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Bruce Hood Colin Blakemore , Alfonso Tom Stoppard ndolph Nesse, M.D." lbert-Lszl Barabsi Geoffrey Carr , Alex Pentland im Renters- , Freeman Dyson Subject: Weekend reading - heads up - "Napoleon Chagnon: Blood Is Their Argument" Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 20:52:54 +0000 Here's the latest EDGE event, "Napoleon Chagnon: Blood Is Their Argument", with Steven Pinker, Richard Wrangham, Daniel Dennett, David Haig, and an Introduction by Richard Dawkins. It not hyperbole to say that it's perhaps the most significant event in our sixteen year history. Great weekend reading and viewing, all 30,000 words and several hours of video. Get busy! Official publication to the EDGE list is Monday morning. It's up now on the EDGE home page (Permalink: http://www.edge.org/conversation/napoleon-chagnon-blood-is-their-argument). Enjoy! And help us the word out to your social network followers - Twitter hashtag #blood. EFTA00694840 JB "Napoleon Chagnon is a Living World Treasure. Arguably our greatest anthropologist." - Richard Dawkins, from the Introduction NAPOLEON CHAGNON: BLOOD IS THEIR ARGUMENT An Edge Special Event Napoleon Chagnon, Steven Pinker, Richard Wrangham, Daniel C. Dennett, David Haig Introduction by Richard Dawkins Permalink: http://www.edge.org/conversation/napoleon-chagnon-blood-is-their-argument [Thanks to Steven Pinker for initiating and facilitating this Edge Special Event with Napoleon Chagnon, the last of the great ethnographers.] THE REALITY CLUB: Lionel Tiger, Paul Seabright, Dominic Johnson, Azar Gat, Daniel Everett INTRODUCTION By Richard Dawkins Chagnon's extraordinary body of work will long be mined, not just by anthropologists but by psychologists, humanists, litterateurs, scientists of all kinds: mined for ... who knows what insights into the deep roots of our humanity? Napoleon Chagnon is a Living World Treasure. Arguably our greatest anthropologist, he is brave on two fronts. As a field worker in the Amazon forest he has lived, intimately and under conditions of great privation, with The Fierce People at considerable physical danger to himself. But the wooden clubs and poison-tipped arrows of the Yanomam6 were matched by the verbal clubs and toxic barbs of his anthropologist colleagues in the journal pages and conference halls of the United States. And it is not hard to guess which armamentarium was the more disagreeable to him. Chagnon committed the unforgivable sin, cardinal heresy in the eyes of a certain kind of social scientist: he took Darwin seriously. Along with a few friends and colleagues, Chagnon studied the up-to-date literature on natural selection theory, and with brilliant success he applied the ideas of Fisher, Hamilton, Trivers and other heirs of Darwin to a human tribe which probably ran as close to the cutting edge of natural selection as any in the world. It is sobering to reflect on how unconventional a step this was: science bursting into the quasi-literary world of the anthropology in which the young Chagnon was trained. Still today, in many American departments of social science, for a young researcher to announce a serious interest in Darwin's dangerous idea—even an inclination towards scientific thinking at all—can come close to career suicide. In Chagnon's case the animosity spilled over from mere academic disagreement to personal slander, which was not merely untrue but diametrically opposite to the truth about this ethnographer and his decent and humane relationship with his subjects and friends. The episode serves as a dark lesson in what can happen when ideology is allowed to poison the well of academic study. While it is thankfully in the past, it blighted Chagnon's career, and I don't know whether the lesson for social science has been adequately learned. Chagnon came along at just the right time for the Yanomam6 and for scientific anthropology. Encroaching civilisation was about to close the last window on a tribal world that embodied vanishing clues to our own prehistory: a world of forest "gardens", of kin-groups fissioning into genetically salient sub-groups, of male combat over women and trans-generational revenge, complex alliances and enmities; webs of calculated EFTA00694841 obligation, debt, grudge and gratitude that might underlie much of our social psychology and even law, ethics and economics. Chagnon's extraordinary body of work will long be mined, not just by anthropologists but by psychologists, humanists, litterateurs, scientists of all kinds: mined for . . . who knows what insights into the deep roots of our humanity? In his unique role as salon-host and impresario for science, John Brockman has performed what will come to be seen as an enduring service, by bringing Napoleon Chagnon together with four of today's leading Third Culture intellectuals: Daniel Dennett, Steven Pinker, Richard Wrangham and David Haig. Separately and in teams, these penetrating minds, combining deep scholarship with a rare ability to communicate and entertain, converse with Napoleon Chagnon and shed and reflect light on the life-work of a great anthropologist and a brave man. —Richard Dawkins PART ONE: NAPOLEON CHAGNON & STEVEN PINKER (WITH DANIEL C. DENNETT & DAVID HAIG) "I first walked into the Yanomamo village thinking I was going to do the perfunctory one-year field research or maybe less, go back to my university, write my doctoral dissertation, publish a book maybe, after two or three years of thinking about it, then return to the tribe ten years later and do the expected thing about, "Woe is me, what has the world and technology done to my people?" But the minute