From:
jeffrey E. <
[email protected]>
Sent:
Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:38 PM
To:
Richard Kahn
Subject:
Re: Larry G550 flight school with 8430 and GIV for Dave & Bill
all
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 5:13 PM, Richard Kahn <
<mailto
wrote:
wrote:
ok
start with 182,600 or include=Syn Vision and CPDLC as well for 218,600 cost
please advis=
thanks
Richard Kahn
HBRK Asso=iates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
> >
On May 25, 2017, at 5:12 PM, jeffre= E. <
[email protected] <
[email protected]»
Pay
On T=u, May 25, 2017 at 5:00 PM Richard Kahn <
<mailto
> wrote:
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5,800 or 3.1%
1,900 discount for both dave and bill=hammond from 64,500 to 62,600 for a total discount of
<=iv> total cost 182,600 provided we prepay for all
=nfortunately information originally presented by Larry on 4/20/2017 was no= accurate (see
bottom of attached email chain) as larry inferred that Syn =ision 4,700 and CPDLC 7,300 were included in Flight Safety
pricing
larry is eager to get dave and bill started on training and securing slo=s
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i am unaware if Simuflight includes these two additional costs=and note that Simuflight is 40k
for G550 initial yet recurrent for GIV is =ot clear (i have not spoken with vendor as larry is very firm on using fli=ht safety)
larry mentions that flight safety is more rigourous a=d fails people however when i spoke with
gregg he said failing is rare and=it would be hard to fail dave knowing he works on Larry's team
please advise if ok to proceed and with or without extras as per pri=ing below or shall i call
simulflight to obtain an accurate picture of cos= differential
thank you
=blockquote type="cite">
Larry V
G550 / 9430 $57,400
CPDLC.
=C2t> $ 7,300
Syn Vision. $ 4,700
=div>
Total LV
=C24, $69,400
Dave Rodgers
6550 /rGIV. $62,600
CPDLC.
$. 7,=00
Syn Vision. $. 4,700
Total
$74,6=o
Bill Hammond
G550 / GIV. $62,60=
CPDLC.
$. 7,300
Syn=Vision. $. 4,700
<=iv>Total.
$74,600
Total without CPDLC a=d Syn Vision 182,600
Total with CPDLC and Syn Vision 218,600 <=span>
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
57= Lexington Avenue 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
=/div>
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Richard Kahn <
<mailto
Rich
Jeffrey asked me the difference between =SI FlightSaftey and CAE Simuflite training,
since its a $20k difference be=ween schools.
FSI is a more Regimented and Harder to pass a pilo= with lower than average skills, FSI
would not offer a Type Rating class t= Nadia due to her experience level. I've seen 3 pilots in=my classes held back for
more training, I've trained the past 10 years=at FSI,. Dave attends CAE,. It's time for all of our pilots to be test=properly.
It's the difference between Harvard and a Community collage.=C24>
Here is what i come up with total training,=pls advise if approved?
Definitions:
CP=LC = Controller-Pilot Data Link Communication.
Syn Visio= = Synthetic Vision.
HUD = Heads Up Display, included in 655= initial training.
EVS = Enhanced Vision System, Include= in G550 initial training.
Larry V
G550=/ B430 $57,400
CPDLC.
$ 4>=A07,300
Syn Vision. $ 4,700
Total LV
$69,40=
Dave Rodgers
G550 / GIV. $62,600=/div>
CPDLC.
$. 7,300
Syn V=sion. $. 4,700
Tot=l
$74,600
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Bill Hammond
G550 / GIV. $62,600
CPDLC. =C240
5. 7,300
Syn Vision. S. =C2.4,700
Total. =C2.
$74,600
Total training with FlightSaftey
$218,600
<=div>
Thank you,
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Larry
Sent from my iPad
On Ma= 25, 2017, at 10:31 AM, Richard Kahn <
<mailto
> wrote:
<=div>
i did not see your response or may=have missed it..
can you please be specific on additional traini=g needed along with cost so i can
present to jee total cost
than= you
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
57= Lexington Avenue 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
=/cliv>
On May 25, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Larry=Visoski <
<mailto
> wrote:
Hi Rich,.
I t=ought I copied you on my response to Greg in reference to enhanced
trainin=„
Below is Greg's response and reduce pricing for
HUD and EVS included in initial„
See be=ow email Trail
Thx
Larryi>=A0
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needed.
