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From: Jeevacation <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 5:22 PM To: Al seckel Subject: Re: A little thought to thinkers... I agree Sent from my =Phone On Apr 17, 2009, at 1:17 PM, Al seckel =rote: Jeff, Good to talk =o you this morning on this subject, as it is one I am entirely =omfortable with. ;-) The list I sent you =esterday has the criteria of thinkers, out of the box. These are =mongst the very brightest people that I know, where I enjoy listening =o them, and they say insightful things along with a deep understanding =f the subject matter. Intellectual judgment along with intellectual =bility. The two don't always go hand-in-hand. This is also a list of =eople who have a certain type of intelligence, but may not necessarily =ave social intelligence, i.e, they are a bit =wkward. Jay is incredibly skilled socially =ompared to some of the people on this list. Just fyi. I personally am =ot bothered by social awkwardness, but this is your thing, and you would like a good =ix, and that is understandable. Criteria will just be different =hen. You brought up Jay. This is a good =xample. Jay does listen, and then tends to offer up his own views. I =ery much enjoy interacting with Jay, and he is a close friend, and =lthough I may not always agree with him, he does always offer up ideas =hat are interesting and worth thinking about. That's why I put him on =he list. He has a certain way he maps the world and he is also very =ell read and informed. This is not an argument about Jay, just why I =ut him on the list. I would also put Nathan in the same category as =ay. Doesn't listen much, pontificates, don't always agree with what he =ays, but he tends to say things that are provocative and interesting. =e has an interesting way of mapping the world too, and is well read and =nformed. I enjoy bantering with both of them, and count them as real friends that I have known and hung out with for many =ears. Some of the names listed are titans of =ntellectual ego. Steven Wolfram being amongst the worst of them. Others =re very shy and socially and fashion awkward, but are amongst the very =rightest and informed that I know, and will run intellectual circles =round some of the names on this list. I =ery much like the idea of your asking people on this list to contribute =ames of the ten "brightest" people that they know. This list would =rovide an excellent set of =eferences. Please note, =hat although I have a diversity of thinkers, I have distinctly avoided =eople who map the world in a magical way, and would encourage us to =void "magical =hinkers." EFTA_R1_00099508 EFTA01780753 From: Jeevacation <[email protected]> To: Al seckel <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 =:16:16 AM Subject: =e: Re: Sent from my iPhone On =pr 16, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Al seckel <[email protected]> =rote: Anyone you don't know on an immediate list, =sk me or google them. All are good friends of mine for years, but these very high end circles travel together, so you should =e very familiar with almost all of them. And, a few that you don't =now, are off the charts, and in some respects smarter than the ones =hat are familiar... ;•) They just didn't seek the limelight. I have =arked these people with an asterisk. Not everyone on this list is a =cientist. There is no order to this list (this =s a cross-section off the top of my head). I can think of more names if = put my mind to it, but lets start =ere: I am happy to discuss =nyone here Nathan =hyrvold *Catherine Mohr *Jay Walker Christof Koch *Terry =ejnowski Danny Hillis *Bran =erren Vilamur Ramachandran Lisa =andall Frances Arnold Jesse Dylan Larry =age Elon Musk Stephen Wolfram Steve =uvertson *Pablo Ho Jaron Lanier Craig =enter paul Kirkaas Yossi Vardi 2 EFTA_R1_00099509 EFTA01780754 *Eric =jolsness *Mike Douglas Dean Kamen *Shelly =lashow *Derrick Ashong James =ameron *Ronald Crowley *Jeffrey =ehman Christine Maxwell *Brock =ierce *Rich Roberts *Lee Stein *Gerry =ussman *John Conway Dan Dubno (just because he is =ery interesting) From: Jeffrey =pstein «[email protected]> [email protected]> To: Al seckel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 20O9 =:56:34 PM Subject: =e: of course On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:55 =M, Al seckel < > =rote: Ah, you have actually asked my =peciality. Seriously. Ok, different disciplines and business =oo? From: Jeffrey Epstein «mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> To: Al seckel Sent: Thursday, April 16, 20O9 =:52:54 PM Subject: =br> could you give me a list of who you think would enjoy a get together in =lorida„ smart , out of the box types 3 EFTA_R1_00099510 EFTA01780755