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Cc: "Kathleen E. Cassid "
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Thanks very much— is there a particular time that works best for your team, maybe in the morning?
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On Dec 10, 2020, at 7:11 PM, Susan Necheles c
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Wow. Strange. I am available except 11-12.
Susan R. Necheles
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On Dec 10, 2020, at 6:46 PM,
wrote:
Hi all,
Are you available for a call tomorrow? It would be very helpful to speak with you before the weekend, if you have
time. We're available for a call anytime except from 11-12 tomorrow.
Thanks very much,
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Hi all, sorry for the delay. Would a call tomorrow at 11 or 2 work?
Thank you,
Kate
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(USANYS)
On Nov 13, 2020, at 2:08 PM,
> wrote:
No worries at all— happy to talk Monday instead. Whenever you have a sense of timing, just let us know. Thanks,
and hope everyone has a nice weekend.
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On Nov 13, 2020, at 1:39 PM, Kathleen E. Cassidy <->
wrote:
All: I apologize but Susan has had a personal situation arise for this afternoon — can we push our call back to
Monday? Thanks for your understanding.
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That works, thanks. Talk to you then.
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On Nov 13, 2020, at 9:09 AM, Kathleen E. Cassidy <
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Great, should we use the same call-in number as the other day?
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That works for us, thanks.
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On Nov 12, 2020, at 10:15 PM, Kathleen E. Cassidy <
wrote:
How about 2:30?
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Cc:
Susan Necheles <
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Hi Kate,
We'd be happy to discuss— unfortunately, we're not available at 1 p.m. tomorrow, but we are free anytime
before 11 or between 2 and 4.
Thanks,
(USANYS)
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On Nov 12, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Kathleen E. Cassidy <
> wrote:
and M
,
Attached is the civil complaint that we discussed on the phone yesterday, which contains the allegation about
the incident in the townhouse.
We have also had some further discussion amongst ourselves after our call yesterday and would like to
schedule a follow-up call with you. Would tomorrow at 1pm work for you all?
Best,
Kate
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Susan Necheles <
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Thanks very much for sending. Our team has reviewed your draft and is prepared to go forward with the call
at 12:30pm today.
Best,
On Nov 11, 2020, at 12:08 PM, Kathleen E. Cassidy <
wrote:
All:
We want to give you a draft of our suggested changes (attached) before our conversation this afternoon. We
realize the time is short before our scheduled call, so if you do not have sufficient time to review it in
advance of our call, we are happy to push the time for our call back until after you have had a chance to
review it.
We have tried to work within the framework you provided. There are some allegations which we do not
believe are accurate. Given the long passage of time, however, we understand that there might be different
recollections about what occurred. We have tried to set forth both views of what occurred. We understand
that you do not want a Fatico hearing and are willing to agree that we will not ask for a Fatico hearing to
attempt to resolve the different recollections.
With respect to the specific allegations about
being present during massages when girls were sexually
assaulted,
does not believe she was ever present during any of these incidents and believes that the
girls misremember the circumstances. We note that these events occurred a long time ago and were
emotionally charged, a circumstance which can cause people to have faulty memories.
Indeed, we think that some of the evidence seems to contradict the victim's claims that
was present
when they, as minors, were sexually molested by Epstein.
Specifically, based on allegations in a lawsuit, one of the victims referred to in the statement of facts states
that she was abused on Epstein's ranch when she was a minor and that
was present. But flight logs
reflect that the first time that the victim was on a flight to or from the ranch where she states the abuse
occurred was in April 2003, after the victim was 18 years old. Moreover, the victim's attorney has also stated
that a photo of the victim and Epstein in which the victim is smiling, taken in December 2002, was taken
before the victim knew that Epstein would sexually abuse her. This appears to contradict the victim's
allegation that in the summer of 2002 she was flown to the ranch and abused by Epstein in the presence of
To be clear, we are not asserting that this victim is lying about Epstein abusing her. Our point is simply that
this occurred 18 years ago and that she appears to be confused about the timing of events and who was
present.
Another victim claims that that
walked in on an incident where the victim was performing
on
Epstein in his New York townhouse. This victim has named
as a defendant in her civil suit and has
alleged that this incident occurred in 2005. During this time period,
worked out of Maxwell's home
and spent little time in Epstein's townhouse. Staff, including =,
were never allowed to roam the halls or
go into private areas of Epstein's Manhattan home unless they were summoned there.
never walked in
on someone when that person was giving Epstein
and believes that this victim must be confusing
her with someone else.
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does not doubt that Epstein abused these women, as he did with almost all young women and girls
he came into contact with, but the available evidence does not support the assertion that
was
present for or witnessed any sexual abuse of these victims while they were minors. Accordingly, we do not
object to allowing these women telling their stories but we cannot agree that the allegations in their stories
concerning
are correct.
Let us know what would work best for a call.
Thanks,
Kate
Kate Cassidy
Necheles Cassidy LLP
Mobile
<2020.10.11 Defense edited SOF.docx>
<2019.11.20 Complaint
v. Indyke (Estate of Epstein) 19cv10758.pdf>
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