FD.302 (Rev. 5.1-10)

FD.302 (Rev. 5.1-10) -1 of 7 - FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION OFFICIAL RECORD] Dab:acuity 12/04/2019 , date of birth, was interviewed at attorneys, Present for the interview was and , along with AUSA After being advised of the identity of the above listed individuals and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: was born in, When she was 13 years old, attended a school camp in Michigan - the school was Interlochen. It was here where met JEFFREY EPSTEIN and GHISLAINE MAXWELL. was sitting at a picnic table with her friends when MAXWELL walked by with her dog. EPSTEIN and MAXWELL stopped to talk with her. EPSTEIN asked her if she liked her teachers and her classes, then told her that he gave scholarships. EPSTEIN asked her where she was from and when she told him that she lived ii', he told her he did as well. EPSTEIN asked for phone number. had a year prior to meeting EPSTEIN and MAXWELL. Approximately six weeks after meeting EPSTEIN and MAXWELL, someone from his office called her house phone asking her to come by for tea and they could send a driver. went to EPSTEIN's Palm Beach residence and had tea by the pool. EPSTEIN told them that he likes to mentor and give scholarships. ; EPSTEIN told her that he could help. mother called EPSTEIN her godfather. described that it was the "perfect grooming". MAXWELL was always there. did not know what EPSTEIN and MAXWELL's relationship was Imestigathmon 09/19/2019 at fin Person) Eden 31E-NY-3027571 nmedninW 10/03/2019 by This document contains neither reconunendations nor conclusions of 11w FBI. It ra the properly of the FIR and is loaned to your agency; 0 and 0.4 contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. 3509-001 Page I of 7 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_0000691 I EFTA00158473 FD-302a (Rev. 54.10) 31E-NY-3027571 (U) Interview of Conitnuation oil:D-302a 9/19/2019 on ,On 09/19/2019 .page 2 of 7 exactly. MAXWELL "kind of" became big sister, in that MAXWELL would pick her up and take her to the movies. When spent time with EPSTEIN and MAXWELL she saw other people around, including other girls - girls that seemed to be older than her. described that the girls would be giggling. EPSTEIN, MAXWELL, or an assistant would call house phone. There was an assistant named LESLEY (known to law enforcement as LESLEY GROFF), MAXWELL's assistant and another assistant EPSTEIN had different assistants over time. When was 14 years old, she flew with EPSTEIN and MAXWELL to New York City to see The Lion King. stayed at EPSTEIN's mansion. EPSTEIN and MAXWELL took shopping and picked out what should wear, including white cotton underwear. described the underwear as looking like a little kids underwear. The first time she traveled with them nothing inappropriate happened. was taking a commercial flight home but did not have identification so MAXWELL came to the airport and somehow got on the flight. When was approximately 14 years old in EPSTEIN wanted to spend a lot of time with her. EPSTEIN wanted to rub his feet while he talked on the phone. Sometimes EPSTEIN, MAXWELL, and an assistant or friend of theirs would take to the movies at a "weird time", usually when the theater was empty. In the beginning, would be with her at EPSTEIN's house. EPSTEIN would give her money for nd talked with her about school. EPSTEIN always gave cash before she went home. EPSTEIN told her to give the money to because he knew they needed it. EPSTEIN gave her $200-$300 in hundred dollar bills. talked about a time where EPSTEIN took her to the pool house by himself and asked her what she wanted to do with her life. told him that she wanted to be . EPSTEIN told that he was best friends with the owner of Victoria's Secret and had a lot of connections with photographers. EPSTEIN told that she would have to have photographs taken. EPSTEIN told her not to be a prude. When asked what he meant, EPSTEIN pulled down pants, pulled her to his lap and 3509-001 Page 2 of 7 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00006912 EFTA00158474 FD-302a (Rev. 54.10) 31E—NY-3027571 (U) Interview of Conianuation oil:D.302 or 9/19/2019 on ,On 09/19/2019 •pr 3 of 7 masturbated. felt paralyzed. EPSTEIN told her that a photographer may do this in New York. recalled it became progressively worse after this. EPSTEIN told her that she needed to be comfortable in her underwear. recalled that she was 14 years old because she recalled the school year. EPSTEIN sent to to have photographs done. remembered the photographs; they were taken in a studio i The photographer wa wore a tank top for the photographs. recalled feeling relieved during the photo shoot. In