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FDNnotev.54-IM -1 of 8- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION , hereto referred to as pursuant to a proffer agreement at Present for the interview were Date of entry 05/22/2019 , was interviewed After being advised of the identities of the above listed individuals and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: provided the names of individuals that she recalled recruiting to massage JEFFREY EPSTEIN. All the individuals listed below were under 18 years old when took them to EPSTEIN's home, with the exception of and possibly . Those individuals include: New York, New York, United States (In Person) Incwigationon 05/02/2019 Filen 31E-NY-3027571 at Date dialled 05/02/2019 by This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. CONFIDENTIAL 3501.162-024 Page 1 of8 EFTA_00069747 EFTA01247302 FO.30.1aMoi.5440 31E-NY-3027571 (U) Interview of ComimationofFD-302of on 5/2/2019 met , hereto referred to she described those that she spent time with as described EPSTEIN; • running out only going to EPSTEIN's one time. went upstairs, but was unsure if she went up initially with came back downstairs after approximately five to ten minutes. told that she did not know what happened or what was wrong. At this point, someone escorted EPSTEIN asked what she told him she brought a not want a dark girl. This conversation happened in the bathroom. described the bathroom as having "vagina and boobs" structures around the room and further described there being a "pink torso" near the bathtub. EPSTEIN went into the shower and told that she cannot bring girls he does not like. EPSTEIN told to keep looking for girls. stated that EPSTEIN did not want "Spanish or dark girls." told that EPSTEIN just wasn't into her. EPSTEIN paid but does not recall if she was paid for bringing because he was not happy with her. as brought described it as a desperate time of girls to take to EPSTEIN. .on 05/02/2019 ,n,g, 2 of 8 . as through friends; towards the end of her because recalled time massaging was possibly recalled waiting in a room while upstairs to speak with EPSTEIN. was doing bringing him a "dark girl." young girl and EPSTEIN replied that he did met , when , hereto referred to as was 13 years old and still living with her mother. told going to go further than I say." into the room in a robe, she would have nipples while he touched himself. and was a model and older than , "There is someone I know; he's not told that he would come to be topless, and twitch his went upstairs with removed their clothing; CONFIDENTIAL could not remember 3501.162-024 Page 2 of 8 EFTA_00069748 EFTA01247303 FD-302a (Rev. 5-840) 31E—NY-3027571 (U) Interview of ContimationofFD-302of on 5/2/2019 .On 05/02/2019 ,hge 3 of B if they had underwear on the first time massaged EPSTEIN. told and the other girls she took to EPSTEIN to tell EPSTEIN if they were uncomfortable with not wanting to take off their underwear. EPSTEIN then turned around and leaned towards chest but did not recall what EPSTEIN said. described that EPSTEIN would look at a girl while he moved his hand slowly towards her chest. had no response so EPSTEIN touched her. EPSTEIN told them to touch his nipples "hard, hard, hard" then he "roughly jerked off." EPSTEIN paid the both of them then they left. did not recall how many times massaged EPSTEIN, but thought it could have been approximately five times. EPSTEIN was "really in love" with thought that EPSTEIN wanted to do a sketch or painting of recalled that she went with the first time and last time went, but did not recall if she went the other times GROFF, would call and would repeatedly ask for was there. LESLIE GROFF, hereto referred to as and put EPSTEIN on the phone to speak with her EPSTEIN introduced and to who described as a girl. The last time massaged EPSTEIN, he had called for the both of them to come in. and took off their clothes. recalled that there was a lot of touching. did not want to go back. thought was in a relationship with someone. met , hereto referred to as , through , hereto referred to as is one year older than thought that may have been the one to tell about EPSTEIN. recalled being in the bathroom and telling them that she had heard that and knew a rich guy who they massaged and touched his nipples. asked them, "How bad is it?" responded that it was not that bad and that after he jerks off, it's done. recalled that may have massaged EPSTEIN one to two times, but could have been more times. told that EPSTEIN used a vibrator on her. was not sure if took the first time went to EPSTEIN's home. CONFIDENTIAL 3501.162-024 Page 3 of 8 EFTA_00069749 EFTA01247304 FD-302a (Rev. 5-K-10) 31E-NY-3027571 WI Interview of ContimationofFD-302of on 5/2/2019 .On 05/02/2019 ,hge 4 of 8 met through and are both thought that told her that she had asked to massage EPSTEIN. At one point, witnessed EPSTEIN asking to see one of the girls identification because he wanted to make sure she was under 18. EPSTEIN did not believe that and were bringing him girls under 18 because "messed up" by bringing older girls. discussed how massages with EPSTEIN started and how they progressed. In the beginning, started out as being topless with pants on while EPSTEIN "jerked off." EPSTEIN liked so went back by herself without could not remember when EPSTEIN asked her to take her pants off but thought it may have been the second time she went. then corrected herself stating that it was the first time she went that she took her pants off. recalled that the second time she massaged EPSTEIN, he grabbed her breasts. stated that the times