From: Lawrence Krauss

From: Lawrence Krauss To: "Jeffrey E." <[email protected]> Subject: Re: final version Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2018 23:04:25 +0000 Thanks. Lawrence M. Krauss Professor School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department Arizona State Universi P.O. Box 871404 Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 Research Office: Assistant (Jessica): Origins Office Cynthia): oLigins.asusedu I I krauss.facultv.asu.cdu Sent from my iPhone On Aug 5, 2018, at 3:51 PM, Jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote: lawrence after all this, do you need to waste everyones time ? it shoudl give you pause that no one agrees with sending it. after you spent your time and energy focuse on it . and making yourself seem sillly or sillier. decide a stratgy, pick some goals. choose tactics. I am engaged in an appeal process. until its complete I will have ntohing to say. . your lucy arg is a loser. you are not believed. ! so the facts are problematic. the universtiy disregarded the photo bomb. THAT is as a result of Justin laying out your hand. it makes them appear reasonable. . case saying no to campus without permission . VERY bad.. very . makes no difference if they invited you back . as that would still be with permission. .. your appeal has zero chance. given the hostility. NEGOIATION. . same mantra for the past 4 months. . they need to have something to lose. money time., ?? On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 6:30 PM, Lawrence Krauss < > wrote: 1 pm eastern tomorrow is fine. Thanks for your advice. Lawrence M. Krauss Professor School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department Arizona State Universi P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 Research Office: Assistant (Jessica): Origins Office Cynthia): origins.asu.edu I I krauss.facultv.asu.edu EFTA01006558 Sent from my iPhone On Aug 5, 2018, at 3:24 PM, Lawrence Krauss < > wrote: Justin's thoughts. Lawrence M. Krauss Professor School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department Arizona State Universit P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 Research Office: Assistant (Jessica): Origins Office Cynthia): origins.asu.edu I I krauss.faculty.asu.edu J Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: Justin Dillon Date: August 5, 2018 at 2:11:01 PM PDT To: Lawrence Krauss Cc: Courtney Forrest Subject: Re: final version Lawrence, While I can understand how emotionally satisfying this must have been to write, given how awfully you've been treated by ASU so far, if you send it out, you're done. Period. You will have no hope of winning at ASU, because everyone who reads this isn't going to think you're falsely accused. They're just going to think you're an asshole. This thing is just too dense and too angry. It will read to other people as borderline unhinged, because no one understands what it's like to actually go through this process. They don't know what it does to people. Again, I understand where you're coming from, and I'm happy to think about how we might want to incorporate some of this into your defense. But if you send it now, you are only going to throw gas on the fire and make things worse. You will flat-out ruin your chances of any vindication during the internal process. I promise you that. It is, quite simply, suicide. You should show this to Nancy, Jeffrey, and anyone else you trust. I cannot imagine that anyone will think this is a good idea. Maybe when you're completely done with the process, you can issue something like this. But not right now. If you want to issue a statement, it should be along the lines of what I sent you last week—a few sentences max, stating your innocence and your intent to be fully vindicated by the appeal process. I've pasted below a story involving another professor-client of mine, which includes what we did for him. EFTA01006559 Let me know what time you'd like to talk tomorrow. Given the time change, do you want to say 1 Eastern? Justin Justin Dillon KaiserDillon PLLC 1401 K Street NW Suite 600 Washin ton, DC 20005 On Aug 5, 2018, at 2:31 PM, Lawrence Krauss < > wrote: <nameredacted.docx> please note The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside information, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. It is the property of JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by e-mail to [email protected], and destroy this communication and all copies thereof, including all attachments. copyright -all rights reserved EFTA01006560