Maritza Vasquez Deposition - Discussing Jeffrey Epstein, Jean-Luc Brunel, Donald Trump

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA CASE NO. 08~CIV-80893 MARR/JOHNSON JANE DOE, Plaintiff, VS. JEFFREY EPSTEIN, Defendant. 1263 S.W. 21st Terrace Miami, Florida 33145 Tuesday, June 15, 2010 4:06 p.m. SWORN STATEMENT OF MARITZA VASQUEZ Taken before ELAINE CRANDALL, Registered Professional Reporter and Notary Public in and for the State of Florida at Large, pursuant to Notice of Taking Unsworn Statement in the above cause. U.S. Legal Support (305) 373-8404 2 4 1 APPEARANCES 1 A. In his office. 2 2 Q. Related to what; modeling? 3 FARMER, JAFFE, WEISSING, EDWARDS, FISTOS& = 3 A. Working, yeah. Modeling. 4 By. BRADLEY EDWARDS. ES 4 Q. What, at that point in time, did you 425 North Andrews Avenue, Sui? : know about Jean-Lue Br tunel? 1 5 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301-3268 + an hing At that time I didn’t know 6 ALSO PRESENT: * 7 MICHAEL FISTEN 8 Q. So how did you meet with Jean-Luc Brunel 8 9 in his office in 1998? 9 10 A. Because there was a gentleman from 10 11. Switzerland who wanted to make business with them. ai 12. And I was hired by that gentleman to look through 12 13 all the accounts to make sure that -- you know, 13 14 _ they were kind of in bankruptcy. But he wanted to i4 15 know that his money, his investment, would be i 16 — good. So that’s why I went. Like, an external 7 17 audit to do -- to see what was the income, the 18 18 expenses and something like that. 19 19 Q. Who is the guy from Switzerland? 20 20 A. I'm not going to tell you his name. 21 21 Q. Is that somebody who is still ia touch 22 22 with Jean-Luc Brunel? 23 23 A. No. Not at all. 24 24 Q. What's the reason for net wanting to 28 25 — disclose his name? Does he have anything to do 3 5 1 Thereupon-- 1 with this case? 2 MARITZA VASQUEZ 2 A. No. But I don't have permission. 1 3 was called as a witness by the Plaintiff and, 3 have to ask him. 4 after having been first duly sworn, was examined 4 Q. Okay. And after your meeting with 5 and testified as follows: 5 Jean-Luc Brunel in 1998 -- well, what company was 6 DIRECT EXAMINATION 6 Jean-Luc Brunel with then? 7 BY MR. EDWARDS: 7 A. Karin's Models, it was, at that time. 8 Q. Tell us your name. 8 Q. K-A-R-LN? 9 A. Maritza Vasquez. 9 A. Yes. 10 Q. And just to the get to the point, you 10 Q. And is that the only other modeling 11. know who Jeffrey Epstein is? 11. agency that you have known Jean-Luc Brunel to be 12 A. Yes. 12 associated with, besides MC Squared? 13 Q. And you've met him before? 13 A. Yes. 14 A. Yes. 14 Q. And how long was Jean-Luc with Karin, 15 Q. And you know who Jean-Luc Brunel is? | 15 from 1998 through -- 16 A. Yes. 16 A, No, Jean-Luc was the owner of Karin's. 17 Q. And you have met him before? 17 Before that. I think since 1986, in Paris. 18 A. Yes. 18 Q. Allright. And why was he no longer 19 Q. Which one did you meet first? 19 affiliated with Karin at some point in time? 20 A. Jean-Luc Brunel. 20 A. He closed -- he -- how you say -- he 21 Q. And where did you meet him? 21 + made a dissolution. He dissolved the company. 22 A. In Miami Beach. 22 Q. Were you ever hired to work with Karin? 23 Q. When? 23 A. Iwas hired to work with Karin's, yeah. 24 A. In 1998. 24 Q. When was that? 25 Q. And how? 25 A. In 1998. 2 (Pages 2 to 5) U.S. Legal Support (305) 373-8404 a 6 8 1 Q. What was your position? 1 Epstein owns or controls numerous apartments in 2 A. At that time, bookkeeper. 2 that -- at that same address; is that right? 3 Q. In Miami? 3 A. Yes. Yes. 4 A. Yes. 4 Q. And have you ever been to that address? 5 Q. And how long did you stay as the 5 A. No. 6 bookkeeper in Miami for Karin? 6 Q. And how do you know that he owns or 7 A. Until 2003, when they changed the 7 controls numerous apartments at that address? 8 company to MC Squared. 8 A. Because at that time Evelyn Valenzeula 9 Q. So when did the official change come 9 was the office manager of the new and she was 10 from Karin to MC Squared? 10 — dealing personally with the assistant of Jeffrey 11 A. In 2003. 11. Epstein. And she had to do the payments for the 12 Q. And when is the first time you met 12 cable and, I believe, electricity. 13 Jeffrey Epstein? 13 Q. And Evelyn -- who was the assistant of 14 A. Imet Jeffrey Epstein only once in my 14 — Jeffrey Epstein that Evelyn was dealing with? 15 life. And I believe it was in 2003. Two is A. [don't know. 16 thousand -- yeah, by the end of 2003, 2004. 16 Q. Cecilia Stein? 17 Q. Where? 17 A. [believe so. 18 A. In New York. 18 Q. Do you remember that name? 19 Q. What was the occasion? 19 A. Yes. 20 A. It was the open party for MC Squared. 20 Q. That's somebody who no longer lives 21 Q. Where was that held? 21 here, right? 22 A. Ina discotheque in Manhattan. 22 A. 1--I believe I heard that, yeah. 23 Q. What discotheque? 23 Q. Who did you hear that from? 24 A. I don't know. I don't remember. 24 A. From Evelyn, from Conetta (phonetic), 25 Q. And did you meet Elaine Maxwell? 25 from -- 7 9 1 A. I don’t know her name. But he was 1 Q. Okay. And at some point in time you 2 with -- with a woman. I don’t know. 2 came to know that the models were also staying in 3 Q. And what is yor understanding or what 3. these apartments at 301 East 66th Street, right? 4 was your understanding that Jeffrey -- in terms of 4 A. I don't know specifically they stay at 5 Jeffrey Epstein's involvement with MC Squared? 5 Jean-Luc's apartment. But I know that the models 6 A. Jean-Luc always said that Jeffrey was 6 were staying in different apartments that belong 7 his friend, that he is a millionaire. And that 7 to Jeffrey Epstein. 8 Jeffrey was giving him the money to -- you know, 8 Q. And what are the names of the models 9 loans or whatever -- and the apartments for the 9 that were staying there, that you remember? 10 girls and things like that. 10 A. Most of them. You know, at that time, il Q. Albright. Let's break that down. ii when I was there who -- all the little girls. 12 Giving money for what purpose? For furthering MC; 12 Mohini ~ 13 Squared? 13 Q. How do you spell that? 14 A. For -- for -- yeah, the money came to MC 14 A. M-O-H-I-N-L I-- you know, that was in 15 Squared, not to -- I don't know. Prior to 2003, I 15 2000-something. I don't recall all the names. 16 don't know if Jeffrey Epstein ever gave him money. 16 But there is a list that you can get it from the 17 I know that from the longest Jean-Luc was living 17 office in New York. 18 in an apartment that belongs to Jefirey Epstein. 18 Q. A list -- 19 Q. What apartment is that? 19 A. They have a list of models that they 20 A. It's in New York. I don't know the 20 were staying in those apartments. 21 address. 21 Q. If] were to request it from the office 22 Q. Is that at 301 East 66th Street? 22 in New York, what would I ask for? 23 A. Yeah, something like that. I think it’s 23 A. For the models' apartment list. 24 that one. 24 Chargeback for models apartments. 25 Q. And it’s my understanding that Jeffrey 25 Q. Chargeback? 3 (Pages 6 to 9) U.S. Legal Support (305) 373-8404 10 12 1 A. Yeah, because Jeffrey Epstein never i A. No, I don't know. 2. charged Jean-Luc for rent but Jean-Luc was 2 Q. So in addition to his financial 3 charging rent to the girls. And in her statements 3 guarantor on the Line of Credit of a million 4 it shows 301, 66 Apartment A, or Apartment B. And 4 dollars, what other involvement are you aware of 5 he was charging them, like, a thousand dollars a 5 that Jeffrey Epstein had with MC Squared and/or 6 month. 6 the apartments at 301 East 66th Street where the 7 Q. How do you know that? 7 models lived? 8 A. Because I was doing the statements. 8 A. They were planning on buying or 9 Q. You were actually the one doing the 9 associating with a girl in -- in France for a -- 10 statements? 10 foracompany. They were planning to doa il A. Not all the time. I was in New York 11 company. And, actually, 1 gave the paper to -- to 12 © starting 2003. 12 9 Mr. Shawn Connolly, which is an actual paper that 13 Q. Through what date? You were in New York: 13 came from the office from Jeffrey Epstein, that he 14 from 2003 to -- 14 was giving instructions to Jean-Luc saying that he 15 A. 2006. 15 wanted to have the same contracts as -- uh, what's 16 Q. And while you were in New York you were 16 his name, of Donald Trump, and that he wanted to 17° working for MC Squared? 17 have the same kind of benefits for the scouters. 18 A. Yes. 18 So he was giving instructions to 19 Q. And what is the proof that you have seen 19 Jean-Luc on what to do, what to -- there is a 20 that Jeffrey Epstein was a partner or financial 20 woman in Paris, I don't recall her name, Frelit 21 supporter of MC Squared? 