the Lichrew Bible and Koran. | began our
meeting with what I felt 1 most needed him to hear: that both of us were trying to
achieve something hugely important, nothing Tess than a new relationship between
sractis and Palestinians based ou trust. As would discover in the mouths shoed —
25 Yitzhak had found as well — Arafat cesponded warmly to such geaeral appeals
af principle. He replied that he viewed me a5 a partner, and a friend. But the key
ssc of substance — the difference between how [envisaged taking Oslo forward
and what he wanted — was impossible to avoid.
T emphasized that 1 was committed to the further Wye River summit
redeployments Bibi which hid agreed, although not mplamented, as well as 1o
celease of Palestinian prisoners agreed aL Wye. Yet then came the more difficult
part: explaining ny view of how we could best move toward a full peace
agement. | sand [was convined the prospects would be much beller if we
delayed the sedeployments and brought forward the start of the weal negotiations:
on “permanent-starus™ issues like final borders. setdlements. Jerusalem. refigees. In
any case. | said, ['d need a few months for a thorough assessment of the issues
involved, and to reach a seuled view with my negotiating team ou how w proceed.
Arafat seemed to accept the idea of a pause for reflection and planning. But be held
firm in his opposition to any further delay in the Wye redeployments. More
worryingly for the kmyer=ierm prospects of un agreement, he imored lagether
my suggestion that we move ahead toward the permanent-status talks.
Speaking to reporters. [ was careful to accentuate the positive. 1 said the reason
Pd come fo see Arif so soon was because of the importance | attached to his role
in “shaping peace in the Middle Last” I said [ would nal wever in conlinuing oa
the path which Rabin and he and begun. And while the security of Israel would be
my paramount cancem in negotiations, “1 also want each Palestinian to feel
secure.” Buth sides, { said. had suffered enough. The open question, however, was
whether Ziad done enough to persuade Arafat that his exclusive focus on
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cedeployments — on anly the Jand part of a land-for-peace deal — meant we risked
ignoring the core issues that would determine whether a full peace agreement was
achievable,
More urgently, | knew from onr diplomats in the US that the Americans would
nol necessarily be receptive 10 a futher dely in moving ahead with Oslo, even it it
meant focusing: on trying to make peace with Syria. That made my first visit to see
President Clinton as Prime Minister especially important,
PE
Twas billed ss a “working visit” and work we did. Aller a gals dinner for Nava
and me in the White Ilouse, we helicoptered to the presidential retreat at Camp.
David. President Clinton and 1 spent more than 10 hours discussing shared security
chillenges in the Mickle East, especially terronst groups and states lke Iran that
were backing them, and. of course, low best lo move forward our efforts lo
negotiate peace, These face-to-face meetings set a pattern that would last
throughout the time he and | were in office. On almost all key sues, my
preference was lo deal dircetly with the President, something | kuow sometimes
frustrated other senior US negotiators like Secretary of State Madeleine Albright
and Mideast envoy Dennis Ross, This was nat out of any disrespect for them, 1
was because the decisions on which negotiations would suceced or fail would have
10 be made at the top, just as President Clinton and T would ultimately carry the
responsibility, or the blame, for errors, missteps or missed opportunities.
Our first meting ran anil three in the moming. When the President asked me
how [ saw the peace process going forward, he smiled, in obviously relief. at my
answer; | wanted to move quickly. He had only a limited time left in office, und 1
was detenmmied Thal we not waste 1. Much is often made about the personal
“reliemisiry” in political relationships. Tou much, [ think, because the core issues,
and the trade-offs of substance, are what truly matter when negotiating matters of
the weight, andl longelerm nplicanons, of Middle Fast pice. SHll, chemistry does
help shen moments of tension or crisis arise, as they inevitably do. My first few
days with President Clinton laid a foundation that allowed us to work together even
when things wot tough, | benefited, 'm sure, simply by nat being Bibi, The
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president and his negotiating team had spent the previous few, frustiatiog years
Lying aliernately to urge, nudge and cajole him — and, of course, Arafat — toward
implementing Oslo. Clinton did finally succeed in getting the Wye River
spent. Bul il, loo, remained to be implemented.
Navas presence, and Uillary Clinton’s, contributed 1 an informal, familial
atmosphere. Before my first round of talks with the President, we joined Bill and
Hillary for dinner, Though | would work more closely wath Hilliry in later years,
when she was Secretary of State under President Obs, this was the frst time ['d
had the opportunity to engage in anything more than small talk with her. She was
ess naturally outgoing than her husband. Yet not only was she bright and
articnlate. She was barely less informed on the ins and ows of Middle Fast peace
negotiations than the President. She, and Bill as well, also spoke with us about
things well beyond the diplomacy of the Middle Fast: science, musie, and our
shared interest in history. What most struck Nava and me, however, was the way
the Clintons interacted with cach other. The scandal surrounding Monica Lewinsky
was still fresh. [ suppose we expected to see sigus of tension. Whether they were
there, we had no way of knowing. But what the twa of them did palpably hive ws
a deep respect for cach other's intelligence. insight and creativity in looking for
solutions where so many others saw only problems. It was inypressive.
Sill, there was fitrle smull talk in the long discussions | hud with the President
From the outsel, 1 wanted hint to know exactly what 1hoped we could accomplish
and how, in my view, we were most likely 10 get there. Twasa't tying to impose
“ground rules” on the President of the United States, something [ neither would nor
could do. Bu | ves explicil with him about my own approach te negotiations. |
assured hit [ was prepared to be flexible. But T said I'd be relying on two critical
assumptions. The first was that when we and the Americans apreed a position on a
specifi fssie, there would be no umilateral “surprises” — by which | me, though
didn’t say, things like the unfortunate American redefinition of Yitdhak's “pocket
deposit” assurance regarding the Golan. The second assumption. I know. may
seem avealy legalistic. 11 was thir, until and unless we reached a full nd foal
agreement with either Sycia or the Palestinians, any Iscaeli negotiating ideas ve
proposals would nor be binding. If no agreement was reached. they would become
null and void. | wanted to avoid a situation. as had happened so often in past
negotiations, where an Isracli proposal was ejected by the Acab side but then
treated as the opening position ia the expectation of further concessions in later
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Lalks. T did realize that, “all and void” of not, our proposals or suggestions would
ool simply disappear from memory. But T felt the point of principle was essential if
Israel was going to be uble to consider the kind of far-reaching concessions which
Final presce deals might require.
In the end, 1 realized thal we might simply discover thal Assad, and certainly
Arafat, were not willing or ready to make peace. We might, initially at Jeast. have
to settle for i mare incremental step. “Right here in Camp David, Bem, Sadat und
Carter couldn’ complete the process.” | poinied oul. “They signed a “framework
agreement’ and it cook months of further diplomacy to reach a peace treaty. Maybe
we'll end up doing the same.” But | told the President [was convinced that if we
didn’ sry 10 got agreements, we'd hve no way of knowing whether the will lo
make peace was there on the other side. Assad, T suspected, was the more likely lo
reciprocate, That wis a major reason [wanted to start our efforts with him, Rut so
Far, his ee intentions had never been tested, beyond his obvious determination lo
et back the Golan. Nor had Aralau's, beyond his focus on the detail and exient of
West Bank redeployments.
President Clinton did not objeet fo an carly effort fo reopen our efforts with the.
Syrians. Bu he was worried abou the effects of ignoring the already-creaking
prospects of fulfilling the promise of Oslo. [t we were going to delay focusing on
that, Clmtan told me, he needed to be able to assure Arafit the wait would be
worth his while. What could we give the PLO leader in returu for putting off the
Wye redeployments further, he asked. And then, the real question on his mind:
“Ehud, when we get to the final redeployment and a pesce deal, how much of the
West Bank are you prepared o band back?”
1 simply didn't know at this stage. Much would depend on whether we could be
sure Arafat could or would deliver a final peace. But even if 1 had known, 1 would
Iusve been reluctant to name a precise percentage. Though | bd full trust in
President Clinton, | knew that everything lie and 1 said would be shared with au
Teast a few of his closest palicy aides and negotiators, Sooner or later, ward would
get 10 Arafat, When we did begin negotiations, he'd take whitever number | give
48a mere starting point. Sul, 1 knew | had to signal the President that [ was serious
about negotiating with Arafat when the time came. I also knew the main source of
Ins cance, In order to et the agreement at Wye, the President had sumed on to a
provision that the dimension of the third aud fival redeployment phase would be
determined by Tsrael alone. By that stage, when we got there, Arafat would have
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control of something like 40 peccent of the West Bank. That meant - at least in
theory — that Teac] could limit phase-three to a mere token pullout, leaving the
Palestinians with less than half of the territory.
“1 dont know what percentage, exactly.” | replied. “Rut one of my cabine!
ministers thinks that a formula of 70-10-20 would work, meaning 70 percent for
the Palestinians, ten percent to allow us to retain and secure the largest of the
settlement blocs, and the rest to be worked out in further talks.” When he nodded, 1
added: “Peres thinks it could end up ai 80-20, and says be thinks Arafut would find
it hard to wal away from geting control of four-fifths of the West Bank. But it’s
nat about the number, It's about the area needed for fhe major settlements, ind
whatever else is required lo safcgnard ow security. Beyond thal, we don’t need
single inch of the West Bank, and we won't ask for a single inch.”
I replied in much the sume vein when President Clinton urged me to help kick-
start mew talks with Assad by Formally reaffirming Yitduale's “occ! deposit” an
the Golan Ucights. As with the Palestinians, | was ot going lo cede a major
negotiating card our only real negotiating card before we had any indication
Assad was serious about making peace. But | did feel 1 wis necessary to reassure
Clinton tliat £ was serious. 1 wld him that, i and when the Syrians showed real
sigas of readiness to address oir needs in a peace agreement, | would reaffirm the
“pocket deposit.”
1d cone to Washinglon hoping that President Clinton would be with me on the
‘main issuss of substance. Buc what [ needed most at this point was his support on
the procedural decisions [d made in order 10 et fo real peace neatiations:
ngnging with Syria first, and shifting the cmlissis on the Palestinian track away
from the redeployment toward the core permanent-status issues we'd have ©
resolve in order to get u peace agreement. What emerged from my first meetings
with President Clinton was essentially # trade-off. He knew | wanld be ready lo
make concessions in pursuit of genuine peace. [ was confident that on the route
that [ was proposing fo take, he would have my back
But what | couldn't be sure of was whether my own govemment would have
ty back. On paper. we had a comfortable Knesset majority: 75 out of the 120
seats. But 1 knew it was inherently vulnerable. both ro friction between the
Orthodox parties and assertively secular MK from Meretz and inside 1 abor, and
10 possible defections over the concessions we might have 10 consider in peace
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acgotiations. The ist stirrings of discontent had begun even before T went to see
Clinton. On the basis of my commitment merely to #5 for peace, Arik Shacon had
presented a no-confidence motion in the Knesset. If was never oing to pass. But
any diay ler 1d mde him Dterior Minister, Natan Sharansky let 1 be known he
was going 10 vole against us. TT didn’t. Le stayed away (rom the chamber, in
effect abstaining. Bur I'd been put on notice.
1 dd lose my first coahnon parmer in September; the small United Torh
Judaism prsty. with five Knesset seats. 1 wasn’L over land-for-peace. In an echo of
a similar crisis that brought down the government during Rabin’s first spell as
Prime Minister in the 1970s, it was over a violation of the Jewish Subbath, It
wre out hat Israel's state ekoctric company hid boon transporting i huge siam-
condensation machine from the manufacturing site near TTaifa 10 a power plant in
Ashdod. The unit was the size of u small apartment. It weighed 100 tons, I
couldn't be driven across the country without bringing weekday traffic toa
standstill. The obvious solution was to do it when road use was lightest, on
Shabar. Precisely the same procedure had been followed — 24 rimes — under Bibi.
But when [asked a United Torah Judaism leader why he'd seemed happy when
Likud had waved it through. he replied: “Past sins cannot pardon future ones.” Eli
Suissa, one of the Shas ministers in the cabinet. took his side, saying: “Tvery hour
1s aod for the keoping of Shabbat” Most other misisters agreed with me that we
should stand firm. So 1 did. But U1 walked out of the government. Shas did
remain. Buc I was now increasingly certain that at some stage its ministers, too.
would leave.
Ia the midst of the Sharanksy rebellion, Haim Ramon, who was the minis in
ehacge of liaising with the Knesset, insisted T “punish” him for his political
erandstandiag. “You should fire Sharansky. Act like a leader!” I just laughed. “The
conlition docsn’| need a leader.” | ephied. “10 needs therapy.” In truth, [suspected
tha if we ever gol near 10 a peace agreement with Assad oc Asafa, even Lhecapy
‘might not help. But that was a main reason that 1'd promised a referendum on any
Tina pace deals. | believed that in the choice between concessions, even pamful
anes, and a genuine peace deal with Sytia or the Palestinians, by Gar most [sraclis
would chocse peace.
relied on a strong. close team around me, people | knew well and who shared
my determination 10 stay focused on the central goal: tw put lsraed in a position
where ifs citizens could be given that choice. T made Danny Yatom, my former
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sayeret deputy. my chiel of stall. The aceotiating team also included Uri Saguy,
former head of military intelligence: Gilad Sher, a gifled lawyer I'd known for a
quarter of a century and who had been a company commander in my armored
brigacke fu the 1970s: ancl Avmman Lipkin, the pansion commander at Chinese
Farm and my successor as ramatkal when 1 lell the army. Also, Shlomo Ben-Ami,
the Morocean-born. Oxford-educated historian and diplomat who had run against
me for the Labor leadership. Shlomo liad a gif for systematic anelysis and keen
judgement, especially on scourity issucs, which | highly valued
Tt did not escape the attention of Israeli commentators. or other politicians, that
almost all of them were former soldiers whom °d known from my time in uniform,
But thal observation missed w more important point: we were all members of the
“generation of 1967 and 1973.” We had been soldiers ducing the Six-Day War. Tn
the years immediately after it, Tike almost all Israelis, we had allowed ourselves ta
believe that our victory had been so comprehensive, and so quick, that any thecal
Irom the defeated Arab states was gone for good. We assumed that inevitably.
inexorably, they would realize they needed to sue for peace. and that there was no
puticilar urgeney on our pert fo do anylhing more tan wail. Then, on Yor
Kippur 1973, all of that had been turaed on its head. We had not only learaed the
lessons, of 1973. We had internalized them. Even had we not known of the danger
oF new Palestmim campaign of terror, the option of simply walching and waiting
— and assuming that our military strength, which was now even greater, could
‘make events around vs stand still - would not have made sense to us. Besides, as T
remarked to Danny and others, to do so would run against the founding purpose of
Zionism: 10 establish a state where Jews would no longer be vietims of events, but
would take control of their destiny and try to shape them.
Pr
Yer making peace, like making war, takes two. Much as I'd wanted to begin
with Syria, nnlil well into the autumn of 1999 President Assid was holdmyg firm on
bis insistence that without our “deposit” without a prior agreoment that he'd set
back the Golan, there could be no substantive progress. This was particularly
frustrating because [ was getting reports from our intelligence services, and
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Western envoys who had seen the Syrian president, that Assed’s many years of
health problems had le him almost skeletally frail, even at times disoricuted.
Even my own negotiating team urged me to concentrate on the Palestinians
stead. President Clinton kept stressing the importance of showing Arafat ul feast
some movement on the Oslo font. In September 1999, 1 took a first, signilicant
step in that direction. | agreed to a timetable that would deliver the We
redeployments by the end of January 2000, while alsa committing us 1o negotiatmg
4 fesmework agreement, on the model of the Begin-Sadt Camp David accords, on
the “permanent-starus” peace issues. In early November. I joined Clinton and
Arafat for tall around un event in Oslo a deliberate echo of the optimism with
which the peice process had began, held on the fourth nniversary of Rabins
assassination. Both Leah Rabin and Peres came with me. Tis centerpiece was a
memarial service, at which | eah spake very mavingly of the need for both sides to
finish the work Yithak bad begun, a responsibility [ pledged that we would do
everything in our power wo fulfill. Only Acafat struck a discordant note. Tle paired a
tribute to Rabin with a polemic call for an end to “occupation, exile and
settlements.”
After the ceremony, lie, President Clinton and I met at the American
ambassador's residence. [ was still struck by Arafat's public comments: by his
apparent desire. ar need, fo play to hardliners back home in what was supposed to
be a time lo remeber and honor Yitk. {didn’t raise his remarks direely, bu |
told him that each of us was approaching a moment of truth for the future of our
people. The decisions required wouldn't he easy polinically, for cither of us, “But if
we don’t have the courage 10 make then, we'll be burying thousands of onr
people.” Worse, T said. those deaths would not advance his peaple’s position, or
mine, by a single inch. When future Palestinian and [sracli leaders did finally prove
equ to the challenge of making peace, they’d be looking al the same conflict,
cequiring the same compromises. “The only differsace will be the size of our
cemeteries.” Arafat nodded occasionally. Bur he said liale, beyond saying that he
considered Rain to bie been a friend, und repeating his now-fanmibir,
aonspecific, pledge tw “do what is necessary” for peace
“The hardest part won't be the tough decisions in negotiations. I continued. “Te
won't be ficing each other. 1t will be facing our ova people.” We would need to
make the ese openly. honestly, strongly that the peace agreement we reached was
in the interest of both Tscaclis and Palestinians. And in this, each of us had a
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cesponsibility to support the othe. With President Clinton looking on, 1 steered
Adal wward the window of the ambassador's filth-Nloor apartment. “Look
dawn,” 1 said, “Tmagine fhat we euch have parachutes, and we're gaing to jump
together. But [have my hand on your npeond, and you are holding mine. To bd
sally we have to bielp each other... Aad if we don't jump, many, many innocent
people who are now walking the streets of Gaza and Ramallah and Ilebron, Tel
Aviv and Jerusalem, will die.” Arafat again just nodded, leaving me, and the
President, unsure whether anything 1°d said had struck bone.
The true test of that would come only when we got to the stage of negotiations
when the “difficult decisions” could not be evaded. Yet anly weeks atter 1 returned
from Oslo, the focus did finally shifl to the Syrians. President Assad suddenly
signalled bis willingness to resume talks without any preconditions — a message he
delivered first to my British Labor Party friend Michael [.evy, who was visitmg
Damascus as Tony Blair's roving Mideast envoy, and then lo Secretary of State
Madeleine Albright. Assad said he would send Syrian Foreign Minister Farouk al-
Sharaa to meet me for initial talks in Washington in December. ahead of a full-
seale, US-mediuied attempt 10 negotiate peace al the start of the new year.
ose
“The broad terms of a potential deal had long been clear, both 10 us aud the
Syrians. The danger was always that the process would get derailed. or never really
et started. due 10 damestic palitical opposition. Syria had « tightly state-controlled
media and am intelligence serviee concerned mainly with crushing any signs of
dissidence. That meant Assad’s main concern was lo ensure broad support. or at
least acquiescence, from top military and party figures. In Israel, however, every
sign of 1 concession would risk igniting charges that we were “selling oni” fo
Syria. The Likud and the political vight would abviously denounce the idea of
eiving up the Golan Ileights. even though Bibi had been ready to do just that when
Ie was Prime Minisier. Bul even on the fel, there wis lik: enthisiasm for
returning the Golan. There were (ar fewer Israeli sellers there than on the West
Bank. not even 20,000. But most of them, far from being religiously motivated
ideologues, were |abor supporters. And almost no Israel, of any political stripe,
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viewsd Tafez al-Assad as a vatueal partaer for peace. For years, he'd been a
constant, sneering presence on ous northern border, denouncing nat only Sadat but
any Arab leader wha'd shown willingness to engage ar negotiate with Israel, Amos
Ov, ane of our finest writers und a cultural icon for Labor Zionists, probably put i
best. Le said the Syrians seemed Lo thiok that “we will give then the Golan, and
they'll send us a receipt by fax.” The consensus was: forget Assad. Keep the
Golau. In Fact, before [lef for the US, the Knesset voted un whether it supported
my attempt to negotiate an agreement with Syria. We could muster only 47 votes.
14 shart of a majority. An opinion poll found only 13 percent of Israelis favored a
full withdrawal from the Golan.
Tie message | dew fom this was nf Hal we should give up on the elnces of
a peace agreement. Aflec all, before Begin and Sadat went to Camp David in 1978,
am almost equally tiny minotity of Israelos had been m favor of withdrawing from
the Sinai. Yet ance they had seen the other side of the equation — ul, formal peace
with our most powerful neighbor — Lhe opposition all but evaporated. The problem
1saw was that if we and the Syrians couldn't find a way to insulate our
negotiations from leaks, speculation and «swirl of opposition to our efforts at
home. we'd never get to the key issucs of substance
1°d been making that point to the Americans for weeks. At first. | tried to
persuade them to hold the talks at Camp David, ensurmg the same, media-froe
isolation thet had yielded the historic Isracli-Lipypl agreement. But Dennis Ross
teplied that the very association of Camp David with that breakthrough meant it
would be i non-starter for President Assad. { then sugested we consider sites
ouside of the US: NATO's neerlik air base in Turkey, for insiame, a British base
in Cyprus, an American naval ship in the Meditercaoean. Even, hal jokingly. an
abandoned missile silo in South Dakota. Yet the point I was making was serious, ia
act eritical, | believed if the talks were gong [0 have # chance.
Ia the end. the Americans settled on a beawiful, and undeniably remote, town in
West Virginia called Shepherdstown. But from the outset, | was worried it couldn’
provide the kind of environment we needed. As soon us our phn linded at
Audrews Air Force base outside Washington, 1 got a call fron: the head of our
advance team. Tle old me the news media were already there and that reporters —
Israch, Arab, American and Furopean could be seen chatting with American,
Israchi und Syricn officials in the town’s coffee shops. {knew the press would have
to publish something about potential concessions as the negotiations proceeded.
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Whether the stories were true wouldn't mater, They would still make the real
bargaining necessary for peace far mose diffieult, pechaps even impossible:
also had doubts whether Assad was ready for real peace: embassies, open
borders. personal contact between Syrians wc Israelis, and ideally an
internationally backed free-trade manufactucing area on the Golan 10 give Syria a
tangible stake in ensuring the peace lasted. In earlier talks, under Shimon Peres,
Syriin negotiators had at ane stage brought a message from Assad, What did we
mean, he wanted 10 know, with all this cruphasis on peace. peace, peace? Sytia had
peace with Lf Safviudar, but without any of the trappings we were insisting on
Peace, in Assad’s mind, seemed to mean merely an absence of war, Plus, of course,
ting bck the Golan.
did, however, come ready to negotiate. Though I was still nol prepared to
vecantirm Rabin’s “pocket deposit” as 4 mere ticket of admission, my position
remained essentially the one [had worked ont with Yitzhak in formulating the
deposit: TAMNAM, “if all my needs ase mel.” Meaning that if Assad showed a
readiness to deal with fsrael’s requirements in a peace deal. 1 did, of course,
recom we wonld eve the Golan Heights, In addition lo curly-wamning
Racilitics. we envisaged an open border with a demilitarized area ou cither side, as
well as guarantees that important sources of water for Israel would not be blocked
ar diverted. As Assad knew, despile bis presunsbly feigned puzzlement about
Syrin’s srangements with 1 Salvador, we also necded the agreement to embody 1
mutual commitment to real peace: through elements like an exchange of
ambassadors and the establisament of the free-trade zone. As with the Begin-Sadat
pence, we assumed that our Golan withdrawal would come in phases, parallel 1o
the implementation of the other provisions of the eaty.
In our initial meetings in Shepherdstown, Foreign Minister al-Shataa showed no
mchnation even to talk about these ther ists. So on fhe sceand aflemoon we
were there, [suggesicd to President Clinton the Americans try to break the logjam
by dratiing a paper of their awn, It would detail all the issues in an eventual
angrecment, with parenthetical references fo those an which we and the Syrians still
differed. Then cach side could respond with a view loward narrowing fhe gaps
The President liked the idea. So did Al-Sharaa. Three days later, the President
presented the eight-page American draft. With hs customary eloquence, be
emphasized the need for us 10 use it as a springboard for peace, not 10 score
political points. and each side agreed to take a couple of days to look through it. Tt
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seemed to me we might finally be ou a path lo substantive negotiations. There was
obviously not going to bea deal at this round of talks, but T agreed with President
Clinton that when they ended, he could phone Assad and tell him that [had
confirmed Rubin’s “pockel deposit.”
Yet by the time we left for home, the prospects suddenly looked much worse —
for the reason ['d feared from the moment we amived. There were two major leaks.
“Ihe first came in an Arabic-languirge newspaper in London. Given the thrust of the
ory. it had presumably come rom the Syrians. Bu it was more annoying than
truly damaging. The second leak, however, was in the Israeli newspaper Hu uretz,
which published the entire US nessatianmue paper, This was imwelcome for us, since
it confimiod we wre ready 10 20 far in retum for peace. Bul for the Syrians, the
Fact the final-border section was still a work-in-progress, with the parentheses
prove it, created the impression that they’d decided fo negotiate the details of a full
peace without ficst nailing dowa the cetuen of the Golan [cights. Assad’s image as
aswongman, implacably tough on Tseacl, had been built and buraished over his
thee decades in power. The embarrassment of being seen as amenable to talking
about a Syrizn erbsssy mn Isiel without an agreement on the Golim striek me is 4
potentially fatal blow Lo the prospects for a deal, since it deamatically narrowed the
scope for the flexibility needed by both sides to negotiate. I can’t say [ was
surprised when Clinton phoned me when we got back to Isract to suy that Assit
had refused to send Al-Sharaa back. as planned, for a fwther round of talks in 10
days’ time.
1 didn’t give up, however. and neither did President Clinton. In February. at the
Americans’ request, | sal down with Danny Yaton and US Ambassador Marti
Tndyk in Jerusalem Lo deaw up a “bottom line” proposal on a withdrawal rom the
Golan Heights. Since I'd already emporwered Clinton to reaffirm the “pocket
deposit”, Can mo reason not 10 do this. 18 only beeanse of Assad’s Failing heal, |
believed it was the oaly way we could know whether an agreement was possible.
We worked on a large satellite map of the Golan and the valley below, and drew
aur proposed border in ved. We mnisrked out a strip of several hundred meters on the
far side of the Sea of Galilee. Jt included, ov came near 0, a handful of Sycian
villages that had been there before 1967. Buc we were careful to adjust the line to
exclude any area where buildings had stood. We compensated with slightly more
territory — by bending the border westward 10 give the Syrians pact of the slope
overlooking the lake, in what was now Israel. We also included the hot springs at
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al-Tlama, which I koew Assad had said he considered cightlully Syrian during talks
held under Rabin.
Bur the details med out not to matter, President Clinton ajreed to present the
map fo Assad in what we both haped would be a step lo reopens the path for
pesce. The lwo of them met in Geneva iu late March. Though the President also
came with full details of our positions on the other negotiating issues, he began by
telling Assi that | had agreed 10 the Syrians’ longstanding pomt of principle an
our future border: it would be “based on the June 4, 1967 line” before the Six-Day
War, Then. the President unfurled the map.
It was shortly after five in the afternoon in (srael when Clinton phoned me, He
sounded us il he'd been punched in the stomaeh. “Ehud 10s not going to work,” fie
said. “The moment I started, he tuned our. ITe just said: “Do I get my land?" I tried
ta get him to listen, but he just kept repeating; “No 1 get all my land?” According
the President, Assad would comtennce nothing less than being sble 10 sil on the
shore of the Sea of Galilee and “dip his fet in the water Clinton said he'd done
his best, and that was true. “| understand the effart is over.” I replied. “Probably,
he’s 100 Trail amd §11 by now.” In fact, Assad would dic of lenkema barely tso
months later. is immediate focus was on ensuring an unevntested succession 10
his son, Bashar.
When Demis Ross came fo see me im Jerusalem, [ think he expected to find me
more distraught than | Gel OF course, 1 wis disappointed. But {old lim | was
erateful thar Clinton had stayed with a negoriaring effort that had been frustrating
tor all of us, When | became Prime Minister, I'd assured the Americans that as
Tong is our vill scearity inlerests were protecied. | was ready 10 go Guth thin
any previous Israeli leader to get peace with Syria, and with Arafat too. I might
Hail, but it would not be for Tack of trying, 1 believed that even a “failure” wauld
tell us something: whether the other side was truly ready for pce. With Syaa, |
told Dennis, “10s sot what we hoped for. But at least now we koow.”
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My own negotiating Leam, nol to mention the Americans. assumed 1 vould now
Lun my attention to the Palestinians. Arafat was pressing for us 1 go ahead with
hase-two of the Wye redeployments, In fact, he naw wanted us fo add fhe transfer
afthree Arh villages on the edge of east kernsalem: Eizarie, El-Ram and, most
importantly. Abu Dis. since from these you could see the golden done uf the
mosque above the Western Wall in the Old City. I understood why the villages
were politically important for hin. But in practical terms, 1 also new 1'd have to
secure the support of the cabinet and the Kugsset for what the Likud, and the main
religious parties too, would interpret as a first step foward “handing back
Jerusalem.”
For me. this underscored the problem at the heart of Oslo. We were trans erring
land to Arafat. yet still without any serious engagement from the Palestinians on
the “permanent-status” questions, ike the furture of Jerusalem, that were critical to
the prospeets for real peace. They were eitical, in Fact, even Lo reaching a
Iramework ageeement, or a declaration of principles. as a basis for a final teeaty. T
probably should have seen the crisis-ridden spring of 2000 as a harbinger of the
diflieuliics when we rally gol (0 that stage. | did mike a frst major effort 1o find.
compromise ground on the main issues. | sent Gilead Sher and Shlomo Ben-Ami to
begin back-channel talks with a Palescinian team led by Abu Ala‘a and assan
Asfour, the srchiteets of Oslo. But as 1 prepared to seek Knessel approval for
ceturning the three additional villages to the Palestinians, my main Grthodox.
coalition partners. Shas and the National Religious Party, as well as Sharansky's
Yisract ha "Aliyah, all threatened to walk out of the government. I did manage to
keep them on board, but only by geuing the Knesset vole classified as & no-
confidence motion. That meant that if we lost, the government would fall and there
would be new elections. That was something none of them wanted. They feared
that Arik and the 1.ikud woukd do beticr this time around, ind they would end up
with fewer seats.
Still, even thar didn't avert a different kind of crisis. The vote was on May 15.
For the Palestinians, this wis iso Al-Nagha Day, the anal marking of the 1948
“catastcophe” of the Founding of the State of Israel. Danuy Yatom wld me the night
before there were intelligence reports of large protests planned for the West Bank
and in Gaza. President Clinton immediately got the American consul ta deliver a
message lo Asafal, saying that the President expected him 1 intervene against any
sign of violence. But Arafat's reply was that, while he'd do what he could, he
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couldn’ puacantes anything. Tn the months ahead [ would come 10 understand what
that meant, because it would happen again. T don’t think Araft himselt
archestrated the violence, Maybe he couldn’ have stopped it completely, But 1
lisve no doubt — nov did President Clinton — tht he stood aside and let al bippen.
Even worse = since he did have control over them — his security forces, with
arms that Israel had provided as part of Oslo. fired on our troops as they tried to
leep order. All of this, while I stood in the Knesset battling to get approval to give
him te villages. As news arrived in the chamber of gunfise just a couple of miles
away, it was not just Likud or other right-wing MKs who were furious. [ certainly
wars. Yet | also knew thuf the price of losing the vote would be the fall of the
government. We did win the vote, by a margin of cight, meaning that | now had
Tull authority 10 retuen the three villages. Fuming over what had happened,
however, 1 called President Clmton and tald him [was gomye fo delay the
handover. T was not aboul to retur the villages under gunfire, oe reward Arafat for
breaking even his existing sceurity commitments.
‘That meant that prospects for serious negotiations with the Palestinians were
aiguin on hold, But anather, immutible, priority would probubly have delayed any
new initiative anyway: my pledge w gel our soldiers out of Lebanon withiu a year
of the election. 1 was determined to go ahead with it not just because Id promised
Israchs to do so, 1t was because | knew from experience that without setting a
deadline aud sticking 10 it, it wouldn't happen. | had been against kecping the
security zone (rom the stare. Over the years, many Israelis. both inside the military
and beyond, had come to accept we would be beter off pullmg our, Tt wasn't just
the itriional loss of Israch soldiers” hives, but the fiel that there wis no obvions
point, and no obvious end, lo ow mission there. Especially when major tragedies
acourred - like the collision of two Israeli helicopters a couple of years earlier,
Teaving scores of young soldiers dead — there was fk about s withdrawal Yet
there was always a reason 10 reconsider, to put it off: a ITizbollab attack in the
Securify zone, accusations of weakness from right-wing politicians, of siple
caution in the kirya. The only wisy 10 gent done was Lo dead, snd 10 do il.
My self-imposed deadline tor the pullout was now just cight weeks away.
Tlizbollah had already begun escalating pressure on our outposts in south Lebanon
with the abvious am of making the withdrawal as difficult as possible. They were
also targeting our local surrogates, the Maronite-led South 1Lebanese Army militia.
T'd been meeting regularly with Shaul Motaz, the former pacatroop officer who
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was now chiel of stall, to eosuse we had a plan 10 el our troups out as quickly and
safely as possible once the order was given. Bul complex though the operational
issues were, that was nat dhe most difficult part, The withdrawal had not just a
military am, bi erilical political one: to denude Hizbollzh, with full
international support. of its “occupation” fig-leal for targeting and lecrorizing the
towns and villages of northern Israel. Shaul and a number of other generals in the
Airy ied 1o make the security argument for keeping several small hilltop outposts
just noth of the border. But | insisted not single sracli soldier or emplacement
remain on Lebanese soil. Throughout the spring, we had been coordinating every
derail of the planned pullout with UN cartographers on the ground. ta ensure that
they. tov, recognized it would be a full withdrawal to the border. fulfilling the
terms of the Security Council resolution adopted after the 1952 Lebanon War.
Ordinarily, an operation on this scale would have been carried cut over a period
of weeks. Bul when we handed over a pair of military stcongholds to the South
Lebanon Army, and Tizbollah promplly moved in 1o take them over, it was clear
that even several days might risk chaos, and casualties, as we left. The head of the
northern command now supported an immediate withdrawal, and 1 agreed
Frustratingly. we did heve to hold off for a further 36 hours, in order to ensure the
UN staff on the pround could complete their verification process. Buc on the
allemoon of May 23, alongside Shisul Mois at a command post on the border, [
ordered the pullout of all [sraci troops, vehicles and other equipment within the
space of 24 hours. I then flew back to Jerusalem for a urgent meeting to secure
formal cabinet approval. The field commanders ended up getting it done in fess
than 24 hours, mostly overnight, without a single (saci casualty. lor nearly two
decades. our troops had been serving and dying on a strip of land on which we had
10 claim, no settlements, and for which there was no rational security need
Finally, we were aut,
As T should have anticipated. there were acousations from TTizbollab and its
allies that our UN-verified withdrawal was incomplete. At issue was a cluster of
villages where Lebanon meels Syd, known as the Shebi’s Farms, Buta | knew
first-hand. they wese not part of Lebanon. ['d met their Syrian inhabitants whea |
helped “capture” the villages at the very end of the 1973 war on the Golan. When
Syria now publicly supported Hizballah’s effarts fo wet fhe LIN to say the area was
in fact part of £ebanon, 1 decided to call their bull. Through the Americans, |
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suggested that Damaseus confirm in writing that this part of the Golan was indeed
Lebanese. The Syrians never responded
Equally predictable were the prophets of doom on fhe Israeli right, who said the
1ebanon withdrawal would bury northem Israel m Katyushas and in blood. The
reality was that in the half-dozen years following the pullout, the lseacl-Lebanon
border was quieter than at any time since the late 1960s. The main personal impact
af the withdrawal, however, was to remind me of why 1'd run for Prime Minister in
the first place. Despite the challenges, and inevitable setbacks and frustrations, of
my first year in office, 1 was in a position to act on what [ believed to be critical
sssues for my countrys future, On | ebanon, Ud succeeded. mainly because the
withdrawal was something we could do unilaterally, With Syria, 1d tried had to
‘pet an agreement. only to find that Assad was unwilling, unable, or perhaps tou il]
ta join in the search for a deal,
1 still recognized, however, til no issue was more important to [srsel™s tre
than our conflict with the Palestinians. | knew that sesolving it would be even
tougher than the talks with the Syrians. But the only way to find out whether peace
wis possible was 10 try. So an The final diy of May 2000, with the |.cbanon pullout
complete, | Mew to Portugal — the site uf a US-Euopeau summit — to see President
Clinton.
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Chapter Twenty-One
President Clinton and T met the nest moroing. My aim was 0 persuade him that
the tine had come for a make-or-break summit with Yasir Arafat.
1 suspected it would not be easy to convince him, and it wasn't. But [ made the
argument that if we were tw have any hope of moving Oslo forward, we now faced
astark choice. We were three years behind the timeline for starting work on a
“permanent status” agreement, and only six months from an American election that
would choose President Clinfon’s successar, We could, of course, pursue the Oslo
process along its current, meandering path. But even though Bibi had slowed it
down, that would inevitably mean Israel handing back yet more West Bank land to
Arafat in return for familiar, but still unfulfilled and untested, verbal assurances
that he wanted peace. bach snecessive Israch withdrawal redoeed his incentive fo
engage of the core issues like final borders. refugees, or Jerusalem. [ could nor in
oad conscience justify that, either to myself ar my country. The second aption
was the summit. | realized there was no gnaraniee 1 would succeed. But it would
finally force Arafat to negotiate on the core issues — before the departure of an
American President who had a grasp ot the all issues and characters involved, and
a personal commitment 1 convertmg the promise of Osta ilo # genuine peace.
The obvious political isk, for both Clinton and me, was that after convening a
summit with all the heightened expectations and pressures it would bring we'd
fail to get un agreement, Thoth I'd be more directly affected, however, it was a
more straightforward choice for me. Tn part because I'd been in front-line politics
50 briefly, but mostly because of what 1d done for the three-and-a-half decades
before then, | viewed the political tisk as just one of miny, and by no means fhe
most import “Thal wis wn obvious weakness in me aso traditional politician. |
would indeed pay a political price later on for having piven too little heed. and
‘perhaps underestimated, the reaction in Iscael to the summit and what came after it,
Yeu ried w iapress on President Clinton, there wee risks in at holding a
sumimil as well. along with the obvious reward of a [ull and final peace if it
succeeded. [Fit failed? Atleast we would know a peace agreement with Arafat was
possible. hn fel, amet the diplomatic dif since Oslo, it wars clear there wis no
other way that we cardi know
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Walking with the Presideat in Lisbon’s spring sunshine, T tried 1 summon up
a0 image that would bring both of us back to the starkly different ceality of our
contlict with the Palestinians, Only two weeks earlier, Arafat's own police force,
with weapons we had given them, bad opened five as | was fiying fo gel Knessel
approval for returning three villages that Ae wanted. Aller 1 took office, ['d ordered
a full-scale intelligence review of the security situation with the Palestinians. The
sobering conclusion had been delivered to me six months carlier: plans were well
underway by cells in the West Bank and Gaza for armed auachs against lssacli
soldiers and terror strikes inside Israel. “It’s like two families living in the same
house, and it’s on tire.” 1 said. “All of us are rushing to put it out. But there's this
veteran firefighter who avives on the scene — a firefighter with a Nobel Peace
Prize - and we have no way of knowing whether he’s got matches and gasoline in
his pocket.” We had to find that out. | said. We had to establish whether we were
all firefighters, and could put out the Names.
Clinton and 1 had gol 1 know cach ather well. In one-on-one conversations like
this, we called each other by our first names. though I was careful to address him
5 “Nr President” when offers were there. We'd been trough a lot together. [had
00 doubt that he wanted Lo put out the fire every bit as much as [ did. But 1 also
realized he had emerged frustrated. and bruised. from our last joint effort at
pescemalang: with Hales al-Assud. | was the one who had been pushing the
hardest for hint to meet Assad in Geneva, over the objeetions of some of bis closest
aides that it was likely to go wrong. Not only were the aides right. Assad had
ended up delivering an extraordinary personal rebuff to the President of the United
States. Now, | was again asking President Clinton for a summit, and | knew
Madeleine Albright, Dennis Ross and others would be highly sceptical. “T
understand they 11 have doubts. 1 understand their reading of the risks,” I told
President Clinton, “But 1'm convinced erucial issues are at stake, which justify the
risks. Let's move forward.”
Bur Clinton was skeptical, too. 11e said thar without some sign of diplomatic
progress between us and the Palestinians, be could see no way of holding
summil. With Arafat due to see him in Washington in a couple of weeks, he said
that I first had to give the Palestinian leader something: tae three villages, a
Drisaner release, or perhaps unfreeze tax revenues which we'd been holdin back
as leverage for al lost some progress on the core issues. Otherwise, Clinton said
he was certain Arafat would refuse to attend a summit. And even if he said yes,
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Clinton felt we would aed a drafl document with broad areas of agreement before
a diplomatic “endgame” could begin. T disagreed on tha. 1 argued that if we tried
to produce such a document, there would never be 1 summit, In fact, we'd never
eta dra) document worlh anything, “Neither side is going to commit itself on
issues like borders, refugees, or Jerusalem.” 1 said pointing oul that even in our
back-channel talks. the only forum in which there had been a hint of progress,
those issucs had barely been touched.
He did accept that “pre-negotiation” would never crack the main issues. But he
sill said that before he could contemplate a summit, he would need Madeleine
Albright and Dermis Ross to talk in detail with us and the Palestinians. “There had
10 be a firm basis fo work on, he said. Fven therm be said, he wes almost sure
Acalat would resist the idea of a summit. And on that last point, he proved right. T
spoke 10 the President by phone after Arafat's trip to Washington, “He thinks
you're leying 10 tap hin into a summit, and that when it Fails, Ull blame ki.” he
Lold me.
‘The very next day. the stakes increased dramatically. For months, military
ieligenes had been waming of the polential for violence if we couldn’ find a
long-term political resolution of the Palestinian conflict. But the seport which
landed on my desk on June 16, 2000 was more specitic. lt said Arafat had called in
Ins sceurity peaple and said: “My strategic understanding 1s that sracl 1s not
inlercsted in teaching a deal. Therefine, we sie preparing ourselves for a violent
and prolonged conflontation.” A few days later. we got an even more waitying
report, sams the security officers had been told ta begin “intensive trainmy.”
Arafiel wis quoted as saying: “Ihe Palostinian Authority is confronted by a strong
and dangerous Tsrael, headed by a Prime Minister who is not interested in real
peace. The proof of tha is that when he was Chief of Stat. hie was the only senior
flier to oppose the Oslo Agreement” | snmmoned my scenrily team: Mofie is
chief of stall the heads of military intelligence, Mossad and the Shin Bet. T told
them that Arafat was wrong. My inalterable “red line” would always be Israel's
ational and seedy mierests. Buta long as those were profeeted. 1 wasn’t just
interested in reaching an agreement witl the Palestinians. [ was determined w do
everything possible to try to get ane. But 1 also said that we liad to make sure we
were fully prepared tor responding fo “Palestinian violence and, af some stage,
Tall-blown teroe.”
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oes
A few days later, the “pre-endgame” around the summit began. Not in
Washington or Jerusalem or Ramallth ar Gaza, but in Kochay Yair, Nava and |
still spent almost all our weekends there. We valued the quiet, or at least the
slighty quieter, ime away from Jerusalem or Tel Aviv. Some of my oldest army
friends lived there as well: anny Yatom, as well as Shaul Viofiz and Li Dayan,
who was now deputy chief of stall. Newer colleagues, Loo, like Yossi Ginossac, a
Shin Bet veteran who spoke fluent Arabic and. after working in the West Bank and
Gaz in the late 1960s became one of the first Israelis to hald secret talks with
Arafe, burlding tp pesos] relationship with him. Under both Rabin and Peres,
he had been a valuable liaison with the Palestinian leader. Nowan under my
Premiership as well,
“The summit seemed to me more important than ever, but | lew tht anly
President Clinton could make it happen. Short of giving the Palestinians the whole
Hist of short-term rewards they wanted, including the three villages, [knew Arafit
was never going to be enthusiastic, But if Clinton was persuaded that a peace
agreement was within reach. T had confidence he would make the effort. 1 bad
allowed Gili Sher and Shlomo Ben-Ami to go to Washington the week before for
exploratory talks with Dennis Ross. Shlomo, us | knew he’d done in the buck-
ehaunel talks with the Palestinians, had gone beyond mything ihe 1 would or
could say at this stage in order to probe the edges of where an eventual
compromise might be possible. Now Clinton had sent Dennis fo Isragl, with
Madeleine Albright to follow at the end of the month, ind | bid to sue that
their impressions would be critical to bis decision on whether to bring me and
Arafat to Camp David,
We agreed to meet Dennis and his team at Danny’s house in Kochay Yair, By
the time I'd made the pleasant Shabbat-afternoon stroll from our house, a few
streets away. they were in the back garden sipping lemonade and munching on
Papo, 1°d met often with Dennis during my year as Prime Minister, and | lied
hin. Tle was smact, knowledgeable and expericaced. Tle'd worked under three US
Presidents: Carter, Bush Senior and now Clinton. No American diplomat had been
mare indefatugably involved m the search far Middle Fast peace. And whatever his
occasional fastrations, be also recognized | wis ready 10 go further than iy
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previous Tsracli leader in Leying Lo get that peace.
Tnew that he would press me w tell bit how fa that actually was. Ie didn't
ask directly. But each of his ostensibly theoretical questions was aimed at
establish whether | could give him enongh for a sunmmit to bridge the gaps on
key issues. Could 1 accept a “trade-ofl between sovereignty and time?”
Translation: could | tive the Palestinians sovereignty over a larger part of the West
Rane of we signed an agreement that would phase in their control? Could [accept
the principle of land swaps? 1his meant giving Arafit land in sicas bordering the
West Bank. or in the Negev near Gaza, to compensate. at least partially, for the
area we would keep for the major settlement blocs, What about applying my.
prisiciple of “disengagement” between [sacl sud the Palestinians lo Jerusalem?
Meaning Arafal getting control of the predominantly Arab neighborhoods in the
east of the ¢ity,
Dems knew my lng-standing reluctance 1o comma to concessions mil we.
20L 1¢al, final negotiations with ArafaL “We'll not reveal anything you tell us,”
Tre assured me. “We won't turn what you say inta opening negatiating positions for
Arafat. But if there 1s going to be a summit, the President wanted some answers.”
“To Dennis's frustration, however, | could give hit no specities. beyond telling
him: *“You know me, Dennis. You know I'm serious about this. Of course, we will
Protect our vital security and national interests. But the problem in muking peace
won't be us, ou the Israeli side, as loug as Arafat shows a capacity and « will Tor
decision.” The translation of thar. as Thoped and trusted he understood was that if
and when Arifar demonstrated that he wanted a comprehensive peace between a
new Palestinian state and the State of Ismael — a definitive “end of conflict” ws the
international lawyers would describe it — T would place nothing. except our secusity
and core national interests, in the way of getting an agreement
Madeleine Albight visited ut the end of June. When she came lo see me wu day
aller meeting Arafat, she carried a request from the Palestinian leader: two week
af “preparatory” talks before a summit. Again. | knew her mission was to bring
buck enangh progress for the President lo feel a summit was worth i, But agam, 1
couldn't give her what she wanted. “t know what will happen in preparatory talks.”
1 said. “We'll raise new ideas, which the Palestinians will reject, and ask for
more.” don’t know what she told Clmton, or Arafat, But Dennis called me the
following day. He said that Arafat had agreed w attend a summit, snd would leave
the date up to the President
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When Clinton phoned me at the beginning of July, however, he still hadu't
finally decided to hold the summit. [needed him lo know that, on my side. he'd
have a truly willing partner, ware of the political risk he'd be taking, 1 ike Dennis,
the President tried fo probe my position on land sways, und Palestiniun sovercignty
for al least some Arab neiglibochoods in Jerusalem. Finally, he asked if 1 would
rule out those possibilities if they represented the difference between success or
failure ata summit. | did not give hint a definitive “yes.” | said we could think
through thse issues logether. But when he phoned again. oa July 4 from Camp
David, 1 felt I had to go further. T said that, for his ears only, 1 was willing to give
him the assurance that, assuming; that Arafat was willing fo move foward us on
cone issues, | would consider limited, symbolic moves on both land swaps and
Palestinian sovereigaty in pact of Cast Jerusalem.
Clinton replied: the summic was on. It would begin at Camp David in one
week's lime, on July 11.
PE
“Two days before caving for the US, [brought my ministers together. “We can’t
Tow what will happen at a summit.” 1 said. “But we have a responsibility to give
Wa chance, and recognize the situation in which we find ourselves, we sit ilk:
and don’t eve try, we'll face an eruption of viokaee, and never know whether we
could have avoided it. If, God forbid, we fail 1 reach an agreement, there will also
be violence, We will face u new reality mare difficult than you ean imagine. But if
we do mage the suike deal, we nre going 1 change the map ad history of the
Middle Fast.” T reminded them it would be up to Tsraelis 10 say yes oc no. in a
referendum, to the terms of any agreement we negotiated. “If we achieve a
breakthrough, Um conlident they will do so, by i landslide.”
said 1 would hold fast 10 & number of principles. 1here would be “no return to
the 1967 lines,” meaning that we would draw a new border with the West Bank to
accommodate the largest settlement bloes, They were mostly around Jerusalem, or
just beyond the 1967 border. In practical leans, over the years they had become
part of Tsrael. Tens of thousands of people lived there. As the Americans and even
the Palestmian negotiators recognized, no lstach government, Labor or Likud.
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would agree 0 make them part ofa Palestinian state. The second principle was that
“Jerusalem will remain waited.” IL would not be cut into Jewish and Asab halves as
Tad happened between 194% and 1967. That, | knew, might prove tougher ta cary
through on, But even iC had lo concede i degres of Palestinian control in parts of
cast Jerusalem, 1 expected to be able to retain Issacli sovercigaty over the city. The
third principle was that there would be “no foreign army wes of the Jordan River.”
In other wards, if we did hand back at least the niajor part of the West Bank, it
would be demilitarized and we would have secuity conteol over the Jordan Valley
Finally, we would nat “accept responsibility for the birth of the refugee problem
and its solution.” Though there could be a “right of retum”™ info a new Palestinian
state, we would not agree to rewrite the history of the 1948 war by sanctioning the
resettlement of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians inside the State of Israel.
1 think it was the very fact we were talking about a comprehensive peace
agreement thet made it so hard for my Orthodox and right-of-center coalition
partners. They didn't see the aticaction of coming to final terms of peace. They
knew it would mean concessions. There would be a Palestinian state. We would
ive up the grea mujority of Biblical Juda and Surusia. While most of the
settlers would remain, since they lived in the major blocs, those in morc isolated
settlements around the West Bank would have to be moved. They saw the prospect
alla fim peace only in tems of what we were gvmg up. They dida’t see what we
would gata: nol just peace, and international recognition aud endorsement for it.
But normalcy: the central aim of Zionism. Jews living in a state like any other.
Ever since 1967, we had been in control of the daily lives of hundreds of thousands
of Palestinians on the West Bank aud in Gaza. That was bad for them. But it had
been bad for us too. Fifiy-fivo years afler the bith of our state, we still didn’t have
a permanent, internationally recognized barder. Rather than dealing with our
weonomic and soil issues like other states, we were best by intemal divisions
that were in 50 small part a result of our unresolved conflict with the Palestinians.
Shas, the National Religious Parc and Sharaasky’s Fisrael be Aliyah were all
threatening to pull out of the govenment because of the summit. Nothing [said
could change their minds. Sharansky was Lhe fist 10 declare bie was leaving. A fow
hous later, Shas and the NRP followed suit. If the Likud mustered the required 61
votes for the no-confidence mation it was introducing before 1 got on the plane fo
the US, the government would fall. [Fthe parties that had lef the coalition, with a
total of 28 seats, went along with Arik Sharon, it wouldn't be close. As if that
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wasn't enough, David Levy. my Foreign Minister. old me be would not be joining
me at Camp David. [le wasn't resigning. at least not yet. But he knew that the final
decisions at the summit would be mine, he feared it would fail, and didn’t want to
stu in the consequences.
None of this meant | wasn't going. Liven if the no-confidence vote suceeeded,
the new Israeli electoral system, with its separate vote for Prime Minister. meant [
would remirin in office, at least until the summit was over. In a nationally televised
message, | reminded the country that I'd been elected with nearly 1wo million
votes. I felt I had a responsibility. and a mandate, that went beyond parc palitics.
“I must rise above the politcal arguments, and seek out all possibilities on the way
10 peace gercemen that will cod the conflict, aud the blood, between us und our
neighbors.” T made the same points before the Knesset. T did. of course, want
parliamentary support. But 1 was acting on a mandate from the people of [srael. [t
was they, in a referendum, who would ultimately decide on anything we might
ageee. When the Knesset voles were counted, thanks 10 the fact two dozen MKs
abstained, both sides lost. Arik fell seven votes short of a majority. So the
government survived Bul those apposed to The summit gol move voles han we
did: 5410 52
There were several consolations as I prepared to tly out from Ben-Gurion
aport, Shas leuder Eli Yishai passed me an envelope on the tarmac, Inside was a
nole (rom Rabbi Ovadia Yossel. the Shas spiritual leader whom 1°d met with
privately afier the election and a number of times since. Ile wanted to wish me
00d luck, Nearly 30 reserve generals also issued «public message of suppart,
Perhaps most enconragingly, a newspaper poll found a majority of Israclis — 55
percent 10 45 — believed Twas right © 20 tv Camp David and that T had a mandate
to make concessions in return for peace.
David Levy came over w lk before | bowrded. “1 donb! we'll gel am
agreement.” hie said. [told him what | was telling other ministers, what I'd wold
reporters and, in fact what 1 had told Nava. “The odds are fitty-fifty.” The reporters
took this us coy, or defiberulely deceptive, So 1 udded thi it was not because |
Knew something they didn't, “11's because there are lwo possible outcomes, and |
don’t know which one will happen.” The gaps of substance were bridgeable. The
question was whether both sides wanted peace, and whether cach had made a
serious, strlegie docision lo go Gor it. 1d made that choice. Bu {had no way of
knowing whether Yasir Arafat had.
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Twas confident of finally answering that question at the summit. Camp David
was different from Shepherdstown. No reporters would be there. Mobile phones
were banned. Fach delegation had ane landline, We'd alsa be operating under a
time constant. President Clinton was due 10 keve for a G8 siminit in Japan on
July 19. The gave us barely & week. | did wonder whether that would be enough,
even if both sides were conuniteed to reaching a peace agreement. Yet] hoped it
would at least provide the possibility, as it had for Begin and Sadat twenty-two
years eaicr, to reach a framework agreement that open the door to a (inal peace
Treaty.
Not just the time, but the umbers were limited. We and the Palestinians could
have only dozen members in our negotiating teams. Some of my choices were
automatic: Danny Yatom; Shlomo Ben-Ami, whom I'd made acting Foreign
Minister m [.evy’s absence; Amnon Lipkin and Atomey-General Flyakim
Rubiostein: Gilead Sher and his chief negotiating aide. Gidi Grinstein. [also took
along a strong security team, including Shlomo Yanai. head of scatepic planning
the kira, and Israel Iason, a former deputy-head of Shin Bet. There was another
smportant, 1F less obvions, inclusion: Dim Mendon. A leading member of the Likud
before he'd formed the Center Party at the last eloction, Dan was not just a friend
Ile was a man of rock-solid integicy. with strong moral and ethical compass.
who pul principle over party. He was also i lawyer, and had been Minster of
Justice under Bibi. Along with Auomey-Geneeal Rubinsicin, | kaew I'd have a
gifted legal team if we got to the point of considering the specifics of a peace
agreement. There was another consideration as well. Both Dan and Elyakim were
right-of-center politically. 1 fell | noeded eis voices as a kind uf litmus for the
tough decisions. and concessions, I might have w consider if an agreement did
prove possible.
Twas not nervous us we crossed the Atluntic, though even those who knew me
best assumed 1 would be. Nava had seat me off with a list of dictary instcuctions.
almost like a surgeon general's warning thar Camp David might prove hazardous
tomy health. But {fell prepared. 1°d gone to every sonree | conled fine shout the
Begin-Sadat summit. T knew there would be periods of crisis and thal at certain
points I'd have to allow leeway for ny awn teain to explore possible compromises
beyond our set negotiating limits. Yet none of this altered my belief that holding
the sumenit was the right thing Lo do, nor my confidence in being sb to play my
part. [did feel a Inge responsibility. Decades after our conflict with the
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Palestinians had begun, seven years after Oslo, T was making an attempt, with the
participation of the President of the United States. to shape the final terms of
peace, | knew | carried the conflicting hopes und fears of Israelis with me,
And the odds really were 50-50. Either we'd come home with an agreement, to
be placed before the country in a referendum. Or we would know that, at least for
now, it was beyond reach.
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Chapter Twenty-Two
ICT believed in omens. [might have turned back as soon as we got to the
summit, We reached Camp David a hittle before fen at might an July 10, after
belicoptering (rom Andeews Air Force base near Washingion. When we arrived. it
was pouring with rain. The cabin assignments were also a surprise. Twas given the
ane that Anwar Sadat had at the first Camp David summit in 1978, Arafat got
Menachem Begm's. Sill the bins themselves, cach named for i tree, were kage
and pleasant. Mine was ealled Dogwood. It had a bedroom, two large sitting rooms
and a terrace. [ took it as a good omen that it was the same one where Nava and I
usd stayed during our visit with the President Clinton and Hillary right afler 17d
became Prime Minister.
With just eight days to address the core issues of decades of conflict, we got
down fo work the next moming. Clmtan began by meetmyr Arafat, #s | went
through the Americans” sirategy for the negotiations with Madeleine Albright,
Dennis Ross and Martin Indyk. Then I met the President in his cabin, which was
called Aspen, He told me that while Arafat sull thought [ was trying to “trick him™
into un agement, und didn’t think we'd necessanily got # deal. he did accept | was
serious about trying. My fear was still the opposite, that Arafat was not serious.
Yer my hope was that the isolated environment of Camp David, and the wide
public expecta thi we would accomplish what Sadist and Begin had dove there
before, would deliver the breakthiough that I believed ought w be possible. Tor
that to happen. T told the President, I believed it was essential that Arafac truly
understand the importance of wit was a stake, Not just the cost of fahure, bit
what was potentially on offer: the creation of the Palestinian state he sought, with
the full acceptance of Israel and the support of the world.
1 wish 1 could say I was optimistic when Clinton led the two of us inte Laurel
Tadge, the lurger cabin u few bundseds downhill from Aspen, for the opening
session of the summit. The scene at the front door — with me bustling Arafat ahead.
with the intention of allowing him to enter before me - yielded the best-known
image from the summit. Captus hy the television crews allowed info the
compound foc the eecemunial opening, it spawned a couiage industry of political
speculation and armchair psychoanalysis purporting to decipher what it meant.
Some sand it was an enconryang sign of “chemisiry” belween me smd Aral, a not
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unreasonable guess, since both of us were grinning throughout, Others concluded
that because each of us was trying to nudge the other to go in first, it was a sign of
underlying contlict; neither of us wanted to allow the other the privilege of
appeing lo be polite. SEI others, bizarrely, said tha if wis un orate Middle
Eastern power play. with the aim of demonsiealing that / was ultimately in contcol
of proceedings. In fact, it would turn out to be a singularly apt image of what
happened in the days that followed: a reluctant Aca. au engaged and expectant
Prime Minister of Israel. a smiling and hopeful Clinton.
We did begin on a note of optimism. Tn my opening statement, T said: “Now is
the time for us to make a peace of the brave, to find uw way to hve together side by
side wilh mutual respect, and 10 cereale a better fue for our childs.” Arafat said
he hoped that the peace Begin and Sadat had made at Camp David would prove an
auspicious example, “With the help of President Clinton, we could reach a deal
that is good for both sides.”
But it was going 10 lake more than noble words. The details of a peace treaty, or
even a framework agreement, were going to require negotiation. Both Arafat und 1
arrived fully aware of the shape of the “hard decisions” 1d referred lo months.
earlier when we met in Oslo. Ou his side. it would come down to whether he was
prepared for a comprehensive. final peace. A true “end of conflict,” with no get-out
clauses, no strings lefl untied, no further clams on either side. In concrete tenms,
this would mein abandoning his claim for & notional hundreds of thousands of
Palestinian refugees 1o resettle inside the pre-1967 borders of the State of Tsrael,
And what were Israel's difficult decisions? In return for the end of conflict, 1
would have to deal away the maximun possible part of the West Bunk, certainly
well above the 80 percent I'd quoted Shimon Peres &s suggesting when I'd first
met with President Clinton. I would have to accept the idea of land swaps, if
mecessary, in order lo bring the overall percentage as near as possible lo the
equivalent of the whole of the West Bank. T would have to be exible on the
arrangements to easure Israeli securicy oversight over the Jordan Valley. Aad if a
true pesca was really an the tbl, both Ara snd 1 would Jive 10 consider som
form of comprontise on the most emotionally and symbolically difficult issuc of
all: the future governance of Jerusalem.
On the first evening, we met as an Israeli delegation to discuss our position for
the days ahead. Gili Sher and Danny Yatom helped me koep a clear overall picture
of proceedings throughout the summit. Our secure landline was operated by a Shin
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Bet technician. T assumed that, one way or another, the Americans could listen in.
but was (airly confident we were beyond the electronic earshot of the Palestinians
kept myself flly informed of, but at a distance from, the specific work of our
five negotiuting leas. Thongh | contd not have siayed engaged with ull of them 2
the same time, | also hoped the arcngement would give them an opportunity 0
explore any realistic opportunity for a breakthrough and any sign of flexibility on
Acafit’s side — without committing me until there wars such flexibility.
Yet for the first coupk: of days of the summit, there was not only 1o sign of
flexibility. There was little meaningful engagement. Dennis Ross and his team
drew up a paper setting out the main issues. For those on which we differed, our
positions wore marked with “1 snd “P11 wasn't until sound midight on day-
wo that the we got a first look at the American drat. The main, unhappy, surprise
was Jerusalem, This crucial issue was nat marked with “1” or “I” It said outright
that there could be two capitals. one Tscaeli and ane Palestinian, within the city of
Jerusalem. 1 was uot opposed to the Palestinians calling Jesuselem the capital of
their state. But even in follow-up talks afer Oslo, whea Yossi Beilin and Abu
Mien hid explored avenues toward a possible resolution of the Jerusalem
question. the maximum understanding was that Iscael might expand the existing
city limits to accommodate the “nwo capital” solution. The Palestinians” capital
would be in Abu Dis, on of the villages Arafat bad asked me to hand bick i Vay.
“Ihe way the American document was worded suggested dividiog Jerusalem as it
now was: something ruled out by all Tscaeli politicians, of all parties, ever since
1967,
When | phoned President Clinton, he asked me to come talk. We sat on the back
tecrace of his cabin, looking oul incongruusly on & beautifully tended golf hole
installed by Dwight Eisenhower. 1 rold the President that after all the hours we had
spent together, 1d felt blindsided by the inclusion of a proposal on Jernsalem tha
went beyond anylhing we'd talked abou “IL was my mistake, he replied,
obviously already aware through bis negotiators of the error. Ile said that he'd put
pressure on his acgotiadons t gel the document imshed, and that Denis hadn't
had time 10 read it through. But it was alseady being fixed: the word “expanded”
would be added to the Jerusalem section. 1 was grateful for that, but told Clinton I
was concerned that even this “1 and P” paper might have the unintended effect of
delaying any real progress. “Since i's an American document, it gives the
Palestinians no incentive to compromise,” I said, suggesting that it might be better
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simply to withdraw the paper. Clinton's answer encouraged, and surprised, me.
“We agree,” he said. “The paper no longer exists.” It soon turned out the
Palestinians were unhappy with it too, but for another reason, On the lookout for
vithudatom of Arulit’s insistence thal Camp David was an Ismach “tap”, they were
convineed that the paper had Israel's fingerprints all over it. That wasn't true. The
one change we'd insisted on was because it misrepresented our position on
Jerusalem. Still, since Dennis had added the word “expanded” to the Jerusalem
soction in longhand, the Palestinians were convinced of Israel eo-authorship.
Ta fact, three days into the summit. the mood among the Palestinians seemed
mrcasingly amrieved. Nat just the Americans, but some members of my own
eum, were nrging me to show more “personal warmth” lowands Arafat. [did
always exchange greetings and pleasantries with him af mealtimes in Laure]
Lodge, but even there, 1 admit, that [ didn’t exactly shaw enthusiasm, much less
<bullience. Alter one dinner, when I'd been placed between the Palestinian leader
ad Chelsca Clinton, the President's National Security Adviser, Sandy Becger,
asked me why, rather than talking to Arafat, I'd spent almost the entire time
ehting with Chelsea. My response was only bill-joking: “Given the choice, who
wouldn't?"
It wasn’t only that [ believed a charm initiative would come over as contrived. 1
didn’t want fo risk mislcadm Arafat, the other Palestinians and possibly the
Americans as well, by giving them the impression | was satistiod with the progress
of the summit, or felt that we were heading towards any serious engagement and
compromise on the care issues. | had met Arafat many times before Camp David. 1
hac mace it clean in all of those meeting that, despite differences on avange of
diflicul issues, T did want a final peace agreement and that T was ready to consider
the tough decisions necessary to make it possible. At Camp David. [ was not
agguist meeting Andtiad ass mater of principle. 1 simply fell the time for such a
meeting, if il came, would be at the moment that we saw at least see signal of a
readiness on his part to negotiate seriously.
Sill, sven the sirengih of feehmiz among some of my own negotiulors, | fell a
respousihility 10 give ita 1ry. | told Yossi Ginossar, the former Shin Bet officer
who was closest (0 the Palestinian leader among the Tscaelis. to set up an informal
meetmge, 1 added, to Yossi's obvious satisfaction and surprise, that 1°d be willing to
have the meeting in Araflac’s cabin if that’s what be preferred. ‘The next aflernoon,
went there for tea and baklava. Abu Mazen, his top political adviser and the main
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Palestinian architect of Oslo. was with him, slong with a moce junior aide who
served the fea and sweets. At least this time, Arafat didn't take notes as we spoke.
The moad was friendly, We talked about a whole range of issues. With ony ane
exception: what wis really lppening, or what should happen, in the summit tafks.
1 found the exeroise disappointing as & resull. But Yossi Ginossac assured me it
would help the atmosphere, and would eventually translate into negotiating
progress. “L hope 50.” | said
10 wasn’t until day-Gour that real talks began, The Americans aranged for
negoriating teams from both sides on borders. the refugee issue. and Jerusalem to
meet with President Clinton, The Palestinians participated, but showed no sign at
all of arcadiness 10 compromise. Borders should have been the most
suaightforward. Assuming we wanted a deal, it was about sitting down with a map
and working out how to address both sides” arzuments, But Arafat's representative
in the meeting — the Oslo negotiator Abu Ala — said he wouldn't even discuss
borders without a prior agreement Lo land swaps ensuing Palestinian contol over
an area equivalent to 100 percent of the West Bank. Shlomo Ben-Ami did try to
find a way around this. He suggested the Palestinians anne that lo be the case for
the purposes of the meeting, so that at least there could be meaningful discussion
of the border. including the provisions Iscael wanted in order to retain the major
setlement blocks. President Clinton agreed tial made sense. He sid that without
talking about the stbsiance of suell issues. there wasn't goiug 10 be a deal. Lven
Abu Ala'a seemed receptive, according to Shlomo. But he insisted that he would
have to ask Arafat first whether it was okay.
On refigees, pretty mich the same ing happened. The Americans, sid |
assumed al that point even the Palestinians. knew that a peace deal would be
impossible if ve agreed to bundreds of thousands of refugees entering Israel - in
effect leaving the state created in 1948 with u Jewish minority. Bil when President
Clinton began trying 1 narrow down deteils of a compromise resettlement package
~ how many refugees would return. where they would po. and how to arrange
nlermational Francia] support for them — Abu Mazen insisted thit nothing could
be discussed until without a prior [srecli aceeplauce uf the “principle of the right of
return.” On Jerusalem, according to Gilead Sher, the President didn’t even try to
find commen ground on the care issue: sovereignty. Instead he used the formula
Shlomo Ben-Ami had suggested. telling cach side to proceed vo the assumption
sovereigary was decided in its favour. and to concentrate instead on how everyday
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municipal functions and daily life would be divided between Tscael and the
Palestinians under a peace agreement
When | convened aur negotiators in my cabin to take stack of the logjam, | was
setting more and more skeptical of finding a way to gel 10 actual negotiation on the
“hav decisions’ | assumed both sides knew we'd have w make. 1 old our team we
could not play that game. Lintil there was at least some movement from Arafat, [
didn’t wimt them suggesting any Israel concessions, We'd obviously get nothing
in return, The sunimit would fail. Despite my repeated insistence both to the
Americans and Palestinians thar, without an agreement, any Israeli supgestions
would be null and void, that didn’t mean they would simply be forgatten, ‘The
result is that we'd schnally be ing worse situation than before Camp David,
Politically, I'd find myself in much the same position as President Assad, alter the
leak of the American draft from Shepherdstown: apparently ready to consider
piving Acafal the geeat majority of the West Bank, without the slightest sign Arafat
wag ready for a [ull and final peace. But that wasn’t my main coneera. Tt was that
anything that we put on the table here would handcuff future Israeli povernments if
ancl when wn “endl of conflict” agreement became possible
Still, when Denis Ross learned from my negotiators what I°d decided, he was
trustrated and upset. He came to see me on Saturday morning day-five of what
wits loakmyg increasingly like a stillbom summit, “his sommit was your idea,” he
said, reminding me that the President had agreed wit over the reservations of a lol
his own aides. ITe told me that at a minimum, Thad to help give it a chance: by
ving him my true negotiating “red lines,” Kither that, or give my negotiators.
more keeway 10 explore compromises. | did not want to make Dennis™s job ny
ore difficult than it already wes. And [told him Twas still ready Lo engage fully
if we ever got to the real substance of a possible deal. “But I can’t do what you've
asked me,” replied. “Rol when Arafat is simply holding firm and not showing a
willingness even Lo lock for compromises.™
Fortunately for my relationship with the President — though not for the
prospects of an wgveement Clinton had considerably more sympathy with my
position after his next meeting with both sets of negotiators that afleruoon. Jl was a
return encounter with Abu Ala'a on territory and borders. Shlomo Ben-Ami now
produced a mip of the West Bank with our propascd breakdown mio the areas thist
would be controlled by a Palestinian state, the part Israel would refain tw
accommodate the major settlements, and tercitory which we suggested would go to
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the Palestinians aller a transitional period. The part we had earmarked for
Palestinian cuntcol was now a bit over 85 perecal of the West Bank, more than I'd
indicated to the President in our first meeting a year earlier. But while Abu Ala’
ad fold Clinton be would ssl for Arafat’ permission at least lo negotin, he
elearly hadn't received it. Ue refused Lo talk about the tap. or even respond Lo
Clinton's suggestion thar the Palestinians present a map of their awn, until we did
two things: aceept the principle of land swaps and seduce the size of the territory
we were suggesting for the settlement blocs. To Shlomo’s, and 1'm sure even more
50 10 Abu Ala'a’s, astonishment, the President exploded. He told Abu Ala"a that ta
refuse to provide any input or ideas was the very apposite of negotiation. It was an
“outrageous” approach. Le stored oul.
Tt was late that evening when the first move wward the “make-or-breal’™
situation [ had hoped for seemed to occur, though still with much more likelihoad
lbreak than make. The President decided the valy way 1 make progress was to
sequester pair of negotiators from each side overnight. Their task would be to
search honesty for the autlines of a possible peace agreement. They were to update
Arai unl mysel und then report 1o Chinon the ext day. Then, we'd see where
we were. | agreed to send Shlomo and Gili Sher. my former “back-channel™
negotiators. 1 knew that whatever guidelines I gave them. they would probe beyond
then, just as They'd dome in the baclechannel talks. They were negotiators. They
were also sma, oreative, badly wanted an agreement and, like me, believed it
ought to be possible. Though T would retain the final word to approve of reject
what they suggested, [ knew fhat anly in a legal sense could it be null and void. |
also recoguized, however, that we had to be willing to push further, both to find
out for certain where the Palestinians stood and to convince the Americans we
genuinely wanted an agreement.
Shlomo and Gili left a little after midnight for Laurel Lodge, Marme guards
were posted at the doors, with orders that neither negotiating Leam was to leave
until morning without notifying the President's staff. Mother Natuze provided a
Turther incentive Lo stay inside, since if was again bncketing down with rain. The
aegotiators talked not just through the aight, bul the neat morving es well. Tt
wasn't until ealy aftemoon that Shlomo and Gili came to my cabin to report on
haw they'd gone. As I'd anticipated, both of them had ventured beyond
concessions that | was ready to consider, al least at a time when we weren't even
near to a final peace deal. Taking the President's instructions to heart, they'd said
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they were willing to consider full Palestinian sovereignty over lwo Arab
acighborhoods in Last Jeruselem, and even some form of Palestinian authority and
control in the Christian and Muslim quarters inside the walls of the 01d City. They
add dropped our insistence on rac control aver the Jordan Valley, snggesting
that we hold on Lo only a small segcat of the bosder with Jordan. They had gone
beyond the share of the West Bank allocated to a Palestinian state on the map that
Abu Ala’ wouldn't even look at. Now, they suggested around 90 percent. But
when [asked what the Palestinian negotiators, Sach Lirekal and Mohammed
Dahlan, had proposed in eum. the answer was almost nothing. They had taken
notes. They had asked questions. The ane Palestinian proposal, from Saeb Frekt
was ou Jerusalem: Pakestivian sovertigaty over al the city’s predominantly Arab
areas. and Tsraeli sovereignty over Jewish neighborhoods. In other words.
division of the city.
Even though [ was concerned that Gili and Shloma had gone so far, especially
an Jecusalem, T'd ceached the point where 1 doubted that even that would matter.
We were novw in day-six of the summit, barely 48 hours from President Clinton's
deastnre for the Ge summit, md we were negotiating only with oursclves.
Koowing that the President planned to go see Asafal, 1 sat down and wrote him a
note — emotional not just because I did it quickly, but because of how deeply let
down [felt by the Palestinians” deliberate avoidance of a peace deal which, with
peuuine reciprocity, should have been within seach. “1 wok the report of Shlomo
Ben-Ami and Gilead Sher of last night's discussion very badly...” it began. “This is
not a negotiation. This is a manipulative attempt to pull us to a position we will
never he able 10 aeeept, without the Palestinians moving one inch.” | reminded
President Clinton that just as he was taking political risks, I was too. “Even the
positions presented by our people last night, though they are not my positions,
represent an additional risk.” | snd.
said T doubted there would be another Tseacli leader willing 1 engage in
serious efforts for a final peace agreement with the Palestinians after what had
happened bee. Unless things changed dramatically, | wis nol proped for es lo
thro out further suggestions, or consider painful concessions. “1 do not intend
allow the Tscaeli state to fall apart, physically or morally. The State of Israel is the
implementation of the dream of the Jewish peaple, for zeneration upon generation.
we achieved it aller enormous effort, and at the expenditure of a great deal of
blood and sweat. There is no way Iwill preside at Camp David over the closing of
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this saga.” T told the President that T still believed that we were facing a “momeal
of uth.” But only if he could “shake” Avafal, and get hie to sense the enormity of
the stakes an independent Palestinian state, versus more, and undoubtedly
deadlier, violence.
And if it did come to anned conflict? “When the people of Israel will
understand how far we were ready to go, we will have the power to stand together,
ufc, in such a stugle, however tough it will became, even if we will be forced
10 confront the entire world. There is no power in the world that. can foree on us
collective national suicide. Peace will be achieved only if there is a willingness to
negotiate on both sides, [am sure the people of Israel, and the American people,
will understand it when Ue details will be revealed.”
Clinton had alieady left for Arafut’s cabin by the time Danny Yatom went to
deliver the letter, But the President, too, was in a more sober and downbeat mood
by the tame thd meetmg was over. Lite tit night whe, baying now sed ny mole,
be joined me on the balcony of Dogwood. 11 looked exhausted. “I1 was the
toughest meeting I"ve ever had with Arafat,” he said. Clinton said he had told the
Palestinian leader til anly one side, he Istrelis, had so far been negotiuting in
good Gaith. I Arafal was not prepared Ww make a genuine effort fo reach an
agreement, then there was no choice but for all of us to go home. Now, it seemed,
bath the President and | were kit to wait and sce wha, if anything, Arafat came up
with in reply.
“ve been through bautkes, and danger. in my life,” T said. “But in teens of my
responsibility, today, for me as well, was prabably the toughest, Shlomo and Gili
went beyond whit | could live with. IT this offi can™ move him, then 1 beheve we
are lef to prepare for war.” [told the President he didn't even need to phone me
after hearing from Arafat if all he offered was some clever half-reply, Only if it
was serious und substantive. 1 also remmnded him that while he'd promised Arafal
that he would not “blame” the Palestinians if the summit failed, that had been on
the basis of negotiating in good faith. 1 hoped that, if the summit collapsed in these
emcamstmecs, he would keep to that standard,
Finally, | touched on an immediate concern if tie summit broke up. Fou months,
the Palestinians had been talking abour simply “declaring” a Palestinian state. The
Americans had insisted neither side should resort to unilateral action m u contlict
whose resolution depended on rues agreement. The Europeans had been less
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eaplicit. T told Pecsident Clinton T could speak only for how [would respond if a
state was indeed declared without a peace deal. “We will extend Iscaeli sovereignty
aver the major settlement blocs, We will establish a security zone in the Jordan
vitlley, und let them know thal there will be a hewvy price should they stack say off
the outlying setlements.” In other words, Palestinian unilateral action would
prompt unilateral Israeli action. “And the confrontation will begin.”
x ors
Clinton seemed, if not completely revived, considerably more upbeat when he
came back 10 see me un hour later. He told me that he had received the
Palestinians’ answer. The way he described it to me, Arafat had agreed lo leave
President Clinton ta decide fhe amount of West Bunk land that would wo ta a
Palestinian strc, i Fire he now fold me tithe was assuming would end up at
around 90 10 92 percent. The wade-ofT, be said. would be a limited. “symbolic”
land swap. Arafat also wanted control of the Jordan Valley. but had agreed to
begin newoliating on [sracli security needs there as soon as possible. Then, cane
Arafat's counter-conditions, which appeared to bother the President much less than
they did me. Tverything would be contingent on an unspecified, “acceptable
awa on Jerusalem.” And despite Clinans einphasis thal any meaningful
agreement had to include a formal declarativn that the Isracli-Palestinian contlict
was “over.” Arafat was insisting that could come only after the terms of whatever
we agreed were fully implemented
Sill. it was al lest step forward. Clinton scemed genuinely encousssed, and |
didn’t want to risk closing off this first chk of light. T suggested. for instance. that
we could address Arafat's reluctance about an “end of conflict” statement by
providing an American gurantee that the tens of the deal would be implemented.
Still, it very soon heeame char that any hope of real progress rested on by far
the most difficult issue: Jerusalem. Across party boundaries, even across divisions
between religious andl sceular, nearly all Israchs viewed the city as not just our
capital, but the centrepicee of the state. It had heen divided afier 1948. The Old
City, and the site of the ancient Jewish temple. had been under Jordanian rule for
19 years when our forces recaptured it m the Six-Day War, It was under a Labor
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soveenment that the area around the temples surviving Western Wall, left uncaced
for under the Jordanians, was cleared and stone plaza put in place for worshipers
at the expense of parts of the old Moroccan Quarter, Tt was under 1 abor, 100, that
srl unilaterally expanded Jerusatenn’s city fimits 10 take in more thas (wo doen
adjacent Acab villages on the West Bank. No Isai government since thea, Labor
or Likud. had deviated from a shared pledge that Jerusalem would remain Istael’s
undivided, sovereign capital under any eventual peace agreement.
Yet when [met Clinton the next moming in Lanrel Lodge. he insisted we hed to
find some room for flexibility. He said that, of course, Israel would retain
sovercigaty over the Temple Mount; the sife of the Western Wall and, above i, the
AlAs mosque comple. “Bul withonl dumging your sovereignty,” he rgued
“we have 10 [ind a way to draw a picrure for Arafat that includes some measure of
Palestinian control im part of the city.”
“Could you gree 10 Arafat having an offfec, maybe, inside the walls of the Old
City” he asked me. What ahout a foc of administrative control iu some of he
outlying Arab neighborhoods in ast Jerusalem? 1 replied that 1 couldn't possibly
amswer any of his questions unl and unless if was clear that Arafat accepted onr
sovercigaty over - and our national and religious conncetion with — the Temple
Mount. Yet 1 said 1 understood that we would have to reach some compromise
agreement on the city iF we were ever going to have a ehince of a peice
spgcement. “Bul its an issue that is difficult for every Jsmeli.” 1 told hin. Before |
could even begin 10 see whether there was a way forward, T would have to take it
through with my entire negotiating team, Then, we could discuss it.
1 med out 10 be the most open, serious, scrching discussion | was is part of
during all my years in public life. It began, on the terrace of my cabin. at two iu the
afternoon and went on until sundown, | introduced it by saying what each of us
already knew: Jersalom was the most emotionally charged snd polincally
complex issue of all. Our maximum position coming into the summit hiad been that
we wauld again expand the municipal boundaries of the city. as we'd done after
the 1967 wir, m order fo accommaodile two separate “city comenls.” One would be
in Abu Dis, just 10 the southeast of the Old City. almost literally in the shadow of
the Temple Mount. The understanding was the Palestinians would be fre to
rename the village, referring to it by the Arabic nme for Jerusakem: Al Quds. |
suid that we should use that position as a starting point, and disciuss how, or
whether, we might go further. All T added was the need to be aware of what was a
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stake. [didn’t know whether peace was within reach. T was still deeply skeptical
But if it was, we had 1 accept tha Jecusalem would be key. And if the summit
failed. for whatever reasan, what inevitably awaited us was “confrontation,”
Israel Hasson, The Shin Bet veteran, spoke first, He saw two chotees, Fither we
could retain Isrsacli soverciguty over a “united Jerusalem” with functional, day-to-
day autonomy for the Palestinians in their neighborhoods. or we could in effect
divide the city. “Divide sovereignty.” He did't say which he fvorcd, only that it
wis essential that we made the decision now if we could, however difficult or
reluctant Arafat was as a negotiating partner. If we waited, we'd end up having: to
deal with Ishimists: Hamas and Iskamic Jinad, Oded Fran, the career diplomat
whom 1d put in charge of frustrating, formal talks with the Palestinians fu the
months preceding the summit . said he was convinced that we should give the
Palestinians full sovereignty aver at least the “outer” Arab neighborhoods in Fast
Jerusalem, which had become part of the city only when we'd expanded the city
boundaries afer 1967. Tle said thal was in Iscael’s own interest. We had ao historic
connection to these Arab villages. and something like 130.000 Palestinian lived
there. “Why should we wani wo annex them,” he asked. 1 would be like sceepting
the “right of retura™ through the beck door.
Dan Meridar’s voice, for me, was especially important. [ knew he was as
determined as [was to fry to et «peace surement with the Palestinians. Bul he
was also 8 former Likudnik, and a native Jensalernite. “1m against any
concessious when it comes to Israeli sovereignty,” he said. “Any attempt to divide
Jerusalem would be a serious blow, and nat just far Jews in lseael” For centuries,
Jewish communitics all over the world, ad looked 10 Jerusaken, prayed for
Jerusalem, The yearly Seder meal, on Passover. ends with the Tlebrew phrase:
Shana hab b*Yerushudam. Next year, in Jerusalem. “What we decided bere in
Cup David,” Dun saiel, “also affects Jews in Rew York. in Moscow. In
Johannesbucg.” Tle urged us 1 focus instead on offering Arafat as aticactive as
possible a package of concessions on all the ether issues. “Then let him decide.
But even if sovereignty over Jerusalem means thal the deal collapses, Pm nol
willing the pay that price.”
