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• Menu o Overview o Device Details ■ NYC024365.aff4 (Evidence ID: NYC024365.aff4 - 001) o Case Data ■ Calendar Items ■ Calls ■ Contacts ■ Messages ■ Top Contacts ■ User Accounts Case Data: Messages (34801- 34900 of 54988) iMessage 2017-11-22 07:28:16 C) 1 Sender: Participants: ( ), Self ( e:[email protected] ) SPAIN iMessage 2017-11-22 07:28:16 C) 2 Sender: Participants: ( ), Self ( jeeitunes®gmail.com ) SPAIN iMessage [3] 2017-11-22 11:02:26 (UTC) Sender: Self ( e:[email protected] Participants: ( ), Self ( e:[email protected] ) Now? Jeffrey iMessage [2] 2017-11-22 11:02:26 (UTC) Sender: Self ( [email protected] Participants: ( ), Self ( jeeitunes®gmail.com ) Now? Jeffrey EFTA01210498 iMessage [3] 2017-11-22 12:16:07 (UTC) Sender: Self e:"eeitunes il.com Participants: ( ), Self ( e:[email protected] ) 9 iMessage [2] 2017-11-22 12:16:07 (UTC) Sender: Self 'eeitune ail.com Participants: ( ), Self (jeeitunes®gmail.com ) 9 iMessage 2017-11-22 12:34:23 UTC 3 Sender: Participants: ( ), Self ( e:[email protected] ) Tonight better. Or even better, tomorrow afternoon if that is ok with you. iMessage 2017-11-22 12:34:23 (UTC) [21 Sender: Participants: ), Self ( jeeitunes®gmail.com ) Tonight better. Or even better, tomorrow afternoon if that is ok with you. iMessage [3] 2017-11-22 12:34:52 (UTC) Sender: Self e:*eeitunes il.com Participants: ( ), Self ( e:[email protected] ) Tomorrow perfect iMessage [2] 2017-11-22 12:34:52 (UTC) Sender: Self 'eeitune ail.com Participants: ( ), Self (jeeitunes®gmail.com ) iMessage 2017-11-22 12:35:19 (UTC) [3] Sender: Participants: Tomorrow perfect ), Self ( e:[email protected] ) EFTA01210499 Perfect. Thank you! iMessage 2017-11-22 12:35:19 UTC 2 Sender: Participants: ( ), Self ( jeeitunes®gmail.com ) Perfect. Thank you! iMessage [4] 2017-11-22 12:35:39 (UTC) Sender: Self (s'eeitSesigmail.com Participants: .== ( ), Self ( e:jeeitunes®gmail.com ) Awake iMessage [2] 2017-11-22 12:35:39 (UTC) Sender: Self O'±eitune ail.com Participants: ( ), Self ( [email protected] ) Awake iMessage [3] 2017-11-22 12:53:30 (UTC) Sender: Self e:"eeitunes il.com Participants: ( ), Self ( e:[email protected] ) Topics? Artificial intelligence? Bitcoin? Genetics? Brain/consciousness? iMessage [2] 2017-11-22 12:53:30 (UTC) Sender: Self 'eeitune ail.com Participants: ( ), Self (jeeitunes®gmail.com ) Topics? Artificial intelligence? Bitcoin? Genetics? Brain/consciousness? iMessage 2017-11-22 12:54:53 (UTC) [21 Sender: Participants: Sure:) ). Self ( [email protected] ) iMessage 2017-11-22 12:55:24 (UTC) [2] EFTA01210500 Sender: Participants: ), Self ( [email protected] ) iMessage 2017-11-22 12:55:24 (UTC 21 Sender: Participants: ( ), Self ( [email protected] ) iMessage 2017-11-22 12:55:24 (UTC 2 Sender: Participants: ( ), Self([email protected] ) iMessage 2017-11-22 12:55:24 ([11T1 I2i Sender: Ill Participants: iMessage [4] 2017-11-22 12:56:29 (UTC) Sender: Self (s'eeitt esigmail.com Participants: .== ( ), Self([email protected] ) ), Self ( e:jeeitunes®gmail.com ) great fun, however you should get more string GREEN leaves and lights. go to home depot. do you like it iMessage [2] 2017-11-22 12:56:29 (UTC) Sender: Self (Seitune ail.com Participants: ( ), Self ([email protected] ) great fun, however you should get more string GREEN leaves and lights. go to home depot. do you like it iMessage 2017-11-22 12:59:15 (UTC 2 Sender: Participants: ( ), Self([email protected] ) Yeeees!!! I love it!!! Thank you so much Jeffrey !!! I have lovely apt with a perfect view !!! Now I understand even more, how lucky I am EFTA01210501 iMessage 2017-11-22 12:59:29 (UTC) [21 Sender: I. Ela m Participants: How are you? :) ), Self ( [email protected] ) iMessage [4] 2017-11-22 12:59:42 (UTC) Sender: Self (s'eeitSesigmail.com Participants: .