21 (phonetic), I believe it was, and they were -- 22 A. Iwas the one who took the papers to 22 they were, the three of them, trying to do a new 23 Mellon Bank. 23 company. But then everything was, like, on zero. 24 Q. That's in Miami? 24 They never -- they never did it together. 25 A. Yes. And Swetpaul (phonetic) -- I was 25 Q. And de you know why? il 13 1 talking at the time to Rich -- I believe his name L A. No. 2 was Rich Gany. That was one of the other 2 Q. Would you know the lady's name in Paris 3 assistants of Jeffrey Epstein. 3 ifl-- 4 Q. Gany, G-A-N-Y¥? 4 A. Ifyou give it to me, yeah. Ifyou give 5 A. Yeah. 5 me the name, I can recall. 6 Q. Do they call him Eric Gany? 6 Q. Okay. While I'm looking for that, how 7 A. That is him name, yeah, Eric Gany. 7 many girls that were models were living in the 8 That's his name. I recall some things, not all 8 apartments at any given time at 301 East 66th 9 the time. I recall that Mr. Epstein didn't want 9 Street? 10 to sign the papers, but Mellon Bank didn’t want to 10 A. That's -- that's not only one apartment. 11. accept the Line of Credit if he didn’t sign. So 11 There are a lot of apartments there. There is not 12 we had to return the papers to New York so he 12 only one girl. There is not only one apartment. 13 actually signed the documents. 13 believe there were, like, two or three 14 Q. And what was he actually signing, that 14 apartments. And they were put in between four 15 youremember? Signing over as a Line of Credit) 15 girls per apartment, | believe. 16 ore 16 Q. How many apartments? 17 A. Asa line -- as the grantor of the Line 17 A. [believe there were, like, two or 18 of Credit. Because the Line of Credit came from 18 three. 19 J. P. Morgan directly, but he was the grantor. He 19 Q. And there is four girls per apartment? 20 was the one who actually was responsible. 20 A. Yeah. 21 Q. And how much was the Line of Credit? 21 Q. And you know that because you saw the 22 A. A million dollars, it was, at that time. 22 documentation at MC Squared that showed where _ 23 Q. And did you ever keep track of whether 23 these girls were living? 24 — or not that line was extended or any additional 24 A. Yes. 25 monies were given to MC Squared? 25 Q. Did you also have something to do with 4 (Pages 10 to 13) U.S. Legal Support (305) 373-8404 14 16 1 the visas that were prepared for the girls that 1 A. No. 2 were working? 2 Q. Have you ever met her? 3 A. Yes. I was providing the names to the 3 A. No. 4 attorney. His name is Luis Font. He was doing 4 Q. Have you ever met Sarah Kellen 5 _ the visas here in Miami. There was another -- 5 (phonetic)? 6 Valenzuela was handling directly the visas in New 6 A. No. 7 York, And only when she had problems, she hired 7 Q. You have only met Jeffrey Epstein once 8 another attorney. I don't know the name of the 8 in person. How many times have you talked to him 9 attorney in New York. But Luis Font is the -- 9 onthe phone? 10 was, at that time, the attorney handling the visas 10 A. Maybe once. ii for Miami. ii Q. At some point in time you drove several 12 Q. Do you remember doing the visa for Nadia) 12 girls or a number of girls over to Jeffrey 13. Marcinkova? 13. Epstein's house; correct? 14 A. No, that was done in New York by Eve 14 A. Not me. Jean-Luc directly took them. I 15 Valenzuela. 15 was making the arrangements to get a limousine or 16 Q. And Nadia's visa, that you specifically 16 acar. And Jean-Luc himself was driving the girls 17 remember being dene, right? 17 to his house because he was having a party and 18 A. Yeah, [ remember that. Because at one 18 there were supposed to be girls. 19 point, 1 believe, one of the renovations of her 19 Q. Which girls did he drive over there? 20 _ visa, something happened. And Mr. Epstein called 20 A. One time I know he went with Mohini, 21 the office while I was there and was really upset. 21 with -- uh, what's her name? Four girls from 22. And he spoke with Jean-Luc and they -- they were 22 Brazil, from the same agency. Mohini is one of 23 _ really nasty with Eve and, you know, it wasn't 23 them because | remember her name. The other 24 ~— if-- it wasn't Eve's fault. It was their fault 24 — ones -- maybe if you -- 25 because they gave the wrong information, But, you | 25 Q. Elena Weber? 15 17 1 know, she was only an employee and that's it. 1 A. No. 2 Q. How did Nadia Marcinkova come into the 2 Q. Juliana Barbosa? 3. country? 3 A. No. 4 A. By a model's visa, | believe. 4 Q. Do you know those two girls? 5 Q. And was she brought in specifically by 5 A. Yes. 6 Jeffrey Epstein or Jean-Luc or do you remember? 6 Q. And were those girls somehow involved 7 A. Mr. Epstein was paying for the visas. 7 with Jean-Luc or the modeling agency? 8 But, you know, all the visas were done through -- 8 A. Yes. 9 through Karin's or MC Squared. I believe she came 9 Q. They were both MC Squared models? 10 with Karin's visa first, then everything 10 A. Yes. 11 transferred to MC Square. And I believe those ail Q. And at the time, when they began, how 12 visas were paid directly by Mr. Epstein. 12 old were they; do you remember? 13 Q. How old was Nadia Marcinkova when she 13 A. Lbelieve Molina was, like, 14, 15. And 14 first came? 14 — Juliana was 13, 14, when she came. 15 A. I don't know. I wasn't in New York at 15 Q. Okay. And do you know where they are 16 that time. Because I know she came prior to me 16 now, either one of them? 17 getting involved in New York. 17 A. [know Juliana is in New York. 18 Q. And you were involved in New York in 18 Q. When is the last time you talked to her? 19 2003? 19 A. In 2006. 20 A. Yes. 20 Q. How do you know she is in New York? 21 Q. So she came in some time before that? 21 A. Because I saw her pictures whenever. I 22 A. [believe so. 22 believe she's in New York. I don't know if she 23 Q. But even back in 2003, she still 1 23 — really is in New York but I believe. 24 don't know how old she is now. She's probably 24! 24 Q. Elena Weber? 25 or 25, right; do you know? 25 A, Elena, the last time I saw her was in 5 (Pages 14 to 17) U.S. Legal Support (305) 373-8404 18 20 1 2006, too. And, specifically, I don't know where 1 A. Theard that. I heard that. I don't 2 sheis. But if she’s in the United States, I 2 know, because I never met -- I never -- T was 3 believe she's in New York. If not, she is in 3 never, like, around him or nothing like that. I'm 4 Brazil or in Paris. 4 — just telling you what I heard, But regarding 5 Q. Allright. Do you know this person in 5 Jean-Luc, I know -- I know he has that kind of 6 Brazil, Cacha or Cache? C-A-C-H-A or C-A-C-H-E. 6 problem, no? 7 A. No. 7 Q. And as long as you knew Jean-Luc, he 8 Q. Here is a document that we obtained 8 always had a cocaine problem? 9 related to information from Jeffrey Epstein's 9 A, Yes. 10 computer system. It says Massage Paris. It's in 10 Q. What about Jeff Fuller? 11 asquare there and it continues to the next page. il A. Uknow he had a cocaine problem, too. 12 Teli me if you recognize any of those names. 12 He was one time on the Internet, you know, like, a 13 A. No. Lakita -- Lila is one of the girls 13 report on that. 14 that went with Mohini, now that I'm seeing kind of 14 Q. And is Jeff Fuller somebody else who you 15 names. Lila is one of the other ones. If this is 15 also knew to have been associated sexually with 16 — Lelita or Lakita, something like that, it's a 16 underage girls? 17 black girl that I believe she was -- she was not 17 A. Jeff, | -- you know, I don’t think Jeff. 18 — underage but she was going out with one of 18 Talways thought Jeff was gay. For me, he's gay. 19 Jeffrey's best friends. 19 You know, that's the impression that Ihave. But 20 Q. Who is that? 20 I don't think so. 2i A. [believe -- 21 Q. Did you find out that Jeffrey Epstein 22 Q. Who is Jeffrey's best friend that she 22 and/or Jean-Luc Brunel were involved in these 23 was going out with? 23 underage girls that were staying in these 24 A. Idon't know. I don't know. Lakita, 24 apartments at 301 East 66th Street? 25 — something like that, is her name. 25 A. [really don't know that. You know, I 19 . 21 1 Q. Allright. What information do you have 1 cannot tell you. I know there were girls staying 2 about Jean-Luc being involved with underage girls 2 there. [never knew if they were going there or 3 at any point in time? And by that I mean being 3 not. 4 involved sexually with underage girls. 4 Q. You mean, you knew that the girls were 5 A. One day he told me that he wishes he can 5 staying there; 13, 14, 15? 