No voices were raised. Tt was the rarest of political discussions. People offered
therr views, and listened to athens’, Amnon ©ipkin pomted out that a linge arca of
what was now came inside the boundaries of Jerusalem was nol part of the city
he'd known before 1967. Tchoing Oded Tran, he said: “IU in our interest for as
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any a possible of the Arab inhabitants 1o come wader the authority of the
Palestinians, and as few as possible under our cule.” Amnon’s bottom line was that
we auld not give up Israeli sovereignty over the Temple Mount, which, although
he was a non-observant Jew, he called “the cradle of Jewasis history.” But equally.
we couldn't and shouldn't “un the Al-Adsa masque.” Tle wes also in Lavoe of
agreeing to what Clinton had asked of me: giving Arafat a base in the Muslim
Quarter of the Od City. Lis one caveat was that we should not do any of this
unless it was part of 2 genuine, final. peace agreement with the Palestinians.
Danny Yatom urged us to move beyond our emotions and look for a practical
solution, “We all know how the boundaries of Jerusalem were drawn,” he stid,
refersing to the posi-1967 expansion of the city. * hey ‘re not holy. 11 is importani
10 get down 10 our real red lines.” Eli Rubinstein, the atcorney general, agreed
Fen though he was an observant, Orthodox Jew, and more sympathetic politically
10 Likud than Labor, he concluded that we needed to include “as few Arabs ss
possible” under Tseacli sovereignty, and to cede the outer villages to the
Palestinians, adding: “This is a moment of truth.”
1 was nearly five hours before | brought the discussion to a close. “This is ss
rave a decision as when Ben-Gurion accepted the partition plan in 1947: the
declaration of the state; or the mast tense moments of the Yom Kippur War.” 1
suid. “Or the decisions which Begin took m this same place.” OF course, Begin
hadn't even been willing to enter into discussion on Jerusalem. But we were in
different situation. Tf we were going to get a true end 1 our conflict. the question
af Jerusalem had to be addressed. “We can’t dely the decision. We can’t avaid it.
We will have 1 deciele.” My vw red line was he same as Amnon Lipkin's:
“sovereignty over the site of our Tirst and Second Temples.” Tven shared
sovereignty elsewhere within the Old City seemed to me a step too far at this stage,
bu | did’ nuke 1 ont us part of s full peace. “Withont disengagement from the
Palestinians, without an end of conflict,” T reminded oue negotiating lea, “wees
heading toward furcher tragedy. We can't pretend we don't see the iceberg.”
Vasked several members of the team, under Shlomo Ben-Ami, lo drafl a paper
based on our discussion. Since | kiiew that Clinton, and Avafal wo, could do
nothing of substance until I'd resolved how far to go on Jerusalem, T went to see
the President. 1 told him about our session. [said that we were now crystallizing
what had been said iu a formal position, and 1 hoped to be able to ret in a few
hours with “the fucthest point we can go.” Clinton said that would be a critical
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moment in the summit. IF we cond find common ground, he said, seal would
have achieved what had cluded it undec Rabin, end even Ben-Gurion: “end of
conflict, and Jerusalem recomized internationally as your capital,” | told him that
the discussion with my negotiators had been moving and illonmaum “1 ould see
how nuh it weighed on everyone.” But | added that 1 sill did not feel anything of
a similar nacre, or remotely as serious, was happening on the Palestinian side. 1
also said that in deciding how w proceed, J couldn't ignore political realities back
home. | would have to pet any major change in ouc position concerning Kusalent
through the Knesset, even before putting a peace agreement to a referendum.
“When will you et back to me with your paper?” he asked. I said I'd try by
‘midnight. | also asked him whether he could delay going to the G8 summit in
Japan, for which he was due 10 leave Camp David on the moming of the 19". That
meant we had just ane full day left, | said even if the plan wus 10 resume our talks
aferward, [ couldn’t move on Jerusalem right before we recessed. I would mean
“putting my last and best offer on the table” and runaing the risk of leaks in Tscacl
while Clinton was gone. Ile said that he had to go to the G8, but would try to put
oft leaving for u further day. Then, he asked me to draw up a list of questions for
him Lo present to Arafat so that we could solidify our understanding of how fac he
was ready to go for peace.
1 had Shlomo get busy on the list of questions, Rut it wok fime. We reconvened
around cleven at night, 10 discuss both the questions and the Jerusalem package.
Though it retained Israeli sovereignty over the entirety of the Old City, it did give
the Palestmians a greater measure of control over ather areas of Fast Jerusalem
than any Isvacli government hid been willing to consieler in the past. Still, shnost
everyone in the negotiating team could live with it, assuming it became the eritical
‘element in a final peace. Dan Meridor, alone, remained firmly oppased, though
Elyukiz Rubinstcin also id some reservations. Even Dim said he understood the
importance of getting a peace agreement. if indeed it was possible, and our
readiness to discuss new proposals on Jerusalem.
When lef) for Clintons cabin ut about 1:00 mn on Wednesday, 1 bad no idea |
was about lo enter the most diffieult mecting — and the only real fight — | had with
‘him during our long effort to achieve a Middle Last peace. T brought Shlomo and
Dyn with me, which meant that Madeleme Albright, Dennis and Sandy Berger
stayed as well. Usensed tension in all of them, in large part, | soon discovered,
because they took exception to the more than twelve hours we had speat discussing
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aod refining our position vn Jerusalem. 1 think Clinton expected a formal offer
from us. Since I'd been guided by his request for a list of questions for Arafat,
however, that is what we came to him with, As we'd discussed, | wanted finally to
whit some sign of whether Arafa, loo, was ready 10 make diffieuh decisions.
The questions were specific. “Will you accept an agreement that stipulates the
following...” it began, and proceeded to outline the kind of peace we could accept
and still hoped for. The points meluded not just Jerusatem, but wreas 1 knew would
also be sensitive for Amafal, such as the “right of retum” and formal agreement ww
an end of conflict. We went furcher than betore in some areas. One of the outer
Fast Jerusalem neighborhoods would be under Palestinian sovereignty, The rest of
the city woukd serin mdr Issac sovereiguty, but most of the other Avab villages
would be subject Lo a system of Palestinian administeation. The Ilacam al-Sharif,
the mosque complex ibove the wall of the Jewish temple, would be under
Palestinian “administiative and religious management” We also suggested
“ypecial arrangements” implying a Palestinian presence in the Old City, but again
under Israeli sovereignty. The questions envisaped eventual Palestinian control in
the Jordan Valley, wilh im Israch sceurily zone for 12 years, rather than our
propasal in pre-suenmit talks for 30 years. Then, explicitly, we proposed a question
to Arafat to confirm my understanding with Clinton that tae “right of recur”
would apply 101 ta smal praper, but to a Palestinian stale on the West Bask and
Gaza. Uinally, the document said: “I understand thal such an agreenient constitutes
an end of conflict.”
After he read it. the President blew up. Far from the “botcom lines” he'd
appuseutly haped for, but which Ud sever thought wore expected af this stags, |
seemed to be reteeating from ideas Shlomo and Gili had presented in thee all-night
session with the Palestinians. Given the eround rules of that exercise. they'd felt
able 10 go beyond smything we'd sciually agreed, und in some reas beyond shat
they knew [could support. As a resull, the list of questions assumed Tsrael would
keep a litle more than 11 percent of the West Bank. nearly one percent more than
Shlomo hid mentioned. Shlomo and Gili had also neised the possibility of up 10
three of the vuter Jerusalem villages coming under full Palestinian sovercigaty.
“You keep us, and Arafat. waiting for 13 hours.” Clinton furned, his face nearly
scarlet. “And you want me to present something fess than you've already offered.”
Ile said he wouldn't do it. “I his is not real. [Ls not serious.™ Ile said that he'd
‘gone to Shepherdstown in search of what was supposed to be an endgame with the
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Syrians. Then to Geneva lo see Assad, “where I felt like a wooden Indian, doing
your bidding. will nor let it happen here. [will simply not do it”
1 tried to keep my voice steady when | replied. 1 explained that the issues we
were ahdressing went lo the hear! of Isls micrests, its future scourity, ils
identity and definition as a nation. 1 had a responsibility to tread earcfully. Then,
my voice rising too, [ came back to wha [ felt was the real problem. Arafat and his
negotiators had been sitting and waiting for me and my team, and probably Clmton
as well, wo deliver more and more concessions with no sign that they were willing
to move on anything. “1 find that outrageous.” 1 said. 1 did not expect Arafat to
respond with equal concessions. After all, Israel had mast of the tangible assets,
“But 1 died expect him al lost 10 take a small step once we hid taken fen. We have
ool seen even this. This is the kind of behavior parents would oo tolerate in their
own children! We don’t expect Arafat to accept this, but | #o expect him ta present
a counter-position.”
Clinton remained adamant he couldn’t go 1 Arafat with a retreat fron oue
earlier ideas. “My negotiating team moved beyond my red lines.” 1 told him. The
overnight talls were supposed ta be non-binding snd assumed that both sides
would make & peauine auempl Lo gel an agreement. “I can’t sce any change in
Arafat’s pattern. We take all the risks.” [ said 1 doubted that Arafat expected to
hear that we had deeded fo give him Jerusalem,” In any case, the brash public
hadn't given me a mandate 1o do that. But [ would still move in Arafat’ dircetion.
if and when 1 got any sign he was willing to do the same.
The President's anger eased, He supested he caucus with his negotiators and
Tigre ont wha 1o do next. 1 fell bad about what bid happened: not about Ue list of
questions, or my insistence that we could not offer major concessions with no sign
of reciprocity. But [ did regret that it had left the Americans sa frustrated, and
Clinton so angry. He had invested not just huge amounts of lime snd brsnpower,
but political capital. in the search for peace.
He phoned me at about 3:30 in the moming and asked me ro come back. This
time, went alone, We suf on fhe terrace of Aspen, He said again he couldn't go to
Arafet with the list we'd drawn up. Bu having met with his negotiators, he
suggested they draft a more forthcoming list of their own — consistent wich what
Shlomo and Gili had proposed. 1 agreed, as long as they kept in mind that it had fo
bie something [eon ulimately live with, and thi it be presenled to Aral as a
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Atcrican proposal. T sugested the President could tel] Arafat that he'd uy to get
me fo agree to il, providing Arafat first showed a readiness 10 move.
The American questions did go further than ours. They asked Arafat whether he
would negotiate an the bass of gem Palestinian soverciunty over all the outer
Jerusalem neighborbiouds, as well as the Muslim Quarter of the Old City and a
“custodial role” over the holy sites. Bur Arafat said no. He insisted on Palestinian
sovereignty over ull of Fist Jerusalem, including the Old City and the holy sites.
For a few hours afer Clinon’s fruitless meeting with Arafal, Dennis and the
American team engaged in a rescue effort. adding another carrot. They included
the Christian Quarter as well, meaning Palestmian soverenmty over nearly half of
the OI City, including the areas where almost sll Arab residents lived. Dennis
gave the proposal to Shlomo and Amnon Lipkia 10 being to me, and asked two of
the Pulestmian negotiators to take it to Arafat, Fven offering sovereignty over the.
Muslim Quartec went beyond anything 1’d proposed. So did a lot of the other
American questions. Sul, T said we'd be ready to consider them in discussions
with the US negotiating team — with the exception of the Christian Quarter. But
that, too, turned out not 16 mater. Arafan did nol even respond.
Clinton called me 10 say we'd reached the end of the road. “There were only two
options: end the summit and announce we'd tried and failed, or defer Jerusalem
and fry fo get aurcement on the rest of fhe issnes, Casked for time to think it over,
and he said he'd come see me when | was ready. 1 was tempted 10 put oll
Jerusalem. Tn the admittedly unlikely event we could get a deal on the other issues.
that would imdenrably be un achievement, But [ canldn’t help think that
Arafil’s lack of engagement ou Jerusalem was vel another sign that he was nol
ceady for the almost equally tough compromises cequited to resolve the other core
issues. And there was no escaping the reality that without a deal on Jerusalem, no
agmreement we reached sould truly represent am “end of conflict.” Moreover,
Jerusalem wasa’t just a Palestinian issue. [Lwas of fundameatal interest 1 the
whole Muslim world. If we left it unaddressed, we would be putting future Israeli
governments in the positon of having Lo cgoliale on Jeusakan afer we'd given
back our key negotiating assets and all our leverage.
Taceepted now that the search of a full peace treaty. or even a framework
agreement, looked all but impossible. Even Shlomo’s and Gili’s freelancing bad
produced only a series of no's from Aralat. Bul 1 fell | couldn’t give up. Much as
T'd been resisting it. [ believed [ needed to give Clinton my re bottom lines. even
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wilh Arafat still mute and uncesponsive. That was the oaly way ve could know
wilh certainty whether peace was possible. IC it wasn’L, it would also demonstrate
awerfully to the Americans that we were nat the party who had prevented an
ameement
Tlie President came to see me in Dogwood a little before 1 at night on the 18%,
Tess than 12 hours betore he was due to take his delayed flight ta the GS. I told him
1d decided to do what Rabin hud done with Syria. [was going 1o gnive him a
“deposit” to keep in his pocket, which he would be free 10 use as the basis for a
further, American propesal to Arafat. assuming it was part of an agreement with a
“satisfactory resolution” of the refingee 1ssue and un expheit endeof-canlict, He
couhd present it as something which he could tell Arafat be wis confident of
persuading Israel to accept. Tt weal well beyond what I'd offered before, on all the
maar issues, [ proposed Palestinian rule over 91 percent of the West Rank, | was
ceady for a Palestinian state 1 have sovereignty over 85 percent of the border in
the Jordan Valley as well, and our seeurity zone there would stay in place for “less
than 12 years.” Seven out of the nine outer Arab neighborhoods of Jerusalem
would come under Palestman soverengmly. The mer neighborhoods would be
under Palestinian civil authority: including planning and zoning, and law-
enforcement. For the mosques on the Temple Mount. I proposed a shared
custodianship fo incl the new sue of Palestine, Morocco and the chieir of the
Higher Islamic Commission in Jerusalem. | also agreed 10 consider Palestinian
sovereignty over borf the Muslim and Christian quarters of the Old City.
Clinton. arching his eyebrows and smiling, said what I'd offered was a package
of genuine concessions. 1 was more than hie had expected and, he assumed, more
thaa the Palestinians could have hoped for. Tt had the makings of a potential
breakthrough toward a fair and final peace. I told him [ hoped so. Bur piven
Arafi’s behavior so fa, | hid my doubts
Now. iL was our tun fo wait. he President invited Arafat to Aspen and, from
what we heard soon afterwards, zat no hint of any readiness fo reciprocate. He
agreed only to Talk to is negotiators and wet buck with an answer, Overnight, the
Palestinians sent messages to he Americans asking questions on cach of the
concessions, though still with no indication from Arafat of a response. Finally. he
sent a suggestion that smee Clinton was about ta fly off 10 the G8, we tke i two
week break 10 allow Arafat lo consult with Arab leaders. To his credit, Clinton
knew an escape act when he saw it. Tle recognized that only by confontiag the
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issues raised by our proposals and showing a willingness to find common ground
would we have any hope of success. No roves, Clinton seid. [le needed a straight
answer, Again, not full acceptance necessarily, but agreement to treat the proposals
a basis for negotiating an Israchi-Palestinin peace, Amfal’s smswer came shorily
before dawn. [Lwas “no”.
Clinton couldn't quite believe it. TTe went back to see Arafat, telling him he was
making an error on the scale of 1948, when the Palestiniins bid rejected the
partition of Palestine aud the creation of an Arab state: or in 1978, when hy
negotiating on the basis of Sadat’s Palestinian-rights tramework, they would have
ended up with a mere 5.000 Israch settlers on the West Bunk mitend of nearly
200.000. What most astonished Clinton wars thst Arafal wis saying no even lo
using the package as a dasis for negotiations. Sill, Arafat would not budge
As Palestinian negotiators fried to salvage things by suggesting another frip by
Mudeleine und Dennis 10 the Middle Kast, it was cher thal even the Americus.
were fod up. They knew that one side, at least, had been trying 0 pet an agreement.
‘They couldn’t understand why Arafat was unwilling even to accept the “pocket”
proposals is # basis for further talks. When Yossi Ginossar, our most rehab le
conduit, went 10 see Arafat, be found him sitting alone and. in Yossi's description,
“paralyzed.” Clinton finally decided to have one last go. When he did. Arafat not
anly remirined imwilling, To the President’s astonishment, he insisted that the
ancient Jewish temple hadu’t been iu Jerusalem a all, but in the West Bank city of
Nablus.
1 was getting a bite to eat m the diming room in Laurel Lodge when Mudeleme
stowed up. She didn’t bother defending Arstiat. She was as rusinded is | was. Her
‘message was that after the summit, it was imporcant not to make things worse. A
‘negotiating process had to be kept alive, Then, Clinton sat down with me, He
dchvered a simili message, but with even greater fshmg, “You're smarter than [
am.” he joked “You're certainly experienced in wer, and I'm not. But I'm more
experienced in politics, and there are a few things [I've leaned along the way, The
most important is nol fo comer your advensinics, and not lo comer yourself,
Always kave yoursella way out. Don't lock yourself into a losing option.” 1 could
see that he wes right. T also believed, as strongly now as before the summit, tha
Isracl’s own interests and its security were not served by an unresolved conflict
with the Palestivians. The problem was that, in the abseuce of un equal
commitment on Arafat's side. any continued negotiating process seemed futile.
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T packed my bags. T wld Danny Yatom to inform the Americans we were
leaving and to gel our plane ready 10 take us back Lo Tsrael. T let the others in ou
team know that we were going, A number of them, und several of the Americans as
well, urged me to veconsider. But | said [sw no point in staying. What [didn’t
know, however, was that vos of the Palestinians” original Oslo negotiators, Hassan
Asfour, had approached Dennis Ross with a new proposal: that we ask Arafat to
aveept everything except the proposal on the holy sites as a basis for negotiation
Sovereignty over the Temple Mount would be addressed in later, international
negotiations. When Dennis brought this to me. my instinct was to say no. Like so
much else at the summit, it was an inherently skewed formula: it would involve
major Israeli concessions on all the other main issues, witha sceuting our
absolute minimum need in Jerusalem: soversignty over the Temple Mount. T didn’t
say yes. Still, with Clintons words of advice still on my mind, I said that 1'd think
il over,
When I mel the rest of the Isracli team, almost all of them fell we should stay.
The consensus was that especially if violence broke out afer the summic’s
collapse, we didn’t wanl to feel wed leh any stone untied. AT abou 11 pr, |
phoned the President and told hin that we would stay until be returned from
Okinawa. le was clearly pleased, and asked us to keep working in his absence.
When | resisted tat, saying tit any substantive talks needed Ins involvement, we
finally agreed that talks could continue in search of a formula for the holy sites. On
all che other issues, only informal discussions would be held until and unless a way
ahead an the Temple Mount was found. If that happened, and if rag finally
accepted the “pocket” proposals as an agreed starting point, formal negotiations
could resume. Clinton accepted this formula. ITe went to see Arafat and secured —
or thought he had secured his agreement as well.
One of the President’ great streniths was his genius for blurring the edges of
potential differences in search of common ground. But when edges Aad to be
sharpened. this could lead to confusion. Before leaving for the GS, the President
wegheeted w mention 10 Arafat our explicil umdastanding that, with the exception
of the talks on the holy sites. nothing would happen until he accepted the
concessions that President Clinton and I had delivered as at least a basis for further
negotiations. As « result, Aratat’s feam now set about happily asking questions and
probing my negotiators — pushing us to go further — but with no move inclination
than before to produce any concessions of their own.
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When I leaned what was happening, T told my negotiators they were not lo
hold any Further formal mectings during the four days Clinwn would be away.
Dennis's initial response was frustration. Madeleine Albrights's was fury. They
buth made mo secret of their view that | wis needlessly stonewalling. 1 wast’! until
a few ous later that Madeleine apparently saw the steavgeaphec’s record of ty
conversation with the President before he'd left, confirming the condition that
Acafit accept the “pocket” at least as a basis ou which to proceed. That evening,
she apologized to me for the misunderstanding. and explained the mix-up 1 the
full Palestinian and fsraeli negotiating teams.
1 spent most of the remaining three days ia my cabin or. when the rain relented,
walking through the woods. The Americans appeared t thik | was sulking. |
wasn’t. Twas trying to find the least diplomatically damaging way 10 navigate the
period until the President's return, T couldn't see showing up at Lwrel at every
mealtime, mingling and joking with the Americans and Palestinians, but cefusing
Lo enter into aay form of negotiations. That would compound the awkwardness of
the sitation. and also be a direct affiont to Madeleine. I liked and respected her
But [could not in good conscience help her out m her efforts to find ai feast some,
informal. way of moving the summit along in Clinton's absence. If Arafat had
failed to show even a scintilla of movement with the President in the room, I knew
there was no wiry hat he wis going lo do so wilh the Secretary of State. For the
Palestinian negotiators, who were predictably in favour of her efforts, the
definition of “new ideas” was whatever further movement they might cajole out of
mr negatiatars. Still, on day-three of Clinton”s absence, T got a note saying: that
Secretary Albright was on her way w my cabin. | didn’t want the needless
diplomatic difficulty involved in agaia telling her T could not sanction free-
wheeling, and decidedly one-sided, negotiations while Arafat hadn't moved a
single inch, So | made myself scarce, Fortunately, | was wearmye sneakers, old
Danny to inform the Americans Twas out jogging around the perimeter of the large
Camp David estate. and went off to do just that.
101d my own delegation 1 was taking time out to assess where we stood. [ did
continue meeting with Gili Sher and Danny Yatom. Yet for much of time, I read. {
also did a lot of thinking. I considered the “pocket” concessions I'd agreed to. the
uncertainties and risks I'd been prepured to run. and the need ta decide how to deal
with the fact that Arafat, when he had engaged at all, hed said “no”
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Onee it was clear to the Americans there would be no talks until the President
returned, however, Madeline began ucging me to go see Arafat personally. The two
‘members of aur team wha were the least pessimistic about Camp David's anteame,
Shlomo Ben-Ami acl Yossi Ginossar, uso said they tought it was a good idea. 10
was they who'd pressed nie go see Aral (or tea and sweets eadier in the
summit. But that meeting had produced not even a glimmer of negotiating
Nexibility from the Palestinian leader. Yossi had said at the time that it would help
the atmosphece. and pay dividends later on. But that hadu’t happened either.
“Madam Secretary,” I told Madeleine, “eating more baklava with Arafat isn’t
going: co help. The situation is simple: he needs fo answer whether he views fhe
President's proposal us a basis for going forveard.”
Whea Clinton ceturned, he promptly got back down Lo business: making one
ast push to see whether a peace deal was possible. He phoned me around midnight
an the 24% of July, a few bows afer he'd arcived. [Te wld me be had seat an even
ore far-reaching package to Arafet, expanding on my proposals. Now. all of the
outer Arab neighborhoods in East Jerusalem would come under Palestinian
sovercigaty, i addition 1 the Mustim amd Christan quarters in the Old City. And
Acafit would he given “custodial sovereignty” over the Muslim holy sites on the
Temple Mount. I didn’t object. Though it was further than [ felt I could go, it was
within the spit of my “pocket deposit”. The same ground rules still applied: these
were American proposels., whieh the President was telling Arafat he would try to
deliver if he accepted them as a basis for serious negotiations. But when Clinton
phoned me back. around 3:15 in the morning, it was fo tell me that Arafat had
again said no.
‘The curtain had finally come dowd. What remained now was to clear up the set.
14id meet Arafat once mote, in a joint session with President Clinton, but only for
closing statements. The President and [spoke as mich in sorrow und Frustration as
anger. Both of us said we thought an historic agreement had beea within our grasp.
and that far-reaching proposals had been tabled to make it possible. Arafat
responded with words both of ws had beard before: <Miasive toward Clinton,
chapsodic about his “old partner” Rebin and fulsome in his ostensible commitment
to keep tying for peace. Buc it was just words. We knew he was not willing even
ta dati about the kind of compromises a real, final peace would require.
“The Prosident’s remarks 10 the medi were, by the standards of post-summit
diplomacy, unmistakably clear in making that point. ITs praised me and the Israeli
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negotiating team for courage and vision. Essentially. be thanked Arafat for
showing up. That was some consolation. But it didn’t aller the weight of the
message we were carrying home, Arafat either would not ar could nat make peace,
at least on terms any Issel lesder could seep or the people of [snel woukd
endorse.
There were only two potential deal-breakers on our side, as Arafat had known
from the beginning, The first involved the “right of rerum.” We were never going
10 sign 8 pesce agreement ccepling Lhe return of hundreds of thousands of
Palestinians within our pre-1967 borders. Demographically, that was a recipe for
the inexorable end of Israel as a mujority-Jewish state, 1t would alsa imply a
rewriting of the history of how Israel wis bon: in a wae, with a almost cqual
umber of refugees either fleeing or forced to leave on both sides, aller the Arab
world had imanimously, and violently, rejected 1 UN partition that would have
created a Palestinian Arab state as well. did aceept a “right of return” wo the
Palestinian state we had hoped Lo create, as part of a [inal peace deal, on the West
Bank and in Gaza. 1 alse supported the idea of a multi-billion-dollar international
Fund 16 compensate or veselile Palestiniin religees, and was ready 1 commii Isnt
a8 party to that effort. The other eritical issue was Jerusalem. [ had stretched our
negotiating position almost to breaking point. The “pocket” ideas Arafat ended up.
rejeetmg challenged a longstanding 1svach political taboo. In practical terms, they
amounted 10 a breach of the assurances which | and every other Israeli Prime
Minister since 1967 had given: never to re-divide Israel's capital. Tad we actually
zot an end-of-contlict deal. | would have had to justify it to Israelis in a
referendum. [think 1 could have done 50. But one thing | could nut give up was our
sovereignty over the Temple Mount, the centerpiece of our history as a people and
Israel's as a state. It was our connection with our past, a focus of what we had gone
through, what we had achieved, and what we had left 1o accomplish, If was
essential to who we were.
Arafat never even engaged in a discussion on the “right of return”, On the
“Temple Mount, however, he was explicil. Any pusce, any basis for negotiation
Lowaed peace, had to begin by confirming Palestinian sovereignty. Besides, as he'd
told the President of the United States, he had persuaded himself there never was a
Jewish temple in Jerusalem. When I heard about that remark, 1 was less shocked
than Clinton. [L struck mie as just another wary Arafat had of conveying Ais botiom
lines. It was a bit like stories he liked to tell about visiting his aunt in Jerusalem as.
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2 young boy and secing religious Jews walking through the streets of the Old City
Tdon't know whether those stories were Leue. But the point was that while he had
na problem with Jews in their lang coats and black hats praying in the holy city,
Jews exercising authority or sovereignty, o i Jewish state, wis something chic
cntirely. Camp David had made it clear it was something he was not prepared lo
accept.
I'he question which | now had to confront was what 10 do next.
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Chupter Twenty-Three
Tt didn’ fully hit me how draining our efforts had been unl the morning that
the summit collapsed. when President Clinton called me to come talk to him in the
living coom at Laurel Lodge. When © arrived. Madeleine was alieady there, sitting.
on the edge of the sofa. She greeted me with a resigned shrug and a valiaat but aot
altogether suceesstul effort at a smile,
“We ried? Clinton said quictly as 1 took i seal in a wooden chair opposite his
“4 pave it everything.” 1 he nomial reason for the mccting was Lo brit me on
the communiqué the Americans were ping to issue: mostly boilerplate assurances
that both sides remained committed to seeking peace, but with an additional
“understanding” that neither would take unilaters| actions in the meantime. But
mostly, Clinton wanted to reinforce his message of a few days earlier: don’t “lock
yourself into a losing option.” Don’t close the door, Dan’t give up. “1 won't” | told
fim, an wssusance | echoed in remarks 10 reporters u few hours later, when | seid
that while the peace process had “suffered a major blow, we should aot lose hope.
With goodwill om all sides, we cam recuperate,”
But [old the President that we conldn’t just ignore what il happened it Carp
David. Yes, in the event Arafat suddenly had second thoughts about the potentially
historic achievement he'd passed up. he would know where to find me. But until
nd unless that happened, 1 told Chnton thi [assimed my “packer” concessions
would now be firmly back in his pocket. And while we couldn’ erase them from
memory, [said it was important both of us male it clear that. in legal and
diplomatic terms, they were not gomez fo provide Arafat 4 new starting point from
which he could make his customary demand for morc.
“And T have to Lol] you that, given what bas happened, there's no way 1 can
justify handing him contral of more land. | am not going to wo ahead with the Wye
redeployiments m these circumstances.”
“You don’t have to,” Clinton replied. “I'll back you.”
Though I never discussed internal Israeli politics with any foreign leader, even
the closest of ules, 1 didn’t donb thist the President’ support was parily
cecopnilion of what awaited me once I got liome. The compromises I'd been
willing to consider had gone further — much further. on the politically combustible
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question of Jerusalem — than any Israeli leader in the search for peace. Even befor
Pd left for Camp David, the defections from our coalition meant we'd been loft
with only 42 seats in the Knesset, nineteen short of a majority, Amid the first,
sketchy media repos Ut we were even talking ahonl sharing control of parts of
Jerusalem with the Palestinians, thee was & chorus of denunciation (vom right-
wing politicians back home. Bibi Necanyalm had largely kept cut of the public eye
since his resiguation afer the eleetion. Now, he issued a statement accusing me of
having “broken all the red lines held by all Isuaeli governments.” During the
President's final push to save the prospects for a summit agreement. Bibi called 1
news conference. He said he was determined to prevent what he called an
impending disintegration of Israeli society. “Whal we hear from most of Lhe repons
out of Camp David does not answer our hopes,” he said.
It liadn't answered my hopes either. Bur [ had gone into the summit with my
eyes open. Crustrated though 1 was by Lhe way the summit had ended, Thad no
tegrets about going as far as 1 had in eying Lo reach, al the minimum, 2 Niemework
agreement In that sense, it is true te summit had tailed. But when I'd urged
Preswdent Clinton to convene it, | mile the argnment that if genuine peace wis
ever going to be possible, we al least had 1o know whether Arafat was interested in,
or capable of, playing his parc. That question had. for now, been answered. At least
as nmportunily for Imac, the President of the Cited States und almost the entire
international community recognized we'd done everything realistically possible wy
reach an accommodation. Diplomatically, the ball was in the Palestinians’ court.
‘There was a final achievement as well little noticed or remarked upon in the
dys immediately afer Camp David, bu hugely siguificaut. A taboo had been
broken. For the first time. all Tscaelis recognized what their political leaders, both
Labor and Likud, had long known: a formal. tinal peace with the Palestinians, if
amd when it ene, would require 1s nol just 10 withdaw from the reat majority of
the West Bank. but 10 find a formula for sharing power in Jerusalem. Many Tseaclis
sill believed that was a price too high, and not just Likudniks. A couple of weeks
aller the sumimil, © Rabin told in Isach newspaper that ber late husband would
be “turning in bis grave” i he'd knowen the concessions 1d been ready to consider
on Jerusalem. I found the remarks hurtful, but I understood them. In a way. they
drove home the point I'd made to Clinton during the summit: off [sraelis had a
deep, emotional auachment to vue historic capital. “Yitzhak would never have
agreed to compromise on the Old City and the Temple Mount,” Leah said,
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“because for him, Jerusalem was sacced from a steietly national and historic point
of view. Iwas for me as well. Tn fact, [think its religious significance probably
resonated mare strongly, Sell, the major change from the summit was that even
those Israclis who found a compromise on Jerusalem unacceptable recounted al,
if they did want 10 negotiate a definitive end to the conflict, talking sbout it was
unavoidable.
At least for now, however, there wasn’t soing to be pence deal. As our EI Al
707 deseended over the Medilerrancan for our approach back 1 Ben-Gurion
Aiport, 1 faced the more immediate issue of ensuring my government survived
“This was partly in case, against all adds, Arafat showed a readiness to revive the
swarch for peace — bul also becanse of the real prospect bie would choose violence
instead.
PRU
Since the Knesset was about to go into recess until late October. I would have a
three-month window fo restupe and stabilize my coalition but only 1F we could
weather a no-confidence motion introduced by Arik Sharon efler Camp David. We
did weather it, barely. Arik needed a majority of the Knesser's 120 seats to bring:
down the government, The vote ended mu 50-50 ne, The other 20 MK abstained,
or didn’t show up. This was nol because of any enthusiasm for my efforts 10 get an
agreement at Camp David. but because of a lack of enthusiasm for an early
lection in which they feared losing seats.
Sill, thi did allow me Lo focus on the challenge of the inevitably aliered
situation with Arafat after the summic's collapse. My main concern was the
pessibilicy of violence. Fen before returning home, 1d phoned Shaul Mofaz and
Avi Dichicr, the former Suyerel Matkal officer sho was now head of the Shin Bel
“Let's hope the violence doesn’t come, told them. “But if it docs, make sure we
are ready.” Though there was no sign of violence in the weeks immediately after
the sammil, there was cqually hile sign of diplomatic engagement by Arafat.
Obviously relieved at the way Camp David had ended. be retuned 10 Gouza to &
hero’s welcome, proudly proclaiming that he had refused to “give up” Jerusalem. Tt
wis vintage Arafat: the “weneral” in hus stirched umform and kefiyeh, fresh from
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the diplomatic equivalent of the battlefield. teiumphant against the odds. TL was the
cole he liked and played best. Tis next move was Lo take the show on the road: Ln
Arab, Furapean and world capitals, pleading that he had been the “vietim™ of
summit chicancry in which President Clinton and | had presented bin with a deal
a0 self-respecting Palestinian could accept. [le was also campaigning fo
international support for a move, in contravention of the final Camp David
communiqué, lo “declare” a Palestinian stale unilaterally in mid-September
1 spake personally lo ony Blair and French President Jacques Chine, and also
dispatched Shlomo-Ben Ami, Arnon Lipkin, Yossi Beilin and Shimon Peres, who
was Minister of Regional Cooperation m the coulinen, an i series of diplomatic
visits 10 mike sure the true story of what had happened at the summit was
understood. As a resul, the globetrotting Arafat received an almost uaanimous
rebuff for the idea of a unilateral declarution of stateheood, He was told that if he
ceally wanted a state, he should return Lo the asgotiatiog table with Tsrael.
By the time | weut 10 New York in carly Sepiember — joining the largest
collection of world leaders ever assembled. for the UN's Millennium Summit
there seemed Fitlle chince of thal uppening. {mel privately with a number of
world leaders before delivering a brief address lo ie more than 150 presidents and
prime ministers. [ was at pains to take the high road. None of the foreign leaders 1
met had expressed any doubt that wed gone much further than they had expected
a Camp David, and that the onus for putting diplomacy back on track rested fimly
with the Palestinians. Lookiag straight at Acefat from the UN podiuen, T said: “We
are at the Rubicon, und neither of us can cross it alone.” Jerusalem, “the eternal
capital of Ismael.” was calling ou for a “peace of honor, of courage and of
brotherhood” — a peace recognizing that the city was also sacred 1 Muslinis and
Christians the world over. When Arafat spoke. it was almost as if the summit had
never happened. “We remain committed 10 our national rights over bust Jerusalem,
capital of our state and shelter of our sacred sites. as well as ouc rights on the
Chistian and Islamic holy sites.” he declared. Ile didn't mention Jews, beyond a
bizanre weherence to the 2.000% mmiversiny of the birth of Christ “in Bethletern,
Palestine.” [ eouldn’t resist cemarking lo one of the American negotiators tha I'd
altways thought Jesus grew up as a Jewish boy, making thrice-yearly visits at
festival time to the temple in Jerusalem, a a time when there was not a church,
much less & mosque, in sight
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Still in my mestings with Clinwn, T assured him T wes not giving up altogether
an the prospects for peace. Not only did I feel that would be wrong, as long as
there was a semtilla of hope, | believed that our continued diplomatic engagement
nihil provide 1 counterweight 1o amy moves by Avsfat fo revert 10 violence, 1 was
also eitical for Tseae] to retain the diplomatic, political and moral high ground we
had earned in the eyes of the international community from the concessions we had
boon willing lo consider. When the President suggested dialling @ final Anicrican
paper. based on Camp David though presumably with an even more geuerous
proposal for the Palestinians, 1 agreed. [ figured even Arafat might realize at some
point that if he did want a negotiated peace, the time for dithering was over.
Clinton would no longer be president in five months’ time. Unless 1 could Gud an
alternative way to refortify my coalition over the coming weeks it was entirely
possible I'd have to form a “unity” coalition with Arik and the Likud. Still, 1 told
President Clinton | doubted the ticking clock would make a ditTerence 1o the
Palestinian leader. Tf it didn’t. T believed at some point all our talk about an “ead of
contlict” would give way to conflict. The only question was when.
Tragically, | got the answer only weeks after my return from the LIN,
ose
Al the urging of the Americans, 1 invited Arafat and his negotiating tam 10
private dinner in Kochav Yair on the 25th of September. The atmosphere was
surprismygly warm, for which a lot of the credit, ws well as culinary praise, bas to Lo
10 Nava “Very cordial, even congenial, Nihil Shath old reporters afer the
dinner, nearly 45 minutes of which I spent talking alone with Arafat on the stone
terrace out back. Each of us spoke ro Clinton for about L0 minutes near the end,
anid the President was obviously pleased Ww hear us sounding upbeat about frying to
arrow any differences on the forthcoming American negotiating paper. On the
substance of our differences, by mutual agreement, Arafat and I didn't say much to
ch other. 1 did ivy to impress on bin tha me was gelling shor. His
monosyllabic reply — yes — veas at least better than the alternative. 1 else fo
believe we could both now focus on trying again
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The cequest that had come across my desk a few days earlier need not have
changed thar. Tiven though Arik had failed. foc aow, 1 bring down the
government, he was keen to male political capital from the collapse of Camp
David. He mow declared his intention lo pay a visit 10 the Temple Monnl. The
Mound — or as it was called in Arabic, [faram al-Sharil — was part of Isiacl. The
unsubtle point of Arilc’s visit was to dramatize his determination to keep it that
way. | he target of this political theatre was nol Artal or the Palestinians. [was
the Israeli public. me. and my goverament. In an all-pecfoet world, 1 would have
liked to find a way to block the visit. In a democracy, it wasn't that easy. The only
way [ cauld do so was on the grounds it was a threat to public order or security, a
judgement in the hands of our police and security services. [ duly asked for the
views of Avi Dichter of the Shin Bet, and Shlomo Ben-Anii. who in addition to
Deing interim Foreign Minister was Minister of Internal Security, in charge of the
police. Both came back with the same answer: though we'd all be happier if Arik
stayed down on his farm in the Negev, there was no reason to expect his visit
would pose 2 major public-order issue, and no basis for blocking ir. When Shlomo
contacted Jibril Rajoub, Arafat’ West Bank sceurity commander, Rajoub ssked
only that two conditions be imposed. and Shlomo ageeed. The first was that the
visit not occur on a Friday, when the mosques would be full of worshipers; the
second, that Sharan not set foot in either of the mosques on the Haram. Our chief
of police: informed Sharon thal iF be didn’ seep the eonditions, we'd deny him
permission to go. But he agreed. When he went, for about half an hour under
police escort on Thursday moming the 28, he complied,
AU first, we thought it would prove a one-off media stunt. But that evening,
Danny Yatom brought me an intelligence report with evidence that Arafat's
Palestinian Authority was planning for wide-scale violence after Friday prayers, in
protest over Sharon’s visit. anmy ealled Dennis Ross. Madeleine Albright called
Aqalfet. 10 urge him 0 ensure this didn’t happen. But as Dennis would remesk later.
“Arafat didn’t lift finger to stop it.”
‘The trouble began the next day, shartly after Friday prayers. It was also the eve
of the Jewish New Year, and the Western Wall area weas crowded. As people
poured out of the mosques. a number began hurling stones. some of them the size
at small boulders, onta the Jewish worshippers and police below. One knocked out
the highly experienced. stcady-handed evmmander of the Jerusalem police, whieh
T'm sure contributed to making the confrontation that followed even worse. By the
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<od of the day, dozens of Tseaelis and Palestinians were injured. Five Palestinians
lay dead. Though the media almost instantly labelled it a new “intifada”, this one
was very different. It was not u burst of anger, however misdirected, by stone-
throwing youths convinced Thal s road accident in Gia hud been something more
sinister. There had been no serious unrest on the day of Arik’s visit. We would
later learn this was a deliberate campaign. waged with guns and grenades. by
Iamas and Islamic Jihad, the Fatah offshoot Tanzin, and Arafar’s own police
force.
The media had changed, two, in the 13 years since the first intifada, with the rise
of twenty-four-seven news broadcasters, including the Arabic-language Al Kizeera,
Inmiages of pain and sufering and fear stoked anger on both sides. None, in the first
days of the violence, was more powerful, or heart-rending, than the pice of a
terrified 12-year-old Palestinian boy named Mohammed al-Durrab, sheltered hy
his father as they took cover [rom the crossfire in Gaza The facts of the incident,
as best we could establish immediately afterwards, were that the Palestinian
security forces had opened fire on Israeli troops near the serclement of Netzarim.
“Ton Palestinians, ieludimg te Ble boy, lost Heir hives when the soldiers reiuned
fire. We later established with near certainty that the boy had in (act been killed by
Palestinian gunfire. Bur even if we'd been able to prove that at the time, I'm sure.
that in the increasingly poisonous almosphere, it would have made little difaence.
Nor would it have changed the next, deeply disturbing escalation: the spread of
the violence into Israel itself. with unprecedentedly serious clashes between our
awn Arab citizens and the police in the Galilee, in Wadi Ara, in the mam mixed
Arab-Kewish ities, and the Negev. Beyond the political implications, the
demonsteations of solidarity with the Palestinian violence presented a security
challenge of a different order: to the ability of the Israeli police, and by extension
the government, to ensure basic law and order inside our borders. The worst of the
lashes lasted barely a week. Bul they left thirteen Arab Tsracli protestors dead,
sparking demonstrations as far afield as Jaffa. as well as gly incidents of mob
violence by Isncli Jews agnst Ants in some sas
President Clinton tried his best to help us halt tie violenee on the West Bank
and in Gaza. I doubled the Americans would succeed, but was fully ready to join in
their efforts to try. About ten days into the new mifada, 1 attended a crisis meetmy
with Arafal, mediated by Madeleine Albright and Dennis Russ, at the US
ambassadot’s residence Pacis. Tt was nominally under the aegis of President
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Chirac, but the understanding was that Madeleine would be in charge. Far from
showing any willingaess to end the violence, Arafat at first simply lied. [le said the
Palestinian violence was in response to an unprovoked assault by [srieli oops,
and demanded an intentional “protection” Force. There wis u panticulatly biz
moment when J read out the names of individual Taozim leaders whom we had
intercepted organizing the attacks. Arafat pretended he'd never heard of any of
them, almost as if'| was reading from a zoology lextbouk about species of polac
bears. This wag a man who had been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. What he
really deserved was an Oscar.
But people were dying. Needlessly. We ended up agreeing to a US-led fact-
finding commission, as well is a number of steps to separate the Palestinian
auackers and Israeli units. T reaflirmed our policy of insisting that Israeli soldiers
use live fire only if they felt their lives were under threat, Arafat undertook to order
his security (owces and Tanzim ood 10 launch further attacks. Tle even phoned Gaza
wilh what we were given Lo understand were explicit orders. Bul it was all for
show. as we discovered when we were invited to the Elysée Palace to meet Chirac.
“The Freneh President had ekeny received advance word from Aral abow his
demand for an intemational “protection” force, presumably with a role for the
French. To my surprise and frustration, and Secretary Albright's as well. Chirac
sisted thst no agreement was sceeptable wathont ia happen, “Then, he fumed
to me, demanding w know why the violeace had lef nearly 400 Palestinians dead,
‘but barely two dozen Israelis, if the Palestinians were the aggressors. “Mr
President,” I said, “just several weeks ago we were prepared to go very far in order
Lo put this entise confliet behind us. 11 is My Arafat who rejected the proposal, ven
as a basis for negotiations. Just a basis to seek peace. TTe then deliberately turned to
terror, We are protecting ourselves. and our soldiers. Are you really saying that
you'll be happy far us ta sign un agreement to end it only when wnother 350
Tscaelis are killed? 'm not playing that game. Arafat started this, TTe has 10 stop it
‘We know he can. and we hold him responsible if that does not happen.”
It did not happen, We tried all we could to prevent a further deterioration, |
approved moves, in co-ordination with the Palestinian police, a lower bur security
profile where possible. We made sure Israeli police were not visible from the
‘mosques on the Haram al-Sharif. But atter the next Friday prayers, a crowd made
its way 10 a police post at the edge of the Old City and auached it. In Nablus, the
‘burial site of Joseph had long been a source of tension. Shlomo Ben-Ami reached
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an agreement with the Palestinians to replace an Tseacli woop cordon there with
Palestinian police. But on the morning of Saturday October 7th, hours after the
Palestinian police took aver, a mob attacked, bumed and ransacked the site, They
destroyed the Torah scrolls. A Gow hours later, our soldices found the body of
cabbi from a nearby settlement. Tle had gone Lo survey the damage to the
synagogue
Tht evening, | delivered an ultimatum: “If we don’t see a change in the
patterns of violenee in the next two days, we will regard this as a cessation by
Arafat of the peace process.” Thar did, briefly, have an eftect. When Clinton
reinforged my message later in the day, Deans told me that for the first time, he
sensed that Arafat realized be had 16 uct. Bul again, it was not enough, nor in
anything like a sustained manaer. And with an appalling zet of murder thoes days
atterwards, it was 100 late, That outrage came in Ramallah, Two Israeh reservists
Look a wrong tun and ended up driving inw the wn. They were taken Lo the
Palestinian police station. Tluodreds of people broke ia and stabbed them, gouged
their eyes out and disembowled them. In a chilling image broadcast around the
world, one of the murderers brandished the bloodstsned pans of hs hands ma
gesture of triumph. Since | was Defense Minister as well, 1 spent the hows hat
followed in the Aza. We ordered atrack helicoprers into action for the first time.
thongh with advance wim fo focal Palestinians i the areas we tngeted. We
destroyed the Ramallah police station, as well as a militia base near Arafat's
headquarters in Gaza. But Arafat emerged to tell a cheering crowd: “Our people
don’t care. They don’t hesitate to continue their march to Jerusalem, the capital of
the Palestinian independent state.”
Tsraelis did care. TL is hard 10 say which emotion was more powerful: disgust or
fury. But if the opinion polls were to be believed, a large majority wanted vs to hic
busele with the full fore of tre Israch army. Still, sy overriding aim remamed fo
cod the viokeee if possible, nol make it worse. When Clinton asked me to join
him. Arafat. King Abdullah of Jordan and UN Secretary General Kofi Annan for a
summit in Sharm al-Sheikh, {agreed We worked out a series of steps to
disengage. Arafat was finally supposed to order the Palestinian Authority security
forces and Tanzim to cease fire. and establish 10-0 perimeters around cur amy
pasitians. We would reapen Gaza airport and. over u period of two weeks. pull
back our forces 10 where they had been before the violence began. But agai, it
didn’t happen. The Palestinian attacks intensified and, as I'd made clear at the.
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sumimil, we responded. The only, brief, lull came when Acafat feared the
Americans would cancel his scheduled visit to Washington Lo see Clinton on
November 9. [was due to follow him three days later,
met Clinton and Dems Ross over diner in a litle kitchen arc attached to the
Oval Office, and buth seemed surprisingly upbeat. The President said he'd told
Arafat the broad points that would be in the new American negotiating paper. ft
wits Camp Dirvid-plus. Assuming all 1ssues m a final peace were greed, the
Palestinians would now end up, afier a land swap near Gaza, with a “mid-90-
percent” share of the West Bank. On Jerusalem, the puiding principle would be
“whit is Arab will be Palestinian, and what 1s Jewish, Isaeh.” On the Temple
Mount, the Haram wl-Sharf, cach side would have control of its own holy sites.
Finally. though Palestinian refugees would be fee io return in unlimited numbers
0 4 new Palestinian state, there would be no “right of return” ta pre-1967 Israel,
‘The President told me that alle lie'd run all this by Arafat, he and Dennis had
asked whether “in principle” these were pacameters he could aceept. Arafat had
said ves.
Tassie they expected mie 1 siy the same. But 1okd them 1 couldn't give them
an answer. What concerned me now was the violence. Until it was reined in, 1
would not be party to rewarding Arafat diplomatically. [ urged the Americans to
‘make ending the violence their focus as well, because if they didn’t get tongher on
Arafiu’s noncompliance with anything resembling a de-csealation, tsracl wouhl do
so.
ve a
Since the Knesset had recurned before my trip to Washington, I'd needed first to
make sure my government would survive, The obvious, or at least 1he most
mathematically secure, choice would have been a deal with Sharon. Lispecially
since the lynching in Ramallah, there were calls from politicians on all sides for a
wmly coulition between Labor and Likud. Arik defimicly wanted in, “The main
issue seamined the peace process. | didn't find Arik’s specific abjections to Canip
David hard to deal with. As Td said from the start. the fact that we'd failed to reach
an agreement at the summit meant that any concessions I'd considered were now,
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in legal and diplomatic terms, null and void. The package Arafat had ultimately
rejcoed had not even been presented by me. IL was an American proposal. Besides,
it was obvious no seriqus negotiations were going ta happen anyway far the
Toreseeuhle fire. Arile, however, said he winled not just u “Tull divorces” from
Camp David. Tle insisted we Formally declace an end wo the eatice Oslo process.
Trold him that was a price Twas not prepared to pay for his support. Despite the
failure af the summit, and the terrible human cost from Arafat's choice of violence
aver diplomacy, there was a wid intentional recognition thal it was the
Palestinians. not Israel, who were responsible. For us to end the Oslo process
meant inviting accusations we'd never intended fo reach & peace agreement in the
first place, and Una it was fre that was closing te door. We would also risk
Jorfeiting the American support we'd secured by our efforts to reach a peace deal,
am asset all Israeli governments would benefit from in other circumstances and
contents in the future.
Vorunately, | iad an aliecnalive 10 a coalition with the Likud. Alarmed at the
prospect of a having Sharon in the government, the Oslo-era doves in Labor, led by
Yossi Beilin, worked ont new dial with Shas. The Sephari Orthodox pitty was
sill not prepared to rejoin the cabinet. but it did promise “safety net” in the
Knesset to ensure we would not have to worry about no-confidence vores while
canfronting the Palestinian vioknce. | knew Shas’s support would waver if there
was i resumption of serions peace negotiations. SGll, as Clinton continued Lo insist
we make one final attempt 10 get a deal, 1 felt we had a responsibility to play our
part, {wasn’t prepared to put us i the position of appearmyt to stoneweall ns
efforts, end encourage the false mamative thal loach “iirmsigence” was somehow
Irustrating Arafat's readiness to make peace.
‘The Palestinian campaign of violence was getting worse. An Islamic Jihad car
bun near Mahanch Yehuda market m Jesalem minred nearly a dozen people
and loft two dead. [amas blew up a school bus in one of the Gaza settlements.
killing two more peaple. In Hadera, halfway up the coast from Tel Aviv to Haifa, a
car bomb on mam street left fwo people dead and more than 60 injured.
Palestinian snipers from near Bethlehem began opening fire on Gilo, ou of the
post-1967 Teswish suburbs of Jerusalem, and home to more than 30.000 people. Yet
despite all this, 1 autharized Shlomo Ben-Ami, Gili Sher, Amnon Lipkin and Yossi
Ginossar Lo continue talks with Palostinian nogotiators on the terms of the
President's last-ditch peace proposal.
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By the end of November. T believed that the chances of a peace agreement with
Arafat were so microscopic as lo border ou non-existent, and thal my own
ospects far retaining sufficient support fo be an effective Prime Miniscer much
beyond Clinton's departuse were nal much better. 1 wis not just Arik and the
Likud. but other pactics on the right thal were actively alempling Lo briog down
the government. I was being squeezed politically: by opposition to the concessions.
specially on Jerusalem, I'd heen willing to consider in pursuit of a peace
aprcement. aud by the ever-worsening Palestinian violence. Shlomo Ben-Ami put
it best, saying that in the view of most Israelis, “Arafat's response to Camp Dayid
was not peace, it was an intifada.”
By the second part of Novenber, there were five separate motions of no-
confidence working their way through the Knesset. T could have quashed them all
ata single stroke, since Arik, both publicly and privately, was canveying fo me his
continuing terest in joining a oily coalition. Bul T again decided against it, at
his stage nol so much because T expected a peace deal, but because [believed
continued Israeli engagement in the peace process was essential to preventing
Aral from evading his responsibihily for malimg a deal impossible
Teould also have wrongfooled ny opponcuts by insisting that ay cay election
be not just for a new Prime Minister but for a new Knesset, something very few
existing Knesset members were anxious to see happen. 1 did, in fact, do precisely
that a1 the end of November, delaying an immediate move tw try to topple the
government. But T immediately regretted doing it. The game-playing side of
Dalitics was the part | least understood, and most disfiked. 1 recognized that to
bring down the Kuessel along with me would be nnfiir 10 the couniry, not lo
mention my own Labor Pacty, which still had the largest aumber of parliamentary
seats. In pursuing my peace efforts with Hafez al-Assad, and at Camp David, I'd
insisted | was acting on the mandate ['d received in the Prime Ministerial election.
Tr the peace efforts had failed, or if 2 significant pact of the country fell T was
wrong to have tried in the way I did. surely the responsibility for that. too, should
all an me.
remained confident | had been right 10 make the eTorts with Arafat, with
Assad, and. of course, to have followed through on my pledge to withdraw our
troops from canon, But beievimg that yon ure right, even if later events might
bear you uu, was not all that mattered in politics. You liad 0 be able 10 bring the
public with you. Tt was clear my support was ebbing away. Looking ahead to the
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challenges [sracl would face during Clinton's final peviod in office and afterwards,
Tknew I could not go further without seeking a fresh mandate from the county,
Tawever unlikely the prospects now seemed,
Deciding fo do so was a decision thal was probably casier for me thm for other
politicians. Privileged though 1 felt as Prime Minister w be able 10 pursue what |
felt deeply were Israel's national interests, the mappings of office were not that
mmportunt to me. 1d gone mio politics to do things. not for the photo opportunities,
Jabid still believe it was iportant to see te final diplomatic push by Clinton
through to its end. But 1 knew an <arly election for Prime Minister wouldn't
happen overnight, It would myolve a couple of months” preparation,
ve
When | ealled a news conference on December 9, the media, and the country,
assumed that il wes about the Palestinian violenee and the ups and downs of the
Clinton initiative, and 1 did talk about both, But at the end. | said: “There are those
wha doubt the mandate | received from the ertizens of Israel. | have decided to
seek a new mandate — to lead the state of Israel on the road to peace, security and a
proper civic and social agenda.” I said I would go see the Israeli President the
following morning, “0 will formally resim, and run for a special election, at the
head of the Labor Pasty. for the Prime Ministevship of Ismael”
The election was set for February 2001. The last act in Peesident Clinton's
attempt at a breakthrough actually came after the American election, and just a
month before George W. Bish wonld succeed him. Since, in pracucal ers, ny
final agreement would almost certainly come under President Bush, Clinton's final
‘negotiating paper was framed as a set of paramaters which, if agreed to by both
sides, were intended ta set the stage for a fimal deal. On December 23, Clinton
presented the drat to both sides” representatives at the White louse. | wasn't
there. But the accounts I got from Shlomo, Gili and Dennis Rass afterwards made
me feel as iF 1 was, The president said he would red through the document snd
then leave the Isaeli and Palestinian teams with Dennis w make sure they'd
recorded each detail. [Te said this was no longer the starting point for further
argument on the bse shape oF a peace deal. This was his considered judgement of
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what would constitute a fair agreement. TTe was presenting it an a take-il-or-leave-
it basis. IF either side said no. he would withdraw it, and it would not be binding on
President Bush.
He proceeded 10 Lay oul Ins proposal. 1tnow envisiged the Palestinians ending
up with between 95 and 97 pereent of the West Bank. Iseael's military prescnee in
the Jordan Valley would be for a maximum of six years. after which our soldiers
would be replaced by an intemational fore, On refugees, the solution Clinton
proposed would “make it clear there is no specific right of return Ww Israeli itsel™
ut recogaize “the aspiration of the Palestinian people to return to the area.” He
proposed a joint endorsement by Israel and the Palestinians of the right of refugees
10 vet to a now Palestinian stale. In Jensalem, Arafat would have sovereignty
over the entirety of the Old City except for the Jewish Quarter and, of couse, the
Western Wall and the “holy space of which itis 4 part.” Finally, the President said,
this would be a fined peace: an ead of conflict aod. voce implemeated, an cad to
any futher clainis. Tle wanted replies [rom Tscael and the Palestinians within five
days. Dennis added that. while both sides could come back with reservaions. if
any of these Rell ouside the substantive hmils of President Clintons parmnetes,
the sesponse would be interpreted as a “no” and our scarch for an agreement would
De over.
Clinton's latest proposals went beyond even wht 1 was will to have him
keep in bis pocket ac Camp David. Opposition politicians in Israel, and even a few
off our cabinet ministers. promptly objected tw the formula for Jerusalem. T told the
eritics as | knew I'd have to argue to the country in a referendum, m the
vanishingly unlikely event we acitally reached an sgrecement — that miking peace
was aot like making love. Tt was something you did with enemies. 1, 100. would
have preferred to say no to Clinton's ideas on Jerusalent. But to reject them would
have placed Israel in the position of rejecting the entire Clinton paper, something |
was not prepared to do.
I sent word to the President that we accepted his ideas. We did raise
reservations fwenty-cight in all, bout how various pitts of the agreement would
work on the ground. But none fell outside his parameters for peace spicement. At
first Arafat asked the Americans for more time. Then he went to Washington to see
Clinton, There, he presented his “reservations”. They were not just outside the
Clinton parameters. They rejected two key elements. Arafat said there could be wo
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Tscacli sovercigoly over the Western Wall of the ancient temple. Noe would he
agree to any compromise on the “right of return.”
For me, that was the tinal answer. As one Palestinian leader remarked to me
amd the still-cscalating temor attacks @ couple of years later, the Palestinians had
“needed a Ben-Gurion, bul we got an Avafar™ He didn’t mean Ben-Gurion the
Zionist. but the statesman who at crucial moments like the partition vote in 1947,
could give up his maximulist hopes and dreams in order to sceure a better future
Tor his people. Arafal fell much more comfuriable, more sceure, when the suicide
Tombers were calling, the tune. Then he could whip up the crowds with promises of
“miechmyz on Jerusalem” or jet round the world telling everyone that Ismael was
denying his right 10a state.
Though | now knew an agseenient was impossible, for many on the Lsracli lef,
‘my ostensible allies in the forthcoming election campaign against Arik, that was
see 10 accept. Parteularly for Yossi Surid of Meretz, and 10 2 cerin extent Yossi
Leilin too, the vuly explanation for vur failure tw get a deal had to be thal we
hadn't negotiated well or creatively enough. The idea that Aratat simply didn’t
wimt a two-state peice was anathema to them, So was the political platform [ssid
that {hoped to implement if | was re-clected as Prime Minister, Maybe, al some
point in the future, a negotiated peace might be possible. We had accomplished
something of importance at Camp David, We'd made clear our red lines, We knew
where Analut stood. But for now. 1 believed we had to move on, both in order lo
keep the situation on the ground from getting worse and 1 act in Israel's own long-
term political and security interests. I said we should unilaterally disengage from
the West Bunk and Guava.
The idea was straightforward. The Palestinians” unwillingness o accept even
the final Clinton parameters, driven home with murderous terocity by the
explosion of violenee since Camp David, should not be allowed 10 panlyze Issel
politically. I proposed thal we map oul Lhe area we required to retain and scourc the
major settlement blocs, as well as the outer Cast Jerusalem suburbs: a further
security strip along the Jordan River; and several other strategically important
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paints. Tt would amount Lo retaining contcol aver around 20 percent of the West
Bank, but none of the major Arab lows or cities. Though deliberately stopping
well shart of share of the West Bank Arafat could have secured through i
negotiated peace, it wonkd remove lsmaeh troops and seks from most of the
teeritory. It would give the Palestinians ample room lo set up a state if they so
chose, and conceivably to expand its area if some future leader had more of the
“Ben-Gurion” in him than Arafat. Until then, it would allow both of uur peoples to
ton with their lives and focus vn their own political and social and cconomic
challenges
‘There was a second. critically important part to what 1 was proposing: the
onstnetion of a physical scourily fence along the now “disengagement line with
the West Bank. Tt was the suggestion rejected under Rabin, acoepted under Peres
amid the Hamas bombings in he 1996 election campaign, but never followed
through an. Even under the new arcangemeat I envisaged, Tsraeli Loops would
cetain the freedom of action 1o respond Lo, or pre-empt. tersor attacks with Lacgeted
operations inside the West Bank. But the physical barrier would hugely increase
aur abit fo hall the auackers before they could sirike
Yet even if I'd been able 10 bring those on the left of Labor behind thie plan, this
election campaign was poing: to be a lot tougher than in 1969. Since Knesset
members waren’! running for their seats, the Labor machme lacked its usual
incentive put up posters, knack on doors, or gel out the vote. Arik, however,
benefited (om the enthusiasm of Likudniks and other right-wing activists who saw
an opportunity to retake control of Israel's political agenda.
Long before election day. | realized my time as Prime Minisier was up. Before
the campaign began, an old friend of mine, a leading Israeli journalist, tried to talk
me into withdrawing. “You're going to lose, Ehud.” he said. “Why, after making
all this effort for peace, afler doing your best, do you wanl thie last act lo be losing
10 Arik?” I'd never seen the objective as just staying in office. If that had been the
case, | wouldn't have put the chances of a peace deal with Syria fo their final test. {
wouldn't have gone fo Camp David, | also would have acecpled Arik’s serial
ffs 10 join a unity coalition. But never in my life had | walked away from a
challenge. T certainly wasn't going to retreat in the midst of Palestinian violence,
and when sriel stil faced key decisions on how to mave on from Arafar’s
unreadiness io negotiate an end w our decades-old con flict
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1 did regret being unable to rely on the support of two key constituencies that
had helped deliver my landslide victory barely 8 months earlier: my own Laboe
Party and the Aral citizens of Iseael, | had no frouble understanding fhe reasons
many (srieli Arabs sere abandoning me. The lashes in the Galilee al the stan of
the sew intifada had le mose than 2 dozen of thee community dead. As an official
inquiry would later conclude, there was blame on all sides. A number of Arab
members of the Knesset liad played a part in inciting the violence. Yet the police
had heen unprepared, and they had used excessive free. As [said publicly before
the election. I as Prime Minister, was ultimately responsible, and 1 formally
apologized for what had happened, Yet the roots went deeper, to the economic and
social disadvantages still faced by many Arab eitizeus, and the difficulty in
resolving those problems calmly and collectively as long as Istael remained ina
state of war with its Arab neighbors.
Tor Labor and the political lefL, it wes as if, despite Arafat's repeated rejections
of ever more fortheomiog terms of peace. they still couldnt bring themselves to
believe he really meant it. By default, they were inclined ro blame me for not
delivering peace. | was neeused of relying foo mich on a close eireke of aides and
acgotiators ['d knaven from my time in the army. of not giving a negotiating ok lo
Labor veterans of the Oslo negotiations like Yossi Beilin. and of being
msulficiently sensitive 1o Arafat's needs in Lhe negotiating process. Typical of the
argument was a broadside by the journalist and historian Tom Segev, in fa aretz,
which accused me of an “incredible arrogance” which had “led to an historic
mistake. Rather than continue on the Oslo road, Barak put it into his head that he
could reach u final sciilement and try aud impose it on the Palestinian Authority
President.” T did not try to “impose” anything on Arafat. T did, quite consciously.
abandon the “Oslo road” because it was inexorably leading to a situation where,
after the final Wye redeployment, Arafat would have control aver the reat
majority of the West Bank without having lo commit to any of the assurances that
‘even most on the Israeli left would define as the minimum required for peace.
Now, of course, we knew tht was something the Palestmian leader was not
prepared to do
When election day came, not that many of my critics on the left actually voted
azuinst me. Nor did the Israeli Arabs. Yet in very large numbers, they simply
didn’t vole. In percentage terms, Asik's victory was even more decisive than mine
over Bibi. Tle got more than 62 percent of the vote. I received barely 37 percent
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Yet the wenout was the lowest in Tsracli history. Arik received fewer votes than T
bad in 1999. Acound half of the 1.8 million people who had supported me stayed au
home,
1 conceded deft ailer he first exit polls and sid 1 would be stepping down as
head of the Labor Pasty. Still, since the election bad bea only for Prine Minister,
Labor remained the largest party in the Knesset. Mathemarically, Arik might be
able to cobble together the required 61-seat mapority with un assortment of smaller
pavtics. Bul without Labor as ballast, his government would be even more
precarious than mine. When I triggered the election, he'd let it be known that if he
won, he hoped to include [bor in his government, with me as his Defense
Minister. Even though 1°d anounced 1 wis stepping ssid. he phoned me the
morning after the election tv make that argument again. Ile said Israel needed a
strange government, especially to confront the escalating violence, Having a person
with my background, whom he kaew well and trusted, in the defense portfolio was
important. I didn’t say yes. Unloctunately, I failed to do what I should have dove:
didn't immediately say no.
When the public leaned about Sharon’s interest in i umty goverment, Labor
descended ino bickering. Some of my former ministers, like Yossi Beilin and
Shlomo Ben-Ami, were against the idea of joining any Likud-led government.
“They were especially disuusted by the prospeet of domyg so under Arik, the
archileet of the 1982 Lebanon War. Most of the Labur’s central commitlee did
seem in favor of joining. But given the scale of my election defeal, many wanied
do so without me, For a few days, Arik kept phoning me. | did feel that the
substanes of the amungement he suggested made sense. Bus over tha first week, |
realized thal, understandably. he had litle interest in addressing my policy
concerns. I decided to focus instead on ensuring a properly organized transition to
anew Labor purty leader, amd publicly confirmed that | would indeed be resigning
Several weeks after Arik formed his government — including Labor, with Simon
Peres as ane of four deputy prime ministers he invited me to his office. He
wimted lo ask my views on u specific security question. That fook barely 15
minutes. But 1 raised another issue that argued would have more far-reaching
implications. Tt was the idea of building the security fence along the West Bank.
1d tried to mike the case for domg so during the election campaign, and I'd lost
the election. “Now I'm fuming fo you. When [lef uffice, 39 Isvaclis bad been
killed in the tercor attacks. Now, there are 70. When the number reaches 700.
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thece’s no doubt you'll decide to build this fence. But to your dying day. you wont
be able 10 look yourself in the mircor and explain why you waited for another 630
Israelis to die first.”
He did eventually strt building it, but only m the wike of wn act of terrorism
which, even by the standards of this new and still-escalating intifada, was truly
abscene. In March 2002, suicide bombers murdered 30 people, mostly elderly, as
they were celebrating the annual Passover Seder m a hotel dining room m Netanya,
Arik bil back two days Later with Israel's krgest miliary opesation on the West
Bank since 1967. Israeli forces retook major Palestinian towns, placed Aratat
under de fucto siege in hus headquarters m Ramallah and imposed curfews and
elosures. In June, the government formally approved the seourity ence. Still,
another year would pass before the major part of the barcier was in place, by which
time sume 500 Israelis had been murdered in the terrar attacks, Only then did the
number of casualties begin to fall
1 tried Lo steer elear of public eriticism of Arik's government. One of the lessvos
Td learned as Prime Minister was how easy it was to second-guess from the
outside. No Prime Minister can act exactly as he might plan or want 10, The most
vou can do is make sure you understand and analyze the issues and follow your
instiners, experience and conscience to came as near as possible to doing what you
beheve is right, You will mevitably mike mistakes and misjuduements, | certainly
did. Al least some of the criticism | received was deserved. 1 was at limes loo
inflexible. T tended to limit my focus to a small group of rusted aides and advisors.
Twits less good ut schmoozing with ar, perhaps more importantly, delegating to
thers in the government or the party. [ suspect it’s no coincidence thal the man
who brought me into government in the fiest place was olen criticized for the same
things. By character, instinct and experience, Rabin. tao. remained less a politician
than amitary mm. Yet towards the end af bis sceond period as Prime Minister,
be did et better at delegating to people around him, and creating an atmosphere
that encouraged teamwork, even when he knew he could not accept or act on
everything they might suggest. During my term as Prime Mister, | was much loss
good at that
But another thing Yitzhak and I shared was a determination to set ourselves
specific goals and do everything we could to achieve them. [ promised to get the
army out of Lebanon. With the Palestinians, [arrived in office convinced that the
process begun in Oslo was both a huge opportunity and a potential dead-end. T was
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determined 10 focus on Lhe cod goal: initially, at least, a framework agreement, and
over time a (inal political eesolution of our conflict. Ever since the outbreak of the
Palestinians” firss intifada, | believed this was as much in Israel’s own interest as
thers. Yet when Centered office, we had no way of knowing whether Arafat
wanted two states living side-by-side in peace. © felt it was my duty to find out,
and, if the answer was yes, to put a peace agreement iu place. I felt the same about
way about Syria and Hafez al-Assad
When lel ollie, 1 believed had scehieved the most important goals of my
premiership. We were out of Lebanon. Though we couldn't achieve the peace
anzreements | had hoped for, it was not for fack of trying, Along the way, Ismiel ud
demonsteated 1o the world that it was able and willing lo consider painful
compromises, and that it was the Arab leaders who, at least for now, were unequal
ta the challenge of making peace. [f I'd been able ta retain the backing of the
volers who made me Prime Minister in 1999. we might even have moved ahead on
unilatecal discogagement from the Palestinians. dramatically altering the trajectory
of our relationship. Yet even without that, Camp David did delineate the terms of
amy future peace amagement. When ae iF conditions il lowed i restumpiion of
serious negotiating efforts, the shape, and indeed most of the details. ora final
peace between our peoples were now clear.
Twas on holiday in the summer of 2001 when Clinton phoned me. 7he New
Times had run a picec on how and why the summit, and the subsequent
negotiations through the end of the year, ended in failuce. When T later read the
article, by the Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter Deborah Sontag, | found it a
meandering mix of opinions garnered from an assortment of Americans,
Turopeans, Iscaclis and Palestinians. including Arafet himsell, with the overall
conclusion thar Clinton and I had not offered as cenerous a deal as was assumed
ancl tha 3 was somehow unfair 10 sugwest the Palestinians deserved blame Gor
ejecting it. There liad been several other articles in various publications along the
same lines. [ didn’t see much point ar this stage in setting the record straight. To
the extent the content of the Times piece bothered me, at wis a simple, but
important, enor of fact. Quoting Arafat himself, Sontag wrote that during the back-
patio discussion I had with him at the dinner in Kochav Yair shordy before the new
intifada. he'd “implored me to block Mr Sharon’s plans” ta visit the Temple
Mount. Arafat dida’t raise the issue at all, and presumably knew that we had
consulted his West Bank security chief 1o ensure it happened quickly, avoided the
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mosques on the Taram, and would not become a catalyst, or in this case a pretest,
for violence.
Yet the revisionist history about our peace efforts left Clinton not jusc
Trustrted, bul wenuinely puzzled. What the hell were these people talk boul, he
asked me. Why were they missing the forest for the trees. “he rue story of Camp
David,” he said. “was that for the first time in the history of the conflict, you and I,
the Prime Mimister of Isrucl und the President of the United States, placed on the
table a proposal, based on Resolutions 242 and 338, very elose to the Palestinian
demands. And Aratat reused to accept it as a basis of negotiations, walked out of
the room, und deliberately tumed fo terromsm.” All the rest, President Clinton suid,
wis gossip.
All of it was now isrelevau. Loo. 11s parameters were of the lable. Palestinian
vialence against Istaelis was gefting ever deadlier. And | was out of politics. When
1 delivered my final vamirks lo a Labor Party meeting, | wis asked whether [was
leaving politics for good. 1 replied that | would always main a member of Labor.
But [saw my role as a bit like when I'd Teft the amy. “I'm a reserve officer,” |
sil, acting that hoped would not be called buck to duty my time soon.
1 had heen Prime Minister for aly 21 months. But Id been in polities for six
years. and in uniform for nearly thirty-six: in public service for more than four
decades. Now, suddenly. 1 was « private citizen, And foro few years, 1 actually
stayed thal way.
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Chapter Twenty-Four
Thad only a geaecal idea of what T would do next. “Something in business”
describes it best. But 1 sought the advice of a friend who, rather than leaving
politics, had just entered iL. Colin Powell was now the second President Bush's
Searetacy of State. “Why don’L you 20 on the lecture ciceuit?” he said. The short
answer was that it hadn’t occurred w me that ['d be any good at it, But it proved
anrgering snd interesting both Ror me and. it seemed. the andienies | spoke lo. [8
was also lucrative. | would deliver four lectures over the span of a week and ead up
‘making twice what, until that point in my life, Thad earned during a full year. Iwas
also malted onto a number of company boards, 1 med down sore, in order 10
avoid even the appearance of a contlict of interest. But 1 did get involved in an area
where I believed my range of experiences might be relevant: investment decisions,
and venture capital.
The result was a drumatic chinee in lifestyle. Nava and [gol 10 spend more
Lime with our daughters. We vacationed overseas for the (iest time. We also
decided t build a new home, und the place hat we chose gave me my first
experince of how far | was from being « “private citizen” in he eyes of the lsrach
public. When it became known we were planning to move to Kfar Shmaryahu near
Tel Aviv, one of the wealthiest places in Istael. all hell broke loose. [ow coutd
you wis asked | couldn't resist joking that | just wanted 1 be close 1a one
voters. Likud supporters were about as rare in Klar Shmacyahu as panhandlers.
Along with Mishmar ITasharon. it was the only place where I'd polled over 80
pacent even in my loss lo Sharon
Israel had changed dramatically from the kibbuiz-centered pioneer socicly of
my youth. Greater Tel Aviv, in particular, was thriving economically. and the
rismy crop of millionaires, whether from traditional business or in the bourgzeoning
technology sector, included its Geir share of former kibbuumikim. Sill, socially and
culturally, a puritanical streak remained. a sense that there was something not quite
right about people raised on a socialist ideal becoming personally well off. 1
aecepled this. | recomized thal | wis nol just a former kibbataik. 1 had been head
of the Labor Party. And Prime Minister. Sull. [did feel much of the personal
criticism was unfair. 1 had devored more than four decades of my life to serving
my country. I'd behaved with sermpulows honesty while in office, and was avoiding
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any business involvement that could present a conflict of intevest now that Thad
lel. Praokly. T saw nothing wrong with earning money through honest endeavor,
and using the proceeds to provide economic security for myselt and my family,
and fo gave our grandchildren s beller start in hfe than Rava’s or my own parents
had been able to do.
Tn the end, we didn’t move to Kfar Shmaryahu. But that was because of an even
more profound ehinge im my fife: 1 separated from Nava, after more than 30 years
wwgcther, When we had begun plans 1 ose, §langhed oT a warming from i
psychologist friend of mine that decisions like building a new house could lead to a
deeper reassessment of vour life, But that is af least in part what happened. There
were also other changes that eased me tw stop snd take stock. | was no louger
Prime Minister. My father had passed away soon after 1 Jefl office. Professionally,
wis exploring new areas and developing new interests, Nava and [ had been
happily mardied since our Lweoties. We had three wonderful daughters, and a ficst
eandchild. Yet the more I thought about where we were inoue lives, the more [
felt our future paths were pulling us in different directions. For both of us, the
separation was difficult, though it wis mace a bil less painful because Nava knew
that it had nothing to do with another woman, or another relationship. [ did
imagine that 1 might one day meer someone else. But Iwas equally prepared for it
ot happening. | certamly didn’t expect it ay time soon.
When it dic, it began by accident. A few weeks afier onr separation, [was
visiting the Knesset for a discussion about fixing Tstael’s broken electoral system.
In the andience was 1 member of one of the ¢ivie associations pressing for reform:
Nii Pricll, say first, und only, serious girliend before met Nuva, We spoke for a
Few minutes allecwards. We agreed lo meet again. and catch up with cach other's
lives, a week or so later. Both of us now had grown children. We were both on our
awn. There is, [assume for everyone, something impossible 10 replicate abo s
first love. Nili and T were givea an unlikely second chance. That seemed to me an
exwaordinary gift. It still does.
Yet if my personal life scemed full of new promise, the same could not be suid
of the country I'd served for my whole adult life. ar of the political panty 1d led
into government. The continuing construction of the security fence along the West
Rank finally did begin to reduce the sheer number of Palestmian attacks: from
nearly 50 in 2002, 10 about hall that number in 2003. Bu the suicide bombers who
did get through — from Tames, Islamic Jihad and Fateh’s “Al-Aqsa Martyrs’
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Brigade” - struck wherever they could inflict the most terror, and death: at bus
stations, on buses, in shopping centers, restaurants and cafés. Over a 12-month
period, beginning with a bombing of Tel Aviy’s main bus station at the beginning
of haary 2003, they murdered 145 man, women and ehildren. 1 wonld not be
until Lwo years” later, with the West Baok fence in place and a range of othee
security measures, that the attacks, and the deaths. were finally brought down
dramatically.
“Ihe Labor Party had finally lef Arik Sharon’s coalition in late 2002. But in
Israel's 2003 election reverting to the old rules again, with a single vote for party
and Prime Mumister Arik and the [kd won resoundingly, They doubled their
Knesset seats. 10 38. Labor, now with only 19 scats, against tired to Shimon
Peres, as interim party leader.
1 didn’t miss the political limelight, But by mid-2004, with the first sigm of a
aor hinge in policy toward the Palestinians, | Rell | hid a contribution to make.
What fist prompted me to dip sy toes back. into polities were the ever more
abvious signs throughout 2004 that Arik’s coalition, and his hold on the Likud.
were unraveling. Pant of his problem was a study drimbeat of compton
allegations around what had become a kind of Family political operation: Arik aud
his two sons, Omri and Gilad. But Arik also seemed to be undergoing a welcome
palitical conversion, to the need for the more profound political “disengagement”
with the Palestiviaus which I'd lng been advocating, He ud endorsed the Bush
Administcation’s “road map” for resuming the peace process. Yet with Yasis
Arafat ageing, ailing and even less inched to consider the difficult decisions he
hal shirked at Camp David, Arik wen! one, dramatic siep farther. He raised the
idea of unilaterally withdcawing Israeli forces and settlements from Gaza —
ensuring a showdown with the rank and file of the Likud. and other parties on the
right. His main Likud rival, very much back in front-line staf politics, was bis
Finance Minister: Bibi Netanyahu. Though Bibi semained oa board until the last
‘moment, he dramatically resioned for the cabinet in August 2005. a week before
the Gaza withdrawal, decking: “1 am not prepared to be i pariner to a move
which ignores reality. aud proceeds blindly wward turaing the Gaza Sup into &
base for Islamic terrorism which will threaten the state.”
To this day. Bibi, along with many Israelis across the political spectrum, draws
a dire fine between our pullout From Gaza, Hamas's takeuver and its violent
purging of Tatah's old guard there. and the periodic wars we've had to fight since
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then in response to TEamas rocket fire into Tseacl. The mocal: Arik was wrong lo
withdraw. But the Islamists” ascendancy was happening anyway. Afer all, it was
Hamas attacks that provided the spearhead of the intifada of terror launched in the
wake of Ciamp David. Arafat's own miluence was also inexorably on the wane by
the time be passed away. in Paris, a1 the end of 2004, 10 be succeeded by Abu
Mazen. 1 do not know of a single senior figure in Israel with any military
axpesicace who believes that we would be more secure today if we still had
thousands of soldiers and settlers inside Gaza. Surprised though 1 was by Arik's
decision to leave, 1 had na doubt that the fundamental security judgment he was
making that a disenjzagement was in Tscael’s own interest was the right one. |
was encouraged, loo, by his parallel amouncemnent of a small, token withdrawal
from a few small West Bank settlements. My regret ac the time was that he did not
£0 further toward the kind of major West Bank disengagement I'd been arguing
Tor, and hat even in Gaza the pullout seemed insulTiciently prepared or thought
out. The model, T believed, should have been our withdrawal from Lebanon —
involving detailed prior consultation with, and political support from, the UN and
key infemational allies, also felt it was erincally important to ensure that, while
we would obviously need offshore pawrols 10 prevent arms and munitions from
getting in, we allowed and encouraged an environment in which the Gazan
eonomy could function and grow after we left. None of that happened. Though we
Ie Giza, we effectively scaled of und blockided ane of the most densely
populated, economically strapped and politically febrile strips of land on the face
af the earth,
SHI 1 did se 1 us tn smportant first step toward the kmd of wider
disengagement that would prioritize Tscael’s own security interests, and political
and social cohesiveness. until and unless conditions allowed a for a serious new
effort for u final peace deal, 1 was heartened when Shimon fed Libor back inte
Adil’ coalition at the start of 2008 wo ensuce he'd have the support necessary 10 go
through with the Gaza withdrawal. And while 1 did make a brief attempt to rerun
as party leader bater in the year, when it was clear {wasn’t going to win, | threw
ay support behind Shimon and agaiast the other challenger. the longtime labor-
union leader Amir Peretz, who was runing on a platforr to take Labor out of
Sharon's govemment,
But Peretz wan the leadership election. He did leave the cabme, forcing Arik 10
call an early election for March 2006. And that, along with the most ambitious and
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ill-fated Tsracli war in Lebanon since 1982, was the reason 1 ultimately found
myself beck in the Israeli government
Te began on July 12, 2006, when Tizbollah fired rockets from southern Lebanon
as cover for un ambush of two Israch Humvees on our side of the border. Two
soldiers were killed, and two others ahducied. A few hours later, when un scacli
armored unit crossed to look for the kidnapped soldiers, an explosive charge blew
up one of our tanks, lalling four of its crew members,
Arik was no longer Prime Minister by then. With Bibi marshalling opposition
inside the Likud to the Gaza disenagepment. he had formed a new centrist party
called Kadima, along with prominent I ikud moderates and buttressed by a |.abor
heavyweight: Shimon Peres. Bul before the lection, Ak suffered a pair of
strokes, lapsing into a coma [rom which he vould never emerge. is notional
deputy, the veteran Likud politician and former Jerusalem mayor Eaud Olmert,
found lmmself as Prime Mimster. Kadima did comfortably win the May election, If
<nded up with 29 seats, followed by Labor with 19 aud leaving the Netanyahu-led
Likud with only 12. Olmert formed a coalition, including Labor, which had
undeniable political ballast: Shimon wis one of his deputy Prime Ministers, along
with Haim Ramon. The gified lawyer, longtime Likudnik sud strong backer of the
Gaza plan, Tzipi Livni. was Foreiga Minister. Amir Peretz. as head of Labor, was
sven fhe Defense Ministry, But without Sharon himself a the helm, the
overnment was now shout to face s military crisis with virtually no military
experience around the cabinet table
Olmert called an emergency cabinet meeting on the eveaiag of the Iizbollah
aaek, and ust before al was due to converte, my phone rng, 11 was Shimon, who,
though with no first-hand any experience, did at least have the political
‘experience in war that none of Olmert's ofher ministers could offer. He'd been by
RBen=Gunon’s side durmg the 1956 war, had been mn Golda®s govemment in 1967,
and was Defense Minister aller the 1973 war, though Entebbe, until Begin's
defeated Labor in the 1977 election. Despite our own battles inside Labor, Shimon
and 1 had become closer agam of late, especially after I'd supported him m his fist
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Labor leadership contest. “Shalom, Ehud.” be said when T answered the phone and.
without small talk or preliminaries, asked me: “What do you think we should do?”
15aid 1 couldn't offer specific suggestions. “It's a detail-related question, and 1
dont know the details.” But 1 advised nm on the process | fell would be needed to
come up with the right answer sehen te chief-of-staff, the former air force ehicl
Dan Halurz, briefed the cabiner. “Halutz will propose what to do. Psi him." 1
sid. “When he prosents his recommended ction, asl him for his assessment of
what Hizbollsh will do in response. When be, or the head of military intelligence,
has given you the range of possibilities and told you which is the most likely, say.
