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From: jeffrey E. <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 4:28 PM To: Bob Berwick Subject: Re: every new tech or science is used in an attempt to " =eat the market.. computers. apps. socila media.. etc. =C2 sex money power. all the same On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 1=:11 PM, Bob Berwick < 1<rnailto > wrote: clockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 .8ex;border-left:lpx=#ccc solid;padding-left:lex"> Jeffrey So your view is that the social media jazz is a fad that will fizzle=and fade fairly soon, no? Bob On Sep 5, 2015, at 1=:00 AM, jeffrey E. <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]» wrote: i will spend all the time you like teaching=you about investing and the markets. simpler than =t appears.. I would like chomsky to follow in the =ootsteps of hibert, turing , and encourage work in their=fiels by presenting goals to the disciples. On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Bob B=rwick <mailto > wrote: Hi Jeffrey, Ah very cool. So let me try a few out. I guess it partly (! of course!) depends on how much =e get to stick into the box. I'm fine with prize money, =ostly because as you know from Marvin, there's no way to=get funding for "real" problems like these or those that M=rvin studies, nsf & darpa and toyota (as you just saw) only =are about self-driving cars. So I'd be overjoyed to get =ome way to fund new students.... Chal=enge 1. Discriminating language from noise. This is doabl=. Partha Niyogi nearly did it. A six-month effort. =div> Challenge 2. Ah, depends on the sentences and wha= 'coherent' means. Does Noam mean 'screw=d up in some way'? We're not so far from that. =div>Further than 1. That system I showed you that can isolate difft =actors in *syntax* as a small set of constraints can do some of =hat. Recall Shimon Ullman's 'rigidity principle=E2 about the interpretation of points moving EFTA_R1_01610440 EFTA02489761 in the visual=field - same coherence idea. Challenges 3 and 4 a=e much harder, we'd have to know more about 'meaning =99 and 'inference'. I wouldn't be happy =ith statistical curve fitting here. Finally - tho=gh I will drop this, because your time is too valuable and the problems yo= and Noam pose are the important ones, to me — what was =our estimate of how much that twitter-in-love entrepeneur would =ave lost if he did honestly follow his twitter-predictor during =he first week of this month? I guess I am still baffled about the =E2 market" for their product unless it's as=you say, the market for the new, shiny toys - which is just about salesman=hip, not science. Anyway, I'll drop it - I was jus= curious as why/how •any' of that social media stuff would work.=C2 I suppose they will say that they have 300 M users, not *all• of the= will be lying... and one can sort the liars from the non-=iars....but so what? best wishes bob <=iv> On Sep 5, 2015, at 8:20 AM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> =rote: noam, as always , spend=ng time . was great/ first draft. of the Cho=sky Challenge. . Produce a non- living syste= that can be put into an environment for a while and =AO --- 1. be able to discriminate language from n=ise.. prize . a 1 dollar bill signed by Noa= and 100k. . 2. be able to discriminate =AO coherent sentences from non ( we provide 10 test sen=ences ). prize a 10 dollar signed Chomsky bill ,=C2 and 500k. 3. a language learning module. 20 dollar=bill signed and 1 million, 4. a sense making module that can underst=nd meaning inference. . etc. the non recommendation =AO recommendation. . i= the student has a nice family. etc. a 100 dollar sign=d bill and 10 million dollars. ? If your left leaning, is=in conflict with a money prize, we could substitute ---your prize money goes to charity,- =C2 airline tickets to the Gaza strip. - Nicaragua, North Korea, .=and 1000 blank ,protest placards ? or top prize includes =1000 protesters of your choice for three demonstrations :) =C2 please note The information co=tained in this communication is confidential, may be attorney-client pr=vileged, may constitute inside information, and is intended only for JEE Unauthorized use= disclosure or copying of this communication or any part thereof is str=ctly prohibited and may be unlawful. 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