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From: Lawrence Krauss < Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 5:05 PM To: jeffrey E. Subject: Re: URGENT: BuzzFeed News inquiry re allegations of sexual harassment by Lawrence Krauss I =ust had a long talk with Nancy about this. thanks. Lawrence M. Krauss Director, The Origins Project at ASU Co-Director,=Cosmology Initiative Foundation =rofessor School of =arth & S ace Ex loration and Ph sics Department Arizona=State Universi , P.O. Box 871404, Tem e, AZ > =nbsp; origins.asu.edu I twitter.com/lkraussl I krauss.faculty.asu.edu -Origins Project 10 Year =elebration- Be a part of something 10 years in the making! April 5-9th 2018 — Visit for more info =/div> On =eb 26, 2018, at 8:58 AM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote: and I am sorry but Nancys =ctions are just as i asked not to do. you =ant win this argument. you must understand =hat. you have lost. now =eep the damge to a minimum. you like to =in i understand. you cant here On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 11:53 AM, Lawrence Krauss =span dir="ltr" class="">< <mailto > =rote: ok.. I understand. My lawyer Adam said he would look =ver this stuff.. Here is what he said: "Your instincts are right. Let me study =11 the things you sent me. A lawsuit, which should not be entered into lightly, has =hree special advantages which are 1. It is the reaction someone =ho is truly innocent would do; 2. It stops behavior in its tracks under =dvice of counsel; and 3. The factual background section can be =iewed as a backgrounder for the media. " thoughts? EFTA_R1_01656804 EFTA02520208 <tel: Lawrence M. =rauss Director, The Origins Project at ASU Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative Foundation Professor School of Earth & Space =xploration and Physics Department Arizona State =niversity, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 Research Office: <tel: -> = Assistant (Jessica): Origins Office (Cynthia): <tel: origins.asu.edu I twitter.com/Ikraussl I krauss.faculty.asu.edu -Origins Project 10 Year Celebration- Be a part of something 10 years in the making! April 5-9th 2018 — Visit for more =nfo <https://www.originsl0year.com/> <image002.png> =/div> On Feb 26, 2018, at 8:49 AM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote: and i was right. in all instancees as if you in your =uttiness decide to file this lawsuit you keep banging on =bout, that sentence will carry the day On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 11:47 =M, Lawrence Krauss < <mailto > wrote: yes but =ou did tell me to write him those words.. but you are correct about =any things.. Lawrence M. =rauss Director, The Origins Project at ASU Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative Foundation Professor School of Earth & Space =xploration and Physics Department Arizona State =niversity, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 Research Office: I <=br class="">Assistant (Jessica): Origins Office (Cynthia): 2 EFTA_R1_01656805 EFTA02520209 origins.asu.edu 1 twitter.com/Ikraussl 1 krauss.faculty.asu.edu -Origins Project 10 Year Celebration- Be a part of something 10 years in =he making! April 5-9th 2018 — Visit for more info cimage002.png> On Feb =6, 2018, at 8:46 AM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote: you should wish in retrospect not to have responded at =11. On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 11:43 =M, Lawrence Krauss<l wrote: Thanks... I am not replying or egging them on.. I =ill speak to Nancy.. I wish in retrospect I had not sent him a =ote using the words "false with malicious intent" as =ou recommended.. I had a piece about that in my long response, =xplaining that I explained to him it was my language not the =nversity's, because their investigations showed the claim was =alse, and I argued that was malicious.. thank you. =nd of course I was never banned from those institutions.. I should make =hat clear in my long response as well.. I believe what you are =eeing is from the usual suspects, but indeed, probably not best to =onfront them any more directly. LMK Lawrence M. =rauss Director, The Origins Project at ASU Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative Foundation Professor School of Earth & Space =xploration and Physics Department Arizona State =niversity, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 Research Office <tel:i > 1 Assistant (Jessica): <tel: Origins =ffice (Cynthia) <tel:t > origins.asu.edu 1 twitter.comilkraussl 1 krauss.faculty.asu.edu -Origins Project 10 Year Celebration- Be a part of something 10 years in =he making! April 5-9th 2018 — Visit for more info 