DS9 Document EFTA01248647

1 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA CASE NO. 08-CIV-80893 MARR/JOHNSON JANE DOE, Plaintiff, vs. JEFFREY EPSTEIN, Defendant. Tuesday, June 15, 2010 4:06 p.m. SWORN STATEMENT OF MARITZA VASQUEZ Taken before ELAINE CRANDALL, Registered Professional Reporter and Notary Public in and for the State of Florida at Large, pursuant to Notice of Taking Unsworn Statement in the above cause. U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page I oft EFTA 00074461 EFTA01248647 1 2 3 4 5 6 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 1'7 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 APPEARANCES FARMER, JAFFE, WEISSING, EDWARDS, FISTOS & LEHRMAN BY: BRADLEY EDWARDS, ESQ. 425 North Andrews Avenue, Suite 2 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301-3268 ALSO PRESENT: MICHAEL FISTEN U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 2 of 83 EFTA_00074462 EFTA01248648 Thereupon-- MARITZA VASQUEZ was called as a witness by the Plaintiff and, after having been first duly sworn, was examined and testified as follows: DIRECT EXAMINATION 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 BY MR. EDWARDS: Q. Tell us your name. A. Maritza Vasquez. Q. And just to the get to the point, you know who Jeffrey Epstein is? A. Yes. Q. And you've met him before? A. Yes. Q. And you know who Jean-Luc Brunel is? A. Yes. Q. And you have met him before? A. Yes. Q. Which one did you meet first? A. Jean-Luc Brunel. Q. And where did you meet him? A. In Miami Beach. Q. When? A. In 1998. Q. And how? U.S. Le al Su ort CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 3 of 83 EFTA_00074463 EFTA01248649 1 2 3 4 S 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. In his office. Q. Related to what; modeling? A. Working, yeah. Modeling. Q. What, at that point in time, did you know about Jean-Luc Brunel? A. Nothing. At that time I didn't know anything. Q. So how did you meet with Jean-Luc Brunel in his office in 1998? A. Because there was a gentleman from Switzerland who wanted to make business with them. And I was hired by that gentleman to look through all the accounts to make sure that -- you know, they were kind of in bankruptcy. But he wanted to know that his money, his investment, would be good. So that's why I went. Like, an external audit to do -- to see what was the income, the expenses and something like that. Q. Who is the guy from Switzerland? A. I'm not going to tell you his name. Q. Is that somebody who is still in touch with Jean-Luc Brunel? A. No. Not at all. Q. What's the reason for not wanting to disclose his name? Does he have anything to do U.S. Le al Su ort CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 4 of 83 EFTA_00074464 EFTA01248650 5 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 with this case? A. No. But I don't have permission. I have to ask him. Q. Okay. And after your meeting with Jean-Luc Brunel in 1998 -- well, what company was Jean-Luc Brunel with then? A. Karin's Models, it was, at that time. Q. K-A-R-I-N? A. Yes. Q. And is that the only other modeling agency that you have known Jean-Luc Brunel to be associated with, besides MC Squared? A. Yes. Q. And how long was Jean-Luc with Karin, from 1998 through -- A. No, Jean-Luc was the owner of Karin's. Before that. I think since 1986, in Paris. Q. All right. And why was he no longer affiliated with Karin at some point in time? A. He closed -- he -- how you say -- he made a dissolution. He dissolved the company. Q• Were you ever hired to work with Karin? A. I was hired to work with Karin's, yeah. Q. When was that? A. In 1998. U.S. Le al Su ort CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 5 of 83 EFTA_00074465 EFTA01248651 6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q. What was your position? A. At that time, bookkeeper. Q. In Miami? A. Yes. Q. And how long did you stay as the bookkeeper in Miami for Karin? A. Until 2003, when they changed the company to MC Squared. Q. So when did the official change come from Karin to MC Squared? A. In 2003. Q. And when is the first time you met Jeffrey Epstein? A. I met Jeffrey Epstein only once in my life. And I believe it was in 2003. Two thousand -- yeah, by the end of 2003, 2004. Q. Where? A. In New York. Q. What was the occasion? A. It was the open party for MC Squared. Q. Where was that held? A. In a discotheque in Manhattan. Q. What discotheque? A. I don't know. I don't remember. Q. And did you meet Elaine Maxwell? U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 6 of 83 EFTA 00074466 EFTA01248652 A. I don't know her name. But he was with -- with a woman. I don't know. 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 15 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q. And what is your understanding or what was your understanding that Jeffrey -- in terms of Jeffrey Epstein's involvement with MC Squared? A. Jean-Luc always said that Jeffrey was his friend, that he is a millionaire. And that Jeffrey was giving him the money to -- you know, loans or whatever -- and the apartments for the girls and things like that. Q. All right. Let's break that down. Giving money for what purpose? For furthering MC Squared? A. For -- for -- yeah, the money came to MC Squared, not to -- I don't know. Prior to 2003, I don't know if Jeffrey Epstein ever gave him money. I know that from the longest Jean-Luc was living in an apartment that belongs to Jeffrey Epstein. Q. What apartment is that? A. It's in New York. I don't know the address. Q. Is that a A. Yeah, something like that. I think it's that one. And it's my understanding that Jeffrey U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 7 of 83 EFTA_00074467 EFTA01248653 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Epstein owns or controls numerous apartments in that -- at that same address; is that right? A. Yes. Yes. Q. And have you ever been to that address? A. No. Q. And how do you know that he owns or controls numerous apartments at that address? A. Because at that time Evelyn Valenzeula was the office manager of the new and she was dealing personally with the assistant of Jeffrey Epstein. And she had to do the payments for the cable and, I believe, electricity. Q. And Evelyn -- who was the assistant of Jeffrey Epstein that Evelyn was dealing with? A. I don't know. Q. A. I believe so. Q. Do you remember that name? A. Yes. Q. That's somebody who no longer lives here, right? A. I believe I heard that, yeah. Q. Who did you hear that from? A. From Evelyn, from Conetta (phonetic), from -- U.S. Le al Su ort CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 8 of 83 EFTA_00074468 EFTA01248654 9 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 1.3 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q. Okay. And at some point in time you came to know that the models were also staying in these apartments atINEMIEIMMII right? A. I don't know specifically they stay at Jean-Luc's apartment. But I know that the models were staying in different apartments that belong to Jeffrey Epstein. Q. And what are the names of the models that were staying there, that you remember? A. Most of them. You know, at that time, when I was there who -- all the little girls. Q. How do you spell that? A. I -- you know, that was in 2000-something. I don't recall all the names. But there is a list that you can get it from the office in New York. Q. A list -- A. They have a list of models that they were staying in those apartments. Q. If I were to request it from the office in New York, what would I ask for? A. For the models' apartment list. Chargeback for models apartments. Q. Chargeback? U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 9 of 83 EFTA_00074469 EFTA01248655 10 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. Yeah, because Jeffrey Epstein never charged Jean-Luc for rent but Jean-Luc was charging rent to the girls. And in her statements it shows . And he was charging them, like, a thousand dollars a month. Q. How do you know that? A. Because I was doing the statements. Q. You were actually the one doing the statements? A. Not all the time. I was in New York starting 2003. Q. Through what date? You were in New York from 2003 to -- A. 2006. Q. And while you were in New York you were working for MC Squared? A. Yes. Q. And what is the proof that you have seen that Jeffrey Epstein was a partner or financial supporter of MC Squared? A. I was the one who took the papers to Mellon Bank. Q. That's in Miami? A. Yes. And Swetpaul (phonetic) -- I was U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 10 of 83 EFTA 00074470 EFTA01248656 11 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 talking at the time to Rich -- I believe his name was Rich Gany. That was one of the other assistants of Jeffrey Epstein. Q. Gany, G-A-N-Y? A. Yeah. Q. Do they call him Eric Gany? A. That is him name, yeah, Eric Gany. That's his name. I