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From: jeffrey E. <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2015 4:12 PM To: Noam Chomsky Subject: Re: Re: understood, however i am working down the line=C2 , i dont care what creates the signal . ligh= lines regularites, etc. sound smell etc. they merely p=oduce a chemical -electrical . signal/pattern . no more=no less. the de encryption of that signal is my focus.=C2 the method that makes "sense" from that signal=is my prey. On Thu Dec 24 2015 at 10:51 AM Noam Chomsk wrote: This is the program David Marr initia=ed, developed by Shimon Ullman and others. Makes sense, and there ar= some interesting results. David was a friend, and we often discussed these topics. In fact, his famous three levels ad=pted a model from generative grammar. But there was always the funda=ental problem I mentioned. Vision is an input system, crafting coher=nt images from lines, points of light, etc. Language is used for that purpose too, but it's not what language is. That fundamental difference, along wi=h the fact that the principles involved seem quite different, has always b=en a stumbling block to seeking any link. From: jeffrey E. [mailto:[email protected] Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2015 10:48 AM To: Noam Chomsky Subject: Re: Vision rules needed to craft coherent image =AO . Edges? " Faggehtabowtit." Two edges crafted =Abby software ., On Thursday, December 24, 2015, Noam Chomsky > wrote:</=> I presume that the software just guid=s the hardware. Don't see how that changes the consideration=. EFTA_R1_01588918 EFTA02475693 From: jeffrey E. [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2015 10:09 AM To: Noam Chomsky Subject: Re: The hardware of vision is an input system , =C2 It's the software that I'm referring to . On Thursday, December 24, 2015, Noam Chomsky = wrote: We don't teach children langu=ge either, contrary to many beliefs. The visual grammar just grows, and as is known, can develop in various ways depending on early experience= Same with the language grammar, though the period in which experien=e has a shaping effect is much longer. However, there are fundamental differ=nces between vision and language. Can send you a recent paper about it if you like. Vision is an input system. Language isn=E2 t. It's an internal capacity, a system of knowledge,=which is used to process input and also to produce thoughts (sometimes ext=rnalized). Seems also to be modality independent. And their pr=perties look wholly different, so it's hard to see how one could piggy-bac= on the other. Noam From: jeffrey E. [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ] Sent: Thursday, Dec To: Noam Chomsky u ect. we dont teach children to see. they have=a visual grammar built in . why wouldnt we expect some mutatio= of that system to allow auditory grammar. please no=e The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside information, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. It is the property of JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this 2 EFTA_R1_01588919 EFTA02475694 communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. 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