OK, let's assume that happens, What's our rent step? Hows is that gome to lead us
10 ous sain objectives? And what are the objectives?” Newspaper reports the nest
moraing said that Shimon, and only Shimon. did indeed press the chief-ol-stafl
about each further stage of the operation and bout the aims that we wanted to
accomplish. Bul ITelutz finally fobbed him off by saying that once they gat lo the
Tater phases. they could discuss it
From the first reports I received through my army contacts. T feared the
aperation would go badly. There was no doubt we could inflict damage on
Hizbullah. But there were no clear answers to the questions Shimon had raised.
The initial Israeli air force response had been put in place more than five years
<arhicr, when [was Prime Minister, Codenamed “Operation Cinnamon Sticks,” it
was dosigned to lake ou ll of the fixed Uizbollah missile sles we hed been able
to identity. We knew its limitations. A lot of the rockets wee fired from mobile
faunchers. But in one exercise, the known “Hizbollah” sites were replicated in the
Galilee. hey were destroyed in 43 mines. {had no donbl that part of the plan
would succeed. Tn the early hours of July 13. it took valy 34 minutes to destroy the
nearly 60 launchers we had pinpointed over the previous five years.
But Operation Cinnamon Sticks had been futended as a first step in a far wider
assault on | lizbollah and other targets. including a number of infrastructure
installations, deeper inside [.ebanon. It was part of a plan for a full-scale war, if the
government decided that was necessary. As the early public statements by Olmert
and other ministers made clear, they did not intend 10 start a war, at least at the
outset. They certainly didn't have a coherent plan for one. But they would soon
find themselves in Israel's longest single armed conflict singe 1948, When
Hizbullah fired hundreds of missiles ot Lsrachi wens and cities, vur operation
intensified not by plan or military logic, but improvisation. As a former Prime
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Minister. T felt it was not my place 10 eriicies Olmert publicly welen Tseacli troops
were inaction. Two days in, in fect, I wld a lelevision interviewer that the
government had every right to respond and was doing so effectively, Olmert
phoned lo thank me. When he, like Stmmon, asked whit 1 thought the goverment
should do next, © was steaightforward: “Do your best 10 bring things 10 aa end as
soon as you can.” I said that Ilalucz and the other generals would be caught up in
the aperatiouzl details, which made his role and that of the cabinet even more
weitical. “In any operation, you'll have an idea about what represents a satisfactory
exit point. But there will be a temptation, when you get close to that point, to take
just one more step, to keep going until you're absolutely sure you've reached it.”
Resist that temptation, | okt hin. | said there was a danger that, before they kow
it, he and the other minister would be in way over their heads.
In pure military terms, there were just rwo realistic choices in responding the
Tlibzollah attack: a deliberately limited and (airly brief vperation, or a full-scale
wae. We ended up doing neither. The resull was an operation that lasted 34 days,
nearly twice the length of the Yom Kippur War. Our air force flew 12,000
missions, more thin in 1973 and nearly twice as many ws in the 1982 1.cbauon
War. Hizbollah ficed about 4.000 rockets into [sracl — fom a stockpile we
estimated to number nearly 20,000 — and not just at the border settlements but as
Far south as Haders amd Hani, keeping hundreds of thousands of 1sraclis wader
effective siege. More than 120 Jseacli soldiers and 44 civilians were killed. Sv were
hundreds of Ilizbollah fighters and, inevitably, many Lebanese civilians as well.
with a predictable surge of criticism from much of the outside world. Only
President Bush and Britain's Tony Blair sieadfastly reminded the erilics of how the
war had actually begun
The ane putative victory for Israel was the UN cease-fire resolution that Tzipi
Livan helped to negotiate in August. Al leas! on paper, il contsined s commitment
10 a “long-term solution” including the disarmarient of Hizbollab and the
“unconditional release of the abducred Israeli soldiers. which has given rise to the
current exisis.” Bus as [snk newspapers begin speaking 1 the retming soldiers
and officers, a pietuee emerged ool just of a long and difficult war, but a lack of
clearly communicated military objectives, and an often-chaotic chain of command,
‘which ended up costing Israeli lives. Our tinal advance, alone, shartly betore the
cease-fire, claimed the lives of some 30 soldiers. And for what, many lsvaclis were
soon asking themselves. One of the newspapers most supportive of the operation at
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the beginning summed up the feeling of most of the county at the end: “IF you
don’t win, you lose... Tlizbollah survived Tt woo the war.”
Without the botched handling of the war, 1 might well have remained a mere
member of the Labor Party and a private citizen, But when the commission of
inquiry released its report in April 2007, three people were singled out: Olmert,
Amir Peretz and Halutz. Olmert was portrayed as a military novice who'd gone
mio battle without understanding the wartime role and responsibilines of « Prime
Minister. Halub's “oxcess of charisma” was held responsible for keeping
‘ministers, and military officers as well, trom questioning his judgement or pressing,
hum for altematives. Amir Peretz wits found to be the wrong man in the wrong
cabinet post al the wrong time. OF he three, only Haut seemed ready to ke
personal responsibility. Even before the report came out, he resigned. Olmert and
Peretz were determmed to stay pur, despite calls to quit not just from the
apposition bul from Tzipi Livai. Tnside Labor as well, the war produced a clamor
Tor change. When a vole for pasty chaieman wes held in June 2007, T was chosen to
return in Peretz’s place.
Within days, 1 replaced him as Defense Minster as well, Yet the min ilem m
my in-box sould no louger be Lebanon. | liad been briefed a few weeks carlior by
‘Olmert on a threat hundreds of miles further away: a construction site in northeast
Syriu, along the Euphrates River, where Mossad hid uncovered evidenes that the
Syrians. with technical help from North Korea and funding from Iran, were
building a nuclear reactor.
ve a
Thad got to know Olmert fairly well over the years, initially when 1 was in the
Sirya nd both be and another visi | iknd politieian lo whom {heesme closer,
Dan Meridor, were members of the Knesset's defense committee. But from the day
1 returned to the Israeli government in June 2007, there was growing tension
between ns aver dealing with the Syrian nuclear threat, It was not boul wieder
we should take military action lo destroy the reactor, before the fuel rods arrived
on site and it could begin producing bomb-ready material. Just as under Menachem
Regin in 1981, when we'd lannched our preemptive strike on Suddam Hussein's
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reactor near Baghdad, there was never any question thal we would take any and all
possible measures to prevent Syria from getting a nuclear weapon. An immutable,
core assumption in Israel’s security smateiry was the need to retain our ability fo
deter, and if necessary defea, our enemies. A nuclear Syrie — or Ina, or ran
would dramatically alter the balance of power in the region, at obvious risk to
Israel. Syria posed a particular threat, as part of an increasingly close alliance with
Iran, and with Llizbollah in Lebanon.
“The question, however, was how and when 10 strike the reactor. Olmert wanied
to attack within days. He seemed to assume that. as a former chief of statf. ['d nod
enthusiastically and go alam with him, {did understind the reasans for his sense
of urgency. Not only did we hive to mike sure we atuscked before the fel was on
site. There was always the risk the Syrians would find out that we were aware of
ther nuelear facility, putting them on even higher alert, But the operational
challenge was complex. We need a fail-safe plan lo destroy the reactor. We had ©
do itin such a way a3 10 avoid a full-scale military confrontation with Syvia il’
possible. And we had to ensure we were ready for that, if it did happen. It took
very litte time for me wo realize thal none of those prerquisties wis ye! in phice
Not unlike the recent Lebanon war, we were ¢hoosing between two ofl-the-shell
plans from the fry. One involved using a large military force, and would almost
cortainly daw ins into a major conflict with Syn. The other was a smaller,
Lacecled operation. But it remained unlested, and there was no certainty it would
acrually destroy the reactor.
Over the next few months, Olmert got more and more trustrated with the tact
we hadn't yet attacked, and frustrated with me as well. We held dozens off
meetings. sometimes lwo of thee a day, chaiced by the Prime Minister, sometinies
Dy me as Defense Minister, or by the chief of staft or service commanders.
Invariably, | began my remarks by saying: “We bisve to destroy the reactor.” This
wag nol because T felt that any of us seriously doubled that. TL was because Olmert
was beginning to suggest to the few ministers and senior officers aware of our
plang thet | was weainst wlackng the reactor. In fact, | was working with the
military and Mossad to cusure we had a plan that would succeed, with the
minimum possible risk of drawing us into a major clash with the Syrians after the
tacility was destroyed. | was also working with fhe help of the Americans ta
make sure we could get the forees and munitions in place in the north of [sracl w
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deal with a major conflict with the Syrians. All of this. under a tight seal of
secrecy
Finally, in <arly September 2007, everything was in place. Olmert brieted the
cabin, snd scenred the ministers” approval to destroy the reactor, with the
understanding that the precise liming of the operation would now be lefl wo the
Prime Minister, the Defense Minister and the Foreign Minister: Olmert, me and
“T7pi Livni. The three of us met immediately after the cabinet discussion. Olmert
argued that the risk of leaks justified auacking thal night, and {agreed with him.
Tzipi was reluctant, but Olmert turned to her and said: “Are you sure you're
comfortuble with un uitack being ordered by me and Barak, while you chose fo
abstain?” She thought it over, and added her approval.
We struck just aflec midnight, in an intricately coordinated air autack tha.
evaded not only a Syrian respanse, but Syrian notice, The reactor was destroyed.
Althongh even toy the exact details remain subject to Isrcl’s military seercey
regulations. accounts published abrozd in the weeks and moths that followed
painted a surprisingly aceurate picture, includini the pioneering use of electronic
wrfure capabilities to deal with risk of acter detction. But in the immediate
aermiath uf the attack, lseael defiberately made wo public comment. We refused 10
say whether we'd had anything to do with an attack. As we he had hoped, this
allowed the Syrian President, Bashar al-Assad. both the space and 1 good reason to
deny that it had ever happened, deny that le'd been trying lo make a nuckeas
weapon. and thus feel no compelling reason to retaliate.
PE
‘The reactor operation, however. marked the start of au increasiagly tough
period in both my and Tipi”s relationship with Olmert. Policy wis not the
problem. These were no major security exises in the months ahead. But in the
spring of 200R, it became known that the Israeli police were investigating Olmert's
relationship wilh an American businessman sumed Moshe Talansky, ‘The
suggestion, initially in a New York paper and then the Isracli press. was thal
Olmert was guilty of taking bribes. In his first public response, he did't deny
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ceociving money from Talansky. But be insisted it was all a part of election
campaign evolributions.
Publicly, [ reserved judgement, “1 hape, for evervone’s sake, and for Prime
Minister Ofmer!’s sake. that the suspicwons now circulating turn out to be
baseless.” | wld a reporter. “Let's be patient.” Privately, [urged him to lake a leave
of absence and clear his name. Yet with other ministers convinced that would
make things worse, 1 held off doing anythmg else until there seemed to me no
choice, after Talinsky gave evidence in Jerusalem's District Court. Though he
‘enuinely seemed not to have expected anything specific in return. he said he had
wwven Olmert somethmg like $150,000 m cash, | called i news conference the next
day. | didnt say whether or uot { thought Olmert was auilty. | did say that |
believed he couldn't continue leading Lhe country while resolving his “personal
matters”, Things finally came to ahead in September 2008, When Kadima held
fresh leadership elections, Tzipi Livai won. Olwert contiemed he would step aside
for his successor. But under Israeli law, he would remain Prime Minister until she
either succeeded in forming a new government or called early elections. She opted
an the end for Option B, md the election wis set for Februsry 2009.
“That meant Olmert would still be Prime Minister for another three months.
We'd long been discussing the increasingly worrying sivaion in Gaza. After Arik
pulled out, an election had placed Hamas m power, after which the Islamists
<mbatkedd am # violent pure of Fatah loyalists, Arms smuggling through Lumels
{rom the Sinai had become rife. Rockets [rom Gaza were now landing on southern
Israel. Hundreds of thonsinds of Israelis were living with the reality of a warning
siren andl rapiel dash into their shelters. For a while, wid negotiations through
Taypt 10 end the rocket fire, we limited ourselves to sending small ground uaits
into Gaza to target the source of specific racker attacks. But thar was always going
10 eve only a limited effet. [also rn the risk of our soldicrs being abducted, or
killed.
Pressure was building for a major military operation. With the election drawing
rer, Bibi Netanyahu was reminding voters that he'd been agamst the pullout
from Ciaza, and saying that we should now hit Hanes hard. Both Ohnent and Trip,
along with most of the cabinet, were also in favor of doing so. But my long-held
view, remforeed by the recent war agaist Hizbollah in Lebanon, was that we hid
10 begin by deciding what we wanted lo accomplish, and what was possible. Only
then could we Lake action. T told the cabinet that, operationally, we were perfectly
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capable Lo taking over Gaza. Bul wha ther, T asked. Unless we were prepared to
resume open-ended [sracli conteol, we'd be lo with 110 one to cun Gaza
afterwards. The obvious candidte, Egypt, was even less interested than we were in
assuming esponsibility For the nore Hen onc-ancd-u-hall million Palestinians who
lived there. © doubted that even Arafat would have been ready 10 do so. But
relations had only worsened. since his death in 2004, between the Fatah old guard
in the Palestinian Authority on the West Bank and the Lamas overlords in Gaza. |
doubled very much that Abu Mazen would want to get involved. 1 did send an aide
to see him to ask whether, in principle, he was apen fo reassuming control of Gaza
following an Israeli talceover. His answer was unsurprising and unequivocal: no.
1 scenred cabinet support for the more limited wim of restoring u period of calm
Jor Tsraeli citizens in the south. T said the militacy operation had to be as sharp and
short as possible, and end with some kind of political understanding thar the
cockets would sop for a sigaificant period of time. The final plan was presented Lo
ainisiees a few days before the operation. Tt would begin with surprise aic suikes
and a naval bombardment, followed by a limited round incursion to hit remaining
Hina targets ouside of the major refugee camps, which 1 was detemmice lo
avoid. The whale operation was intended 1 last for two week at the most
Topefully. closer to a week, with diplomatic efforts through Ty pt to secure a
Lasting case-fite and, ideally, prevent Hamas from resipplying its rocket
suvchpiles through its smuggling tunnels from the Sinai
When we launched Operation Cast Lead on the morning of December 27,
nearly all the Hamas forces were where we'd expected them to be. Two wives of
sir strikes, with over a bundied ois und stack helicopters, killed 350 Hamas
lighters. We destroyed amass headquarers and dozens of its government end
police installations. The attacks continued in the days that followed. We took a
mange of actions designed wo minimize civilian casualties. We dropped leat
before bombing sorties, phoned resideats. and fired light missiles before heavier
ordnance was used. Still, 1 realized tha civilian casualties were unavoidable — if
nly because Himzs, like Hizbollh in Lebanon, was dehberately Gring its rockets
from civilian seas, sometimes even near schools ue hospitals. Civilian casualties
were obviously wagic in themselves. They also made it inevitable that the longer
the operation went on. the more likely we were fo fice international criticism. and
diplomatic pressure to bring it 1o an end. That was an additional reason | had
insisted that the operation be well defined and time-limited.
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But both Olmeet and Tzipi soon fell prey w the same self-defeating temptation
that had worried me during the meandering war against izbollah. Our ground
incursion began a few days info the operation, The intention was to stay for a few
nore days und then, responding lo mevitsbl informational appeals, call a hall w a
campaign that had alieady achicved ncarly all of its targets. Perhaps wanting to
‘balance the failures in Lebanon there with “success” in Gaza, Olmert wanted us to
continue, and expand our attacks deeper into Gaza. | reminded him that we'd
agreed the aims beforehand. The longer we stayed. the loss clear any gains would
be. Yes. our ground forces had so far faced virtually no resistance or casualties.
“But that's because we're outside the main populated areas,” 1 said, “The deeper
we gel iu, the better it will be for Hamas. They gain simply by surviving, like
Tlizbollah.” Yet Olmert kept insisting that we'd succeeded so far, so let's not stop.
It wasn't until January 17, three weeks after the operation hegan, that we
announced a cease-fire. Militasily, the operation was a success. While [amas
launched nearly 3.000 rockets inw Israel in the year before our attack, there were
only 300 in the vear that followed. But politically and diplomatically. the extra
week reduced, rather tin helped, the ehimees of reaching in understanding for a
longer-term reduction of the attacks. To the extent there was any political gain, it
was to burnish Tzipi Livni's credentials as a tough potential Prime Minister ahead
of the election. Thal was nol her meat. OF all the politeians I"ve known, she is
among the least interested in sueli games, especially with lives at stake. But it was
one of the effects.
She won the election. in a photo finish, with opinion polls suggesting she'd
been effective in shaping the campaign as i choice “between Lzipi and Bibi.”
Kadima got 28 Knessel seas. to 27 [or Bibi and the Likud, which gave her the list
crack at torming a povernment. There's no way of disguising the fact that Labor's
result in my first election bck m charue wis a disappomiment. We went down six
seats. to 13. The big gainer was a far-right, stridently anti-Arab party called Fisrael
Beitenn. led by a former Likudnik named Aviedor Lieberman. Tzipi's aftempt to
Torm a coalition beeime less a polineal process than a contest between rival stalls
in a Middle Lastern bazaac. Bibi was holding pacallel talks with the Orthodox
‘parties critical to assembling a parliamentary majority. Ile was matching and
raising every assurance af a ministerial seat or budjetary concession that T7ipi was
prepared tw offer. In the end, she threw up bee hands, saying she refused 10 draw
out a process which was not so much a negotiation as organized extortion. I am
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sure she won the respect of many Tseaclis for taking an all-to-tace stad of
principle. She certainly won mine. But Twas not alone in wondering whether it
was worth the price that she, Kadima, and the country would pay as a result: Ribi’s
Telus as Prime Minister mu Likud-ked coalition,
Though | was not surprised when he asked me to remain as Defense Minister,
and to keep Labor inside the coalition, that was not an easy argument to make to
my reduced Knesset contingent, They saw joining Bibi, especially in a government
wilh the right-wing Lieberman as Foreign Mivister, us @ betrayal of all the eons
that they and [ had made to achieve peace with the Palestinians. Still. the decision
«an whether to join the coalition ultimately rested with the party central committee,
ahnost every ane of whose members wis on # local goverment connil. For them,
the choice was between a share of power, however limited, and the wilderuess of
apposition, So we jomed Bibi's government,
1 was personally m Gavor of our doing so, bul for more comphested reasons, 1
knew that Bibi’s background, his instincts and his undeniably paver ful political
rhetoric were all tirmly rooted on the political right. | recognized that he was often
more interested m polities thin policy, and perfiups above both of those, in the
Lactical maneuvering required lo consolidate bis political position. Bul | had known
‘him long enough to dismiss the suggestions of many of my colleagues that he was
mielicernally shallow, 1 felt he wus capable of doing what was best for Iscael, and
that he had a basic pragmatism that would guide how he got there. All that.
however, was just a reason for not saying “no” when he asked me and Labor tv
stay on, The reason | felt it was right to say yes had to two with specific policy
challenges. The frst wes fo cusire there al leas! some peace process with the
Palestinians. Bul that, in tura, was in lacge part because I believed it would win us.
the diplomatic support, especially from the Americans, needed fo tackle a more
aren! threat 11 agsin involved un enemy stale trying to gel melon weipons. Bul
aol Sycia. The Tslamic theoccaey of Tran.
We'd been aware for a number of years about Iranian efforts to go nuclear. The
Mossi had notched up a series of successes in delaymy the Inmians from getting
there. But they were petting inexorably closer. In fact, when I'd taken over as
Defense Minister under Olmert, T formally directed the new chief-of-statf, Gaby
Ashknazn, to get to work on a plan to attack the most important facilities in the
Iranians’ nuclear nework, with the aim of pushing back the point at which they
might develop a bomb by five to six years. But it became clear we didn’t have the
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operational capacity to mount such an auack, in part because we lacked the
occessary bunker-busting bombs and the lanker aircraft 10 get us 10 Tran and back. T
did seelc help from the Americans. | met Defense Secretary Bab Gates, CIA
director Mike Hayden, National Scourity Adviser Steve Hadley and even President
Bush himsel. While not explicitly mentioning that we were planning military
action against Iran, I sounded them out on the prospects of getting more heavy
munitions. and possibly leasing several US tanker airerall.
Yeu in our final meeting with President Bush, during a visit 10 Ise] in June
2008, he made it clear to Olmert and me that he knew what we were up to. Olmert
hasted a privite dmner for the President, Aflerwards, Bush asked to talk privately.
Olmert poured us cach a ghass of whiskey aud lit a cigar, and we sank int brown
leather armchairs. Smiling, the president looked sicaight at me, and seid to Olmert:
“This guy scares the livmyg shit out of me when he tells me what you want.”
He fold Olmert how 1d asked for heavy munitions, Tankers and i varicly of
other military equipment. “Remember. I'm a former 1-16 pilot,” he said “1 know
how to connect the dots.” Then, turning more serious, he added: “I want to tell
both of you now. us President, the formal position of the US government. We sire
wially against any action by you lo mount an aiack on the nuclear plants.” The
effect was all the more dramatic because of his Administration’s support for our
attack on the reactor in Syma the year before, “1 repeat,” Bush suid, “in order to
avoid any misunderstanding. We expect you not to do it. And we're not going lo
do it, either, as long as T am President. T wanted it to be clear”
Olmert said nathing, so [ replied, “Mr President, we're in no position to tell you
what the position of the United States should be. But 1 ean tell you what [believe
history will have to say. I'm reminded by what we call, in field artillery,
“bracketing and halving.” | said that in the wake of the Al-Qaeda attack on the
“Twin Towers, he had fired one shell long. in Afghanistan, and another one shard, in
Iraq. “But when the lime came to hit the real target — Iran — it ended up you'd
already spent wo terms, and all your political capital.” He seemed neither insulted
mar unsettled by my remark, He simply nodded. Perhaps, in prt, because he was
prety sure that we lacked the ability to attack the Iranian facilities anyway.
We sill lacked that capacity when I became Defense Minister in Bibi's
government in Muy 2009, But fhe main reason I’d stayed in the job, and my mam
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focus from the day Bibi's government ok office, wag to do all T could wo change
that.
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Chapter Twenty-Five
Thad hoped that in facing down the nuclear threat from Tan. T could audge Bibi
towards a reengagement with the Palestmians not with great enthusiasm, but as
an act of pure political pragmatism. There were only wo ways we could stop the
Tranians (rom getting a nuclear weapon: for the Americans to make suce that
happened, or not to hinder Israel from daing so. Fither was woing to be « lat harder
af there was lension with the new Amerie president, Barack Obama, over moves
10 vive the peace process with the Palestinians.
T didn’t expect it to be put to the test so soon. Yet within weeks of our taking
affice, President Obama faunched un effort to restart negotiations, declaring it
“nnolerable” tha there was still not a Palestinian site. He was explicit about what
Israel needed to do. In an Oval Office meeting with Bibi in May 2009, and ina
speech in Cairo fhe next month, he called for a total halt fo settlement construction
on the West Bank. US opposition To setllements wasn’ new. For years,
Washington's position had been that they represented “an obstacle to peace.” The
mam issue wasn't even the creation of new seftlements, since there had heen
almost none in recent years. 11 was the expansion of existing ones. The Jewish
population on the West Bauk had been about 190,000 when T became Prime
Minister. In the decade since then, it had prow to 315.000 — more than half-a-
million af yon counted the Jewish neighbortoods bul inside the expanded, posi-
1967 boundaries of Jecusalem. The expansion — “natural growth’ as we
euphemistically described it to the Americans — was what President Obama now
wimted Bib lo end.
1 had no illusions about how bard it would be 1 get him to agree. With cach
passing year since Camp David. the pro-setlement right wing in Israel had become
mare confident and influential, In a way, the settlers and their supporters.
passionately devoted 10 a “Greater Israel” and opposed 10 any Pakestinian stale —
had become the 21*-century equivalent of the kibbutz avaal-garde ofa hal century
earlier. The rise of Avigdor Lieberman's Yisract Bettetnu party was the latest sign,
alongside n move vightward within the ©ikud iisell. For Bibi lo sty yos toa
settlement Freeze would mean putting aside his own short-term political interests in
recognition of the importance of our alliance with the Americans. Tle’d actually
done this, twice, during his First ten us Prime Minister. He had greed 10 give the
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Palestinians control of most of lebron, and accepted further withdrawals under the
Wye River agreement. But amid predictable protests from the right, he bad
promptly retreated from his Wye commitments, 1 knew that his default response to
Obama’ ell Gov w scitlement freeze would be “m0.” And it was, delivered fivst lo
the cabinet and then 10 the public, as soon as he got back from his talks with the
President.
In my repeated meetings with Bibi in the weeks that followed both onc-on-
one, and within the informal group of elose ministers and aides known ws the
Group of Fight I tried to persuade him that, if only because of America’s key role
an Iam, we needed to shaw some sim of engagement with Obimir’s efforts, | was
ot entively lone. One ally was an old fiend: Dan Meridor, who had rejoined the
Likud before the election. Another was more unexpected: Avigdor Lieberman. Tle
Was never goin to accept a settlement freeze, Not only did hus heart, and political
interests, lie on the West Baok. Tle lived there. But like many in the party he led,
be had come to Israel from the former Soviel Union. shaping & woddview that in
‘many ways remained European, and pro-Western. Le was worried about creating
the inmression of blanket Israchi intransigence towne popular new Ameen
Presideal, and isolating ourselves internationally, if we did't go some way
towards helping to restart talks with the Palestinians.
“Though Biba showed no signs of retreat on fhe seltlement freeze, be did accept
that broader point. Ten days aller Obama's Cairo speech, he publicly accepted the
idea of a Palestinian state for the first time, having ruled it out as recently es the
month before in his White House talks with the President, The shift was dismissed
as trivial not just by the Palestinians, but by may in my own Labor patty snd
almost everyone else on the lef. T disagreed. TRnew how deep. genuine and
longstanding Bibi's resistance to Palestinian statehood was. But I had another,
serious eoncern about the “peace plan” he armounced: wn entirely new precondition
bie insisted the Palestinians must meet if peace wag ever going be possible. Tle
said they must “clearly and unambiguously recognize Israel as the state of the
Jewish people.” On a whole series of levels, this made no sense 10 me. We udn’t
asked Lgypl ov Jordan w grant us explicit recognition as a Jewish state when we
‘made peace with them. Even when Bibi himself had briefly tied to apen
negotiations with Damascus in his first period as Prime Minister, we'd never felt
the need 10 ask it ul the Syrians cither. To the extent there was any logic in
demanding it of the Palestinians. Bibi’s reasoning seemed ta be that this would
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acutralize any secidivist claims to all of Palestine, especially since we had around
1.8 million Arab citizens living inside our pre-1967 borders. But as I told Bibi, that
was i red herring, There was 1 more straightforward, legally binding answer; 1
pence treaty which, as wih Egypt nel Jordan, declared in end fo our conflict wd
to any further claims on either side.
My main concern was more fundamental. Bibi’s new approach contradicted the
central thrust of Zionism: that afler centuries of powerlessness and persceution,
Jews would nally take control of thieit own destiny. We now had our state. [tL was
‘more than six decades old. “Why do we need the Palestinians, or anyone. to
validate us as a Jewish state? Why propose something that imphies the Palestinians
somehow live say in whit kind of state we choose 1 be?” Yel the more |
pressed him, the eleaser it beeame that fhe substance didn’t much matter to Bibi.
His move was political, and tactical, aimed af staking out a position of power in he
diplomatic process. Besides. he didn’L expect any new negotiations lo make eal
progress anyway.
As Defense Minister. Thad scope for taking steps with the Palestinians on my
awn, With Bibis knowledge ind tacit aceoptance. 1 established a purticulaly
strong relatiouship with Abu Mazen's Prime Minister, Salsa Fayyad. A respecied
‘economist, he operated on the assumption that neither violence nor negotiations
seemed likely to lead the Palcsamians to statehood ws things now stood. He saw his
roll is doing an end-sun. He would put in place the institutions. the infrastneture,
the economy, the internal security and the stability needed for 2n eventual state to
succeed. He was trying to do for the Palestmians what Ben-Gurion had done before
1948. Hee and {mel and talked olin but discreetly — sometimes in his office in
Ramallah, sometimes in mine, sometimes over dinner in the 31"-Noor flat T was
renting in central Tel Aviv. I remember one dinner in particular. I led him onto the
temic after we'd eaten. Iwas a siznlingly clear night. You vould sec us far noth
as Lebanon and, since the West Bask was bacely a dozen miles away, the
twinkling lights of Ramallah as well. Ile gazed in that direction, then at the bright
Tights of the svennes and restaurants and cals fir below us. Smiling, be ssid:
“Ehud, why do you ned Remallah when you've got Tel Aviv?” I sniiled back.
There was no seed to reply. Ile knew ny views. Not only didn't Israel need
Ramallh. [was more convinced fun ever that it was in aur own interest, by treaty
if possible and unilaiecal disengagement if nol. Lo remove Israel fron all of the
‘major towns and cities of the West Bank.
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Tissued a standing dircotive in the Kiva thal we should agres 10 anything
Tayyad asked for, es long, as there no seeurity reason 1o say no. We ended up
arranging a direct source of fuel supply to Jenin, on the northern edge of the West
Ban, ancl bull nieve teaminals fo biandle 1. We facilitated construction permis for
anew industrial zone. For a conference of international economists and business
people. we set up VIP treatment at Ben-Gurion Airport, and limousine transport to
the conference venue. | believed that if Vayyad succeeded in what he was trying 10
accomplish, it would be a benefit not just for the Palestinians, but for lsc] too.
Ril was agnostic on Fayyad's efforts. Yet he recognized they did no harm. And in
away, my support for them was politically convenient, To the extent the
international community, especially the Americans, appreciated our efforts 10 help
the Palestinians. Bibi and others in the goverment could, and did. claim credic.
When there were complaints from the right. Bibi could and did say: “It wasn't me.
11 was Baruk.”
My part in our relations with the Americans wes more politically delicate. As T
continued to prod Bibi toward accepting a settlement freeze during the summer and
aut of 2009, my de fucio rok became lo help smooth over the increasiyly
cough edges in our Lics with the Obama administration. 1 knew key figures from
earlier incarnations in their public lives and mine: Secretary of Defense Bob Gates,
who head been President George H. W. Bush's deputy security adviser fn the int
Iraq wav und then head of the CIA: aud Hillary Clinton, now Secretary of State.
During a series of early rips to the US as Defense Minister. I met Gates, ITillary
and other senior figures in the administration both formally and informally. In part
because they were aware | Favored agreeing w a setilement freeze, they clearly
found it a lot easier to talk to me than to Bibi. On one visit, to my regret and Bibi’s
evident frustration once I'd got home, the press highlighted this dramatic
difference in mood. Emerging from talks with me at the State Department, Hillary
told ceporters that our talks had gone “wonderfully.” She added: “As longtime
friends do, much was said. And much did't need to be said." Still, 1 was careful to
avoid any explicit criticism of Bibi m my meetings in the LS. 1 wauld point out the
domestic political pressuces on Lim in deciding how 10 proceed. Aad in any case,
the Americans knew that no matter what L might say to chem, ic was Bibi's actions
that ultimately mattered. He, nat I, was Prime Minister,
swans is surprised as they were when he Finally announced w selllement freeze
in November 2009. As with nearly everything else he did regarding the peace
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process, it was hedged with several conditions. The freeze would not be apea-
ended, but last for [0 months. as a way of boosting the effort Lo restart
negotiations. It would apply to new construction, nt work already underway, And
a would exelude the posi-1967 neighborhoods inside the expanded city limits of
Jerusalem. Like his other moves, it was also dismissed as insignificant by the
Palestinians. Though there was a formal restarting of the talks. they went almost
nowhere during the period of the freeze, which Bibi ciled as a reason for uot
extending it further. From then on, the negotiations produced even less. {dida’t
buy the narrative that this was entirely Bibi’s fault. Abu Mazen remained
steadfastly. deliberately passive, Obviously not inclined to tale the risk of further
widening his sill with Hames in Gaza, he was content to celio the Obama.
administration’s argument that nothing could happen until there was a setdement
freeze. Once the freeze was announced, he went through the motions, avoiding: all
the difficult issues, in he expectation Washingion would ensure the freeze was
renewed. President Obama's initial Mideast moves had made it much easier for
Abu Mazen to avoid any serious engagement. [n contrast to past presidents. Obama
had placed almost all of the onus for progress on Israel, But the end result also
suited Bibi. Though T never entirely gave up hope of persuading him it was in
Isuel’s interest to seek a resolution of our conflict with the Palestinians, it became
mare evident as the months went on that his aim was simply to keep things ticking
aver, and wvoid aay major ew erisis.
Ie appointed an old personal friend — a corporate lawyer named Yiczhak
Molcho as our negatiatar. [ finally realized how pointless the exercise was when,
during a visit to the United States, | found mysell in New York at the seme time as
Molcho. We met at the Israeli consulate. We spoke in detail about the state of the
negotiations. With Molcho still in the room, 1 phoned Bibi in Jerusalem on the
scenre phone line. 1 said 1'd just been updated on the talks, and if seemed lear
there were a number of suggestions Israel could make. with no domestic political
risk but with every prospect of improving the atmosphere and accelerating
progress. “Yitzhak is one of Istael’s top lwyers.” 1 said, “Hes struck dozens of
deals in his life. But he strikes a deal when that’s what his client wants. Fou are the
client. If you tell him: bring me back the best deal you can - not a peace treaty, just
a deal on a specific issue he'll da it. But if his brief is simply to negotiate, he can
120 on negotiating forever, And it's preity elo me thist’s his brict.” Bibi sisted |
was wrong. Ile said that what I saw as time-wasting was simple prudence. to make
sure the negotiations bore fruit. But his approach never changed. Whenever it came
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up int our innee Group of Tight diseussions. T could usually count only on Dan
Meridor, and occasionally a handful of others, to argue in favor of any (orm of
initiative on our side. In private meetings, Bibi did sometimes engage in discussion
about what Iszacl might do. But he invariably sieered the conversanon elsewhere,
insisting that the real issue was the Palestinians” lack of any interest in making
peace
My main worry wasn't the immediate future of the negotiations. For now, the
chances of an ugreement. seemed close 1 zero. [1 was the longer-term damage
Bibi's approach would do in further delaying any serious move by Israel to put our
relations with the Palestinians on a more stable and sustainable footing, The
dithering, delay and deadlock suited him politically. Ironically, my own clos on
the security (ront had also made if easier for us 10 do next tw nothing. Intermittent
outbreaks of violence always remained a threat, Yet the West Rank security fence,
aloag with our military, police and intelligence measures, meant it was very
unlikely we'd see a return 10 the full-blown tercor war of the second intifada. [was
also working to secure US support for our development of increasingly eftective
antiemissile weapons 1 reduce the threat from Him in Gia The overall result
wag that for many, if not most, Isvaclis, the confliel with the Palestinians didn’
impact on their day-to-day lives. It was unseen and largely unfelr.
Still, the effect of the stalemate on our relationstip with Washington did mutter:
both for our seeurity cooperation on things like the suti-missile weapons and,
crucially, the challenge which had led me into Bibi's government in the first place:
keeping Iran from getting a nuclear weapon,
«ss
It was a mace agains! lime. he Inmians were producing mors and more
velloweake, building more advanced centrifuges, accumulating more low-cnriched
uranium, They were petting better at hiding and protecting the netwark of facilities
being used 10 try to produce s nek weapon, And in the carly months of Bibi’s
Prime Ministorship, the question we faced wasn’ even whether to take miliary
action against Iran — something T knew. from Bob Gates and others. that the
Obami admmistration viewed no more favourably than George W. Bush. It was
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whether that would even be possible 10 strike before the Iranians entered their
“zone of immunity” ~ the point at which the amount of damage we could do w
their nulear program sould be too negligible to be warth the operational, political
snd diplomugtic risks from such an altack. In the carly months, my prionly wis lo
cosure we al least had a militery option. A full year before joining Bibi's
‘government, as Defense Minister under Olmert, I'd first tried to put an operational
plan in place, only 10 find that the lack of heavy munitions and refuelling airerall
made it impossible. [at was especially frustrating because at that poi, our
experts calculated that a successful strike could have set back the Iranian nuclear
effort by about six years, Given the Iranians’ knowledge we could attack again,
and their need fo restart clandestine efforts 1 secure key components abroad, that
meant a very real prospect of ending the nuclear program altogether. On joining
Bibi's povernment, | began working, both with the £tvu and the engineers and
techuolugical experts in our military industries, 10 make swe we had the weaponry
and equipment, aod an operational plan for a surgical strike. Tt was not until mid-
2010, a year into Bibi's government, that [ was contident we'd reached that point,
part thanks to Istaeh-produced heavy bombs and tanker wircraft, Our experts
estimated we would still be able to set back the Iranian nucleac efforts by up tv
four years, almost certainly encugh to end chem indefinitely.
Yet making military action possible proved to be the easy part. The question
now became whether we should be prepared tw launch 2 strike against Iran's
nuclear facilities. Answering it was like a contest of three-dimensional chess,
involving both an internal debate among: Iseael’s political and military leadership
and discussions with an Obama administration whose priority remained to
negotiate an end to Tran’s nuclear program. On major security decisions in Iscael.
tw ministers always mattered the most: the Prime Minister and Defense Minister.
Neither Bibi nor | doubted we had to ready to strike if thi proved necessary, Nor
did Foreign Minister Liberman. Tiven for us. it was an option to be considered
only when all other ways to rein in the Iranians were failing. We also apreed on
twa ofher preconditions. We would have to secure international legitmacy, most of
all from the Americans, for what would be a clear act of self-defense. And we'd
need to demonstrate an imperative urpency to act. with the approach of the “zone
of immunity” that would tke any military option off the fable for ood,
Ideally, we hoped the US-led empisign of economic and diplomatic pressire
would get Iran to abandon its nuclear ambitions, as Libya had done in the wake of
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is teror attack on a Pan American airliner in the late 1980s. Or. as in South
Alice, that a change in nuclear policy might come [vom a change in régime in
Tehran, Yet realistically, we couldn’t count on either. And there was na doubt in
aur minds thal i nul Ten reproseuted a hugely serious threat. 1 the Shi‘ile
Muslim cegime in Iran did get a nuclear weapon, Sunni Arab states like Egypt and
Saudi Arabia. and Turkey as well. would try ta go nuclear. Neither they nor we
could assume that Iran was developing a bomb as & mere act of deterence. We
couldn't exclude the possibility that, especially in a crisis threatening the survival
af the avarollahs’ rule, Tran would use the weapons it was developing. It could
even send a nuclear device in a container smuggled on board a commercial vessel
docking in onc of Israel's ports.
While few in Tsrael disputed the seriousness of the theeat, a numbee of Lop
political und military figures had deep misgivings about military wction. Given the
aeed for secrecy, most of our discussions look place within the so-called Group of
Tight, olen also including the chief of stall and other top geaseals from the Airya.
Both Dan Meridor and Benny Begin, Menachem Begin’s son and a minister
without portfolio, were opposed 1 zn Isak attack fom the start. They were
convinoed that the implications for the region, and for our relations with the wider
world. were difficult to predict and potentially dire. Dan raised a further concern.
He feared an Jsrach altick might actnally intensify Iran's effort lo get a nuclear
bomb, only now with political cover, because it would argue it was acting in self-
defense. The view of those opposed to an Israeli strike was that we should rely on
American economic and political pressure to deal with the threat, And, if that
Riled, on American military action.
Ta November 2010, the intecnal debate came to a head, al a meeting involving
the Group of Eight as well as the chief of scaft. the head of military intelligence
amd the communder of the wir force. We convened in a villi that the Mossad kept
for clandestine foreign visitors, near the coastal road north of Tel Aviv. The
meeting began with a presentation by the generals of our attack plan. There was
still core of ministers opposed: chiefly Din Meridor und Benny Begin, bul also
Boogie Ya'alon, a former Sayeret Matkal eommander and chief of stall who
Minister of Strategic Affairs. But the confidence and detail with which the plan
was laid out, and the fact that Bibi, | ieberman and | were in favor of being
prepared to act, pave me the sense that a majority would back militasy ection if it
became necessary. The proviso would be the need for the chief-of-statt. and ideally
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the heads of military intelligence and Mossad, Lo sign off on the operational
viability of the plan
That was what now ended any prospect of military action, at least tor a few
months, Bibi, Licberman and 1 withdrew into a side room to talk with the chief of
all, Gaby Ashkenai, ag well as the heads of military intelligence. the Mossad
and and Shin Bet. We emphasized that no final decision on whether to attack had
been taken. That would require a further meeting with the Group of Fight, and then
the full cabinet. But we wsked cach of them lov their views on the operation. We
Inew they had political reservations, along the lines of those voiced by Dan
Meridor, On an 1ssue of this magnitude, it was accepted practice that military and
intelligence commanders coukd weigh in on the political implications as well. But
their formal role was operational and professional. Ashkenazi and the other
generals did concede that in every area. planning, materiel, training and
intelligence — vue attack plan was far ahead of where it had been a year cadier. Yet
Ashkenazi, in particular, concluded tha the prepacations had not yet “erossed the
threshold of operational capability”.
1 was furious. 1 respected the considered opposition of ministers ke Dan or
eny Begin. had no problem with the ehieF-ol-stalT or other generals expressing
similar views on the political ar geo-strategic implications of an Israeli attack, even
thonizh our intelligence wssessments suggested the cangems were almost certainly
unfounded. Yet whal | found astonishing was Ashkenazi’ suggestion Lat the
“operational threshold” had not been crossed. Yes, this would be a demanding
mission, [t was not without risks, Na operation was. But having followed every
stage and detail of the preparations — and as « former ciel of stall and intelligence
chief myself T believed it was simply wrong on a professional level 10 say that
we lacked the capacity, and a workable plan, tor a military strike if the order was
ven
Ashhenezi’s objection did mean there was no way we wore 20ing 1 attack at
Teast until well into the new year. Our discussions would continue, as would our
refinement unl strengthening of the attiuck plan. So would Iran's progress toward
ils “zone of immunity,” which wee now believed would begin late in 2012, a couple
of years away. As that point drew closer, we'd face an ever-more-pressing need to
decide finally whether military action wis necessary.
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Yel the delay in getting 10 that point had serious implications for my role as
Labor Party leader. Since the negotiations with the Palestinians were stuck in
neutral, | was under increasing pressure fram within Labor to pull out of Ribi's
government. What on eth was the point of siaying, they asked. All | was doing,
Trom their perspective, was giving Bibi political cover for abandoning any serious
effort to ger a peace agreement. Their argument was entirely reasonable. My
frustration was that, due to the need for militacy scereey. {he counter-argment was
impossible for me to make: that 1 felt [ had a responsibility to stay at a time when
there remained a real possibility Israel might need to take military action against
Iran. Ta a mix of constemation and anger among many Labor colleagues, 1 ended
up taking what seemed we the only realistic option. In January 20111 lef the
Labor Party. With three other of our ministers in the government — who were. of
course, aware of the ongoing Iran discussions I set up a new “centrist, Zionist”
panty called Ha Atzmagt, or Independence. We remained in Bibi’s goverument.
«ee
My main focus was now on the Amecieans. In order 10 seeuce the “‘futeenational
legitimacy” any sraeli attack required. we had to win at least their nndersianding
that we might feel 1 necessary to wel. Foriumtely, © had built up a good
relationship with the key figures in the Obama administration. That had vot always
Deen easy, given the tension between the Americans and Bibi. That wasn't just
Decause of the deadlock in the peace process, still a priority for President Obama.
“Tere were other complications. ver since the initial pressure for a seitlement
freeze, right-wing politicians and commentators. and Bibi himself, had taken to
portraying President Obama as fundamentally unsympathetic to Israel. After the
Republicans” victory in the mid-term Congressional chections m November 2010,
Bibi went a step further. Tle began cozying up Wo congressmen and senators on the
other side of the aisle. This overt meddling in the internal politics of our closest
ally was not Just a breach of longstanding tradition, but of common sense.
Members of the Administation began privately calling Bibi “the Republican
senator from Rechavia™ - a reference to the Jernsalem neighborhood where the
Prime Minister's residence was located,
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Yel especially with ny main points of contact in the administeation — first Bob
Gates and then his successor, Leon Panetta, as Secretary of Defense our broadly
shured views, mutual respect, and the strength of the US-Israeli ulliance
awwerghed any of thal. Nather tiey, nor indeed President Obama, wavered from
their commitment to the principk that Iscael needed to retain our “qualitative
‘military advantage” over any combination of threats we might face, nor to the $3
billion package of annual US aid that underpinned it. We were even able to agree
on additional US backing for ouc increasingly effective range of anti-missile
systems: the Arrow. against long-range ballistic missiles, developed in
coordination with the LIS defense contractor Raytheon; “David’s Sling,” to target
enemy forces” mid-range missiles, cruise missiles and airera(l; and our new Jron
Dome system. integrating sophisticated Tscaeli radar and guidance technology and
designed to deal with the missile threat from Hizbollah on our northern border and
Hamas iu Gav. [had not vel been used in battle. But from test firings, we were
confident it could destroy incoming rockets with nearly 90-per-cent success
By late 2011, cae issue of Iran had taken on much greater urgency. There was
will no sign the Americin-led diplomatic elTorts were succeeding in removing the
ouelear throat. As foc an American military strike, though the President
intermitently declared that “all options” remained on the table. I knew from senior
administration members that it was exiremely mlikely to bippen. Iran, meanwhile,
had been acquiring thousands more centrifuges, more ueanium, and heavier
protection around its key sites. And the “window of vulnerability” was now only
about a year away.
Operationally and politically, al east now # majority of the key players in Israel
agreed that we had 10 be prepared 1 take military action if there was no alternative
way to rein in the Iranians. Ashkenazi's successor as chief-of-staff, Benny Gantz,
usd signed of on the attack plan. While the mins were getting ever closer 10
auelear-weapons capability, the strike force thal we were assembling was also
‘berrer equipped. trained and prepared to mount a complex. yet almost certainly
successful, operation. The damage To Ina’ nuclear ambitions would be
considerably less than if we had aeted caclicr. But our jtelligence analysts still
estimated we could set back the Iranians” program by about two years.
The immediate problem turned out to be timing. A major joint military exercise
wilh the Americans, greed ou wo yews earlier, was due w fake place in 1srecl in
April 2012. Tt would include Patriot missile batteries, naval vessels, and thousands
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of wiiformed US personnel. The focus was, of all things, on defense against &
missile auack fiom Tran. T contacted Leon Panetta to see whether we could delay i
The official reason cited by the Americans, when they agreed to do it, did have the
merit of big Ine: that Bibi was coming imder pressire to stil our budgetary
priorities away from defense lowaud social and economic issues. Bul Panctta
understood that my request for a delay meant we were ac least considering miliary
action. Le also realized that if we did launch en quack, it was in the Americans’
wa interest for theie troops he as far away (om Lsracl ag possible. We agreed to
reschedule the exercise for October 2017, That meant that if we did decide fo
attack, we'd have until well ino September, shen significant numbers of US
troops would begin wiving.
As we weighed our final decision. T held a series of high-level meetings in
Washington: with Panetta, national security adviser Tom Danilon, Hillary Clintan,
and President Obama bimsell. Though aut explicitly saying we were ready
attack, Tle no doubt that we were seciously considering it. and explained the
reasons we believed our country’s fundamental security interests might make ic
necessary. The message (rom all of the Americans [met ws hal the
administration shared our basic goal: wo prevent, or al least seriously impair. lran’s
drive to get a nuclear boub. But they contited to believe that non-military
pressure was the best way lo dol.
Vie Americans knew we were skeptical thai the non-military soue would work,
and that we were deeply worried about the implications of not taking military
action if it failed. | discussed our thinkmg and, in general tems, our plans mn
my mcetings with Panetta. He already had preity good idea of the broad contours
of what we were contemplating. since US radar systems and electronic intercepts
had been recording the volume and nature of ai force exercises we'd been
camdueting over recent months. Leon and 1 had by now vol to know sich other
well, baviog fist met when he was in charge of the CIA at the stadt of the Obama
administration. In one of our early meetings at CLA headquarters in Langley, there
iad heen a small bunch of grapes on his desk and | plucked a few in my mouth
with obvious enjoyment. Now, at the Pentagon, he had a big bowlful ready
whenever we met. The fact that he opposed an Israeli miliary operation made him
no less of a pleasure to deal with, He was unfailingly calm and even tempered. He
had an cneyelopedic grasp of issues of defense, intelligence, budgets and policy.
Tle was always rock-solid in America’s commitments to Israel. It's worth.
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cemembering that. in spite of Tsracl’s insistence rom 1948 ouward that we would
never ask others tv do our fighting for us, even as Leon and [ were meeting, US
radar operatons were working around the clock fo provide us with early waming
against ny incoming Iranian missiles. Patniol bufieries were ready lo deploy in
Tstael within 72 hows of any attack. ALGIS naval vessels were withis 96 houss of
our shores, to reinforce Istael's Arrow missile defense syscem with sea-launched
weapons
Panetta nade no score of the Get he didn’t want us to launch a military strike,
effectively killing off the many months of intensive work the Americans had
devoted to butldme international political and economic pressure an the Irunins,
He urged me fo “think twice, three times,” before going down that road. Bul he
recognized that Israel would be alfeeted far more deamatically by a nuclear lean.
“It's your conflict. It's your neighborhood,” he said. At one paint, he asked me
autright: “IC you do decide to attack the Iranian facilities. when will we koow?” T
told hin we coulda’ give him move than a few hours” notice. Otherwise, the
Americans would have to alert cheir bases in tae Gulf, and worldwide. That might
well pul Irn on guard before our operation was lamnehed. But 1 did recogmize our
cesponsibility not o leave the Americans in the dark. not only because they were a
Key ally buc because their own military and naval personnel might be at risk from
amy Lamia retaliation. “We know your commandos deployment and the
communications protocols with your forces.” {told him. “We'll make sure you
have enough time to tell your people.” I said. “We won't endanger a single
American life, any of your positions or your personnel.”
My most important uecting was with the President. | hongh | knew him less
well than T did Panetta, we had met on & number of aceasions. The isst time was
when he was still Senator Obama, on a visit to Israel during the 2008 presidential
campaign. As Defense Minister, | escorted him lo Sderot, the town in southern
Tscael bearing the brunt of Tamas cocket aliacks fiom Gaza. Back in Jerusalem, we
spent a half-hour talking in my office: about Iran. [ argued that a unclear Iran was a
ellenge not only for Enact and the Middle East, but for Ammeriea, 100. 1 urged
him, if elected. to commission ao cacy study of what the Iranians were seeking to
do and what could be done to stop them either by diplomatic means or, if
necessary, by force. Also, what the [ranians could, or mare relevantly could sos, do
in cesponse 10 an American or indeed an Israel attack, since our intelligence
assessments suggested their options for recaliation would be fairly limited. Obama
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suck me from tha first meeting as strong. cool-headed, highly intelligent and
intensely cerebral. Though we didn’t go into the details of the Iranian auclear
threat, he did tall at some length about the implications for the region. and about
broader Middle kastem sceurily challenges. He displayed a grasp of the cultural
aad political nuances of an increasingly diverse and comple world that was more
impressive than many of the other American political or military leadess whom I'd
met
Whe he and | now retuned to the issue of tran, iu the White House, he had an
undeniable command of the details of Iran's miclear program, and of the American
military options, should he choose to use them, He opened by summarizmy the US
position. He cnphissized thet his and our objective was the same: the keep Inn
from developing a nuclear weapon. We were already coapecating to achieve that,
for instance through cyber-attacks to slow down the nuclei program, The
difference, he said, was that Isreeli leaders seemed to feel an urge need to reach a
decision on military ction. Ta Obama's view, such a move would be both
premature and potentially harmtul to the coalition he'd helped assemble to exert
diplomatic und ceonomic pressure on fran.
Maybe you had 10 be an Iszacli truly to understand our urgency about Iran. I
the early years of the state, the explanation we gave for our preoccupation with
seenrity our near-obsession, as some nun-[sriclis saw it was that we were
surrounded by Arab countries pledged not just to defal us, but erase us from the
map. Tigypt or Syria, Jordan or Iraq, could afford to lose an Arab-Tsraeli war.
Israel"s first defeat, however, would be its last, That picture had changed
dramatically over the decades. We no louger hud to worry son! the prospect of
losing a war. The “qualitative edge” we possessed over all enemy amis in the
repion ensured that. As Israel's chief of staff, Prime Minister, and now Defense
Minister, | had made it i major priority lo safegiard that advantage, of just
through our alliance with the US but with the remarkable domestic resources we
possessed in military engineering, manufacturing. design, invention and high-tech.
But the new-owder challenge represented by Tram wis not just theoretical or
academic. Though we had a policy of not commenting on on our own nuclear
status. it was widely assumed in the Arab world and internationally that Israel had.
atthe very least, the capacity to manufacture nuclear weapons, But whatever
auelear capability we might possess was for deterrence. Liven when threatened
with conventional defeat, however briefly. in the Yom Kippur War of 1973, itis
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worth noting that the conflict remained conventional. fran was different. Only the
most naive observer would exclude the possibility that if the Iranians did pet 2
nuclear weapon, they might use it, And even if they didn’t, the entire strategic
metre would change, wiih The need fo find a response nat just 10 @ nuclear hun,
but potentially a nuclear Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Turkey.
1 was not about to lecture President Obama on this. While Bibi liked to portray
Im vamously as weak, naive or fone-deaf to interests and sceurity of Israel, | knew:
from our previous icelings thal hie was none of these things. Yel | did, in a
deliberately non-didactic way, raise the issue of our different perspectives on the
Irymians getting nuclear arms, “You see it m the context of the whole world,” 1
told the President. “If Iran, in spite of all our efforts, gets nuckear weapon, yes. il
will be bad. But for you, it’s just one more nuclear state. Tt won't dramatically
chunge the situation far America. For us, it can turn into u real, existential threat,”
He srced tht we inevitably looked at the situstion differently. But afer
pausing a few scevnds, he said: “Lihud, think of it this way. You get 10 school in
the moming and there's this big, nasty bully. You can take him on. maybe give
Tm black eye. But you have this bigeer, stronger friend, who ean knock him out
cold. The valy problem is that your friend won't be there until the altermoon.”
would have liked nothing more than to wait for our “bigger, stronger” friend,
especially since | knew through my contacts in the American military and
intelligence establishment how mich bigger and stronger an American intack
would be. During the first couple of years that Israel was working on acquiring the
capubility for a military strike, the Americans had been no mare ready than we
were. They did have the tmker siren and the heavy bombs. Bul their plan —
kind of [raq-style shock and awe — was so obviously prone to lead to a wider
conflict that it would never have received the go-ahead trom President Obama, or
robubly ny president. | used fo joke with collegues in the Pentagon that while
Iscacl's idea of a “surgical operation” was he cquivakt of a sealpel, they seemed
to favor a chisel and a ten-pound hammer, By the time | met the President in 2012,
that had ehumged. Under Gates and then Panctia, an intensive rescarchemd-
development effort and enormously improved planning and taining had yielded
results. The Americans now liad high-precision heavy nitions we couldn't
dream of, and stealth ar-attack capabilities we lso lacked, They bid an
operational plan which, within a period of hours, could push the Iranian nuclear
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program back by years. Aod even if the Tranians knew it was coming, they'd be
able to do nothing to stop iL
“Our problem, Mr, President,” I said, “is that we can’t be sure our friend will
show up. Since fran is already very carly m a zone of immunity against an Isracli
attack, we can’t afford to wail until the aflernoon. By then, with our capabilities,
we won't even be able to give the bully a black eye.” [ said [ trusted what he'd just
told me, “1m sure it genuinely reflects your intentions now. But there are no
futures contracts in staiesmanship. There's no way thal you, or any leader, can
commit yourself to what will happen in a year or two. When the moment of
decision arrives, nothmg will be able to fee you from the respansibility to look af
the situation us it is then, with American micrests m mind.”
Ile aceepied the point. But he reiterated bis view that “kinctic action” — US
security-speak tora military strike would not only remave his ability to exhaust
the non-miilary alemanives. He sad it wonldn’t be in Israel's interests, either,
“We hear that even people high up in your military, in military intelligence and the
Mossad, are against it.”
“That, [couldn't deny, “We highly respect our top people m the military, and in
intelligence. We make a point of listening to them before Laking action,” T said.
“But here's the difference. When they look up, they see Netanvahu, or me. When
Ribi and 1 look np. we see heaven, Whoever is up there, we clearly can’t gro to
them or advice. te ue responsible for Ismel’s seeurily.”
‘The president smiled, buc brought the discussion back down to earth. When he
again urged us ta consider the American position in any decision, 1 replied: “Mr
President, | feel compelled to tell you Graukly how | sce the situation. We highly
appreciate. and are grateful, that America supports Tsrael in so many ways. T
believe we're doing our best to support American interests in the Middle East as
well, But when it comes to issues critical for fhe security and future of Israel, and
ina way for the future of the Jewish people, we can’t afford to delegate
responsibility even to our best friend and ally. When we face such situations, we
have to decide on our own, and act on our decisions. | would expect the United
States, and you as its president, to respect that position.” Tle did not seem
especially happy with what I'd said. But he showed no anger. Though we differed,
it ws clear that he understood and respected our position. In any case, [ believed it
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was important Lo convey to him honestly, face-to-face, where Iseacl stood on Tran.
Orat least where [stood
pose
With our joint exercises pushed back until the fall, the logical time for us to
attack was the summer of 2002, when the atmospheric and weather conditions
were optimal. Operationally, everything was ready. Politically, those ministers who
were against military action had not changed their minds. If anything. they seemed
mare strongly opposed. Tronically, they now argued that becuse we'd waired so
Tong, the Iranians were loa close Lo their “window of immunity.” Even some senior
membecs of the militacy and security establishment, though in agreement over the
technical aspects of the attack plan, retained political reservations. But as I'd tld
President Obama, now that we had the operational support of the military and
intelligence professionals, the decision in elect rested with Bibi and me. The fact
we were ready to go ahead in those circumstances was ot unprecedented. When
Menachem Begm ordered he bombing of Saddam Hussein’s neler reactor m
1981. he had acted against the advice of the thea-heads of both the Mossad and
military intelligence, the chairman of our nuclear energy commission. and of
Shimon Peres, wha was head of the Labor opposition.
Bubs we neared our final, formal decision, we were forced into another delay.
Tn the summer of 2012. an uarelated flare-up of tensions in the Gulf caused Tran
and several of its neighbors to place their forees on heightened alert, Though the
peakealnt plese passed quickly, (rans military was still not hack on fully normal
Tooting by the start of September, and when small American advance teams began
arriving for the joint exercises. Iran's alert level went up again. Technically, we
could shill hive gone ahead wath the atack. In all probability, it wonld still have
succeeded, selling back the Iranians” program by at least a year and, depending on
how quickly they could rebuild and resupply clandestinely abroad. perhaps for
significantly longer.
But as more and nore American soldices and sailors arrived, | finally decided
against an Israel strike — not because I doubted the damage it would do to Iran's
nuclear efforts, but because of the dumige it would surely do to our fies with the
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US. No mater how we might explain our atack, with the joint excreises soon
begin, it would come over as a deliberate attempt to implicate vue must important
ally in a potential conflict with lean, against the explicit wishes of President
Obama. 1 Gel his even more strongly when, s few weeks er, was contucted by
ane of Bibi’s close political allies. Te sounded me out on the possibility of
Iaunching cur strike against Iran efter the joint exercise: barely two weeks before
the 2012 US election. Politically, he argued, Obama would then feel compelled to
support [sala action, or at the very least to refeain from erilicizing it. In other
words, we would be setting a political trap for the President of the United States. I
couldn't quite believe he was suggesting it. But my reply ta this last-gasp
suggestion of & way for us lo attack the Iranian sited required no hesitation, and
only two words: “No way.”
Bibi would have known [would oppose such a ploy. But as with so much else
in the years T spent in his government, T thik it was he polisics of the scheme,
ore than the substance, thal enticed him. Almost everything be did seemed
increasingly about creating a kind of grand narrative to secure his position on the
right, solidifying i bse which he Fignred would sustiin him in office. Als core,
the narsative presented a picture of vulneuability and victimhood: a kind of
“fortress Istael” threatened by terror, missiles on its northern and southern borders,
and now patcatial nuclear annihilation fom lan, white our main ally, the Unled
States, was under the sway of a President who neither understood noe
fandamentally supported us. In day-to-day policy terms. this allowed Bibi to insist
we couldn't Fish serious enyeagement with the Palestinians. On domestic issues as
well, like the widening gap between those al the top oF vur high-tech economy and
a painfully squeezed middle class, the sense of crisis hie encouraged gave him
license to hunker down, warn of impending: doom, and da virtually nothing.
Effective though the narrative was for him politically. it bare no resemblance to
ceality. Yes. President Obama disagreed with us on issues of policy. both the peace
process and on how to deal with Iran. But he was unquestionably committed to
America’s alliance with Israel. | had deh Gaee-to-Face with four US presidents:
both of the Bushes, President Clinwa and sow Presideat Obama. In teens of Iscacli
security. none had proved as consistently supportive and helpful as Obama. And
yes, Israel did fice un array of security challenges. A nuclear-armed fran would
undeniably make things worse. Bul far from being under existential threal, we
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were a regional superpower, with a military as effective as any in the world, and a
high-tech economic seelue justifiably compared wo Silicon Valley
Every few weeks, Bibi, Lieberman and I would meet for a wide-ranging
discussion on the patio of the Prime Minister's wsidence. Shortly afler we'd
abandoned the idea of a military strike, | raised head-on my objections 10 the
skewed image Bibi was promoting of our country. It wasn't just inaccurate, 1 said
Fspeeinlly when his rhetoric was in full flight, und he compared the prospect of a
nuclear fran 10 8 new “Holocaust,” if struck me as a betrayal of the core Level of
Zionism: an stare in which Jews were in control of their own destiny. “We @e in
that position naw,” [sand It was nonsensical to argue we were so threatened by
everything wound us, for instance, thal we couldn't “isk” taking the mitiative
cequired to disentangle ourselves from the Palestinians on the West Bank. “T don’t
get you,” | said, fuming to Lieberman as well, “Your rheioric suiests you have
spines of steel. But you behavior is living proof of the old saying that it’s easier to
Lake Jews out of the gals, than take the galut out of the Jews.” Galt is Uebrew for
the diaspora. “The whole Zionist project was based on the idea of taking our fate
lo or awn hands, ane nctively irying 0 change the reahity around us. But yon
beliave a8 if we never left the gall. You're mired in a mindset of pessimism,
passivity and anxiety, which in terms of policy or action, leads to paralysis. Of
course, there are risks in amy action, or any policy mbative, But in the sitaation
where Israel finds sel, the biggest risk of all is being unable or unwilling 10 take
risks. as if we somehow on the brink of destruction.”
L was especially upset by Bibi's increasingly use of Holocaust imagery. “Just
think of what you're saying,” 1 old him. “You're Prime Minister of the State of
Tscael, nol a rabbi in a shied, or a speaker Urying to aise funds for Tseael abroad.
Think of the implications. We're not in Furope in 1937. Or 1947. If itis a
“Holocanst,” what's onr response: to fold np ind yo back 10 the disspora? (7 Iran
23a bomb, it'll be bad. Very bad Bu we'll still be bere. And we'll find a way of
dealing with the new realiry.”
Yet “fortress Israel” wars iresistibly comfortable for Babi pohucally. 1 now had
10 accept that, while he and [had known cach other for move than hal-a-century,
nothing T could do or say was going to change that. With the next Israeli election
months away, in January 2003, [confided to Kili, and then to my closest aides, that
1 was not going trun for a seat in the Knessel. Israeli military action agaist Iran
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was off the ageoda. The diplomatic process with the Palestinians was stalemated. T
could see no point in cemaining in the goverament.
Like my last period in Olmert's government, my final few months were
dominated by finding 1 way lo end Hamas attacks from Giza, During one 24-hour
period in November, Lamas launched more than 100 rockets at towns in the south,
while also attacking two military units across the border. Especially since our
military response would be the fast during my time as Defense Minister, | was
determined that, this ume, it would have a siricily defined objective and a finite
time trame. The overall objective hadn't changed since Olmert's premiership: to
hut Hanna hard, bring down the number of rocket attacks ta as near zero as
possible, and reach wn agreement, through the Jayplians, which established a
period of calm on our border for as long as we could. Bibi's “vietimhood™
narrative notwithstanding, one aspect of the military balance in the south was now
dramatically different. With my backing as Defense Minister, we now had [ron
Dome, which T was confident would help deal with the inevitable shower of [Tamas
rockets that would follow our initial attack. Again, I felt ir was essential to scare
with w quick, unexpected damaging fins strike. Ther, tongh snstuined sir
bombardment, 10 keep up enough pressuce to scour the political arrangement we
wanted. And. unlike under Olmert, to end the operation as soon as we'd achieved
hs aim.
On the aflernoon of November 14, we lannched a targeted air strike on Hamas's
de facto chiel of siafl. Ahmed Jabari. We'd gone afler Jabari in the past but, for
ang reason or anather, had failed. We alsa hit nearly two dozen other Hamas
targets, melding all of the main missike sites we had identified. The whole
operation lasted a week. TTamas fired nearly 1,500 rockets into Tsreel, not just
locally manufactured Qassems but longer-range Iranian Fajr-5s and Russian Grads
For the first time since the 1991 Gull war, several were tneted at Tel Aviv and
Jerusalem. Fortunately, they were not signifieantly more accurate thao in the past.
More than half landed in fields or orchards. And with Iron Dome deployed around
aur major owas smd cities, moe han 80 per cent were infereepled.
We hit nearly 1,500 targets over the seven-day period, mostly launch-pads,
Tlamas government installations and weapons stores. but also a number of
apartment complexes bem used by Hams ws bases or firing pomts, Bibi rightly
pointed out that we were forced to fight & fandameutally symmetric battle. While
Tscael began with the principle of directing ou fire @way from civilian areas,
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Tlamas based its launchers in precisely those places. So it was not casy. AL one
point, we announced a call-up of reserves. We hinted at a possible ground
incursion, But both Bibi and [ knew we were gong to avoid that if at all possible,
and we did. Though there wae inevitable civilio casualties, most of the
Palestinians hilled were [lamas fighters and leaders, including not just Jabari but
the head of [Tamas’s racket program. By limiting ourselves to air strikes and naval
fire, the Palestinian death toll was around (50, about one-tenth of what it had been
in 2008. Six Lyraclis, including four civilians, lost their lives. On the 217 of
November, the cease-fire was announced.
Yet with the election approaching, and my time in public life drawing to a
close, 1 had na illusion th this laiest military operation, or futwe ones, would
bring us eloser to the negotiating peace with the Palestinians that had eluded us
since Oslo, Nor was | confident that, havi been unible ta mount a military strike
oF our ow on Iran, Obama’s “bigger, stronger kid” in the schoolyard would take
military action. T did trust him to do all he could 10 use diplomacy Lo constrain
Iran's efforts to get a bomb. I feared he might tail ven if he succeeded. I figured
the best case would be un sgreeraent thal, st least on paper, deliyed the Inmins™
development of a weapon. My hope remained that Iscael's relationship with the
Americans would be sufficiently strong for us to reach a formal understanding of
whist form of surgical mihtary strike cach of aur countries might tke 1F Ino didn’t
honor the terms of a negotiated deal.
When I ficst left political life after my election defeat in 2001, I'd described my
status ws the equivalent of a reserve officer, 1 said, and believed, it was unlikely I'd
elu for the foresecable future. But [knew it wasn’t impossible. his lime was
diffesent. When T announced publicly that 1 was leaving politics, five days aller the
Gaza cease-fire. I painted that I had spenc the sreater part of my lite as a soldier
1d never bid i bring desire 10 be a politiciun. Though [believed tha what I'd
attempted, and achieved, in government would prove to have safeguarded and
suwrengthened Israel, 1 knew that important challenges and decisions still lay ahead.
So did our unfulfilled decion of being a country thal was not jist strong, sceure and
prosperous, but socially just and at peace. Yel I believed it was right to draw my
time on the front line of politics to an end. Though I didn’t say so. I thought to
‘myself: this time doesn’t feel like u step back into the reserves, but genuinely like
the end of something. Though my dedication to a sceure, sttong. just, democratic
and ultimately peaceful Israel would not change, whatever contribution T might
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ake 10 our getting there would no longer be on the baulefield, in the kira or
around the cabinet table
Asa number of reporters pointed out. when [ made the announcement 1 was
relased, 1 looked content, und | was smiling.
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Filing # 22956396 E-Filed 01/26/2015 12:26:55 PM
CIVIL DIVISION
JEAN-LUC BRUNEL, individually,
and MC2 MODEL &
Civil Action No.2 1421348 CAL
Plainills,
JETEREY EPSTEM,
MCDONALD DR/AT Y1.0RG
Defendanis.
DAMAGES
COME NOW the Plaintiffs. Jean-Luc Brunel ond MC2 Model & Telent Miami. 14.C, by
and chraugh undersigned counsel, and suis Defendancs Jeffrey Epstein, Tyler Mefonald. and
Tyler McDonald d'bla/ ¥3.0rg for legal cell, equitable relief and defamation, and states as
follows:
1. Venue is propec in Dade County. Florida as Defendauss Tyler McDonald aid Tyler
MeDoneld dbs Yi.Org da business in Dude County, Plintiff Jean-Luc Brunel resides in Dade
County. Florida, and PlaintilT MC2 Model & Tales Miami, LLC. las an office in Dade County.
The causes of action and dimazes ngainst Dzfendunt Jeffrey Epstein soared in Dade County.
Florida. due to specific acts by Epstein there, and accordingly, venue is appropriate there.
Florida Statute 7.011,
2 Florida State 48.1930 Ka)( 1} foug-ann™) authorizes service oo both out-of-state
Thefendanis (Tykes MeDonald, snd Tyler MeDrnald dibad Yi.Ong
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3. Jurisdiction is proper in he Cicuis Court as tis action soaks rlicf in excess of fifteen
thowsand dollars (15.000).
FACTUAL ALLEGATIONS AS TO} DEFENDANT JEFEREY EPSTEIN
4. Dloiadiff Jean-Luc Brunch isthe ewnee of Plaintiff modeling agency known as “MC2
Model & Talent Miami” (“MC27). MC2 hegan operations in October 2005 and hs offices in
New York. Mian. sad ‘el Aviv.
5. Defendant Jeffiey Epecin (“Epstein”) is a hedge-fund manager with a residence in Palm
Beach County, Floida. Defendant has bees the subject of significant media coverage dus to
charges brought ugninst him insalving sexual camact with minors. (Composite Fxhihit A
atsached)
6 Plain Brunel sad Epstein have known one another since the inception of Plaintiff
mez.
7. Plaintiff Buunel operated his modeling agency. Ploi(ff MC2, without incident until
Fpstzin was Tis charged in Palm Beach County with unlawful sexu) conlact with a minor in
2006. He was convicted of soliciting prostisution from a wiinor and sentenced to cightcca
moths in prison. of hich he served thirteen months. Te remeins registeced sex affender in
Florida us of this das.
8 First after the initial ceimind] charges against Gpstein were filed in Palm Beach County.
Plaintiffs were widely implicated in che media as being “linked wo Epstein. These false stories
caused both PRntifs 4 tremendous 1055 4T business.
9. Plaintiffs Jose multiple contacts and busincss in fhe modeling business as a dircet result of
Epsicin's legal autions. Tor example, sevecal photagaphess will aol work with MC2 due to the
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adverse publicity surrouniing Fpsiein an Wis ileal activities. und the publicity fulsely linking
PlainifTs with thuse saivities; namely, sex rafficking. (Composite Exhibit A).
10. One example of such a photographer was Michael Avedon, who worked wits MC2 en
phot shoots. Avedon stopped answering Plaintiff emails and phone calls aftr having known
Plaintiff for some time. Upom aneeting Avedon out one aight. Avedon stated to PRintifl Brune!
he had “found out some information” fom same friends of his and tht he could not associate his
name with MC2.
11. This statement by Avedon was mo doubt a reference ia the wlleged and fuse links
berwieen Plaintiffs and Epstein’s ilicgal activities with under-aged gies. “This incident cleaely
illustroces an example of lost business on Plaintifs’ behalf
12. The second example of s business relasionship tat was terminated due 10 Epsiein’s
invencional and iflegal activiies was a very recent oni. involving an overseas agency. Modilines
Male] Agency. The owner stated that the model be placed with MC? “found some ancl in
intemnce, which changed her posiian and she pesferred (0 be placed with ancther agency.” This
was relayed tu Plaintil Brunel by email dated October 15,2014. This amply demonstrates that
Epstein’ intentional 4 sal activiios continwe to cost PlaindTs” business income. (Exhibit
attached).
13. Athied example of a loss business rslationship can bs found in an e-mail dated October
17,2014 (Exhibit C attocised). The disector of the | Mather Agency. Vidor Yulushkin, sates
that specifi model will mot sign with Plaintiff MC2 due fn her fear that Plaintiffs” will force
ering illegal activitics. The model bases her fears upon the siories on the internet falsely
implicacing Plaintiffs as being involved wich illegal activities wirh young models. This is
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noche example of a false link becween Epstein and Plaintiff, costing Plains” business
income.
1. A founh example of a los business relarionship can be found in a sesand s-mil dated
October 17. 2014 (Exhibit D attached). Manuela Martinez of Mega Partiess. a Brazilien
modeling agency, statcs to Plaintiff Brunel that her agency has been unable to work with Plaintiff
M2 fore the pst five Lo sis years because of the sex talTicking allegations against Plants.
This rerenes is clearly fo the false allegations online regarding sex trfTicking thal were bused
nthe false link berween Epsteic and Plaintiffs
15. A fifth example of a lost business relationship can be found in an e-mail dated
i Phaindi's behalf was an &anail dated August 27, 3010 from Michelle Stockman of Agence
Frunce Presse. (Fxhibit F uuched). Agence Prince Presse is & newswire service with a world
wide reach. Stoeknian wanted to meet with Plaintiff Bron! to arrange a model shoot with MC2.
However, due 1 the adverse publicity suerounding Plaintiffs a5 a result of Epsteie’s illegal
accivitics, Plaimiff Brunel was forced to foreya (and lose) this business appartunity becuse he
needed to keep a low-profile a this time.
16. A sixth example of lost business dus to Bpstein’s intentional and illegal activites can be
found in an e-mail dated December 12. 2014, (Exhivit ¥ anached). Michac) Sanks, a takat
sent wha had sworked with Phaictills for » ruraber of years, iforeed PlaintiT Brune) that he
cannot sign any new medals for Plaintiff Brunel's MC2 agency due fo the false sex trafficking
allegations online. Sunk goes on la state thal Plaintlf Bruoel’s MC2 agenwy will not allt any
ew models if Plaiatiff Brune) dees not clear up the false allegations.
17. A seventh example of los business due to Bpstein’s intentional and illegal activities can
te found in an cna from Fax Fashion Agency (Exhibie G anached). This c-mall clearly states
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that Fax has placed models with Plaintiff MG? in the pst with shealutely no problems.
However, because of the falsa internet trafficking links between Plaintifi's snd Epsiein. Fo sites
that it cannot place anymore models with PhaintifT MC2 until the allegations tee cleared up.
18. Before the false links between Plaintittand Epstein surfaced. Plaintiff Brunel was
corning s great deal of revepus fom C2 Miami.
19. The fase links beeween Plaines and Epsesin began 0 surface online in about 2005.
2006. Then, in 2006, PluintiTs received a Jeter of ecedit from Epstein at 5% interest. Plaintifls
then made an investment otaling one-million dollars with Flite Paris, tn sturt 4 company.
20. Next, PloiniT Brunel started the company. “E Maragerncor™, fa work with Elite Models
in Paris. Plaintiff had 10 close it almost immediately. because Elite didn’t send any models to
PlintiTMC? for eas of being linked to Epscein.
21. Beene the ule links between Plains und Epstein began to gain suength online. Ellie
Paris severed the agreement dh entirely o these false Finks. Plaintiff Beunel lust his investment
of ane.million dollars because of tis Joss of business.
22. Plaintifs lost pocemially fen-millian dollars in profits due Lo this initial sme-millivn dollar
Toss.
23. Addiomally, a former financial controller of MC2, Meritza Vasquez, sated in a 2012
depesition thal PlaiotIT Brunel bad never done angwhing inappropriate or illegal with any under-
age model. (Exhibits H1 & H2 Transcripl of Depasition of Maritza Vasquer).
26. Maritza Vasquez was fired from her job ac Plaintiff MC? for embezzling campany fonds.
aod had criminal charges filed against her (Composite Cxhibil 1 attached). She vias also the
source of the alse information Linking Plaintifls 10 sex teafficking in the articles writien by
Conchita Samo of the website Jezehel (Composite Fxhihit A. 72-7).
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25. Ui deposition tstimany of Maritza Vasquez referted to above clearly dmonsirees that
Plaintiff Brunel bes clean hands and was nevec involved in sex trafficking. All of Plaiotfls’
damages came solely from Fpausin's conduct.
26. Additionally. Plaintiff Beuncl has had significant delays in obtaining his vist to come to
the U.S. These delays were ata the resull of the fabs link hetween Plaintiffs and Cpsiein. As a
tesult of these dofays, Plaintiffs lost a considerable amount of xime & money. Intemational
vel isu significant component of PloindiT Brunel's MC? modeliog business. Plainti) Brunel
as been forced to cancel his latest visa spplicasion as a result of the delays. (Exhibit J —
Composite - Visa Doss).
23. Asaresult of the notoriety and sremendous publivicy surrounding psiein's criminal
charges. and the media linkage of Epstein to Plaindits regarding illegal activities, Plain lost a
tremendous amount of business and revenus,
28. Plaintiff Brunel’ agency MC2 has lox: millions of dollars in revenue since the media
vevedled that Pluietin and Epstein were associated. In fut, Plaintiff MC2 was worth millions ut
dollars; now, duc to the illegal actions of Epstein, MC2 is almost worthless.
20. Aun lime did Fpstein ever publicty state Uiat Plaintifs hid no rule whatsoevec in the
Epsicin’s illegal activities.
30. Asa result of Gpstela's illegal acdivities and his association with Plaintiffs, Plaintiffs
continue 10 105 money and suffer damages to this day. (Lichibit K. wsached. Jeff Fuller email,
1-12-14),
31. Plaintiff Brunel will need to spend millions of dollars in ander en restore his wines fo
shat it 53s once worth - money thal the Plain(ll Deus] does not have.
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32. Plaindff Brun continues 0 own and operate Plaintiff MC2 3 this day, their names
mover having been cleared trom the massive and totally negative medio coverage imalving
Epstein ants his illegal activities. PlaintiTs have been, und continue ta be, imparably harmed by
these fal invcrncrebased links to Epstein. (Exhibits R é 5 attached).
23. Second. Pluintft Brunel was also ld by Epstein to leave the Palm Beach rea in
amicipation of a deposition of Plaintiff Brunel in a criminal case against Epstein. On the direct
advice of Epstein, Plaintiff Brunel went 10 Gurope and Asia for period of time. This wos done
for the sole purpose of delaying Plsintiff Brunel's deposition.
34, Asa direct result of Plainifl Brunel's travels. bis deposition vas delayed twice. When it
as finally scheduled fir November 2009, Plainiff Brsncl was in fact svailatle (Exhibit i.
arched). However, a medical emergency in the family of his anotncy fuahce delayed iis
depusiion (Exhibit M attached). [1 was never rescheduled und he was never deposed.
35. This was » blatan example of abstruction of justice inthe criminal sase, Epstein was
solely responsible for telling Plaintiff Brunel to leave the acea. Plaintiff Brunel lost & huge
opportunity to clear his mame, and that of his agency, Plaintiff MCZ.
36. Third, os a cesult of all of the Facts stated above, Plainkill Brunel was under tremendius
psyshulagical pressun: throughout his period oF ime.
37. This psychological pressure tesulted in Plaintift Brunel avoiding business contacts as set
forth above. Tis pressure also directly caused Plain Brunel to avoid certain socio) contacts
during this pericd of time.
38, PIainsifF Bruncl became extremely withdrawn and anxious at is tie.
39. Epstein’s contut was the direct cause of PlaintIT Bruncl’s psyuhilegical state. The
press was reparcing extensively on the Turd details of Epsiein’s illegal activities with the under
aged giels
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0. As stated above, the press ceports were roneusly connecting bith Plain
Epstein's iflegsd setvilies. (Cempusice Exhibit A attached).
a1. Epscin's illegal activities were outrageous and extreme: they invelved eeceiving
massages from the under-aged girls while the girls were nude or nearly-nude; penetration of the
girts with a finger or object; o full-intercoucse.
4. These activities described shove cused PlainglF Brunel severe emotion disaress. Tn
fact, PlaiatifF Brunel has recently undergone psychotherapy with a local psychologist, De. Ruyee
N. Jalisco, us cesult of Epstein’ actions and the negative resus om his business. (Fxhibics N &
© tached).
43. Claincitt Brunel Is emotionally destroyed as @ result of Epstein’s actions ond the resultant
ffsts on his business. He has been on medications to deal with the effecss of this. (Composite
Exhibit ? - Medical History).
M4. PluintifTs have been damaged hy the conduct of Defindant Epscin, und have sceordingly
etsined undersigned coumsel ta represen him in this niatrer and are obligated to pay counsel a
ceasoutble Jee for his secvices.
45. Defendant Tylee McDonald (“McDonald") is the ownerfoperator of Y1.0rg and also docs
business as Y1.0rg ~ Defendant [yler McDonald diva Yi.org ("McDonald d/bfa Yi.0re')
Defeiduit McDonald resides in the state of Washington. ¥i Ore in x website hosting service
hased in Vanemver, British Columbia, Canada.
46. In aboul 2009. Yi org. by and through the actions of its owner, Molonald, began hosting
websites tha contained hyperlinks that contained blatant false and exueniely dispacaion
information about PlaintifT. (Exhibit Q stathed - hyperlink screenshot)
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4%. These links elendy and falsely associated Plaintiffs with illicit escort services in the sue
of Florida: information which Defendants MeTanald and McDanald dia Yi. Org knew, or
should hav known, was false.
4B. These links have damged PlainGif Branels reputation a5 an owner of a well-established
‘modeling ageney with affices in New York and Mian, Plaintiff MC2
49. These links have also damaged the reputation of both Plaintiffs
50. the combined damage to the reputation ta both Plaintits has tssulled in a significent boss
of revenue Co Plenty MC2, ond accordingly, Plaintiff Brunel.
SI. PluinsTMO2's revenues have fallen fo 4 mere fraction of what hey were before the
appearance of the links on Y1.0re.
52. Doth Defendants McDonald dv Vi.Org and Mebonald assist! in the dissemination of
the false and negate information that damaged Phintitls reputation and directly caused
daonages to Plaintists
53. Plains Grune continues to own and operate Plaintiff MC2 to Unis day, both aames sil
Raced by the flse and negative association with escort secvices in Florida
$4. Acconlingly. Plaindifl have heen severely damaged by information on websites hosted
by Vi.Org, which ls mvintained. owned and operated by Defecdams McDunald dfbia Yi Org and
McDonald,
55. “Ihe informacion disssminated by the websites hosted by Defendants MeDanuld dia
Vi. Or: and McDonald was false and defamatory to the extreme regarding Plaintist alleged
involvement with cscort sevices in the state of larida.
56. Defendants McDunuld dbia Yi.Org and VicDonald have made no attempt to clear the
names of Plaintiffs with regard to the false and defamatory information disseminated by the
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websites they hosted,
57. Plaintlfs contimie to do business 10 his das their names never having been cleared from
the negaive information disseminated by Defendants MeDonald diva Yi Org and McDonald.
58. Plaiadifs have beea damaged by the vonduct ot Defendants McDonald hia Yi. Org and
MacDonald, und have accordingly retained undersigned counsel to represent him in this mater,
aud arc obligated to pay counsel a reasonable fee for his services.
COUNT I EQUITABLE RELIEF FOR | 08S OF BUSINESS AND REVENUE - ASTO
59. The allegations conained in paragraphs | through 44 above are re-alleged ond
incurporated herein by ceference
60. Plaintiffs have lost n significant amount ot business reveaus because of the actions of
Defendant Epstein set forth shove.
