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Plaintiff,
vs.
COPY
ADRIANA ROSS, a/k/a Adriana Mucinska,
and NADIA MARCINKOVA,
Defendants.
TESTIMONY
OF
SPECIAL AGENT
Federal Grand Jury 07-103
Federal Building
U.S. Courthouse
West Palm Beach, Florida
Tuesday, March 18, 2008
APPEARANCES:
Assistant United States Attorney
Foreperson
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I.
The sworn testimony of SPECIAL AGENT
was taken before the
Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division,
Federal Building, U.S. Courthouse, Palm Beach
County, State of Florida, on Tuesday, March 18,
2008.
, Certified Court
Reporter and Notary Public, State of Florida,
Official Reporting Service, LLC, 524 South Andrews
Avenue, Suite 302N, Fort Lauderdale, Florida,
33301 , was authorized to and did report the sworn
testimony.
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(Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.)
THE FOREPERSON: You do solemnly swear
that the testimony you give will be the
truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the
truth, so help you God?
THE WITNESS: I do.
THE FOREPERSON:
seated.
BY
Thank you.
Please be
EXAMINATION
Q
Good afternoon, Special Agent
Would you just remind the grand jury
of your name and for whom you work?
A
I am
My official name is
and I work for the FBI here
in West Palm Beach.
Q
All right. And you are still one of the
case agents on Operation Leap Year?
A
Yes, I am.
Q
Have additional subpoenas been issued on
behalf of this grand jury regarding Leap Year?
A
Yes, they have.
Q
And have documents been received in
response to those subpoenas?
A
Yes, they have.
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Q
What subpoenas were issued and what
items were received?
A
The items that are received are in this
box for your review at a later time, but starting
with the first subpoena that we had received
documents back for would be from American Express.
The subpoena was issued and we received
credit card account information.
Q
Okay.
A
Do you want me just to --
Q
You can just go through them.
A
A subpoena was issued to J. Epstein
Virgin Island Foundation, Inc., J. Epstein and
Company, Epstein Interests, Financial Trust
Company, Inc., and we received documents on all
three of those except for -- all four of those
except for Jeffrey Epstein and Company --
J. Epstein and Company, which we received a letter
of no response.
The next subpoena was issued to the Palm
Beach County School Board and we received
transcript request forms. The next grand jury
subpoena was issued to Dan Tishler, Airport
Executive, Town Car Services. We received a
verbal that there were no records from Mr.
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Tishler.
We issued a grand jury subpoena to the
custodian of records for Majestic Theater, which
we received ticketing records for.
We issued a grand jury subpoena or you
issued a grand jury subpoena for the custodian of
records at the Broward Center for the Performing
Arts and we received ticketing records.
We issued a subpoena for the custodian
of records for the Kravis Center for the
Performing Arts and received a letter of no
records response.
We issued a subpoena for the custodian
of records for Live Nation Theatrical Broadway
Across America. Again, received a response letter
of no records.
We issued another subpoena for the
custodian of records from Live Nation Theatrical
Broadway Across America and that we did receive
some ticketing records.
We issued a subpoena to Bear Sterns and
Company, Inc., and we received personnel files and
account information. We issued a grand jury
subpoena for Wolf Camera and we received
transaction records.
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We have issued a grand jury subpoena to
Amazon.com and received order records. We issued
a grand jury subpoena to Federal Express and
received shipping records, and all that is
contained in this box.
Q
All right.
BY
And at the end of our
preservation, you will be welcome to look
through any of those records and we also will
bring them to the next session.
A GRAND JUROR: I have a question.
Yes.
A GRAND JUROR:
We subpoenaed
information from theaters. I heard you say
ticketing information or records from a few
of them.
Did we subpoena that information to
establish location of the defendant or I
guess he's not a defendant yet?
THE WITNESS: Just as corroborating
evidence of testimony provided by the girls.
Their statements provided to us.
A GRAND JUROR: Okay.
Q
Okay. Special Agent
, each
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member of the grand jury has before them a copy of
a chart. Do you also have a copy of this chart
entitled Revised Indictment Summary Chart
(by victim)?
A
Yes.
Q
And then you also provided to everyone a
list of Jane Does with photographs?
A
Yes, I did.
Q
Okay. Can you just explain to the grand
jury how -- which Jane Does we are going to be
talking about today?
A
We are going to talk about Jane Does One
through Six and Nine and Ten, and what you have
here is a Jane Doe list of One through 19.
We
will be going through the first Six and Nine and
Ten.
As you can see, if you look at these two
columns you'll see in the indictment we have
before you is going to have the new Jane Doe
numbers and the column to the right of that shows
you what their Jane Doe number used to be.
So Jane Does Nine and Ten, when we spoke
about those two before, and we will go through
that a little bit later, we referred to those as
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will refer to them as Jane Does Nine and Ten.
A GRAND JUROR: I have a question about
Jane Doe Number One, and Amy pointed this
out. The date of birth is August 1983. The
range of activity dates is 1988 to 2003?
THE WITNESS: That's a typo. That
should be 1998.
Thank you for catching
that.
A GRAND JUROR:
I was about ready to
have a problem here.
I was having a real
problem. Yeah.
Okay. Thank you.
A GRAND JUROR: I was about to take the
law into my own hands.
THE WITNESS: Let there be noted on the
summary chart, there is a typo correction for
Jane Doe Number One. The range of activity
for her is 1998 to 2003.
This chart is a chart that we put
together because I have testified in the past
as well as you may have heard other testimony
regarding some of the Jane Does, and we are
going to be talking about them today and in a
later session.
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We want -- we provided this to you sort
of as an aid so that you can go back and
access the grand jury transcripts and go to
the date that the testimony was provided.
If you look at the last column where it
says, Grand Jury Transcript Pages, on this
form it will tell you the date of the grand
jury, who provided that testimony, and the
page number where you can find testimony
related to those specific Overt Acts and
substantive counts.
So the two columns next to that -- let's
just take Jane Doe Number Two and run through
that real quick. Jane Doe Number Two, we
have not testified about before. So that is
her number and will always remain her number.
Her date of birth is January of 1987.
The range of activity and that reflects the
range of activity that we have her connected
to Mr. Epstein and his assistants.
The next two columns are the Overt Acts
and the associated substantive counts. The
Overt Acts support those substantive counts
and again the last column you would at that
point go to my testimony on May 8th, 2007,
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and look on the transcript on Pages Six and
Seven, and that would be my testimony for the
Overt Acts, the supporting evidence and
testimony for Overt Acts One
through 18.
BY
Q
But, Special Agent
just so
that it is clear, when you testified back in May,
you weren't testifying specifically about Jane Doe
Number Two, but her name came up in
with
respect to one of the other Jane Does?
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Exactly.
Q
Okay. So any information related to
those Jane Does would be in the transcript pages?
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Yes.
