DS9 Document EFTA00748806

From: on behalf of Ben Goertzel <an To: Jeffrey Epstein <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Next steps? Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 04:30:10 +0000 I believe you're swamped! ... and I don't take it personally, thanks. But, I persist in thinking *nothing* in the human domain is more important than creating greater-than-human intelligence ... so that my not-so-humble proposal is worthy of your attention even though you have a full plate ;-) thx ben On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Jeffrey Epstein <[email protected]> wrote: > i will try„ do not take it personaly i am swamped > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Ben Goertzel < wrote: >> >> Hi Jeffrey, >> >> I'm starting to feel like a stalker! ... making contact with you is >> being particularly difficult. >> >> I'm a bit perplexed, as in our earlier discussions I really felt you >> "got" the vision and importance of what I'm trying to do. It's >> unfortunate if you've been put off by the critiques of folks like >> Schank and Minsky, whose AI ideas were discredited decades ago! I'd >> be happy to debate AI specifics with either of those guys (or anyone >> else), but first they'd have to be convinced to actually take the time >> to understand what I'm proposing rather than making a snap judgment >> based on shallow surface-level indicators and their (rather heavy) >> prior biases. (I wish you could have been at the AGI-09 conference, >> where a bunch of researchers were seriously discussing my project >> among others. Not that everyone saw eye-to-eye with me about what is >> the best approach to take, but at least there were real discussions on >> the issues relevant to making a design like mine truly work.) >> >> Membrane computing is certainly very cool, and I'm sure a lot of the >> other stuff you're funding is also. But my project has a genuine >> chance of leading to a breakthrough in the next 2-4 years, and a >> human-level AI in 7-10 years. I know I'm a bit eccentric, but I'm not >> **insane** ... I have a load of relevant knowledge and I deeply, >> sincerely believe I'm onto something here. >> >> Even if you think I have only a 5% chance of success, the payoff is so >> large, it should surely be worth the investment!! (Yes, I understand >> you might have 100 guys pestering you with comparable projects that >> you also think have 5% chances of success. But, do you really? I >> don't see many AI projects out there with **any** realistic chance of » leading to dramatic results in the near term. I see plenty of cool >> ideas, but no other coherent artificial-mind design fleshed out in >> nearly as much detail as my stuff) >> >> Anyway, I'd appreciate the chance to talk again ... I can keep phoning >> at random but it would be more effective if you would tell me a » specific time to call (or visit ;-). >> >> Thanks! >> Ben EFTA00748806 >> >> >> >> >> Ben Goertzel, PhD >> CEO, Novamente LLC and Biomind LLC >> Director of Research, SIAI >> >> >> Critical threshold: Being generally intelligent enough to be >> disappointed by one's own lack of general intelligence > > Ben Goertzel, PhD CEO, Novamente LLC and Biomind LLC Director of Research, SIAI Critical threshold: Being generally intelligent enough to be disappointed by one's own lack of general intelligence EFTA00748807