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From: "jeffrey E." <[email protected]> To: Laity Visoski Subject: Re: Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 03:26:29+0000 Wine-Images: imagel.jpeg; image3.jpeg; image2.jpeg im looking for something that dumps overboard On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Larry Visoski wrote: Jeffrey Great email description of coffin corner,. weight and altitude vs performance., Below Are comments from Cyrus supervisor al PBI Gulfstream: -Both left and right (cockpit and cabin) packs can feed the cabin silencer through some interconnect valves. -Air data computer will only have effect on auto-throttles, aileron trim and elevator trim (if autopilot is engaged). Enough autopilot input from drastic course change may lift a little flight spoiler but the plane would be banking rather aggressively from that input. So no direct spoiler control. -If you turn the right pack or right bleed air off in flight there is a cross-over duct and check valve that will open and allow the left airlpack to supply air to both cockpit and cabin. The ADC does allow the turbine bypass valve on both ACM's to open but that's al 42k feet -The left and right pack inlet valves go into high flow mode from 25 pounds per min to 26.5 PPM at 13k feet -They jump again to 28 PPM to the packs at 23k feet -So the ACM turbine bypass valves and the pack inlet valves are both altitude controlled but only the turbine bypass valve gets it altitude position from the ADC. The other has a built in aniroid on the side of the valve and senses the atmospheric pressure in the boiler mom in flight. 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However, even though you are slowing down you engines arc burning less and less fuel, part of this is from the decreased IAS. but part is from the cold air. Colder air gives greater charge weight, it can be compressed more and the engines get greater thermodynamic efficiency. Eventually you reach the lowest clean IAS for your current weight. and that's as high as you am going. It doesn't make any difference how much power you EFTA01195249 could add, you still can't climb because to do so you would need to slow down or break up, and to slow down you'd have to start deploying high lift devices which increase drag and reduce efficiency. This is what's called the coffin corner, your engines are probably running near max power. you arc near or at max speed and you arc just above the stall. please note The information contained in this communication is confidential. may be attorney-client privileged. may constitute inside information, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. 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