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CASE NO. 08-CV-80893-CIV-MARRA/JOHNSON
JANE DOE,
Plaintiff,
vs.
JEFFREY EPSTEIN, et al.,
Defendants.
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Related Cases:
08-80119, 08-80232, 08-80380, 08-80381,
08-80994, 08-80811, 08-80893, 09-80469,
09-8-591, 09-80656, 09-80802, 09-81092
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LEOPOLD-KUVIN
Attorneys for Plaintiffs
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2925 PGA Boulevard, Suite 200
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Attorneys for Jane Does I and 3
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Attorneys for Defendant Jeffrey Epstein
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ROBERT turret'', ESQ.
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AlTERBURY, GOLDBERGER & WEISS
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West Palm Beach. Florida 33401
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ALSO PRESENT:
JESSICA CADWELL
JOE ROVNER. Videographer
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The videotaped deposition of —
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cause, was taken before me, TERRI BECKER, a
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Registered Professional Reporter and Notary
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Public for the State of Florida at Large, at 444
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West Railroad Avenue, in the City of West Palm
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Florida, beginning at the hour of 10:00 o'clock
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a.m., pursuant to the Notice in said cause for
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the taking of said deposition which is annexed to
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the court file herein, on behalf of the PLAINTIFF
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in the above-entitled action pending in the
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above-named court.
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The appearances at said time and place
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were as follows:
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Attorneys for Plaintiffs Jane Does,
L.N. and E.W.
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Suite 2
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numbers 2 through 8
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Q What Is your date of birth?
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Q What is your Social Security number?
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A Under advice of my counsel, I invoke my
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privileges under the Fifth and Sixth Amendments
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to the United States Constitution and
respectfully decline to answer the question.
Q Where were you born?
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your question, I must invoke my Fifth and Sixth
Amendment privileges and refuse to answer your
questions.
Q What is your current address?
MR. GOLDBERGER: There is going to be a
continued, obviously, you anticipate I'm
sure, continued invocation of Fifth
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Amendment privileges. If it is okay with
all counsel, to shorten things, I'll simply
have the witness say "Fifth." if that
satisfies everyone's interest.
MR. EDWARDS: That is fine with me.
MR. GOLDBERGER: Okay, with that Cathy?
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Q Do you know a lady by the name of
Maritsa Vazques?
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Q Is this somebody who helped to falsify a
visa for you?
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reask the question, what's your
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Q Were you ever a working model in the
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Q Can you tell us your parents' names?
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Q Are you also familiar with all address in
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New York, 301 East 66th Street?
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Q Flow is it that you have supported
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Q When you went to visit him you indicated
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Q What is the last grade you completed in
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to jail personnel your address was 301 East 66th
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Q Flow long have you been in the United
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MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Who brought you to the United States?
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Q Since coming to this country, hasn't
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financial support?
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MR. YAREMA: Form objection.
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Q Flow much does Jeffrey Epstein pay you
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Q Are you a U.S. citizen?
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Q What does every Epstein pay you for?
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Q Does he pay you specifically to be his
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States by Jeffrey Epstein when you were roughly
13 or 14 years old to be his Yugoslavian lesbian
sex slave?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Is that true?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Have you performed any services for
Jeffrey Epstein aside from being his sex slave?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the fonn.
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Q What Is your sexual orientation?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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the witness not to answer that question. It
serves no purpose other than to harass or
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Q What has Jeffrey Epstein done to train
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Q What do your parents think about you
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being Jeffrey Epstein's sex slave?
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Q When did you first learn that Jeffrey
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Q You did, in fact, engage in sexual
activity with E.W. when she was only 16 years
old; isn't that true?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the fonn.
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Q Back to my original question: And I'll
ask you this way: Do you consider yourself
heterosexual, bi-sexual, or can you answer that
question?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
MR. GOLDBERGER: Seine objection. Do not
answer the question.
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Q How did you meet Jeffrey Epstein?
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Q When did you become one of Jeffrey
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Q How many times has Jeffrey Epstein made
you have sex with underage minor females?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the fonn.
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Q Do you enjoy sex with underage minor
females?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q What is the youngest child that Jeffrey
Epstein has forced you to have sex with?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Does Jeffrey Epstein today still make
you have sex with underage minor females?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q How ninny underage minor females has
Jeffrey Epstein made you have sex with, since you
were over the age of 18?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Prior to turning 18, Is it true that
Jeffrey Epstein made you have sex with many other
children in kid-type orgies?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form
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Q Do you know David Copperfield?