thereafter things progressed to the point where EPSTEIN used a vibrator on top of her underwear on her "clit area". described the vibrator as small and purple. This was the first time had ever seen a vibrator. EPSTEIN would sometimes use the vibrator inside ' underwear. EPSTEIN used the vibrator on when she was naked. could not remember if EPSTEIN penetrated her or not. EPSTEIN made "crazy noises" like "expressive moaning". EPSTEIN asked , "Do you like it or are you enjoying it?" EPSTEIN was very visual and liked to look at ; EPSTEIN looked at her breasts a lot. would usually be standing up when EPSTEIN used the vibrator on her. Approximately one to two times, EPSTEIN laid out and was "touchy" while using the vibrator on her. [Agent note: At this point in the interview, was upset and did not want to go into further detail at this time.) usually took a cab to EPSTEIN's home. did not recall if she had ever taken the train to EPSTEIN's home. recalled that EPSTEIN's home was on 71st Street in New York and described his home as having "big, huge doors" that she thought may have been red or brown in CONFIDENTIAL 3501.162-024 Page 4 of 8 EFTA_00069750 EFTA01247305 FD-302a (Rev. 5$10) approached in March 2019. everything that she said. nervous." 31E-NY-3027571 (U) Interview of ComimationofFD-302of on 5/2/2019 .0n 05/02/2019 ,n,g, 5 of B color and had two to three steps that led up to the doors. recalled that the home next door had steps that led to a downstairs. never took anything to EPSTEIN's home. EPSTEIN did not like lingerie on her. told the girls she recruited not to wear heels and to dress casual in everyday clothes. did not have EPSTEIN's direct phone line would call GROFF to tell her that she needed to speak would either connect her to EPSTEIN or tell her back. When the FBI initially reached out to called GROFF asking to speak with EPSTEIN and told her she would call back. GROFF called her to EPSTEIN. told EPSTEIN that if he was then she was going to talk to the FBI. EPSTEIN told get her a lawyer, but the lawyer could not be the same one he had. . Instead, with EPSTEIN and GROFF that she would call in 2008, thought that GROFF and connected not going to help her that he would was asked if she remembered a statement that she made to her lawyers regarding EPSTEIN telling "you know what I like." recalled that EPSTEIN said that to her after she brought EPSTEIN told her, "What are you doing; you know what I like." EPSTEIN told , "You know what I'm into." understood that to mean EPSTEIN wanted "young, petite, and underage girls." recall if she brought anyone who was 13 years old. and still speaks EPSTEIN. money from the girls she money. thought things," thinking that provide sexual favors. was currently inviting men over. could not still talk. stated she was unsure if with EPSTEIN, but felt that would reach out to stated that was all about making money. took recruited; she kept part of their share of the that was currently "not doing the right may still be involved in getting paid to had told that she thought • discussed the initial meeting with agents when she was stated that she did not remember stated she was "too nervous, very felt uncomfortable and felt like she needed a lawyer CONFIDENTIAL 3501.162-024 Page 5 of 8 EFTA 00069751 EFTA01247306 FD-302a (Rev. 5-K-10) 31E—NY-3027571 (U) Interview of ComimationofFD-302of on 5/2/2019 .on 05/02/2019 ,Nge 6 of 8 because she did not know if she was going to go to jail if she answered questions. stated that she may not have been honest because she was scared. provided a number of photographs of herself and other individuals from the time period where she was massaging EPSTEIN. identified the individuals in each of the photographs listed below. The photographs have been placed in a lA envelope. Photo 1: unknown female, at age 15/16 Photo 2: (Photo was taken at ) Lamp in photo may have been given by EPSTEIN. thought she mixed up the lamps that she talked about in her previous interview, stating that the lamps of the naked women on them were in his home and not gifted to her. Photo 3: Photo 4: (Photo was taken at the 1st Yankees game they attended; unsure what year) Photo 5: (Photo was taken Photo 6: (Photo was taken when was approximately 14/15 years old) Photo 7: Photo 8: Photo 9: Photo home. 10: unknown female who was the same unknown female in photo thought the unknown female may have been recalled going with and the unknown female to EPSTEIN's thought went upstairs with the unknown female. The 1 unknown female went to EPSTEIN's home approximately one to two times. CONFIDENTIAL 3501.162-024 Page 6 of 8 EFTA_00069752 EFTA01247307 FD-302a (Rev. 54-10) 31E-NY-3027571 (U) Interview of Continuation of FD-302 of on 5/2/2019 a 05/02/2019 Page 7 of B was unsure of the unknown female's age.) Photo 11: was not sure how old they were in the photo.) Photo 12: Photo 13: I.) Photo 14: .) Photo 15: believed that never went to EPSTEIN. Lamps from EPSTEIN are seen in this photo.) Photo 16: Photo 17: Photo 18: unknown female who could be Photo 19: 16. Photo A: Photo B: Photo C: (Photo was taken by on the same day as photo Photo D: in the front row, with unknown female, unknown female, possibly , and unknown female in the back row. Photo E: Unknown female, Photo F: CONFIDENTIAL 3501.162-024 Page 7 of 8 EFTA_00069753 EFTA01247308 FD-302a (Rev. 54-10) 31E-NY-3027571 (U) Interview of Continuation of FD•302 of on 5/2/2019 0a 05/02/2019 Page B of B In the interest of time, not all subject matter was covered during this interview. CONFIDENTIAL 3501.162-024 Page 8 of 8 EFTA_00069754 EFTA01247309

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