recall some things, not all the time. I recall that Mr. Epstein didn't want to sign the papers, but Mellon Bank didn't want to accept the Line of Credit if he didn't sign. So we had to return the papers to New York so he actually signed the documents. Q• And what was he actually signing, that you remember? Signing over as a Line of Credit or -- A. As a line -- as the grantor of the Line of Credit. Because the Line of Credit came from J. P. Morgan directly, but he was the grantor. He was the one who actually was responsible. Q. And how much was the Line of Credit? A. A million dollars, it was, at that time. Q. And did you ever keep track of whether or not that line was extended or any additional monies were given to MC Squared? U.S. Le al Su ort CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page I I of 83 EFTA_00074471 EFTA01248657 A. No, I don't know. Q. So in addition to his financial guarantor on the Line of Credit of a million dollars, what other involvement are you aware of that Jeffrey Epstein had with MC Squared and/or 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 the apartments at where the models lived? A. They were planning on buying or associating with a girl in -- in France for a for a company. They were planning to do a company. And, actually, I gave the paper to -- to Mr. Shawn Connolly, which is an actual paper that came from the office from Jeffrey Epstein, that he was giving instructions to Jean-Luc saying that he wanted to have the same contracts as -- uh, what's his name, of Donald Trump, and that he wanted to have the same kind of benefits for the scouters. So he was giving instructions to Jean-Luc on what to do, what to -- there is a woman in Paris, I don't recall her name, Frelit (phonetic), I believe it was, and they were -- they were, the three of them, trying to do a new company. But then everything was, like, on zero. They never -- they never did it together. Q. And do you know why? U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 12 of 83 EFTA 00074472 EFTA01248658 13 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. No. Q. Would you know the lady's name in Paris if I -- A. If you give it to me, yeah. If you give me the name, I can recall. Q • Okay. While I'm looking for that, how many girls that were models were living in the apartments at any given time at Imo? A. That's -- that's not only one apartment. There are a lot of apartments there. There is not only one girl. There is not only one apartment. I believe there were, like, two or three apartments. And they were put in between four girls per apartment, I believe. Q • How many apartments? A. I believe there were, like, two or three. Q. And there is four girls per apartment? A. Yeah. Q. And you know that because you saw the documentation at MC Squared that showed where these girls were living? A. Yes. Q• Did you also have something to do with U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 13 of 83 EFTA_00074473 EFTA01248659 14 the visas that were prepared for the girls that 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 were working? A. Yes. I was providing the names to the attorney. His name is Luis Font. He was doing the visas here in Miami. There was another -- Valenzuela was handling directly the visas in New York. And only when she had problems, she hired another attorney. I don't know the name of the attorney in New York. But Luis Font is the -- was, at that time, the attorney handling the visas for Miami. Q. Do you remember doing the visa for fill/1111a A. No, that was done in New York by Eve Valenzuela. Q. And visa, that you specifically remember being done, right? A. Yeah, I remember that. Because at one point, I believe, one of the renovations of her visa, something happened. And Mr. Epstein called the office while I was there and was really upset. And he spoke with Jean-Luc and they -- they were really nasty with Eve and, you know, it wasn't if -- it wasn't Eve's fault. It was their fault because they gave the wrong information. But, you U.S. Le al Su ort CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 14 of 83 EFTA 00074474 EFTA01248660 15 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 know, she was only an employee and that's it. Q. How did come into the country? A. By a model's visa, I believe. Q. And was she brought in specifically by Jeffrey Epstein or Jean-Luc or do you remember? A. Mr. Epstein was paying for the visas. But, you know, all the visas were done through -- through Karin's or MC Squared. I believe she came with Karin's visa first, then everything transferred to MC Square. And I believe those visas were paid directly by Mr. Epstein. Q. How old was when she first came? A. I don't know. I wasn't in New York at that time. Because I know she came prior to me getting involved in New York. Q. And you were involved in New York in A. Yes. Q. So she came in some time before that? A. I believe so. Q. But even back in= she still -- I don't know how old she is now. She's probably , right; do you know? U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 15 of 83 EFTA 00074475 EFTA01248661 16 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. No. Q. Have you ever met her? A. No. Q. Have you ever met (phonetic)? A. No. Q. IMS You have only met Jeffrey Epstein once in person. How many times have you talked to him on the phone? A. Maybe once. Q. At some point in time you drove several girls or a number of girls over to Jeffrey Epstein's house; correct? A. Not me. Jean-Luc directly took them. I was making the arrangements to get a limousine or a car. And Jean-Luc himself was driving the girls to his house because he was having a party and there were supposed to be girls. Q. Which girls did he drive over there? A. One time I know he went with with uh, what's her name? Four girls from Brazil, from the same agency. is one of them because I remember her name. The other ones -- maybe if you -- U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 16 of 83 EFTA 00074476 EFTA01248662 17 1 2 3 4 S 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 is 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. No. Q. A. No. Q. Do you know those two girls? A. Yes. Q. And were those girls somehow involved with Jean-Luc or the modeling agency? A. Yes. Q. They were both MC Squared models? A. Yes. Q. And at the time, when they began, how old were they; do you remember? A. I believe a was, like, 14, 15. And was 13, 14, when she came. Q. Okay. And do you know where they are now, either one of them? A. I know EMI is in New York. Q. When is the last time you talked to her? A. In 2006. Q. How do you know she is in New York? A. Because I saw her pictures whenever. I believe she's in New York. I don't know if she really is in New York but I believe. Q. A. , the last time I saw her was in U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 17 of 83 EFTA_00074477 EFTA01248663 18 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 2006, too. And, specifically, I don't know where she is. But if she's in the United States, I believe she's in New York. If not, she is in Q• All right. Do you know this person in A. No. Q. Here is a document that we obtained related to information from Jeffrey Epstein's computer system. It says Massage Paris. It's in a square there and it continues to the next page. Tell me if you recognize any of those names. A. No. is one of the girls that went with now that I'm seeing kind of names. is one of the other ones. If this is or something like that, it's a black girl that I believe she was -- she was not underage but she was going out with one of Jeffrey's best friends. Q. Who is that? A. I believe -- Q. Who is Jeffrey's best friend that she was going out with? A. I don't know. I don't know. something like that, is her name. U.S. Le al Suo ort CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page IS of 83 EFTA_00074478 EFTA01248664 19 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q. All right. What information do you have about Jean-Luc being involved with underage girls at any point in time? And by that I mean being involved sexually with underage girls. A. One day he told me that he wishes he can sleep with one of those girls that was underage. And I told him that's a minor, whatever. And then -- hold on, that's my son. (Telephone interruption.) A. He had a problem, you know. I cannot say I saw them, look, because I would be lying. And I'm not going to say any lie. But the only thing that I can tell you that what I saw about Jean-Luc is that Jean-Luc is a a Q. At some point in time you actually saw evidence of that, right? A. Yes. Q• I mean, him does every day? A. that somebody -- I know Mr. Epstein doesn't take any alcohol, drugs. I know that. I heard that. Q. How do you know? U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 19 of 83 EFTA_00074479 EFTA01248665 20 A. I heard that. I heard that. I