3 EFTA_R1_01656806 EFTA02520210 <image002.png> On Feb =6, 2018, at 8:37 AM, Jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote: LAWRENCE, Im not sure =f you have decided to commit reputational hari kari. its ok =ith me. but these consequences were discussed ad nauseum with =ou. if four or five ASU students decide together to complain = all bets off. . and you are egging them on. Melody =ensley "A" (who wishes to remain =nonymous, though I'm almost positive I know who it is) Nora (a student at Case Western) Melanie =homson (who witnessed him grab another woman's breast at a =keptic's conference in Australia, along with Michael Marshall =nd Jo Alabaster. Four former employees of Arizona =tate's Origins Project (anonymously). They include a 19 year =Id undergrad with two witnesses confirming her story of his creepy =ehavior. That's 13 separate people who either =ere the victims or the witnesses of their victimization. They come from =ultiple universities, three different countries, at a variety of events =ver a long period of time. As a result of some of those investigations, =wo institutions — Case Western Reserve University and the =erimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics — banned him from =heir campuses. And both Arizona State University and Australian =ational University said on the record that he lied about what their =nvestigation of those complaints concluded. This is =ot a he said/she said. It's a he said/13 other people said and =hree major educational institutions said. And those aren't the =nly ones. I know of several other people with similar stories who are =fraid to talk about them in public for fear of being attacked just like =he accusers are now being attacked. On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 11:33 =M, Lawrence Krauss < wrote: thanks.. I don't know about others I will =elay this to Nancy. Lawrence M. =rauss Director, The Origins Project at ASU Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative Foundation Professor School of Earth & Space =xploration and Physics Department 4 EFTA_R1_01656807 EFTA02520211 Arizona State =niversity, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287.1404 Research Office: <tel: > I Assistant =Jessica): <tel: > Origins Office (Cynthia): <tel: origins.asu.edu I twitter.com/Ikraussl I krauss.faculty.asu.edu -Origins Project 10 Year Celebration- Be a part of something 10 years in =he making! April 5-9th 2018 — Visit for more info <image002.png> On Feb =6, 2018, at 8:28 AM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote: LAWRENCE !! Since =he story broke late last week in Buzzfeed about the numerous =negations of sexual harassment and creepy behavior by Lawrence Krauss, =e've been treated to a litany of bad arguments in his defense, =any by his wife, who used a secondary =witter account to engage people on the issue. The =rguments are almost uniformly illogical and disingenuous. I propose you write an article debunking =lien abductions using the same argument. these people =idnt know one abother. there are 100 of them. why =hould they lie. . etc. TELL nancy to =top. you are getting into dangerous territory. = this is not a court of law.. facts DO NOT =ake a difference. . as you can see there are now some =thers who have been too afraid to come forward in the article. = you are self inflicting wrote: <tel krauss.faculty.asu.edu On Mon, =eb 26, 2018 at 10:48 AM, Lawrence Krauss < The =orrespondence from Ron Lindsey to Peter Aldhous. Lawrence M. =rauss Director, The =rigins Project at ASU Foundation Professor School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics =epartment Arizona State =niversity, P.O. Box =71404, Tempe, AZ =5287-1404 Research Office: <tel: > , Assistant =Jessica): Origins Office =Cynthia): <tel <mailto > =nbsp; origins.asu.edu <http://origins.asu.edu/> I twitter.com/Ikraussl 5 EFTA_R1_01656808 EFTA02520212 <DA866S43-7401.4A5A-8E50-FD32E33A50EC.png> Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: Ronald Lindsay < Date: Februa 26, 2018 at 7:17:07 AM =ST To: <mailto Subject: Fwd: Fwd: URGENT: =uzzFeed News inquiry re allegations of sexual harassment by Lawrence =rauss My correspondence with Aldhous. As usual, read from the =ottom up. Forwarded message - From: Ronald =indsay < Date: Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 7:21 AM Subject: Re: =wd: URGENT: BuzzFeed News inquiry re allegations of sexual harassment =y Lawrence Krauss To: Peter Aldhous < Dear=Mr. Aldhous, Adam Isaak resigned because I had a public spat with his =irlfriend, Rebecca Watson, who had issued a public call for CFI =mployees to quit. (That dispute is a whole other story, tangential to =our Krauss