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Q Have you ever been made to perform
sexually on David Copperfield?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Do you know Prince Andrew?
A Fifth.
Q Have you ever been made to perform
sexually on Prince Andrew?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q When was the first time that you knew
Jeffrey Epstein molested underage girls?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Did Jeffrey Epstein molest you when you
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A Fifth.
Q Have you read the nonprosecution
agreement between the government and Jeffrey
Epstein?
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Q Are you aware that inside that document
you are labeled as a co-conspirator of his crimes
against children?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
A Fifth.
Q Isn't it true that your role was to lure
or procure underage minor females to Jeffrey
Epstein for him to molest, correct?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
A Fifth.
Q You also scheduled appointments for
Jeffrey Epstein, so there would be designated
times for Jeffrey Epstein to molest underage
minor females, correct?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the fonn.
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Q As well, you participated in various sex
acts with underage minor females, thus molesting
them yourself; is that correct?
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Q I'm assuming you understand why you're
here today, correct?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q For allegations related to Jeffrey
Epstein interacting sexually with numerous
underage minor females; that's something you
know, right?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the fonn.
A The Fifth.
Q That's something In addition to the
civil lawsuits, there were criminal cases
involving the same conduct, correct?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
A Fifth.
Q You were n part of that criminal
investigation, in fact, you were a co-conspirator
of Jeffrey Epstein's; is that right?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
A Fifth.
Q What crimes did you conspire to commit
with Jeffrey Epstein against underage minor
females?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Do you understand that Jeffrey Epstein's
interaction with underage minor females is
illegal? Do you understand that?
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Q Do you understand that the Lewd and
Lascivious Molestation Statute in Florida
indicates a person who intentionally touches in a
lewd or lascivious manner, the breasts, genital
area or buttocks, or the clothing covering them,
of a person less than 16 years of age, or forces
or entices a person under 16 years of age, to so
touch the perpetrator, commits lewd or lascivious
molestation? Are you aware of that statute?
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Q That is a statute that you know Jeffrey
Epstein to have violated; is that true?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q That's a statute that you yourself have
violated; is that true?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
A The Fifth.
Q You've observed Jeffrey Epstein violate
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true?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the tbnn.
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Q Have you ever discussed with Jeffrey
Epstein that the fact that he is a child
molester?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
A Fifth.
Q Have you asked Jeffrey Epstein why he
has made you interact with underage minor females
in a sexual manner?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
A Fifth.
Q During the litigation of these civil
eases, has Jeffrey Epstein indicated to you an
intent to continue to molest children?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
A Fifth.
Q Is it your intent to continue to commit
sex crimes against minors?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the font
A Fifth.
Q in addition to your being named as a
co-conspirator of Jeffrey Epstein regarding his
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co-conspirator in the non-prosecution agreement
related to Jeffrey Epstein's crimes against
minors?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Do you know
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Q These are all people who also
participated in Jeffrey Epstein's scheme to lure
underage females to him for sex; is that true?
MIL YAREMA: Object to the form.
A Fifth.
Q You and these other co-conspirators
played various roles to make sure Jeffrey Epstein
was able to engage in sexual contact or conduct,
with underage minor females on an everyday basis;
is that true?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
A Fifth.
Q Since the time you first met Jeffrey
Epstein, has his appetite for underage minor
females always been the same?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Jeffrey Epstein; is that true?
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is somebody who you
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Cowles and your observations of them, you believe
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Q By that I mean, have you observed
Jeffrey Epstein to interact sexually with
underage minor females literally on a daily
basis?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Wasn't it one of your specific job
duties to make sure that he had different
underage minor females to molest on a daily
basis?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
A Fifth.
Q In addition to the improper sexual
contact between Jeffrey Epstein and underage
minor females at the West Paint Beach house, you
have observed similar improper and illegal
contact by Jeffrey Epstein in his New York
mansion, as well, correct?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
A Fifth.
Q In fact, he operates a very similar
scheme up there, in that he schedules these
appointments with underage minor females, under
the guise that it is going to be a massage; is
that correct?
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Q When he is in his ranch In New Mexico,
similarly, Jeffrey Epstein is engaging in sex
with underage minor females front that local area
as well, and that's something you've observed?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q On his island, particularly, lie has
flown underage minor females to the island for
underage kid-type orgies; is that true?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the fonn.
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Q You're shaking your head Indicating, at
least to me, indicating that you may not agree
with what I'm saying, and I would love to give
you the chance to explain it to us.
