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OFFICIAL RECORD1
Datedentry
04/23/2020
date of birth (DOB)
was interviewed at One St.
Andrews Plaza, New York, New York. Present for the interview was
attorneys
and
, along with AUSA
AUSA
and Special Agent
. After being
advised of the identity of the above listed individuals and the nature of
the interview,
provided the following information:
was born in
and has
.
When
was in high school, she started modeling.
met JEFFREY
EPSTEIN during her last year of high school.
had a relatively
normal childhood. While her parents were not particularly affectionate in
terms of no hugging or saying "I love you", they were good people. When
was approximately 15/16 years old, she sent her photo to a
agency. The agency contacted her, and she and her mother went to
The agency "
' signed
. In 2001,
was in a
model contest called "
has modeled in
was scouted by an agency,
in New York.
invited
to New York and wanted her to apply for a tourist visa.
was not sure if the first visa was as a tourist or work. When
was 17 years old, her tourist visa was denied. In 2003,
work visa was approved.
received her visa in August 2003 when she
was 18 years old. The next month
went to New York.
sponsored her work visa.
, who was with
, may
have been the person
spoke with in regard to the visa.
was the "mother agency" who did all the coordinating with
and received commission for placing
with
owned by
stayed in a model's apartment in
. The rent was paid by
debt that she would have to repay.
that was originally
, but it was
had to keep track of
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the rent because she had to pay it back.
had a booker who told her
to lose weight; she did not have a lot of castings.
set up a
gym membership and a diet for
did not have a lot of
money; she lived off of popcorn and tuna.
On or about September 17, 2003,
attended a dinner.
recalled this exact date because it was the day "that affected the rest of
my life".
thought that it was JEAN LUC BRUNEL's birthday.
thought that she had met BRUNEL previously
recalled there being a big table in the corner of the
restaurant CIPRIANI. There were a lot of models present. EPSTEIN walked in
and went straight towards
. EPSTEIN told the person sitting next to
EPSTEIN to move; he sat down next to her and talked with her. EPSTEIN told
that he had an island and his friends were actors, including
LEONARDO DICAPRIO. During this dinner,
had said that she wanted to
be happy. EPSTEIN asked her if she wanted to be an actress. EPSTEIN tried
to put his arm around her.
A day or so later, •
from EPSTEIN's assistant
for the weekend.
received a call on her apartment landline
was invited to Palm Beach
originally said no because she thought it was
strange. That same day EPSTEIN called her and asked her to go to Palm
Beach, saying, "No pressure...come relax...get in shape".
thought
why not go so she went. Or or about September 20, 2003,
was in
Palm Beach. She knew it was around this date because she found a photo
dated that was taken in Palm Beach. EPSTEIN arranged
flight but
did not remember the particulars on who exactly arranged the flight. When
arrived in Palm Beach, an assistant opened the door.
thought the assistant may have been
was impressed;
the house was beautiful. EPSTEIN took
to a cabana and they talked
for a while. EPSTEIN seemed very smart; they talked about psychology, the
difference between men and women, and what
wanted to do with her
life. EPSTEIN paid
a lot of attention. EPSTEIN knew
was
trying to lose weight. When they were by the pool, EPSTEIN made comments to
. EPSTEIN took
upstairs to the bathroom/massage room.
EPSTEIN had
look in the mirror, and he pointed out the body parts
that she needed to lose. EPSTEIN grabbed her and told her it was dead
tissue. EPSTEIN had
get on the table and cracked her back.
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EPSTEIN then had
turn over and made a comment on her hips. EPSTEIN
grabbed a vibrator and put it on her genital area and moved it around to
other places.
had an orgasm, which she had not experienced before
with other men. EPSTEIN was upbeat and said, "Lucky you".
was
embarrassed. EPSTEIN did not push things further at this point.
A few days later
went with EPSTEIN on his plane to his island.
EPSTEIN took her on a tour on his four-wheeler.
had her own room
on the island. There were other women around and everyone seemed happy.
slept in her own room, but in the mornings, EPSTEIN would get in
her bed and touch her.
was shy and inexperienced.
did
not want things to go further and did not want to have sex. EPSTEIN told
that it was all for her. EPSTEIN told
she needed to
breathe to get in tune with her own body.
recalled the women on
the island being
. and another girl.
remembered seeing
name on the flight logs and that is how she knew
she was present for this trip.
and
were EPSTEIN's
assistants.
assumed the other women were like her with no defined
role. EPSTEIN told his assistants to do things, run errands, schedule
flights, interact with the staff.
thought that she went back to
New York on a commercial flight.
On or about October 2003,
went back to
. EPSTEIN knew
was in her last year of high school; she had told him she needed to
go back. EPSTEIN told
there was a way for her to not have to go
back; he told her she could take a test to earn her GED. This way she would
be able to travel with EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN told
that she should learn
to take care of him.
had to study for the TOEFL test before she
could earn her GED.
