Deposition excerpt questioning Alan Dershowitz and [REDACTED - Survivor]' alleged flight logs and criminal accusations

00:57:22 00:57:22 00:57:22 00:57:23 00:57:23 00:57:25 00:57:25 On Oa hb wWHN = 00:57:27 © 00:87:27 oos731 10 oos7as 11 00:57:40 12 00:57:43 13 00:57:43 14 oos7as 15 00:57:48 16 costa 17 00:57:48 18 cos7so 19 00:57:52 20 oos7s3 21 00:57:56 22 008759 23 00:58:04 24 oo:se06 25 00:58:09 00:58:09 00:58:10 00:58:12 00:58:12 00:58:34 00:58:34 AN OO kh WN = 00:58:34 <o] 00:58:33 00:58:33 10 oosesa 14 oosess 12 ooseas 13 oosa3e 14 oosese 15 oose42 16 ooseaa 17 ooseaa 18 cosa? 19 oo:s8:50 20 ooses1 21 005854 22 005857 23 00:93:03 24 co:se08 25 15 of 46 sheets 208 A. I was thinking of that as well. BY MR. SIMPSON: Q. Let me -- A. Iwasn't -- Q. Let me -- A. -- following their answer. Q. Let me -- let me just ask a different question, A. Sure. Thanks. Q. You testified that you have -- at some length, about why you question the accuracy of the flight logs, correct? A. Correct. Q. But I may be redundant, but you don't question that what they show on their face supports Professor Dershowitz's testimony -- MS. McCAWLEY: Objection. BY MR. SIMPSON: Q.__-- that he was not on a plane with Virginia Roberts? A. The -- you know, the -- the sex trafficking ring run by Jeffrey Epstein has produced Epstein flight logs that appear to show that -- that Dershowitz and [REDACTED] are not on the plane, so... Q. So the answer to my question is, yes? ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS (954) 331-4400 MR. SCAROLA: I'm sorry. THE WITNESS: Which question now? MR. SIMPSON: The question you just -- could you read back my -- my question and the answer? BY MR, SIMPSON: Q. Let me ask it again. . Okay. » That's fine. I mean, I thought I was -- MR. SCAROLA: There's no question pending. THE WITNESS: I'm sorry. BY MR. SIMPSON: Q. What were you about to say? A. Iwas about to say that the records that they produced ~-- I'm -- I'm sorry... Q. The records -- the records that were produced -- A. On-- on their face, I cannot give youa flight log that has [REDACTED] and Alan Dershowitz sitting next to each other, yes. Q. And you also -- you also testified a moment ago that Professor Dershowitz in his testimony in the last couple of days, had testified that [REDACTED] had been arrested for stealing cash; do you refer -- do you recall that? ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS (954) 331-4400 00:59:08 00:59:10 00:59:14 00:59:16 00:59:47 60:59:20 00:58:23 ONO ah WN = 00:89:24 oos927 «9 ooso31 10 ooso:34 11 oos40 12 ooseas 13 oosea7 14 oo-so-4a 15 00:59:49 16 oose:s2 17 00:59:55 18 00:59:58 19 or:00.01 20 or0003 21 oror04 22 or0007 23 01:00:14 24 ovo013 25 04:00:14 01:00:16 04:00:17 01:00:18 01:00:20 04:00:21 01:00:21 On oO ah WN 01:00:23 © 01:00:25 or:00:27 10 oroo23 14 or0032 12 ors 13 otoo3s 14 ovooar 15 evooae 16 ovo 17 orooas 18 or0048 19 or0049 20 overs: 24 or00ss 22 or00ss 23 orooss 24 01:01:00 25 Page 208 to 211 of 335 210 A. LIrecall his testimony to that effect, yes. Q. And you testified that no support for that had been produced in discovery; is that correct? A. That's my understanding, yes. Q. Isn't it true that in Mr. Alessi's deposition, he describes that under oath and says that it happened? A. Idon't have a recollection of criminal charges having been discussed in the Alessi deposition. Q. Is it -- well, let me -- let me ask you: Is it your testimony that you understood that, in fact, Miss Roberts had been accused of stealing money from her employer? MS. McCAWLEY: I'm going to object to the extent it gets into any conversations that you had with Virginia on any of these issues. THE WITNESS: Yeah, I'm trying to -- if your question is about the Alessi depo, I don't -- don't immediately recall him discussing -~- discussing them. BY MR. SIMPSON: Q. If lrepresent to you that Mr. Alessi, in his deposition, referred to a police report and an arrest of Miss Roberts, do you have any reason to question that? MR, SCAROLA: Could we -- could we pull out ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS (954) 331-4400 211 the deposition? And if you have got a reference in the deposition, let's take a look at it. MR, SIMPSON: I'm just asking for his recollection right now. The document will speak for itself. But I want to -- MR. SCAROLA: Yes, it will. MR. SIMPSON: He -- he made a very serious accusation. I would like to get an answer to my question. Does he recall whether, in that deposition that all the parties in this case have, Mr. Alessi said under oath, that she had been arrested and charged with stealing from her employer. THE WITNESS: When you -- the question built in a serious accusation, the -- the -- the -- the statement I was making is that we had propounded an interrogatory to Mr. Dershowitz saying: What's the basis for your assertion that Miss Roberts had a criminal record? And that answer didn't refer to an Alessi depo. If it -- this is one of the problems that I'm having. When -- when -- you know, when you come into a deposition, both sides are supposed to turn everything over, And then if I get a question about, well, what if -~ you know, we're relying ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS (954) 331-4400 10/20/2015 01:08:15 PM HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_010855