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From: "I To: Paul Cassell <cassellp@law.utah.edu>, Jackie Perczek <JPerczek@royblack.com> Cc: 11( >, "Brad Edwards Subject: RE: Position on Motion to Treat MTD as Equivalent to Jurisdictional Question Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 18:14:16 +0000 Importance: Normal Paul, The government is not a party to this appeal. We take no position on either motion. Thank you. From: Paul race ill [mailto:cassellpelaw.utah.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 2:11 PM To: Jackie Perczek Cc: Brad Edwards (brad@pathtojustice.com) Subject: RE: Position on Motion to Treat MTD as Equivalent to Jurisdictional Question Dexter — What is the Government's view on all this? Brad Edwards and Paul Cassell for lane Doe No. 1 and Jane Doe No. 2 Paul G. Cassell Ronald N. Boyce Presidential Professor of Criminal Law Paul , „— CONFIDENTIAL: This electronic message - along with any/all attachments - is confidential. This message is intended only for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not use, disseminate, distribute or copy this communication. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply electronic mail and delete the original message. Professor Cassell is admitted to the Utah State Bar, but not the bars of other states. Thank you. From: Jackie Perczek [mailto:JPerczekeroybladccom] Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 11:56 AM To: Paul Cassell Cc: imarienter(illif ilefermorimMerimemOrmitar* Brad Edwards (bradepathtojustice.com) Subject: RE: Position on Motion to Treat MTD as Equivalent to Jurisdictional Question Paul, the problem with the alternative that you propose is that the jurisdictional issue and the merits issues overlap. You argue as to jurisdiction that Perlman does not apply because there is no privilege. And our argument on the merits is that there is a privilege. So privilege is at the heart of the jurisdictional question you raise, and at the heart of the merits. They cannot be separated. The Court needs to look at our merits arguments on privilege to determine the jurisdiction issue. For this reason, we believe that the Court should address both issues without bifurcation. From: Paul Cassell mailtotassellp@law.utah.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 11:20 AM To: Jackie Perczek EFTA00209322 Cc USAFLS); Brad Edwards (brad@pathtojustice.com) Subject: RE: Position on Motion to Treat MTD as Equivalent to Jurisdictional Question Hi Jackie, Thanks for getting back to us so quickly. We have always appreciated your collegiality on these issues as well (and we know that your firm has quite an effective team put together). We've been wondering about the need for the filing of our brief while a contested (and, in our view, meritorious) jurisdictional issue is before the Court. In looking more carefully at the CA11 Local Rules, we notice that under the Rule 31-21(d), if the Court were to issue a jurisdictional question, that would stay the time for filing our brief for 30 days until the Court rules on jurisdiction. What would your position be if we restyled our motion along the lines of — Motion to Treat Victims' Motion to Dismiss and Subsequent Briefing as Equivalent to Issuance of a Jursidictional Question For Purposes of Briefing Schedule — i.e., our brief would not be due until 30 days after a court ruling on jurisdiction. That way, your brief would still be in and counted — does that resolve your concern? And Dexter, what is your position on all this? (Or can you provide the name and e-mail of the attorney handling the appellate issues?) I'm assuming that the Government does not want to have a brief due while the jurisdictional issue is pending. Brad Edwards and Paul Cassell for lane Doe No. 1 and Jane Doe No. 2 Paul G. Cassell Ronald N. Boyce Presidential Professor of Criminal Law I. g •... z n. You can access my publications on http://ssrn.com/author=30160 CONFIDENTIAL: This electronic message - along with any/all attachments is confidential. This message is intended only for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not use, disseminate, distribute or copy this communication. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply electronic mail and delete the original message. Professor Cassell is admitted to the Utah State Bar, but not the bars of other states. Thank you. From: Jackie Peraek [mailto:JPerczek@royblack.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 8:03 AM To: Paul Cassell Cc: Brad Edwards (brad@pathtojustice.com) Subject: Re: Position on Motion for Expedited Ruling on Motion to Dismiss He actually takes very good care of me! The truth is that you've always been very prompt and cordial with me and I wanted to do the same for you. I know this is important to you so I wanted you to know we were looking at it and would respond quickly. Here's our position, please would you quote it in both of your papers: We object to the Court considering the motion for a stay and the motion to dismiss without also considering the merits of the appeal. We filed our merits brief early, two weeks before it was due, to facilitate the court's consideration of the substantive issues in an expedited basis. We do not object to the court ordering expedited briefing on the remaining briefs (response brief and reply brief) and an expedited oral argument schedule. --Jackie On Aug 6, 2013, at 8:52 AM, "Paul Cassell" <cassellp_@law.utah.edu> wrote: Hi Jackie -- Thanks! (And I hope Roy is paying you double overtime for answering case-related emails at 1 AM in the morning!). Paul Paul G. Cassell Ronald N. Boyce Presidential Professor of Criminal Law S.J. Quinney College of Law at the University of Utah EFTA00209323 332 S. 1400 E. , Room 101 Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0730 (801) 585-5202 (phone) (801) 581-6897 (fax) cassellp@law.utah.edu You can arresc my publications on http://ssm.com/author=30160 CONFIDENTIAL: This electronic message - along with any/all attachments - is confidential. This message is intended only for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not use, disseminate, distribute or copy this communication. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply electronic mail and delete the original message. Professor Cassell is admitted to the Utah State Bar, but not the bars of other states. Thank you. From: Jackie Perczek [Perczek@royblack.00m] Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 11:08 PM To: Paul Cassell Cc: , , Brad Edwards (brad@pathtojustice.com) Subject: Re: Position on Motion for Expedited Ruling on Motion to Dismiss Hi Paul. I will have an answer for you tomorrow morning. --Jackie On Aug 5, 2013, at 6:43 PM, "Paul Cassell" <cassellp@law.utah.edu> wrote: Hi all, Thanks in advance for promptly providing your position on the attached motion we are working on . Brad Edwards and Paul Cassell for Jane Doe No. 1 and Jane Doe No. 2 Paul G. Cassell Ronald N. Boyce Presidential Professor of Criminal Law Y P P. u 1.1 31.1 1.1 CONFIDENTIAL: This electronic message - along with any/all attachments - is confidential. This message is intended only for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not use, disseminate, distribute or copy this communication. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply electronic mail and delete the original message. Professor Cassell is admitted to the Utah State Bar, but not the bars of other states. Thank you. <motion-expedited-ntling-on MTD.doc> EFTA00209324