FI:1402 (Rev. 5.11-ID)

FI:1402 (Rev. 5.11-ID) SOD-NY-3027571 Serial 636 -1 of 4 - FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION D~t• f • try 04/16/2021 ) was interviewed at the FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION, -Field Office. Present for the interview was AUSA After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agents and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: This situation came on radar around 2008-2009 which he started paying attention to it. ( ) told some things and researched some things. told about a meeting with "you guys", referring to the investigative case team. Around moved to currently works as met in 2002 and he fell in love with her but she had another boyfriend at the time. They were at her does not see again until was still friends with during that time and they had mutual friends. sees at a party and they then begin dating from party at her house in At the time was living with her terrible. She was very charming but she was a terrible person. states that needed her ( and manipulated Inwsliptamm 09/02/2021 4 fileN SOD-NY-3027571 (In Person) Datedmfbed 09/08/2021 by This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and n loaned to your agency; it and itscontents are not to be distributed mitotic your agency. 3508-001 Page I of 4 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00006891 EFTA00158466 FD.302e (Rev. 5440) 50D-NY-3027571 Serial 636 500-NY-3027571 Continualion of FD.302 of (U) Interview of her. blamed him for things. .On 09/02/2021 ,page 2 of 4 Her did not like then grew up and out. and Around and • moved to and that was good for When and were living together, bills growing up because he had known thatl tells that someone helped to pay for her school. When was drunk it would come out and she would break down. She would tell him that it wasn't for free. She received a lot of money from JEFFREY EPSTEIN (EPSTEIN) an asked her how they paid tells a story that on one occasion there were other girls there and one girl in particular started to cry because she didn't want to go into "the room". At this point in the story gets vague with but stated the girl didn't have to go in and would go in. did not give details of what actually happened in the room but she would say it wasn't free and she had to "do things" and "it wasn't fun". EPSTEIN is like asks if she had sex and she responds by crying. EPSTEIN manipulates likr did to her. did not want to tell all the gross details so she would stop telling him details after she says "massage". Other girls would be there. Often was being told what to do. She had to do it, would tell her to go. tells that when she was about 10 years sit on a prominent old man's lap. At some point, calls III out and observes this conversation. She says to "how could you not know?...I put a roof over our head". denies knowing. 3508-00I Page244 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00006892 EFTA00158467 FD•302a (Rev. 54.10) 50D-NY-3027571 Serial 636 SOD-NY-3027571 Continuation of FD•302 of (U) Interview of •o 09/02/2021 .Page 3 of 4 recalls saying that there was a woman that was with EPSTEIN. She tells this to around 2008-2009 but does not tell him the woman's name at first. says that this woman would bring girls and she was always there to coach them and be there for the girls. She would encourage the girls and tell them that it's OK. Eventually tells that this woman was (GHISLAINE) MAXWELL. recalls at the time saving some links on his computer in a folder containing EPSTEIN articles. did not want people to know Someone had contacted to ask her questions about EPSTEIN. It was then that pieced it together that the guy that she was going to see was EPSTEIN. recently told that she does not want When it all became public is when recalls that she started telling him in bits and pieces but would do his own research on his own. When would drink she would break down and tell and then regret it the next day. didn't have to ask her what happened after it became public. learned that it was EPSTEIN when it all became public and he pieced it together. By when it all became public, is referring to the first time that EPSTEIN had gotten in trouble. Prior to this, just knew that was approached by just a "rich old man". didn't learn of MAXWELL's real name until EPSTEIN actually went to jail more recently and he pieced it together again. Someone had found a recalls asking `Is that the woman?" once MAXWELL's name became public around this time. asked this within the last 3 years. had been the one to remind about "the girl" and was surprised that remembered telling him about her. he didn't talk to her for a few years. 3508-001 Page 3 of 4 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00006893 EFTA00158468 FD-302u (Rev. 5440) SOD-NY-3027571 Serial 636 500—NY-3027571 ComuwalionofFE6302of (U) Interview of .0n 09/02/2021 Ng, 4 of 4 emotional person. She is emotionally drained She is an tells that she met DONALD TRUMP when she was with EPSTEIN when she was about 15 years old. EPSTEIN says to TRUMP "Oh she's a good one right" to which TRUMP responded "Yeah". This happened at Mar-A-Lago. says that TRUMP was a regular visitor at EPSTEIN's. also says "Prince Albert" was there a lot as well. Everything that read on the news lined up with everything that had previously told me about the situation. knows that was meeting with the government on the date of this interview and he knows is also meeting with the government. tells to be prepared as it may be tense. 3508-001 Page 4 of 4 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00006894 EFTA00158469