G1. Plaindiffs fave no adequate legal remedy to make him shale 55 a cosh of ths damages
sulfiered in the form of ost business revenue due Lo the actions uf Defendunt Epstein,
6. Accordingly. Plaintii seeks to become whole by the payment of damages by Defendant
Epstein to compensate him foc his losses,
WHEREFORE. PLAINTIFFS roguest judgment against DEFENDANT as follows.
A. Damages in excess of fifteen-(housand dollacs: cial by jury ad
B. Geant ther such relief as is spproprisie
COUNT IL OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE — EQUITY - AS TO DEFENDANT
JEFFREY EPSTEIN
63. fhe allegations contained in paragraphs 1 through #1 above ore e-alleged and
incorporated herein by cefecence.
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64. Plaintiff was forced to commit illegal aces by traveling away from the sight of the
deposition and during the Gms period of the deposition.
65. Defondant Epsicin stempled to subvert juscice and this atten contribuced to the
destruction of Plainsif's business, PIintiff MC2. Plaiodief Buunel lost subsisuinl ime away
from his business and incurred expenses in following Fpsiein's commands,
G6. Plaimiffs were substantially damaged a3 a Gircot sult of Epstein’s actions.
WHEREFORE, PLAINTIFFS request judgment against DEFENDANT as follows:
A. Damages in excess of fifcen-thousand dollars; ial by jury and
B. Grand cther such relief as is appropiate.
COUNT II = INTENTIONAL INFLICTION OF EMOTIONAL DISTRESS UPON
"ELAINTIEE BRUNEL - AS TG DEFENDANT JEFFREY EPSTEIN
672. ‘The allsgations contained in paragraphs | though 4 sbuve wee re-alleged und
incorporated herein by reference.
08. Defendais Epstein cocklossly inflicted emotional distress upon PlaindT Brunel by
engaging in illegal candiset with under-sgged gicls, which ws falsely linked 10 Plaintiffs,
69. This illegal conduct was extrerse and outrageous by any standard.
70. This exiceme and outrageous conduct was the direct cause of extreme emotional distress
in Plaindiff Brunel,
WHEREFORE, PLAINTIFF BRUNEL eoyuests judgment ugaiost DEFENDANT us follows:
A. Domages in excess of fificen-thousnd dollars; tial by jury and
B. Grout ther such celie is is appropeistc
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IO NEFENDANTS TYLER MCDONALD AND MCDONALD I/B/A Y1.ORG
71. The ollegations contvined in parageaphs | through 3 & 45 through S8 shove are re-
alleged and incorparated herein by refercuce.
72. Plaintiff. trough i agency MC2, has lost 6 significant amaunt of busisess revense
because af the sctioms of Defendants MeDanad diva Yi.Org and McDonald set forth shave.
73. Plaintiffs have no adequate legat teimedy to rake hit whol as a sesult of the damages
sullen in the firm of lust business revenue due to the uations of hath Defendunes.
7a. Accordingly, Plaintiffs seek © become whole by the payment of damages by both
Defendants to compensate him for his losses.
WHEREFORE, PLAINTIFFS request judgmen: sgainst DEFENDANTS as follows
A. Damages in excess of fitesa-thousand doles iad by fury and
B. Gol uher such relief us is uppropriaie.
COUNT V ~ DEFAMATION AGAINST PLAINTIFFS — AS TQ DEFENDANTS TYLER
75. “The allegations concained in paragraphs | rough 3 & 35 through 58 above are te-
alleged and incorporated herein by reference.
76. Defendants McDonald d/h Y3.Org and McDonald published or causes to be published,
false setaincats about PALS using Weir domain host service.
77. Defendunts MeDonuld dfhia Vii Org anil Mofonald knew, or should have known, that the
statements aba Plinifis were false.
8. These published statements were read by che ekemmecs users who viewed the lsc
statements.
0. Plainuiff business reputations were severely damaged as a result.
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WHEREFORE. PLAINTIFFS request judgment ugsinst DEFENDANTS as follower:
A. Damages in excess of fficen-thousand dollars trial by jury and
B. Grant olhec such celief us is uppropriute.
COUNT V1 FOUITABLE RELIEF FOR REPAIR OF BUSINESS REPUTATION - AS
IO UEFENDSNTS TYLER MCDONALD & TYLER MCDONALD D/B/A! YLORG
80. The allegadons contained in peragraphs 1 through 3 & 4 through 8 shove are re-
alleged and incorporated herein by refeccnce.
BI. Plaintifts have also suffered a significant lows of their business reputations us dicey
esol af the actions af Defendants McDonald dia ¥i.0rg and McDenald.
82. Plaintiffs have no adequate legal remedy o make then whole as a rosult ofthe damages
sullsced in the form af Jost business ceputations due tn the sctions af bith Defendants,
8). Accordingly. Plaintiffs sccks to restore their business reputations by the payment of
damages by both Defendants to compensate them for their loss of reputations.
WHEREFORE, PLAINTIFFS request judgment against DEFENDANTS 3s follows:
A. Damages in excess of fifleen-thousand dollacs: triad by jury wd
B. Grunt other such relief as is appropriate.
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Joe Titone
Atceiey
FL BAR 5: 203882
£21 SF. * Syreer
Pomgano each, Florida 33060
(954) 729-6450
(954) 9412232 (FAX)
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Epstein Faces Sex-Traffic Probe
The Tuscice Depurtment is investigating Jefrey Epstein for child trafTicking. The Daily Beast has.
learned —and has widened the seope of its probe to include u fsmaus modeling agency.
Tledge-fund manager Jetfrey Cpstein completzd his sentence for scliciting prostitucion with a
‘mina last seek. But it appears his problems may not be over. Now The Daily Beast has leamed.
that:
Fuleral fnventigators ction ts investiga Epaein’sweiitie, 1 se whether there is
cvidence uf child ra Shea far more serous sharge than the wn in bi noe.
Drosscution agresment, th arrangement between Fin and the Department of Justice
Slowing Din to lead guilty to lower.(evl State crimes. Trafficking can carey a 20-year
+The FBI is also investigating Epstein's friend Jean Lug Krunel, whose M2 modeling
agency appears lo have been a source of girls from overseas who ended up on Epstein's
private jets.
Because Epstcin's predatory habits stretch back many years and involved dazens of young-
looking gitls, here may well be more cvidense to uncover,
who accepted cash sefttements in these civil suits agreed not 10 testify against him or speak
publicly about the case. However, new evidence developed by the Department of Justice on other
offenses aot covered by the agreement. including allegations by additional victims who come
forward, could lead to new charges. There is no stanwe of limitations wn the federal sex-
uatticking law. which was also enacted by the state of Florida in 2002. Beceuse his predatory
‘Tuhits stretch back many years und involved dozens ul young-looking gic, there may well be
morn ever 9 inceve. (Severs young women hoc is be Pgein viet have ecenly
contacted a Fr. Lauderdale Lawyer, but to date no new civil complaints have been filed.)
+ Gonshira Samet Le ilionaice lies es. en
« Billionaire Pedophile Gocs Free
‘These new developments come one week after the publication of twa adticles in The Daily Beast
about Epstein’s pattem of sexual contect with underage girls, which Palm Beach police began
investigating in 2003 and the U.S. Aftomey”s office then scttied in 1.2007 plea deal, The first
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ariel: quoted a deposition by then=Talm Beach Chief of Police Michae! Reiter, ic which he
stated chat Epstein, a billionaire with many powerful friends. bad receives special treatment in
both his plea deal and the terms of his inacceration. Although federal investigators at one point
produced a draft 53-page indictment against ipstin. he was eventually allowed 10 plead guiliy
0 only two reladvely minor sta charges and teceive a short term of icoceradion. 13 months in
the connty jail, during which he went 0 the ¢HTice every day, und on y2ac of community control,
during which he traveled frequent to New York und his private island ic the Vicgin Islunds.
“The Daily Beast hee now discovered another ingtaaoe in which Epstein agpasensly ceceived
special consideration: AS a convicted sex lfendee. he is reguired by law tb unde un impartial
peychclogical evalustion prior t sentencing und to reeeixe pychialric treatment during and afier
incarceration. This s because child molestors fend to be rep offenders with Bigh rcs of”
recidivism. According (0 a source in law enforcement, however, Epstein was allowed to submit a
seport by Ais private peycaologisc, Dr. Stephen Alexander of Pains each, Florida. whose phone
bos since been disconnected with no forwarding information.
“The Daily Beasts second anicle provided details abous Epstein’s systemadic abuse of undecage
girls at his Palm Beach mansion. shere members of his staf allegedly recruited and paid a
parade of teenagers, most of then 16 or younger, 10 perlorm oily massages that devolved ints
smastuchation, 2ruping, sad sometimes full-blon soxusl contact, [also revealed « monetary
relationship betieen Epstein and Jean Lue Brunel, s frequent visitor to wham he gave $1 million
around che same time that Aruncl was starting his MC2 modeling agency. Some of the Young
girls MC2 recruited from ovarscas—often from Easter Europe and South Ainerica—are Known
have been passengers on Epsiein's private jets.
“The 11S. Atormney General's Office in Florida says that itis against policy to contin ox deny the
existence of an investigation Jeffrey Epstein’s lawyer. Jack Goldberger. says he has no
Knowledge of an ongoing probe, end he told The Duly Beast. “Jeffrey Epstein has fully
complied with al state ad federul requiremees that arise from the prior proceedings in Palm
Beach. There are no pending civil avsuits, hore arc nos and should not 06 any peciding crimindl
investigations, given Me. Epcin's complete fultllen of al the teas of his nun-prosecution
aecesiment will te ders) goverment,”
Conchita Sarnaff has developed multimedia communication programs for Forme SHO
compas cnd has produced three ctrvent-cuens debate TV programs. The Ameticss Toram,
From Beirut 0 Kabul. and a segment for The Oppevhzioer Report. She is writing a book cho
child trafficking in America
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bissexden im
The Billionaire Pedophile’s Sex Den
Hedge fund mogul und sex affender Teffrey Epstein, whn went fice this week, lived ina
depraved world of thricc-daily massages. pornographic artwork, and hush motcy—that's only
now being evealed. Conchita Samoft reports on the sordid deals in part two of ber exclusive
exposé.
Hedge fund mogul and sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, who went free this week, lived in a
depraved world of thrice duly massage, pornographic artwork, uad hush money —that's
only now being revealed. Conchita Sarno reports on the s0r6id details in part twa of ber
exclusive expose. Alsas
+ Nude images of young girls were scattered around the house und the bathroom soap was
shaped like sex organs
+ Staff trolled for fresh recruits to make sure Epstein bad two or three massage
appointments cach day
+The house manager has been scatenced to a longer prison term than Epsteiu—{or trying
to sell uotes regarding massage uppoiatmeats
+ Fpwtcin gave Si millon to his friend Jean Luc Brunel when be was starting the modeling
agency MC2
+ According tn farmer hrckkeepar, young girls were brovght fa the L$, by MCZ-—often
from Eastern Europe—then traveled on Epsiein's private jets
Jetfr Lpstein's Joyal friends say that his prosecution was unduly harsh, rather than
outragecusly lenient They insist that his sexual habits. although obsessive and unusual, were
mostly legal and essentially harmless. As the police records aticst. the girls brought to EI Brille
Way wesc routinely told they could “say no” al any lime during a massage as Epstein escalated.
contact in a step-by-step assauit that was remarkably similar in every victin's statement: First
he veld be ake to emo her shir, the her pnts, He would tempt 1 foal her butocks
and hreases ay he mesturhated, then bring out a large vibrator. There was sometimes digital
penerration, and the more willing girls were lured into full-blown sexual relations with both
Epitein and Nadia Maccinkona. who was refered o in press accounts and police reports 5
Epstein’s live-in “sex slave.”
A foie baokdesps in the Mian offic, wha als sere vss for is ras lm the (15
wonlirmen that MC? girls hecame frequent guests on Fpstein’s private jets.
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o's tre that some underage girls may have lied about theic age, and sowe cane o the huuse
voltarily sever tres although, duovrding 10 Florida statutes, mone of thal has any hearing
on the criminglity of the contact. particularly 3 the irl wos 16 or youngee. But what is
marticulurly disturbing xbewt this case—judging by srrangemens at the Palm Beach house—is
that Epsin, a billionaire hedge-fund manager, organized his life around this sexual compulsion
in an open and mcthodival way lat suggests he fel he was beyond the lav.
+ Conchita Samofl: Epsicin aces Sex Traffic Probe
+ Billipnair: Pedophile Goes Free
According to police wha executed a search warrant. the house ws decorated with large, framed
‘Phatos of nude young: irl, and similar images wre found stashed in a armor: and on the
computers seized st the hous (sltough police found aaly bare cables where other computers
had been), Some batiooms were stocked with soap in the shape of Sex organs, aad variaus sex
toys, such a5 8 “twin orpeda” vibrator and Crean end 1ubticats availtble ul exotic specially
shops. were stowed ear the massage tables set up in several roms upstairs.
Fite alin enlisted his staff in the predaveey activity, and four—Saerh Kellen, Adriana Ross.
Lesley Gro, and Marcinkove—figured in the FBI investigation. The Non Proscuution
Agreement stipulated that they would mot be charged. According to police reports and swom
Matements in tho civil suits all four women, amon their ather dutics, worked 0 ensue thac an
sppuiniment baak for twice- ar theice-aily “massages” was stoked with fresh recruits.
Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of the arc Czcchoslovakian-boen press baron Robert Maxwell, who
was for many years Epsein’s live-in partnee. also recruited young girls
Since his |3-month seneence for soliciting prostitution with a minor. Epstein as seticd aoe
han dozen lawsuits bought by underage girls. Seve victims ceached a lus-minule deal last
wick. days before a scheduled tial each received well over SE million—un amount that wil
hurdly den Epstein's 52 billion nel worth.
“The victims told polics they waited in the kitchen to bs called upstairs for a massage. and the
house chef often gave them a kite eax. House manager Alfredo Rodriguez said in his sworn
Statement tt & maid named Lupita, who wes a devout Catholic, wept when she complained to
hin about cleaning up after the massage sessions, picking up soiled towels and putting away the
sox toys. And she was upscc that photo of Epstein with the gone hung next @ ene of him wih a
young girl
Tronically. Rodriguez who ran the house on £1 Brillo Way [n 2004 and 2005. ended up being
seneneod fo more il ime than bis boss 25 a result of tbe omplex investigation into Cpsiein's
activites. Lie was lied, he says. Gor inadvertently drawing police stention ta on of che girls
shin she arvved ut the house unamamunced to collect money. He sav an unfamiliar “beater” in
the drivewsy onc evening and called 911. When he left Epstein’s amploy. Rodriguez ook awoy
<ome pote and crnils about massage appointments as “protection” against his own prosecution,
and failed 1o produce them ducing the Palm Besch Police Department's initial investigation.
Unable to get work as a house iuanager elsewhere in South Florida. he says. Rodrigues later tried
Wo sell his “golden nugget" his erm—tor S000, @ be used in the victims’ civil suis.
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Lnfortunstely, he made the offer to an undrvoves Gop, and was subsequently chieyed with
“obstruction of official proceedings foe withholding information that could have advanced the
ciminal invesdigation of Epstein— which Ly that point had been setied in a plea deal. Rodrigue,
as sentenced to 18 montis in fede] prisan (Epstein wax allowed 1 serve 13 months in the
Pals Beach county jail), and naw awaits an additional sentence an Aug. 24 in federal court in
Miami for ranspiring firearms, another deal he says he made te pay the bills ates he lost his
nb.
In a degorition given for the civil suits. Rodrigues testified that hz was instructed to always have
2.000 im cash on hand. 50 ths he cculd pay bath the girls who gave wassages und porters
such as Haley Robson who brought thew to the hase. He alsa testilied thot Epstein rae large
conaibtions to the Palen Beach Police Deporimen. onl in return was given PPT baseball hats
10 put on the dashboard of his various cars to avoid being stopped or ticketed by local police.
Retired Palice Chief Michac Reiter, in his own deposition, acknowicdeed that. i addition to
carlics donations to the police departient (which ace fairly commen in well-heeled Palm Beach).
Epstein had ruscntly given he department S100.000 for same saphisticated equipmens. The
police were still cesearching the purchase when Fpicin came under suspicion. and Reitec
andersd the money retumed. (Guy Frostin, one of Epsicin’s local atomeys. told police that
Epstein elo gave $300,000 10 the Florida Hallet for massages, because he was “very passionate”
shout massages being “therapies and spiciually” beneficial. Yet victims lold police they
had no massage maining.)
Perhaps mast disturbing, in terms of possible sex trafficking, was Epstein's relationship with
Jean Lue Brunel. ower of the MC2 modeling agency. According 0 a cainpiaint filed in the U.S.
District Caurt for the Southern Disteice of Floride, on alleged victim seid that Epstein, Maxwell.
Brunel. Rodriguez. and Marciokovu “deliberately engaged in u puttsm of racketeering that
involved luring minor children through MC2, mostly girls under the age of 17. to engage in
sexual play for mancy. (Which would amount to trafficking.)
Brunel is a S0-plus French playbuy wha was formerly part owner of Karin, a Paris-based
mlefing agen. He lives in New York and South Beach, Florids, snd owns 5 percent ol MC2,
which has offices in New York, Mises, and Tel Aviv. {The remaining 15 percent is owned by
his parince. Jeff Fuller) Brunel is been observed as a house guest a Gpsizin’s Pals Beach
home and may well have had contact with him also in New York. where Epstein owas a lavish
home. and in Paris. where Epsicin keeps an apartment on elegant Ave, Foch.
CBS reporter Cai Pyes, who investigated Brunel far u 60 Mimutes broadest many yeors ago, it
quoted in Michael Grass” book sbout the modeling industry, biel: Tho Ligh Husiesy of
Buundiful Homen, Pyes told the suthor that Brunel “ranks among the sleaziest peaple in the
fashion industry. We're talking aban a conveyor bel not a casting couch. }undreds of girls
were not only harassed but molested.” Now The Daily Beast has learned tha: Epstcin had made a
SU million wire trausfe to Braoel’s offshore hank aceount in September 2004. just os he was
setting up MC2. Whether this was a gift or 1 loan o a backdoor investment in dhe new venture is
unknown. A French citizen who nianaged to avoid giving evidence in the Epstein investigation.
Brunel declined to coimient on any of this. us ues Fuller. Asked in April of Brunel's activites,
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Fpstein sid *)'m 100 percent convinced that he doesn't traffic childen * (Bronel hos never been
charged.)
An American fashion desigrer who bocked het gicls through MC2 says they were very young
and very beautiful muty were fiom Eastern Eucope and spoke litle English. A former
oukkeepec in the ueowy's Miami ullec. who alo arranged vives for girls traveling t the 1S
confined that MC? girls became frequent guests on Fpstzin's private jets.
Pilot logs obtained in the civil suits show thal some of the named plaintiffs were on the light
eanilosts. Othe lies, Lhe piluL would just Fist the nther passengers plus "female."
Kaliror's Note: An earlier version of this article isidentfice the sublet uf Craig Pyes'
investigation and the tie of Michael Gross” book. The Daily Beast hus corrected the subject and
tle ani regrets the error.
Rend Conshild Sarmofls vrivival runt on Eptein,
Conchica Sarnoff hav developed multimedia communication programs for Forme 500
companies and has produced three current events debate tolevivion programs, The Americas
Forum, from Beirst to Kabul, aid a segment for The Oppenheimer Report. She is a contributor
0 The Hufingion Past. She is welling a book abou child trafficking in America
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MC2 Modeling Agency Involved In Sex Trafficking
August 11.2010
On Avigust 4h Jezebel ran the following story: Te Se. Tealieking Moule Secu.
Perhaps mast disaitbing, in terns of possible se cafficking, was Bpsiein's relationship sith Jesn
Luc Bruncl. own of the MC? modeling sgency. Accunding lo » complain fled in the 11.5.
District Courl or he Southern District nf Finrida. an alleged viotim said that Epstein, [asistont
and yicriend Ghisluine] Maxwell, Rruncl, [hovse mamager Alficdo) Rodriguez. and Marcinkova
“deliberately engaged in a patter of acketcering that involved lucing minor children thraugh
MC2, mostly girls under the age of 17. to engage in sexual olay for meney.
The previous paragraph in the siory read:
ad raking [spescing of JelTrey Epstein] frequent $106,000 damations to the Palm Beach Police
Department sould fnsulass him from prosecution for his various depravites
‘Which included. for tse record: busi a 14-yese-okd Yugloslavian named Natalia Marcinkova
feoun he pares in onder Lo keep Marcinkova as his "sex slave: paying a retinue of wonien to
trawl Palm Beach for teenagers economically desperate enough 10 agree to give Epsicin
“massages” that aficn led to sexnal contact: eceiving two 12-year-old French gies as » “hinhday
present”; and heficating Michael Wolll
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He's helping others get away with child-sex trafficking
Posted ou August 20, 2011 by Betty Fokker
Let's dhcuss that billionaire doucho-fuco child-rapise, Joey Epstein fora moment shall
we? Ho's someone wh likes to have scx with venerable inderage girs. including 12 yeae old
air wh are raffcked into the US under the guise that they will beeonie models. is partner in
erie was Joan Luc Bruel. owner an “talent scaut of the MC2 “modeling agency”. Epstein
coincidently vested a illic bucks in the MC2 Kiddie-parm-sing modeling agency and lez
Teunel use his privet jel
“The FBI sinks Epstein has ussuulted/molested abut 40 ur su youn wirls. So he's going to
prisun for the rest of is if right? Wrong,
Whe faced wich the best defense lawyecs mouey could buy. the prosecutors wimped out und
male & plea bu goin su light it hggles the mid. This kid-raping bastard amly hud 0 please
ity 1 vo MINOR charges und geo private cell, a cell he ges tn lease on “work relesse
program” hy the way.
ow, 1 am not blaming his defense atoeneys. They were doing their job and, undec ae
constitution, ¢ festering: anus like Epsteio has the right to the best attorneys he can afford,
Jam livid with the prosecuting attorneys, It was their job to do everything in their power t bring
this vonit-inducing ahit-sack w justice. Instzul, they decided to gutlesaly pander w his wealth,
privilege, sou powerful defenso team. They rolled over and did everything hut send in annher
Kid 10 ive thix fucker & handjob. So this vermin got away with raping 12 year old girls because
the prosceuting adameys couldn't find a single testicle/ovary to shies aniong them.
And do jou know what their chicken-shit kowiowing to Epstein bas wrought? Ics opened the
oor for other child-scx teaffiskers to get lighter seniences for ther cme to. Wh should they
have (0 pay when be dida’t? Aer il. it was just ics they were trallicking [or sex with
disgusting older males ( refuse Ls call something Bike Epstein “man it insults men)... they:
weren't harmicg anyihing of any valu in our cole!
I'm a feminist because | thiok, girls & women have value. What a crying, fucking shume there
wasnL une feminist in (he prosecutors office 10 go after chis monster and punish him, What pity
aver hell-spuwn might get away with trafficking pils for sx more casily because of the shit-
foe-brains attorneys who lec Epstein get aviay with bis crimes.
My eyeballs are melking with rage.
Never mind. They aren’ melting. T's just tears of helpless and despairing rage against an unjust
Tegal syste ur the altura devabuaion of women and girls.
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Jeffrey Epstein, the billionaire Bill Clintoo pal whe just left jail efter completing a sentence tor
soliciting sex with a minor, may be headed back socn: The Daily Beast reports that the Justice
Depriment venga i fo hl mck,
Epstein. famous for bei rich, being friends with ili Clinton, huving un ee-shaped penis, and
being a vindictive persen, can't be prosecuted uguin for the charges he copped to in his plea eal,
But pecording to The Daily Boust's Conchita Samed, new charges might be coming:
As we learned in Vanity Fai yesterday, Bill Clinton hes spent his post-presidenciat life, , Read
Federal investigators continue fo investigate Gpsiein's activities. Lo see whether there is evidence
of child rafficking-a far more serious charge than the te in his non-prosecution agreement, the
ercangement between Epstein und the Department of Justice allowing him © plead guilty to
lower-level state crimes. Trafficking can camy a 20-year sentence.
Since there's uo stulute of imitations for sex-tesfficking, and Epsteir's predatory adventures
upparently dute hack more than a few years, is likely there's more women who could come
Soran (Apt Sem hove CARS uy. ut rhs bn Hed 1
t's mot just Cpstein, either—his huddy Jean Lue Brunel, head of the MC2 modeling agency. is
alsa being investigated, and same of the models he represeaned (many from pverscas) may have:
been enlisted as companions on Epstein peivale jet
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MIAMI (AP) — Nearly decals age, 3 wealthy financial guru came under FBI investigation.
suspected of sexually abusing dozens of underage girs at his Palin Beach waasion. Then.
abrupsls. Use iovstigation was draped ur felfrey Fpstein pleaded gaily lisa single sine
larg of soliciting prostitution. [Te served just aver a scar in ail.
Now, twa wamen ho say ies wes umeng bis victins bave wi a presedent-velling apoeh
oust ruling ntiding Use Lo see all the dcumerts from Ure ples args discussions between
Epsieints high-puseri lun yers and flees: prosecutors,
Phir goal: use those flos 2 undo the agement. ceopen th vestigation and sucjeut Fpstein
more eharges,
The ssumen's lawyers contend Fpsecin got special seamen because of his walds and
connzetians, His atorneys deny that.
Epstein. 61. made Hundesds of millions of doles managing fusds for rich cliznis. Snorly after
is 2008 guilty ples. it came to light fags Wis lawyers hag scot (cached a non-prosecution
agreement maths earlier wids the U.S, Justice Departuncol that sped hin a potentially easier
punishment,
"Our complain alleges that, prodded by Epstein. the Bids prosseutoss deliberately convealed
the sweetheart plea deal they made vith Ri tw avid public citcisin.” sid Paul Cossell, +
Universis of Uta kaw profissor seh is represerting the bse women
The US. atomey’s office in Mini would rot comment. But the LS, arorey at he tine. R.
Alexander Acosta. seid in a 2011 leer delading his ollice that more evidence ceme Uo light
after Epsteis made his deal.
"Many wictims have spoken ous, filing detailed sateinents in civil cases seeking damages.
Physical evidence ks bean discoveevd.” Avoata wre, “lad these additonal statements md
sviduics bees hiown. (e wutgme may have been differen.”
pin hs tried owsuics fo ondisclosed antunts with nan of Use women who say they wer:
widens when Urey were pai fi ses.
Th case represents the fist ime a feders) appuas uur bos led Sc the Crime Victims’ Rights
Act of 2004 guatentees itis he ight © be informed ahout the details of how a ples bargain
San relied. aecording to Tegal experts and lawgers involved in the case, The bi naked the
culminacian of forts hegen in the 196015 1a give crime victims mone of 3 sy
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“I hope that the case will ulimatels set an imporsant precedent that fideral prosseutoss vast ke
‘ictits in the deck whout the plea deals that they reach.” Cassell said.
Epstein served 13 months of an 18-month sentence an the prostitution charge, sold hs Palm
Reach Ran in 2011 tind now divides his time between 3 New York Cy home. a Caribbean
island aad an partment in ars, 95502 10 court documents. He sls las a large New Mexico
ranch.
le donates huge sum exch sea, particulaely toward projects involving new sedi tratments
and dctificial intelligence, His foundation established a Harvard Univesity progeam that uses
mithemaics te stud evolionasy biology. viruses and disease.
According to lusts Filed by some of i accusers. Epstein relied on assistants o 1oéruit
wnlerage gieh to give him nrsssages and pertonm se acts, They were wally paid shout S200.
Some girls tere norified about Use vestigation heginping in 2006. Hit they weren's fold about
he negotiations with federal presecutors for ut least nine months, despite s reuisemest in the
Crime Victims’ Rights Act thet they be kept inforined. The two women who were 13 and 14
‘whe, the alleged assauls occurred — sued for the files and vor.
“Although plea xegetitiens ane vital ta the fanctioning of the criminal justice systeun. &
praseculor and get of x criminal prosecution 60 not enjoy a selatvnship of confidence and
tous when they negotiate.” the appeals court said.
Fedoral proseciiiors Rave begun tuning over the documents,
pins attomay. Roy Black. ti celebrity lawyer wh is ala: representing lustin Bicber in his
DUI and esisting-arst cass in Mismi Beach, declined to comment hat hes asked that the.
documents be kept from pubic view. and so far they have been.
In May 23 can ling. Black said hat then was no conspiracy between prosecutors und
Epstains team to violate the vicdms' rights kav. und that the non-prosecution agement
contained many provisions Tpstein stcongly opposed. such as registering is 4 sox oflender and
agreeing nut contest certain lavsuits.
“This #38 10 sw eettsort deol by amy stretch of the imagination.” Black said in court papens.
Even ifs judge invalidates she plea deal. itil sil be up w federal prosecitons io decile what
wa
“The cur can't force the prosecutors 0 bring clases.” said Ma Alexrod. x former Reders!
prasecutor na in pee practic in Washington.
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Conchita Sarnoff
Communieations expec
Regulating Modeling Agencies to Help
Prevent Child Sex Trafficking
Posted 021102017 £49 pm
In 2010, Jezebel, an online site, publislid “The Sex Trafticking Model Scout” warning shout the
dangers of dercgulated modeling ageacies in the U5.
Given the grawing number of modeling agencies thet transport underage teenagers from foceign
coumciss nt the Lite States nd th geowing sex tad of underage is the LS. why docs
this industry remain deregulated?
Since the sven of his business. modsling agancis have hc fe eign 0 Scout feenagess fom
‘every stake in the country as well as every nation in the world. Moay of these teenuge girls come
from cconemically disadvantaged families aod are ofTeced note 1 very limited protection while
traveling and working as "madels.”
Jezebel reported that Jean Luc Brunel, one of re ust of charautsrs involved in the ongoing
Jetiiey Epstein (a Level 3 ceisiered sex afTender). eight-year-longs cuse, has been working for
aver two decades with a succession of agencies in New York and Paris. According 10 media
reparts, Diane Suv ver produced n segment far CBS's 60 Minutes fearing a scx scandal that
svenually le Eileen Ford (founder of renowned Ford modeling agency) icp wari With
Brunel,
Grunls latest vemurs is the modeling ageney MC2 based in South Beach, Fl. with satelite
offices in New York and Tel Aviv. Since his agency is dereputated and "no criminal hares
have been filed by any of bis accusers” — ulthouph many have tried lo serve him inching
luswyers representing Epstein victims, Brunel continues tn hide behind his French citizenship ro
prevent depositions. “Trawling for $11" underage teenagers to work for his agency. MC2, or
anyons else who requests. Brunel is free to scout for very young wils without limitations.” Given
his citizenship he also successfully avoided deposition in Cpstein's sex related cases.
Like so many other reporters who have tried © report bis side of the story when Jesrbel
contacted Brunel, "be did 510 respond 10 au interview request.” According to Jezchel:
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we oie to nmr of peaple lo irked with his ancy and while MC? in considered a
mor industry player, i rt exacly hotorm-shelF either. Bron) fst involved with he
business cn a duy-to-day busis, although he owns sn 85 percent stake in MC2. nswad, he does
scouting for the agency and tekes care of the interuatioaal relations with other wgencis. coparts
one source. Scouts scout the world for unrepresented teenage pirls who could make it as models.
They work lacgely wisupervised und ure generally paid s headhunting fee for every girl an
agency signs. Even when ulliliated with sn agency, as Brunc| obviously is with MC2, scouts
operate mostly independently nnd with litle oversight. The company blog refers to Brunel as a
"scouting tsunami’ and MC2 is fairly well known tor the streagth of its international scouting.
Model. Michael Groas's 1995 book, describes Brunel's activities in Paris from the late 1970s
onwards, when he worked for. and eventually owned, the modeling sgency Karin. “Jeun-Tuc is
considered a Gauge.” says Howe Barmousrie. “(rani Kevin wa dream [1 playboy: His
problem i tha he Kiows exactly wha ir i rouble ar Inoking Fo. He's always been on he
Clje of hesysiem.”
Jahn Casablancas, founder of Elite modeling agency said:
1 really despise Jean-Luc as » human being for the way he's cheapened the business. There is no
justice. This is a guy who should be behind bars. There was a little zeoup, Jeun-L ac, Patrick
Gilles, and Varsano. ‘They were very well known in Paris for couming the ulubs. They would
vit in arp og es Gren Erbe Knees fg were cepa Cop 02)
professional rival wha was pushed mu of is agency for uesiomable conestns
Katic Ford human raffcking abl nist and Eileen Fund daughter, eked the il Sees
Journal magazine, In thal stury “A Mudel Trade Union,” Ford describes herselas a "roving
ambassador” to help stap human tracking. Ford sold her stake in the family business in 2007 to
the privote equity fiem Stone Tower Equity. “In har new life as a neaely full-time, unpaid, roving
ambassador for the cause her job is an outgrowth of her former work. rather thao o repudistion of
it. nr an aronemant.
Her interest in human trafficking began when a representative ot the United Notions callzd to ask
if she would participate in 5 women's Leadership group thor vias studying the issue af trafficking.
“1 Sac. L can ome lk about i, becouse 1 dan know any hing shoul 41 Ford recalis. "Bur
went. and after twa hours, | knew why | was there. The way people traffic across boeders is
le 0 th why wt reget dels Aceotding to Fd The target ag 1 0.24 and su ts
Simla to undeling 1 knw how Fach tht raat ah Sad. wat the Felmg of re but
for the grace of God... The gitls who vame to us could have been those girls."
ts ezsbeL ou SGO3638 mest he-mleling gent who raffcked am derage-gils-for-sex
The Sex-Trafficking Model Scout
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Iefirey Epstein, the billionaire financier who the FBI believes molested aruund 40 underaged
airls. was assisted by a prominent modeling agent wad scout. Elere's what we know shout Jean
Cu: Brunel.
Jeffrey Epstein, you vill no doubt cocall, is the ine whe thaught tereying Bill Clinton an his
Private jet, lawyering up with superstar Alon Dershowitz, and making frequent $100,000
donations ta the Palm Beach Police Department would insulate him from prosceution for bis
various depravities
Say you're rot a famous ox celebrated os Romun Polunski and you want a sexily
assault... Rend mor:
‘Which included. forthe second: biiving 8 14-year-cld Yugloslavian named Notaliu Marcinkeva
from her parents in order t keep Macciakosa as his "sex slave”. paying a retinue of women to
awl Palm Beach for teenagers eroncanically desperate enough to sgree to give Epstein
“massages” thal often led tn sexual contact; receiving rwo 12-year-old French girls os a "binbiay
presen": and htricnding Michzel Wolf]:
Butas Conchita Small wrote at The Daily Bens:
Porhaps most distucbinz, i terns of pussible sex trafficking. vs Cpt’ relationship with Jean
Luc Brunch, wisn al the MC2 madeling agency. According a complaint fled in the U.S.
District Court for the Southern District of Florida, an alleged victin 31d drat Epstein, [assistant
an girlfricnd Ghislaine] Maxwell, Brunel. [house manager Alfredo] Rodriguez. and Morcinkova
“deliberately engaged in a pater of racketeacing that involved luring minor children through
MC2. mostly girls under the age of 17. to engage in sexual play for nioncy.
Tie FB] investigated Bpstein, snd identified wround 4 mderaged victims. Samoft reports that
the FB] is lso investigating MC2 and Brunel for possibly engaging in child sex trafticking,
Sine pleading uly 0 reduced chargss of soliciting sex with a minor and serving 13 months af
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patetime jail. Epstein hus become the fous uf mmenus civil lawsics from his vietms. He has
su far selled u deren
‘hes sane civil complaints allege that seune ick from South Americe, Europe. and the farmer
Saviet republics, fev of whom spoke English, were recruited for Epos sexust pleasure,
According to a former bookkesper, a number of the girls worked for MC2, the modeling ageacy
owned by Jean Luc Bruncl, 3 longtine acquaintance and frequent zuest of Epstein.
Brunel, alung with numerous young mundels, was frequent passe on Epstein privat jo,
sccarding ly Tight manifests. The agency owner also allegedly received $1 million from Epscein
in 2005, when he founded MC2 with his partner, Jefirey Fuller: although Fullec and Bruael
denicd any such payment from the billionaire pervect in 2007, when rumors started swirling,
SanofY ax confirmation from a former bockkaeper at the sgency, Whether the moncy was &
secret investment in MC2, or & payment far Brunel's services as a procurer, is unknown, Brunel
abso visiied Cpstcin in jail
0 who Js Jean Lut Brunet? Although he did ail respond w our interview request, we spake ia 3
number of people whi have svorked with his agency, While MC? isn' considered a major
industry pleyer, it in's exactly bortom-shelf, ther: MC2 in New York most eceatly luoched
the carer of Latvian editorial star Ginta Lapin (Beunel "isussend” Lupine via un MCD
scouting competition For vous lees) and currently represents Fojaue Chins Eivergin Tia Dan.
Worldwide, MC2 represen such stars as Sessile Lome. in Miami, and top models Candace
Swanepoel, Maric 1 ynchuk. Natalia Chabanenko, and Elisa Sedntoui in Tel Aviv.
Brune] isnt involved with the business on a day-to-day basis. although he owns un BS% stoke in
MC. stead. "Right now he doss scouting or [the] agency and takes care of the international
relations sith other ugencies.” sports one source. Scouts scout the world foc un-sgentcd
wzenaged girls who could make it as models; the wok lagsly unsupeevised and ce generally
paid 3 headhunting fee for every gir an agency sigs. Even shen offinted wilh an agency. 25
Brunel obviousiy is witk MC2, sceuts operate mus independently and with lik oversight —
even relative (© the almost wally unregulated modeling iedustry ise. “He travels a ot," says
unother person wha has warked with Brunel. {The company blog refers to Bruncl as 0 "secutin
tum," ond MC? is ily wellknown forthe strength of Is international scouting)
Models we spoke tu report mstly positive experiences with Bruns! — one praised his sense of
humor and said he is “lovely 10 al of his models,” nd another described hirm as highls
intelligent and cultured, adding. "he knows & lat about the opera und he paints” — although it
should be noted that none of the models whom we spoke to had heen sold of cher his
connections with Epstein. or his past.
And what a past it is, Theve accounts from Miche! Gross’ 1995 hnok Model describe Brunel's
activiias in Pais from the lata 19705 onwards, when hc warked for, and eventually owned, the
madeling agency Karins, now known as Karin Paris:
"Jean-Luc is considered a danger,” says Jésoime Bonmousicr. "Owning Karin vas a dieam fora
playboy. His problem is that he knows exactly what gick in trouble are louking or. He's ubways
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heen um the edge of the systema. John Casablancas gets wilh girls he healthy way. Girls would be
with him i he wes the butcher. Theyre with Jean-Luz because b's the boss. Josn-Lue likes
Gags and silent rage. I excites him."
“1 really despise Jean-Luc 0s a human heing for the way he's cheapened the business,” says John
Casablanca. “There is no juscice. This is 1 8uy who shauld be behind bars. Thiers was a lle
uroup. Juun-Luc, Patrick Gilles, and Vacsano... They were very well-known in Paris for ruuming.
the clubs. They would invite gies and put drugs in their drinks. Everybody knen they vere
eres.
should be noted that aside from beiog a professional rival, Casablaneas, the founder of the
agency Flite, was eventually drubben aut of the industry for his ow inodelizing, How pervy do
you have (© be tie John Casublancas to call you a perv?
Pervy enough to drug and rape Dinners teenagers. accarding 10 60 Mimaes wid Diane Sawyer,
‘wha investigazed Brunel in 1988. The program interviewed nearly two doen models who said
they had beso sexually wssaulked hy Brunel andor by his fellow. agent, Claude Hades. Even at
hat tine, Brunel hud 1 reputation vs a man one could 0 to procure a *date” with a young
model, CBS spoke 1 five madels who said Chet Brunel andlor his fricnds had drugged und raped
ther. Suid producer Craig Pyes, "Hundreds of girls were nor only harassed. bil molested."
‘When Gross intecviewed Brunel, his Js vat he had 10 say foe himself.
“You get lid tonight with a rol, is thi a crime? | done understand why people go into your
personal life, what you lo yours” snd tn yourself and they don't lock at things that are really
imponai”
Sincz then, Brunel as been invalved with a suecession of agencies in New York and Paris.
Alibough the G0 Ainules scandal exentially lod Eileen Font w stop working with him. he
continued his invalsement ih Karis, Ln 1968, when pawerhause agency Next opened its
ours, Brunel Ink an ownership stake. {le alsa “disce:vered” Christy Turliogton when she was
14. MC? i only his atest venture. Decause on criminal charges were ever filed hy any of his
accusers. and because the industey hs a short memory — must models working today wecen't
even born when Sussyer and Pycs started looking into Brunel's aeiviics — Bruel has been (ree
10 continue as he pleascs. A Fisach citizen, he even avrided testifying in his friend Fpstcin's
ial,
And 50 Brunel is sill eriss-crossing the alobe, trawling for $110" 13-year-0lds frum Fasten
Europe und (the whiter pants nf) Souch America. And apparcatly taking the occasions! ride with
them an Fpsweis private jet s there any better acgunent for the regulation of the modcling
industry?
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Jeffrey Epstein’s Level 3 sex offender status
upheld by NY appeals court
By Dareh Gregorian
November 18, 2001 | 5:Mam
Multiillionaire ere Jaffrey Epstein may noc consider his Florida conviction for solicitiog a
wninor a ig de, put New York dos.
A star appeals cours yeserday upheld the inanciers satus us a Level 3 sx offdet —
meaning he’s considersd “a threat to public safety” and a “high risk” to otfeud again.
Epstein, 58. did 13 months in @ Florida jel for soliciting s minor ts perform a ses sf on him
during a nasge
Although he was never indiced or convicted for biriag any other underage Girls. the state.
Appellate Division found thers was “clear and convincing evidence’ he had indeed done so.
making the Level 3 designacion appropriate.
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By PageSix.coin Stall - October 6, 2007 | :00um
THE. cnwners of M2 models arc denying industry sgcculation that massage maven Jeffrey
Epstein is a scccet finencial bickee of the agency being run by scandel-scarred Jean-Luc
Brunel, who was once accused of taking sdvantege of underage models.
Epstein, who this week agreed to plead guilty to soliciting underage prostices a his Florida
mansion ia deal that will send him t prisim foc shout 18 months, reportedly uve “millions” to
start MC2, which opened in October 2005 with offices in New York, Miami and Tel Aviv. One
af the girls Epstein, 53, was accused of soliciting massages from was described in court
documents as being just 14,
“E equals MC squared... get it. Fike the equation’ F. cquals Epstein. He just thinks overyone is
tw dumb to figars it cut.” ssid a mode) industry insider. “He's 5 desperate ald man that
fantasizes and takes advantage of young girls.”
The trouble doeso't stop there.
Karin Models foundec Brunel. who's currently a pistner in MC2. deaied allegations in 1997
60 Minuies” seinen that he look wana oT young models who were high un drugs. Brunel
abu reportedly lef his Teump Tower digs in 1990 after complaints of night carusing, which he
also denied
Disgraced foemer Elite models exe Gerald Marie is sii involved with MC2. says our source.
Marie was accused of having sex with underage models in a 1999 DBC documentary where he
was lined saying; he bpd 10 seduce contestants in 8 modeling contest in which the average age
a participants was |£. He also dated Lind Evangelista when she was a teen.
“He's also involved io the agency.” said the Source, “Gerald and Jean-Lu like the same things,
“They hang oul because they have $oung girls in common. ike tsa gays who enji the same.
MC2 president Jeffrey Fuller confirmed Brune] wss a partner in the company. but denied any
viorking lationship with either Epstein or Marie,
“We have no relationship business-iwise with Gerald Musie. Jeftrey Epstein bax no ownership or
involvement in Gur company und never fs. Jeun-1.uc Brunel and | an: the only two partners and
anes af MC2 Model Management.” Fuller said.
Epsteic’s rep snid he was not involved in the agency, “He has no business relationship with
hem.” said Howard Rubenstein.
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Lawsuit documents link Jeffrey Epstein to
modeling agency owner Jean Luc Brunel
8 Mishole Derean
Daly News Staff Weir
New court filings in a civil case filed by billionaice sex offender Jofftey Epstein link Epstein and
Jean Luc Brunel. owner of modeling agency MC2.
The documents say MC2 employees told attorney Brad Edwards (hat Epstein's vundus u1 301 E.
6618 Sin New York City were owl 0 hous: young model.
Edwards, who has sucd Epsicin on behalf of several women claiming 0 be victims af sex abuse
by Epstein. was wkd MC2 brought underage girls in frum all over the world, promising them
madeling walract.
“Epstein and Brunel would then obsain o visa for these girls, then would charge the uaderage
ails rent. he documents sa
“Through the investigation of his lawsuits against Epsicin, Edwards learned Brunel “runs the
‘modeling agency MC2, a company foc which Epstein pruvides financial suppor.” the documents
They alse allege Epstein ried to thwart Edwards from taking depositions of Brunel, Epstein's
companion Guislaine Maxwell. and other high-profile names such as President Bill Clinton.
Details are listed in more than 62 pages fited by atiorney Jack Scarala on behall of Edwards in
he lawsuit Epstein led epanst Edwards. Edwards represents fur of Epstein’ inor victims.
ee of whan have sell their uses with Epstein under confident agrees.
Eprein ariomeys Christopher Knight and Joseph Ackerman declined 0 comment Fiday oa the
court filings.
‘Edwards deposed Brunel, but his atcorny delayed it and then said he was back in Frauce with no
plans to retura. But according to the couet popecs, Brume] was stuying with Epstein in Palm
Beach during thut period.
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“The court filings deserihe Brunel as one of Epstein’s clasest pals
Regarding Maxwell, the documents refer to sworn iestimony by Epstein’s fame louse
manager, Alfredo Rodriguez. explaining how Maxswell ok potas of girls ithaul the girls
knowledge, "kept the mages on he computer knew tho names of the underage girls amd thei
Tespective phone numbers and ether underage victims.”
Accarding i the documents; Maxwell allegedly lid sbout her moder being il and having tw fy
hack 10 England onc day before & scheduled deposition in Edvard’ case against Fpsicin,
Despite tat sssestion, Mawel] was ceplured in a hata for OK magazine. sending the wedding
of Chelsea Clinton two days later,
Epstein has sctled more than two dozen lawsuits and clims agains him by young women who
say they were lured to his EJ Brillo Wey mansion as teens to give him sexually charged massages
andor sex in exchange for money. The terms of all settlements sec confldcatial.
Rodriguez took a journal {rom Epstein’ computer that listed the umes of hi nnderage victims
frum around the country amd the world. Calling it the “Holy Gril,” Rodrigue tic to sell ihe
Journal for $50.00 10 vivtims" attorneys. He pleaded guilty 19 obsiuerion of justice and is
serving 14 months in federal prison.
Epstein, 57, served [3 months of an |8-month state sentence, }ic ended his one-year probation in
July en Stats charges of soliciting prostiwtion and soliciting a minor for prostitution.
According to flight logs from Epaein's private planes. Clintun lew several times on Fptein's
places, many tires with Muxwvell, Palm Beach resident Sarsh Kellen and Adriana Mucinska —
“ul] employees andor cu-<omspirators of Fstcin's,” according 10 the court papers
Tl documents show that Clinton few with Bpsiein, “then suddenly stopped — raising the
suspicion that Ge: friendship ubruply ended ..
“Epstein’s personal phone directory from his computer contains e-mail addresses for Clinton
along with 2) phone numbers for him ... and what appears ta be Clinton's personal numbers.” the
cout papers say.
Allcgacions in dhe docunents say Epstein threatened victims — including Edwards’ client Jane
Doe despite no-contact orders in effect
Epstein had Dac tiled by a private investigator as her tial date neared, the court filings say. One
tite. Doe was 50 frightened that she fled her home in the company of a teticed police allices aud
was isken 10 a hiding place. according to the cour papers.
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That Gorgeous Underage Model May Be A
Slave: Regulation For Agencies To Stop Child
Sex Trafficking
First came the knowledse that saves still existed and were present in larger numbers than ever
before. Then she reaitzaion that a human being ould be purchased wikin « few hors of my:
nome for undo STUD. Now only foe miles wes. Tn th followers ers T've heen learning. the
tied fora, places snd pes of eves. The fit heeps lngrhemgt at with acl new form:
Go me. Heim about, t ks owe, on mms 1
Siqrery
Debt Bondage
Sexual Slavary
Child Brides.
Forced Labor
Chita Sordiers
Adaption Traflickma.
ron Traficing
Trafiched Ailes
Arnon a ve une {should he seus coming:
Thave very yoieng, foreign madals you see” Some of them wer: irafficked by mudel seouts who
itarally trawled thiaugh some of ihe most destitute ard vulnerable people om earth for them, Tike
same methods as other predatory traffickers: Go tn politically or economically unstable areas;
focate 5'11" beautiful young girls: buy them. import them, vwn thems, use them.
Horrible irony to have tmages thal portray ws to the world possibly be of sires.
It's hard to think of an area of owr societs thai doesn't adiire seeing it's most vented menibers
with model an their aris. While tis observaiion does nol imply that those peaple were
trafficked, imine hans simple that makes i to Gpproach child or its fumils anywhere in the
world anc aff the this vet, for absolute conrol
A te elckens uve ry spl und magazine phon is videcs on
Fm not shocked at traffickers ustmg this method uf promises to lure nasuspecting girls into.
slavery. I've seen ii, read about it, studied it. 1'm in shock that it flourishes in the wost Wsibis.
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laring sporiight of on cultave, the part that warhlus and presents vu current idea of heaty in
alt everything we touch,
These victims are on dhe mast prominent slave block ever. emulated by our children coveted by:
our culoure-makers aud our 306iesy, an standin in the brighist nba spoulight in the
world. plain sight, reported om in nunierous sories for decades and yes only escalating in
usage until they ve become the gulden mean.
We can quiealy ignore ths anes resold daly it our 10h. sho made ener clothes, chocolate,
housewaras, provided the gold un our fingers and necks, elecwronics in our hands, labor in oe
Fields. Here. finally, ave staves we fantasize about heing, emulating, allow ot society to be
shaped by, conviden trophies,
What wid this say lout us if we don’ drasticaily change it? All of
Katte Prd sealked avy. on an empiye the first ime she learned about icvery. she s working
40 change with this ing she recognized (o be permeating the indsiry, That it Courage.
Regulating Modeling Agencies to Help Prevent Child Sex Trafficking
Posted: 0241042612 8.99 pnt
10.2010, ezohel. an online site. plished “The Sex Teaffieking Mode! Scout” warning about the
dangers of deregulated modeing agencies in the LS.
Given the grusing number of modeling agencies that transport udecoge teenagers frum Forcien
countries inka the United States and the growing sex trade of undecuge vies in the (1S. shy dots
this industry remain deregulated?
Since the advent of this husiness. modeling agencies have had fice reign to scoul teenagers from
every state in the country 55 welh a5 Cvery nation in the world. Many uf these teenage girs come.
from ceonomically disadvantaged families and see uifered none ta very limived protection while
waveling and working os “model.”
Jezshel pared that Joan Lue Brel. one of the cast of characters involved in the ongoing.
Jeffeey Epstein (3 level I registered sex offendes). cight-ysar-long case. has been working Jor
over two decades with a succession of sgencics in Now Yok and Pacis, According to media
reports. Diane Sawyer produced a segue for CBS's 6 Minutes fealuring » sex scandal that
eventually led Kleen Ford founder of renawned Ford mudeling agency) to stop warkig with
Brunel.
Brunel's latest vennure is the modeling agency MC2 based in South Beach, Fla. with satellite
affices in New York and Tel Aviv. Since his agency is deregulated and “no eriminal charges
Bove bec fikd by any of his accusers” — although many have tried to seeve him including
Taviyers representing psiein’s viedms, Brunel continues (0 hide behind his French citizenship is
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prevent depositions. “Trawling for 511 undenge teenagers uy work for his agency, C2. ar
anyone else who requests. Brunel is free stout for very. young girls without limitations.” Given
bis citizenship he also successfully wvoided deposition in Epscin’s sex rolated cases.
Like 50 axany cher reportecs whe have ried to cepurt his side af the story when Jezebel
contacted Brunel. “he did nal respand to qu interview request.” According fo Jezebel:
i 3poke 10 & number of people who worked with his agency and while MC2 isn't considered 3
major industry player, it isn't exactly bottom-shelf. either... Brunel isn't involusd with the
business on a day-to-day basis, although he owns an 85 percent stake fn MC2. Instead. he does
scouting for the wgency and takes care of the imernaional rclations with ofr agencies, reports
ane source. Sous sco she world far unrepresented tesnage irls wha could make it us models.
They work largely unsupervised and are genzrally paid u headhunting fee fur every irl an
agency signs. Even when affiliated with un agency. as Brunel obviously is with MC2, scouts
operate masily independently und with lite oversight. The company blog refers fo Brunel as a
“scqnutimg tsunami and MCZ i fairly well known for the strength of ts international scouiog;
Model, Michael Goss’s 1995 book. describes Brunel's activities in Paris from the late 19705
nad, when be worked for, snd evenmually owned, the modeling sgency Karin, “Jean-Luc is
considered a danger.” says Jéréme Bonnouvtier, “Owning Karin was & dream lou playbuy. His
problem is that he knows exactly what els in trouble are locking for. He's ahwuys been om the
edge of the system.”
John Casablancas, founder of Elite modeling agency said:
1 really despise Jeun-Luc us u human being for the way he's sheapened the businsss. here is no
justice. This i a guy wh should he behind bars. hoe was a ite group, Jean-Luc, Patrick
Gilles, and Varsano. They were very well known in Paris for marking the clubs, They would
invite girls and pu drugs in their drinks. Everybody knew they were creeps.” Cusabluncas was a.
professional ival who was pushed oul of bis agency for questionable cancers.
Katic Ford human trafficking abolicionist and Eileen Ford's daughter, tlked uw the ll Street
Journalagazine, In tha: stor “A Model Trade Union.” Purd describes herself ss a “roving.
aunbassador” to help sop human trfTicking, Ford sald her stake in the family business in 2007 to
the peivete equity im Stans Tower Equity. “tn her new life a5 a nearly ful ime. wgald, roving
amhassador for the cause her job is an outgrowth of hee formes work, rather than u repudiation of
it. or an stoncment,
Ter interest in human trficking began when a repuesentative of the United Nations called 1s ask
if she would participate in & women's leadecship cup thal was studying the sue of tnficking.
“15aid, | can’t corn talk about it, because | don't knuny wnything about it" Ford recalls. “Bus |
went, and after wo hours. 1 knew why | was there, The way people traffic across borders is
prac to the way we recruit models, According 10 Focd “the target age is 14. 24, and sa i's
similarto modelitig™ 1 Knew how 10 reach that market she said. “It was the feeling of: There but
For Ure grace of God... The gicks who cum to us could hve been those girls”
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‘hupifslavergtolay org/thut-gorgeons-indatage- ad-adel-may-be-trafficked-and-owned-
regulstion-for-agenciessto-stop-child-sex-trafficking/
That Gorgeous Underage Model May Be A
Slave: Regulation For Agencies To Stop Child
Sex Trafficking
Furst cume the knowledge tha slaves sill existed und were present in larger monhers than ever
before. Then the realization that a human being could be rarchased within a few hours af my
home for under SHO. Now only a five miles away. Tn the following years I've been leartitng; the
myriad forms. places and tpes of slavery The lisi keeps lengthening ane! with vach new: form
(to me). [learn about, it knocks me down, one more time.
Slavery
Debt ome
Seva Savery
Child Brides
Forced Labir
Child Soldiers
Adoption Trafficking
Organ Trafficking
Trice Athees
And now a new one I should have seen coming.
Those very pours, freindly see? Some of ther eos ticked model scours who
tterally trensled thrush some of the muss: destrsite ard vulnerable people on earth far the. The
same method a ber prediony affickers Go t potato economical usable areas,
incate 3°11 boautifiul orung tris: Guy therm, import them, own thems, see them.
Horrible rom 0 hve mags hi portray 1s 10 the world psi be of ies,
44's hard 10 think of an area of wr society that doeve’t admire seeing it's niost vounted members
with a model on their arm. While this observation does not imply tha those peuple were
trafiicked, imagine how simple that owes it to approach a child or it's family anywhers in the
world and offer then this in return fir absainte control
Al the traffickers have ro do Is pull out a magazine or phone with videos on it.
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Tor not shocked at traffickers using this method of promises to fure unvuspeciing girls into
slavery, {'ve seen if read about it studied it. I'm in shack that flovrishes in the most visible,
glaring spoligh of our culture, the part that orhips and proses ovr curent idea of baa in
almost everything we touch,
These victims ure on the mos! prominent siave block ever, emuiated hy aur children, coveted by
our culture-makers and our society, and standing in the brightesy global sporlight in the
world In plain sight, reported on i imerous stories for decades tr ye! only escalating in
usage iow they've became the golden mere
We can quietly ignore dhe oes rasald dit im our town, ho made our clothes, choclate.
housewares, provided the 201d on ow fingers and necks, electionics in on hands, labor in ove
fields. Here. finally. are siaves we fantasize about being, enrulafing, lie our society to be
shaped by, consider rophies
hat will this say about us if we don't drastically change it? Al of it
Katie Ford walked vay from an empire the frst time she learned abort stavers. she's working
to charge with ihis thing she recognized to fe permeating the industry. That is courage.
Regulating Modeling Agencies to Help Prevent Child Sex Trafficking
Conch Sarnoff.
Posted: 02102012 8:49 pm
[n3050, Jezebel, an online site, published “The Sex Trafficking Model Scout” warming about the
dungers of deregulated modeling agencies in the U.S.
Given the prowing aumber of modeling agencies that transport underage teenagers from foreign
ounces inlo the United States and the growing sex rade of underage girls in the U.S, why does
this industey romain deregulated?
Since the advent of this business. modeling wigencies have bud fr eign ws scout wcnagers fram
every state in the country es well as every nation in the world. Many of these reznage rls come
from economically disadvantaged families and ave offered none to very limited protection while
waving and working as “niodcls.”
Tezebel reparted that Jean Tue Brunet one of the east of characters involved in the ongoing
Jeffrey Epsiein (a lovel 3 mgistored scx offender). eighl-year-long case. has been working for
over two decades with a succession of agencies in New York ond Pacis. Acearding to media
eeports, Diane Suwer produced a segment for CBS's 60 Minutes featuring a sex scandal tha
eventually led Eiloen Ford tfoundsr of renowned Ford modeling agency) 10 stop working with
Brunel.
Brunel s latest venture is the morling agency MC2 based in South Beach. Fla with satelice
oiMces in New York and Tel Aviv. Since hs agency is deregulated and “no criminal chores
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ave been filed by any uf His wccusens” — olhough many have tried to serve him inchiding
Towyers representing Fpsicia’s vietims. Sruncl continues to hide behind his French citizeaship to
prevent depositions. “Trawling for 5°11” underage teenagers to work for bis agency, MC2. or
anyone else who requests, Brunel is free t scout for very young girls without limitations.” Given
his citizenship he also succassfully avoided deposition in Cpstein's sex related cases.
Like 50 many other ceportets who have ied to report bis side of the story when Jezebel
contacted Brunel, “he did not respond to our interview request” Ascording tw Jezebel:
we spake to & number nf people who worked with his agency and while MC fsn't considered a
maja industey player, it Jsn't exactly botrom-shelf either... Brun isn't involved with the
business on a day-to-day basis. although he owns an 85 percent stake in MC2. ostoad. he does
scouting fur the agency and takes care of the international relations with acher agencies. eports
ume suuree. Scaues scour the world for unrepresented ecnage girls who ould make it 15 models.
“They work largely unsupervised and are genaeally paid a headbunting fee for every git an
agency signs. Even when affliated with an agency. as Bruel obviously is with MC2, scouts
operate mostly independently sud with litle cyersight. The company blo refers to Brunel as &
“scouting tsuaemi and MC? is fuicly well known for the strength of is international scouting.
Model, Michsl Gross’s 1995 bok, desceibes Brunel's activites in Paris from the ute 19705
nviocds. when he worked for. sad eventually owned, the modeling ogency Karin, *Tean-T.uc is
considered a danger." says Tértme Bonnawvrier, “Owning Karin was a decsm for a playboy. His
problem is that he knows exseily what girls in imuble arc fonking for. He's always been on the
cdg: af the system.”
Jobin Caseblanuas. founder of Cite modeling agency suid:
really despise Jean-Luc as a hunian being for dre way he's cheapened the business. There is no
justice. This i 8 guy who sheuld be behind burs. Thece was u ile grou. Jean-Luc, Patrick
Gilles, and Vaesano. They were very well known in Paris for roaming the clubs. They wold
invite girls and pic drugs in their drinks, Everybody knew they wers creeps.” Casabloacas was a
professional rival who was pushed out of his agency foc questionable concerns.
Katie Prd human trafficking abolitionist and Eileen Fords drugher. tiked to the Ja Street
Journalmagrzine. In that story “A Model Trade Union.” Ford desceibes herself as a “coving
ambassador” 9 kelp 36p human trollickiog, Ford sald her stake in the family business in 2007 to
the privete equity firm Stane Tower Tiquity. “In her neve Iie as u nearly full-time, unpad, raving
ambassador for the cause her job isan outgrowth of het Former work. sath tian a repudiation of
it or an sorcment.
Ther interest in human trafficking begun when a representative of the United Nations ealled 10 ask
f'she wuld participate in a women's leadership group that was studying the issue of tefficking.
+1 said, “F can't come talk about it, because | don't know anything about tt Ford recalls, “But |
went. and after two hours, | knew why Twas there. The way people traffic accnss bordsrs is
paculel 10 the way we recruit models, According 10 Ford "the target age is 14.0 24, and so i's
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similar to modeling.” Lknesy how 10 rach that masket” she said. “It wa the feeling of; There but
forthe grace of God... The gies who came ( us could have been those girls."
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epstein-doesnt-want-to-be-branded-as-a-sex-offender-for-
lifc-and-no-hes-not-a-modeling-agency-secret-sugar-daddy-
or-so-its-owners-say/
Jellrey Epsicin deesn’{ wan( {o be branded as a “sex
oltender” for life. and ng. he’s not a modeling agency secret
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Jeffrey Epstein, the billionaire money manager who's agrezd t plead guilty ta soliciting
waderaged hookers and ga away for 18 mouths, does’ want o be branded a "sex offender” for
Tie. Page Si. says bis luseyers are Uhinkimg about asking prosecutoes drop the requirement
finm is plea agreement:
To a eter draflc. but nut sent, 0 U.S.
Attorney Alexander Costa and ahiained by Page Six, Epstein’s fawyer, Gerald
Lefeourt, writes, "Doing 50 will have a profound impact (on Epstein] both
iimediately and forever alter. Not only will he be restricted 0 a wholly
nupproprinte pesal fecility, but he will be required for the rest of his life
10 account for his whersabouts,"
Meanwhile. aver the weekend Page Six suid that owners of MG2 modeling. run by Jean-Luc
Prune] — whi's alsa been acew-ed of favoring imdcraged madels in the past — claim that
Epstein is not the. scerce deep pockets behind dhe firm, ro matter what others say speculnes.
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Epstein... .epomedly gave
“millions” (o start MC2, which opened in Octobe 2005 with offices in
New York, Miami and Tel Aviv. One of the girls Epstein, 54, was accused of
soliciting massages from was described in court documents 0s being just 3.
“E equals MC squiced.... get,
Bike the equation? E equals Bpsicin. He just thinks cyeryone is too dumb to
figure t ous” said a model industey insider, “He's a desperate old
man that fantosizes and takes advantage of young girls.”
“Jeffrey Epstein has an ownership or invalvement in our company and never has. Jean-Luc
Brunel and Lars the only two parmers aad ownare Of MC2 Model Mansgeancac.” Wetfiey) Fuller
aid, [MC President]
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hatp:ww washingtonpost.com/newsvolckii-conspiracy/wp/20 1404/2 lieteventh-circuit-rules-
Ta deOveryamOVe-Sorwart-onms-crime vim cight-achcast!
Ihe Volokh Conspiracy
Eleventh Circuit rules that discovery can
move forward on my Crime Victims’ Rights
Act case
By Paul Cunsell April 21
On Friday le 11d) Cirenit nue tt discovery can move fone in on importa, Crime
Victims® Rights Act case thal my co-vounsel, Brad Edwards, and T sre pursuiny, The nurrow
issu befor the vourl was whether prosecutors and defense atiumeys could assert some sort af
“privilege” to prevent crime victims from reviewing the comcspandence that lead tg a plea
baegain. More broadly, the ruling means that the victims will have a chance to refum to the.
disieict court and seek to invalidate a plea agreement that (we alleged) was consummated in
olution of their ight. 1 bape that the case wil imately set an mporlant precedent that
federal prosscutons can’t keep victims in she dark abou the plea diab that they reach.
Lier ae the importa Fics. taken lor the 11h Cicuit's opinion: Th case case fn 2006, the
FBI began investigating allegations that wealthy investor Jefivey Epstein had sexuclly sbused
dorens ond dozens of minor ils. The 11.5. Aomes's Offic fo the Southern Disic of Florica
acospted Fpstein’s case for prosceution. and the FBI issved victim notification leness to my wo
clicats, mines Jane Doc No. 1 and Jane Doe No. 2, in June and August 2007. Extensive plea
negotiations ensued between the prosecutors and Epstein. On Sept. 24, 2007. the prosecutors
entered into 4 non-prasccution ugreement with Epstein in which they agresd not to file any
Tera ch: saint Fp m exchangs for is gui pic 0 miner Florida offenses (c¢..
solicitation of prostintion). Not only did the prosecutors negleet ta confer with the victims
before they entered into the agreament with Epstein, they also concealed its existence for at least
ine months. Fur example. the prosecurs Sent post. rset else pth vithms reporing
that the "case is currently under investigation” and explaining that *[cJhis can be a lengthy
ptocess and se reies your canned piece hile we conduct a iorough nvesdgation.
On June 27, 200K, the prosecutors informs my eo-zounsel. Hr Fors, ts Epstein planned
0 plead guilty to the Florida charges thice days later. But the prosecutors failed to disclose that
Epstein’s ples (0 those state charges arose from his federal non-prosecution agreement and that
thie pleas would bur a federal prosecution. As u result. the victims did nil attend the state court
proceedings.
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On July 7. 2008. Edwards and 1 tiled a periion alleging that Jane Doz No, 1 was a victim of
federal sex erimss committed by Epstein and that the United States had wrongfully excluded het
from plea negotiations. We also alleged that the fedsral prosecutors had violated her rizats under
the Cme Victim” Rights Act (CYRA) — specifically het tights to confer with the govemmznt
a be treated will Faimess, 10 receive timely nolice of relevant coust proscedings, and to receive
information ubuut restiution. The United States responded by claiming that i used its “best
offorts™ to comply with the rights affords to victims under the CVRA. but that the act id net
apply to pre-indictmen: negotiations with potential federal defundnts.
Aer Jane Dac No. 2 joined the initial petition. the district court (Mar. J) found that seth
women quified as "rine victinis ~ under the C-VKA. The disteict cour [ate sejevted the
‘eon crument’s acgunon that the act only applies afer the filing of a federal criminal
indictment. (I've writer 6 law reviesw article about the Jssue of how early crime victiene” rights
tach im th eeimies! process. which can be downloaded bere )
Among other relief, we sought rescission of the non-prosccurion agreeient os a remedy for the
violation of the viet” right. To make the case for such a emedy, we moved for discovers of
the camesondense between the U.S, and Epstein’s attorays during the plce nsgotiadons.
Fipsiin's altomeys intervened, arguing that Federal Rule of Bvitience 410 acd Fedérs] Rute of
Criminal Procediie 1 create a privilege for plea negnliacians, haring release of the
correspondence. [hey also argcd that the court should find th the evsterials ere prasected
under the work product doctrine or, altematively, should be protoesod ndsr a nsw “comman-
Taw privilege lor plea negotiations.”
“The district court fist nals tha cs sion o€the ples gees nent was a possible remedy. under
the acl. The court then ruled that we were enitled to taview the cortespondence. rejecting all of
Epstein’s arguments.
On Friday, the 11th Cireuir affine the disrict emits ruling that ws could re ew the ple
cusmspondence. Atpp. 18-22 of its published opinion. the court concluded that ther: was no
busis for cesiicting eotess 10 such corcespondence when crime victims have a lcgitimass need to
review it. The court rejected. for example, the wrk product argument because pled discussions
are not confidential;
Disclosure of work-product materials an adversary waives the work-product privilese. See
6.8. dn re Chrysler Motors Comp Overnight Fvaluation Program Lig. 360 F.2d 844, B46 (8th
Cir. 1988): in re Dow, 662 F.2d 1073, 1081-82 {41h Cir. 1981), Even if it shared the commen
goal af ceaching u quick selllement. the United States vies undoubtedly adverse to Epsteia during
its investigation of him for federal affenses, wad the inlervenors” disclosure of their work progust
waived any claim of privilege. .
The court also declined to recagnize a new privilege for plea bacguining, finding the relationship
between prosceutors and defense attorneys dic nat ced special protection
Asa lastditch effort, the intervensrs contend that [iI wore is needed in addition to the plain
fanguage of Rule 410 to preclude disclosure o the eorespondnce o plains, it can be found
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Jn the wunjunction of Rule 410, the work-prduce privilege, and the Sixth Amendment right to
the effective wsstance of counscl i the plea bargaining process,” but this novel argument ails
100. As explained shave, Rule 411 docs not crea a privilege and the intervenors waived any
work-product privilege. The intervenocs concede 100 that the right counsel under the Sixth
Amendment had not vet attached hea the correspondence was exchanged. Lumley v. City of
Dade Clty, Fi, 327 F.3d 1136, 1195 (1 th Cir, 2003) {1 Jhe Sixth Amesdmers right to
sounsel ordinarily does not aise ntl hee is a formal commitinen: by the government ©
prosecute.” sul 4 a “formal charge. prelioinary hearing, indicoment, information, or
acraigranenc.”). The “conjunctive” power of thres false claims of privilege dues nul resus the
vorrespundence from discloses...
The Supreme Court has identified several considerations relevant 10 whether a court should
cecugnice an evideotiary privilege—the needs of the public, whether the prisilege is rated in the
Smpecative for confidence und trust, the evidentiary benefit of the denial of the privilege, and any
‘consensus amang the ates, Jagee v. Redmond. ST§ US. 1. 10-15 {1996)—but none of these.
considerations weighs in favo of recognizing a new privilege to prevent discovery of tre plea
negations. Akhough plea negotiations are vita (0 the functioning of the criminal justice
system, & prosecutor and tact of a ceiminal investigation do not enjoy & relationship of
confidence and trust whe they negotiate. Their adversarial relationship. unlike the confidential
relationship of a doctor and patient or aorney and click, waeanis ne privilege beyond he tecins
oF Rule #10. See Jaffee, 518 U.S, at 10. But ie victims would enjoy an evidealiary benefit from
the disclosure of plea negotiations to prove whether the United Slates vialated their rights under
the Act,
Mosing forward, his case raises the important issue of what kinds of remedies ice available for
violations of the Criene Victims® Riz Atl. Ou complaint legs that, presided by Epstein, the
federal prosecutor deliberately concealed the sweetheart plea deal they had reached with him to
avoid public uriticism of the deal. | am hapeful that in future district court proceedings, we will
besble ta prove that slenr viclation of she CVRA and then obtain dhe remedy of invaiidating the
illegally-negotisted pica deal.
Paul G. Cae t2aches criminal law, criminal procedure, and crime victims’ nghts at the $.1.
Quinney Collzge of Law at the Universiy of Utah. Hefor: coming 1o Utah. he was President of
he Stanford Las Review, a law clack for thei-Judge Antonia Scalia oa the D.C. Circuit and or
Chief Justice Warten Burger of ihe Supreme Court, us Associate Deputy Attirney Genera with
the U.S. Justice Department (1986-88), and an Assistant U.S. Attomey for the Fase Disrict of
Virginia (198% a 1991). Cassell Joined the faculty asthe University of Utah College of Lave in
1992, where he taught full ime until he was swom i as a U.S. Disteict Court Jude for the.
District of Utah in 2002. Tn 2007, he resigned xis judgeship Lo return full time to the College of
Law. lo leach, write. and liGigstz on issues relating In crime viesims' rights and criminal justice
reform.
a
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~~ Original message ———
Subject:
Deac Jean Luc.
Hope that you slay fine
As per our conversation abeut placement of her with you in NYC and Miami. she said she fousd
some article in intesnel.. which changed hee position and she preferced 0 be placed with another
agency.
aun 50 s0eey, bua people believes in media moee thin in ws sometimes. what is sod!
Warmest regards
Jolanta Sadauskiene
awner
MODILINOS moat agency MODILINOS models.
Paracas 7-4, Kaumas Sv.Stepono 7, nics
(@WasST07I2E cal ATT069816103
Olanafimediizoncon: mlofymodinos com
ww modiinos com
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Cale: 711312014 10:48 Al (GMT~0200)
To. dean Lox: Brunel
Subject The situafion wih Liza Zazdaurih
Oar Jeantuc,
Unfortunately | need 16 ansouncs that Liza Zaasraunih refscisd Signing he contract wih MOZ United
‘Sates. nat sha intanded fo sign Ihe coniract, but ater on she came 8Ci08s that aici i lems aboul
you involved in egal activities wih young models. This information somehow changed het intentions
Completely. she s ready o be a model and consider contracts wilh ther agerckes, bul she has
sussitions INat you wil orcs har lo gal actites and she made the decision o (On put her sel 14 isk.
Lots kowp in zh. willbe happy work wit you 16 tims if we have another Tight made for you. Im
upset hat i didnt work ut wih Liza
Sincoraly,
Vialimic
Viadimir Yiidashic
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—-=—- Original message ———
Subleat: MC2
Dear Jean Liz,
I'm very liappy to hese you're caning to the agency wilh Vii so we can talk about us working
vith MC? again
{don't need 0 remind you that the sex waificking allegations have stopped us from working with *
your agency for dhe past 5-6 years but as Vinicius is uy frend, {will ey 10 ad a gil that
alreaty kos and trusts him tw plage with you.
‘Thank you very much for the lovely bag and we'll see each obec on fashion week.
Kisses,
Manuela
Infemational Rekons
Phone: 455 11 38184500
MEGA | De see smedear
Cell: +55 11 38668.0000
PARTNERS | megamsodelbrasiLeom.br
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Original Message-----
Organization: MC2 MM
Reply-To: <lomaine@me2mm com
<pink@me2mm. com>
Videagrapher--ichelle Stockman
N
>—w-Original Message
Fram: Michells STOCKMAN [maito:Miche le. Stockman af com)
>Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 11:03 AM
>To lorraine@me2mm.com
>Subect: Press Inquiry from AFP (Agence France Presse)
>Videographer--Michelle Stockman
>My name is Michelle Stockman and | am a video journalist for Agence France
>Presse, the French newswire. We produce 1.540 2 min. videos that ara
distributed internationally to broadcast clients in Europs and Asa, and
>intemet clients workhwide. In preparation for Fashion Week, my print
>colleague and 1 are interested in doing a piece an trends in casting
models
>of color. | was wondering if you could refer me to a model of calor and a
>casting director who can comment cn her experience.
>
>My deadline is next week, so | would fie to set something up for Monday
sor
>Tuesday. | can come (a you as | am a ane-person camera craw. When you
>have
>a moment, please let me know. Id be happy to discuss with you over the.
>phona ahead of time.
>Best regards,
>Michelle Stockman
>
>Michelle Stockman
747 Third Avenue, 35th Floor
>New York, NY 10017
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——— Orginal message —
Cole: 211202014 12:48 (CMT-05.00)
To. Jean Luc Brunel
Subject Soauiirg
Jan Lu,
How ae you?
Aes 50 many years scouieg for you and having a great ence of sgencias ll aroun the world who
enjoy to werk wit us, | wand o et you know thal we are on the way (@ lose evenyhing we oul and we
aie gona have big problem now.
Agencies, il war vo wit 1s Ut F410" ort WAN! hell GRUHITS Came 1.13, hecause nen
hey Google your name and the agency name the only ings they see 's “Sex Traficking ll
Its impossible to 39n # new l and f nothing i don 1 can el you the in 2 moths we we wil nt get
any new gels end dont see fw the agency wil work withow: new faces.
Alte agancies who know you con't have any problems wilh Yeu Siace hey al 0k] Me We Know jean
Luc for mare han 20 yoars anc all Base years we hat so many ils place wi im wo 7d beter
‘oxparionco than in any othe agoncios wha wero roprasantin tom as well and we nese bad any
problems whatsoever, fl our is had gfaal carers as a model when he represses thee
1 unaerstard those agencies bacaus fs hard for therm Lo al to parents and explain that fs nal the 1th
when i al over the internet.
ouneed la have ft stop and have the people write an affcialleter a say thal it's nat the uth.
1 will amp you peste of course but is really oad for us and the scouting
Best regards
Michac! Sanka
3104021028
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L 2 As part of your suployacst with MC Square
2 agen Vive in New York, Toy a tine?
3 B I'm snary, but I taks the Fifta,
4 © Have you ever heard any model of ¥: Square
Sw at the time of being a minoy, that means under
£ the age of eighieen, meds sn accusation that
7 Séan-Luc Butnel acted inapuropclile with hes?
a £ Fever, and that is scnething that I will
© not anawer. And T sald never because even whem
1: reoples come and ask me T will clays sey the trath
1 regarding that,
12 T know Mr. Rronel bor the foagest --
17 maybe wight years. Aad § always sald what 3 kw
14 © ever saw and | weve: knew thal be id aoythirg.
15 S55 1 know that. Ard that's the truth.
If Newer. T reve: heard anybody accusing Me. Bruce!
317 or complainieg about My. Brunel. Herhing
12 @ hat means -- Ast means at any time oi
15 model, no minor model come tn you and sald, you
23 keww, "Maritza, lech what just horpemed to me”, that,
21 "something had teppored to met.
22 A Mayhe e model came and told me, "Maritza,
23 lost wast happen 5 me. 1 don't have any money,” of
24 "1dcr't have a place ta liven. Or, "Lock, T didn’t
2 get my tieket”, ur whatuves.
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5 3 We yeu sak: Refers That yun never heard
5 angrhong thet wend fndicats that Jean Lac Zurmsl
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a 4 veah, Lomas wnat is the tzin, Mabey
2 complain tome. Nekoly Your Juection wac very
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BRAM Pren aricins iagarding the mos and aches wha vere bol
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Potitonec WC2 Modeh Mian, LLC
Beneficiary: Jean. Luc. Didier Menetfarie SRUNEL
Deor Si Madam,
Ine peesent teller ond ls enciouses ote suomiect if: support of the
gitechod O-1 peiiion of MC Models Mian. LLC, on banal of vi. Jeon Luc
Erol, hn pskion i based pon Mr. Samer standing os an “Aken of
Exracerinon: Abily in #41 Diection 06 Talen! Coorcinaiion * Kindly nofe hat
i. Bure! cummny huis O-1 slofs with ow organiiafon,
The Sou Foc exda and Miam Beoch in pricy have become a
mecca fof Ne tothion ard modu Indusiis. AS ecul, mony ol Ine agent
inlemotionol mocising ugancies such at Ford. Ee. ord MCZ hove opsied
ces in South Bedi and the oreo has became ane of he mas! porn! 11
{se modséing ¥custy In fact. Avani Boach hot become second only 10 Now.
York Ciy in lars of empioymac opparhuniios fe fasion mack br he ved
Slates. Atlachert 05 EXHBIT 1. pocss nd sever press and mado acres
‘SocumaInY he is of Scull Beach as cae i ine Unie Soles mais imran
copicer
199 aur company. MCZ floamer Korn Mocket). exabished an office.
tne hace of the atenc A Paco Disc! af Mom Baoch, “sou B80. nay
fly boceme one of the word's modcing capo and we or pgased 15 be 8
Pot of if Ou agency hat developed & Mghy daengushed epatascn i 1a.
modeing ricky We tpncciae in repraaniing numeious modes of
nleinalionol acclom rieviag dacoverad foces tach at Christy luatngton ang
oided dhe carmen of cwebriies wah oF Sharon Sone, Fileka Woven. MBG
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Javevh, say Hall and Rebieccs Romin, who cunently sang fhe ovcrc-
~anang ABC leiavtion sents Li Betiy, MC2 modes wi among the mos
1ought aftr ne incur. 3 svdonced by Maa caliber of hey Commerc red
€SIoal books. Many of our laihion modeh have roced me pages of
tascing lashien mogasines oi fu Unilad Sioies, Ewope. Lote Aric. Ala,
ond Alto sen Gs Vogue. Teen Vogue, Ele. W, Glomols, V, Mcvie Clos
Sitoce and Coumopoiion oa wed an many mora Ihioughout tne works. in
oddifon {0 our Wom 880ch office, HCZ Medal no» oices m Kew York Cily
ont Tol Avr, wast.
As Aric Dsaclor and Toten! Coorinoor or MC2 Mods Mam, ILE. a:
Bunt vil be (esponidia for Crersaeng (ho ortsic cipecs of ihe opency, ty
‘veneeng ihe arf ceparment i ihe agency A. BUNS! wil cect Ine wun
aneing of Ihe mogok 1 Cian focuEng on no images plazed on bor he
odes compote cords and thes porloios. Sol of nese Mo¥enng lock de
aucial In morketng ation mace a Ihe coppice coli. edict. of
macko chan. As Alalic Dxecr and lolent Coordinglr. pM: Enel wal thio
ZEinole 159 palm of taifan modeh wih o perlictior phologropier Cents
for fn cgency inciuxfz © mid of fashion Sublcaans, elo yore, conurmer
produc compares. and [oshiar: houses 16 ham but © kw. Recent of
fetened art pholograpnen who have tn cace ent unkderianding ul ha im.
an oul” of ha modeling ann Ioihon may & Grice 1a he weceuhi
10g Of © 10 rorkeing ogency such on 1AC2 Moda Wi. Brunel wi dio
Confae wiih hs amazing Wack record of decovemy 8 wokd's gOS!
lefents ord DEGUNS = cider fc Qn hem wih MTZ Mode. Hs. Brunel wht
Conlinvg a havel eround Ihe works looking lor new folrh. and fo gence
010uTG 1h werk in ore to aslo rekatonshios wit inca agence on
ow IMC2 Models Ma. LE 0 Tapssent Terme: Ins Uviad Si0ie
Me Buners cupresiva uaicaiom ai an An Decor awd Seni
Cooomolor, estou ekptly as lo fe teguinlory Yandeads 1x fun
‘0sResion a1 @ lop Crolesonatia hs he. Mr Sel meets the O-1 caren as
an nivxioal of ealtucreincry anil ihe Ars Gr Enarianmant Bek? os wed cr
9 twine enfrepianeur MC? Model Miami. LC & prmanty seatng o
30DREICGTA or CEC {of 00 Malo! COOXTNGIY. A tEvewing fw Extrgmnce
Gnd accolades. we oro Conjent hal fhe bensheioey. Mi. Jeu Lux: Buna, wal
POTION SO ic on uth GUNG is crc prctassnlm.
LMR. BRUNEL'S GUAUNCATIONS 45 THE BEHTACIARY.
In ackilon 16 bon uc Buel oxlenive Buisess auolicotions. he
{SavBet a on divickol wilh OIE vaton anc cragiive ialenis Guclfes hee oh on
O.1 Aen In Ihe Att on Enferioinment Feld 1 OY. arcompan eR SxpSnece
4 01 t Director Iain! Coxeinotor. intemmalionol enbepreneur or buss.