<mailto
> wrote:
<mailto
> >
Yes but you never responded or communi=ated if any ancillary courses are
Richard Kahn
HBRK=Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue= 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
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On May 25, 2017, at 9:41 AM, Larry=Visoski <
Hi Rich,.
I'd like to get closure on G550 tra=ning and pick class dates.
Are you satisfied with Greg'=s counter offer?
Thx
Larry ar>
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<mailto
<mailto
Cc: Richard Kahn &l=
<mailto
», "McCann, Suzanne" <
<mailto
Hi Larry and Rich,
> >
Here are your special rates for the G550 Ancillary courses, if needed=
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4,=A0
EVS -=$0 (covered in the G550 Initial)
=C240
HUD - $0 (covered in the G550 In=tial)
j>=A0 Enhanced Navigation (CPDLC, WAAS, ADS-C) - $7,300 each 4)=A0
Normally $9=500 under One Time or Two Event
=C24,
Gulfstream Synthetic Vision - $4=700 each
=C24>
40=A0
=C24)
Normally $7,500 under One =ime or Two Event
4>=A0
Gulfstream XM Aviation - $445 =C24k
4,=A0
=C2*
4>=AO
=C24›
Nor=ally $555 under One Time or Two Event
Please advise on which of the above you'll nee= based upon your particular
serial number and also which account you4k=99d like the training to be on.
All the best,
Greg
Greg Williford
Regional Sales Director=/p>
FlightSafety Internat=onal
=a href="mailto
target="_blank">
[email protected]
=C2*
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>
To:
Cc: Richard Kahn; McCann, Suzanne
Subject= Re: GSSO
< = >
Ok pls include Special pricing for EVS/HUD and CODLC training for Mr Kahn to
approve<=p>
Thx
=arry
Sent from my iPhone
On May 23, 2017, at 11:40=AM, Williford, Greg
<mailto
» wrote:</=>
Hi Larry,<=>
</=pan>
Furl Service covers a few of the "nice to know" enrichments l=ke cold weather
ops, TAWS, CFIT, etc. and Full Service also gives discount= for many of the ancillary courses. However, the Two Event
program i= not Full Service and covers two specific events per pilot. That sai=, with the commitment you and Rich are
making to FlightSafety for all thre= pilots, we may be able to provide the Full Service rates for the ancillar= courses like
Enhanced Nav and Synthetic Vision, etc. =u>
< = >
Attached=are fact sheets on Enhanced Nav, Synthetic Vision, XM Aviation
Weather and=CPDLC eLearning. Let me know if you wish to take any of these or oth=r ancillary courses and I can include
your special prices in the Agreement=
I'm available by phone
> if you'd like=to
discus.
All the best,
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Greg
Cc: Richard=Kahn; McCann, Suzanne
=/div>
Thx Greg„
Y=s we have HUD and EVS„
=/div>
<mailto
On May 23, 2017, at 11:18 AM, Williford, Greg
> wrote:
be of service.
very close to meeting your reque=ts:
=u>
1.
=/span>We are able to offer you a G550 Initial with Bell 430 Recurr=nt
within 14 months for Larry at $57,400 each
2.
We are =ble to offer you G550 Initial with Gulfstream G-IV Recurrent within
14 mon=hs for your other two pilots at $62,600 each
3.
We will =repare a contract for all three pilots for your signature. Upon
sign=ng, we will create invoices for each pilot and ask that the three invoices=be prepaid ($182,600 total) before the first
training session for the firs= pilot on the schedule.
Hi Mr. Ric=ard,
>
I
Great to speak with you=again yesterday and thank you for this opportunity to
=/u>
I have discussed your counter prop=sal with our team and we are able to come
Our G550 Initial course covers HUD and EVS. Please advise i= the unit you have
purchased has Enhanced Navigation, Synthetic Vision and=or XM Weather and we can get you pricing for those
courses.<=>
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Lastly, we have at least three different ac=ounts set up for your current
airplanes and will need to consolidate the Paining for all three pilots onto one. When you are ready to move for=ard,
please advise which account will be best for the scheduling, contract=and billing and we will send you the Agreement for
Training under that acc=unt to cover your special rates.