MR. GOLDBERGER: I appreciate that, but
don't —
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when Jeffrey Epstein commits these crimes against
children?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the font
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Q Is there any way for you to escape being
his sex slave?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the font
A Fifth.
Q Have you ever wanted to cooperate with
the authorities, so that you could escape being
his sex slave?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the fonn.
A Fifth.
Q Do you represent to others that you arc
his girlfriend or his sex slave, or some other
designation?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the toms.
A Fifth.
Q Isn't it true that you recently
represented to the Probation Officer that you
were his live-in girlfriend?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
A Fifth.
Q When Probation calls the house, are you
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allow him to come to the telephone?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the foam
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Q Isn't it true you're under strict orders
to tell Probation that?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
A Fifth.
Q Isn't ft true you've heard Jeffrey
Epstein tell you on numerous occasions, regarding
the age of the girls that he wants to his house,
for the purposes of sexually molesting, the
phrase he uses is "the younger the better,"
true?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the fonn.
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Q I asked you earlier about E.W. out of
turn as a result of an objection related to your
sexual orientation, but I'll talk specifically
about E.W. right now. You know who that is,
right?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
A Fifth.
Q That is somebody you observed Jeffrey
Epstein to call for the purposes of getting her
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MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q The first time she went to Jeffrey
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MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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minor females in a sexual manner, isn't it true
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between 14 and 17 years of age for her; is that
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that Jeffrey Epstein would participate in the
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sexual acts and the act would be over upon
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Jeffrey Epstein ejaculating, correct?
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pleasing Jeffrey Epstein sexually, correct?
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to be sexually molested?
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the purposes of his sexual gratification?
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you while Jeffrey Epstein was using vibrators
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and/or dildos on you?
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females?
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access to underage minor females?
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Q When is the first time that you observed
Jeffrey Epstein's method of enticing or Inducing
underage minor females into sexual acts with him
inside his bedroom?
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minor female was brought to Jeffrey F.pstein's
house, typically
or Adriana or
yourself would lead that underage minor female to
Jeffrey Epstein's bedroom and leave them alone in
the room; is that true?
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Q Then Jeffrey Epstein would appear either
naked or wearing a towel; is that true?
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operation, every single time, and that's
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toys and vibrators on other underage minor
females, correct?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q You have observed Jeffrey Epstein
digitally penetrate the vagina of underage minor
females, including E.W., correct?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the fonn.
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Q As part of his plan to avoid detection
by law enforcement, you have observed Jeffrey
Epstein to pay these underage minor females to he
quiet, correct?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the fonn.
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Q And this is something that he has told
you he does, for the purposes of grooming these
underage minor females, and avoiding law
enforcement detection, correct?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Then he would perform one or more lewd
or lascivious or sexual acts on the underage
minor female. Is that true?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q And you have observed Jeffrey Epstein
engage in sexual interaction with underage minor
females on hundreds and hundreds of occasions,
correct?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the fonn.
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Q And you have observed Jeffrey Epstein
using vibrators and sexual toys on underage
minors, true?
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had access to a master
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list of underage minor females names and phone
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numbers so that they could be called?
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females through a modeling agency?
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no reason whatsoever and has nothing to do
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with me or the witness.
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where I am now.
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Q You know Jean Luc Brunel, right?
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question.
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have been made to perform on sexually?
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Q Isn't it true that yourself, Chislalne
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Maxwell and
had access to a master
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Q Jean Luc Brunel is somebody that you
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numbers so they could be called for the purpose
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know to also be a child molester, true?
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of coming to Jeffrey Epstein's house to be
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sexually molested?
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Q This is somebody who for years the
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public has known of Jean Luc Brunel as a child
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Q How many underage minor females are on
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molester, true?
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that master list?
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Epstein and Jean Luc Brunel have in common, is
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minor females on that master list?
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their obsession for underage minor females,
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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correct?
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A Fifth.
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Q Is that master list saved on a computer
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system, as has been testified to in the past?
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mechanism used by Jeffrey Epstein to gain access
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to underage minor females for sex, true?
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Q Has Jeffrey Epstein talked to you about
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MR. YAREMA: Object to the fonn.
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the success of his scheme to procure underage
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minor females?
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Q I read you the statute earlier on Lewd
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and Lascivious Molestation, Chapter 800.04, and
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that's something that you have witnessed Jeffrey
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Epstein violate on hundreds of occasions,
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molests an underage minor female, then offers
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them additional money if they will bring hint
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other underage minor females to molest; are you
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familiar with that system?