6 sleep with one of those girls that was underage. 6 A. Some of the girls were underage, yeah. 7 And I told him that's a minor, whatever. And 7 Q. As well as 13, 14 or so? 8 then -- hold on, that's my son. 8 A. Thirteen or 14, yeah. 9 (Telephone interruption.) 9 Q. Did you ever ask any of the girls if 10 A. He had a problem, you know. I cannot 10 they were sexually involved with Jean-Luc and/or 11. say I saw them, look, because I would be lying. lL Jeffrey Epstein? 12. And I'm not going to say any lie. But the only 12 A. No, One time there was a problem with 13 thing that I can tell you that what I saw about 13 Juliana. And she was -- I believe she was 14 Jean-Luc is that Jean-Luc is a drug addict, a 14 14 years old. And she tried to go -- or they took 15 cocaine addict. 15 her to a discotheque in Miami Beach. And when [ 16 Q. Atsome point in time you actually saw 16 went to work the day after, they told me that the 17 evidence of that, right? 17 police was asking. So since she was doing 18 A. Yes. 18 whatever she wanted, you know, I brought her to my 19 Q. Imean, him using cocaine that somebody 19 house and I said, you're not going out at night; 20 does every day? 20 you're only 13, 14, and that's my responsibility. 21 A. Yeah, He's an addict. He's used to 21 Q. Do you know Sergio Cordero? 22 — drugs, as well as, you know -- I know Mr. Epstein 22 A. Yes. 23 doesn't take any alcohol, drugs. I know that. I 23 Q. And do you know what Sergio’s role was 24 heard that. 24 in getting girls or something for Jeffrey Epstein? 25 Q. How do you know? 25 A. Yeah. That -- that is something that 6 (Pages 18 to 21) U.S. Legal Support (305) 373-8404 22 24 1 Sergio, you know, comment with me. And he said 1 with Fulanita (phonetic), and we knew Fulanita was 2 that when Jeffrey Epstein went to Ecuador, 2 only 18 years old. She is a young girl. So 3 Jean-Luc told me that he has to bring girls and 3 that's the kind of girl he likes. You know what I 4 this and that, because Jeffrey was coming to 4 mean? 5 Ecuador. So they did such a big thing. 5 Q. But there is nothing illegal going out 6 Q. Right. But in terms of bringing girls, 6 _ with an 18-year-old girl. And that's what I'm 7 specifically girls, that were very young? 7 asking. 8 A. Yeah, but there was girls from Ecuador. 8 A. No. 9 There is nothing you can do there. It's South 9 Q. What information do we have that Jeffrey 10° America. 10 Epstein was involved with underage girls? I mean, 11 Q. Lunderstand that. I'm not saying 11 [have a lot of information of my own. But I'm 12 whether it was legal or illegal. I'm just asking 12 asking what information do you know. 13 you, the direction was that Jean-Luc told 13 A. The only thing | heard in the office, 14 Sergio -- 14 — that Jean-Luc say it, that they like -- when they 15 A. Not to bring girls. Never said -- 15 — say, oh, I wish I could sleep with this girl or 16 never -- Sergio knew that they like young girls. 16 _ the fact that he was taking 15, 16-year-old girls 17 Q. By young, what are we talking about? 17 to his house. 18 A. Eighteen, 19. Sergio -- you know, I 18 Q. Who? 19 know Sergio. And more than anything, like, Sergio | 19 A. Lknow that because I saw him. 20 isa father. And I don’t think he will put his 20 Q. Jean-Luc was taking 15-year-old girls to 21 hands on a ten, 11, 12, 13-year-old girl, You 21 his own place? 22 know what I mean? 22 A. No, to Jeffrey's house. 23 Q. I'm not asking about him. Do youknow | 23 Q. To Jeffrey's house? 24 of Jeffrey Epstein being involved with underage | 24 A. Yes. 25 girls? 25 Q. And what 15-year-old girls was he taking 23 25 1 A. Uheard that, yeah. 1 to Jeffrey's house? 2 Q. You heard that through whom? [don't 2 A. At the time I'm telling you it was Lila, 3. mean just the newspapers and things like that. I 3. Mohini. I don't know remember the other two 4 mean -- 4 — girls, There is two Brazilian girls. I gave it 5 A. No. Through -- through the office. 5 to you before, the names. I don’t remember right 6 Through Jean-Luc. Through -- there were 6 now. 7 conversations of Jean-Luc saying that, you know. 7 Q. Do you know Leslie Groff? 8 Q. Saying what? 8 A. No. 9 A, That Jeffrey likes underage girls. And 9 Q. De you know Khalid Mohammed? 10 never directly but, you know, his conversations 10 A. Yes. 11. were like that. il Q. What did he do? 12 Q. Okay. But, specifically, I just want to 12 A. He was a scouter and a booker. 13. know what evidence that we have, what real 13 Q. Scouter; what does that mean? 14 conversations that you heard, about Jeffrey 14 A. Person looking for models. 15 Epstein liking underage girls. 15 Q. And how legitimate was -- 16 A. I'm telling you Jean-Luc saying it from 16 A. Khalid Salaam. 17 his mouth. 17 Q. Salaam? 18 Q. Okay. And, specifically, he says 18 A. Yeah. 19 Jeffrey Epstein likes underage girls or he likes 19 Q. Right. Where was he bringing models in 20 = 12-year-olds or likes what? 20 from or looking for models? Outside the country 21 A. No, he likes young girls, When they 21 or￾22 were talking in the office, there were a lot of 22 A. Inside the country. Very -- not often 23 people. So they were not stupid. They were 23 from outside the country, no, no. From inside. 24 knowing how to talk. Because they were making, 24 Q. Did you ever hear of any of the parties 25 like, a big thing of, oh, look, he’s going out 25 that took place on Jeffrey Epstein's island? 7 (Pages 22 to 25) U.S. Legal Support (305) 373-8404 26 28 1 A. In-- 1 Q. What did he accuse you of? 2 Q. Little St. James? 2 A. Ofstealing money. And [ had a letter 3 A. One New Year's, I believe -- that was, 3 from Jean-Luc authorizing me to get the money that 4 — like, 2004, 2005, that New Year's -- they were 4 Thad, you know. 5 having a party there. , 5 Q. And did you ultimately have to plead to 6 Q. Who was having a party there? 6 criminal charges because of that? 7 A, Mr. Epstein. 7 A. That was my -- what my attorney told me. 8 Q. And who was at the party that you know? 8 Q. Yeah? 9 A. [know Jean-Luc was there. But then -- 9 A. Yeah. 10 specifically, I don't know if Jean-Luc stay there, 10 Q. So now you're on probation or something? 11 because what I do recall is that, during those il A. Yes. 12 days, there was, like, December 30 or 29, 12 Q. How long does the probation last? 13 something like that, Jean-Luc call me from Puerto 13 A. They did it for 20 years. So I'm just 14 Rico that he was doing the scouting and he -- 14 _ trying to reduce that. 15 actually, he was the one who told me that he had 15 Q. Twenty-year probation? 16 to go to Jeffrey's island because they were having 16 A. Yeah. 17 the party there for New Year's. 17 Q. And other than Jeff Fuller, who else 18 Q. What other girls do you know of that 18 was -- whe else was making these accusations? 19 were at that party? 19 A. Only Jeff. 20 A. I don't know. 20 Q. How about Jean-Luc? 21 Q. Do you know of any of the other people 21 A. [never -- my attorney told me that 22 that were at that party? 22 Jean-Lue was never interviewed, nothing. 23 A. No. 23 Q. Jeffrey Epstein? 24 Q. Just Jean-Luc and Epstein? 24 A. No. 25 A. Yes. 25 Q. Have you talked to Jean-Luc about the 27 29 1 Q. The last time that we talked, I have 1 whole situation? 2 just the investigative report, which basically was 2 A. Ispoke with Jean-Luc on two or three 3 just typed up from the things that you said. It 3 times. I spoke with Jean-Luc, like, two or three 4 was written that Ms. Vasquez advised that she, 4 — times during -- prior to the middle of the 5 herself, submitted the documents to renew Nadia's S process, I did -- and I still have an e-mail that 6 foreign visa on at least two occasions. 6 he send me because he wanted to talk to me, [ 7 A. No, not me. It was Evelyn Valenzeula. 7 ~~ wanted to talk to him. And I never made the time 8 I never did her visa. That visa was done by 8 because Jeff Fuller didn't allow him to talk to 9 Evelyn in New York. 9 me. So we never got to get together to talk. 10 Q. When is the first time that you learned 10 Q. And they prosecuted the case in Federal 11 that Nadia Marcinkova was involved with Jeffrey | 11 Court here in Miami? 12 Epstein? 12 A. Yes. 13 A. [believe in 2007. After I was out of 13 Q. And your entire sentence was probation; 14 the company. 14 _ there was no prison or house arrest? 15 Q. You didn't know, when you were in the 15 A. House arrest one year. That, it was 16 company, that they were involved? 16 done already. And then probation. 