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Leary and Liddy debate anecdote with no actionable claims

Date
November 11, 2025
Source
House Oversight
Reference
House Oversight #015306
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1
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Summary

The passage is a colorful recollection of a 1982 debate between Timothy Leary and G. Gordon Liddy with no concrete leads, names beyond the two participants, no financial or misconduct allegations, and Mentions a 1982 debate in Berkeley between Leary and Liddy. Contains personal insults and a humorous offer involving a rat and hashish. No references to current officials, agencies, or financial tran

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sixteen years after the original arrest, Leary would end up traveling around with Liddy in a series of debates? | attended the debate in Berkeley in April 1982. Leary warned the audience that Liddy was a lawyer-- “trained in the adversary process, not to seek truth. | was trained as a scientist--looking for truth, delighted to be proved wrong.” He confessed that “Liddy is the Moriarty to my Sherlock Holmes--the adversary | always wanted--he is the Darth Vader to my Mr. Spock.” “As long as it's not Doctor Spock,” said Liddy. He argued that “the rights of the state transcend those of the individual.” Not that he was without compassion. “I feel sorry,” he admitted, “for anybody who uses drugs for aphrodisiacal purposes.” “Gordon doesn't know anything about drugs,” countered Leary. “It's probably his only weakness.” He looked directly at Liddy. “It's my duty to turn you on,” he said, “and I'm gonna do it before these debates are over.” Then he made a unique offer: “I'll eat a rat if you'll eat a hashish cookie.” Liddy turned down the offer--one can carry machismo only so far, and he had to draw the line somewhere--but he did provide appropriate grist for my own stand-up comedy mill. According to Liddy's book, he

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