don't know, because I never met -- I never -- I was never, like, around him or nothing like that. I'm just telling you what I heard. But regarding Jean-Luc, I know I know he has that kind of problem, no? 10 II 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q. II ill' Q. What about Jeff Fuller? A. He was one time on the Internet, you know, like, a report on that. Q. And is Jeff Fuller somebody else who you also knew to have been associated sexually with underage girls? A. Jeff, I -- you know, I don't think Jeff. I always thought Jeff was ill. For me, he'slIIII You know, that's the impression that I have. But I don't think so. Q• Did you find out that Jeffrey Epstein and/or Jean-Luc Brunel were involved in these underage girls that were staying in these apartments at A. I really don't know that. You know, I U.S. Le al Su ort CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 20 of 83 EFTA_00074480 EFTA01248666 21 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 cannot tell you. I know there were girls staying there. I never knew if they were going there or not. Q. You mean, you knew that the girls were staying there; 13, 14, 15? A. Some of the girls were underage, yeah. Q. As well as 13, 14 or so? A. Thirteen or 14, yeah. Q. Did you ever ask any of the girls if they were sexually involved with Jean-Luc and/or Jeffrey Epstein? A. No. One time there was a problem with And she was -- I believe she was 14 years old. And she tried to go -- or they took her to a discotheque in Miami Beach. And when I went to work the day after, they told me that the police was asking. So since she was doing whatever she wanted, you know, I brought her to my house and I said, you're not going out at night; you're only 13, 14, and that's my responsibility. Q. Do you know Sergio Cordero? A. Yes. Q. And do you know what Sergio's role was in getting girls or something for Jeffrey Epstein? A. Yeah. That -- that is something that U.S. Le al Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 21 of 83 EFTA 00074481 EFTA01248667 22 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Sergio, you know, comment with me. And he said that when Jeffrey Epstein went to Ecuador, Jean-Luc told me that he has to bring girls and this and that, because Jeffrey was coming to Ecuador. So they did such a big thing. Q. Right. But in terms of bringing girls, specifically girls, that were very young? A. Yeah, but there was girls from Ecuador. There is nothing you can do there. It's South America. Q. I understand that. I'm not saying whether it was legal or illegal. I'm just asking you, the direction was that Jean-Luc told Sergio -- A. Not to bring girls. Never said never -- Sergio knew that they like young girls. Q• A. By young, what are we talking about? Eighteen, 19. Sergio -- you know, I know Sergio. And more than anything, like, Sergio is a father. And I don't think he will put his hands on a ten, 11, 12, 13-year-old girl. You know what I mean? Q• I'm not asking about him. Do you know of Jeffrey Epstein being involved with underage girls? U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 22 of 83 EFTA_00074482 EFTA01248668 23 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. I heard that, yeah. Q. You heard that through whom? I don't mean just the newspapers and things like that. I mean -- A. No. Through -- through the office. Through Jean-Luc. Through -- there were conversations of Jean-Luc saying that, you know. Q. Saying what? A. That Jeffrey likes underage girls. And never directly but, you know, his conversations were like that. Q. Okay. But, specifically, I just want to know what evidence that we have, what real conversations that you heard, about Jeffrey Epstein liking underage girls. A. I'm telling you Jean-Luc saying it from his mouth. Q. Okay. And, specifically, he says Jeffrey Epstein likes underage girls or he likes 12-year-olds or likes what? A. No, he likes young girls. When they were talking in the office, there were a lot of people. So they were not stupid. They were knowing how to talk. Because they were making, like, a big thing of, oh, look, he's going out U.S. Le al Su ort CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 23 of 83 EFTA 00074483 EFTA01248669 24 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 with (phonetic), and we knewEMI. was only 18 years old. She is a young girl. So that's the kind of girl he likes. You know what I mean? Q• But there is nothing illegal going out with an 18-year-old girl. And that's what I'm asking. A. No. Q. What information do we have that Jeffrey Epstein was involved with underage girls? I mean, I have a lot of information of my own. But I'm asking what information do you know. A. The only thing I heard in the office, that Jean-Luc say it, that they like -- when they say, oh, I wish I could sleep with this girl or the fact that he was taking 15, 16-year-old girls to his house. Q. Who? A. I know that because I saw him. Jean-Luc was taking 15-year-old girls to his own place? A. No, to Jeffrey's house. Q. To Jeffrey's house? A. Yes. Q. And what 15-year-old girls was he taking U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 24 of 83 EFTA_00074484 EFTA01248670 25 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 to Jeffrey's house? A. At the time I'm telling you it was , lila I don't know remember the other two girls. There is two & girls. I gave it to you before, the names. I don't remember right now. Q. Do you know Leslie Groff? A. No. Q. Do you know Khalid Mohammed? A. Yes. Q. What did he do? A. He was a scouter and a booker. Q. Scouter; what does that mean? A. Person looking for models. Q. And how legitimate was A. Khalid Salaam. Q. Salaam? A. Yeah. Q. Right. Where was he bringing models in from or looking for models? Outside the country or -- A. Inside the country. Very -- not often from outside the country, no, no. From inside. Q. Did you ever hear of any of the parties that took place on Jeffrey Epstein's island? U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 25 of 83 EFTA 00074485 EFTA01248671 26 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 0 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. In -- Q• Little St. James? A. One New Year's, I believe -- that was, like, 2004, 2005, that New Year's -- they were having a party there. Q. Who was having a party there? A. Mr. Epstein. Q. And who was at the party that you know? A. I know Jean-Luc was there. But then -- specifically, I don't know if Jean-Luc stay there, because what I do recall is that, during those days, there was, like, December 30 or 29, something like that, Jean-Luc call me from Puerto Rico that he was doing the scouting and he -- actually, he was the one who told me that he had to go to Jeffrey's island because they were having the party there for New Year's. Q. What other girls do you know of that were at that party? A. I don't know. Q. Do you know of any of the other people that were at that party? A. No. Q. Just Jean-Luc and Epstein? A. Yes. U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 26 of 83 EFTA_00074486 EFTA01248672 27 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1.1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q. The last time that we talked, I have just the investigative report, which basically was just typed up from the things that you said. It was written that Ms.a advised that she, herself, submitted the documents to renew foreign visa on at least two occasions. A. No, not me. It was Evelyn Valenzeula. I never did her visa. That visa was done by Evelyn in New York. Q. When is the first time that you learned that was involved with Jeffrey Epstein? A. I believe in III/. After I was out of the company. Q. You didn't know, when you were in the company, that they were involved? A. No. U • • • ■ • U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-00I Page 27 of 83 EFTA_00074487 EFTA01248673 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 28 of 83 EFTA_00074488 EFTA01248674 10 11 SIMS ■ ■ 12 • 13 • 14 15 • 16 17 Q. The last time, I have a lot of other 18 notes about some of the models that were being 19 brought in and signing visas, as if they were 20 going to work here, but really they were living in 21 the apartment and didn't really do any modeling 22 work. 23 A. Yeah, that is true. That is true. I 24 told you that. Many, many girls were coming here. 25 Many girls were coming here first without a visa, U.S. Le al Su ort CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 29 of 83 EFTA 00074489 EFTA01248675 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 without a working visa. Most of the girls, they were coming in to the States as tourists. They were working -- whenever they work, they were collecting 30 percent from their income when they were not even legal. They didn't even have a Social Security or nothing but they never pay it. Neither to the government, neither to the girls, you know. And within the time, I believe Jean-Luc start getting pressure from Mr. Epstein that he didn't want to get in trouble and he put some pressure on Jean-Luc. So he wanted all the girls to have a visa. So they start working on the visas of the girls. Q. Okay. A. And they were making, like, contracts or things like that. Because, prior to that, they didn't have it. Prior to that, when Jean-Luc -- prior to Jean-Luc getting the money from Mr. Epstein, Jean-Luc was doing whatever he wanted. Q. Okay. A. And later, you know, Mr. Epstein put the. money that he had to start taking, you know, all the invoices from Mr. Epstein. Does Jeffrey Epstein know that Jean-Luc U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 30 of 83 EFTA_00074490 EFTA01248676 31 1. 