From: Lawrence Krauss

From: Lawrence Krauss To: J <[email protected]> Subject: Fwd: State press quote from ASU spokesman - codes on hearings. Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 00:47:21 +0000 Begin forwarded message: From: Nancy M Dahl Subject: Re: State press quote from ASU spokesman - codes on hearings. Date: October 21, 2018 at 7:45:32 PM CDT To: Lawrence Krauss https://provostasu.eduipolicies/procedures/p20 No mention of hearing as part of investigation, only after discipline/termination as per ASU codes. Your description is accurate. Theirs is misleading. Just ticking boxes as disputes arise. On Oct 21, 2018, at 5:38 PM, Lawrence Krauss wrote: Well. it is semantics.. They say, "Well, yes, you get a letter of dismissal from Michael Crow before this happens, but you aren't really dismissed until the whole thing ends". My point is that a letter of dismissal from the President is being dismissed.. whether one can appeal it before it becomes effective is irrelevant. This is very different from a recommendation from a Dean for dismissal, because only the President can do it. The state press gets it. p.s. Dont forget I land in about an hour.. :) On Oct 21, 2018, at 7:35 PM, Nancy M Dahl wrote: I don't think the following statement from an ASU spokesman is accurate. . "It does provide an opportunity for the person against whom allegations are made to have a hearing at which they can present witnesses and evidence in their own defense and cross-examine adverse witnesses. Should he have chosen to move forward with the review process, this would have taken place before any final decisions were made regarding dismissal." Lawrence M. Krauss Professor School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department Arizona State University, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287.1404 Research Office: Assistant (Jessica): twitter.con EFTA01018919 Lawrence M. Krauss Professor School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department Arizona State University, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 Research Office: 480.965.6378 I Assistant (Jessica): 480.965.9825 twitter.com EFTA01018920