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From: "Barry J. Cohen" To: Jeffrey E. <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Art in CLATs—PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 5:31:47 PM I completely agree that we could use more clarity from Leon. I have thoughts on framing big picture estate issues, so we can discuss with Leon. I will call you up at some point to discuss to see if you can agree. From: jeffrey E. [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, September 22 20171:29 PM To: Barry J. Cohen fl a; Melanie Spinella Subject: Re: Art in CLATs--PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL you and i totally agree. but since you said he has charitiable goals what are they/ ?? !!! . again if we wants to get serious about this, I might be able to add some value if he is not going to spend the time. going back and forth is not useful. If and when ,and only when he wants to get serious about this . I will always be as helpful as i can be. how many art clats has heather seen. ? estate audits done. . with WELL KNOWN ART> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:20 PM, Barry J. Cohen wrote: Apologies, but that is not consistent with what Leon has told us. He has charitable goals as well. If I have misunderstood, I would like to be set straight. From: Jeffrey E. [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 1:18 PM To: Barry J. Cohen Ila>; Melanie Spinella Subject: Re: Art in CLATs--PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL there is a reason i have not engaged on this subject. and have no intention of doing so. one point. barry, as this is really a waste of time. the main goal is not to avoid estate tax. leons goal is to ulimately transfer the most value to the kids. . silly beyond belief. sorry On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 12:32 PM, Barry J. Cohen > wrote: Conversation with Heather and Alan: • Art is valued on the same date for the estate as it is for a testamentary CLAT, even if the CLAT is not funded for years after death. o If the 6-month valuation is lower for the non-CLAT art, we will be obligated to use that valuation for everything, including the CLAT. • Therefore, there is no chance of the art being valued at a high price for estate tax purposes and a lower price for the CLAT. • Accordingly, we don't really care how long it takes the art advisory board to value the art. o Because the 2-year statute of limitations cannot be extended, even with taxpayer consent, the IRS must come up with a valuation within 2 years of filing. EFTA_R1_01302304 EFTA02339282 • We do prefer a lower valuation for the CLAT so there is a greater likelihood of something going to the kids. • There is a risk that the art could be sold for an amount below the valuation. Two mitigants: o If it is sold below our tentative valuation before filing, it is common to change such valuation in the filing. o If it is sold below the art board's valuation, that would be bad, but always a risk that is run with an estate selling assets. • Agree that paying tax on art in fractional interests could be better, but it would lead to paying estate tax, whereas the CLAT route pays no tax. • Giving fractional interests to the CLAT might also be attractive. We are not sure of LOB's appetite to put more art into the art partnership or other fractional interest mechanisms. Among other things, it creates financing issues. • Agree that LOB is probably the best seller of art, so he should seriously consider doing it before death. Not sure he is amenable. Barry 1. Cohen President and Special Counsel Elysium Management, LLC I 445 Park Avenue Suite 1401 New York NY 10022 please note The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside information, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. It is the property of JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by e-mail to [email protected], and destroy this communication and all copies thereof, including all attachments. copyright -all rights reserved please note The information contained in this communication is EFTA_R1_01302305 EFTA02339283 confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside information, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. It is the property of JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by e-mail to [email protected], and destroy this communication and all copies thereof, including all attachments. copyright -all rights reserved EFTA_R1_01302306 EFTA02339284