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From: "Jeffrey E." <[email protected]> To: Deepak Chopra Subject: Re: Non local Awareness is not personal Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 10:52:57 +0000 no, should i ? before humans are there constructs? On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 6:40 AM, Deepak Chopra < > wrote: Energy is a human description with mathematical formulation for an experience in consciousness - the ability to do work No animal in knows it's called an animal A goose has no idea it's called a goose . Atoms are names given by humans to perceptual and cognitive experience . They are ideas ! All descriptions are in terms of human experience All experience is in awareness Awareness is not personal Do you know Jane Siegel in Bahamas I send you love Deepak Chopra 2013 Costa Del Mar Road Carlsbad, CA 92013 New Book: On Jan 15, 2017, at 4:57 AM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote: in your view is there a place of no conciousness? what is energy? is energy a human construct. ? is it there before humans. ? we say a gaggle of geese and a pride of lions .. are you suggesting we merely say matter of atoms. an agreed term for the group? On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Deepak Chopra < Just a thought - a philosophical conundrum wrote: EFTA01056876 If thought is a result of neurochemical activity in synaptic networks why would these neurochemicals want to know their own nature . Physical structures and the names we give them are human constructs for cognitive and perceptual experiences in human consciousness. Is Matter material ? Or is it an activity of nothingness- whatever you want to call that - quantum vacuum etc . I asked Frank Wilczek The Nobel Physicist the same question and he said " our understanding of matter is still evolving . " What is the entity that wants to understand , to know , and why ? If reality is One then matter and consciousness are just words humans invented for ultimate mystery ? I'm told by scientists " one day we will understand ". So who or what is it that wants to know itself ? Deepak Chopra 2013 Costa Del Mar Road Carlsbad, CA 92013 New Book: On Jan 14, 2017, at 10:43 AM, Michael Sherrner < wrote: Hi Deepak, Thanks for this interesting article. It seems to me these are all examples of the causal arrow going from brain/neural activity to mindlconsciousness/qualia. The first causes the second. This is, in any case, how the vast majority of neuroscientists interpret such findings. The author's conclusion... an as-otyei unrecogniathl chwal pnnethle uncletlygg the enure paRern Seems to me to be another example of a god-of-the-gaps argument. Oliver Sacks writes about such experiences in many of his books (clinical case studies he had as a neurologist), and in his autobiography he writes about how he intentionally stimulated such experiences through psychedelics! To my ears the descriptions of his and his patients' experiences are indistinguishable from those of mystics and shamans who report them as well. EFTA01056877 Michael please note The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside information, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. It is the property of JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by e-mail to [email protected], and destroy this communication and all copies thereof, including all attachments. copyright -all rights reserved please note The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside information, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. It is the property of JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by e-mail to [email protected], and destroy this communication and all copies thereof, including all attachments. copyright -all rights reserved EFTA01056878