the beginning, before the pool house incident, EPSTEIN showed off to EPSTEIN told that he had famous friends that he would call and put on speakerphone. EPSTEIN took in a dark green car to Mar-A- Lago to meet DONALD TRUMP. EPSTEIN told TRUMP, "This is a good one, huh." thought EPSTEIN introduced her as his friend to TRUMP. For the first few months was with EPSTEIN, it was only EPSTEIN who was sexually abusing her. Sometime after that, when was still 14 years old, MAXWELL joined in on the sexual abuse, then other girls joined in. felt grateful that other people were there sometimes because it meant that she was left alone during that abuse. MAXWELL was "very matter of fact about it". MAXWELL asked if had boyfriends. MAXWELL told her sex stories. MAXWELL told "Oh, just know that when you have a boyfriend, you can fuck them anytime because they're grandfathered in." Everything was very compartmentalized. There was no discussion; things were not talked about outside of the room. EPSTEIN told , "You need to learn about the world and you need to know how to do this." EPSTEIN always wanted to keep her underwear on. EPSTEIN told "You might as well get it over with because when you have a boyfriend, you want it to be good." MAXWELL would laugh like she was enjoying it too. MAXWELL would encourage the behavior or tell her to do something in the moment. At first, thought that MAXWELL did not know but then one day she walked with EPSTEIN and 3509-001 Pagc 3 of 7 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00006913 EFTA00158475 FD-302a (Rev. 54.10) 31E—NY-3027571 (U) Interview of Conlinuation oil:D.302 or 9/19/2019 on ,On 09/19/2019 •pr 4 of 7 There was a time where there were a bunch of girls lying by the pool topless. EPSTEIN summoned everyone and everyone followed. remembered thinking no one thought it was a big deal. When was approximately a senior in high school, maybe 17 years old, at EPSTEIN's mansion in New York, EPSTEIN told her that she needed to just get it over with. EPSTEIN pushed down on her stomach, held her down, and sexually abused her. It was just EPSTEIN and in the room. Up to this point, EPSTEIN had used his hands and vibrators on her. stayed in apartments when she traveled to New York. lived in an apartment with . EPSTEIN paid for this apartment. felt like she was the youngest in regards to being around EPSTEIN. There were girls that saw that appeared to be around 17 or 18 years old. recalled a woman named who was a massage therapist. described as having blonde hair and having a tan. vaguely recalled meeting- once. met another woman who had very curly hair. stated and were involved in the sexual contact. described and as short. introduced to the drink "white russians", which described as the first and last time she had that drink. These women also traveled a lot with EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN wanted to do what he did to in his Manhattan mansion again. It was frequent unless made up an excuse. EPSTEIN's office assistant LESLEY or MAXWELL would call to make appointments. EPSTEIN loved massages. Other women provided massages. Women would remove their tops while providing massages. would have to rub his feet while EPSTEIN had her witness the sexual contact. The women and girls were usually the same or similar. EPSTEIN had professional massage therapists. The other girls that were around looked like models. estimated approximately 100 times that EPSTEIN had her in the room when he was being 3509-001 Page 4 of 7 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00006914 EFTA00158476 ED-302a (Rev. 54.10) 31E—NY-3027571 (U) Interview of Conlinuation oil:D.302 or 9/ 19/ 2019 on massaged. .On 09/19/2019 .page 5 of 7 talked about a time in Los Angeles, where EPSTEIN stayed at Shutters on the Beach. There were a lot of girls around. EPSTEIN had already walked to the bedroom when one girl freaked out and cried. hugged her. The girl told "I don't want to do this; I have a boyfriend." and another girl told this girl not to worry about it and to leave or stay out of the room. When was approximately 15 or 16 years old, EPSTEIN made her stand in her underwear while he took pictures of her to show her that she looked fat. EPSTEIN told her that she needed a personal trainer and that if she wanted to be a model, she needed to lose weight. was with EPSTEIN and MAXWELL in Florida, New York, and New Mexico. Both EPSTEIN and MAXWELL participated in the sexual contact on in all locations. When was approximately she was staying with EPSTEIN. There was a birthday party for MIKE WALLACE. EPSTEIN came in with a blonde, who looked Russian, and he introduced as his girlfriend. When mansion for approximately