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ood in fhe mixielng. fasion. nieroirment, cutee ikikors. aan, and
audi Incusiies hos made tr Reunel erally renowned in iness he di,
Among a various occomplenanis IicuGhoul Tis coleer orm Ih Succi
0aeing agencies Ne Nas ounded bon Eau and i ine Und Soles. For
examglo. io 1976. Mi. Banal Iounded and grew Kain Model Paris hor he
ound Up 0 become a lecdmarkel agency wil © woidwkie praca
Contueing G 5700 morkal shorn in Poss, wi, Brunel succesuly Creotod Kern
ode’ 63 @ patio or morgue clients fo clon sophskealad pobk: rakalors
services and impcian modsing conlroc cpporkuriies. M, Sumal’ aceon
£403 30 97601 wilh Kerr Pa thal 1 he nox] 60 vac. ha founded Has! Madi
Moncgament in Los Anges. Collrnia In 1980, Nexi Made Honagament in
Mion Honk: 1 1782. Mode! Manogemeni Group otic mn Miami loi in 1986.
and Rebecca Commercial Casting in New York Cy. = 1988 The fatter cng wos
‘apened of o olert one casting agency fo pedoimors. ofsang varices sek on
voe-avers felevsion. ond cinema odverling work, gain. succentuly caning
i 0 riche by which 1a make Nt mak and aires boc Commerc:
Periarmonce tevull
AmGugh br. Brunel kates soi 4 igh To Nex! Waragament i Fon Kalen
in 1987, who porineced wih Josh Wikeaeld 0 couple of years falar. NOT
195055015 SOME Of fhe ms] prestigious weemen nd men in he foson wor
today Stor talent ches renowned lashion modes Maly Sim. oni
Peslove, Audiey Quock. Yamia Dit, and Molgotia Baio, MEX! conlinues 10
mainicin on nflvanicl intematiora kore in Ihe oshion ond madeing indUwY
I¥Gusth fs uy Goer anc fives in New Yesk, Los Angeles. tom, Sac Movi,
Maries, odor. ont Pass. a wel us i cffiotes in Akan ord Ausholi
Because of siiong 1evenoe Gown an success) busiios perdcrmance.
Gres! of is Gubsic viaon 03 on arts recor ond ioien! coca Me
Brune! Faundad he vary success Karin Models of Amanca In New York City
ond Korn Madls WA 0 Mami Seoch. M. Bruner’ cotvnercid venies i:
bering Karin agencies «1 Para. Naw York ond tam hove baen exioincly
succes generciling Combined onnud revenues cf Sweuly hee 135) Ten
gokas. Evanlunly. Mi. Biunol kesmed the Keun nora 1a 0gencics 1 woe)
Canna. Geran. and Span. Mi. Bruel’ estcdnory iank ore cof only
17166 10 IoUnching success modeling businesses. bur 046 i discovemng ora
UNCing ihe Cicer of soma oi 15 welds mot weceasshL matish. tr Bust
outs unched fhe extremely weceish. Coreen of spermoden such oa Chidy
Tufrgien, Rene: Kuler, Shuron Stane. Mono Beles: alc Water ari
Creinn Semonnoviya. Thess women oll piocesdar 10 become som of ne
most PoloaraEhed anohor cover model; the won appeoAng on
IPOUSNGA Gi MUGBNE COVES vive 01a SDCATING MAY YErmE. Al 6 -esut
of 18 wepulGian 05 0 Ng wisbla, sWolepc ramane: who caves and
Orch 5 LUNFSS 1 SHG Energi men] and beakers c1owe 080k many
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ap plays in “he fainon and enledtament kd roaueNBs hal Ww. Sime
lunciion gs inet exchutiv asienl ore (upkesaniohve, Som of Hats top IoATer
ont presen rofessicnal wormage! In ta famion fais cludo. Neom
Campbel. Chity Tuingion, Rebecca Rorvjn. Aa Jovanovich, inex Sore,
Meatarie Thieny. ant jany Hol. Atlachect af EXHIB 2. pleco tid press oricles
mgording Ms maciel cng acbesaes who were both cscavernd by and cosas
rato launched by ihe Leneficlary, Joon Wc Bunel. Addtonaly. aHoched gz
EXHIB 3, pase 15 soyorel crlcies regarding nw pxesfiglovs Epuldlion of
Sani Woclel ot omer can of the wor leading Oganciss.
Mort scent in Ociober 2005, anc after his reign wih Kann wiodek, Wr
Brunel bunched Tia esis MCI Mosel Manageran walkie i
offs in New York, AOS Gnd Tel Aw 1 tune iarlad Ina High peafie C2
Mode! wGnogerr en in ordi Io represant high fost madels A & boulique
gency telitg MC2 Model Managamen i okeodly being taucec by hon
nsicrs G1 “ore of 1b hotles! agencies n Norn Ameskca® a: wel of
“arorinerly posiined 10 be Gre ol th major payer of he 26tor bacouie of
tid rearorkhins wih ne most infletiol photographer around. Wa Eile
YO 10 vil rormanc Zn om outa to whe he high-celiber of mosh, MC2
reptesecls Some of ils most iecon! success booking: inckide Lis Dos
aciuive conlioct a1 me lace of the Fal 2007 Gueks Campaigs ard Sammy.
Jus Gaver stat lor Cesmapolfon Magee. Aflached ar EXHIB 4, eos find
I of ol of MC's canis, cheng sevexdl hiphipeciie campaign: fagiteig
50m of CZs fa¥hon modets os well as severed pram Clogings 1ogErcing ny
Prashgious ang isputable modelr; ogency.
Jaan Luc Bonel's en'repraneunal ssi a riot only cantoined fo the tid cf
axis baguly. oad fomon =n 1970. Gs G result i Ns business wail Mh. Snel
founded cra grew Jean Luc Ration: Publius, wihah speciaized pass ond
BUMCions Io fou apeloion and estourans Hance. Owing hls werk ivough
Jean Luc Reloton, Pubiue. ML Nuno! iervasentedt varus key cents on
colaboraled on numein piasiGious ever, Some of the preskgious Evenly
wislurl: Ai Toul tnd Bore Veyoges. Jacn Luc Retalions Pukave ais promoted
ON MOIkGIG Lo Toar I AIGEN. free 01 ruslaurant owned by Coe Toros
ona. “The Gobelwesr, 3 MOR pice by George Lovey, Olher preess
taken on by Mi Bunal ivugh his public rato: company wos ih Wolk an
voruct agent for Jeon Cloucks Ky. 1965 Winter Omer Gal Mecha et 16
promaty Vai, Calan in Fence re “oursm polarlial ano oo drected a. of
Ihe DOTIDOn or Finds Winisty of four. n 1975 Mv. Bniral rire ivesledt
2 ha Fane and Hospalohy sme! by Ciacing end cevaki El Aono
Detuuigg”™ a legendary. nighcnd Bar 01 Me Hern Persia, hs bry was
known Ioughou! he peainwic as etemely mickive ord Gmacied ob
colebiiy Clwniele MO! irciuded erkes, Lisvio Andes. ard he Duchan
0'Aloa AfoGNce ox EXHIBIT. pias (1: The bunalcsy's. Jer 112 fame
HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_011983
“paetive ucuum vice veriyig fa Wemandous accom plement i ball
ihe loon crs meeing incusis,
HE ARG
Undiar ihe Macelnecu and Tecivica mmigoton ond Nafonaity
Amanchenh of 1571, cellons lof clasfcakan a an Aven of Exbecrieny
Abit 21h Al m9 Le supped oy mvicenca ol "CBILON" Accerang tah
CR $214.2(0/(3l. “asfine lion” means © high level of achievemant in the fied
of ori a1 evidences by o horeo of 5B Gre 1ecog ion slant abo
nat inary Sncouniered Io Tne er he! o person dorcrbed ay provers
Hs renowacd, teading. or wall-known In the eds of ah, Thi avcinch may
omit of pact hl 1 Glan sl BS (6Cogn vc on being prOMinont I le
9) endochor as damerskatea by he ohoung. recy 10. 8 SF
204 203i:
A Ecco tho ha ben hos bosn naminated foro hes bes he ecient
of SgrAcan! nakonal of intenallonal avers a ites he perteuior Bid soch
4 on Acodety Awerd, on Emmy. a Graminy, or a Dheeler's Gull Award a
5 Aricanttives of tu tollowtng fora of documsriotion
1) Evidence Iho Ine alien hos performed. ond will parorm, sarees os o
aad of tering paiciponi I poxdcions vor wn howe
lngushad wpuloon as evidenced by cleo fsiows, Svertiament,
Publicly recta, publications camaro andorsameri:
12 tkdonce iho the ose ot ac avec notions! o nermatorol
tecogrton or achlevemarls erkisncad by cillcal evi of olher
Pubithad mali by o about fe Ichvcuc i mole nevnpopars, ade
fons, mogadne, or vor publcatons.
3) Exidance fnct ha allen has performed, and wl parr, lead.
sfening, or eicai role Tot organization and ertabiyhesents bol hove a
lsinguiied sop daton evident od by art< at Powspoper. rod
Jaume, pubicatian or festmonials
£4) bdance tha tha abe ha a record of majo commarciel or crcaiy
‘ncclolmed soccatsas os avidencad by such indicclons a We ong
‘shancing In the 1okd, box offic o receipts, meon picture or lalavition
raings and other occupaons sehieyemant raperod m rede fours,
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efor newspapers, o aver publications:
(5) Evidence Mat fe aken has cwcaivad signiicon racogrtfon fer
‘ochievomands fom arganialioni, eics. government agenclas, or olor
acourizod experts n the Seid n which fhe alent angoged. Such
Hesfimorials most ba in fom, whieh elecaly Indicate: ho authors
‘uthorly, expense, and Knowledge of the allen achievements, ot
{8) Enc tha the: am has sliver commanded. high sei or wil
‘comand a hgh solar or ofter subsfonol remunevehon ot services In
allo fo clon bn hi le, os evidenced by contract or cihar rafable
evidence: or
© he cto in parapmph (SXS)(H) of is secon do not ready apply fo
he beneficiary's sccupction, he poker may wb companabis
‘wridance inorder fo exiobih the beneficiary's esl.
EVIDENCE [HA THE BENEFICIARY MEL AT LEAST 105K OF THE PRONGS OF THE
‘CATER A UNDER SUSECTION 3
The fal orona that ne benefcory solfies 5 § GFR 214 2(oNSNMNEN)).
WANN 180s ovidance Iho fhe olen has performed; on wil pero, servicos
a1 0 lsd o raring pariclpant in productions or events which have ©
Siingulahed repulotion or evidenced by calical tees. odvertsement,
PusBclly releases, publication conbicts, or endorsement.
513 105 Gf Ms Brona¥'s Combiand experi n lotion and foun, fo
Sesued lo creale loin Mage! Poece's. now ncuron Models New
‘Gareralion to cross amos those key indus win interna! nol nas! end
invesimen! oppor asic. A. Bunel as pomaled ond cud vriees Modsing
corfu Iougnout Seu Amico clung moaning const Nogec 1
Eure: uch as Peru, Ec ado, Brad, AGO. and Chie, Concanved 1907
Ine Latin Mcciel of Ihe Walk: een wos a ngand mogeing ond enteianmen
trou] 1a Oped fo upscale MYaMalora' Gudunoes AER neat 400
“an Idlomon waves wcddwide Thaughou ne Wie Gf 8 Ar
inketraliri ovo pomCie: and cr: and ‘olan Coordi, Snel ha
uschostoles muh ocoled puke realms, acertsing and mec campagns
rel In onparaled llevakon mogasnGs propo AEE, and cer one
Becomes; olobly WGIGRG for von: major beads us © moka fool
Brunel's orule inoweddge of mortahig Gn proToRG BS hes fac hs
vorious almOIncs Bees io gh Suce esl lic and bxaness ventures
fo venous moje oer Lav, Model Pageants siocled macs fonds 51
HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_011985
spenson wen ox Amencan Atines, Ray-Ban Cara Colo, Frock & Garde,
ond Ravin
W: Buneis hes continued I wrlras as bo o promoter and panel
#4305 when ha founded snd created hw inlemafional madning contest,
Models New Genesalion lia! look praca n GLOYSAA ECLOSCE i F004 Hs.
Brunel 1 on @ ponsl win free oiner peolessicant in 1ha fashion wxdusly ond
iuddged aver fay mine young women hom over North ond Soul Amica. ApS.
‘and Europe. After fen doys of hash compeklian, Jeon Luc Brunel crowns fn
winner Alyna Veber. a fifsen yaar old bem Bail wham ci dt of Soming 11
15 Place was worded ovie IHop hundied housanc! dolor werih of mated
‘conracls. “ha cit nf GUOYOQU. Ecuador wor els frown inka {ha inlemaliandt
spolight 0s In hos cily far ha meceing contest. he todas Maw Ganarcion
was broaricanied on numerous relevaior nalwork channel cluding. Fasrion
V. which lions fo over 202 counties ough Ine ove. ho snire
Assocation of Tnlevmon Channels in Ecucdos, Holorel Taienaon of Cha, an
Rede Globo. Bad's arges] and mos) popuic lekeviion nelwod. Aflachad ov
XH 4 presse fod severct oricius ragording The 2004 Models New
Generation Conteris well 0 he banchciary's ‘sading oie whin th
EEIg0 rodeing oven.
£5. res | Ihe hamerdous success of the fl Mode Now Generar:
thes 20k place In Guayaul. Ecuador in 204. i brunel arginine second
Moric! New Generalion Canta which was hel in 2006 n fhe Ecuadcrion
‘copliciol Guta, In cre a select only tha very bes! new mode savers
prolmirary” cuisiing ows were held in laren CURRY of Lin Ameca
Including Boiwia, Panama ged Pas. Tne noi contest was hel 1 Gute, Ecuador
ei fle haloeicol Poza Sor SONCECo, Me Brunel 164 on part 11 Ie other
EGlES0OR in In fashion mdusiy ond fudged Gver lory-arat| young women
torn fwenty-exghi claret courdies fom Norih ond South Ameo. Aus. ort
Euicpo. Aer fen or of haish competion. Jeon Luc Brunel crewed Ino
loner. Ginto Lupino. cn wghicon yaar Fam Lotvio, whom ot 6 rej of
20mg i la place wo awaaded aver Ihee Furcres fousand aka worn of
ouwing Contois
The cay or Aula ECuoder ws aso reown Inte he era ona spog
2 he nest aly ‘or Ih modeRy Conley, Aga. it fe the irr anie meds
€xDONAE Guan 6 1 fn! Afoclels New Generolice, compatlian of 200%. ‘he
2005 Moin’ New Guneichon competion woy BAGO or nubrous
Isienisn network clrannels eeluckng, Foner 1, whch tori 1o Gyer 252
Mlereal courives hioughou tne globe. Mix snive Associotor. of Telanson
Charms 3, Ecuadc Nalonol Telewsron of China. and Rede Globo. Geai's
10GO 01ct mos! popula tose vaion newark. Atochied os EKHILT 7 cleo ihc
ever press vices regarding fie mosis 2008 Mores New Ganeratn
HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_011986
Compaition. 0 woh a ha beneiiciy 4 Jean LC Enunel leading oie va Ine
svar. Tna 3006 Wodes Hew Genergion Moa wes broadcasl mn over X02
COUN Iu ul 1 woAd. M1. Bnet hos Gerract onc wil ost dain,
contium ta pasar: sence a a ieating parizpan! 1 madeing evenlt Ach
have @ didingaished puiofion ond wi bang more FUE wiematondl igh! fo
MER Mods.
For the Qos meno reasons, Ml runes sohshes NA §214 Zoli 8101)
The second ona Wot ihe benclocy sola 4 § GI
S204 2NINBNEL Wisc 16quies ovdonc hal The. clon hos acHioved
meflonal or inierncliond recogeifon lor ceNevimesh evidenced by crivcal
reviews or cifer publisned matariols by or about Ih indhddual in major
asapasen, ade journals. magsains, o ofa publication
He Bune! hod on inleialions! reputation ©) G vide, sreleg
Meike! ne ake 0 CLTVTIe open ekaontis monogEmeN! Sk 1 cues
10 Cont Busing in a globol envroniment and broker kicrolve mol. Mi
Brunel has 3 or hairy ih kg anc ociverang mor oon Campin
Tvoughoul fw Neoby-fve yur covcer in Ins tan busners, fo Bunel hn
devakoped wos sscisive moray ond cosmele compan. Smo of
ee opr Somali campaign nicks, Bo Them wih supermodel Be
McPhencr. PHAS wih Pebucco Pomp. Cheston Die wih Crasina
Somonriovihaya. Mage! Asc wi) MoE Balkucc, Crane! wih Panic Von
Rckenhwin. Angel Pacumo win They Muga. and Cacheres Pariume. ih
ida Bafesiio We Bruno nas GHG developed mag KING Campaigns nd has
devmiopen compoges and exciyire COTKOR wih som of the work's 1op
Io4rvon designen such a vet SI Lauran, Chanel. Chesian Gor Goce.
Poo Cri Mo Jacoss Peose se Tha enciosns rer of Clubs Mickle,
Present of Modem, & onawmed madeing agoncy EXHIB §
A a scdert Coonnates. Mr Bunal’s suc Cor 0nd shoud a be.
M=GHed ih Ine CCS GarERS 1n8 Model. whose careers he knuncherd
ove ace M4 violed hove, Mi rumet nos drcovered ond septeanied
VOrius wpar mode Meoughou is career. Chily Tusagtan. wha. wa
coved Ey Mi Buel tun peisoribed urallecied Doauty. repveserien
Gale, Sorts Hagiaricen soc 190) Langton Of wel 0) onoher model
(Borers by Wi Bunai. Noomi Compe becomy os af Tha lew
SEIMEI. WHE MOU cum Gn way hanson fom he have glamoin
of he. 1960 in he refarad spicy of the lowing Gezoda. Tecusho! her
Exierave cores, and ob G tes of Mi Buel s “Far Savy Eve” Crety
Tutor 41 Groce) ne coven uf hunches of Tower. magornes. wen
Commonoita. W. Vogue. Shae. Fines Ere. Sata. Mi Clove. Homers
HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_011987
€raure. and even fine Mogae, Please ste Ihe suciois lebor of Ala
Among Dechy of Figera iiemallonal Managemen, EXHIIT?.
n uddikon, Ihe modsing evoris hol La kanal hos been cigaNEG
ffroughoul he: veces rece nol ory nolional. bul aso mlermatancs aifonton
‘ond oppar in mule pubkcosom around He worl Gna of ha most facet
460K ho organiza, ha Models Hew Gereroiion conles! which 100k place 1
Fcunrier woh publicized ond samsmiicd by verous lelewion netwerks ond
cppacred on mulkie newspupars ond mogazines. omorg Mem Globo.
Tefavixon Natwerss in Ba. Fashion 1 which & broadcas! Info 202 cauntnes
Iheoughous the ves 4 Linens, Coss tar Roron. & Dicro. & Telagiofo.
Notnorte Ecita. Hoy E Gran Guoyoqul H Cometh, Semone. orci 8 isms fo.
nme o Tow. These mojor pUBICOIoNs Nove d Ke sbtongton rote whieh
umes i Iw ary mons of readers. ANlochad as EXHIB 10, © ears G10
sven preys crfces riflecling Ine preslige and Nigh ckelion rales of Ine
aborermenfionad magusnes ong pedocicals wch hove feaiued and
Covcio0 tha modeling evens in which a banatciay, Jeon Luc Bunt, has
gorizad throughout ie yaors
Hence the beneliocy sulafos NA 5214 200 BIMIBIR) for having
‘achieved nal only nana: Bun a1 ReMaINGI (cognition 1 achievernees
18106 moduli ndusry. by NOYING 1a WOrK Pubishad 1 mcy nEwipopec and
mogaanes INGUGhoUI Fe works
The Jhitd arena Pol ih bonelicry sashes 4 CER E21 420MABIA)
which scuias evidence that the clin bos 0 iacard of major commerclal or
crfcoly acclolmed successes os ayidencad by such nalemors ox Ie, 10g,
staan in Hw Rok, bos office (csipls, moflon piciwa or lelewsion toings, and
other occupational achieves reparied in rade louns, malor nawsppen,
‘or slher publications.
Ore of ie man reasons hot Hc &runs has Leen obie 10 nol onl survive.
But 650 be exliemely wccesshl in fe ever-changing wad of loin i hit
Uy 10 only 090 cul starauailly faent. As o sul of hs oly 10 scout
oct “alerts, hk. Brunel ws wie 0 become member in ane of ne fashion
lusy’s mest alte on impevior: oxoc fons, The Wnlermokonal Model Token
Asiorfoin Ihevenallor BATA) 15 TATA 5 Gn miEtrional asiaciion of rang
cenien for maces and 10 ant. IIA Gives aspricg modsk. ocios, dngsrs, ond
Cancers specioc ior oppatuuslies 1 showcare Ina poll folens m Font of
ion inher ona fotent gents fiom ihe moral Markel ol Ie inlew alone
ostror indy. WTA also pionides is owociaton member voluoble mcr ekg
30 01d Hwa, re wil EAs 8 eels om Ground foe work
SoveroI of 15501 Up ang com OCT Oi models hors ben dacavisa al
HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_011988
IMA; 500m of hos Ghooes clu woTd-anownad alors such as. Hoh
3oacs. ANY Kulcher Kalle Hoes. [va Longo. Jessa bel, ond Seon
Wilkom Scoll. Aflached an EXHIB 11, pleat fi inkmolan ‘spacing Ihe
externely succents and pestlous modeing nd loshion ossocialn. MIA,
Adaiicroly. please find soverct pogas Fom WATA's ofICiat webs a documenting
Inet Secovery of tho obove menfaned Ad acters ona. ociieses, Whose
member in WTA peoved lo be fhe Kurang pad far vir success ont
High prolate coreers in fe im inhale
Fuhrman. as previously menlioned, Mi Bruner hos launched tho
SuCCosA coeess of many miamolionaby renaaned modes, nba have teen
Hearne or hi 016 m oy Inkeénaliona ong national shan magazines. In
addon, Te commcial venues. especioly MC2 Model omer Ken
Mock. 1ave boon sxremely sUCCEi GENGOMS COMIGINGG GNVol evanuBs
of Iweniy Ive 28) mfian dolor. Curent IAC2 & 00 of Ine most wk cessl onet
wekknoun modsiog agencies in the world. vi. Grune! is one of ‘ew peaple 11
ne moaeing eines mat hove Ccveved a seme sanding aod Have bear:
bie io alo or ver warly-Aus yeon,
Fox Me bovenmmnioned tecsons. Mi. Bruner sales A §214 ei Hib:
‘EVIDENCE LAT THE BENEFICIARY MEETS CFR £2) 42(0MUHC)
The peltfons: ha sobmilod o plaharo of evidence gang Me Bunsis
swcsriznce in In othvon modieing indus, Mr. runes nas esiactanort MG
Maciel, former Koti Models, which is piésenlly one of ho major mlamaionl
mocicing Ogencies wi comainad Gal reverues of hyenly fun mien
aks Only someone wei Mr Basmals @markse ono song Hiv or succets
can Gove such mination’ Géciarilion in the incsty and beer cbs lo
malnloin i 401s 01 eve: wen ve YEQR. 141. Bune! 3 i one (spon ox
The launch of numeiaus supermodel Greer. Wich hove been mom: 8d in
thc 103NigH lox sovorcl yours. Ho hos worked! wilh anownod Iaion designers
ors phlogropRas, wha have: flied 1 widk Ged Wiifion In odddon. M.
Bune! nos cvénestrotet many intesnckona and nolan! cee Xion
vuiy Hol lave ceived imernationdl Geckmoton
fox the above mentored aasons. Wi. Sunol mn GO! 16 misting of least
Tao of lho Gita uf & CFR F214 2G; 3118] ne oso quaaties undies 8 212
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cio hi avid, Whol He Enel agit for closilicarion as
rt Alon of Eslioordnaty Ani in All Direction an Tos! Conianaion oled
HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_011989
upon hs meellay tha efgbily requirements under the inatgiofon and
Natwamorion Act 103 (a) {0} ord © CFR 214.2lal, Mr. Brunel econ
area proves hot ho 5.0 examen! leading ond wall kno pacson in Ine lsd
of offs. Buel axkoordinary city in Ihe foi of oh, in which he wil
continu fo werk n fhe Unded Sioles, has baen demarcated by wstained
rabonc) and infemtobonal acclaim. Beved on the loresoirg. we: fipeciidy
fous! your kind consderalion ond tovarie deipmiaton of Th Catton, 1
outer o Greer Me. Buact tha ciasiicaron 0s an Alen of exaerdinary Aulily in
‘An Diwciian amt lent Coordinalion. Apt. Kindy hate thal fho bench.
Hi. Joan toc Brun, has held O- stats 4 fhe past.
Hheralors. for 1a cbovesfolea recsors. we respeciluly request your
Iavetasio adudicaton of he O-) nonimmisron’ via peliion suoMISS by MCT
odo Mar, LC on benol of Me. Brunel. I you 1heukd have ory coestion: or
iwauke any adalionct documantaiion, thos do bet Nelle 16 contac ow
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75 Lower Weldan Breet
#2. ARens, VT 05479-0001
RE C2 Non luwmigrant Vies Petition of bebalf of Jes Luc Brun
Der Hiroe Madam:
WM ae 1 His Chm ef am Peet of Mortage Mesh ve
30 years of sxpericncs 48d 1 BI Co AOLy 15 contact with peofdletolials all
aver the word. A few ok my ellenty fovkice Elle Magmdme, Snows.
Ravana, Laue Shop, Osi’, Tha ley Stores. — aad 30 an. As such, |
80 qualified fo sorament ou Mr Jews Lue fcurels career ms a ant
ivoctor ofextracedinar SM
118 not oaly because of his arvlamations ov hia tmpemsive bods: of wrk
he a Mioariiog od sami an san) on wad
choose a stikine Mr. Brunel's greol taisul For their reouwned acoourits, Mr.
mage oh lh ms ep ot Bom
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in nw a 13 phere Tes
HE Se Frond is
LJ 1 commend stble Srmptmbion for his work As compares ve
io the buslacss
Bir Bras raputation a & eemidsbie Sct wits 8 ermal dednaric:
pene bin. He Is constarely researching, wn developing stiniclatinghy
Dupo comply for ele liens and { Savy come ta rely 90 and frst him spd
‘le ability. Over the coun of Ma celeb sed carver, Josn Luc Fronel has
detingiishe Timsek! mm oor of the leading fankice at directa. io the
Hie Suma Loe Broo scr cris relationstip fo Le aesuiete,
This quay manifests atl throsgh the toautihl wort he cro, tise
afta time, Therefore. Jena Lis Brassd m chaaty one of the mon isleoted
profesicrale working In the work today | look foreand to seeing ror of
is ek bn the fre. [
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NEHRU TROM
Sagtamime 17, 2014 |
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Vista Garmoo Cars
73 Lovie Widen Stat.
RA, UT 0E479-0001
RE: Ou Naminmigrant Visa Putin on behast of Joo Lue Brunet
mar oe Mute |
mek Mee by sand vy 6 90 NGUEINIOS SPOON For 118 Rand nay bE O-1 vies
peillon MERC by M4 Jan Lu Brunel As fw Sonex eked Prodees foe
Nordstrom, 19m quoted 10 19y Ii W Jos Luc Brunel fn 0 art Cecior and Guan!
‘coondinlor of He Tighe! exalt wheee lection smelanca and eal vison have:
i hm 0 fhe fap of Nis prosiesion. |
Theoughoul M2 Jes Luc Srunafs delrguished Cato, dm hes. receved & high
Ji ier bP mdsdiop bys rial coid ofl punt dn
Focal Toes ould beard ences Bhat hve conor te del of orchaoed projecs in
Eo Pram a 5 ht rv a Tn
Tam 5 Conilend winn bo Tia chuive $0 oparsbenat Bilis of amy coho Srecion
pean, ekoding ai dimeiors snd talent coorinaton. | te Bemis ry posse B
recagnizs fy tetvatle taint nd soevemants of Mr. Jesr Las Aunel, He mesages.
10 8CHHve- ib STG reps from th med curse derveiapad croaiiva/conaepts end
am. 18 bis very unin wisi 16 GORI, Wh Cachd analysis, I inten
orwalve Wiseaaps of hee certs. 8 iu Clear that Wr Jew Lic Brunel is isenied fer ayond.
De a a oy ot
conscemd Indeed, M8 has worked wih some of Ie best-hrown relyurs, fein
houses, Sd BIBQAZIONS 71 310 WOK M fn wBhOUl | Goud Ted 1 pleas lm §1 he Take ¢f
forty edi t
1 cum cweidanty testy tl Mr. Jean Lu Brurale rept sdon nen sciveved ismatonal
tahun. He Des renched § vel whens ndublyy KOON mew deacrie fin 08 & sla’
Joan Luc BUMS exVaoniinary CTeeT is 8 3 PONY wna Fare ig AC turing badd.
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Recommendation Letter
220314
uscis
Vermont Servic: Center
78 Lower Wekden Surwat
8, Allman, VT 08475-0001
RE: ©-1 Nonimmigrant Visa Peticion on behalf of Jean Luc Bruel
Der Si or Madam
1 du as extrecne pleasure 10 write s letter of recommenation for Mr Jean
Le Brunel. | provide this recommendation based on 1 knowledge: wid
experience in the field of modeling, due to my catwblished reputation and
work in the field as the Viadimir Yudashkin, director of 1 Mother Agency.
Kiev, Ukraine
1 have knewn Jean Lie Brunel professionally for several yonns through
our work tageches snd, in my opinion, he it an exirpmcly talented
Individual with superb professional reputation. He v wn extraordinarily
able coordinator who strives for and atteine a level of merit in hus work:
that only @ few of bis contemporaries meet. He hos the ably 10
recognize the croative vision of hus cliemt wthn the ume aod budget
through bin careful and thoughriul choice of model casting combined
with bis meticulous bility In the field. Jean Lue Bruoe! 4s a true find a
aux induatsy.
There are plenty of act directors out there, but none with the depth and
quality that Mr. Bronel povseanca Hz is mlike aon in tia boduatry,
85d [ expect 10 ace him continue to find great models nv his aucceastul
Ewrery. Someone overflowing with alent as Jean Luc Brune] should be
given every oppartunity 10 work in the United Sates, where he will have
the proper venues to showense his extraordinarr lenis.
Please do not besitate to cotact me should you have ‘any questions
regarding this matter. Thank you for swus time and isider ton
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Daporment of Komelond Security
United Shela Cihaeship nd Immigration Services
Vermont Service Centar
30 Houghton Saat
Son! AIDaNL YT 05478
Fe: O-1 Exhaordinary Ati as on Ar Director ond Talent Caordinatzr an
banat of Jean-Luc Didier “ern Rene Sn.nek i
To Whom ( Mey Concem
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WMadals Miami. LC. or banal of We Jean Luc Bane! 13 work a3 or AT
Diratios ond Yolen! Coordinator.
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neIworeT who , Obie 10 Culivole expert relcfiorsho management skis n
order 1a conduct Buse in a global ervianment and Licker WEIDHve
dodk, Mr. Bub! nas a long HiT A MOKAING GNa COYertsng mar
foshlon coMpoigns. TaLEhc. rir weniv-five yaar <arees In INR fosnen
busingss, Mr. Bruna! has developed wo'iwidd, Sxciusive Incdakg 1d
coumeiic compagns. Some al hese MIN COIMenc «amgaign inch.
BO Tham with supermodel Bie Mic-hernan. PHAS wih Kedecca Kor,
Chuition Dice vii) Chula Semcrvioviayn, Mare! AHIGH wih Marica
Bebucci, Chong! wih Pais Vo, Ri kenneim. Ange Perfume veh Theory
Mugler. and Cochoie Pedume wil Acc Ballesra. Mi. Sune has Jac
developed mar fashior, onossze: ond NFS EeuS ped comaeigns ard
SachAiva CCA seb forme of tha merd's Lig bison designers teh ny
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vor tit word. A few of my clients [orto Elie Megarime, Sonn,
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om qualified 4 sorament om Mr. Josh Lue Beacels cower £2 83 45%
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potion submeied by Mr. Jes Luc Biunel As he Sorwor Taiost Produce for
Norsuom, } am quetiied io 837 het Mr Joan Luc Brunel is @1 an drodior and tment
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Recommendation Letter
2/09/14
sci
Vermont Service Center
78 Lower Weide Street
1. Athans, VT 03479-0001
RE: 0-1 Non dmanlgrmnt Visa Petition on behalf of Jean Lus Bruel
Daar Sir or Madam
1t 1s an extreme plessure to write a letter of recommendation for Mr. Joan
Luc Brunel, | provide this secommendation based on my knowledge and
‘xperience in the feld of morcling due te my catabllshed rep:ration and
work In the field as the Viadimir Yudashiin, director of 1 Mother Agency,
Xie, Ukmine
1 have known Jenn Luc Bruel professionally for sever, years through
aur work together and, in my opinion, he is an extremely (aieried
individual with superb professonal reputaiion. He is an je raordinanly
able coardinator who strives for and attains a level af merit fn his work
that only a few of his contemporaries eel. He haa the ababty to
secognise the creatwe viion of his client within the tigic and budget
though bis careful and thoughtil chute of model casting combined
with his meticuloun abllity in che field. Jean Lue Brunel ir 4 tre find 1m
ur industry.
There wre plenry of ast directors out there. but noae with) the depth and
quality tht Mr Beunei possesses. He i unllice anyone In this industry,
80d | expect 10 see him continue ta find great models in ha successful
career, Someone ovecllowing with talent as Jean Lue Brune) should be
given every apportunity 10 wot in the United States. where hr will have
the proper venues. (> shawcaze his extrardinary whens
Please da oot hesitate to contact me should vou have any questions
segarding this matier Thank yes fut yur (ime and eonuideration
Serass” lr
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Deorment of Homeland Security
Unites Staten Clfzpnship and imei on Services
Vermoni Sarvica Cantar
30 Houghton Stas!
Saint Albans, VT 05478
Ra: G-1 Exfrooicinary Abiity 08 On Ar Director and Talent Caerdinalzr zn
behatl of Joanie Didie: err Rana Brune! 1
To Whom IF Moy Concer
As a Prasiciend of Mosewerk. this lefter & suDTiHted in supper of C2
Meclol Mic, UC. or behalf of M:. Jear: i.e Brunel ‘0 wrk G3 or Art
Director ond talent Cooramater,
Mr. Brunel nelds an ieealional mpulation os a valle, stolegec
fiewerser who 1 able To Culfivale axpert refatianshin menagemant is
order ta conduct busnest in a global ervionmant and Lecker NCIaTYE
clocks. Mr. Brunel nos © lang Alor Moketng ord adveriivng Mar
foanion cOmPoigns. MHOLGNC TIS wae. ive voor Corolin Ing Ramon
businass, We. Brung! has developed wordwice, exclusive incdeling and
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Data: 11/12:2014 17:48 (GMT-05:0C}
Suoa: RE: New York
Jear Uc,
1am really sorry you feel <0 bad and | know It as been 2 mental and psychological frustrasion. As you
Know | nase to partner wit, you due Lo your reputacion in the Susiness for Sein a top scat and
developing a couple world class agencies in the past. | knew whal you could bring and kncw wat |
could bring 7d contribute and 1 Fought would be a great partnesshin, Clearly, | never expected to
ave the level of challenges ie have had recruiting new models over the last several sears. | could have
never foreseen the problem of you frendship wih Jeffrey 2pstsin tuning inta the siuation «has.
where you are sen 3: guilty by asscclation when you have never dane anything or avn been canvictec.
ota crime. Frarkly, | 60r't understand the necassity for Concha Sarmof? or amyone wise tG continue to
defame yaar nan:e and 1AC2 by association,
11 17 hat wa constantly have ta justify ourselves when racrufting new riodeks. The industry
extremal; campet tive and 43 a parent myself if faced by the same information and having to make a
touzh deciian bemeen 10a agencies | would net pick MC2 if | saw the article online about ja. You
have to 7eac closely 10 see thera is not a chargs against you but the implication i strong and of course
iow days everyone be eves everything they read online even morc than the traditional newspapers of
the past
know you are new fesfiag ike 3 labilty to 11C2. Sut you personally are net liability to MC out this
published information aniine s 3 liabilcy. Ve are not 2 arge enough company, nar do we have tre
capacity to light this on a global level. On 3 gaogle search i? America we have put enough infarmation
online to not have it popping up 50 blatantly but we have no controls over the rest of the world or the
finances to control ts situation und wo are affacted us ovary major model agency recruits i's best
models Irom al Ure various couslies abroad. This es stunted our growth an our bil over the past
Gor 4 years, Infact, we do not even know who avons us Laseed on 7nd hs information, | lieve beer
surprised Fw clialensyog 1 1 0 US 10 RIO uk 10 is problen.
1 have elo had a tremendous amount af worries from ou: clients that we are vendors for that are large.
American corpozaticns kes Kohls, C Penna, Sears, Nordstrom, Target, Neiman Marcus, Macys, Saks,
Belk, and =a forth that require vendor agreements and for us t2 be consider an upstanding
company. It rally worries me as same of those companies have disassociated themselves from shat
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they helieve to oe quastionable companies. So far shat has not boen a problem but t could come up in
the future.
Tre fact that you ae requested or so many scouting events In various countries and cannot promote.
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cers of our global branding. In short, it has had a terrible effect an MC all sround. | really urge you
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auestianing ny abllky a the leacor of the organization, | can only attrbute the fact that we have
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‘Woman who sued convicted billionaire over
sex abuse levels claims at his friends
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A woman allegedly kept as a sex slave by politically-connected billionaire investor Jefley
Epstein, whe went to jail for having sex with underaged girls, is accusing several prominent
[rieads of Lhe financier of having taken part in the debauchery. according to a new court filing.
The woman —ceferved to in count papers as Jane Doe #3 leveled the allegations Tuesday
against | larvard Law School professor Alan Dershowitz and Britain's Prince Andrew. as well as
British socialite Ghislaine Mexwell und French model scout Jean Luc Brunel.
Dershowiiz flatly denied the claitns bout him Wednesday in wn interview with POLITICO.
u's tatally. unequivocally and completely false,” the celceated attorney said.
A spokesraan for Prince Andras denied the ulegations Friday. while a lawyer who handled
related matters for Maxwell did not respond ta an e-mail seeking comment. Representatives of
Brunel's modeling firm slso did not reply to e-mail messages.
The accusations came io u long-running lawsuit charging federal prosecutars in Florida with
viclating 8 victims:-rights law hy filing to consult with Fpsicin's victims hefore signin off on a
plea deal. That pact neled our smy federal prosecution of the investor, who agreed tw pleed guilty
10 twa stat: prostifution-relaced felony charges. Lawyers for the victims have described the.
arangeinent 5 3 went deal the well-connsied Bpsiin and his high-powered legal team
ethno by puting prevsure on prossastit,
Epstein served 13 months of an 18-month sentence on the ti state charges hefire being
velsased 10 2009, He's mow rested sex nender
“The new court filiag, subrmitted by Farida lawyer Brad Edwards and former federal judge Paul
Cassell ins federal court in West Palm Beach. Flu., usked thar Jane Dee #3 and another woman
he allowed ta join the pending case over the victims rights claim.
“Epstein... rafticked Jane Doe #3 for sexual purposes ta many other powerful men, including
‘numerous prominent American politicians, powerful business exsutives. foseiga presidents, a
well-known Prime Miniser, aad other world leaders. Cpsiein requied June Doe 31 10 describe
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the events that she had with these men 50 that he cauld potentially blackmail tem, the court
filing said
“One such powerful individual that Epstein forced then-niinor Jane Doe #3 10 have sexual
relations with was fore Harvard Law Professor Alun Dershowitz, close friend of Epstein’s
and well-known criminal defense utlomes. Epstein required Jane Doc #3 1 have sexual relations
with Dershuwitc. on numerous aceasions while she was 3 min. nt anly in Florida bat als an
private planes. in New York, New Mexico, and the U.S, Virgin Isfands,” he legal pleading
added.
Dershowitz called the allegations “tntelly made up and totally fabricated from beginning to end.
He said he vas not in the places described in che fling at th eelovant times, with one exception:
I did visit Epstein’s private island in the Caribbean on one uccasion.
“1 was there with my family.” the renowned law professor said.
Dershowitz said in u follow-up interview afl this post int sppeared Wednesdvy that he's
planning (© Gls bar complaints against Eabwards and Cassell for inailsquately vetting their clnt's
story
“ren planning file disbarment charges against the two lawyers who signed this petition without
even checkin the manifests of sirplanes or travel itinecaries, ¢ cetera," he said, “Im also
challenging the young woman and the lawyers to level those charges sgainst me outside of the
courtroom, so that | Gan sue them foc defamation... Fialy. I'm challenging the woman wo fle
criminal charges against me because ti filing of false criminal charges is ¢ crime.”
‘The motion aceases Prince Andrew of simitar actions. asserting that “Jane Doc #3 was forced to
have sexual relations vith this Prince when she was a Binge it hese sepacate aeographical
locations: in London iat Ghislaine Maxwell's apartment), in New York, und an Eputein's private
island in Uhe LS, Virgin Islands {in an ory with numenous other under-ged girls).
Previous press accounts have reported on Prince Andrew's friendship vith Epsein, who was
&nown.as a philanchropist and supporter of scientific research befure the criminal inv:stigatians
began nearly a decade go. llowewer, the earlier accounts stopped short of accusing the prince of
sexual invalvement with girls Epstein procured. in # 2011 Vanity Fair sory. Pence Andrew
denied any such contact.
‘While u Buckingham Palace spokesman did not respond to POLITICO'S query hoi the matter
on Wednesday, the palace issusdd a denial fo several British nows outlets Friday. "This retes to
long-standing and cngoing civil proceedings in the United States. to which The Duke of York is
AOL party. AS such we would not comment on the detail. flowever, for the avoidance of dub,
amy suggestion of impropriety With UnAETIge Minors is categorically uarue. the stxement said.
Prosecutors said ina 2007 dal letter they’ d identified 40 young waimen who could be
considered victims of Fpsiein's illegal acts. Many of them filet lawisoits or claims against
Fpstein and reached Gutofscous sclements for amounts that were nt disclose
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While “Jane Doe #3" is unidentified in this week's euuet ling, her story appears us track with
that of a women wh suey Epstein in 209 nd settled vith him later that year. She rpparently
ramadan antberecord interview 0 Rrisin's Daily Mail in 2011,
Some uf the ascinaliun with Bpstein on the part of tabloids and glassy magazines stems from his
ties to former President Bill Clincon. In 2002, Epstein provided his 727 fo Clinton for a trip fo
Africa to siudy anti-A ILS programs. Calebritics such as Chis Lucker and Kevin Spacey came
aleng for th ride. The new coun fling rakes no taeation ot Cliston, Tucker or Spacey.
The federal investigation obuained puanifists for Epstein’s private fot travel. but prosssiors
neve: charged anyone besides the investor with involvement in obtaining or using underaged
ils for Sexual purposes.
The new coun filing says chs rosa i in par di 10 the face that Epstcin’s legab team —which
includ sich heavyweights 33 former independant counsel and solicitor genecal Xen Starr, tial
lawyee Ray Black. and Dershowitz—negatiated a deal thot precluded the feds chacging anyane
25 8 comconspirator.
Lawyers for Jane Doe #3 argue in the new motion that Dershowitz put this language in the
agreement 10 protect hase.
However. the Ins professor told POLITICO he didnt negotfate thet deal and i wasnt aimed as
protecting him. “1 hod nothing co do with drafing the noa-prosecution agecemeal.” be said
Dershonit: added that the last dra of the agreement mentioned four people by name who
wouldn't bs prosecuted and he was not among them. All were regular associates or assistonts of
Epstein. the swyer said. adding that the final language removed those names ind sitmply barred
federal prosecutors in South Farida from going after ony potential co-conspirators
Epstein and his lawyers fought hard to prevent scconds about his plea acgotiations tom being
fumed over Ko Vii” tories, However, U.S. Distriot Court Judge Keith Maru ruled lust ver
hat the victims are enditled to examine hiss records fo prepare their case against the
government.
Epstein, Black and oxhers appealed that decision to the Atlanta-based 11th Circait Court of
Appeals, but it rulzd in April of this year that no privilege protects plea negotiations in this sor:
of dispute.
Edwards and Cassell did nol respond to eyuests for coment for this pas, including an inquiry
shout their response to Dershowits comments. Howaver, the pait appear to be pressing forward
with the victims’ rights lawsuit, which socks to unravel the no-federl-prosccution deal cut foe
Epsein in 2007.
UPDATE (Wednesday, 7-18 AL): This post has bom updated with furthor comment from
Dershowicz
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sympathetic to the plainttt, Farooq Bajwa. A farmer computer components manatactucer’ El Pollo Loco
franchise owner. his test venture was company called InfoSpan ne.
Thejost a portrayed we visionsiry whis had an ides ns allo farefgn wires 0 easily smd cheaply send funds
back to relatives in their home cauntey via the internet or cell phone
“8 realized 1 mighr make big difference in this work not only helping these underprivileged people who dont
have hank scouts, 1 will also be helping bring an economic revolution,” jus, 64. told the paper. “Lad
very big dreams.”
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Thu uller he smack a deal with Ernirates NBD tr voll out his prouct, SpanCush. he claimed the bunk stole his
proprictary technoloa, killed the deal and mined his company. (Though it's had to tcl 100 sorry for hir--
he's pictured un front of his house. a mansion that would put Versailles to shame. In this David-and-Goliath
story, he's a David from the 1 perscer}
Thsjors sought KSS4 million plies punifive damages on rail secre misappropriation amd misrepresentation
claians.
Iial began on July 26 in U.S. District Court for Coutral District of California, On Aug. 1. Rustler and
Isaseson summed up their opposing positions in closing srguments,
Tats take a louk.
Isaacson. who did not respond fo a request for comment, lod with one of his strongest cards: LSA! LSA!
“We as a ouiry, made up of flawed pele, came together as ane of the greates! countries on Furth, because
we are a nation of laws.” he said. accanding to a trscsceipt of the proceedings. “This was about hard wark and
hat Happens whea your woes is destroyed and taken, ow you's entitled to be tecated uader the Jaws of the
United States.”
Tor Ruenunler, the appeal was nol emational or jingaistic. 1 was rational ull the way.
‘er fist ing: “Mr. Bajwa has come up with an interesting story, but its not what happened.
And then, in the mast madler-of-fict, conversational way, she unnihilated his case.
“There ace at least fivs fatal Haws in Ms. Bajwals case. and any onc of those alone sinks his case. Any one.”
she said, according to the transcapr.
Bajwa couldnt prove that SpmCash was ovr fully funtionsl and commercially ready, Ruemmlr ssid. In
Tact, she argued, it was never even eal product
Furthor, she said, Bajwa didn't prove that the technology or platform: wes comprised of any trads soercts; or
that Emirates Bak stole SpanCash; or that it ver used it. Finally, Bajwa didu’t prove Infospan suffered any
dames, she said.
Same of her tums of phrase are cetivshingly non-lasserly. “Sham is going down ter... Its not as if these
guys were cxaetly cubes... This is some flinaflara ching. On of the maa, many dog-ge-ny-homework
Sxcuscs. Lis is an sbsolure double-dawn liv.”
The averall elect: she simplified without being condescending.
Butthere was stil a huedle for Emirates. Or as Lathan’s Schecter put cin aa interview, “Lhere are some facts
we wouldn't sont,”
Afler the hank terminated is ugreement with TnfsSipan and demanded its investment hack, Tfospan’s deputy
CEO, Larry Scudder. was anvsted when be tried 10 leave the UAL.
“Atthe Dubai Airport hat dav, the Dubai polics amosted Mr. Scudder afte he prosented his passport af an.
electronic terminal. Police told Mr. Scudder hat charge of criminal fd had besa filed agains! him for
$1,465,000. Mr. Scudder wus hundculTed und marched through the sirpart wid then held in police detention
facilities and inteerogated,” the complaint states.
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Ho was handeusfed to a chaie, then teansfecred to a esl with 30 peopl before beng relcascd 19 bowrs later, at
Tan. Aad then. the police kopt his passport for sux months before he coutd finally leave the country.
Om the stand, he erie shen he spoke shou the ordeal
Isaacson in his closing cepeatediy called it extortion, “Because when the bank held Me. Scudder’s passpon--Fin
sory. caused his prssport to held, that just didn't cause peesonal paia foe Me. Seuddes,” ho said. “What it did
was give tho opportunity for the bank fo control the technology. o control ch situation, because now InfoSpan
couldnt compte in the LAE hocxuss of the fans that this typ of thing would happen. And if sso gave him
the apportunity to try und extort money wid cantrol of Ure technology from nfaSpun.*
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yor cla business overseas, youll comply with the Tavs of the foreign couniry. And in UAT, this is haw they.
headle fraud.
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that if you've hon chested. thaf's what you're supposed to do.” Ruznmler suid.
What about Seudder’s emotional testimony?
She undercut in without coming across as callous--a fine linc.
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was detained for Less than 24 hours. nine years ago; aad then, he was in bis corporate apsstmea and had
$300,000 10 Jive for, ike, sbout six moudis. I just pointe to say this: | will leave to you to cvanate the
sincerity of those fears in light of all the other evidence that you have heard in this ese.”
And thea she immediately talled shut hus he “basically, hud faked u document.
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steal technology from an Irvine firm that sued it for half a billion dollars in damages after their partnership
collapsed.
the partnership because InfuSpan conldn’t produce & working product and misled it into thinking it was an
astablished company. not one with litte no track record.
Afar delibenling for day. the jury unanimously decided that InfoSpan did nol prove ifs cass of fraud and
InfoSpan had asked for $540 million in damages. An attorney for LafoSpea declined to comment on the
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pussibility oan uppeal.
The verdict capped a two-week rial that involved ducling accusations of fraud levied by high-profile attorneys.
on both sides, including the former White House counsel to Presiden Obama.
Atta conter of the high-stakes battic was San Juan Capistrano resident and satreprencur Farooq Bajvsa and a
mobil payment system thal he si would ullov migrant workers in the Middle Fast to send remittances buck
home hugh tex messages
Baja contended thac InfaSpan, with support feo outside investors, spent $87 million developing the
busincss and technology.
Io launch the system, known os SpanCash, Bajwa partnored in 2007 wich Emirotos Bau, which is controlled
by th United Arab Emirates” sovercign wealth fund
W seemed Ure ideal colluboration for the Pakistani immigrant, wh eumied millions uperativng umothe Trine
company that mumulictured computer compangnis in the 1980s and 1990s
Ihe Gulf States eely heavily on migrants to work conseruction and other low-wage jobs, offorng a ready-made
market for SpanCash. InfoSpan aimed fo allow miarants to trasfor moucy back howe far more cheaply than
Weston Uniam er hawalu, truditional Middle Fasiem brokar-Le-roker mane framsfer system
A study from McKinsey & Go., ited in ciuri recisnls, projected smal revenue of $3.5 billion hy the deals
fifth year, with IntiSpan receiving moce then $2.8 billion in fecs.
But the relationship betwsea lafuSpoa and Emirates Bank soured and the bank cancelled the deal in 2009.
A fou days lator, Emiratos filed a criminal complaior in Dubai against Bajwa and a parm alicging that thoy
dafraudod the mk and inisrproseted InfoSm se an tablished business with a working echnology.
Two years later, TnfoSpam sued in US. District Court in Santa Ana und alleged that its lechmalogy was working
und thal it delivered its source core the bank on serves, Fmirates ended Ure deal, TntaSpun said, to launch
ws on mobile payment system after stealing InfoSpan’s technology.
Iu court, an attomcy for lufoSpan argued that kmirstes forpedocd the lufoSpan relationship because it abhorred
ue much mone: it would have fo shire sith the Irvine firm
“They waned SpanCush und they wanted the money.” aitermey William A. Tsaacson said in his closing
scgunents Wednesday.
Jsaacson a partacs with powerhouse law fron Boies Sebiller & Ploxac, chaired by high-profile lrigator
“David Boies ~ argusd that the bank resorted fo “pure extoMiON” in an ACP 10 got ifs Way.
Asa rosul of the bank's criminal complint, InfoSpan sllsgsd Bajwa’s paraor, Lay Scudder, vas defined au
the Dubai Tutenuational Airport und taken ton cell where he wis locked i with 30 alhee men for 19 hours until
he secured his release by ming aver his pussport.
According to the Jawsuit, Bajwa tried to cssolye the situation but was told Scudder passport vould be
released and ho could keave the couatry only if LafoSpan gave up owncrship and coutrol of SpanCash to the
bak.
Six months later, the bunk withdrew the fund accusations and Scudder got his passport back. hut SpanCash's
reputation was tamished and it collapsed, Baja previously told The Times.
The bank disputed that it acquicod [afuSpan's sowrce codk or used ic at any uns.
‘Former Whitc House counsel and an attorney for the hank, Kathryn Ructmlor, said that Ecniceres never would
have acquired sours codon a joint-nartershin del like the ons reached with Infospan. Sho said such
technology would instead be held by u third-party escrow company fur the length of the partnership.
Tn her closing arguments, the purtnee with global firm | atom & Watkin tld the jury thet Bajwa and
IntoSpan sold the bank a “bill of goods.” arguing that despues promises to Emirates, the technology never
worked aud InfoSpan wasn’t as big a company a it claimed.
The hank cancelled the deal and fled wn eriminal complaint, nal ax.a firm of exliiian hul simply w regain the
ak’ money ier if was misled and doubts grew sho the character of TnfaSpan’s emplpyees, Ruemmler
told the jury.
“They conehudad, detinitivoly, chat they had been defraud,” she said.
Lubua Qassitn, group genctal couns for Emiratos Bank, seid in & statcencut aftr the verdict chat “Emirates
Bank is gralificel by foday's decision and the opportunity ta receive a fir trial in U.S. courts.”
Thejowu said the trial has ken a toll un him anal he doesn't kn his et steps.
“I don just beat up,” he said
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On Fri, Dee %, 2016 at | 1:46 AM, Ens, Amancio I=. oc:
We continue fo see further upside in financials.
Arrerican investor wre very bullish the banks [long only AND hedge funds AND macro funds), bul then conclude “1
buying has been concentrated in XLI (every client sector we have has been a better buyer of XU ).
1] Regulation: Excitement, with the base case that it’s not getting worse.
3) Sentiment on growth: Also bullish
outperforming the S&F) after Reagan's tax reform bill passed the Senate; and 2) in 2003, the last time we saw personal
upside to 2018 EPS from ~25 405% and stocks still cheap vs. discretionary.
© Buy a5 month 105% call with a short 110% call that knock in if XLF trades above 115% during the life of the trade
re m—
* Gross max payoff if knock in is triggered: 2 8x (5.05%/1.75%)
Regards,
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another 20 25% upside given the many levers to the Trump Trade: less regulation, higher interest rates, higher vol,
view Lhe larger cap banks as having multi pronged upside given the aforementioned points.
That said, given the velocity and magnitude of the recent move and uncertainty around the ir-pact and timing of
a Gross rx payoll if knock-in is nol Iriggered: 5.7% 114,9%/2.6%) = you have upside up Lo 124.9%
Post Election Flow Skews - Buyers of Health Care (via ETFs} and Financials {mainly ETFs)
+ US Buyback Flows
* Cons Disc, Technology wad Financials are the largest 3 sectors for US buybacks (over 70% of execution). We
Global Positioning, Nigel Tupper. 11/14. Large loug-ualy fuuls ure wore underweight Finnacials thun ay other
sector and are UW this sector in all regions.
Future of Financials conference hosted 30 public and private companies at our Future of Financials conference. We are.
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I Une period sinc: Une US presidental sletion, Une thro: Lop performing SBF sectors and industry groups have ul
ben finance-related Banks, Financials, Diversiie Financials)
“Wadon Gang Moment: oan: Rett ssa vs. $49 500
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us
Source: Kensho Technologies
he oe Shes, Michoed Hartnell, 11/18, Violent rotation: record equity £11 inflow, record financials inflows, biggest
Bond oueiow in 3.5 rs, record EM debt outflow.
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Rockefeller Partners with Gregory J. Fleming to Create Independent
Financial Services Firm
Firm to Focus on Weaith Management, Asset Management and Strategic Advisory
Viking Global investors to Back New Firm
October 04, 2017 06:30 AM Eastem Daylight Time
EW ¥OR4 BUSINESS WIRE Rockefeller hana Ser es, Ino “RFS 1 he parent comps of Rockefeller 5.C3
and Srsgory J Flaming have aon form Rocker Gaia Mar 33srmont Roc feof or“ imi 1 indopondont
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(Greg Fleming wi corre be Chief Exec. ie Office of Reckefelen sor cssing. Ke Fering, a longtime Tnanca
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nese. Rifdnd, Wharton & Garson LLP was he 69a advsor 0 Viking.
About Rockefeller Financial Services
As 0f une 30, 2017. Roce sr & Co. has approxiniatey $76.2 tion n assets nder ady seme: fo +3 vidual and
fares, family ffces, 0 prof anganizat ns, fo sndations. dese is. 3+ gata itlfuions. This numce: nc des 161
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arcrecture prograres oats” assignments, cons dated reparing. and account 13 and aK et preparato1 sevices
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iki Global Investors LF is slob ves:man: im 0.1983 in “465 its offices = Greemwieh, how York S51
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in a transaction that many mark as the beginning of, what we now
know as, the Global Financial Crisis of 2008. While it is said that
the passage of time heals all wounds, the disastrous contagion
across the global financial landscape, the collapse of numerous
large financial institutions and the loss of public trust in the
financial services sector remains on the minds of many. Whether it
was opaque counterparty exposure, excessive leverage, insufficient
risk management, or a lack of corporate transparency, we now
know that these factors in combination led to the near collapse
of the entire global financial system. While the financial markets
have moved well beyond that terrible day in March of 2008, the
public trust of a very large sector of the global economy is still
severely marred due to continued bad behavior, lack of corporate
transparency, accountability and proper risk management, as well
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2007 isl Fargo, Rogor on Business Standards 2013 Walls Fargo, Payday Lending
2017 LP Morgan Chase, Proxy Voting 2012 Morgen Stanley, Transparency in the
2015 Bank of America, Separation of Chair & Repurchase Markets
ceo 2012 Bank of Americs, Internal Controls Related
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Standards 200 Sts Stet, Saparste hair & CEO
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Standards Financial System
2014 Viol Fargo, Report on Business Standards
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Cover Story
of the sins since 2014 have been driven by multiple expansion rather than
carnings growth. In this issue of Global Foresight, wo highlight potential
We examine emerging markets with Jimmy Chang focusing on Chins, and
aE article by Dr Mariels Vargova
The Charging Bull
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dig sbruply. Commer hess son on Lowes Buby 192050 1959, We belo th CAPE RD i co os Sci
Kon ss Ching Bl a sry srt hos nid ru i DUT le, post Ll Sug CS. lol Bass
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Commision by he City of New York mr ay or of i pes th cad of tho Rosia Tie tos oc ths dot ca,
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Stu wa inh wed ume Devs dy back on USELy BUDS thee 1.3 bac ote ubdacd Sonam covers
pine sen To fhe New York Such Exchange, 63 ve secsucy cxpSecaced fa the US races GDP guovrek
Tre hence was Fehon sero Amat di iin who cre. 194 N52 a5egiag about 20%, ts a he coonouny as ot
ed Chg Ai desmonsoee ho bef he regs of WAR th Gees ths 0 duck ust pons ths CAPE.
1 1S. ocomary afer the nck tare th 0 199, rs S10 BY COA uci ths 19008, US £0 GDP porto
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CAPE cation se: foes outside the US. wath cgi ase Ket hich acct for 39.0% of the MSC Faverging Mer-
Kits ves ver ts hot i dove rast, While we E15 InAs The grwth epee of tis gree appear sr
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tom son LS. ospartisuion we belies thee sped. BEC OUT 5 orate 28 235%, fs Topaletin growe
tance of CATE ston hon onspacing he vey dec dives TPH to be es than LI. The ern “Smerging market”
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alton fom 3000 et hooks bute on ay pla, hice IS have liad merged” The commie with he mest
wie cin aco CATE wa: cain ol wh, 1PGETY conaric gonah tcl wes seg hos
anayricg small markt, Nas xen spl, Busia as ih 030g, growing Sopeltions namely, loi, Indore
he owed CAPE rc i the wkd, bus ks oat ave fs 92 97 Male. Toure, hese comics heee smal. <q.
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Yesterday Once More;
Tomorrow Never Knows
Chira's housing boom once again lueled
global growin, bul how long wil il asi?
embossed rely irk
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mathemati, Vere is nus exas dy a right answer wach a AC az0uad the ane thet Amecica lebiased i Biceawmaial.
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wercantikist and physiocratic sconoic theories tat dogul- PHY
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nizing domestic production and exports, ad wis the bess os awcension was inde fore oy wrlsashing the energy and “he
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of Aurich icomenr he eden Fever pal 2th gest in te word Sow lr he Chin vee
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vidas] sell meres ne welfare of the greater society. oral wo seul ta Chins gouty skyrocketed, set prices
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honing markt ana oi npacton ees. onsnpion bargin tiv 0 rice in Ding. Sangh nd Sherzher,
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canpise, was attested on sccusations of bribery tw foiaes THOTY of dependant hmaed directo for large comparies.
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nrc of cist corpora ornare ues ands ick somites wiser. 2) allosing sharcioldeis of pacert
usualy Toe cll usin Goer indie ormpanies si dineturs of boii Times, 3 een
of he sound of Korean conlonnetes adhe sof outside Wil nesholds for ilies represses Lossuis, 1)
strstr nares. agen, sn wl o£ etd bg ian ctr
Recent research or. Kovean-listed companies shows strong 4d vumalative vuling
stati hese dependant direc aad mamaganea of Orsofthe eran biiousgals inelsespropossdsmandrests
Korean esngiomoriter. While 57% af hoa a1 in theory to Keres Moncpoly Registion nd Fur Trade Ac imducing
inependen, aly 7% mc when ors esis sail ies The constraints on chachel businesses £0 baring al. Sx
Composition ot Korean saseds al poses sons, +s the cierlar sere nets cf chacho thi these see
peentige of ditectors with HACE 07 FDAESACON {yg orb avernance reform in far were Fr public
Backgrornds brs decreed from 45.35 i 2004 254518 uid by chachel sharehalders tremalees, In 2015, a.
301 This hil he nmbet offer bi Sl und Marni ered et shes rr
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foverexingly. in Koco: boaccoons, the inckision of profssars. proved a new siwvernance cormeidse i siren en sensight
nd eras ndepopdet dors ur becorbe mmen T30 un accoetabili: Insn erprecedented fashion, their
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and monsroring of “Viith the 300ption of & SEwawsnip COUB, eps spats
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shill Voted sbidiarins mem mors then M6 the se tuto pobstios fo: aharholdrs. Uo eves
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Market Revi
A “Vixing” Puzzle 1 I Ces
Markers unis back of salatilily; Sontag ean
Be fearful when others are greedy fs sew)
ror hs ioriealls bor 1 sock mts
place = thecrash of 1639, 1987 Black Monday, samo se mm oa we
he Facial crisis of 2008, ee. This Gelober, lower, vac rare om mus
Ue were rly rats aud 0 ticks — the biggest oue day Hust zee® wo wows ee
meament for the SKP 5c Index craig the month wasa WED seem am mes
81% gain, ni the higeest dean day had a mere 047% TH OE NE
rap. That said, there was quite bil of irbulenos amon, <5 mm aa am
individual stocks. The Lnfoeation Tochuology sellin | XE: we Ws ae
buge wont vith the so ealled FANG stocks (Fac och. [rey
Amaze. Netflix, Google) eadimg the way up. whilesome = = ES ESSE EEE m
oi ecomomy belies nd the uch beleaguered hick oro re MEE
and imrtar relalers Lock a beating. The rising hope of 170 er > ity > ie
US tan evfores and the continued strcugth of Ue glotal 777 RIA 4
veonosmic expansion lifted U.S. Treasury yiells as well as siti i £
coummarity prices fron oil to copper. The 1.5. reflation |
espectation also boosted the. greenback. FGropean communes ™ PT.
<onercign bond yicids and the cum declined aher BCR gy pets a an am as
resin Draghd anounced a eduction in Woy SSL gp acy Tor bg
purases startlg in 2018, but prowised a Tonger gent ie wa wm
duration of QE. China completed ts cpiuquensinl 000 . ol
ett ph SR Lami ig i
Cress, which should usher in a new era wilh WORE oe ven i : r
focus othe quality uf grow lone Une anit. President oon "oo
Xi now awaits President Trump's Stare visit to Beijing on: EE —
Noswmber 4% Investors wil kel he formed on issues Gos te meoooem em
ranging fram made 10 Noth Koren, thongh major ou a ween am
neakthvoughs appear mikels. Lastly, here is Si One. rs civ ry 4 see wm aes an
resolve shper issue hal ay cou back 0d 1 igen forty un sa am mm
auarker — will a new bipartisas deal be reached in Heo agg ae, = w wm am
fond the U.S. government beyond December 82, swhenthe 0 os Wo um WE
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The Original Big Short Unfortunately. the concept of diversification prabably
The Amsiendam Sock change, founded by the Tuleh never crossed Jesse ming. Tesomehon managed o oss
East inca Company i 1602, recoguind us the workds ll is money anc was bankrupt by 1934. The bunkevny
oko onk exchange, I clare a secondary muckerto. result in an automat suspension af his membership
rac stocks an gave risa arcing clus Arn tha mid. on the Chirag Board of Trade, Tn 134, the lgendary
17 century where speculators would. congregate. trader, suring fom depression, shot himeel in the
Messangers would rush 1o and om the exchange ta cloak room of Manhattan's Sermy-Netherlund oe,
ndane pricing ta enstoniers.
Rise ofthe Machines
Tn 1867 the mention of hestark. | ‘Lc combination of clevated | sos things have chang from
ker machine, ale nan a the stor comnlacency anda | os Sper das when human
Licker tape, obviated the need for A were doing the Iading. Today,
sosugers Sk lnsachoudats | tightening Fed makes the | wilh the adveat of tochaology,
rat. | marlet vulnerable to a pulllick. | morte "7% = frmeatd bn
pint oul abbreviated company strategies. 11 is estimated thal
nares (Licker symbols) followed by the price and volume: Tundauental discretionary investors now account for oly
data. Thon Edison later upgraded te syste to reach 10% of the trading volume, Big inflow into wajor ETFs
a printing speed of oue cliuracter per second. Ticker tape. prowpted biving acrass the board regardless of company
eliminated the need for messengers and allowed peopleta specific issues and valations. Rig data and machine
Laden “realtime” rom long distance. Teaming an he eo Ws words orf eos Fetured
a ausul fund rn Uy eve bovaty somethings. Theis
101900, 14 your ol Jew Liston Livermore started ast andes saneget was the Tow u of millions
working 5. uetation hoard bin the Beton office of of dolar, et they sceraged 1 billion in transnctioms. or
Taine Webber. His job was ta update the hoor with 10,000 16 40,000 trades each day. Sino there are only
information cong off the ticker ape. Tle became 6,400 soon in da, sf would sencales rade
nlervsted iu We belivivr of steels prices and began. cw 2,16 to 8.4 sevonds if it worked around We dock,
seconling price movements that enabled him 10 apt Much of the deciion making and trad excakion, of
patterns prin to sizeable advances wd declines. A fellow cone, ns beentaken aver by ftwarealgoritn, These
office bes ater talked him into specnling am a hock on whiz kik employed satisienl arhiterge trading srstegies
margin ata bucket shop. Too days hte, Jesse sd the in socks aud curreacis. and <losod ul all Lrading
position wilh a $3.42 profil. Le svon quil his job aml positions at the cud of cach day.
started trading for a living.
“The allure of sophisticated computer models trowieing
Jesse made hi first $1,000 (aronnd 827,600 in today's their human eompetitors has confined to attract inflaw
dollars) at the age of £5. Le was later banned by mosk lo quant funds, IL is estimated thal quantilalive hedge
boule bps it Boston as nd toned sn of the Tudo aang sur tha $4 tellin about one ied
shal operators, By the age of 20, be lad aceurnlatd. of he $3 rilhon Hodge fund index, While here are
$10,000. Them cami th hig gray the ani of 107 ~ indent brillant quant. managers. whe have deivered
ding hich Jose shorted fhe marker and made $1 song rere long period af fime, th shear cre of
millon (525 millon in today’s dollar). Me moult 0p his. the industry means her are ety mone pretenders than
foot av Fo ip 0 the reputation se “The Geet Boar of ecules, Goes that say fonds <uaply salar
Wall Street” by shortmg, the market i 1920 for an strategies (5, rene following), a eversal inten cold
astounding $0 milhon profi (5143 Bllon fn 17, crea dip market MORAN, Nt 10 mention the
making Him one ofthe hast men nthe world. threat of me aime wreaking have on the market
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A“Vixing” Pursle allocation would even exceed 100% when the market's
Fauity solatlt has bosn unusually low far mucho 2017. realized solatfity is below the Largeted volatility. On the
The Volasility Inde (VIX), which measures the implied other hand. 2s volatibty ticks up, the exit allocation
oar of SK 500 luckes options and has been viewed wonid be scaled hack.
a5 a harometer af equity marker slafilty. has drifted 10
all-time lows. Over a <pan af more than 7.000 sessions Whike [hese strategies have enfoyet strong retums during
going back Lo the start of 1690, the VIX Indevs average this SUrvieh of progavssively Tower cquity volatility, they
and median losing values have come ov 101. ated 17.6, may be planting the seeds of a market coreeion. Market
tespremvely. I vas 4 Tare aocortence for the VIX fo makers and dealers on the other side of the growing short
oollapss. helo 10 — there were ais neh occasions ont VIX rades som nese 10 employ varias S&P sacs option
0 6:802 trading sessions prior 10 2017, or 0.13% of the strategies o hedge heir kang VIX positions. There is the
lines. Year-to-date 6 2017, howe, ere were akeady concert ata decline in Une S&1° 500 Unde vould Uigger
sessions with Ue VIX closing below 10, aljostiuculs to Unse Liolging positions Wal. world
exacertite the mar et decline. Similarty. should volatiity
Anather vay to lak at fh ack of wait i fo tally the. sudden spike wth aforementioned solafility oontrol
number of trading sessions when Ue SSP goo Indes had strategies would be culling 6quity expasires
a daily lige of more Ursa 4% i ilher direction. There concurceatl, which could anuplily Ue market decline
mee only 8 sucks seasons so fae is 2017, compel 16 48 stuart the dovaard selling pressure Laat Une 50
and 72 seh occasions in 2016 ud 2015, respectnely. calls portfolio insurance products generated during he
crash of 1987. We wonder if any investors and reglators
Laces ironic that the market should be tis steady with uly appreviale how Unese strategies, in conor will
arguably Uw most wereurial aud uscowntional vasious raid fixe Urades gencrated by mackine-learuiug
president in modern bistory at the hd atop he free based abyorithuus. ould itupoct warlet movement wad
world. Petiutps investors hue grown ub to all the liquidity should there be an exogenous shock. Only time
choos and controversies. 11 is as if Washington's willtell
dysfunction and a divided America wore just fodder for
ae ivperscutilaing wedin, and warkuts were beliniog Fees, Greed
as i all will Le oe when the Kepubheans pas the tax There is an adage that one should be fearful when others
reform to prive the pump for the 2018 midterm are greedy and geeedy hen orhers are fearful. Judging by
elections. Time will tel this period of eerie cali 3s the depvassed levels of the VIX Indes, the enthmsiastc
prescient or isguided. speculation over bileoin as well 45 ollet varias of
enpuocterencics, wd sures al indicated strong
Unintended Consequences imvestrient sentiment, it is dear that greed bias bees on
The decline in market volatility has made shorting against the riae. Can this euphoria continue fara while longer? Of
the VIX fufwes and varias VTX FTPs (exchange-rraded conse. Hawever, in anr apinion, the combination af
products) quite populac and profile in roceol years. dlevated investor complceaey and a Ughioning Fed
The nel short position on YX fotuees lus progressiely wabes the warlat voluerable to a pullback. though the
climbed to nev highs over the last couple of years. fing of it is hand 1 predict. The sforementioned sues
Anather phenomenoit was the rise af “yoltilfy control” ith varions trading strategies could further ad fuel fo
investment seatesies, spposadly frvared by many hedge fire in the event of 4 market decline. Tat sid. with the
funds and insurance companies. These stralegies in macro and earnings backdrop remaining positive, we
essere adjust a portfolis allocation betwen equity asd would view potential selloff as & buying opportunity
cash to sunintait a targeted. level of volasility af the rather than the stat of a promacted market donnie,
portlin level. In an environment of declining volatility:
Tore a5cets wold be allocated to aqities — fhe eqite
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BRADLEY J. IDWARDS, individly,
and LM, individually,
Defeudauts.
COMES NOW the Defendant/CounterClairunt, BRADLEY TDWARDS, hy and
thaough bis undersigned counsel, and berehy les the uliached transcript of the elephone
intesview of Virginia Robes to supplemeat the proffer made in support of Counter. Claimant's
Motion For Lesvo to Amend to Assert Punitive Dimes.
THEROBY CERTIFY that « true and correct copy of the forcgoing bas been famished by
1.8. Mai to all Counsel on the attached list on this __£ 7. day of May 2011.
Tuck Semok 7
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Notice of Filing Supplement
COUNSEL LIST
Jacke A. Goldberger, Esquire Martin Weinberg, Fquire
jgoldberger@agwpa com: Martin Weinberg, I"C.
smahoney(@agwpa.com 20 Park Plaza, Suite 100
Atterbury. Goldberger & Weiss, A. Suffolk, MA 02116
250 Australian Avenue South, Suite 1400 Antomeys for Jeffrey Epstein
West Pulm Reach, FI. 33401
Phone: (561)-659-8300
Fax: (561-635-8691
Attorneys for Jefiiey Epstein
Taio, Tall, Weissing, Edwards, Fistos &
Lehroum, PT.
425N, Andrews Avene, Suite 2
For. Lauderdale, FI. 33301
hone: (954)-524-2620
Fax: (954) 524-2422
Attormoys for Joffrey Epstein
Joseph I. Ackerman, Ir. Esquirc
Ja@lowler-whitc.com
Tawler While Burnet, P.A.
901 Phillips Paial West
7778 Flagler Drive
West Palm Beach, TL 3401-6170
Phone; (S1)-502-9044
Fux: (361-202-9976
Atoms for Jeffrey Fpstein
Mare §. Naik
‘mare@nuriklass com
Law Offices of Mase 5. Nurik
One E Browaud Biv, Sulte 700
Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301
Phun: (954)-745-5849
Tax: (954)-745-3556
Attorneys far Scolc Rathséein
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PRIVILEGED PURSUANT TO I'S 766.205(4) and/or WORK PRODUCT
TELECON
BRAD EDWARDS
'VIRGINTA ROBERTS
RE: Edwards adv. Epstela
291874
DATE: April 07,2011
18: Virginio, Jack Soarols and Brad Bawestds
BE: Hi Virginin,
ve Hi Jack! ili Brad! How you guys doing?
JS: We're doing fine, thauk you. I'm somy for all of hs trouble and hefurs we ga any
furdher, let me tefl you, if | have your permission, 1 have started a tape rocorder und 1
want 10 be able to tape this convarsation fiom the very begining. Is that alright with
you?
vi Sure, that's fine, Jack. No problem:
8: Ok, ood, thank you. I appreciate that, Let mo start off by introducing mysclf. 1 know
that Brad has spoken to you about me but { am Brad's lawyer, and 1 assume that you can
confirm that you and | have never had any communication before. Ts thal right?
vi Lhat's corroct.
JS: AWight, T hueve, however, golien same information from Brad about conversations that
you have had with him, and that will enable me, hopefully, to male this a little bit moro
efficient and aie up minimum amount of your time while stil petting the informetion
that we think is going to be hotpful to us and to any jury that might ultimately have fo
car those facts.
So, let me begin by usking vou firs! (a tefl us what your fall name is.
Vv: He Louise Roberts. That's my oaiden name. My married name is Virginia Loniso
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Pes20f23
75: Could you spell your last name for us? That is your mamicd last name:
ve
I$: Atright, thank you, and where are you living right wow?
¥: Tlive in Australia,
JS: And how long have You resided in Austollia.
Vi Phisismy 20" year,
18: That is where you are right now, comet? We've reached you in Australia for this phone
conversation?
Vv: “That is courcet, yes.
JS: And what lime in it in Australia right new?
Vi Lthink it's abour 9:00 now.
JS: Ok. That's 9am, correct?
Vi Than vome
JS: Alright, Virginia, the reason for this conversation is because itis aur widerstanding that
vou know a man by the name Jeffiey Epstein, and | want to begin by asking you please t
cll ws about the cireumstaecs of your first mecting Ms. Epstein.
Vi Ok 1 was introduced lo Mr. Tpsiein hy Ghisleine Maxwell. Twas working at Donald
“Lramp’s spa ia Mar-a-Lago and I was peompled by Ghislaine to come wo Jellrey’s
mansion in Palm Beach that afiemoon after work to make some extra mone wid to learn
about massage. Sho met me at hs spa, aud 1 vas reading a book about anatomy; 50 1 was
already interested in massage therapy us JC was and nol having sny of the cduostion or
you know snything behind me, 1 thought this wus a great upportanity Go sork for ber and
20. So, { viem 10 Jeffrey's mansion abou 3 or f in the allernoon. My dal drove me
tere. My dad worked at Mar-a-Lago with me, and he met Ghiskaine aiid she seemed tke:
4 nico. proper English lady, sad she knows. 1 mean, you know, ono time thea _once
‘before Toft to frevel overseas, Se just ssomed really nice and like sho would like £5 help
me out. Soy dad left, snd Thad no problem gelting home thai night, enc of her drivers
would take me hack afler my trial. So she led me upstairs, und inlo JelBey’s bedroom,
and past hat s Jeffrey's massage roam, which fas wot is tsam rar and shower od
a massage table, and there is actually an extra room that has, that nobody lov about it
it's kinda like a scerct oom and it's got a whole bunch of decorative pictures of
prmigruphic leraiure and sex toys aod Tem _ 7 shat happenod in there,
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Tengbue evan wil Vigra Kobets
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JS: When you say thatthe xoom wes hidden, Virginia, Low vars the room concealed?
Vi Itwasn't like a door that you would nomnally go into, like some kind of special vpening,
‘you open that and then a litle door, so it looks like ivs a lide closet wo-ta-speak, hut
when you walk in fhere, i's obviously a lot bigger than just a closet. IL wasnt 00 big,
but it was bigger, you know, Ti wasn't a gigmtic som, it was just like a small room,
which you know, it probably cauld Gt sme shoes in there, it iad racks of shocs, boxes,
same sweatshirts neatly folded, and the ceiling by the Boor was covered in pornographic
picturcs of the girls that he bad met
18: When you say...
Vi So anyways, that was geting there, und | was intaduced to JeMlrey, he was Tying nuked
ou top of the massage table, and obviously for ane, Um a 15 sear old girl and seeing him
on the fable was weird bu, also leaming about anatomy and message, | thought this
would be purl ol iL. So abiously. Thought it was part of The massage program, so | said
ok, this is Fine. And, he then insiruied me on hos b touch the hudy, Joffroy's body.
how to massage him, und for the first haur, it Was actually a real massage, maybe nal a
hour, rsybe like 40 minutes oc somethiag, but of something fike that _and that’s when he
‘wmed aver on the other side and to expose himself fully. So then Ghislaine told me hat
she swunted me to undress and ben to toke off my shirt and skirt, my Wwhito uniform
rom Mar-A-Lago, sho also took of her shirt and got wdressed, aud so { was there with
just my undies an, wd she was completely bare, amd nde some kind of litle fake sont
‘the undersvear that | was wearing, because it swasm’t ty normal sexy girl underwesr and
just like. | don’t know, had red hearts on it or something like that; ust your normal, you
know, real cute underwear. Anyways. so dur alf of this I'm kind of ike what's going
on, how do Tact, what do © say, { was so afiaid of, not afta or feauful for my lis buc
_unsare of haw ull (his skied and wanting to obinin 4 profession_ I was so aftaid
thinking about upsetting and disappointing them, 1 don’t know, it’s a weird situation by
far aud | was expected to _Lick his nipples, instructed on how 10 do 50 by 1Ti_ and give
im oral. sex while bc wanfod to fondle me, and then at the end, 1 was told by Giislaine to
gol on top and straddle Jofiey sexually, and when wo vxe donc, we went and bad a
shower in the rium and Jelfrey KI me to wash him up and dow. yon know with a bar
of soap and take sure he wus all cleaned up. And then he tak me dounshirs sd ok
me to ow of the guards and told John to being ine home. John was the butler ut the time.
38: Lol me jurermupt you for just a moment there if I could, Virginia. You mentioned as sou
ware recounting those dell tut you were 15 yoers old af the time. What is your date of
birth?
Vio Augustd® 1983
18: And can you lel us plosse, as bos! you're able to estiute it, what the date was when Urls
first encounter occurred?
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Telephone servi wi Virgin Kubert
Pag dof 23
Vi I've gotit waitten down, 16s lke - Tm nol good sith rath — hold on — 1 though 1 wrote
it down but T didn't. T'm not tn sure, | (ink it was 1998 off the top of my head and
around June of 1998, T would say as I was turning 16 at the end of the summer.
18: Alright, You talked bout the room where Jeffiey hud the pomaggaphic photographs.
Did vou sctally sce thst room om the occasion of your rst visit there?
Vi No 1 got to see Dia room a few visits after but § was fust trying to doscribe that oom fo
You guys so you knew exactly what room | vies talking sbant.
3S: Another question for you, and I don’l meun a be prying into sour personal life, aod if |
yous um questions ut all thal you're uncomfortable answering, then you fust tell me
that and we'll move an, because | appreciate your cooperation aad the fist | hing I vant
m do Is impose wpon that cooperation, but can you tell us plese just generally what kind
of sexual cxpericaice you had had prior to this eonlioniatian sith Jeffrey?
Vi Verh, sure. A chose fil friend hes sexually abused me, and I was on the strsts at 13
yeurs old. | was picked up by 2 67 year old man named Kan Eppinger who did cxacly
hat Jeffrey did with me abuse and violto my youthfulncss _ & Twas with him fur 6
months. So, bic was gone and then 1 had (his boyfriend who vias ike my sehaol lriend
from young deys but we just kepl in contac with each otber and we were on and off
constantly, and that was Tony Figsroua_, und thers was also another younger guy was
near my aye, Michael, T can’l reanember his lsc name, but yeah, there, 1 mean, there
wast ike a tring of men or anything, but there was Ron, like 1 told you, and be was tho
first guy expecting me to do so-called disgusting nffirs, Joffrey actually knew Ran,
hich was quite weird when I told Jefffey fhe story about Ron, und Jeffrey ad actually
ct hiro, and yeah Auysway, just smother story, and yeah, here were a couple of men,
ul thal gives you um idee.
18: Now when you described the photographs in the room as pomogrphic. (cll me just 4
litle bit about the photograpls, if you wonld please? Find, how many af them were
there?
Vi Atlewy 100, and like | said. they covered the room from the ceiling, uot the ceiling but
rom the top of the edge of the wail o the bottom of the floor. I want to say at lost u
hundred. even morc, there could have been more in the boxes Some af tem wers 44_
Photographs. lk the large size. some af make] samen pong, sa hiusw, positions, Rex
positions. Others were, you knaw, some girls had bikinis on, and it wast so
pamogsuphic, hus iL ws all wimen, and it was all in a sexual oanure.
18: Were there photographs swhere more than ous person appeazed?
Vi Ob yeah, plenty of hem. There ware Tots vf asked photogruph, 1 mean T wis just tréing
0 give yoru visual range. There was anything from 5x6s to 48s 10 8x45. Some of them
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‘had frames, some of them were our of frames, but they were all, like T said, they were all
omen, they ware all soxual in nature,
JS: Was it your fmpression thal there were a bundred photos of a hundred different people or
were thers multiple photos of the same woman of girl?
¥: there was defuitely a lot of differcal gis. 1 mewn it wasn'l easy a sit there and say,
you wert finding 5 girls out of same: Phalos, i, Were thece 2 hundred different ones?
There could have heen pictures of’ some girls, | really conldn’t pet close necessarily to
actly recognize faces or anything like that. But if you, you know, the rungs of them
were all diffecent, majority of them vere differen, yoah.