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Jeffrey Epstein specifically violate, against
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MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Also a statute you have witnessed
Jeffrey Epstein violate against then minor,
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Epstein's house, and he is using all resources to
try to intimidate and harass her; Is that true?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q in fact, has he talked to you about his
tactic of intimidating and harassing any victims
that come forward against him, regarding the
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sexual abuse that they endured by him?
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Epstein liked or likes; isn't that true?
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Q Would you agree that Jeffrey Epstein
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contributed to the delinquency of these various
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minors that he sexually abused?
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molesting her the first day that he met her,
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Q in addition to abusing them, he also
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encouraged them to return to him to receive more
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sexual abuse and encouraged them into a life of
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prostitution, true?
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would call them; is that true?
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Q Flow many underage minor females have you
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observed Jeffrey Epstein engage in sex acts with
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to his house, over 50 girls between the ages of
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on any of his airplanes?
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12 and 15 years old; is that true?
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Q Have you engaged in sexual acts with any
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Q Each of these girls, aged 12 to 15, you
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underage minor females on Jeffrey Epstein's
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observed come into the house, go into Jeffrey
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airplanes?
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Epstein's bedroom and leave the house after being
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sexually molested, true?
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Q How many tines has Jeffrey Epstein
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talked to you about the reasons why he sexually
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molested herself, she was enticed or coerced into
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bringing her friends over, to also be sexually
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molested, true?
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Q Didn't he tell you that it is his intent
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to harm these minors in hopes of gaining
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psychological advantage over them?
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Q Has Jeffrey Epstein talked to you about
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an FBI statement that was given by L.M.?
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Q Are you aware that Jeffrey Epstein pled
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Q lie has also told you that that FBI
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guilty to two felonies related to his Interaction
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statement that was favorable for him is
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with minors?
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completely false; isn't that true?
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MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q And as a result he was incarcerated, and
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Q Has he spoken to you about the fact that
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as we spoke about earlier, you visited hint in
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she is now telling the complete story and
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jail on more than 50 occasions, correct?
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accurate account as to what happened at Jeffrey
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Q Aren't your observations with Jeffrey
Epstein's interactions with E.W., wouldn't you
agree he coerced her into a life of prostitution?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q And based on your observations of
Jeffrey Epstein's interactions with L.M.,
wouldn't you agree that Jeffrey Epstein coerced
her into a life of prostitution?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q And with respect to Jane Doe and E.W.
and L.M., wouldn't you agree that Jeffrey Epstein
forced these girls to be a prostitute for him?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Would you agree that Jeffrey Epstein's
actions against E.W., L.M. and Jane Doe, were
intentional, deliberate and reckless?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Would you agree that that intentional,
deliberate and reckless conduct by Jeffrey
Epstein against L.M., E.W. and Jane Doe was
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children?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Do you know Sergio Cordero?
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criminal enterprise that Is designed to molest
underage minor females, to be organized?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
A Fifth.
Q Is your role in that criminal
arrangement to molest underage minor females, to
help organize?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the fonn.
A Fifth.
Q As part of that organization, isn't it
true that you, as well as various staff members,
took meticulous messages regarding appointments
and scheduling underage minor females to come
over to be sexually molested?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Do you know Mike Sanka?
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likely to cause severe emotional distress?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
A Fifth.
Q And isn't it a fact that Jeffrey Epstein
has specifically told you that it Is his intent
to cause severe emotional distress, as it
weakened his victims?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
A Fifth.
Q Ilas Jeffrey Epstein talked to you about
your role in what he calls a criminal enterprise?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
A Fifth.
Q Has lie talked to you about his
organization being a criminal enterprise, that
you need to help protect?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
A Fifth.
Q What does Jeffrey Epstein do for a
living?
A Fifth.
Q Does he profit from international sex
trafficking of children?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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carbon copy that were positioned or stationed in
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several places around Jeffrey Epstein's home near
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the telephone; you're familiar with those,
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right?
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Q Since I'm assuming that you are going to
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take the Fifth on each and every question related
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to any messages, I will show you only one, which
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will be marked, this one page, as Plaintiff's
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Exhibit 1. The date on the message that I will
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be showing you is 8/21, August 21, 2005.
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marked as Plaintiff's Exhibit number I for
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identification, as of this date.)
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Ghisiaine Maxwell's sexual interaction with Jane
Doe-102 when she was a minor?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the fonn.