BY
Does that make sense to
everyone how we have organized that?
Q
Now Special Agent
, if you
could look at the proposed indictment, and I'm
looking at the Background section of the
indictment specifically Paragraphs One through
Nine, which deal with Mr. Epstein's background and
who he employed.
Have you testified about that material.
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in the past?
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Yes, I have.
Q
And let me just direct you to Overt Two,
which is at the top of Page Two. There is a
reference to L.G., and I don't believe we have
talked about L.G. before.
Can you tell the grand jury who that is?
A
L.G. is Lesley Groff and she is a
personal assistant or an assistant for Mr. Epstein
in his New York office.
Q
All right. And just for the court
reporter, Lesley is L-I-S-L-M-Y, and Groff is
G-R-O-F-F; is that correct?
A
Yes, it is.
Q
Then Paragraph Three talks about three
individuals,
., and
. Can you tell
the grand jury who those persons are?
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is Tatum Miller.
. is
is Anthony Figueroa.
Q
And if you look at the summary chart on
the second page, there are columns for
. and
Do you see those at the bottom of Page Two?
A
Yes, I see them.
Q
And those refer to Tatum Miller and
Anthony Figueroa where you have testified about
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who
testified about them?
A
Yes.
Q
I know that you have testified about
Mr. Epstein's residence here in Palm Beach, but if
you could look at Paragraph Five of that
introductory section, which is on Page Two.
Are you -- can you provide the grand
jury with the location of Mr. Epstein's New York
residence?
A
Mr. Epstein currently has a property
located at 9 East 71st Street, New York, New York.
Q
If I could direct you to Page Five of
the proposed indictment in Paragraphs 18 through
25 of the introductory section.
Can you tell the grand jury about where
the various victims in this case attended high
school?
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I can. Starting with Paragraph 18.
Would you like me to just run through them?
Q
Sure.
A
Jane Doe Number Four attended Wellington
High School and Palm Beach Central High School.
Jane Doe Number Five attended Wellington High
School. Jane Doe Numbers Six, Eight, and 12,
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attended Palm Beach Central High School.
I should state that all of these high
schools are located in Palm Beach County. Jane
Doe Number Seven attended William T. Dwyer High
School in Palm Beach County.
Jane Doe Numbers Nine, 14, 15, 16, 17,
18, and 19 attended Royal Palm Beach High School
in Palm Beach County. Jane Doe Number Ten
attended Lake Worth High School in Palm Beach
County.
Jane Doe Number 11 attended the
Professional Performing Arts School, a public high
school located in the New York area; New York, New
York. Jane Doe Number 13 attended John I. Leonard
High School in Palm Beach County, and the Jane
Does attended these high schools during some point
of the contact with Mr. Epstein.
Q
Now Special Agent
, I know
that not each and everyone of the Jane Does is
listed in this. Did some of the Jane Does leave
school before they began their relationship with
Mr. Epstein?
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Yes, they did.
Q
Now everyone was handed a copy of a
document entitled, Merged Flight Manifests. If I
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could ask you to take a look at that, and in the
proposed indictment if you could turn to Page 32.
Special Agent
, I'm going to
ask you about Overt Acts 191 through 225. Can
you tell the grand jury what the basis is for the
allegations set forth in 191 through 225?
A
We received through the issuance of a
grand jury subpoena the flight manifest from Mr.
Epstein's pilot and that is our evidence to show
the travel that Mr. Epstein did, which is
displayed in Overt Acts 191 through 225.
Q
And the chart that is entitled Merged
Flight Manifests, what does that include?
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This chart will show the grand jury that
in January 2004 through -- basically, Mr.
Epstein's travel in '04 and '05 on his two
personal aircrafts, which would be the Boeing 727
and the*Gulfstream.
If you look at this chart, the first
column is the date of departure, the date that he
left, and you'll see airport codes in the next
column that tells you the airport that he left and
what time he left would be the next time, the
departure time.
It will tell you what airport he was
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airport, and the last would be the actual
aircraft itself, which aircraft he was traveling
on, and just to remind the grand jury, Hyperion
is the Gulfstream and JEGE is the Boeing 727.
Q
And who created this chart, the Merged
Flight Manifests Chart?
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The FBI.
Q
And where did they gather this
information from?
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We subpoenaed or the grand jury issued a
subpoena to the pilot and pilots of Mr. Epstein
and through counsel the pilots gave us a copy of
the flight manifest for those two years and I have
here a set of the flight manifests that were
provided to us by the grand jury subpoena and have
marked each of the Overt Acts from 191 to 225.
So that if any time the grand jury would
like to come and look at the actual manifest the
pilots gave us, you'll be able to see the data
that this form was taken from.
Q
Okay. Thank you.
:
Before I go on, does
anyone have any questions about those Overt
Acts and where this information came from?
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Yes, sir.
A GRAND JUROR: Is there something that
ties in these travel itineraries to the
actual fact that there was a meeting or
something planned? I mean, where does that
tie together? Traveling is not against the
law.
Right. The way that we
had the indictment organized before was an
attempt to do this in chronological order,
which seems to be more confusing rather than
less confusing.
So when you look at the -- when you hear
the testimony from Special Agent
and when you look at the Overt Acts related
to the victims and when he went to see them,
you'll see that the dates of travel relate to
the dates of his meeting with the victims.
Does that make sense?
A GRAND JUROR: Yes.
BY
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Is there anything else, Special Agent
, that I should add to that?
A
No. It will become clear once we
testify about the travel count.
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A GRAND JUROR: Can I just ask which
airport is ISM?
THE WITNESS: You know, I can in the
next session, I would be happy to bring the
airport codes.
A GRAND JUROR: Okay.
THE WITNESS: Obviously, we focused in
on his times when he traveled into the Palm
Beach County area and that would be PBIA
PBI, but I can certainly provide all the
airport codes at our next session.
BY
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Q
All right. Now throughout the Overt
Acts portion where there are discussions of
various Jane Does, there will be mentioned a
telephone call.
So, for example, if you look at Page
Ten, Paragraph 17, it says on or about April 23rd,
2004, Defendant .Sarah Kellen placed a telephone
call to a telephone used by Jane Doe Number Two.
Do you see that?
A
Yes.
Q
And Special Agent
, what is
the evidence that we have related to the telephone
calls that are mentioned in the Overt Acts?
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We have issued administrative subpoenas
to telecommunication companies for cell phone
records for Mr. Epstein's assistants as well as
many of the Jane Does.
These specific Overt Acts are reflected
in those telephone records and we have also
prepared for the grand jury -- I brought with me
today, and I will bring with me next time, all of
the telephone records for -- that we have received
via administrative subpoenas.
Today I brought the ones pertaining to
the Overt Acts and what we have done is we have
taken those cell phone records and we have marked
for the grand jury all the Overt Acts that are
listed in the indictment.
