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AUSA
Special Agent
above listed individuals
following information:
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Nftolinry 03/11//020
, was interviewed at One Saint Andrews
Present for the interview was AUSA
AUSA
Detective
, and
After being advised of the identities of the
and the nature of the interview,
provided the
attended INTERLOCHEN in approximately'''.
In IIIII
attended
but
was not sure if
also attended.
and in the summer of
at INTERLOCHEN was when
first
started talking about a man (JEFFREY EPSTEIN) for whom she had a sense of
admiration.
EPSTEIN approached
at the picnic tables.
told
the day of or shortly after she met EPSTEIN.
would have been 14 years
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old when she met EPSTEIN. III did not recall if
referred to him as
"JEFFREY" or "JEFFREY EPSTEIN". It became clear that EPSTEIN lived in Palm
Beach, which was a "cool coincidence".
III did not recall the first time
he met EPSTEIN. The first memory III had of meeting EPSTEIN was in
at a movie theater. III met EPSTEIN, and
and
GHISLAINE MAXWELL were also present.
III assumed that MAXWELL was
EPSTEIN's girlfriend/partner. III did not remember if that was the first
time he met EPSTEIN, but did recall that it was the first time that he met
MAXWELL. When III met MAXWELL, he was approximatelyillyears old, while
was 15 years old. III did not recall meeting EPSTEIN while at
INTERLOCHEN, so assumed he met EPSTEIN for the first time in Palm Beach.
III assumed EPSTEIN just started hanging out with
or she was going to
his house.
The second or third year at INTERLOCHEN, III and
stayed at EPSTEIN's cabin at INTERLOCHEN. EPSTEIN was not there
when they stayed. EPSTEIN communicated to
that they could stay there.
told III that MAXWELL had told her, "Oh I would teach your brother
a thing or two".
EPSTEIN was a "godfather figure" and wanted to help
EPSTEIN
wanted to do a lot of nice things
heard this from
and
III reported that it never felt
weird, but now looking back it does. III recalled that
was going to
EPSTEIN's home days/weeks/months after first meeting EPSTEIN. III felt that
it was pretty soon after camp. III felt that
had gone over in the day
time. III did not think
had stayed the night at EPSTEIN's home, but
she could have. EPSTEIN sent a driver, who III described as a very nice
Latin man. III only remembered EPSTEIN's driver because he was very
friendly. They talked about Latin music together. III could not recall his
name.
When III and his family had moved to another house in approximately
he recalled answering the phone and EPSTEIN was on the other
line.
always told them to be polite. EPSTEIN was always curt
and to the point saying something like, "Can I speak to
please?". III
spoke to EPSTEIN on the phone a handful of times and it was always the
same. III did not remember if he talked with MAXWELL on the phone.
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When III met EPSTEIN in person, EPSTEIN seemed weird; EPSTEIN was in
sweatpants and seemed like a homeless person.
had told III at some
point that she remembered EPSTEIN having dinner at their home; III did not
remember this but thought it would have made sense because
had
people over all the time.
went to
in approximately
for her
year of high school. Before she left for her
year,
told -
about EPSTEIN's house.
would have been
when she told him
this. III did not know who made travel arrangements for
; he did not
know if they were commercial or private. III recalled that
IM has
spoken to
over the years about it. III recalled
said she went with
to buy a dress
EPSTEIN's
New York City house had seven stories;
talked about the house. -
felt that MAXWELL always traveled with
and EPSTEIN.
mentioned
MAXWELL a lot.
would go to events and places with EPSTEIN and
MAXWELL;
talked with III about it. III remembered that
had told
him that she met DONALD TRUMP at MAR-A-LAGO in approximatelyIIIIIIIIII
told III about this meeting at the time it happened. III felt that he
met EPSTEIN and MAXWELL a couple times. III remembered approximately 10
years ago seeing EPSTEIN's face in the media. III recognized him so he
believed that he had met EPSTEIN more than once.
