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From: jeffrey E. <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 7, 2015 7:22 PM To: Noam Chomsky Subject: Re: i want the machine to be put in an environment , wit= 5 different languages and learn them . do your th=nk watching movies. might help c=r> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 8:06 PM, Noam Chomsky =span dir="ltr"> . wrote: Don't know if or when this le=ter will get sent. Lots of Internet problems the last few days. =AO One of the problems of living in a third world country. Paris is better, I'm sure. These are interesting suggestions, bu= I'm not sure they are the right ones. They're very =ifferent from the Hilbert questions. These were deeply embedded in rich theoretical understanding, and were at the borders of such understand=ng. Furthermore, solving the problems would have a major impact on enrichi=g mathematics. They were very different from the imi=ation game, which, as Turing explained, had no particular intellectual int=rest but could be useful in encouraging the development of better hardware/software. Incidentally, as a matter of historical=accuracy, I'm keeping to his famous paper. Elsewhere he seem= to have taken it more seriously. In formulating suggestions, it is imp=rtant to avoid the fashionable (and moronic) approach of google-style stat=stical analysis of Big Data. Thus one could perhaps get a better prediction of leaves blowing in the wind by that appr=ach than by invoking the laws of motion and interfering factors, but the b=tter prediction would be scientifically worthless, whatever utility it mig=t have. Now consider these ideas. Take =he first. The Big Data approach might provide a tolerable solution t=at wouldn't have the slightest scientific or other interest — that is, giving some understanding of how infants do it. a> Take the others. A serious and =eaningful answer would require an understanding of the phenotype —=the state attained by the acquisition system. Here there are very significant questions, but like the Hilbert set, theory-internal =nes that can barely be understood outside of the theoretical context in wh=ch they are posed: say, how to incorporate head-movement, with its peculia=ities, within a Merge•based system. And many others like it. That's what I think one would find =hroughout the sciences, with the possible exception of parts of theoretica= physics that verge on mathematics. All throughout the biological sc=ences. And throughout chemistry except maybe in very special corners that are basically part of theoretical physics. EFTA_R1_01609632 EFTA02489247 A further problem is that the real task is not to show how a system could a=quire some competence in English — which, again, might very superf=cially be approximated by an intellectually pointless Big Data approach =E2 but how a child can acquire whatever language it is exposed to. That's always been the problem of theoreti=al linguistics/psycholinguistics. And a very different one, which ca='t be seriously addressed without UG- considerations../span> All requires some more thought, I thi=k. Noam From: Jeffrey E. [mailto:[email protected] Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 8:20 AM To: Noam Chomsky Subject: noam, as always , spending time . was gr=at/ first draft. of the Chomsky Challenge.=C2 . Produce a non- living system that can be p=t into an environment for a while and --- =AO 1. be able to discriminate language from noise.. prize . a 1 dollar bill signed by Noam =AO and 100k. . 2. be able to discriminate caterent sentences from non ( we provide 10 test sentences=C2 ). prize a 10 dollar signed Chomsky bill , a=d 500k. 3. a language learning module. 20 dollar bill signed and 1 million, 4. a sense making module that can underst=nd meaning inference. . etc. the non recommendation =AO recommendation. . ie the student has a nice family.=C2 etc. a 100 dollar signed bill and 10 million dollars. ? =-- If your left leaning, is in conflict with a money prize , we could substitute ---your =rize money goes to charity,- airline tickets=to the Gaza strip. - Nicaragua, North Korea, . and 1000 blank ,protest pla=ards ? or top prize includes 1000 protesters of yo=r choice for three demonstrations :) please no=e The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside information, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. 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