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From: Sent: To: Subject: Lawrence Krauss < Monday, February 26, 2018 4:53 PM jeffrey E. Re: URGENT: BuzzFeed News inquiry re allegations of sexual harassment by Lawrence Krauss ok.. = understand. My lawyer Adam said he would look over this stuff.. =nbsp;Here is what he said: "Your instincts are right. Let me study all the things you =ent me. A =awsuit, which should not be entered into lightly, has three special =dvantages which are 1. It is the reaction someone who is truly =nnocent would do; 2. It stops behavior in its tracks under advice of =ounsel; and 3. The factual background section can be viewed as a =ackgrounder for the media. " thoughts? Lawrence M. Krauss Director, The Origins Project at ASU Co-Director,=Cosmology Initiative Foundation =rofessor School of =arth & Space Exploration and 85287-1404 Research Office: <mailto origins.asu.edu I twitter.com/Ikraussl Physics Department Arizona=State University, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ I Assistant (Jessica): = Origins Office (Cynthia): = > =nbsp; krauss.faculty.asu.edu -Origins Project 10 Year =elebration- Be a part of something 10 years in the making! April 5-9th 2018 — Visit for more info =/div> On =eb 26, 2018, at 8:49 AM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote: and=i was right. in all instancees as if you in your nuttiness decide =o file this lawsuit you keep banging on about, that =entence will carry the day wrote: On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 11:47 AM, =awrence Krauss < <mailto yes but =ou did tell me to write him those words.. but you are correct about =any things.. > > EFTA_R1_01656999 EFTA02520315 Lawrence M. Krauss Director, The =rigins Project at ASU Co-Director, Cosmology =nitiative Foundation Professor School of Earth & Space =xploration and Physics Department Arizona State =niversity, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 Research Office: I Assistant =Jessica): Origins Office (Cynthia): <mailto origins.asu.edu I twitter.com/Ikraussl I krauss.faculty.asu.edu -Origins Project =0 Year Celebration- Be a part of something 10 years in the making! April 5-9th 2018 — Visit for more =nfo <https://www.originsl0year.com/> <image002.png> </=iv> On Feb 26, 2018, at 8:46 AM, jeffrey E. [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]» wrote: you should wish in retrospect not to have responded at =11. On Mon, =eb 26, 2018 at 11:43 AM, Lawrence Krauss < <mailto > wrote: Thanks... I am not replying =r egging them on.. I will speak to Nancy.. I wish in retrospect I =ad not sent him a note using the words "false with malicious =ntent" as you recommended.. I had a piece about that in =y long response, explaining that I explained to him it was my language =ot the Unversity's, because their investigations showed the =laim was false, and I argued that was malicious.. =nbsp; thank you. =nbsp; And of course I was never banned from those institutions.. = should make that clear in my long response as well.. =nbsp; I =elieve what you are seeing is from the usual suspects, but indeed, =robably not best to confront them any more directly. LMK 2 EFTA_R1_01657000 EFTA02520316 Lawrence M. Krauss Director, The =rigins Project at ASU Co-Director, Cosmology =nitiative Foundation Professor School of Earth & Space =xploration and Physics Department Arizona State =niversity, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 Research Office: =wbr class="">Assistant (Jessica): Origins Office (Cynthia): <mailto origins.asu.edu I twitter.com/Ikraussl I krauss.faculty.asu.edu -Origins Project =0 Year Celebration- Be a part of something 10 years in the making! April 5-9th 2018 — Visit for more =nfo <https://www.originsl0year.com/> <image002.png> On Feb =6, 2018, at 8:37 AM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote: LAWRENCE, Im not sure if you have =ecided to commit reputational hari kari. its ok with =e. but these consequences were discussed ad nauseum with =ou. if four or five ASU students decide together to complain = all bets off. . and you are egging them on. Melody =ensley "A" (who wishes to remain =nonymous, though I'm almost positive I know who it is) Nora (a student at Case Western) Melanie =homson (who witnessed him grab another woman's breast at a =keptic's conference in Australia, along with Michael Marshall =nd Jo Alabaster. Four former employees of Arizona =tate's Origins Project (anonymously). They include a 19 year =ld undergrad with two witnesses confirming her