DS9 Document EFTA00765187

From: on behalf of Ben Goertzel a To: Jeffrey Epstein <jeevacation®gmail.com> Subject: Re: Happy Birthday!! .. etc. ;) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 06:01:17 +0000 One more thing .. Those guys would different issue. They think I'm a project as being ideas underlying your "high school teacher recommendation letter" analogy is not apropos. write me **great** job recommendation letters if I asked them. That's a brilliant guy, but they aren't going to endorse somebody *else's* AGI the secret sauce, since they of course are wedded to the (rather different) their own work... On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Ben Goertzel •z: > wrote: > Maybe I should wait till after your birthday to pursue the AI > discussion, but it's fresh in my mind now so I'll send this email now > ... if you don't feel like reading it on your birthday you'll wait ;-) > Seriously, my view is > -- those letters show that, in the view of some prestigious and rather > conservative AI profs, this is not a bogus project. It's a real, > solid research project ... it's good AI research > -- whether the project will lay the golden egg, those profs did not > have the info to judge. And unless someone pays them a bunch of $$ to > study my project carefully, they are not going to pay enough attention > to gather enough info to judge > • How **I** think you should look at this is: "if Ben has even a 5% > chance of success, it's worth the $$, because the upside potential is > TREMENDOUS" > • And I think you SHOULD consider it to have a 5% chance of success ... greater... > • The fact that these AI profs think it's interesting but aren't > convinced of its transformative potential, doesn't mean anything > bad... if you think so, you don't understand academics ;-p > • If the $$ is an issue for you, I can do this for $500K/year here in > China, using some of my Brazilian team as well. > $1.5M for the first true breakthrough in AI history, and a big step > toward the Singularity ;-) ... it's a lot of $$ to most people, but > not much to you. What else are you donating to that has the same > potential? The labs you've funded at Harvard and MIT and Stanford are > good labs, but they're not going to change the world.... My project > will, if someone with $$ and vision will fund it... > But, you already know what I think and feel.... I'm not a salesman; > and I don't really know how else to convince you, except to somehow > build the damn thing on somebody else's dollar, and then along with > everyone else you'll see in retrospect that I actually wasn't full of > shit ;p EFTA00765187 > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Ben Goertzel > wrote: >> Oh, by the way, I was so concerned about my AI project I didn't notice >> you mentioned your birthday in the chat... >> >> Happy birthday!! ;-) >> >> Now if you want to have 100000 more birthdays you should fund my AI >> project so we can create a thinking machine that will solve the >> problem of mortality!!! ;-D >> » ben >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Ben Goertzel, PhD >> CEO, Novamente LLC and Biomind LLC >> Director of Research, Singularity Institute for AI >> External Research Professor, Xiamen University, China >> >> >> "I have a deep nostalgia for the future." -- Max More >> > -- > Ben Goertzel, PhD > CEO, Novamente LLC and Biomind LLC > Director of Research, Singularity Institute for AI > External Research Professor, Xiamen University, China > • "I have a deep nostalgia for the future." -- Max More Ben Goertzel, PhD CEO, Novamente LLC and Biomind LLC Director of Research, Singularity Institute for AI External Research Professor, Xiamen University, China "I have a deep nostalgia for the future." -- Max More EFTA00765188