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From: Deepak Chopra l Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2017 6:58 PM To: Glen Rein; Menas Kafatos Cc: JACK SARFATTI; [email protected]; [email protected]; David Kaiser; Sharon Weinberger; [email protected]; Henry P. Stapp Subject: Re: Deepak Chopra falls off The Edge ;-) Thanks Glen ! Spin charge electrons particles are human constructs for modes of knowin= and experience in awareness--in this case mathematical abstractions in hu=an consciousness. Macro objects are also human construct= for modes of perceptual experiences.This includes the macro object called brain . An object ( brain ) experienced in awarene=s cannot be the source of awareness. If there is a reality outside of=human knowing or experience it is by definition unknowable Consciousness is non local and formless. Its excitations as qualia--sens=tions , images, feelings & thoughts create the illusion of space time =ausality and observer independent reality . Menas and I elaborate this in our book particularly in the section on qu=lia mechanics Best Best &nbs=; &n=sp; discoveringyourcosmicselt=om chttp://=ww.discoveringyourcosmicself.com> <=span> From: Glen Rein Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2017 1:30:07 PM To: Menas Kafatos EFTA_R1_01339319 EFTA02355738 Cc: JACK SARFATTI; Dee ak Cho ra• Sharon Weinberger; enry tapp Subject: Re: Deepak Chopra falls off The Edge ;-) David Kaiser; On a more serious note, here's my interpretation of Deepak=s statement "4D reality (small r) is virtual" Thus it is not physical. Some Eastern traditions believe=reality is an illusion. Thus, what we see is not what is out there. What we see is our brai='s interpretation. "Space/time is not fundamental" Most eastern traditions say consciousness is fund=mental. Reality manifests from consciousness and consciousness is in everything (living and no=living) "Funandemtal reality is formless" Fundamental Reality (capital R) or consciou=ness is not physical, has no mass, charge, spin or form. This clearly contradicts what most neuroscientists believe, that the m=nd is a manifestation of the brain. This philosophy states the mind (individual consciousness) like everyt=ing else is derived from Universal consciousness. My last two presentation= at FOM proposed a phase conjugation-based mechanism for converting univer=al consciousness into virtual energy which I believe is the fundamental nature of the mind. -Glen On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 9:31 AM, Menas Kafatos wrote: Not you for sure. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 8, 2017, at 7:02 PM, JACK SARFATTI Does anyone find any meaning in Deepak's statement below? Just curious. On Mar 7, 2017, at 11:21 PM, Deepak Chopra wrote:<=div> Everyday reality is virtual Spacetime are not fundamental Fundamental reality is formless Deepak Chopra MD wrote: 2 EFTA_R1_01339320 EFTA02355739 <https://www.discoveringyourcosmicself.com=> &I=;image001.png> <https://www.discoveringyourcosmicself.com/> <https://www.discoveringyourcosmicself.com=> chttp://www.discoveringyourcosmicself.com/= target=> On Mar 8, 2017, at 7:28 AM, JACK SARFATTI wrote: https://www.edge.org/con=ersation/david_chalmers-the-mind-bleeds-into-the-world <https://www.edge.org/conversation/david_chalmers-the-=ind-bleeds-into-the-world> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups &=uot;foundationsofmind" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e=ail to [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout chttps://groups.google.com/d/optout> . 3 EFTA_R1_01339321 EFTA02355740