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From: jeffrey E. <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 9:36 PM To: Lawrence Krauss Subject: Re: Hello--CONFIDENTIAL i thought the president can only send you to concilla=ion , then you get to appeal again if that doesnt work. = it is the concilation where a accomadation for your disablity=or severance can be made . I thought the appeal letter w=s technical. id like to appeal and here s why </=iv> On Wed,=Aug 22, 2018 at 5:31 PM, Lawrence Krauss wrote: will think on this.. I don.=99t want to have to go to the next level if I can help it. financial=y and otherwise. I twitter.com/Ikraussl <https://urldef=nse.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http- 3A_twitter.com_lkraussl&d=DQMFAg=amp;c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A- 1IxfAU&r=DB9LvLOIQiaqWc=OihHC0LZCntZCR8Xtq5BHKNVR5To&m=ciP97mEbO4349G8_Nf9l5Up33Th7MWHYf6uw7=U BPZc&s=mspp05BZaPjp5BOPRbD2xXlzHCi4LgzTZBKNgjNBBKg&e=> I w <https://urldef=nse.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http- 3A krauss.faculty.asu.edu_&d=DQM=Ag&c=AGbYxf.IbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A- 1IxfAU&r=DB9LvLOlQia=WcFOihHC0LZCntZCR8Xtq5BHKNVR5To&m=ciP97mEbO4349G8_Nf9I5Up33Th7MWHYf6=w7yU BP2c&s=f7W9C_XvplQaElpZ3o8vIh0dM_e0hTXbMIVPaUviEt8&e=> ww.lawrencemkrauss.com <http://ww.la=rencemkrauss.com> =u> </=iv> On Aug 22, 2018, at 2:30 PM, jeffre= E. <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]» wrote: 1 i think the concilation =ommitee makes the decision. if you can reopen then=isnt it better to keep amber heard to yourself incase you lose than =ou can say new info? wrote: This is the only =hance I get to have the president review this case.. He needs to see=that a large part of the substance of it is incorrect.. Moreover, since c=mplainants are allowed to have the case reopened as many times as they wis= after a determination is made if they claim to have new evidence or disag=ee with its findings, a refusal to consider this evidence as part of my ap=eal is further grounds for discrimination. EFTA_R1_01797694 EFTA02606537 Lawrence M. Krauss Professor School of =arth & Space Exploration and Physics Department Arizona State Uni = ox 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 Research Office: Assistant (Jessica): spacing:normal;text-align:starttext-indent:Opx;text-transform:none;=hite-space:normal;word-spacing:Opx;margin:Oin Oin 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;=ont-family:Calibri"> I twitter.com/Ikraussl <https://urIdefense.proofpoint.com/v2/urI?u=.ht=.p- 3A_twitter.com_lkrauss1&d=DQMFAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Eji=41FqQuZFk4A- 1IxfAU&r=DB9LvLOlQiaqWcFOihHCOLZCntZCR8Xtq5BHKNVR5To&=m=ciP97mEbO4349G8_Nf9I5Up33Th7MWHYf6uw7y UBP2c&s=msppOSBZaPjp5B0PRb=2xXlzHCi4LgzTZ8KNgjNBBKg&e=> I w chttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=ht=p- 3A krauss.faculty.asu.edu_&d=DQMFAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2=jiz41FqQuZFk4A- 1IxfAU&r=DB9LvLOIQiaqWcFOihHCOLZCntZCR8Xtq5BHKNVR5To&=mp;m=ciP97mEbO4349G8_Nf9l5Up33Th7MWHYf6u w7yUBPZc&s=f7W9C_XvplQaElp=3o8vIh0dM_eOhTXbMIVPaUviEt8&e=> ww.lawrencemkrauss.com <http://ww.lawrencemkrauss.comh <=iv style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;=etter- spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:Opx;text-transform:none;=hite-space:normal;word-spacing:Opx;margin:Oin Oin 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;=ont-family:Calibri"> <=span> On Aug 22, 2018, at 2:18 PM, jeffre= E. <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]» wrote: I think you=might want to make it part of the concillaiton process. not to=allow once again , them to get ahead of you. they ask ot=ers re amber . letters. etc. you need to rem=mber this will be published. 'I'll victim shaming not seen to =e the done thing. think if you were writing a two =age piece for the times. then add the rest. On Wed, Aug 22, 201= at 5:15 PM, Lawrence Krauss I agree with you regarding compromise. This =s an appeal letter to the president. It is to explain to him with the prop=sed disciplinary action is not warranted. Letters that were not soli=ited by the OEI but should have been seem fair game in this regard. Lawrence M. Kr=uss Professor <=span> School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department Arizon= State University, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 2 EFTA_R1_01797695 EFTA02606538 Rese=rch Office: I Assistant (Jessica): > <=span> twitter.comnk=aussl <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v=/urI?u=http- 3A_twitter.com_lkrauss1&d=DQMFAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK67=fXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A- 1IxfAU&r=DB9LvLOIQiaqWcFOihHC0LZCntZCR8XtqSB=KNVRSTo&m=ciP97mEbO4349G8_Nf9ISUp33Th7MWHYf6uw7yU BP2c&s=mspp0S=ZaPjp5BOPRbD2xXlzHCi4LgzTZ8KNgjNBBKg&e=> I=/b> w dIttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2=url?u=http- 3A krauss.faculty.asu.edu_&d=DQMFAg&c=AGbYxfJbXK=7KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A- 1IxfAU&r=DB9LvLOIQiaqWcFOihHC0LZCntZCR8Xtq=BHKNVR5To&m=ciP97mEbO4349G8_Nf9I5Up33Th7MWHYf6uw7yU BPZc&s=f7W9=_XvplQaElpZ3o8vIh0dM_e0hTXbMIVPaUviEt8&e=> ww.lawrencemkrauss.com <http://ww.lawrencemkrauss.com/> =/b> On Aug 22, 2018, at 2:13 PM, jeffre= E. <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: is there any -precedent in an appeal letter to add letters of su=port? i think it is a legal appeal not an appeal to ones=emotions . it is legal grounds or not. =you can attack the credibility of witnesses but you have been found to be =ot credible. and with a multi year behavior issue howeve= did you break a rule??? I dont think you sh=uld suggest a compromise in an appeal letter. . you can make refernc= to not wanting a long drawn out court battle. a bit threateni=g, but not play your hand <=iv class=" mail quote">On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 4:54 PM, Lawrence Krauss » wrote: This =s highly confidential of course, but it is good news, and I will use it in=the appeal doc, which I am HEAVILY revising today. I am also going t= send you another support letter that is quite important in a minute. 