piece, so I will not get into it here.) Timing is important =ere. The email from Pat was in March. The dispute with Watson started =n mid-May, after which Adam stopped showing up for work. (He said he =as sick & then went on vacation, or vice versa). He then then left =ome time in June. If the Krauss matter "pushed [him) over the edge," =hen he was tenaciously hanging on to the ledge for a few =onths. The =mail from Pat Beauchamp was in the first person and Pat indicated she =as speaking for herself. (I found the email exchange last night; I will =orward it to you.) Adam had never been shy about expressing his =oncerns to me -- he asked for raises, complained about the hosts on the =odcast he was producing etc. The notion that he and Pat were working =ogether but that he decided he could not reveal his participation is =ifficult to credit. I will be traveling to my home this evening. Plan to reach m =ome by 7:45, but if I don't answer right away, please try a bit later. =y number is: <tel: > . Sincerely, R. =indsay 6 EFTA_R1_01656809 EFTA02520213 On Sun, =ec 10, 2017 at 10:45 PM, Peter Aldhous > wrote: Dear Mr. Lindsay, Thank you =or your response, which we will consider in detail. Shall we speak at =.45pm Eastern tomorrow? Do let me know what number to call. To answer your question, the CFI employee who resigned was =dam Isaak. He told us that he helped Patricia Beauchamp draft an email =o you outlining their concerns about inviting Lawrence Krauss on the =014 cruise. He explained that his resignation had a =roader context, relating to his concerns about sexism and online =arassment in the skeptical movement. But he said that CFI's continued =mbrace of Krauss, in the face of concerns expressed by staff, was what =pushed me over the edge." Sincerely, Peter Aldhous On 12/10/17 7:27 PM, Ronald Lindsay =rote: Dear Mr. =ldhous, Let me note a couple of =hings at the outset. First, I would be happy to speak to you regarding =he allegations in your email. You can reach me at my cell phone number, =hich is <tel: > . =owever, I am unavailable tomorrow (Monday) because of prior commitments =ntil approximately 7:45 PM. Next, you should =now that I'm not an employee of CFI nor do I have any authority =o speak on behalf of CFI. I'm writing to you from my personal =mail account in part to underscore that point. I do retain a CFI email =ddress in part as a courtesy to me and in part because it serves a =usiness purpose (for example, I still receive occasional emails =ddressed to the president of the organization). Turning to the substance of your allegations, first you =hould be aware that I take the issue of sexual harassment very =eriously. This is confirmed by the fact that after I was hired by CFI =s its in- house lawyer (a position I held prior to becoming president =nd CEO) I insisted that the organization adopt a comprehensive =ero-tolerance harassment policy covering workplace harassment. =oreover, during the time I was president and CEO we had three separate =tate trainings for the entire staff on sexual harassment issues. In =ddition, where necessary, we did not hesitate to expend significant =esources, including retaining outside investigators, to conduct =erious, detailed inquiries into harassment claims. One such inquiry =ost the organization over $40,000. Therefore, any suggestion that I do =ot personally take harassment claims seriously is amply disconfirmed by =y record. 7 EFTA_R1_01656810 EFTA02520214 Regarding the alleged =ncident on the 2011 cruise, the first I became aware of it was when Pat =eauchamp, CFI's business manager and the employee responsible =or cruise logistics, wrote to me in 2013 indicating she objected to =nviting Lawrence Krauss on our upcoming Galapagos cruise. I found this =trange, and I responded to her almost immediately asking the reasons =or her objection. She gave two reasons. The first was that Krauss did =ot pay sufficient attention to the guests on the 2011 cruise. I had =eard this concern from one guest myself; on the other hand, I also =eard from several guests that they thought Krauss's =resentations were excellent and a highlight of the cruise. Accordingly, = did not give this concern much weight. The second reason was that Krauss had allegedly asked a =emale guest on the cruise to join him and his partner, apparently for =ome sort of sexual activity (I cannot recall whether Krauss was engaged =r married or just seriously involved with his female companion at the =ime, although they were clearly romantically involved and seemed very =uch in love). This is the first I had heard of this proposition. No =omplaint by the guest or anyone else had been made to me at the time of =he cruise, although