story of his creepy =ehavior. That's 13 separate people who either =ere the victims or the witnesses of their victimization. They come from =ultiple universities, three different countries, at a variety of events =ver a long period of time. As a result of some of those investigations, =wo institutions — Case Western Reserve University and the =erimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics — banned him from =heir campuses. And both Arizona State University and Australian =ational University said on the record that he lied about what their =nvestigation of those complaints concluded. This is =ot a he said/she said. It's a he said/13 other people said and =hree major educational institutions said. And those aren't the =nly ones. I know of several other people with similar stories who are =fraid to talk about them in public for fear of being attacked just like =he accusers are now being attacked. 3 EFTA_R1_01657001 EFTA02520317 On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 11:33 AM, =awrence Krauss<I >wrote: thanks.. I =on't know about others I will relay this to =ancy. Lawrence M. Krauss Director, The =rigins Project at ASU Co-Director, Cosmology =nitiative Foundation Professor School of Earth & Space =xploration and Physics Department Arizona State =niversity, P.O. B:18:714O4, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 Research Office > I Assistant (Jessica): <tel: Origins =ffice (Cynthia) <tel <mailto > origins.asu.edu I twitter.com/lkraussl I krauss.faculty.asu.edu -Origins Project =0 Year Celebration- Be a part of something 10 years in the making! April 5-9th 2018 — Visit for more =nfo <https://www.originsl0year.com/> <image002.png> On Feb =6, 2018, at 8:28 AM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote: LAWRENCE !! Since the story =roke late last week in Buzzfeed about the numerous allegations of sexual harassment and creepy behavior by Lawrence Krauss, we've =een treated to a litany of bad arguments in his defense, many by his =ife, who used asecondary Twitter =ccount <https://twitter.com/NancyMDahlPhD/With_replies> to engage people on the issue. The arguments are almost =niformly illogical and disingenuous. l=propose you write an article debunking alien abductions using the =ame argument. these people didnt know one abother. =here are 100 of them. why should they lie. . =tc. TELL nancy to stop. you are getting =nto dangerous territory. . this is not a court of =aw.. facts DO NOT make a difference. . =s you can see there are now some others who have been too afraid to =ome forward in the article. . you are self =nflicting On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 10:48 AM, =awrence Krauss< wrote: The =orrespondence from Ron Lindsey to Peter Aldhous. 4 EFTA_R1_01657002 EFTA02520318 Lawrence M. Krauss Director, The Origins Project =t ASU Foundation =rofessor <tel krauss.faculty.asu.edu <mailto harassment by Lawrence Krauss harassment =y Lawrence Krauss School of Earth & Space =xploration and Physics Department Arizona =tate University, P.O. Box =71404, Tempe, AZ =5287-1404 Research Office > • Assistant =Jessica): Origins =ffice (Cynthia): <tel <mailto > =nbsp; origins.asu.edu <http://origins.asu.edu/> I twitter.comilkraussl I <DA866543-7401-4ASA-8ES0-FD32E33AS0EC.png> Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: Ronald Lindsay < Date: February 26, 2018 at 7:17:07 AM PST To <mailto Subject: Fwd: Fwd: URGENT: BuzzFeed News inquiry re =llegations of sexual My correspondence =ith Aldhous. As usual, read from the bottom up. Forwarded message From: Ronald Lindsay< Date: Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 7:21 AM Subject: Re: =wd: URGENT: BuzzFeed News inquiry re allegations of sexual To: Peter Aldhous < Dear=Mr. Aldhous, Adam Isaak resigned because I had a public spat with his =irlfriend, Rebecca Watson, who had issued a public call for CFI =mployees to quit. (That dispute is a whole other story, tangential to =our Krauss piece, so I will not get into it here.) 5 EFTA_R1_01657003 EFTA02520319 Timing is important =ere. The email from Pat was in March. The dispute with Watson started =n mid-May, after which Adam stopped showing up for work. (He said he =as sick & then went on vacation, or vice versa). He then then left =ome time in June. If the Krauss matter "pushed [him) over the edge," =hen he was tenaciously hanging on to the ledge for a few =onths. The =mail from Pat Beauchamp was in the first person and Pat indicated she =as speaking for herself. (I found the email exchange last