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OFFICIAL RECORD
, also known as
, was interviewed at One Saint Andrews Plaza, New York, New York.
Present for the interview were
attorneys,
Also present was AUSA
AUSA
Detective
and Special Agent
After being advised
of the identities of the above listed individuals and the nature of the
interview,
provided the following information:
Date of entry
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, date of birth
In New York, massages for JEFFREY EPSTEIN were scheduled around the same
times, usually around 11:00 AM and 4:00/5:00 PM. LESLEY GROFF would be the
one who would communicate with those individuals giving the massage.
would stay at her apartment during the day and sleep at EPSTEIN's
house at night. When
people waiting; they were
underage but thought they
clothes.
saw JOJO escorting them upstairs in the elevator.
would leave in the morning, she would see
younger women.
did not know if they were
were around her age. They came in normal street
may
did
have overheard that they were
not know how she knew but it seemed
there to massage EPSTEIN.
they were
massage. They were similar looking women to those
Beach. JOJO and LYNN FONTANILA, who were married
this residence.
thought this was around
GROFF worked at the house. LYNN LNU would keep a
there to
saw in Palm
to each other, were at
2004. In the later years,
piece of paper with the
first name of the women with appointments coming in.
thought LYNN
had since passed away.
After EPSTEIN was in jail in the mid-2000's and was on house arrest,
EPSTEIN and
EPSTEIN told
spent time in New York when he was allowed to travel.
that he was not going to "do that" which meant no
massages. EPSTEIN felt that he would be a target.
In New Mexico, it was pretty quiet.
did not think that EPSTEIN
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had anyone coming to massage him. EPSTEIN traveled with women to New
Mexico. There was a massage room in this residence.
In the Virgin Islands, one or two women would give EPSTEIN a massage.
thought they were licensed masseuses. EPSTEIN would go into the
massage room with a woman.
As far as
knew, the people that worked for EPSTEIN in his homes
did not massage him. EPSTEIN's assistants did give him massages.
did not know if his assistants only gave massages or were also involved with
him.
believed that
was sexually involved with him
at some point.
was also involved with EPSTEIN.
thought that most of the women that traveled with EPSTEIN were involved
sexually with him.
believed that
was sexually
involved with EPSTEIN but thought that stopped at some point. EPSTEIN told
that it stopped with
, saying that he was "no longer playing
with her".
started dating someone from London;
thought this
was before EPSTEIN went to jail.
EPSTEIN used the word "family" when referring to them.
thought
the only person EPSTEIN saw as an equal was GHISLAINE MAXWELL. EPSTEIN and
MAXWELL had real conversations. EPSTEIN respected MAXWELL.
, and
were all dependent on EPSTEIN.
felt "the
longer you were around, it was harder to give up or get out".
did
not know how
was able to get out. After
left in 2010, she
could see a difference; it felt like she had a new life.
shared
that with
and other women that it felt different.
met her
current husband (known to law enforcement as
and
felt this helped
woman named
who was around for longer trips with EPSTEIN then left.
get out.
left around 2012/2013. There was a
, known to law enforcement as
and her sister, known
to law enforcement as
, traveled with EPSTEIN for a while.
thought they stayed after she had left. III was around when
first met EPSTEIN. III left and went back to -.
came back and worked for EPSTEIN after his house arrest.
told
that EPSTEIN was hard on III and quite abusive.
EPSTEIN had some of the women involved with other women. EPSTEIN seemed
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to like it. Many of the women
has talked about were involved with
other women.
thought that
was involved with other women.
photo was in EPSTEIN's massage room in New York.
was
wearing a wedding band and EPSTEIN seemed to like that. EPSTEIN told
that
was with other women.
did not think
was
with other women when she was around. EPSTEIN described a sexual experience
he had with
that happened before
met him.
and III
were not close.
did not know if III was involved with other women.
had vented frustrations to
that EPSTEIN was unreasonable
and tough.
did share with
any instances of physical abuse
by EPSTEIN.
