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not there are missing logs, have you --
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A. That's not been something I've focused on.
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I was only looking at whether or not, within the
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Q. Do you know who
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out to for sex by Jeffrey Epstein?
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MR. INDYKE: Objection based upon
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attorney-client privilege, work product.
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A. No, I can tell you outside of the
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privileged information. I can tell you outside of
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the privilege. I can tell you outside of the
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privilege that she has claimed to have had sex on
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numerous occasions with Leslie Wexner, and was told
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by — by Sigrid McCawley that --
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MS. McCAWLEY: I'm going to object to the
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line of questioning.
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because if we're going to violate the privilege
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BY MR. EDWARDS:
Q. I just want the names of the individuals.
A. I can't just give you that. I can tell
you that --
Q. That's what Pm asking for.
SPECIAL MASTER POZZUOLI: Hang on one
second. The question is: Do you know who
was lent out to for sex by
Jeffrey Epstein?
MR. EDWARDS: Right. The names of the
individuals is all Tm looking for.
SPECIAL MASTER POZZUOLI: There's an
objection. Okay. Go ahead.
A. I was told by John Zeiger, who was Leslie
Wexner's lawyer, that Sigrid McCawley claims that
her client,
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sex with Leslie Wexner on numerous occasions,
including one -- and she said this, according to
Mr. Zeiger, very aggressively --
MS. McCAWLEY: This is revealing
confidential settlement discussions.
A. Between who?
MS. McCAWLEY: Between -- I'm not going to
reveal what confidential settlement discussions
because that breaches a privilege.
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MS. McCAWLEY: Fm going to stop that
right now because the only conversations I've
had with you are in the context of settlement
discussion in this case.
A. It was not a conversation with Sigrid
McCawley. And please let me answer the question. I
had a conversation —
BY MR. EDWARDS:
Q. Just so we know what the question is, my
question is --
A. The question is do I know whether she had
sex --
Q. No, its not.
MR. SCOTT: Let's just ask the question.
SPECIAL MASTER POZZUOLI: Hang on. And,
court reporter, please reread the question so
we understand.
COURT REPORTER: "Do you know who
was lent out to for sex by Jeffrey
Epstein?"
A. And the answer —
MR. SIMPSON: Darren had an objection for
you.
A. Okay. I understand the instruction, and I
can answer the question.
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there to be testimony as to that. To the
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they are not present at this deposition at this
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moment who you are mentioning, John Zeiger,
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disregard the instruction that came from
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