FBI FD-302 — Mother's Account: New Mexico Ranch

FD-302 (Rev. 5-8-101 -: of 4 - FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Dmcoremm ::/:0/2020 , daLe of birth was interviewed over video conference L•y AUSA AUSA AUSA Special Agent and Detective After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agents and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: is currently living in Little Rock Arkansas which she moved to about a year ago. She is currently working from. home. The company she is working for she has worked for about 30 years. In the past she has lived in Kentucky and Arizona. ( first heard of JEFFREY EPSTEIN through her daughter met him at her first art opening which led to her getting a job working for him- At soma point, recalled EPSTEIN would call her to chat about tier daughter EPSTEIN would talk up, telling her how good art was. At the time, was living in Scottsdale. was about 25 years old when she was living in New York City. Her other daughter ) was in high school at the time. recalled EPSTEIN referring to GHISLAINE MAXWELL. When they talked about trips, would ask "is your wife going" and EPSTEIN would say yes. thought EPSTEIN was in the stock market. EPSTEIN would say that they were planning a trip and they wanted to come with them to see the gallery; they also wanted help to purchase art. did not think these calls were add because she was an adult. These calls started around 1995. recalled asking if he was married and told her he was married to MAXWELL. This is why referred to MAXWELL as his wife and EPSTEIN acknowledged that. During that year, around Christmas, EPSTEIN called to ask if Investigation on 0 8 /2 4 /2 02 0 File # 5CD—NY-3C27571 Date drafted 08/2 4 /2020 by This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the poperty of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents am not to be distributed outside your agency. New York, New York, Untted States I, Other Illtdeo at conference)) EFTA02857845 ED-302a (Rev. 5-8-10) 50D-NY-3027571 ComthwdionofFD-302of (U) Interview of a 08/24/2020 ,page 2 of 4 could fly to New York. thought this may have been as a gift to so she could see her sister. was not really sure why he said it was like a gift; thought maybe because he was interested in helping students. Initially this was like a gift to does not remember much of the ticket, whether it was mailed to her or picked up at the airport. At the time, would fly a lot for work so this was not abnormal for her to be at the airport. went to New York and had a nice trip. No one told anything strange happened. did think that EPSTEIN taking them to the movies was weird. told about how they went to the movies. talked to EPSTEIN one or two more times after that. He would call her and talk about EPSTEIN then called about , talking about possibly going to college and international travel. They had a lengthy conversation about the trip to New Mexico. EPSTEIN told about 20 to 25 students were supposed to go. asked many questions. EPSTEIN told her that MAXWELL would be there hosting and watching the students. EPSTEIN said it would be a good experience for and talked about the international travel. again referred to MAXWELL as his wife. They talked about money and EPSTEIN said he would pay for everything. only talked to EPSTEIN about this. told EPSTEIN that could go and she would have to check with 1996 after had already went to New York. School. Shortly after their conversation This was in the spring of was a junior in High went to New Mexico. picked up from school on a Friday and drove her to the airport (Sky Harbor in Phoenix). thought took Southwest Airlines. stayed until Sunday. was with a friend of hers named STEVE IETMAR HEUSINGER from Germany. He told that this trip might be a bad idea because he knew of MAXWELL and her family was bad. When returned ana picked her up at the airport told that MAXWELL picked her up and dropped her off at the airport. looked upset and tired. She had new boots and said that MAXWELL bought them for her. told that she did not stay in the cabin EFTA02857846 FD-302a (Rev. 5-840) 50O-NY-3027571 Continuation ofFD-302 of ( U ) Interview of a 08/24/2020 page 3 of 4 and that she stayed in the house. When would try to ask her more questions about it cut her off and said she was really tired and did not want to talk about it. While was away did not speak with her the entire weekend. Around that time, did not really talk about the trip but did say they went horseback riding. She didn't volunteer any details about the trip. It wasn't until called from Ohio that she heard more about it. At the time, was in Thailand and was in Germany. After that trip never heard from EPSTEIN again. After Mexico. came back from THAILAND, asked her again about New said that she was not raped so she was not going to let it ruin her life and she was not going to talk about it. was always very upset when would bring it up so stopped mentioning it. trip to Thailand was paid for by EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN sponsored lots of students' trips. had to raise some money and had previously had to do this for travel with the church so it didn't seem weird. Both and told that EPSTEIN sponsored other students. called from Ohio hysterical. She was trying to get away and wanted to get back to New York. She was scared that they did something to was not worried about in Thailand at the time but did question her when she got back. At the time of the phone call from was in Germany with HEUSINGER. HEUSINGER said, "I told you MAXWELL is from a really bad family". Through the years would try to talk about it with but she would always say she was not going to let this ruin her life. HEUSINGER said that EPSTEIN and MAXWELL were too rich and powerful to fight and said that they could make disappear. In 2002 or 2003, VICKY WARD called and wanted to conduct an interview. told her she had to ask gave the ok to do an interview. spoke with WARD a few times over the phone. EFTA02857847 FD-302a (Rev. 5-8-ID) 50O- NY- 3027571 Continuation ofFD-302 of (U) Interview of a 08/24/2020 m g, 4 of 4 Nothing ended up happening with the article. was scared of MAXWELL so she moved many times to get away. The FBI talked with and and then nothing happened for several years. About 4 or 5 years ago, someone who worked for BRAD EDWARDS reached out. was in Kentucky at the time. STAN POTTINGER interviewed spoke with EDWARDS but never spoke with POTTINGER. did an interview with JIM HILL. Someone from The New York Times reached out to The Guardian reached out to to confirm that she spoke with WARD. Around last year, WARD reached out to to verify what year they spoke. spoke with NPR to verify that she spoke with WARD. never spoke with or met MAXWELL. EFTA02857848