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From: Joichi Ito Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 2:35 PM To: Jeffrey Epstein Subject: Re: Direct Germans Can I call you from the car in 1 hr? > On Jun 6, 2015, at 10:31 AM, Jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote: > 212 772 9416 > On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Joichi Ito < > wrote: > I again feel like maybe I need to study math. I only know enough to =escribe non-messy things. How do I start? > On Jun 6, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Jeffrey E. <[email protected]> =rote: > > > math is a notation that tries to describe messiness. the more =olistic. shape. mouthiness. is a more elegant way of descrining =ertain concepts and mouthiness for a characteristic of food ( temp =hewiness. tastes ) > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Joichi Ito wrote: > Turns out membrane proteins are also amazing molecules for color =A6 colors of light change their geometry which our nerves can sense. =t's interesting how color goes from light -> molecular geometry =hange -> electrical energy in neuron -> shapes in visual cortex -> =hapes in our brain. > > » Sorry, I'm still at the wrong scale, but... > > > > The math part is interesting. How do you think neurons and biology =ap onto our brain? Brains seem pretty messy compared to math. > > » - Joi > > > > On Jun 6, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Jeffrey E. <[email protected]> =rote: >> > > » ive had a lot of back and forth with chomsky . the description =f some of these things that category theory helps frame is really =eautiful. . coherence, is a pretty and contiguous shape, =ymmetries. make it both simple and complex. . taking the donut and =wisting it into a know changes its topology and mathematics. Im =fraid I can begin to make the case for feng shui, . doesn't make me =appy but it can be organized into a symphony of light modulated inputs. =. ( I know its sounds a but woo woo. but it has serious math behind =t. >> > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Joichi Ito wrote: > > Maybe this is too microscopic, but Ed's work on =round-truthing science - the physics behind the biology and =huguang's work in understanding membrane proteins will probably =elp us understand cellular communication including the use of proteins =nd possibly other forces like magnetics and electrical and more crazy =hings. >> > > » I was remember the picture you had about the cells communicating =s an model of "pricing" of "value". The =hing is that the cells communicate and transact using proteins that =nteract with cells via membrane proteins. We have only discovered 500 =embrane proteins so far and the human genomes encodes for 8000 of which =e only have discovered 20. I'm not positive, but I think =nderstanding these membrane proteins will unlock a bunch of really =nteresting EFTA_R1_01625488 EFTA02499233 networks of communication both in the brain and between =uman beings that we don't understand yet. Shughuang has part of =he key, which is a way to identify these non-water soluble proteins =sing what is called a QTY conversion. Not sure if you're =nterested, but when we meet next, I should sit down and explain it to =ou if you don't already know. It's pretty fascinating. =n addition to figuring out how cells signal and how the networks of =roteins in our body work / environment work, this also unlocks many of =he secrets to smells. >> > > > I din't know this but it turns out that we have 5-10 =ifferent > > membrane proteins per "odorant" that detects =ittle parts of the > > bigger odorant molecule and they do this very fast. =ach membrane > > protein senses part of the structure and they create an > » =eurological signal based on this pattern and we figure out the > » smell =A6 >> > > » And the company we invested in, O2H is called O2H because the key =o understanding membrane proteins is to make the non-water-soluable =embrane proteins, water-soluable by converting the certain amino acids =hich retains the structure but changes the solubility so O2H is sort of =E2 water reversed". O2H has all of the commercialization =ights to this field of study. >> > > > But... more broadly... >> > > > there is one sort of random "sense"... it =urns out that we have a cluster of nerves in our optic nerve that only =ense blue light that sets our circadian. That's why they say =lue light affects mood and jet lag. These nerves have nothing to do =ith the nerves that we "see" with. >> > > » We know for a fact that magnetics and electrical signals affect =he brain so I'm sure we can "sense" these. >> > > » Have you heard of people who put super-magnets in their fingers to =ense metal? >> > > » =ttp://io9.com/what-you-need-to-know-about-getting-magnetic-finger > > -imp-813=37993 > > > > > Tenzin would probably have some good thoughts on this. >> > > > I also have a very smart guy who is trying to convince me that =his works: >> > > > > http://tinyurl.com/qfoafft > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/nv8thk6 > > > > » - Joi >> > > > > On Jun 6, 2015, at 8:49 AM, Jeffrey E. <[email protected]> =rote: >> > > > > my question , for today is how many senses to we really have.? = what are their ranges. do we sense infrared. without awareness. . =torm brewing etc. > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Joi Ito rote: > > » I remember Martin asking me some question a out w y sians =on't say answer things directly. >> >> > > » Here's sort of an answer to the opposite question. :-) >> >> > > > > » =ttp://www.quora.com/Why-are-Germans-so-nosey/answer/Yves-Gra 2 EFTA_R1_01625489 EFTA02499234 > > > > » nger >>» »» -Joi >>» >>» >>» >>»— >> » please note > > > > The information contained in this communication is confidential, > > » may be attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside > > » information, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. >> » It is the property of JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure or > > » copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly > > > > prohibited and may be unlawful. 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