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Hawking Evaporation is Inconsistent with an Event Horizon at r = 2M
Boron D. Chowdhury' and Lawrence M. Krauss"
'Department of Physics, Arizona State University, Tempe, AZ 85287 and
'School of Earth and Space Exploration, Arizona Stale University,
Tempe, AZ 85287, USA, and Mount Stromlo Observatory,
Research School of Astronomy and Astrophysics,
Australian National University, Weston, ACT, Australia, 2611
(Dated: August 28, 2014)
A simple classical consideration of black hole formation and evaporation times as measured by
an observer at infinity demonstrates that an infall cutoff outside the event horizon of a black hole
must be imposed in order for the formation time of a black hole event horizon to not exceed its
evaporation time. We explore this paradox quantitatively and examine possible cutoff scales and
their relation to the Planck scale. Our analysis suggests two different possibilities, neither of which
can be resolved classically and both of which require new physics associated with even large black
holes and macroscopic event horizons: either an event horizon never forms, for example due to
radiation during collapse (resolving the information loss problem), or quantum effects may affect
space-time near an event horizon in ways which alter infall as well as black hole evaporation itself.
I. INTRODUCTION
Evaporating black holes present a number of paradoxes
that have motivated a great deal of work in classical and
quantum gravity over the past 30 years. Most notable,
as pointed out by Hawking, black hole radiance appears
to be in conflict with unitarity, as pure states appear to
evolve into mixed states, implying an information loss
paradox that has yet to be fully resolved. Several ideas
have been proposed. from the possibility that all the in-
formation stored in a black hole is accessible at its hori-
zon Il, 2), to the possibility that black hole event horizons
do not form [3-5).
There is, however, a classical black hole paradox which
is less often recognized. Because of the infinite redshift
factor at r = 2M, infalling objects appear to take an
infinite time to cross the event horizon as observed by a
distant observer, whereas the same observer will measure
the lifetime of the black hole against evaporation given
by the standard relation r ...v. M3 for a black hole of mass
M. This implies that a black hole would be observed by
a distant observer to evaporate before it forms.
Here we explore this paradox in more detail and deter-
mine conditions on infall that might allow causality to be
preserved in the process of black hole evaporation. Our
argument relies purely on classical general relativity con-
siderations and hence is not subject to the many vagaries
of interpretation often associated with considerations of
quantum effects and gravity.
We conclude with a brief discussion of possible impli-
cations of our analysis, all which would appear to require
quantum effects to be significant even for the horizons
around large black holes, where one would think that
classical CH should be sufficient to describe space-time
and associated phenomena in the vicinity of the event
horizon.
II. INFALL AND OBSERVATION TIMES FOR A
TEST PARTICLE NEAR THE EVENT HORIZON
Consider a massive particle starting from rest at the
location 2. = R 7 O(M). For inward radial motion the
four velocity is given by
tri
(
dt dr
)
(
1—
1 _ 2111
R
/2M
2M
)
dr' dr
'
V r
(1)
where T is the proper time. The coordinate velocity
(ti- n =— dr
14) can be integrated to yield
tinfoil =
1?
-1
Jr'
dr
vri
(2)
2m
ft
—
While the result can be expressed analytically in closed
form, it is not particularly illuminating. We shall later
plot specific results for a variety of cases.
For now, we observe that near the horizon
dt
2M
dr
r — 2M
giving
tinfau = —2M log(r — 2M) + canal.
(4)
This illustrates the fact that infall times as seen by a
distant observer diverge as the horizon is approached. We
can cut off these divergences by considering infall times
to regions arbitrarily close to the classical horizon.
Consider for example, cutting off infall at a
Schwarzchild coordinate distance of r = 2M + 1 (recall
that we are using units here where Alp = 1).
In order to determine the time taken for a distant ob-
server to observe this infall we need to add to the infall
time estimated above, the time it takes for a signal to
come out to r = R from r = 2M -F 1
dr
-2cr
— r -F 2Al log(r — 2M.) 1:41+1
12
R
toutgoing =
at -F1 I —
R— (2411 +1) + 2AI log(R — 2M) .
(5)
(3)
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lb determine specific numbers we consider R = 20M.
For large Al one finds
tinfrin/M
2 log M + 112 ,
to„ta„ing/M
2 log Al + 18 .
(6)
(7)
We plot in figure 1 the infall, outgoing and total time in
units of mass for various masses assuming R = 20M. The
asymptotic behaviour described above is clearly visible.
FIG. I: The solid curve is the time to get to r = 2M + 1,
starting from It = 20M, the dashed curve is the time for a
light signal to get back front that location and the dotted
curve is the total time. The x-axis is logarithmic in Al and
the times are measured in units of M. For reference, one solar
mass is was.
III. COLLAPSE TIME FOR A
SELF-GRAVITATING SPHERICAL SHELL
For completeness, we can compare this analysis of a
particle falling inside the event horizon to the more rele-
vant case of a spherical shell of material collapsing under
its own gravity, using equations of motion worked out by
Israel [15].
The speed in outside coordinates (there is a disconti-
nuity in coordinates across the shell) is
dt
Al
m
—
= V
—
m
2r
dr
_ 2A/
m
2AI
1/(Fa
—1 +
(8)
where m is an integration parameter which can be taken
to be the rest mass of the shell, and M is the mass pa-
rameter for the external geometry.