When
was at a casting in
, either JEAN LUC BRUNEL or
someone else came to this casting.
was around 16 years old.
was asked to apply for a tourist visa but it was denied.
then applied for a work visa and it was approved.
met BRUNEL at a
dinner party in September. BRUNEL traveled regularly with EPSTEIN.
did not know how close EPSTEIN and BRUNEL were. BRUNEL encouraged
to do things to EPSTEIN including massaging EPSTEIN's feet and
being good to EPSTEIN; it was clear BRUNEL approved. BRUNEL and EPSTEIN had
a close relationship in that they talked very sexual about women. In early
2004, BRUNEL brought a really young girl to the island.
thought
this girl was around 15 years old. EPSTEIN commented about this girl and
being 10 years apart in age. BRUNEL and EPSTEIN would share stories
about women they had sexual experiences with.
thought EPSTEIN repaid her debt because she was no
longer asked about it.
work visa was through the agency.
had the sense that EPSTEIN could have deported her with one phone
call to BRUNEL. EPSTEIN told
that he gave BRUNEL one million
dollars to keep
in the country. EPSTEIN had an immigration lawyer,
PARDA BESKARDES, who he referred people to help with their visas. EPSTEIN
used this to his advantage. EPSTEIN referred III and some women from Russia
EPSTEIN helped BRUNEL bring into the United States on tourist visas.
was not aware of any marriages EPSTEIN may have coordinated.
did not remember EPSTEIN being present with her and this lawyer.
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There was a short brunette-haired girl that traveled with BRUNEL, but for
the most part BRUNEL traveled alone.
BRUNEL sued EPSTEIN.
recalled thinking this was a publicity
stunt. EPSTEIN expressed disappointment about this. BRUNEL visited EPSTEIN
often while he was in jail.
renewed her visa
In 2011,
started her
own company and worked on her own. EPSTEIN was not involved in her
company. EPSTEIN did help
financially and
put the money
she received toward her company.
There were stories of MAXWELL being sexually involved with women.
did not have first hand knowledge of this. There were
conversations that EPSTEIN and MAXWELL had in group settings.
photographs of MAXWELL throughout EPSTEIN's house.
saw
remembered girls coming to EPSTEIN's home for massages. It was
reasonable to
to think that these girls were paid.
did
not remember if she ever saw money on the table. While
was in the
room, she did not remember seeing an exchange of money. When EPSTEIN would
step out of the room with a girl,
thought he was just talking or
connecting with her. Looking back on it now,
thought it was to pay
them. There were women in Florida like
that
remembered
seeing.
interacted with
knew
was there to
massage EPSTEIN.
felt embarrassed and naive because EPSTEIN made
her believe that
wanted to be there for
also
recalled feeling the same about
and
recalled a time that there was a vibrator that she and EPSTEIN
used. EPSTEIN did not want
to have the vibrator at the house
anymore. It was the vibrator that EPSTEIN had and EPSTEIN told
to
get rid of it and not to ask why.
did not remember conversations
about pictures being removed.
recalled EPSTEIN had a probation officer that he did not like
transferred. EPSTEIN shared this with
and seemed proud of himself.
There was a woman,
, whom EPSTEIN hired to work in the
office in Florida while he was on work release. EPSTEIN and
had a
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falling out. EPSTEIN told
that
tried to blackmail him and he
gave her $50,000.
was told by a friend that
contacted
EPSTEIN a couple months before the current investigation into EPSTEIN and
tipped him off.
was told that
had the information and warned
him.
recalled walking into the New York office and saw people
shredding papers.
did not remember when this occurred.
EPSTEIN shared with
that he felt as though he was being
watched.
told EPSTEIN that she wanted to do something about the
press.
had an idea but EPSTEIN told her to hold off because there
may be something more substantial.
EPSTEIN and MAXWELL talked about sex. In a group setting with other
girls, MAXWELL talked about oral sex. This was at the island table. MAXWELL
had a specific move she liked to talk about. MAXWELL recommended books to
read, including books like "Story of O", and something like "Lessons or
Advice of a Wife to a Mistress". MAXWELL was reading this book and told
and other girls to read.
did not recall who all was there
for this conversation.
did not recall if the conversation about
sex and the books was on the same day.
and
vented a lot to each other about EPSTEIN.
felt that both she and
were blinded and did not think there was some
massive sex trafficking ring going on.
and
thought for
years that it was a witch hunt for a wealthy man. In recent years,
shared with
some of the physical abuse by EPSTEIN.
seemed
somewhat surprised.
did not share the same experience.
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