17 A, No. 17 Q. The last time, I have a lot of other 18 Q. Allright. At some point in time, did 18 notes about some of the models that were being 19 you get in trouble, criminal trouble, related to 19 brought in and signing visas, as if they were 20 MC Squared? . 20 — going te work here, but really they were living in 21 A. They accuse me in 2006. 21 the apartment and didn't really do any modeling 22 Q. Who accused you? 22 work. 23 A. Jeff. 23 A. Yeah, that is true. That is true. I 24 Q. Jeff Fuller? 24 told you that. Many, many girls were coming here. 25 A. Yes. 25 Many girls were coming here first without a visa, U.S. Legal Support 8 (Pages 26 to 29) % (305) 373-8404 30 32 1 without a working visa. Most of the girls, they 1 balance book or whatever. 2 were coming in to the States as tourists. They 2 I told you the name of the accountant 3 were working -- whenever they work, they were 3 that you could go and took all those papers, you 4 — collecting 30 percent from their income when they 4 know, make a subpoena or whatever, of Richard 5 were not even legal. They didn’t even have a 5 Fernandez, that he could give you all the 6 Social Security or nothing but they never pay it. 6 information, 1998, '99, 2000, after 2005, that he 7 Neither to the government, neither to the girls, 7 did everything and you could see the company was 8 you know. And within the time, I believe Jean-Luc 8 always in red, always. 9 _ start getting pressure from Mr. Epstein that he 9 Q. Se the company wasn't profitable but 10 — didn't want to get in trouble and he put some 10 Jean-Luc falsified documents to show to Jeffrey 11 pressure on Jean-Luc. So he wanted all the girls 11. Epstein? 12 to have a visa. So they start working on the 12 A. Yes. 13 visas of the girls. 13 Q. And have you seen the real documents and 14 Q. Okay. 14 the falsified documents? 15 A. And they were making, like, contracts or 15 A. Yes. 16 _ things like that. Because, prior to that, they 16 Q. So you know that they were falsified? 17 didn't have it. Prior to that, when Jean-Luc -~ 17 A. Yes. 18 prior to Jean-Luc getting the money from 18 Q. Is it your understanding that Jeffrey 19 Mr. Epstein, Jean-Luc was doing whatever he 19 Epstein is still involved, from a financial 20 wanted. 20 aspect, in MC Squared? 21 Q. Okay. 21 A. I believe so. Because, as far as I 22 A. And later, you know, Mr. Epstein put the 22 know, the Line of Credit wasn't paid. The million 23 money that he had to start taking, you know, all 23 dollars wasn't paid. 24 the invoices from Mr. Epstein. 24 Q. And Jean-Luc and Jeffrey Epstein are 25 Q. Does Jeffrey Epstein know that Jean-Luc | 25 still friends? 31 33 1 isa coke addict? 1 _A. Yes, Jean-Luc is still living in 2 A. I don't know. I don't even know that 2 Jeffrey Epstein's apartment in New York. 3 Mr. Epstein knows that Jean-Luc lied to him all 3 Q. How de you know that? 4 the time. Because when he -- when I gave the Line 4 A. Well, because -- because I know. 5 of Credit to Jean-Luc, Jean-Luc presented false 5 Q. From Evelyn? 6 statements to him. You know, Mr. Epstein wanted 6 A. Yes. 7 to see that the company was a profitable company 7 Q. Is Evelyn still working for MC Squared? 8 and we had to hide all those numbers. And we had 8 A. No. 9 to give him, like, positive numbers so he can see 9 Q. Do you know who is working for MC 10 that the company was making money but in belief 10 Squared? 11 always was in red. aL A. It was working until not too long ago a 12 Q. What do you mean by that? Jeffrey 12 very -- Evelyn's goddaughter, Jobelin, she was 13 Epstein said, hey, I'm going to give you money as, 13 working there. 14 Jong as the company is positive? 14 Q. How do you spell it? 15 A. Yeah. Mr. Epstein wanted to see -- I a5 A. J-O-B-E-L-I-N. 16 _ believe -- I believe, since he's a very successful 16 Q. Okay. Anybody else? 17 person moneywise, he was not stupid to put his 17 A. In Europe? 18 money, even though he knew he was able to get 18 Q. Yes, or here. 19 _ girls or whatever, you know, if that was the case. 19 A. No, that was related to Eve? No, 20 But deep inside he wanted to see if these people 20 — Evelyn -- Jobelin. 21 _ really -- if this company was profitable for him 21 Q. Who works in the MC Squared office here? 22 to puta million dollars. 22 A. Here, I knew other things, because 23 So maybe Eric Gany, at the time, was one 23 Amanda Grant and -- I gave you her name more than 24 ofhis advisors. And they wanted to see the 24 onetime. Amanda was working with them until 25 profit and loss statements and, you know, the 25 2008. And she gota lot of information. And she 9 (Pages 30 to 33) U.S. Legal Support (305) 373-8404 34 36 1 wanted -- you know, she call -- | arrange she call 1 A. Yeah, sometimes -- and that’s -- that's 2 Immigration, because they screw her. And, 2 what I can tell you. I know because -- I can tell 3 actually, they made her leave the company because 3 you about Jean-Luc, that 1 know because I met him 4 — she has -- she is a single mother, four kids. And 4 — for ten years. Okay? I can put my hands on fire 5 they were giving her a lot of bad -- bad time. 3 and I can tell you that he did it. About Jean-Luc 6 (Telephone interruption.) 6 Ican say it. I don't know about Mr. Epstein 7 Q. How do you spell her name, Amanda Grand, 7 because I was never -- I met him once in my life. 8 G-R-A-N-D? 8 [saw him once in my life. And after that, when I 9 A. N-T. Amanda Grant. 9 saw him, was in the newspapers; that's it. 10 Q. And do you know her address, phone 10 Q. And, otherwise, you just heard that 11. number; something like that? 11. Jeffrey Epstein likes underage girls? 12 A. Ihave -- you can get it in Facebook. 12 A. Underage girls, yeah. 13. She's in Facebook. Amanda Grant. 13 Q. And there was a time where Sergio -- 14 Q. Do you have it? 14 well, I've talked to Sergio, so I'll talk to him 15 A. Not in this phone. My other phone broke 15 about whatever the Ecuador trip was. 16 soidon't. I can get it for you, if you want. 16 A. Yes. 17 Q. Yeah, I would appreciate it. 17 Q. Allright. Do you know of this company, 18 A. Yeah. 18 COoUuQ-- 19 Amanda had also the information of 19 A. No. 20 monies, as I told you before, that took monies 20 Q. - Foundation. All right. Do you know 21 that they were transferred to the British Virgin 21 of somebody by the name of Gypsy, G-Y-P-S-¥? 22 Islands. 22 A. No. 23 Q. Monies transferred to the British Virgin 23 Q. Somebody who provided Jeffrey Epstein 24 Islands? 24 — girls? 25 A. Yes. 25 A. No. 35 37 i Q. From what account te what? 1 Q. How about Jileta (phonetic)? 2 A. Jean-Luc opened an account there because 2 A. No. 3 Jeffrey told him that it was better to open an 3 Q. Never heard that name? 4 account there. So there was money -- like, for 4 A. No. 5 example, if the monies were going to Manuel Cruz 5 Q. Dana Burns? 6 to do a shoot or something, Jean-Luc was 6 A. I believe I heard that name. But I-- 7 negotiating with the girls and say, okay, if you 7 Q. She works up in New York and I believe 8 go to do the sunny photos, I give you $2,000 cash, 8 she works for Jeffrey Epstein in some capacity. 9 no reports, whatever. 9 Do you know what that is? 10 So Jean-Luc had -- as billing that 10 A. [believe so. No. 11 company from another company, or from the British il Q. Okay. 12 Virgin Islands. So he was neither paying taxes 12 A. The person who can tell you that is Eve. 13 here and maybe he was making $20,000 on that 13 Because Eve was very involved with Jeffrey 14 shooting and he was giving the girl only $2,000 14 — Epstein's office. 15 and that money never came to be reported here. 15 Q. What is Eve's number again? 16 Q. Okay. Other than you saying that you 16 A. (917) 648-6433. 17 know that a 15-year-old or so went to Jean-Luc's 17 Q. Do you know Jojo Fontanella? 18 house with him, how else do we know that Jean-Luc | 18 A. No. 19 — and/or Jeffrey Epstein, I'm more concerned with 19 Q. No? Other than Jean-Luc, what other 20 — Jeffrey Epstein, were involved sexually with 20 people that are friends with Jean-Luc share this 21 underage girls? 21 interest in underage girls, that you know of? 22 A. How do I know? I -1-- I cannot tell 22 A. No. 23 you that I saw -- that I was there because that's 23 Q. Imean, who are his friends? Who are 24 ~ nottrue. I never saw anything. 24 the guys he hangs out with? 25 Q. Right. But sometimes you just know? 25 A. Jeff. When he was in Miami, Jeff, 10 (Pages 34 to 37) U.S. Legal Support (305) 373-8404 38 40 1 Corrado. i A. Yes. 2 Q. Who is Corrado? 2 Q. And they come in the country and they 3 A. A friend of Jean-Luc. An Italian guy. 3. don't have their parents? 