You'll note when you go to that page,
there will be a little mark by the telephone call
that we are specifically talking about in the
Overt Acts.
Q
And can ydu just remind the grand jury
what information will be on those records?
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It will be telephonic contact between
Sarah Kellen, Nadia Marcinkova, Adriana Ross or
Mucinska, telephonic contact between his
assistants and the Jane Does.
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It will show the telephone number that
was called and the dates and time and length of
the call?
A
Yes, it will.
Q
All right.
Any questions before we
start talking about the sexual activity
between the defendant and the victims? Okay.
No questions.
BY
Q
Let's talk first about Jane Does One and
Two. They are grouped together in Overt Acts One
through 18. Who is Jane Doe Number One?
A
Jane Doe Number One is a white female.
Her name is Virginia. She was born in August of
1983 and she lived in the Palm Beach County area
during the time that she had contact with Mr.
Epstein.
Q
Has she been interviewed?
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Statements have been provided to the FBI
by Jane Doe Number One.
Q
In addition to her statements, who else
has provided information regarding Jane Doe Number
One?
A
Jane Doe Number Two and Jane Doe Number
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One's boyfriend at the time she had contact with
Mr. Epstein, which is Anthony Figueroa.
Q
Who is referred to as
in the
indictment?
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Yes.
Q
During what period of time, did Jane Doe
Number One have contact with Mr. Epstein?
A
Jane Doe Number One met Mr. Epstein when
she was 15.
So that would be in the last half of
1998 until 2003 that we are aware of.
Q
How did she meet Jeffrey Epstein?
A
She met Mr. Epstein at age 15 and
according to her boyfriend when she was 20, Mr.
Epstein sent her to Thailand for massage therapy
school.
So she -- the time frame that she was
with Mr. Epstein was from the age of 15 until we
are aware of is age 20. Anthony Figueroa never
saw Jane Doe Number One again after she went to
Thailand.
She would contact him by telephone, but
she never returned back. He stated he inherited
her dog. She never came back that he is aware of.
So the time frame that we had Jane Doe Number One
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was:
I'm sorry, the question you asked me
How did they meet? They met by a friend of
Mr. Epstein's. Jane Doe Number One was working at
Mar-a-Lago and a friend of Mr. Epstein's,
Ghislaine Maxwell.
Would you like the spelling?
THE REPORTER: Yes, please.
Maxwell, who was a friend of Mr. Epstein, met
Jane Doe Number One at Mar-a-Lago and Jane
Doe Number One soon after began working and
providing massages for Mr. Epstein.
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Q
What sexual activity was Jane Doe Number
One involved in with Jeffrey Epstein?
A
Through the statements provided by Jane
Doe Number Two, when Jane Doe Number Two was 14
years of age, she saw Jane Doe Number One naked
and engaged in what she believed to be sexual
intercourse with Mr. Epstein.
Q
Now did Jane Doe Number One recruit any
one else to go to Jeffrey Epstein's home?
A
At this time, the only Jane Doe that we
are aware of is Jane Doe Number Two or the only
individual we are aware of is Jane Doe Number Two.
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Okay. So let's talk about Jane Doe
Number Two. Who is she?
A
Jane Doe Number Two is a white feinale
named Carolyn. She was born in January of 1987.
She lived in Palm Beach County, Florida, at the
time she had contact with Mr. Epstein.
Q
And how -- has she been interviewed?
A
Yes.
Q
During -- how old was she during the
time frame that Jane Doe Number Two was involved
with Mr. Epstein?
A
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met Mr. Epstein.
Q
And she was involved with him until she
was 17?
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2001, which would make her 14 up until 2004.
Q
And how did she come to meet Mr.
Epstein?
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Jane Doe Number One brought Jane Doe
Number Two to Mr. Epstein's residence for the
first time. Mr. Epstein was introduced to Jane
Doe Number Two by Jane Doe Number One.
There was a massage that took place with
the two of them and then Jane Doe Number One
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engaged in sexual activity that I mentioned
earlier where Jane Doe Number Two informed us that
she sat on the couch and observed what she
believed the two of them to engage in sexual
intercourse.
Q
And at the time, Jane Doe Number One was
17 and Jane Doe Number Two was 14?
A
Yes.
Q
All right.
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And I'm not sure if that was actually
the first or second visit that she went. So it
was either the first visit or the second that the
sexual activity that I described took place.
They may have gone there the first time
and just performed a massage for Mr. Epstein, but
on the second occasion the sexual activity that I
described took place.
Jane Doe Number Two stated that, you
know, the three years that we discussed from 2001
to 2004, she provided Mr. Epstein with over, in
that three-year period, over 100 massages and all
but three of the massages were sexually in nature.
Q
How much was she paid for performing
sexual massages for Epstein?
A
She was paid between 200 and $400.
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Originally, she was paid $300 when she starting
performing massages for Mr. Epstein. On at least
two occasions, Mr. Epstein offered her $100 more
if she would take off her underwear, which she
did, and on those two occasions she was paid
$400.
When Jane Doe Number Two expressed to
Mr. Epstein that she did not want him touching her
vagina, Jane Doe Number Two informed us that he
dropped the amount to $200.
She would also receive $100 for bringing
any girls.
Q
All right. Now you said that on all but
three occasions with Jane Doe Number Two, the
massages were sexual. Did Jeffrey Epstein
masturbate during those massages?
A
Yes, he did.
Q
Did he instruct Jane Doe Number Two to
do anything while he was masturbating?
A
Yes. He asked her to rub and pinch h
nipples.
Q
And these started when she was still 14?
A
Yes.
Q
What was the involvement of Sarah Kellen
with Jane Doe Number Two?
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Sarah would schedule Jane Doe Number Two
and sometimes Sarah would be out of town and be in
New York and scheduled her to come and work, but
Sarah Kellen's primary role was to schedule or I
guess she was the one that would schedule Jane Doe
Number Two to come and perform the massages.
Q
Did Sarah Kellen ever actually lead Jane
Doe Number Two upstairs up to the bedroom?
A
Yes.
After Jane Doe Number One took
Jane Doe Number Two, Jane Doe Number Two started
going by herself. The first time that Jane Doe
Number Two arrived at Mr. Epstein's by herself,
Sarah Kellen took Jane Doe Number Two from the
kitchen and took her upstairs for the massage that
was to be performed for Mr. Epstein.
Q
Now you mentioned the sexual activity
that Jane Doe Number two observed between Jane Doe
Number One and Mr. Epstein. Was there ever any
other females involved in the sexual activity?
A
Yes. Mr. Epstein introduced an
unidentified female who performed oral sex on Jane
Doe Number One -- I'm sorry, on Jane Doe Number
Two while Mr. Epstein had sexual intercourse with
the unidentified female.
Q
Now you mentioned that at some point,
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Mr. Epstein asked Jane Doe Number Two to start
bringing girls; is that correct?
A
Yes.
