From: MARK TRAMO

From: MARK TRAMO To: GIGI LOUISA JOHNSON Cc: mikdruml Bcc: [email protected] Subject: Re: New auditory illusion? Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 01:35:56 +0000 Thanks, Gigi! Hi Mike - Following up on Gigi's email it: Brian and National Geographic Brain Games - Which of the two words do you hear? Laurel or Yanny? Might you be available Thursday or Friday to discuss via Skype? Would love to hear what you have in mind. Also, there are a few auditory illusions that would be cool to synthesize and play for the show - two of which I corresponded with former colleague George Martin about because two of his Beatles orchestrations had effects similar to two created in laboratories a few yrs earlier by psychologist Roger Shepard at Stanford and composer Jean-Claude Risset in France. Cheers, Mark On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 5:53 PM, GIGI LOUISA JOHNSON <gigijohnsoMa LIC la.edu> wrote: Connecting Mark and Mike. Gigi On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 5:33 PM MARK TRAMO < > wrote: Cool! - Thanks, Gigi :-) - do you happen to have email handy? - I'm polling The Institute for Music & Brain Science Advisory Board. What do you hear? On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 5:23 PM, GIGI LOUISA JOHNSON wrote: Did you email back with Brian? I though it would be good for you to potentially get visibility on the brain science side of this. Mike Shapiro is helping him recreate it technically. This was a big Meme back in May, with WAY too much press coverage back then: https://www.nytimes.cotrilinteractive/2018/05/16/upshot/audio-clip-yanny-laurel-debate.html https:/hvww.vox.corn/2018/5/15/17357684/yanny-or-laurel-audio http://time.com/5278817/yanny-or-laurel-audio-clip-debate/ https://www.wired.com/storytyanny-and-laurel-true-history/ Gigi EFTA01003835 On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 4:20 PM MARK TRAMO < wrote: Greetings, friends and colleagues - Have you seen/heard this "illusion"? hups://www.theguardian.com/technologyanay/16/yanny-or-laurel-sound-illusion-sets-off-ear- splitting-arguments There's a Natl Geo producer in Boston who is interested in covering this and trying to create a new one.To me, it's tunambiguously "Laurel". What do you here? Best, Mark Mark Jude Tramo, MD PhD Dept of Neurology, David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA Dept of Musicology, UCLA Herb Alpert School of Music Director, The Institute for Music & Brain Science Co-Director, University of California Multi-Campus Music Research Initiative (UC MERCI) http://www.BrainMusic.org http://merci.ucsd.edu Gigi Johnson, EdD Exec. Director, UCLA Center for Music Innovation Faculty. Music Industry Program. UCLA Herb Alpert School of Music innovation.schoolofmusic.ucla.edu 626.603.2420 Mark Jude Tramo, MD PhD Dept of Neurology, David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA Dept of Musicology, UCLA Herb Alpert School of Music Director, The Institute for Music & Brain Science Co-Director, University of California Multi-Campus Music Research Initiative (UC MERCI) http://www.BrainMusic.org http://merci.ucsd.edu Gig Johnson, FAD Exec. Director, UCLA Center for Music Innovation Faculty, Music Industry Program, UCLA Herb Alpert School of Music EFTA01003836 innovation.schoolofmusic.ucla. edu 626-603-2420 Mark Jude Tramo, MD PhD Dept of Neurology, David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA Dept of Musicology, UCLA Herb Alpert School of Music Director, The Institute for Music & Brain Science Co-Director, University of California Multi-Campus Music Research Initiative (UC MERCI) http://www.BrainMusic.org http://merci.ucsd.edu EFTA01003837