4 They were always like that, Corrado and Luc. I 4 A. Yes. 5 met Jean-Luc’s friends in Ecuador, like people 5 Q. So they don't really have any parental 6 that had to be -- people that they were involved 6 supervision while they're here? 7 with modeling agencies in Europe, in South 7 A. Not at all, 8 America, but very different people, very different 8 Q. So the modeling industry is one that 9 people. I met some people from France. Pero, 9 some guys use that to get underage girls and 10 really, even if they were guys or whatever, 10 that's happened for a long time, really, right? 11 gentlemen. You know, like, very proper people. ai A. Yes. 12 Like, from Brazil, too. And the womans, you know. 12 Q. So is that what Jean-Luc Brunel still 13 Q. How about Simon Parra; you know who that; 13 does? 14 is? 14 A. Yes, 15 A. Simon Parra, yeah. a5 Q. Still uses it to get underage girls to 16 Q. How do you know him? 16 sleep with, really, right? 17 A. Imet him through Jean-Luc. 17 A. Yes. 18 Q. And what's his story? 18 Q. And Jeffrey Epstein, too? 19 A. Mr. Parra was a very good friend of the 19 A. Icannot tell you that because I don't 20 office. 1 cannot say of Jean-Luc because he was 20 know. I know if there is -- there is kind of a 21 onlya friend of him. He was a very good friend 21 relationship, I believe they will or he will. You 22 of the office, because Mr. Parra is a gentleman. 22 know, he still does it. But I don’t know. I 23 He was lending money to the office. Whenever I 23 cannot tell you because I was never -- I was 24 — requested, he always gave it to me for the office. 24 never -- what I can say that I know, because I was 25 You know, that I signed -- | had to sign papers 25 with that person for the longest, was with 39 4l 1 for him or whatever, to -- to do the payrolls or 1 Jean-Luc, The same thing that I can tell you, 2 whatever. But Mr. Parra is a guy that he likes to 2 that even if he has a daughter, whatever, | put my 3 be surrounded by girls. But not underage girls. 3. hands on fire that Jeff Fuller is gay. 4 Q. Okay. What was Jeffrey Epstein getting 4 Q. Okay. And Jean-Luc, you saw him use 5 out of MC Squared? . S cocaine at work? 6 A. The only thing that I can think he was 6 A. Not in the office. But sometimes he was 7 getting was the girls. Nothing else. Because he 7 coming to the office, like, with blood coming from 8 has all the money. 8 the nose and white things here, that he had to go, 9 Q. And the company wasn't making money 9 oh, you go and clean yourself or whatever, you 10 anyway? 10 know. il A. No. ii Q. Would he talk about his cocaine 12 Q. And you know the company wasn't making! 12 addiction? 13 money? 13 A. Not directly, but it was a box properly, 14 A. It wasn'tatall. Atall. So the only 14 everyone knew about that. And he was the one -- 15 thing that he was -- I believe that he wanted to 15 the kind of person who didn’t feel ashamed to 16 get involved was because of the girls, that’s it. 16 tell. For example, Sergio was there and I was 17 Pero, he wanted to do it legally, like, girls 17 here and he was there and he was, like, Sergio, go 18 coming here, even if they were underage or 18 and get me the best one, you know. And Sergio was 19 whatever, with visas. 19 — going and getting it for him. 20 Q. Because the modeling industry is one of 20 Q. Se he didn't really hide the fact that 21 those industries where there is a lot of girls 21 he used cocaine? 22 underage coming in the country, right? 22 A. No. No. But not in the office, not in 23 A. Yes. 23 front of the bookers. 24 Q. That's pretty easy access to underage 24 Q. Where is the office in New York? 25 girls? 25 A. Six West 14th Street. Li (Pages 38 to 41) U.S. Legal Support (305) 373-8404 42 44 1 Q. And do you know what Khalid is doing 1 A. Ruth, the other lady in Paris. It's the 2 now? 2 same thing. She will tell you everything. 3 A. No. 3 Jean-Luc came from Paris -- 4 Q. Is he in Miami? 4 Q. How do you spell her name? 5 A. Yes, he's in Miami. 5 A. I don’t know her name. Her last name 1 6 Q. Do you know his number? 6 don't know. Her name is Ruth. R-U-T-H. Like, he 7 A. No, I don't know his number. 7 ~~ came from Paris. Because if he stay in Paris, he 8 Q. How about Mike Sanka? 8 had to pay taxes and this and that. Everything 9 A. Michael Sanka, he's in California. 9 that he was avoiding. 10 Q. What did he do? 10 Q. Who, Jean-Luc? 11 A. He represents -- he represents artists, 11 A. Jean-Luc. 12 players. He is, like, a manager. 12 Q. Do you know hew he and Jeffrey Epstein 13 Q. Did he have any role in procuring 13 became friends? 14 underage girls for anybody? 14 A, No. 15 A. Never. No. Not at all. 15 Q. Or why they became friends? 16 Q. How about Arnaud Brunel? 16 A. No. 17 A. He's Jean-Luc's brother. 17 Q. I mean, other than anderage girls, what 18 Q. Is-he here in Miami? 18 else do those two have in common? 19 A. No. 19 A. That's the only thing, I believe. And 20 Q. Where is he? 20 _ it's very -- you know, like, I saw Mr. Epstein 21 A. France. 21 once in a gym, in a church, very simple. And you 22 Q. Has he ever been here in Miami? 22. see Jean-Luc on the same place and you see 23 A. Yes. 23 Jean-Luc with a -- Prada pants and with a Gucci 24 Q. When is the last time you talked to him? | 24 T-shirt and with Dolce Cabana sunglasses. It's 25 Been a while? 25 like two different characters. 43 45 1 ~A. 2006. No, 2003. 1 Q. And how many girls, at any one time, 2 Q. Okay. Is he close with Jean-Luc? 2 would MC Squared have under them? 3 A. No. Well, he's his brother, you know. 3 A. Alot. Like, over 200, 300. 4 Q. Yeah. 4 Q. Other than the one time where four girls 5 A. There is a blood relation there. But I 5 were taken to Jeffrey Epstein's house — and all 6 can tell you it's, like, oil and water, two 6 four of those girls were underage at the time, 7 ~~ different persons. Two different heads. Two 7 right? 8 different mentalities. 8 A. Yes. 9 Q. Whe are the people -- 9 Q. They were 14 or 15 at the time? 10 A, A gentleman and a beast. Mr. Amaud 10 A. Yeah, 15, 16, 14; something like that. 11. Brunel is a gentleman, a very correct person, very | 11 Q. Other than that time, what other 12 transparent. The other is the opposite. 12 occasion -- jog your memory, think this through — 13 Q. Do you know this guy, Etienne? 13 have you known of Jeffrey Epstein to be in the 14 A. Etienne Rau. He was another partner of 14 same vicinity as any of the models? Was there 15 Jean-Luc, in Karin's. Another gentleman, another | 15 ever a time that Jean-Luc says, hey, Jeffrey 16 real good person. Actually, Jean-Luc screw him 16 Epstein is coming up to New York this weekend, 17 and he took him out from Karin's. He closed 17 we're going to hang out at the apartment or 18 Karin's here in Miami, without Mr. Etienne's 18 = Jeffrey Epstein is this? 19 knowledge. 19 A. No. Never. Jean-Luc never mentioned. 20 Q. And if we talk to Etienne, he would not | 20 his name until 2003, when, actually, Mr. Epstein 21 have nice things to say about Jean-Luc? 21 got involved. To me, you know, to me. Prior to 22 A. No. Not at all. 22 that, one more time, you can talk to Eve. She 23 Q. What about -- 23 knew Jeffrey Epstein prior -- prior to me. 24 A. Ruth. 24 Q. Before you did? 25 Q. Who is that? 25 A. Yes. 12 (Pages 42 to 45) U.S. Legal Support (305) 373-8404 46 48 1 Q. And she has seen him more often than you 1 Jeffrey. She was living in his place. 2 have? 2 Q. Anything else about him that — 3 A. Ofcourse, because she was in New York 3 A. No. 4 all the time. She live in New York and I never 4 Q. Or about her? 5 live there, I was, like, commuting one week in 5 A. No. 6 New York, two weeks in Miami. One week in New 6 Q. Inka Dury? 7 York, two weeks in Miami. 7 A. No. 8 Q. Are you leaving to go to Colombia soon? 8 Q. Any other people that you know that were 9 A. To Peru. 9 living in that apartment at any time? 10 Q. To Pern? 10 A. No. aL A. Yeah. il Q. Other than the people that you named 12 Q. When? 12 already, which are now Cindy Lopez, Juliana 13 A. The 24th. 13 Barbosa, Elena Weber? 14 Q. And do you know when you're going tobe | 14 A. I don't think Elena lived there. Elena 15 back? 15 — was living in one of the models’ apartment that we 16 A. The 28th. 16 rent. Because besides those two apartments, we 1? Q. Allright. Like I said, | would hope 17 rent apartments in New York for the girls. 18 and think that this whole thing -- that your 18 Q. Whe decides whether the girls live in -- 19 involvement is completely done. However, there is! 19 A. Jean-Luc. 20 one case that Jeffrey Epstein has not settled 20 Q. Jean-Luc decides whether the girls live 21 right now that could go to trial. If it went to 21 at 301 that's owned by Jeffrey Epstein or the 22 trial, then we could be called at trial, But it's 22 other apartments that are rented by MC Squared? 