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females that was trafficked basically around the
globe to be sexually exploited and abused; is
that correct?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the fonn.
here at 4:00 p.m.;" Is that right?
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Q Was that typical of Jeffrey Epstein and
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Ghisiaine Maxwell to sexually abuse minors on
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Jeffrey Epstein's airplane?
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Q That's an underage minor female that was
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scheduled to be molested at Jeffrey Epstein's
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and Jeffrey Epstein to prostitute or pimp out
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house?
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underage minors to friends?
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Q You scheduled that act of molestation;
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Q By "friends," lent talking specifically
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about people of royalty, politicians,
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academicians, businessmen and other professional
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or personal acquaintances?
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Q And Britney will be at the house at 4:00
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pan. Britney is another underage minor female;
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birthday when one of his friends sent to him
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Q That's somebody else that you were
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of Jeffrey Epstein sexually abusing them?
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scheduling to come to his house at 4:00 p.m. for
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Jeffrey Epstein to engage in sexual acts with
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her, while she was an underage minor, true?
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Q How many occasions have you observed
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Jeffrey Epstein to receive as gifts front friends,
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underage minor females for the purposes of hint
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Q Do you know Les Wexner?
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sexually abusing them?
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A Fifth.
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Q That's somebody that you know owns and 12
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operates the Victoria's Secret, the Limited?
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Q These three 12-year olds were from
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France. Were they sent to hint on his birthday by
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Jean Luc Brunel or by somebody else?
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Q Is that somebody that you know to own
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Victoria's Secret or operate Victoria's Secret?
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Q Have you ever been made to engage in sex
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Q Do you know if Jeffrey Epstein still
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with 12-year olds?
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talks with Leslie Wexner?
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MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Is it true that Jeffrey Epstein makes
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Q Do you know Jane Doe-102?
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you dress up as a 12-year old?
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A Fifth.
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Q Are you aware of Jeffrey Epstein and
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slave, isn't it true that he asks you or requests
of you to dress younger than 12 at times?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Have you seen naked photographs of the
underage minor females with whom Jeffrey Epstein
has engaged in sex acts?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Are there hidden cameras in any of
Jeffrey Epstein's homes, that you know to have
taken surreptitious videos or photographs of
underage minors?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Does Jeffrey Epstein still watch
pornography to this day?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
A Fifth.
Q Does Jeffrey Epstein watch homemade
pornographic videos of underage minors engaging
in sex orgies on his island?
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Q Are you aware that you're listed as a
passenger on many flights, along with Jeffrey
Epstein on his private airplane?
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Q Certainly comes as no surprise to you,
since you were on his airplane on numerous
occasions, correct?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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direction, from Jeffrey Epstein's house, to avoid
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and some other person
took those computers to avoid Jeffrey Epstein —
to avoid the authorities obtaining the evidence
contained on those computers, correct?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Who are the persons along with Adriana
took the computers front Jeffrey
Epstein's house prior to the execution of the
search warrant?
YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Where are those computers today?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Were they taken by his investigator,
BM Riley?
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with, because you have been to Jeffrey Epstein's
house on many occasions with
correct?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q In fact, do you remember there being a
burglary of Jeffrey Epstein's house where he
actually called the police to investigate the
burglary?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the fonn.
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Q And during the police investigation
inside Jeffrey Epstein's house, you were speaking
with
both in person, at Jeffrey
Epstein's house, correct?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the fonn.
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Q Is this another person that Jeffrey
Epstein, when she was a minor, violated
sexually?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Do you still speak withl
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Q Do you know Bill Clinton?
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Q You have been on Jeffrey Epstein's
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for the purposes of engaging in sex acts with
Jane Doe?
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Q Generally, isn't it true Jeffrey Epstein
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destination he landed?
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Q Do you know Aline Weber?
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victim at one point In time of Jeffrey Epstein
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bedroom, correct?
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sexual acts with minors on a daily basis,
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outside of the State, to engage in sexual acts
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abuse minors despite Alan Dershowitz being a
guest in the house?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Alan Dershowitz never engaged in any
sexual activity with these underage minors; isn't
that true?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Have you been made to have sex with
Ghislaine Maxwell?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Do you know Emmy Taylor?
A Fifth.
Q Similar to you being Jeffrey Epstein's
sex slave, is Emmy Taylor, or was Emmy Taylor
Ghislaine Maxwell's sex slave?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the fonn.
