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Deposition excerpt raises questions about Alan Dershowitz's representation of Jeffrey Epstein and alleged code‑word references to sexual abuse

The transcript includes a lawyer questioning whether a reference to a "massage" in a police report could be a code for sexual abuse of a minor, and it directly links high‑profile attorney Alan Dershow Witness discusses reviewing portions of a Palm Beach police report related to Epstein. Question posed whether a "massage" reference is a coded indication of sexual abuse. Attorney ethics and duty to

Date
November 11, 2025
Source
House Oversight
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House Oversight #010857
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2
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The transcript includes a lawyer questioning whether a reference to a "massage" in a police report could be a code for sexual abuse of a minor, and it directly links high‑profile attorney Alan Dershow Witness discusses reviewing portions of a Palm Beach police report related to Epstein. Question posed whether a "massage" reference is a coded indication of sexual abuse. Attorney ethics and duty to

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jeffrey-epsteincode-wordslegal-ethicsforeign-influencesexual-abusepolice-reportalan-dershowitzdepositionmoderate-importancehouse-oversightdocument-reviewsexual-misconduct

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Portions of it, yes. think I've gone through it page by page. Q. When did you do that? report here with -- I don't know if I can... anything. 216 218 Q. In fact, I think you testified yesterday ovtore 1 MS. McCAWLEY: The location is fine. about your duty with respect to Miss Roberts along those ovia20 2 THE WITNESS: The location, once on922 38 personaily -- once here in Florida, and then in oii925 4 my office in -- while in Salt Lake City. Q. And so with respect to Professor Dershowitz's ovte28 § BY MR. SIMPSON: representation of Jeffrey Epstein, he would have been ovis2. §=§ Q. And are you able to place in time when you acting unethically if he didn't attempt to negotiate the orie22 YF reviewed these portions of the police report, other than best resolution for his client that he could, consistent o19:35 8 before December 30th of 2014? oria37 9 A. Not precisely, no. A. Right. Consistent with the law, yes. orts40 10 Q. And do I understand correctly from your extea2 11° testimony yesterday that that police report is one of A. I'msorry. Let me just -- consistent with o1ie47 12 the things you relied on to support making the the law and with the ethical obligations of attorneys. oi9s1 13 allegations against Professor Dershowitz that are ovtas4 14 included in the joinder motion? representations when they are negotiating those kinds of | o11956 15 A. That's right. ortoss 16 Q. It's also true, is it not, that that police Q. Right. The duty as a defense counsel, 012001 17 report includes an interview with an adult woman who was Professor Dershowitz's duty was to attempt to obtain the 012007 18 retained to provide massages at Jeffrey Epstein's best resolution he could for Jeffrey Epstein consistent or2011 19 residence for guests, among others; isn't that correct? or201 20 A. I believe that's correct. orzore 21 Q. And based on that, is it your testimony that Q. And, in fact, if he had not done that, he 012020 22 it's fair to presume that a reference that a guest got a 012024 23 massage is a code word for abusing a minor sexually? o120:31 24 MR. SCAROLA: I'm sorry. Are you -~ are you Q. And would you agree that it would be 012033 25 isolating -- ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS (954) 331-4400 (954) 331-4400 217 219 inappropriate, totally inappropriate, to infer anything 012033 41 MR. SIMPSON: I don't -- I don't wanta 012034 2 speech, Mr. Scarola. If you object to the form, o12036 3 object to the form, and I -- if it's not a proper A. Just the fact of representation alone? or2038 4 question -- or2038 | & MR. SCAROLA: I want a clarification of the A. Yeah, that's right. Sure, of course, orzo3e «6 question, please. Are you isolating only that o12030 «7 piece -- Q. As -- before December 30th of 2014, had you or2039 8 MR. SIMPSON: I -- the question -- or2041 9 MR. SCAROLA: -- of information? or2042 10 MR. SIMPSON: I'm -- Iam asking a question Q. Had you reviewed the entire report? orzoas 14 that's perfectly clear. If you think it's A. I think I reviewed most of it, but I don't orz0s6 12 objectionable, it won't ~~ it will stand. or2049 13 MR. SCAROLA: I'm going to object on the or20s0 14 basis that it is vague and ambiguous. It is A. Well, let's see. Before December 30th, 2014, or20s3 15 unclear whether you're asking for him -- Brad and I filed the case in about July 2008, so it was or2055 16 MR. SIMPSON: Please don't coach the witness. about a six-year period of time, and I remember I'd been | 12056 17 MR. SCAROLA: -- to isolate -- to isolate his to Florida a couple of times on this case, once in 2010 012050 18 focus to that single piece of evidence. and I think another a year or two later. And I 012059 19 MR. SIMPSON: I object on the coaching of the remember, at least on one of those times, reviewing the or2101 20 witness. o1:2101 21 BY MR. SIMPSON: MS. McCAWLEY: Yeah. I wouldn't go into or2t02 22 Q. My questionis: Is it reasonable, otzi06 23 considering that the police report on its face shows THE WITNESS: To the -- right. So we just -- o12111 24 evidence -- let me back this up. Ask another question or2i1e 25 to you. we just want to know -- ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS (954) 331-4400 Page 216 to 219 of 335 ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS (954) 331-4400 10/20/2015 01:08:15 PM

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