I was on the cruise and clearly visible throughout =he cruise. I asked Ms. Beauchamp for =ontact information for this guest. I did call the guest and she =ubstantially confirmed what Ms. Beauchamp had said. I apologized on =ehalf of the organization. The guest indicated although she was taken =back by Krauss's proposition at the time, she did not want to =ursue the matter further. I then got in contact with Krauss. Krauss =enied the allegation. In light of the guest's reluctance to =ursue the matter and Krauss's own denial and, importantly, =ecause between the time of the 2011 cruise and the Galapagos cruise we =ad instituted a policy regarding harassment at any CFI event, which covers not just =mployees, but speakers and attendees, I decided to go ahead with my =Ian and have Krauss as a speaker on the Galapagos cruise. Krauss was =ully aware of our harassment policy regarding CFI events because we had =ad a discussion about it. Therefore, I expected him to comply with that =olicy on the Galapagos cruise. As far as I know he did, because we =eceived no complaints about his conduct. Nor have we received any =omplaints about his conduct at other events. Let me just take a moment to highlight the 2012 policy, which =ou can find in full here, http://www.centerforinquiry.net/blogs/entry/cfis_new_policy_on_hostile_conduct_harassment_at_conferences/ along with the announcement I made =xplaining the rationale for the policy. This policy was, certainly at =ts time, arguably the strongest any nonprofit organization had =egarding conduct at its events. Again, this policy shows that any =uggestion that CFI, as an organization, or that I personally took a lax =ttitude regarding harassment is completely without factual =oundation. In your email you mentioned =hat one staffer resigned after I invited Krauss on the Galapagos =ruise. I'm not aware of any staffer resigning because of that. =f you give me a name I could comment on the reasons for the staffer =eaving. Ms. Beauchamp remained an employee of CFI (and went on the =alapagos cruise with Krauss). You mentioned =lso the comments that were made to me in March 2012 by Melody Hensley. =et me give you the background for that. CFI was holding an event prior =o the 2012 Reason Rally in DC. Richard Dawkins, Jessica Alquist, Jamie =askin, and Lawrence Krauss were scheduled to speak at the event. Melody =ensley was heavily involved in the planning for the event and in fact =as tapped to make introductions for the speakers, including Krauss. (At =he time she was in charge of the DC local branch.) During the planning =or the event she gave no indication whatsoever that she had any =esitation about introducing or dealing with Krauss. (I will forward you =ome email correspondence confirming this.) As I recall, Krauss's schedule resulted in his =fanned arrival being a little later than the others. As it turned out, =e was even further delayed. At some point when it became clear that =rauss was going to be late, Hensley turned to me and said, "I =now why Krauss isn't coming; he's embarrassed to see =e." I asked Hensley what she meant by this. She said Krauss had =ade a pass at her several years earlier and she had rebuffed him. I =sked for some details. She said she was in a hotel room with him (I =an't recall whether she said it was Krauss's hotel 8 EFTA_R1_01656811 EFTA02520215 =oom, but I think it was), and that Krauss tried to kiss her. She pushed =im away and said she wasn't interested. I asked if Krauss =ersisted; she said he did not. Thinking out loud, I believe I said =omething to the effect of 'well, if you want to make a =omplaint you probably can, although I'm not sure our policy at =hat time would cover that.' Ms. Hensley said she was not =nterested in making a formal complaint. Ms. Hensley's statement that I "responded to =er with silence" is absolutely false and I categorically and =nqualifiedly deny it. We talked about her concern, as indicated. Ms. =ensley's recall must be failing her. Given the passage of time (six years), the fact that Hensley =id not want to pursue the matter, the fact that Krauss desisted when =ensley indicated she wasn't interested, the fact that Hensley =idn't even seem very bothered by the incident (as indicated, =he had expressed no hesitation in seeing Krauss), and the fact that we =ad no policy covering conduct by nonemployees back in 2006 (in fact, =FI's zero-tolerance policy covering employees themselves was =ot implemented until 2007, I believe -- I was just hired as the =ttorney in July 2006), I decided not to do any further about this =articular incident. However, the incident, along with observations I =eard at the Women in Secularism conference