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 is a A. I don't know. I don't even know that Mr. Epstein knows that Jean-Luc lied to him all the time. Because when he -- when I gave the Line of Credit to Jean-Luc, Jean-Luc presented false statements to him. You know, Mr. Epstein wanted to see that the company was a profitable company and we had to hide all those numbers. And we had to give him, like, positive numbers so he can see that the company was making money but in belief always was in red. Q. What do you mean by that? Jeffrey Epstein said, hey, I'm going to give you money as long as the company is positive? A. Yeah. Mr. Epstein wanted to see -- I believe -- I believe, since he's a very successful person moneywise, he was not stupid to put his money, even though he knew he was able to get girls or whatever, you know, if that was the case. But deep inside he wanted to see if these people really -- if this company was profitable for him to put a million dollars. So maybe Eric Gany, at the time, was one of his advisors. And they wanted to see the profit and loss statements and, you know, the U.S. Le al Su ort CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 31 oft EFTA 00074491 EFTA01248677 32 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 balance book or whatever. I told you the name of the accountant that you could go and took all those papers, you know, make a subpoena or whatever, of Richard Fernandez, that he could give you all the information, 1998, '99, 2000, after 2005, that he did everything and you could see the company was always in red, always. Q. So the company wasn't profitable but Jean-Luc falsified documents to show to Jeffrey Epstein? A. Yes. Q. And have you seen the real documents and the falsified documents? A. Yes. Q. So you know that they were falsified? A. Yes. Q. Is it your understanding that Jeffrey Epstein is still involved, from a financial aspect, in MC Squared? A. I believe so. Because, as far as I know, the Line of Credit wasn't paid. The million dollars wasn't paid. Q• And Jean-Luc and Jeffrey Epstein are still friends? U.S. Le al Sup ort CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 32 of 83 EFTA_00074492 EFTA01248678 33 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 B 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. Yes. Jean-Luc is still living in Jeffrey Epstein's apartment in New York. Q. How do you know that? A. Well, because -- because I know. Q. From Evelyn? A. Yes. Q. Is Evelyn still working for MC Squared? A. No. Q. Do you know who is working for MC Squared? A. It was working until not too long ago a very -- Evelyn's goddaughter, Jobelin, she was working there. Q. How do you spell it? A. J-O-B-E-L-I-N. Q. Okay. Anybody else? A. In Europe? Q. Yea, or here. A. No, that was related to Eve? No, Evelyn -- Jobelin. Q. Who works in the MC Squared office here? A. Here, I knew other things, because Amanda Grant and -- I gave you her name more than one time. Amanda was working with them until 2008. And she got a lot of information. And she U.S. Legal Su ort CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 33 of 83 EFTA_00074493 EFTA01248679 34 1 2 3 4 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 wanted -- you know, she call -- I arrange she call Immigration, because they screw her. And, actually, they made her leave the company because she has -- . And they were giving her a lot of bad -- bad time. (Telephone interruption.) Q. How do you spell her name, Amanda Grand, G-R-A-N-D? A. N-T. Amanda Grant. Q. And do you know her address, phone number; something like that? A. I have -- you can get it in Facebook. She's in Facebook. Amanda Grant. Q• Do you have it? A. Not in this phone. My other phone broke so I don't. I can get it for you, if you want. Q. Yeah, I would appreciate it. A. Yeah. Amanda had also the information of monies, as I told you before, that took monies that they were transferred to the British Virgin Islands. Q. Monies transferred to the British Virgin Islands? A. Yes. U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-00I Page 34 of 83 EFTA_00074494 EFTA01248680 35 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 4• From what account to what? A. Jean-Luc opened an account there because Jeffrey told him that it was better to open an account there. So there was money -- like, for example, if the monies were going to Manuel Cruz to do a shoot or something, Jean-Luc was negotiating with the girls and say, okay, if you go to do the sunny photos, I give you $2,000 cash, no reports, whatever. So Jean-Luc had -- as billing that company from another company, or from the British Virgin Islands. So he was neither paying taxes here and maybe he was making $20,000 on that shooting and he was giving the girl only $2,000 and that money never came to be reported here. Q. Okay. Other than you saying that you know that a 15-year-old or so went to Jean-Luc's house with him, how else do we know that Jean-Luc and/or Jeffrey Epstein, I'm more concerned with Jeffrey Epstein, were involved sexually with underage girls? A. How do I know? I -- I -- I cannot tell you that I saw -- that I was there because that's not true. I never saw anything. Q. Right. But sometimes you just know? U.S. Le al Su Dort CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-00I Page 35 of 83 EFTA 00074495 EFTA01248681 36 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. Yeah, sometimes -- and that's -- that's what I can tell you. I know because -- I can tell you about Jean-Luc, that I know because I met him for ten years. Okay? I can put my hands on fire and I can tell you that he did it. About Jean-Luc I can say it. I don't know about Mr. Epstein because I was never -- I met him once in my life. I saw him once in my life. And after that, when I saw him, was in the newspapers; that's it. Q. And, otherwise, you just heard that Jeffrey Epstein likes underage girls? A. Underage girls, yeah. Q. And there was a time where Sergio well, I've talked to Sergio, so I'll talk to him about whatever the Ecuador trip was. A. Yes. Q. All right. Do you know of this company, COUQ -- A. No. Q. -- Foundation. All right. Do you know of somebody by the name of Gypsy, G-Y-P-S-Y? A. No. Q. Somebody who provided Jeffrey Epstein girls? A. No. U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-00I Page 36 of 83 EFTA_00074496 EFTA01248682 3"1 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q. A. Q. A. Q• How about Jileta (phonetic)? No. Never heard that name? No. A. I believe I heard that name. But I -- Q. She works up in New York and I believe she works for Jeffrey Epstein in some capacity. Do you know what that is? A. I believe so. No. Q. Okay. A. The person who can tell you that is Eve. Because Eve was very involved with Jeffrey Epstein's office. Q• What is Eve's number again? A. Q. Do you know Jojo Fontanella? A. No. Q. No? Other than Jean-Luc, what other people that are friends with Jean-Luc share this interest in underage girls, that you know of? A. No. Q. I mean, who are his friends? Who are the guys he hangs out with? A. Jeff. When he was in Miami, Jeff, U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 37 of 83 EFTA_00074497 EFTA01248683 38 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Corrado. Q. Who is Corrado? A. A friend of Jean-Luc. An Italian guy. They were always like that, Corrado and Luc. I met Jean-Luc's friends in Ecuador, like people that had to be -- people that they were involved with modeling agencies in Europe, in South America, but very different people, very different people. I met some people from France. Pero, really, even if they were guys or whatever, gentlemen. You know, like, very proper people. Like, from Brazil, too. And the womans, you know. Q. How about Simon Parra; you know who that is? A. Simon Parra, yeah. Q. How do you know him? A. I met him through Jean-Luc. Q. And what's his story? A. Mr. Parra was a very good friend of the office. I cannot say of Jean-Luc because he was only a friend of him. He was a very good friend of the office, because Mr. Parra is a gentleman. He was lending money to the office. Whenever I