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EXHIBIT B EFTA00090773 FD-302 (Rev 5410) SOD-NY-3027571 Serial 168 -1 of 1- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION natatory 07/23/2019 MMOMMA MOW, date of birth (DOB) , residence address , was interviewed at her residence. Aterbeing advised o teientity of the interviewing Agent, Task Force Officer and the nature of the interview, Inns provided the following information: When questioned why she thought AGENTS from the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) were at her residence, she responded "JEFFREY EPSTEIN". Imp immediately advised that she had counsel and she wanted to speak with her counsel before any questioning. was served the Grand Jury Subpoena. provided her attorney name, JOSEPH E NASCIMENTO, of Ross Amsel, Raben and Nascimento Law Firm, telephone number AGENTS immediately terminated the interview served 'lir with Grand Jury Subpoena. and witnessed the service of the Federal Grand Jury Subpoena. IOW provided the AGENTS with a Florida Driver's License as form of identification. date of birth a Federal was present 'mongolian on 07/06/2019 at Miami, Florida, United States (In Person) Aka 31E-NY-3027571 by moor 'I'll.- 0- Tits document coolants headier mamma:mons not conclusions of the FBI II u the many of me FIJI and is loaned to your ataxy; a and as eaalme ate not to be dishbated outside you agency Dale drafted 07/1B /2C19 3524-007 Page I of I SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9110, 15, and 17 EFTA00090774 FO.S02 (Rey s.lik) -1 of 11- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION 0 °mkt% 1#000no Dmedemq 11/26/2919 date of birth (DOE) was interviewed pursuant to a proffer agreement at Nest Palm Beach, Florida. Present for the interview was s a Conley Joseph Nascimento, along with AUSA , AUSA Special Agent I'm III'', and Detective M. IIIII. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agents and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: was born in Poland; she graduated high school in Poland. traveled as a model and arrived in the United States at the end of 2002. left Poland when she was approximately 29/20 years old. met het first husband, IIII, in Monaco. was a model on a television show called "Model Flat". had a connection with a model agency in Miami named "Elite Models'. helped ROSS; was a photographer and was a model. Some of the places modeled in were Taiwan and Miami, Florida. t had a friend who had a small CPA firm where she worked for approximately 2 to 2.5 years. worked at this CPA firm while working towards her associate's degree. married in approximately July 2003 and they divorced in approximately 2011. earned her associate's degree frog_ and her bachelor's degree in accounting and her master's degree in taxation from 1 . is presently the current manager in travels frequently for work and has been employed by them for approximately two years. is currently married to m. mit and became a United States citizen on May 17, 2019. left modeling when she took a job offered by JEFFREY EPSTEIN. started working for EPSTEIN in approximately 2005 and left in early 2006. traveled on trips with EPSTEIN to help as his assistant. A lawmpoieses 01/12/2019 g west Palm Math, rlorida, United Stares (In pa. reon) Hk# 3111-NY-3027571 Dalednited 01 /:2/:019 by AmAndA m1en14. YOung, KY RNK PAUL WILSON Ilte tamed coma= rater reoseneadstua Dar combats:at of the FBI /I u the properly oe'tbe FBI r d u loam:Rey= apecry no] gt <went re sei ph &tatted mauls vetu WISC. 3524-009 Page I of 11 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090775 FD-302a (Rev 5-8-10) 31E-NY-3027571 (U) Proffer or a a fomioweimofFDJMM Interview 4 1 R ski 07/12/2019 .hwe 2 of 11 trip co Paris in approximately early 2006 was her last assignment. Put in contact with an agent named PAOLO ZEMPOLI who worked with "ID Models". It was organized for IIIMIfft to go to New York to model. While in New York, lived in a model's apartment because she did not have the funds to pay for her own apartment. The apartment accommodated ten people and was on the same street as the model agency on Varick Street. MIIIMIR had an affair with the agent. ZEMPOLI was trying to buy Elite Models with EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN introduced MELANIA TRUMP to DONALD TRUMP. EPSTEIN was visiting ZEMPOLI at the agency when there were casting auditions for models. EPSTEIN was looking through portfolios and saw photograph of her wearing only swim bottoms. INININI and ZEMPOLI were at a night club with EPSTEIN, who was there with a woman who MENEM believed was SIM MIIIIIMP. IMMOMMOV took 'a phone number. Someone called, either a girl or EPSTEIN, and invited mommomp to dinner. went to EPSTEIN's residence on 71st Street in Manhattan. This was the first one on one interaction had with EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN made her wait; she heard him playing the piano. did not recall if she went upstairs. and EPSTEIN had dinner in the dining room. This room was straight ahead when you walked into his home. EPSTEIN asked what she liked to do. Mr told EPSTEIN that she liked studying and that she was a good student. They calked about travels and EMIR having a model contract in Japan and South Korea. 'gimp mentioned that she thought there was a lot of Russian prostitution. EPSTEIN told her, "That's what I like best." 'Imp recalled EPSTEIN saying something that made her uncomfortable. EPSTEIN gave a tour of the house, took her to the massage room and had hor lay down, took a "vibrating thing" and rubbed it on her. told him to stop. IIIIIMR described the massage room as a small, very dark room on the same floor as the master bedroom. A driver took home and she remembered being tearful in the car. The next morning or a day later, recalled that EPSTEIN called her. IIIIIII was unsure how everything progressed from there. EPSTEIN may have offered her an English class, which MIMI= attended. EPSTEIN offered 3524-009 Page ? of11 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090776 FD-1012 (Rev 54-10) 31E-NY-3027571 (U) Prosier of S co„,,ra,„„,„„rFD302 Interview 11 07/12/2019 ,R40 3 of 11 her a job approximately at the end of 2004. EPSTEIN offered .111111 an apartment in New York on 66th Street in Manhattan. E?STEIN offered a job with victoria's Secret, which was a photo shoot. EPSTEIN told that she needed to work out to be a model and told her to go to a specific gym. immismp had traveled to Florida with EPSTEIN on h s plane. 'gimp did not have a driver's license. gilt gimp went with mgr. to the floor of Wall Street on a trip organized by EPSTEIN. 'gimp met GHISLAINE MAXWELL at her house around the end of 2004. MAXWELL told to purchase items like toiletries prior to getting offered the job. The job responsibilities included running errands, and helping who was EPSTETN's personal assistant. la was 's immediate supervisor. MAXWELL gave MEW direction. had intimate relations with EPSTEIN, but did not have intercourse. EPSTEIN had multiple sexual encounters with Immisep. =mg' felt this was personal. mit described as having big brown eyes and chin length blonde hair. IIIIIMV helped I with errands, traveled with them, called pilots, and purchased things for EPSTEIN's plane. In Palm Beach, IONISE, answered calls and confirmed massage appointments. was given this responsibility shortly after beginning to work for EPSTEIN. Imp mainly stayed in Palm Beacn, while 's home was in Miami. Mien MIMS stayed in Palm Beach, she slept in EPSTEIN's house in one of the bedrooms. Typically, had to travel with EPSTEIN. When they traveled to EPSTEIN's island, stayed with him on the island. They traveled a lot to Boston, specifically visiting Harvard. They met with MARTIN NOVACK and ALAN DERSHOWITZ. iggiggp traveled to New Mexico and Paris with EPSTEIN. spent the most time in the Virgin Islands with EPSTEIN so EPSTEIN could count his time in the island to establish for tax residency. Other people that traveled regularly with EPS:EIN besides MAXWELL, 3524-009 Page 3 of I I SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090777 fn-342a (Rev 5444) 31E—NY-3027571 (U) Proffer of a aA f,,,,,,,,,,rm.302„( interview 41 R .n, 07/12/2019 4 of 11 , and Sal were Ssl, ISM NMI, SSA Ste, JEAN LUC BRUNEL, IGOR, and a chef. =Imo was EPSTEIN's girlfriend. 'lig 'mini had a casual relationship with EPSTEIN. was introduced by imp gigleggr. IGOR was EPSTEIN's personal trainer. In New York, gillimp ran errands, bought things, went to EPSTEIN's house and sat in on meetings. EmmEmmp worked in MAXWELL'S house on the ground floor in New York. limit was given an apartment in the same building as MAXWE1T" spent most of her time in New York at MAXWELL's home. glow did not recall it she had made phone calls from New York. LESLIE GROFF was EPSTEIN's assistant in EPSTEIN's Madison Avenue office who scheduled his appointments for people coming to his house, including massage appointments. GROFF made those phone calls to schedule appointments. Fairly early on after working for EPSTEIN, began helping schedule massage appointments. In reference to knowing what occurred during the massages, stated, "It happened to me in the Virgin Islands, so I assumed that was happening to everyone else during their massages." SS saw women in his New York house that she understood were there to give massages. emir was at his New York residence a lot and would bring other girls. Another girl named illir would also bring other girls. Ss brought two girls who were dancers/ballerinas, who stated that they were 16 years old. 'lilt' and O may have beer. there. EPSTEIN told them that he would buy them dancing shoes. At the time, was not sure if the girls who massaged EPSTEIN were underage but it seemed consensual and SS knew it was a sexual massage. 