Q
And did he describe what exactly he
wants, the type of person that he wanted her to
bring? Did she report that he asked her if she
had any younger friends that would be interested
in performing massages?
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Yes. He asked her -- can I just have a
moment?
Q
Of course, yes.
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I'm sorry. Jane Doe Number Two, Mr.
Epstein asked her if she had any friends that
would be interested in performing these massages
and then he also inquired if she had any younger
friends that would -- that she could bring to him
and then he offered to pay her $100 for each
person that she brought.
Q
In addition to the sexual activity with
Mr. Epstein, did Sarah Kellen ever involve Jane
Doe Number Two in any specific activity?
A
Yes. Sarah Kellen contacted Jane Doe
Number Two by telephone and asked her to come to
Mr. Epstein's residence that Mr. Epstein wanted
Sarah to take pictures of Jane Doe Number Two.
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Sarah paid Jane Doe Number Two $500 to
take naked photographs of Jane Doe Number Two at
Mr. Epstein's residence in and around the house
and pool area at the request of Mr. Epstein.
Q
And approximately how old or how old
does Jane Doe Number Two believe she was at the
time?
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Jane Doe Number Two informed us that she
was 16 years old when Sarah Kellen took the
photographs of her naked.
Q
What did Jane Doe Number Two say about
whether Jeffrey Epstein knew her true age?
A
Jane Doe Number Two was informed by Jane
Doe Number One to say if asked her age that she
was -- she should respond that she was 17. When
they went -- and went to Mr. Epstein's residence
and were upstairs performing massages, Mr. Epstein
asked Jane Doe Number Two her age.
She responded four --. And then he
said, so you're 14?
And Mr. Epstein informed Jane
Doe Number Two that they would just keep that
between them.
Q
So in other words, he knew that she was
14 when she started seeing him?
A
Yes. She did not remember to say 17 and
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just naturally came out four --. And then he
finished that statement for her, so you're 14?
And then stated that they would keep that between
them.
Q
Now is the -- can you summarize -- does
your testimony.
.cover the evidence supporting the
allegations in Overt Acts One through 18?
A
Yes, it does.
Q
And if I could ask you to refer to Count
Two, which appears on Page 38. Is the evidence
that you have just summarized the basis for the
allegation that Jeffrey Epstein and Sarah Kellen
procured Jane Doe Number Two to engage in
commercial sex acts knowing that she was under 18?
A
Yes.
Q
So is there anything else that you
wanted to mention with respect to either Jane Doe
Numbers One or Two?
A
The only other thing I didn't bring up
was the gifts that Mr. Epstein provided to Jane
Doe Number Two and Mr. Epstein would provide her
with lingerie.
He gave her tickets to a concert, a
local concert. He would also send her via FedEx
packages to her residence, and in one of those
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packages Jane Doe Number Two informed us that
there was a Massage for Dummies book that she
received by FedEx from Mr. Epstein.
And the grand jury should know that we
have received records from FedEx which corroborate
Mr. Epstein's address and packages going to Jane
Doe Number Two's residence.
Q
And those records relate to Mr.
Epstein's personal Federal Express account?
A
Yes.
A GRAND JUROR: Jane Doe Number Two, do
we know how old she was when Mr. Epstein
asked her to bring younger friends? Was she
already in his eyes up there and he wanted
them younger?
THE WITNESS: When Jane Doe Number Two
was 16, about midway through her 16th year,
she became pregnant and at that point she did
not provide Mr. Epstein with anymore
massages.
So I know she went away for a time
period and when she came back, you know, she
had a son and did not want to do massages
anymore. So at that point, she may have
brought her friends as well as prior to that.
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Do you know exactly when she started
bringing other girls?
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I don't know that I want to say that it
was before or after. We just know that she was
asked by Mr. Epstein to bring other females and he
would pay $100.
The only other thing we haven't talked
about is we have message pads that were recovered
in the execution of the state search warrant on
Mr. Epstein's residence, and I think the grand
jury has seen copies of some of those message
pads.
We do have a message pad for Jane Doe
Number Two that gives you an example of -- and I
can pull that out and read that to the grand jury,
if you would like?
Q
Sure.
A
This particular message pad is
basically -- it's a carbon copy message that again
was recovered during the execution of the state
search warrant at Mr. Epstein's residence and this
shows that this was dated on March 11 , 2003.
It's from Carolyn with her phone number
and it's marked that she telephoned and it's
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marked, please call, and it was signed by one of
Mr. Epstein's employees. So again the date that
the contact here is March 11 , 2003.
Q
And Jane Doe Number Two was still under
the age of 18 at that time?
A
Yes, she was.
Q
Okay. Now if we could turn to Jane Doe
Number Three and who is she?
A
Jane Doe Number Three is a white female
named Cortney. She was born October 1987 and she
lived in the Palm Beach County area.
Q
Has she been interviewed?
A
Yes.
Q
And during what period of time did Jane
Doe Number Three have contact with Jeffrey
Epstein?
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Beginning in or around 2003 to up 2005.
Q
And how old was she during that time
frame?
A
She was 15 when she first met Mr.
Epstein.
Q
And how did she meet him?
A
Jane Doe Number Two brought Jane Doe
Number Three to Mr. Epstein's house.
They
traveled by taxi there. Jane Doe Number Two took
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Jane Doe Number. Three upstairs to meet Mr.
Epstein.
They provided Mr. Epstein a massage in
their underwear. Mr. Epstein asked Jane Doe
Number Two to leave and Jane Doe Number Three
finished the massage.
Mr. Epstein masturbated in front of Jane
Doe Number Three on that first occasion, and Jane
Doe Number Three, after the massage, she was paid
$200 and she left the residence.
Q
All right.
A
On other occasions after that, Sarah
Kellen would be the one to contact Jane Doe Number
Three to come to the residence to provide massages
for Mr. Epstein.
Q
And you have phone records showing calls
from Sarah Kellen's phone to Jane Doe Number
Three's phone?
A
Yes, I do.
Q
In addition to that, the masturbation
during that massage, was there other sexual
activity that occurred between the two of them?
A
Yes, there was. Mr. Epstein requested
that Jane Doe Number Three rub his chest and
nipples while he masturbated. He also used a
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massager slash vibrator on Jane Doe Number Three's
vagina.
He touched Jane Doe Number Three's
vagina. He also instructed Jane Doe Number Three
to straddle an unidentified female and fondle the
unidentified female as he used she believed it was
a vibrator or a massaging device on the
unidentified female's vagina.
Q
And on each of those occasions was she
paid?
A
Yes, she was.
Q
And did she tell you about the range of
of money that she would receive for each visit?
A
She received $200 for the time period
when she would provide Mr. Epstein during the
massages.
Q
Did Jane Doe Number Three recruit anyone
to go Mr. Epstein's house?
A
Yes.