The shell comes to a rest at
m 2
R = 2(rn - Al)
which allows us to calculate m in terms of It
m = R(1
- -2M )
(9)
(10)
If we consider initial configurations of infall such that
R> M. Then the two roots become
m
M,2R.
(11)
The first root is then the appropriate one to choose in
order to describe negative velocities, i.e. infall, and to
get the correct ADM rest mass at infinity. We can plug
this back into (8), and for the purposes of comparison
take r = 20M so that again we can derive an expression
for tr' which is not particularly illuminating, so we do
not present it here. We can again integrate this expres-
sion with respect to radial position to get the infall time,
which we do numerically and plot in figure 2.
FIG. 2: The collapse time for a self-gravitating shell to reach
r = 2M + 1. The convention for the curves are as given in
figure 1.
Comparing the two figures we see that infall times vary
by at mast 20-30% between the two cases, so that the
analytically derived times for single test particle provide
reasonable estimates to determine causality.
IV. TEMPERATURE AND DISTANCE
ESTIMATES AT VARIOUS CUTOFF RADII
In order to consider various cutoff distances which
maintain causality, we consider both local temperatures
and proper distances from the horizon. The local temper-
ature measured by a static observer at coordinate radius
r, outside of the event horizon, is
Tr —
1141
,
(12)
1/1 — aL—u
For p = r — 2M < 2fif this becomes
1
T,.
2NfisrVirp
In particular at the location r — 2M = 1 one finds
T2A1-1-1
2v/firOtt
1
(13)
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so that the local temperature a coordinate distance of
the Planck length away from the horizon is well below
the Planck temperature.
We can understand this quite simply by considering
instead the proper distance from the horizon,
i,
d,
(15)
`12
„
dr
M
r
For p
— 2M < 2M we get
P dp
2
d„f - • - • v/Wf f
.
(16)
o v'P
so a coordinate distance of 1 from the horizon is actually
d2,w+i = 2 2A9.
If instead we consider distance p = M -" we get
d2m+m ^ = 2 \,5M(1-n)12
(17)
so for n = 1 we get the proper distance from the horizon
to be Planckian.
The local temperature at this distance (i.e. for n = 1)
is
1
1
1
„
W,1
—
87rM
2V2if
O(1) . (18)
So a proper Planck distance from the horizon, corre-
sponding to a coordinate distance AI-1, also corresponds
to a local Planck temperature.
Using (5) and we can see that the time it takes a light
signal to reach a distance n- R from a distance r — 2M n-
M- " is, for large M
to„/going =n- 2(n + 1)M log M .
(19)
Our earlier estimates imply the infall time for massive
shell will also have a similar logarithmic dependence on
M.
Since MlooM c M3 it is clear that if we cut off
infall at distances from the horizon comparable to regions
where the local temperature is of order the Planck mass,
objects will be observed by a distant observer to take
significantly less time to infall than the evaporation time
of the black hole.
We can ask at what distance from the horizon the out-
going time for a light ray to reach a distant observer will
be of the order of evaporation timescale. That will oc-
cur when r - 2M n- Me-m2 = Me-suck. The physical
distance corresponding to this coordinate distance is
dvd+aft_„2 =
(20)
As long as we cut off infall before this distance the
black hole evaporation timescale will be longer than the
formation timescale. It is interesting to note that the
latter factor in the distance estimate is reminiscent of a
tunneling scale but determining whether or not this is a
coincidence would require a full quantum treatment.
V. CONCLUSIONS
Our calculations explicitly demonstrate the quantita-
tive scale of the problem associated with timescales for
evaporating black holes, but of course they do not deter-
mine how to resolve this problem. Several possibilities
do suggest themselves, however.
Perhaps the fact that the existence of a horizon at
r = 2M implies that the evaporation time of a black hole
is longer than the formation time as seen by a distant
observer suggests a literal solution-namely that a hori-
zon does not have time to form, a S would be the case if
radiation by infalling material was sufficient to cause full
evaporation before horizon formation. As we have noted
this would also resolve the information loss paradox as-
sociated with black hole evaporation which was the chief
motivation of earlier proposaLs of this possibility [3-5).
Alternatively, some exotic quantum effects could ei-
ther cause space-time fluctuations in the horizon radius,
causing particles to be absorbed inside of the horizon in a
finite time as observed by a distant observer. This how-
ever would likely alter Hawking's radiation calculation,
since emitted radiation at late times comes from very
near the horizon, and thus would also be subject to the
effects of a fluctuating horizon.
Finally, perhaps some other catastrophic quantum
gravity effects manifest themselves near the event horizon
which would affect infall just outside of the horizon. This
possibility is reminiscent of the suggestion of fuzzballs
[3, 6-9), or firewalls [10-14).
All of these possibilities imply a dramatic shift in our
understanding of black hole physics and in particular the
quantum processes that lead to Hawking radiation and
evaporation. While they might resolve the semiclassical
temporal paradox we have focused on here, all them beg
an equally perplexing question: Why should quantum
gravity processes be relevant to understanding physics
near the event horizon even for arbitrarily large black
holes, where the event horizon occurs at a macroscopi-
cally large distance scale where quantum effects should
naively be negligible?
Whatever the resolution, it remains remarkable that
relatively simple classical or semiclassical considerations
associated with black holes such as we have presented
here point so directly to exotic requirements for quantum
gravity that may filter into even macroscopic phenomena,
affect possibly cherished classical or quantum mechanical
principles.
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