night; I will =orward it to you.) Adam had never been shy about expressing his =oncerns to me -- he asked for raises, complained about the hosts on the =odcast he was producing etc. The notion that he and Pat were working =ogether but that he decided he could not reveal his participation is =ifficult to credit. I will be traveling to my home this evening. Plan to reach my =ome by 7:45, but if I don't answer right away, please try a bit later. =y number is <tel: > . Sincerely, R. =indsay On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 10:45 PM, Peter =Idhous< wrote: Dear Mr. Lindsay, Thank you =or your response, which we will consider in detail. Shall we speak at =.45pm Eastern tomorrow? Do let me know what number to call. To answer your question, the CFI employee who resigned was =dam Isaak. He told us that he helped Patricia Beauchamp draft an email =o you outlining their concerns about inviting Lawrence Krauss on the =014 cruise. He explained that his resignation had a =roader context, relating to his concerns about sexism and online =arassment in the skeptical movement. But he said that CFI's continued =mbrace of Krauss, in the face of concerns expressed by staff, was what =pushed me over the edge." Sincerely, Peter Aldhous On 12/10/17 7:27 PM, Ronald Lindsay wrote: Dear Mr. =Idhous, Let me note a couple of =hings at the outset. First, I would be happy to speak to you regarding =he allegations in your email. You can reach me at my cell phone number, =hich is - 6 EFTA_R1_01657004 EFTA02520320 <tel:i > . However, I am unavailable =omorrow (Monday) because of prior commitments until approximately 7:45 =M. Next, you should know that ='m not an employee of CFI nor do I have any authority to speak =n behalf of CFI. I'm writing to you from my personal email =ccount in part to underscore that point. I do retain a CFI email =ddress in part as a courtesy to me and in part because it serves a =usiness purpose (for example, I still receive occasional emails =ddressed to the president of the organization). Turning to the substance of your allegations, first you =hould be aware that I take the issue of sexual harassment very =eriously. This is confirmed by the fact that after I was hired by CFI =s its in- house lawyer (a position I held prior to becoming president =nd CEO) I insisted that the organization adopt a comprehensive =ero-tolerance harassment policy covering workplace harassment. =oreover, during the time I was president and CEO we had three separate =tate trainings for the entire staff on sexual harassment issues. In =ddition, where necessary, we did not hesitate to expend significant =esources, including retaining outside investigators, to conduct =erious, detailed inquiries into harassment claims. One such inquiry =ost the organization over $40,000. Therefore, any suggestion that I do =ot personally take harassment claims seriously is amply disconfirmed by =y record. Regarding the alleged =ncident on the 2011 cruise, the first I became aware of it was when Pat =eauchamp, CFI's business manager and the employee responsible =or cruise logistics, wrote to me in 2013 indicating she objected to =nviting Lawrence Krauss on our upcoming Galapagos cruise. I found this =trange, and I responded to her almost immediately asking the reasons =or her objection. She gave two reasons. The first was that Krauss did =ot pay sufficient attention to the guests on the 2011 cruise. I had =eard this concern from one guest myself; on the other hand, I also =eard from several guests that they thought Krauss's =resentations were excellent and a highlight of the cruise. Accordingly, = did not give this concern much weight. The second reason was that =rauss had allegedly asked a female guest on the cruise to join him and =is partner, apparently for some sort of sexual activity (I cannot =ecall whether Krauss was engaged or married or just seriously involved =ith his female companion at the time, although they were clearly =omantically involved and seemed very much in love). This is the first I =ad heard of this proposition. No complaint by the guest or anyone else =ad been made to me at the time of the cruise, although I was on the =ruise and clearly visible throughout the cruise. I asked Ms. Beauchamp for contact information for this guest. = did call the guest and she substantially confirmed what Ms. Beauchamp =ad said. I apologized on behalf of the organization. The guest =ndicated although she was taken aback by Krauss's proposition =t the time, she did not want to pursue the