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From: jeffrey E. <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 10:06 PM To: Lawrence Krauss Subject: Re: Hello--CONFIDENTIAL you made a point in your stastement to say you wer very ve=y close to amber , taking away her objectivtiy with re credibi=ity On =ed, Aug 22, 2018 at 6:01 PM, Lawrence Krauss <atg=; wrote: The President will read the appeal=letter, as far as I know, and can send to conciliation, who will read the =ppeal letter too I believe.. But I believe the President could act on the =ppeal directly too. </=iv> On Aug 22, 2018, at 2:35 PM, jeffre= E. <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]» wrote: i thought the president can=only send you to conciliation , then you get to appeal again if that=doesnt work. . it is the concilation where a accom=dation for your disablity or severance can be made . I t=ought the appeal letter was technical. id like to appeal and h=re s why On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 5:31 PM, Lawrence Krauss < <mailto > wrote: will think o= this.. I don't want to have to go to the next level if I ca= help it. financially and otherwise. EFTA_R1_01798691 EFTA02607086 Lawrence M. Krauss Professor School of =arth & Space Exploration and Physics Department Arizona State Unive=sity, On Aug 22, 2018, at 2:30 PM, jeffre= E. <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]» wrote: 1 i t=ink the concilation commitee makes the decision. if you =an reopen then isnt it better to keep amber heard to yourself =ncase you lose than you can say new info? On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 5:24 PM, Lawrenc= Krauss < <mailto > wrote: This is the only chance I get to have the president review this case..=C24> He needs to see that a large part of the substance of it is incorrec=.. Moreover, since complainants are allowed to have the case reopened as =any times as they wish after a determination is made if they claim to have=new evidence or disagree with its findings, a refusal to consider this evi=ence as part of my appeal is further grounds for discrimination. <=div> School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department Arizona=State University, 2 EFTA_R1_01798692 EFTA02607087 On Aug 22, 2018, at 2:18 PM, jeffre= E. <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]» wrote: I think you might want to make it part of the concillaiton proces=. not to allow once again , them to get ahead of you. 40=A0 they ask others re amber . letters. etc. =C24, you need to remember this will be published. 11111 victi= shaming not seen to be the done thing. think if y=u were writing a two page piece for the times. then add =he rest. href="mailto On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 5:15 PM, Lawrence Krauss «= target="_blank" qa» wrote: I agree with you regarding c=mpromise. This is an appeal letter to the president. It is to explai= to him with the proposed disciplinary action is not warranted. Lett=rs that were not solicited by the OEI but should have been seem fair game =n this regard. I Law=ence M. Krauss Professor=C24> School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Departmen= Arizona State University, </=pan> I twi=ter.comilkraussl 3 EFTA_R1_01798693 EFTA02607088 On Aug 22, 2018, at 2:13 PM, jeffre= E. <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]» wrote: is there any -precedent in an appeal letter=to add letters of support? i think it is a legal appeal =ot an appeal to ones emotions . it is legal grounds or n=t. you can attack the credibility of witnesses but you h=ve been found to be not credible. and with a multi year behavi=r issue however did you break a rule??? Q=A0 I dont think you should suggest a compromise in an appeal letter. =. you can make refernce to not wanting a long drawn out court battle.4=AO a bit threatening, but not play your hand <mailto On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at =34 PM, Lawrence Krauss < > wrote: <=lockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:lpx=tfccc solid;padding-left:lex"> This is highly confidential of course, but it is good n=ws, and I will use it in the appeal doc, which I am HEAVILY revising today= I am also going to send you another support letter that is quite im=ortant in a minute. Lawrence M. Krauss School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics=Department Arizona State University, =/div> Begin forwarded message: 4 EFTA_R1_01798694 EFTA02607089 From: A H Subject: Hell= Date: August 22, 2018 at 1:23:08 PM PDT To: Lawrence Krauss < <mailto > > > > Thanks for forwarding me the content=of the investigative report by ASU related to me and my participation, alo=g with Johnny, at Origins events. I am attaching what you sen= to me so that I may comment on it.: "Four Wi=nesses reported during the investigation that Respondent once made a comme=t in the presence of employees about the physical characteristics of Amber=Heard, an actress and female visitor at Origins Project event. Specificall=, during the Johnny Depp event on February 16, 2016, that Respondent, whil= getting everyone together to take a picture with Johnny Depp, said, 0=800get your hot ass over here" when attempting to get Amber to j=in the picture. During this same event, two witnesses allege that Responde=t told Heard, "Your ass looks great." Employees also indic=te that he talked about how "hot she was". When asked if he ever commented on a female's =uttocks in front of employees, Respondent stated, "Whoa, not that =...l can't imagine doing that". Respondent stated, =E2$4Generally, I would say that is not a good idea" but added =hat if someone asked his opinion about someone, he might respond. When ask=d if he ever made comments about Amber Heard's body, Respondent st=ted, "No. Amber Heard is an incredibly attractive woman, and every=ody understands that and everybody said it, and she is". Respondent =tated that he did not remember telling Heard that her "ass0=9D looked good. He stated, "I don't remember saying it, bu= it's the kind of thing that a close friend would say to a close f=iend in the context of [asking for wardrobe advice], but I certainly don=E244>t remember it, but we were very, very close." Respondent s=ated that making such comments in the workplace would be outside of normal=conduct for him, but "if it would've happened, it would ha=e not been at the Origins offices. It would have been in the middle of an =vent when we were celebrating". Factual Determination: Four witnesses =eard Respondent make the statement. Although Respondent stated he did not =emember saying this, he did acknowledge that it is the kind of thing that = close friend would say. It is more likely than not that Respondent made t=e statements. " =div style="font-family:SFNSText,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Ari=l,sans- serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normallon.-weight:300;letter-spacing:normal;text- align:starttext-indent:Opx;text-tr=nsform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:Opx;background- color:rgb(255,2=5,255);text-decoration:none">Hey Lawrence. these circumstances. =/div> I'm glad to hear from you although, of cours=, I am saddened that it is under 5 EFTA_R1_01798695 EFTA02607090 Here is my response,=which you may forward to the University if you wish: I do not recall this or any =ncident between us as being inappropriate. I also feel deeply for anyone w=o feels as though they have been the subject of any unwanted attention in =his way, so I hope this can provide any clarity on your situation. <=span> =span style="font-family:SFNSText,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sa=s-serif;font- size:15px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-wei=ht:300;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:starttext- indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,25=);text- decoration:none;float:none;display:inlinelimportant">Lawrence Kraus= was a close friend, and as I recall his behavior towards me was gracious =nd kind during our visits to the Origins Project. I don't re=all any such comments by him backstage at the Origins event, and more generally remember no inappropriate comments toward me at any time, either in p=blic or backstage during the events, or at our home or elsewhere, and we l=ft all of our interactions with both him, and his Origins staff, feeling v=ry well treated. The Origins events were a highlight for me. adiv> Due to the public nature of my life=and the uniquely public circumstances surrounding aspects of my marriage a=d divorce to my ex-husband (who participated in the Origins event mentione= above), I request that this statement be used internally by the universit= only. Thank you. Best regards Amber Heard. please note The information contained in this communication is confidential, =ay be attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside information, an= is intended only for the use of the addressee. 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