'MEW had MEMMEMP research girls on Twitter. One girl named III. was 17 in New York. Imp was approximately 21 years old. EPSTEIN's massages were approximately twice a day everyday in New York and Palm Beach. In New York, EPSTEIN also had a lot of meetings. met in approximately 2004. 'ming was roommate who may have assisted. 's 3524-009 Page 4 of I I SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090778 FD-302a (Rev 5-8-1M 31E-NY-302/571 101 Proffer of a andantino amain Interview 41 .0„ 07/12/2019 .Ng 5 of 11 In Palm Beach, was responsible for answering phones and confirming massage appointments if I wasn't around. EPSTEIN, as well as IIIIMP, would ask to do this. showed girls tO the massage room and set up the table for them. IIIIIII also bought tickets for comedy clubs for EPSTEIN. limit was also responsible for researching things for EPSTEIN and running errands. When traveling from New York to Palm Beach, Imp set up the schedule for massages or gave SINEW a list of people to call for appointments. IIIIIII may have called from New York to make appointments for Palm Beach, but mostly made those calls. Part of the regular routine for was to check in with EPSTEIN in the morning. EPSTEIN would be in his office, gym, or by the pool. would see who EPSTEIN wanted her to call; EPSTEIN gave her a list. III'S.' was someone EPSTEIN commented on. EPSTEIN commented on S's SAT score. massaged EPSTEIN and hung out at the Palm Beach house, then went to New York. EPSTEIN helped get 'III's; an internship. was told how to make calls and told what to say. When called to confirm appointments she said, "This is IIIIIII calling on behalf of Jeffrey Epstein...calling to confirm the massage appointment." EPSTEIN was upset when she used his name when confirming massage appointments. EPSTEIN told her to never use his name when calling people. On the calls, IIIIIII discussed what time they would come. EPSTEIN pushed her to call and confirm appointments. IIIIIms had to call multiple times to confirm appointments. 'Imp did not remember ever calling men to confirm massage appointments. EPSTEIN wanted III'S. to put eye cream on him. EPSTEIN became upset with her if she missed a day. If OININOR missed a phone call for a massage appointment, EPSTEIN became very upset. and left her a nasty voincemail. EPSTEIN raised his voice to thought that EPSTEIN was originally going to teach her about finance. EPSTEIN sent her to one to two business meetings but then was different after she started working for him. EPSTEIN became stressed with her, asking her, "Do you want to work?" when referring to her calling girls. 3524-009 Page 5 all SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090779 M-Wea ate 5-840) 31E -NY -302/571 (U) Proffer of R A foRtiRWORR amain Interview 11 mu 07/12/2019 J.,0, 6 of IA Immelet often called and asked the girls about another girl. asked her to do this. recalled calling mit and asked her to bring another girl. mit called and asked her to bring another girl. MM../ was upset with 'MOW because Millign called MINIV's home where her parents lived. Girls had mentioned to limit that they could not come because they had school. The girls would come in from the rear of the house, near the kitchen. swim offered them water. IIIIIIF told them to go upstairs. The massage room was attached to his master bathroom with sauna, steam room, and closet, with the massage table inside the closet. may have put a towel on the table. EPSTEIN told gignmeg to give the girls a hair band. was present one time when a girl massaged EPSTEIN. massaged EPSTEIN in Palm Beach. left during most massages, going about her tasks around the house. The massages took approximately an hour. Sometimes EPSTEIN called downstairs and sometimes during the massage he would call other people. gime knew the massage was done when the girl would come downstairs. EPSTEIN paid the girls; he always had a huge amount of money in his bag. He paid the girls approximately $200. and typically stayed a bit longer after the massage. If a girl brought another girl, one would go upstairs while the one who brought the girl hung our. downstairs. Me brought girls. EPSTEIN may have asked K to pay the girls for him. 'I'll.. was instructed to bring girls from Miami to Palm Beach; these girls were associated with Ideal Models. 'Imp talked about a time where one girl was sitting on the couch visibly upset and EPSTEIN had a friend who was a doctor there who told them that the girl did not feel well. EPSTEIN had a car service take the girl home. Palm Beach massages happened twice a day everyday. IIIIIIpt typed up a list of girls to call in Palm Beach and printed a few copies. threw these away. This list was specific to massages. 'Imp recalled one girl calling and talking about college. The girls were young women. 'gimp did not know their exact age. Thinking back on it, felt that she should have had the impression that they were 3524-009 Page 6 of SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090780 fli-N2a (Rev 54-10) 31E—NY-3027571 (U1 Proffer of a a Coeneweionorpoarta Interview 41 R sk, 07/12/2019 " ego 7 of ll underage. She was used to young women being around older men in the modeling industry. MIMS recalled , me, and traveling on EPSTEIN's plane from New York to Palm Beach. recalled other girls names that were at EPSTEIN's house, including IIIIIIMM. IIIIIMM. II and 'Iglu There were more girls but 'MIME could not recall all of their names. The girls were students, not models. Some may have been in a horse back riding club. The girls asked for assistance to go to college. may have had a personal relationship in the past with EPSTEIN but R had not heard anything. assumed because EPSTEIN was always with a girl. took a lot of photographs. took photographs of in the Virgin Islands. EPSTEIN had told that it was Ok to undress. There were a lot of nude photographs in EPSTEIN's home. There were also nude photographs in the gym in the New York house. In Palm Beach, was in the living room and started stripping when Imp started taking photographs. kept the photographs in binders in MAXWELL's house. felt that took advantage of her because she had do "nasty tasks" and had her constantly running. felt that made her do the heavy li±ting. and were friendly with each other but did not like how I treated her. When called to confirm appointments, she sometimes left a voicemail with her cell number for a call back. could not remember if she and talked about what happened with the massages or if made comments about the girls. In the Virgin Islands, they would travel to the island by boat. §§§§§Mft had to give EPSTEIN massages. A girl named IIIIIMON would come Lo Lhe island to give EPSTEIN massages. In the morning, MEOW would go to his office. There were different beach huts on the island. EPSTEIN would take a golf cart around the island. EPSTEIN worked out a lot on the island. When they 3524-009 Page 7 of I I SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090781 FD-302. (Rev 5-8-10; 31E-NY-3027571 (u) Proffer Of a a a ComMmimeofFDJO2of Interview #1 07/12/20:9 Jon,: 8 of 11 were on the island, it was more leisure time. There was a room by the kitchen where they all watched TV. Some of 's tasks included researching things online and making online purchases. There was a house manager who would ask people about allergies and they would have to fill out a card. Other tasks was responsible for were buying furniture. was also instructed to buy sex toys from a sex shop in New York, but could not recall who had told her to buy them. thought the sex toys she had to buy were vibrators. recalled having to go to some building with an upstairs. In Palm Beach, 'gimp ordered books for a girl. The books were not sent in time and EPSTEIN was upset with . MISR thought the books may have been for 11.1. stayed more in the house. DAVID COPPERFIELD was at the house one time and 'lir may have met him. Egg' was one of the girls who came for massages. EMMEN told MENEM. to get gge a tutor. EPSTEIN wanted to give ming more. IIII may have brought a picture of her artwork. Milli and brought girls. purchased a lot of gifts for MI's baby. thought MS was older but was unsure how old Ns was. When IIIIIMP traveled with EPSTEIN to New Mexico, it was a long drive to the house. It was a big house with a guest house. glimp felt that she was likely doing the to do list from New York. IIIIIMP had to give EPSTEIN facials. There was horse back riding with disclaimers. 'gimp recalled that they barely traveled to New Mexico; they were maybe there twice. Somtimes there was a chiropractor who came after the massages and girls would get adjustments. mow was paid every two weeks. Her starting salary was $36,000 and eventually was paid approximately $40,000 - $41,000. The individuals who traveled with EPSTEIN, including Imp and were given massages. ALAN DERSHOWITZ received a massage from =gm's' - she had a tattoo. .111111.1, and gigging Egli'', gave massages. lg.= understood these massages to be more professional massages. These massages 3524-009 Page 8 of II SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090782 Fn-1022 (Rev 5-8-10 31E —NY —3027571 11.11 Protect'. of S comi„asimo(Frianot. Interview II O„ 07/12/2019 ,pas, 9 of ii were different than the massages the girls gave. gmlIggp did not think the girls were professional masseuses. immeggr was EPSTEIN's girlfriend. mow heard them exchange "I love you". I was a model. • was associated with Karin Models and/or MC2. 