JS: Did there over come a onl in lime when vou becarae aware that a photopcaph of you
Thad heen udded to the collection?
Vi Yes, there was. Ghislale took several nude plotogrepbs of me for Jeffrey. So, yeah,
there were pictures of me wnd fhare were pictures, he wasn't shy, that wasn’t the only
‘pli in Bis house hl be kept he photos. [le tiked photos alf over bis house. If you
Taaked in his den ar en his desk ar in on the ball table, agian Lall fable in his bovse.
there were at east a hundred. photos of giss in frames. Not all of then wore asked, lof
of the ones that were all around his house wero nol nsked girls posing pornwgrephicalls,
Some wea pictures of celebrities apd politciums he hak knawsn_or things lke tha or bad
pants on or whatever, but yoah, thore was a lov of mixed photugraphs in the outside anes.
IS; Were there eny photographs of girls or sous women that you knew or that you
subsequently came to know that you saw in the house?
Vi Yeah, yoab, there was, There was pictures of Nudin Bjoumik______, pictures
Soni Keke, pictures Emmy, pices of me, pictur of the rexilars, bl & 1o¢ of the
girls, sometimes TefTrey could have like 7 girls a day, aud be would ouly sce thos girls
mez if be got bared. 1 don’t know. “Lhese weren't my days. | hod he's goilen + Jou
Sloppier since 1 Left. So, L don kuow anyways, but when 1 knew bi, there was jus, it
sectmed. there was such an influx of gils coming in und aut, so did T recognize a Lot of
them? Maybe, maybe not, but then they were ull definitely beautiful, they were ali
xovging in ge, same af them young, sore of them older in their 2073, 1 mean it was just
They wens all beatiful.
J5: Yowve told us about the first visit, Was there suy discussion on the aceusion of that first
visit about your returning?
Vi Vos, they were very plewsed with me and after the encounter was finished, the sexual
encounier, he went and wid me | did veil and I fave a lot of potcatial fo become a
massage therapist and if 'd like 1 could return tomorrow, you know, and do the sume
thing and get paid $200/kx. so Jeffrey insisted that | come after warh, and ver the fest
forv days, 1 gus the relationship gro info more, and within a couple of weeks, not even
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1 couple af weeks, muyhe a week, 1 had quit Mar-2-Lago and [ was working for Joffrey
{ull time.
IS: OF lets talk sbout your job at Mir-a-Lago, if we could. Yau said that your Dad was
working there, Whi. was is position ul Mar-a-Luga?
Vi Tle vis a maintenance supervisor | think is what it vas called? Ho like managed the
tens courts aud air condiriouers and things ike that,
18: Whats your Duds full nome?
b:3 Sky William Raberts.
J8: Andis he still living bere in South Flarida now?
vi No, he’s noi, he's in California.
18: Ok Is your Dad awae of what is curmcutly goivg on with regard th your having made
‘public statements about your relationship with Jeffrey?
Vi Yew he in eli cue oF iL 1 told my family even before all this stuff came our, because
hey were the fiest ones contacted by the journalists from Mail on Sunday. know that
they the Mail on Sanday printed that | had gon our aud tod to, T mean F think on of the
‘photos sald that | was angry that save Jofitcy aud the Prince walking together and tha is
“iy | came out and went public wilh everylhing. Not true. | mean, 1 am angry ubout
how they are sil] vp fo heir old ways gether und (hat treg”re Stil Banging out but 1
didn’t contac the Mail on Sanday and [ dida’t bring it ot. | figured that everyone was.
wong t bring i out anyway and 1 better bring it out the right way, He's known
everything fiom the stat, and my family is very supportive with overyéhing goin an.
8: I'm kind of going to jump sound a Tile hil und. agologize for wat, bus since the subject
Ts worme up, 141) me first uf ull why you are providing this cooperation to us, and | am
certuinly very appreciative of it, but | want you to tellus why it is you've chosen 0 spend
time with us on the telephone and provide this information that you're now providing,
Vi Pmout to help the bigger pichire, you know, T think all of us can make a big diffecence in
a lol of other people’s lives and T think that this has gone on long enough and it's a biz
slap in my fae Ua he can gel away vic hurting me so bad let aloge so mou other girls
and laugh about it. | guess | talked to you guys out because 1 want to sco the right thing
happen, not just to him, but 1 want poopic in the world lo understand this js not the wy
of life, You know, i's 10t acceptable to 0 out procure young girls und make them think
that, this is the way you should be fiving and thut's wll. Yeah, [ guess my reason for
doing il is Io help the bigger pure, you know, Tin a big befiever in karma and | believe
ha goo things vill come back 0 You, 50 1 guess that's why I'm doing this.
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Bawasta acy. Epson
Telephone nsevivw wih Vigiia Rohens
Pugs Tol2t
38: Just forthe recur, neither Brad, tor |, nor anyone representing that they have anthing to
do with os has ade any promises to you. [5 that corcect?
Vi “Thats comet. Ll ell you, sines this is our first conversion, thal nobody has ude me
fool Tike I'vo boon bribed ar boxagbt or hud 1 say smything. I've wkd you anything that
Know from my own self, nol some hings somedy told me. If anything, Brad's been
extru careful not 10 tell me anyching and let me do afl the talking, so iv’s quite opposite L
think.
IS: Alright, Let's get back then fo tho wory of your relationship with Jeflres, and we've
talked ubout your (iv encounter with its and howe it evolved from that ato our fui
ime emplaymen with Jeffrey, bu what were you doing at Mar-a-Lago before you quit
Mara-Lago!
Vi Iwas just a locker room ltendunt and sometimes [did habysitiog for the dich and
fimo. So, 1 wisn’ any hing big. | worked in Ue pa area. ‘That's why L was studing
ato, because | as really realy interested in becoming a massago erapist and at
the locker room, I dida’t do much. 1 mean I was waking tes for a living, I would, you
now, make sure the toilet paper had a litle triangle in it ler overybody went Lo the
file, or wipe down the waler (rom the basin, Yau kno, it was a very easy peasy job.
8: Did you ges tha job thrvueh your Dad?
Vi Ves, my Dad pot me the job.
IS: Ok, tad you vicre only 15 years 13d rf the time, were they avare of how ald you were ul
Mir-a-T ago?
Vi Of course, deflaitely. We fad to go through extousive, you kuow, we cveu had to got
drug tested aud id test and so on and so forth. 1 mem, Mantas (7) is very siice on
employment, yeah, everybody knew.
TS: Ok. Was there ever wy conversion with Ghislaine about how old you were before you
were taker to Jeftieys mansion?
Vi No. She didn't nsk me hows old T was from tho srt, bul when 1 did gel 10 Jefliey's
‘mansion, it was iscresscd how old T ws.
IS Wilh whom?
Vv: Dung the entire hour of what I call the Legitimate massage J was giving him, il wis ca
and mowsc games getting information from me Go find out who 1 wn, zm 1 a willing
‘participumi in Mee kind of Tings, and how would react if hey were shout w ake the
ext sep. Bul they gol information olT of me, they got ny age. they got my, a litle bit of
‘my history so they kis vias, yo know, not very stable at home, and they kw that,
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elephone nes iow wilh Vii Heit
Pugs tof2l
you know, 1 was sctually intorested in meking my Jil eter by studying > what they
ere offering me wos a chance tn became o legitimate masseuse bul it was geting
trained They viould have peaple shaw me how to work the body and be called a
massage therapist and get me bool on it, and you kuow, koop we interested, and cvery
tine, you know, [was with Jeffrey, licrally was about toassages, J dom'l mean just going
in and have scx with him. 1 mean massage, beens it would ulways sta aut with
‘masmge and then it would Jd into sometimes ofher things.
8: Alrghit, ance this evolved into full time cunploanent. what did full fine cuploymenr
mea?
Vi Thal was entirely having to travel with Jeffrey in every city. When he was in Pulm
Thea, | stayed al my apartment, and he would call me © bis house once or tice a day
sometimes, and that’s, you know, do things with him. Sornctimcs vis’ go out shopping,
somctimes vic'd go out aud watch a movie. You knavw. simple things Hk tbat, £0 to an
capo or & fiir. whitover it was, Bui when we were in alher cities, T was a my
spartment_, Ulived with bir full me. What | mean by full ime is even in the middle of
he night, Tcould set u ing on my phone 12x to me and tell me to como In bis room, you
kano, so it was lieaally ful time.
IS: When you say Ul when you sere in Palm Theach yau were fing in your upartmenl,
wre you living an your own or were you living with members af your funily ar thal
time?
¥: No, after | quit Mara-Lago, Jeffeey offered to get me an aparcnt in Palin Beach
somewhere, Royal Palm Beach, and it was a nos apartment. He farmished it for me, it
ens absolutely besutiful, bul yeh, that’s the only time 1 would spend fime way from
Fim relly.
35: this apartment was on Royal Palm Beach Boulevard or ont inthe Villsge of Royal Pai
Beach?
¥: Tso hanostly dan’ remember. Ve heen trying lo mck sy brain because the TRE was
aking the sume thing ind were trying Ww find it, but yeah, Tn Not sur. 1 didu’t get to
spend as much time in it, | was only there about an entice weak out of every month
probably, bu the majority of the time § was with Yoffiey anyways. It was somewhere in
Royal Palm Beach. T don't know about Royal Palm Beach drive. Tdan't even remomber
the Royal Palms Buch drive sinymoro so Tm i doo sure.
JS: OK, tet me see it can drave the distinction for you and maybe that wilt help sou 10 betp
us? Road Palin Beach is a village thats...
Vi No, no, uo, I got Royal Palm Beach, just didn't know fhe Royal Pulm Roach Drive, like
shu street it's ofT of. Were you talking aout a sireel?
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Telsphone interview wid Virginia Roberts
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I: Yes, L was talking about a stroct. Royal Palm Drive is on Ibe ishind of Palm Reach, and
is a stot that is lined with Jorge royal pam frogs, ane I'm wemdering iF his was an
‘apartmacut on the islund or wan this an wpartment uk west of own...
Vi No, it wise netually in Rayal Palm Beach, not on the island.
18 Aight
WV: Towauld be driven, it sis closer to my family than it was closer to him. L wanted to be
clase enough 10 everyhods’ else so that when | was i town. 1 could just go sce thee
quickly.
JS: Ok. So we're not talking shout Royal Palin Boulevard. We're tatking about the tova of
Royal Palm west of town. Jefliey got you an apectment out there.
i; “Ihat's correct.
IS: When he was in Palm Peach, you were generally oot staying at the mansion, you vere
staying at the apurtment that he 20k (ar Sou out vest of town.
Vi has correct.
5 Ok
EL T men then there was Limes, | don’t wanna say that every time | sayed at my apaitment.
“There wis times we'd fly back from some city maybe too late at night to really want to
£0 back home, 50 you kuo, it's like 12:00 «t aight or 1:00 in the morning, 1 was just
Staying in the yellow room. o somthing ike that; ane of the guest rooms in Pulm Deach.
But majority of he ime, E vwould definitely wast fo get back my 04h apartencidt.
IS: Alright. What were the general hows of your ful tune eraployment when ...7
Vi Lhe was not sot hours. It wasn’t like logging. and you kiow, billing the shill hutton,
nothing like that. The way T wuld get uid wauld be, ab, if T was in Palin Beach, 1
ould et S200 sn hour Uy massage Tellrey of some of his fiends and then go Lome. So
iLwuld be ike that. TIT wes traveling with him, it would be per massage, so 1 would be
geting paid per day. So | wouldi’t be geting paid on an howdy rate. He wouldn't say
ok, today you're going to work for mc from 7:00 in the momivg mil 8:00 ul nighi. Ji
‘never liko that, Twos on call ll the time.
JS: When you were here in Palm Beach, were You actually getting paid only for the time
spent massaging Jefliey or were you getting paid from your aurival at is house until you
eft the bouse?
Vi From the tims the massage starled.
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Telephone inlerview wilk Virginio Roberts
Pe 100125
1S: From the fimo the missago started, Ok
vv Sometimes we'd go there and T would wail for a while or tlk with Ghislaine and Jeffrey
about something or we'd mest somewhere and wk shout somthing, A lob of times, I'd
‘meet him upstairs in his room where he was ready for me. But then there was a lot bl
mos whero if didn't start right away, so ho coukdit really pay me from he time | gat
there sameimes unless it wis just paid from the tine [ massaged bin fi the timo the
massage was over.
JS: Alright, Did your doties for Jeffiey ever inchde anything other than providing him
masmges and sex in connection with the massages? Did he ever give you any ofher
responsibilities 1a perform?
Vi Lvias asked 10 do the same things hat | did to JelTrey wa few of is fellow cofleaguss as
well, Those were my duics. He fooked at it this way is that 1 wast going to be u
Professional massage theampist und maybe { nccded some clicatele, so b had me perform
erotic musges on a fo people.
1S: Did that starr hewe in alm Beach County?
Vi Iedid. Tho firstono did.
IS: 0%, und how Tong sltcr you first met Jeffrey did he first ask you to provide services for
one of his riceds?
Vi About 9 mouths, Thnk it was. 1 wasnt a full year, it wasn’t 6 months, bul beeen 6
anihs and year, which is why Y'm saying 9 months.
48: And when sou provided services 1o u friend of Toffrey's, who paid you for those services?
Vi Jofficy would. I would get paid the next time | saw Jefftey, so if I way invited 1o the.
Breakers Hofal fo give a massage, L would give a massage. [would go home, and the next
duy when T saw TelTrey, he would pay me for what L did. So, it was paid always by him,
Twas sel up by him, xo he slays knew shal fo pay me, © id got tips aud things like
the, if you call it that, you know, like u hundred doll tip or something from & few of
them, you know, yeah,
IS Wasthere,
Vi There was aiwags pasment frum Jeffrey.
JS: Was thre cvor any discussion with Jefirey about what was expected to happen when sau
provided massage services to one of Jeffrey's friends?
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Vi Inn roundabout way, ses. In so many vias, Jellvey really really had to train me, und tl
wos why Ghislain seid tat she and Joffiey oujoyed ae 50 much vas because thes never
really ad to sperk much me to tell me what thoy wanted 1c to do. You kaow, |
wast waiting or you know, ther directions. Joffrey would tel) me go give an erotic
massage to friends.” He wouldn't ive mae mich detail about i, but he would say t treat
them like ou treat me.
I8: Did he refer it as ao cof massage or are hose your words?
Vi Erotic massage is my words. ‘That’ exactly what il wis, but he would tel me fo rot
them how he wanted it, 50 I'd do shat he wanted without having 10 uy fo me words
more. ¥ moan, T canyliod vith what he wanted because it was somessbat of a, & dun’t
Xow, 1 don't keoww how fo say i, if was just very mindbogaling how 1 fet him have so
much control or power aver me basically. The msssuges would be routine to what Jeffrey
and with my so called new clientele, ad with tei own wards wookd ask me 10
‘provide them with sexual pleasure afer the massage.
JS: Did you ever repart buck Io Telly shout what happened when you provided massages to
his friends?
Vi OF caurse, of couse, and I knew chat his friends were reporting back 10 im a well
‘beau Shere ware times where he would instigate convarsation by saying you know, sa
ani #0 had a great time. you did wonderful, you know so and so gave me a call and told
IT How it wen.
IS: Did Jofey ever elicl details (om you? “Tell me what hagpened, describ in detail what
went on?
Vi No, hut be would have » Tasgh, hie had a Legh with me a fo times about some of their
diffrent manaerisims, T guess you wauld say, like some of them, one guy hed a foot
fetish and that vias really weird aud T mentioned it lo Jelrey, und we weld hove a liugh
over it. He didn't want fo know details. He wast asking me “50 tel} me shal did you
guys da cxactly.” No, hic just basically gave me a slap on the back and said, you kiow,
gd job. And ve hud some kind uf conversation abou it, 1 can't recall any conversation
off the top Foy bead. really don, kw ous, 1's been that long. Bat yeah, we did
talk about iv briefly.
J8: Com you give me an estizaate as 10 the mumber of fiends for whom Jefirey provided und
aid Tor your services?
Vi There was abaut, you know, | don't know, 8 guys posinly
8: Aud sic you able to name those people for me?
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Vi No, not af this stags. | just, Some of these peaple ate really influential in puwer, und
don't wan to start another shitstors with a few of therm. I'LL tell yom that there was some.
erotic massages given fo, I'm just afraid to say it to you.
Is: Ok, Vieginia
Vi Ts)iko geez, Xdon'tkuow if T want fo, Xm really scared of where this is gonna go.
1S: Aight | understand thal, und us T told you from the beginning, if 1 ask you a question
that You are uncomfortable answering, sou just tell me that, amd Twill move on, and {
understand that at least right novi, You are ancomfortabe answering, und | ann cerluinly
going to respect that,
Vio Thank gous much, Tack.
38: No, that's quite alright. 1 am very appreciate of the cooperation you are providing, and [
don't sean! you at any time to feel that we are taking unfii advantage of that cooperation,
a give me the information thal you's comfortable giving me, and if we get 10 a point
sehere you're unc lrtule, [will respect that amd we'll mave on fom there.
Vi Ok
Js: Twamt to talk a Tito bit about the traveling that you did with Jeffrey. About how lang.
into sour relationship with him did that ust start?
Vio luediately. 1 sarted traveling immediately. Nol intermationally unbl T think about,
Gosh, | can’t seumeriber even, | think ic was a Year law that we siarted doing international
avd, Misbe [ike 9 wontbs to a year agala. Not too sure to bs hoaest.
J8: So that would have been approximately the summer of 1995? Somewhere around therc?
Vi Yes. Somewhere around there. Somewhere around a year, samewhere wound there, T
con't pinpoint it cxactly., But like | said, we smarted doing domestic traveling
immediately, so my first destination with him was New York and Santa Fe and the
Carribean, California, T sould lake (ips with bir occasionally. Sometimes we would go
10 SL Louis or New Orkeuns or Santa Crus. We were tmveling just aboot everywhere 1
think
IS: How did you tomvel?
Vi Well, we took Jelliey's private joi, and umless 1 was being sont somawhere by myself for
wiht we were just taliking about before, then 1 woul travel on a what do you cell, 8
public jer, whatever itis...
IS: commercial Sight?
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Vi Yes. Justa normal flight, au e-ticket
TS: Tike the rest of us cammon folk.
Vi Burwhen | vias waveling with Jefikey, the majority at the te would be on the black et.
J5: Naw. when you say thers would be times when you would travel by yourself because be
was weding sou somewhere, tell me about thal, How did that come sbout?
Vi So, one of iis colleagues would be at the Carribean or Sana Fe of even New York, or
‘wherever, and he would call me up on those days where [am not working with hin of in
Palm Beach with him, and ho would ask me fo got on the next plane 10 so aad so and go
meet 0 umd x0, und thal" when T sould take e-tickets. His secretary ur special ssant,
whatever, weld organize iL fr me and give aie the details and | ould just walk up the
line and they"d fet rae righ through.
I8: Cum you give mo any ideas as 6 how pany limes it happened that Joffiey would seud
‘youll’ meet some friend ois al same location uli of Palm each?
Vi llow many times it happened? I'm not 100 sure. Probably about 10-15 times.
3S: Ok. Aud on thoso occasions, how much tine would you spend with one of Jeffrey's
Hicads when you were scat w a location that you would bev to tuavel to?
Vi Only a couple of dass. Only 2 days, thats il
JS: And bow were you paid for those tips?
Vi Twould be paid in eash upon ny arrival buck with Jeffrey. So, whenever [ wes back with
Jefe, he vould count up how tuny days I"ve bid, sametimes give me ven more tn
what] deverve, at deserved, but what | eared and ive ioe lite extra
I8: Was there a daily aie for thos rips or was that per massage also?
Vi Per massage. With Jelliey, Twould be honest. Todds’ toll him T did 15 massages if 1
didn't. Tle knew he could 10st we. Te could always come buck the other person thal
he seat me To give massages and usk thea as sel, 50 you know, it sas aways by per
massage.
3S: Alright. When we've heen bafking about massages. el] we exactly what it is we're
ling ahout when we speak boul massages
V: Same thing I would do to Jeffrey. Again, it woud start out as a massage, which would
start with them being naked. 2nd sno giving him a legitimate massage to begin with, so
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Td start with his feet, go 1p to bis calves, up his legs, buttocks, buck, bis nck, bis head,
his ams, yada yada. aud then it would bo time to flip over, and some a the men wand
want rac o coutinue on rasssiging the front wide of them und they would instigate me
begin having sox with them ar replay, whitever you want o call it
JS: Sooutinely, these massages involved sexual activity. Is tha accurate?
Vi Thats sccurate,
JS: Ok. Let's talk about the vavel that you were involved in when you were on Joffiey’s
private plane. Generally speaking, who were the passengers on the plane shen you
traveled.
Vi Well, Lamy was the pifol, und then here was a short, small solid pus, | don’t know bis
mame, but he was a co-pilot, and hen be changed and there vias another guy brought in
Tater on. Generally speaking, there was always Jefiley, sometimes Ghislaine, somelincs
Euany, sometimes a whole bunch of othr girls, sometimes fimous peaple, sometimes
somo politicians or yeah. ust shout anybexly could My on his plane. There was never
any sel routine sho would come and who would go. It wes an influx of people on
TefTreys uirplane.
J8: | want t deal with theso things separately in order to respect same af the reservations
that you have, 0 I'm going to ask you who the people vicre that you remember Nying
with Jefey on bis plane when you were personally present vithaut regs 1 whether
hor ys any scx etvaty thu overran the plune or nut. Sa Pm ot asking you fa
Smplicaic ny of these (maus people in improper conduct, but just tell me what the
ines of the people are that you remember that you consider to be fous people.
Vi Ok, there was Naomi Cawspbol, Heidi Klum, there was Bill Clinkn. There wis Al (7)
Gore, there was a whole bunch of muxleds, wauldn'L really honestly be able a ive their
mame. Thare wus Mist Groning the produce of the siimpons cartoon, Jack CCoustean's
granddaughter a ot of interior desigoers, architects, politicians. {am just trying to think
of as ruany wanes as possible for you. OFF the top of my head, that's as good as 1 can get
for ow.
IS: Ok, right, tuts fine. And again, T am not implying by my questions, nor do 1 want
your ansusens 10 be interpreted as your suggests hat any of those people that you have
just ideauified were engaged in any improper sctiviies on any pazticulsr figl, but 1 wear
0 alk you now about what went on on occasion on the airplav. OK?
Vi Ok. Ttwas a lot of the sae hing thet went dow om the ground. A [tof times, ic would
be just be te and Jedifey, or me and Jellkey and Ghislatoe, or ne and Jefliey and some
aller gir, sometimes Tiny, Sarah. and Nadia Bjournik. (bere would be sexal conduct,
there would be foreplay, there was a bed in there, 50 wo could basically recuact cxnctly
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what was happeiting in the house, It vould stat off with massaging or we would stat off
with foreplay, sometimes it would lead to, you kuaw, orgies.
IS: Were thems occnsions when you wore in Teflrey’s company, sehether on the ground ar in
the air, wheres thers were wher gicls present whom yau knew t be wider uge 18?
Vi Yes. There was a constant influx of girls coming in and going out, And we were all very
‘young, Ou occasion, hero was some older girls. and 1 don't mean older as in like in their
30s or unything, Tsnean like 28, 29, someting like tht, just very ely. The majority of
he girls hut Jeflrey actully met or hud an his plane ar in bis house were under age.
JS: Do you know low it is that Jeffroy establishod with auy of these underage ails?
Vi Yes, Tdo. He would send me personally or with alee girls to clubs or shops, 1o_pick up
anywhere, 1 mean we were constantly on the Took foc other girls that might satisfy
Jeffrey,
IS: What instructions sere you given about what to look for?
Vi Young. pret, you know, a fun pemonality. They couldn't be black. If trey were any
ober descent other than white, they had to be exatically beautiful, "That was just about it
8: Who gave you those eriteria?
Vi They hath gave ms he insiuetions, snd 3 wie Just me, Telfrey asked most girls Io bring
a friend and make extra money. They would se ws young girls So that way it probably
Locked a tot miofe safer to a rl that we were procuring 1 Younger girls that were alteady
doing #, bat was the way that Joffe had it
IS: Were yau given any instruetion at all an how 1b spprouch theso girls?
Vi Yes. Jlefirey and Ghislaine both Gught we to, depeading on the circumstances,
depending on the girl you could offer them a job 25 a massage therapist or you could tell
then you have « really sich friond with, you know, great contacts in the acting world or
madefing yiurid wnd he loves pretty girls, you should come back and micet him, ake
some money, you know, we had a whale hunch of ways to be she (a procure girs.
JS: Canyou give me any idea as to the total number of naderage gids that you know engaged
in scxual conduct with Jeffrey during the period of time you hd your relationship with
him?
Vi 1 would hive mo way of estimating that whatsoever. T mean, there could be hundred,
there could be tore, honesty I'm not too sure how many girs, really. | wish T did know.
moan like 1 said these viere 50 many over the cowse of 4 years with Jeffcey.
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8: Letme see if we can ry 1b namow i down i file bil. Fs there any dao in your mind
that it wus note than 107
Vi Yes, there was definitely more than 10.
JS: Ok, what T want you fo do is I give me the highest mumbee thal you sec comfortable in
saying there ieee definiely mare tan X aunher of widerage girls al T know Jeffrey
Epstein engaged in sex with while I bad a relationship with hi. How would you Il in
thst blank? Definitely saoro than bow many?
Vi Tsay definitely tore than a hurd.
8: Alright. Did feffiey ever help to pick out your clothes?
Yi Oh yes. Tynan he wasn't ant to dross we ke porn stat or anything. Ho would sbways
dress tne very elas, but we'd just go shapping ull the lime togelher.
JS: Did he ever expross any style preferences in terms of how Le waited you to dies?
Fesiden drcssing clossy, [1m, you know, auy other suggestion fo you about how be
wanted you dressed?
Vi Ue didn't, like © said, wasnt uging Go dress me in any poostitle way or mything like
that. Ie was nice, classy outfits [ was wearing Be Gucci, Dice Gubhans, Chel, things
like that. He was buying me ot of very, very nice clothing. 1t was provocasise. | meun
Twas wearing miniskirt, and tight short shorts and irl shits that showed ny belly and
ms cleavago ani everything, but they wero very expensive clothes,
IS: Was there every any dress up role playing?
Vi You. There was. Lots of ie. Joffrey loved the latex owfits Ghislane had for us girls, he
had bondage quilts, be had wl} different kinds of outfits, but his favorite was the
schoolgirl.
J8: ell me about that.
Vi Well, yoo know, Ghislaine would taks me fo dress me up to surprise J or Jeffiey would
ask me ta gel dressed up, hat would include wearing a tiny litle skirt with nothing
underneath, a white collared shir thal you would be wesing 0 school witl a 6 in i Hed
win a bow , wy hair in pigails, skins on up i my knees, and § wid go in there
and act like a kid and we'd do role playing sexing.
J8: Did Teffioy over brag fo you sbout the age of auy of the ids with whom be had
relationships?
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Vi Yes.ho did. He did all thoime. The worst one thet heand from bis ows south was tis
rotly 2 year old girls he hud flown in for his binhday. It was a suprise birhday gift
from ome of his Irends und they were from France. 1 did sco them, I did met them.
Jefiey bragged afterwards after he met them that they wero 12 year olds and flown over
from France because they're really poor over thr, and lheir parents resled the money
‘or whatever the cas: is and they were absalutely Fee atay and flew out. ‘Those weee
he worst ones. He was constantly bragging about girls” ages or where he got them from
ar their past und has terrible sir past was and good he is maldng it for them.
18: Where were the 12 year old girls flown to from France? Where did they came ta?
Vi Pulm Pow.
J8: And were the flown in on JefPs private plans oe did they get transported?
Vi No. They were tnsported by somobady else
18: Ok. Was the aexual activi that went on on the airplane conducted in such. way so thet
ang ofthe crew was aware of what was gol on?
Vi They wero told to knock i they hi Lo come aul, if he crew had to come out. They were
told, you knaw, bs tome out as litle us possible, so they Weien't out there hanging our
watching sverylbing, no, hut it. doesnt take an idiot 1 put wo and two together 10 say
‘well there's « whale bunch of halt dressed teenagers on board with this old man who is
canstanly being massaged by them and he wuts we to keep the door shut for whal
reason! | mean, only thoy could put that other, but yeah, they knew.
JS: Did Mr. Fpsiein ever alk to you shout people of povee and influence oving him fvors?
Vi Tle would laugh about it, you know, | never ceatly kev: what fo tak scrious from Jofircy
because he was such a fami chassoicr at ims. You never know if what be was saying
was true or not. Yooh, fofs of people owed him favors From what he old me. 11s gol
everybody in bis pocket, ind he would Tusgh ahaut he helps people for the sole purpose
in the end they awe him something. That's why | believe he does so many favors iu the
First ple.
15: When and how did you first bocome avr thal Mr, Fpstein sas in trouble sith the lun?
Vi wes first informed by, T think someone from the FI called we fiest and stacied to ask
me gestions, and | suited to answer the questions bur then fear took over, and 1 just said
Took, 1 don’t know what's goiug on, I've got a young family that I don’t want w risk, you
know, please don’t bother me about this again. and i was real shor. simple comarsation,
‘and within a week or 2, 1 had golfca a call from JelTvey's attorney, and then u week later,
Jeffrey himself
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TS: Ok, well Tels back up before vie gel 1 those conversations and tell me approxiunately
when il was hal you were contaeted by the person who you believe was with the FBL
¥i Ok. It's hard for ms to pinpoiar, if hed to pinpoint it, it woukd he in 2007 somelime.
IS: Alright, And you sere living in Australia at thal ime, coreect?
Vi Comect.
38: You wore contacted by clephonc?
Vi That's comect, by ms cell phorie.
15: Ok and do you have any dca how your bam came up leading to thal contact.
Vi Node. No iden whaboever. When I did wi, 1 was told that some girls had revealed
my name, | guess, aad that’s how everybody, the FBI knew to contact me.
58 OK
Vi ButTdon't know offhund ar sarry, just walked ind the wrong room.
5S 0k
Vv: Somygoon
IS: Yes & II mover tell ber you said thes. Virginis, hoo Tong was it after that phone call
from the TBI person were you ontacted by Me. Epsteio’s lawyers
Vi Like a week Itwas back to back wo cach other. 1 remember being so soured ufir talking.
10 the FBI thinking viu’s happening. whnl's going on. 10% heen like 6 yer, 7 years ai
lat stage, how did they find me & whil da T hve Lo da with this?” So yeah, | do
remembes that very well, and it was only about a week later | was called by his attorney.
IS: Who was ft thac contacted you, do you remember?
Vi [wantto say Bill Riloy, but ho might have been from the FRI. No, it was Till Riley. Bill
Riley. Not sums if at's his correc rime, but that" what i coming 10 aud
8: Whatdo yon remenber about that conversation?
Vi Lremermber a Mr. Goldberger as well, I semcanber, there might uve been vi them.
3S Alright
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Vi Tean'tremember which ous it was. | want to say Bill Riley is tho good one.
IS: Alright, cither Till Riley or a Mr, Goldberger or bath of then comiscted you, imd what
do zou ferenber about that?
Vi Tdow't know if it was the samc guy who contacted me thar wesk lator who put me in
auch with Jeffrey. T think he yous on the phone and he put speakerphone on with Joffrey.
So he commeeted me with Jefrey. T dan’Lauow i iL was the sume gay or different, bt 1
detinitely know: that Bil Riley was the 1151 Qus Lo cont me. en prety sure ahout thal.
IS: Ok. Tell mo sbout har conversation.
Vi He asked me what | knew shout whi's going on with Teflrey smd spparenly, there was
an investigation beg eld about sane of the girls who had come out and suid thil
Jofficy had sexual contact with them under the age of a misor and that he wus
discrediting fof of hese girls and making thom out 10 be drug addicts and prostiontes and
shal bac you sa They wouldn't be Jooked upan ss warlhy in fhe courts cy2s 5010 speak.
And ou Kw, he Wid me in the [ini five mimics that, sou know, if slay quict, hat
“ll be looked after”. Aud thar was the exact way it was Suid. ( wasal1 ike you know,
Lm gouna pay you zillion dollars or anything if You be quier, but if] stay gues, | would
“locked after”, And | remcmix saying { don't want any part o do with this, You know,
bis is not something 1 wal Lo bs a part of, T've got a young faonily. 1 wish tho best for
everybody in his, you know, take car kind of thing. A sock later, was celled after the
Tearing by ane of Jeffreys lawgers. T can't tell vou exaedly which one i was bul he bad
Jeftiey on the othe fine and he connected Jeffrey and 1, and Jedlrey teed 10 make sme:
simple conversation, “Low are you? How have things been?” Yon know whet 1 oiean,
catching up.
5: Dao you knaw i the Yoneyer, did the Iswiyer stay on the line while Jeffrey was sposking to
you?
Vi Pm prof sue bo did. [has why f think Jeffrey was on speaker phone because it
sounder a lot different, and 1 vwas never taken off the line to begin with or connected to
mother fine, so T was pretly sure Jeffrey wis on speiker phone und tho tawyer was
making the call. After the simple conversation, it led what sas yore on gain snd you
kno, Jeffrey couldnt believe ie. You know, he thought he helped all these irks owe. He
did't think ke was wong in any circumstance here at all. A lot of these gis viere drug
addicts and just aficr drug woncy. You kuow, he was rcally putting dowa these women
ar these girls | should say, not ving then the credit hey deserved, and then be exactly
repeated whit the lawyer siid the week belbre i thal he would Took aller me if 1 stayed
quiet, and if need any help, you Know, his las yers would represent me and hi would get
legal help for me, whatever | need, he would do, and 1 10kd him exactly, 1 said, “JefTrey.
£m the mother of two children a that stage. © away from everything there, | donc
want lo bo a part of it. I'm not going to spel to anybody aud 1 don't want to speak @
amsbady, T don't wit to ho involved.” That wes the last fimo 1 hoard from him, And the
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next thing I knew, [was sent iy vietiin's ledter, my notification of beiog u victim trough
the US Attomoy’s Office and that’s when 1 knew it was well out there enough not to have
Joffiey's lawyers come back on mo and discredit me in the seme way he had done to all
the other ils. So, T called up Joseph Bird who was the recommenda lawyers on my
paperwork that they had given tne snd stared going from hore,
J5: So you contact Mr. Joseph Bergs’ office and then you were dealing with his office from
ad point forward.
Vi That's comect.
JS: Tell me about the ending of sour relationship with Jeffrey. “Ihat i, at shat pais in time
did your full fim canploymens and and how did that happen?
Vi Ok So, it hado'c really ended. 1 walked way from itl. Jeffrey sent me to Thailand
where | met my husband and escaped t Ausieulia, never L return hack 1 the stags.
About 6 months prior w that. ho came up with 2 proposition that | thought was realy
disgastingly sick. And it really showed me for the first time in d years L had been with
him hat mahing was going to change nd Twas always just going 10 be used by him?)
sohich | did not like. Fle offered me a mansion snd sme of bis money every month,
forget what he called it, a monly income of what he made 1 hear one of is children.
The proposition was that if anything ever happened between Jeffiey and 1, that | would
Lave to sign my child over to him basically and thet the child would be his and
Ghislainc’s, nad T vould be looking afic it 2s Jong as nothing happencd between Jefirey
and T. So, Twas kind of freaked ont by all of tht, I pushed Jeffrey more to please get me
some ome training, you know, und T wis geting ulier and Dot of us wich intrest to
Jeitrey anywizys. 1 wis 19 now, and he Tikes a female 2 lot younger. So he ent ma to
“Thailand, in Seprember 2002 . 1 was firsc supposed 1 meet a giel there and bring her
back with ms. but | never mot up with her, { proceeded get a short couse ia That massage
0 that ws to shit 0c wp about. my training sa { went ther, and ove of my fricads from
school invited rie to veich a fight, bike u muy thai ght, which is lke » form
kickboxing. So | went ard watched it, und | saw this uy thal vas = really ond fighter.
and a girs word, looked really hor, 50 | asked ny feiend who knew bin ta imsoduce me.
Wo gol introduced nnd £:ll in love iuwnediately. 3 davs later Rob proposed and 7 days.
Tater wens being mwricd ina buddist temple, 1 called Jeff and told him I'm sorry, I'm
never coming hack. I've golten marriod, "ve fallen in ove, | thovght ke'd wish tho best
for me but he was a of rude wid he just suid “have u good Te” ond hung up the phon,
and that 2s the last time Pd talked 10 him ever umnil ll this warled again.
JS: Ok. Virginia, is thore anything clec that you would like fo add to what you have fold us
up Lo this paint in ime?
Vi Id dike to know that this time wound somethings going lo be done about it and that
Jeffrey and a lor of his colleagues, na matter how rich they ure, will lin tht thero is
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Edsmrds ds. Epstsm
Inbghooe inavien vith Vieni Roars
Pags2icl2s
law and hat there is people thai will believe in it. So that’s it. Thank you guys for
Tistening la me, hearing me out and helping we. (0s kind of hard to get through.
1m Thank you very much. Yes, I'm sure it bas boon very difficult snd | am very apprecintive
of the courage von have shown in doing what you have dane, which really brings ine
the last subject, and thet is what was il thal. motivated you @ go public with alt of this?
Vi Sharon Richund contacted ne. 1 like hier, I do, 1 like Lier a lot. 1 know she's a jovmlisl,
and journalists ase normally bloodsucking leche, but Tike: her for thal, bul she is un
honest bloodsucking locch. She fold mo u Jol shoul whak was 56M going an, and she
showed me a picture of TefTrey with a Kile girl who looks like she could have been 12
youn: old. T meen # was disgusting. | agreed to talk with hes, | never agreed to do
nyliing, until she showed me some pictures, and at that stoge, boing * mother of 3
childeen and having a daughter who | would do anything for in proieet, T wauld put my
eck on the line to make sur: she ncver hus 1 go through what Thad 1 go through, and
Knowing all of this, md knowing (hal he's sill out Mere doing the same exact thing with
1 regrets, na remarse, na worry about what he's doing to those rls, and ali those girls
fecling the same way tat | did, 5 1, you know, I'm doing it because T believe in wy beet
of hearts it's the right thing to do.” I's what T woul want samehady 10 da for my
daughter or wy siser of my fricnd, 1nd if ssddcns me lo know thal it’s 31 going on right
ow. I's like the seisholl story. don knase if yoa'te heard the story about the little kid
wha throws buck arlish, you know, the line brother tries to ask his sister, “why do
you throw them in, they're ull gonna die anyways, the litle gir says “well, it's this one
That T can help, and this one that | can help,” and that's what { fool like I'm doing. I'm
making a small det iu this big world we live in.
18: 1 cortaiuly appreciate tha ooursge, and T hve heard that story, aid you're dbsolursly
Tight, hk cre pena may no be able Go 1nzke a difference for everyone, but one person
can mike u dillerence for someone, aud hopefully, you atc making 2 difference for
someae, and we're gonna do the best we can to make sur you arc making a diffarencs
for as many people a5 possible,
Vi Thanks Jock,
J5: Justa Few other follow up things | want to ask vou and again, if any of these questions
ave questions that you're wacomfortable in responding 0. then don't hesitate @ 1e1) me
that. Do you have any rocollcction of Joffrey psi’ upeci ically fling sou that “Bill
Clinton owes me fiers?
Vi Yes Tdo. Twas a taugh though. Le would laugh it off. Yon kuow, I remomber asking
Jeffrey whav's Bill Clinton doing here kind of thing, and he lughed it off and seid well
Lie owes me a favor. He never told mo what favers they were, 1 never knew. T didn’
Lao if he was serious. Twas just a joke.
JS: Where was here?
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Edvard a. Epstein
Talcphone inoriese with Viegiaa Roberts
Page 2.0075 :
Vi He told me a lng time ao that everyone owes him favors. They're all in each other's
pockets.
TS: When you say you asked him why is Bill Clinton here, where wa ero?
Vi Ontheiskind.
JS: When yon were preseut with Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Clinton on the island, who clse was
acre?
Vi Ghislaine, Emmy, and there was 2 young girls that | could ideatify. | never ceully knew
them well angways. Jtwas just 2 girls from New York.
38 And were al of you siaying at Jeffrey's bovss: on the island including Bill Clinton?
Vi Thats correct. Vie had about 4 or 5 diferent villas on his island separate fom the iain
hose, aut we all stayed! in the villas.
IS: Wor sexual orgies a rogular occurrence on the istand et Jeffrey's house?
Vi Yes
18: If we were to take swom testimony from the people [ am going to name, and if dose
people wero to tell the truth abont what they knew, do you believe that aay of the
following people would havo relevant information about Joffrey’s taking advantage of
underage girls? So TH just nan a mm, aid you tell me yes if they thi the truth, T
think they'd have relevant information or no, [dont think they would, or 1 Gon’ knaw
‘whether they would or aot, OK? You understand”
Vi Yes
JS: OK. Les Wexner.
Vi Lchink lie bas relevant information, but | don't think bel ell you the ruth.
IS Ok Alm Demshowitz,
Vi Yes
Js: David Copperdield,
Vi Don'tknow
8: Tommy Matola.
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abate. Lp
Talons bit wilh Vigne Robs
[intonty
vi Donnas.
Is: LPrinoc Andrew.
¥: Vex, he would know a lot of the tah. Again, [ don’t know how much he would be able
help you with, but seeing he's in a Jol of rouble himself these days, 1 think he might,
so 1thisk he may be valuable. Pm nuk lou sure of him.
I%: Ok. Virginia, I think that’s all I have for you. Let me tell you what 1 would like to do.
Ag T wld you in the boginning of this conversation. we've been recording it, and
hopefully, we've gat u clear enough recording so thal we've taken down overything
accurately and when it’s transcribed, il. will be clear and wecutate, but what | would like
todo is transcribe it, send it 10 you, have you take & look at it, and if there's anything thal
we gat wrong in fhe statement, you can waite back and you can make changes in the
transcript so thi the bansceipt is accurate. Is that fair?
vi No worries. That is fuir. No problem.
1S: Alright, great, I really do appreciate that and tell me what the best way is 10 send ihe
‘mseript lo you.
Yi Fmail. TF you just want 10 send it by emafl or i you want to sand it by mail, cither or.
FS Ok. Give me your email address if you vould please.
vi RRGRRINE
15: Let me red ih back you: AER
Vv: Yep that's it.
BE: Thaek you Tennu, appreciate il,
Vi Noproblem, Brad.
JS: Thank you very very much. Bye Bye now.
Vi Take care Jack. Nice vesting yom,
Is: You teo.
[EN ————
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Jobn Rob, Esq.
Principal Associate Deputy Atiorcy General
Office af the Deputy Stiomey General
United States Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W., Roam 4115
‘Washington, D.C. 20530
Dear Mr. Roth;
T again wanl to thank you for this opportunity to explain why we believe that a federal
prosecution of TeMrey Fpstein is unwarmaied. | appreciate your having informed us that you
alieady have ow May 19 and May 27 communications to the Depuly Altorney General. as well
‘as our prior written submissions 10 CFOS and to the Southern District of Florida,
In fight of the significant vohune of our prior submissions and to facifitate your review,
we have drafied four supplemental submissions that will provide a roadmap for your
investigation of this matter. Given the bulk of these documents and their appended supporting
attachments, you will receive this packet by messenger tomorrow. A brio description of cach of
the Tour submissions follows. First, T have included & succinct summary of the facts, law and
policy issuen of hund. Thix document sets forth 4 bugic overview of the issues and summarizes
our principal contentions us Lo why federal prosecution of (his matter is neilber uppropriate nor
I'he three other submissioos inciude: a summary of the irregularities and misconduct thal
‘ocourred during the federal investigation; a letter from former CEOS attorney Stephanie ‘Thacker
that responds to CEOS’s assessment of its limited review of Mz. Epstein's case; and a point-by-
‘paint rebuttal fo First Assistant United Stites Attomey Jeffrey Sloan's recent letter which we
believe contains aclu] inaccurscios lypical of our comespondenoe rom the Uniked Stetes '
Attorney’s Office in Miami (the “USAO™). Alw, for your reference, the package you receive
tomorrow will contain a binder including all documentation to which we refer in our
submissions. Finally, we will be providing a detailed checklist of each submission or substantive
communication to the USAO. Our intention is that you have copics of cach such document to
enhance your review, If there arc any that you have not received from the USAO or CEOS,
please advise und we will fedex them to you without delay.
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John Roth, Fg,
Tuc 19, 2008
Puge 2
As you we likely aware, the Department's prior review of this maker was incomplete
and, by its Own admission, not “de nova.” See Tab 38, May 1, 2008 Letter fromm A. Coslurbun.
Without considering the Non Prosecution Agreement at lef this matter to be resolved in the
State or any of the misconduct, CEOS reviewers, sked with reviewing some of their own
previously expressed opinions. asscssed only whether the United Staley Alomey would “abuse
[his] discretion” if he pursed this case. Wile we appreciate CLOS's willingnces to cxamize
these limited issues, its cooclusion that a prosceution would not be an “abuse of discretion” rings
particularly hollow in light of CEOS’s adrirbly undid concessions that we have raised
‘compelling’ abicetions ard that a prosecution un these cts would require “novel” applications
of federal Taw, Indeed. oven a bricf review of CEOSs own mission statement reveals how
nappasite a federal prosecution i to the cts in this case
Importantly, we nate that the CIOS review sis conducted prior to the Suprere Courl's
very scant decisions in Santos and Cuellar, which we believe—iliuminating as they do the
Court's interpretive methodology when It comes fo federal cominal Lsw—powerfully
demonstrute (be substumlive vulnerability of the USAQ's unprecedenizd employment of tluce
fedecal laws. That Office's inlerpretation would never pass muster under the Supreme Court's
recent pronouncements and should mo be countenancod. That is all the more true under the
circumstances where the duly appoinied U.S. Atvmey upined that, in cffect, the “unitary”
Exsewrive Branch was driving this prosecution. We nw kno (hat is not so.
What I respectfully request, and wiiat [ hope you will provide, is & truly “de novo”
review—ihat is, an indopendent asscssment of whether federal prosecution of Mr. Fpsicin is both
neseswury und warranted in view of tho logal and evidentiary burdles that have been ideniifid,
the existence of u State felony ples and seniemos that have been advocated by the State Atiamey
for Palm Beath Caunty, and the many issues of prosecutorial misconduct and overzealousness .
that have permeated thie investigation. | alsa request thet you provide us with the opportunity
during your review to meet with you In person to answer any yuestions you may have and fo
elucidate some of the issues iu our submission.
We heliove that an independent reviews will confirm our song. belief that fderal
proseentons would be tequired to stretch the plain meaning of euch clement of the enumerated
statutes, and then to combine these distorted elereents in u tenuous chain, in order & convict Mr.
Epscin. Indcod, Just this week (and after two years of federal involvement in this matter),
Assistant United States Aftomey Villafina re-iniiared the federal grand jury investigation —in
direct. contrvention of the parties’ Non Prosccution Agrcoment—and jssued vet another
subpoena seeking evidence in (his case, See Tub 19, Subpoena to [IEEE Lo hc
subpoena, AUSA Villafana directs [IN SSESN:> oppess on July 1, 2008 w give iestimony
‘and produce documents t FG) 07-103 West Palm Beach. The attachment o the subpoena seeks
documents sich as photographs, emails, telephone billing information, and cantact information
tat relat: to Mr, Epstein as wl as specific other people who received protection from federal ’
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John Roth, Esq.
Jun 19. 2008
Puged
prosecution as 2 result af Mr. Tipstein’s having cnicred into the September 24, 2007 Now
‘Proscontion Agreement with the USAQ.
‘Notably, the Non Prosecution Agreement contains the following ugreed condition:
Fler, upon exes of ths apscaicnt 30d 8 plea sgssement with tho Se Amys Ofice,
he fuderal Grane Try inveiation wil be. aopended ad ll pening toda) Grand Jury
swhposrias will be held in abeyance unless and wnti) the defendant violates any feem af thiy
sgrcsncnt. The detsadant ouiso opess wild bi penicg Tlion to Geren: 00d o
‘go corbin gan jury subpoenis,
See Tab 21, Scprember 24, 2007 Non Prosecution Agreement. It also guarantees that persons
identified in the Grand Jury subpoena such I und Leslie Groff
und others will not be prosceuted. The new Grand Jury subpoena clearly violates the Non-
Prosecution Agreement. Although Mr. Epstein has exercised his rights to appeal 0 the
Department of lustice withthe full consent and knowlodg of the USAO, he has not breached the
Agreement. “The re-connmencing of the Grund Jury isin violation of the Agrocmeat.
But father, the new investigation, which features a wide-ranging, fishing-cxpedition tye
to scarch in New York does nothing to satisfy the very essenti elements ol federal shtutes that
are licking despite the intensity of an over two-year investigation in the Palm Beach aren.
AbsenL evidence of Internet luring. inducements while using the phone, travel for the purpose,
fraud ar caeecion, the subject of the New York investigation is as lacking in the essential basis
for converting a state case into a federal case as is the remainder of the Florida investigation.
‘The reaching out to New York to fill the void emanating fram the aflures of the Florida
investigation compellingly demonstrates the misuse of federal resources in an overzealous, ver
penalized, selodive und extraordinary aétempt to expand federal lav: to where it is bas never
gone. This last-ditch atempt hy Ms. Villufana reinforces our belief that the USAQ docs not have
facts that, without distortion, sould justify u prosecution of Mr. Fpsicin.
In view of the prosecution’s often-verhalized desire lv punish Mr. Epstein, we believe
that the prosecution summary suffers from critical inaccuracies and aggregaes the expected
wstimony of witnesses so as to Teach a conclusion of guilt. Our contention is reinforced by the
fut thal key proseuion witnesses have provided evidence and testimony that directly
undermines the prosecution's misleading and insecarate summary of its case. Indeed, we now
have received statements from three of the principal accuscr— INGE through = state
criminal deposition). I (trough o federal FRI-USAG sworn und irgmseribed
interview), and SE— ithrongh a defense generated swom transcribed interview).
Tech of these witncsses categorically denics cach cssential clement that the prosecution will have
to prove in order to convert this quintessential slae-law case into a federal matter.
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John Ror, Esq.
June 19,2008
Page d
Jt hus is espesially troubling dat the USAO hus not provided us with the wanseript of
pa federal interview, nor the substance of the interviews with Ms JEN or Ms.
nox aay information generuted by interviews with any of the upprositasicly 40 alleged
witnesses (hut tho prosecution claims if hus identified. Because the information provided by
these women goes diroetly to the question of Vir. Epsicin’s guilt or innocence, it iv chic Brady
information. We understand that the U.S. Altmey might not want to disclose impeachment
information about their witnesses prior to a chasge or during pla negotiations. Hut we firmly
helieve that when the Goverment possesses information that goes directly Io 3 target's facrual
guill or innocencs, th wrget should be informed about such heartland exculputory evidence.
Most importantly, aside from whether the Deparment belicves Brady obligaies
disclosure to a target ola federal investigation prior tn the twrgel's formal accusation, no such
limit siould apply to a Department review. Accordingly, we request that you go beneath the face
af any summary provided to you by the USAO and instead review the actual witness transcripts
aud F131 302, which are essctial for you to be able to make a truly independent issessment of
the steengeh and windom of zny federal prosecution.
After careful consideration of the record, and as much ex it pains mo to say this, simply
do vot believe federal prosecutors would have been involved at al in this matter if not for Mr.
Tpstcin's persoual wealth and publicly-reported lies to former President Bill Clintim, A simple
interme seurch on Mr. Epstein reveals myriad articles and news stories about the fommcr
President's personal relationship with Mr. Fpstein, including multi-page stories in New Tork
‘Magazine and Vanlly Fair, Mr, Epstcin, i fact, only came t the public’s aficntion a few years
ago when be and the former Prosident traveled for a week to Alien (using Mr. Epstein's
airplanc)—a tip that received u great deal of press coverage. [ cannot imagine that the LSAQ
ever would have contemplated a prosecution in this case if Mr. Epstein lacked this type of
notariety.
Toat belief hus bocn reinforced by the significant prosocutorial impropriety and
misconduct throughout the corse of this mater. While we describe the majority of these
invogulaitios in another submission, two instances are particularly troubling. First, the USAO
authorize the public disclosure of specific details of the open investigation ta the New York
Times—including descripeions of the prosecution’s fheory of tho case and specific terms af a plea
negotiation helween tho partics. Sccond, AUSA Villafar silempled to carich friends and close
acquaintances by bringing them busincss in connection with this msltcr. Specifically, she
attempted to appoint a close personal friend of her live-in boyfriend ta serve as an attomey-
representative for the women involved in [his case.
Tt also bears mentioning that actions taken by FAUSA Sloman present an uppesrunce of
impropriety thal gives us cause for concern. Vir. Sloman's former lev partner is currendy
pussuing u handful of $50-million lawsuits against Mr. Fpstein by some of fhe masscuses.
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John Roth, sq.
Jac 19,2008
Page 5
Finally, as you knaw, Mr. Tipstein and tho USAQ cntered into an agreement that deferred
prosecution to the State. In this regard, 1 simply note that the manner in Which Chis ugrcemmct
wat negolinted contrasts sharply with Me. Sloan's current representation that “fhe SPIT.
Indicated a willingness to defer to the State the length of incarceration... * See Tab 1, May 19,
2008 Letter from J. Slonnun, p. 2. This statement is simply not teas. Contrary lo Mr. Slomaw’s
asscrtion. federal prosecutors refused Un accept what the State belioved to he uppropriue a to
Mr. Epstein’s sentence and instead, insisted thal Mr. Epstein be required serve a two-year tem of
imprisonment (which they later decreased to 18 month plus ane year of house arrest). Federal
prosecutons huye not anly involved themselves in what s quintessentially a state matter, but thele
actions have caused a critical uppenance of impropriety that raises doubt us to their motivation
for investigating and prosecuting Me. Epstein in the first place.
At bottom, we appreciate your willingness (@ review this matter with a fresh—and
independent—sot of eyes. Lo facilitate your review. T once again request the opportunity 1
make mw: aral prescntation to supplement our written submissions, and wo will promptly respond
10 any ingairies you may have.
Saugebincprsly, 1
WS
Kenneth W. Sarr
ee Deputy Attomes Genecal Mack Tilip
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RE J. EPSTEIN
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Tune 19,2008
Jol Roth, Fay.
Principal Associate Deputy Attomey General
Office of the Deputy Atlomey General
United States Department of Justice
950 Pemaylvaia Aves, NW. Room 4115
Washington, D.C. 20530
Dear Mr. Roth:
1 again vient to thank you for this opportunity to explain why we believe that a federal
prosceution of Jeffrey Epstein is unwarrantad. [ appreciate your having informed us that you
already have our May 19 and May 27 communications to the Deputy Atlorney General, as well
as our prior written submissions to CEOS and to the Southern District of Florida,
In light of the significant volume of ovr prior submissions and tu facilitate your review,
we have dualied four supplemental submissions that will provide a roadmsp for your
investigation of this matter, Given the bulk of these documents and their appended supporting
attachments, you will receive this packet by messcager tomorrow. A brief description of each of
the four submissions Hows, First, | have included & succinct summary of the facts, law and
policy issu at band. "hs document sel forth # basic overview of the issues end summaries
our principal contentions as o why foceral prosscution of Gis matte i neither appropriate nor
warmed.
‘The three other submissions include: a sumenary of the ireguiaritics aud misconduct that
‘occurred during the fedetal investigation; letter from former CEOS attomey Stephanie Thacker
th responds to CEOS's assessment of its limited review of Mr. Epstein’s case; and a point-by-
point rebuttal to First Assistant United States Atiomey Jeffrey Sloman's recent letter which we
believe contains facto inaccuracies typical of our comespondonce from the United States :
Atoruey's Office in Miami (tn “USAD). Alto, for your reference, the package you reecve :
tomorrow will contain u binder including all documentation lo which we refer in our
‘submissions. Finally, we will bo providing a detailed checklist of cach submission or substantive
communication 10 the USAQO. Our intention is that you have copics of cach such document to
enhance your review. If there are any (hel you have not reccived from the USAO or CEOS,
plese advise aad wo will fedex them to you without delay.
haps Hongkong min Meh dewiok SsPwene WeagnbC
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John Roth, Esq.
Juno 19. 2008
Page2.
As you are likely aware, the Depantment’s prior review of this ruatier was incomplete
aud, by its own admission, not “de novo.” See Tab 38, May 13, 2008 Letre from A. Qostorbaan.
Without considering the Non Proseuution Agreement that loft this matter to he resolved in the
State or any of the misconduct, CEOS reviewers, tasked vith ceviewing some of their own
previously expressed opinions, axsessod only whether the Uniled States Attomey vould “ubuse.
[his] discretion” if he pursucd this case. While we appreciate CEOS’s ‘willingness to examine
hse limited issuce, i conclusion that a prosecution would not be an “abuse of discretion” rings
particularly holtow in light of CEOS's admirably candid concessions that vio have raised
“compelling” objections ad that proscetion on these facta would requis "aovel” applications
of federal Jaw. Indeed, sven a brief review of CEOS's own wnission statement reveals hoi
inapposite & federal prosceution is 1 the fucls in this caso.
Lmpariantly, we note that the CEOS review was conducted prior to the Suprems Court's
very recent decisions in Santos and Cuellar, which we belicve—illuminating ss they do the
Court's interprotivo methodology when it comes fo federsl criminal lew powerfully
demonstrate the substantive vulnerability of the USAO's unprecedemied employment of three
federal laws. That Office's interpretation would never pass muster under the Supreme Court's
recent prodauncemenis and should not be countenanscd. (hat is all the more true under tho
circumstances where the duly appoinizd U.S. Attomey opined thu, in effect, the “uitary”
TFxeculive Branch was driving this prosecution. We now know that is not so.
What 1 respectfully request, und whit | hope you will provide, is a truly "de novo”
review—shat is, an independent wxscasmer of shather federal provocation of Mr. Epsteia is both
necossary and warranted in view of the legal and evidentinry hurdles that have been identified,
tho exisience af u State felony plea and sentence that have boen advocated by the Sie Attormey
for Palm Beach County, and the many jssucs of prosecutorial misconduct and overzealousness
that have penneated the investigation. | also request that you provide us with the oppurlunity
during your review to mect wilh you in person mau any quastons you may hace and to
elucidate some of the issues in our submission,
We believe that au independent review will confirm our strong beliel that federal
prosecutors vould be required 1 stretch the plain meaning of each element, of to epunerated
statutes, and then to combine these distorted cloments in a (enuous chain, in order to convict Mr.
Epstein. Indeed, just this week (and after two years of fodoral involvement in this matter), *
Assistant United States Attorney Villafun re-intiated the foderal grand jury investigation—in
diteet contravention of the parca’ Nom Proscoution Agreement—and issucd yet aucther
subpocns sckiag evidence fn this sas: See Tb 19, Subpoers io INL 1 he
subpoena, AUSA Villafana dirccts INES: 2opex: on Tuly 1, 2008 to give testimony
and produce documents to FGJ 07-103 West Palm Beach, The attachment to the subpuena seeks.
documents such as photographs, exis, telephone billing information, nd contast information
that relate to Mr. Epstein 4s well as specific other people who received protection from fedora] ”
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June 19, 2008
Pago 3
prosecution as a result of Mr. Epstein’ having entered into the September 24, 2007 Non
Prosceurion Agreement with the ISAO.
Notably, he Non Prosecution Agreernent eoniains the following agreed condition:
Foren, upon execution ofthis nperent and pls assent withthe State Atooey's Offs,
ihe federal Grand Jay brosigaton wil Le mooie, | ll proding fda Grand Tuy
subpsenes il) be bed is Sbeyance loss and nl fhe defiodea violas any toa of chs
agtitnan. The derodact Wowie sgics a wild his peadng moda to Barer and to
‘uh shin grand uy poco
See Tab 21, September 24, 2007 Non Prosceui i tees that persons
identified in the Grand Jury subpoena such gE
and others will not be prosoeutod. The new Grand Jury subpoena clearly violates the Non-
Prosecution. Agreement, Aithough Mr. Epstein has cxercised his rights to appeal to the
Department of Justice with the full consent and knowledge of the TSAO, he has not breached the
Agreement. The re-commencing ofthe Grand Jury is in violuion of tho Agreement.
But further, the new investigation, which features a wide-ranging, fishing-expedition type
to seasch in New Vork does nobis to sil the very essential elements of federal satus hat
are lucking dospite the intensity of an over two-year investigation in the Palm Beach wen.
Absent ovidonce of Inteenet ling, icducemenes hile using the phone, tuvel for the purpose,
fraud or coercion, the subject of the New York investigation is us lacking in the essential basic
for converting & state cue into u federal case as is the remainder of the Florida investigation.
“The reaching out to New Yotk to fill the vold emanating frora the failures of the Frida
investigation compellingly demonstrates the misuse of federal resources in an overzealous, over-
personalized, selective and extraordinary attempt to expand federal Law to where it is has never
go, This stich attezpt by Ms. Villaana enforces our belief hat the USAO docs not lave
Facts that, without distortion, would justify a prosecution of Mr. Fpstcin.
Tn view of the prosecution's often-verbalized desire to punish Mr. Epstein, we believe
that the prosecution summery suffors from critical inaccuracies and agercgates the expected
‘wstimony of witnesses so as to reach a conclusion of guilt. Our contention is reinforced by the
fact that key prosccution witnesses have provided evidence and testimony that directly
undermines the prosecuions miskcading and inaccurate summary of ifs case. Indesd, we sow
have received statements from three of the principal secures [RRR hh u sale
erimioal Se (through a federal FBI-USAO swom and. wrnscribod
interview), and (through a defense generated wom {ranscribed interview).
‘Fach of these witnesses categorically does each essential element tha: the prosecution vill have
prove in order Lo convert this quintessential state-law case into a federal matter.
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Joha Roth, Esq.
June 19, 2008
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is especially troubling that the USAO has mot provided us with the asuscript of
Ms. federal interview, noe the substancs of the interviews with Ms, JENN or Mis.
nor any information genssoed by interviews ith wny of the approximately 40 alleged
‘witnesses that the prosecution claims it has identified. Because the information provided by
these women goes dineetly to the question uf Mr. Epstein’s guilt o insooers, its clasic Brady
information. We understand that the 1), Atiomey might not went t disclose impeachicent
information shout their Witiesses prior 10 & charge o during plea negotiations. But we Branly
believe that when the Government possosses information that goes directly to trgels factual
suit or innoosuice, the targel should be informed aboul such hearand exculpuory evidence.
Most importantly, side fom sicther the Depuriment believes Brady obligaios
disclosure to a target of a federal investigation prior to the twget's formal accusation, no such
limit shold 2pply 10 a Deparoment review, Accordingly, wo toques? that you go hencath the fice
‘of any summary provided to you by the USAO and insteed reviews the actual wimoss transcripts
‘and FBI 302s, which are essential for you to bo able fo make a truly indepsudent assessment of
the strength and wisdom of any federal prosceution.
After careful considerarion of the cecord, and as much as it pains me 10 say Wis, T simply
do not believe federal prosecutors would lave been involved at all in this mater if nol for Mr
Epstein's personal wealth end publicly-reported tis to former Prosident Bill Clinton, A simple
Iniemst. soarch on Mr. Epstein reveals myriad articies and news storics abou the furmer
President's personal relationship with Mr. Bpstel, itcfuling multi-page stories in New York
Magazine snd Vanity Fair. Mr. Epstein, in fact, only one fo the public's wiention a fov years
ago when he ond the former President traveled for 2 week lo Africa (using Mr. Cpsiein’s
airplane) tip that received 2 great deat of press coverage. | cannot imagine that the USAQ
ever would hve contemplated a prosecution in this case if Mr. Epstein lacked this fype of
notoriety.
That helicf has been ecinforcsd by the sigaificant prosscurarial impropriety and
misconduct troughout the course of this matter. While we describe the majority of these
irmgularitis in another submission, two instmeey are particularly troubling, Fist, the USAQ
awthorized the public disclosure of specific dotafs of the open investigation to the New ork
Dimes-—including descriptions of the prosecution's theory of Lhe case and specific Lerma of a plea
negotiation between the purtien. Sccand, AUSA Villafans stomptod to enrich friends and close
acquaintances by bringing them business in connection with this matter. Specifically, she
attempted zo appoint a close pecsonal fiend of her live-in boyfriend to serve as a ulomey-
representative for (ho women lavolved in this case.
It also bears wentioning that uctions taken by FAUSA Slomen present an appeerance of
impropriety that gives us ceuse for concom. Me. Slomun's former law parcoer 3 cumaly
pursuing = handful of $30-millon lawsuits agaivst Mr. Epstcin by some of the musscuscs.
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Finally, as you know, Mr. Epstein and the USAQ entered into an agreement tht deferred
prosecution to the State. In this regard, I simply nole that the manner in which this agreement
was negotiated contrasts sharply with Mr. Sloman's current representation that “{T[he SDFL
Indicated a willingness to defer 10 the State the length of lacarceration , ,. ™ See Tab 1, May 15,
2008 Lotter from J. Sloman, p. 2. This statement is simply mot true. Contrary (© Mr. Sloms's
‘assertion, federal prosesutors reflised to accept what the State believed to be appropriate gs to
Mr. Tpatein’s sentence and instead, insisied that Mr. Epstein be required scrve a nwo-year term af
imprisonment (which they later docrcased 1 18 month phus ono year of hotwse arrest). Federal
prosecutors huve not anly involved themselves in what is quintessentially a slate matéer, but theie
‘actions huve canscd a critical appearance of impropricty that raises doubt as to their motivation
for investigating and prosecuting Mr. Epstein in the first place.
At botlam, we apprcoiate your willingness fo review this matter with a fresh—and
independent—sct of eyes. To facilitule your review, | once again request the opporhuaity fo
uke an oral presentation to supplement our written submissions, and wo will promplly respond.
to auy inquiries you may have.
Tous)
Kennel W. Siar
ce: Deputy Attomey General Mark Pilip
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feftrey Fpstcin, a successful husincenan and noel philanthropist with uo prior criminsi
eevard, has been investigated for polential violations of 18 1LS.. §§ 1591, 2422(b) and 2423(5).
Since ths limited 1oview coudeted hy CEOS, two Supreme Court decisions —one authored by
Tustice Scalia 42d fhe other by Justice Ttomas—kave rovitalined the bedrock principles that
feral criesinal statutes ust be narmowly canstrued, (at they may not bs stretched to federalize
onduct not ily covered by their pronibitions, and that hanover there are two plausible
camsfrections ofa criniioal statute, the narmovier consteuction (hich safeguards beets) rather than
the ‘muader consiretion (which exp tho federal psecutor’s arsenal) controls vader lhe
veaezable mule of lonity.
Mr Bpstein’s conduci—ineluding his miscomluct—lla within tho Lesrland of historic
sto police and prosecuurial powers, Abst a significant faderl nes, meners volving
prostiation kava alway been treated 38 ste-law criznca even when thoy involve minors. Mr.
‘Epstein’ conduct lacks ny of the hallmarks that would convent thin quintessential ste cme
into a federal ong under auy of the statutes prosecutors are considering.
Mr. ¥psiin lived in Palm Beach, aud Lis inecstate travel was marely 10 0 Some. Any.
sexu) conduet tant occurred aflcr he amived was incidental (o the purposss for his tavel, Even
‘ CEOS admitted that applying § 2423(b) to 2 citizen traveling home wonld be “novel.” In fet, it
h would b both unprecedented and in Gouflict with Supreme Cort cases that have withstood the
test of time far over 60 years.
Worcaver, br. Epstein did 201 use the iatemel (vither via omail or chatrooms) to
camenunicato with any of the witnossss In this investigation. indead, he id aot use wy ather
fasility of fntersiate commerce, including tae phoas, lo knowingly persuade, entice, or induce:
amyome 10 isis Lis hone the “local” cus of al the incidents ander iuvestigation uch loss
fo persuade, entice, ur induc & knOWR MICOf tu engage in prohibited sex acts, ay § 242261)
requires, Nor did auyont on his behalf “persuade” ur “induce” or “catice” or “coerve” inyone ns
these words ace ordinarily understood aad as the new Supreme Court decisions manda hey he
applied: narowly, without mrciching ordiviacy sige to confor 0 a prosecutor's case specific
nod for 2 broad (and in this caso unprecedenicd) spplication. In addition, a5 will be shawn
low, § 2422(b) requires that the objec of the communication be a state lew offense thet “can
be charged.” Yel becuuso the state of Florida's tatuto of imitations is one year for the fire
prostitution offense und thros yours for other targeted offensos, and because ofl or virtually all of
he offeuse cuncuct a: i35u6 in the federal investigation ocenized prior to June 20, 2003, those
cls oun mo be chicgod by the State, wd dus oamnot meet this essential element of federal law.
Fuually, Mr. Cpsioi neither coerced, ar ensleved, nor traflicked, nor derived say profit
from his seul conduct, He was an undinary “Toh,” not a pimp. But § 1591 bu directed only
aginst those who engage ia force ur fraud or coercion or who are i te business of commercial
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sexual trafficking. “The statute has never boon asplicd fou “John. and only a highly und
impermissibly aciective proscoafion could stretch § 1591 fo reach conduct like thal al issue in
tia ease.
In short, without “novel” interprotive expansions—a description used hy CROS itscif—it
comnof be shown thar Mr. Epstein violated any of the twee federal matures identified by
prosecutors. As the Supreme Cowt’s reccnt decisions in Santas and Cuellar make cloar, fodcral
law may not be stretched in that manner, and the cunt foderal investigation relics, as its
foundation, vn imperoissivly elastic stretches of each stamte beyond ay roported precodeat,
bevoud the essential elements of each statate; well outside the ordinary constmetion of each
‘sratute’s limitations; ad 0 a selective, extraordinary, and unwanted expansion of foderal ‘aw
© cover conduct that has always boan exclusively within the care nf tare powers.
Al is point in time, the need for Departmeato] oversight is cricical. We appreciate this
upportunily lo submit our assessment of the key facts in this case and review of the pertinent
[feders] statutes, und respectfully request that the Office of the Deputy Attorney General end
[ederel involvement in this matter so that the State of Florida may resolve this case appropriately.
Summary of the Facts
Mr. Epstein hus muintained « howe in Pulm Beusch, Flurida for the past 20 years. While
7 there, he routinely conlucied busines, receive medical alcation, socialized with reads, cad
% belped cere for his elderly mothes. Mr. Epstein also had various women visit his home 10
pect massages. He did cot persorally schedule the wassage appoistments or comicnie
with the women over whe phone or the Inemet. Rather, Mr. Bpstcin’s personal assistants
scheduled many types of appoiutiments, personal traicars, chiropractors, businoss mostings ws
massages. Tie phone message pad raken from his hous and in the possession of the
government voalinned that in many cases, the women themselves contactod Mr. Epstein’s
assistants to inquire about is availsbilicy eather than vice versa.
“The majority of the russes were just thet wad nothing ele. Ms. Epstein ufien would be
om the telephone conducting business while he received Fis massage, At limes, (3: masseuses
would be topless, and some sexual activity might ccur—primarily self-mastusbation. on the part
of Mr. Epsicin. On olka uccasiona, no sexual uelivity vsuld oeour at all. There was no peitem
ar practice regarding which masseuse would be scheduled or a particalar day-- if one would be
scheduied sf all—or whether any sexual activity might occur. Indeed, Mr. Epstein almost never
now which massense lis assistands had scheduled until she amived See Tab 3, JEON
Records.
Mr. Epstein specifically requested that each wasseusc be at Teast 18 years old, The vast
majority of (he masseuses were in fact in their twenties, many accompanied to Mr. Epstein’s
home by friends or even other family members. Furhermore, most of the women who have
tested hat they were actually under 18 heve specifically edlaitted To systematically lying 0
Mr, bpstein abut their age. See Tab 4 WENN Tr. ut 38-39; Tab 5. JET. at 16; Tb 6,
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6, 6,22, 45; Tab 7, I 13; Tob SO Tr. ot 5; Tb o, MT. ut 5; and
“Tab 10, JE Ir. 0% 14-15 (excerpls from these transcripts ato included below). Furthermor,
the women who visied Mr. Epstein’s home all visited vohmtarily and many willingly retumad
seversl times,
The State Attermey's Office (the “SAQ™) has vast experience prosecuting sex mimes and
conducted an exhaustive, 1S-month investigation of Mr. Epstein. A Grand Jury has concluded
thar Mr. Epstein was merely a local “Jot,” guilty of soliciting prostitution in violation of stats
tae. Notably, Florida lw distin shes soliciting from procuring und compelling prostttion if
minors are involved. Indeed, soliciting is = misdemeanor except for tbe commission of a third
schvoquent offense, wraiag i inlo a felony. Tho SAO, therefore, sought ind chisined m
indictment. charging Mr. Epstein with felony solicitation of prostitution. Mr. Epstein is prepared
to plead guilty and sccept sentence for that offonsc—a sentence that, notsbly, is far more
severe than that meted out to other “Tohns™ convictod of violating Tlovida’s solicitation laws for
‘cases in which sexual uctivity wes allogod.
Trough CEOS points oat its admirable goal of “protecting children,” a moniker thar
nga high cxnulios, the conduct allged hard involses wore over 16, wich ie the aga of
consent in 38 states and supplies the effective fdorsl age of consent. The young women were hy
a0 means the target of high-schoo! trolling; they werd individuals who. with friends, visited Mr.
Tipuicin's hous--a home fll of [eds and staf. The civil complaints fled ayuirst Mr. Epsicin
eiterate the fact hat the individuals who visited Mr. Epstcin would visit with their fiends. And
{ Mr. Epstein never spoke fo ur had any contact with these Wornen before they urmived at his
5 house. And again, tho Stato Landling this matter sppropristly.
We raspectiully submil that that should be the bopinning nd the end of this matter. As.
you kaawi, the Deparmient's Petite Policy precludes sucoossive fodaml prosecutions afler a State
ha acted: “(4] stare judgment of conviction, plea agreement [here held in abeyance solely us a
result of the federal investigation], or scquiltal on the merits shall be a bur 10 ny subsequent
federal prosceution for the same act or acts” SAM, § 920317 (emphasis added).
Consistent with ehat principle, and of purticulur relevence to this case, the Depataent itself just
recently observed the following:
[PRrostitution-related offenses have historically been prosecuted at the state or
local Jevel. This allncation between state and Federal enforcement authority docs
not imply tha thes crime ar Joss scious, but ther reflects important social
wilocations of respamsibility between state and Federal governments... [T]be
Department is not aware of acy reasons why sue und local authorities are not
surenlly able to prrsve prostinutiou-relted crimes such that Federal jusisdiction
See Tab 11, November 9, 2007 Letter from Justice Department Priccipel Deputy Assistant
Attoraey General Brian Bencskowski fo the House Committee on the Juliciary, p. 8-9.
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Summary of the Law
We hve reviewed every reported case under 18 U.S.C. §8 1591, 2622(b), and 2423(5),
nd cannot find a single vse thal resulted in a conviction ou cla akin to th ones Lore, Ln some
respec, itis not surprising thal no precedent supports federal prosceution of a mau who angeged
in consensual conduct in bis home, flat amowats 10 sofictation under Sto low. Afcr all,
promtariou, evan when the allsgations invoive minors, is fendamentally a Ste cancers, Tinted
States v. Ewan, 476 F.3d 1176, nl (11th Cir. 2007) (noting thet fodoan: law “does not
crimicalize al acts of prostitution (a vice traditionally aaveme by sate rogntion)”), cud ther
i nn evidence that Polos Bruch County authorities ani Florida proscestors canuot effectively
proscents and punish the conduct, See alse Aatchelder v. Gazalez, No. +07-cv-10330 SEM.
AK, 2007 WI. 5022105 (X.D. Tha. Ot. 19, 2007). In fact, he opposile is rus—the atnc-cleoted
uficials, cognizant of the loval mores of the Gommunity, hve 2 lauded history of just sock
proseculiens.
To any cvaat, and os set forth below, Bane of the federal states in this case remotely
supper a proscontion on the facts of this cass Who each aud every element being strciched in
a rovel way to ciiompass the behavior at issue. We begin with first principles. Courts in this
country have “eadiioually exercised restrain in assessing the reach of federal criminal states,
bth oul of deface fo the precaglives of Cangross, Dowling v. United States, 473 U.S, 207
i (1985), und out of concer tat ‘a ir warning should bo. given to the world in language that the
B wommon workd will understand, of whe the fa irs to 00 if a certin line is passed. Arthur
Andorson LLP. rived States, 544 TLS. 696, 703 (2005) tqating McBople v. United Seates, 263
U.8..25, 27 (1931) (citation omitted).
“Iwo recent Supreme Court decisions dramatically nadezscore these principles and help to
highlight why federal prosecution in (his case wold be iuproper a u matter of both Jaw and
policy. See United States v. Santos, No. 06-1005 (tute 2, 2008); Cuellar v. United Shazes, No.
06-1456 (lune 2, 2008). Though they both adress the interpretation and application of the
feleral money fauedoriug statute, 18 U.S.C. § 1956, the principles they set forth aro cqually
applicable hors, In Sanias, the Court held that the stanrory term “proceeds” means “profits”
rer than “recoipts,” ead thus ave he statute a significantly arrose interprellion than what
the govenment hd urged. Tn his plurality opinion, Justice Scalia emphasized thar where a
statutory som in a crtuinal satcte could SUpPOTS either & amo or broad application, the marr
interpcation must be adopted hecause “(w]e interpret ambiguous criminal staffs in favor of
defendants, not prosecelors.” Shp op. at 12. As His opinion explain, the ric of laity “ot
only vindicates the undaments] principle tat 0 citizen should be held acconniadle for a
violation of a statute whose GommANAS are waceduin, or subjected to punishment (sat is nuk
clearly proscribed. 1 also places the weight of ineria mon the pay tat can best induce
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Congress o mea moro clearly and keeps courts fiom making erluinat faw in Congress's sta”
Sip op. at 6.
In Cutelar, ts Court examined the ink benveen the momey-lsundoring stante’s mans rea
requirement and the wdedlying eloments of tho offense. Aller u caroful textual analysis of the
salute and its structce, tke Court ruled that the defends convictian could be sustined only if
he knew th: tae transportation of finds to Mexico wus. designed fo conceal their nature,
tocation, sanzoo, ownership or conhol—not merely tha the defend Knew that the finds had
heen hiddeu during their transportation to Mexico. Slip op. al M117.
Both decisions relied on the ordinary meading of the stetutory terms Congress chose,
And both ejocted atteupls 10 broaden ose wonls lo cover conduot not leary targeted hy
Congress. Vakeon 1ogetier, these dsciions ojoct the notion that prosecutors can fake iagunge
from u varmowly drawn federal stelute—specialfy one that ilsel federnlios the prosecution of
conduct traditionally Witkin the beartland of State police puweni—and convert it eto a Liemse to
reach aldiiona) conduc by ignoring, rewriting or expansively interprcting the law. Both cases
additionally rejected the notion that statutes abould be broadly construc in ordor to fellate
prosecutions or to 01 auyway diminish the hore on prosecutors to prave uch essontial element
ofa federal charge in conformity with Congress's determinations as (0 what is whi the federal
ctimirial uw and what is oot. The conflict botwoan the Sanus end Cueilay decisions and
CBOS’s great of effeatively unlimited discretionary actharity to Se USAQ lo ske fodcrnl lav to
/ “ov” places where hey have never reached before could vot be stacker.
Sa ‘Thase lessons have no less farce ia the vontext af Kxeouiv Brauch decision-making
than they do in the vunlex! of fudicial interpretation. As you are aware, when federal proscentors
‘oxereias theit disczelion, they hear an independent constitutional obligation to faithfully interpret
the law 25 weitien a to broaden iss scope beyont the mits endorsed by both Congress and
the Presiden. There is no support for CEOS view that the courts or o jury should ultimately
decide where a “wovel” construction of the low is cot. Instead, che Exculive Bruch ffslf
ha non-delegable obligation no to exceed is wuthoritys the poviey of other brunches to check
or remedy suclt wsnrpation doce not Iogitinize executive action thas oxcoeds its bounds. See Tab
12, November 2, 1994 Memorandum from Assistant Attorney General Waller Dellinger to the
Hon, Abner J. Mikva, Counsel To The President, on Presidential Authority To Decline To
Exons Unconstitutional Statutcs, available al bp: tfwww.nsdo.goviolcincnexcut him,
In Gis case, the text, sucture, ued history of the relevant federal stetetes unambignousty
indicate (hal these sztnios vere desigued Lo address problems of a national aad imrcruational
1 ts Seven, bi como wpm, ah acknowl dod th i ofan, fin the planlty apices
dicusion of that wl. "aly peatusive. {isd Sess , Sond, No. 08.1008, lip op 05 (Te 3 2008)
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cope—uo the local condor tha is alleged hero—and cach of these stalutes voquites proof of
tho dofedant’s actoal knowlodge that spl is not prosant in dis vase. Any aCmpe to steeich
ho language of thane SaHUICS 70 cover this case would be misuse of the Taw and contrary fo
expres logilative intent. In shor, the elements under cach federal siatuto—1T8 LLS.C. §§ 1591,
2422p) wd 2423(b)—are mat swsied be.
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18 ULS.C. § 2422(h) requires the goverxaent to prove beyond a reasonable dont Gt he
defendant eagaged in communications over un infersits facility ., the Intemat ar pou) with
Four cancurent intents: (1) to knowlagly (2) persuade, induce, entice or coer, ar scape fo
pecsunds, induce, entice, or coerce (3) a minor (4) to engage in prostitution or criminal sexual
sclivity Jor which dhe persn can bo charged. Mr. Epsin’s conduct docs nat satisfy the
elements of § 242206). Each eleman zust be individually stretched, and thee conflated fn a
tenuous ¢xain to eacompass the alcgod conduct with any individual vioian.
As the statue makes clear, he essence of this crime is tha communication ftsolf 5ot the
resulting act. The Coun of Appeals for tie Eleventh Cirouit, in AMurrefl, undeuscorss the poiatz
The defendant in Hailey contended that attempt ander § 2422(h) ‘requires the
‘spscific intel t camnit illegal Sexual wcts rather than just the intzat to persuade
solicit the minor vietin: to commit sexu acts” fd. at 638. In response, tho
{ ‘court held [while it may bo ese fos there to bo # separation between the intent to
-. persuade and the follos-ip inten 0 pexform the act aft perstasion, they aro twa
eleauly separate and ditforant inteats and the Congress has wade. clear choice 1
criminalize pessuasion snd to arent 10 persuade, not the perfoemmce of the
sowul acts Grwselvoa. Hence, a conviction ender the statute only requires a
finding that the defendant had an intent (© persuade or to attempt fo persuade.
ited States v. Mureell 368 130 1283, 1287 (kth Cir. 2004) (citing United Stores v. Bailey,
225 F.3d 637, 638-39 (6th Cir2000)). Thus, the targeted crim conuct must occur through
the intarstate Lacikity, not thaasafcr, aud the sciender clemenr must be present ut the time of the
call or Internet confuct.
In this case, hewever, Mir. Epsteia did not use my intersiate fcilly to communionte any
ilagat intention in thi case: 13 phoue culls were mado by his assistants in the courso of setting
up many olher sppnimmonss, Neither u conspiracy chargs nor u charge of aiding and abetting
can fulfil the piers rea 1cquisetnent hee. fodcd, neither Mr. Epstein nor his assistaats knew
whetbee sexe! activity would ueseasaily rout floc: a scheduled massage. Abd cecléaly, na
such ustivity was over discussed on the phonc by eicher Mr. Epstein ar His aesstuts. Tnlead, a1
th record in this case males clear, many appointments resulted in no illegal sexual activity, and
‘often, 35 sonfirmued by the musscuscs’ own testimony, several individusls wo were contacted by
‘phage visited Ms. Epstein's hase and did nor pecform a massage at all. When: sexual activity
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did oso, i was waialy sel pleasing mastwbotion and cot necessily illegal, but spontaneons
smd resulted frou face-to-face canversaions during the massage. Thus, the fact that Mr. Fpstein
fater may have persiaded amy particular masseuse 1 engaye in unlawful activity durlag the
massage docs wot work retrosetively to Tae tho earlier scheduling phon call an offeuse nde
§2422(b). Nox is (here any evidence that women who retumed to Mr. Fpstein’s home time aud
Again ware somehow coerced or indaced aver a facility of inferstals commerce to 40 $0.