requested, he always gave it to me for the office. You know, that I signed -- I had to sign papers U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 38 of 83 EFTA_00074498 EFTA01248684 39 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 for him or whatever, to -- to do the payrolls or whatever. But Mr. Parra is a guy that he likes to be surrounded by girls. But not underage girls. Q. Okay. What was Jeffrey Epstein getting out of MC Squared? A. The only thing that I can think he was getting was the girls. Nothing else. Because he has all the money. Q. And the company wasn't making money anyway? A. No. Q. And you know the company wasn't making money? A. It wasn't at all. At all. So the only thing that he was -- I believe that he wanted to get involved was because of the girls, that's it. Pero, he wanted to do it legally, like, girls coming here, even if they were underage or whatever, with visas. Q• Because the modeling industry is one of those industries where there is a lot of girls underage coming in the country, right? A. Yes. Q. That's pretty easy access to underage girls? U.S. Le al Su ort CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 39 of 83 EFTA_00074499 EFTA01248685 40 1 2 3 4 5 6 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. Yes. Q. And they come in the country and they don't have their parents? A. Yes. Q. So they don't really have any parental supervision while they're here? A. Not at all. Q. So the modeling industry is one that some guys use that to get underage girls and that's happened for a long time, really, right? A. Yes. Q• does? So is that what Jean-Luc Brunel still A. Yes. Q. Still uses it to get underage girls to sleep with, really, right? A. Yes. Q• And Jeffrey Epstein, too? A. I cannot tell you that because I don't know. I know if there is -- there is kind of a relationship, I believe they will or he will. You know, he still does it. But I don't know. I cannot tell you because I was never -- I was never -- what I can say that I know, because I was with that person for the longest, was with U.S. Le al Su ort CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 40 of 83 EFTA_00074500 EFTA01248686 41 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Jean-Luc. The same thing that I can tell you, that even if he has a daughter, whatever, I put my hands on fire that Jeff Fuller isle Q. Okay. And Jean-Luc, you saw him= at work? A. Not in the office. But sometimes he was coming to the office, like, that he had to go, oh, you go and clean yourself or whatever, you know. Q. Would he talk about his EMII A. Not directly, but it was a box properly, everyone knew about that. And he was the one -- the kind of person who didn't feel ashamed to tell. For example, Sergio was there and I was here and he was there and he was, like, Sergio, go and get me the best one, you know. And Sergio was going and getting it for him. Q. So he didn't really hide the fact that he A. No. No. But not in the office, not in front of the bookers. Q. Where is the office in New York? A. Six West 14th Street. U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 41 of 83 EFTA 00074501 EFTA01248687 42 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 B 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q. And do you know what Khalid is doing now? A. No. Q. Is he in Miami? A. Yes, he's in Miami. Q. Do you know his number? A. No, I don't know his number. Q. How about Mike Sanka? A. Michael Sanka, he's in California. Q. What did he do? A. He represents -- he represents artists, players. He is, like, a manager. Q. Did he have any role in procuring underage girls for anybody? A. Never. No. Not at all. Q. How about Arnaud Brunel? A. He's Jean-Luc's brother. Q. Is he here in Miami? A. No. Q. Where is he? A. France. Q. Has he ever been here in Miami? A. Yes. Q. When is the last time you talked to him? Been a while? U.S. Le al Suo ort CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 42 of 83 EFTA 00074502 EFTA01248688 43 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. 2006. No, 2003. Q• Okay. Is he close with Jean-Luc? A. No. Well, he's his brother, you know. Q. Yeah. A. There is a blood relation there. But I can tell you it's, like, oil and water, two different persons. Two different heads. Two different mentalities. Q. Who are the people -- A. A gentleman and a beast. Mr. Arnaud Brunel is a gentleman, a very correct person, very transparent. The other is the opposite. Q. Do you know this guy, Etienne? A. Etienne Rau. He was another partner of Jean-Luc, in Karin's. Another gentleman, another real good person. Actually, Jean-Luc screw him and he took him out from Karin's. He closed Karin's here in Miami, without Mr. Etienne's knowledge. Q. And if we talk to Etienne, he would not have nice things to say about Jean-Luc? A. No. Not at all. Q. What about -- A. Ruth. Q. Who is that? U.S. Le al Su ort CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 43 of 83 EFTA_00074503 EFTA01248689 44 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 B 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. Ruth, the other lady in Paris. It's the same thing. She will tell you everything. Jean-Luc came from Paris -- How do you spell her name? Q. A. I don't know her name. Her last name I don't know. Her name is Ruth. R-U-T-H. Like, he came from Paris. Because if he stay in Paris, he had to pay taxes and this and that. Everything that he was avoiding. 4• Who, Jean-Luc? A. Jean-Luc. 4• Do you know how he and Jeffrey Epstein became friends? A. No. 4. A. Q. Or why they became friends? No. I mean, other than underage girls, what else do those two have in common? A. That's the only thing, I believe. And it's very -- you know, like, I saw Mr. Epstein once in a gym, in a church, very simple. And you see Jean-Luc on the same place and you see Jean-Luc with a -- Prada pants and with a Gucci T-shirt and with Dolce Cabana sunglasses. It's like two different characters. U.S. Le al Sup ort CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 44 of 83 EFTA_00074504 EFTA01248690 45 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q. And how many girls, at any one time, would MC Squared have under them? A. A lot. Like, over 200, 300. Q. Other than the one time where four girls were taken to Jeffrey Epstein's house -- and all four of those girls were underage at the time, right? A. Yes. Q. They were 14 or 15 at the time? A. Yeah, 15, 16, 14; something like that. Q. Other than that time, what other occasion -- jog your memory, think this through -- have you known of Jeffrey Epstein to be in the same vicinity as any of the models? Was there ever a time that Jean-Luc says, hey, Jeffrey Epstein is coming up to New York this weekend, we're going to hang out at the apartment or Jeffrey Epstein is this? A. No. Never. Jean-Luc never mentioned his name until 2003, when, actually, Mr. Epstein got involved. To me, you know, to me. Prior to that, one more time, you can talk to Eve. She knew Jeffrey Epstein prior -- prior to me. Q. Before you did? A. Yes. U.S. Le al Su ort CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 45 of 83 EFTA_00074505 EFTA01248691 Q. And she has seen him more often than you have? A. Of course, because she was in New York all the time. She live in New York and I never live there. I was, like, commuting one week in New York, two weeks in Miami. One week in New York, two weeks in Miami. Q. ■ 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 U a a U U U Q. All right. Like I said, I would hope and think that this whole thing -- that your involvement is completely done. However, there is one case that Jeffrey Epstein has not settled right now that could go to trial. If it went to trial, then we could be called at trial. But it's highly unlikely that is going to happen. I'm just letting you know there is a possibility. , do you know who that is? U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 46 of 83 EFTA_00074506 EFTA01248692 47 2 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. No. Q. A. No. Q. Joelle Pashcow? A. No. Q. Lynn Fontanelle? A. No. Q. A. No. Q. A. , I know -- I didn't mention her because I didn't remember her name. Now you say it, was a girl who was working for Karin's. She was not underage but she was a young girl. She was working for Karin's. She was studying and she was living at Jeffrey Epstein's apartment. She was living at his place. Q. And what was her involvement with Jean-Luc and/or Jeffrey Epstein? A. She was working at Karin's. Q. A. Q. She traveled on his airplane with him a lot? A. Yeah, because she's a personal friend of U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 47 of 83 EFTA_00074507 EFTA01248693 48 1 2 3 4 5 6 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Jeffrey. She was living in his place. Q. Anything else about him that A. No. Q. Or about her? A. No. Q. Inka Dury? A. No. Q. Any other people that you