'III'. was under the impression that EPSTEIN was a co-owner. eggigggio traveled with EPSTEIN and did not. model. O slept in the bedroom with EPSTEIN. went back to modeling when she needed to renew her visa. and had an intimate relationship. =NW talked about a time where LARRY SUMMERS was sitting in the waiting room and having a lengthy meeting with EPSTEIN. IIIII§k saw ggigggsp, who looked like she came from an event, and told her that she had been looking for girls. =gm described and EPSTEIN's relationship as a strong love relationship. stated there was no alcohol around uniess a guest wanted it. IIIIIII resigned from working for EPSTEIN. mop did not want to be around EPSTEIN anymore. felt that there was something weird going on with the complete situation. It took §§§§§§11 a while to make the decision to quit. IIIIIIR stated they used a citrix based system. LESLIE GROFF put messages in the system. These were messages that were on the computer in New York. They eventually stopped using this system. There were small directory books. Phone books were outdated. There were print outs of messages. In approximately October 2005, IIIIIMP. MINIS. and EPSTEIN flew to Miami. En, along with her dog she traveled with, went to house. EPSTEIN went with and NM later met up with them at Soho House in Miami Beach. 'gimp dropped off egggr and was told to go to Palm Beach to meet with someone. EPSTEIN told that something was stolen and gems had to travel to give computers to be examined. The person met was alone. This happened the day before birthday. EPSTEIN and egg'. told 'gime to take the books, which were personal contact phonebooks - the black ones were MAXWELL's and the colorful ones were EPSTEIN's. could not remember if she took both. There were a lot of books by each phone. These were copy pads that people would put messages on and tear out to give to EPSTEIN. There were also white pads with 3524-009 Page()Orli SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090783 F1)-3010 (Rev 5-840) 31E—NY-302/571 (U) Proffer of a A Continumen ofFD-302:e Interview 11 me 07/12/2019 ,pwe 10 of 1: EPSTEIN and MAXWELL'S names throughout the houses. JANUSZ BANASIAK helped gather the items together. There was a computer that 'SEIM and 'EISEN used, EPSTEIN's computer, and potentially MAXWELL'S computer that they collected. turned these items over to a person that seemed to be a law enforcement type person. She took an inventory of things that she gave to this individual, who she believed to be DETECTIVE BLACK. There was a specific computer that and t used in Palm Beach. recalled a girl saying something about social profiles. also asked 'Imp to bring books from the Virgin Islands and meet her in MAXWELL's office. NIEMEN told to shred an updated list of names of girls. IIIIII had a notebook with the investigative agency sticker on it. EPSTEIN told that there was an investlgatiOn and that It had something to do with visas. EPSTEIN told IIIIIIR that they were asking about her parents. EPSTEIN had surprised IIIIIMP with a visit from her parents. knew that EPSTEIN was lying about how her parents got their visas. recalled a time where she was on the island and EPSTEIN told her, "Do you see the camera? They're watching me". III'S. did not recall how she had learned about the actual reason for the initial investigation. KPSTKIN's counsel called her into his office and told her not to talk to law enforcement. In approximately October 2005, Millint resigned to . MINION took it as a joke. had called her about an issue with MAXWELL; Millie cried and told that she did not want to be there. 4.1.1.1 gave notice, but still worked for EPSTEIN until early 2006. EPSTEIN promised Mille a car. IIIIIII told him to cancel giving her the car. EPSTEIN gave a car, which she kept and it stayed in her name. felt that she had to stay in contact with EPSTEIN because the car was in his name and was under his insurance. In Early 2008, contacted either GROFF or someone else and asked to return the car. mill= and her husband drove to Palm Beach to return the car. 3524-009 Page Mall SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090784 FD-3O2a(Rev 54-10) 31E—NY-3O2/571 (U) Proffer of A Gyminwman or man of Interview 41 07/12/2019 .hw, 11 of 1: After IIIIIMP left, MINIM approached her at Club Monaco and asked her if she wanted to come to the Virgin Islands to work. told her no. Attorneys reached out to IIIIIIR asking questions. There was a woman in New York named S that reached out, and told her that her attorney was BRYCE LYONS. milk called the office asking if she could speak to LYONS. IIIIIII thought. FBI agents may want to talk with her. spoke with an FBI agent and she told the agent to call her attorney. later hired her own attorney. IIIIIIR saw EPSTEIN looking at pornography on the computer that she and used. EPSTEIN said that porn websites have the best poses for models. EPSTEIN said that he did not have an email address but he did. Email addresses that EPSTEIN used were jepstein@yahoo.com and joepstein@yahoo.com. IIIIIIR saw an email of pictures of girls that EPSTEIN said were ugly. told MINIM to send photographs of girls to JEAN LUC BRUNEL for the purposes of casting/scouting for his agency. EPSTEIN did not carry a cell phone. EPSTEIN would take one of their cell phones and dial who he wanted. INIMMIF has received random Calls and texts from New York numbers. When she left EPSTEIN's employment, she felt fearful that someone was following her. Not all details were covered during this interview. ISM= agreed to meet again at another date. 3524-009 Page I I of I I SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090785 rfit010trt sttio) -1 of 12- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Dm *fancy 03/31/2020 .....,. .•_ , date of birth (DOB) was interviewed pursuant to a proffer agreement at West Palm Beach, Florida. Present for the interview Wes =III:. attorney Joseph Nesciment.o, along with AUSA , AUSA , and Special Agent I'm 'III!. After being advised of the identities of the above listed individuals and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: spoke about two messages she recalled writing down. One cf which had identifier SA03008 on the message pad dated 4/1/05. This message was from JEAN LUC BRUNEL and read, "He has a teacher for you to teach you how to speak Russian. She is 2x6 years old not blunde. Lessons are free and you can have 1st today if you call." knew this to mean it referenced a teenage girl. wrote this message. GHISLAINE MAXWELL was in the house and stated, "Oh, this is a funny message". Either MAXWELL made rewrite it or MAXWELL rewrote it herself. The message meant that there was a potential teenage girl for EPSTEIN to meet. The other message had identifier SA01446 on the message pad dated 2/28/05. This message referenced school. remembered taking this call. did not know the name, but knew the call was in reference to scheduling a massage. would have used the initial "II" when initialing her name back then. MEI saw on Twitter that ALAN DERSHOW:TZ stated that he was with his wife and kids when he was at EPSTETN's hone. mat DERSHOWTTZ and he was alone in the house with no wife and no kids when he received a massage. was shown a series of copies of messages and asked about her recollection of each, all of which are attached in a 1A. 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IIIIIII thought that had been volunteering building a house in Costa Rica or something similar. In the New York residence, there was a gift left from MEM; it was a female picture of her bottom. MEM abruptly left. had heard stories that she was throwing up, had an eating disorder, and she had lied. MIIIIIMP traveled to Puerto Rico because IIIII was pregnant and 11111111 was helping • met ms 's older sister milli., known to law enforcement as on EPSTEIN's island. gligimp thought MEM was of age. MEMMEW did not have much interaction with 'gimp. recognized MESSAGES - Page 3 in the news recently. i recognized the name ".......1". EPSTEIN came downstairs with milger thought gam was present. mow recalled iggimmy telling a story of driving fast and being pulled over by the police and her dad had to get her. MESSAGES - Page 4 The upper left message, with the name On it, Ill'''. thought may have been written by l had "loopy" handwriting. In reference to the message with MARK EPSTEIN on it, at the time EPSTEIN had a disagreement with his brother about a hospital bill or something similar. MESSAGES - Page 5 3524-011 Page 2 of 12 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090787 Fn-302a(lkev 54-10) SOD-NY-3027571 comemiteurfo-Bnor (U) Proffer of a a JAI 09/10/2019 .pnv 3 of 17 MINIM recognized the name "NOMMEr", known to law enforcement as gimp 'gig'', as one of EPSTE1N's attorneys in New York. imeggp recognized the name and stated that it could be mow amp or a different . flew on EPSTEIN' s plane from New York to Palm Beach. The other had a neck injury. MESSAGES - Page 6 ▪ did not recognize the names on these messages. MESSAGES - Page 7 SINEW recognized the name " gligmt- and thought it could be egging' Egging.. M§§§§§§V recruited girls in New York. MIIIIIMV traveled with JEAN LUC BRUNEL to Russia. gigging/ shared an apartment with egging. imp who had stated that she was helping V find girls. 'gimp talked about HENRY JARECKI as someone EPSTEIN thought of as a friend. §§§§§§1R heard that he had a girlfriend named " ". saw a picture online of JARECKI with and MESSAGES - Page 8 The messages are titled "Mr. Epstein". The house staff was more formal. Everyone in his personal life referred to EPSTEIN as "Jeffrey". MESSAGES - Page 9 The message with "Eggggsr" on it, thought was in reference to 011111./. remembered ell'''. did not remember Y had a girl with her or not. Koriginally thought the messages were written by but on closer look did not think it was her because the number "7" in the messages was written in a very European way. MESSAGES - Page 10 Message pad with "Jeffrey E. Epstein" on it. EPSTEIN had these notepads with his name on them throughout all of his different residences. These 3524-011 Page 3 of 12 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090788 PD-3022(Rev 50D-NY-3027571 Coolinuation of FD-302 or ) Proffer of a a a On 09/1C/2079 pyye 4 of 12 notepads were kept stored in New York. MAXWELL had notepads with her name on them as well. There were also notepads with "Little St. James" or "Little St. Jeff" on them. The name nigger on the notepad could have been a girl who massaged EPSTEIN. 