The fist essentiel lament of § 2422(8) that “Tw Jhuover, using the ena ex any facility or
meas of inerstule or forcign commerce” by ils plin language, requiss that Ge
soruaication, which is the cssence of ho crime ar ils actus reus, tako place duriug fhe use of
the facili of inlerstole commerce (in this case, alike (he vust majority of Internet chat room
ating opeiafions, 4 telephone). The statuto fs not ebiguows. IL requires that fho orimiaal
covciuct occur while the defendant is “using” (i. engaged in the communication), not thoreafer,
Given ie utter lack of direc cvidaos against Mr. Ipslin, prosccators have sigaaled that
they ‘tend to offer purely circumatanial case if (his mer procscds to trial—sssentially
gulag tat “routine wd habit” evidena could sbsitute for actual prof that an utarstite
facility was used to solicit sex from minors, Thus, despite the fuct that the calls hemos were
not made by Mr. Epstein and did not contain tho ncocssary explicit communication @ knowingly
induce minors to provide sexual favors for MORcy, proscctiiars are seeking to tum the phrase “arc.
‘ou mvailable™- the same phrase used with frionds, chiropractors, aad trainers—nto a ten-year
Fi manducry prison sentence. Lu any case, tho pmsecution’s alleunated wmgment regarding
{ “routing and habit” will also not ft the facts of this case. The Wiluess {esGimony at issue makes
clear that thers was 10 clear “routine or hahit™ with rospect to the fnleractions ul issue. And in
those unprecticiable instances where sexual contact reste, it Was a product of what acura
after the benign phone couuusication, not during the call iscll
Tue prosecution's theory of iability—hat a call 1 person merely to sehodal visi 10
tc defendant's residence followed by « decision made ot the resident o engage in prokibiied
sexual tivity is sulciem—camot survive ther 2 “pla Lngusye” Les or the le af Juity as
they have beea auhoritatively construed fu the recent Suntas wl Cusllar cases. “The samits
anor be read otherwise. As ths Cusllar decision makes clear, « proper interrelation of 4
federal. camiaal state is guided “hy the words of the vperaive statutory provision,” not by
autsids objoctives. such as those fai itating sucoesstul prosecution. Sez Cuellar, supra, Sfp op.
37. As Justice Alito stated is bis concurring opin, the government must prove not jurt ic
“offost” of the secretive transportation, but also that “pelitioncr knew thal xchicving one of these
effects iss 0 design (i.e. purpose) of the transportation” of currency. Cuellar v. United Sates,
prs 553 U.S. Slip op. At 1 (Alito, J. concurring). Similarly, it is not enough thas ou effect of
a communicalion scheduling a visic botsvoen Mr. Epstein md a minor was that there might be
subsequent Suco-to-face inducement. Tustead, the watute, as drafted, defines the crime as the
communication al domands that far wore be proven than that tho use of an interstate vilty
rowalicd in ator mocting yhere even ua inducement (43 opposed fo a solicitation was made.
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‘The prosecution ws 1ovor represented to coun that they have evidence that would
prove that the inducement or caricament (0 engage in illegal sexual gets occurred over the phone
(or Tenet). The proscaution’s referecces to “roulins and habit” evidence thal would substitute
for the explicit communications usually found in the. tmuscripts from chal roms or sting
operations is lemuas 2 host, In essence, the prosscation would bo alloging communications
understood, but mol spoken, by two people, ume of whom was usually a secrelary or asiatan,
Sopcating (he acrur reus aud the mens rea, however, and promising criminal labihly on
persuasion thal might occur after the cummhunication, or on the Gxistence of a specifi inicat fo
sugage in illege] sex with a minor that arise afer the communication wovld viola the bedrock
prnciple of criminal av: that predicates lisbility a the cancurreace of the act and the criminal
staie of nisl. Even if, angiendo, the communication and mens rea could be separated (3
premise which iv ul odds with he requiransnt of concurrence), Mi, Epstein denies that the
Frerval proof demonstrates much a posteen or practice. Instead, the ovidnce compellingly proves
has there wos no regularity of predictabilicy to the content of the communication ur in what
occured at meetings that wore tolephanicelly scheduled (netoding those that are the subject of
his invostigatios).
A second events] clomcnt of 2422(b) requires that tho defendant “kowwingly” induce,
persuade, entice or cacree a person believed to be awinor. *.. . [K fmowingly induces...
requires the Court e define inducement so it is consistent with fs ordinary usage sad so the term
is nor 50 browd that ic submis the separate slututory farms of “criices” and “persuades.”
/ Irdncemant has a common logal moaning that has been endorsed by the govermead when it
{ porates to marrow the affrmalive defense of entrapment. /nducement TIUSt be MORE in “ere
cL solicitation” it must be mare than an off or the providing of an eppormuiy lu enguye in
prohibited conduct. See, eg. United States v. Sanchez Berrios, 424 F.3d 65, 76-77 (1 Gir.
2003), United Staicy v. Brown, 43 124 018, 625 (117 Cic. 1995). The government caunot fairly,
or consiston: with the rule of lenity, advocate @ broader deffaition of the rams som when it
expands u citizen's exposure 1 oriminal iiability than whea i mits the ambit of an affiamative
defense to crimina; conduct. IF the term ja ambiguous, absen clr Congressional inteat on the
issue, the Court's dovision in Santas requis (hat the Natrower ruther them the broader deflition
he used.
The facts simply do not prove Mr. Tpstcin's culpabilicy for knowingly inducing or
persuading minors. Firat, in tho case of masseusen who sgroed or oven songkt to return to sce
Mr. Epsieln un succossive occasions, there is no evidence that thcto was any inducement,
parsussion, eaticement or costeion over the phone. And, for messenses seeing Mz. Epstein for
the first ime, there was geacrally no telephone cantact with Mr. Epstein and there was po
loowledye that any third panty al Mr. Epsicin’s spsvific direction was inviting the fo Ar.
Epsiein's horse over tae phone athe than in face-to-face leetings. The women who visited Mr.
Epatein's hame were all ends of friends. Contrary to the fucks in this case, § 2022(b)'s
Knowing judscarent element is essential 10 federal liability and. given 1s hefty minimum
‘mandatory punishaneat, it should not be interpreted as strict lability statute.
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There is insufficient cvidonce that Mr. Tpstein (argeled miners, as required. The
svidcutiary pattem Coes not evan aswblish willful blindness since Mir. Epswin took sieps 1
nsw Lis visitors were aver 18—aud certainly took non lo void knowing. Bu, even if (he
‘goverment canfends that it possess ovideaos that could demonstrate that Mr. Epsteia kuew or
should have Lown or suspected that 8 small muenber of the msseuses wero mndernge, that woul
#6 net wake (és un uppropriatc case for federal, sober hun site prosccution. The federal
stitutes were nol intended tn superseds state prosecutions involving ikalated instances of
underage sex. Insleud, the forers) statutes were inlendel for large-scale Tiogs or or an
individual viho was engaged, while vaing intestate Facilities such as the Intemet, wich the willl
targesing of wis.
The govemment's svidencs, oven when stretched ta the limit, will not show a pattecn of
targeting undecuge pens for illegal scnual activity. A fedecal prosecution shoal not becorue
contest between the prosesution aud defense over wheiher the defindant knw, suspected ar
sould have known whether a particular person was ur wis mot over age. The Listory of cases
brought under this slotte make ceyatal clear that knowldge of the defendant regarding the age
of the women is cequired—ither by admission ur by incontrovertible transcripts of
conversatiaps (i.e. stings aperations which require repeated acknowledgment of the defendaat’s
aearencss of the victims’ age). Hven sacs with absolute ibility shoul mistake rogarting age
rarsly prozocute cases where definitive proof Js lacking (Palas Beach County rarely docs and
when it docs, it imposes house amost scatcrecs). This is a matter for the exercise of stole
/ prosecutorial discretion aad nul federal mandatory minioin SErutes hal were not intended to
{ cover such conduct.
A third eosentol clement of § 2422(5) is she requireaneal that the govemmens prove that
th defendant actualy believed that the person heing persuaded (coerced, et) was a minor &t the
time of the ommudication. See e.g, Offousc (struction 80, Eleventh Circuit Patton Jury
Izstnuctions-Crininal (2003) (“The defendant can bo ford guiky of that offere only 1. the
defiant believed tat such individual was less than (18) years of age”); United States v.
Mune, 368 F.30 1283, 1286 (11% Cir. 2004) (§ 202200) requires thot the defendant nervingly
target minor). Luportantly, then, all the cloraeats must be proven with respect to a speciic
. peop. Hoviever, we wre Lold thet the majarlty of proof is sw more than toll records, not
recorded conversations or ntemet cha rnscripts, but toll revords ard pechaps a memory of
whit wis said years ago on a partcnlar cali for a panicular tequest from # particular person
acting at Mr, Epsieia’s direction.
‘Two final points boar sposial emphasis ere. The state, which according to Santos and
Cuellar must bo narrowly construed, also quires that the fudveement be cugage in
prostitution or sexual accivity “for which {the defendant] ean be charged.” 18 1i..C. § 2422(3).
However, simp prostinution is sot defined (or made punishable) in the US. Co, and iste lave
thus supplics the appropriate reference point, Undar Florida kaw, “prostittion” entails. the
“giving or receiving of the body for scxual activity for Lice,” Fla. Stal. § 796.07(1)a), ané tho
tem “sexual activity” is limiled ta “oral, anal, or vaginal penetrution by, or union with, the
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sexual organ of another; anal or vaginal penemtion of other by any other Gbject oc the
bundling ox fondling of the sexual org of another for the purpose of mastwiation.” Fla. Sta. §
T9601). Also, the Florida Supreme Cowt jury Instructions define prostiion as involvias
“youl inforcousse.” As a ml, topless massages- even ones: for iro that include self:
stinhation— fall outside the ambit of the satcrlaw deffuion of prostitution. Abscat proof
bzyond a rezsouable doubt tha, al the critical time of the communication, Mr. Epstein bad a
specific inn to persuade anoiier to Sngags in prostitution or “sexual activity,” as dufined by
Florida law, be canal be sity of an offense under § 2423(b).
As iowpurtant, the plain language of the phrase “for which ry person can be charged”
nccessacily excludes eels 35 to which fhe state's statute of Fmitetions has rr. Under Florida
Jaw, prostitution and prossbuion-Telatod offeuses are misdemeanars in fhe second degree for x
fist violation” See Pla. Stat. § 796.07(4)(a). The limitations period for a misdemeanur in the
socond degree is one year, and there i 10 ting provision based upon the victim's age. See Fla.
Stat. § 775.150). Tren xs to allcgasions of third dee olanics, the state of limitations is
threc yours. Thus, ny conduct allcged fo Lave occurred bofore mid-Jue 2003 cant be
changed os @ mndter of state law and ths cannot be a predicate for a § 212200) offense. evea if
the federal sue of limitations has not run on aay given § 2422(h) offense because of the
iengthics statuto codified in 18 U.S.C. § 3282. Thus, no prosecution under § 242206) can be
brought hasod pan inducemmeat of prostitution or soxval activity for which Flrids's stante of
icnitation has ror, Furthermore, in Tlorida, the statute of Eanitations docs mot simply give ries fo
¢ a uffimuative defense, On ie contrary, slatuto of lutations “creates & substantive ight which
4 prevents prosceution aud conviction of an individnal afte the state bus run.” See State v. King,
282 So. 24.162 (Fla. 1973); Tucker v. State, 417 So. 24 1006 {Fia. 3d DCA. 1982) (citing
cases).
Given he one-year stetate of fimilations, any conduct thai might amount to prostitution
or other chargeable sexual activity thal ceed bofore one year from Loday is not coud for
hich any person a0 be charged with criminal offense. Also, given the these year statute of
imitations for third degree clones, uny allegations of illegal sisle criminal conduct. that is
clamificd as o third Cegree felony cannot ho chargod In the state and, concomitandy, caniot be
the basis for a fedecal charge ander § 2422(0), 1 tho Gxicat that I oceurred—sa did almost al of
the pivotal allegations (e.g. the [INC c52tion which was made in March of 2005)
prior to wid-June of 2005.
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18 USC. §1591, a acx iraflicking statue, pravidas up 0 40 Years” imprisonment for
anyone (1) who recruit or nhixins by aay mens u person In inforstate commerce (i) knowing
hat (ke person i under 18 and (ii) keowing that the person will be caused to engage in a
commercial sex xet. “The ros: Leiuous of crimes, described on tie CEQS website, full within
is statute ind includ the buying and selling of children aud the forced servitude of third-world
Imatigrants brought 0 tis country 10 be enslaved. Mr. Epstein’s bebisvior ia nowhers sar the
Beasland of thin statute. “This stavate has alan boen proviously reseeved for prostitution rings
evolvi violence, drugs and force. In sark comirass, her is uo jurisdictional hook that brings
is. Epsivirs conduct within the ambit of (he state, and securing a prosecution on thea facts
ould eequize: u court to act aside both reason und precedent fo coat a local ‘Tokn' with 2 sx
slavery crime. IL can not bo said that Mr. Epstein engaged in trafficking and sluvery nor did ho
Knowingly recruit ar abiain widcrage women with knowledge iat they would be caused to
engage in a commercial acx act. THUS, prosecuting him veer this statute would expend the lave
fae beyoud its scope.
Tu the extent there are cases where prosccivors tink that Me. Tpstein should have known
thir carlin women wats underage, there i no evidence hat Mr. Epstein “caused [them] to
engage 3 commercial acx act” The (em “cavse” naturally implies (he application of same.
£011 of force, coercion, or undue presses, bul there is no cvidcace that Mz. Epslein’s infeructions
wih the women were smything but consensul. Again, many of he women phoned Mr.
Epstcin’s assistant (hesmaelvos in ove to determine whether he waiod a coassage. Nor can the
; cause roquireaent be proved sitpply by the uct that Mr. Rpstein compensated the women. Aller
£ 3E. the slalule elsewhere requires that the women “engage in commercial sex ac” which by
dcfiition mess (hat they would have received something of valuo in exchiage fr sexual
scrvices. Luteipreting Lhe atatat to authorize prosecution whenever a commercial sex act results
stom solicitation thus would render tho fern “caused” superfluous, and wavld make every ‘Jol’
who incerets with a usdecuge proitute guilty of a federal erimo—sven where the iTusaction.
i entirely local. Read in context, then, there is io doubl thu the statute targets pimps and sex
teaffickers who kucwingly obtain underage girls and direct tem engage in prostistion. The
isnot a shred of evideuce thet Mr. tein (or his assistanis) id any such thing, and be csunot be
proscested unior his statute.
The Cuiar und Santos decisions also foreclose a prosecution under § 1591. Just as the
fedecal rooney laundering statute did not coe down lo a proseription against Transportation of
criminal proves that aro hidden, the sex twallicking of children statute cannot be builed down
and expanded to 4 federal proveription of commercial acyval activity with persons who lum out
tobe below Ge agoof 1H,
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18 U.S.C. § 242301), a statu cnactad to avevent sex tourism, provides up 0 30 years of
impnisonment for anyone who tvels across stats lines (i) for the purpose of engaging in (i)
illicit sexual conduct with a mainor. Neither of those elenieats is selisfod hore.
Mr. Tpstein did not mave) to Palin Beach for the purpase of cngrglae in sexual uctivity
with & finer, within the meaning of the statute. The evidence is indisputable that Palm Bech
was were Mr. Kpatcin spon most of is discretionary me, ad that is travels to Palm Beach
Svert were rips Tetumng oft to is home of twenty years—nor the cacapades of a se ouriat
olf to same destination. inextricably iertwined with the required significaut or dominant
pucpose of that tip ta be (© have “illicit sexcol conduct” Fpetcin’s mips to Tabn Beach were
simply those af a businessperson saveliog homme for weakends or stopping 0¥er on bis way Lo or
from Nexw York sud St. Thomas of to visit bis sick und dying mother fn the hospital for months
on eud. Tle certainly did not 5avel 10 1s hom: in Florida for the domsinm purpose of augiging
as ssl condsct with a parson sho he knew was under 18 when be did not pow, at the tine be
decided 0 uve, from whom be 3s to receive a massa, ihe were tn reccive one ot all
In Cuellar, th wnanizions Supreene Court linked the term “design” in the money-
Laundering stants 10 the 61s “purpose” und “plan,” nd stressed that those ters all exited
he defeadant to “Formate a plan foi; devise” “(lo create ar contrive for a particular puspuse oF
effect’; fourry aut] [a] plan or scheate” o¢ “Uo coneeive and plan aut in the wind.” Sti. op. al
12 (citing dictionary definitions). The same link is present here, and i¢ simply caunoc be said that
Mr. Epstein’s design, plan, or purposs ia wali (o Pulm Beach was to engage bn illicit sexual
4 conduct with minor; his design or plan or purpose vas simply Lo ret to his how,
Any consruction of § 2423(6Y's “for the purpose of” language 1 include pups
begun the dominant purpase of the (zavel would run fous of the rule of Lenity aud due process
principles divcusacd carlicr, Any attempted prosecution of Mr. Epstein undar a mote expausive
consiruction of the “for the puzpose of” Tanguage would sien violate the sspararion of powers
douse. Congress, which seliciod the “fr the purpose of guage signaled uo clea iuteution
to wake it “ederal crime whenose: an actor has engaged in flict sexu conduct folowing is
crossing of state fines as ong as if migkt be sad Gal sexual uetvity at his destination was among
the activities be pursued there. Congress well knows how lo writs a statu in this field which
clmninaies » purpose roquitement. Se 13 U.S.C. § 2423(c)(“Any United States citizen or lien
admilled for permanent residence who travels in foreign commerce, md engages in asy iis
sexaal canduct with anothar person .”). § 24230) is not auch a statute.
Federal cont decisions watering dovm the “for fhe prmpose of * requirement fly in the
305 0f the two Supreune Court decisions addressing that ieee, See Hansen » Jif 291 11S.
559 (1934), Mortensen v. United States, 322 U.S. 363 (1984). Suntan and Cuellar speak lourlly
aud cleady againat prosecutors socing such elasticity in federn] critcinal tulutes, including those
enacted o protect imparan federal interests. La wises involving the federalizasion of &civicy
hat is within tho States historic police power, Cungreas mus! speaic with pacticuly clit, See,
e.g, Will v. Michigaw Day's of Stic Police, 491 US. 58, 65 (1081).
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We hie noc been able (0 find a single feral proscoution base on facts fis hose bat
have voluminous evirence of fedesal prosecutors routinely doolining fo bring charges in cates far
I0cs egregious than this orc. To take just ane obvious sample, federal prosecators have self
consciously refrained from volvement in the Fiecally dozens of sexucl cases of former priests,
opting insieud (0 allow scasoned state prosecutors (hike the ones in this cass) fo puree tae
accused former clergymen. That Is so despite (1) the Jago mmber of victims, (2) tho vast
geugruphic diversity of the cases, and (3) the fuct tht scr of these cases invalve allognions
tha the dsfendant forcibly molested, ubused, or taped literally dozens of children—inluding
some us young, a five yuars okd ver a period of years, Nouethless, federsf proscntors Rave
aot hesitaed 10 fe their state counterparts pursue hose cases free rom federal infertetsnce
‘oven though tho sentences aseted out vary greatly on aceoun of the fo thal “[eJriminal pecalies
are specific b Incalites or jucisdictions™ The facts of ths case, which involve the sociation
of cunsemaual tapless massages and some sexual contact, catiely ia the privacy of his home ud
alist endrely hy women over the age of 8, pale in carparison fo the outright sexual shasc and
degradation of preteen miners i any of the priest cases.
Nor docs this case bea any of the hallmarks tha typify the cuses that fodera) prosectiors
fave puso ander the federal talutes al suo hore. When asked, (he closest case suggested by
the prosecuters was United Suies v. Boskm—and it hardy could diffe more from Mr. Epstoi’s
case. In Zoek, the datondant was charged with conspiracy v distibu‘e cocaine and coca
base lo minors, ia vialafion of 21 US.C. §§ 845, 8411), and 859(): being feion in
; possession of a firearm, in violation of 18 US.C. § 922(aK1); and scx taficking of children in
{ violion of 18 TS.C. §3 371 and 1591. Ciniied States v. finehm, Case No. 3:04CRO00S (D.
ke Alosia 2004). Diochm's actians, unlike Mr. Epstein’s. also hud strong interstate nexus: Boehm
puichased an distributed large quanites of erack cocaine end cocaine that traveled im inleratate:
covumerve, aud he wed is how nc hotels (Which vere used by terete travelers) lo purchase
drugs and distibute them to minors whilo ato arremgine fo these minors fo ave sex wilh him
a0 ortezs. Intel, Bock mot only (1) purchased cocaine in large quantitios; (2) istebuied Ge
drug £0 wins; (3) poseesazd iliogal ircanns (4) and avenged forthe minors 1 have sex with
othr meaibers of the conspiracy in oxchange for digs; but (5) mittod to Kaowic the ages of
the adividuals involved Here, by contrast. os previous stated, al of tho conduct look place in
Me. Epsten's private hom in Palm Beach Chere was no for-profit entoepiise, 20 intersale
oupaaeat; no use by Mr, Epstein of an instrumentality of interstate commorce; 20 violenoe; no
force: 0 alcohol; na drugs; no gas; Aud no child pornography.
Ts vaptnspiop soon rghenors 2004_02_27_Jokaley 2061 02 27 Teey domes 3 hem
pris
© In, Rom and 2s soles dist dogo pT 12 pesos beeen te 450 3 ad
21. Bohn io tad a prot en Her re tha cml show io was a ems fo tony
Poult Bad ben Souviead of pin both tives year. gi) sad 8 fc sea oh sr. vy 7 of
Sentencing szagp. 2).
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{ To the extent there is a sinilar, bul mare cyrogions, local Florida case on the books, iia
that of Burry Kubin, » former North Miumi cily atomzy acccsed of havin sei wilh underage
‘prostates and videntaping the sessions. Mr. Kutm ploaded guilty on May 18, 2007 in 2 Migmi-
Dade County covrroom as art uf mm agreement with State prosecutors end he reseivetl five
years probation and a withholding of adjudication with uo requirezomt to Tegler 35 3 1X
ofterder—all without 1 shied of involvement hy federal prosecutors, who dechined tn proscento
him, Indeed, given the wide use of the telephone in today’s Society, it gives u Tue pmaccuinT
carte blanchc fo ura au local crime inlo a foal offense. Given the fellerul government's
desir 10. abstain {fos proseculing that case, # is Hrd 1 undenend how the federal
prosecutors responsible for this case think thas fhe So's westment of Mr. Epstein samen
eaves futeral interests substantially unvindicstcd, There is simply na busis for the fidral
Ironccutors’ Gisparatc restent of Mz. Tpsicin.
Summary of the Evidence
Fiaally, we wish 10 share new evidence -obiainel through discovery in oonncction with
the civil lawsuits Sled in this maszor—vehich confirms hal further foderal involveanent in this
martes vould be imuppropriate. “This testimony taken to date categorically confirms that (i) Mr.
‘Epsteu did mol tare micas; if) women under 18 uflen lied to Mr, Epstein bos thei ages: i)
Mis. Epstein did nol (rave in foterstatc commerce for the purpose of engaging in illogal saxual
activies (iv) Mr. Epstein did not uss the Litcaiet, telephone or any ather moan of afrstnte
communication © coerce ur entice alleged viotis; (+) Mr. ipsicin did nat apply force or
costcion to obtain sexta fevers; and (v1) all sexual activity that occurred vas unlamedd and
g purely consensual. The women's own statements. made under ueth—demonsinue the shsoncs
{ of a legtiraate fadera) concer in his matter, and highlight the serious practical difficulties an
- attempe! foderal prosecution would face.
+ Mx. Epstein did sul recruit or obtain those women in interstate commerce (necessary
for a coaviceion wader § 1591).
o I rc tat she id mot kaw Mi. Lpsicin snd bad
absolulely no oontact with him be it through Interne, chat rooms, email,
or phome—prior ta their amival at his home. See Tub 13 JN.
(depusition), . 3.
© I is sted that (ike many other women) sho fist wt Mr.
Epeicin whon her fiend, ee invodnccd her to him, See Tab
14, JETS. Ap. 4-5.
» bir. Epstcin was 191d the girls wero over 18,
e Ly Ed admitted 1 Jying to Mr. Epstein shout her age.
See Tab 13, (deposition), p. 37 (0. $a you told Jeff that you
were 18 years old, comet? A. Ves).
© IN a1] that he not only always made sure she hou a ke 1)
with hes und lied to Mr. petoin by telling kim she was 15, but that she
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\ also had conversations with other women in which those amen hoped
that “loffey dide’t ind out [heir] age.” See Tah 6, Mille Tr, p. 45.
o [IR so ste thal sc: “sould ell my gir ieads just |
approached me. Make surc you tefl him you're 18. Well, thexe girls that
brovugl, Tknow that they sere 15 01 19 or 20. An the rs thet | didn't
Kor acd T doa know if they wero lying of not, I would say mike mire
that sou tel iw you're 18. ez Tab 6, JTC p. 22.
o IN <iq th Ed ber say that she was 19 if asked. See
Tab 14, ET. 8.9.5.
o IN: ti she “old him | was 19." See Tab 5, IE
1%. p. 16,
«Ms. Epstein did not kaow hese women would be caused 1 ongags ia a sex uct
(necessary for a conviction unde § 1591) end any sexual activity that rook place was
unplanced
o IER sted “soraetimes {Me. Byuicin] Hikes topless massages, but
ou Sow have foo ue you drt wat 10 0. Fe Jt hes
massages.” Sec Tob 6, NET. p. 7.
o I cso sates “fslometimes [Mr. Epstein] just vinted his fest
{ ‘massaged, Sometimes he just winled 1 buck massage." See Tab G, J
% Tr, p19,
«Mr. Epstein did uot use tw erste fasiliy fo communicate an Tioga objective (o
the alleged vies (aocessacy for u conviction under § 2422(5).
= RN confirmed th Mr Bsc never sanaileds texted, or hlted
Mma Internet cut raom with her. See. Tes 13, IRE epi,
».30.
+ Nit. Epstein di uot arget ainors (necessary for conviction under § 2422(k))
© IN stsod, “1 alwys made suee — Iba o ike ID, anyways, saying
thal Twas 1. And (EEE (vo is IE Fiend who bravgh her 10
Mr. Fpsicin’s home) Just sad make sum you's 18 becuse fofticy
dors wait ny wderage is” Soo Tab 6 BRA. Ps
+ Mr. Epstein did not use the phone or the Intenict tn induce proscribed sexual autivity
(necoseary for a couviction under § 242201).
o [IN stated that there vas never any discussion wyer the phono about
her coming over fo Mr. Epsteia's frome to engesse in sexual retivity: “Tho
only thing that ver occurred on any of thes phone cals with BEE
I 0 another assistant] was, “Are you willing to come over, or,
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{ “Would you like to come over and give a nussage.” See Tab 1A JE Te
Ap ls
o I confruncd that she vias informed that she was going % Mr.
Tpalein's house to giv him 2 massage and nothing cles, and that ao ore
“sail enydiing t [hr] on tac telephone [or over the Interict] shout sexual
activily with Mr. Kpstein.” See Tob 13, ISSN (J cposition), p. 24-
25
o I <0 consumed that no une wssacistcd with Mr. Epetin ever
ined to call her or contact ber through he Infonet to tey 1 persuade,
inducs, ontico or cosrce hes to engage in any scual activity. See Tab 13,
I cy ositio, p. 3.
= Mz Cpstein did noc travel to Patra Beach for the purpose of engaging in aucun]
uutvity with a ménor (ncccssees for a conviction under § 242305).
© Mr. Epstein speat al lewst 100 days a year in Palm Beuch for fanly
PUIPOses, buses purposes, end social puposes, and to maintsin a home.
© While ia Palin Beach, Mr, Epstein routinely visils emily members and
close friends. has seen Kis primary care physiciom for checlenps and
[oscribed tess in the Pahn Feash aren, aud wail her deat in Apil of
200%, togularly saw iis mother wha was hospitalized and then
¢ camyalescd in south Florida.
Te © From 2003 though 2005 there was no Tonth when Mr. Epstein did mot
spend at least one weekend in Palm Esach,
© The Palin Beach area is thc home baso for his ight uperations, for
wairxenaace olbis aircraft end for periodic FAA inspections.
‘© Additionstly, Mr. Fpsicin’s pilots and enginezes ll resided in Florida
+ Mr. Bpatein's sanduot did not fvolve force, coercion or violence oad my sexual
activity that took plaso was consensual. The witness fenscripts are replete with
statements such as tho following:
o IEEE sci tut she ws not pasuaded. induced, enficed or
coemed by uayons to engage in any scxcal activi. See 1b 12, J
Tr. @eposition), p. 31
o IE cec [Mr Eosein] never isd to fores me do arything”
Sex Tah 14, 3
o Red, “1 suid, | told Jeffrey, 1 heard you like massages topless,
“Aad be’ like, yeah, he said, bit you don't have ( tio anything that you
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don't feel comfortable with, And T suid okay, but | sillinely took i ofE"
See Tb 6, IN.
o IN 150 stored “[sfomne ils didn’t wast (0 go (opless and Jeffrey
didn'Lmind.” See Tab 6)
+ Ms. Epstein did not engage ia uring.
© Mir Epstein’s smessauge hooks show that several masseugcs would regularly
all Mr. Epstein’s usistants, without any prompling by Mr, Epstis oc Lis
assistants, asking to visit Mr. Epstein a his home.
o I 1c “2 fot of girls beyged me fa bring them back {to Mr.
Epstein’ house.”
“There vies 06 alvuhol or drugs involved, 2 fact that ia mot in dispote.
© Mr. Hpstein bs 00 rior eriminal history, a fact that is nat in dispute.
+ Thos women do not see themstves ag victims.
oI dicatod wider oat thet tho KP] abamptod to persuade ber that
she was in fiat 8 “victin” of feral orimes hou she herself repeatodly
confirmed hat she 595 nok. Seo Tab 14 EN, p. 9-12 snd Tub 15,
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Jeiftey Epstein, 4 solf-made businesstaan wilh mo prior criminal history, should not bs
prosecuted federully for conduct that amounts to, the solicitation of prostitution. A federal
Iroscevlan based un thes facts would be an unprecedented exercis of federal purwer, & misses
of federal rescurces, und a prosecution that sould carry with i tao appearance, if not the reality,
of wnwerraned selectivity givon the icongiuity belween the facts 15 develop in his matter
and tha factaal paradigms for all othor reported federal prosecutions under each of the three
stantes being considered It would require the purmit of 8 novel legal theory never beers
smctioned by fedecal luw—and that indeed is inconsistent with cach of the slalules prossentors
hava ideutified. Acconingly, we respectully requsst that you direct the LS. Atlomey’s Office
for the Souter District of Hlorida to discontinue its invokeoanont in this meter, und totum
cosponsibility for this case to he State of Florida.
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The manner in
which eden prosceutars Lave pussued the aficgations against Mr. Fpsicin is Wghly irregular
aud viarrans fll review by the Department. While we repeslediy have Tuised our concer
xogavdig misconduct with the Ugited Slee Aftomey's Office in Misa (the "USAQ™), nut cnly
a it has remained unwilling fo adda these ins, but Me; Epsloin's defense coussel hus been
instructed Lo limit is contact to the very prosecitors who are the sybjoet of this miscondeet
Souspleinl. Far your review, tas docament somarizes the USA's conde i 115 case
Buckgroond
1. Ia Marsh 2005, the Palm Beach Police Department opened u criminal invesigation of
Palm Beach resid, Jcfiey E. Spsien. Tho press Las wily repomcd that Ms. Epstein
isa close friend of farnee Tresident Bill Clirton.
2 Ta July 2006, afer a iutensive probe, including interviews of dozens of wilussses,
reluma of mmcrous document suhposnis, tanlipl rush pulls 2d the Sxecution of 4
avarch warmant ou bis resilenc, Mr. Epstein way indicted hy a #iorida Grand Tuy on ane. E
‘count of elany solicitation uf prostiusicn,
3 Ina publicly veleased leter, Pulm Hoach Polive Chief Miehaet Refer criticized the Gand
Jury's decision and the Stale Attorney's handling of the cass. Shorty ater the Grand
Jury's idiciment, he Chief took the unprosedeated step of releasing bis Depantnieat’s
Fi saw police zens of the iuvestigation nchuding Detective Recarey's wicdied write
a 15ports of witness statements and witness der cation infomation), that ware later
Proven 10 be highly inaccurate transcriptions of witnesses” actuel stteznents. The. Chiol
also publicly asked foderal authotiies to prosecute case.
Jufiey Sloman Becomes Unsolved in Mr. Epytein’s Case at the Eaellet Stage
4. In carly November of 2006, Hpateir’s lawyers had thei initial contact with the newly
assigned line federal prosecutor, A. Marie ViZafina. Alliovgh it is extremely wmasasl
for a Fist Assistant United States Attomey lo participate i such a commumicaton,
FAUSA Tefiey Sloman was preset on that very fre phose call.
5. On November 16, 2006, despite that tho fact thatthe investigation exchusivoly concerned
illegal sexus! conde dur massage sessions, AUSA Villafena fesued irolovaut olcial
document vaquosts seeking Me. Epatoin's 2004 ond 205 personal inoomoHax retu,
and ler rubpocuaed bis medical records. See Tob 16, November 16, 2006 Lecter from
M. Villafana,
‘Stowan Becames Personally Tuvoleed in a Dispute Over Another State Sex Case
6. Tn Mirch 2007, FAUSA Sloman reported © local police an atempred tespass by a £7-
year-old mate. Mr. Sloman claimed that the individuel had aticuptd to nies Mr.
Slomun's koe without invitation to wake contact wih i 16-year-old daughter, but he
potied the Young man befor the porpetetor hud im oqo 0 eptes he house. The
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ami iedividual hud proviensly Sed the home of other neighbor aller snoring hat
> house uninvited, when, looking for the bedroom of their 17-year-old danger, bu
mistacaly entered the bedroom of their 14-year-old dsvghiar, toucked her on the Jog and
startled her aweke. State of Florida v. Jonathan Jeffrey Zirulnthaff, Case Ko. FOT646
(une 28, 2007)
7. After u thorough reviews by the Miami Stato Aftomey’s Office, und sex-crines prosecutor
Lau Adams, the juvestigatiun revealod that the defkudant und both the neighbor's 17-
searcld daaghtor aod Mr. Sloman's danghiec were previously sequined. The
defendant was chacged will simple frsgass in connection with his unamhorized cary
Into tse wighbor’s house. 14.
5. FAUSA Sloman, however, donated that the youn: man he registered as u sex offender
and objeciod to any sentence short of ucarerotion. he Assistant State Allomey in
charge of the sex-critnes unit raported Mr. Slomun's oanduct during, the proceedings as
“outrageons.” The defends attoimey described Mr. Sloman as being “oul of control.
Shortly aficr, Mr. Sloman hogan publicly deriding the clected State Attorney, his office
and Lhe state process for prascenting sex offeases, us “a joke.
‘Unauthorised Tucries in Disregard of the United States Atfornev's Manual are Used
9. In June 2007, AUSA Villafana subpoenaed the invostigaring ageut of Epstein’s atrornoy,
Roy Black in clear offort 0 invade the defense cmp. The subpoena was specifically
dialed to Ciscover the investigator's contacts, with sll prospective itarsses, Mr. Epson
‘ acd bis altomeys.! Nat suprisingly. Ma. Villafana issued this subpoena without fhe
L requisite prior approval hy the DOT's Office of Enforcement Opeations. See Unita
States Aflorueys’ Manual, § 913410. When canfrunted, she mislealingly responded
thet sho had consulled with the Departaent of Justice and wos not required to obtain
ORO approval setae her subpocun vias not dicected t “an office physically located
within a. swomey’s office.” Sze Tal 18, December 13, 2007 Letter from M, Villaima at
4 ml. This auswer clearly sugeosts that Ms. Villafana had intentionally misied the
Dspartmont officials about the items that her subpoena sought *
| The abpoci swught, sromg ober things: “Al documents 3%) {aortic ted om mabe of 1s
ehioaship betvcct [in investor dio Hs fn] ad Mi Sutbey Te, (chiding bt aol friar n+
reco of he Gatos hin seyioss were performed... (lop lg on tacos of dt of uimaicaions
lr. Fes (o wit Ui pony mn Mr. Epsii's Bal, pots cinco eaetaoks 44 tor ve
{hts in ba copy ox cleo on) for oy peiod when work was pickin un tui OF. Bi of
he a Sommmaninan wis 2a0 wits Me. Spain (ox ih 3 0zd party oa Mi. Episi's bell). ee Tb
17 Tua 15, 203 Sebvsoena to Willis Riley ole Kiel, 15
7 eed i ac rast of fw lhe een nstmes which Villa laced eons miTpresetations fire
a cour. On oly 31. 2007, io the rami ry qarion aii out of dis se, she fied hs "Deaton uf
Homers Rese” stacking Sta deecio’s SFG 8 GOpRO:of sesh arom ie Epecia’s hoe. Sue
1 te Cimrt iy Subpoenas Duce Vor OLY-61 awd OLT-¢. No. ¥65) G7 103QWV) (S. Ph. Tuy 3,
E007. Ac he five she fd Detects Kecarey's afd, She Kr coniaivet omens mil
stepisiataivs, eluding oss iste of wimers sweets aud oie sviderce. Second, 9
(Comimont.n)
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10 [st Goenen it nd then vies throm, Two Of ine Sips SND YOu [UST wal Lp 3%
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9 MP: 36 yous in the kilchen area. Wat happens next?
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i i oh mp Qosk, Poe never nen in hau fice his. Ard thn the lady a0 tho
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2 litte {iraudibie) this big and it had a Gruch and a couch and it was ka another
v ro owed hal vs. Aad st lh Orcs, oki oro
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2 A AT RP WY |
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te was numcngous. And them vias fke 4 doot ere and ou open fi and hers i
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16 ke sifting en the conch dght nec. ike against my (hees's big lorey coun. And }
7 sims pink and grec. Hot pink and grzen. Ane tare ;
ki MP: The room ar fhe sofa?
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22 assays, he made 3 phone call but | denl remember whaner he just s3ic. like
2 sd our a, hen 1 of Yeah, dnremanber Ard he mack
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5 501d upline ar 45 | es waking UPSIaIS 1R0r0 140s 3 pictus of hi: Ths
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8 Ht sraulibie} this big and k had a cee Ane a 200 and it was ice ancthe:
a “walking “owards thal wey 30d then walked hands, The hooy wa king foram
3 rd thet Yo my ch an this vias @ botoaun ard fn ws fusne Fioht agair
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2 #20 lve & bation, hatarcom, Rag 56 © siting asa wilt a shower there,
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2 MPL BULGE l2y..50 You're upstairs 5rd you're siticd down and Ina ady's Ibare.
a What is she dang?
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7 I ves Likes doron each sida and un swerds he doo, ers dour lr the :
8 Table. She toch thet out an ines ive 4 safe a7 then he shi pul 1 in he 1
9 midellz 105 1h 8 way, fe lorg ways Ard Then she put ike out th cholh cver it i
i ut he aking anand fh: “cor, | ons a 10 604, he he vas :
it feta b2ring samen, ys, sk hers he ton sas, Ar here ore
” pictures of He, 20kes gra on the wall an here ws ike hee vs he or big
LN 13 msl 07 rized girls” the, bulls. And Han, towards the dour, Ihare wos lke &
crinat hore, Bee 3 bull 1 fh, Eke final) and Lm, ere crwers in #
i and sha oyune 16 ss drawer snd tere wis a winle bunch of lotons. ke 1
L] millions arc ni llores of kinds af loliors. Ane she pied out thee kinds of lotions. i
Lia and put ham on hia en zmmnire kind of “hing wil 8 mirror. Ad she sot if there, i
RE) Anil ther after. she ‘old me, sil hers fo” 3 minutes. Like, just sil Mere, And H
10 eventually he came nan he vias Ike hm Self snd “niko vi of And |
a he's he, 11: b% right bark. you can 19ic off yaur dothes. Ard than ne let. Arg
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2 hers s ike. pictures out there, | thick, | don't remerrber, ie look off bis clothes
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8 was over hare red he wus he go the sons is 51 cock walk past Nm
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© Vie tis. fin nes ther 1 ook thet lotion ad 1 is it an your hands and
" en mass cloceaise on my back cane | An kos how 10 60 12 43d an
1% he's fike telling me where he wou'd like the massage hers anc here, the rgnl to
{ = he It, 301 50s, up rere. S01 was 1 massaging Ei he tard and
Cw stared Kaving 2 carvers, oh irs Foppered fill oe 1 ike
15 {inaudiple) ry ex baylnand {Iwudibic) what's yout heyfrend's nem. Zack. Ant
Ww ne wis Kid of questioriing mi: and then ba said wit, he's Lke, soul you stop?
aT ireedie ge Andi ust stopped ard Fm ike okay Anc be gol off the tahie He
pr Put te omer his. Ho Bont dows anc gal he 10401 and tier he #1 the
® room: and you coud hewr kim, like, you snow, you Guid stvicusly teil waat he
2 ‘ora doin. Jus) bike.
n MP: Idort ... 1won® logk 6t you bui Co what he was foing, what you lieasd. | know
2 it's kind of embamassing but...
21 IE Fe was makicg Kew ses noises. You know, ike... dont. They wore very
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1 Op okay bes making growing noes.
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w Sam ind of massage Sux he 1 lle oh uso your HAUSE) a i rare
6 WP Yousers masiaging hs beck?
1 [I Youn. atm ne, bs Be, cont ous, tan tor 4 sce. Gai
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1 sng my boob. And one | was masseg rg is 200ks and he's he. he's
EY 16, IK0 25 1 wes in I, a vias massaging, bs wi making fe same
a 923 agen Ws, oh my (ios, fs 20 erbarassing 1 do fas. 113 was fe...
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2 he massage: was The a hat an hour bul suse dant know tic tmz 1k wars
3 a hal an hws 10 45 minutes wc ben 1505 done. And then he, | tik he os
4 bs 3 safc samewhers Because UAC ut hie didn Lava bis wade or scmething
5 RECS Hight whee 901 2UL he Oct, he 01 0.62 oul The toed om egair 3na
6 fe ut the owed on agin ard went oul of Vie rin ann He 5 10 an pit
: our eloio: back on. 50 1 put Hothes ick or ane hi walks 1g Gul here
8 %€ ta 500d and He came back ke vitain a secords. Ard nes i
° ores your mores. Ard thr: ho Gave rw $306 fardred dolor b's and they
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" When they're faked i aX. A 15 621 hank you far your Irma And tha hs
1 lL. Ard ha 33d yeu car oe your say 0 and was just walking ard got lost
{ow rause ews 50 many aifnzant roams sed | oat la anc waked back
Ww numeri anc Jes tho uel sn end cing he. guess was ial
5 he Lacy was 510 8% ther 320 looked ak io ard she eoked back al nc fady
3 an en shes ike, Ine forky's ke on, byo [Bouse i: was ime to go cause |
“i uss because | was done And er, 136 wa tof i seme viay we Came in
18 ‘ord foc BE vc oh wy ost JERPOS how 01 you ee i. Lice hows much
" 010 aed 10. We uch i hs pay yous And Fm lice $400. and | was Kind cf
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2 Toad at 118 realy sr: ang she's ke Ting 10 gaze inka 77 sysbals, Ano
2 there went in the ca and hon we aol in the cor JS bee, tel me ses tcc
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2 Marshals An oem, 0 7a 236k 1 Money ard | pt Li ms bck pockel
a Aru i he was 0 Got 13 8G oho happiness 08 Ferhat
4 Rapper. And 51s NE, 01 0 4 ths muy Saturday. HES HK 3 ch
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8 COGNDG ths doer and than clased it,
sw wo cll view rt Dic she sup aig about i
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1 Like inte: Ihe canes: zat bien sha vies Kird of ike giaging and laughing,
2 ie. 1 Ik, ct say, | nan, iT know i (oui a2 She
{ wu was act ag ouprise. 500 kno, a GiGging. Sawa ust of the ping and
" gin aii JI 470 oe Ess or, 373 then wher. was ging
13 the guy tne massage. te goes. | know [snes soon woking wit me fer a
“© ong tins and nen her | came back dota, Ics. sou ory pare mt
we 90 so
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21 J Warsi or oT Mack oom of thos om Td anno Weranals. nd sha
2 Bought clack use
2 WP Gray. Oid vou scefillover that again?
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1 J ink so beau tis ben go rauned. 4% than thats eis |
2 GOIN rsuble With 4 igh. So ater tha, Vim pretly sure § sid. Most kel.
5 WP Det yous speac la her agin?
4 EE o.vecasse got ry cel phone taken andy.
5 MP Oxy. Sogou buvent sew [JI cr hs day you ent 1 Jil kame
o Ell cores
Tor Amyoserw?
2 J veer Tm nape sre
0 HR Howl ye ow Sho... 616 wii Heppner wih your du
wo [I Oker Bucsusa my dud. cite tno ation of ry sister lot me hers shee
n anne nese. Buby istos, on 2 Thursday, was coming hare. And wa,
12 Viecdnseday nigh, ny dag Sake ial he sar the dog borkdng an my dog is
Tw my cid is ke Shek up cruse ne forgets he cog s name and the cog woukint bu
Es quiet. Sc he's lie, I'm taking the dog our. And then ny cud lock ths dog.
ES sid and the dog was wa in LAAs ry 24s use, ke oy da taught he
El vas altaking the animale but my fd, 3 purson. a Bog, don awe Io: a fa:
1 SK Ronee 7 Ts Ber 15 Zack Bcausy Zack cot realy nud ver the while
10 situation.
20 WP Did sau tek Zack waal hid?
71 I voor ar ware unan ha puch wal and Fo fie ry os was 1g hers
2 Are Ba puncher he vial, ie my fac ws nghl fers an he punched fie val
5 ig hot to my face. Ane stared gat ad Une and crying an cating
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12 party sevring on how did you guys acer?
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15 dong what? she said, well. I know this Jeffrey. he
16 Zives on Palm wearh f51ard and 1 bring girls there and he
47 Tikes massages and * was Tike okay. So ¥ asked her, 1
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9 the aussage room 2nd he told me everything. He suid,
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2 in there for the first like five minutes. and the first
3 vine I gave Bin 4 ressage, she left the room and I gave
14 his a massage. And she old me, she says he 1ikes omen
15 topless massages. So I willingly the First time tok off
16 wy op when ¢ gave him a massage and nothing more than
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20 Folim-un weston. You said thet someone escorted you
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16 friends or whatever, but 1 met 3a7Frey. And once | mer
45 Jeffrey, se was a very amcsose guy and T Just © don’t
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17 did’ c went [Mor rian to drive oe amEore. T
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21 browghe gins, Suu 1 got paid $200 tu bring girls.
5 a Oy. 5 let's Talk ince abou she you were
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2 Q. vou seem Tike a nice youry Yady, attractive,
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1 A tcheh
2 GQ. low did that stare?
3 Ae He likes to see different faces
4 Q. So he asked you If you had Friends that jou
5 could bring aver or azher girls
6 A theo,
7 or linia URE TR TOGGERE V8 dosh is.
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2 fey messed GEOL IGIATSE Si hivane tan
2 ieee sad in ERSTE IED
I Q. nd did any bf them xeTY you what happened
2 after thar
25 A. Always, aloays, | even asked them.
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5 !
z okay. And with the other girls, was it the :
2 same as what you did or different?
3 A. veak, yeah. mean, nell, Tuas more willingly
4 to co mora, you know. Like = sate, §REETHEHENE
5 ovemtimon wuteiierobliol FIEIE CHEE BRASENG LER
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7 SORES RR Le or wie wisp ney isha
8 RE
° @ were ther girls char you brought back milsinle
10 vines?
n A A cowl, a coule, but be really Tiked 1 see
py 2 different faces.
ee 1 a vkay. a’ dust wondering are thore sone iris i
16 he really liked and others he didn't like or dic he have |
5 any preferences in terms af blondes, brunettes? |
1 A Ue Tiked girls like ne. i
v 0 okay. hin and attractive? |
1 A. Touess. veah. very attractive wonen. and he
13 GEES RRL SECTIRG
n 0. od you ever bring anybody he didn’t care for?
2 ho tvheuh.
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2 Hon was she different thin the others?
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2 Ae donsn’'L Tike black uoren, obviously. |
3 50 he Tet you knou? te 01d you that? |
s a yeah, bus he was st rice and he still gave i
5 her har 200 sven Though he dida's sven have a massage by i
6 her. i
? GQ. How d5d he = he 5a’ you $200 for bringing J
Beach tri? i
9 A uhh. i
10 and when he Told you that, I mean, that's what
{ AL he told you shat he mould pay you $200 For bringing the
L 2 girls
Bn A yeah. Ha said iF you bring se = 37 you bring
34 me girls, 171 definitely. you know, give you voney,
15 compensate you For your Time and willing to do that for
8 we, yeah.
w Q aad you said at that point you sapped i
18 performing massages for hin?
» AAU that point, © din’ L = iL auld be
20 sporadically like. usually, T had so any girifriends at
21 the tine that, you know, there vere sue new faces to be
2 sav. dad iT mo ome xas maitable, then ESOT go.
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1 some of the thelr names?
> 4. 2 don't remember, ceally. They were Tike nat
3 even friends. THOCRIT TEE BFsbetaes sie Riin &F
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3 © we have = 1 don't know. 5 have sume Bessages
© T guess that some girls’ names that would call Jeffrey
7 nd duave a wessage. there's sume 3s mane thal we
8 refermced. we ware jus: wondering {€ you kre then?
\ 10 WS. BILAFONTA: Jason, do you have that?
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5 MS. BFLAFONTA: We were hoping you did.
15 THe ress: mo, © dont.
17 wy Acer Kxcuaus:
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21 @. well, you brought a black girl. what was her
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25 0. NG Show ECL BRT
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1 A. 7 uant ta kon abut every one you browint ]
. 4 something?
{ 5 A. No, she died. wnfortumaely, she go shol in
6 the head. You guys probably heard 1% on the news. the i
7 got shot in vhe hesd hy This guy. L con's nt to even
Blk about Be because 10 cry. }
9 avs. omar: |
10 Q. Let's taik shout the otter JE. |
11 a, ¥ don't even know. 1 don't know. I con't H
12 non. Ther vers sose girls Tat us 1 would take one
13 time and then I would never talk to again, so I don't
Pa
5 a. iow many girls do you think you brought ro
16 delfrer's bowser
7 A. That's a good question, 1 bring a Tor, Tike
18 maybe -- 1 don't know, maybe 30, maybe 30. TY sas all |
79 bows the moncy 0 na at that tine. i
20 Q. Mow any of the girds thu you brousht, did any
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21 of then leave Sheir names and nuabers and then they vould |
27 eu apnoinmems directly from Jeffrey or did they alwys
2 oo through your
2 A ESHER BARBEIERG ovata.
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H GQ. vou weren't getting paid, right?
3 A. 1 wld them, I said, Dun'i give him your H
L 4 number. H
5 evs. sneronar
© @ It you brought the same girl wore than once, i
7 would you get paid cach tine you brought the or just qev i
8 the initial $2007 1
9 A Fuery single tine © brought « girl, okay. or 1
10 referred a girl, 1 alaays gor $200, always.
1 Q hven 4F she cone a second tine?
I A Yes.
1 ©. vou would get 5200 every tine she came?
1 a ves.
15 a. Good deal. okay. what soot [EE
1 a
7 a. soy J trot vou broueht ta sr. Costein's
18 house.
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( % JR xi
» a here id she go ta school?
a Ashe didn't go to sehaol.
2 [Er——
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21 past. How did 1 meet JR @t « erty or ste vas xy
=»
1 time and Bes HEACI EEL
{ 2 4: you asked her iF she'd be willing to go to
~ 3 Jeffrey's house?
4 PE
5 Q. And ohen -- do you remsmoer shen shat wuld
6 ave dent
? A Actually, 3 couple wicks, 3 counle weeks, T do
8 remonber her. A couple weeks after I set hin
9 Q. sn you brought her pretty sen after you met
Wo erry?
u a uhh,
2 eo. arae $150 IR
13 A. SeEneen gl
1 a. and what happened when you broughe [I
15 A Te sane hing
® a. okay. well, T know thal sometimes you suid
1 hac che girls would Tet you shat happesed?
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18 A. she went in There. she had a massage = she
19 gave a massaou on his Back. she sent 3 couple tines. He
20 Iked her. She went a couple times. (HESSEN HE
21 fie rhe bein £95 SEILER THERE HEHIY
2 UE BERNIE ST AR Ramee 1
23 EECFBERMES and then she went, ¥ think, ike tro
24 times after that, And yeah, he masturbated, but no
25 auching, she didn't - there's no touching of him. Ho
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5 GEBEIEMRTIES RY. his sohidE ae
6 abi dE
7 4. Wow sould —= Boo would you sake uppointents
3 for girls to go over there?
9 A 36 Call them nd they'd say hi. do you vant to
1 go Jeffrey's house? And thay'd say ves or 10 and we'd
naa te
2 a. How Would you Know when Jeffrey was going to be
Bin tam?
t a Gaara vo cold GOT BS:
15 Q. Did she always call when thay were already in
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19 peach ThEEADEE EXER! ron Ana They've
20 never calied re from anywhere else. It was always when I
21 was in Palm Geach. They'd say hi, we've down here. 17
22 you num <0 coms und sce Jeffrey, you're more than
2 welcom to
2 GQ so you muldn'e have Tike a specific Line vhen
25 you eld gn aver. Tike be here at 11 or be here at Du?
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1 A BTL, TC vel them, 17d say —- nell, 1 wenn,
2 1 have to sor around his schadule. tie’d have to sork
2 aroun: mine. hab GEER) 31 WSMHEDR DEY
4 ED RETA RR Re
H GQ. 00 you -- 7 naw: that you said you tathed to
6 [cn the phone. wes there anybody else that you would
7 talk ra aa che phone?
H A. IF sebfrey wasn't there Tike if 1d call hin to
§ see how he was doing or whatever, you know, he had -- his
10 chef would answer the phone, Kis maid vould answer the
1 phone. thers
12 tut vas I the only one you talked to abour
1B making appainzuents?
1 A. uh-huh, yeah. weT3, yeah, AT Jeffeey sasn't
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15 auailable, they'd, you kaos, he said, the chef o yeu
16 know, whoever, said Tetfrey will get back tu you. veh,
17 ER wade the aspointments.
1 50 when you mere calling to talk 10 Jeffrey,
20 A Uh-huit, yeah.
n 4nd how ofan vow you calk ta defTrer on the
22 yume 3 opposed to Talking to one of Fis assistants?
3 A Me and Jaffray hardly ever talked on the phone.
20 bers alas busy. 7t vas mostiy J ved 1K when
IT uoutd ge there, you know. 50 it as Tike hey, do you
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2 con, bye.
fi 2. 00 you kia sonsone whe works for Jeffrey nan
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5 AZ think T mec her one tise.
6 Qaeda do you know about her?
; A she wae there. And the person 7 think
§ Imo positive, okay. Tw preriy sare she suid that
9 she’s [rom nen vork and she travels with Jeffrey, bu |
10 think T wol her om: Line, F that's the girl thet rings
1 the belt, you know, 6 fy heed. dia T think i that
12 ore person I met one tine.
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2 whether ha vas gesting sareied. Did you ever know hie Lo
15 have a gisdiriend vr a steady?
17 never had a girlfriend snd he coesn't vant ta hava 3
16 girtfriend.
1 a. ware you ever asked to bring a gir] for sovsonc
20 else Vike to ¢ive a massaye to somebody else or to anyone
21 other than seffrey? |
2 a won Xgl aE eraser i
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1 sur anyaody alse, either any friends chal were
2 intomor-
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4 experiance mazaging and he alias Hked ry rassages. So
5 he roo I about my massascs and she said, yesh, I want ]
6 a massage so 1d go over there. I think it was one or !
7 tw tines and 1 gave her @ massage.
3 ©. Now when The 9irts were upstairs with Juffray |
9 in the bedroon, what would you do?
0 A. The chef woile make ae carved tomrtocs, put
To som ced seat in itand I Just eat, wine and dice. it i
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E 2 was wonderful, great.
n a. and when you would Talk to the chef —-
1 A ves.
i = would ansbady lsc from the house he there?
16 A. ves. I don't know their names. Ica’
17 eemenber. there sere ike ai these foreign girls from
18 == Tike they're beatiful, kraut] fl wodels that are from
15 different -- they have sccents. and no, but it was real
interesting because we'd talk. And, you know, I'd learn
21 & lot from then and they'd Teaen 2 Tor fron me just being
2 american. aud an, cucry tine § sens there it was a good
23 rime. did k Deus Tos Shedd 1 REG SREB TE
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5 Q. And hax Tang you sould the ache gic] be
3
1 upstairs normally?
2 A Teenty, 25, 20 to 50 minutes.
3 bv Acer rxcummos: .
a 0 eack EE i: chore anything else
S about her that you can remesher? vou ners friends with
6 her. she went three tines, you Think? id she en back
7 without going through you to set up any aspointments that
8 you know about?
a A 1 done kom.
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1 brought? + know you hrouehi other II or wriple
2 evita.
4 last name, then I wouie provably remesber. bor 1 don't.
5 0. any IEEE oid you bring o IE?
is EE veh, tha sounds faviliar. veah, NEE
17 EE ear.
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2 A. she's alder than we
2s © Go you Know her From sees or
2 A No. ubers Hd 3 meet fer? © met ber nny
25 netahbortiond and 1 asked her 11 she mantel to 0 and
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\ u 0. what did she say cbout him?
1 A. she had fun
n 0 she hud fun?
© A uh.
1 GQ. What did she say happened up there?
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55 HE EE AR A Sv a ASE
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7 Q. vid you ever, cither when you gave him a
18 massage or any of the girls, did you ever use a bin buck
19 massager or ie was only manual massage?
20 A. No. it was only my hands. we never used
n anylalng else.
2 Q. Nou shen yau were working for his, shen you
2 wore cotng over 10 Jeffrey's house to give massages, did
, 20 you have 3 boyfriend
a
1 4. Okay. tom Hd he feel about vou going ta
2 aeffrey's hause?
3 A. lie was a jealous little bay, but he didn’t
4 care. being hone the bacon.
5 a what's your boyfriends?
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, ; 0. Hon 1 an vou a YoU mermonee hat you hai
8 a baby. 1s that the baby's father?
5 Ao, mo, thank cod.
To a ——
3 |
» a oe, I #04 vere you suit) going
3 zo aefrer's when vou wre pregnant?
" AE wuld bring girs “here when £ ous pregnant.
W or so did I a SEES hun
16 wher you were dotng ar sefTrey's hove?
” he RETREAT Mines
is Jeffrey actually threo ve my baby shower and he got me
15 furniture and a mice rattle for my san and Just realy
0 wien tings, 1 Tove wom Francs.
2 Q. Was the shower at his house and did he attend?
= Ao, mo, at ay house, at my hoose. nd ro,
{ 23 cftrey wasn’ there. tie Sust sent IE bring se
L 21 gifts for the baby.
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2 a. oid EEE ever go over there with you?
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7 @. 0d Jutfray ask you about bayfrieds? (sean,
5 was he curious about
s A. Vesh, ue always Talked shat wverythisg, yooh
10 ow you have a boyfriend. yaah, ao, you know. se talked
IU Hke friends. 1 don't knan. Just shout noc 1ife |
2 stories. You kaow, he prodably knows my whole Tife i
1 sary. |
30 av ace mavas:
1 6. wom do you sti] have contact with him or =
16 A who? {
17 Q. deffrey. i
1 A. Ko no one's allowing me.
19 OV ¥S. BTLAFONTA: :
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5 thes
. © hat lt you sor ea Bb hoes
7 ore
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Twn ol the vine, he dust 12° 2 courte ives he aphed.
1 we can, you know, try to fulti 11 your dreams, Gif 1
45 wiih SA BAIBESTR 2 ds vm snd av lidnE TNE SE
16 iw apie 8 EEE.
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2 he afvsr she bug, we dies. veaily eve sak. 3
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2 Tiztle gir? and I vorally changed. My whole life
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3 crunged. A couple times after I had the baby, I brought
4 a couple girls Thera. Tr was 1% tho tire. snd then
5 ae and Jetfrey really stopped talking. We just stopped
6 talking. 1 Bad ey oun Hie mud he had his, 50 x don’
7 eon.
nr AceNT nics:
5 Did he ever make any arrangswents kiowing shat
10 you wanted to be a zodel ar were sodelimi? He has a Tot
11 of connections with shotograprars and sTuff. 1 wean, did
12 he ever sel up any photo shoats or onyihing Fike that?
1 A. Ko. ho, bscause he asked me FT ond Hie to
Wau m0 sursue shat 7 vented wa do, hut Tike © said, for
15 he second tine
K Qf man in aun here, noi 10 travel fn Nex vork
17 tor a shoot or anything?
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i 39 SEEEHES CARS ENF hin ar doominet 1HEEES
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2 4. ld you ever get money from Jeférey when you
20 cide’ esther give 3 massage or bring 3 gir] over?
= a ves.
p GQ. Okay. when did thar kaspen?
2 A. 1 had tw pay cent and Laas Tase on my rent.
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1 This vas before the baby. Awd | asked him -- 1. asked An
7 for like 300. AEESEERAS T don't T coun’ }
3 tell you how T gar iri AERERAEE) DUBIE Teves
4 BEERASRE ét veke
5 Q. was he there when you bent to get the money? |
B A to |
; ©. 1 you know was he in town or did you call hie?
3 AT dant even —SYSARAF CRADEKA EIS. DaEE
9 ENG he RENE TE SI SE
n a ws Ut the only tine that he gave you voney
11 that wasn't connected either fn a massage or to bringing
2 agi
15 A. tie bought gifs for the bahy shover. J can’t
14 remcaber nov. Not oft thc top of my head, no. I naver
15 asked him for anything because © just fell == 1m not
16 Tike that, jou know. I'm not a user and I'am nor I
{ 17 don't Tike that. I've never asked hin for amey. so -- |
18 0. what boul presents. either birthday presents? i
19 Vou mentioned gifts for the hahy. Any other gifrs that
20 he gave you?
2a A. Yeah, he gave we a —- he hal went to 2earil amd
22 he case back with « hole bunch of bikinis and re told ne
23 to choose one, so 1 chose ane.
2 Any other gifts, Christmastine or birthdays or {
25 anything Tike chacy |
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2 0. o10 he glve aay of your friends that you |
3 browchs ites? }
Fl a vee, we air wo died, JJ ve eve ver i
5 2 bathing suit. too, fron Srazil.
5 ©. we have sone zeicphone mumbers that we wanted
7 ta ask you about.
9 GQ. Just to see IF you recognize these or IF you |
10 ever sued any of these rumbers that might have been 01d |
11 taleshone numbers for you at some puinl. I don’t hem |
12 how many cell phones you may have had tirougs the years. i
13 sa if you recognize any of Ihse.
u a. EEE vos ny rusber.
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1 A. what, my baby's father?
EY a ven
n A Oh. T never knew his. Always T just. you kaw,
2 called hin ad T never knew his nusser
23 ev eT amos: |
p G10 was programed in your phone? i
2 A. Yeah. Se don't crow. T just know JE |
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1 because thar was oy 01 nubs Tike a long Time ago.
2 vows. snavouma:
3 2. AU the time thas you were bringing girls mer
4 to the house, were you als working regular job?
y A. Tworked at City pizza for a TiLile while, buc
6 no, kind of revired and splarged. I didn't have any
7 bills topay. I saved. I put money in the bank, so =
« Gwe hae zatked about [EN before. vo
10 A IEE
In 0. and oho 4s trac?
2 A. T brought her u couple times. bho is thact
a GQ. T xean, did you go to school with her or how
{ 1 dS you know her?
* is A. Oh. I had asked ons of wy friends, I said do
6 vou have any It vos 4 guy Friend. I said do yeu have
17 any girls that are willing tn give massages and I met up
WR with her. 1 called her. 1 talked ta her an the phone.
13 I wet up with her and she said yeah, cool.
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24 okay. you know. aad they were like oh, I wasn't
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5 so who knows. [wasn't up there with them, zo 1 couldn't
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Ea 8 who were kind uf shocked?
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s And T axsuse you mean prescription modteation nor
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16 always wade eo fic] 30 comfortable. 1 shought T was a
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20 A wine will he tao in June.
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2 Q 15 thal when you started morking with the
25 company you're working for now?
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25 ms taken care of by vy baby's father. then I mas a
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2 worked at La Fitness, Rowo Pisca. It's been a year nov.
3 and what do you mean, is thar why I'm working?
Ll a. Mo, £ just didn't know where you were working
5 1 thuught you said you hed gotten = job afterwards, After
Bi the haby was bora?
7 A. Yeah, T worked at the Taundrosat for a couple
8 af days. 1 just |ike to -- 1 wanted to soak in my san
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10 house, you xnow. And if anybody — T told == 1 told
1 HEB 1 said, vou knon. T have a baby now and you knas,
12 1'd rather stay at howe with my buby. My old man wus
23 tuking care of me. I d7dn'l cave about raney.
11 vuerything sas good, so a new Tifa.
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1 @ what exactly -- what suidance did she give you
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20 searching to make money or whatever or fy girlfriends, T
21 know what an ateractive person Tasks ke and 1 would -
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23 overuesghi naople, I Just knew chat Jeffrey |iked, you
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5 A. No. was she 4 girl that was over thers?
5 ©. ust a face that we wanted to --
7 A Okay. No. I dur’t know
5 ov AGENT scams:
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10 yo over Lo sce Jeffrey, hat vas the percentage? hou
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12 dott. and how many sould fut sav, ao, i'm not
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n @. 030 you ever say unything about you know, be
1 careful who vou talk to about this or 1 quess Tn
15 wondering why, you kow, were rumors guing around at
16 schol or hae did eurything esp under wraps?
A. Everyboly knee, I don't know. sveryhody wide
18 jokes about it. rike it was not in school. It was mare
19 Tike in ay auighborhosd. They wuld call se: Hedi Fleish
20 and everybody fust made fokes aboot SE. T don't Kok.
2 It easn't -- but T didn't care
2 0 might
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5 AX don't knw, probably cabarrassing. ThE
7 Wi pedi side SEAR BRT FRE shes idate fol b
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19 that's why. And that's in the cleventh grade, that's
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12 schostorelated -
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16 really hanging oul with the best crowd. and all the
7 people that I did hang out with, They were drupouis. So
18 it wasn’t anyrhing in stool. It was mostly Tike the
19 neighborhood people or my friend, one of my guy friends’
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& 1S. Department of Justice
[4 Oftico of Legislarive Affairs
J —— Wes, 30: 2030
: Noverber 3, 2007
“The Honorable Tot Coayess, Jr.
Chairman
Gomme an the Iodiciry
US. House of Represematioes
Washizigon, D.C. 20515 .
Der Me. Chien:
“Tas let press he views of the Deparment of Justice the Diepauiaat or DON) cn
FR. 3887, he “William Willer ures Tralieking Victims Protestion Requborizition Actof
2007," 33 introduced By Congressman Lanto on Cktober LE, 2007, Ihe Deere as
siggiicant concerts, which er detailed below ia section-by-ection snsivsis The peoposed
Legislation, as draflzd, woe] slimioat the Departnenr’s lei. several important steps in the:
‘ict ideatilication proccss, nd thereby sega kgact ous shitty 1 uso he safely of
victims and hei fn, zs addons) victims, nd grand end proseeots human
- ‘malickers; ould brood he ial stuts cogaiding prosecution in 4 menses st ducts
{ trom effective Gnfoevuent silts and raises se jous federalism implications; nd t would
\ wnconstitutonally intrude izto Executive tulority.
1 Senter
“The proviso 5: subsection (eK 2)(B) mtherizin the Diteetor ofthe fice to Mosier
14 Chabil Trallicking in Persons (GITIP) tthe: Dsparimery of Sao 0 infer view victims
should isfy haa the Dirsciar i sabar:aod 0 80 50 only wih re consent of th Atormey
Cieneral in an oe where un ongoing investigation o prosecwion mig exis. Otherwise,
serous issues could aie that would complicate or even scale prosecution. Tor example, 1
stetemots wade 9 the Director woud presumptively uve t3 be med over 1 he defeose and
2p satomnss (bal coniadict stan me to aw enforcement or prosecutors would x
ToquiTed 0 be fumed over fn the dele.
2 Section 103
1201 finds seccin 193 vanecessary and dulicsve of exiting cet and. therefore,
oppuses i inc wic i the bill. DO) and athe Federal agescios ae ready oflenog he types
of assistance thet ae ecsertbod i th s2vtan. Suthenons, the new oieetin (05) weld
toquirs he United Scares Guverzanent to provide iehrical assite-oc grovids legal
finswurks am ir grograms to foreian govermeate and nougoverental arganizstions to
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li nus “Ral orsign migrant Woks a2 rawided peuiecSor, equal to nationals of the fveig:
! coun.” Lis pavision docs ao iffecatiore betwes Jogal and oo: legal mut workers, nor.
oes i distinguish betvieea fread labor and on-cocceed mig fubor. DOJ kolo that ay
intonation stand thot 1c proce mest mor our nostic sancerds, Simla, the now
i svsaction (aY0)(4) could be read 0a cnoonreing cuuslies lo loosen their immigration (aw,
! soning that the United Sistas Gaverninen uight od be vlig do.
Subset (b) neds the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 (22 GA. § 2:81 erseq)o
provide specif sistance for 4nf-raficiing investigation and prosecution vais fn ecg
Fi courdries. This subsection could be cog: ws priorsing sox racking aver bor
i uliking, As luted 166s, DOF believes taary intotutons] Sandard hat we promote st
minor ou dosnstic sandards, which prioritize both sw ieficking and labor ai Seiing.
| Fuhr, the amendinent ts 72 US.C. § 2152(d)a)(?) should laclude a Ferenc to abot
#ralfciing snd ld, thereiore, read “ineliing vestigation o individuals and ences that
; nay be ivohved in reicking in persons tvolving sexual exploitation ar forsad ahae.™
3 Second
“The Desament objec tothe augiage i tos session hat specifies the grou ith
which the Unifed Stes Goverment wust consult and oooedingls i offering astimance and
Eeoection viet of Suman e(Tcking. Such languags bof pleczs undue resccictions on the :
Unit Stes Government sid could Tit the Goverment’ iy to dea wih sore uecessary
frou. hon Seem th consis eat practic of the Department 0 coceult vic with a ange of
- stake holders 32d res befoce design » progam of foreian tisave on bums. raficking, .
{ ‘Sach an additiour] requirement in the sac itery Jenguags it umieeessary. We suggeat tha the :
Jauguage be arteaded to read, T7Tn coopezarion 3a) sooudization wih ara zations which may
clude the [UNHCR], the laesttiona! Crgagization for) Migrate, and tht elevant
Organizations...”
4 Sectourts
DOJ recommen hat section (s) sls equine tt the elfectivenass of usstons :
Drogen: be meusurod hased am best clfors to elite coupon with aw enforces, sion i
with lhe other enter
5 Stone
D0] opposes tie bar in subsection (b)(1) asainst focuding cases in which probation or
ow sentecce a piven, Some of the muck important cass re fhe anes against cooperating
defendants that esult it nim! snences in exchange fo infomation ores imcty. Ermbaseics :
shold have (i discretion to tke such situations into acco when evaluting foreign
oveconncat eTocs 1 combat trafficking. The Depastoent recoxnasends amending secon +
Q)() by striking “stall po be considered 30 bx aw” ar inverting ir. it slave “sel be 4
coniGered ou Case by essa sis 0 deseaming Ail will be consideved wu” so tha : wil ive he i
cretury of Sta greater Nein in cyalouting the efforts of ober counrics, 3
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i “Ibe Depaciment also objets 0 the new paragraph (11), which Lists 2 3 citetion for
H asccrtaming whether the govern in question hus made “serios and sustsined” ifort
| Jinjazte laflicking "| futher (Be povemmen has made seria wnd sustained efforts to raduoc
Geizand fer conmarcial sex acs and for ari ation in nleemational sex sea by tional of
i the conor.” We ubicct 0 his language besauze itis vag sud wD, by implicatios, reqnive the
United States Govamment o evaluate itself nr der this “seciaus and sustained” standard, The
‘Department prefers the langage tht was added by the 2005 rewwthorizaion of the Traflickiog
i Victims Proection Act, which crahuaied whether counties “adopt Tetsu” 0 ress
i Geizand
6 Seton 107
: Section 167i8) of the Ae aises aeparstion of puwers aod Chad concerrs. Section
i 1073) would aad 8 wow 23. US.C. §7-05I)(D), which would limit he etonat of in that a
| constr cousin on the Fer IT Wet ist (0 tw yoars, “ila the Secrlary ef Ses
; Srovides w th appropriate songessianl amenitces odio evidence thal” he contr had
| ken curin sir to aks igu:ficeal Bor to candor iaficking. Thit provision furthne
i quires that “| sloch credible evidence” shal hu ruvided to Congress in 4 report.
Ta the exten: that ation 107(s) purports to give songressional committees authority to
deni whethe: the Secretary's decision 1 exes & country 10m the watch fie i based on
sufiesantly “credible evidonos,™ he provision would ive (he couraitees tol in cxaculiag the
oe i he Constitution does not llow. “Ones Congress makes itn choice in suactng.
- ‘ogialation, 6. p-toipaon ends Cangress can thereule control he Grecution of 6 enscumact
4 only ndirily by passing new gio ion? —tha complics ih the bicemerali and
2 prasennneol ceqitemants of Ailicls L Burasier ». Symar, 478 U.S. 714, 735-34 (19361 see ao.
HS w Chaclha, 162 U.S, 919, 951-52, 958 (1983). Ta avoid is concern, we veounead
seplacing “provides the approprte songressionwl commiices ered vidkince” with
“detecTaines;” ud placing “Such orediole svidence’” with “Such dsenrination.”
T. Seotonios
10 opposes the requirement in section 108 fu cieeto u delabass “con bivigg ull
apslicabis da collected by each Fedal dezarraent nd agency repressed on hs sages
Task Fores to Monctor end Coma Teall * The datbose woul contr, Jaw anforoement
scustive infoneation. which would prevest 5 dia fom being access bl fo pada. :
eaforoe ment ugeacics, muy of which ero prt of IL interegeney task Reee. Pursbermors, 805
8 database would be JifGul: to crate, partially withia ce tmelLazie provided he cate
Decause it wnald resis information from dite agencies ut cofiec dara jn vasying Rms
nd level of speciBeiy.
8 Secon 108
“This section saticizes the President to establish an awa for eats speins maflisking :
and dizses Bim 0 cstablish procedures for sect rocipleats of the award. DOJ opposes his i
Foovision, a5 i uefezes with he Presidents policy making authority. i
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“The Deparment opposes tha story langage in subsection 11 G(&)1)R) iit
| specifically Tenions ihe (1.9. Gove al oozaccod hotlines for teporing instenss of
i callcking 3 peraons. S0erly sroriding for th ames of Or hots oold miceorc with
| the Presidont’s policymaking sutiericy tn chang: the Sotbne structure at a later Jute.
i Farthormors, Th Art, ug siren, misudes; re hulins
0. Seetion201
fs section 201. the Deparment abjects de new subsoction “(55)” To fue extent tat
P such a sksescdon is acesary, a questa thr we Eafe to 60 Pepctment of Slomslasd Souity
i (DFS), he dscisiou sega =coperaion shewld include the Aticmey General in witioa to he
i Secretary of © Dept: of Horses Seuanity, 8 it docs in Section 2010).
DOF defers 10 DIS regard o sustestian (4)1)(8), aibough we would nate rat by
ceanving (56 “cusas and savers hur” stradus, sicims 31 be clighle for 2 T-via upon
lower shoming of ext zac Eurdship.”
Tho Depieni aso deions 5a DHS i regard to subsostion: (02), whi would exlomt
Tvs parents oo sibhogs of aff vicais. As fact! mater, Eowser, te provision
should be aancaded to stk any reference fo a 8 scsuh of the Feu's cooperation Sith Jaw
enforcement.” TealTckers Jakn victims to nomides he uke complissce wih rsficks'
p demands zn to exalists ox victims’ escape, ot because of law enforcement ccopsraion. I is
{ couner-facual to describe the pater of cats sad etlition ws iaked to Fas euforcerment
~ coapazation, ad discard th ist hat eats oie only subside wien law exforcement tues
mest to sccure dhe mi oc punish (up rallhers umd shel associates Who deste ction :
fame, Funbermore, itis onclear raethe Le reercnos o 61g encompaseca het minor I
nel aul blings, and hehe spouses ax hildzen of adult siblings sould ho digits fora T- i
In subsection (6), DOT opposes the rw subsection (SNE), hich grant sole anhosty bo
he Secretacy of DHS to consicer whasher “exe bdsbip” exists. Tho now seston, howeves,
also requires conseliation with “Frosecuion,” wich pesumobly Tefers o prsesutors ut DO,
since DOJ 116 Jad prosecusarsa agency fee wes vofving vos racking, Sinee these
prosceutors are under vie Atomey Genecul's axoriy, fhe sou lator. sequitement $30.1 i
include consalation with the Atloracy Geaers.
Sabsccticn (61), wick acuics the new scbssetion (3 4)() i section 1070) of the :
“Toullicking Victims Brotecinn At (TVE A, should mie agplicatios for conse preecacs fo
those being mate by “Fedonal” kw enforcement oficials, Lining the applicGuns uo those :
submited by Teeral Jw eoforsemon asists in he victim idencificaion process, The
‘Deparment hes estatisned a memorsaciun of understanding with DISS tht ensures hat ne
Diop tmet’s prosecutor ae i» uted when investigators apply for continued presence.
‘Furthermore, itn 4¢ applications © thas submited by T devs] lov urement casirss he |
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| sattzcms of wear: tra icking acvity hat might san alipl faz aw caforeepent
Juidistions. or hese seme reusons, the news subsocton (3X1) should sid “Federal bofors
law enovversent” t ni the ahoriy 0 segues pusole ee relives to Fadel Le
enforcement oficial
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actiasble obligation is not ercatcd s lo Fede. Juv ferment’ rel in roteciog. fe uty
of truftcing views ang furl amber. While the U.5. Goeommant mes very odor fo
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legally soguinble ght and cod lead to gai
La 1c new subsoetion (YAY, DOS oppesos sxterding contisnied preseace for the
doraion of a civil suit. iL also cues the putautiel for usc because of Ibe Jnglhy 1nd
plaintifTitiz-vorirlled delays in cordacting evil itfarion. unzemore, physics) prosence
in the United Stites it ot cacessary for he sess means of a cil scion. Vitis
Have fk opens to hin stat on th Usted Ssls, ich an T- snd Divas.
HOT asses echnical change tn subiection (A), which curently bas ko sbeector. (6. £
DOJ recommends sriking hs second "(2)" sad replacing it vid a (31. i
I Section20?
{ ‘The Depart oppses (bo lunguse i section (a) hat logislatcs the 2xisience ofa.
spesific ws fore, such 3 le Trafficking 5 Persons and Worker Explol ation Tusk Farce. DOJ :
records debtion of hs tefereuce aod Ae placemeat nf ts naved ask force with the. ;
Atri Geaeral™
D0] 815 opposes th 120 day dealin fn suSseaion (1) 53 wares sozable due lo imgunge i
barrier and ransiaion needs.
12. Section 203
I shsscions (3), (W(1-2), nd (€) DOD sppases the “angage removing Lhe Alten
Genoals ole in detervining wheibes hs elevant speicant hag complied wilh reasorable
roquess for assistance. au apurtan ctor th decisions regarding -vieas, oe that 1a
myestgation of prosecution é complete, Because the Department i invalved i is prosecutoial
8 wel uss investigative oles, DOJ uelicipetion fs critical Ir assessing assistance wih low y
enforcement, an i is well situuted 1 ascosn whether vicion has commlied with easonsble :
“quests or ssitanes that sont Mog vestigate sgencics outside DIS. such as cases i
invustigalo by PRI or DOL, Therefore, a joint doearieation is appropri‘ becuse of te
umber ef diffu lw vufbzcement agencios ha nay be involved in partisulas mile.
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1. Section 205
DOI poss the 3ddlion of the new subacction SAGANENA) tho Immigration aad
Naliomalizy 20 Act (8 S.C. 1220650) unless the wove “Federal” is seed bo “lar
enforsemat offical.” ‘The Kame 0posed subsestu currendy sates thatthe Secretary of he
i Deparinent of Hemeiand S:urts “shall grant pale” he relatives of wafickios, victim
DOJ recommends slaying this language ta rad may ran parale” so the Secreta Ins the
late to make sa appropri decision. There ty be rcesuas pesining he Circumstances
efile relatives of the iatickng victir fo which the Secreta howd Eave discretion to deny
sure. Putter, DOJ ids i necesary ta stoke any mance fo “as a esalt othe iien's
encpersice with Lw enfirceraane far the teascns acted above.
In subsection, 6), DE cpposts a satusey reqpireancal thal parle bs exert
dicing senting oivi actions. As indicated above, his scfion pal cx 3 Sotenia! for atuse
because ofthe lengthy und glasifTictin-controlied delays it vnc civil ligation
“. Section2nl
Tho Department opps the cludge of the “and” i ubscetion (1)(A} fo ta “or loth
tbe A'toraey Genel and ths Secretary of DHS neod to be inves vod i the centificeion process.
The curren: oeifeaion process is welt<sblished 0d weeds 1 laulory rensions. DOJ asa
opposes the cage i subsection (8), whch would resaove the Atorcy Generis wthorly
if stain whether & person's pecnenco cessary 1. casing, an effective pozecuon. As th
- gency thal prosecutcs ccs of musa tr Seking, DOT's involvement yal importa, “The i
{ Department has th same corse wilh the proposed chige i subsection (2.
15 Saenz
We strongly poss 2 luna in his seston dha irapropristly semoves law
‘uforcemat fiom any nial derermination of vierim sans or benelis eligibility. DO) and DHS
play a critical ul in protecting te safety of vit and servies providers. Any ils 10
+ involve Federal law enforcement inarediately uper suspicion “hat cri fas bee comiticd
ould thread the safe of he viz, impeded eats to prompt rescue vietns 1 in s
jonpuicdy, sad possibly oot i he offendecs 2v03d apprcicusion. DOJ tecogmacs the :
important of inchiliug THIS ut Lhe iis ages forthe pemese of fuciliteing promt delisery of
tke full ange of available benefits nd servize fo aching vies. DOI oF coulis fo work :
eth DHS ai ITI bs cosine dhs interagensy guocedre afford victims of tea lcking prompt
protection a access a hose services,
The Depatitest fuer objects oho provision set forth in saragrash (Gi, which would
coin both Fedesal and sate a forcement offcilat infor the Lépastment of esl and ;
Fieaan Services (HITS) ol the exile of pont viet, bul doos not require HHS, odicr
Govemment offs, oc noo-avemmentsl service provides to form Zor or stale by
endorcement of 6b a vistim. To the Salen) lat such a nofiScaticn prosedors most exis, if must i
also include auiificatics athe Acoriey General snd to Secretary of DHS, wha bes ]
cesponsibility for prosecuting und -oveatigating instances of human raffisting. |
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I DOJ also opposes substion (). Sinse the pissage ofthe TPA, DOJ has besa onc of
: the prncinal agencies conducts amings fo avid: of audiences oslsding ah ores
| PATA Ae mar Agr
H Larne aloo us cxpecience fn 0d tig tating on ovenila vizims rough te inoceac
Lost Naional nite, 3fcaive elfrs 0 comet tacking mus ili th capris of
HIS, DHS, and DOJ
L103 also oss mised ing fu lis now subsceton (FYE). “dibiity” ms of
“agility”
1. Section21s
Section 204 of he bill alhorizes be Any Geral Lo muke ania fo asia viene of i
severe forms of a Ticking tp tn ¥2.5 alin in 2008, increasing to 313 linn 1 2011, The. :
‘Dopitinont of Justiosuready as authority lo make ani for 12 provision of secvioes for ers H
slim ind doss 101 fee in excess OF 5250 milion a secs. Ali, he authorization of ver
smother grin ogi iz Counter t to AAIFITioo's gropesa] in the 21S Fides 10
consolidate DO's more tan 70 rant progres,
Worcover, any provision purporting to expand ar ale defioiions of individuals of :
quallym er vic busi ut cle Wi requianca bt & Fodezal lane enforcement agent .
must declare h JuEvidst fw u vii of severe (rm of clicking i persons, ad tht oc i
sictim agro 15 Googe ten (he vestigation and gcsccutiun, o at th vim bo wider he ge :
ra ofl,
: DU opores the comsulstion cequkerent i, sehsecion (3K 1) wilh the Solar of Sake
1 ctahabing programs to serve doseste, U.S. citizen raffcking ius. Such Cometic
aston fll 5u3i0 of he mission and experi of he Department Sate. DOI also opposes
hs mara os sulsion yh non-event xganizons (KOS) toganling the roviir:
of services. This creat conflict of cee. since mary of the NGOs wil spgly tor od cul ]
Teczive ants under he pogeam. Fall, any section egasding he provisiun of victim savicas |
‘mast so contain angunge tha nelodes crganivations tha srovkd services 0 ovens :
satgecid to Gadicking, w defined i setion 203(e) of th Tafticking Viet Projection
Reauhoizaion Act of 2005," which would err al te fonds orice ve Attomey i
Geneal dor ssablibuant of ants will go ward the wk and develo ofthe Tunacence. :
Lost Tosi Fores.