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Q Ghislaine Maxwell is somebody who you
know to be bi-sexual, true?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Did you sign a confidentiality agreement
with Jeffrey Epstein?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
A Fifth.
Q When is the last time that you observed
Jeffrey Epstein have sex with a minor?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
A Fifth.
Q Since being on probation, has Jeffrey
Epstein been able to, or has he flown to his
Island?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
A Fifth.
Q To your knowledge, has Jeffrey Epstein
flown to New York while on probation or community
control?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Isn't it true that he has flown both to
New York and to his island, and you have
accompanied hint on those trips, since he was on
community control?
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underage minor females, right?
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A Fifth.
Q Nov, you are the next participant In
that activity, meaning you have been groomed to
enjoy and appreciate the acts of sex with
underage minors, true?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
A Fifth.
Q Has Jeffrey Epstein instructed you to
lie to his Probation Officer in any way?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
A Fifth.
Q Mr. Visoskl testified that you took a
helicopter flight within the last year with
Jeffrey Epstein to Miami. Do you remember that
flight?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Isn't It also true that Jeffrey Epstein
has Indicated to you that he will always engage
in sex acts with underage minor females?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
A Fifth.
Q In fact, that's something that he has
told you, that he believes he Is entitled to do;
isn't that right?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
A Fifth.
Q Isn't It true that Jeffrey Epstein
believes and has told you that if he doesn't
physically force the underage minor female into
any act, then he is entitled to engage in sex
with any underage minor female despite the age?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the lone.
A Fifth.
Q What is the youngest female you have
witnessed or observed Jeffrey Epstein to engage
in sex with?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
A Fifth.
Q Do you have a bank account at Chase Bank
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millionaire, and to lead that life, you were only
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required to be Jeffrey Epstein's sex slave and to
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bring Jeffrey Epstein other slaves?
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Q Is this 301 East 66th Street apartment
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still an apartment that you frequent today?
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himself as Jeffrey Epstein's personal assistant,
right?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q That's somebody who you know to work for
or at the Florida Science Foundation, which is
owned by Jeffrey Epstein, correct?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the fonn.
A Fifth.
Q It Is also somebody that you know to
have stayed at Jeffrey Epstein's house with
correct?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
A Fifth.
Q This is somebody that has been
involved — Story Cowles is somebody who's been
involved sexually with
for at least
a year, right?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
A Fifth.
Q In fact, you know that they took a trip
around the world together and during that trip
they discussed Jeffrey Epstein and his
interaction with underage minor females,
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you know who those female, females are?
MR_ YAREMA: Object to the fonn.
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Q Are those females listed generically
rather than specifically because they are
underage minor females engaging in sex with you
or Jeffrey Epstein?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the fonn.
A Fifth.
Q Is Story Cowles someone that you see on
a regular basis at Jeffrey Epstein's house?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the font
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MR. YAREMA: Object to the font
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MR. EDWARDS: Done. I don't have
anything else.
MR. GOLDBERGER: Okay.
MR. HOROWITZ: I do, why don't we take a
short break.
MR. GOLDBERGER: We are stopping at
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MR. HOROWITZ: What?
MR. GOLDBERGER: 11:50.
MR. HOROWITZ: I kind of remember that
e-mail.
THE VIDEOGRAPHER: Off the video record.
(Pause in the proceedings.)
THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We are back on the
video reconl at 11:18 a.m.)
(At this time Robert Critton joined the
proceedings.)
Q Ms.
between 2001 and 2006,
did Jeffrey Epstein instruct you to place
telephone calls to arrange for girls under the
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age of 18 to come to his home for his sexual
gratification?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Between 2001 and 2006 did you, In fact,
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sexually abused Y.L. in his Palm Beach home in
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place telephone calls to arrange for girls under
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sexually abused M.L.?
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making arrangements for Y.L. to come to his home?
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arrangements by telephone to bring M.L. to
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Jeffrey Epstein's home?
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Q Did Jeffrey Epstein tell you it was his
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MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Did Jeffrey Epstein tell you that it was
his intention to sexually abuse M. during the
course of her visits to his home?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Did Jeffrey Epstein tell you that he
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Q Did you, in fact, call A.G. to come to
Jeffrey Epstein's home and give him a massage in
a sexual nature in 2001 or 2002?
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arrange for A.C. to conic to Jeffrey Epstein's
home for a massage of a sexual nature?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the Iona.
