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Rabbi Shmuley Boteach on Rwanda and Syria (INTERVIEW)
SEPTEMBER 23, 2013 12:53 AM
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The fighting in Syria, as seen from Israel.
Photo: Tsuri Cohen-Arai) Tazpit News Agency.
JNS.org -Known as
"America's rabbi,"
Shmuley Boteach has lived
an unconventional life for
an Orthodox rabbi—from
running for the U.S.
Congress, to authoring
several bestselling books,
to hosting TV shows, to
serving as a spiritual guide
to Michael Jackson.
Through it all, Boteach has
been outspoken about the issues he is passionate about.
The latest issue Boteach has prioritized is raising awareness about genocide.
As the 20th anniversary of the genocide in Rwanda approaches next spring,
and while the world grapples with its response to Syrian President Bashar al-
Assad's use of chemical weapons, Boteach organized and will moderate a
Sept. 29 panel in New York City featuring high-profile guests and experts on
genocide, including Rwandan President Paul ICagame, noted Holocaust
survivor and human rights activist Elie Wiesel, and Jewish philanthropists
Sheldon Adelson and Michael Steinhardt.
Boteach spoke to We nig about his upcoming event, Judaism's teachings on
genocide, the Rwandan genocide, the situation in Syria, and how the
international community can prevent genocide in the future.
JNS.org: What does Judaism have to say about genocide?
Rabbi Shmuley Boteach: "The responsibility to protect (an international
concept that became a United Nations initiative which says that nations have
a responsibility in preventing human rights crimes such as genocide) is
something I have worked on with U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Samantha
Power, and it also has biblical origins. In Leviticus 19:16 it says: 'Do not
stand idly by while your neighbor bleeds.' This gives us [Jews] a moral
responsibility to act. It obligates us to intervene when we see the rights of the
oppressed or the downtrodden, violated."
What did you experience on your two trips to Rwanda. and how did the
experience shape your views?
"Profoundly, first of all, to see a country come back from the brink like that is
amazing. Just twenty years ago people were hacking each other to death in
the streets with machetes. Now they have one of the fastest growing
economies in the world. They no longer speak in terms of whether you are
Hutu or Tutsi, they say they are all Rwandans now. It is amazing.
"Visiting the areas where genocide took place such as the Ntarama church,
where 5,000 people were massacred inside, made me, I apologize for this,
vomit. It was the most gruesome and horrible thing I have ever seen.
"See the Rwandans have a different way of commemorating the dead [than
the Jewish people]. For example if you visit Auschwitz, you don't really see
bodies or ashes anywhere, because in Judaism, we must bury the remains as
quickly as possible. In Rwanda, you can see still the skulls and bones from
the massacres everywhere."
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How does the situation in Syria compare, from a Jewish perspective, to the former genocides
in Rwanda and Darfur, and ultimately, to the Holocaust? Do you consider the situation in
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"Whenever poison gas is used, it is a trigger for genocide. We saw its use in World War I that led
to mass causalities that triggered the Geneva protocols (which made it illegal to use chemical
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weapons). Again, in World War II, it was used by the Nazis during the Holocaust, and by Saddam
Hussein in Iraq. I find it very personally difficult to convey how disappointed I am that [Syrian
President Basher] al-Assad will not be punished for gassing children. Once you gas children, you
no longer deserve to be a leader; you deserve to be in jail."
Does the fact that Syria is in a civil war, between sides that are both perceived as enemies of
Israel, change the Jewish thought-process or moral compass on getting involved?
"This is a very good question, one that was asked by many of my congregants during Yom
Kippur. While they are valid concerns, I cannot accept any scenario where Jewish or Israeli
interests can be fundamentally at odds with basic human rights. We describe ourselves as a light
unto nations. How can we as a light unto nations, say it doesn't care about the gassing of
children? Every Arab child is God's child; indeed, every child is god's child. We cannot turn a
blind eye to that. I believe that Israel's security interests will always be served by its moral
interests first."
What practical steps can be taken to prevent future genocide?
"What is lacking is a United Nations that is moral. It was founded during World War II to prevent
these types of wars. Why hasn't Assad been condemned as a war criminal?
"Two answers: Russia and China. They have veto power on the Security Council and can subvert
the whole process. The U.N. has become a joke, because dictators can control the whole
organization."
What messages do you hope win come out of your upcoming panel discussion on genocide?
"My objective to fill the glaring whole concerning genocide discussion and awareness, I want to
show that the world does gives a damn about genocide. We want to demonstrate that genocide
prevention is vital of interest of people. We are bringing together the two biggest names on the
subject: Rwandan President Paul Kagame, who instrumental in ending the Rwandan genocide and
Elie Wiesel, who is the living embodiment of the six million lost in the Holocaust. It is a very
historic event that I hope will raise awareness of genocide.
"Genocide: Do the Strong Have a Responsibility to Protect the Weak?" is scheduled for Sunday.
Sept. 29. 6:30p.m., at the Great Hall at Cooper Union in New York City.
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