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From: jeffrey E. <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:44 PM To: Jeremy Rubin Subject: Fwd: i agree with danny , just like bitcoin o= other digital currencies. I think the land of bin=ry decision . its either this or that, now usually leads=C2 to the answer " both" Forwarded messa e From: Danny Hillis Date: Sat, Jul 30= 2 Subject: Re: To: "jeffrey E." <[email protected]> =div dir="ltr"> The two propertie= that the Internet lacks are guaranteed quality of service (bandwidt= and latency) and the ability to know for sure where a packet originated. =hese two features are fundamentally incompatible with the design of the In=ernet and they trade off against other features. For instance the second n=twork I have in mind may well be inferior to the Internet in efficie=cy of utilization of the resources , so it will cost more per bit to send = message. It will probably be worse the than the Internet in supporting an=nymity. So it it not a replacement for the Internet, but a complement to i=. On =ri, Jul 29, 2016 at 9:58 PM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]>= wrote: Forwarded message From: Jeremy Rubin Date: =Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 9:51 AM Subject: Re: To: "jeffrey E."=<jeevacation=gmail.com <mailto:[email protected]» I've been th=nking a lot about this the past few days, some of my thoughts below: =div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:=gb(0,0,0)"> Generally I'm very positive of the no=ion; there's a lot to be desired from our internet protocols. On the other hand, I wonder if this is a var=ant of trumpism, we need to make the internet great again. At what point w=s it great before? When their were but a select few who were able to acces= it; and everybody on it knew they would be meddled with a bit. Once it we=t too mainstream no-longer was being a hacker (or even, user) of such syst=ms an at-your-own-risk endeavor, but was something that people depended on= Similar modern endeavors include U=bit, linked for posterity https://urbit.org, which is mostly made incomprehensible for the p=int of keeping out the un-enlightened. Urbit is supposed to re-imagine com=uting as fundamentally distributed. EFTA_R1_01562687 EFTA02458345 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zooko%27s_triangle.c/riv> In any case, I've gone on a sligh= tangent. My point is it's one thing to say you want a new internet be=ause of a theoretical (or not so theoretical) button, it's another to =ave motive enough to actually build such a new network. Asides from the bu=ton, what properties seem critical to you? <=iv data-smartmail="gmail_signature"> IIIIIIIIIIII [email protected], and munic=tion and all copies thereof, including all attachments. copyright -all "rights reserved =AO please note The information contained in this commu=ication is confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may cons=itute inside information, and is intended only for the use of the addre=see. It is the property of JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure or copyi=g of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited a=d may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, plrase notify us immediately by return e-mail or by e-mail to [email protected], a=d destroy this communication and all copies thereof, including all a=tachments. copyright -all rights reserved 2 EFTA_R1_01562688 EFTA02458346