'Imp remembered wanting to speak to EPSTEIN about college. MESSAGES - Page 11 thought the writing of these messages could have been hers. engine would leave messages in the kitchen for him and/or the transitional pantry area. MESSAGES - Page 12 mow recognized these messages as her own handwriting. engine was told to confirm appointments. lei see was an individual who traveled with EPSTEIN. giiiiige and lime gave messages to 'giggle, or whoever was traveling with EPSTEIN. MESSAGES - Page 13 =III' did not recognize the handwriting of these messages. MESSAGES - Page 14 Nigger recognized the name as the girl who was pregnant. mile recognized the name ' as the girl that had a neck injury who also traveled from New York to Palm Beach. MESSAGES - Page 15 limit recognized these messages as her handwriting. gees was either confirming the massage appoinLrents or this was a to-do list on who to call. MESSAGES - Page 16 limp did not recognize the handwriting, but did state that she felt it was someone with a European background due to the way the number 7 was 3524-011 Page 4 of 12 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090789 FD-302a (Rev Ma 0) 50D-NY-3023571 ContintetimollTD-3020( (U) Proffer of S written. A 0A 09/10/2019 m e, 5 of I2 Both EPSTEIN and MAXWELL's stationary was in different places throughout the houses. MAXWELL'S stationary was by a large desk that she used or was in an area near the computer. When in New York preparing to travel to Palm Beach, fl would be the one who would primarily call to schedule massages. I'll.. gave MINIM a list of things to do. EPSTEIN wanted to confirm the night before or the morning of a scheduled massage. EPSTEIN would be in front of the computer in Palm Reach or his island when he gave a list of things to do and people to call. Sometimes EPSTEIN would let sit on meetings and LESLEY GROFF would be there in New York. was trained on how to make calls from le. reported directly to gill.; gave 'Imp a list on traveling to Palm Beach and pieces of paper to confirm massage appointments. 'Ellie kept papers in the desk she used but later they were gone. thought 1111.1 had gotten rid of them. milli recalled a girl named who EPSTEIN wanted to find help for her SAT. Imp tasked 'III'. for baby purchases for III.. mmommm, would call a person and ask about someone else to massage EPSTEIN. thought she recalled asking this person about a specific name of someone else. did not remember ever asking if they knew other girls. was always told who to call or who to ask about. MINIM remembered IOW, known to law enforcement as IIIIV ISOM. NEW would come with other girls, and would stay in the kitchen or downstairs while the other girl would massage. remembered with other girls, but did not remember specifics. 'III'. did not remember specific examples but thought she saw payments. EPSTEIN grabbed cash and went upstairs during massage sessions. There were piles of $100 dollar bills. money was put back in a duffel bag. In Palm Beach and on the island, the duffel bag was kept by EPSTEIN's desk. In Palm Beach, the desk was in the living room near the bookshelf. EPSTEIN had a cabana desk. 3524-011 Page 5 of 12 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090790 FD-302.0wv3-8-101 SOD-NY-3027571 ca s ilionurny302 of (U) Proffer of a a aR .on C9/10/2019 . p,40, 6 of 17 MINNOW was given $1000 in petty cash. 'glow had to type up a report to account for it. IMMIllp then gave this report to the accountant. mit had a feeling that she had knowledge that both girls, the one who brought the girl and the one who gave the massage, were both paid. mow did not remember exactly though. MIIONOF recalled there were two girls named INN, one in Palm Beach and one in Florida. The MOW in Palm Beach stayed around more. In and a girl named mow would often stay behind and chat. IOW brought another friend, who thought was named This friend was into photography and brought a flower picture. list talked with DAVID COPPERFIELD once. INIF would chat with EPSTEIN. and EPSTEIN would also be in the kitchen. 'lir was trying to get into college in using a SAT tutor. When R was working in the New York office in MAXWELL's townhouse, 'Imp was told to look into it getting Illr a tutor. IIIIIIM needed to buy books for Ilir or her friend and ship them. The books did not arrive in time and EPSTEIN became really upset with When IIIIMMON was on the island, there was a stationary computer she used and saw a quick glance of the Palm Beach fl 's social media. EPSTEIN gave books r.c mmEmmER. These books included Women are from Venus, Men are from Mars, Stocks for Dummies, and a book about a woman's cycle and body. gave milli a book called Story of Old. §§§§§§g recalled being in a BARNES AND NOBLE with EPSTEIN in New York and Palm Beach. IIIIIIt could have picked books up when ordering. In Palm Beach, when girls stayed and talked, they also received adjustments from a female chiropractor. In New York, III.= remembered a girl named Milli, known to law enforcement as MIMEO who was a model with a good agency. Milli showed shoes she received from EPSTEIN as a gift. would come and see EPSTEIN. IIIIIIt thought was a young model around 17 years old. traveled to New Mexico and Palm Beach. giggirt recalled a time where LARRY SOMMERS was visiting at the time in EPSTEIN's New York house. There was a very long meeting with EPSTEIN in the upstairs living room. was helping serve drinks and food. recalled being in EPSTEIN's New York house in the waiting room, which was to 3524-011 Page 6 of12 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090791 En-302a (Rev 5-8-I0) SOD-NY-302/571 Collimation of FD-302 ef (U) Proffer of a la the left when entering the house, when dressed as though she had come from an she was looking for girls for EPSTEIN. 'Imp said they found pornography or Isms recalled a time where PRINCE There was a young ballerina dancer that to PRINCE ANDREW. Imp thought this was not sure. Ahl 09/10/2019 A.RN 7 of I? O came in. I was event. mow told mow that O also helped find a chef and something similar. ANDREW had breakfast with EPSTEIN. curtsied when EPSTEIN introduced her girl was introduced by imp., but 'gimp had a sexual encounter with EPSTEIN and O. was going to the GYN and the GYN asked about sexual partners. In the car, R told EPSTEIN and disclose. Jeffrey has". O and told O that she had to O said something like, 'What about all of the girls that In New York, was always with EPSTEIN. New York was home base. Palm Beach was home base. mow had a studio apartment at 301 East. 66L" Street. Pilots also stayed at this location and O had an apartment at this location as well. did not recall having meals together with EPSTEIN and others in Palm Beach. While on the island, things were more scheduled and meals were shared together. EPSTEIN would snack as opposed to sit down for meals. In New York, they ate out more and when it was around six or seven in the evening she would go home to her apartment. In in EPSTEIN's house on the second floor. towards the front of the street. Occasionally, too. Palm Beach, MINIMMIF stayed stayed above the garage stayed in this room took photographs of lolling. lolls' cataloged all the photographs and kept them in MAXWELL'S townhouse where they worked. There was a MaC computer with a large printer. III'', had a laptop. 'INNEN had large binders to organize the photographs. There were a lot of nude photographs of women posing in each of his houses. IIIIImp thought that she had a camera because she remembered taking photographs of EPSTEIN's goddaughter imp imp and EPSTEIN playing chess. ggmgmit remembered she and Eggs, taking photos at the pool, but did not remember who took the photos. limit did not remember taking nude photographs. 3524-011 Page 7 of 12 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090792 FD-101a (Rev 54-10) Conon SOD-NY-302'1571 mon:D.302a IU) Proffer of A .0„ 09/10/7019 8 of I? met MAXWELL because EPSTEIN tasked to buy toiletries for guests staying at the 301 661h Street location. came to learn that MAXWELL was EPSTEIN's former girlfriend. MAXWELL bought furniture around the world for EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN delivered the news of MAXWEI.L's father's death. MAXWELL gave instruction to house managers. §§§§§§ft remembered Seeing MAXWELL in Palm Beach and on the island, but saw her a lot more in New York. In Palm Beach, EPSTEIN had a large bedroom with two bathrooms. MAXWELL had her belongings in his houses and closets. MAXWELL told gilligp to do things and tasks. Emigre did not like MAXWELL and tried to avoid her. MAXWELL was not a nice person. MAXWELL always had the house manager in tears. milling thought the house manager was from the Philippines and had twins or young kids. MEMMEMER NW and EMMEN LNU worked for MAXWELL. DOYLE was an assistant who worked at the house and imp worked out of the New York office. There was a setup of three desks at the office. seemed close with MAXWELL. EPSTEIN gifted Immogy with a fur coat that was kept at MAXWELL'S house. gimp worked for EPSTEIN. iggiggp worked for limp, with EPSTEIN as her overall boss. MAXWELL participated in threesomes when EPSTEIN was her boyfriend. recalled a time in New Mexico where she traveled to a spa and MAXWELL said, "Oh if you find a pretty girl, get her number and she can give a massage to EPSTEIN". MAXWELL was a very strong person. egging' recalled a time where she traveled to