On or about December 2003,
went back to New York. EPSTEIN
offered for
to stay an apartment at 301 East 66th Street. In
December,
would have had her prom in
but went back to New
York knowing that she would miss it.
was not sure if she lived
alone at the apartment initially or if
was already living there.
Before
moved into this apartment, EPSTEIN had invited
to
go to his home at 9 East 71st Street. This was prior to EPSTEIN and
having sex; EPSTEIN invited her to his home to sleep with him without having
sex.
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traveled everywhere with EPSTEIN, including New York, Florida,
the island, New Mexico, Paris, Disneyland, and other trips.
applied for an ID with EPSTEIN's Florida residence. Florida was
official home, but she thought that she considered New York her home.
had a relationship with EPSTEIN
2010.
no longer traveled with him.
travel changed. Initially,
traveled
passed, the travel became less and less.
traveled with
where
with him.
until approximately August
Over time, the frequency of
all the time but as time
recently learned EPSTEIN
other women but she did not know that at the time. The times
did not travel with EPSTEIN, he had told her not to travel
In 2004,
traveled with
GHISLAINE MAXWELL, and other women who came in and out.
traveled a
lot with
and EPSTEIN.
and
became friends;
was older than
older than
an assistant.
and
thought
was born in
were also roommates.
was an architect; she was
so she was older than
did not seem to have an official role and eventually became
BRUNEL was very close friends with EPSTEIN. BRUNEL and EPSTEIN joked
around together. BRUNEL traveled with EPSTEIN and
encouraged
showed
BRUNEL
to be nice to EPSTEIN and to take care of him. BRUNEL
how to massage EPSTEIN's feet.
EPSTEIN described MAXWELL as his best friend. MAXWELL's role seemed to
be that of a "queen". MAXWELL oversaw things including managing EPSTEIN's
houses. Initially, MAXWELL slept in EPSTEIN's bed when she traveled with
them. MAXWELL was in charge of the staff.
thought MAXWELL thought
MAXWELL and EPSTEIN were in a relationship.
did not think EPSTEIN
told MAXWELL about
and EPSTEIN being together.
recalled a
trip to the ranch in mid-2004 when MAXWELL was with them. When MAXWELL did
not travel with them,
slept in EPSTEIN's bed, then he had
sleep with him.
was scared of MAXWELL. EPSTEIN told MAXWELL that
he wanted
to sleep in his bed.
did not think MAXWELL was
happy about it. This was when sleeping arrangements began to change.
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worked for MAXWELL as her assistant.
also worked for
MAXWELL as her assistant.
thought that it seemed like a lot of
women transitioned roles.
thought
and EPSTEIN had a
relationship as well at some point. There was also another woman that was
an assistant of who
could not remember.
thought
was also MAXWELL's assistant at some point before she became EPSTEIN's
assistant.
recalled
being an assistant in
approximately 2005/2006.
was also in charge of assistants some of
the time.
thought
may have also been EPSTEIN's assistant at
some point.
described that if an outsider came to the house everyone there
seemed happy. However, there was a lot of tension in the house. EPSTEIN
pitted the women against each other. There was a lot of secrecy. EPSTEIN
told them not to discuss him with other people. EPSTEIN told them to tell
people, "If you have a question about Jeffrey, ask Jeffrey.".
thought she did not trust anyone to tell people what was going on with her
and EPSTEIN.
While EPSTEIN was in jail in the mid-2000s,
and
were at
his house most of the time; they lived there. EPSTEIN hired
and
to work in the office.
heard they were working as
paralegals.
In approximately 2008,
and
relationship began to change
as they bonded more. They did not have a normal relationship, but it became
better. In or around 2010, they became friends.
In approximately 2006, when EPSTEIN and
were on his island,
EPSTEIN told her that a woman was arrested on a drug charge and to save
herself she redirected the attention to him. EPSTEIN told her this in
person because he did not want to tell her on the phone.
knew this
girl to be
did not know when she learned the name
of the girl but knew her when EPSTEIN had told her the girl's name. At some
point,
learned that EPSTEIN's charge was about prostitution.