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Q Did Jeffrey Epstein tell you it was his
intent during the course of A.G.'s visit to his
home to persuade, induce or entice her to engage
in sexual activity?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Are you personally aware that n teenage
girl named an A.C., came to Jeffrey Epstein's
Palm Beach home in approximately 2001 or 2002?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Did Jeffrey Epstein admit to you that he
sexually abused A.C.. at his home while she was
still a child?
MR. YAREMA: Object to die fonn.
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Q In 2001 or 2002, did
inform
you that she received a telephone call in which
she was referred to A.C., who would be willing to
tome to Jeffrey Epstein's home for sexual
activity?
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Q Are you personally aware that a girl
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approximately August 2004?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the font
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Q Did Jeffrey Epstein admit to you that he
had sexually abused
when she was only 13
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MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q In 2004 did you participate In a
telephone call wherein you arranged for M. to
come to Jeffrey Epsteln's home for the purpose of
giving him a massage that was to be sexual in
nature?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Did Jeffrey Epstein instruct you to
communicate by telephone and make arrangements
for M. to come to his home for sexual activity
while she was still a child?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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sexual activity at his home while she was still a
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to conic to his home?
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F.P., to engage in sexual activity with him?
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Q Do you know an individual named C.L.?
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A Fifth.
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Q Have you seen B.B. at the defendant's
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Palm Beach property?
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home, did Jeffrey Epstein tell you that he
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succeeded in enticing, engaging and persuading
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F.P. to engage in sexual activity with him while
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she was still a child?
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Palm Beach property?
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girl named J.M. came to Jeffrey Epstein's Paint
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Beach home in approximately 2001 or 2002?
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Q Have you ever engaged in a sexual act
with C.L.... C.L.?
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Q Do you know if C.L.'s sexual activity
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Jeffrey Epstein, with 8.6.?
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Q When you participated in sexual acts
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with each minor, how did you feel?
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Jeffrey Epstein, with C.L.?
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Q Have you ever physically touched B.B.?
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addition this is irrelevant and has already
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inappropriate question. That's my
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confused?
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Epstein?
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the time of the sexual abuse?
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whose name is A.H., which shall appear as A.il. in
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one from the kitchen upstairs to the master
bedroom and massage area?
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photographs on the staircase?
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join in by performing oral sex on one or the
other of you — you or AM.?
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Q Do you recall that also happening,
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meaning the oral sex, being performed on the
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Drillo Way to provide a massage to Jeffrey
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Epstein?
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Epstein held A.H. down on the massage table and
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while holding her inserted his penis into A.H.'s
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vagina?
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nature?
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Q Do you recall he stated that he wanted
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Jeffrey Epstein's house?
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not to cross, in their encounters?
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Jeffrey Epstein's penis?
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arrived?
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table and began pumping his penis into her
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vagina, that she screamed "No"?
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Q Do you recall Jeffrey Epstein
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instructing A.H. to remove her clothes and join
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the two of you in bed?
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Epstein stopped anti apologized?
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Q Do you recall that you and Jeffrey
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her $1,000 for that visit?
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to use on each other?
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end of a play performance during her senior year?
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Q Did Jeffrey Epstein watch you and A.H.
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having sex while he masturbated?
for one minute?
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Langino left the proceedings.)
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vibrators and strap-on — use vibrators on A.H.?
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Q Were you present in October 2005 when
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strap-on penises?
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Epstein's home?
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Q Did you see Jeffrey Epstein perform oral
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sex on A.H. numerous times?
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would be a raid at that time; were you not?
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Q Did Jeffrey Epstein pay A.H. an
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Q Do you recall that each time a new toy
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nude photographs, sex toys, computer records from
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give massages, Jeffrey Epstein paid A.H.
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358 El Brillo Way prior to the raid?
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additional money?
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Q Do you know who removed those objects at
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that time?
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watching you and A.H. perform sexual acts?
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Q Do you remember that at times Jeffrey
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Epstein paid A.II. to just sleep in his bed in the
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provided A.H. with gifts of purses and
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nude?
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bathingsuits?
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MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Do you recall at times lie paid her to
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lose ten pounds?
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Q Do you remember the houseman at that
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time as being Alfredo Rodriguez?
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Q Do you recall Jeffrey Epstein expressing
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interest in
college ambitions?
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Q Were you aware Jeffrey Epstein
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Q Have you known Jeffrey Epstein to brag
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about donations he's made to colleges like NYU,
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photographs, nude photographs of you?
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while nude?
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Q Did you know that Jeffrey Epstein
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promised to help her get info one of those
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the nude?
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Q Do you know whether he did help?