matter further. I then got =n contact with Krauss. Krauss denied the allegation. In light of the =uest's reluctance to pursue the matter and Krauss's own =enial and, importantly, because between the time of the 2011 cruise and =he Galapagos cruise we had instituted a policy regarding harassment =tanyCFl event, which covers not just employees, but speakers =nd attendees, I decided to go ahead with my plan and have Krauss as a =peaker on the Galapagos cruise. Krauss was fully aware of our =arassment policy regarding CFI events because we had had a discussion =bout it. Therefore, I expected him to comply with that policy on the =alapagos cruise. As far as I know he did, because we received no =omplaints about his conduct. Nor have we received any complaints about =is conduct at other events. Let me just =ake a moment to highlight the 2012 policy, which you can find in full =ere, http://www.centerforinquiry.net/blogs/entry/cfis new_poliry on hostile conduit harassment at conferences/ along with the announcement I made explaining the =ationale for the policy. This policy was, certainly at its time, =rguably the strongest any nonprofit organization had regarding conduct =t its events. Again, this policy shows that any suggestion that CFI, as =n organization, or that I personally took a lax attitude regarding =arassment is completely without factual foundation. 7 EFTA_R1_01657005 EFTA02520321 In your email you mentioned that one staffer resigned after I =nvited Krauss on the Galapagos cruise. I'm not aware of any =taffer resigning because of that. If you give me a name I could comment =n the reasons for the staffer leaving. Ms. Beauchamp remained an =mployee of CFI (and went on the Galapagos cruise with =rauss). You mentioned also the =omments that were made to me in March 2012 by Melody Hensley. Let me =ive you the background for that. CFI was holding an event prior to the =012 Reason Rally in DC. Richard Dawkins, Jessica Alquist, Jamie Raskin, =nd Lawrence Krauss were scheduled to speak at the event. Melody Hensley =as heavily involved in the planning for the event and in fact was =apped to make introductions for the speakers, including Krauss. (At the =ime she was in charge of the DC local branch.) During the planning for =he event she gave no indication whatsoever that she had any hesitation =bout introducing or dealing with Krauss. (I will forward you some email =orrespondence confirming this.) As I recall, Krauss's=schedule resulted in his planned arrival being a little later than the =thers. As it turned out, he was even further delayed. At some point =hen it became clear that Krauss was going to be late, Hensley turned to =e and said, "I know why Krauss isn't coming; he's=embarrassed to see me." I asked Hensley what she meant by this. =he said Krauss had made a pass at her several years earlier and she had rebuffed him. I asked for some details. She said she was in a hotel room =ith him (I can't recall whether she said it was Krauss's =otel room, but I think it was), and that Krauss tried to kiss her. She =ushed him away and said she wasn't interested. I asked if =rauss persisted; she said he did not. Thinking out loud, I believe I =aid something to the effect of 'well, if you want to make a =omplaint you probably can, although I'm not sure our policy at =hat time would cover that.' Ms. Hensley said she was not =nterested in making a formal complaint. Ms. Hensley's statement that I "responded to =er with silence" is absolutely false and I categorically and =nqualifiedly deny it. We talked about her concern, as indicated. Ms. =ensley's recall must be failing her. Given the passage of time (six years), the fact that Hensley =id not want to pursue the matter, the fact that Krauss desisted when =ensley indicated she wasn't interested, the fact that Hensley =idn't even seem very bothered by the incident (as indicated, =he had expressed no hesitation in seeing Krauss), and the fact that we =ad no policy covering conduct by nonemployees back in 2006 (in fact, =FI's zero-tolerance policy covering employees themselves was =ot implemented until 2007, I believe -- I was just hired as the =ttorney in July 2006), I decided not to do any further about this =articular incident. However, the incident, along with observations I =eard at the Women in Secularism conference which we held later in the =pring of 2012 (observations which didnotmention Krauss, but rather some speakers at non-CFI =vents), was a factor in my thinking about the need for a policy =overing conduct by invited