FD.302 (Rev. $4.10)

FD.302 (Rev. $4.10) -1 of 4 - FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION OFFICIAL RECORD DateofeMry 12/ 11/201 4 , date of birth was interviewed at Present for this interview was Detective , Special Agent-, AUSA and AUSA After being advised of the identities of the above listed individuals and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: met GHISLAINE MAXWELL when she was about 17 years old in She recalled meeting MAXWELL in the lobby of a hotel. remembered being at a friend's 20th birthday party. is willing to talk about the case and he was friends with MAXWELL. would stay at one of JEFFREY EPSTEIN's apartments. EPSTEIN would tell her not to have men in the apartment. MAXWELL tried to get a boyfriend and introduced her to was not sure how old she was when she met but thinks she may have been 18. MAXWELL told about EPSTEIN. MAXWELL told that he helps people, and "he is really going to like you". A few months later, MAXWELL called and told her that EPSTEIN was in town, and to come meet him. went to MAXWELL's home in . EPSTEIN was on the phone at this house and somewhat ignored MAXWELL "talked up" to EPSTEIN. MAXWELL told to show EPSTEIN how strong she was with a hand massage. recalled that her first massage of EPSTEIN turned sexual. EPSTEIN had an erection and he placed her hand on his penis. EPSTEIN said to her, "It's natural...you're not scared are you?". MAXWELL was outside the room when this occurred. Afterwards, MAXWELL asked her how it went. MAXWELL asked, "Did you have fun? Did you and did he like it?". had a sense that MAXWELL knew what went on. Immtigan4mon 09/19/2019 at Hen 31E—NY-3027571 Omcdmiled 11/05/2019 by This document contains neither mmmmwndazium nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the properly of the Flit and is loaned al your agency; 0 and lb contents ale not to be distributed outside your agency. 3513-005 Page I of 4 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00007269 EFTA00158645 FD-302a (Rev. 54.10) 31E-NY-3027571 Conitnuation oil:D-3020r (U) Interview 0„ 09/19/2019 fts, 2 of 4 Everything was sexualized with MAXWELL. MAXWELL would refer to EPSTEIN's penis as his "willie". After the first incident, recalled MAXWELL saying, "Anyone just give him a blow job, I'm just so exhausted". MAXWELL would giggle and joke about it and say that "us girls have to stick together". MAXWELL sent a handbag as a gift to for her 18th birthday. The note for this gift said, "All of our love, Jeffrey and Ghislaine". MAXWELL introduced tc MAXWELL told that she met when she was 17 years old. recalled MAXWELL saying this to as a selling point to date met when she was approximately 20 years old. traveled to meet with EPSTEIN and MAXWELL several times. They would pay for her trips. was not sure if this was prior to her 18th birthday. recalled that two of the sexual encounters she had with EPSTEIN were prior to her turning 18. In West Palm Beach, she recalled an occasion in which she visited with EPSTEIN and MAXWELL. This was after she turned 18. On either the first or second day, went into her room inside of his house and found a school girl outfit on her bed. MAXWELL had put it there and acted as if she didn't know it was there. MAXWELL told that it would be fun for her to wear the outfit and bring EPSTEIN his tea. MAXWELL stated, "naughty little school girl", and referred to the movie "Saint Trinians" and said to have some fun. put it on reluctantly and brought him his tea. felt that she needed to put it on or they would have made her leave. At the time, EPSTEIN's trainer was there and felt self- conscious. EPSTEIN dismissed the trainer. put the tea down and they went into a room with a massage bed. EPSTEIN reached under her skirt and started touching After this incident, MAXWELL said to , "I heard you did well". During this week in West Palm Beach there were several incidents of sexual contact. At one point, EPSTEIN had forced intercourse with He told her that MAXWELL would be mad if she found out. At one point, while on the beach, EPSTEIN put his hands down both MAXWELL and bikinis at the same time. ALAN DERSHOWIT2 is there at some point and wanted to sun bath topless. MAXWELL would talk about how nice breasts 3513-005 Page 2 of 4 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00007270 EFTA00158646 FD-302a (Rev. 54.10) 31E-NY-3027571 Conitnuation