know that were living in that apartment at any time? A. No. Q. Other than the people that you named already, which are now A. I don't think lived there. Milli was living in one of the models' apartment that we rent. Because besides those two apartments, we rent apartments in New York for the girls. Q. Who decides whether the girls live in -- A. Jean-Luc. Q. Jean-Luc decides whether the girls live at III that's owned by Jeffrey Epstein or the other apartments that are rented by MC Squared? A. Yeah. Q. And how does he make that determination? A. He's the owner. U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 48 of 83 EFTA 00074508 EFTA01248694 49 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q• Oh, but, I mean, what are the qualifications? I mean, if he likes the girl or they're underage or they're -- A. No, if there were, like, good girls, girls that they could make money, they were living in an expensive place. If they were, like, regular girls, they were living in shitty places. Q. Epstein's A. Q. there? A. 4. is? Okay. But which one is Jeffrey place? An expensive place. Okay. So the better models were living Yes. , do you know who that A. No. Q. Did you ever meet with Naomi Campbell? A. No. Q. Did you know that she was friends with Jeffrey Epstein? A. No. Q. Did you ever meet Leslie Wexner? A. That's the woman that was involved with Mr. Epstein, no? Q. No. Leslie Wexner is the owner of U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 49 of 83 EFTA 00074509 EFTA01248695 50 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Victoria's Secret? A. No. No. He was a writer. Q. No. He's the owner of Victoria's Secret, The Limited, Abercrombie. A. No. No. Q. Did you ever hear anything about Jeffrey Epstein's relationships, who he was with: Male, female, a person's name? A. I knew, because Eve told me that he had a relationship with a woman that her father was very wealthy and that's how he started his own money. And if you tell me the name, maybe I can remember. But I don't -- Q. Ghislaine Maxwell? A. Yes. Q. And her father was Robert Maxwell? A. Yes. Q. Other than that relationship, are you aware of any other relationships of Jeffrey Epstein? A. No. G. How many times are you aware of Jean-Luc bringing underage girls to Jeffrey Epstein's home in Palm Beach? A. While I was there, when I was working U.S. Le al Su port CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 50 of 83 EFTA 00074510 EFTA01248696 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 with them, maybe -- maybe two, three times a The last year; you know, 2003, 2004, 2005. Q. And how would you know -- A. Not prior to that. Q. How would you know that Jean-Luc was taking underage girls to Jeffrey Epstein's house during those years? A. Because he was saying in the office: There is a party at Jeffrey's house; I'm taking the girls. And the girls, that they were in town, they were, like, underage girls. Q. We are still talking about 14, 15? A. Sixteen, yeah. Q. Sixteen, at the oldest? A. Yes. And they were going, the other girls, too, but he -- he personally was taking the little ones. Because the other ones, they could go in their own cars or whatever, you know, with their boyfriends. Q. Did you ever say anything to him about taking underage girls to Jeffrey Epstein's house? A. You know, as a mother I always told him that they were underage girls. And he was saying, oh, that I'm the father. Q. But you knew what was going on? year. U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 51 of 83 EFTA_000745 1 1 EFTA01248697 52 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. Not really. Not really. Not really that -- because I would never think that they were going to a party. And I didn't know Mr. Epstein in that scenario, you know. I know Jean-Luc was crazy or is crazy, but not stupid to be with those particular girls, because these girls were coming from a very good friend of him in Brazil. Q. Who is that? A. And he didn't -- I don't remember her name The mother agent of these four girls. I gave it to you before. I don't remember her name. It's a black woman. Q. It's not Cache? A. No. What's her name? Q• Because I have that part of the report right here, stating that Brunel had a connection with a young Brazilian woman but I don't have a name for that person. A. No. He was having a connection with a woman in Brazil that she was giving him prostitutes when he needed it. Q. The connection woman in Brazil was giving Jean-Luc prostitutes? A. Real prostitutes when he needed it. Q. How old were these prostitutes? U.S. Le al Su ort CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 52 of 83 EFTA 00074512 EFTA01248698 53 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. I don't know. I don't know because I was never in Brazil with him or nothing like that. Q. In Brazil? A. In Brazil. That was in Brazil. Q. Was Jeffrey Epstein involved in these -- A. Jeffrey Epstein was going to Brazil because he has one or two clients that they're from there. So they were going, they were meeting there and everything like that. Q. So you know of at least occasions where Jeffrey Epstein and Jean-Luc were in Brazil -- A. Yes. Q. -- and there was a particular person that would provide prostitutes for them? A. Yeah, because one time I know because Jean-Luc say it to me openly. Q. What did he say? A. That that woman was giving him, not models; they were prostitutes. Q. In my notes it says underage prostitutes. Is that something that -- A. Yeah, maybe. They were underage girls. Like, 16, 17, 18. Q. Ms. Vasquez stated, tell me if you agree with this, that Brunel would have her prepare a U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 53 of 83 EFTA 00074513 EFTA01248699 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 list on a weekly basis that covered changing out or replacing the girls staying in Epstein's apartment and providing them with living expenses, as well. And then it goes on, saying that he charged them rent? A. Yeah, yeah. He was the one who said who stays in what apartment and -- actually, what he said is, like, A, B, C, stays in Jeffrey's apartment. So that was the order. That's it. So the rest, Eve was supposed to put in whatever she wanted. Q. The notes indicate that you -- you were talking about being a 14 years old, that lived in Epstein's apartment? A. No. I never said that. Q. You weren't there then? A. No. I never said that. So whoever wrote that, I was never -- Q. This is written off typing notes because obviously we didn't have a reporter to get it down. So that's why I wanted to get her here so that we know exactly what your story is. It would make it easier. A. I heard of that girl. And I remember clearly that it was a problem with her visa. And U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 54 of 83 EFTA 00074514 EFTA01248700 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 that's why she -- I remember there was a -- end of the year and I was with Eve in New York and she was, like, really upset because they were, like, mistreating her because of that; the fact that they were blaming her for the papers, doing it incorrectly. And then Eve told me, you know, that girl never work, she was never a model. She was living in his place but she disappear. So she actually never even worked as a model. Q. A. Yeah. Q. And that's just something Eve knows because Eve was there? A. Yes. Q. All right. Do you know where Eve works now? • • • Q. Has she spoken with the F.B.I.? A. I don't know. Q. Have you been contacted by the F.B.I. or any government agency related to Jeffrey Epstein? A. F.B.I.? U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-00I Page 55 of 83 EFTA 00074515 EFTA01248701 Q. A. Q. A. The F.B.I. Yes. When was that? In 2008. Q. A. Q. 2008? Yes. And where did you meet with them? A. In my office at Q. At 10 11 A. Yeah. 12 Q. So do you still see Sergio? 13 A. I spoke with him sometimes; once in a 14 while. 15 Q. Did Sergio have to speak with the 16 F.B.I., as well? 17 A. I don't know. 18 Q. Do you know of anybody else that spoke 19 with the F.B.I. about Jeffrey Epstein? 20 A. I don't know. I don't think Eva spoke 21 with him -- with them. I don't know. 22 Q• And what did you tell the F.B.I.? 23 A. I told them everything that I -- the 24 same thing that I knew. At that time I even had 25 maybe more information. I gave everything from U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 56 of 83 EFTA 00074516 EFTA01248702 57 Amanda and everything like that. But the lady -- Q. S A. Yeah, ME. That was her name. She was, like -- I told her, you have to go -- go to Immigration. I say, go visit over there. And when I call her once she told me: You know what? I need -- I need fact. I need proof, I need girls. 