Florida and her phone was not working. gigging called DOYLE to connect her to MAXWELL. had to talk to about MAXWELL being upset because took up MAXWELL' s assistant's time. In Palm Beach, called and scheduled massage appointments for EPSTEIN. This seemed like a regular activity. :n New York, GROFF scheduled massage appointments; R did not schedule in New York. &PSTEIN received massages twice a day everyday. es would also have to schedule and confirm massage appointments. EPSTEIN would tell them that MAXWELL could get something if they could not because MAXWELL was persuasive. mit came across as condescending to EPSTEIN would tell imp how ungrateful she was in not saying thank you. EPSTEIN said something similar to 'lilt when she received a haircut and did not say thank you to EPSTEIN. was told to tell IM to pack up and leave the apartment. gigs told EPSTEIN that she would never get an abortion and EPSTEIN asked what if the baby had Down Syndrome or she was raped. EPSTEIN 3524-011 Page 8 of 12 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090793 FD-302a(Ref 54-10 50D-NY-302/571 Cmakkationormymed (U) Proffer of a D9/10/2019 ANN 9 of 12 liked to play mind games. On the island, 4 was sick with a fever, when EPSTEIN came in the room and said, "Wake up lazy fuck". On one of MIIIIMA's days off, EPSTEIN left her a message and he was very upset. EPSTEIN made her sit on the floor and do a pedicure. EPSTEIN obsessed about putting on his eye cream; if she missed a day he would get upset. There was a time on the island where EPSTEIN said that despite the guy being married, he was gay. EPSTEIN said this gentleman needed to spend more time with mow and mt. This man's wife was DIANE VON FURSTENBERG. EPSTEIN called 'gimp a Polish Nazi. On the island and in New Mexico, along with one time in Palm Beach, would have to give a massage and it would lead to sexual contact with EPSTEIN. Another girl, ggggggsr, also gave massages. eggiggp recalled a time where KATHY, the house manager, asked her to come downstairs. EPSTEIN asked 'limp to run him a bath. N was in the room topless. =gm+ touched 'gimp. There was a time where was asked to travel to Boston. EPSTEIN often went to HARVARD. thought the trip there was a short flight on his Gulfstream. The bed was made. When there was nudity and a sexual encounter, EPSTEIN wanted to have sex and if said no, he stopped. Other times, was involved in the sexual encounters and initiated them. The sexual encounters were predominantly associated with massages. In IIIIIIr's mind she did not want to do it but went along with it. There was a very strange situation that happened on the plane when EPSTEIN grabbed 'III'. by the neck and shook her hard. =IOW did not remember EPSTEIN being forceful with the sexual encounters. 'III= was 20/21 years old and stated that it was consensual. EPSTEIN sometimes told that she had massaging duty. was confused that this was part of her role. 'gimp did not see ...IL give massages. EPSTEIN flew parents in as a surprise. IIIIIr was not happy with this because he had access to her parents. At a prior time, EPSTEIN and milimp talked about her Polish background and EPSTEIN had said the last name of her grandmother. mow knew at this point he had done research on her family and background. A Department of State Agent BEN WOLF flew on EPSTE:N's plane and asked 3524-011 Pagc90f12 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090794 FD-302a (Rev 5-810 SOD- NY- 302/5n Contention o(FD-302e( (U) Proffer Of a a Ai DRY10/2019 .p v. ID of 12 who all of the girls were. EPSTEIN told MI'S that she should ask WOLF about her immigration status. EPSTEIN also told her to talk to INDYKE, but INDYKE could not help. EPSTEIN first told IIIIIII that she had massage duty when they were or. his Island together. could not recall how it progressed to sexual contact. felt the sexual encounter with 0 was planned. initiated the contact with EPSTEIN and • a had approximately five encounters with the two of them together. EPSTEIN joked that 'Immo was his gay girlfriend. There was one time where EPSTEIN was not present and initiated sexual contact. gave I'M a massage. 'gime also gave a massage to a girl who flew into the island. Emmet did not know this girl's name. Emmy. met this girl at St. Batts, where this girl was a sales associate. This girl did not look underage to flew this girl in. talked about a conversation with EPSTEIN in which he talked with her about keeping men happy. IIIIIII took this as flirting or giving sexual favors. 'immix did not respond. EPSTEIN introduced the IMF to EPSTEIN introduced as his cousin to them and to other people. When looked up the word "cousin" in slang, it meant prostitute. IIIIIII was upset by this. She felt that EPSTEIN was propositioning her. There was a time where they flew into Aspen and LES WEXNER and other girls went shopping. They gestured to R and she thought they were talking about her. ANDREW FARKAS introduced a Sultan from Dubai to EPSTEIN. was there on the phone with and EPSTEIN telling her what to say. lived in New York. EPSTEIN was telling her not to think about it t . . They were going to the hotel to meet up. This was in New York. They were all in the ear with IIII driving. IIIIIIIR thought that she had met IIIIF and saw her in New York. gilliggR described as Middle Eastern. milli talked about a time when EPSTEIN, , and illip with her dog, flew into Miami. met them at a meeting point and was asked to entertain egg', while EPSTEIN and went somewhere else. They were all 3524-011 Page lOoll2 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090795 FD-102a (Rev 54-10) SOD—NY- 302./571 Conlin ul offD4020( 1U) Prof for of A .0 0 09/10/70P9 1 of 12 standing in front of a building. EPSTEIN had helped with her Soho house in Miami Beach. EPSTEIN told that she could be a real estate agent. EPSTEIN had meet up with a developer/architect. told that she had to drive to meet someone in Palm Beach. EPSTEIN told a that something would happen with her visa, but did not remember everything about this. R thought something had happened to EPSTEIN's detriment. 'mow gave Bosom the number of the person suoposed to meet. a was rushing there. JANUSZ BANASIAZ gentleman, PAUL, were there. They were grabbing computers and R was to follow up with the gentleman on when to get the They were to be given to someone named DETECTIVE BLACK and to be returned when he was done with them. gave the computers and notebooks to PAUL. BANASIAK found more books. called PAUL or he was still there and she gave them to him. thought that the instruction came from because she gave the phone number. a thought they then traveled on to the island. she was and another notebooks. items back. After this, asked bring them back from the island. locations and huts. New York and gave them to island she went with EPSTEIN and other times she flew from Miami Lo Puerto Rico to the Virgin Islands. There was a °river that took her from the marina by boat. was a printout of a more recent copy. had told to shred it in MAXWELI's house. recalled having a feeling that it was all strange. to gather books on the island and to reminded to go in all the brought these items back from the island and to . Sometimes when Imlimp traveled to the gave the books to in MAXWELL's house. There mit recalled in EPSTEIN's duffel bag he kept a tape recorder. saw it on and turned it off. In the beginning of 2006, saw EPSTEIN reach for the tape recorder and slip it into his bathrobe. The initial promise EPSTEIN made Lo was for her Lo work for him, :earn things like stocks and the business worlo. Working for EPSTEIN was stressful for the verbal assaults grew and she never felt good working for him. UMW told low that she was resigning. glom did not take her seriously. AL the time, EPSTEIN's accountant resigned, and she told EPSTEIN that she had resigned too. did not think EPSTEIN took her seriously either. received calls from them in 2006. 3524-011 Page I I of 12 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090796 FD-301a (Rev 54-10) 50D-NY-302/571 omuregionurro-And (U) Proffer of IMMIle R .0n UR/10/2019 .PaEx 12 of 12 traveled to Paris with them, where UMW met with a former boyfriend. IMIMMOn then traveled to Poland. EPSTEIN asked her to go to Dubai but she did not go. EPSTEIN told her they did not need passports, which thought was strange. milt recalled a Cuba trip where kissed FIDEL CASTRO's cheek. was called in by INDYKE, who told her that if she ever needed help to contact him and never talk to the police. IIIIIIR recalled feeling that something was off. EPSTEIN had a tape recorder and recalled him asking if she ever beat someone up. EPSTEIN also said to her, "Oh you don't enjoy fooling around with and me". MIIIIIR recalled when EPSTEIN initiated the sexual encounters, telling her that this is what her job was all along. c felt that once EPSTEIN flipped, she knew that she could not scream or say no. knew that EPSTEIN had a gun by the bed. R recalled feeling that she had no where to go because she was on the island. knew EPSTEIN had guns. EPSTEIN gave imp a gun once for safety purposes. minim remembered the time where the gun was taken. 