TIO opposes susection (1) has i provides Victims of Ceime Act of 1954 nds 1
prostitutes implicated in violations of the Maan Act {rtminaliiog rasportation f prostntes 1
Intestate commer). Such pec do ot me he <gal dedEutien of icin” 45 lr ]
elim in the Li, Jes he pers prev tod i under the age of 1 at he tre the. crie sas ]
conuaried othe eas, theougl he pplication of ano Federal saute or egolaten,
sis the Tegal denim of 3 victim. Such persons src skeady sigh under he Cras H
Victims Fund Act to eceive beaedls. i
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IS 001 opposes seins 214), 5 could Soeoariucd ta rou te Alleney General and
8 the Ssorotary of Healoh and Human Servioss to mek kis) sive reatmmendztions to Congress in
bh violation of the Recouendsiivns Clase. To avoid this corcom, we recoricnd inserting ©, if %
ang, alles “ccnmrmdaions” section 2: 4(A)NE). tubes, DOI fads sybaecon (3) :
redundent. 4 thorough stody of serviess available to domestic and forvign victims was
wenduated by the Senior Paticy Operating Group in 2005-2006 and fend fow stetutary
J A WE rs on
Svbszction (d)(2KC) containg a riundant statement, Vicims of sex uxificking ae
Vela Sos em er Ya
7. Secionz
Io subacetion (3), DOF apposes the change of FemuinciakEaPL EEE DERE 2
ET RE ;
] Bic i aad op chlo This chang of Law would
esc so abily ci, wg 1 1505. § 2023 ih alr seve 1 yen .
Seater im sete. over SORA AHL SETH 5 eerily
Foinb ori GB 10 538 TS AIERHELR Se Therefore, 0 suggested subsection (a)
DE "
4m vn tue i EA er. Aosta prvi € Ely of egies }
Jegel cha Rouges.
p 500 opposer scion (b) 3 emits. The proposed Image: ts both over slusive
und und chute a mow Fai alt, og nag agen. Motcovn, th
L roviRion in unaccoacy bene sucticn 1539 aireedy probibits many of Tes eefvilics when
Toul in “aio ar whee yal on sm aepel he mc
“The Deartmect pposes subsection (11, which would expe ihe ann Act o include
was “affocit1g” intenstete comme. The Departmen does not requice any addiional statutary i
att or expended fucdioan nde i confine sucess prusealion of an :
ring cons sim comin soe Tos SS BET SE oe
regs FART Eee pe v
Eber 1 Dep eat mer urn 8 1 2 Yr le 1s soe
Rng sud pees icin chads rd conv md Soot
re he
IT EL Hh A rd ;
RSE als his allocation betwen site and Feducal
enforcement authority does aot imply tat these ares arc loss serio, rt rather reflects :
import sczerral allocations of responsibility bation state wd Federal governments, Th :
forcealizaricn of these crimes would treat lem éiffezent’y than other serious crimes such us
dr spd pe. hel roses ah le ol Kihappios gx Fat va Vd i
rine ou whem it involves Samsputaiion “it” iniratete commerce, NAibehvate, Bier L
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. go 0 0 MUSED DAIS is pS
Se Mp ha:
i high votame of peostituficn-related crimes, the Federal poveranent ‘2cks the 1ccessany resontoes.
and capacity to prosecute these offenses,
Thoiefore, to the caient tht fis SR LE EE Es ed
SP RED RETR HA eons
DO leo aposes subsection (5), which woukd expand the sex mas offenses to
“ncude those who Lravel for peposes of illicit sexual activity with adults. The Deparkaent's
corrent efforts with regard to extatcrivoriel offense foens ou ehild sex iourism, which are very
domain Or ev Cote, Tr lg oleate chon, Pinging victims
10 the United Sates to eslidy, and suerdinulion wih foreign law enforcormcos agencies and.
foreipr: governinents pemensily, umoay olber matters. Any expansion of authcrity would be a
dsteacinn from those prority eases and would cxacerbete existing burdens un investigetiva wae.
procctivn
The Departmen: believes that the addition of 18 U.S.C. § 2423A is wnceorsary and that
18 U.S.C, § 2923 does nul need w he iraended.
Stud Congress create 4 U.S.C. § 24134, DOJ believes tht lagu shout be
reused in 18 U.S.C. § 2423c) ‘bac Town the Government us charge aliempt or conspiracy for
” 8 115.C. § 2423s) criws. Finally, DOY notes thet ihe dedinicion of illicit sexua: conduct
5 wads 10 To: ytd o include peodection of child pormography.
18. Section 222
As a genzral mati, the: Depachrant opposss the expansion of jurisdiction oves offenses
nln nom dan: os Fens of ios Gi we commired CREE i Unfed Saas. The
pansion of fisdton in i econ oul hes 53 OEITANS So SHE ec
uz adit, Lhix new seotien’s jurisdiction description overlaps with 18 U.S.C. § 3271. Should
the choice >e made to keep the jurisdictions) provisions providsd far in this section, paras it
would be ore Gi ty pad scion S17 !
19. Section 223
“These provisions ars not dircedly related tw l=ufMickios. As ibis section is related to aliens .
brought into the country for the pasposee of position, without a showing of force, frand, or :
caercion, and the Intentions] Mamage Brokens Ax (IMBRA , this bill is not eke vebicle for
bis logunge. Lirthemore, siasaction (if 1) removes dae requirement from secon 278 of he
Inamiyration snd Narfonality Act that suc cunduct be dome in futherance oF the itportation uf 1
ho allen. By renovin is regents he bl extends eda to cover ll anc of i
“pimping” sa slien. H
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i 2. Senion221
: This section misunderstand the urose and effect of the model law and shouts be
£ deleted, Te Departs’ mde) 257738 Der designed (0 A0ppLaTt pro-cieing, sate Laws
‘hich target pimping; pAnCcring, or srostituSon, but ather tn amlrent those ls. Atthe
time that the Deparaman’s dct kev vias sod, mo: sires find Sopnbeasive Lvs
adessing prostitaon, pimping, and poncering, Hasieves, mos! sates did aot have xe
focused ua man trulicing. The Depauiaxa’s ov wes designed fo iso awareness of he
$6552 OF TRHTEKING al (0 coturage sites m clavely cxmine cases fo ensue that casos
invoiving fwd, force, and common ace no aboled 9 srosCiution offenses. Tao Deparment
believes ie law bes been suocessul in accomplishing this god.
2 Section 231
The Depamienchl opposs any Setitury clings to the amma: spat. The che ia
subsection (1) a wmaccossuy 45 his guage ts cameaty irchidzd n the annual spor. The
‘formation regaestod in hw subgosticn (1) weld Be excassivoly burda to ther. .
2. Seerm2sz
DOS cpposes tis addition st wmsrsay. Vormas Tafficking Lawes that da of reine
he prual uf force, Towod, x coczeion, nan Laws that conceen minor wii of severe ons of
bun walickiog, ave already dissed at be annua! conferences, Tothe extent bat is
2 prevision wonld ‘ait lao Dopartnest to discuss Ran taflicking Laws perteming t adult
{ vicims dat do hol cece the swing of ico, iad, or curmvion, such Jaws would ad ful
= under lhe deffaiion of uo Gatto aad the anal conlreos won Le a0 nAppeepiste
von for tbo discussion. of such laws, Howerer, DOJ talfcking ~mpeiors UZlize a wide
range. of saute in 304iton © Chigtoe 77 oerses o addres a] criminal conduct associaled
‘with human afficking, Ths clues the Man Act, moje Judes, visa vod, immigration
offs, cirinal lebar violalions, and extorion, jn addon (0-00ke semis! wats,
Acsordingly, DOJ taining a anual conferences, the Natisral Advocacy Contes, the Nutoral
Contec fr bissing anc Esplofvd Childe, cad field haining with tr Deprimeed of Justice i
funded Homan Trs(Fckivg Tisk Forces and providza thzvugh the lanoence Lost Nation 1
Initiative inclade discussion ov. the Emporia of using al) wvlablscrimina: ates as ecsectil
00lz chring decisiors. Thus, this secon 3 umccceswry.
B Section?
DON opposes the chung to section 206 of he Tracking Vieira Pewcction
Rouborization Act of 2005, which Woulé emmave the sera. oa pris in forming the
Sevioc Policy Operaling Gow (PG) of gents. Such a ching could be ad 3 giving the
SPOG oversigbh amloricy over grant. It 50 als 0 ke oto considecation sn ations hire
‘srant-amking ageacies may be arable 10 50ify the SOG of tho grea.
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24 Sertion nt
Tow Departed upposes subsection (a) es an excessively bunionsoms and urksccaary
creation of mow faye of bureaucracy within our agency. The Depainueas docs not lieve
ha thane ig cuerealy any bk of coo di aon. 20d 2 ac postion sould ead 10 dnplictic: oF
efor. Falbcsurs, subsectof (342A) maorroctly lists he Civil Division 1nd aot tho Civil
Rights Division.
2%. Section236
1a svbseciion (v), DOJ questions the reliability of the congressional findigs, esposially
wid respect oe estzusted number of vizcius and tho inforeaco that the eck of kid victims is
direct 72100 13 ack of odacagion individuals who may com: fe con(act with human
tes ickdeg victims. och Fadings, willout Zul body of evideae, ace counter predictive
“Ihe Depastancad also opposes substion (b). The Afioney Cieaeral boul be insved
2 any program tha focuses op combating child trafficking at the border. We propose that
section (b](1) 8 nd to read "The Scerstery ot Homciand Socuris, in conjunction its th
Sccretary of Sta, A forney Gee:al, and he Sosretary of Teak end Boman Services.” Furher
caest of 1: childeen intcrdic ed a the bordec are wed for smugyling ard sc vot afficking
vietnzs. 1 subsection (BXSKD), DO] believes thet he proceedings for zvoval 1 goa.
concigons countos ae problemi bees DHS necds mare f1Sxbiy 0 hwadle gang
meubers, lerorists, [EpeaC ofendees. and tale offenders. Funbcmmore, the canis oceplion
{ evided Is 100 Dau0v to protect he national security ntevsts ofthe couatry.
We oppase subsection (611) to the extont tht bits he Admistation'ssbiity to
detemmine le best ereangement for custody or varios classes of UAC. The administration will
work with DHS, DOJ, ard HES to ccfne and modify burrat detention nractics where
eceraary, The Ineragney process the bes forum 0 €onslder the ious berets of
wnacoonped minors and 18% ex forcernéat unl fo develop and adapt policies ht, aon ulaee
ings, rowdde Tor de safely of all cox cond. We took forward 0 dscuse.og tese
developments wilh Congress im the fare.
“The Depart opposes sebscstian (4)(2) us (00 row comsrued. Then: are
ieamerons east, outside of Loe <hild proving to be 2 canger to bwself or crbers, tht require
‘chiklren % be kept secure fifty, including the saety of the <7 from dngor that Js sat
scif-imposed. In edition, the standard for plcing inns i “Secure” caro i 100 hic, Tt
requires ic least istrictvo sering lit i 0 he best interest of the child.” RHS only places 1.4.
persees of iors i is Grew ly & Secure” Custody armangement. ais could megn that miners
Who need is wrvangement wold inrtcad be boused with chile wha live mo history of
violeras or criminal behavior, HHS needs ue exibiliy und there should not, thereon, bo
roraited to make 20 “independent fading” of the ils danger to efor others.
1101 opposes the mpage of subsection (DY Ke) 5. would afford 118 scoess co fs
caforosiacan semis dabises.
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H “To Tangunge of subsection (45) must be changed row “shel cna.” This implics 3
icaa] obligation os th Veceral oversea ty ovide vywyosd 24d corcamin right on bebalt
i of ict ta goverment fended coawsel, which is Fupptopt.ate and 031d subject the
i Boveri tgaion over ho Dele and scope of he purport oblgacion and ight.
i Ite Depertment also opposes subsection (6), which creates a gnardian ad litem
Progam. Sul program rafas sri conflic of inkerest onacerns, 20d DOT hs apyosed init
Laaguags inthe rst. Feablisfunent of a guanan ad tem progrars is oo urmzcesacy in the 8
USC. $3500) leas ets forth detailed procedares which provide foe sc apoio.
qvadians ad lism Jor oh rer. who as ict of o sacs lo crimes volving ise or
axploiaion.
Stibssction (47) ray revit in unintended consequences dt to his confidentiality
ection, “cilectively combat ratickiag, relevant information muse be tensed fo as
caforcement. Law anforcanont is wal-cquippod 0 peeceve confdentiaiy concerns,
The Pipi believes that subsection () undemizes the 1897 Special Inigrane ‘
favre vefrns amd cppos mig his bck: aver he tes, where | wat inberenly Cave
Ti scetion 2060), the effet of the amare rulccactivity of fhe geasrat applicabibty of
hese smendmcats fa “a1 less i ie Ute Sues before, on, or ae th date of enactment of
this 62” uae seious <orosis bout re provision of bene und services and bas the
Potential Lo route serious problems or tho Department iu 2 inplmcntation o the programs
( described a this section.
3 26. Sutin3y
OJ recommends sisking the 2 prccat cup on nding for triring and tecasicel
nssiuance tha is in 22 U.S.C, 7105(KZ)H). The vais comyiericy Gf the nafficking isu and
te level o coordination neceesay to 2fssivly scve tafBiiing vias requis uch more
(caeing end teshuieal sistance han atypical OF? provi. Siring the cp or, Taina aod
(esTnical sistance vil allow OJP 10 better aloes the wafcking Sand escives. The
change could be implemented by he following Stervory Lapua
“Paragraph (70)(2XDof Db. L. 106 366 is amended by:
“(0 insering ‘and ater de est scsicolon;,
(0) sing “Gi tough and’ 2d
(3) staking i)’ anc inserting ‘D1
27. Section 302
Sceton 302 re-nthorizes hc $5,000,000 Approgsiaion fo the Pilot Progra Ul was :
fst authorized by Scion 203 of (ue 2005 version of this Act. Tho 20 version, hcefors, i
should add Iangoese umsendiag section 203 of the 2005 veo © provide tua: HES docs vot :
Terre the exclusive auberiy for davelopioeat of he pio plogeaca. DOT end DITS ust be
included in he develope of Lis progam 10 ensure tht th ebiliy of Federal roscovtors snd
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L Jew vofucoemsat in gain aces fe these victims i 50s pegatvely pawed, Moroores, Lhe
Depry’ Lowledge about these vic, Ohi Usaviaus, id re demgers tat re eset
. in prnvidag shelter od servis to tiem won be insrarental crewing th fasocss of the
i prot progres. This sostion sfauld uo end sibsetion 203(8) of ths 2005 reauthorization to
i iachuis fcr “Secretacy of Haa'th and Human Services”, in callsboration with he Amey
Genel and Seorory of Home Seri,” Subsetfon 203) should be Fecnise
t mended.
- The Ofc of Mansgeman ard Budget has diel hac the is 0 abjection te he
resem alin of Sis Jose from the ssn of Fee Amiiaticns programs.
Snceces,
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EAS push:
Priscipal Degnaty Assistant Axtomzy General
The lonocable Laver S. Sri, Ranking Mea, Howe Comite othe Tulicincy
Th Honotsble Tor: Lanios, Caiman, Hose Coie on Foreiga Allacs
( “The Honorable cana Ros T ttn, Riaking Membes, Howse Comptes cn Foreigo
Adis
~ “The Honassble Patist J. Leaky, Chain, Serste Commie oa te Judisinry
Tho Houanuble Aden Specter, Eanking Mersber, Sanate Commitee on the Idicety
“The Honorable kdvard 4. Kenedy, Covireaa, Senso Comte ou cal, Education,
Taber, and Pensions
The Hoporblc Michael B, Ev, Raking Merobes, Sense Commies on Heals,
ution, Laer, and Penclona
The Hlororsble Joseph Biden, Chwicman, Sense Comite on Fore Relsiors
he Honorable Richard Lxgst, Raking Member, Seoste Comite on Forigs:
Reluions
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PRESIDENIIAL AUTHORITY 10 DECLINE TO EXECUTE
t this memoraschim discusses the President's constimtional authority fu decline to execute
snconstieutional statutes.
November 2, 1994
1 have reflected further on the difficult questions sucrounding a President's decision ta decline to
exeuule statutory provisions that the President believes are unconstitutional, and | have a few thoughts
to share with you. Le me start with a general proposition that | believe to he uncontroversial: there are
circumstances in which th President may appropristoly decline to enforce u saute that he views as
unconstitutional.
First, thore is significant judicial approval of this proposition. Most natable is the Courts docision
in Myers v, United States, 272 U.S. 52 (1926). There the Court sustained the President's view that the
statu a issue was unconslifutional without any member of the Court suggenting fiat the President had
acted improperly in refusing to abide by the statute. More recently, in Freytag v, Commissioner, 501
ULS. 868 (1991), ll four of the Justices who addressed the issue ugrord that fic President has "the
power 10 yelp encroaching laws ... or cya to disregard them whe (hey are unconstitutional." 1d, st
906 (Scalia, J, concurring); see also Youngstown Sheet & Tuo Co, v. Sawyer, 343 US. 579, 635.38
(195) (Fackson, J., concurring) (recognizing éxistence of Prosident’s authority o uct contrary to a
( statatory comunand).
: Second, consistent and substantial exceutive practice also confirms this gegeral proposition.
‘Opinions dating to at icast 1860 assert the President's authority ( decline to cffectuate coucimeats that
the President vies as nuconstitutional. Sc, o.g., Memoril of Captein Melgs, 9 Op. Ally Gen. 162,
469-70 (1860) (asserting that the President need nul enforce a statute purporting Lo agpoint an officer);
see alia anotations of ultshed Attomey General nad Office of Legal Counsel opinions, Moreover, wr
‘we discuss more fully below, wuncrous Presidents havo provided advance notioc of thelr intention nat
1p enforce specific statutory requirements that they have viewed us unconstitutional, aod Ge Supreme
‘Court has implicitly endorsed his practice. See INS v. Chadha, 462 US. 919, 942,13 (1983) (noting
that Presidents often sign legislation containing constitutionally objectionable provisions and indicate
that they will not comply with those provisions).
While the general proposition tha in some situations the President may decline o enforce
‘unconstitutional statutes is unassailable, it does not offer sufficicnt guidance us to the appropriate
course in specific circumstances. To continne our conversation abou these complex issues, 1 alr the
following propositions for your consideration.
1. The President’ office and authority are created and bounded by the Constitution; hé is required to
act within its ers. Put somewhat differently, in serving as the exceutive created by fhe Coustiution,
the l'esident is required to actin accordance with the laws — including the Constitution, which (kes
precedence over other forms of Lav:. This obligation is reflected in the Take Care Clause and in the
Presidents oath of office.
2. When bills are under cousideratian by Congress, the exceulive branch should prompely identify
unconstitutional provisions and communicate its cancems to Congress so thal the provisions can be
comected, Although this may socm elementary, in practice there have been ocoasions in which the
President has been presented with enrolled bills containing constitutional flaws that should have heen
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corrected in the legislative process.
3. The President should presume that cnactments are constilntiona), There will be some occasians,
{however whona state uppears to conflict with the Consition. such cases, the President can and
should exercise hix independent judgment w determine whether the stawte is constitutional, In
reaching a conclusion, the President should give great deference tn the fact that Congress passed the
statute and that Congress believed it was upholding its obligation to enact constitutional legislation.
Where possible, the President should construz provisions to avoid constitutions] problems.
4. The Supreme Court plays a special rol in esolving disputes about the constiutionafiy of
enactments. As a general mater, if the President believes that the Court would sustain a particular
provision as constitutional, the President should excouto the statute, notwithstanding his awn beliefs
‘about the constitutional issue. If, however, the President, exercising his independent judgment,
determines both that a provision wanld violate the Conslitution snd that it is probable that the Court
swould agree with him, the President has the authority to decline to execute the statute.
5. Where the President's independent constitutional judgment and his determination of the Court's
probable decision converge on a conclusion of unconstitutionality, the Prosident must make a decision
shout whothor or not to comply with tho provision. Thal decision is necessarily specific context, aud
it should be reached after coll weighing of the effect of compliance vith the provision on the.
constitutional rights of affected individuals und on th cxecutive branch's constitutional authority. Also
xelevant is the likelihood that compliance ar non-compliance will permit judicial resolution of the.
ste. That is, the President may bane his decision to comply (or decline io comply) in part oma desire
w afford the Supreme Court an appartunity to review the canstitational judgment of the legislative
branch.
(6. The President as enhanced responsibilty to resist unconittioal provisions lat cacrooch upon
> the constimtional powers of the Presidency. Where the President believes that an enactment
unconstitutionally Jimils his powers, he hus the authority to defend his office aud decline to abide by it,
unless he is convinced that the Court would disagree with his ussessment, If the President dacs not
challenge such provisious (i, by refusing to execu them), thors offen willbe no accusian for
judicial consideration of their constitationality; a poticy of consistont Presidential enforcement of
statutes limiting his power this would deay the Supreme Court the opportunity lo review the
limitations and thereby would allow for unconsiliozal restrictions on the President's authority.
Some legislative encroachments om cxcoutive authority, however, ill not be justciable or aie for
other reasons alikely to be resolved in court 18 resolution in the couts is unlikely and the President
connot look to a judicial determination, he must shoulder the responsibifily of protecting the
constitutional role of the presidency. This is usually true, for example, of provisions limiting the
President's aulhority as Commander in Chicf, Where its not possible to construe nuch provisions
constitutionally, the President hay the authority to act on his nderstanding of the Constinution.
One example of a Brcsideatial challenge to a stants encrosehing upon his pavers that did result fo
lisigation was Myers v. United Sules, 272 U.S. 52 (1926). In that case, President Wilson had defied u
taut that prevented him from romoving postmasters without Senate approval; the Suprerae Court
ultimately struck down the statute us an unconstitutional limitation on the Presidents removal poser.
Myers i pertionlarly instructive because, at the time Prosident Wilson ucicd, there was 0 Supreme
‘Court precedent on point and the statute was not manifestly imconstitutional. In fuct, the
consiituionality of restictions on the President's authority fo remove executive branch officials had
{hon dobated since the passage of thc Tenure of Office Act in 1867 over President Johnson's veto, The
5 closeness of the question was underscored by the fact that three Justices, including Justices Holmes and
Brandeis, disscated in Myers. Yo, dospite the unseted cousttutionulity of President Witson' ustion,
no member of the Court in Myers suggested that Wilson overstepped bis constitutional suthoriy + or
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even acted inipraperly — by refusing to comply with u satvte he believed was uncomstitutional, Tho
‘Court in bivers can be seen to have implicitly vindicated the view (ht the Peosidont may refuse to
= comply with a starute chat limits his constimational paswens i he believes it is naconstitutional. As
{ Attonicy Genera Civile stated in a 1980 opicion,
‘Myr is vey nearly decisive of the issue [of Presidential donil of tho validity of statutes].
‘Myers olds that the President's constitutions) duty docs not require him to execute
constitution] statutes; nor does i require him to execute tein provisionally, agaist the
day that they are declare unconsiitutional by the courts. He canot be required by staiute
10 Kctain pastmasiers against his will unless and nil a court says that he may awfully let
them go. If the statute Is unconstitutional, itis uncoustinational frum the start,
The Aarne General's Duty to Defend and Enforce Constitutionslly Objectionable Legislation, 44
Op. OL.C. 55,59 (1980),
7. The fae that a sifting Prssident signed the statuto in question does not change this analysis. The
text of the Cansfitution offers no basis or distinguishing bits based on who sigacd them; there is no
constitutional analogue to the principles of waiver and estoppel. Morcover, every President sinco
Fisenhowéx has issued signing statements fn which he stated that be would refuse to exceutc
unconstitutional provisions. Sce annotatians of ulachcd signing satements. ds we noted in our
‘memorandum un Presidential signing statements, tio Presiden “may properly aununce to Congress
and to the puhlic that bo will not enforce a provision of an enactment he i sigaing. 1150, then a signing
statement that challonges what the President determines 0 be un unconstitutional eacraachment on his
power, or that anounces the Presidents unwillingness ( enfore (or willingness o lliyuts) such a
provision, can be a valid and reasonable exercive of Presidential authority." Memorandum for Bernard
N. Nussbaun, Caunsel (a the President. (rom Walter Dellinger, Assistant Atiomey General, Office of
( Legal Counsel at 4 (Nov. 3, 1993). (Of canrwe, fh President is nat obligated to aunouace his
“+ rcscrvations in 1 sighing scatenent; he cin convey his views in the time, mauner, and form of his
chousing ) Finally, the Supreme Court recognized this practice in NS v. Chodha, 462 11.5, 919 (1985):
the Cour siated that "it is not unconuaion for Presidents to approve legislation contoining parts which
are abjectionable on constitutional grounds” and then cited te example of President Franklin
Roossvelf's memorundum fo Attorney General Jackson, in which he indicat his intcation not to
implemeiit an unconstitutional provision in u statute that he had just signod. 1d. at 942 1.13. Thess
sources suggest that the Presidents signing of a bill does mot affect his authority to decline (o caforce
constitutionally abjcctionable provisions thereof.
In accordance with thes propositions, we do not believe that a President is Himited to choosing
between vetoing, for example, the Defense Appropriations Act and cxocuting an unconstitutional
provision in iL Tn our view, the Presidcat has the authurity to sign legislation containing desirable
elements while rofusing o exevuts a constitutionally defoctive provision.
We recognize that these issues are difficult ones. When the Presidents abligution to act in accord
+ with the Constirtion appears 1» be in tension with his duty to executs laws coacéad by Congress,
questions are raised thal yo to he beart of our constitutional structure. In those circumstances,
President should peocsed with causion and with cespect for the obligation that each of the braaches
shares for the maitenance of constitutional government.
( Walter Dellinger
{ Assistant Attomey General
Brief Doicription of Attached Materials
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Aiorney General Opinions
. 1) Memorial of Capiain Meigs, 9 Op. Atty: Gen. 462 (1860): In this pinion the Attorney General
{ conoluded that the Presidont is pemitied to distogard an wicamstiuutional statute. Specifically, Aftorncy
‘General Black concluded that a statutc purportiog © appoint an officer should not be onforeed: "Every
Jaw i to bo carried out so fr forth 3 is consistent wilh fae Constitution, and no further. The sound part
of it must he exesutcd, aud the vicious portion of it suffered to drop," Id. at 469.
2) Congittionalit of Congress’ Disapproval of Agoncy Regulations hy Resolutions Not Presented to
the Prosident, 4A Op. OC. 21 (1980): Tn this opinion Attorney General Civiletti instructod Scorctary
of Education HufStedler that she was authorized to implement regulations that hud bosn disapproved by
concurrent congressional resalu(ons, pursuant t a statutory legislative veto. The Attorney General
noted that "the Attorney General must scrutinize with caution any claim that be of any other exceutive
officer may decline to defend or enforce a statute whose constitulionality is merely in doubt." Id, at 29.
He concluded. howover, that "Jo regurd these concurrent resolutions as legally binding would itapair
the Exeuutive's constitutional role and might well forcelosc cffective judicial challenge to their
constitutionality. More important, | believe that your recognition of these concurrent reslutions as
legally binding would constitute an abdication of the responsibility of the executive branch, as an equal
snd coordinate branch of govennment with tho legislative hranch, to preserve the integgity of its
functions against constitutional encroachment.” 1d.
3) The Attorney Genecal's Dut fa Defend and Enforce Constirtionally Objectionable Legisiation, 44
Op OC. 55 (1980) Atiomoy General Civiett, in answer to a congressional inquiry, observed that
"Myers holds that the President's constitutional duty does not require him to execuié unconstitutional
statutes; or docs it require him to execute (hem provisionsly, aginst the day thut they aro declared
unconstitutional by the cows.” Id. at 59. He added as a cuulionary uote that "[i]he President has no
( “dispensing power,” meaning thul the President and his subordinates "nay not lawfully defy an Act of
Congress if the Act is constilutional. . . . Ln thse rare instances in which the Excoutive may lawfilly
atin contravention of a statuto, it is the Constitution that dispenses with the operation of (he statute.
The Bxcautive cannot,” Id, at 59-60.
4) Letter fiom William French Smith. Atiomey General, lo Peter W, Rodino, Ir., Chairman, House
Judiciary Committee (Feb. 22. 1985): This letter discussed the legal precedent and authority for the
Presidents refusal to excculs a provision of the Comporition in Contructing Act. The Amey General
noted that the decision "not to implement the disputed provisions has tho beneficial byproduct of
increasing the likelihood of a prompt judicial icsofution. Thus, far from witaterally nullifying an Act
of Congress. the Departents sctions are fully consistent with the allocation of judicial power by the
‘Constitulion fo the courts." i at 3, The letter also stated that “the President's failure 6 vel 3 measure
dues not prevent him subsequently from challenging the Actin court, nor does presidcatial approval of
sun enactment cure constitutional defects.” Id, at 3.
Office of T egal Conse! Opinions
1) Memorandum the Honorable Robert J, Lipshutz, Counsel to the President, from John M.
‘Hannon. Assistant Attomey General, Office of Tegal Counsel (Sept. 27, 1977): This opinion
cancludod that the President may lawiully discegard a statute (bat ke iuerprets to be wnconstiional,
Wo asserted thal "cascs may arise in which the unconstifurionality of the relevant statue will be
certain, and in such a case the Executive could decline to enforce the statu for that reason alone.” Id,
- a3. We continu, stating that "fu]nless the unconsiitutiouality of a statute s clear, the President
{should aticmpt to resolve his doubls in a way that favors the statute, and he should nt decline to
"enforce it unless he concludes that he is compelled to do vo under the circumstances. Id. We declined
o catalogue all tho considerations that sould weigh in favor of non-<nforcement, bat we idedtified
0: firs tho extent of the harm to individual or tho government resulting from enforoement; and,
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second, the creation of an opportunity Jor a court challenge through non-enforcement (og. Mycrs).
2) Appropriations Limitation for Rules Veroed by Congress, 48 Op. Q.L.C. 731 (1980); Tn this
{ ‘opinion we rejected the cunstintionality of a proposed legislative veto, prior o the Court's decision in
Chadha. We opined that "(t]o regard this provision as fegally binding would impair the Executive's
‘cmsiitutional rolo and wonld consti an abdication of the responsibility of the Executive Brunch,
Id. at 734. Ieshould be noted that the legislation in question was pending, in Congress, and the
possibility that President Carter would sign the legislation did not affect our analysis of tie
comsGlutions] issu. We simply stated that, “if enacted, the [legislotiva veto provision) sill nof have
any logal effect" 1d.
3) Issue Rained by Scotion 102(6)2) al HR. 3792, 14 Op. QL, 3801990) (preliminary print): This
opinion ls addressed thei-pending legislation, in this case the foreign relations authorization bill for
fiscal ycars 1990 and 1991. The opinion found that a provision of the bill was unconstitutional aud
severable. Regarding non-cxecntion, the apinion stated that "aC least in the contest of legislation Gut
infringes he separation of powers, the Prosident has the consliutional authority ta refuse enforcs
‘wnconsiittional laws." 1d. at 53: The opinion conclu that if tho Presideat chooses to sign HR.
3792, he would be constitutionally authorized to decline fo cuforce” the consituGonally objectionable
scotion. Id. at 38.
4) {sues Ruised hy Scction 129 of Pub. L. No. 102-138 und Section 503 of Pub. L. No. 102-140, 16
Op. OC. 18 (1992) (preliminary prind): This opinion concluded that two statutory provisions fhat
limiled the ismance of official and diplomatic passparls were uncoustitutional snd were scverble from
he remainder of the tive statutes, On the question of nor-cxecution, the opinion rejected "the argument
that the President may no reat a staute a invalid prior 10.a judicial determination. Id. at 40. The
+ opiniou concluded that the Constitution authorizes the President ta refuse bo enforce a Law that be
( belicves is unconstitutional.
5) Memorandum for Bomaed N_ Nussbaum, Counsel the President, from Walter Dellingss, Assistant
Attorney General, Office of Legal Counsel (Nov. 3. 1993); This opinion discusscs different categories
of signing statcuents, cluding thoso construing hills to avoid consututional probloms and those in
which the President declures "that a provision of the bill before him is flatly unconstirutional, and that
he will refuse to enforce it." I, ar 3. The opinion concludes that such "uses of Presidential signing
storeaeats generally serve legitimate and defensible purposes.” Id, at 7.
Presidential Signing Statements
1) Statement by the Siatc Department (Announcing Presiden Wilson's Refusal to Carry Out he
Section of Gre Jonos Mezchant Marine Act of Jure.S, 1920. directing him to terminate treaty provisions
restricting the Goverament's right to impose discriminatory tonnage dues and tariff duties), 17. A
Compilation of the Messages and Papers of the Prosidents 887) (Sept, 24, 1920) (Pees. Wilson): The
State Department announced tiat it "has bocn informed by the President that he docs not deem the.
direction contained in Séction 34 of the so-called Meroaut Marine Act an exorcise of any
‘constitutional power possessed by the Congress." Id. The statement also defended President Wilson's
decision to sign the bill and noted thu "the fact that une: section ofthe law involves clements of
illegality rendering the section inoperative need not affect the validily and operation of the Act asa
whole." 5 Green Haywood Hacksworth, Digest of Intemational Lave 324 (1943),
+ 2) Special Message 1a the Congress Upon Signing the Departmen of Defense Apprapristion Act, Pub,
{Papers of Dwight D, iscnliower 688 (uly 13, 1955): President Eisenhower, in signing 2 bill (H.R.
“i 6042) that contained a legistative voto, stated that the logislative velo "will be regarded as invalid by
the cxecutive branch of the Government in the. administration of HLR. 6042, unless otherwise
determined by u court of competent jurisdiction.” I. a 689.
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3) Memonindum on Informing Congressional Commitiees of Changes Involving Farcign Economic
Assistance Lunds. Pub, Papers of Joli T. Kennedy 6 (fau. 9, 1963): President Konnody stated that o
= provision in the bil ho was signing contained an unconstitutional Iegislative vero. Ile announced that
{ “Tits therefore my intention. . to teat this provision 2s a request for information.” Id.
4) Statement by the President Upon Approving the Public Works Appropriations Act, Pub. Papers of
Lyndon B. Johnson 104 (Dee, 31, 1963): I'esident Johnson also found that a legislative veto provision
was unconstitutional und stated that he would treat it as a request for information.
5) Statement About Signing the Public Buildings Amendments of 1972, Pub. Papers of Richard Nixon
686 (June. 17, 1972): President Nixon stated that a clause conditioning the vse of authori by the
xecutive branch on he approval of a congrossioual cotnnittee was unconstitutional. Ife ordered the
agency involved to comply with "the acesptable procedures” in tho bill "without regard to tho
uncangtiwtioual provisions | have previously eeferreil t." Id, at G87.
6) Statement on Siyning the Department af Defenss Appropriation Act of 1976, Pub. Papers of Gerald
R. Ford 241 (Teh, 10. 1976): President Ford stated thar a commie approval mechasism was
unconstitulional and announced that he would "teeat the unconstinafional provision . to the extent it
requires further Congressional committee approval, us a complete nullity” 1d, ut 242.
7) Statment on Signing Coastal Zone Munugsment hwprovement Act of 1980, Pub. Papers of Timmy
Cari 2335 (Oct. 15,1980): President Carter sated that a legislative veto provision was
unconstitutional snd that auy aitemp! a a logislative veto would "not [be] rogarded as legally binding."
a
* # Sulementon Signing the Union Sration Redevelopment Act of 1981, Pub, Papers of Kouald
{ Reagan 1207 (Dec. 29, 1981): President Reagan stated that a legislative velo was unconstitutionsd and
sonounced that "Jfhe Seerctary of Transpartation will not... regard himself as ogally bound by uy
such resolution.” 10,
9) Swretuent On Signing the Nutiopal and Community Services Act of 1990, Pub, Papers of George.
Bush 1613 (Now, 16, 1990): Presidont Bush rejected the constitutionality of provisions that required
Presidentislly appointed board cxercisiag executive ATthority 1o include, among ts 21 members,
“seven members nominated by the Speaker of the House of Representatives ... [uid] seven members
onuinated by the Majority Leader of tho Sonate." Id. at 1614. Ho announced thal the restrictions on his
choice of namiioes to the hoard "arc without leg farce or affect.” 1d.
10) 7. Compilation of the Messages und Papers of the Presidents 377 (Aug. 14, 1876) (rss, Grant):
‘This is one of the carkicst of many instances of a President "construing" « provision (io avoid
constitution) problems) in 2 way that scams to amount fo & refusal to enforce « provision of it. An
1876 stato dircoted that moficas be seat certain diplomatic and consulur officers “to close heir
offices." President Gran, in signing the ill, stated that, [in the licral sense of shis direction it would
be au invasion of (he constitutional prerogatives and daty of the Executive.” Jd, In order to avoid this
problem, President Grant "construfed]* this provision "orl 10 exercise the constitutional prerogative of
Congress over the expenditures of the Goverment,” 201 to “imply[] a right in the fegislative branch to
direct the closing or discontinuing of any of the diplomatic or consular offices of the Government," Id.
adn.
a ther Presidential Documents
1) APeesidential Legal Opinion, 65 Harv, L. Rev. 1353 (1053): This was u legal opinion from
‘President Franklin Raosevelt to Attomey Generul Jackson. President Roosevelt stated that he was
signing the Lend-Lease Act despite a provision providing for a legislative veta, "a provision which, in
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my opinian, is clearly wiconstrutional.” IZ. ut 1357. The Presiden stated thas, "(Jn order that L may be
om record as indicating my opinion that the forogoing provision of the so-calied Lend-Lease Acts
unconstitutional, and in order that my approval of the bill due to the existing exigencies of the world
[4 situation, may net be construed as a tacil acquiesccnos in any contrary view, T am requesting vou to
L azo his memorandun i the official files of the Department of Justice. Lam desirous of having this
doe for the further reason hat I should not wish my action in approviag the bill which includes this
invalid claw, o be used as a precedent for any future Legislation comprising provisions of a similar
nature,” [d, at 1358,
2) Message to the Congress on Leisfative Vetoes, Pub, Papess of fimmy Carter 1146 (Jun. 21, 1978):
In this memozandum President Carter expressod his song opposition to legislative vetoes and sated
that *[iJbo inclusion of [a legislative veto] in a bil will be an important factor in ty decision to sign or
fo vero it.” 1d. ac 1148, Ho fucther stated that, “[ajs for Legislative vetoes over the excciion of programs
already prescribed in Togislation and in bills T must sign for other reasons, the Excoutivo Branch will
generally reat them as ‘report-and-wait' provisions. In such u case, if Congross subsequently adapts a
cesolution to veto an Executive uction, we will give it serious consideration, but we will nol, under our
reading of the Constitution, consider it legally binding.” 1d. st 1149.
Historical Materials
1) Statement of James Wilson on Decembar 1, 1787 on the Adoption of the Federal Constitution,
seprinted in 2 Jouathan Ellial, Debales on the Federa] Constitution 418 (1836): Wilson argucd that tho
Constitution imposed significant — and sufficient — restraints on the pover of the lgislatco, and that
ho President wuld nof be dependent upon the legislatins. In this contest, he siated that "the power of”
the Cansiitution was paramount to the power of tho legislature acting under that Constitution; fori is
+ possible that he [ogislamue ... may transiress he bounds assigned iL, and at act may pass, in the
( usual aude, notwithstanding thet trunsgression; but when it comes to be discussed before the judges,
“+ when they consider ts principles, und find ito be incompatible with the supecior pawer of tho
Cansitution, it is heir duty to pronounce it void... In the same manner, the Prosideat of the United
States could shield himself, and refuse to carry into eifcet an act that vials fhe Constitution.” 1d, at
546.
2) Lettec from Chief Justice Chase to Gerrit Smith (Apr. 19, 1868), quoted in J. Schuckers, The Life
and Public Services of Selman Porlland Clase 577 (1874); Chase stated that President Tohnson took
the proper action in removing Sccretary of War Stunlon without Senate approval, in ight of Johnson's
beliof that the statutory restriction on his removal authority was unconstitutional, In tis cegard, Chase.
commented that "the President hil a perfect right, and indeed was undor the highest obligation, to
remove Mz. Stanton, if fie mae the removal not in wanton disregard of a constitutional law, but with a
since belief that the Tenuro-of-Office Act was unconstitutional and for the purpose of bringing the
‘question before the Supreme Count.” 1d. at S78.
Congressional Muerials
1) The Presidents Suspension of the Compeiition in Contracting Act js Unconstitutional, LR, Rep,
No. 138. 99th Cong., 1st Sess. (1985): Tho House Committee ou Government Operations concluded
hit tho President lacked the authority to refuse Lo implement any provision of the Competition in
Contracting Act. Tho Comittee stated that, *[tJo adopt the view that one's oath 1 support and defend
the Constitution is a license o exercise any available power in furtherance of one's own constitutional
interpretation sould quickly destroy the entire constitutional scheme. Such a view, whereby the
i President pledges allegiance to the Constitution but then determines what the Constitution means,
inexorably leads to the usurpation by the Fxecutivs of the others roles.” Id. at 11. The Commitice also
stated that "[(Jhe Bxceutive’s suspension of the faw circumvents the cobstiutionally specified means
for expressing Executive objections to law and is a constitutionally impermissible absolute veto
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power.” [dat 13.
+ 2) Memorandum from the Congressional Reseasuh Servios tp the Commies an Government
i Operations copcerning "The Exceutive's Duly to Enforce the Law" (Feb, 6, [985), reprinted in
% Constitutionality of GAO's Bid Protest Function: Hearings Befors a Subcom. of the Tose Comm,
‘ou Ubvernmient Operations, 99th Cong, 1st Sess. 544 (1085): This memorandum stated that the
President lacks the authority Io decline to enforce statutes. The CRS argued that "[flho refusal of the
President to execute the Jaw is indistinguishable from the power to suspend the laws. That power, as is
true of the power Lo amend or to revive an expiced law, is a foglslative power.” 1d al 554,
Cases {uot included in the submited terials)
1) Myess v. United States, 272 11S. 52 (1926): Ihe President refused to comply with - that is, caorce
=a limitation on his poser of removal that he regarded os unconstitutional, even thovgh the question
‘ad not been addressed by the Suprcine Court. A member of Congress, Senator Pepper, urged the
‘Supreme Court to uphold the validity of the provision. The Supreme Cow vindicated the President's
interpretation without any. raember of the Cowt indicating thal the President had acted unlawfully or
inappropriately in refusing to enforce fhe removal restriction based on bis belief that it was
unconstitutional.
2) United States, v. Lovett, 328 U.S. 303 (1946): The President coforced a staune that directed him to
withhold compensation from theee named employees, even though flc President believed the lay to be
‘wnconsiitutionsl. The Justice Department arpued against the constitutionality of the statute in the
ensuing litigation. (Lhe Court permiticd an aitomey to appear on beh of Congress, amicus curse, bo
defend the statute.)
(3) INS Chadia, 462 15. 919 (1983): This caso involved the withholding of citizenship from un
applicant pursuant ta legislative veto of an Attomey General decision to grant citizenship, Despite a
Carter Administruion policy agaist complying with legislative vetoes (see Carter Presidential
memorandum, supra), the executive branch enforced the legislative veto, und, in so doing, allowed for
jodicial review ofthe starute. As with Lovett, the Justioc Dopartient argued igains the
consitutionality of the statute.
4) Morison v. Olson, 487 U.S. 654 (198): The I'resident viewod the independent counsel statute 45
unconstitutional. The Attomey Geseral caforced it, making findings ud forwarding thera to the
Special Division. In litigation, hovivor, the Justice Department attacked the constintionality of the
Hatuic ond left its defense t the Scuate Counsel, as amicus curiae, and the independent counsel
hersclf.
5) Freytag v. Commissiongz, 501 U.S. 368 (1991): A unanimous Court ruled thet the appointment of
special cial judges by the Chief Tudge of the United States Tax Court id nat violate the Appointments
Clause. Five Justices concluded that the Tux Court was x "Court of Law" for Appointments Clause
‘purposes, despitc the fact that it was an Article | court, so that the Tax Court could constitutionally
appoint inferior officers. Four Justices, in a concuatcace by Justice Scalis, contended thal tho Tex Court
as & "Deparument” under the Appoiniments Clause. The concurrence stated that "Court of Law” did
ot include Articlo T courts aod thet hc Framers intendod 10 prevent Congress from havin the power
both Lo create offices and to sppoiut officers. In his regard, (he concuzrence stated (hat "it was not
‘enough simply to repose the power wu cxcente the laws (or fo appoint) in the Prosident; it vas also
, mecessury lo provide him with the means to resist legislative encroachment upon that paver. The
{mons solccted were various, including a scparate political constituency, to which ho lone was
“responsible, and the power ta veto encroaching laws, 3c0 Art. I, § 7, or cvon to disregard them shen
they ore unconstitutional.” Kd at 906 (Sealia, J, concurring),
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6) Lear Sigler, Inc., Kesey Products Division v. Lohman, 862 F.2d 1102 (9th Cir. 1988), withdrawn
in part 893 F.2d 205 (94h Cir. 1990) {en banc): The President refused to comply with provisions of the
Competition in Contractiniz Act that he viewed as unconstitutional and thereby allowed for judicial
{resolution of the issue. ‘the Ninth Circuit ejosted the President's srpuments uhoul the consitutionality
‘of tho provisions. The court further determined tut Iear Siegler was u provailing party and vas
entided t atiomoys' foes, bosause the executive branch actod in bad faith in refusing 1 exceule the
contested provisians. In this regard, the cout stated that the President's action wus "ulorly at odds with
the texture and plain hnguage of the Constitution, because a statute is purt of the Lav of the land that
the President in obligated fo execute. 1d. at 1121, 1124. On rehearing an banc, the court ruled that Tear
Sieglor was not a prevailing party and withdrew the sections of the opinion quiz above.
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1 9. od you know thar. it's a criminal
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2 0. and ymirre aero Iu your lawyer
2 wr. Luopold. right?
2 Aves
2 0. AM you krou that 3. Leopeld recently
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2 14 LOL: Lot me just object
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32 Filed 5 lamsuit, in fedora] court on your behalf against
3 JaTirey Epstein sasking fifey ei ion dollars
1 IR. LEWPOLD: Same objection
5 IF you Know €ha srsaer Le Ui uulside of
16 our discussions, you my meer, IF 015 Ue
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5 discussions, 6 nos ansusr Ut yussLion.
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5 21 3 MR. (FIN:
22 a. You can smsuer the quession iniose —-
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2 WRT Lot ws Finish.
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10 wilh ie. Leopold — 1° nat asking about ht —- orz you
0 were Uist tr. Leopsic has filed a lsesuit in federal
12 curt seckiag MITE million dol lars From Joffrey epstoin
13 an your behals?
n HR LEOROLI: Sie alu ror
i Anything hat you lear through
it OAS INS betwen yuu and me, fn nat answor
EH Those ara protectid. IT yeu know Uieoudh any.
19 Our reatn of knowledge. you may ances
it THE WITHESS: No
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2 ©. You have no idea Tht 9. Leopold Filed a
22 fifty million-dollar lansuil on your behalf against
23 Jeffrey Fostein?
2 GR. LEQFOLD: Sama aly antion
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3 that i the only basis by eich you understand
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6 BY NR TEIN:
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8 WE. LEOPOLD: Don’L ansaer that question
° Fgninst. it's ottorney/cliunt privilege. Any
10 information you've loaned trough conversat ins
i UeLneen yau and | arn pratocted 17 you kaon it
2 through any other realm, you may ansver
3 WR TEIK: Are you going to say Hit Tar
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» MR. LEORoLD: oajaction
x Any conversations that yeu and 1 have md
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in Sou undarssand box to ans That Question, 56 not
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3 nu WR. LEOPOLD: As«ed anc znsumred
12 jection
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2 ir. Leopold. Yau ca: object ar privilege grounds
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1 WR. COLCBERGER. OFF the recor
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6 recard, Jack. Ee're mat Jack. Hur job is very
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0 1 don't think iC is apurepriate, especially
9 in the smal | con*inos af ths roun, tw be wry
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5 = WK. EIN Thet's nol happening. Stop
22 stop actual ly --
3 NR. LEOPOLD: If yau'ra gaing Ta Knterrupt
2 me, #0 going to cancel this deposition --
25 WR TEIN. Step misreprosorsing
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20 the record's clear SX clean
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22 asker youl -- | Know that you're ore o® The BST In
23 tom -- TAT This Sudio -- this nesds to be
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© WR. LRIPOLO: thers has boon no
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20 WR. TEIN W Lepeld, stop interrupting
2 this dopas tion
2 UR. LEOPOLD: What is the mhIDIT nurkser
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2 IK. LEOROLD: Do we Fave copies? 15 it or
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5 WR TEN: Then Torminats the deposition If
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2 ahjection: only on atturhuy/cl inl privilsge.
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» com ss my quesLion? Are you cone?
( io Okay I'm going to ask my questica.
TRE
ww 0 Liston, NE --
® UR. LEOPOLL: Hold on Stop.
2 I"ve Youn dong this far 20 plus yours an
2 ave wa a 10% of utturmuys, but 1 ve oor had an
2 experience | ike This were |v --
2 We TEIN: Stop your sacccres.
os IR. LEOPOLD: I yau continue To dp This.
2 Whether ITS wth a0 ov with my client, | will not
»
1 PUL up ith [Land | don’t. nad Ta put up WIT iL
» Ang 175 nol sppropriate. Ard I'm sara we
B Baldor gat kas al | nis. beceusa | know that he
A wouldnt da thes. Su € pill iL put up ith i.
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6 with this ch i1e SISting Nara. the say you're
7 acting, primarily owns mo, ane | NIT ROL put
a up win ie
9 WR TEI KIT you Flease stop your specch
0 so 1 can ask cuostions?
n WR LEGROID: Sa long as you ac
» provessicratly, | will do so. Bu if yon continue
I 0 do it this way. | m1 leave.
1 WR. TEIN: Suit yorsat
as memo om
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TASTES Remon snc BE HGD WETS N fi
JE SERDEUABI Rysaienn Epaus ind fons moneys,
1 I. LOPOLD: Ascod and arsmered
2 GjucLion.
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21 the car vho you rede ver with to Epston’s house?
» «I
” #0 ws the other girl a the car ith you
2 hat day?
2 A 1 honestly dane kaon
«2
1 Q. Had you aver seen er arora?
2 PEE
( 4 a. You tald tha police that aon you rade wer
to Epstein’ you ud no ides wha ste wns, right’
s a Gorroat
“ 0. Yeu sald the police that you didn’t iow
7 ber name, bi she kes Like rally dark, kind of |iko a
& Spanish girl?
9 Aves
10 0 Thess were you words. righ
n A es
12 4. 0a you ok kaow ahi sha is?
1 A wa sie
" 0 so it wen fi tho told you so Hie shock
15 your age to JufT Epstein?
3 A ves, ir
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1] TE SN Mais USE STEN
10 BE Shen
El 0 AHL Fig. Loris AIK Tur a minuze about
21 hon yeu Ties mee Jefe. Okay?
= A swe
2 When you First mel JIT he tried to find
20 oul how ald you sere, right
2 A Excuse ne?
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1 (3 WAR) pot CE CEE 0 BS
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3 BI ETI hac SEATON
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5 0. During Une massage Jeff asked you hay old
3 you sere, carracr?
( i A Yes, yes
~ s ow hadn't you alreacy sold Jats
5 assistant. the ons vho valor You LpsTe 1s, Lhat vod sens
10 ta cotlege an ld just moved down here From Ohi?
" A 1 mover spoke to Lie lady
2 0. De you want 0 retaNK tral ase
u ME. LEGPOLD. is Tar a cuostion?
oar em:
1 © Wn you gant to ruth uk hat answer?
1 A. Mo. 1 dicnT really speak with hr that
Ww moh
18 0. Da you war. Lo try to refrash your rery
19 on thar
» BRIEWO Du you teva something ta
” refresh har remary wit?
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. 2 speaking ouwtions?
21 We ILOPOLD: No. BUL Lo refresh sonsona’s
25 memory you show thom a document
EY
1 WR TCI: 1 Knok bon Lo do this,
2 HR. LEOPALE: Thon shuk bur 4 document,
3 HR. TEIN. Stop speak ng
a me ILOFOLD: 1m nol. going to Sop
5 speaking. 1's gaing Tu enrtinue wo nake the
5 rund
7 WR, EN You're obstructing. Ploass
i] 5.00.
5 NI. LEOPOLD: I'm nor chatrucsing. BL IT
0 youu want €a rafrash her resol lection, yan ned to
n ston ber someLhing
a the foundation end the predicate of that fuestion
u WR TEIN: Are you done?
Ws MR. LEOPOLD: 1 am nor, Thank you.
16 avam TEM
7 Q D3 you want ta try to refresh your memory
8 an To aheTher you had any conversation wih the asm sho
19 saiked you upstairs a Epslein's heuse ir which you fold
20 fer hel you uit to col lage and bud just moved down fron
2 ohio?
v2 WR. LEOPOLD: Cbjection. Dhject to ie
zs Yorn of the ywstion. Lack of Foundation and
2 frodicate
25 BYR. TEIN:
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1 A. You ean ansuer Uhe question
> A sure
5 0. 1s thers anything that meal refresh your
a memory that in fat yuu told Mr. Epstein’s assistant. Lic
3 one who walked yor Upstairs, Ul you kers zo cof lege and
5 you bud juss moves down hora from oniv?
3 A.) don’t remeuer saying That, but IT you --
8 1 don't romembor saying that myself, so
il Q. “hat would be a lia. right?
w A No i really don't romombor.
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" @ Ue you remcsber Detective Hichells Pagan of
15 the ol ice Department. Palm cach Pol Ice Deparinent?
Is ® A Yas
h 7 Q 69 you roms you spoke to her?
" A ves.
19 0. Du you remember that you tala atest ivy
20 Pagan EHMANRTIN SSO SHOUT i SEY TRE
CERI EEE ya a ACERS CL J di
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BH CSGERRER THVT] BN Ios IRE 1
E23 Q. And do you remoaber tolling Detective Pugen
Ed
1 thot shen you lied ta Ipstein about your age that. yo
2 sid it really fast so Epstein wwuldn't realize you ware
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« A Ma, | den’z cemorhor saying those meres
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9 eft 5 assistant thal you mere actenaing?
0 A det rember ering That conversat (an
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w Q That as a lie. Shou, ment ie?
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“ weszion. ack of Foundation. You're waking sn
sssunpion. She juss answored you she can’t tell
i Yau that.
” WEE: Speaking objection. dnd vau
1 well know saat. Wr Loogold
19 MWe. LEGROLD: She can © ansnor that
mn question. The aay you phrased that Qunstion.
2 You're purposely waking her nut be honest 1 her
= testimony. She can't snswor a question [ike Lal
” Sha toesn'L remember. Sc then yu say. “So you
u wera 1ying "TAT 5 wrproper and yeu know thet.
= Thats net a proper quastien. Aud uny allurnsy
=
1 That would do That £0 4 WITNGSSS br La 8 Darvon
¢ " TALS Sitting in this chair is non acting
\ 3 professionally. You can't ask u queszion ike
5 wi. Youzan co it. BUF ITS not proper. Md
s 1m Ure you wsren’L Lrainsd that way, cortainiy
5 nor. arhical ly.
7 Ww TEM: WE you stp?
u SR. LEOPOLD. I'm not going ta stop,
9 beans The wey You're asking thax question is
10 improper nc you knas it
n Ww. TEIN: You're lasing your cool
yu TER
wu o IE
u UR LLOPOLD: Trust ma, |'m very cain
15 hen | lose my cool. yeu 1 know it.
we TEI: 1 do knw it
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25 ba touch me.” Tore you Iying To Tw police Lien?
2 A Mo Hel 1 wasn aumg Fully Truth,
ss me 1 went tying
«
. Yeu ald the police rice wen vod spk Lo
2 dicho! lo Ragen tial "at mo Sim dic m0 touch mn." Didn't
5 yeu say thar to the pel ive?
i A vest
5 And you're saying That TART vas mT Tu ly
5 truthful 1s That shal you're saying naw?
7 A tarracn.
a Qa you're saying it you're aot 2utly
9 ermarul, TTS nor & 11s. Correct?
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” BOE BUR CREA Tosokien my Sia
i ME ar TEBE TE RET he Stier caring
YY THR FRR Jd MA BRICITDEAY
"a 0. Vou Lele the police. "AE no tines dif ho
16 touch me. You agree WIth tht. correct?
1 A. Ho. denmageoo with that, because ne did
7 tone me
0 Did you tell the police thas he did nor
19 Louch you, yes ar nat
= A IUs 2 possibility, but | da wit svmmber.
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2 a camoct
© sna you ave I very meh. dont you?
PN a ve
1 Bf whom you ors, th vase you ware Joking
{ 16 wilh ihe olhe- girls, veren's yu?
1 a wert, son JE cut ue other gir in the
20 tala th poise THE you mere joking aftercare. fre you
21 saying that thoy aera 110g © the pol Ics about. Lrat?
2 A Mo. Buta ection ar questias Tron
20 joking Sho mes Kind GF 11ka In a huspy say. ike, ‘Oh.
2 wnat aid you dor Whe cid you or Like hese Kine of
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= 5 ovary weskend vou d be rich, didat your
5 a ne tees soo JE tod ne.
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8 RRO Onjoction. Asked end
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0 TE UITHESS. No
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2 Tr NEESER LPR © ese POURLICK LE
#1 any snes spe IIR oo evar
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1s A Incorrect. | didn’t spend wy of the
15 woruy
I 4 Yew wn Lo Marshals, dics you?
1 A 1 vent along, yor. BU 1 dlanT
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7+ A annoys
%. 2 ML LEG Ohjoction
2 THE WITNESS: | guess you cauld say oat,
2 I. LOOLD: Objection. Luck of pred cate
2 and Foundation. Hischaractorizetion of varl 6
ES rustiwny.
i
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a 0. nd you warn with for the whole tine ot
5 Wshalls. correct?
3 Aves
; G. ow Tell mo dbual shan the federal
2 prosscitars told you about golting reinbursed
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{ a A 1 rave no igea WAT you're talk abet.
0 0. Toll we about chen te faderal prosscitors
1 spoke to you about Gort iy mney you feel you re antitled
12 Ls from br. Epstein
n Aoi dent know shat yeu rs Falking sod
i MDa you keow aho Warie Vil lafona is
5 Ao Wo, sir.
6 Q Did you ever moss with any Tedural
17 presesutors?
it] A 1 TANK -- yeah. {think they wero |
19 think hey were like 41
w Q. Un-tuh. Did you mect with “edoral
21 prosecutors?
22 A. They came To my a0use tio Lime, yas.
23 Q. When did they came ta your house?
2 A vary long ago.
( Ed Qos it this yoar, 20087
a
1 A ites not this yoor, mo.
2 a we IL 200m
H A. 1'% have ta say aL lest to years aga er a
4 your ugo, yeah. So it would bo 2007, 2006; bul it sas ©
5 win ago.
5 0. How many Federal prosecutors or FHI agents
7 core to your nose”
a A. I'ntrying to rosemer. | aent Lo say four
9 people cons.
0 Q Did Ley give you their bisirnss cards?
n A 17 thay did. | don't renesber, and thiy
32 recent toward mi Maybu wy parants have them. 1 con't
13 knox
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- Ei] Qed They ave you Tell cell phune umber?
15 A Me
15 0. Did you ever speak ta then on their coll
7 phones?
i A sir
12 Dic thay speak To your grits?
20 A. “nas somelhing you'd have to ask ny
21 paronss.
22 0. Ba you knax wnotuar Hhioy spoke Lo your
23 porencs?
os A Mo sic
2 van have aa iba?
“
1 A wo. sir
. z WR. LEOFOLD: Objection fsked and
A Bram TE
5 0. Sc il I aay the nave to you Marte
B Villefona. you dor L Kner sho thal is?
7 A we sic
[ 0. Hew nang women and he neny mon came ta
® your house?
10 A 1 want to say too ladies and Loo gugs.
kt 0. Did souonn named JerTiay Slomn com to
12 yw house?
3 A 1 dunT know names. sir
1 2. Da you know elie Ja Trey Slomn is?
® A Nasir
ig Qa you know via JorTrey Kerman 152
n A ves
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{ i GQ. hats Lhe tacyer una First sued pate n on
19 your benalf, right?
ES A ves.
2 Qs Mr. Herman advanced your asi ly ary
22 money?
2 Mi LIOKD: ny conversslions Lhat you've
2 had with Mr. Herren egarding that issue, vou ure
25 not 10 disclose. IF you ve learned in same other
a7
i Tashlon, you nay ansoer.
2 TE WITNESS: kay.
2 | weuldn’t know
4 Lm TEI:
5 a You don't knoa?
s A Mo
( : MR. LEOPOLD. Objection. Foundation
- e Atarrey/aliont privi legs.
o BY NR TEIN:
w 0 And you say you don © know oha dort Sloman
nist
12 A Mo wir
i Q Dows iL refresh your racel loation that no's
1 tha number TY ProSCCUTEr aT the U.S. Attorney's Stine?
15 A we
Ww Q. That he s weria Villatona's boss?
7 Am
Ws ©. Does It refresh your memary that he's the
19 ex-partnar of Jnff Horman, the [esl [anys aho sued
20 you -- sued k=. Epstein an your bekall for Fifty million
2 dollars?
” A. No. | don’t know aho Fo is.
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: 23 i. WITOOUT Telling me any conversations that
21 you've had aich your tawyors, a is IL at you selected
25 We. Herren 35 your Lamyor fram Sh 51,000 members ur Che
«
1 Florio Bar?
2 A did nan sats hin
. owed
a A wy mathe
5 A ome
i DE dant tell me shat you dissed
3 with hin. ere dit you wot hin
a A 1 wos Supping in ay -- he shoued up at ny
p " QO Whose house?
( » a ny reiens [EEE
Ed aos nse Eo I
«IR
IN A Yes
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17 coe
10 © and wo wie was Were?
2 a wy ore EE
2 [SR ————
on WR. LEOPOLD: Cbjestian mas calls Tor
» sttornayret tart. privilege
a wm En
5 4 har discussion dd you have with
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1 tr tormen in the presorce of [I
2 A wo
3 0. Wr discussions did you luvs in Ue
s Be GOHDGSER: (Ls Une witness's aunt
3 wm Tem
" a On, of your aunt
5 A Tho only ona That sve wer discussed or
0 ta
n Qed 5 you aere in a conersation ith
12 dr. Herman and your aunt?
nw A ves, si
ns Q. And you discussed privi aged artes during
15 that comersariont
( w AR. L700 Object th to form. | think
- a You nigh live Lo educate Fer an thar asrion.
© BYR TEI
° 0. You discussed tho aeeit
20 PR
2 0 oi EE v1 vou about any
22 conversations Un. she had with tr. Varma?
» AA Fares I'm concarmed, she's oer Spin
20 or she's mowr had u ComursaLion. She only opened the
25 door and then IatE. She's tho unc oho unswered the door
wo
' Oy uid te mein take piace a [EE
2 IE osc?
3 AL spat oh ght Us nigh ot her house.
4 0. dnd when on, this?
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Lo s A Awhile ag.
fi G4. ew tong age?
7 A. Aronth ard a halt ago. 1m guessing
8 a. A month ard a half sgn?
° A Un-hun
1° Gi SETIRIRTONY SIT ME teonae. filed
TM hee H IE CEERTAR SRST ORGENIE Glink:
2 EAE
3 Q Bld you mot chat an FBI agan= named Nashir.
1 Kirkendall, a wan?
15 A 1 dunt kaon.
A fo Dis Kirkendall soeak La you sbout
17 geting reimbursed fron Mr. Ipsta a7
Wn A. Fv rever had a dissussion with anyon
about getting ro wbursed trom Nr. Egstuin.
/ 20 0. Have you mer with an agort named Jus
% 2H charde?
2 Kum to my KoKlodge.
23 Q. Hox about an agent nawed 11m Slater?
2 A Mo, sir
2 Q. liow about an agent nswed Junior Ortiz?
5
1 A we
z Q. And we've loarnad ToL many of Uh girs
2 som of whom are zs old 3s 23, weer told by the
4 GOVernent that Lbey would Get mney at the ond of the
5 criminal prosecution. Doss that scund Familiar te you?
5 Ama sir
d 0. other than 0. Loagold here -- I'm not
2 uskiry sbout Ne. Wernan either —-
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© a od anyone ever discuss with you tat
11 you could get reimbursament for your domeyes?
wv A ts, sin
1s 0 Out yw or any menber --
" I IHSOLD: Are yo referring © 8
1s criminal mattar or a civil astter?
Bow Tn:
ww 4. bid you or ony meets
1° WR LEWOLD: Dncuso 09. Let me object ta
Ww th form af the question.
2 aw nm
a 0d you or any mswor of your Family ever
2 gots viclim motif cation letcar fram enyonc?
2 A 1 no longer live at what residence and |
24 soulent know,
{ ES RSs your testimeny is that you havo navor
5
1 receives a vicLim oli Fiction letter, corrost?
2 Rp —
3 Qo your easimony 15 ERAT you dor'L kc
4 IT your paras have ever received A victim notITicetion
«© tantar. correct?
. A correct
7 Q Have you given any cvidence to prosecutors
Bor lan cforcumnt. in this cass?
5 A Shat do you oman by svidenca’
10 Q Nall Anything thst you can touch ar fal?
n P—
12 WR. LEOPOID: chjoctiar Lo the form of the
nw auestion
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15 U. Sa you haven't. given anyEhing physical --
1 At
Wu 0. = any item to any prosezurar, police
6 afficer ar law anforcenont agent. correct?
i A Wy cerl phen “pir yoars agu ur threw years
20 age. bul that's ‘t
7 0. You yas your cell pore ta wham
22 A uiewl le pagan E
2 a. Did sho keep ity
2 A Ask har
25 a. vow gava it 30 lor and hen you din’t get
5
1 iL back at the and of tho meRTIngY
z A Wo. They. yesh. ha. They have IT. I'm
1 Q. tlw much money arg you heping Lu gat cut of
5 ur. Epstein?
3 SR. LEOPOLD: Objection to ~he “orm of the
? questian actarmay/client provi lsgs
0 aR. TEIN
fl Q low much money are you hoping to ger. you.
10 yourself, haping to got cat of Epslein?
n WR LEOROL: Same. Sams ulywlion.
2 allorey/ctient privilege
El Don’t ansuwr the question
WR mL IN
15 0.10 nat asking asout what your lasyer tald
5 you
” WR LEGROLD: 1% Instructing hor not to
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7 0 Aud just by coincidence, you ero aarirg
hor name tag, correct?
“ A Yes
wo 0. Your tastiony undo cath is That's ust
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A lotal honosty.
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12 going to be served uth 3 subpoena, torrent?
as A THE wasnt the Fs day hel --
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23 A Lun sev.
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2 A Mo 1 kaen
2 WR. LEGROLD: Just amswer it. St calls fer
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5 IH RIES: Okay. Ro.
5 ev TEM
7 Wow you can explain the anspor That your
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0 wore tol ing ne Sul people ere ioking For mo So yos.
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12 no idea who they mere ar WaT Tie © nteditions vere. ut
131 Uugat they rere just people | dit wat Lo Lalk Le
18S 1 JUSt di wnt Lu Lak Zo ther. And ovory Tim
15 they'd com ta rk aL Uiere. And 50 hoppans the
15 night that they came in mo and my TF lend sxitehed ram
17 tags. Ko big deal
1. 0 Tess He, dss ie
kd WLIPDLD: ODjeeTion. Dun't ansuer Lhat
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2 I. Ko could sn Lhe questions and we'll al on a
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23 Iwill ror of low her to snswer that
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4 vimes already. Ihe fact not Conse! dossn' dike the
5 arsasr, that's a di Freront query
© MR. TEIN: Siop making speaking objections
7 We. LCOPOLD: 1° nol. 1'm not going ta
2 PUE Up with IT. brcause ILS in upprepricle. _ack.
° and you know it. | will not al lox Counsel Lu.
0 Borale a Aitness. ahether t's in c-iriral Case
n ar a wiv: | vase, wheher my client or
12 TEI: Caln doan
13 WR LLOPOLD: Excuse me
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5 proper.
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u @RLOMOLD: IT hie wants To say That she's
® tying after asking (t Tive Tinos and hor
Ws explaming in grec detail, he con do that fut
EY I'm hot goirg tu elon hur Lo amar, nor be
El harassed ay him, It's {proper
” WR. COLOBERGER: Okay. Fut your respansc
El That Counsol dosnt like the question -- or
2 dosn't like the answer —- Just 100 ws Finish,
25 HR. LEGPOLD. absolutely. | wasn’t gaing
50
1 to inter rept you
2 IR. GOLCBERGER: Jast recuires us to say ve
4 You and | or you and Ur. Tein eho are testitying
5 here. It's the vitness.
5 MI IEOKOLD: Line. But after the sien
7 tims of asking the same questicn and thon epaing
1 hack and painting @ “inger at her 2nd saving.
° you're a liar —
© WR. TEM: That didn't happen
] WR. LEOPOLD: That's fins. But I'm rt
2 going To allo hur to arses Liat gusstion because
*% she's ansaored The sam LOSTION and has
iT] explained it.
15 Nok Ccunsel might ka sitring Thors rubning
1" his head with a migraine. “rat's his probion
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: n Siior hur Lo be berated [ko that.
2 1%. COLOBERGER. Actual y. war very happy
2 with tha answer
2% We LED hats ret
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2 hac?
2 wm Todo
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+ We LEORILD: THIS i realy big Tuff ther
2 you're going throcgh, aut That's Tins ust ask
s Your question ard move on. rm dn iT oie Tims
4 IF yo sont wndor stand 1E. 1°11 tet you fal lov
s Up, Bat I'm nat qeing to ator you Lo ask the sare
5 estion Lh kine and again and thon call hor
Is 7 liar. ust ask tho questivn. get the answer and
% » move Lu the nest subject matter
ML TER: Ted, 1m sitning right acres
10 the table rom you,
n WR. LEOPOLD. Ves. ir.
22 WROTEIR. Please be quis. ton't yoil.
a WR AEOPOLD: 1 will not be quiet.
" We. TEI: Sap voli ing
a» UR. LEOFOLD: Levin, wher I'm yolling
i our 1 know it. 1 wil not =
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1s Lows, Wr, Tein.
m IR. TEIN. You watched me for thao days a
7 the cridentiary fearing abars you sat 1 the back
2 of Tha courtrou. Yeu steule know iho | an,
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w
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. 0 You Just got hua Lo Fie for you, din's
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6 © he cok ear upon sel?
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1 era Tem
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; s THE WITHESS: Can you repeat The question?
6 WR LEOPOLD: Le me ust sate for the
7 record
BEY TEN
® Q. Once the police — isn't it. trua that
ur. Fpatoin’s procoss serves had Le sk Lhe police to get
11 you aut of the restaurant sa that thoy could su wy you?
2 A ftacarrect. 3 boss cal led the palice
IH © md once Lhe pol ics shored Up, =a SEOf you
Fron tying =o aveid service, won wd up another |ie thet
15 the process servers hd harassed you, tn’ That
correct?
Ed A incorrect
Ed 0 You lie all the time, can't you?
i WR. LEOFOLD: Oblaction.
20 THE WITNESS: Incarrac.
2 dl. Yeu hav a Myspace page. don't you?
2 A. Me larger do | have 3 WySpce page. |
73 dolores iL.
25 a when rd you elute your MySpace nage?
65
1 A a ceupta days ogo.
2 0. ¥no totd you to taka your MySpace page dom
3 a couple of days age?
4 A. Nobody. |'m sick snd tired of Myspace.
5 Q vou ail of 4 sudden cot sick and irae of
5 MySpace and just 3 Tow days before Tals cepusiticn you
7 desided tn elas your WSPACE PAGE. Correct?
B A carrent
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" Q. lie yo take your WySpeca page dom bucnuse
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1 WySpaces ovr the fast years. | just. qo Lind of Thom
16 und dalotn thom hocauee drm nd ke nen ues
» @ We're going ta far aout thor.
” S¢ you caloLe your Space page ATCar you
21 von alvandy unter bpuons Tor. Unis deposition. correct?
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2 us vo soe. IIR
( 2 A Nothing.
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2 ina ent,
B A You do that
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15 piercings. dor't your
1" A Incerrect.
7 Q You eve body piercings. don T. you?
w A ves
1 0. You nave Sour bady pioreIngs: Isnt ial
rhe
»n A Five.
22 0. har Than the piareoirgs on your ears --
23 1x ot talking about shat —-
En A On Un ro; just one.
2 © And uhare 15 the ans bedy piercing?
51
1 a smelly
2 a. When did you get that?
( s A Hor fy Ulritaay, wiv ry stepeocher ard my
1 father.
3 Q. And wien was that?
5 A Wher 1 ows 12
? 0. okay So yon had that boy piercing shen
© you met Epstein. correct?
® A. IL Wight have been, or maybe that - yeah,
10 either my 13th birthdsy or wy 1501 | lonestly dow'L
1 remsmber.
12 0. Mow you've Tied abaut your age to get into
1 2rs by Using drivers licenses that aren t yours
1 eorract?
i A nearest.
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1 4. nd you've fod sbout your age co bay beer,
2 correct
n A Ineorrsce
2 Q Yours swan ing under sath That you'va
2 weer lied to stares Shout your ug?
2 A Ue never lied To a Fron wel by ue of
2 anything
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2 do your
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5 Myspace pages, don't your
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5 US. BELOHLAVER: 75 0017
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2 mere 16, in’ your
2 A incorrect.
2 UR. LEOPOLD: ust sneer tho qustion
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20 aw wo
6 © Wao you can explain your answer.
5
' A 1 Kuow thet 1 Juve seen all of Shes: ane |
2 know tht this on is mine
3 an you go com?
a NR. LEOPOLD. Just fer the rocard, you're
H poiating to tha photo.
5 THE WITIESS: 1m part ng Lo
sow TEN:
8 ® DDILG RE Sneha an
9 Jor reson aie
10 AE CORR.
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% ” A. Correct. That's wing Troma couple years
) 13 ago that | have nol been on base | don't use That.
WM Flease keep going Goan. please. Au | think het 's it.
15 botusu Lhare's na she —- Just. that one is mine.
is SOMBIE YSSEansatn i BE EES
17 message USN BAI YIORA wirsetd
10 Wi CRE.
1 0. nd wen you arate 1B 5 your age a1 your
20 uyspace page. that wes 4 lie, wealdn't it?
A A Correct
2 © Did you fic about your WSpace pugs back
23 ton becuse you coLicn't post an WSpece UnIsss yeu mers
2 mr
rs A Correct. There sas a rule many yours ago
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1 that you had to be 18 Lu have a VySpace
2 © 52 you 110d sbout your age 50 you cul
3 post cn MySpace, right”
5 A Yes
B © Lal's gu back Lo te t5p one on this page,
5 mo
7 HES EET TRIN DRI artis
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4 tm nw I REIS CAR mime
1 tment wicisa ise sas IE
mr IR + is os NAVEL DR:
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13 BE QUES
“e Q. Row las go back fa the one That yeu Bre
16 pointing ta hefare on tis page, ahare iL says your age
( 10 15 16 and you lied bout. your aga fa ust RySpace, okay?
- PR
1% Allright Wy did you Cally put your
15 true ge un you SySpice prarilo Fru days bera'e yuu
0 HRRSSERS A oC IDET AE IDLMEEIE LI Grate
2 A ESAT TY dat
22 WR LEGPOID: IT you don’t understand, ask
= Nil asi Ue question again
P We TEI: Don couch
2 IHL BIIRLSS: dont know eich MySpace
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. you're talking shout.
2 aw TE
3 Q The ypc pags Lal you're just po’nting
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5 A ves.
6 TE AE SA ADR YUE DAE TS
‘ mo mers
s hy did yas Finally post your true ags an
9 your ySpuce profile --
10 Awe
" a Four days before you sets scheduled to
12 Leslify before the Srand Jury?
n A 1 honssely don't know uhich Myspace
a because |ve wd | ka x buat! ion WySpaces and in that
15 year, | bad to, that are and anathor an aid Lil oo’
46 Loon welled. So | do's know ohich ane you! “n revere ng
wom
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10 oun Sis oc BA 16 KC AT Thrice
¢ 20 eran par wor GRE ISIE TSE ST
a A ta
2 9 You don’ U rember iat.
2 PRS
2 Q. Do you reuember Darastive scarey? Dad you
5 over Bad 4 DotesL ive Recarey?
”
i A 1 don’t know the names,
3 Qo mony diferent detectives hive you met
© with on this case from Pain Beach?
4 K. Prosbly e good six or seven. myba
5 0. Did ona of the detect ves tall you botora
§ You testified In Lh Crend Jury that yeu should take your
J Myspace ego a put your true age?
a PRS
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10 your hase So pick YI Up 0 gat you Te TostiTy In fret
1 of the Grand u-ye
» A ossitly, main because | didn'L Save a
5 ride (me only 19 or 15 at the Tim:
" a our wm div arive yor
Ws Aw
Q Suepmn didn aw your
A Chink my dad. oh. my cad / ny dad rove
1 ze.
1 0 Your dad aro your
2 Aves wi
2 4.50 your testimeny is Detective Rcarsy did
22 not dive you, correct?
Fe WR. LEOPOLD. Objection /asked snd
2 amssnron
( ES THE WITHFSS: Nom pretty sure my dad
n
) Grove me because ho ans thare ul th me
2 wm mn
3 © Nid any detwctive tel! yeu co change yar
4 306 In your MySoaze page to put your true uge?
5 A wo sie
5 4 ow you alse Lied on your wspass pays
7 uboul. your income, dicn’t your
s A ves
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17 EFOSC ff pres
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n Dt you say thar?
2 AW To uy Kioutedys or recol tection. |
21 have never said anything 1ike et.
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2 swe FER
zu A Youn
Fl Because te, fpstoin over cane to yeur
ws
1 dad's house. corrcer?
> A Correct
3 0 ad no on oho works fer Ne. Epstein mer
4 did something ta your dad's Tiros. 00d Ley?
s AR. LEOPOLD: Objection Lack of
} 5 Findaeion, predicate.
( , bone guns
- a wow Ton
o GIT nat true SL ir Epstein almost
0 Kil your Father. is it?
n UR. LEOFOLD: Dajection. Asked and
2 anemorod. lack or Foun on, predicate.
a arm TEM:
in QO You can anmaer.
» I
® 4. How you to1d tho pol ice that yuu didn't
17 now who was in the car with you and llaylcy on the day
10 you went to Easterns house. didn © you?
ww PE
2 0 Awl Sat ws a lis, wan't it
2 A ies tho trum.
2 0 Yau told the sole ist wre as somone
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73 in tha car noXt Ta you and yeu svesiMical ly said you
20d dnt know her nos, Fant?
x A correct 1 do not Kaw Ler news.
i
i You said. 1 Gen'T Kook her rad. bul she
2 was dark ike a Spanish girl." That wore yor nrds,
3 right
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5 WR IEE Objet ip, Asked wd
5 Je
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s GC Who was in the par thar day with you wud
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0 A AGN 1 do Hot Kno.
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u Q. You lied to the police about sho wes sa ho
15 car with you ant [EE icin’ your
13 A Incorrect
w Q der wn ask you soe questions about oho you
“0 sey tue spoken Lo about this case All right
i AG una
ES) a vid you spon to your I sisuer EEE
2 A War tn derail but or courso sie keewsi
22 sre's Temily and yes
» 0 ft he emit?
» AT dont THK she has an e-sail
2 © mt 1s her phang umber?
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’ A Oh gh 1 don't kro oF tho Tp af ny
3 [SR —
5 bo the ives with wy wm
5 on oven
. PRE
; a. vat sbour SEs bey trond Paul? Di
© you speak to Niu about Epstein’s cane?
. A Thecs my wns buy friend. dy siseer
10 dows’ have a boy Frio. Wy ms oOING'S rate is
11 Foul, 50 maybe you cel them confused
ES Go you kaw us phot muster?
1 I
1 0 tere dees he live?
PRI
{ 15 o. n the same Bouse oth her?
LE: 7 A. Ves. They re married.
® © So nor bay rien: send?
© A Ven. husband
» 0. Have you spoken vo rere JEN ovo
2 at nappa in Ur, EpSSEIN'S Meuse?
2 A dos in desail. ban i none th basics
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va a mat is hes emai?
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s Adm
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1 A ves
n 0 You dant know aha his address 167
2 MK. LEOROLD. OBjection. Asked and
as ansaid Sho Just sard she doesnt kao
WF vont sone
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2s pr—
oem Tem
FA ————-———
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py » QO wae strest ia iw ont
< n A IT an upartmen complex: its ro»
2 street
= Q. hats the name af the apartment compli?
» «I
= a. sar aprrient ner 15 167
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2 Q When ras the act tim you wal Unrer
3 A ut visited this pase sookend. | hares to
© rest ans 10st time | went there.
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1 A Be Buc just to let you knoe, | don't
15 really kno names. 17 you hese pictures, of Shara faces
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1 0. MII right. Let mace it 1 can reriesh
1 your menary.
a ay
» 6 toes it refresh your nesory ooo
2 1s the tne girl mo ans ul legatiors abou HpStOIN, but
72 refused Lo show ta the Grand Jury shen she hod to testify
2 abeur than under ose
2 A te sir 1 have no entadge of any cther
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9 We. ormen. wo 1s suing Epstein for Tivty million
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1s A 1 don't knan sha Uhl is sicher
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ww A 1 dont kom, si
1 Ga you remeadir macing a scoement to
20 Datective Pagan tars in the police roparts?
a A We
2 tave you usd Lhe pel ice reparts in this
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2 Kove
2 4. They im or Uns Interns, right?
o1
, A Yes, | think
. 2 yon we WG ON FBO ERS
3 ® GORGE EERIE Ohta arn A a i BRACES
1 ERE BED
5 Be YER
o 0. You didet went to ss thet happen. rignt?
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- I
w WR. LEOFOLD: Objection. Asked and
" ansacron
12 am. TEM
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s A Ths use hile ago. a yoar or Tao or 5
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( 1 A. What reportors lve you spoken to?
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19 reporters have thay spekan tu?
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21 you ean 560 In thal newspupar
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8 you've said. Lez's uk Lhe cusstions. Okay?
B WR. LEOPOLD: Ask an appropriate question.
10 WR. TEIN: Are you goiry to stop Lalking?
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