== ( ), Self ( e:[email protected] ) skype? iMessage [2] 2017-11-22 12:59:42 (UTC) Sender: Self (j±eitune ail.com Participants: ( ), Self ( [email protected] ) skype? iMessage 2017-11-22 13:00:06 (UTC 2 Sender: Participants: ( ), Self ( [email protected] ) 5 Minutes iMessage [4] 2017-11-22 13:00:22 (UTC) Sender: Self (s'eeitSesigmail.com Participants: .== ( ), Self ( e:jeeitunes®gmail.com ) cream off your face iMessage [2] 2017-11-22 13:00:22 (UTC) Sender: Self (j'±eitune ail.com Participants: ( ), Self ( [email protected] ) iMessage 2017-11-22 13:00:53 (UTC) [3 Sender: Participants: cream off your face ), Self( e:[email protected] ) EFTA01210502 All of them! But maybe initially AI with when/how do we (AI eventually) get consciousness iMessage 2017-11-22 13:00:53 UTC 2 Sender: Participants: ( ), Self (jeeitunes®gmail.com ) All of them! But maybe initially AI with when/how do we (AI eventually) get consciousness iMessage 2017-11-22 13:03:39 (UTC) 2 Sender: Participants: ), Self ( [email protected] ) iMessage [3] 2017-11-22 13:04:01 (UTC) Sender: Self e:"eeitunes il.com Participants: ( ), Self ( e:[email protected] ) first , consciousness , definition. ? self aware? most of the things in your body happens without concious control.. so over rated. . musk fears danger. deepak chopra accepts no reality to worry. . I funded the father of AI marvin minsky for 20 years. I know the subject well iMessage [2] 2017-11-22 13:04:01 (UTC) Sender: Self 'eeitune ail.com Participants: ( ), Self (jeeitunes®gmail.com ) first , consciousness , definition. ? self aware? most of the things in your body happens without concious control.. so over rated. . musk fears danger. deepak chopra accepts no reality to worry. . I funded the father of AI marvin minsky for 20 years. I know the subject well iMessage [3] 2017-11-22 13:05:45 (UTC) Sender: Self e:*eeitunes il.com Participants: ( ), Self ( e:[email protected] ) you should tell me what you have read iMessage [2] 2017-11-22 13:05:45 (UTC) EFTA01210503 Sender: Self 'eeitune ail.com Participants: ( ), Self ( jeeitunes®gmail.com ) you should tell me what you have read iMessage 2017-11-22 13:11:01 (UTC 2 Sender: Participants: ), Self ( [email protected] ) Im there iMessage [4] 2017-11-22 13:11:13 (UTC) Sender: Self e:"eeitunes gmail.com Participants: ( ), Self ( cjeeitunes®gmail.com ) 3 minutes iMessage [2] 2017-11-22 13:11:13 (UTC) Sender: Self (j'±eitune ail.com Participants: ( ), Self (jeeitunes®gmail.com ) 3 minutes iMessage 2017-11-22 13:11:27 UTC 4 Sender: Participants: ( ), Self ( cjeeitunes®gmail.com ) Sure! iMessage 2017-11-22 13:11:27 (UTC) 121 Sender: I. Participants: In Sure! iMessage 2017-11-22 13:11:45 (UTC) [4] Sender: Participants: ), Self ( [email protected] ) ), Self ( cjeeitunes®gmail.com ) cream off Your face?))) EFTA01210504 iMessage 2017-11-22 13:11:45 (UTC) [2] Sender: Participants: IN cream off Your face?))) ), Self ( [email protected] ) iMessage 2017-11-22 13:24:05 UTC 3 Sender: Participants: ( ), Self ( e:[email protected] ) Don't you fear danger like Musk? Very intrigued by Neuralink.... Did like Chopra at the beginning but have grown disappointed with him. Al fascinates me. It's rapid development. As well as how will Quantum Computing change the entire equation. My question is how soon will Al gain