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Q Do you know whether those photographs
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were ever developed?
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Q Do you know whether he offered to pay
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some of her college expenses?
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Q Do you know what kind of camera Jeffrey
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Epstein liked to use when taking photographs of
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Q Did you ever observe Jeffrey Epstein
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women posing in the nude?
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working with A.II. on her college applications?
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Q Did you ever hear here Jeffrey Epstein
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Q Did you ever see A.H. Just hanging out
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tell A.II. that she needed to lose ten pounds?
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at Jeffrey Epstein's house studying while nude?
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Q Did you call A.H. once and ask her to go
shopping with you for Jeffrey Epstein on his
birthday?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the fonn.
A Fifth.
Q Did you and A.N. purchase adult sex toys
to use for Jeffrey Epstein's birthday, as a show,
for him?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the coml.
A Fifth.
Q Are you aware that Jeffrey Epstein told
A.H. he would pay her to bring other young girls
to give him massages?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the fonn.
A Fifth.
Q Do you know that Jeffrey Epstein paid
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Q Do you know if typically girls who
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THE VIDE•OGRAPHER: Can you speak up?
THE WITNESS: (Adjusts microphone.)
Q Did A.H. ever tell you that David
Copperfield tried to feel her butt during dinner?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the (ann.
A Fifth.
Q Did you ever hear Jeffrey Epstein
telling any of the young women who came to give
him massages, that he was a brain scientist?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
A Fifth.
Q Did you know A.D.?
A Fifth.
Q And from now on I will use the initials
A.D. Do you know that A.D. visited Jeffrey
Epstein at 358 El Brillo Way some 15 to 20 times?
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MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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MR. GOLDBERGER: I guess we will have to
take a break now, if that's all right with
you.
MS. EZELL: Okay.
THE VIDEOGRAPHER: I I:50 a.m., going off
the video record.
MR. GOLDBERGER: I will be done at I:15
so we can go until 1:30.
(Pause in the proceedings.)
THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We are back on the
video record at 1:36 p.m.
BY MS. EZELL:
Q Ms.
did you ever have dinner
at Jeffrey Epstein's house, with David
Copperfield as a guest, when A.H. was present?
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Q Have you met David Copperfield?
A Fifth.
Q Have you ever been given tickets to go
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she was there to give a massage?
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Q Did you know that at the time she was
visiting Mr. Epstein and providing massages, she
was under the age of 18?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
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Q Do you recall being introduced to A.D.
by Mr. Epstein?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the fonn.
A Fifth.
Q Do you recall that Jeffrey Epstein
instructed you and A.D. to kiss and fondle each
other around the breasts and buttocks while
massaging him?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the fonn.
A Fifth.
Q Did you ever see Mr. Epstein use a large
vibrator/massager on A.D.?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the form.
A Fifth.
Q Did Jeffrey Epstein ever ask you to
purchase a digital camera for him to give A.D.?
MR. YAREMA: Object to the fonn.
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Q Ms.MM. through the whole day
you've taken the Fifth on just about every single
question. Is there any reason why we should not
presume that the answer to these questions would
incriminate you?
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Q The reason that you have taken the Fifth
is because the questions you have been asked
would have been answered in the affirmative and
you're afraid of prosecution for your
involvement, true?
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I. TERRI BECKER, a Registered
Professional Reporter and Notary Public for the
Suite of Florida at Large, do hereby certify that
I
tied the videotaped deposition of
the WITNESS, called by the PLAINTIFF
in the above•entitled action; that the witness
was duly sworn by mc; that the foregoing pages.
numbered from Ito 104, inclusive, constitute a
true record of the deposition by said witness.
I further certify that I ant not attorney
or counsel or any of the pities, nor a relative
or employee of any attorney or counsel connected
with the action, nor financially interested in
the action.
WITNESS MY HAND and official seal in the
City of West Palm Beach, County of Palm Beach,
State of Florida. this 19th day of April 1010.
TERRI BECKER, Registered
Professional Reporter and
Notary Public, State of Florida
at Large. My Commission expires
March 13,2011.
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MR. EDWARDS: Thanks, Jack.
MR. GOLDBERGER: Okay.
THE VIDEOGRAPHER: Off the video record
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THE COURT REPORTER: You're ordering
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MR. EDWARDS: Yes. Copies?
MS. EZELL: Yes.
MR. YAREMA: Yes:
THE COURT REPORTER: And Adam wanted it;
is that right?
MR. EDWARDS: Yes.
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