23 highly unlikely that is going to happen. I'm just 23 A. Yeah. 24 letting you know there is a possibility. 24 Q. And how does he make that determination? 25 Emmy Taylor, do you know who that is? 25 A. He's the owner. Aly 49 1 A. No. 1 Q. Oh, but, I mean, what are the 2 Q. Claire Hazel? 2 qualifications? I mean, if he likes the girl or 3 A, No. 3 they're underage or they're -- 4 Q. Joelle Pashcow? 4 A. No, if there were, like, good girls, 5 A. No. 5 girls that they could make money, they were living 6 Q. Lynn Fontanella? 6 im an expensive place. If they were, like, 7 A. No. 7 regular girls, they were living in shitty places. 8 Q. Sophie Biddle? 8 Q. Okay. But which one is Jeffrey 9 A. No. 9 Epstein's place? 10 Q. Cindy Lopez? 10 A. Anexpensive place. 11 A. Cindy Lopez, I know -- I didn't mention 11 Q. Okay. So the better models were living 12 her because I didn't remember her name. Nowyou , 12 there? 13 say it, Cindy Lopez was a girl who was working for; 13 A. Yes. 14 Karin's, She was not underage but she was a young; 14 Q. enna you know who that 15 girl. She was working for Karin's. She was 15 is? 16 — studying and she was living at Jeffrey Epstein's 16 A. No. 17 ~~ apartment. She was living at his place. 17 Q. Did you ever meet with Naomi Campbell? 18 Q. And what was her involvement with 18 A. No. 19 Jean-Luc and/or Jeffrey Epstein? 19 Q. Did you know that she was friends with 20 A. She was working at Karin's. 20 Jeffrey Epstein? 21 Q. Okay. Asa model? 21 A. No. 22 A. No. She was a -- an employee. 22 Q. Did you ever meet Leslie Wexner? 23 Q. She traveled on his airplane with him a 23 A. That's the woman that was involved with 24 = jot? 24 Mr. Epstein, no? 25 A. Yeah, because she's a personal friend of 25 Q. No. Leslie Wexner is the owner of 13 (Pages 46 to 49) U.S. Legal Support (305) 373-8404 50 52 1 Victoria's Secret? 1 A. Notreally. Not really. Not really 2 A. No. No. He was a writer. 2 that -- because I would never think that they were 3 Q. No. He's the owner of Victoria's 3 going to a party. And I didn't know Mr. Epstein 4 Seeret, The Limited, Abercrombie. 4 in that scenario, you know. {know Jean-Luc was 5. A. No, No. S crazy or is crazy, but not stupid to be with those 6 Q. Did you ever hear anything about Jeffrey 6 particular girls, because these girls were coming 7 Epstein's relationships, who he was with: Male, 7 from a very good friend of him in Brazil. 8 female, a person's name? 8 Q. Whe is that? 9 A. I knew, because Eve told me that he had 9 A. And he didn't -- I don't remember her 10 arelationship with a woman that her father was 10 name. The mother agent of these four girls. I 11 very wealthy and that's how he started his own 11. gave it to you before. 1 don’t remember her name. 12 money. And ifyou tell me the name, maybe I can 12 It's a black woman. 13 remember. But I don't -- 13 Q. It's not Cache? 14 Q. Ghislaine Maxwell? 14 A. No. What's her name? 15 A. Yes. 15 Q. Because I have that part of the report 16 Q. And her father was Robert Maxwell? 16 right here, stating that Brunel had a connection 17 A. Yes. 17 with a young Brazilian woman but I don't have a 18 Q. Other than that relationship, are you 18 name for that person. 19 aware of any other relationships of Jeffrey 19 A. No. He was having a connection with a 20 Epstein? 20 woman in Brazil that she was giving him 21 A. No. 21 prostitutes when he needed it. 22 Q. How many times are you aware of Jean-Luc; 22 Q. The connection woman in Brazil was 23 bringing underage girls to Jeffrey Epstein's home 23 giving Jean-Luc prostitutes? 24 in Palm Beach? 24 A. Real prostitutes when he needed it. 25 A. While I was there, when I was working 25 Q. How old were these prostitutes? 51 53 1 with them, maybe -- maybe two, three times a year. 1 A. I don't know. I don't know because I 2 The last year; you know, 2003, 2004, 2005. 2 was never in Brazil with him or nothing like that. 3 Q. And how would you know -- 3 Q. In Brazil? 4 A. Not prior to that. 4 A. InBrazil. That was in Brazil. 5 Q. How would you knew that Jean-Luc was 5 Q. Was Jeffrey Epstein involved in these -- 6 taking underage girls to Jeffrey Epstein's house 6 A. Jeffrey Epstein was going to Brazil 7 during those years? 7 because he has one or two clients that they're 8 A. Because he was saying in the office: 8 from there. So they were going, they were meeting 9 There is a party at Jeffrey's house; I'm taking 9 there and everything like that. 10 the girls. And the girls, that they were in town, 10 Q. So you knew of at least occasions where 11 they were, like, underage girls. 11 Jeffrey Epstein and Jean-Luc were in Brazil -- 12 Q. We are still talking about 14, 15? 12 A. Yes. 13 A. Sixteen, yeah. 13 Q. -~ and there was a particular person 14 Q. Sixteen, at the oldest? 14 that would provide prostitutes for them? 15 A. Yes. And they were going, the other 15 A. Yeah, because one time I know because 16 — girls, too, but he -- he personally was taking the 16 Jean-Luc say it to me openly. 17 little ones, Because the other ones, they could 17 Q. What did he say? 18 go in their own cars or whatever, you know, with 18 A. That that woman was giving him, not 19 _ their boyfriends. 19 models; they were prostitutes. 20 Q. Did you ever say anything te him about 20 Q. In my notes it says underage 21 taking underage girls to Jeffrey Epstein's house? | 21 prostitutes. Is that something that -- 22 A. You know, as a mother I always told him 22 A. Yeah, maybe. They were underage girls. 23 that they were underage girls. And he was saying, | 23 Like, 16, 17, 18. 24 — oh, that I'm the father. 24 Q. Ms. Vasquez stated, tell me if you agree 25 Q. But you knew what was going on? 25 with this, that Brunel would have her prepare a 14 (Pages 50 to 53) U.S. Legal Support (305) 373-8404 54 56 1 Hist on a weekly basis that covered changing out 1 Q. The F.B.1. 2 or replacing the girls staying in Epstein's 2 A. Yes. 3 apartment and providing them with living expenses, 3 Q. When was that? 4 as well. And then it goes on, saying that he 4 A. Jn 2008. 5 charged them rent? 5 Q. 2008? 6 A. Yeah, yeah. He was the one who said who 6 A. Yes. 7 stays in what apartment and -- actually, what he 7 Q. And where did you meet with them? 8 said is, like, A, B, C, stays in Jeffrey's 8 A. In my office at the Four Ambassadors. 9 apartment. So that was the order. That's it. So 9 Q. At the Four Ambassadors. That's where 10 the rest, Eve was supposed to put in whatever she 10 Sergio is, too, right? 11. wanted. 11 A. Yeah. 12 Q. The notes indicate that you -- you were 12 Q. So do you still see Sergio? 13 talking about Nadia Marcinkova being a Russian, 13 A. I spoke with him sometimes; once in a 14 14 years old, that lived in Epstein's apartment? 14 while. 15 A. No, [never said that. 15 Q. Did Sergio have to speak with the 16 Q. You weren't there then? 16 EBL, as well? 1? A. No. I never said that. So whoever 17 A. I don't know. 18 wrote that, I was never -- 18 Q. Do you know of anybody else that spoke 19 Q. This is written off typing notes because 19 with the F.B.L. about Jeffrey Epstein? 20 obviously we didn't have a reporter to get it 20 A. Idon't know. I don't think Eva spoke 21 down. So that's why I wanted to get her here so 21 with him -- with them. I don't know. 22 that we know exactly what your story is. It would 22 Q. And what did you tell the F.B.1.? 23 make it easier. 23 A. I told them everything that I -- the 24 A. [heard of that girl, And I remember 24 — same thing that | knew. At that time I even had 25 clearly that it was a problem with her visa. And 25 maybe more information. I gave everything from 55 57 1 that's why she -- | remember there was a -- end of 1 Amanda and everything like that. But the lady -- 2 the year and I was with Eve in New York and she 2 Q. Nesbitt? 3 was, like, really upset because they were, like, 3 A. Yeah, Nesbitt. That was her name. She 4 mistreating her because of that; the fact that 4 was, like -- I told her, you have to go -- go to 5 they were blaming her for the papers, doing it 5 Immigration. I say, go visit over there. And 6 incorrectly. And then Eve told me, you know, that 6 when I call her once she told me: You know what? 7 girl never work, she was never a model. She was 7 [need -- [need fact. I need proof, I need 8 living in his place but she disappear. So she 8 girls. 9 actually never even worked as a model. 9 I say, well, I'm giving you the tools 10 Q. Nadia? 