consciousness? iMessage 2017-11-22 13:24:05 C) 2 Sender: ( Participants: ( ), Self ( jeeitunes®gmail.com ) Don't you fear danger like Musk? Very intrigued by Neuralink.... Did like Chopra at the beginning but have grown disappointed with him. Al fascinates me. It's rapid development. As well as how will Quantum Computing change the entire equation. My question is how soon will Al gain consciousness? iMessage [3] 2017-11-22 13:27:47 (UTC) Sender: Self e:*eeitunes il.com Participants: ( ), Self ( e:[email protected] ) you have to define consciousness. deepak is a friend and yes - lost . . feedback is already here. chomsky is here this weekend with me in florida he believes it is a silly question. as humans have consciousness , machines have feedback loops. so careful with terms iMessage [2] 2017-11-22 13:27:47 (UTC) Sender: Self 'eeitune ail.com Participants: ( ), Self ( jeeitunes®gmail.com ) you have to define consciousness. deepak is a friend and yes - lost . . feedback is already here. chomsky is here this weekend with me in florida he believes it is a silly question. as humans have consciousness , machines have feedback loops. so careful with terms EFTA01210505 iMessage 2017-11-22 13:31:38 UTC 3 Sender: Participants: ( ), Self ( e:[email protected] ) I understand what you mean. And we go back to the basic question, what is consciousness... let's say then feelings... when will AI feel? And be able to communicate that feeling... and how will we know if it is real. iMessage 2017-11-22 13:31:38 (UTC) [21 Sender: Participants: ), Self (jeeitunes®gmail.com ) I understand what you mean. And we go back to the basic question, what is consciousness... let's say then feelings... when will AI feel? And be able to communicate that feeling... and how will we know if it is real. iMessage 2017-11-22 13:32:25 C 3 Sender: Participants: ( ( ) ), Self ( e:[email protected] ) I am Chomsky's biggest fan! iMessage 2017-11-22 13:32:25 UTC 2 Sender: Participants: ( ), Self (jeeitunes®gmail.com ) I am Chomsky's biggest fan! iMessage 2017-11-22 13:32:32 (UTC) [31 Sender: Participants: Very jealous.... ), Self ( e:[email protected] ) iMessage 2017-11-22 13:32:32 UTC 2 Sender: Participants: ( ), Self (jeeitunes®gmail.com ) Very jealous.... EFTA01210506 iMessage [3] 2017-11-22 13:34:32 (UTC) Sender: Self e:"eeitunes il.com Participants: ( ), Self ( e:[email protected] ) noam is great. we tease each other mercilessly - feeling is just words for the moment without a clear definition. careful using words. mathematics requires a model before understanding. we have no model of feelings. iMessage [2] 2017-11-22 13:34:32 (UTC) Sender: Self 'eeitune ail.com Participants: ( ), Self (jeeitunes®gmail.com ) noam is great. we tease each other mercilessly - feeling is just words for the moment without a clear definition. careful using words. mathematics requires a model before understanding. we have no model of feelings. iMessage [3] 2017-11-22 13:36:26 (UTC) Sender: Self e:*eeitunes il.com Participants: ( ), Self ( e:[email protected] ) noam now believes that language originates for internal thought . and only later pops out as communication between individuals iMessage [2] 2017-11-22 13:36:26 (UTC) Sender: Self 'eeitune ail.com Participants: ( ), Self ( jeeitunes®gmail.com ) noam now believes that language originates for internal thought . and only later pops out as communication between individuals iMessage 2017-11-22 13:36:46 (UTC) [2 Sender: Participants: ), Self ( jeeitunes®gmail.com ) I will be more careful with words... but exactly my point. No mathematical