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 I say, well, I'm giving you the tools that I have. There is nothing else that I can -- I cannot create something because I don't create a story. I tell you what it is. This is the fact. You go and you can use this to also do something else. But if your point is, you know, minor accusations, like underage girls being with him in the bed, I'm not going to say anything because I don't know. I wasn't there. I don't know. What I heard, my ears heard, you heard, she heard, whatever. Q. From Jean-Luc is the only person you heard it? A. Yeah. Q. Or Evelyn? A. Yes. That's it. Q. Who probably heard it from Jean-Luc? U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 57 of 83 EFTA 00074517 EFTA01248703 58 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. And who probably heard it from Jeffrey's office. I don't know. Q. Okay. But in terms of things that happened at Jeffrey Epstein's house or homes around the country, you don't know? A. Nothing. We have never been involved with that gentleman or his own things. Never. Q. It was only a relationship with Jean-Luc? A. For the office. That started 2003. That's when he -- that's when he actually gets involved. MR. EDWARDS: All right. I believe I'm done. Hold on a second. BY MR. EDWARDS: Q. When Jeffrey Epstein was in jail, did you know of Jean-Luc going to see him regularly? A. No. Q. Did you even know that he went to jail? A. Yeah. Q. I mean, at some point in time, but while he was in jail, did you know for any other reason other than newspapers that he was there? A. No. Q. Have you ever heard of this guy, Joe U.S. Legal Su port CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 58 of 83 EFTA 00074518 EFTA01248704 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 9 to 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Pagano (phonetic)? A. No. Q. Larry Vasasky (phonetic), do you know the pilot? A. No. With his personal things, we never -- as far as I know, me personally, never. Q. Yeah, no, I'm only asking you about people who were on flights with Jeffrey Epstein and Jean-Luc. So that's why I was thinking that maybe Jean-Luc would say who was on that flight. A. No, because I know one time I know he came in his plane and he forgot Gucci pants in his airplane. So we had to go to the airport to pick up the pants. But I had to wait outside and somebody went inside to pick up the pants. Q. (phonetic); do you know who that is? A. No. Q. Was there a Colombian girl, 13 years old, approximately, being protected by Jean-Luc? A. Colombian girl? Q. That's all the information that I have. No? A. No. Q• Who else would process the visas for the U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 59 of 83 EFTA 00074519 EFTA01248705 60 underage girls? A. At that time, it was Evelyn Valenzuela in New York. And whenever she was not able to do it, she hired an attorney. I don't know the name of the attorney in New York. And in Miami the person who was doing everything for visas was Luis Font. Q. Who are the people that -- that are -- 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 you know most of Jean-Luc's friends. Who are the people who dislike Jean-Luc? Who are the people we should talk to about they know him, they're familiar with him, but they're going to tell us -- A. Talk to Khalid. Q. Khalid? A. Yeah, talk to Khalid. Talk to Amanda. Q. You don't know how to track Khalid down right now? A. Amanda can give you the information of Khalid. Q. Amanda Grant? A. Yes. And I'm going to give you a letter -- I'll send you an e-mail of Amanda's telephone number. I go into my Facebook and I ask her. Q. Okay. U.S. Le al Su ort CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 60 of 83 EFTA_00074520 EFTA01248706 61 1 2 3 4 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. And who else? Who else? Talk to Elit. There is -- there is a lot of people in New York. But you ask Eve. Ask Eve. She can give you the names. I don't know the names exactly. I gave Conchita a name. And I thought that this woman was really upset with him. But when she call her, it was, like, the girl was talking too much flowers about him. So it's, you know -- Q. So you never know? A. Yeah. You never know. That is true. You never know. Five thousand dollars in Brazil is a lot of money. You know, you can buy a house. Q. So you can also buy somebody to be quiet? A. Money talks. That's what they doing all the time. Q. Do you know of Epstein paying anybody off during this whole litigation? A. If I know, I don't know. But I can say that, yes, because if it wasn't Jeffrey Epstein, if it would be Juan Perez, believe me, Juan Perez would be put in jail forever and ever. Q. Who? A. I'm giving you a name. Q. Oh, right. Right. U.S. Le al Su ort CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 61 of 83 EFTA 00074521 EFTA01248707 62 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. Because he's Jeffrey Epstein and he has all the money he has, he could shut up everybody. But if it would have been Juan Perez in the same situation, Juan Perez would be right now all his life in jail. Q. But do you know of any people that Jeffrey Epstein had paid during the civil litigation -- A. I don't know. Q. -- to not talk or to go away? A. I don't know. Or -- I mean, I'm sort of surprised that we haven't heard more from the models who were in New York, didn't make it as models and were only up there in the apartments for Jeffrey Epstein or Jean-Luc. A. Because not all the models, even if they are underage, they agree to do whatever they want. You know, like, in my case, I was -- when I was with the girls and I was talking to the girls, I always said, you know, like, you are going to do a job. You're not being hired to do nothing else. You work for nine to five. Even if you go to do a three-day in San Francisco and the owner of this company wants to ask you something, it's up to U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 62 of 83 EFTA 00074522 EFTA01248708 63 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 you. You're hired to do your job. After that, we have no control. You know, they were -- there were girls that they were going to do jobs of 100,000, $200,000. And they were coming, they're real upset, that they never wanted to work again with those people, even though they were paying. Because they were, like, molesting. No way; I'm here to work. That's it. Q. Who were those people? A. For example, there is a girl, a Brazilian girl, what's her name? She did a job in San Francisco. And the guy wanted to -- Q. Do you know her last name? A. No. No. I don't remember And the guy wanted to take her out in his yacht. And she said, no, I'm going back to my hotel. I'm here to do my shooting from nine to five and that's it. And the guy didn't want to shoot her that next day and he return her in a private plane. But we had to find for her money because she had a three-day shooting for $15,000 for each day or $20,000 each day. And because she didn't want to go with him in the boat, he didn't want to have her anymore. U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 63 of 83 EFTA_00074523 EFTA01248709 64 1 2 3 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 But my contract was for three days. That's not my problem. Q. Who were some of the other people that you found out later were trying to molest the girls? A. No; I found out because I had a very good relation with called to complain and she want all her money. If not, we are suing them. So I had to call them: You know, either you pay or we sue you for this. So they pay. But with the other girls, I would always say, you are going to do this job, we're responsible to pay you for the job. Whatever you want to do after is not our concern. That is up to you. You're already old enough to do what you're going to do. So that's why I believe most of the models are not saying anything because what they going to do? You know, like, they were not stupid. Q. I'm more concerned with the girls who were staying at the apartments. A. You can get all that information from Eve. Eve has all of that. Because Eve was U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-00I Page 64 of 83 EFTA 00074524 EFTA01248710 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 actually the one who was buying everything for that place and things like that. She -- you know, if she has all that information, she will give it to you. Q. A. Q. A. Q • She would have the first and last names? Everything. And lists and everything? Everything. Okay. So she seems like the right person to talk to? A. Yes. You know, Eve will give you details on everything that has to be with New York. Everything related to New York, Eve will give it to you. Q. Other than that, your recommendation is to talk to Khalid? A. Talk to Khalid. Talk to Amanda. Q. Amanda Grant? A. Amanda will tell you a lot of things. Q. And she is here? A. She's in Miami. Yeah, she's in Miami. Q. If I find , will she talk? A. You can try. Q. I mean, she is obviously someone who