10 ‘that Ihave. There is nothing else that I can -- ii A. Yeah. 11 [cannot create something because I don't create a 12 Q. And that's just something Eve knows 12 story. I tell you what it is. This is the fact. 13 beeause Eve was there? 13. You go and you can use this to also do something 14 A. Yes. 14 — else. But if your point is, you know, minor 15 Q. Allright. Do you know where Eve works 15 accusations, like underage girls being with him in 16 now? 16 _ the bed, I'm not going to say anything because I i7 A. At Hope Community. 17° don'tknow. I wasn't there. I don't know. What 18 Q. What's that? 18 heard, my ears heard, you heard, she heard, 19 A. It's a government organization in New 19 whatever. 20 = York. 20 Q. From Jean-Luc is the only person you 21 Q. Has she spoken with the F.B.L? 21 heard it? 22 A. I don't know. 22 A, Yeah. 23 Q. Have you been contacted by the F.B.1. or 23 Q. Or Evelyn? 24 any government agency related to Jeffrey Epstein? | 24 A. Yes. That's it. 25 A. FB? 25 Q. Who probably heard it from Jean-Luc? 15 (Pages 54 to 57) U.S. Legal Support (305) 373-8404 58 60 1 A. And who probably heard it from Jeffrey's 1 underage girls? 2 office. I don't know. 2 A. At that time, it was Evelyn Valenzuela 3 Q. Okay. But in terms of things that 3 in New York. And whenever she was not able to do 4 happened at Jeffrey Epstein's house or homes 4 it, she hired an attorney. I don’t know the name 5 around the country, you don't know? 5 of the attorney in New York. And in Miami the 6 A. Nothing. We have never been involved 6 person who was doing everything for visas was Luis 7 with that gentleman or his own things. Never. 7 Font. 8 Q. It was only a relationship with 8 Q. Who are the people that -- that are -- 9 Jean-Luc? 9 you know most of Jean-Luc’s friends. Who are the 10 A. For the office. That started 2003. 10 people who dislike Jean-Luc? Who are the people 11 That's when he -- that's when he actually gets 11 we should talk to about they know him, they're 12 — involved, 12 familiar with him, but they're going to tell us -- 13 MR. EDWARDS: All right. I believe 13 A. Talk to Khalid, 14 I'm done. Hold on a second. 14 Q. Khalid? 15 BY MR. EDWARDS: 15 A. Yeah, talk to Khalid. Talk to Amanda. 16 Q. When Jeffrey Epstein was in jail, did 16 Q. You don't know how to track Khalid down 17 you know of Jean-Luc going to see him regularly?; 17 _ right now? 18 A. No. 18 A. Amanda can give you the information of 19 Q. Did you even know that he went to jail? 19 Khalid. 20 A. Yeah. 20 Q. Amanda Grant? 21 Q. I mean, at some point in time, but while 21 A. Yes. And I'm going to give you a 22 he was in jail, did you know for any other reason | 22 letter -- I'll send you an e-mail of Amanda's 23 other than newspapers that he was there? 23 telephone number. | go into my Facebook and | ask 24 A. No. 24 her. 25 Q. Have you ever heard of this guy, Joe 25 Q. Okay. 59 61 1 Pagano (phonetic)? 1 A. And who else? Who else? Talk to Elit. 2 A. No. 2 There is -- there is a lot of people in New York. 3 Q. Larry Vasasky (phonetic), do you knew 3 But you ask Eve. Ask Eve. She can give you the 4 the pilot? 4 names. I don't know the names exactly. I gave 5 A. No. With his personal things, we 5 Conchitaa name. And I thought that this woman 6 never -- as far as I know, me personally, never. 6 was really upset with him. But when she call her, 7 Q. Yeah, no, I'm only asking you about 7 it was, like, the girl was talking too much 8 people who were on flights with Jeffrey Epstein 8 flowers about him. So it's, you know -- 9 and Jean-Luc. So that's why I was thinking that 9 Q. So you never know? 10 maybe Jean-Luc would say who was on that flight.) 10 A. Yeah. You never know. That is true. 11 A. No, because I know one time I know he 11 You never know. Five thousand dollars in Brazil 12 came in his plane and he forgot Gucci pants in his 12. isalotofmoney. You know, you can buy a house. 13 airplane. So we had to go to the airport to pick 13 Q. So you can also buy somebody to be 14 up the pants. But I had to wait outside and 14 — quiet? 15 somebody went inside to pick up the pants. 15 A. Money talks. That's what they doing all 16 Q. Adriana Muchinska (phonetic); do you 16 the time. 17 ~~ know who that is? 1? Q. Do you know of Epstein paying anybody 18 A. No. 18 off during this whole litigation? 19 Q. Was there a Colombian girl, 13 years 19 A. If fknow, I don't know. But I can say 20 old, approximately, being protected by Jean-Luc? | 20 _ that, yes, because if it wasn't Jeffrey Epstein, 21 A. Colombian girl? 21. if it would be Juan Perez, believe me, Juan Perez 22 Q. That's all the information that I have. 22 would be put in jail forever and ever. 23 No? 23 Q. Who? 24 A. No. 24 A. I'm giving you a name. 25 Q. Who else would process the visas for the 25 Q. Oh, right. Right. 16 (Pages 58 to 61) U.S. Legal Support (305) 373-8404 62 64 1 A. Because he’s Jeffrey Epstein and he has 1 But my contract was for three days. That's not my 2 all the money he has, he could shut up everybody. 2 problem. 3 _But if it would have been Juan Perez in the same 3 Q. Who were some of the other people that 4 — situation, Juan Perez would be right now all his 4 you found out later were trying to molest the 5 life in jail. 5 girls? 6 Q. But do you know of any people that 6 A. No; | found out because I had a very 7 Jeffrey Epstein had paid during the civil 7 good relation with Adirammi. Adirammi called to 8 fitigation -- 8 complain and she want all her money. If not, we 9 A. I don’t know. 9 are suing them. So I had to call them: You know, 10 Q. -- te not talk or to go away? 10 either you pay or we sue you for this. So they 11 A. I don't know. 11 pay. 12 Q. Or -- I mean, I'm sort of surprised that 12 But with the other girls, I would always 13 we haven't heard more from the models who were inj 13 say, you are going to do this job, we're 14 New York, didn't make it as models and were only 14 _ responsible to pay you for the job. Whatever you 15 up there in the apartments for Jeffrey Epstein or 15. want to do after is not our concern. That is up 16 9 Jean-Luc. 16 toyou. You're already old enough to do what 17 A. Because not all the models, even if they 17 you're going to do. So that’s why I believe most 18 are underage, they agree to do whatever they want. 18 of the models are not saying anything because what 19 You know, like, in my case, I was -- when I was 19 they going to do? You know, like, they were not 20 with the girls and I was talking to the girls, I 20 — stupid. 21. always said, you know, like, you are going to doa 21 Q. I'm more concerned with the girls who 22 job. You're not being hired to do nothing else. 22 were staying at the 301 East 66th Street 23 You work for nine to five. Even if you go to do a 23 apartments. 24 three-day in San Francisco and the owner of this 24 A. You can get all that information from 25 company wants to ask you something, it's up to 25 Eve. Eve has all of that. Because Eve was 63 65 1 you. You're hired to do your job, After that, we 1 actually the one who was buying everything for 2. have no control. 2 that place and things like that. She -- you know, 3 You know, they were -- there were girls 3 ifshe has all that information, she will give it 4 that they were going to do jobs of 100,000, 4 to you. 5 $200,000. And they were coming, they're real 5 Q. She would have the first and last names? 6 —_ upset, that they never wanted to work again with 6 A. Everything. 7 those people, even though they were paying. 7 Q. And lists and everything? 8 Because they were, like, molesting. No way; I'm 8 A. Everything. 9 here to work. That's it. 9 Q. Okay. So she seems like the right 10 Q. Who were those people? 10 person to talk to? il A. For example, there is a girl, a iL A. Yes. You know, Eve will give you 12 Brazilian girl, what's her name? Adirammi. 12 — details on everything that has to be with New 13 Adirammi. She did a job in San Francisco. And 13 York. Everything related to New York, Eve will 14 the guy wanted to -- 14 give it to you. 15 Q. Do you know her last name? 15 Q. Other than that, your recommendation is 16 A. No. No. I don't remember. And the guy 16 to talk to Khalid? 17 wanted to take her out in his yacht. And she 17 A. Talk to Khalid. Talk to Amanda. 18 _ said, no, I'm going back to my hotel. I'm here to 18 Q. Amanda Grant? 19 do my shooting from nine to five and that's it. 19 A, Amanda will tell you a lot of things. 20 And the guy didn't want to shoot her that next day | 20 Q. And she is here? 21. and he return her in a private plane. But we had 21 A. She's in Miami. Yeah, she's in Miami. 