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To:
Jeffrey EpsteinUeevacationagmail.comj
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Joscha Bach
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Tue 2/12/2013 5:05:39 AM
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Dear Jeffrey,
thanks for the Skinner article. I did not know that he was aware in 1981 that computers can
simulate evolutionary processes. While I think that it is terrible how Skinner devastated the field
of psychology, that is probably not his own fault but those of stupid acolytes that were unable to
step out of the shadow of the giant. (I think that happens quite often: Maturana's followers did
cybernetics in, Luhmann's followers killed systemic sociology. Artificial Intelligence was lucky
that Minsky, who apparently has a similarly strong personality, was constantly on the move, so
nobody could stay in his shadow for long.)
So Skinner heralded evolutionary psychology, hm?
Today, it seems to be fashionable again to scoff at evolutionary arguments in psychology, usually
on the grounds that they are working post-hoc instead of predictive. (At least for the Axelrod
simulations, that certainly does not apply.) In Al, evolution is mainly conceived of as a method for
constructive problem solving: a blind search, and very few people, like Aaron Sloman, have been
clamoring for looking at evolutionary trajectories when trying to understand intelligence.
By the way, I have looked at Bill Gates' AMA on Reddit
today. http://www.reddit.com/r/lAmA/commentsJI8bhme/im bill_gates cochair of the bill meli
nda gatcs/?limit=500
I am still thinking about what I would want to pitch to him. Naturally, I would go for AI, because
I am invested into the idea that understanding the nature of the mind is the most fascinating puzzle
there is. But if I look at his current mindset and guess what could genuinely interest him, I would
go for large scale economic simulation. I think that the world needs a joint effort on building the
economic equivalent of global climate models. Next to understanding finance and economy, and
experimenting with the results of short-term and long-term interventions on such models, we
might use them to raise the economic understanding of our political class.
I think that one of the reasons that the nordic nations do so well has to do with their small
population size and relatively high integration between milieus. This enables short and and at least
somewhat efficient feedback loops for law-making, perhaps most visible in the way Iceland has
handled the banking crisis. (Of course, the relative abundance of natural resources per capita
helps.) Being able to quantify, predict and understand the economic and social impact of
regulations might go a long way towards improving feedback loops in other societies, too.
Cheers,
Joscha
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