U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-00I Page 65 of 83 EFTA_00074525 EFTA01248711 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 knows, right? A. Yeah, you can try. Q. I mean, you know her as a person. A. Yes. Q. So is she somebody who seems like would -- A. If you start saying that she can make a lot of money, she will talk. That's it. That's the only way you're going to get what you want. Q. That's the only reason why anybody is going to talk? A. Yeah. You have to start -- if you don't start with that, nobody is going to open their mouth. Why? For what? They have to know that if they're going to open their mouth, they're going to get something for their words. If everybody start knowing that they will be able to make money, you're not going to have one; you're going to have hundreds. You know, if -- if -- talk to Eve. Ask Eve. And, you know, give me a call later. And if you want, give you the name of people in Brazil that you're going to call and start -- if you start saying, look, if you cooperate and you tell me everything you know because, you know, you will be able to make U.S. Le al Sup ort CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 66 of 83 EFTA 00074526 EFTA01248712 67 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 2:3 24 25 $50 million, $20 million, how much you want, let's find it. If they don't get anything like that, they're not going to do anything. They're not going to move a pencil. Because he goes with $5,000 and they're happy. Q. Right. A. They're happy. Q. Do you know of that happening already? A. Yeah. I can say with -- with this woman, that is probably with That woman hate him. Q. Hates Jeff Epstein? A. No, Jean-Luc. And now she's, like, the best friend. Jean-Luc never pay her $50,000 he owe her. And maybe, finally, he pay it and whatever, and now he has her in his pocket. Q. Who else does Jean-Luc stay with when he's here? A. I don't know -- he doesn't stay anymore in his apartment. He has a house now. He rents a house. So I know Q. In New York? A. No, in Miami. In New York, he's still in the place of Jeffrey Epstein. Q. Oh, okay. And down here he stays -- U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 67 of 83 EFTA_00074527 EFTA01248713 68 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. He used to live in MEM Q. Not anymore. Other than Jeff Fuller, that's the only real friend here? A. Other than Jeff Fuller. Jeff Fuller is his partner. You know, Corrado is another friend of him but I don't know his last name. He lives here in Miami. Q. How do you spell the first name? A. C-O-R-R-A-D-O. He's an Italian guy. That's another person he is very close, very close, friend of Jean-Luc since Europe. But if you don't go to him saying about the money, Corrado is not going to talk. And if you talk to Corrado about money, believe me, you're not going to have one; you're going to have 20 names and you're going to have 20 cases. Pero, if you don't go with your tool, which is going to be, okay, we can make money, we can do this, we can do that, they're not going to -- they're not go to sell his friend because they go out with him. Because when they go out with Jean-Luc, Jean-Luc pays for the bills, Jean-Luc pays for the gas, Jean-Luc pays for the vacation, Jean-Luc pays for this and that; even if U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 68 of 83 EFTA 00074528 EFTA01248714 69 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 he doesn't have any money to pay his payroll. Q. How much time does Jean-Luc spend in France? A. Very little. Very little. He's traveling all over the world. He's traveling all over the world. Q. And does he have money problems? A. Yeah. He doesn't have any money. Q. He doesn't? A. Jean-Luc doesn't have any money. Q. Where does he get the money from, then? A. From the company. First you have to pay Jean-Luc's credit cards and expenses before you pay anybody else. Q. That's the rules? A. Yeah. He's -- his American Express comes for $50,000. Of course, maybe 20 are tickets for the models, that they going to be reimbursed by the client, but 30,000 are his expenses. And he says, no, that's scouting. So we have to pay for that. Q. Okay. Who are the other scouts for MC Squared? A. Khalid was one. Jeff Fuller is another one. There is another woman, Nicolette. What's U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-00I Page 69 of 83 EFTA 00074529 EFTA01248715 70 1 2 3 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 her name? Something like that, is her name. I don't recall her name. She does the scouting, too. Q. Okay. A. In New York he had another scouter. A Jewish guy. But now he has the office of MC Squared in Tel Aviv. You can talk to him, too. I don't recall his name. But it's in the Web page of MC Squared. Q. Okay. Yeah, but he's Jean-Luc's friend, right? A. Yeah, but money talks. Q. Are there any of the other modeling agencies that are not friendly with MC Squared? Such as Ford Modeling Agency; is that someone? A. There is a guy in New York that you have to talk to. Q. Who is that? A. Uh, what his name? What his name? Jean-Luc sue him and then he sue him and he won, because Jean-Luc never paid two girls. And he was the -- the general manager of New York. And he opened his own agency and he did much better than Jean-Luc. Q. Do you remember the name of the agency? U.S. Legal Su port CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 70 of 83 EFTA_00074530 EFTA01248716 A. It's one -- can be One Model. Q. One? A. Yeah. It's Scott. That's his name, Scott and One Management. If there is a person that is going to talk everything for Jean-Luc, it's going to be him. 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 22 23 24 25 Q. And have you seen pictures of Jean-Luc and underage girls in any other context other than at model shoots, parties or whatever? A. Parties, yeah. There were pictures. He has pictures in his Facebook with the girls, hugging the girls or whatever. Q. Right. Any with Jeffrey Epstein? A. No. I don't think so. Q. Have you ever seen any pictures with Jeffrey Epstein and the models? A. The ones that he took at the party. Q. Do you know where those are? A. No. In Jean-Luc's computer. Q. Okay. Has Jean-Luc ever talked about any of the cases involving Jeffrey Epstein? A. Never. Q. To you or anybody else that you know? A. No, not that I know. MR. EDWARDS: All right. I'm going U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 71 of83 EFTA 00074531 EFTA01248717 72 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 to be in touch, maybe with the trial subpoena. Hopefully we can just tell you that it's off, if things are off. If it's on, then I'll let you know. But you can just call my office and I'll tell you. THE WITNESS: Okay. But I'm going to call you -- MR. EDWARDS: All of the Federal trial subpoenas tell you that you have to be there on that day. But you can just call me and I'll tell you whether you really have to be there or you don't. THE WITNESS: This is July 19. MR. EDWARDS: Right. THE WITNESS: This is for which one? MR. EDWARDS: It's just one of the very many Jane Does. THE WITNESS: And this is another subpoena? MR. EDWARDS: It's for trial. MR. FISTEN: It's just for trial. (Thereupon, the Sworn Statement was U.S. Le al Su ort CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 72 of 83 EFTA_00074532 EFTA01248718 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 concluded at 5:23 p.m.) U.S. Legal Support CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 73 of 83 EFTA_00074533 EFTA01248719 74 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 CERTIFICATE OF OATH STATE OF FLORIDA COUNTY OF MIAMI-DADE ) I, the undersigned authority, certify that MARITZA VASQUEZ personally appeared before me and was duly sworn. WITNESS my hand and official seal this 24th day of June, 2010. ELAINE CRANDALL Notary Public - State of Florida My Commission No. DD710458 Expires: December 28, 2011 U.S. Legal Su000rt CONFIDENTIAL 3501.214-001 Page 74 of 83 EFTA_00074534 EFTA01248720 75 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER STATE OF FLORIDA : SS. COUNTY OF MIAMI-DADE : I, ELAINE CRANDALL, Registered Professional Reporter and Notary Public in and for the State of Florida at Large, do hereby certify that I reported the Sworn Statement of MARITZA VASQUEZ, a witness called in the above-styled cause; and that the foregoing pages, numbered from 1 to 74, inclusive, constitute a true and correct transcription of my shorthand report of the deposition by said witness. I further certify that I am not an attorney or counsel of any of the parties, nor a relative or employee of any attorney or counsel connected with the action, nor financially interested in the action. WITNESS my hand and official seal in the City of Miami, County of Miami-Dade, State of Florida, this 24th day of June, 2010. ELAINE CRANDALL, R.P.R. 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