Q
And did she tell you anything about what
Epstein's requests were in terms of who she should
bring?
A
Yes. Mr. Epstein asked her to bring
other females. Jane Doe Number Three stated that
Mr. Epstein's preferences were short little white
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girls. Jane Doe Number Three brought girls ages
15 to 25 years of age.
Q
Were there girls whom Jane Doe Number
Three brought to Mr. Epstein's home whom he did
not like?
A
Yes. Mr. Epstein informed Jane Doe
Number Three that he didn't want girls with
tattoos, older girls, or black girls.
He also expressed frustration with Jane
Doe Number Three when she didn't have new females
for him.
Q
And how would he express that
frustration?
A
He hung up on her. He telephoned her.
He also would telephone her. Sarah Kellen and Mr.
Epstein would call Jane Doe Number Three and on
this particular occasion when she didn't have a
female for him, he hung up.
Q
Now if we could go back to the girls
whom Mr. Epstein didn't like. You said older
girls, girls with tattoos, and black girls. When
Jane Doe Number Three brought those girls to his
home, did he allow them to massage him?
A
No.
Q
So those girls were just sent away?
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They were, but they were paid for
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Q
Now if I could just refer you to Overt
Acts 29 and 31 , which are on Page 12. There is a
reference to two written telephone messages and
could you just remind the grand jury of where that
information comes from?
A
I actually have copies. Overt Acts 29
and 31 are message pads or carbon copy messages
that were found at Mr. Epstein's residence when
the Town of Palm Beach Police Department executed
a state search warrant on his residence.
The first one, Overt Act 29, is a
message dated November 8, 2004.
It was taken at
1 :15 p.m. The message is for Mr. Epstein from
Cortney with her cell phone number and in
quotations it says, I have a female for him. At
the bottom is an employee of Mr. Epstein, the
house manager, Alfredo Rodriguez.
Overt Act 31 is a message for Mr.
Epstein dated January 29, 2005. It looks like the
time was 4:10 p.m. It is from*Cortney with her
phone number on it and in quotations, I have a
female for him. Again, initialed by Mr. Epstein's
house manager, Alfredo Rodriguez.
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Now does your testimony today summarize
the evidence supporting the allegations in Overt
Acts 19 through 31?
A
Yes.
Q
And if I could just refer you to Count
12, which appears on Pages 40 and 41 of the
proposed indictment. Is this the evidence that
you just summarized the basis for the allegations
that Jeffrey Epstein and Sarah Kellen used a
facility of interstate commerce to persuade,
induce, and entice Jane Doe Number Three to engage
in prostitution and in sexual activity for which a
person can be charged with a criminal offense?
A
Yes.
Q
Was Jane Doe Number Three under the age
of 16 during part of her interactions with Mr.
Epstein?
A
Yes, she was.
Q
And under Florida law, could Mr. Epstein
have been charged with lewd and lascivious
molestation, lewd and lascivious conduct, and lewd
and lascivious exhibition based upon his touching
of Jane Doe Number Three's breasts, genitals, his
solicitation of Jane Doe Number Three in a lewd
and lascivious act and his masturbation and
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exposure of his genitals to her?
A
Yes.
Q
All right. Let's turn to Jane Does
Four, Five, and Six, please, and could you tell
the grand jury who Four, Five and Six are?
A
Jane Doe Four, Number Four is a white
female named Danielle. She was born in August
1986. She attended both Wellington High School
and Palm Beach Central High School in Palm Beach
County.
Jane Doe Number Five is a white female
named Angelique. She was born in October of 1986.
She attended Wellington High School in Palm Beach
County, Florida.
Jane Doe Number Six is a white female
named Jennifer. She was born in June of 1987 and
she' attended Palm Beach Central High School in
Palm Beach County, Florida.
Q
Have the three Jane Does Four, Five, and
Six been interviewed?
A
Yes.
Q
And during what period of time did they
have contact with Jeffrey Epstein?
A
In or around the first half of 2004
possibly going into the summer months is when we
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first have them having contact, I believe, they
have contact with Mr. Epstein.
Q
And how old were they during that time
frame in early 2004?
A
Both Jane Doe Numbers Four and Five
would have been 17 at that time, and Jane Doe
Number Six would have been 16.
Q
What sexually activity did Jane Does
Four and Five engage in with Jeffrey Epstein?
A
Jane Doe Numbers Four and Five took a
taxi to Mr. Epstein's house and went upstairs and
provided Mr. Epstein a massage. Jane Doe Numbers
Four and Five, the sexual contact that took place
was or conduct was that Mr. Epstein masturbated in
the presence of both Jane Doe Number Four and Jane
Doe Number Five.
He also instructed Jane Doe Number Four
to play with his nipples and rub his chest. Both
Jane Doe Numbers Four and Five were paid $200 for
this. On a later massage, Jane Doe Number Four
had additional sexual activity with Mr. Epstein
and Mr. Epstein had instructed or requested Jane
Doe Number Four to take off her clothing and wear
her underwear, which she complied.
During that massage, Jane Doe Number
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Four's underwear was pulled aside by Mr. Epstein
and he stroked her vagina.
Q
And she was paid following that massage
as well?
A
Yes, she was.
Q
Who led Jane Does Four and Five up to
the bedroom during that first massage?
A
Jane Does Four and Five went upstairs.
They were taken upstairs by Sarah Kellen.
Q
And what evidence is there regarding
Jeffrey Epstein's knowledge of Jane Doe Number
Four's true age?
A
Jane Doe Number Four told Mr. Epstein
how old she was.
Q
In respond to his question about her
age?
A
Yes. I'm sorry. Mr. Epstein asked her
age and she informed Mr. Epstein of her true age
at the time.
Q
Now during -- you mentioned that the
first massage that the two of them were together,
Jane Does Four and Five, and did Mr. Epstein
masturbate in front of them at that time?
A
Yes, he did, and I should say that Mr.
Epstein requested them to remove their clothing
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during that massage as well.
Q
Okay. And did he ever instruct Jane Doe
Number Four to play with his nipples?
A
Yes.
Q
You said that Jane Doe Number Four
returned after that first massage, correct?
A
Yes.
Q
How was she contacted to set up those
later massages?
A
Jane Doe Number Four was contacted by
Sarah Kellen.
Q
Via telephone?
A
Via telephone, yes.
Q
Did Jane Doe Number Four bring anyone
else to Jeffrey Epstein's home?
A
Jane Doe Number Four brought Jane Doe
Number Six. Jane Doe Number Four and Jane Doe
Number Six performed the massage together and then
Jane Doe Number Four was asked to leave.
At that point, the sexual activity that
was performed on Jane Doe Number Six by Mr.
Epstein was the digital penetration of Jane Doe
Number Six's vagina as well as the use of a
massager slash vibrator on Jane Doe Number Six's
vagina. He did masturbate.
