From: Ben Goertzel

From: Ben Goertzel To: "jeffrey E." <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:09:06 +0000 Attachments: Goertzel Harrigan Bach Black_Foundation_Proposal_2014.pdf BTW to ease your potential re-reading, here is a re-send of the proposal Joscha and I made for you last year ;) --ben On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 1:01 AM, jeffrey E. [email protected]> wrote: > yes IU would like to be put in touch, yes i will re read . gino is still > an unlknown > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Ben Goertzel <a wrote: >> » Hi Jeffrey, >> Good to hear from you! >> BTW -- We have not yet been able to install our software on your >> Virgin Islands server as requested, because the sys-admin there, >> Jermaine, has not yet opened a port in the router there to let us >> access the machine remotely. I wonder if he doesn't know how to do >> that? (but it's a very basic thing...).... Anyhow we have emailed and » asked him to do this several times... >> >> I like the idea of a machine that can ask questions...! Actually the >> logic of questions is dual to the logic of answers, see >> http://www.gatsby.ucl.ac.uk/aistats/fullpapersl246.pdf >> Making OpenCog ask questions to fill in gaps in its knowledge is one >> of our current priorities, in fact.... >> I'm glad to hear you have decided to fund Joscha for another year. He >> is really enjoying his time in Boston and getting a lot out of the >> various contacts he's making there. I wonder if you'd like to >> reconsider funding the proposal Joscha and I sent you some months ago, >> for work on intelligent/simply-conscious virtual animals? Or did >> that happen not to float your boat? We have discussed many other >> possibilities for collaboration, e.g. application of OpenCog +MicroPsi >> to mathematical theorem-proving (via grounding mathematics in embodied >> experience, along the lines that Lakoff and Nunez discussed in "Where » Mathematics Comes From") >> >> Gino Yu told me he met you recently. He's a fun guy who helped me >> get started here in Hong Kong. His wife's family is very wealthy and >> influential here (though his wife, while head of the Hong Kong Chamber >> of Commerce, got busted for insider trading and spent 1.5 years in EFTA00854305 >> jail here... really a bummer for Gino's kids... but anyway she's been >> out a while now and is back in business...) » >> As for Rupert Sheldrake, yes I know him.... He's not a super-close » friend but I visited his house in London in 2012, and have emailed » with him a few times since then. Also he had a paper in a book on psi » that I co-edited last year, see >> >> » or see >> http://goertzel.org/Evidence_for Psi_PREPRINT.pdf » for a free digital copy ... the password is >> dataWillPrevail >> >> >> Rupert has found various private funders for his experiments in the >> past, but I'm sure he would be happy to have more funding for more >> experiments. >> If you're in an especially open-minded mood, you might enjoy my >> speculative thoughts on a potential physics foundation for Rupert's >> morphic field idea, see >> >> http://multiverseaccordingtoben.blogspot.h1c/2014/09/morphic-fields-memory-psi-unified.html >> Shall I put you in touch with Rupert by email? >> I would be interested to try to figure out an experiment that would >> probe the quantitative nature and "laws" of putative morphic fields >> more precisely. I think his idea is deep and fascinating, yet too >> slippery for my taste.... His email and telephone telepathy >> experiments are fascinating and I think could be developed to give >> further information. For instance, he finds that this sort of >> telepathy typically takes places between members of groups who share >> social or emotional bonds. So, I wonder if this could be quantified. >> If we measure social and emotional bonds using psychosocial survey >> instruments, can we then use this information to probabilistically >> predict the degree of email or telephone telepathy? This could tell » us something about the information-theoretic nature of the patterns >> that "morphic fields" (whatever they really are) pay attention to.... >> Of course, he may have even better ideas for new experiments.... » Yours, » Ben EFTA00854306 >> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:47 AM, jeffrey E. [email protected]> wrote: >> > hi, I have begun funding some Al to the minus one.. answers are not as >> > interesting as great questions. i want a machine that can ask >» quesitons.? >> > In my scouting I saw you supported rupert sheldrakes right to speak. >» have >> > you met him. Id like to fund something . if controls adequate » > » > -- >» please note >> > The information contained in this communication is >> > confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may >> > constitute inside information, and is intended only for >» the use of the addressee. It is the property of >» JEE >> > Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this >> > communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited >> > and may be unlawful. If you have received this >>> communication in error, please notify us immediately by >> > return e-mail or by e-mail to [email protected], and >> > destroy this communication and all copies thereof, >> > including all attachments. copyright -all rights reserved » -- » Ben Goertzel, PhD » http://goertzel.org >> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one >> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all >> progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw > -- > please note > The information contained in this communication is > confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may > constitute inside information, and is intended only for > the use of the addressee. It is the property of > JEE > Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this > communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited > and may be unlawful. If you have received this > communication in error, please notify us immediately by EFTA00854307 > return e-mail or by e-mail to [email protected], and > destroy this communication and all copies thereof, > including all attachments. copyright -all rights reserved Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw EFTA00854308