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FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
, hereto referred to as
pursuant to a proffer agreement at
Present for the interview were
Date of entry
05/22/2019
, was interviewed
After being
advised of the identities of the above listed individuals and the nature of
the interview,
provided the following information:
provided the names of individuals that she recalled recruiting
to massage JEFFREY EPSTEIN. All the individuals listed below were under 18
years old when
took them to EPSTEIN's home, with the exception of
and possibly
. Those individuals include:
New York, New York, United States (In Person)
Incwigationon 05/02/2019
Filen 31E-NY-3027571
at
Date dialled
05/02/2019
by
This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not
to be distributed outside your agency.
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met
, hereto referred to
she described those that she spent time with as
described
EPSTEIN; •
running out
only going to EPSTEIN's one time.
went upstairs, but was unsure if she went up initially with
came back downstairs after approximately five to ten minutes.
told
that she did not know what happened or what was wrong. At
this point, someone escorted
EPSTEIN asked
what she
told him she brought a
not want a dark girl. This conversation happened in the bathroom.
described the bathroom as having "vagina and boobs" structures around the
room and further described there being a "pink torso" near the bathtub.
EPSTEIN went into the shower and told
that she cannot bring girls
he does not like. EPSTEIN told
to keep looking for girls.
stated that EPSTEIN did not want "Spanish or dark girls."
told
that EPSTEIN just wasn't into her. EPSTEIN paid
but
does not recall if she was paid for bringing
because he
was not happy with her.
as
brought
described it as a desperate time
of girls to take to EPSTEIN.
.on 05/02/2019 ,n,g, 2 of 8
.
as
through friends;
towards the end of her
because
recalled
time massaging
was
possibly
recalled waiting in a room while
upstairs to speak with EPSTEIN.
was doing bringing him a "dark girl."
young girl and EPSTEIN replied that he did
met
, when
, hereto referred to as
was 13 years old and still living with her mother.
told
going to go further than I say."
into the room in a robe, she would have
nipples while he touched himself.
and
was a model and older than
, "There is someone I know; he's not
told
that he would come
to be topless, and twitch his
went upstairs with
removed their clothing;
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if they had underwear on the first time
massaged EPSTEIN.
told
and the other girls she took to EPSTEIN to tell
EPSTEIN if they were uncomfortable with not wanting to take off their
underwear. EPSTEIN then turned around and leaned towards
chest
but did not recall what EPSTEIN said.
described that EPSTEIN would
look at a girl while he moved his hand slowly towards her chest.
had no response so EPSTEIN touched her. EPSTEIN told them to touch his
nipples "hard, hard, hard" then he "roughly jerked off." EPSTEIN paid the
both of them then they left.
did not recall how many times
massaged EPSTEIN, but
thought it could have been approximately five times. EPSTEIN was "really in
love" with
thought that EPSTEIN wanted to do a sketch
or painting of
recalled that she went with
the first time and last time
went, but did not recall if she went
the other times
GROFF, would call
and would repeatedly ask for
was there. LESLIE GROFF, hereto referred to as
and put EPSTEIN on the phone to speak with her
EPSTEIN introduced
and
to
who
described as a
girl. The last time
massaged EPSTEIN,
he had called
for the both of them to come in.
and
took off their clothes.
recalled that there was a lot of
touching.
did not want to go back.
thought
was
in a relationship with someone.
met
, hereto referred to as
, through
, hereto referred to as
is one year older than
thought that
may have been the one to tell
about EPSTEIN.
recalled being in the bathroom and
telling them that she had heard that
and
knew a
rich guy who they massaged and touched his nipples.
asked them,
"How bad is it?"
responded that it was not that bad and that after
he jerks off, it's done.
recalled that
may have massaged
EPSTEIN one to two times, but could have been more times.
told
that EPSTEIN used a vibrator on her.
was not sure if
took
the first time
went to EPSTEIN's home.
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met
through
and
are both
thought that
told her that she
had asked
to massage EPSTEIN.