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He did pay Jane Doe Number Six $200 for
that massage, and Jane Doe Number Six did not
return again after that massage.
Q
Did Mr. Epstein ask anything related to
Jane Doe in terms of her age or something that
would indicate her age?
A
He asked them where they went to high
school.
Q
And did she respond?
A
Yes, she told him she went to Palm Beach
Central.
Q
Does your testimony cover the evidence
supporting the allegations in Overt Acts 32
through 45?
A
Yes.
Q
And if I could refer you to Count Three,
which is on Page 39, is the evidence that you just
summarized the basis for the allegation that
Jeffrey Epstein and Sarah Kellen procured Jane Doe
Number Four to engage in commercial sex acts
knowing that she was under 18?
A
Yes.
Q
So in other words, Jeffrey Epstein knew
her age before he asked her that the second time?
A
Yes.
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And referring to Count 13, which is on
Page 41 and 42, is this evidence that you just
summarized the basis for the allegations that
Jeffrey Epstein and Sarah Kellen used a facility
of interstate commerce to persuade, induce, and
entice Jane Doe Number Four to engage in
prostitution?
A
Yes. We have the testimony of Jane Doe
Numbers Four, Five, and Six as well as others and
we also have telephonic contact between Jane Doe
Number Five by Sarah Kellen just shortly before
her 18th birthday.
Q
All right. If I could refer you to Jane
Does Number Nine and Ten at this point. The Overt
Acts related to them start on Page 17.
Let's start with Jane Doe Number Nine.
Can you remind the grand jury who Jane Doe Number
Nine is?
A
Jane Doe Number Nine is a white female
named Alex. She was born in December of 1986 and
she attended Royal Palm Beach High School.
Q
And have you testified about her
previously?
A
Yes.
Q
Is there anything that you want to
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either clarify or add regarding your earlier
testimony?
A
There is one thing that I'd like to add
that I didn't testify to earlier about an incident
that occurred in November, specifically, November
28, 2004.
Jane Doe Number Nine was 17 years of age
and we have a police document in the Town of Palm
Beach that shows that Jane Doe Number One
mean, Jane Doe Number Nine was provided with an
envelope filled with money that Mr. Epstein had
arranged for one of his employees to give Jane Doe
Number Nine.
The reason the Palm Beach Police
Department were called in is the employee didn't
recognize Jane Doe Number Nine's car, which was
parked in the driveway.
So he contacted the
police.
Once the police came out though, Mr.
Epstein's employee went and retrieved an envelope
and it had money in it. The employee told the
police that Jane Doe Number Nine was a massage
therapist and continued with the officer stating
off the record that Mr. Epstein had many young
girls that come over for that.
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And that related to Overt Act Number 80
on Page 18?
A
Yes, it does.
Q
Okay.
And can you just remind the grand
jury during what period of time Jane Doe Number
Nine had contack with Jeffrey Epstein?
A
Jane Doe Number Nine had contract
between July 2004 and September of 2005, during
that time period.
Q
And how old was she during that time
frame?
A
She was 17 up until her birthday, which
is the end of December of 2004, but continued to
have contact with Mr. Epstein after she was 18.
Q
And can you summarize the sexual
activity that Jane Doe Number Nine was involved in
with Mr. Epstein?
A
Yes. Mr. Epstein fondled Jane Doe
Number Nine's breasts. Mr. Epstein masturbated
in front of Jane Doe Number Nine. Mr. Epstein
used a massager slash vibrator on Jane Doe Number
Nine's vagina.
He digitally penetrated Jane Doe Number
Nine. He performed oral sex on Jane Doe Number
Nine. Mr. Epstein forcibly inserted his penis
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into the vaginal of Jane Doe Number Nine.
Jane Doe Number Nine watched per Mr.
Epstein's request as Mr. Epstein engaged in oral
sex and sexual intercourse with Nadia Marcinkova.
Mr. Epstein paid Jane Doe Number Nine to
perform oral sex on Nadia Marcinkova.
When Jane
Doe Number Nine didn't want to do that, Mr.
Epstein offered her an additional $200 if Jane Doe
Number Nine would perform oral sex on Nadia
Marcinkova for five minutes, which Jane Doe Number
Nine did.
Q
And how much was Jane Doe Number Nine
paid?
A
Jane Doe Number Nine was paid
on the
first visit we have that she was paid $200. She
was paid anywhere from $300 to $1 ,000.
Q
And what did that depend on?
A
The sexual activity. $300 to $600 was
the sexual activity. The one time we have noted
that she was given $1,000 was when he forcibly
'inserted himself inside of her.
Q
And you mentioned that Jane Doe Number
Nine was still seeing Mr. Epstein after she turned
18. What evidence do you have that corroborates
her statements that these activities that we are
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talking about occurred before she was 18?
A
We have phone records. We have message
pads. We have obtained documents that are from
Majestic Theater and from Jet Blue that indicate
that Mr. Epstein purchased a ticket for Jane Doe
Number Nine for her 18th birthday.
She actually flew to New York on her
18th birthday. Mr. Epstein thought it would be
better for her to travel when she turned 18. So
she traveled to New York and Mr. Epstein purchased
tickets -- or paid for her to see the Phantom of
the Opera, which was being performed at the
Majestic Theater.
Q
Now when you say Mr. Epstein, who was
actually making the calls?
A
I'm sorry. Mr. Epstein's assistant,
Sarah Kellen.
Q
Okay. Let's talk about Jane Doe Number
Ten as well because they are related. Can you
remind the grand jury who Jane Doe Number Ten is?
A
Jane Doe Number Ten is a white female
named Britney and she was born in February 1987.
She attended Lake Worth High School, and I talked
about her prior.
Q
You have talked about her previously?
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Yes.
Q
Is there anything that you want to
clarify or add related to that testimony?
A
No, nothing.
Q
And can you remind the grand jury during
what period of time Jane Doe Number Ten was
involved with Mr. Epstein?
A
She went to Mr. Epstein's residence in
July of 2004 to November 2005. We have her still
in contact with Mr. Epstein.
Q
And how old was she during that time
frame?
A
She was 17. Up until February of 2005,
she turned 18.
Q
And how is Jane Doe Number Ten related
to Jane Doe Number Nine in connection with these
events?
A
Jane Doe Number Nine brought Jane Doe
Number Ten to Mr. Epstein's residence.
Q
Now if I could refer you to Overt Act
Number 67, and it says on or about July 16, 2004,
Defendant Sarah Kellen caused Jane Doe Number Nine
to make one or more telephone calls to a telephone
used by Jane Doe Number Ten.
Do you see that?
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Yes.
Q
Can you tell us in addition to the
testimony from Jane Doe Number Nine what the
telephone records show?
A
An examination of Jane Doe Number Nine's
cell phone records show that she contacted Jane
Doe Number Ten, and if you examine Sarah Kellen's
records you will see that there was contact
between Jane Doe Number Nine and Sarah Kellen.