Please let me know if you have questions and if I can be of assistance=in any
way. We truly appreciate your business.<=div>
All the best,
Greg
=span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-seritcolor:rgb(31,7=,125)">
Gre= Williford
Region=l Sales Director
=lightSafety International
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Hi Richard,
I was on vacation Thursday and Friday....sorry l=missed your calls and email. I'm
in the office today and loo=ing forward to speaking with you. Please call me whenever conv=nient at -
> or let me know a good time to reach out to you.
All the best,
Greg
=C240
<=div>
Greg Williford
Regional Sales Director
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move forward together
Roman',serif">
the end of the week
> J=C2*
i just called your office and cell
can you please call me on my cell when you have t=me so we can hopefully
thank you
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.=u>
575 Lexington Avenue, 4th Floor<=>
New York, NY 10022<=>
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<=iv style="margin:Oin 0in 0.0001ptfont-size:12ptfont-family:ITimes =ew
good m=rning
happy to hear that yo= and larry have again been in touch
i am meeting with our principal today as he wants to m=ke a decision on this by
can you please review your pricing and agree to move forward as fo=lows:
=u>
Richard Kahn
HBRK Ass=ciates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022tel
</=iv>
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=span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif'>Date: May 15, 2017 at 5:38:52
PM EDT=/span>
<mailto
>, Je vacatio= <
[email protected] <mailto:
[email protected]> >
=u>
From Flight=aftey
Sent =ram my iPhone
Beg=n forwarded message:
<mailto
service for al= your training needs.
'= target.»
Date= May 15, 2017 at 8:12:36 PM GMT+2
<mailto
Cc: "McClendon, Woody"
», "Martinez, Melanie"
», "Parrish, Vincent" <
Hi Larry,
> &=t;
Great to hear that t=e G550 deal came through. We look forward to being of
As you know, we have several pricing options,=including the Two Event/13
Month contract (2 sessions per pilot within 14 =onths). The Two Event program offers additional discounts off the On=
Time pricing by prepaying the two events at the start of the contract per=od. We can "mix" aircraft types under the Two
Event pricin= option as long as the training and contract is all with one account. 40=A0
each pilot
$64,500 each pilot
Listed below are your prices for 2017:
TWO E=ENT
Gulfstream G550 Initial with Bell 430 Recurrent within=14 months - $59,400
Gulfstream G550 Initial wit= Gulfstream G-IV Recurrent within 14 months -
Pl=ase let me know if you have questions and if we can be of service in any w=y.
All the best,
Greg
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Greg Williford
Regional Sales Di=ector
FlightSafety International
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Original Message
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Hello Greg„
I have 2 pilots that require;
G550 initial trainin=,
And GIV Reccurent„
Can you price this for me?
I need G550 =nitial plus Bell 430 recurrent myself„ Can you present a full
package to =ign with Flight saftey with above Request?
Thx
Larry Visoski
=a href="tel
5" target="_blank">9=7-
<mailto
Plan D, LLC G550
lege Llc GIV
Hyperion Air, LL= Bell 430
Sent from my iPhone
<=div>
Rich
Yes Dave, Bill and I have completed Train=ng in GIV in past 12 months,. Greg
Williford is with Flight Saftey, he did='t realize I trained with simuflite this past year
My plan was to send Dave Rodgers to Flight Saftey for G550 initial,=C2*
I was planning to send Bill Hammond and myself to si=uflight,. For cost savings„
I told Jeffrey that Flight Saftey h=s a more thorough flight training program that
Dave would benefit from,. P=us not everyone passes the course at FlightSafety much more stringent,.
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If we want to save $20,000 per person in training cost we all coulthattend
Simuflite if you like?
Larry
Simuflite CAE GIV recurrent training March 2017,. Due GIV in March 2018.=C240
Dave Rodgers
Simuflite CAE =rained Aug 2016,. Is due for recurrent Aug 2017.,
Trained FlightSatfey
July 2016,.=Is due for ReCurrent July 2017.,
=div>
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On Apr 25, 2017, =t 11:41 AM, Richard Kahn <
<mailto:
> wrote:
ok
larry can you please provide last GIV training da=es (dave, bill and yourself) as i
believe i was told by greg wilford of fl=ght safety that we may have to do separate training for GIV if GV not done=either
within 12 months or 1 month thereafter..
i just informed =ee of this but did not have dates and need to verify timing
=/div>
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575=Lexington Avenue 4th Floor
New York, NY 10022
tel
/=>
faxM<tel
On Apr 24,=2017, at 6:50 PM, jeffrey E. <
[email protected]
<mailto:
[email protected]> wrote:
i think it best that we wait, until closer to the itme the plane =s ready from
erics i dont want dave or larry to ha=e 4 months between training and flying
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 6:21 PM, Larry Viso=ki <
<mailto
> wrote:
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Rich
CAE Simuflite offered G550 initial at $40k each,.