which we held later in the =pring of 2012 (observations which did not mention Krauss, but rather some =peakers at non-CFI events), was a factor in my thinking about the need =or a policy covering conduct by invited speakers and guests at CFI =onferences. Ms. Hensley made no other =omplaint to me about Krauss, nor did she ever express to me her belief =hat we should not invite Krauss to events. In closing, let me state that any accusations stating that I =eglected to take harassment complaints seriously are false. =urthermore, I would regard them as a malicious attack on my character =nd my professional reputation. Sincerely, Ronald A. =indsay Forwarded message From: Ronald =indsay < Date: Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 9:15 PM Subject: =wd: URGENT: BuzzFeed News inquiry re allegations of sexual harassment =y Lawrence Krauss To: =orwarded messa e From: Peter =Idhous < Date: Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 8:13 PM Subject: =RGENT: BuzzFeed News inquiry re allegations of sexual harassment by =awrence Krauss To: 9 EFTA_R1_01656812 EFTA02520216 Mr. =indsay: I'm a reporter =or BuzzFeed News who has been investigating sexual misconduct =negations against Lawrence Krauss. The story concerns =rauss's actions towards students while a professor of physics =t Case Western Reserve University, as well as his conduct in =on-academic settings as a prominent figure in the skeptics movement. I =m reporting this story along with two of my colleagues on the science =esk, Azeen Ghorayshi and Virginia Hughes. Our story is about =everal allegations of sexual misconduct dating from 2006 to 2016. Our =eporting also goes into how the various institutions Krauss has been =ffiliated with — Case Western, Arizona State University, the =ustralian National University, the New College of the Humanities and =he Center for Inquiry, for which you formerly served as president —=have handled complaints and concerns about his behavior during this =ime. Our story is corroborated =y emails, university documents, official complaints, testimony from =ictims and witnesses, and interviews with more than two dozen of =rauss's current and former academic colleagues, students, and =eers in the skeptics movement. I am writing to you now =ecause you are personally named in the story, and because you had =xecutive responsibility for CFI's actions during the time of =ome of the alleged incidents. I wanted to offer you the =pportunity to comment and/or respond to the main facts we plan to =ublish regarding your involvement as the former head of CFI during this =ime. If you wish to comment on any of these findings, we need to hear =rom you as soon as possible. We are planning on =ublishing our story Tuesday morning US Eastern Time. Based on our reporting so =ar, this is what we plan to publish that concerns you: One incident involving =rauss allegedly occurred in May 2011 on a CFI =ruise. Attendees had paid several thousand dollars =o join a cultural tour of the Greek islands, featuring lectures from =cientists and writers, including Krauss. Krauss allegedly =ropositioned a female cruise-goer, who rejected an invitation to join =im and his female companion for sex in their cabin. =/span> No complaint was made, =ut the incident was reported to a CFI staffer at the time. =/span> CFI's leadership =ontinued to embrace Krauss, making =im an honorary member of =ts board of directors in December 2011. But at least two staffers =ere sufficiently concerned about reports of Krauss's behavior =hat they urged you not to invite him on a 2014 cruise of the Galapagos =slands. 10 EFTA_R1_01656813 EFTA02520217 In June 2013, after you =ejected their advice and invited him on the cruise, one of those =taffers resigned. At a conference in March =012, another woman, who at that point was also an employee of CFI, told =ou about an incident in 2006 in which Krauss forcibly kissed and groped =er in a hotel room. According to this woman, after she told you about =his in person, you responded to her with silence. The woman later told two =ther employees in CFI's management about the incident, and =xpressed her discomfort at having Krauss continue to speak at =vents. • CFI continued to book =rauss as a speaker at its events. Again, if you wish to =omment on or clarify any of these points, please get in touch with us =s soon as possible. If I do not respond immediately it is because I am =n another call, so please leave the best phone number to reach =ou. Thanks, Peter Aldhous =/span> Peter =ldhous, PhD Science reporter I BuzzFeed News tel: <tel cell: <te <mailto @paldhous www.peteraldhous.com Ronald A. 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