Q
On the same day?
A
On the same day.
Q
All right. What was the sexual activity
that Jane Doe Number Ten was involved with, with
Jeffrey Epstein?
A
I'm sorry. One second.
I just want to
look at this. Okay. I'm sorry. What was your
question?
What was the sexual activity that Jane
Doe Number Ten was involved in with Mr. Epstein?
A
Mr. Epstein fondled Jane Doe Number
Ten's breasts. Mr. Epstein masturbated in front
of Jane Doe Number Ten. Mr. Epstein used a
massager slash vibrator on Jane Doe Number Ten's
vagina, and he also touched Jane Doe Number Ten's
vagina.
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How much did Jane Doe Number Ten
receive?
A
Jane Doe Number Ten was paid $200.
Q
And she went to Mr. Epstein's home more
than once?
A
Yes.
Q
Can you give the grand jury an idea of
how many phone calls there were between Sarah
Kellen and Jane Doe Number Nine Alex?
A
Yes. There were approximately 225 phone
calls.
Q
And they are in the documents and
records that you have?
A
Yes.
Q
And what about Jane Doe Number Ten?
A
There were over 100 phones calls between
Sarah Kellen and Jane Doe Number Ten, and there
were also phone calls between Jane Doe Number Ten
and Adriana Ross and those were approximately
eight calls between Jane Doe Number Ten and
Adriana Ross with only one being prior to her 18th
birthday.
There were also approximately seven
calls with Nadia Marcinkova with all but one after
her 18th birthday. That one was actually on her
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18th birthday.
Q
And those calls that you are referring
to relate only to the cellular telephone records
that you have, correct?
A
Yes.
Q
So if there were calls from Jeffrey
Epstein's phone numbers to or from that number
that couldn't necessarily be captured?
A
No.
Q
Okay. Now if I could just ask you to
look at Count Four. Does your testimony today and
your prior testimony summarize the basis for the
allegation that Jeffrey Epstein and Sarah Kellen
procured Jane Doe Number Nine to engage in
commercial sex acts knowing she was under 18?
A
Yes.
Q
And in Count 15 is the evidence that you
just summarized the basis for the allegation that
Jeffrey Epstein and Sarah Kellen used a facility
of interstate commerce to persuade, induce, and
entice Jane Doe Number Nine to engage in
prostitution?
A
Yes.
Q
And also the offense charges using a
facility of interstate commerce to persuade,
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induce, and entice Jane Doe Number Nine to engage
in sexual activity for which the person can be
charged with a criminal offense.
With respect to Jane Doe Number Nine,
what is this offense that Mr. Epstein could have
been charged with, with respect to that activity
with her?
A
The sexual intercourse where Mr. Epstein
penetrated Jane Doe Number Nine's vagina with his
penis.
Q
And then with respect to Jane Doe Number
Ten, Count Five charges that Jeffrey Epstein and
Sarah Kellen procured Jane Doe Number Ten to
engage in commercial sex acts knowing that she was
under 18. How do you summarize for us the
evidence supporting that?
A
Yes. The only thing I'd like to add to
that is we also do have message pads that were
obtained through the Town of Palm Beach with the
execution of the search warrant at Mr. Epstein's
residence as well as trash pulls that the Town of
Palm Beach conducted in the spring of '05, 2005,
and one of those trash pulls I believe -- is it
Overt Act 81?
Q
Yes, 81 .
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The trash pull -- found in the trash
pull conducted by the Town of Palm Beach was
Jeffrey Epstein's letterhead and on it handwritten
that says 10:30, Vanessa, and then Britney on
Friday around 2:00, and then there's a "3"
underneath it. This was obtained on April 1st,
2005.
And then the message pad that I referred
to -- I'm sorry, the trash pull was Overt Act 147.
The Overt Act was 81 , and that message pad is
that message is from Jeffrey Epstein dated
December 4, 2004. The time is 2:55 p.m.
The message is from Sarah and it's
written, Britney would like to work at 4:00 p.m.
if possible, and then in parenthesis, Alex is
scheduled for 5:00 today.
At the bottom it says,
the movie is at 7:30.
Q
And you said that was written by
Defendant Sarah Kellen and it's addressed to
Jeffrey Epstein?
A
Yes.
THE FOREPERSON: We need a break.
Okay. Should we take
ten minutes?
THE FOREPERSON: Is this a good time?
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(Witness exits the Grand Jury Room.)
(Thereupon, a short break was taken.)
(Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.)
We are back on the
record. Is there a quorum?
THE FOREPERSON: Yes.
BY
Q
We were just finishing up with Jane Doe
Number Ten. Special Agent
,
you
summarized a lot of evidence relating to Jane Doe
Number Ten.
is the evidence that you summarized also
the basis for the allegation in Count 16 that
Jeffrey Epstein and Sarah Kellen used a facility
of interstate commerce to persuade, induce, and
entice Jane Doe Number Ten to engage in
prostitution?
A
Yes.
Q
Okay. I just want to review with you,
Special Agent
, that you did, in fact,
previously testify about background information
regarding the defendants in this indictment?
A
Yes.
Q
And that was in one of your earlier
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A
Yes.
Q
Okay.
I also wanted to ask you about
the victims who we have discussed today.
We have
discussed eight victims, Jane Does One through Six
and Nine and Ten.
Are you aware of whether any of those
victims have used illicit drugs or have had
mental health issues?
A
Yes.
Q
And can you summarize that for the grand
jury?
A
Jane Doe Number -- we'll start with Jane
Doe Number Two.
After the contact or during the
contact, but after she had met Mr. Epstein, Jane
Doe Number Two started using between ages 15 and
17.
I guess what I am trying to say is that
she first had contact with Mr. Epstein when she
was 14 years of age. So when I interviewed Jane
Doe Number Two, she informed me that her drug use
started between the ages 15 to 17.
She had a history of drug abuse. She
informed us that she has used Xanax, Ecstasy,
marijuana, cocaine and she has tried to commit
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suicide in the past.
Her mother had
MIES her. Jane
Doe Number Two told me that helped her withdraw
from drug use. For those of you that are not
familiar with the term Baker Act, if you are
believed to be a danger to yourself or to others,
you can be
III.. and that's what her mother
did.
Q
Meaning you can be committed to a mental
institution?
A
Yes. And did you ask me about mental
health issues?
Q
I did.
A
And she had also been in a mental
facility, Columbia Pavilion, three or four times
she was there between the ages of 15 and 17 and
then once or twice after the age of 17.
Jane Doe Number Two revealed to us that
when she was very young, she was molested by a
family member and has suffered from that ever
since.
Q
Any other Jane Does?
A
Yes. Jane Doe Number Three also has a
history of drug abuse. Her drug abuse began at
age 15. Her parents were addicted to cocaine and
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crack. She dropped out of school at an early age.