The general sense was that EPSTEIN was being treated unfairly and women
were setting him up to get money.
believed this narrative.
felt protective of EPSTEIN and felt bad for him. EPSTEIN gave her
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examples of women blackmailing him.
thought maybe he mentioned
about five women blackmailing him. EPSTEIN told
this before she
learned about the investigation.
same things; EPSTEIN shared his narrative openly. EPSTEIN told
that if she was approached, she was not to talk to anyone and tell EPSTEIN
or find a lawyer. Articles then started to come out.
and
eventually had conversations about it.
thought they talked after
EPSTEIN left.
and
thought "it was bullshit". This was
their view at the time.
view has since changed.
recalled reading an article about items being removed from EPSTEIN's house.
did not know anything about it or how items were removed.
recalled there being a lot of photos around the house but at some point that
changed.
thought EPSTEIN told
the
EPSTEIN had
talk to his lawyers. EPSTEIN wanted
to
describe what happened in Florida and to talk about the women and sex acts
in Florida.
went in with the mindset to be on EPSTEIN's side. The
things that
shared were not horrible to the lawyers.
was
asked about her interactions with other women.
recalled a time on the ranch where she and
had a
conversation with EPSTEIN about if he was going to see jail time. It came
to the point where it seemed inevitable. EPSTEIN told them he was
soliciting a prostitute.
did not remember if he told her the girl
was underage. EPSTEIN said that the "women" lied about their ages; EPSTEIN
said this a lot.
thought this was what she told her parents.
did not think she had conversations with others about it.
As of this interview,
2019. Before this,
had not spoken to
since early July
thought
shared similar views.
In 2008, EPSTEIN was in jail. EPSTEIN was "fully" there for three
months.
thought EPSTEIN was on work release for approximately ten
months. During this time,
while also going to New York sometimes. EPSTEIN wanted
every visitation, so
Frequent visitors to
IGOR, and TOMMY MATOLA. While
residence,
saw
stayed at EPSTEIN's house in Palm Beach,
to be at
she stayed at EPSTEIN's Palm Beach residence more.
see EPSTEIN were also
BRUNEL, EPSTEIN's trainer
was at EPSTEIN's Palm Beach
and EPSTEIN's assistant
around the
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house.
house.
was also staying at the residence and IGOR lived in the guest
While EPSTEIN was on house arrest, he became increasingly aggressive and
irritable. EPSTEIN and
were not getting along. It was not working
out as EPSTEIN became more aggressive with
There was an incident
in approximately 2009 where EPSTEIN was violent and it scared
packed her bags and went to New York. Afterwards, EPSTEIN
convinced
to try again at their relationship. EPSTEIN and
separated in 2010. After the split,
stayed in New York.
thought EPSTEIN owned the apartment she was staying in; she was not paying
any rent for the apartment.
After 2010,
had a physical relationship with EPSTEIN a few
times.
did not want to have a physical relationship anymore but
told EPSTEIN
EPSTEIN told her no. EPSTEIN
told
her role was not
but to have sex with him.
thought this may have been around 2012.
started working somewhere else and lived in II. There were a
number of years where she and EPSTEIN did not speak.
In or around 2018, EPSTEIN and
became more cordial and
friendly. Any time there was a new article published or a new development,
EPSTEIN and
would check in with each other. A few months before
EPSTEIN was arrested in July 2019,
saw him and STEVE BANNON at
EPSTEIN's house in New York. It was just the three of them.
walked in and saw EPSTEIN and BANNON sitting in the dining room exchanging
friendly banter. EPSTEIN and BANNON asked
questions on how the
situation was affecting her.
had the sense that they were trying
to reboot his reputation.
had not been able to work and her
association to EPSTEIN had made it difficult for her to have relationships.
They asked a lot of questions. EPSTEIN seemed pleased that
cried
during this conversation. This took place after the Miami Herald article
was published.
left after this conversation.
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After
split from EPSTEIN, life was hard for her because of her
association to him. There were a lot of opportunities that fell through
because of him.
told EPSTEIN about this and they came to an
agreement. EPSTEIN offered to pay her double what she would make in any
job. They called it "a double". EPSTEIN would wire the money to her.
EPSTEIN covered
medical expenses and her
. In
2015, when
was deposed, EPSTEIN covered her legal fee. When bad
articles came out, EPSTEIN copied her on an email telling someone to wire
her money.
would ask EPSTEIN what the money was for and he told
her it was because she deserved it.
sometimes went to EPSTEIN
telling him that things were getting out of hand. EPSTEIN gave
statements of what she should say and what she should say about some people
that
did not even know about.
did not know anything about
she never met
. EPSTEIN wanted
to say
that
was a liar and that PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON was never on
EPSTEIN's island.
and
had a lot of conversations because they felt they
were in similar situations.
recalled that after a breakup,
with a friend. MAXWELL was present.
MAXWELL said from a distance that
for EPSTEIN.
did not know if
went to a movie premiere
later spoke with EPSTEIN and
looked cute and would be perfect
and
introduced girls to
EPSTEIN.
did not think this was their role.
knew that
introduced girls to EPSTEIN.
knew that others
introduced girls to EPSTEIN.
showed a page off a "Jeffrey E. Epstein" notepad that had
handwritten notes on it. This was written by
as dictated to her.
This page is attached in a 1A.
provided scans of photos from her time with EPSTEIN. These
photos are attached in a 1A.
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