model for feelings... therefore, that is what will make Al never like us... or will Al teach itself feelings iMessage 2017-11-22 13:37:17 C) 2 Sender: ( ) Participants: ), Self (jeeitunes®gmail.com ) EFTA01210507 AI has language... but no feelings yet iMessage [3] 2017-11-22 13:39:18 (UTC) Sender: Self e:"eeitunes il.com Participants: ( ), Self ( e:[email protected] ) sorry , bad question. you are speaking in broad metaphors like the weather is happy today or sad. . humans have made a word " feelings" it has a roughly agreed meaning . no more no less. . turing said that asking whether a machine can think was too silly to answer. . machines compute, people think, birds fly , not airplanes iMessage [2] 2017-11-22 13:39:18 (UTC) Sender: Self 'eeitune ail.com Participants: ( ), Self (jeeitunes®gmail.com ) sorry , bad question. you are speaking in broad metaphors like the weather is happy today or sad. . humans have made a word " feelings" it has a roughly agreed meaning . no more no less. . turing said that asking whether a machine can think was too silly to answer. . machines compute, people think, birds fly , not airplanes iMessage 2017-11-22 13:39:56 UTC 2 Sender: Participants: ( ), Self ( jeeitunes®gmail.com ) So that internal dialogue is what Noam believes sets us apart from other species? iMessage 2017-11-22 13:41:18 (UTC) [21 Sender: Participants: ), Self ( jeeitunes®gmail.com ) You are being harsh... or maybe you are too intelligent and you will need to teach me... I like nothing more than learning But if we become so cynical, then little to discuss apart from mathematical equations iMessage [3] 2017-11-22 13:42:15 (UTC) Sender: Self e:"eeitunes il.com Participants: ( ), Self ( e:[email protected] ) if you mean harsh , as rigorous, yes i am. . as arrogant not at all. iMessage [2] 2017-11-22 13:42:15 (UTC) EFTA01210508 Sender: Self 'eeitune ail.com Participants: ( ), Self ( [email protected] ) if you mean harsh , as rigorous, yes i am. . as arrogant not at all. iMessage 2017-11-22 13:42:38 C) 2 Sender: ( Participants: ), Self (jeeitunes®gmail.com ) I like rigorous and I meant it in that way iMessage 2017-11-22 13:42:52 UTC 2 Sender: Participants: ( ), Self (jeeitunes®gmail.com ) Not at all arrogant. I can see how knowledgable you are. iMessage [3] 2017-11-22 13:43:35 (UTC) Sender: Self e:"eeitunes il.com Participants: ( ), Self ( e:[email protected] ) math equations are not very useful , modeling is. . you need to have a mental model of things to try to " understand " them. we don't yet even have a definition of understanding , in computers math or people. . anyway talk tomorrow iMessage [2] 2017-11-22 13:43:35 (UTC) Sender: Self 'eeitunes mail.com Participants: ( ), Self (jeeitunes®gmail.com ) math equations are not very useful , modeling is. . you need to have a mental model of things to try to " understand " them. we don't yet even have a definition of understanding , in computers math or people. . anyway talk tomorrow iMessage [3] 2017-11-22 13:44:40 (UTC) Sender: Self e:"eeitunes il.com Participants: ( ), Self ( e:[email protected] ) you might find the website futurism useful or explore sinularity university iMessage [2] 2017-11-22 13:44:40 (UTC) EFTA01210509 Sender: Self 'eeitune ail.com Participants: ( ), Self ( jeeitunes®gmail.com ) you might find the website futurism useful or explore sinularity university iMessage [3] 2017-11-22 13:44:46 (UTC) Sender: Self e:"eeitunes il.com Participants: ( ), Self ( e:[email protected] ) singularity iMessage [2] 2017-11-22 13:44:46 (UTC) Sender: Self 'eeitune