Her drug use, some of the drugs she
shared with us that she has used is Xanax, Lorcet,
and Perocet. Jane Doe Number Three expressed that
she just wanted to feel numb.
She stayed with a lot of -- she did not
stay at home a lot after age 15 due to the fact
that her parents had such a drug -- addiction to
drugs. And I'm not aware of, you know, any mental
health issues with her.
Q
Okay.
A
And then the last Jane Doe that we
talked about would have been Jane Doe Number Nine,
and we do have information that she has used
marijuana in the past.
Q
With respect to those Jane Does, did you
go about getting independent corroboration for
their statements so that you weren't relying
exclusive on what they told you about Mr. Epstein?
A
Yes. We talked about that today.
Specifically, with Jane Doe Number Two, we have
her statement, but along with that statement we
have telephone records.
Those telephone records indicate
telephonic contact with Sarah Kellen. We have the
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message pads recovered during the search warrant,
recovered during the execution of the state search
warrant that indicates the contact here.
We have statements from other Jane Does
and witnesses that corroborate.
We also have
received the FedEx records indicating packages
were sent to Jane Doe Number Two from Mr.
Epstein.
When you look at Jane Doe Number Three,
the same thing, we have telephone records that
indicate telephonic contact.
We have message pads
recovered in the state search warrant, execution
of the state search warrant.
Then we have the statements of other
Jane Does, and in regards to Jane Doe Number Nine,
again, we have the telephone records which
indicate telephonic contact with Sarah Kellen. We
have the message pads.
In addition to that, we have the message
pads that were recovered by the state search
warrant and they also found her high school
transcript. It was found at Mr. Epstein's
residence.
We have statements from other Jane Does,
and then we also have the records for her from the
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Jet Blue, you know, showing the travel on her
birthday. Majestic Theater showing that she
attended the theater.
We have -- after her 18th birthday, she
was involved in a play where Mr. Epstein had his
assistant deliver flowers to the high school. She
was 18 at the time, but we do have records showing
the purchase of those flowers and a note with
instructions for the house manager on what to do
and how to pick up the flowers and deliver them,
as well as rental car records.
Q
So we are not relying exclusively on
their statements?
A
No.
Q
Okay.
Now I know that there has been
some coverage in the press of civil lawsuits that
were filed against Mr. Epstein. Are your aware of
the press coverage?
A
Yes.
Q
And those lawsuits were filed in the
names of Jane Does Number One, Number Two and
Number Three?
A
Yes.
Q
Are those the Jane Does Number One, Two,
and Three in our Jane Doe lists?
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No.
Q
And are those Jane Does at all in Jane
Does One through 19 on our new list?
A
No.
BY
If I could ask you to
step outside. I want to find out if the
grand jurors have any questions for you.
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Special Agent
the first
question was about your last comment relating to
the civil lawsuits. Are there other victims of
whom you are aware of or are not on the Jane Doe
One through 19 list?
A
Yes.
Q
Okay.
Now there was a question about
Jane Doe Number One. You testified that she had
left to go to Thailand and her boyfriend, Anthony
Figueroa, her former boyfriend, hadn't had contact
with her in a long while.
Have other people had contact with her
more recently?
A
Yes.
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Including people from the FBI?
A
Yes.
Q
So there is no -- she's not in any harm
or danger?
A
No, and I didn't mean to imply. There
is also a question of a $3,000 phone bill that
Jane Doe Number One said that she would take care
of when she got back. She never returned.
Her stuff that was in their apartment,
the dog, she never came back, and I think there
was some concern on his part, but we know where
Jane Doe Number One is.
Q
Just so the grand jury knows.
Where is
she living now?
A
She's in Australia.
Q
There also was a question about Jane Doe
Number Two. You testified that she became
pregnant. Is Mr. Epstein the father of her baby?
A
Not that we are aware of.
Q
Okay.
BY
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questions. Any follow up on those three
questions? Okay.
One of the things I wanted to just
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discuss with the grand jury is our next
presentation and I had asked you to bring all of
the items that were procured under the grand jury
subpoena.
Can you tell the• grand jury about some
particularly bulky items that you are hoping they
will forgo?
A
We have from the execution of the state
search warrant by the Town of Palm Beach, they
have three massage tables or one chiropractic
table and two massage tables that are rather
large, that if you would like to see them, we can
bring two of the ones that were located upstairs.
So what I'd like to do
is we are going to step outside to leave you
with some time to review the transcripts of
the earlier testimony.
Before you leave, if you could decide
whether or not you want us to bring those
large massage tables up from the Miami lock
up for you to see or if Special Agent
description is sufficient.
A GRAND JUROR: Just bring a picture.
A GRAND JUROR: How about a picture?
A GRAND JUROR: Would that be
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sufficient?
We can do that. We will
step outside and if that is what you decide,
that is what we will do, and so what I'm
going to do now is step outside.
I have 13 -- I don't know why I picked
13, but we have 13 copies all of the previous
transcripts. Please take your time reviewing
them, and just let us know when you are
finished and then we will collect all of the
paperwork that we submitted to you and the
transcripts and we will bring them the next
time as well.
Any questions before I go? We'll just
be outside. Please feel free to call on us.
Before we step outside, we also have left
here the materials that were returned today
as well as the phone records of the flight
manifest if you want to take a look at
those.
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court reporter exit the Grand Jury Room.)
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court reporter enter the Grand Jury Room.)
MS.
We are back on the
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record.
I understand that there was a
question regarding two of the CDs that were
in one of the files.
BY
Q
Special Agent
, could you
just tell the grand jury what those are in
response to?
A
These are in response to the subpoena
that was issued to the custodian of records of
Bear Sterns and it's basically account statements
for Mr. Epstein.
Q
Okay. And when we come back next time,
are you planning on bringing computer equipment
that will allow the grand jury to open the CDs
that we have?
A
Yes. We will have a cassette tape for
audio tapes. We will have a DVD player. We will
have a computer.
We will have a TV with a VCR.
We will have all kinds of audio videos and
electronic equipment for you guys to be able to
look at any of this as well as you will see in
all the grand jury material that we have collected
things that you may be interested in viewing on
these visual aids or these audio visual.
Q
Okay.
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Any other questions?
A GRAND JUROR: Are we going to get
pictures of this table thing instead of
bringing them in?
A GRAND JUROR:
We don't really care.
A
picture is sufficient.
Okay. We will have
pictures of the massage tables. Any other
questions? Are you all finished for today?
A GRAND JUROR: I don't know. Are we?
A GRAND JUROR: Yeah, we are.
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You are finished with
me. Okay. Great. Thank you so much.
THE WITNESS: Excuse me.
Audio visual
aids will be provided in the next grand jury
session.
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, Certified Court
Reporter and Notary Public, do certify that the
transcript is a true and correct transcription of
my stenotype notes of the testimony of
, taken before
the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach, Florida.
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