4>=A0 La=rence M. Krauss Professo= School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Departme=t Arizona State Universit P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-=404 Research Office: I Assistant (Jessica): C24* 4P=A0I twitter.com/Ikraussl <https://urIdefens=.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http- 3A_twitter.com_lkrauss1&d=DQMFAg&am=;c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A- 1IxfAU&r=DB9LvLOIQiaqWcFOi=HC0LZCntZCR8XtqSBHKNVRSTo&m=ciP97mEbO4349G8_Nf9ISUp33Th7MWHYf6uw7yU B=Zc&s=mspp0SBZaPjp5BOPRbD2xXlzHCi4LgzTZ8KNgjNBBKg&e=> I w <https://urldefense=proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http- 3A_krauss.faculty.asu.edu_&d=DQMFAg&=mp;c=AGbYxfJbXK67KfXyGqyv2Ejiz41FqQuZFk4A- 3 EFTA_R1_01797696 EFTA02606539 llxfAU&r.DB9LvLOIQiaqWcF=ihHC0LZCntZCR8Xtq5BHKNVRSTo&m=ciP97mEbO4349G8_Nf9ISUp33Th7MWHYf6uw7y=B PZc&s=f7W9C_XvplQaElpZ3o8vIh0dM_e0hTXbMIVPaUviEt8&e=> ww.lawrencemkrauss.com <http://ww.lawr=ncemkrauss.com/> </=iv> Begin forwarded message: A H Subject: Hello Date: August 22, 2018 =t 1:23:08 PM PDT To: Lawrence Krauss > > Thanks for forwarding me the content of the investiga=ive report by ASU related to me and my participation, along with Johnny, a= Origins events. I am attaching what you sent to me so that l=may comment on it.: "Four Witnesses reported =uring the investigation that Respondent once made a comment in the presenc= of employees about the physical characteristics of Amber Heard, an actres= and female visitor at Origins Project event. Specifically, during the Joh=ny Depp event on February 16, 2016, that Respondent, while getting everyon= together to take a picture with Johnny Depp, said, "get your hot =ss over here" when attempting to get Amber to join the picture. Du=ing this same event, two witnesses allege that Respondent told Heard, Q=804,Your ass looks great." Employees also indicate that he talked=about how "hot she was". When asked if he ever commented on a female's buttocks in front =f employees, Respondent stated, "Whoa, not that I...I can*=800t imagine doing that". Respondent stated, "Generally,=I would say that is not a good idea" but added that if someone ask=d his opinion about someone, he might respond. When asked if he ever made =omments about Amber Heard's body, Respondent stated, "No. =mber Heard is an incredibly attractive woman, and everybody understands th=t and everybody said it, and she is". Respondent stated that he did =ot remember telling Heard that her "ass" looked good. He s=ated, "I don't remember saying it, but it's the kind of thing that a close friend would say to a close friend in the context =f [asking for wardrobe advice], but I certainly don't remember it,=but we were very, very close." Respondent stated that making such =omments in the workplace would be outside of normal conduct for him, but =E2nif it would've happened, it would have not been at the Ori=ins offices. It would have been in the middle of an event when we were cel=brating". Factual Determination: Four witnesses heard Respondent make =he statement. Although Respondent stated he did not remember saying this, =e did acknowledge that it is the kind of thing that a close friend would s=y. It is more likely than not that Respondent made the statements. 40=9C Hey =awrence. 4 EFTA_R1_01797697 EFTA02606540 <=div> Here is my response, which you may forwa=d to the University if you wish: </=pan> I do not recall this or any incident between us =s being inappropriate. I also feel deeply for anyone who feels as though t=ey have been the subject of any unwanted attention in this way, so I hope =his can provide any clarity on your situation. Lawrence Krauss was a close friend= and as I recall his behavior towards me was gracious and kind during our =isits to the Origins Project. I don't recall any such commen=s by him backstage at the Origins event, and more generally remember no in=ppropriate comments toward me at any time, either in public or backstage d=ring the events, or at our home or elsewhere, and we left all of our inter=ctions with both him, and his Origins staff, feeling very well treated. Th= Origins events were a highlight for me. I hope this lays th=s issue to rest. Due to the public nature of my life and the uniquely pu=lic circumstances surrounding aspects of my marriage and divorce to my ex-=usband (who participated in the Origins event mentioned above), I request =hat this statement be used internally by the university only. Thank you.</=iv> </=iv> Best r=gards Amber Heard. </=iv> 4)=A0 please note The information contained in this=communication is confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, mayconstitute inside information, and is intended only for the use of the=addressee. It is the property of JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure or=copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibite= and may be unlawful. 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