olTD-302 or (U) Interview O„ 09/19/2019 jaw 3 of 4 were, stating they were "cute little perky breasts”. When was topless, MAXWELL would "touch and flick them". Both EPSTEIN and MAXWELL discussed having children. EPSTEIN asked if she would like to have a baby with him. MAXWELL said to that EPSTEIN wanted to have a baby with "you or someone like you because you are getting too old". was about 18-19 years old at this time. MAXWELL told that EPSTEIN needed sex three to four times a day. MAXWELL said "whatever we need to do to make him happy; you know these tycoons". MAXWELL said this early on in knowing them. started to notice other girls and massage therapists coming often. When was 22 years old, she traveled with them to EPSTEIN's island. EPSTEIN told her to come and work for him. It was more than just massages. EPSTEIN would throw money at which was degrading. EPSTEIN became more mean towards recalled being there at this time. MAXWELL would ask towards the end about sexual things with EPSTEIN. She would want a report as in, "Did you give him a blow job?". MAXWELL would get mad if the answer was no. MAXWELL would say, "I have to do everything". At this time, was on the island for about two weeks. After leaving, had a panic attack and a breakdown on the plane while heading back to New York. did not see MAXWELL or EPSTEIN for a long time after this. MAXWELL would call every three to four months after this and attempt to get her to come back and "go on vacation" with them. recalled being in and MAXWELL paying her for the first massage that she had given to EPSTEIN. This was the second time that had met EPSTEIN and she received $150. Prior to giving the massage, was told by MAXWELL that she would be paid. Afterward, MAXWELL asked , "Did you like it...did he like it?". felt that by making this comment, MAXWELL knew what had happened. EPSTEIN told that he was not allowed to have full sex with anyone, and that was the deal that he and MAXWELL had made. EPSTEIN and MAXWELL would often give money to to go shopping. MAXWELL would always ask about her sex life, or who she was sleeping with. was shy about telling her. On one occasion, MAXWELL cried to about her father. MAXWELL wanted to give to EPSTEIN but she was nervous. recalled meeting TRUMP 3513-005 Pagc 3 of 4 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00007271 EFTA00158647 ED-302a (Rev. 54.10) 31E-NY-3027571 Conitnuation olTD-302 or (U) Interview O„ 09/19/2019 Pag,• 4 of 4 at a party while with MAXWELL. MAXWELL told TRUMP, "This is who I was telling you about". MAXWELL asked if she knew anyone to give EPSTEIN a massage or blow job. MAXWELL said, "We need it now...he's making my life hell". MAXWELL told , "You know what he likes". To knowledge, EPSTEIN liked young blonde girls. EPSTEIN had lots of pictures of young naked women near his office in West Palm Beach. MAXWELL set up the muffins for EPSTEIN in the mornings and said that everything must be perfect for EPSTEIN. Everything from the muffins, to the massages, to the girls, everything needed to be perfect. EPSTEIN would tell that he knew how to kill people. felt as though it was hard to say no to someone when they tell you that. MAXWELL would get money from EPSTEIN. knew that and were with EPSTEIN, but did not specifically remember them. MAXWELL, LESLEY GROFF and they would fly separately. years old. would book travel, but looked very young when she was 17-18 After being with EPSTEIN, MAXWELL would often call to "check in" but would then ask to come see them again. GROFF would call and say to that EPSTEIN would like to talk to her. Then EPSTEIN would get connected and ask about her career. He would ask to come visit. Sometimes, this happened over email. After the fact, would not bring up the abuse to MAXWELL and EPSTEIN. Sometime around when was 31 years old she met EPSTEIN in This may have been the last time she saw him. Sometime prior to this, she met EPSTEIN in New York and went to his place. He asked her, "How have you been and who are you fucking?". He asked, "Is it good and are you cheating on me?". He grabbed EPSTEIN emailed from jail and would request that she send him pictures. While assisting attorney-with the received a threatening phone call from an unknown male. About 3 years ago, MAXWELL called IIII 3513-005 Page 4 of 4 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00007272 EFTA00158648