In approximately
told him to write music for
EPSTEIN's birthday. III spent six hours writing music, titled "Fanfare for
Jeffrey".
EPSTEIN purchased III and his family a computer that was delivered to
their home by his driver. III thought this happened shortly after
INTERLOCHEN. III thought it was used before EPSTEIN gave it to them. This
is the only thing III remembered receiving from EPSTEIN. III seemed to
think that there was no doubt that
received gifts from EPSTEIN; III
thought this made sense that EPSTEIN would do this. III had no specific
memory of
receiving a gift.
told III that she had been to
EPSTEIN's New Mexico ranch.
III has had conversations with
over the years where
that EPSTEIN gave
large amounts of cash.
told him
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When III was
in New York City, he stayed in an
apartment in Manhattan owned by EPSTEIN for a couple of days. III did not
know how he was able to stay at EPSTEIN's apartment. There was a friendly
door man, who III thought may have given him a key; III thought the doorman
may have told him that he was friends with EPSTEIN. While in the apartment,
a girl walked in and introduced herself as-.
did not know
III was staying there. III was 19 years old when he met
who was 23
years old. When
walked in, she told him that she worked for EPSTEIN.
III had not seen
in over a decade when she reached out. III saw
her in
in November 2019. III told
that they needed to talk
about EPSTEIN.
told III that she was surprised it took him so long
to ask about EPSTEIN. III asked
if she knew, and
told him
no.
told III that this situation has ruined her life and that
had written a book with
in it. III believed
when she said that she did not know the extent of what EPSTEIN was doing.
was paid to work for EPSTEIN; she was basically a slave.
met
BILL CLINTON with MAXWELL present. CLINTON asked
, "What do you
do?". MAXWELL told CLINTON that
was her slave.
told III that
she knew nothing about what has been reported about EPSTEIN. III had wanted
to talk to
because he knew she had worked for EPSTEIN and figured
that
had to have known something. Throughout
friendship over
the years with
, they never talked about EPSTEIN and MAXWELL.
told III that she was MAXWELL's assistant and described herself as MAXWELL'S
slave.
III did not exchange emails with EPSTEIN, nor has he been to any of
EPSTEIN's other properties.
told III recently that she had been to
EPSTEIN's Palm Beach house. III felt tha
had been to EPSTEIN's
Palm Beach house but was not sure.
When III saw the news reports, he thought that there was no way something
had not happened to
told him that she had taken
out
for lunch and told
that she knew something had happened to her,
telling her that she knew she was raped. At first,
denied it to
then she broke down.
Approximately 10 years ago when the investigation of EPSTEIN first came
in the news,
subtly mentioned what happened to her.
never
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overtly told III and III never asked. There was a lot that was implied.
III thought that he had asked her if she was ok, and
replied, "How do
you think I feel; I was raped by a pedophile for years".
has opened
up more in recent years.
In the early 2000's, when
, a massage
therapist came to give him a massage. This masseuse worked for EPSTEIN.
EPSTEIN was still very much in
life at this time.
III did not remember if he had talked with
in person or over the
phone when the investigation all came out. III did text
when EPSTEIN
died, telling her that EPSTEIN was now out of her life. III then realized
that was not true, that things were just beginning.
When
told him that EPSTEIN co-signed for their lease.
When they sublet the apartment, the person
did not pay the rent and EPSTEIN contacted
and told her that she
needed to take care of it.
said that EPSTEIN paid for INTERLOCHEN.
Early on,
had respect for EPSTEIN; she loved how smart he was.
EPSTEIN said things like, "An ozone repairs itself before a man could
ruin". III did not know what the turning point was for
would say that it was the lunch she had with
that was her turning
point.
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The news outlets were blackmailing
saying that she needed to give
an interview or they would write whatever they wanted. III thought that she
may have paid an attorney to make the media go away.
III recalled seeing a
saying that a woman name
was raped.
expressed that she did not want this to ruin her life. III told
that he would support her in whatever she decided. This conversation
happened approximately six months prior to this interview.
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