I walked into my first Yanomamo village I realized that I was witnessing a really precious thing, and I knew I would have to come back again and again. And I did." EDGE Video [1:00:58] DISCUSSION: CHAGNON, PINKER, DENNETT, HAIG "The Yanomamo are very valuable now as a commodity. They are the largest most interesting and romanticized tribe in the entire Amazon basin, maybe in the world. They live in an area that is threatened by ecological destruction, so there are people who are interested in saving the rain forest, and people who are interested in saving the natives. And these groups collaborate with each other. Everybody wants the Yanomamo in their portfolio." EDGE Video [30:43] PART TWO: NAPOLEON CHAGNON & RICHARD WRANGHAM (WITH DANIEL C. DENNETT & DAVID HAIG) "What I've discovered is that life was very much filled with terror of your neighbors, constantly in a position— sort of like Hobbes' argument—foul weather is not a shower or two but a tendency thereto for months on end. So you always have your eye open to the frontier and try to make sure that the guys out there are on the other side of the moat." EDGE Video [33:52] DISCUSSION: CHAGNON, WRANGHAM, DENNETT, HAIG Big villages lord over small villages. So if you're seeking an ally who will protect you from the buggers up the hill who are bigger than you, you're at a disadvantage because in order to get allies, you've got to give women to them. It's an economics game where the smaller village has to pay up front for the privileges of the alliance, and the bigger village tends to default on many of its agreements. So big villages tend to exploit small villages. It's always a good idea to live in a big village; however, it's like living in a powder keg. EDGE Video [20:47] EFTA00694842 NAPOLEON CHAGNON is a renowned anthropologist who is most widely recognized for his study of the Yanomamo tribes in the Amazon. He is a professor of anthropology at the University of Missouri; Author, Noble Savages: My Life Among Two Dangerous Tribes—the Yanomamo and the Anthropologists. STEVEN PINKER, psychologist, is Johnstone Family Professor, Department of Psychology; Harvard University; Author, The Better Angles of Our Nature: Why Violence Has Declined; The Blank Slate: The Modern Denial of Human Nature. RICHARD WRANGHAM is Ruth Moore Professor of Biological Anthropology, Curator of Primate Behavioral Biology at Harvard University; Author, Catching Fire: How Cooking Made Us Human; (coauthor) Demonic Males: Apes, and the Origins Of Human Violence. DANIEL C. DENNETT is Austin B. Fletcher Professor of Philosophy, & Co-Director, Center for Cognitive Studies, Tufts University; Author, Intuition Pumps and Other Tools for Thinking; Darwin's Dangerous Idea: Evolution and the Meanings of Life. DAVID HAIG, evolutionary geneticist/theorist, is Associate Professor of Biology in Harvard's Department of Organismic and Evolutionary Biology, with an interest in conflicts and conflict resolution within the genome, and genomic imprinting and relations between parents and offspring; Author, Genomic Imprinting and Kinship. RICHARD DAWKINS, evolutionary biologist, is Emeritus Professor of the Public Understanding of Science, Oxford; Author, The Greatest Show on Earth; The Selfish Gene. He was recently ranked #1 in Prospect Magazine's poll of "World Thinkers 2013". THE REALITY CLUB Lionel Tiger: "This began as an exhilarating exercise celebrating the verve and intelligence of a colleague and friend who has made serious contribution to understanding human beings. However it unexpectedly veered to a mood of rue and woe about the stolid incompetence of countless disciplineless scholars as they survey the human condition." ... Paul Seabright: "Probably no single phrase cost Napoleon Chagnon more enemies than when he wrote that the Yanomamo live « in a state of chronic warfare o. More than four decades on, the evidence that many human societies without a state have lived with high levels of violence over long periods is now very strong." ... Dominic Johnson: "Force is a means of achieving the external ends of states because there exists no consistent, reliable process of reconciling the conflicts of interest that inevitably arise among similar units in a condition of anarchy." This was Kenneth Waltz, one of the fathers of international relations, writing about the behavior of nation-states in the international system. But it could just as well have been written about the Yanomamo, the "fierce people" of the Amazon." ... Azar Gat: "Napoleon A. Chagnon's made a seminal and supreme contribution to both anthropology and the application of evolutionary theory to the understanding of human society. I shall not repeat the lavish praises justly bestowed on his life's work, to which we are all hugely indebted. Instead, I would like to point out one misstep he took in the course of his controversies on the causes of primitive warfare, which somewhat diverted the argument in a wrong direction with respect to both that subject and the actual meaning and significance of evolutionary theory." Daniel L. Everett: "...What impressed me about Nap's writing was what has impressed generations of anthropologists, students, and other intellectuals-his effortless interweaving of personal experience with EFTA00694843 rigorous ethnographic description of the people he was living among, the "sons of god" (what "Yan—omam" means in English, according to one Yanomam, Davi Kopenawa whom I met many years ago, though I haven't seen this definition elsewhere)." ... John Brockman obile President Edge Foundation, Inc 260 Fifth Avenue fax: New York, NY 10001 Visit EDGE at: http://www.edge.org EFTA00694844