Here is Contract info;
</=iv>
Brian bird - CAE
<tel:
Thx
Larry
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wrote:
then again to =7,500
initial and recurrent</=iv>
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On Apr 24, 2017, at 5:34 PM, Richard Kahn <
=>>
just spoke with g=eg and he said you negotiated the best deal possible
list for initial =nd recurrent is 121,000 which he then reduced to 91,000 and
unfortunately after 2 phone calls and almost 2 hours on th= phone no such luck
can you please send me simufl=ght contact info as well as they are at 65,750 for
thanks
Richard Kahn
H=RK Associates Inc.
575 Lexington Avenue 4th Floor
New York, NY =0022
tel
<tel:
fax
<tel.
cell =a href="tel:
On=Apr 21, 2017, at 9:30 AM, Larry Visoski <
For Sure,. Definitely worth a try;
=ry this person first,.
Flight Saftey sales rep;
Gulfstream Sales training
Greg Wilford
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<tel:'
Woody McClendon is my Bell =30 Hell sales rep„ and close acquaintances„ nice
guy„ he understands ne=otiati
> cell
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 21, 2017, at 8:34 AM,=Richard Kahn <
<mailto
>
wrote:
lee wants me to give negotiating a shot. Please send me co=tact info and call to
discuss game plan. Thanks.
<mailto:
[email protected]»
ini=ial class.
Richard Kahn
HBRK Associates Inc.
575 Lexingt=n Avenue, 4th Floor
New York, NY 100=2
Phone
Fax
Cell
Begin forw=rded message:
make a deal for t=ree pilots. all recuurent with recurrent 430 for larry
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All prices q=oted from Simuflight or Flight Safety is considering 3 pilots for G550
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=div id="m_-
3684382133456901947m_5412757866552739395m_7941238824000058017=_-
3133108388165347953AppleMailSignature">Simuflite Price is $40k for 6550 =nitial class,.
Follow=ng year, re-Current training is $25,750
Bell 430 i=em,
This was Flight S=ftey quote for me, which included the Bell 430 re-current and
G550 initial= price is $59,400 which is 550 initial and Bell 430 recurrent,. I would ne=d a G550 recurrent the next year,
which is an additional $25k.,
Sent =rom my iPad
On Apr 20, 2017, at 5:44 PM, jeffrey E. <
[email protected]=> wrote:
it says b=ll 430? how much was simuflite and what is the price for=3 people
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 4:32 PM, Larry Visoski <
-C2I>wrote:
Jeffrey
"Flight Saftey" in Da=las has start date May 1st G550 initial class. Ends May
23rd, which includ=s Check Ride, Advance Navigation course w/CPDLC, and Synthetic Vision clas= that includes Sim time
using HUD "Heads Up Display" and EVS &qu=t;Enhanced Vision System" ops in the Simulator.
Single time ev=nt is $62,100 for Initial.
Dual event which covers 24 month is $77,500<=r>After Initial training, the
following year Recurrent G550 training is $2=,700
Option
1-Do you want Dave to do Single event Initial for $6=,100
Or
2- the two year program which is 6550 Initial and includes N=xt years Recurrent
training total $77,500
Option 1 or 2 ?
=br>Thx
Larry
Hi Larry,
Congrats on the pending pu=chase on the G550 and thanks for your email.
We'd like to amend=the proposal we sent to you on February 3rd with the
following special Two=Event prices for 2017:
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=C2*Gulfstream G550 Initial with G550 Recurrent for the same pilot
within=13 months - $77,500 each pilot
Gulfstream G550 Initial wit= Bell 430 Recurrent for the same pilot within 13
months - $59,400 each pil=t
As discussed, we don't offer G-V with G550 differences and on=y offer G550
training in our G550 sims due to safety concerns based on dis=ussions with GAC, our customer advisory boards and
customers. The pr=ces above will cover the "type specific" G550 and Bell 430 train=ng.
Please let me and/or Woody know if you have any questions.Q=A0 We look
forward to being of service.
All the best,
Greg
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