22 — to find for her money because she had a three-day | 22 Q. If find Juliana Barbosa, will she 23 shooting for $15,000 for each day or $20,000 each | 23 talk? 24 day. And because she didn't want to go with him 24 A, You can try. 25 in the boat, he didn't want to have her anymore. 25 Q. I mean, she is obviously someone who 17 (Pages 62 to 65) U.S. Legal Support (305) 373-8404 66 68 1 knows, right? 1 A. He used to live in 1100 West Avenue in 2 A. Yeah, you can try. 2 the penthouse. Not anymore. 3 Q. Imean, you know her as a person. 3 Q. Other than Jeff Fuller, that's the only 4 A. Yes. 4 real friend here? 5 Q. So is she somebody whe seems like 5 A. Other than Jeff Fuller. Jeff Fuller is 6 would -- 6 his partner. You know, Corrado is another friend 7 A. Ifyou start saying that she can make a 7 ~~ of him but I don't know his last name. He lives 8 lot of money, she will talk. That's it. That's 8 here in Miami. 9 the only way you're going to get what you want. 9 Q. How do you spell the first name? 10 Q. That's the only reason why anybody is 10 A, C-O-R-R-A-D-O, He's an Italian guy. 11 going to talk? 11 That's another person he is very close, very 12 A. Yeah. You have to start -- if you don't 12 close, friend of Jean-Luc since Europe. But if 13 _ start with that, nobody is going to open their 13 you don't go to him saying about the money, 14 mouth. Why? For what? They have to know thatif; 14 Corrado is not going to talk. And ifyou talk to 15 _ they're going to open their mouth, they're going 15 Corrado about money, believe me, you're not going 16 to get something for their words. If everybody 16 to have one; you're going to have 20 names and 17 start knowing that they will be able to make 17 you're going to have 20 cases. 18 money, you're not going to have one; you're going 18 Pero, if you don't go with your tool, 19 to have hundreds. You know, if ~- if -- talk to 19 which is going to be, okay, we can make money, we 20 Eve, Ask Eve. And, you know, give me a call 20 can do this, we can do that, they're not going 21 later. And if you want, give you the name of 21 to -- they're not go to sell his friend because 22 people in Brazil that you're going to call and 22 they go out with him. Because when they go out 23 _ start -- if you start saying, look, if you 23 with Jean-Luc, Jean-Luc pays for the bills, 24 — cooperate and you tell me everything you know 24 Jean-Luc pays for the gas, Jean-Luc pays for the 25 because, you know, you will be able to make 25 vacation, Jean-Luc pays for this and that; even if 67 69 1 $50 million, $20 million, how much you want, let's 1 he doesn't have any money to pay his payroll. 2 find it. If they don't get anything like that, 2 Q. How much time does Jean-Luc spend in 3 they're not going to do anything. They're not 3 France? 4 going to move a pencil. Because he goes with 4 A. Very little. Very little. He's 5 $5,000 and they're happy. 5 traveling all over the world. He's traveling all 6 Q. Right. 6 — over the world. 7 A. They're happy. 7 Q. And does he have money problems? 8 Q. Do you know of that happening already? 8 A. Yeah. He doesn’t have any money. 9 A. Yeah. I can say with -- with this 9 Q. He doesn't? 10 woman, that is probably with Conchita. That woman} 10 A. Jean-Luc doesn't have any money. 11 hate him. 11 Q. Where does he get the money from, then? 12 Q. Hates Jeff Epstein? 12 A. From the company. First you have to pay 13 A. No, Jean-Luc. And now she's, like, the 13 Jean-Luc's credit cards and expenses before you 14 best friend. Jean-Luc never pay her $50,000 he 14 pay anybody else. 15 owe her. And maybe, finally, he pay it and 15 Q. That's the rules? 16 whatever, and now he has her in his pocket. 16 A. Yeah. He's -- his American Express 17 Q. Whe else does Jean-Luc stay with when 17 comes for $50,000. Of course, maybe 20 are 18 he's here? 18 tickets for the models, that they going to be 19 A. I don't know -- he doesn't stay anymore 19 reimbursed by the client, but 30,000 are his 20 in his apartment. He has a house now. He rents a 20 expenses. And he says, no, that's scouting. So 21 house. So I know -- 21° we have to pay for that. 22 Q. In New York? 22 Q. Okay. Whe are the other scouts for MC 23 A. No, in Miami. In New York, he's still 23 Squared? 24 — in the place of Jeffrey Epstein. 24 A. Khalid was one. Jeff Fuller is another 25 Q. Oh, okay. And down here he stays -- 25 one. There is another woman, Nicolette. What's 18 (Pages 66 to 69) U.S. Legal Support (305) 373-8404 70 72 1 her name? Something like that, is her name. | 1 to be in touch, maybe with the trial 2 don't recall her name. She does the scouting, 2 subpoena. Hopefully we can just tell 3 too. 3 you that it's off, if things are off. 4 Q. Okay. 4 If it's on, then ['ll let you know. But 5 A. In New York he had another scouter. A 5 you can just call my office and I'll 6 Jewish guy. But now he has the office of MC 6 tell you. 7 Squared in Tel Aviv. You can talk to him, too. I 7 THE WITNESS: Okay. But I'm going 8 don't recall his name. But it's in the Web page 8 to call you -- 9 of MC Squared. 3 MR. EDWARDS: All of the Federal 10 Q. Okay. Yeah, but he's Jean-Luc's friend, | 10 trial subpoenas tell you that you have 11 right? li to be there on that day. But you can 12 A. Yeah, but money talks, 12 just call me and I'll tell you whether 13 Q. Are there any of the other modeling 13 you really have to be there or you 14 — agencies that are not friendly with MC Squared? | 14 don't. 15 Such as Ford Modeling Agency; is that someone? | 15 THE WITNESS: This is July 19. 16 A. There is a guy in New York that you have 16 MR. EDWARDS: Right. 17 to talk to. 17 THE WITNESS: This is for which 18 Q. Who is that? 18 one? 19 A. Uh, what his name? What his name? 19 MR. EDWARDS: It's just one of the 20 Jean-Luc sue him and then he sue him and he won, | 20 very many Jane Does. 21 because Jean-Luc never paid two girls. And he was | 21 THE WITNESS: And this is another 22 the -- the general manager of New York. And he 22 subpoena? 23 opened his own agency and he did much better than | 23 MR. EDWARDS: It's for trial. 24 Jean-Luc. 24 MR. FISTEN: It's just for trial. 25 Q. Do you remember the name of the agency?! 25 (Thereupon, the Sworn Statement was 71 73 i A. It's one -- can be One Model. 1 concluded at 5:23 p.m.) 2 Q. One? . 2 3 A. Yeah. It's Scott. That's his name, 3 4 Scott and One Management. If there is a person 4 5 that is going to talk everything for Jean-Luc, 5 6 _ it's going to be him. 6 7 Q. And have you seen pictures of Jean-Luc 7 8 and underage girls in any other context other than 8 9 at model shoots, parties or whatever? 9 10 A. Parties, yeah. There were pictures. He 10 11 has pictures in his Facebook with the girls, 11 12 hugging the girls or whatever. 12 13 Q. Right. Any with Jeffrey Epstein? 13 14 A. No. I don’t think so. 14 15 Q. Have you ever seen any pictures with 15 16 = Jeffrey Epstein and the models? 16 17 A. The ones that he took at the party. 17 18 Q. Do you know where those are? 18 19 A. No. In Jean-Luc's computer. 19 20 Q. Okay. Has Jean-Luc ever talked about 20 21 any of the cases involving Jeffrey Epstein? 21 22 A. Never. 22 23 Q. Teo you or anybody else that you know? 23 24 A. No, not that I know. 24 25 MR. EDWARDS: Allright. I'm going 25 19 (Pages 70 to 73) U.S. Legal Support (305) 373-8404 74 i CERTIFICATE OF OATH 2 3 4 STATEOF FLORIDA ) 5 COUNTY OF MIAMI-DADE } 6 7 8 I, the undersigned authority, certify that 9 MARITZA VASQUEZ personally appeared before me and’ 10 was duly sworn. a1 WITNESS my hand and official seal this 24th 12 day of June, 2010. 13 14 15 ELAINE CRANDALL Notary Public - State of Florida 16 My Commission No. DD710458 Expires: December 28, 2011 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 75 1 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER 2 3 4 STATE OF FLORIDA 8S. 5 COUNTY OF MIAMI-DADE : 6 7 8 J, ELAINE CRANDALL, Registered Professional Reporter and Notary Public in and for the State of 9 Florida at Large, do hereby certify that I reported the Sworn Statement of MARITZA VASQUEZ, 4 10 witness called in the above-styled cause; and that the foregoing pages, numbered from 1 to 74, 11. inclusive, constitute a true and correct transcription of my shorthand report of the 12 deposition by said witness. 13 | further certify that I am not an attorney or counsel of any of the parties, nor a relative 14 — or employee of any attorney or counsel connected with the action, nor financially interested in the 15 action. 16 WITNESS my hand and official seal in the City of Miami, County of Miami-Dade, State of Florida, 17 this 24th day of June, 2010. 18 419 20 21 ELAINE CRANDALL, R.P.R. 22 23 24 25 U.S. Legal Support (305) 373-8404 20 (Pages 74 to 75)