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From: Misha Gromov < > To: "jeffrey E." <jeevacation®gmail.com> Subject: Re: Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 15:27:14 +0000 plagiarizing Einstein who called time and space "persistent illusions" and regarding his theory of relativity as an attempt of making them mathematically real. On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 11:19:35 -0400, jeffrey E. wrote: you are begining to sound like an indian guru instead of a russian jew On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Misha Gromov c wrote: The latter, by definition, equals the former On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 11:11:46 -0400, jeffrey E. wrote: does ok mean purport with the illusions of others or some type of deep reflection of an underlying reality On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Misha Gromov •,= > wrote: Ergobrain generates ideas/illusions of the "world" some are OK and some are not On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 11:04:46 -0400, jeffrey E. wrote: persistent illusion? consiousness required. not sure what you mean by illusion On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Misha Gromov < > wrote: Math in biology may be a persistent illusion. Such an illusion may generate something dynamically non-trivial,e.g. physical science or something essentially static such as philosophy or religion. On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 10:38:19 -0400, jeffrey E. wrote: understood. . however what i like is the concept of pressure . says nothing at all about any one molecule , but useful information re the statistical . I wonder if people are more like the individual molecule and only looking statistical overview may give some info. the term social being, means part of a group. . left isolated the indiv cannot thrive. the study of groups of individuals , actuarial tables etc. seems useful. but only at the boundary s certainty or zero. does it say anything meaningful about any single person. EFTA00693468 On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Misha Gromov c wrote: mechanism -- something as sophisticated as Watt's pressure regulator on Sun, 31 Jul 2016 10:21:09 -0400, jeffrey E. wrote: the word mechanism gives me pause, - it relates so much to the industrial revolution where evrything and e can be thought of as a machine. the concept of hope. for example . or even the idea of" concepts". in gei not appear to me to lend themselves to mechanics. . is probability a " mechanism " . ? On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Misha Gromov c wrote: On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 09:19:31 -0400, jeffrey E. wrote: yes , or in paris if i come earlier. what are you working on? do you think there is any fundamental why biology has not opened its mysteries to mathematics? Possibly, he consistency of the failures of the attempts of making conceptual math-biology points tows interesting psycological mechanism generating the strive to achieve it. On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Misha Gromov c wrote: in NY? On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 08:57:03 -0400, jeffrey E. wrote: if one looks at probabilty distributions. it could appear that the curve is a result of being acted on by force. pushing agents towards the center. the activity of change more along the curve ( membrane ) moves up the other down so the distribution remains the same? At harvard last week i hosted a group discussing deception. . the cost benefit. . camaflouge. misinfor disimformation. etc , the feelign was that the role of your ergo could be the system designed to read workings of your predator or your prey. . instilling false signals , is a cheap protection. anyway hope to see you soon On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 8:28 AM, Misha Gromov c wrote: Remind me of a scientist who staged up his death in order to find something nice about himself in tl On Sat, 30 Jul 2016 11:42:37 -0400, jeffrey E. wrote: do i have to look in the obituaries to make sure you are not there? :) EFTA00693469 please note The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside information, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. It is the property of JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. 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