Court transcript fragment mentions credibility hearing in a sexual abuse/trafficking case possibly involving Maxwell

10 id. 12 13 14 L5 16 ne) 18 life) 20 21 22 23 24 25 H3VOGIU1 THE COURT: It has to do with credibility. MS. McCAWLEY: Well, your Honor, I would say, you're inclined to think that that has -- THE look. I don COURT: Well, I'm no genius. any -- but you know, that is precisely what the defense going to say. MS. McCAWLEY: Right. I understand, your Honor. if “te G@laai is And that's why we sought to depose him because it's inherently unfair -—— 7 THE COURT: Okay. So you would say I made MS. McCAWLEY: I think it No, your Honor. excluded, and in my view, I think it's not relevant issue at trial here. But they are, of course, going to that it is and that they want to bring that in. In, fact, a mistake. should be to the argue Like why I said, they've got lined up Mr. -- THE COURT: Well, on the question of credibility, isn't it relevant? MS. McCAWLEY: Because the statement so this case is about whether or not she was sexually abused and trafficked -- THE that's where I started out. COURT: Now, about that? If that is your position, that's something If it's a question about her sexual abuse, in addition to, Is it else. then that's something else. But you just said it isn't abou it's just about Maxwell and did she tell the truth abou SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 E that, HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_011312