ail.com Participants: ( ), Self (jeeitunes®gmail.com ) singularity iMessage 2017-11-22 13:44:46 UTC 2 Sender: Participants: ( ), Self (jeeitunes®gmail.com ) Thank you! You have made me think and definitely challenged me... iMessage 2017-11-22 13:45:14 UTC 2 Sender: Participants: ( ), Self (jeeitunes®gmail.com ) I have done SU and I am subscribed to Futurism iMessage 2017-11-22 13:45:27 (UTC) [2] Sender: Participants: Love Futurism. Goes to the point ), Self ( jeeitunes®gmail.com ) iMessage 2017-11-22 13:46:14 C) 2 Sender: ( ) Participants: ), Self (jeeitunes®gmail.com ) Peter Diamantes Abundance Insider is great! EFTA01210510 iMessage 2017-11-22 13:46:27 C) 2 Sender: ( ) Participants: ), Self (jeeitunes®gmail.com ) What other sources? iMessage 2017-11-22 13:47:25 UTC 2 Sender: Participants: ( ), Self (jeeitunes®gmail.com ) You seem to be far beyond me in knowledge... or maybe I just need a teacher. All self taught. Don't get the chance to talk to anyone about these subjects. iMessage [3] 2017-11-22 13:47:27 (UTC) Sender: Self e:"eeitunes il.com Participants: ( ), Self ( e:[email protected] ) these are all friends. - . each one wonderfully crazy in their own way. . the art world however still leads . when hawking came to my island. and said his dream was to go diving , i ducted tape his head to a high back chair and loaded him in a private sub, great fun iMessage [2] 2017-11-22 13:47:27 (UTC) Sender: Self 'eeitune ail.com Participants: ( ), Self ( jeeitunes®gmail.com ) these are all friends. - . each one wonderfully crazy in their own way. . the art world however still leads . when hawking came to my island. and said his dream was to go diving , i ducted tape his head to a high back chair and loaded him in a private sub, great fun iMessage 2017-11-22 13:47:55 UTC 2 Sender: Participants: ( ), Self (jeeitunes®gmail.com ) Why art world? iMessage 2017-11-22 13:48:06 C) 2 Sender: ( ) Participants: ), Self (jeeitunes®gmail.com ) EFTA01210511 I am late for lunch. Let's talk tomorrow iMessage [3] 2017-11-22 13:48:42 (UTC) Sender: Self e:"eeitunes il.com Participants: ( ), Self ( e:[email protected] ) I am privileged to be a hobbyist in the rarefied sciences. . art world pushes the orthogonal thinking . usually way ahead of science. iMessage [2] 2017-11-22 13:48:42 (UTC) Sender: Self 'eeitune ail.com Participants: ( ), Self ( jeeitunes®gmail.com ) I am privileged to be a hobbyist in the rarefied sciences. . art world pushes the orthogonal thinking . usually way ahead of science. iMessage [3] 2017-11-22 13:49:31 (UTC) Sender: Self e:"eeitunes il.com Participants: ( ), Self ( e:[email protected] ) art world requires intention . not understood at all yet iMessage [2] 2017-11-22 13:49:31 (UTC) Sender: Self 'eeitune ail.com Participants: ( ), Self ( jeeitunes®gmail.com ) art world requires intention . not understood at all yet iMessage 2017-11-22 16:15:11 UTC 2 Sender: Participants: ( ), Self (jeeitunes®gmail.com ) Can you give me an example where Art is way ahead of Science? I love books and movies but Art doesn't do it for me normally. Although I appreciate/admire the Art of the Freemasonry in the building of the Cathedrals. And I adore Da Vinci. iMessage [3] 2017-11-22 16:36:30 (UTC) Sender: Self e:"eeitunes il.com Participants: ( ), Self ( e:[email protected] ) EFTA01210512 I don't mean art of 300 years ago . conceptual art. . perceptual art. . for example, pointillism previews quantum ( packets ) . cubism. previews. relativity. iMessage [2] 2017-11-22 16:36:30 (UTC) Sender: Self 'eeitune ail.com Participants: ( ), Self (jeeitunes®gmail.com ) I don't mean art of 300 years ago . conceptual art. . perceptual art. . for example, pointillism previews quantum ( packets ) . cubism. previews. relativity. iMessage [3] 2017-11-22 16:36:58 (UTC) Sender: Self e:'eeitunes il.com Participants: ( ), Self ( e:[email protected] ) rothko is a good example of feelings as you describe , given color and form iMessage [2] 2017-11-22 16:36:58 (UTC) Sender: Self 'eeitune ail.com Participants: ( ), Self ( jeeitunes®gmail.com ) rothko is a good example of feelings as you describe , given color and form iMessage [3] 2017-11-22 16:37:43 (UTC) Sender: Self e:'eeitunes il.com Participants: ( ), Self ( e:[email protected] ) engagement for robots and emotional connections. feedback loops on new mice iMessage [2] 2017-11-22 16:37:43 (UTC) Sender: Self 'eeitune ail.com Participants: ( ), Self ( jeeitunes®gmail.com ) engagement for robots and emotional connections. feedback loops on new mice iMessage [3] 2017-11-22 16:38:25 (UTC) Sender: Self e:'eeitunes il.com Participants: ( ), Self ( e:[email protected] ) music and harmony now are included in the elegance of coding. EFTA01210513 iMessage [2] 2017-11-22 16:38:25 (UTC) Sender: Self 'eeitune ail.com Participants: ( ), Self (jeeitunes®gmail.com ) music and harmony now are included in the elegance of coding. iMessage [3] 2017-11-22 16:53:53 (UTC) Sender: Self e:*eeitunes ail.com Participants: ( ), Self ( e:[email protected] ) the insights into fundamental reality, consciousness. . awareness . are much more philosophical artistic conversations than science. the language of mathematics ie probability when spoken in the ordinary vernacular are extremely misleading. ex. probability of life on other planets. makes no sense mathematically . there is no number that describes things that have only happened once. . but. people like the vocabulary of math, gives them a sense of authority. btw. Im sorry if my responses appear harsh, you will be able to see the accompaning smile on Skype iMessage [2] 2017-11-22 16:53:53 (UTC) Sender: Self 'eeitune ail.com Participants: ( ), Self ( jeeitunes®gmail.com ) the insights into fundamental reality, consciousness. . awareness . are much more philosophical artistic conversations than science. the language of mathematics ie probability when spoken in the ordinary vernacular are extremely misleading. ex. probability of life on other planets. makes no sense mathematically . there is no number that describes things that have only happened once. . but. people like the vocabulary of math, gives them a sense of authority. btw. Im sorry if my responses appear harsh, you will be able to see the accompaning smile on Skype Skype 2018-05-15 22:02:38 UTC [5 Sender: Participants: ( ), Self ( jeevacation ) Pm in LA Notes [1] Source Device NYCO24365.aff4/Macintosh HD [1] Source File masers/Jeffrey/Library/Messages/Archive/2017-11-22i on 2017-11-22 at 03.2 8.16.ichat [2] Source NYCO24365.aff4/Macintosh HD Device [2] Source File fUsers/Jeffrey/Library/Messages/chat.db EFTA01210514 [3] Source Device NYCO24365.aff4/Macintosh HD [3] Source File [4] Source Device [4] Source File [5] Source Device [5] Source File /Users/Jeffrey/Library/Messages/Archive/2017-11-221 3.36.ichat NYCO24365.aff4/Macintosh HD /Users/Jeffrey/Library/Messages/Archive/2017-11-22. 9.ichat NYCO24365.aff4/Macintosh HD /Users/Jeffrey/Library/Application Support/Skype/jeevacation/main.db on 2017-11-22 at 08.0 on 2017-11-22 at 08.35.3 Case Data: Messages (34701-34800 of 54988) Case Data: Messages (34901-35000 of 549881 EFTA01210515