speakers and guests at CFI =onferences. Ms. Hensley made no other =omplaint to me about Krauss, nor did she ever express to me her belief =hat we should not invite Krauss to events. In closing, let me state that any accusations stating that I =eglected to take harassment complaints seriously are false. =urthermore, I would regard them as a malicious attack on my character =nd my professional reputation. Sincerely, Ronald A. =indsay Forwarded message 8 EFTA_R1_01657006 EFTA02520322 From: Ronald Lindsay Date: Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 9:15 PM Subject: =wd: URGENT: BuzzFeed News inquiry re allegations of sexual harassment =y Lawrence Krauss =awrence Krauss To <mailto =orwarded messa e From: Peter Aldhous< > Date: Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 8:13 PM Subject: =RGENT: BuzzFeed News inquiry re allegations of sexual harassment by To Mr. Lindsay: <mailto I'm a =eporter for BuzzFeed News who has been investigating sexual misconduct =negations against Lawrence Krauss. The story concerns =rauss's actions towards students while a professor of physics =t Case Western Reserve University, as well as his conduct in =on-academic settings as a prominent figure in the skeptics movement. I =m reporting this story along with two of my colleagues on the science =esk, Azeen Ghorayshi and Virginia Hughes. Our story is about =everal allegations of sexual misconduct dating from 2006 to 2016. Our reporting also goes into how the various institutions Krauss has been =ffiliated with — Case Western, Arizona State University, the =ustralian National University, the New College of the Humanities and =he Center for Inquiry, for which you formerly served as president —=have handled complaints and concerns about his behavior during this =ime. Our story is corroborated by emails, university =ocuments, official complaints, testimony from victims and witnesses, =nd interviews with more than two dozen of Krauss's current and =ormer academic colleagues, students, and peers in the skeptics =ovement. I am writing to you now because you are =ersonally named in the story, and because you had executive responsibility for CFI's actions during the time of some of the =lleged incidents. I wanted to offer you the opportunity to =omment and/or respond to the main facts we plan to publish regarding =our involvement as the former head of CFI during this time. If you wish =o comment on any of these findings, we need to hear from you as soon as =ossible. We are planning on =ublishing our story Tuesday morning US Eastern Time. Based on our =eporting so far, this is what we plan to publish that concerns =ou: 9 EFTA_R1_01657007 EFTA02520323 One incident involving Krauss =llegedly occurred in May 2011 on a CFI =ruise. Attendees had =/span>paid several thousand dollars to join a cultural =our of the Greek islands, featuring lectures from scientists and =riters, including Krauss. Krauss allegedly =ropositioned a female cruise-goer, who rejected an invitation to join =im and his female companion for sex in their cabin. =/span> No complaint was made, but =he incident was reported to a CFI staffer at the time. =/span> CFI's leadership =ontinued to embrace Krauss, making rim an honorary member of its =oard of directors in December 2011. But at least two =taffers were sufficiently concerned about reports of Krauss's =ehavior that they urged you not to invite him on a 2014 cruise of the Galapagos Islands. =/span> • In June 2013, after you =ejected their advice and invited him on the cruise, one of those =taffers resigned. At a conference in March =012, another woman, who at that point was also an employee of CFI, told =ou about an incident in 2006 in which Krauss forcibly kissed and groped =er in a hotel room. According to this woman, after she told you about =his in person, you responded to her with silence. • The woman later =old two other employees in CFI's management about the incident, =nd expressed her discomfort at having Krauss continue to speak at =vents. CFI continued to book Krauss =s a speaker at its events. Again, if you wish =o comment on or clarify any of these points, please get in touch with =s as soon as possible. If I do not respond immediately it is because I =m on another call, so please leave the best phone number to reach =ou. Thanks, Peter Aldhous M i<tel Peter Aldhous, PhD Science reporter I BuzzFeed News tel tel cell: <tel @paldhous www.peteraldhous.com 10 EFTA_R1_01657008 EFTA02520324 Ronald A. 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