3524-011 Page 12 of 12 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090797 FD-302(Rev 5-8401 SOD-NY-3027571 Serial 637 -1 of 8- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Datedrentry 09/17/2021 iggimp, date of birth (DOB)-, was interviewed pursuant to a proffer agreement via video conference. Present for the interview was ms 's attorney Joseph Nascimento, along with Assistant United States Attorneys MEW OMR, MEM ...MENEM, MEWED MIMEO, Special Agent momm. Imp, and Detective ego ammor. After being advised of the identity of the above listed individuals and the nature of the interview, SMIMMIft provided the following information: 'Imp was managed by Illir mime was gimp's assistant. MS was a "runner" who ran errands. eiggimp, igliggp, and Nogg worked out of GHISLAINE MAXWELL's home. When Mir was first hired by JEFFREY EPSTEIN, she was given more informal tasks while she was modeling. One of her first tasks was to go to MAXWELL'S house, where MAXWELL gave her a list of items, like toiletries to pick up for the 301 66th Street address. was EPSTEIN's assistant. saw working with MAXWELL as well. Some relationships were more formal and "office like", but gmmEmpi and MAXWELL's relationship was more friendly. Tasks that MAXWELL gave to were errands like buying shampoo and shirts for her and wanting to clean the office. In New York, the office inside MAXWELL's house was small with three desks. gimp shared a desk with MAXWELL. MAXWELL spent time at EPSTEIN's other residents. mow recalled the strange message she received from JEAN LUC BRUNEL. 's English was not great at the time. MAXWELL thought the message was funny. MAXWELL either assisted or directed in how to write the message. had always felt a bit intimidated by MAXWELL. MAXWELL's attitude came across that she was better than everyone else. EMS was uncomfortable around MAXWELL and limited her time around her. kiw.mplimm 05/14/2021 al Hes 50D-NY-3027571 by New York, New York, United States (, Other (Video)) Ilaiedrafled 05/14/2021 This document COO131fli neither lta41111MICIIIIOllinor conclusions or the FBI It is the property orate FBI and is loaned to your agency: d and as COMMI3 are not to be dist ibuted outside your agency 3524-013 Page 1 of8 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090798 PD-302s (Rev 54101 SOD-NY-3027571 Serial 637 50D-NY-30215/1 Conthitgition of FD.302or 1U1 Proffer of .0, 05/19/2021 .fts, 2 of 9 MAXWELL overlooked everything with EPSTEIN. MAXWELL and EPSTEIN seemed to have a family like relationship. was aware that MAXWELL and EPSTEIN used to date. was also aware that the house MAXWELL lived in in New York used to belong Co EPSTEIN. In EPSTEIN's houses, MAXWELL had a bedroom and an office. In. Palm Beach, MAXWELL's office was a small room above the kitchen. In EPSTEIN's master bedroom, he had two bathrooms where the one to the left was where the massages took place, and the other room had a large closet where saw MAXWELL's clothes hanging. a recalled chat in New Mexico MAXWELL had a bedroom. IIIIIIr thought it may have been I who mentioned MAXWELL'S bedroom because She was assigning bedrooms. recalled had stayed in MAXWELL's bedroom in New Mexico. At every one of EPSTEIN's properties, MAXWELL acted almost like an owner; people treated her like an owner. spent approximately l5-20W of the time around MAXWELL. While in Palm Beach, is home was in proximity so she would get time off; she would not always be around EPSTEIN's house. was mostly there at the Palm Beach residence. recalled traveling with MAXWELL approximately 15-20% of the time. recalled traveling to New Mexico with MAXWELL twice. recalled traveling to Aspen with EPSTEIN and MAXWELL. gime and EPSTEIN went to see LES WEXNER. Mir recalled MAXWELL being there with a group of women and chewing them out. recalled when a new house manager, JANUSZ BANASIAK, started in Palm Beach and brought in fresh flowers, MAXWELL was impressed. IMMINft remembered a time where MAXWELL questioned her on the ice in the water she was taking to EPSTEIN, asking if the ice was made from Evian. While in Palm Beach, EPSTEIN received two massages a day. If OMEN= traveled with EPSTEIN, sometimes would call from New York to set up the massages. 's job was to reconfirm with them. would sometimes send the initial schedule and would call. EPSTEIN then wanted to confirm and reconfirm with them; she would have to call in the evening and then the next morning. did not recall MAXWELL confirming massages. ALFREDO RODRIGUE2 may have confirmed massages. When was asked if she was aware of MAXWELL's knowledge of EPSTEIN 3524-013 Page 2 of 8 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090799 FD-302s (Rev 54-I0) SOD-NY-3027571 Serial 637 50D-NY-30275/1 continuation ofrv.302 or WI Proffer of .0, 05/14/2021 ,Patc 3 of 9 getting massages, she replied yes. In general, it was common knowledge EPSTEIN had two massages a day. talked about a time in New Mexico where EPSTEIN treated them to an outside location spa facility. MAXWELL told limit they needed to find a pretty masseuse for EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN sent MAXWELL, and possibly I'm' to a spa facility where each of them were to be treated to a massage. MAXWELL said the masseuse for EPSTEIN must be pretty and must be good at massage. MAXWF.LI. said this to the group. The phone books were contact address books. The pastel colored books were EPSTEIN's books while the black small books were MAXWELL's books. There was a section for massage contacts in them. EPSTEIN noted once that when he and MAXWELL dated that MAXWELL would bring more girls for threesomes, saying they were sexual relationships. did not recall when or where EPSTEIN said this to her. EPSTEIN told et that MAXWELL brought him girls. As of the date of this interview, 's impression was that this was for sexual activities. It surprised that MAXWELL would bring other girls in for sex. When EPSTEIN told this she did not think that was something MAXWELL would do. MEM recalled MAXWELL dating other men. described MAXWELL as "high end and sophisticated" and did not think "those types" of people would do that. EPSTEIN's expectations were when he had girlfriends they would have to bring other girls in. When illir A dated EPSTEIN they brought in for sex and she told that she IMMOMMEMMWO had to find other girls for EPSTEIN. When IMMEMER was asked about what she said in a prior interview about MAXWELL participating in threesomes, replied that she was talking about what she just referenced in regards to EPSTEIN telling that MAXWELL participated in threesomes. At the time worked for EPSTEIN from 2004-2006 she did not get a sense that he and MAXWELL were still in a romantic relationship. thought they were in a relationship years prior to working for them. MS took a lot of photographs, some of them of OMMIllp. described them as "model type" photographs possibly for Victoria's Secret. was in jeans and a tank top on the island along the beach. ImmEnt 3524-013 Page 3 of 8 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090800 FD-302siftey SOD-NY-3027571 Serial 637 500—NY-302Th/1 codenumicmorne.mor 10) Proffer of 0, 05/14/2021 par 4 of 8 asked her to take off her top and bra, telling that EPSTEIN said it was ok. These types of photographs of other girls were on display all over EPSTEIN's houses. These photographs were kept in large binders at MAXWELL's house. They were in thumbnail form with Compact Disk's (CD) attached. There was a large commercial printer at MAXWELL's New York house where the thumbnails were printed; thought this was possibly why the binders were kept there. EMS described the binders as large with packets and the photographs were burned onto CDs. There were contact sheets with thumbnails, so they knew which photographs were on which CD. These binders were stored in a large cabinet located past the three desks in MAXWELL'S office in her New York home. MONNE. =Mt, and Ems worked there. There were approximately 8-10 binders of photographs. There were other photographs as well. described a time in Palm Beach where she was on the couch with ggis immi and imp stripped, took off her top, and danced. EPSTEIN nudged gmmmel to get the camera to take photographs. Either or put together the binders. Everything was at the request of EPSTEIN. mop enjoyed taking photographs; she had a nice camera. MAXWELL asked them to clean the office once. felt MAXWELL must have observed the printer and binders were there. They were intimate photographs so they would not have been printed commercially. The intimate photographs were of different women in binders that were mainly topless with modal like poses. Some photographs were in EPSTEIN's gym along the whole wall - they were all topless photographs. described the photographs as young women with an unknown age range. When asked if the age range was 18-20 years old, replied that the women were maybe younger but it was hard to tell because of make-up and the model style photographs. did not recall if MAXWELL Look nude photographs. MEW was not sure if anyone other than took photographs. At the time had stopped working for them, the binders were still at MAXWELL's house. MAXWELL sold the New York house at one point and MS thought the real estate agent had possibly taken photographs of MAXWELL's office. In regards to the storage of contact information, MM. would get the phone numbers for made her own contact list that she typed up. printed a few copies and put them in a desk. When e came back to New York, these were sometimes missing. The notebooks had massage sections, but EMS never called from there. 