two weeks. she stayed at EPSTEIN's Manhattan In New York, there were other girls who also participated in the sexual encounters with EPSTEIN and could not recall their names. EPSTEIN always gave $200-$300. EPSTEIN gave her the money after sexual encounters and also gave her money when he did not have sexual encounters with her. MAXWELL may have given money, but she could not recall specifically. MAXWELL was present sometimes when EPSTEIN gave money. would sometimes have a shower and get food. EPSTEIN always gave money before she left his home. MAXWELL and LESLEY set up travel. MAXWELL was like an executive assistant and everyone else was under her. flew from Florida to New Mexico and flew from New York to New Mexico with EPSTEIN and MAXWELL. When was in New Mexico, she would be there with just EPSTEIN and MAXWELL and it was boring at the ranch. There were other guests around. On one 3509-001 Pagc 5 of 7 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00006915 EFTA00158477 FD-302a (Rev. 54.10) 31E—NY-3027571 (U) Interview of Conitnuation oil:D.302 or 9/19/2019 on ,on 09/19/2019 • py8e 6 of 7 flight, there was a gentleman and other girls. EPSTEIN's chef, ADAM PERRY LANG, traveled with EPSTEIN as well. People who flew on EPSTEIN's plane included MAXWELL, EPSTEIN's brother MARK EPSTEIN, and PRINCE ANDREW. never had sexual encounters with EPSTEIN's friends. did not think that there were so many girls involved until EPSTEIN's arrest in 2008. thought she was the only one. In experience, she never saw other girls have sexual encounters with EPSTEIN's friends. stated that it would not surprise her though if that did happen. was always instructed; she was never asked. was instructed to have sexual encounters with other females. had a feeling that he categorized girls. When was approximately 19 years old, there was another girl who looked to be her age. EPSTEIN told , "Watch this, she'll do anything I tell her; she's stupid." described this girl as an American, having long blonde hair, and who looked like met a woman over 18 years old named at EPSTEIN's home. EPSTEIN introduced to HARVEY WEINSTEIN at a party. EPSTEIN called asked him if he had friends who wanted to do a audition. sent girls to the mansion. called asked her what was going on because he sent girls to EPSTEIN's mansion and they ran out screaming. d and did not bring girls to EPSTEIN. reminded her that EPSTEIN gave them their first computer. It was a used computer. MAXWELL's temperament was "scary monotone". MAXWELL called a couple times to check in with thought that may have been in interaction with EPSTEIN faded out; would make excuses. In approximately 2001, she stopped contact with EPSTEIN and MAXWELL. had a boyfriend at the time who questioned who EPSTEIN was. EPSTEIN called and screamed at her 3509-001 Page6of7 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00006916 EFTA00158478 FD-302a (Rev. 54.10) 31E-NY-3027571 (U) Interview of Continuation oil:D.302 or 9/19/2019 on .0” 09/19/2019 .page 7 of 7 telling her ungrateful she was. EPSTEIN's attorney DARREN (known to law enforcement as DARREN INDYKE) contacted and told her that she owed EPSTEIN $10,000 because EPSTEIN co-signed for an apartment At this time, the apartment had been leased out to someone who was not paying the rent. The last interaction had with someone from EPSTEIN's circle was when DARREN called. recalled meeting DARREN at the office and talking on the phone. would meet with DARREN regarding paperwork for school. described DARREN as "pleasant". EPSTEIN somtimes told to come by after school and they would go for a walk and they would walk to the Ralph Lauren store. had no further contact after that call from DARREN. recalled being at EPSTEIN's home. thought that was on a flight to Los Angeles and then flew out with them to Florida. was unsure about this. was younger than felt that she was aging out. EPSTEIN bragged about his island and how much it cost. thought that he mentioned her going but she was never invited. recalled seeing him arrested in approximately 2007/2008, then hearing that he "got that bullshit house arrest thing". had been contacted by several victims lawyers. These lawyers told her that her name had been brought up to EPSTEIN, and EPSTEIN told them, "Oh, she's grateful for everything I've done for her; she won't talk." felt that she probably told her first boyfriend at the time about EPSTEIN. felt that she may be able to recognize people if she saw pictures. [Agent note: Not all details were discussed during the course of this interview. agreed to speak again at another time.] 3509-001 Pagc 7 of 7 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00006917 EFTA00158479