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Date of entry
03/02/2021
date of birth
was interviewed over video
conference. Present for this interview was Assistant United States
Attorney
, Detective
Special Agent
FBI Victim Specialis
(present with
in Colorado).
After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agents and the
nature of the interview,
provided the following information:
and
New York, New York, United States (, Other (Video
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tells
asked
if she knew anyone or wanted to give massages.
that she would do it.
said it was really easy. It was
a sales pitch that
gave. He said "you go to an old man's house, give
him a massage and he gives you money". This conversation happened at
aunt's house (
.
Present for this conversation was
and
two little brothers were around but not present for
the actual conversation.
was about 6 months older than
was also older than
was attending
at the time of this conversation.
was about 16 years
old when she started high school.
gave
a walk through of what would happen. He told her
would pick her up in a cab at her house then they would go to EPSTEIN's
house together. He said
would have to give an old man a massage, he
would then give her money and then she would go home. They would refer to
him as "Mr. Epstein" and say that he was a scientist.
agreed to go.
wanted out of her lifestyle. Her mindset was not where it should
have been at the time. Because of this,
does not believe that it was
all
or EPSTEIN's fault.
recalled that when she went there she would wait in his kitchen. She
never took a cab home; some car would drive her home. The car looked like
an undercover cop car, like a Cadillac or something.
remembered
going across the bridge and thinking "wow". She had never been to Palm
Beach and the houses were big.
The first time she went to EPSTEIN's house she took a yellow cab with
She recalled it was getting dark when they got there and the sky
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was a light blue. They went into the kitchen. There were big glass doors.
They were greeted by a young model who did not speak much English. She says
to wait in the kitchen. She asked
if she wanted anything to drink.
She brings
Fiji water. To this day
cannot stomach drinking
Fiji water. About 5-10 minutes later (GHISLAINE) MAXWELL comes downstairs
and introduces herself to
by her first name.
her first name or understand it.
later learns her
MAXWELL but refers to her as "The Lady". MAXWELL brought
upstairs.
would happen. As
walked up she realized
would be able to find her way out of there. It
through a bedroom and into a bathroom which was
MAXWELL basically said to
"you know what to do".
out of the closet which was kind of behind a door.
grabbed the towels and the lotions/oils.
everything up.
cannot pronounce
last name to be
and
just followed
lead as it was unknown to her what
she was not sure if she
was weird. She walked
basically a massage room.
She pulled a table
trained
watched her set
The bathroom had two showers along the back wall. They were divided
showers, stand up showers with glass doors.
does not remember a
toilet because she did not want to go there. There were two sinks and a big
glass mirror. There was a closet which had the massage table inside of it
and some form of seating.
When EPSTEIN walked in he was wearing a white towel. He did not introduce
himself. EPSTEIN was a pervert. He had a very distinct smell. They asked
to leave and wait downstairs. He asked about
background
and about her parents and where she came from.
thinks he was seeing
what boundaries he could push.
told him that she was poor and lived
in the ghetto her whole life. She says that she is not afraid of anyone or
anything. She is not afraid to talk about death. She tells him she always
had it rough as a kid.
sexual encounters in the pas
first meeting with EPSTEIN,
life. As time went on
t.
tells EPSTEIN that she had 2-3 non-agreeable
was honest with EPSTEIN. During the
tells him almost everything about her
would keep EPSTEIN up to date with her life.
Afterwards, EPSTEIN jumped in the shower.
walked to the kitchen to
meet
and waited for MAXWELL to bring them their money. MAXWELL
walked in with $600 ($300 each) all in $100 bills. MAXWELL said to
that EPSTEIN liked her and wanted her to come back. They get a ride home in
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a Cadillac by some white guy that worked for EPSTEIN. At the time neither
or
had driver's licenses.
was not old enough to have
one and she did not get one until she was 18.
does not give them her
phone number but received a phone call the next day.
thinks
gave them her number. The phone call was made to
mother's house
1
Her home address was
did not know who called her but it was a female who stated "Mr. Epstein
wants to see you again".
EPSTEIN seemed like he wanted to be a father figure. EPSTEIN made false
promises.
never discussed her age with EPSTEIN. She did tell him
that she dropped out of high school. EPSTEIN seemed disappointed with
about that. He tells her that if she goes back or gets her GED that
he would help her to get into college and get her massage degree.
would always meet EPSTEIN around 3:30-4 PM. She would average about
3-4 times on a good week but would at least go twice a week. She would not
go more than 4 times a week. This went on for about 2 4 years. She knows
it was 2 4 years
About 5-6 months into going to see EPSTEIN,
mother questioned her
about the situation. She tells
that as long as he was not touching
her that it was fine but she would have to pay her mother $50 every time she
went.
was paid $300 every time she went.
described MAXWELL as having short hair which was never blonde. She
had a weird tan, it was a red complexion that looked like her skin was hot.
Her face was always red and she had rosy cheeks. MAXWELL was younger at the
time, maybe in her 30's. She was older than
. MAXWELL was very
skinny.
lawyer for about the past 13 years is
(Agent note: Not all subject matter was covered during the course of this
interview.]
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