3524-013 Page 4 of 8 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090801 FD-3024 (Rev 5-8401 SOD-NY-3027571 Serial 637 SOD—NY-30275/1 continuation or rv.302 or MI Proffer of On 05/14/2021 Par 5 of 8 only called people from the contact information given to her by 1 and the contact list had made from contacts given to her by . gave mow phone numbers. swim was not sure where got the Information from. contact list was created by hand then typed up in a word document in Palm Beach. Mir typed up and printed a few and stored them in a drawer. recalled the list was missing one time or Imp had thrown it out because it was crumpled in the trash can. was at a computer in Palm Beach at a desk near the living room that she and used for work. @mow created a digital copy for herself. was not sure if anyone else had a digital contact list for massages thought the contact books for massages seemed outdated. [Agent note: MIMS was shown a document titled "Masseusses". This document is attached in a 1A.] did not recognize this document. did not format her document how this one was formatted; la underlined the names. a thought there were approximately 10 names on the document she created but thought there may have been more than one person on each line like having referrals listed. described there being message books around the house that had a page that copied itself, notepads, and contact numbers and information. Some of these were kept in the pantry behind the kitchen. There were white notepads throughout EPSTEIN's home that had "Jeffrey Epstein" and "Ghislaine Maxwell" written on them. Messages were kept on these notepads. Phone numbers were kept in a system they used called Citrix. People's numbers were also kept in books. MAXWELL had books with a black cover throughout the house and EPSTEIN had books with a colorful cover throughout the house. There were multiple copies of the books throughout the house. believed that both sets of books had contact information for massages. The contact information for massages was organized by location. remembered skimming through the books and seeing this. MAXWELL's black books were very simple as they were just black and while with simple font. believed EPSTEIN's colorful books were black and white inside and simple as well, but the font was slightly larger. MM. advised she may be able to recognize the books if she saw them; she has a photographic memory. [Agent note: At this point in the interview, IMIMMOR was shown a document.] recalled this document to be one of MAXWELL's contact 3524-013 Page 5 of 8 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090802 FD-302.4 (Rev 54-10) SOD-NY-3027571 Serial 637 50D-NY-3027S/1 Cmwimuauaurrum≥ur 10) Proffer of 0, 05/14/2021 par 6 of 8 books. also recalled that the font for EPSTEIN would 'nave been larger. The contact books were printed and not updated. was given a project to update EPSTEIN's books; she used the Citrix system to gather the numbers from in order to update the books. 'Imp did not recall being asked to update MAXWELL's contact books. During the time that =III worked for EPSTEIN she did not recall anyone switching the books out. When III". was asked if she recalled someone asking her to gather items from the Palm Beach house, she stated yes. 1 and EPSTEIN told her to go to Palm Beach to meet someone to hand over the contact books and computers. EPSTEIN, . IMMB gni (IEEE.) and flew into Miami. was told to stay with while EPSTEIN and 111111 had a meeting. thought the meeting was held at what is now called the SOHO HOUSE HOTEL. thought EPSTEIN was involved in the construction of the hotel. 'Imp recalled 'III. telling her to meet a gentleman and may have called before she met him. IMMIMMIt recalled the conversation she had with EPSTEIN was where he told her that something happened to his detriment and she needed to gather the stuff from the house. thought she was meeting with a police officer or investigator. MIIIMMER drove to Palm Beach, while OMMOON and EPSTEIN flew on to the island. When arrived at the Palm Beach house, JANUSZ was there and he helped her gather items. gathered the contact books. recalled definitely gathering EPSTEIN's books, but she could not recall if she grabbed all of MAXWELL's books. thought she gave both sets to the gentleman. When the gentleman left, JANUSZ called and said that he found a book, so called the gentleman back to hand it over. recalled the gentleman to be Detective Black. thought this was around October 6, because it was the day before her birthday. OMER also recalled stopping at a gas station and found a record of the stop on her bank statement. III.. had anxiety and stress while working for EPSTEIN. recalled telling her to do the same thing on the island. MINION told them to New York. 1111111 thought she may have asked KATHY where all the books were stored because there were so many buildings. This was possibly a couple weeks after had already removed the books and computers from Palm Beach. to remove the contact books from the island and take 3524-013 Page 6 of 8 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090803 FD-302a (Rev 54-10) SOD-NY-3027571 Serial 637 SOD—NY-3027S/1 Continuation of FU-342 pr RH Proffer of .0,, 05/14/2021 par 7 of 8 in Palm Beach, each desk had a computer. Ma removed the computer from EPSTEIN's office (the cabana by the pool), along with the computer that she and used and the computer from MAXWELL'S office. There was a stationary computer that security used that. 1111111 did not remove from the house. removed the books from the island and took them to New York. When ImmEmmix returned to New York, she gave the books to • thought gommEN left the office with the books. This was around the time that S had been given the assignment to update the books. asked OMMMEN what to do with the printouts of the contact numbers. looms! told MEM to shred it. did rot recall why 111111 told her to shred it. 1111111 just recalled EPSTEIN mentioning that something was stolen or compromised. remembered EPSTEIN referring to visas and immigration. did not remember if she discussed this with anyone afterwards. III= recalled an individual named MARK who was the IT person they would call if they had computer issues. did not know if MARK worked for WEXNER. a thought MARK may have knowledge about the database they used. recalled MAXWELL being somewhat intimately involved in EPSTEIN's life. MAXWELL was "very much present". MAXWELL had two assistants and she was "sort of like a boss". MAXWELL was one of EPSTEIN's friends and ex- girlfriends. EPSTEIN kept certain people around his life, including MAXWELL and EVA DUBIN, who was an ex-girlfriend. 111111 was also very close to EPSTEIN. thought gmommil and MAXWELL were close as MAXWELL took gmmEmp to some events. recalled that EPSTEIN bought a nice fur for Christmas and it was to be kept at MAXWELL's home. MAXWELL was in every detail. MAXWELL questioned the staff in New York. When MAXWELL visited EPSTEIN's different homes, she seemed more like an owner. EPSTEIN and MAXWELL were close. limp recalled EPSTEIN telling her that he delivered the news of MAXWELL'S father's death to her. MAXWELL had drivers and staff who thought she was not nice. ammint recalled a couple that worked for EPSTEIN and MEM saw the woman crying when she came in because MAXWELL said something mean to her. MAXWELL seemed like EPSTETN's person. 'Imp recalled that there was a couch on display at a store and the store did not want to sell it. EPSTEIN said to have MAXWELL deal with it. 3524-013 Page 7 of 8 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090804 PD-302a (Rev 5.8-101 SOD-NY-3027571 Serial 637 SOD—NY-30275/1 Continuation of Fll-302or 111) Proffer of 05/14/2021 .ftr 8 of 8 There was a masseuse in Palm Beach, Immr, who stayed at the New York apartment. EPSTEIN helped 1get an internship with a teenage magazine. MAXWELL was in charge of managing the apartment. ...MEW recalled that when fl left the apartment, there was something missing from the apartment and MAXWELL said that must have took it. [Agent note: At this point in the interview was shown a document. This document is attached in a 1A.] recognized the document as being a printed copy from the Citrix database. MENEM was not sure which of the books this would have come from. This would have been managed by believed MAXWELL would have had knowledge of the massages. MAXWELL managed EPSTEIN's houses and was very much present. Any person that was in the houses would have knowledge of EPSTEIN's schedule and massages. People spoke freely; someone may have said that EPSTEIN was getting a massage. People walked through the kitchen and sometimes there was a girl with another girl there. One girl went upstairs while another stayed in the kitchen. recalled there was a chiropractor at the house and gave an appointment to a girl that was there. did not know what MAXWELL got out of staying with EPSTEIN. To it seemed that EPSTEIN and MAXWELL shared assets. recalled a time where EPSTEIN bought a new helicopter and became upset because it was shaking. He blamed it on MAXWELL. MAXWELL seemed like family to EPSTEIN. III was also like family and EPSTEIN was fond of her daughter MAXWELL and EPSTEIN seemed to have a family like relationship. 3524-013 Page 8 of 8 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090805 FD-302(Re0 5-8-10) 501)-NY-3027571 Serial 640 - I of 6- EEDERALKUREAUOFINVESTIGATION Bak et entry 09/17/20.71 mmemw ingimp elgeggp, date of birth (DOB) , was interviewed pursuant to a proffer agreement at SDNY 1 Saint Andrews Plaza New York NY. Present for the interview was ms 's attorney Joseph Nascimento, along with AUSA mmemm, Eng, AUSA is and Detective gms mom'. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agents and the nature of the interview, 'Imp provided the following information: ***mow is shown the "black book" (72-mm-113327-1A9)*** states that she recognizes this. She previously described this as MAXWELL's contact book. §§§§§§p recognizes the color and the size and the format. The other contact books were bigger and a pastel color. All of MAXWELL's books were smaller. fl recognizes the black color and the smaller font. EPSTEIN's font was bigger. at has seen this book previously. This is one of MAXWELL's books, there were a few of them. The smaller font is familiar. =mg has opened it before but may not have used the numbers out of it. may have been told by someone that this is MAXWELL's book but not sure. SR was tasked with updating EPSTEIN's book which was bigger. IIIII may have told about EPSTEIN's book. ISM, is not sure if she has ever seen MAXWELL with this book or if she just talked about it. There was a confidentiality notice with EPTEIN's book because of the names in them. a does not recall using this book to call and make massage appointments. The specific contacts in the book don't stand out. This book was seen in the small office behind the kitchen referred to as MAXWELL's office. This is where recalls seeing it. Names that stand out in this book are CAROLE RADZIWILL and JEAN LUC BRUNEL. She recalls that RADZIWILL came to MAXWELL's home in New York and she Ineddigation on 08/20/2021 w New York, New York, United States (In Person) Files 500-NY -302757i Dalcdrafted 09/16/2C21 by BYRNE PAUL WILSON This document COAL= neither tecotunsendshoas nor C011eill11011Sof the FBI It is the propetty of the FBI and is loaned to your agency: it arid ns contents ate not to be &Unlined outside you: agency 3524-016 Page 1 of6 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090806 PD-30.1a (Rev 54-(0) SOD-NY-3027571 Serial 640 SOD—NY-3O275/1 Continuation on:D.302 o r 1W Interview of O,, 08/20/2021 ,PawC 2 of 6 published a book. Her and EPSTEIN discussed the book. does not recall seeing her with ESTEIN. Both MAXWELL and EPSTEIN knew BRUNEL. He is very close to EPSTEIN and he had an apartment in EPSTEIN's New York apartment building. recalls seeing this book in other houses, perhaps in the New Mexico house. IIIIIII recalls gathering EPSTEIN's books from the Virgin Island but does not recall gatfer'rg MAXW771's. *** is shown the message pads with sticky note book #4 (31E-mm- 108062 1B2-36)*** limp states the sticky note on page 5 could be her handwriting but not sure. Upon further inspection states, she does not think these notes are hers. mow recognizes these books and the carbon copies and the messages. low would leave messages for EPSTEIN in the pantry in the kitchen. IIIIIII recalls seeing more than one of these pads. Some were kept in a drawer. EPSTEIN went by "JE" on the pads and the staff would refer to him in the book as "Mr Epstein". Some of the staff taking messages was IIIIIII, and the house manager ALFREDO RODRIGUEZ. SR sees a lot of "AR" in Lhe book. RODRIGUEZ was later fired. IIIIII would not recognize other staff members hand writing but she understands how they would sign ("Mr Epstein"). Immssmpt recognizes the name "VOMMIr. MEW came for massages and brought other girls for massage. She was pregnant at one point when she came over. recognizes JEAN LUC BRUNEL. recognizes MUSCOVITE to be EPSTEIN's doctor in Palm Beach. recognizes DARREN to be EPSTEIN's lawyer. miggir would still have an obligation to schedule massages even when she wasn't at the house. refers to the 2nd to last page where there is a message left for gmmEmsp. 3524-016 Page 2 of 6 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090807 FD-302s (Rev S-8-101 SOD-NY-3027571 Serial 640 50D-NY-30275/1 Comimakmorn0402or (U) Interview of 0,, 08/20/2021 .hr 3 of 6 is shown the message pads with sticky note book $1 (31E-mm- 108062 1E1-2AC)*** recognizes that the book is in November and states that EPSTEIN would have been there around that time. recognizes HARVEY WEINSTEIN's name in the book and states it triggered her (MEW cries). EPSTEIN encouraged a victim of WEINSTEIN's to talk to an attorney but it turned out that the attorney was an attorney for WEINSTEIN. EPSTEIN would bring these pretty model girls around these business men to further his business. states that some of the handwriting in this book looks like hers but she is not sure. Imp states that the last page looks like her handwriting, all of the notes on this page. She recognizes the way she writes her "P", "N" and "7". * * * 'Imp is shown the message pads with sticky note book #3 (31E-mm- 108062 181-2AC)*** recognizes MANUELA and states he worked in EPSTEIN's New York office. recognizes GLEN DUBIN and states he is the husband of EVA ANDERSON (the former girlfriend of EPSTEIN). Immmt recognizes DR HENRY GERETCK1. states he owns an island in the British Virgin Islands and visited this island with EPSTEIN and JEAN LUC BRUNEL. 'Imp recognizes her handwriting on a message on 1/7/05. She recognizes the number "7" and that its singed by "011" stating "that's me". recognizes the message on 1/8/05 signed "mg" stating "that's me_this entire page is from me" down to 1/9/05. recognizes the next page to be her handwriting starting with the message on 1/9/05 from states the rest of the notes after 'lilt are also her handwriting. states had a sister. the next page to be her handwriting starting with the message on 3524-016 Page 3 of 6 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090808 PD-302a (Rev 54-I0) SOD-NY-3027571 Serial 640 50D-NY-30275/1 Caminumion of FD402 or (U) Interview of ot, 08/20/202: par 4 of 6 1/9/05 from LAURA XRAUSS. States all notes on this page are her handwriting. lime states all of the messages on the next page are her handwriting starting at 1/10/05 from JEAN LUC BRUNEL. mow states all of the message on the next page starting at 1/10/05 from JEAN LUC BRUNEL are her handwriting. states the next page the second message on 1/11/05 from MAXWELL that 'mop took that messages. states the next 2 messages on that page are Cram her as well. low states the first 2 messages on the next page were taken by her starting at. 1/20/05 from MAXWELL. a states the next page starting at 1/24/05 the top 2 messages were taken by her. states the next page all of the messages were taken by her. The date on the second message is 1/24/05. states on the next page that messages 1,2 and 4 are her handwriting. She states message #3 is likely her handwriting as well. 'Mill, states the next page starting at 1/26/05 that all of these messages were taken by her. a states the next and last page of this book are all messages taken by her. This page starts at 1/26/05. *** gime is shown the black binder marked "Book 10" (50D-NY-3027571- 18191*** is shown the black binder marked "Book 10" and asked to just look at the outside of it. states that this is one of the binders that was at MAXWELL's house with different pictures inside of them. The photos are of travel with EPSTEIN or photos of naked girls or women or in their underwear. They were categorized. These books were made at 's request mow thinks. does not recall the color or the stickers on the outside but she remembers the plastic sleeves with CD's and 3524-016 Page 4 of 6 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090809 FL)-301.1(Re, 541401 SOD-NY-3027571 Serial 640 50D-NV-30275/1 comiussmorrwour 10) Interview of .ch, 06/20/2021 .hr 5 of 6 thumbnails of the pictures. She does not recall how the outside was labeled with stickers or not. On the spine of the binder she recognizes stickers marked ZORO (EPSTEIN's ranch, could be photos from his trip), IMMEMMI (MENNEN/e) and MENNE. *** 'mg' is shown two black binders marked "Book 11" 6 "Book 18" (SOD - NY -3027571-1B19)*** ffi t is shown the black binders marked "Book 11" & "Book 18" and asked to just look at the outside of them. fl states these are large office binders with plastic sleeves. On the spine of the binder she recognizes stickers marked MEM, PB GIRLS (Palm Beach), 727 (one of his planes), MEM MOMMIN, not sure). A, LSJ and IIIMMOW BOOBS (could be but she is recognizes that these binders could have been kept in MAXWELL's house where she worked. They should have been inside of her office inside of the house. The office had two rooms in it. The first room had about 3 desks for either gig , Isom and MAXWELL. The second room was smaller and had a large printer/copier inside of it. It was a professional photo printer. There were also cabinets inside of this room. These binders would have been store in one of these cabinets. There were multiple shelves containing binders. MAXWELL would come into the office and sit at her desk. MAXWELL would print sometimes to put these photos in EPSTEIN's homes and to document EPSTEIN's life. would photograph the women in nude poses at EPSTEIN's request. did it to . EPSTEIN said it was ok and thought maybe it was for Victoria's Secret. is asked the difference between the professional masseuses and the not professional masseuses coming to the houses. e states the professional ones carried themselves different and gave massages to giggigi and others in the house. The not professional masseuses appeared to be young. Tn the moment =Ns didn't think of age. Sitting here today thinks they appeared to be underage because of their style of dressing (jeans and t-shirt), they were casual, their immature behavior, not professional manor, their physical 3524-016 Page 5 of 6 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090810 FD-302,14Rev SOD-NY-3027571 Serial 640 SOD—NY-3027571 ContheetioneCID-302or (U) Interview of .0, 08/20/202: ,Pegc 6 of 6 appearance was that of a teenager. would have to escort them upstairs. es visual observations and feeling that someone is younger than her. On one occasion asked for a tutor for S for her SAT's. at told a story once of her speeding and her parents having to come pick her up and she couldn't drive anymore after that. MIMI= saw lots of girls face to face. thinks they were 16-18, 19 and 20. Elm was about 21-22 years old and they felt younger than her. Over time can now analyze that they were underage. discussed a conversation with EPSTEIN the first time that she met him at his house for dinner. EPSTEIN asks how old she is and if she is 18 and he probed it further that she was over 18. mow was surprised because she was married. EPSTEIN presented himself to everyone like he wouldn't cross the line. UMW had the impression that EPSTEIN didn't want anyone under 18 but he didn't say that. said once that if someone lied to him about their age it wouldn't matter because he would still be in trouble. 3524-016 Page 6 of 6 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA00090811