At one point,
witnessed EPSTEIN asking to see one of the girls
identification because he wanted to make sure she was under 18. EPSTEIN did
not believe that
and
were bringing him girls under 18
because
"messed up" by bringing older girls.
discussed how massages with EPSTEIN started and how they
progressed. In the beginning,
started out as being topless with
pants on while EPSTEIN "jerked off." EPSTEIN liked
so
went back by herself without
could not remember
when EPSTEIN asked her to take her pants off but thought it may have been
the second time she went.
then corrected herself stating that it
was the first time she went that she took her pants off.
recalled
that the second time she massaged EPSTEIN, he grabbed her breasts.
stated that the times thereafter things progressed to the point where
EPSTEIN used a vibrator on top of her underwear on her "clit area".
described the vibrator as small and purple. This was the first
time
had ever seen a vibrator. EPSTEIN would sometimes use the
vibrator inside
' underwear. EPSTEIN used the vibrator on
when she was naked.
could not remember if EPSTEIN penetrated her
or not. EPSTEIN made "crazy noises" like "expressive moaning". EPSTEIN asked
, "Do you like it or are you enjoying it?" EPSTEIN was very visual
and liked to look at
; EPSTEIN looked at her breasts a lot.
would usually be standing up when EPSTEIN used the vibrator on
her. Approximately one to two times, EPSTEIN laid
out and was
"touchy" while using the vibrator on her. [Agent note: At this point in the
interview,
was upset and did not want to go into further detail at
this time.)
usually took a cab to EPSTEIN's home.
did not recall
if she had ever taken the train to EPSTEIN's home.
recalled that
EPSTEIN's home was on 71st Street in New York and described his home as
having "big, huge doors" that she thought may have been red or brown in
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everything that she said.
nervous."
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color and had two to three steps that led up to the doors.
recalled that the home next door had steps that led to a downstairs.
never took anything to EPSTEIN's home. EPSTEIN did not like
lingerie on her.
told the girls she recruited not to wear heels
and to dress casual in everyday clothes.
did not have EPSTEIN's direct phone line
would call GROFF to tell her that she needed to speak
would either connect her to EPSTEIN or tell
her back. When the FBI initially reached out to
called GROFF asking to speak with EPSTEIN and
told her she would call
back. GROFF called
her to EPSTEIN.
told EPSTEIN that if he was
then she was going to talk to the FBI. EPSTEIN told
get her a lawyer, but the lawyer could not be the same one he had.
. Instead,
with EPSTEIN and GROFF
that she would call
in 2008,
thought that GROFF
and connected
not going to help her
that he would
was asked if she remembered a statement that she made to her
lawyers regarding EPSTEIN telling
"you know what I like."
recalled that EPSTEIN said that to her after she brought
EPSTEIN told her, "What are you doing; you know what I like." EPSTEIN told
, "You know what I'm into."
understood that to mean
EPSTEIN wanted "young, petite, and underage girls."
recall if she brought anyone who was 13 years old.
and
still speaks
EPSTEIN.
money from the girls she
money.
thought
things," thinking that
provide sexual favors.
was currently inviting men over.
could not
still talk.
stated she was unsure if
with EPSTEIN, but felt that
would reach out to
stated that
was all about making money.
took
recruited; she kept part of their share of the
that
was currently "not doing the right
may still be involved in getting paid to
had told
that she thought •
discussed the initial meeting with agents when she was
stated that she did not remember
stated she was "too nervous, very
felt uncomfortable and felt like she needed a lawyer
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because she did not know if she was going to go to jail if she answered
questions.
stated that she may not have been honest because she
was scared.
provided a number of photographs of herself and other
individuals from the time period where she was massaging EPSTEIN.
identified the individuals in each of the photographs listed below. The
photographs have been placed in a lA envelope.
Photo 1:
unknown female,
at age 15/16
Photo 2:
(Photo was taken at
) Lamp in photo may have been given by EPSTEIN.
thought
she mixed up the lamps that she talked about in her previous interview,
stating that the lamps of the naked women on them were in his home and not
gifted to her.
Photo 3:
Photo 4:
(Photo was taken at the 1st Yankees game they
attended; unsure what year)
Photo 5:
(Photo was taken
Photo 6:
(Photo was taken when
was
approximately 14/15 years old)
Photo 7:
Photo 8:
Photo 9:
Photo
home.
10:
unknown female who was the same unknown female in photo
thought the unknown female may have been
recalled going with
and the unknown female to EPSTEIN's
thought
went upstairs with the unknown female. The
1
unknown female went to EPSTEIN's home approximately one to two times.
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was unsure of the unknown female's age.)
Photo 11:
was not sure how old they were in the
photo.)
Photo 12:
Photo 13:
I.)
Photo 14:
.)
Photo 15:
believed that
never went to EPSTEIN. Lamps from EPSTEIN are seen in this photo.)
Photo 16:
Photo 17:
Photo 18:
unknown female who could be
Photo 19:
16.
Photo A:
Photo B:
Photo C:
•
(Photo was taken by
on the same day as photo
Photo D:
in the front row, with unknown
female, unknown female, possibly
, and unknown female in the back
row.
Photo E: Unknown female,
Photo F:
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In the interest of time, not all subject matter was covered during this
interview.
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